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Ohio State 34, Illinois 16: 4 Things We Learned From The Buckeyes' Win · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Buckeyes tomorrow morning for Sunday, October twelfth, them
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Speaker 1: joined by Tony gerdaman here in Memorial Stadium in Champagne, Illinois,
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Speaker 1: Buckeyes win thirty four sixteen. It was basically right in
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Speaker 1: line with the score that you and I both predicted.
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Speaker 2: But it felt like Ohio State got.
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Speaker 1: There in a more annoying way for Ohio State fans
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Speaker 1: than we were probably anticipating.
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Speaker 3: I think they got there too early. And then and
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Speaker 3: then like if this would have been a thirty eight
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Speaker 3: thirteen or thirty four or sixteen where each each quarter
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Speaker 3: you're adding seven to ten points, I think you're okay,
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Speaker 3: But when you see what this could you know again,
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Speaker 3: twenty to three at the half, you're over four quarters time.
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Speaker 3: I don't know what that equates to, but it's now
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Speaker 3: thirty four to sixteen, I think. But that's the story
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Speaker 3: of football, where it's like, we're good, the has in
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Speaker 3: the barn, let's just go sit out out of the porch.
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Speaker 1: Well, and this is an Ohio State team that feels
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Speaker 1: like they're kind of working through some stuff right now.
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Speaker 1: I don't mean like emotionally, I mean they're kind of
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Speaker 1: looking at stuff where once the game's kind of in control,
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Speaker 1: Ohio State was never at any point in the second
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Speaker 1: half of this game in even a little bit of
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Speaker 1: danger of losing the game. And this is on the
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Speaker 1: road against the number seventeen team in the country. So
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Speaker 1: that's an achievement. That is an accomplishment. That's the kind
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Speaker 1: of thing you would expect from the number one team
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Speaker 1: in the country. But then they spent the whole second
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Speaker 1: half and really, frankly a lot of the first half
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Speaker 1: because I think they kind of knew you're going to
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Speaker 1: be able to out talent Illinois and it will be okay.
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Speaker 1: But it felt like they spent a whole lot of
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Speaker 1: this stuff sort of working on themselves. It was kind
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Speaker 1: of New Year, New ye, except it was you know,
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Speaker 1: you know, week six, New year kind of thing for
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Speaker 1: Ohio State. They spent so much time running the ball
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Speaker 1: on a day when they really couldn't run the ball.
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Speaker 1: But it felt like they're trying to figure out how
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Speaker 1: can they run the ball because they know they didn't
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Speaker 1: need to do it against Illinois to win, but they're
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Speaker 1: going to in three weeks, two weeks against three weeks
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Speaker 1: against ten State.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, this was is this like watching You'll appreciate this,
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Speaker 3: I'm sure. And an empty parking lot helping a young
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Speaker 3: person learn to drive and they just keep hitting the
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Speaker 3: cones and it's like you gotta turn the wheel more,
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Speaker 3: and are you looking back? Where they're going through some things?
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Speaker 3: As you said, it's a learning process. They're still trying
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Speaker 3: to figure out the best way to run their running backs,
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Speaker 3: what plays that the running backs prefer, what plays the
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Speaker 3: offensive line can handle. But it's is it pretty? When
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Speaker 3: are you're doing that with the empty parking lot? Or
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Speaker 3: always this this is grants?
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Speaker 1: I can I can tell you that my personal experience
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Speaker 1: with my daughter, who is wonderful and has turned into
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Speaker 1: a wonderful driver, the first couple of times we were
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Speaker 1: doing it, I was like, I've been here before and
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Speaker 1: I don't remember these walls being this close to the road, like, boy,
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Speaker 1: this is it's not it's not fun, it's not pretty,
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Speaker 1: but you it's a necessary part of the process, and
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Speaker 1: it's it's a little bit of a benefit to Ohio
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Speaker 1: State to have these games where you're playing a team
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Speaker 1: that you know, we have not We have been very
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Speaker 1: forthright with you all week about the fact that Illinois
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Speaker 1: does not have an incredible defense. But this is a
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Speaker 1: good team on the whole, and you're able to go
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Speaker 1: on the road to a great environment to play a
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Speaker 1: good team and have a game where you you're able
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Speaker 1: to take it and make it. You know, this is
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Speaker 1: a learning experience. This is just we're going to go
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Speaker 1: out there. We're going to get some fresh air, we're
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Speaker 1: going to get some exercise, we're going to figure some
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Speaker 1: stuff out. And you have a rachel freshman quarterback going
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Speaker 1: on the road for the second time ever as a starter.
