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Mega Edition: Johanna Sjoberg's Deposition In The Maxwell/Virginia Roberts Suit (Part 7-10) (5/24/26) · The Epstein Chronicles

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Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles.
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In this episode, we're gonna pick up where we left
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off with a Johanna Schoberg deposition. So let's get right
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back to it, shall we. Manager, Do you recall a
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meeting with her in about two thousand and six when
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she was in town for some helicopter training? Answer? I
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do recall that. Manager. Do you recall giving her some
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massages during that period? Answer yes? Manager. Do you remember
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going out to dinner with her and to a movie? Answer?
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I remember to a movie. I don't remember if we
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went to dinner. I remember her cooking dinner. That was
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another way she impressed me. She knew how to cook
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like a chef. She had done some culinary training. Manager,
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and you guys had a normal type conversation. Answer Yes,
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it was very fun. Mcaulay objection, Manager, I would like
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to take about a five to ten minute break. If
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that's okay. They go to a break, and then they're
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back at eleven twenty five. Right back at it, manager, Hi,
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I believe when we left off, I was asking you
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about massages that you gave to Glane. Did Glenne pay
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you when she got a massage? From you. Answer yes, Manager,
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do you know how much she paid you? Answer? I
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believe it was two hundred It was the going rate manager,
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the same you were getting paid by Jeffrey. Correct answer, yes, Manager,
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Glane was not present when you were giving massages to Jeffrey.
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Correct McCauley, objection Schoberg correct, Menager. At some point Jeffrey
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became more aggressive with you correct answer correct McCauley objection, Manager,
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And what does that mean to you? Become more aggressive? Answer?
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He was pressuring me to do more than I was
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comfortable with doing, Menager. Is that what ultimately caused you
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to leave working for Jeffrey? Answer? What caused me to
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leave was when it was made public what I was doing, Menager,
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What do you mean by that? Answer? Well, after I
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had spoken with the police, report the police, and there
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was a police report, I did not realize that was
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public knowledge journalists would get a hold of. So at
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one point the news Channel twelve showed up on my
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door asking me questions, Manager, when Jeffrey was pressuring you
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to do more than you felt comfortable with? Did you
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observe him being more aggressive in general outside of the
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massage context. McCauley objection show Burg. No, Menager, do you
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know whether he was taking any type of steroids? Answer no, Menager.
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Did you ever see him wearing a patch or something
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like that? Show Burg? I don't recall, Menager. Did you
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tell anyone that Jeffrey was becoming more aggressive with you
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contemporaneous with when it was happening? McCauley objection. Witness No, Menager,
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when Jeffrey asked you to do other things besides a
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normal massage, did he offer to pay you additionally? Answer yes, Menager?
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How much? Answer one hundred dollars extra? Can I clarify, Menager? Absolutely, answer,
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he didn't never say he would pay me more, but
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when the massage was more than just a massa and
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it was sexual, then he would pay me more. Menager.
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It wasn't a discussion, it's just what happened. Answer correct, manager.
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Thank you for clarifying. The things that took place with
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you and Jeffrey behind closed doors were when you were
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a consenting adult. Correct answer yes, McCauley objection. Witness correct, menager,
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And you did not have knowledge of what took place
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with other women behind closed doors and Jeffrey. Correct. McCauley
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objection witness, correct, Menager. Do you recall ever giving an
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interview to a reporter from the Mail on Sunday? Answer yes, Manager,
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you told that reporter. I believe that the police report
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painted a picture that it was a big orgy all
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the time, but it wasn't. Answer what I saw. I
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did not see anything out in the open sexually me personally. Menager. Right,
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you did not see orgies happening in the pool, for example.
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Answer no, Menager, you did not see people engaging in
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sexual conduct in the open areas of the home correct
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answer right, McCauley objection, Menager. When you became aware of
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the allegations against Jeffrey, those came as a surprise to you.
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Correct McCauley objection witness, correct, Menager. And the surprise was
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that it involved underage girls making that allegation. Correct McCauley
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objection witness, Correct, Menager. You were asked some questions with
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Ms McCauley about nude photographs that were present in the
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home or the homes. Answer yeah, Manager in Palm Beach,
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I believe you said there were some in the room
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where the massage table was. Answer yes, manager, Can you
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tell me what you recall seeing answer it wasn't candid photos.
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They were all like staged answer like a model. Answer yes,
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and my I don't recall necessarily knowing any of the
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people in those photos. I remember at one point there
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was a photo of myself. But manager, were they fully
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frontally nude or were they staged like with you know,
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parts of the body showing? Answer I really only remember
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topless photos. I don't remember full frontal photos menagers, so
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exposing the breasts but not the genitals. Answer not that
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I recall. And Glayne's bathroom, I believe there was a
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photo of her topless or a painting. Menager a painting answer,
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uh huh, Menager. Did you see any nude or semi
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clad photos of young girls? Answer no, Menager, preteens for example.
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Answer no, menager, something you would consider a child pornography?
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Answer never, Menager. Other than in the bathroom or the
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massage room at the pom Beach Home, do you recall
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any other place in the pom Beach Home where you
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saw any of these topless photos of women? Answer? I
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remember there being photos everywhere, and the ones that stick
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out in my memory are the ones. There was a
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photo of Glaine with the Pope. It would not surprise
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me if there were naked photos around. I just didn't
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retain them in my memory. Menager. So when you say
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there were photos everywhere, you mean just photos in general. Answer? Yes,
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they had a lot of photos around the house. McCauley objection, Menager,
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And Glaine was not topless in a photo with the Pope,
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just so I'm clear. Answer correct, Menager. I just want
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to make sure that we get that record really clear.
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So you recall there being photos everywhere, You just remember
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a couple sticking out and your brain as being topless.
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Answer yes, Menager. And the walls on the staircase to
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the upstairs were not just covered with nude photographs to
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your recollection. Answer to my recollection, I just I don't remember. Menager.
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Did you observe what you would consider to be child
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pornography on any computer in the home? Answer no, Manager.
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Did you observe anyone taking photographs of young girls in
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the home? Answer no, Menager. The photograph of yourself that
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you saw, was that something that you had posed for? Answer?
