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SPOOKY SEASON SPECIAL - Your pumpkin spice latte might be conjuring ghosts... · Paranormal Lens - A Crossroads Of Curiosities, LLC Production

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  All right. We've just been staring into the lens
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  for like a while because this is our first in
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  -person recording. If you guys are just listening,
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  you probably don't know that. So we don't know
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  how to do in -person recordings yet. We're awkward.
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  We just got back from MadCon. We intended on
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  doing one of those Monday bonus episodes live.
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  in person we have like a two mic setup that we
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  were gonna bring and record during the event
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  but um we were too busy a little bit a little
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  too busy we were too busy it was it was too good
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  of an event uh to stop and record for an hour
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  so that's just a testament to madison seminary
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  to the entire mad crew How much people love it.
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  The event raised over $13 ,000 for the Cystic
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  Fibrosis Foundation. This is incredible. It's
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  an incredible event. And spooky season is officially
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  upon us. So while we're still here, we literally
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  just got back last night from Madison, Ohio.
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  We wanted to get together and still crank out
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  a normal episode at the very least. We'll do
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  some Monday bonuses of the next couple events.
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  Now we're in person. Let's talk for a normal
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  pod about spooky season. Spooky season. And I'm
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  not just talking about pumpkin spice. We'll get
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  to the pumpkin spice debate later. We'll save
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  the fun stuff for the end. But people do say
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  that this season, spooky season, Halloween time
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  is when the veil between our life and the next
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  life is at its thinnest. We're going to be talking
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  about October. Through a paranormal lens. Welcome
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  to our podcast where we take deep dives looking
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  at various topics through a paranormal lens.
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  We are recording this right at that time of year
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  where we are flipping our clocks back, turning
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  them back, getting ready for October and all
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  that Halloween has to bring. It's September 21st.
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  The 21st. Night of September. I forgot. You remembered.
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  I remembered. He didn't. I did not remember the
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  21st of September. Anyways, we'll get into the
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  fun stuff after. The main conceit of this podcast
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  is, do you guys believe that the veil is at its
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  thinnest this time of year? Do you even believe
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  that different times of year can contribute to
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  more or less activity? Yeah, I think. It's definitely
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  seen or I feel like I felt that paranormal activity
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  really does amp up around this period of the
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  season. Is that because of some sort of other
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  supernatural phenomenon that's going on, like
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  the veil being thin? Or is it because people
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  are more into the spookiness and have that energy
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  and are in a sense inviting? In the spookiness
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  of the season. Maybe both. I'd add a third option.
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  We tend to do, as we kind of alluded to before,
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  we have all these events this time of year. We,
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  especially now that we're like an LLC and we're
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  doing tours and more events, we're just doing
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  more. So more tends to happen when you're, you
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  know, putting yourself in more. uh uh more locations
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  and in more environments to experience activity
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  it's not like how many events are we doing in
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  january for example none right now exactly so
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  sad who in northern michigan is driving through
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  the blizzard to go investigate a cemetery i mean
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  yeah no not me yeah so um i that might contribute
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  to why no one's talking about january being the
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  most haunted season um What about you, Angela?
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  I mean, I've never really thought about it until
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  I met you guys. I mean, I've only been investigating
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  for like three years. I started in 2022 and I've
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  just, I mean, I wouldn't have thought about it.
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  I thought it'd be haunted. I mean, things would
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  be active throughout the whole year. I mean,
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  that is the case, but like ramped up activity.
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  Definitely. Yeah. Makes a difference. When you
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  did your couple, because you started really investigating
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  once you met us, but you have done investigations
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  in the past, like ghost tours and that sort of
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  stuff. Yeah. Were those all around Halloween
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  time? No. No? That was in like spring. Okay.
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  So around the spring time is really when you...
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  Yeah, but I mean, isn't that another thing too?
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  Like the beginning of spring, that's usually
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  another thin veil too that people usually...
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  see a lot of activity too yeah yeah and we'll
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  get back to that later um first let's kind of
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  close the chapter on halloween temporarily halloween
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  we've done stuff on halloween itself on all hallows
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  eve you know the whole month of october is it
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  what's your final thoughts is halloween itself
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  and i do have some data to share with you in
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  a moment if we want to transition to that but
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  do you guys feel anything around fall just even
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  outside of investigations do you feel something
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  in the air that's different than the air maybe
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  in spring or summer i i don't i don't know but
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  people feel i mean no it feels the same to me
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  it's just when you're out seeking these type
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  of things You're going to find it more during
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  each time of year. I don't think it feels different.
