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My husband is FIXATED on his boss’ daughter… she got him fired! | Reddit Stories | EP3114 · ok storytime

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  Speaker 1: Hey, this is Dakota.
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  Speaker 2: And this is Riley, your favorite OK Storytime host. And
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  Speaker 2: we got some great stories coming up.
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  Speaker 3: But before that, we have a quick two-minute break from
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  Speaker 3: the sponsors that keep this show alive. My husband is
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  Speaker 3: obsessed with his boss's daughter and she got him fired.
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  Speaker 2: Did he make a wish for her?
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  Speaker 1: Oh, because of the movie. One wish willow alert.
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  Speaker 3: For some context, I, 29, and my husband, 34, work
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  Speaker 3: for a small garment firm here.
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  Speaker 1: Garment? Garments.
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  Speaker 3: We were both recommended through a relative of mine. I
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  Speaker 3: have been working here for about six years and my
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  Speaker 3: husband about seven.
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  Speaker 1: He's warming it up, folks. Go ahead and give it
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  Speaker 1: to him, Riley. That's the one he gets every week.
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  Speaker 4: That's his one wish willow.
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  Speaker 2: That was so worth that. Oh, my God. So worth it.
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  Speaker 3: During that time, our boss would occasionally bring his then
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  Speaker 3: teenage daughter to work around- Oh, no, no, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 1: No, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. We
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  Speaker 1: have a chance.
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  Speaker 4: 18?
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  Speaker 5: 15-ish.
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  Speaker 2: All bad.
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  Speaker 1: It's still all bad.
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  Speaker 4: That's not good.
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  Speaker 1: No!
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, don't be like, there's still a little bit of
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  Speaker 4: a chance. No.
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  Speaker 1: Wait, wait, wait. We still got a chance. What state
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  Speaker 1: are they in?
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  Speaker 4: What country are they in?
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  Speaker 3: Well, this was when they first met. This was when
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  Speaker 3: they first met. When the boss first brought his daughter around,
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  Speaker 3: she was about 15.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, okay.
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  Speaker 3: And he was showing her what we were doing and
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  Speaker 3: how things work. Fast forward to January of this year.
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  Speaker 3: The boss brought her in officially, letting us know that
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  Speaker 3: she will be taking over a good deal of his work.
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  Speaker 3: We were initially hesitant, considering she was so young, having
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  Speaker 3: turned 20 this year. But ultimately, she wasn't taking over
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  Speaker 3: so much as learning to handle the business. It helped
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  Speaker 3: that she was very keen on cooperating. and taking advice,
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  Speaker 3: often holding meetings to discuss things and making sure she
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  Speaker 3: was the last to leave work almost every time. By
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  Speaker 1: I'm Dakota.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Riley.
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  Speaker 4: I'm Keon.
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  Speaker 3: And we are going to read this story and have
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  Speaker 3: our thoughts and give our advice goofily, but we don't
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  Speaker 3: have all the answers.
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  Speaker 1: We only know what we do, so let us know
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  Speaker 1: what you think in the comments.
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  Speaker 2: It's the dark side of a Hallmark movie.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, no.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, no.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, this is the reject pile, the Hallmark corporate. The
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  Speaker 3: issue started a few months after she began. She would
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  Speaker 3: occasionally hold office events just to lighten the mood. And
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  Speaker 3: this earned her a lot of praise from all of us.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, can't blame her.
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  Speaker 1: Everyone likes a nice little uplifting, how we all doing?
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  Speaker 3: We were all talking about her, so it didn't feel
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  Speaker 3: too weird at first when my husband joined in. How
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  Speaker 3: impressive it is that she's so young but so mature.
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  Speaker 3: How she's been a breath of fresh air in the office.
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  Speaker 3: With hindsight, it seems like that was just his in
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  Speaker 3: on talking about her with me in general. Every now
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  Speaker 3: and then, he'd start singing her praises at home. A
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  Speaker 3: huge talking point always being how she is so mature
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  Speaker 3: for her age.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, wow.
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  Speaker 3: Even pointing out how we weren't that mature at that age.
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  Speaker 4: Guys, why are we reading a scary story in, uh,
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  Speaker 4: not in October right now? This is spooky.
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  Speaker 1: She is 20 now, but he met her when she
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  Speaker 1: was 15. Don't care.