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Not like professionally. But I was just sitting and I
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believe Jeffrey took the photo. I was just sitting on
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a couch upstairs in the bathroom, Menager. It wasn't taken
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by a hidden camera. Answer no, No, I was smiling
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in the picture, Menager. And likewise, in the New York Home,
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did you see anything you described as a large painting
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or a photograph that was in the massage room? Answer yes, Menager.
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Do you recall any other pictures of semi clad or
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naked females? Answer I don't recall, Menager, anything that you
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would consider to be child pornography that you saw in
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the New York Home. Answer no, Menager. And likewise in
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New Mexico, answer I don't recall, Menager. Do you recall
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seeing any semi clad photos in New Mexico at all?
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Answer I do not recall, Menager and the Virgin Islands.
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Answer yes, in his bathroom master bathroom. Answer and what
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do you recall, if anything about that photo? Answer there
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was a photo of me in there, Menager. And again,
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was that something that you were okay with? Answer yes, Menager.
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Jeffrey Epstein never told you that he knowingly had sexual
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contact with an underage girl. Correct McAuley. Objection Schoberg. When
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I asked him if the accusations were true, after I
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spoke with the police. He said, yes, but they lied
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about their age. Menager, how did that conversation come about? Answer?
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He asked me if the police had ever spoken to me?
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And I asked him if it was true, menager, and
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you were talking about underage girls. Answer correct, Menager, And
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he said that he had been lied to by those girls.
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Answer yes, menager. Did he say anything else to you
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about it? Answer no? Menager. Did you ask him anything
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else about it? Answer no, Menager. Did you attempt to
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have any conversation like that with Glenne Maxwell? Answer no. Manager.
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I saw one press report that said you had met
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Kate Blanchett or Leonardo DiCaprio. Answer I did not meet them. No.
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When I spoke about them, it was when I was
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massaging him and he would get off. He would be
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on the phone a lot of that time, and one
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time he said, oh that was Leonardo or oh that
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was Kate Blanchett, or or Bruce Willis that kind of thing, manager,
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is so name dropping? Answer? Yes, Manager, So you had
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not met Kate Blanchett or Leonardo DiCaprio. Answer I have not. Manager.
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Would you remember if you had? Answer? I would hope
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I would remember. Manager. Did you meet Cameron Diaz? Answer no? Manager.
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Bill Clinton answer no, Manager. Did you see Bill Clinton
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on the island? Answer no, Manager. Did you see Bill
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Clinton in a helicopter being flown by Glenn Maxwell? Answer no, Manager.
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Did Glenn Maxwell ever tell you that she had flown
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Bill Clinton in her helicopter? McAuley objection Shoberg, I don't
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recall her saying that, Menager, did you ever meet Senator redacted? Answer?
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I don't know what he looks like. I might have
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answer if I told you that he was from Maine?
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Would that stick out in your mind? And just to
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add here, they're obviously talking about George Mitchell? Answer it should,
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but I don't recall meeting him. Manager. Do you ever
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remember meeting prime minister who'd Barrock from Israel? Answer no? Manager.
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Do you recall meeting the prime minister or any prime
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minister's answer no, Manager. Any foreign presidents answer no Manager.
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Nobel Prize winners answer not to my knowledge. Manager, Naomi
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Campbell answer no. Al Gore answer no. Alan Dershowitz answer no,
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Les Wexner answer no. Tom Pritzker answer no. Kevin Spacey
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I may have already asked you, but have you met
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Kevin Spacey answer no, Manager. Did you meet Governor Bill
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Richardson of New Mexico? Answer hm, I want to say
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that he was supposed to come to the dinner when
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we were in New Mexico. I don't know if I
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met him. I believe that he and Glaine had dinner
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separate from myself. Manager Jean Luke Brunell. Answer yes, manager,
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you did meet him? Answer yes, Manager, tell me about it.
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Answer he was just in the house at one time
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in Palm Beach manager socializing answer yes. Manager. Did you
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observe him to be with underage girl? Answer? I don't recall. Menager,
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did you give him a massage? Answer I don't think
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that I did. I give a lot of guests massages.
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I don't remember any of their names, so it could
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have been any of those people besides the movie stars. Menager,
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you would know? Answer exactly, menager. And did you engage
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in sexual contact with any of the guests for whom
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you gave a massage? Answer no. That's why he would
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call me for his guests, because I was not comfortable
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with the sexual contact. So he still wanted to employ
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me as a massage therapist. But it was all normal.
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Got to have a little bit of truth sprinkled in
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with your lie, right, Menager. So this was just an
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actual conversation that you had. Answer No, But I noticed,
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I noticed that I wasn't. I wasn't massaging him less
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and less and massaging his guests more. Menager. So there
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was a change in the frequency with which you were
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giving Jeffrey Epstein massages. Answer right, Menager, and an increase
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corresponding to massages giving to guests. Correct answer, yes, Manager,
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Did any of the guests for whom you gave a
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massage mentioned that they expected something sexual? Answer? No, Manager,
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Did they ask you to engage in sexual contact and
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you refused? McCauley objection. The witness answers no. Back to menager,
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how about Marvin Minsky? Answer I don't know, Manager, George
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Lucas answer no. Manager Donald Trump answer no, Did you
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ever massage Donald Trump? Answer no, Menager, Sorry, I have
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to ask, but did you ever have sex with Alan
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Dershowitz in the back of a limousine with Virginia and
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Jeffrey President. McCauley objection. The witness absolutely not. Manager. Do
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you know who Alan Dershowitz is? Answer? I do manager
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you would remember, answer I would remember that. Manager. Did
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you ever see Virginia Roberts with any of the people
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that I just asked you about? Answer no, Manager. Did
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Virginia ever talk to you about having been with any
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of those people? Ms McCauley objection, Answer no, Manager. Did
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she tell you that she had met any of those people?
