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Mark interviews political strategist Ed Rollins. · The Mark Simone Show

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  Speaker 1: His job.
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  Speaker 2: Make it all makes sense.
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  Speaker 1: He's Mark Simone. Hey, let's talk to the Dean himself,
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  Speaker 1: Ed Rollins. Of course, he's run a million campaigns, He's
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  Speaker 1: worked in a lot of white houses. Nobody knows this
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  Speaker 1: stuff better, Ed Rollins, How you doing good?
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  Speaker 2: Mark? The weather being terrible all of us on the
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  Speaker 2: East coast here.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's a mess. Hey, Tomorrow night's State of
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  Speaker 1: the Union speech. What does the President need to accomplish
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  Speaker 1: in that speech?
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  Speaker 2: It's a very big speech. There's a lot of things
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  Speaker 2: on his plate. He needs to explain to the American public.
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  Speaker 2: I was going to bring the government back in the functioning,
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  Speaker 2: especially with the weather and what have you in Fiena
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  Speaker 2: and the and the Ameline security stuff being out. Secondly,
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  Speaker 2: he's got to explain to the American public and he's
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  Speaker 2: going to do anything in Iran. This is a chance
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  Speaker 2: for him to do that, set the tone and say
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  Speaker 2: I want peace and why I want piece If that's
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  Speaker 2: the case. The third thing that he needs to any
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  Speaker 2: deal on is he's clearly convincing people that this terriff
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  Speaker 2: plan was correct, and he's got to obviously out of
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  Speaker 2: the court is his rule that he can't use this
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  Speaker 2: particular provision. Why he wants to continue to move that
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  Speaker 2: ball forward. To a certain extent, it's a terrible time
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  Speaker 2: for Congress, which is another element here, because the new
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  Speaker 2: provisions that he has, he can put some of the
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  Speaker 2: provisions some of the terrorists back in, but in five
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  Speaker 2: months the Congress has to improve it. Five months is
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  Speaker 2: right at the heart of a campaign, and he basically
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  Speaker 2: Democrats are going to say this is a tax raising taxes.
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  Speaker 2: He's got to make the case that's what he wants,
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  Speaker 2: just the opposite. So he's got a big speech. He
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  Speaker 2: can't can't stand up there to attack the court because
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  Speaker 2: he doesn't like the court, doesn't like the decision. He's
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  Speaker 2: got to deal with this court, and they don't care.
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  Speaker 2: Most of the people in the country don't know who
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  Speaker 2: is on the court, let alone who the names are.
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  Speaker 2: So I think a certain extent, he can't get in
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  Speaker 2: a fight with the court. There's too many previsions that
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  Speaker 2: he needs at this point in time to fight with him. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: so by alternatives.
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  Speaker 1: When it comes to defying the court, it's done all
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  Speaker 1: the time. The last time was Biden. The student loan
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  Speaker 1: stuff was ruled illegal and Biden said, I'll defy them.
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  Speaker 1: I'll do it anyway. So it's it's not unprecedented, is it.
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  Speaker 2: No, it's not unprecedent. What happened to Biden.
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  Speaker 1: It's on the beach, all right. And then when it
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  Speaker 1: comes to Iran, you're talking about the most evil regime
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  Speaker 1: in the world, slaughtering people, funding terrorism, trying to get
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  Speaker 1: rid of Israel. I mean, do we really need to
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  Speaker 1: explain why we want regime change?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I don't think we have to explain it. If
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  Speaker 2: we're going to do it, we need to basically get
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  Speaker 2: the creation of the Congress to do it. You know,
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  Speaker 2: he's got a third of the Navy sitting off the
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  Speaker 2: coast there, and you know, I think the American public
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  Speaker 2: doesn't want to have another war in the Middle East
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  Speaker 2: on the last couple of been miserable failures. And I
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  Speaker 2: think the reality is, you know, there's lots of lots
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  Speaker 2: of things he can do at this point in time.
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  Speaker 2: He can't raise expectations. He raised expectations a couple weeks
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  Speaker 2: ago telling the people when they writing people who just
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  Speaker 2: stay on the streets there shortly can't do that again.
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  Speaker 2: Whatever your plan is, you've got to basically implement it,
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  Speaker 2: explain in the American public way, get to get Congress
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  Speaker 2: and the dialogue tries to do it alone and it
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  Speaker 2: becomes a disaster, disasters, American kids getting killed. What I'm
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  Speaker 2: on the moves about is important. The cost of war
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  Speaker 2: in the Middle East is enormous. Uh, you know all
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  Speaker 2: oil that comes out of that area. Uh. You know,
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  Speaker 2: it's not gonna be a quick thing like Venezuela as
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  Speaker 2: it's you know, there's no there's no quick wars anymore.