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  Speaker 5: She's disgusting.
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  Speaker 4: Don't care.
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  Speaker 2: He's 26, right?
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  Speaker 1: He's, like, 30.
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  Speaker 5: I think OP was 29.
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  Speaker 1: He's 30-something.
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  Speaker 4: 34.
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  Speaker 1: 34.
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  Speaker 4: Oh.
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  Speaker 1: 34.
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  Speaker 2: That is literally kindergarten to high school.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you've got an entire scholastic career in between you guys. Two.
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  Speaker 1: Two?
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  Speaker 5: Because kindergarten through high school.
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  Speaker 2: That's 12 years. 12 years in community college.
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  Speaker 4: Oh.
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  Speaker 1: Or, wait, kindergarten.
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  Speaker 2: That's 13. Sorry, always get scholastic career. You got held
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  Speaker 2: back one grade.
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  Speaker 1: As is custom and is tradition.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, everyone gets held back in the second grade, right?
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  Speaker 1: I didn't take it.
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  Speaker 4: No.
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  Speaker 2: Preschool oh and preschool sorry we forgot about preschool just
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  Speaker 2: sorry getting the fundamentals down here preschool to senior year
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  Speaker 2: can we agree with that.
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  Speaker 3: It's like uh twilight like uh he said he saw
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  Speaker 3: her when she was a baby and he's like.
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  Speaker 1: One day that will be my wife.
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  Speaker 6: I imprinted on her it's not it's not weird i
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  Speaker 6: just imprinted let me just get it she liked it
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  Speaker 6: what what jacob I didn't take it much to heart
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  Speaker 6: until one time I joked that it was fine if
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  Speaker 6: he was immature at times and that I would love
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  Speaker 6: him regardless.
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  Speaker 3: And his response was, well, I mean, you were too,
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  Speaker 3: unlike her. And this slowly spiraled going from her maturity
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  Speaker 3: to her looks. Once out of insecurity, I asked if
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  Speaker 3: he thought she was prettier than me. And he gave
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  Speaker 3: me a, of course, you're attractive to me. But objectively,
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  Speaker 3: like not considering my attraction to you.
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  Speaker 1: She's prettier.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, this guy's a professional foot.
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  Speaker 1: In his mouth kind of guy.
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  Speaker 4: Two feet.
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  Speaker 1: Oh. He went 10 toes all the way down in
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  Speaker 1: his mouth.
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  Speaker 2: This is just the stuff you think and don't say ever.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: That's the, of course you say, no, you're beautiful. I literally,
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  Speaker 1: every other woman on earth doesn't exist.
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  Speaker 2: Even if you think it, you work on rewiring your
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  Speaker 2: brain so you don't think that way.
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  Speaker 4: I guarantee you. You'd be like, babe, I'm being at
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  Speaker 4: least honest. Honesty is like the best policy.
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  Speaker 2: No, not here.
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  Speaker 1: We work in garments. You work in garments.
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  Speaker 3: We ended up having a fight where I essentially banned
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  Speaker 3: him from bringing her up with me if it wasn't
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  Speaker 3: work related. He also started taking extra work and working overtime.
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  Speaker 4: We need the money. No, we need the money.
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  Speaker 1: So he can start talking about her more. Yeah, I know.
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  Speaker 4: This dude goes up to her and is like, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: how's the weather?
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  Speaker 3: These are all incredibly worrisome signs. While I initially just
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  Speaker 3: thought it was to earn extra money, I later found
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  Speaker 3: out it was simply because He knew she usually heads
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  Speaker 3: home late too after most, if not all, office employees left.
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  Speaker 1: Fast forward to a few days back.
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  Speaker 3: My husband was out with his friends and my laptop
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  Speaker 3: was at the repair shop, so I used his laptop
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  Speaker 3: without permission.
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  Speaker 2: Here we go.
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  Speaker 1: It's always the laptop. It's always the iPad.
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  Speaker 5: Yup.
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  Speaker 3: Yup. We are relatively free with each other's devices, so
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  Speaker 3: I didn't think much of it. I opened his PC folder,
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  Speaker 3: and on the left quick access bar, there was a
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  Speaker 3: folder with our boss's daughter's name. I had to click it,
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  Speaker 3: and when I did, I actively couldn't believe what I
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  Speaker 3: was seeing.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, is it the equivalent of the homework folder?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it is.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I think this is Pizza Hut, like saved on the phone,
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  Speaker 1: you know?