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Answer no? All right, folks, We're gonna wrap up right there,
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and in the next episode we'll pick up where we
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left off. All the information that goes with this episode
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can be found in the description box. What's up, everyone,
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and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles. In this episode,
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we're gonna dive right back into the Johanna Schoberg deposition
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and pick up where we left off. Menager, I believe
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you saw in the police report a reference to a
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friend of Jeffrey named Glenn and his wife. Answer uh huh. Manager,
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do you remember them? Answer vaguely, Menager, Tell me what
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you remember. Answer I remember they had an apartment in
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on Breaker's Row. I went up there and massaged. It
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may have been more than once, but I only really
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remember one time. But there was nothing sexual. Menager, neither
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with the wife nor with Glenn. Answer right, Menager. Do
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you remember the apartment? Answer I only remember that I
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had to carry my massage table up some stairs. Menager,
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So you actually gave the massage on a massage table?
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Answer yes, Menager. Does that help you place it in
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time as to when that might have occurred? In other words,
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did you get your massage license at some point and
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a massage table? Mccauleay objection back to Shoburg. Yes, he
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bought me my massage table around the time that I
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went to massage school, so it could have been any
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time after that. If I thought really hard, I could
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remember when I went to school, but I want to
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say it's around two thousand and three. Menager. Nothing sexual
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happened with Glenn? Answer no, Menager. Did Glenn ask you
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to give him a massage on the floor of the home?
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Answer I don't recall. Menager. Did you ever discuss Glenn
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with Virginia? Answer to my recollection manager. Did you ever
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go to Virginia's home? Answer no, Menager. Do you know
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where she lived? Answer no? Manager. Did she talk about it?
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Answer not that I remember. Menager. Did you see anything
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in your interactions with Virginia that led you to believe
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that she was a sex slave. McCauley objection, show burg ancers,
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No menager. Did you see anyone forcing her to remain
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in the home? Answer no, menager. Did you see her
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look traumatized at some point? McCauley objection, show burg ancers,
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No menager. Did you see anything that led you to
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believe Virginia Roberts had been trafficked? Sexually trafficked to a
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third party? McCauley objection, witness, no menager. Did Virginia ever
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tell you that she had been trafficked? Answer no. McCauley objection. Menager.
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Did you hear anyone direct Virginia Roberts to go have
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sex with someone? Answer no, menager. Did Jeffrey ever ask
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you to go have sex with another person? Answer no manager.
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Did Glenn Maxwell ever ask you to go have sex
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with another person? Answer no, menager. Did Glenn Maxwell ever
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ask you to give a massage to someone else? Answer
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no manager. Did Glenn Maxwell ever ask you to dress
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up in any outfits? Answer no manager. Did she ever
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buy you an outfit for you to wear in terms
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of a sexual profile? Answer no manager. Did she tell
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you what kind of clothes you should buy? Answer no manager.
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Did she direct you to go get Brazilian bikini waxes.
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Answer no, manager. Did she direct you to go get
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your teeth whitened? Answer no, Manager. I would like to
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mark as an exhibit I have no recollection what number
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we're on Exhibit five. The refer to document was marked
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by the court reporter for identification as Shoberg Exhibit five. Manager.
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Have you seen this article? But answer? It has followed
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me everywhere? McCauley, I'm sorry. Can I just ask you
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to put the Baits number on the record? Menager? Sure,
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it's Baits marked Roberts one one three one through one
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one three eight. Menager, What do you mean that it
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has followed you everywhere? Answer? Well, if you google me,
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it comes up. Menager. I wanted to just ask you
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a couple of questions. On the third page, towards the bottom,
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there's a photograph that begins we had a picture taken
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and just to orient you, this is in the discussion
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around the Prince Andrew meeting you had. Did Prince Andrew
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at any other time besides the time you already described
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in your testimony? Answer no, Menager. If you want to
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take a look at the paragraph before I ask you
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a question. Answer okay, Menager. In that paragraph it describes
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that Andrew Virginia sat on the chair, and then Andrew
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sat on another chair and you sat on his lap.
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McCauley objection, Manager, is that what it says? Answer? That's
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what it says, Menager. If you recall telling that to
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the reporter? Answer yes, Menager, and this was back in
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two thousand and seven or so. Answer yes, manager, as
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you sit here today, does that make it? Does that
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refresh your recollection that Virginia was sitting in one chair
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and you were sitting in another with Andrew? Answer yeah,
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if I said that, then I remember it that way.
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I'm just trying to remember whether we were on a
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couch or on a chair. I just remember the boob's part,
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the hand on the boobs. Manager, I understand that that
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part stands out. And I also completely understand if you
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don't remember things that happened a long time ago. Answer right, Manager.
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I'm just wondering if, having looked at this news article,
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it refreshes your memory that Virginia was sitting in a
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different place. Answer in a different chair? Menager? Does it? Answer?
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It does? Say that? Does it refresh my memory? Menager? Okay,
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that's fine. Answer yeah, sure, manager. If it doesn't, it doesn't.
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I'm just asking, did Virginia say anything to you about
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how having met Prince Andrew before this time in New York?
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McCauley objection. Answer, she did not, say, Manager. Did Prince
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Andrew say or do anything that led you to believe
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that he had met Virginia prior to that time? Answer?
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I don't recall. Manager. Did you ever see Al Gore
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on the island? Answer no? Manager. Did you ever see
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his wife, Tipper Gore on the island? Answer no? Manager.
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What is your understanding of what the lawsuit we are
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here today is about? Answer? I understand that Glaine is
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calling Virginia a liar, and so Glaine is suing Virginia.
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I'm sorry, strike that reverse it right. Virginia is suing
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Golaine for defamation. Manager, And do you know what Virginia
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said about Glaine? Answer that Glaine recruited her Menager, Do
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you know anything else that Virginia said about Calaine? Answer
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only what was spoken to me. Manager, and I should clarify.
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Don't tell me anything your lawyer has conveyed to you.
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Answer exactly, That's all I know I've met with Virginia
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once last summer, Menainger. Okay, tell me about that. Answer
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she there was a moderator between us, like an investigator,
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and she was in Palm Beach, and it was about Jeffrey.