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Speaker 1: You have a true freshman running back going on the
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Speaker 1: road for the first time for the second time as
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Speaker 1: a starter ever. You've got a true freshman starting at
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Speaker 1: corner because they're your Nickels out and you kick Jermaine
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Speaker 1: Matthews inside to nickel and so Devin Sanchez is starting
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Speaker 1: at corner. These are young guys who have really not
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Speaker 1: experienced this and certainly not experiences on the field, and
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Speaker 1: these are incredible reps. This is the kind of stuff
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Speaker 1: that's going to pay dividends down the road, but it
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Speaker 1: doesn't mean it's fun while it's happening.
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Speaker 3: And one of the positives that Brian did kept going
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Speaker 3: back to is they were successful in their short yarded situations.
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Speaker 3: So that's the thing where that's the more frustrating thing
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Speaker 3: when you're watching it. And we've talked about this before.
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Speaker 3: After games like Brian, the shortyarded situations, you guys were
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Speaker 3: success successful. How frustrating. It's the most it's the worst thing.
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Speaker 3: It's so frustrating. But when you're successful with those, then
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Speaker 3: it's almost like the rest of the running games, like, yeah,
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Speaker 3: but we got the shortyarded stuff down. That's that's the
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Speaker 3: tough part. And there's some truth to that is the
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Speaker 3: tough part of running the ball. So if you can
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Speaker 3: do that, then first and ten should be breeze. Except
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Speaker 3: first and ten for them generally led to second and eight. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know, you look at the stats overall,
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Speaker 1: and the stats overall are not shiny Julian saying nineteen
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Speaker 1: for twenty seven, seventy percent. That's good for most quarterbacks.
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Speaker 1: That's ten percent worse than he has been for the
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Speaker 1: rest of the season. One hundred and sixty six yards,
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Speaker 1: two touchdowns, no picks. You know, seventy percent completions, two touchdowns,
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Speaker 1: no picks. You're going to take that from a first
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Speaker 1: season starting quarterback, Red jert freshman on the road and
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Speaker 1: against the top twenty team. You're going to take that
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Speaker 1: ten times out of ten. And it still feels like, boy,
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Speaker 1: that wasn't you know? It was fine, I guess, but
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Speaker 1: it wasn't particularly shiny. And then the run in the
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Speaker 1: ball and Bo Jackson ten carries forty seven yards four
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Speaker 1: point seven yards per carry.
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Speaker 2: CJ.
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Speaker 1: Donaldson thirteen carries forty four yards three point four yards
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Speaker 1: per carry, but a couple touchdowns. None of these numbers
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Speaker 1: Jeremiah Smith five catches forty two yards, Cardinal Tight four
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Speaker 1: catches forty one yards. Max Clayer four catches thirty eight yards.
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Speaker 1: None of these numbers are anything that's gonna make anyone
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Speaker 1: stand up and go hot dog.
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Speaker 2: What a day they had. But also they.
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Speaker 1: Beat the number seventeen team on the road by eighteen points.
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Speaker 3: I do wonder what percentage of available yards they got
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Speaker 3: because their average starting field position was their own forty five.
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Speaker 3: So while the offense may not have looked great, I
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Speaker 3: wouldn't be shocked if they got a better percentage of
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Speaker 3: available yards than in other games where it didn't seem
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Speaker 3: like it was a problem.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, they.
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Speaker 1: Got the ball down to the Illinois eight on the
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Speaker 1: first drive, scored a touchdown on the second drive, got
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Speaker 1: the ball to their own forty five on the third drive,
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Speaker 1: got the ball the Illinois thirteen on the fourth drive,
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Speaker 1: scored a touchdown on the fifth drive. And that was
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Speaker 1: outside of the drive right before halftime where they were
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Speaker 1: just kind of trying to hustle out and we're out
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Speaker 1: of timeouts. You're getting the ball into the red zone
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Speaker 1: four out of five drives.
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Speaker 2: That's that's not bad.
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Speaker 1: And then they scored touchdowns on their first two drives
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Speaker 1: after that as well.
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Speaker 2: In the second half.
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Speaker 1: So then that's one, two, three, four, five, six of
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Speaker 1: your seven drives. Outside of that, you know, you got
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Speaker 1: the ball at least into the red zone. So yeah,
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Speaker 1: in terms of drive yards, yeah, in terms of points
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Speaker 1: per drive, that's not bad. But then at the end,
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Speaker 1: you know, Illinois, you know, the game ends with two
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Speaker 1: empty drives, two three and outs, and then a kneel
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Speaker 1: down drive, which I'm sure if Ohio State had scored
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Speaker 1: on one more of those and had won by twenty
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Speaker 1: four instead of sixteen, then you know, people would probably
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Speaker 1: feel a little bit different about it too.