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  Speaker 6: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it's not even Pizza Hut because he just
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  Speaker 3: put boss's daughter's name in a folder.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, this guy was not very slick.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, my God.
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  Speaker 2: Come on. See, if I have you guys on my folder,
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  Speaker 2: it's going to be folder name Painkiller and then folder name.
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  Speaker 4: Spam.
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  Speaker 2: Filipinos.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's y'all's names on there.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, my body's actually been getting a lot better. I
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  Speaker 3: haven't had a headache in a long time.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I just meant because of your last name.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I thought you meant because I'm always hurt.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe you should change your last name.
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  Speaker 2: That could probably help.
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  Speaker 4: Dakota, I'm in pain.
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  Speaker 1: Anyway, OP finds this folder.
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  Speaker 3: It's a folder of over a thousand pictures of Boss's daughter.
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  Speaker 3: Screenshots from Instagram and other apps. Any and every picture
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  Speaker 3: he could find of her. And an insane number of
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  Speaker 3: pictures just taken without her knowing.
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  Speaker 1: Either with a.
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  Speaker 3: hidden camera or his phone at the office. And then
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  Speaker 3: it got worse. <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL>
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  Speaker 3: What do you mean got worse?
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  Speaker 1: Dude, dude. What? A thousand? A thousand.
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  Speaker 2: I'm checking my phone right now. I'm going to see
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  Speaker 2: if I even have a thousand pictures of my girlfriend.
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  Speaker 4: A thousand.
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  Speaker 1: Over a thousand.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 6: All right.
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  Speaker 2: All right. I'm going to my collections. I am looking
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  Speaker 2: up Angie.
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  Speaker 1: I have 2,228 items on my phone of Angie on
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  Speaker 1: my phone. Oh, that's cute.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks.
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  Speaker 4: Aw.
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  Speaker 1: That's diabolical.
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  Speaker 4: You know what? For this guy, straight to jail.
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  Speaker 1: Believe it or not.
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  Speaker 2: Straight to jail.
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  Speaker 1: Straight to jail.
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  Speaker 2: I'm in a relationship. You probably, do you have the,
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  Speaker 2: and we've been together for two years.
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  Speaker 1: I can check.
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  Speaker 2: Let's do a check. Let's do a boyfriend check. Do you,
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  Speaker 2: you know how to look this up?
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  Speaker 4: I don't really do photos, but yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, so go on your photos app.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I'm not, I am not a picture taker.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, you're not?
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  Speaker 1: I think my phone's over there anyway.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, okay, okay.
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  Speaker 1: But it's nowhere near. Over 1,000 is an absurd.
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  Speaker 3: Because you got 2,000 pictures of your girlfriend of two years.
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  Speaker 3: This is his boss's daughter who just started working there
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  Speaker 3: like this year.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I have a terabyte.
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  Speaker 2: On my phone full of my son and my dogs.
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  Speaker 2: I have 14,000 pictures of my boyfriends.
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  Speaker 3: Still?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Stalker, yeah, please tell me they don't have kids. How
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  Speaker 2: does it get worse? I can tell you how it
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  Speaker 2: gets worse.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And you know how it gets worse, too.
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  Speaker 1: I think.
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  Speaker 5: I don't want to know.
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  Speaker 3: There's really a handful of possibilities rattling around in my head.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I got just one.
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  Speaker 1: How many do you have?
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  Speaker 4: I have about, like, 300 photos of Carly.
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  Speaker 1: Just press the more. I think make the worst. Because
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  Speaker 1: it just shows, like.
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  Speaker 2: The one. Do, like, the more? Show more? Do I
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  Speaker 2: need to.
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  Speaker 4: No, no, no, because I have it under her name.
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  Speaker 1: No, no, no, it goes Angie.
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  Speaker 2: And like here, if I do this, Keon, I go Angie, 500,
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  Speaker 2: and I go here to show all at the bottom.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe I don't have that because my phone's older.
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  Speaker 6: Okay.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so around 300.
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  Speaker 4: Around 300. Probably a little bit more.
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  Speaker 2: What do you guys have? Let us know. Oh, no.