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It was less about Colaine. I don't remember specifically about
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Colaine at all. Menager. So you met with Virginia and
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an investigator at the same time, answer yes, Menager. And
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they were what talking to you about Jeffrey in context?
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McAuley objection. Shoberg answers, Basically, they were trying to find
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people that would help her get her story out, because
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this is when Dershowitz. Dershowitz was saying nothing was happening
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and he was calling her a liar, and she was
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just trying to find people to back up her story, Menager.
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And what did you understand her story to be? Did
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she tell you? Answer that she was recruited to give massages,
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sexual massages and have sex with people such as Dershowitz
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and Andrew. But I knew none of that at the time, Menager. Right,
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did you tell them anything? Did you tell them during
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that meeting that you knew of anything about her being
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recruited to give sex to either Jeffrey or other people.
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McAuley objection, shoe Berg, can you rephrase, Menager, Yes, that
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wasn't a very good question. What did you say during
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this meeting with Virginia and her investigator? Answer? Basically that
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I believed her, even though I she never spoke to
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me specifically about what was going on that once I
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learned everything that had happened based on reading the police report,
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I believed her side of the story. Menager. And did
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she tell you what her side of the story was? Answer?
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You know, it's just that she wasn't a liar. That
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you know she was there to have sex with men
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that Jeffrey wanted her to sleep with. Menager. Did she
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tell you in that meeting who she had sex with?
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Answer no, Menager. Did she name any of the famous people? Answer?
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Only Dershowitz came up. Menager. Did you too talk about
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the incident in New York with the puppet? Answer? I
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don't recall, Menager. And you formed this opinion about whether
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she was a liar based on things that you've read
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in the police report. Mccauleay objection, Schoberg. I form my
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opinion based on my experience in the house, Menager, Okay,
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and what experience in the house help you form your
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opinion that what Virginia is saying is true? Answer? You
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know Jeffrey being open with me about what other girls
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did for him, and that I was not one of
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those girls. He was always trying to recruit me, almost
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in any way he could, so that I could be
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one of them and travel with them and live this
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life of luxury, if I only, if I only did this.
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So after five years of learning what was happening, I
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can look back knowing I only know Virginia for a
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very short time. Looking back, I can make assumptions about
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what was required of her. Manager. Did she tell you
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how old she was when she started working with Jeffrey?
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Answer she didn't. Manager. Did she tell you how long
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she had worked with Jeffrey? Answer no? Menager. Have you
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read all the things that have been attributed to her
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in the press? Answer many of them? McCauley Objection Shoburg,
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I don't know what I've read all of them, but
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I've read some manager in this meeting with Virginia and
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the investigator, you said Glenn Maxwell did not come up.
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Answer not that, not that I recall, Menager, do you
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know the name of the investigator? Answer Valerie rivera menager.
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Have you read the statement that Gallann Maxwell issued to
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the press? Answer no, Manager. Do you know what it says?
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Answer no, Menager. You said you have read some of
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Virginia's statements to the press, but not all of them.
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Answer I don't know how many there are. I know
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I read something. I don't know if I read them all. Manager.
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Have you read her book manuscript? Answer no, McCauley objection. Manager.
23:45
Did she tell you she was writing a book? Answer no, manager.
23:49
Did she tell you she was trying to get a
23:50
book deal? McCauley objection. Shoburg answers no manager. Did she
23:56
tell you that she hired a ghostwriter? Answer no, McCauley objection. Manager.
24:02
Did she tell you she hired a literary agent? McCauley objection,
24:05
witness No manager. Did you speak with John Connolly? Answer yes, Manager.
24:12
When did you speak with John Connolly? Answer he was
24:14
first calling me, around the time that everything was coming
24:17
out in two thousand and six. I didn't say a
24:19
lot to him, but I did say a few things,
24:22
and I asked him not to use my name, and
24:24
he used my name, and then he quoted me as
24:26
saying things that I never said, Menager. And do you
24:31
know who he quoted things that you have never said
24:33
to Answer? I don't remember the news outlet, No, Manager,
24:38
so it was published somewhere. Answer somewhere on the internet. McCauley.
24:43
Something that you said to John Connolly got twisted? Answer? Yes,
24:47
he put words in my mouth, Manager, and it was
24:50
misreported and published. McCauley objection, Witness, correct Manager. Have you
24:57
spoken to him lately? Answer? No. He called me again
25:00
at the beginning of last year, around New Year's last year,
25:04
but I did not return his call. Menager. Do you
25:07
recall what it is he attributed to you falsely? Answer?
25:11
It was mostly about how I felt about certain things.
25:13
I don't remember specifically what he said, but he was
25:16
giving an opinion for me that I never spoke to
25:19
him about. Menager and you did not hold. Answer Well,
25:23
I can't remember what it was, yeah, Menager. Okay. Do
25:27
you know whether Virginia has lied about any of her
25:30
experience McCauley objection the witness. I don't know that she
25:35
has lied, Menager. Do you know that she has told
25:38
the truth? Answer? As far as I know, she has Menager.
25:42
Do you know whether the press is accurately reported everything
25:45
that Virginia has said? McCauley objection, Schoberg, I don't know, Menager,
25:51
other than John Connolly and the police. Who else have
25:54
you spoken to about your experience? Answer? Well, the woman
25:57
from the Deli mal Her name is Lee Menager, and
26:02
that's defendants Exhibit five, not defendants exhibit just exhibit five. Correct.
26:07
Answer correct, Menager. Did Wendy Lee or Lay accurately report
26:11
your statements? Answer? She did a little bit of embellishment
26:15
as well, But the facts are all true, Menager. And
26:18
what parts do you believe are embellished? Answer near the
26:21
end when she was doing a summary, when she wrote, sure,
26:25
I had a good time, but I also think it
26:27
damaged me a bit. I don't recall saying that. And
26:30
there's another part in there where she said I said
26:33
that I made a deal with the devil, which I
26:35
never would have said that the words she used Menager
26:39
on page two of eight, it's about even with the
26:42
hem of your skirt. Answer, I made a pack with
26:45
the devil in exchange for excitement and glamour. I was
26:48
only a college student. I was hard up and foolish
26:51
that I never said any of that. I was a
26:54
college student. That's true, hard up and foolish. I would
26:57
have never called myself foolish. Menager? Were you paid for this? Answer?