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  Yeah. I think, I don't know. It's, it's hard
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  to say because yes, it feels different. But is
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  that just because it is the change of the seasons
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  and the spooky time and spooky time inviting
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  the spookiness and all that jazz. It's, it's
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  hard to say. Cause like, if we didn't celebrate
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  Halloween or. All Hallows' Eve or All Saints'
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  Day or Dia de los Muertos, would we have the
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  same feelings? Like, if someone didn't know about
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  the holidays, would they also feel the change?
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  I don't know if that makes sense. That is. I
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  mean, you get in the... Mindset. We'll get to
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  the fun stuff after. I promise everyone. We'll
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  get to the pumpkin spice. The favorite Halloween
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  time movie. What does pumpkin spice have to do
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  with all of this? It's the signature scent or
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  flavor of Halloween. The scent of pumpkin spice
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  attracts the ghost. Yes. 100%. That is fact.
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  Smell it and you're like, ooh, gotta go to this
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  person. Gotta go haunt people. But it doesn't
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  actually, I mean, we'll get, again, you guys
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  really want to talk about pumpkin spice. I mean,
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  I don't have to hand it up, but I know. I really
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  don't want pumpkin spice. But, like, it doesn't
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  smell like pumpkin. It smells like cinnamon.
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  Yeah. So, I mean, so, like, vampires hate garlic
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  and ghosts love cinnamon? Is that what you're?
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  Hey, that's a good thing. What is cinnamon used
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  for, like, in, for things, you know? What? What
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  kind of things? What do you mean? Like spells
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  and things like that. I thought you were asking
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  about baking and stuff and recipes. It's like
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  it can be used in anything, Angela. No, I'm talking
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  about like in witchcraft and making spells and
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  that type of thing. Like what is cinnamon used
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  for? That's something you can look up on your
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  own time. No, but maybe like was pumpkin spice?
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  and you're using cinnamon and that type of thing
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  a lot, then maybe that's throughout the whole
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  year. Maybe that's contributing to it. I don't
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  know. Long stretch. Your long stretch is if more
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  witches drink pumpkin spice year -round, the
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  world would be a more haunted place. It looks
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  like Bree's looking it up. um and all the people
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  that can't see she typed wag is cinnamon no i
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  said and then it had to auto correct to what
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  um it is in witchcraft used to speed up spell
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  work and enhance manifestation uh for prosperity
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  love protection and spiritual awareness oh that
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  is an ai overview it's not actually something
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  from like a real person yeah but still but spiritual
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  awareness spiritual awareness maybe more people
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  are more uh when the veil is more open and there's
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  more spiritual awareness with the cinnamon and
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  the pumpkin spice maybe a location is more haunted
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  when there's a pumpkin spice latte around because
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  who doesn't go ghost hunting with coffee i mean
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  the amount of times i've like just gone and you
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  know even just doing b -roll i always get pumpkin
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  spice yeah you know this time of year this time
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  of the year who isn't if you're going on a paranormal
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  investigation or or a ghost tour or not even
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  specifically like going on a ghost hunt but just
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  someone who's got tickets to go to a haunted
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  place to like do a tour they're probably going
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  to bring a coffee with them and because of the
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  season it's more than likely going to be a pumpkin
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  spice coffee of some sort So is that enhancing
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  their spiritual awareness and having more activity
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  happen? We were making fun of Angela a little
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  bit, but she might be honest. She might be honest.
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  It's not as long of a stretch. Because like,
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  you know, that could be, I mean, a spell is really
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  just a recipe. Yeah, it is. So if the recipe
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  is, you know, you're watching all these horror
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  movies, you're in the mindset, you're going to
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  investigation, maybe meditating before, even
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  if you're not like a practicing witch or anything.
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  or even psychic and you're opening yourself up
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  having that cinnamon both as a flavor and a scent
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  you know adding to the mix this time of year
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  could be the one ingredient that pushes the recipe
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  into perception land also at the same time think
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  about how long saying like the fall is like thinner
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  veil how long that has been going on for has
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  been cinnamon been used during that time of the
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  year for like thousands of years i don't know
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  i mean but also you got to think about it too
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  because like we kind of touched on using curses
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  and spells and stuff in the previous podcast
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  about curses like if you are putting cinnamon
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  in your coffee but don't think of it as spell
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  work. Does it hold any validity? Oh my god, am
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  I witnessing abuse? For all the people that are
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  just watching, so as soon as Britta mentioned
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  curses, a car outside started honking its horn,
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  so we kind of smirked, and then she bumped into
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  me, like a full -on brawl broke out. I think
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  I might have to call the cops. Is Angela cursed?