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  Speaker 2: And you can bull up nuclear actors and you can
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  Speaker 2: go down and take some guy out at the top
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  Speaker 2: in Venezuela. But this is this is an administration that
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  Speaker 2: thinks that God has put them there and that they
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  Speaker 2: are the gods. Uh. And then we have to explain
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  Speaker 2: why why do we want to change it?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? Uh, hey, what do the Democrats need to do tomorrow?
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  Speaker 1: The state of the Union. Usually they do something to
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  Speaker 1: embarrass themselves. They look rude and obnoxious. How should they
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  Speaker 1: behave tomorrow?
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  Speaker 2: They're both the rudeoxious. I mean, the problem is the
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  Speaker 2: us A show. They're they're feeling very empowered at this
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  Speaker 2: point in time, whether they should be or not. They're
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  Speaker 2: not their numbers aren't much better than the presidents, but
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  Speaker 2: I think to a certain extent, they feel they have
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  Speaker 2: some momentum. They don't many policies that are appealing to
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  Speaker 2: the country, but at the same time, they're the alternative,
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  Speaker 2: and I think being being the alternative the better place
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  Speaker 2: right now than trying to basically deal with her serious agenda. So, uh,
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  Speaker 2: you know, they're performed, they'll they'll do something, but you
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  Speaker 2: know it's it's the president's show and people are going
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  Speaker 2: to tune in to watch what he says, what he does.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, there's no law that you have to
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  Speaker 1: do it in front of Congress. And some people are
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  Speaker 1: saying if they if the Democrats get rude and just
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  Speaker 1: up to this time, next time, don't do the State
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  Speaker 1: of the Union in Congress, do it somewhere, do it
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  Speaker 1: in front of my rushmore, do do it in some
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  Speaker 1: other setting.
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  Speaker 2: President to make a speech, President to make a speech
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  Speaker 2: anytime he wants to. Yeah, and there's no as you
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  Speaker 2: say this, there's there's nothing requires the president to do
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  Speaker 2: a state of the State of the Union. It's a tradition,
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  Speaker 2: is not a and I think to a certain extent,
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  Speaker 2: you want to use it to basically make your case,
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  Speaker 2: make your argument. He just has to be very careful
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  Speaker 2: and and not he has to be a sales He
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  Speaker 2: has to basically show that he's not a nasty man,
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  Speaker 2: that this is not this is not petty. Those are
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  Speaker 2: not going to move for pets. You're not going to
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  Speaker 2: move for President's party. Uh. He wants someone who's strong
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  Speaker 2: project strength, uh. And that he's in charge. He knows
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  Speaker 2: what's happening with the country and he has tough case
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  Speaker 2: to make it. He's going to convince voters that that
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  Speaker 2: the economy is going to get better and that and
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  Speaker 2: the fields that they passed well in time. But at
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  Speaker 2: the same time, public doesn't wait that yet, so you
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  Speaker 2: can't can't take them for granted. You got to be
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  Speaker 2: super salesman, which he traditionally has been an effective salesman.
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  Speaker 2: But that's what he's going to do. If he doesn't
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  Speaker 2: do that, he gets petty. If they get petty to him,
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  Speaker 2: they'll get petty back to them. And if everybody hates
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  Speaker 2: the Congress and everybody hates the president, the President's party loses.
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  Speaker 2: He's charge, his parties in charge, and they expect them.
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  Speaker 1: They let me ask you them. I know the president
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  Speaker 1: pretty well. I can see it in his face sometimes
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  Speaker 1: where he came from a very glamorous life, but he
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  Speaker 1: likes being president. But I can see it now. I
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  Speaker 1: can see him getting a little bored and restless at times.
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  Speaker 1: Did you ever have that problem like with Reagan where
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  Speaker 1: he felt a little confined in the White House that
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  Speaker 1: got a little bored.
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  Speaker 2: Well, the second second terms are hard, and and you
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  Speaker 2: know we had set our second term was right after
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  Speaker 2: the first terms in four years in between. And I
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  Speaker 2: think to a certain extent, the president has been dominating
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  Speaker 2: this economy and this program for a long period of time.
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  Speaker 2: He now has more power, actual power than any president
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  Speaker 2: since Lennon Johnson and Kitty Roosevelt Republican and Franklin Roosevelt Democrat.
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  Speaker 2: So he's taken a lot of power. He has to
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  Speaker 2: do some things for that power, and I think to
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  Speaker 2: a certain extent he's got to sell it post of all,
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  Speaker 2: you've got to sell it. Yeah, and there's always the
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  Speaker 2: traditional change in the midterms, and there's no reason, you know,
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  Speaker 2: there's not a lot of seats that have any competitive
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  Speaker 2: going to be twenty five maybe thirty seats are the
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  Speaker 2: most that it could be competitive, and you've got to win,
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  Speaker 2: win a majority of the pot. Yeah, all right, well
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  Speaker 2: not too late, just just just he just needs to
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  Speaker 2: be in his persuasive best.
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  Speaker 1: All right, good stuff, Ed Rollins, great is always. Thanks
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  Speaker 1: for being with us. My pleasure that all right, take care. Well,
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