27:02
I was paid fifteen hundred dollars Menager. And how long
27:05
did the interview last? Answer? A couple of hours? Menager?
27:09
Where did it take place? Answer at Cafe Blowed in
27:13
the Brazilian Court Hotel in Palm Beach. Manager. Who else
27:17
besides Wen d Lee and John Connolly and the police
27:20
McCauley objection, Menager and Virginia and the investigator. McCauley objection.
27:26
Did you talk to about your experiences? Answer? Family and friends? Menager?
27:31
Did you speak to any other reporters? Answer? I had
27:34
other reporters calling me. I avoided most of all their calls.
27:38
I had someone coming at me, stalking me. I don't
27:40
know who he was. He offered me twenty five thousand
27:43
dollars to give a story, and I turned him down. Menager?
27:47
Who answer? He shut up in my work multiple times? Menager?
27:51
There were other stories printed in the Daily Mail, but
27:54
not by one delay later? Did you see any of
27:56
those stories? I'm sorry, let me be a little clearer
27:59
they attributed comments to you? Answer I don't recall specifically,
28:03
but I feel like I stayed on top of it
28:05
and I wasn't surprised when my name was brought up. Menager.
28:09
Do you recall giving another interview? Answer no, never, Menager.
28:13
Do you recall saying anything that was printed other than
28:16
John Connolly thing that you believe to be an accurate? Answer? No, Menager.
28:21
Was there anybody else present when you were interviewing with Wendy?
28:24
Answer no? Manager. Was she recording it on a recorder?
28:28
Answer yes, Menager? Have you ever heard that recording? Answer no, Menager.
28:34
Do you know whether the police were recording their interview
28:36
with you? Answer yes, Manager, have you heard that recording?
28:40
Answer no? All right, We're gonna wrap this episode up
28:43
right here, and in the next episode we'll pick up
28:45
where we left off. All of the information that goes
28:48
with this episode can be found in the description box.
28:52
What's up, everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles.
28:56
We left off with Menager asking questions about the interview
29:00
with Wendy Lee, so we're going to pick up right there. Manager.
29:05
Do you know whether the police were recording their interview
29:07
with you? Answer yes? Manager, Have you ever heard the recording?
29:12
Answer no, Manager. Did you ever receive notification that you
29:16
were named as a victim in any of Jeffrey Epstein's
29:19
criminal cases? Answer no, Manager, other than the fifteen hundred
29:24
from Wendy Lee. Did you receive any other money for
29:27
making any statements? Answer no, Manager. Did you give an
29:31
interview to Virginia's attorneys? Answer yes, McCauley, you can say, yes, manager.
29:38
When was that answer two weeks ago? Roughly? Manager? And
29:42
who was present during that meeting? Answer my lawyers and
29:45
several others? Manager, several other what? Answer lawyers? I don't know.
29:50
I don't know who they all are. Manager. So McCauley,
29:53
you recall being there? Answer yes, Manager, mis Schultz, you
29:57
recall being there? Answer no, I didn't learn. No, you
30:00
weren't there. Next question Brad Edwards. Edwards's answers yes, Next
30:05
one Paul Cassell Answer maybe I don't remember, manager? And
30:11
was that interview recorded? Answer? I don't know, it may
30:14
have been. I don't remember. Manager. Did anyone ask your
30:18
permission to record it? Answer? Maybe I don't recall. Manager.
30:22
Were you shown any documents during that meeting? Answer? Flight logs? Menager,
30:26
any other documents. Answer No, Manager, What did miss McCauley
30:31
or mister Edwards or any of the other lawyers say
30:34
to you about glene Maxwell. Answer? They just asked impressions.
30:38
They never said anything about her. Manager. Were you shown
30:42
a copy of any report that came out of the interview?
30:44
Answer which interview? Manager, the one with Virginia's attorneys McCauley
30:50
objection shoberg No, Manager, you testified earlier about an incident
30:55
with a camera that Gleainne Maxwell had given you. I
30:58
want to ask you some questions about that. Answer Sure, Manager,
31:02
Do you know when that was? Answer? That was in
31:04
two thousand and two? Manager, And why does that date
31:08
stick out? Answer because I was living where I was
31:11
living specifically, and where I had the phone call. Manager,
31:15
Tell me what you remember about the conversation. Answer. I
31:18
had been over to the house prior messaging Jeffrey, and
31:22
I got a phone call from her, and she told
31:24
me she had a camera for me for my photography class.
31:27
But yet she couldn't give it to me yet because
31:30
during the massage, I didn't finish my job and she
31:33
had to finish it for me. Manager. Did she say
31:37
what she meant? Answer? No, but I knew. Menager, was
31:41
there any other time that you had discussed with her
31:43
finishing your job? Answer not that I recall, manager, any
31:48
other time. You just recalled discussing with her anything about
31:51
your sexual contact with Jeffrey mcaulay. Objection witness No, Manager,
31:56
did she give you the camera? Answer? I did get
31:59
the camera. Manager, Okay, when did she give you the camera? Answer?
32:04
I guess the next time I went to the house manager.
32:07
And what was said at that time? Answer? I honestly
32:11
don't know that she handed it to me. I remember
32:14
it being there for me. Manager. What kind of camera
32:16
was it? Answer A Canon rebel thirty five millimeter? Manager.
32:21
Do you still have it? Answer? I do not. No
32:23
one uses thirty five millimeter anymore. Manager, what's that answer?
32:28
No one uses thirty five millimeter anymore? Manager, Back to
32:31
the cell phone conversation. Answer right, Manager, was it your birthday? Answer?
32:37
It was just I was taking a photography class and
32:39
I needed a camera. Manager. Do you know her to
32:43
be a photographer? Answer not a professional, but I knew
32:46
she was interested in photography. Manager. Did you see her
32:50
with the camera? Answer yes? Manager. Did you see her
32:53
taking photographs of nude people? Answer? No, manager. Manager, did
32:58
she ever ask you to take a photograph of a
33:00
semi clad or naked? Answer? Did she ever ask to
33:04
take a photo of me? Manager? Semi clad or naked? Answer? No, Manager?