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  Physical abuse. Angela's not cursed. Go back
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  and listen to our podcast about curses. Yeah.
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  There's that as well. Episode 3. Even people
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  that listened to the episode came out with the
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  conclusion that she is cursed even though the
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  conclusion was she's not cursed. Wait, what?
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  People didn't really listen to the full thing.
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  They just listened to like 5 minutes and they're
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  like, Angela's cursed. I'm like, did you listen
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  to it? The point was she's not cursed. But maybe
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  she is. You never know. I'm not. I'm not cursed.
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  No. I gotta wear shoulder pads next time we do
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  it in person. We're recording. Anyway, what were
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  you talking about, Bree, before we got started?
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  I was just saying, like, if you're not using
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  cinnamon or pumpkin spice in your drink with
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  the intent of it being spell work, is it gonna
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  still be valid? That's true, because, like we
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  said... curses and spells i feel like it's a
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  lot of intention but what we said before even
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  if you're not going in with the intent of i'm
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  gonna you know conjure a ghost tonight right
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  but you have an intent to experience activity
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  when you go on a ghost hunt so that's like an
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  intent and there is the intent for like oh i'm
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  getting a fall drink for the spooky season yes
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  it's spooky pumpkin spice yay Halloween so anyways
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  so I think you were gonna say something and then
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  we went on a cinnamon and pumpkin spice rant
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  this is what we do on Paranormal Lens we kind
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  of make a joke about something and then realize
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  wait we're onto something and then go down this
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  big rabbit hole where the use of cinnamon and
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  pumpkin spice drinks and bringing your pumpkin
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  spice drink to a ghost tour might actually be
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  spell work in a way. So many people don't realize
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  that it's actually a spell and it's kind of crazy.
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  Yeah, we had to spell it out for people. What's
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  Brianna, what is pumpkin spice used for in witchcraft?
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  Oh, there's other ingredients to pumpkin spice
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  that we didn't mention. Cinnamon, ginger, nutmeg,
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  and clove. Okay, but those are all things he
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  uses in spells a lot of the times. Yeah, it's
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  the same type of thing. Abundance, protection,
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  spiritual awareness. So what is clove and nutmeg
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  and ginger often used for? I'm not going to look
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  up every single one. I think that's a tangent.
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  If the viewers want to look into it, they can.
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  If you want to look into it, Angela, you can.
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  I'm not going to take up half the podcast looking
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  up individual spices. We did the predominant
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  ingredient. Now we're getting into the nitty
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  gritty. No one drinks pumpkin spice or brings
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  pumpkin spice and it's like, do I smell clove?
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  I love the strong clove aroma. Am I getting a
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  hint of nutmeg? Oh, maybe there's just a little
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  sprinkle of ginger in there. Aren't you technically
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  a ginger? No. Your hair looks more blonde. It
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  depends on the season. No, I don't dye my hair.
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  Disregard. Depends on the season. It sometimes
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  looks ginger. Okay. Well, maybe we'll do a fun
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  blog post. Don't... In front of the mic. Sorry.
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  She's not used to this. We had to tell her not
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  to slurp a coffee drink into the mic earlier.
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  Let's insert that audio. You wanna? Yes. So now
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  that you guys all... experience that that i do
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  have some data to share with you guys i did this
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  a little bit ago unrelated to this podcast but
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  i forgot about it and then this jogged my memory
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  we between 2017 and 2021 made a web series during
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  our undergrad and college called afterlife road
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  a haunted michigan web series we investigated
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  over 200 of the most allegedly haunted locations
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  in michigan when they say we Those two. Not me.
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  I'm out of the picture. This is going to get
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  interesting because Angela said she met us in
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  2022. 2023. I started investigating in 2022.
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  Officially investigating. She started investigating
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  in 2022. Met us in 2023. All this data, this
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  web series and everything, was between 2017 and
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  2022 -ish. Give or take. What I did was I took
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  Because after we graduated college, investigations
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  became more sporadic and we don't really have
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  data on like the exact dates that we necessarily
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  did everything. And we didn't always record things
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  or like write down what happened on these investigations.
