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The Late Debate | 20 January · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Wait wait, gentle man. Welcome to the Late Base.
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  Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the program. I'm Caleb Bond
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  Speaker 2: with Joe Hildebrand and Danika to Georgio. Here's what's coming
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  Speaker 2: up tonight. A British investigation has found that Chinese made
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  Speaker 2: electric buses being used in Australia have kill switches that
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  Speaker 2: mean they could be remotely shut down from Beijing. More
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  Speaker 2: on that soon. Former Prime Minister Tony Abbott, famously a
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  Speaker 2: surfer and volunteer life saver, has called for shark culling
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  Speaker 2: to return after a fourth shark attack in New South
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  Speaker 2: Wales in just forty eight hours, and we will show
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  Speaker 2: you the first cow in the world that has learned
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  Speaker 2: how to pick up a brush and scratch itself. Who
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  Speaker 2: won't want to miss that? A great advancement in how
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  Speaker 2: life run, as he said. But first, a far more
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  Speaker 2: serious and outrageous story. I have to say. George Murogi,
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  Speaker 2: who you may know of as one of the worst gangsters,
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  Speaker 2: or he was one of the worst gangsters in Victoria.
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  Speaker 2: He used to be the leader of what was known
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  Speaker 2: as the Notorious Crime Family. Now he is currently locked up.
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  Speaker 2: He's serving a thirty eight year sentence for murder and
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  Speaker 2: drug smuggling, and while he's been in prison, he's planned
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  Speaker 2: a jail break, he's kicked a police officer, he squirted
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  Speaker 2: feces at a prison guard, he has twice set fire
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  Speaker 2: to his prison cell. So he's not the card guy
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  Speaker 2: you'd have a great deal of sympathy for, unless, of course,
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  Speaker 2: you happen to be Justice Claire Harris of the Victorian
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  Speaker 2: Supreme Court, because mister Morogi has been running a case
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  Speaker 2: in the court in which he alleges that he has
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  Speaker 2: been treated to inhumane or has suffered inhumane treatment while
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  Speaker 2: he has been in prison, and the Court has found
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  Speaker 2: that indeed he has. Now his main complaint was that
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  Speaker 2: the grounds he was allowed to go out into when
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  Speaker 2: he gets his little bit of sunlight or what he
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  Speaker 2: thought would be sunlight every day, didn't actually allow him
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  Speaker 2: the one hour a day of fresh air to which
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  Speaker 2: he is apparently entitled as a right as a prisoner.
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  Speaker 2: He complained that these yards had a mesh and opaque roofing,
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  Speaker 2: that they had been constructed out of concrete and they
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  Speaker 2: had crimsafe mesh over them, and that he wasn't getting
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  Speaker 2: I know, this isn't it terrible is that he wasn't
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  Speaker 2: getting the sunlight and fresh air to which he was
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  Speaker 2: entitled and metal bars. I forgot to mention wouldn't have
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  Speaker 2: metal bars. So he goes off to the Supreme Court
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  Speaker 2: and says, this is inhumane. I am not getting the
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  Speaker 2: one hour of fresh air and sunlight to which I
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  Speaker 2: am entitled And the court has agreed. Justice Claire Harris
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  Speaker 2: of the Victorian Supreme Court has agreed that he has
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  Speaker 2: been denied the right to feel sunlight, wind and rain.
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  Speaker 2: And as a result of this, two prisons in Victoria
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  Speaker 2: so that the Metropolitan Remand Center and Barwin Prison, both
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  Speaker 2: of which he has been in. Four cells at the
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  Speaker 2: Exford unit of the Remand Center have been deemed to
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  Speaker 2: be illegally built, so the state government will now have
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  Speaker 2: to rebuild them.
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  Speaker 1: That's okay, They've got so much money, I know, swim.
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  Speaker 2: They have to rebuild them because these are breaching human
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  Speaker 2: rights of prisoners. And at Barwin Prison there are two
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  Speaker 2: cells of the Alania unit. They'll have to rebuild, three
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  Speaker 2: rear yards of the Acacia unit, two rear yards of
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  Speaker 2: the meler Luca unit, including wait for it, the loss
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  Speaker 2: of Privilege yard, will have to be rebuild because they
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  Speaker 2: are breaching the human.
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  Speaker 1: Rights privilege of prisoners.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, seriously, is this real?
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  Speaker 3: Well, the funniest part is this Justice Claire Harris. She
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  Speaker 3: came to this conclusion. This is what I thought was
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  Speaker 3: the funniest part, because she went on a tour of
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  Speaker 3: the facilities as help. She went on a little browse
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  Speaker 3: and she walked around and this is what she said.
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  Speaker 3: This is in her findings to the court. This is
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  Speaker 3: what she concluded, and I quote, there is no clear
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  Speaker 3: bright line delineating what will constitute a space which enables
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  Speaker 3: a prisoner to be in the open air. Well, let
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  Speaker 3: me think about it. They're in prison, Okay, they're actually
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  Speaker 3: in jail, so it doesn't matter. You know, you commit
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  Speaker 3: a murder here and there, you assauld a police officer,
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  Speaker 3: and you try and set fire to yourself. Heck, you
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  Speaker 3: even try and create, you know, a jail break for
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  Speaker 3: goodness sake.
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  Speaker 1: But which this guy did do matter?
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  Speaker 3: According to Justice Claire Harris, You're still entitled to what
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  Speaker 3: your average person would be entitled to. I personally feel
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  Speaker 3: sorry for the hard working Victorians. Mean that state is
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  Speaker 3: already broke and backwards. How much is this going to cost.
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  Speaker 3: Once again it falls on the taxpayer. But again it
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  Speaker 3: is a blight on the justice system that we constantly
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  Speaker 3: see out of this woke state. We've seen it when
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  Speaker 3: it comes to youth crime, constantly making dumb and stupid
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  Speaker 3: goodness knows what decisions. And now oh air is now
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  Speaker 3: an entitlement when you are a prisoner who's been convicted
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  Speaker 3: of murder. I mean, give me a break, Victoria. I
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  Speaker 3: feel so sorry for you, seriously.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, they do actually get air.
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  Speaker 2: They dore allowed to breathe, but they need the sunlight.
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  Speaker 1: I would just say, Victoria, it's been nice knowing you.