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Speaker 3: Tom, I think this is the perfect Big ten twelve
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Speaker 3: pm kickoff because the Ohio State fans not happy, Ohio
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Speaker 3: State coaches not very happy, Illinois coaches certainly not happy.
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Speaker 3: No Illinois fans not happy. Nobody leaves here happy. This
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Speaker 3: is Big ten. Somebody else I think you said it
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Speaker 3: maybe yesterday, and then somebody else set it up up
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Speaker 3: earlier today in the press box like Illinois at twelve
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Speaker 3: pm when the sun is shining is ESPN two all
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Speaker 3: day long, and this was, uh, you know, this is
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Speaker 3: the ESPN two outing where it's like, it's just we're
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Speaker 3: just here to be here so we don't get fined.
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Speaker 2: Well, you're here to sell pickup trucks, is what you're
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Speaker 2: here to do.
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Speaker 1: Because this is I don't remember this happening that much
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Speaker 1: in the past, but you had the touchdown, Oh my god,
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Speaker 1: time out kickoff time out, which was like, my man, like,
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Speaker 1: can we do? Can we What if we sold a
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Speaker 1: few fewer pickup trucks and gave Ohio State and the
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Speaker 1: rest of the Big ten teams like one hundred thousand
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Speaker 1: dollars less this year?
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Speaker 2: What if you just cut one of those and.
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Speaker 1: Would that would Can we can we reach some kind
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Speaker 1: of an agreement on that? It was It was you know,
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Speaker 1: they have turned a lot of the sport over to TV,
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Speaker 1: and that is certainly.
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Speaker 3: There's no reason for this game to last three and
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Speaker 3: a half hours that particular game. Yeah, no, And they
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Speaker 3: went I think it was maybe the first quarter of
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Speaker 3: the second quarter or the third of the fourth. They
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Speaker 3: pulled out the the timeout clock, the TV clock. The
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Speaker 3: guy walks out there and there's a five. The first
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Speaker 3: number was a five. Like what in the world, Because
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Speaker 3: when it's a three, it's like come yeah, yeah, this
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Speaker 3: is a quarter break, so let's just go fall five.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. It was a It was a long one.
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Speaker 1: It was for a game where Ohio State gave up
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Speaker 1: almost twice as many points as they have in any
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Speaker 1: other game this season. They gave up sixteen. Previous high
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Speaker 1: was nine against Ohio It still felt like, the defense
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Speaker 1: played pretty darn well. You know, you're they were without
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Speaker 1: Edward Houston, they were without Lorenzo Styles Junior.
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Speaker 2: They got they got Kenyatta Jackson back.
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Speaker 1: So it was kind of two pieces of bad news,
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Speaker 1: one piece of good news for Ohio State on the defense,
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Speaker 1: and Illinois scored sixteen points. But really Illinois scored. You know,
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Speaker 1: it's like Illinois right now is saying, if only we
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Speaker 1: had you know, if I only had that money I
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Speaker 1: had sent that TV preacher right like, they're saying that
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Speaker 1: because they had three turner voters and had a punt
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Speaker 1: where the punter's knee was down when he took the snap.
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Speaker 2: They found all.
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Speaker 1: Sorts of different ways to screw things up, and Ohio
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Speaker 1: State is saying, well, really, this game was twenty eight
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Speaker 1: to or thirty eight to ten at one point, and
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Speaker 1: you know, the last touchdown was kind of not really meaningful,
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Speaker 1: and also the one before that they scored against the twos,
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Speaker 1: So you know, really, how many points did it?
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Speaker 2: Did we really give up?
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Speaker 1: This is kind of a game where I think this
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Speaker 1: is a good compromise, leaves everyone mad. That was kind
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Speaker 1: of this game.
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Speaker 3: It feels like, yeah, no, I would agree and I
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Speaker 3: have nothing further to say because I'm so angry.
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Speaker 2: Yeah it was.
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Speaker 1: It was an interesting game, probably a little bit of
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Speaker 1: a frustrating game. Before we go, I do want to
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Speaker 1: just we didn't talk about this at all in the
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Speaker 1: postgame show, and probably should have. This is my first
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Speaker 1: time here, and I saw some people in our comments
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Speaker 1: on our pregame show saying, oh, the place is a dump.
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Speaker 1: This place has changed since whenever the last time you
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Speaker 1: were here. Is because this is a phenomenal facility.
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Speaker 2: It is.
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Speaker 1: The way I explained it to someone, my view of
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Speaker 1: it earlier today was this is in terms of a
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Speaker 1: historic football facility that has had been modernized in a
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Speaker 1: great way.