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  We were just doing them to do them in the moment
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  and have fun. Right. So I realized we have 200
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  investigations from a set period of time that
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  have dates. And we have the videos to be able
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  to, if I, because a lot of the cemeteries, especially,
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  because every cemetery, slight tangent, every
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  cemetery is Riverside Cemetery, Riverbend Cemetery,
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  Oak Grove Cemetery, Oak Hill Cemetery. Maple
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  Crest. Maple Hill. Maple Road. So all the cemeteries
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  ever to exist are named after the river, hill,
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  or trees nearby. Yeah. Can we innovate? The cemetery
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  naming industry? I mean, there are some out there
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  that are different and have names like Striker.
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  There should be a pumpkin spice cemetery. But
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  that's named after a person. A person. Pumpkin
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  spice. Pumpkin spice cemetery. Pumpkin spice
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  cemetery. Or pumpkin cemetery and spice cemetery.
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  And they're on opposite sides of the town. Or
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  road. That'd be really cool. And then the road
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  name is just coffee. Or Latte. Latte Road. Latte
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  Road. We have a latte, good ideas. But anyways,
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  going back to the data. So we had all these 200
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  investigations worth of data on locations, experiences,
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  and dates. So what I did was I went through every
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  single one of these investigations, over 200,
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  and I gave each one just... First instinct, a
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  rating between 1 and 3. 1 being not haunted.
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  2 being, yeah, there's activity, can't deny that,
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  but it's not really memorable. 3 being, okay,
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  this one is a standout, in a league of its own,
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  S tier, super fucking haunted. Crazy shit happens
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  there. Crazy. Like, 3 is crazy, guys. Which didn't
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  happen very often, but it did. It was crazy.
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  Being ghost hunters. Being ghost hunters. We
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  don't experience activity often, but when we
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  do. Anyways. They're crazy. Anyways, so we have
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  this data and there are some interesting results
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  because I went through and initially I asked
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  it to just graph. All the three out of threes,
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  the crazy shit, put on a graph over the span
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  of the four or five years, all the three out
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  of three most haunted locations. And there were
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  two times a year where all the three out of threes
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  happened. October. Okay. And February slash March.
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  Okay. But then I went through and I realized
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  most of our investigations. we're in october
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  because as we said at the top of this we tend
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  to do a lot of events we you know there's a sort
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  of a societal pressure especially when we're
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  making things like podcasts and stuff to release
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  things in october right we need to have stuff
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  out that's when people are wanting to watch this
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  stuff you know is i always joke it's kind of
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  stupid to release a paranormal movie in november
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  yeah kind of like because everyone's kind of
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  over it at that point yeah you missed a boat
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  by like three weeks what was the matter during
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  november then we get the real faint spooky fans
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  we get the real fans we get that that's like
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  we don't get the if you're listening to this
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  in november you're a real fan reach out across
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  roads of curiosity cure what's her email Listen,
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  I don't even need to tell you because you're
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  such a real fan. If you're a real fan, you would
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  know our email. You will tell us our email because
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  we're not a fan of ourselves, but you're a fan
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  for us. You will know our email. You're never
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  over it. Why does this all sound vaguely like
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  a threat? Like, I feel like now they're not going
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  to want to reach out to us. Unless they know
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  our email. If you don't reach out to us, then
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  you're not a fan. And how dare you? I don't want
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  my fans. What are we doing? Oh my god. I don't
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  even remember what we were talking about. Oh,
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  November. Okay. Anyways, so then I, to clarify
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  and reiterate, the most three out of three, most
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  haunted places we've ever investigated, all of
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  the three out of threes, no outliers, were between,
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  or only occurring between the months of October,
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  February, and March, which were the three months
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  where all the three out of threes happened. Then
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  I realized... like I said we've done most investigations
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  in October plus in 2017 when we started that
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  was fall semester of college so we started in
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  October so we don't have you know the data from
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  earlier in that year you know so there is more
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  there's some more opportunities to have three
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  out of three so what I did was then I went through
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  and I took the average of each month during those
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  four years so October 2017, October 2018, October
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  2019, etc. And I created an average number of
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  the 1, 2, and 3. 1 being not haunted, 2 being
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  haunted, 3 being crazy shit of every month. So
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  now we're just looking at the averages of months
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  from this sample size. And I looked at every
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  month that had an average rating of 2 .5 or higher.
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  Okay. So then we narrowed it down. And now we
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  have 1. Time of year where there's an average,
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  in our experience, during undergrad, 200 plus
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  investigations, one time of year stood out compared
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  to all the others as having an average rating
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  of 2 .5 or higher out of three. Can you guess
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  what time of year that was? Spooky time of year.
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  Is it going to be Halloween or is there going
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  to be that time span between February and March?