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  Speaker 1: You are you are now officially a failed state. You
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  Speaker 1: are up there with Haiti. It is just, it is
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  Speaker 1: just I just find it extraordinary. And you would think
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  Speaker 1: it was satire, except that you just couldn't make it up,
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  Speaker 1: because if someone did this as satire, that's believable.
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  Speaker 2: The satirical elements.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 2: During this case, Morogi compared the treatment he has received
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  Speaker 2: in Victorian prisons to what Nilson Mandela suffered when I
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  Speaker 2: was in prison.
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  Speaker 3: Is that?
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  Speaker 2: Imagine comparing yourself to Nelson.
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  Speaker 1: Mandila, except that Nelson Mandela was not in prison for
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  Speaker 1: and again I quote murder, and he did not find
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  Speaker 1: a jail break or kick a police officer, or squirt
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  Speaker 1: feces at a guard or twice set fire to his cell.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, this guy like it is just it is extraordinary.
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  Speaker 1: It is extraordinary that only in Victoria would a judge
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  Speaker 1: so heavily invest themselves and says, well, I'd better go
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  Speaker 1: and look at this for myself. Oh it's terrible. It's like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, it feels like a prison in here.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but isn't the point bonkers that you were deprived
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  Speaker 4: of your right and exactly there was this discussion in
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  Speaker 4: I think there's been since a case in New South
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  Speaker 4: Wales as well.
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  Speaker 2: But last year of the year before there was a
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  Speaker 2: prisoner pedophile in South Australia who accessed euthanasia and there
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  Speaker 2: was this Hulla balloon. I wrote about it at the time.
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  Speaker 2: Surely you do not deserve the right to just check
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  Speaker 2: out when you are in prison. You don't get the
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  Speaker 2: same rights as everyone else, it would seem apparently you do.
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  Speaker 2: So what is the point of prison?
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  Speaker 1: Just listen to this and listen to the language that
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  Speaker 1: this guy is says. Given the walls, this is what
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  Speaker 1: he told the court and this is what the judge actually,
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he's got a good point here. Given the
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  Speaker 1: walls of the management unit exercise yards are concrete, except
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  Speaker 1: for the rare window, the lack of open air and
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  Speaker 1: unobstructed sunlight, and the fact I was there by myself,
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  Speaker 1: it really just felt like an extension of my cell.
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  Speaker 1: So it was depressing and brought me up.
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  Speaker 3: Why is you go have a sook.
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  Speaker 1: Of the management unit exercise yards are concrete. Yes, it's
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  Speaker 1: prison except for the rare window. Yes, the lack of
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  Speaker 1: open air and unobstructed sunlight. Yes, it's prison. And the
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  Speaker 1: fact that I was there by myself. That's how solitary confided. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: maybe he doesn't get out.
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  Speaker 3: Well, it's because justin Clair Harris, she did a tour
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  Speaker 3: of this facility. Joe, Okay, she's done a tour. She
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  Speaker 3: understands what the confines alike, of the prisons.
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  Speaker 1: She knows everything.
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  Speaker 3: Apparently she knows. But look, let's move on because big
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  Speaker 3: brother is watching. But not all residents are on board.
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  Speaker 3: Have a look over at the City of Melbourne. In
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  Speaker 3: May last year the town hall there, they committed to
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  Speaker 3: upgrading what's been called this safety camera program. Now to
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  Speaker 3: quote them, they've installed three hundred plus cameras in the
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  Speaker 3: city and I'll quote with the purpose of improving safety
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  Speaker 3: and amenity in the city. So they were going to
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  Speaker 3: expand their cameras to keep a watch to know not
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  Speaker 3: only look at crime, but they were also going to
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  Speaker 3: look at mess and just to keep that the city
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  Speaker 3: particularly safe. Now they've gone through this big consultation process
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  Speaker 3: and the overwhelming number of residents in the City of Melbourne, well,
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  Speaker 3: they are very concerned about it. In fact, sixty five
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  Speaker 3: percent so that they were not all not at all
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  Speaker 3: confident that the city would use camera footage responsibly and
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  Speaker 3: in accordance with privacy laws. Twenty one percent of them
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  Speaker 3: said that they were not confident. Overall, feedback gathered during
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  Speaker 3: the engagement was negative according to the City of Melbourne,
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  Speaker 3: with low levels of concerns for local issues, low levels
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  Speaker 3: of support for footage from the cameras being utilized to
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  Speaker 3: investigate these issues, and low confidence in the council to
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  Speaker 3: utilize the footage responsively and in accordance with privacy laws.
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  Speaker 3: But here is the real peerla recurring themes including concerns
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  Speaker 3: about surveillance, privacy, governance, oversight, accountability, as well as specific
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  Speaker 3: concerns relating to artificial intelligence and protests. Well, I mean
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  Speaker 3: my argument in all this is instead of just this
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  Speaker 3: big Brother, Big brothers snooping. Big Brother is spying on you,
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  Speaker 3: Pa Lava, how about you actually address the root cause
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  Speaker 3: of the problem. Because it's easy to come out and say, oh,
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  Speaker 3: you know, we're going to monitor youth crime. We're going
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  Speaker 3: to monitor crime rates. That's how we're going to keep
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  Speaker 3: people safe by using these expanded camera network or gee,
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  Speaker 3: wouldn't it be a good idea? How about firstly, you
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  Speaker 3: fund police. And I know we're talking about a local
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  Speaker 3: council here, but this is a bigger issue at play.
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  Speaker 3: Fund police, put more cops on the beat. Then it
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  Speaker 3: falls to the justice system. Lock these criminals up for
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  Speaker 3: goodness sake. That way, big Brother doesn't have to monitor
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  Speaker 3: twenty four to seven. Again, it's diversionary tactics in my view,
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  Speaker 3: when it doesn't actually achieve to get to the real
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  Speaker 3: cause of the problem.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I understand that the Melbourne City Council is trying
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  Speaker 2: to do what it can. And you'll remember they sent
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  Speaker 2: out the Recee Police. It's the you Nick Reace, the
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  Speaker 2: Lord resource. You know they should have. They did the
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  Speaker 2: Recee police, but the resfource is good too, but they're
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  Speaker 2: essentially like you know, these protective security guards, which is
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  Speaker 2: like a rung down from police, and you know there's
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  Speaker 2: only so much they can do. But the council is saying, well,
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  Speaker 2: if the state gaban is not going to do anything,
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  Speaker 2: we're at least going to do something. But the problem
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  Speaker 2: with the cameras and the expansion of cameras, and I
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  Speaker 2: think we all know that they're a CCTV cameras everywhere,
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  Speaker 2: going to a shop there, there, and we know they're around.