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  Speaker 1: It gets worse, folks. It gets worse.
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  Speaker 3: I used search to look up her name and found
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  Speaker 3: something that turned any form of sorrow I would have
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  Speaker 3: felt into pure disgust. He had a folder poorly hidden
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  Speaker 3: deep inside a number of folders full of photoshopped pictures
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  Speaker 3: of her.
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  Speaker 1: Oh no!
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  Speaker 4: Dude, this is bad.
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  Speaker 1: This is straight to jail. Immediate jail. Jail, ocean jail.
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  Speaker 4: Straight to jail.
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  Speaker 3: Some solo, some with him, some with other members of
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  Speaker 3: the office, and some just absolutely vile. I deleted all
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  Speaker 3: traces of me having seen or searched for those, took
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  Speaker 3: a picture of some of what I found- and left
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  Speaker 3: the laptop.
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  Speaker 4: The craziest thing is one so easy to access the
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  Speaker 4: fact that op was like oh folder is named her
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  Speaker 4: and then there's more folders in that folder like it
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  Speaker 4: wasn't hard to like unlock like the treasure chest was already.
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  Speaker 3: Open kind of thing it's like a guy who doesn't
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  Speaker 3: even know how to use this search function he's just
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  Speaker 3: like if i put the folder in seven other folders
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  Speaker 3: it'll be too hard to find and it's like he
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  Speaker 3: named the folder her name it's crazy.
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  Speaker 2: Who do you even talk to first?
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  Speaker 1: The police?
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  Speaker 3: I acted normal that night, and then the next day
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  Speaker 3: I called up my cousin, who was pregnant and whose
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  Speaker 3: husband was away, and asked if.
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  Speaker 1: She needed help.
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  Speaker 3: I used that as an excuse to move in for
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  Speaker 3: a bit. For the last four days, I've been living
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  Speaker 3: with her. I can't stay here forever, but I also
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  Speaker 3: don't think I can just go back home and pretend
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  Speaker 3: that none of this happened.
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  Speaker 1: What should I do? And there's an update.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, dude.
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  Speaker 2: Dude, dude, dude, dude. First off, I got to know,
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  Speaker 2: are garments just like sheets? Like bed sheets and stuff.
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  Speaker 4: I got you, OP.
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  Speaker 1: It was like clothes. Oh, okay, okay.
• 11:21
  Speaker 4: OP, I got you. You know what you do? You
• 11:23
  Speaker 4: get one of these bad boys. You light it up.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 11:26
  Speaker 4: Have that guy deal with him.
• 11:29
  Speaker 1: Actually, no, get the two. Get two of them. He
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  Speaker 1: deserves two Batman rounding him up.
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  Speaker 4: That's crazy.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I would immediately look up if anything he did
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  Speaker 3: is like a felony and against the law.
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  Speaker 1: Like, I don't know. I don't know where to go first. Like,
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  Speaker 1: the police? First, you say, I'm leaving.
• 11:47
  Speaker 2: Instinctually, the first thing is talking to the boss.
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  Speaker 4: Talk to him? I don't know.
• 11:52
  Speaker 2: I don't know who that is.
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  Speaker 4: Honestly, let's be honest.
• 11:54
  Speaker 1: Don't know who that is. Not living near him.
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  Speaker 2: He's gone.
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  Speaker 4: Police won't... What would the police do?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: That's why he's saying find a loophole or something.
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  Speaker 3: It depends on how vile the vileness was. But, like, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, definitely... Shouldn't be around her anymore, ever again, forever.
• 12:12
  Speaker 2: The Lawyer Princess, is this better or worse than A.I.
• 12:15
  Speaker 2: Korn guy?
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  Speaker 4: Probably no. Honestly, I would say no. A.I.
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  Speaker 2: Korn guy was doing it with his family members.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was its whole own mess. But this is equally...
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  Speaker 1: It's disturbing because they met her when she was 15.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So he's been thinking about it.
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  Speaker 3: It would already be gross if she was like just
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  Speaker 3: like the 20 year old daughter. No, I think it's
• 12:37
  Speaker 3: extra gross because it's like you literally knew her when
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  Speaker 3: she was a.
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  Speaker 4: This is worse.
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  Speaker 1: A child.