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  That's the question. Because... Honestly, if
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  I'm thinking about it, I feel like we have had
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  our spookiest stuff happen in the February to
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  March timeframe. What do you think, Angela? I
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  think you're going to say October, Halloween
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  timeframe. Ooh, I got to be the deciding... You're
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  the one who has the facts, so there's no deciding.
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  Yeah, that's right. Facts. Yeah, you're not deciding,
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  you're telling us. The winner is... Now's the
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  time you get to do this. She's been wanting to
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  do this so long. Brianna wins. Really? Holy fuck.
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  Oh, yeah. Wow. Excuse me. Not like you haven't
• 24:49
  said worse. I don't know. I wasn't expecting
• 24:54
  it. I'm going to be honest. I wasn't expecting
• 24:56
  that. But they would know. They would know more
• 24:59
  than me. And that's continued. We have made,
• 25:03
  at this point, four short films. We did a trilogy
• 25:08
  of short films called Afterlife, Timeless Spaces,
• 25:12
  and Dweller. And then recently we relaunched
• 25:14
  with a film called The Possession Tapes. Can
• 25:18
  you guess what month all four of those was filmed
• 25:22
  in? Oh my gosh. Like, literally. In the spring
• 25:26
  time frame. I would say between March and May.
• 25:29
  Yeah. I can get more specific. Well, I mean,
• 25:32
  we've filmed Dweller in April. No, we filmed
• 25:36
  Dweller in March. Oh, I thought it was April.
• 25:38
  Yeah, never mind. It was the whole point. Because,
• 25:40
  you know, your birthday. It was my birthday.
• 25:43
  You filmed it on my birthday. I was thinking
• 25:45
  your birthday was in April and not March. I'm
• 25:47
  a terrible friend, obviously. Why was that? I'm
• 25:52
  not going to say it. Say that again, Bree. Say
• 25:54
  it again? No. All right. So we filmed Dweller,
• 26:00
  which won best new media slash TV feature. I
• 26:05
  don't think I'm getting that right. What did
• 26:06
  it win? I don't know. Best something. New media?
• 26:11
  Hey, if you're one of the November listeners,
• 26:14
  tell us what Dweller won at the Midwest Weird
• 26:18
  Fest last year. Actually, it was this year, right?
• 26:23
  Please tell us in that email. Also let us know
• 26:26
  our email. Also let us know not to drive to Ohio
• 26:33
  and back in a 24 hour span because we need sleep.
• 26:36
  Do you want to be our new HR manager? Because
• 26:43
  it's too much for me. Free is the HR manager.
• 26:48
  Me and Ben made the decision that Brie is the
• 26:51
  most responsible to use our HR manager, more
• 26:54
  of ghost manager. We're just repeating a bit
• 27:00
  from last week now. Yep. Please stand by. We
• 27:06
  filmed Dweller on my birthday in March. We went
• 27:09
  back a year later, literally the same weekend,
• 27:12
  just a, woohoo, same weekend we filmed Dweller.
• 27:14
  What ended up happening then turned into... The
• 27:18
  possession tape. Possession tape. And then rewinding
• 27:22
  to Time of Spaces, we filmed that beginning of
• 27:26
  March. It would have been spring break. Rewind
• 27:28
  to Afterlife, we filmed most of that, most of
• 27:33
  the new footage in March. Yeah. There are a few
• 27:36
  interviews that I did into April. So all the
• 27:40
  major films we've done were filmed during March.
• 27:43
  And then if you think about it, that actually
• 27:45
  makes sense because... A, like I said, spring
• 27:48
  break. That's, you know, we would have free time.
• 27:52
  It's between right when a new semester is starting.
• 27:55
  Not a lot is happening. We're coming out of hibernation
• 27:59
  when we don't really investigate during the winter,
• 28:00
  especially here in Michigan. Even though there's
• 28:03
  still snow on the ground, there would be some
• 28:05
  like little warm spurts. Some. Some. Some. Not
• 28:08
  very far. Not a lot. Not enough. But when we're
• 28:11
  antsy to investigate, every little warm spurt
• 28:14
  is a... And then I refuse to give in to this,
• 28:18
  guys. Guys, if you're listening to this episode,
• 28:21
  this might be the one you want to watch on YouTube.
• 28:25
  This is a good one. These two co -hosts are wild.
• 28:30
  Anyways, but then if you want to think about
• 28:32
  the pressure to release something in October.