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  Speaker 2: But with the expansion of AI technology, and this is
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  Speaker 2: already happening in some parts of the world, we are
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  Speaker 2: not far off every CCTV camera having AI capabilities and
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  Speaker 2: facial recognition, and then of course they'll be collecting biometric
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  Speaker 2: data on people who walk around the streets and that
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  Speaker 2: is when the possibility of nefarious activity comes into it.
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  Speaker 2: We've already seen this used for commercial purposes in public places.
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  Speaker 2: I think it was the Tube in London. There was
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  Speaker 2: certainly some train service in the UK where they were
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  Speaker 2: testing out these facial recognition cameras as people were coming
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  Speaker 2: into railway stations and sort of tailoring advertising that they
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  Speaker 2: were showing to people based on the emotions that they
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  Speaker 2: had detected in faces, as they could say, well, people
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  Speaker 2: are largely happy, so we'll show this sort of advertising.
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  Speaker 2: All they're largely looking sullen after the day at work,
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  Speaker 2: so we'll show them this sort of advertising. So this
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  Speaker 2: stuff is already going on and has been going on
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  Speaker 2: for years, and I think it is it is well
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  Speaker 2: within the realms of possibility that the more you expand
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  Speaker 2: this they will know everywhere you have been. They'll be
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  Speaker 2: able to link it up to your face and all
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  Speaker 2: the other data they can get. And that is a
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  Speaker 2: step too.
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  Speaker 1: Far, but they can do that anyway. They're already doing it.
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  Speaker 1: So if people think, oh, they're going to know where
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  Speaker 1: I'm going, there is already if they want to, an
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  Speaker 1: algorithm that can just go straight on your phone and
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  Speaker 1: know absolutely everywhere you are going, right down to the
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  Speaker 1: square meter that you are sitting in at any given
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  Speaker 1: point in time. Your phones are already listening to you.
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  Speaker 1: They're listening to your conversations and tailoring ads to you
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  Speaker 1: based on what you say, let alone your search history
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  Speaker 1: and what you put into it. You want to. People
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  Speaker 1: talk about, oh, they're going to take my image and
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  Speaker 1: use it for some offers. Every single digital photo you've
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  Speaker 1: ever taken and put online and probably even just stored
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  Speaker 1: on your phone could if the right actors, nefarious actors,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the James Bond villain Superpowers was able to
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  Speaker 1: get control of Apple or Facebook or any other social
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  Speaker 1: media company that you've signed up to willingly and you
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  Speaker 1: haven't read the terms and conditions and you've just ticked
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  Speaker 1: I agree, because otherwise you don't get the app. They
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  Speaker 1: could do it in a heartbeat. And all the people say, oh,
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  Speaker 1: these CCTV cameras, tell them they do not know what
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  Speaker 1: they are talking about. That absolute cookers. There are CCTV
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  Speaker 1: cameras covering every square inch of pretty much every CBD
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  Speaker 1: and facility in any major city. I remember when the first,
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  Speaker 1: you know, there was talk about them coming out in Sydney,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm putting them in Martin Place on the streets
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  Speaker 1: of Sydney about what twenty years ago. I think now,
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  Speaker 1: and everyone goes, oh my god, God, never heard from again.
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  Speaker 1: You're not that important. You're not that important. No one
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  Speaker 1: wants to watch you. What they want is your money.
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  Speaker 1: They want you to spend your money with them, and
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  Speaker 1: all this stuff and all your buying habits are already
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  Speaker 1: going to are being harvested, and ads are targeting, and
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  Speaker 1: if you don't want to succumb to them, then just
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  Speaker 1: don't buy the stuff, the CCTV stuff that is used.
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  Speaker 1: You say we want the cops to put the criminals
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  Speaker 1: hind bars. How do you think the cops catch them?
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  Speaker 1: They catch them with CCTV.
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  Speaker 2: I know, But but then that's the if you've if
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  Speaker 2: you're not committing a crime, you've got nothing to worry about. Therefore,
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  Speaker 2: we should hand over everything that we've ever done to
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  Speaker 2: the coppers and hope that nothing goes wrong. If I
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  Speaker 2: buy the phone, and I've got the phone, I know
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  Speaker 2: the thing is listening, but I voluntarily entered into that contract.
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  Speaker 2: Should I have to when I go out in public
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  Speaker 2: be subjected to AI facial recognition. It's slightly different propositions,
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  Speaker 2: and then where the least.
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  Speaker 1: It's completely immterials, Like I'm you know, I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: buy a grenade and pull the pin and stick it
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  Speaker 1: down my pants. But I don't want anybody I can
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  Speaker 1: sent But if they if anyone, if anyone wants any
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  Speaker 1: information about you, the way they get it is not
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  Speaker 1: through a CCTV camera. They get it through the device
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  Speaker 1: that you've got in your phone.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, but where does it go to? Because I look
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  Speaker 3: at what's going on in China for example, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: China has been ahead of this sort of technology for
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  Speaker 3: years and years and literally, if you are jaywalkie across
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  Speaker 3: the road, they will pick you up on a camera
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  Speaker 3: and suddenly ping, you get a notification on your phone
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  Speaker 3: and you will be fined immediately. So if we're going
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  Speaker 3: to expand this sort of technology here, where does it.
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  Speaker 1: Where it's us and China doesn't. That's why that's a
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  Speaker 1: good thing about being in.
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  Speaker 3: You know who will I agree, you know who else
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  Speaker 3: has a right to be concerned about this, But I
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  Speaker 3: still maintain that it does not address a bigger problem
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  Speaker 3: because if you're going to if you're going to implement to.
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  Speaker 1: Catch criminals, the purpose of these cameras is to catch criminals.
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  Speaker 3: More problems, improve the justice system, and put more police
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  Speaker 3: on the beach.
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  Speaker 1: That that would be how the police catch the criminals.
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  Speaker 3: This is how they're run by a local council. Were
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  Speaker 3: they going to send one of nick one of the races.