33:10
Did she ever ask to take a photograph of you
33:12
at any point? Answer? I don't remember, Menager? Did you
33:15
tell anyone else about this conversation? You couldn't give it
33:19
to me now because I hadn't finished my job? Answer? No, Manager.
33:23
I think I'm going to reserve the rest of my
33:25
time for recross, so you all, I guess ken take
33:29
a break, mister Lewis, Can I have one second? Manager, sure, McAuley.
33:34
We can go off the record, videographer off the record
33:37
at twelve oh nine. After the recess, they come back
33:40
and it looks like Menager has some more questions. Menager, Sorry,
33:44
just a couple more questions. It sounds like there may
33:47
have been an additional telephone conference that one micn strue
33:51
as a meeting with attorneys. Is that true? Answer? Correct? Manager?
33:55
All right, tell me about that answer. They just wanted
33:58
to We had met Pryor and they just wanted to
34:01
clarify a few things and ask a few more questions.
34:04
Menager Okay. What did they clarify? Answer any other specific
34:08
times that I had, you know, seen Galaine naked, or
34:11
if I had, you know, had any sexual massages with her,
34:14
any type of questions like that Menainger. Okay, And what
34:18
did you tell them about having any sexual massages with Glaine?
34:22
Answer that I was not asked to do to perform
34:24
anything with her, Menager. And you did not, answer correct, Menager.
34:30
And what did you tell them about specific times of
34:32
seeing Glaine naked? Answer only when she would swim or
34:37
get a massage, Menager. And that swimming you mentioned earlier
34:41
skinny dipping answer correct, Menager. And I think you said
34:45
perhaps some other time that you saw her jump off
34:47
a dock and swim. Answer correct, yes, Menager in the
34:51
nude Answer yes, Menager. And then you saw her under
34:55
a towel during massages? Answer yes, mener. Is there any
34:59
other time you recall seeing Gleane Maxwell naked? Answer no, Menager.
35:04
Is there anything else about that telephone conference with the
35:07
attorneys to clarify that you recall the topics? Answer no, Manager,
35:11
All right, thank you. I think we can go off
35:13
the record now and when they come back, it's sigared McCauley.
35:16
Now recrossing, you'll want to show Berg, so let's get
35:20
right to it. McCauley, Johanna, I'm going to ask you
35:23
a couple of questions and their follow up questions. When
35:26
Laura was talking to you, she mentioned some names of
35:29
famous people that you most of which you had not met.
35:32
Did you ever meet anybody famous when you were with
35:35
Jeffrey Epstein? Answer Michael Jackson. McCauley, Oh really, and where
35:40
was that? Answer at his house in pom Beach. At
35:43
Jeffrey's house in Palm Beach McCauley, did you massage them? Answer?
35:47
I did not, McCauley. Anybody else you remember? I know
35:50
you mentioned David Copperfield earlier. Anybody else? Answer No, I'd
35:54
remember that, McCauley. I believe you also testified that you
35:58
had never had a massage before you started working with
36:01
Jeffrey and Golane. Is that correct answer? I don't recall
36:05
having a massage before then, McCauley. And I think you
36:08
said on the first day, when you were doing the
36:10
clerical work, Maxwell mentioned that you might be able to
36:13
get a massage. Is that correct answer? Yes, McCauley. Did
36:18
you tell Maxwell that you had never had a massage
36:21
at that point. Answer I don't remember, McCauley. Did you
36:25
remember telling Jeffrey that you had never had a massage?
36:28
Answer no, McCauley. And then when you were talking about
36:32
the massage, the first massage, when you were being in
36:35
the room with Jeffrey and Emmy answer uh huh, McCauley.
36:39
And I know you said that Emmy was naked or
36:41
took off her clothes at some point answer uh huh, McCauley.
36:45
And then you laid on the table and then you
36:47
changed positions with her. Is that what happened? Answer yes,
36:51
I don't remember the sequence, but at one point she was,
36:54
I was, and Jeffrey was. McCauley. And in the time
36:58
when there was a change over, for example, when you're
37:01
on the table and Emmy is not on the table
37:03
and Jeffrey is not on the table, did Emmy at
37:06
that point remain naked or did she actually stop and
37:09
get dressed and continue massaging. Answer I don't recall her
37:13
getting dressed, but I would probably remember if she massaged naked. McCauley.
37:18
Do you know if Jeffrey remain naked during his massage?
37:22
Answer he was never like naked standing up. He always
37:25
covered himself with a towel. McCauley. I believe I asked this,
37:28
but I just want to clarify to make sure that
37:31
I did. Did Maxwell ever ask you to bring other
37:34
girls over to or for Jeffrey? Answer yes, McCauley, yes.
37:39
Answer yes McCauley. And what did you did you do anything?
37:43
In response to that answer, I did bring one girl
37:47
named no redacted. It was some girl named redacted that
37:52
I had worked with at a restaurant, and I recall
37:54
Glaine giving me money to bring her over. However, they
37:57
never called her to come Callie. And then I believe
38:01
you mentioned that one of your physical fitness instructors you
38:04
brought a physical fitness instructor. Was that correct? Correct McCauley.
38:10
And what did she do? Answer? She gave him like
38:13
a training session twice McCauley. Twice. Did anything sexual in
38:18
nature happened during the session? Answer? At one point he
38:22
lifted up her shirt and exposed her bra and she
38:24
grabbed it and pulled it down. McCauley. Anything else? Answer
38:29
That was the conversation that he had told her that
38:32
he had taken this girl's virginity the girl by the pool. McCauley. Okay,
38:37
did Maxwell ever say to you that it takes the
38:40
pressure off of her to have other girls around? Answer?
38:43
She implied that yes, McCauley. In what way? Answer sexually? McCauley.