• 28:36
  You can't film it in October to release a film
• 28:39
  in October. Plus a lot of these film festivals,
• 28:42
  because everything we make. We don't just post
• 28:44
  on YouTube. We're, like, legit filmmakers that,
• 28:47
  like, do the film festivals. We actually try
• 28:50
  to make good actual film. Not, like, typical
• 28:53
  YouTube ghost investigation things. Like, we
• 28:58
  try to make an actual good story and information
• 29:00
  involved with our films. Yeah, we don't put out
• 29:03
  anything that doesn't have a purpose. Yeah. The
• 29:05
  only thing, out of the four films, the only thing...
• 29:08
  that didn't do the film festival circuit with
• 29:11
  Timeless Spaces, which was just a 15 -minute
• 29:13
  YouTube video thing that we made in conjunction
• 29:16
  with the Festival of Oddities. Anyways, so we
• 29:20
  do the film festival circuit, and a lot of these
• 29:22
  film festivals, you need to submit. They have
• 29:25
  a May, June, July sort of deadline because they
• 29:30
  have to watch all the films, you know, prepare
• 29:34
  for the festival and all that. So working backwards...
• 29:37
  it would make sense to film these things around
• 29:40
  spring to then, you know, distribute, go the
• 29:44
  film festival circuit. A lot of these film festivals
• 29:46
  are planning ahead for October. So it does kind
• 29:50
  of make sense from that strategic standpoint.
• 29:52
  But also, I mean, do we think that could be another
• 29:57
  liminal time of year when all the snow is melting,
• 30:01
  it's starting to get warm, things are waking
• 30:03
  up? everything that's been hibernating. What
• 30:07
  are your thoughts on that? Isn't there another
• 30:10
  point in time in spring where they say the veil
• 30:14
  is the fence? Isn't that around the spring solstice?
• 30:17
  Yeah. I don't know when that is though. I can
• 30:21
  use my phone this episode because usually I am
• 30:24
  using my phone to record and I'm not. So now
• 30:28
  I can Google all the things that I'm usually
• 30:30
  like, I don't know. Okay. Spring solstice, she's
• 30:35
  looking up. What day is spring solstice? March
• 30:43
  20th for 2025. So that's around the same time.
• 30:49
  Because we were filming Dweller on your birthday,
• 30:52
  which is March 24th. So I think what we're getting
• 30:56
  at is around the solstices, you know, around
• 31:00
  the changes in seasons, just in general, you
• 31:03
  know, very liminal times, times where things
• 31:08
  could be more likely to happen. And we've definitely
• 31:12
  seen that in two of the major shifts in seasons.
• 31:16
  We didn't see one or experience one personally
• 31:19
  in our personal anecdotes, you know, and our
• 31:23
  experiences. contributed to this data set because
• 31:26
  we didn't investigate between fall and winter
• 31:30
  because winter break we were away from each other
• 31:33
  there were blizzards happening in michigan not
• 31:36
  a good time to go to a cemetery and then a lot
• 31:38
  happened between spring and summer because we
• 31:41
  investigated a lot during our undergrad So then
• 31:47
  we left and summer vacation and also mosquitoes.
• 31:53
  You know what I would want to do? All those places,
• 31:57
  Ben, that you gave as like a one, rating of one.
• 32:01
  Those were not during the March timeframe, right?
• 32:05
  I'm guessing. Right. No, there would have been.
• 32:09
  There would have been? Yeah, the average. for
• 32:15
  this would have been 2 .5 or higher and there
• 32:17
  were some 2 .5s yeah but what about the ones
• 32:20
  i mean there's one spring most most investigations
• 32:23
  were a one yeah i i was trying because if i was
• 32:27
  just wondering like if you went to those very
• 32:30
  non -active ones during that you didn't visit
• 32:33
  during the summer not summer spring solstice
• 32:35
  time frame and you went back and during did those
• 32:41
  What is it called? Non -active investigations.
• 32:44
  I wonder if they would have been more. More active.
• 32:48
  More active. That's interesting. I mean. Yeah,
• 32:53
  that would be a fun experiment. I don't think
• 32:55
  we would feasibly in our lifetime be able to
• 32:57
  go to like. 150 locations, because I don't think
• 33:01
  we have... I don't think we have 150 spring solstices
• 33:05
  left in us. Well, dude, ones that are closer
• 33:08
  to us that had a lower rating. True. We already
• 33:13
  have 30 years of investigating experience between
• 33:16
  us combined, so we're about a fifth of the way
• 33:18
  there. That means nothing. That literally means
• 33:21
  nothing. It's just a number. Ages, but a number.