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  Speaker 1: Catch a crime being committed and then the police are
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  Speaker 1: able to investigate it and look at who it is
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  Speaker 1: and identify the person and then go and arrest them.
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  Speaker 2: I should not you know, who else had elections Germany
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  Speaker 2: and you know, governments.
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  Speaker 1: Came well, governments can go a.
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  Speaker 2: Bit overboard if they want to go overboard.
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  Speaker 1: That was all Himler's far that was all that was
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  Speaker 1: all Hinderbergh's fault.
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  Speaker 2: While we're talking about going overboard, I mean, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I feel like we talk about this all the time,
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  Speaker 2: but kids on ebucks, I do feel a bit you know,
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  Speaker 2: old man yells at cloud when these stores come up.
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  Speaker 2: But they are going a bit mad. I mean, the
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  Speaker 2: kids are basically now forming like biky gangs, biking gangs,
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  Speaker 2: but they're not getting around on motorbikes. They're getting around
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  Speaker 2: on ebucks. I saw, actually, you know, on the mean
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  Speaker 2: streets of Bellmine where I live in the inner west
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  Speaker 2: of Sydney. I saw and you can see some of
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  Speaker 2: these biking kids getting around here the other day, kid
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  Speaker 2: getting around on an electric trail bike and near like
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  Speaker 2: a step just the basic ebuk. But apparently they're now
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  Speaker 2: terrorizing golf courses. And they've been getting around the Long
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  Speaker 2: Reef Golf Club and there they are, they're riding over
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  Speaker 2: the greens and stuff up on the Northern Beaches in Sydney.
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  Speaker 2: And this was also shared by the Chroma Golf Club
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  Speaker 2: which is just over the road. This is in Collroy
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  Speaker 2: on the Northern Beaches in Sydney. You know, I know
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  Speaker 2: kids have always got up to know good when they
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  Speaker 2: get out on their bikes and getting gangs and stuff.
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  Speaker 2: But obviously it's now so much easier with an e
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  Speaker 2: bike because you've got to put in far less here,
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  Speaker 2: they go so much faster. And the automatic reaction from
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: a lot of people is a you know, we've got
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: to restrict the e bikes, so we've got to read
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: just to the e biks and all this sort of stuff.
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: How do underage people under the age of eighteen get
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: their hands on e bikes? I wonder where they're getting
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: these e bikes from. Their parents are clearly buying them
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: for them. What's wrong with the parents letting their kids
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: have e bite Well.
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: They're not meant to say so new laws when in
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: recently where you're not allowed you've never kids under the
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: age of eighteen or whatever have never been allowed to
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: buy the super powerful e bikes, and of course they do.
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: And then what the government realized they were doing was
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: they're buying the ones down and then souping them up,
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: so they're pimping their e bikes name for a reality TV.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: So they're doing that, so the government had to crack
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: down that. But of course, again kids are always if
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: a kid really wants to break the law or get
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: around the law or whatever, they will find a way
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: to do it. And how's this for a humble brag.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: I live next to a golf course, the royal and
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: ancient Marrickfield Public golf Course, so that golf course are
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: the people never swung a club in anger myself, But
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: I'm always out there with the dog or running or
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: walking along blah blah blah.
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: And just wait until Chris.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: He's not cutting that one in half. No, it's a
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: labor only. But they've just we've just started noticing it.
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: You know, our peaceful, little, you know, idyllic Inner West community,
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: you know where the biggest sound is usually greens vioters
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: complaining about a potential three story development has now got
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: these little little hones running around laughing, having a good time.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: Makes me sick seeing all those kids having a good time.
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: But I don't think they're tearing it up, but they are.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: They are flying around and they love it. And I
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: think they've got because they've got like because they're electric,
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: so they should be silent, right, but they've got they've
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: got things that make noise.
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: They think they like a humming. It's like a hum
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: like a humming.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: And I've heard others that like this with vehicles, where
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: you have a fake sound with electric formula one as well. Yeah, yeah,
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: fake sound to make it sound like a combustion.
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: You remember as a kid, did you have the little
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: clicker things on the space on the Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: it's the equivalent of that basic I don't know what.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: What is that the rich kids had? I could never
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: when the will goes.
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: I mean, my concern is they're obviously unregistered. They're unchecked.
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: That's a problem. And a number of those kids, as
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: you see, they're not wearing helmets. Okay, they don't know.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: The road, probably skateboarding and their spirit.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: They're probably skateboarding, but they don't know the road rules.
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: That's the problem. I mean, And they're clearly being absolute menaces.
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: And there's no insurance on these e bikes as well,
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: from my understanding, So if there is indeed an accident,
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: well you're basically stuffed.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: THEMX bandits without the com.
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: But they are. They're like but that that to me
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: so young?
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: You don't know?
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: I know, well, I can't ride a bike?
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: Can I just pause everything here? You don't know how
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: to ride a bike?
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: Well? I do, but not very well. That's why my
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: my knowledge of bikes I've got to be quite limited,
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: because no, I don't.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: I think we have a we have a content opportunity.
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: Argument would be that if Hohon's are losing their cars
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: and there needs to be some sort of penalty, I
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: if I was a resident, or if I was a
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: regular golfer, I would actually be mortified, absolutely mortified. And
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: the other issue is that you see all these bikes
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: littered around on foot paths everywhere now, they just look
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: so dodgy. It makes it the ones.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but they're not them ones.
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: But seriously, the e bikes are everywhere right now, everywhere.
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: The that'st part of Clover Moore's plan, isn't it for them?
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: I feel like I'm more danger of being hit by
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: a golf ball than an you reckon that? I think
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: either what a way to go? Yeah, I tell you
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: another way to go? Is it a hell? And that's
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: what Brooklyn Beckham?
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: Who dad?
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: Isn't this amazing? Have you been following this?
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: I mean he's gone nuclear move over.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: That you know, Brisbane Lyons, Footy Captain Lucky, Neil Love scandal,
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: Neil scandal him in the Mormon. Beckham says, I do
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: not want to reconcile with my parents. You might have
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: heard of them, David and Victoria Beckham aka Posh Spice. Well,
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: Victoria was aka posh Spice. David Beckham was never posh Spy.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: She was always just David Beckham. And he's posted a
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: lengthy statement about this long running family few. It's so
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: long running that I've literally only just heard about it
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: in the last six hours. And he says, quote, my
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: family values public promotion and endorsements above all else. Brand
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: Beckham comes first. Family love quote unquote. He's put love
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: in air quotes. That's what hurts the most, is like
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: fish and chips. Family love is decided by how much
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: you post on social media or how quickly you drop
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: everything to show up and pose for a family photo op.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: And of course this is what he posted on social media.