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Speaker 2: This is the right way to do it.
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Speaker 1: The wrong way to do it is about two hours
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Speaker 1: that way in a soldier field where it's like it
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Speaker 1: looks like they dropped the spaceship on it. This is
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Speaker 1: this is a great historic football stadium. But also they've
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Speaker 1: really nailed all the modern amenities. The concourses are nice,
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Speaker 1: the press box is nice. The facility, you know, the
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Speaker 1: football facility. The photo workroom is over there in the
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Speaker 1: football facility. They're still in the middle of upgrading stuff
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Speaker 1: like there's a there's a sign that warns you that
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Speaker 1: you need to wear personal protective equipment if you're going
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Speaker 1: to go into the area where they have the Brett
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Speaker 1: Bielima press conference, and they had that whole thing like
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Speaker 1: walled off and you can kind of.
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Speaker 2: Look in and see where they're doing the work. This
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Speaker 2: is a school that's.
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Speaker 1: Spending a lot of money on football right now, and
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Speaker 1: you know, you talk about that with Indiana and you're
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Speaker 1: seeing the results there. Illinois football has over the years
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Speaker 1: been the equivalent of the dumpy, old you know, stadium
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Speaker 1: that needs to be desperately needs to be updated. They're
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Speaker 1: a ranked team now, they won ten games whatever it
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Speaker 1: was last year, won the Citrus Bowl last year. This
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Speaker 1: is a football program that is doing things the right
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Speaker 1: way and is really trending in the right direction.
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Speaker 3: One of the things that has impressed me the concourses
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Speaker 3: basically are all enclosed now and they're like always the
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Speaker 3: care and the it's not just about the big money donors.
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Speaker 3: It's about everybody's experience here, which is strange, unfamiliar. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: that's that actually matters, at least that's how it appears
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Speaker 3: based on what they done here that they're trying to
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Speaker 3: accommodate everyone. And I guess, you know, that's a nice
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Speaker 3: thing to emulate when whenever we've seen like ross Byorke
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Speaker 3: got on the road and then there's some subtle changes
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Speaker 3: to Ohio States road game things, It's like there are
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Speaker 3: some things here that you could take back with you
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Speaker 3: as well.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, and Ross was here today. I did not
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Speaker 1: get a chance to talk to him. I talked to
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Speaker 1: someone else from the athletic department and said, if you
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Speaker 1: get a chance to talk to Ross the photo you know,
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Speaker 1: the photo facilities here are quite delightful if he's if
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Speaker 1: he's looking for any suggestions, and I know he is.
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Speaker 1: You know this is this is certainly for photography, not
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Speaker 1: for photographers, No, but yeah it was. This is this
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Speaker 1: is one where you look around. There's there's not a
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Speaker 1: lot a lot of times in football history that you
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Speaker 1: would look at Illinois and say, Ohio State could learn
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Speaker 1: some things from Illinois. But some of the upgrades and
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Speaker 1: stuff around here really really well done. So you know,
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Speaker 1: you can add this if you've not been here, you
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Speaker 1: can add this to your list of yeah you should
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Speaker 1: do that at some point.
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Speaker 2: This is not you know, this is not Oregon.
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Speaker 1: Or Washington, but it's you know, this is a nice facility,
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Speaker 1: nice stadium, good good experience here. So they Buckeyes had
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Speaker 1: a good, you know, ish experience here as well with
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Speaker 1: that thirty four to sixteen win. Next week they head
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Speaker 1: on the road to Madison, Wisconsin. We will be there
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Speaker 1: as well for Ohio State and Wisconsin three point thirty
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Speaker 1: kickoff on on CBS next Saturday up in Madison, so
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Speaker 1: we'll be there for that and before that, we'll have
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Speaker 1: all sorts of coverage for you this week with Ryan
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Speaker 1: Day's interviews, player interviews, the usual Ross Fulton scheme breakdowns.
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Speaker 1: We'll have our rewatch of this game as well. Michigan
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Speaker 1: Monday coming up as we'll get a chance to listen
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Speaker 1: to the USC Michigan game on the way home and
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Speaker 1: then watch that again on Sunday and have an update
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Speaker 1: on Michigan which would be a fascinating Michigan game as well.
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Speaker 1: We're really looking forward to that one and then Madison.
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Speaker 1: It is hard to have a good time in Madison, Wisconsin. Sorry,
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Speaker 1: hard to not have a good time in Madison, Wisconsin.
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Speaker 1: So looking forward to that trip. Looking forward to that
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Speaker 1: trip as well. That will do it for today. Thank
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Speaker 1: you guys all for joining us.
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Speaker 2: Have a great day. We'll talk to you tomorrow.