• 33:25
  That's true. Time is just a number two. Time
• 33:29
  isn't real. Yeah, I don't think it is. Never
• 33:31
  heard of her. No. Oof. Maybe that's why, because
• 33:36
  Madison Seminary especially, time is really warped
• 33:39
  and weird. So maybe that's why we're all kind
• 33:43
  of... Literally, we had how many people while
• 33:46
  we were there were like, we've seen your guys'
• 33:49
  stuff here before. We were not there. We had
• 33:53
  Annabelle and Jacques with us, and they were
• 33:54
  like... Our haunted objects. And they're like,
• 33:57
  oh, we've definitely seen like these, like this
• 34:00
  combination. Four people came up to us. And we're
• 34:03
  like, well, have you ever been to Michigan? Because
• 34:04
  we go to Michigan events. And they're like, no,
• 34:07
  we're from Ohio. And it wasn't like a social
• 34:09
  media, like I've seen this on. No, it was like
• 34:11
  we've seen them in person. And we're like, we've
• 34:14
  never, like this is our first time at this event.
• 34:16
  Like we've never brought these objects here.
• 34:19
  Time at Madison is just very non -existent. And
• 34:24
  so the booth that. was next to us they were like
• 34:26
  yeah literally this is our local haunt this is
• 34:28
  where this is where we all here and they were
• 34:31
  like 10 minutes from the road they were like
• 34:32
  yeah i remember you guys from last year and we're
• 34:34
  like no but they were like but i recognize your
• 34:37
  cabinet and i recognize your doll you guys have
• 34:40
  been here before and we're like no this is our
• 34:42
  first time and then we had another and there's
• 34:44
  a man he walked up and said the same thing to
• 34:46
  us when they were looking at our things and then
• 34:48
  i was talking to another person and we're telling
• 34:50
  them what booth we were at and you're like oh
• 34:52
  yeah you guys were like talking about like annabelle
• 34:56
  i say like i remember annabelle from last year
• 34:59
  too and i'm like no we don't this is our first
• 35:02
  time what dimension and literally the people
• 35:05
  who are in the booth next to us i was like i'm
• 35:08
  like well you know we are at madison time here's
• 35:11
  wonky and they're like oh yeah we know it's super
• 35:13
  like the time things here are super weird so
• 35:17
  it's entirely possible that like we just I don't
• 35:22
  know. Remembering for some weird reason. That's
• 35:24
  what everyone says. This isn't just one person
• 35:27
  saying time is weird at Madison that we're just
• 35:30
  extrapolating. This is everyone. This is a known
• 35:33
  phenomenon that's gone back. I don't want to
• 35:38
  go into the thing I did in a certain specific
• 35:43
  location of the seminary that I filmed because
• 35:46
  spoilers for an upcoming project. Save that for
• 35:50
  that. I had a pretty wild experience. I mean,
• 35:54
  we all did. Yeah. But specifically Brianna, too,
• 35:58
  later in the night. But we'll get into that in
• 36:01
  a later pod for this project. You know, it's
• 36:03
  spoilers. But I had a very impactful experience
• 36:07
  that I was talking with somebody about. And she
• 36:13
  said, yeah, that might have been my ghost from
• 36:15
  last year. Which is just weird for anyone to
• 36:20
  say. But it made sense. But it's like some people
• 36:26
  people who aren't into this as much as we are
• 36:30
  that would be really hard to wrap your mind around
• 36:32
  because when people say ghost they mean like,
• 36:34
  oh, past the dead. People who died. Time isn't
• 36:39
  a thing there, really. But there's a living person
• 36:43
  in front of us who has a ghost there. It's a
• 36:48
  hard thing to wrap your mind over, but that's
• 36:53
  a common thing there. If you think about residual
• 36:57
  energy, why do you have to be dead to contribute?
• 37:03
  If you have such an impact in life on a location,
• 37:06
  when does the energy stick, so to speak? She
• 37:13
  has a big... She has a big impact. Yeah, there's
• 37:18
  this prominent person. It was that location in
• 37:20
  that specific spot Ben was doing his thing at.
• 37:24
  So it would make sense. So that means you need
• 37:29
  to stick around because we will eventually be
• 37:32
  releasing what happened. So no spoilers. If you're
• 37:39
  a real fan, you probably already know what happened,
• 37:41
  though. Maybe. You're with us, even in spirit.