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: I mean and again, I've just it. Look. Firstly, he's
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: gone nuclear a right, Prince Harry two point zero ladies
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: and gentlemen has rocked up. The guy is an absolute
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: spoilt twat in my opinion. So he's gone. He's gone
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: and done this lengthy, full post. Right. It went for
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: about four five six Instagram posts where he loves him.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: When he posts on Instagram.
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: It's detailed moments of his life, detailed special events where
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: he blames his mum and dad. Now bear in mind
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: he was born into royalty. When your mother is a
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: spice girl and your father is one of the best
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: soccer players to have ever lived, you come with a
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: profile no matter what, because your surname is Beckham.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: I believe that's what they call a nepo babies, Right,
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: the guy.
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: Is spoilt brat. So I'm going to take you through
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: some of the statement and why he's acting so entitled. Firstly,
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: this is one of the quotes. My mom canceled making
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: Nichola's dress. This is at the wedding in the eleventh hour,
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: despite how excited she was to wear her design, forcing
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: her to urgently find a new dress. Well, that's already
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: been debunked because the stylist at the time who made
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: this dress she was wearing a a Couture Valentino bridal dress,
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: said it was the ultimate courture experience. The simplicity of
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: it was magnificent. So indeed she did wear the dress.
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: There were no changes that completely contradicts that statement. But
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: here is where it gets truly bizarre, and I mean
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: utterly bizarre in that statement. Let me read this. My
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: mum hijacked. So his mum, Victoria Beckham, hijack the first
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: dance with my wife, which had been planned weeks in
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: advance to a romantic love song in front of our
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: five hundred guests. Mark Anthony called me to the stage
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: wherein the schedule was planned to be my romantic dance
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: with my wife, but instead my mum was waiting to
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: dance with me. Instead, she danced quote very appropriately on
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: me in front of everyone. I never felt more uncomfortable
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: and humiliated in my life. Well, blow me down. What
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: sort of a dance was it? Was it this one? Maybe?
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: I don't know?
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: Was it?
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: Stop right now? Thank you?
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: No?
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: I think that's what he was saying to her.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm sorry. You know, if he doesn't want
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: Victoria Beckham to dance on him, I'll take it for free.
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: I'm sure many men were every bloke in the world,
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: and I just made more.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: Points technicality though she is, as far as we're aware,
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: not your mother.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: Well that is true, I will.
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: I mean, I highly doubt you're giving a lap dance.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: I think that is the problem.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: Sorry, As if she was doing that danced on him inappropriately,
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: what does she saying? Did like a slap drop use?
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: Like she's basically insinuating some sort of weird lap dance.
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: And I can't adged a classy woman like Victoria Beckham,
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: who was known for wearing the little Gucci dress. I
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: don't know how familiar you guys are with the Spike
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: girls the little black Gucci dress. I can't imagine a
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: classy woman like that.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: Third thing I would make posh for God's.
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: Spyes, Okay, now this really just reminds me of Prince
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: Harry in Spare. I don't know if you've read Spare,
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: you know in the statement he says brand Beckham comes first.
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: He reminds me of in Spare when Prince Harry said
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: the monarchy comes before everything. But I don't know if
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: you know, but Nicole Pel's is actually the daughter of
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: a billionaire herself. In fact, her family are worth more
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: than the Beckhams. So who is Brooklyn? He is a nobody.
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: He was born into wealth and has married into even
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: more wealth. And the two of them have never worked
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: a day in their lives. And now they're going, oh,
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: well this happened, Oh boohoo, go cry go find a job.
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: There are bigger problems out there for goodness.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: But to be fair, though Brooklyn has shown that he
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: absolutely in no way gives any consideration to the brand,
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: as he has just completely and utterly trashed his well like,
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: this is a guy who clearly does not care about it.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: He is.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: There seems to be a rising modern phenomenon where people
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: get to their late twenties early thirties and they've like
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: they've heard this stuff online about maybe you've got childhood trauma,
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: and they start going to therapy and then the therapist, oh,
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: your parents every time they refuse to let you have
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: a biscuit, little Johnny, that caused you some sort of
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: you know, it's childhood trauma, and then they start saying, oh,
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: my parents are toxic and they're awful, and then they
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: start cutting their parents off. This is a thing now
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: where like parents are just flabbergaster that the kids won't
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: talk to them and they lose exiously grandchildren and all
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: this sort of like just get over it.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: But it's like the winging murderous drug king pin in jail.
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah right, not that.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: I'm accused of Brooklyn backup, of being a murderous drug
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: king pin.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: I need I need more, right, but.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: Like they've got nothing else to do.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: I have to complain about something before we move on.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: Here is his father, David.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: David, you disappointed family businesses being aired in public.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: I think the silence probably speaks for itself. Now we're
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: talking about people who are making a lot of money.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: Let's talk about someone who's not making any money despite
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: the fact he's just earned about two hundred large. We're
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: talking about Michael Jing, who is playing currently in the
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: Australian Open. He's from Columbia University in New York and
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: so he is technically an amateur. He's still studying at
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: UNI and so under the rules of the National Collegiate
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: Athletic Association in America, you have to forfeit all of
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: your prize money while you are still playing as an amateur. Now,
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: he's just beaten a much higher seeded player to get
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: into the second round of the Australian Open, and for
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: that he would normally pocket about two hundred and twenty
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: one thousand dollars. But there is talk that because he's
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: still going to university, he might have to forfeit all
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: of his winnings, and plenty of people I saw Jim
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: Courreer today, of course great of the game, saying that
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: this is ridiculous. He should be able to keep the
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: I mean, he beat the world number fifteen for heaven's
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: sake as an amateur to advance in the Australian Open,
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: and these stupid rules in the USA, he's got to
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: give up the money. I think that's ridiculous. He should
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: be entitled to his winning.