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  Speaker 4: This is worse because he's taking pictures of her and
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  Speaker 4: videos of her and they weren't like. Yeah. He's obsessed
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  Speaker 4: with her.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Everyone comment right now. What one way ticket are
• 12:52
  Speaker 2: we taking this guy to?
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  Speaker 4: Hadestown.
• 12:55
  Speaker 1: Well, we have an update. Oh, God. A lot happened
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  Speaker 1: in the course of a few hours.
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  Speaker 3: I wanted to wait a few more days, but some
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  Speaker 3: of the comments had me worried that he might get
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  Speaker 3: an idea and delete everything. We ended up going over
• 13:06
  Speaker 3: around 4 p.m., knowing we'd have a few hours before
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  Speaker 3: he gets back. I copied everything in the two folders
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  Speaker 3: to a flash drive and took a video of it
• 13:13
  Speaker 3: being on his laptop, too. Then, as another comment suggested,
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  Speaker 3: we looked for my name, which came up with nothing
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  Speaker 3: but regular pictures.
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  Speaker 2: How does that make you feel, Opie?
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  Speaker 4: This is all bad.
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  Speaker 1: Terrible spike of insecurity.
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  Speaker 3: It's like, well, he didn't make disgusting, vile AI pictures
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  Speaker 3: of me. After that, my friend asked me to look
• 13:32
  Speaker 3: up coworkers' names, and that hit some results.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, no.
• 13:36
  Speaker 3: Four other coworkers, all women, but none to the same
• 13:39
  Speaker 3: extent as the boss's daughter. All the folders were hidden
• 13:43
  Speaker 3: the same way inside eight or nine layers of new folder.
• 13:46
  Speaker 1: We took those, too.
• 13:47
  Speaker 3: Then my friend pointed out that some of these Whoa,
• 13:50
  Speaker 3: it's getting even deeper. So, yeah, not only is he
• 13:51
  Speaker 3: obsessed with the 20-year-old boss's daughter he knew when she
• 13:53
  Speaker 3: was 15, but he's been actively, like, flirting and messaging
• 14:11
  Speaker 3: other women at the office?
• 14:12
  Speaker 4: No, no, no.
• 14:13
  Speaker 2: I think what he's doing is it's a ring. So
• 14:16
  Speaker 2: if these WhatsApp messages are like coming in and like
• 14:20
  Speaker 2: if you save something from like a platform, what it'll
• 14:23
  Speaker 2: be labeled as like a bunch of numbers and then
• 14:25
  Speaker 2: what platform it was saved from.
• 14:26
  Speaker 4: Oh.
• 14:27
  Speaker 2: So my theory is that there's other people at that
• 14:29
  Speaker 2: job also creating these final photos and sending them amongst
• 14:34
  Speaker 2: each other.
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: Because how do you get so many?
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: Oh, God.
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 14:40
  Speaker 4: Oh.
• 14:40
  Speaker 2: We got wood chippers, Dakota's option with the pigs and.
• 14:45
  Speaker 4: Tartarus.
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: Tartarus.
• 14:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, yeah, spaghettified by a black hole, eaten
• 14:49
  Speaker 3: by the pigs and Tartarus, looked over by James Gandolfini's spirit.
• 14:53
  Speaker 4: Remember that?
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is.
• 14:56
  Speaker 3: So I asked my friends if they would stay until
• 14:57
  Speaker 3: my husband got back. They agreed, and I took that
• 15:01
  Speaker 3: time to pack my bags. We waited until he came back.
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: He was surprised to see us, but didn't seem to
• 15:06
  Speaker 3: suspect anything. I think he noticed his laptop on the
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: couch and asked, what was going on? I told him
• 15:12
  Speaker 3: I saw some things related to boss's daughter and that
• 15:15
  Speaker 3: I wanted an explanation. He tried to get angry at first,
• 15:19
  Speaker 3: but quickly dropped that act. He said he was fine talking...
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: but only if my friends waited in another room. I
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: told him, it's fine, and that if they heard any issues,
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: send the drive link to the boss. This was a bluff,
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: but I told him I saved everything on a Google
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: Drive and wouldn't hesitate sending it if he tried anything.
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: He kept asking me exactly what I wanted to know,
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: and it was becoming obvious he was either stalling for
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: an excuse or trying to see how much I knew.