• 37:51
  I love this new bit. But do you love this new
• 38:00
  bit? Let us know in that email. That we don't
• 38:04
  know. That we don't know. Listen, at least I
• 38:11
  didn't say Accolade for All Productions at gmail
• 38:13
  .com. I was this close. I was this close. I was
• 38:16
  this close. Who are we? What are we doing? What's
• 38:21
  the topic again? What are we talking about? On
• 38:23
  this episode of Streams of Consciousness. Please
• 38:26
  stand by. Stop kicking the microphone. I'm sorry.
• 38:33
  I got nothing in my hand. I got nothing in front
• 38:36
  of me. I want to do something. She doesn't know
• 38:42
  how to function. This girl has never left Zoom.
• 38:47
  This is her first time in the real world. And
• 38:51
  she doesn't know what she's beating me up. She's
• 38:54
  kicking the microphone. Hi. Nice to meet you,
• 38:57
  Angela. We've never met before. Hello. Hello.
• 39:04
  Glad to see you outside of Zoom. Hi. Hi. Anyways,
• 39:09
  there's a whole world out there, Angela. Expand
• 39:12
  your horizons a little bit. You can leave Zoom.
• 39:15
  You're stuck in Zoom. I know you had to go on
• 39:17
  Zoom in March of 2020, but you can come out now.
• 39:21
  Come out. I feel like I'm doing an exorcism.
• 39:26
  The demon of Zoom, come out. Release Jesus in
• 39:30
  the name of Jesus Christ. Get out of your Zoom.
• 39:35
  Wait, so in this circumstance, is Zoom the demon
• 39:38
  or is Angela the demon in Zoom? Can we tie this
• 39:44
  to Egregores somehow? I feel like that's where
• 39:48
  we always land. Anywho, let's get to the fun
• 39:50
  stuff before we wrap this. What's your go -to
• 39:53
  Halloween movie? The Conjuring Universe. That's
• 39:58
  not one movie. Yeah, but be any of them. Look,
• 40:01
  I'm a fan. I'd say... I do like the Conjuring
• 40:06
  movies, but those are any time of the year. They're
• 40:10
  spooky movies. Specifically, maybe a Halloween
• 40:14
  movie, I would say classic Hocus Pocus. Or Practical
• 40:21
  Magic. I don't know that movie. You don't know
• 40:24
  Practical Magic? You're missing out. We need
• 40:27
  to watch it. Also not a fan of Hocus Pocus. Each
• 40:32
  to their own. I haven't watched the new one.
• 40:36
  So the Hocus Pocus scale would be Brianna 3,
• 40:38
  me 2, Angela 1. Yeah. 1 .5. I can watch it, I
• 40:46
  just don't love it. I don't even know if I would
• 40:49
  be willing to watch it, I'm going to be honest.
• 40:51
  So it would be a 1 for me still. I'm indifferent.
• 40:56
  What's your favorite Halloween movie? Well, I
• 40:59
  don't have a favorite, but... I was thinking
• 41:02
  about this earlier, and if you told me Halloween,
• 41:05
  what movie right now reminds you of Halloween?
• 41:09
  Like, what's the first movie you think of when
• 41:10
  you think of Halloween time? I'm going to throw
• 41:13
  a curveball, and I couldn't. I tried asking myself
• 41:17
  this multiple times, and I came to the same answer.
• 41:22
  It's no one else's Halloween movie. What is it?
• 41:25
  Just say it. Ice cream man. No, that's my Christmas
• 41:30
  movie. That's your Christmas. Ice Cream Man.
• 41:37
  Showing my sign, Clint Howard, Ice Cream Man
• 41:39
  sign. Sign. My favorite movie is Ice Cream Man.
• 41:44
  Yeah, my Letterboxd bio says, the only person
• 41:48
  on Letterboxd to have the Ice Cream Man ring
• 41:50
  higher than Shawshank Redemption. And I haven't
• 41:54
  found anyone else that fits in with that. Anyways,
• 41:59
  my Halloween movie is The Exorcist 3. There's
• 42:05
  a third one? We watched it together! Okay. 55
• 42:13
  minutes? We need Zoom! 55 minutes talking about
• 42:21
  pumpkin spice? Are you kidding me? Are you kidding
• 42:25
  me? 55 fucking minutes talking about pumpkin
• 42:29
  spice. No one's going to listen to this. Yes,
• 42:31
  they will. I think this is our best one yet.
• 42:36
  Thank God we didn't talk about cloves and nutmeg.
• 42:43
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• 42:45
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• 42:47
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• 42:56
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• 42:58
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