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: I think so too. And the most bizarre part of
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: this is that he's got to come up now with
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: creative ways to try and bypass the rules from this
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: national Collegiate Athletic Association. So one example, so he's got this,
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: it's about two hundred and fifty thousand Australian dollars. One
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: example is he could take that paycheck and use it
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: to quote improve the standard of living for him and
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: his entourage, so perhaps upgrade flights to business class, a
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: new hotel suite. But then he would have to return
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: the remainder of the money. I would go full Nick
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: Curios and just smash my racket. I was so angry
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: because he came into the tournament, he was ranked at
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: number one hundred and seventy four, and yet now he's
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: not going to be able to.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: Fix easy fix. It's like, look, guys, perfectly happy to
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: stay amateur. You know, I don't want the prize money,
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: happy to give it back to all of you. On
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: an unrelated matter, I did rack up a two hundred
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: and fifty thousand dollars room service after I won the game,
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: so obviously expenses. Say yeah, But I think it's because
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: he if you go, I think I read Hi between
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: the lines. I think he's on a sporting scholarship at Columbia,
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: and I think if you're on a scholarship, then you
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: have to be an amateur athlete or something like that.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: Maybe I've just got that.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: He's studying psychology. I just I don't understand why you
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: shouldn't if he's playing in amateur tennis in the US.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: So I get that that's fine because he's going to
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: university and that's part of the deal over there. But
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: if you then go overseas and play professionally, why should
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: you then have to forfeit the money you make elsewhere.
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: It's only allowed to make. He's only allowed to earn
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: no more than ten thousand US dollars for the ornament,
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: so literally a fraction of so it's one hundred and
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: fifty thousand US dollars. He's only allowed to take ten
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: thousand US dollars the whole tournament, which is practice and
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: rehearse for, you know, his whole life at this one
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: big moment, and he can't even enjoy it.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: The alternative would be he'd have to stop studying in
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: order to take the money if he wanted to take
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: them out once, which is left, which is ridiculous. It
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: just seems ridiculous.
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: It seems like the studious type. And of course he's
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: a psychologist, so he can actually treat himself for that.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: I think it's a win win.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: He's basically saving money, and speaking of things on which
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: we should be saving money, let's stop buying Chinese electric basses.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: Let's just stop buying Chinese vehicles altogether.
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: Now.
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: It offends me the MG's because you know, MG was
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: a British made, British terrible pickup down. They're awful. I've
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: driven one and they don't. They don't. So, you know,
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: iconic brands like MG have been taken over by the Chinese.
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: You know, l DV.
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: See the l d vs getting around their Chinese as well.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: That's Leyland, that's the old Layland.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: One of their bosses.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: Anyway, they also made by the Chinese U Tong buses
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: and they're getting around in Australia. I think there's a
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: number of private companies at least are using them, but
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: they're also using them. In Canberra, the Public Transport Service
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: in the Act uses them. And over in the UK,
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: the British authorities, the National Cyber Security Center and the
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: Department of Transporters conducted an investigation into these Utong buses
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: and they found that they are equipped with a kill switch,
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: which means a mechanism that is inside of them ya
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: a simcar I believe, which is meant to be so
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: it can do like software updates and stuff. Actually through
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: the back end allows the company in Beijing to if
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: they want to disable these buses. Now we've we've heard
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: warnings about this before in terms of electric vehicles and
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: particularly Chinese ones, that they could potentially control them remotely.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: Of course, a great way to where unleash warfare on
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: a city would be to slow down all the cars
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: or disable all the cars at a particular point in time,
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: and Britain has now found that that is exactly what
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: they could do with these buses, in which case I
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: think they ought to be off the road.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not even just hypothetical. I mean the exact
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: same thing happened to my Falcon.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: Just stop, Henry Ford.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: Not even an electric vehicle. I don't know how that Beijing,
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: you know, that's it.
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: They're got to stop. But it is a worry because
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: Beijing could use this as a weapon against enemies. I
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: mean it was only this week that the Chinese ambassador
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: basically warned, if you're not with us, you're against us. Well,
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: what this could be as Taiwan is Tasmania Tasmania stunning
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: stunning comparison. But look It is a worry, but it's
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: not just it's actually with a lot of UK sorry
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: Chinese parts. I mean it's happening. There's been a lot
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: of issues as well. If you look like solar panels,
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: for example, there's been this is this green We're.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: Going to install the little spy cameras in Australian War Memorial.
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, didn't we That's right.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: So I got into the Bureau of Meteorology just started
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: rattling around.
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: I just think it's another example of why we have
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: to be putting Australia first, and we have to really
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: ramp up our manufacturing sector because this this is a disaster.
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: Well even look, we're not going to bring their car manufacturing,
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: I think is pretty clear unfulately.
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: Which is sad. It's so sad. But could try and
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: we could look at Donald Trump.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but we could just like not buy our cars
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: from China. Might be good.
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: So that might be the best.
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: Start by Greenland instead. Wow, Donald Trump is doing He's
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: doing it again. Donald Trump has sent out a statement
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: telling Greenland that he's going to invade it because they
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: didn't give him the Nobel Peace Prize or words to
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: that effect. It's sort of a bit more convoluted than that.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: But anyway, Donald Trump has I just love this guy
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: so much. He has actually issued a statement where he
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: has had a crack at Denmark, which is the sort
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: of protector of Greenland. Greenland is an autonomous territory of Denmark,
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: so it sort of governs itself, but it comes under
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: the broader statehood of Denmark. And Trump has put out
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: a message on full presidential note head. The letterhead everything
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: you know from the desk from the Oval Office. It's
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: just great stuff's quote considering your country decided not to
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: give me the Nobel Peace Prize for having stopped eight wars,
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: plus I no longer feel obligation to think purely of peace.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: And he's put peace in a capital.
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: I think was actually Norway. That was to Norway. He
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: issued that message because he's having beef with the at
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: the moment, and we.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: Get all those Scandalwegian countries.
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, it all sort of it all sort
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: of melds into and but now that was at the
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: Norwegian PM because he's currently disagreeing with them because they're
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: you know, talking about whether or not he's going to
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: put some tariffs on on all these countries. But not
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: getting behind it a deal.
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: Tariff's on Denmark for not selling him, but Gland.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: It does feel I understand what he wants to do
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: with Greenland, but saying stuff like I don't have to
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: think only about peace anymore, it feels like he's throwing
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: the toys out of the cot.