38:49
And earlier Laura asked you, I believe if Maxwell ever
38:53
asked you to perform any sexual acts, and I believe
38:56
your testimony was no. But then you also previously stated
38:59
that the camera incident that Maxwell had talked to you
39:02
about not finishing the job. Did you understand not finishing
39:06
the job meaning bringing Jeffrey to orgasm? Menager, objection leading
39:11
in form McCauley. I'm sorry, Johanna, let me correct that question.
39:15
What did you understand Maxwell to mean when she said
39:18
you hadn't finished the job with respect to the camera manager,
39:21
objection leading in form answer, She implied that I had
39:25
not brought him to orgasm McCauley. So, is it fair
39:29
to say that Maxwell expected you to perform sexual acts
39:32
when you were massaging Jeffrey manager, objection leading form and foundation. Johanna,
39:39
I can answer yes. I took that conversation to mean
39:43
that it was expected of me. McCauley. And then you
39:46
mentioned I believe when you were testifying earlier that Jeffrey
39:50
told you a story about sex on the plane. What
39:53
was that about, Menager objection Hearsay Shoberg. He told me
39:59
one time, Emmy, he was sleeping on the plane and
40:01
they were getting ready to land, and he went up
40:03
and woke her up, and she thought that he meant
40:06
he wanted a blowjob, so she started done zip his pants,
40:09
and he said no, no, no, no no, you just
40:11
have to be awake for the landing. McCauley, do you
40:14
recall witnessing any sexual acts on the plane? Answer no, McCauley.
40:20
Did Emmy ever talk to you about performing sexual acts
40:22
on the plane? Answer no. McCauley. We looked earlier at
40:26
the police report, and I just want to clarify you
40:29
identified some areas where there were discrepancies in that report,
40:33
and you can take another look at it if you want.
40:35
But other than the discrepancies you pointed out, is that
40:38
a recollection of what you remember telling the detective? Answer yes,
40:43
Manager objection, outside the scope of cross McCauley, you mentioned
40:48
that there was a time when you noticed that Maxwell
40:50
was around a little bit less. Answer, Uh huh. McCauley.
40:54
And I believe you said that was during the middle
40:56
of the time you were with Jeffrey. Do you remember
40:59
approximately when that was your wise? Answer? I don't. I
41:03
would say it was probably some time between two thousand
41:05
and three and two thousand and four McCauley. And what
41:09
made you think that? Answer? I just saw her less
41:12
and less at the house McCauley. Were you there more
41:15
at the house during that time period? Answer no, not necessarily.
41:19
It's just at the beginning she was around a lot,
41:22
and then I would see her occasionally without him, though
41:25
one time we spent a few days together in two
41:27
thousand and six, she wasn't there at all. McCauley. So
41:30
you saw her in the Is it fair to say
41:33
that you saw her in the two thousand and five
41:35
two thousand and six timeframe? Answer yes, McCauley. Then we
41:39
were talking about the photography earlier, about the photographs. Did
41:43
Maxwell ever ask you to take nude photos of yourself
41:45
for Jeffrey? Answer? She asked me to take photos of
41:48
myself for Jeffrey. Yes, McCauley. And did you do that? Answer?
41:53
I did not, McCauley. And the photos that were around
41:57
that were in the bathroom that you mentioned a couple
41:59
of times places that were photos of view. Who took those?
42:03
Answer he did. McCauley, and you were talking about the
42:06
Palm Beach House and describing an area where there were
42:09
just a lot of photographs. Is it fair to say
42:12
that there could have been nude photographs amongst those photos
42:14
that you saw? Answer? Yes, All right, folks, We're gonna
42:18
wrap this one up right here, and in the next
42:20
episode we'll pick up where we left off. All of
42:24
the information that goes with this episode can be found
42:27
in the description box. What's up, everyone, and welcome back
42:31
to the Epstein Chronicles. We're gonna pick up where we
42:34
left off with the Johanna Schoberg deposition. So let's just
42:39
get right back to it. McCauley, and earlier you testified
42:43
that you don't have any knowledge of what happened behind
42:45
closed doors, but you also said that Jeffrey had told
42:48
you what other girls did for him, and that he
42:50
wanted you to do those things for him. Is it
42:53
fair to say that you knew that other girls were
42:56
performing sexual acts? Answer yes, Menager Objection Foundation and form.
43:03
McCauley and I know you mentioned previously that your relationship
43:07
and interaction with them progressed over time. Did there come
43:10
a time when you were expected to have sexual intercourse
43:13
with Jeffrey? Answer yes, McCauley. And when was that? Answer
43:19
two thousand and five. McCauley. That's it. I just do
43:22
want to also put on the record that were designating
43:25
the testimony as confidential under the protective order. Further examination
43:31
by Missmninger. Menager, Okay, you just testified that you have knowledge,
43:36
You had knowledge that of what Jeffrey was doing behind
43:40
closed doors with other girls. Was that your testimony? Answer
43:44
based on what he had told me? Menager? Okay, So
43:47
Jeffrey told you things that he had done with other girls.
43:50
Answer yes, Manager, you did not observe any of those things.
43:54
Answer no, Manager, you did not talk to any of
43:57
those girls about what they had done with Jeffrey behind
43:59
closed doors. McCauley, objection, Menager correct, answer correct, Menager. The
44:06
only source of knowledge you have is based on what
44:08
Jeffrey told you he had done with other girls. Answer
44:11
correct to this, McCauley. Objects, Menager, you said that there
44:15
were possibly nude photos amongst the other photos that you
44:19
saw on various walls at the Palm Beach House. Correct
44:22
answer correct, Menager, none of them appeared pornographic answer no, Menager.
44:27
You didn't see any fully frontally nude photographs correct answer no,
44:31
not that I recall, Menager. And you don't recall seeing
44:34
any girls that appeared to be underage correct answer no. Manager,
44:39
you said Golaine asked you to take photos of yourself
44:42
for Jeffrey correct answer correct. Menager. Did she ask you
44:46
to take any nude photographs for yourself or just a
44:49
photograph of yourself? Answer a nude photograph of myself? Menager.
44:54
What exactly did she say to you? Answer? I don't
44:57
remember exactly, but I know that I never felt comfortab.