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: I told him finally that I saw the pictures, the
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: hidden camera pictures, and the edits. He pleaded with me
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: not to get mad and to hear him out. He
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: took a minute and told me that he had noticed
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: he was growing more and more attracted to her and
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: that he struggled with these emotions a lot, which is
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: why he did that and why he wanted to release
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: his tension without harming anyone.
• 16:04
  Speaker 5: No, dude.
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: No, dude.
• 16:05
  Speaker 6: No.
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: No.
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: No.
• 16:08
  Speaker 6: No.
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: No. Okay. Personal story. I remember in high school, I
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: would go to this one gas station and there was
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: a very pretty girl there and I had a girlfriend
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: at the time. Guess what I did?
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: Go to that gas station every day?
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: I went to another gas station.
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: Smart. And that's the way you do it, folks.
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: I struggle with these emotions, so I needed to make
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: a reality out of pictures.
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: Out of a thousand plus pictures, more than just that.
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: His argument is this was my healthy way of dealing
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: with these emotions?
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: This is how I cope. Take it or leave it.
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God. What?
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: What?
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: I then asked to see his WhatsApp and the color
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: on his face almost drained.
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: He told me I knew he didn't use WhatsApp.
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: I told him I checked his Google Play to see
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: what apps he had installed, which was another lie, but
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: I was sure he was using it. After a bit,
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: he handed me the phone and told me not to overreact.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: I'm not sure there's a way to do that. That's
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: like one of the top things to do when you're
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: arguing with your partner. Don't overreact. Stay calm.
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: I searched around for a while. It wasn't even on
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: the home screen, but in a folder on the third page.
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: This guy and his folders, dude. He thought that was
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: like the ultimate cyber security play.
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: Dude, I don't want to give this advice. A simple
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: Google search on how to lock a folder would... I
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: can't even give that advice, but that's... Face ID.
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: Thank God this man is too technologically illiterate to hide
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: his disgusting behavior. I opened the app to find one
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: group chat with three other colleagues from his team.
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: Riley was on the money. It was filled with pictures
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: of this girl.
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: Creep shots taken from different areas from that area. Same day.
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: Literally a few minutes before he handed me the phone.
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: A lot of it was about wanting to sleep with
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: her as a kind of revenge on the boss. And
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: scrolling up, it kept getting worse. Yeah, I think at
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: this point, maybe all of those guys need to go
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: to jail. Yeah, I think, oh, I was just trying
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: to do something so I wouldn't hurt anybody. Straight to jail.
• 18:17
  Speaker 6: Jail.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: I believe it. I believe it with my whole heart.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: You know what you do?
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: Sorry, I didn't want to interrupt. Release the files.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: Release the files.
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: Or just release who's looking at the files.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you honestly need to. You need to.
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: You know who I feel the worst for, though? The boss. Really?
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: Really?
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: I was going to say the daughter.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, of course. I would feel.
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: No, no, no.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: I mean, yes, the daughter is up there, but I
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: feel bad for the boss because this is a guy
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: that cares for his daughter because he was like, I'm
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: going to take my daughter under my wing and show
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: her the business. I want her to stay late. I
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: want her to see what good hard working is. And
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: then over that course of time, he's going to teach
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: her Oh, I'm going to show you like how to
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: manage a team, how to work with people, all these things.
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: And she's already taken initiative on this. I'm going to
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: go in a little soapbox. I'm sorry. She's already taken
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: initiative on this and done like fun parties to like
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: keep the vibe alive, you know, interact with people being
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: very nice and sweet. And then he allowed these three
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: creeps to be around her and had no idea.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: He had no idea. He had a cabal of creeps.
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: And he was trying to keep working at his garment industry.
• 19:19
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: And he was trying to keep a safe place for her?
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: It's those closest to you.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: Oh, dude, I'd feel so, so incredibly mad if.
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: I was my dad. I think we have to tell
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: the boss.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: Oh, absolutely.
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: But we have to do it in a very delicate way, right? Like,
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: there's no way, like, hey, here's what's going on kind
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: of thing, and here are all the, yeah, like.
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: No, I think you do exactly that. I think you
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: need to go to your boss and be like, you
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: need to sit down, because what I'm about to tell
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: you is going to really suck.