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but he can't just go around taking countries. Well no, no,
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: you know, I mean, I mean Greenland has the right
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: to its own security. Yeah, that's the first point. But
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: I get it. I just want to make this point.
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: It goes back to what I said earlier. America is
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: putting America first. America is putting America's interests first.
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: Yes, and that's the reality military bases.
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but he wants the miss he wants, he wants underground. Hey,
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: can I just very quickly before we get to a break.
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: I just want to note this. We talk all the
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: time about councils in Australia that want to reduce the
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: speed limits to thirty kilometers an hour. Well, there's a
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: council in the UK that's just done it, and they
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: are twenty miles an hour, which is the equivalent of
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: thirty two kilometers an hour. Despite the fact that seventy
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: percent of residents didn't want it, and what do you
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: reckon the name of this town? Was this council woking him? Yes,
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: I think that probably says it all, doesn't After the
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: break we'll get into the papers. Tony Abbott is calling
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: for the culling of sharks after a fourth shark attack
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: in New South Wales in just forty eight hours. That
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: more coming up. Half of the break. Some breaking news
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: receiving that Dave Murray Basher, the former Governor of New
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: South Wales, the first female governor of New South Wales,
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: has died at the age of ninety five. This report
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: coming from the Daily Telegraph. She served as governor from
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: twentyd and one to twenty fourteen, and the Premier of
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: New South Wales, Chris Mins, has put out a statement
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: saying that he's saddened by her passing. He said, quote,
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: Dame Murray Bisher served our state with distinction as the
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: first female Governor of New South Wales from twenty one
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: to twenty fourteen, bringing to the role immense dignity and compassion.
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: She was a distinguished psychiatrist and a long standing advocate
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: for mental health, education and social inclusion. And he said
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: that a state funeral would be held for Dame Murray
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: in recognition of her extraordinary contribution to our state and nation.
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she's one of the most, if not the most
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: respected governor generals governor I should say, of New South
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: Wales maybe that we've ever had. I just remember only
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: because it was the first year I sort of arrived.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: I arrived in two thousand and two, went up. She
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: served obviously for you know, over to over a decker
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: and that people just love her. You would not find
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: anyone who didn't hold her in just the highest possible esteem. No,
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: there's honestly not a soul in the stated anything but
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: the best to say about it. So great innings, but
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: a wonderful woman. Anyway, Let's get to the Daily Telegraph
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: and something that's not wonderful is all the sharks that
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: are eating people and performer PM Tony Abbott has come
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: out to call for a reintroduction of shark culling. We
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: need to cull says the headline on the front page,
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: with a picture of Tony Abbott there. And of course
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: the poor kid Nico Antik, the twelve year old boy
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: who suffered terrible injuries in one of the recent attacks.
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: And we don't know whether or not he's going to
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: make it, but look it's a pretty it's a pretty
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: big call. But I got to say, I hate sharks
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: and I reckon we need to do something because four
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: in little more than a couple of days and it's
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: just no good anyway. Here's Tony Abbott on Shari earlier
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: this evening.
• 39:06
  Speaker 5: The spate of attacks for in just a few days
• 39:09
  Speaker 5: in Sydney. It hasn't been caused by murky water. It's
• 39:13
  Speaker 5: been caused by too many sharks. So let's have a
• 39:16
  Speaker 5: shark cull and the best way to do that would
• 39:19
  Speaker 5: be to bring back the commercial shark fishery.
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: And of course that was on Kredline, not Shari, which
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: means that I'm going to get culled by one of them.
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: I think that shark culling politically can be a disaster.
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: I mean, I remember being a young reporter in Perth
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: when the former premier Columbarnette introduced a catch and kill
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: policy and it absolutely derailed his entire campaign and it
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: forced him to backflick because the majority of West Australians
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: did not support him. And when you've got pictures of
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: sharks bleeding out in the water, splashed on the front
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: page of the paper. It is a disaster politically, I
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: don't know what the solution is to this. I mean,
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: this is this is tragic to have so many in
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: such a short amount of time. But I don't think
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: that shark nets work, to be honest, because I end
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: up catching a lot of other marine life, so I'm
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: not necessarily sure that they work to.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: Can't make an I'm not without breaking some eggs. I
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: don't think, you know what, Sharks also eat dolphins, so
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: even if the nets didn't catch other stuff, the sharks
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: would probably just eat them anyway.
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: And also, I mean, but we have smart drum lines
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: now we do, and we have these shark drones and
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: all sorts of things. So look, we should be using
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: a combination of all of these. I don't care what
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: is the most effective. We should just be using what
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: is most effective. But it also makes sense that we
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: should also kill and eat sharks like we do any
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: other form of marine lafe. Go down to the fish
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: and chip shop or to yourself some flake and do
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: your bit to remove some sharks from the ocean.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: Eat our way out of the crisis.
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: That's it. Let's go over to the Herald's sun Now
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: massive scandal on the front page headline nude photo bombshell
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: wife of ex Carlton boss suing him for defamation over
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: dick scandal and AFL investigation. The wife of former Carlton
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: president Luke Sayers is suing her estranged husband for defamation
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: after he allegedly implied she was to blame for posting
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: a dick pic on social media and made damaging claims
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: about her mental health. It's understood the accusations have been
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: made by Kate in filings to the VIC Supreme Court.
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: The explicit photo was published on his ex account, tagging
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: a woman who worked for one of Carlton's major Sponsor's
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: huge story over in Victoria, given it is an AFL
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: state and involving the wife of former Carlton president, but
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: ge huge allegations there.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and we don't know if it's huge or not.
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: And he's a very prominent business Victoria heavily tied up
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: with the former premier Daniel Andrews's big profile. This is
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: a big story that will certainly be unfolding down the
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: average sides on the front of the Australian Tomorrow buck
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: stops with Morrison. Interesting, isn't it? It's his end when
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: the Albanesi has attempted to shift blame for the genesis
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: sorry of Australia's anti Semitism crisis to his predecessor, Scott Morrison,
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: sparking an extraordinary war with the former Liberal Prime Minister,
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: who defended his record and labeled the Labour leader delusional
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: and cheap. Just today, after telling Parliament and the families
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: of the Bonde massacre victims that it was his responsibility
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: to eradicate anti Semitism, mister Alberanzi and Susan Lee engaged
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: in a heated and partisan question time, where the Labour
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: leader repeated his claims that he had been working on
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: a royal commission despite opposing it publicly for twenty five days,
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: and tried to attack the Opposition leader for failing to
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: present a bill based on her own antisemitism policy points.