45:01
I would have felt fine taking photos of myself my face,
45:04
but I knew I was never comfortable with it because
45:06
I had to take photos of my body, and I
45:09
also didn't know how to take a photo from standing behind.
45:12
You have to have someone else involved, manager, that's my question.
45:16
How would you take a nude photograph of yourself? Answer exactly,
45:20
someone else would have to do it. Manager. Do you
45:23
recall any of the particulars of what she said to
45:26
you that led you to believe she wanted you to
45:28
do that answer no, just asking for the photos. Manager.
45:33
Do you know when in your time there? Answer it
45:36
was near the beginning, because that's when I was interested
45:39
in the photography. Manager. Was it in the context of
45:43
your discussion of your photography class? Answer? No, Manager, Was
45:48
it in the context of anything? Answer about the camera
45:51
she had bought for me? Manager, What did she say
45:54
in relationship to the camera that she bought for you
45:57
and taking photographs of you? Answer just Jeffrey would like
46:01
to have some photos of me, and she asked me
46:03
to take photos of myself. Manager. What did you say? Answer?
46:07
I don't remember saying no, but I never ended up
46:10
following through. I think I tried once. Manager, this was
46:14
the pret selfie era. Correct answer exactly, Manager, I want
46:19
to go back to this. You testify to two things
46:22
just now with cigarette that you said were implied to you.
46:25
Answer okay, Maxwell. The first one was it would take
46:29
pressure off of Maxwell to have more girls around. Answer right, Manager,
46:34
What exactly did Maxwell say to you that led you
46:37
to believe that was her implication? Answer? She said she
46:40
doesn't have the time or the desire to pleasure him
46:43
as much as he needs, and that's why there were
46:46
other girls around, manager, and did she refer specifically to
46:50
any of the other girls, answer no, Manager. Did she
46:54
talk about underage girls? Answer no, manager. Was she talking
46:59
about massage therapists? Answer not specifically, menager, Okay, there were
47:05
other girls in the house that were not massage therapists.
47:08
Correct answer, yes, menager. Nadia is another person that was around.
47:13
Correct answer, yes, Manager. There were other people she traveled
47:17
with answer uh huh. McCauley objection, manager, correct answer correct, menager.
47:24
Other girls answer yes, manager. Adult answer yes, Manager. When
47:29
I say girl, I really mean woman. Correct answer correct, menager.
47:34
There were other women around who hung out with Jeffrey,
47:37
and you don't know what they did behind closed doors.
47:40
Correct answer correct. Manager. So when you heard the implications
47:45
that she wanted other girls around to take the pressure
47:48
off of her sexually, in your mind, that meant other
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adult women that she had in her life. Correct McAuley.
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Objection witness correct doing what I was expected to do
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in a massage, No, menager, and Galine didn't have anything
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to do with you bringing this woman over for a
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physical workout with Jeffrey. Correct answer correct. Manager. She asked
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you to bring another girl to be to perform massages.
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At the home. Answer yes, Well, she was always asking
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if I knew anyone else, and so I brought this
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one girl that I didn't even know. I worked with
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her at a restaurant, so I didn't care what she
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thought of me if anything happened, and so, but it
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never turned into anything. Manager, she was an adult. Answer
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she was an adult manager working at a restaurant with you.
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Answer yes, manager, what restaurant was that? Answer it's a
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restaurant that's closed. It's called redacted. Menager. You were asked
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about the famous people you said you met Michael Jackson.
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Answer yes, manager, but you did not give him a massage.
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Answer no, Menager, there were other famous people perhaps who
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were around Jeffrey's home that you didn't meet correct answer correct.
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Do you know whether Virginia Roberts has told the truth
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about the age she was when she met Glin Maxwell
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McCauley objection exceeds scope of the cross the witness. I
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don't have any idea what she told them in terms
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of her age. Manager, Do you know if Virginia Roberts
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is telling the truth about whether she spent her sweet
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sixteen birthday with Jeffrey and Glen Maxwell McCauley objection, Schoeberg,
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I don't know anything about that, Menager. Do you know
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whether Virginia Roberts is telling the truth about whether Glenn
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Maxwell sexually assaulted her on her first day on the job.
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McCauley objection, Shoeberg, I have no knowledge of that, menager.
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Do you have any knowledge of whether Virginia is telling
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the truth about Virginia? Excuse me about Glenn Maxwell forcing
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Virginia Roberts to go down on her. McCauley objection, Witness
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no knowledge. Manager, do you have any knowledge about weather?
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Virginia Roberts is telling the truth about whether Glenn Maxwell
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forced her to participate in orgies with other women. MSS
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McCauley object witness no, Manager, do you have any knowledge
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about weather? Virginia Roberts is telling the truth about whether
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Glenn Maxwell directed her to have sex with Prince Andrew
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MSS McCauley objection Witness no, only based on what I've
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read in the media, Manager and Alan Dershowitz. McCauley objection,
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witness the same manager, Prime Ministers. McCauley objection, Shoburg, No, menager,
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do you have any knowledge about weather? Virginia Roberts is
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telling the truth about foreign presidents. Ms. McCauley objection the
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witness no knowledge manager. Do you know whether Virginia Roberts
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is telling the truth about Glenn Maxwell forcing her to
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participate in an orgy with Prince Andrew and other underage
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girls on the island. McCauley objection, witness, no knowledge manager.
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Did Glenn Maxwell ever ask you to have her baby?
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McCauley objection Shoeburg, no menager, No further questions. McCauley, thank
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you for your time. We are done. McCauley. We are
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off the record. Videographer. The time is one to eleven.
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This concludes the video deposition. Off the record, all right, folks,
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So that's going to conclude our look at the Johanna
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Schoberg deposition. And obviously with all the documents that are
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dumping and have been dumped, we have our work cut
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out for us. So, like when you're eating any elephant,
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you just got to eat it one by that at
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a time, and that's what we're going to continue to do.
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We'll continue to add these documents to the catalog so
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that they're available to you all and so that all
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of you have the context that's necessary to understand what
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in the hell happened here and what in the hell
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is still happening here. All Right, folks, that's gonna do
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it for this one. All of the information that goes
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