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: As the political battle in Canberra resumed in between Parliament's
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: Monday condolences and Thursday's National Day of Mourning, mister Alberzi
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: asserted that all governments were to blame for antisemitism, taking
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: a foothold in Australia and singled out mister Morrison's administration
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: using historical quotes and figures. And I have to say
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: I watched that today and susanly hammered him all question
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: time about whether or not he would apologize to the
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: victims of Bondai, and then was asked this question about,
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: you know, whether or not his government had done enough,
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: and he was prepared with his list of everything and
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: everybody else has said about anti semitism at other times.
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: I don't think it was a great look. I think
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: he could have made the point without seeming so obvious
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: about it. I get what he's saying that anti Semitism
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: was not invented when his government came to power, which
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: is absolutely true, but I think it probably just looked
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: a bit like he was too keen to put it
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: on other people's shoulders. He could have just said, you
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: know what, we could have done better. This has been
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: a problem for a long time. We're going to fix
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: it now. Like would that have been well.
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: I don't think he intended to know he mentioned Scott
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: Morrison's name, but I don't think he attempted or wanted
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: to go specifically after him. What he was saying was
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: that this is absolutely my responsibility and I accepted, and
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: it's every prime minister's responsibility. And this is not something
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: that started in the last two years. This is something
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: that's been going on for a long time. I do know.
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: I can't about talking out of school, but he definitely
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: has been meeting with or had been before the Royal Commission,
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: been meeting with a lot of Jewish people and senior
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: community leaders privately, and I won't obviously say how they
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: were and he had I don't know exactly how long,
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: but I think up to about a week before he
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: announced it at least.
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but he said I will you know, there wasn't
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: a Morrison government didn't put an anti antisemitism on boy
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: in place. Well, let's not forget that that Gillian Siegel's
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: report sat on his desk for six months catching dust,
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: and then it took the murders of fifteen innocent Jews
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: before he actually went on maybe I should actually implement
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: some of these as well, implements.
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: The opposition that's been calling for.
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: Well, there's a lot of a lot of issues there
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: which we don't have time to discuss, but there's a
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: lot of issues.
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: It hates. That's seagulls report.
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: Now another story in the front of the Ease tomorrow.
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: Libb's eye quote as women only picks, so his largest
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: Liberal division will consider introducing gender quotas and running women
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: only pre selections after New South Wales leaders endorsed to
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: Proposal lane At, addressing a dearth of female MP's and
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: supporters for the party following the coalition's catastrophic federal election
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: lost last year. Female only pre selections.
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: The Labor Party may as well be the Labor Party.
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: Then if you're going to go down that route.
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: Well you know what I'm predicting it will look like
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: out back cam Hell because an extremely dry spell has
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: caused camels to storm central Australian communities in search of water,
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: running down fences, digging up water mains and leaving a
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: trail of destruction. Check it out. We have this incredible
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: footage of camel's running wild. This is absolutely bonkers everywhere.
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: I mean imagine like, imagine being trampled by camels. I
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: can't say it seems like.
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: The cab will for they're quite fun. If you go
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: out and pa cal Barry in Western Australia.
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: I haven't seen camel do that much damage to Australia.
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: Since camel at a turk, I.
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: Want to eat one they hate. They've got problems with
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: the sharks, they say, come, we've got problems with the camels.
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: Kill them and eat them. I reckon the camel, hump
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: them and that would have been and the complaints from
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: the r s p c A will be gumming fast
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: after the break. While we're talking about animals, he's a
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: smart one. A cow that's worked out how to scratch
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: himself with a brush, apparently the first in the world
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: that's after this. Ah. Now it's a new year and
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: it's time to bring back one of our favorite segments
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: the day, and today's entry is a woman from Queensland
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: by the name of and Tell Lee Thompson, and she's
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: been done by the court for drag trafficking. She was
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: trafficking myth. She spread misery, the court said, and she's
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: been spared jail over this. But have a look at her, right,
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: I'm just going to declare her the dope of the
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: day on the basis of the fact that you've just
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: been done for smuggling myth and then you walk out
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: the front of the court and think I know what
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: I'm going to do. I'm just going to give a
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: great big smile with my three teeth to the waiting friend.
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: Splash those pearly white women.
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: People try to avoid this stuff out the front of
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: the court, but she was very happy to show off
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: her pearly white So look, you've done it all.
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: Back thereof lack thereoff. Now, have you ever heard of
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: a scrunch bum scrunch bump? Excuse me, it's true, caleb
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: scrunch bumb tights. If you go to the gym, you
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: may have seen it. Women seem to be wearing them.
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: This is an example of them.
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: So basically I haven't heard of have seen?
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, basically sort of pull the fabric together to
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: create quote a subtle ruffle effect and it gives the
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: illusion of a fuller behind. But there are now calls
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: to ban it. There's a Facebook group doing the rounds
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: basically saying that they're a disgrace. This post called they
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: want to throw this trend out the door. They don't
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: look good on anyone, is the accusation, and many actually
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: agreed with them. I mean, I've seen people wearing them
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: and you can't help but just like, I just think
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: they look tacky. You want to get posh spice wearing.
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: Those They look like if you fell over, you would
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: just bounced straight exactly. That was my first though.
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: Put them on.
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: Now speaking of no, I can't say. I was going
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: to say, speaking of cows with backsides, but I didn't
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: say that. I said I was going to say that, Okay,
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: end of days. Right, if you ever wanted to know
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: what it was like to live in the last death
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: throws of human beings being at the apex of the
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: food chain, you're wrong. Cows have learned how to scratch
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: their own backs. A thirteen year old Swiss brown is
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: the first cow to show the ability to use tools,
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: scratching itself with a deck brush and even switching hands.
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: Look at that. This is incredible. What a moment for civilization.
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: I get the scrunch buns. I mean, we need to
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: can scratch.
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: The cows are going to take over. We have lost
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: all hope in the world. Thank you for joining us. Tonight.
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: Up next is the reder Pane He Show. Good Night,