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: There should be a lot of changes going on And
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: you're not going to, I don't know how you're going
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: to feel, but it's really bad.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: So prepare yourself.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: 20 exactly cowboys.
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: He kept apologizing and telling me he loved me and
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: that this was all just to keep himself in control.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: A thousand photos. This is control?
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: What's uncontrol?
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: And that it was ultimately just harmless fantasizing.
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: I only caught bits and pieces of what he was
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: saying before turning on the screen recorder and scrolling. The
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: conversation predated my husband joining, it seemed, but he was
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: very actively taking part in it. I got a good
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: chunk of it, but it didn't seem to end, so
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: I went to the chat media and And even that
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: was a huge scroll of pictures. I sent as much
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: as I could to myself, making sure it's saved on
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: my phone. All the while, he kept begging me to
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: forgive him and not ruin his life and career.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: Sorry, I quote. our lives and careers.
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: I told him I felt betrayed and that I was
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: disgusted at the man he was.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: He kept insisting it didn't really hurt anyone.
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: I told him it hurt me and that if she
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: found out, it would hurt her too. And he pleaded
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: with me not to tell her. After a while, I
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: told him that I don't see myself staying with him
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: and that I want a divorce. He pleaded with me
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: not to. I then told him that I wanted to
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: take the laptop and he froze. He begged me not
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: to show this to the boss or the daughter. I
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: told him I wasn't sure if I wanted to do that,
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: which was a lie. I told him not to delete
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: the WhatsApp conversations or tell the others, and that if
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: he did, I would send everything to the boss.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: Ultimately, I want to talk to the daughter.
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: First and then decide how to tell the father.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: We left with his laptop.
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: I do hope he doesn't alert his friends, but even
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: if he did, it wouldn't matter since the screen recording
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: has their names and numbers. Since nothing physical happened, I
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: know the police won't take it seriously most of the
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: time unless the girl herself takes action. So I intend
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: to give her all of what I have and let
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: her proceed however she chooses. A few things I did
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: want to specify. Some people thought she was a minor.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: She isn't.
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: She's 20 as of this year. And as she's directly involved,
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: I think it's only fair to tell her And I
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: would let her decide who she wants to share these with.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: Am I worried about my job?
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, a bit. Because my husband and I were both
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: recommended by my relative and because I will technically be
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: the ex-wife of the guy who stalked her to her
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: and her boss. But regardless, I think it's still the
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: right decision to make. There's a second update.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: Okay, so my personal belief, the way I was raised,
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: this verse, that looking at someone with lustful intent means
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: you have already committed adultery with them.
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: I mean, that's his whole deal is he was like, oh,
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: my gosh, I'm looking at this this 20 year old
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: girl and I'm.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: Like, wow. Oh, wow.
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: And instead of being like, maybe I should work through
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: that in like a healthy and productive way with my wife.
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: He's like, let me actually become a cyber criminal, like
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: a conspiracy.
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: He said this was to keep me in control. disgusting
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: a thousand plus photos.
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: And more yeah i don't know i don't know in
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: control how do you i don't even know how you
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: could stay in the same room with that guy talk.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: To him i couldn't that's not i don't know who
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: that is straight to jail yeah oh my god where
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: does he find the free time to do that i
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: don't understand what upsets me because we've read some stories
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: like this and it seems that it's just who we
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: know it's just what comes to light we don't even
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: know what's in the dark.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah it's uh It's a freaky thing, the dark. We
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: have a second update.
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: Six days later, I ended up going to the boss's daughter.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: I showed her everything I had and told her I
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: had the laptop too if she needed it. I could
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: tell it was a good bit for her to process initially,
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: but she said she's used to stuff like this and
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: composed herself.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: Wait, what? Yeah, just as a young, hot individual. She's
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: used to people being creepy.
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: I don't know about stuff like that extent, but I
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: think she's also saying that just to, you know, not
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: freak out, I guess.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: Afterwards, she asked if I.
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: Would help her go through the screenshots, screen recordings, and
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: pictures since she'd rather not check the details herself.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: And I agreed.
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: We sat at a local food chain and wrote out
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: a detailed HR report about that team. She assured me
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: that I won't be facing any consequences and to leave
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: talking to her father to her. She asked if I
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: would be willing to go to the police station if called,
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: and I said I would. She concluded that chances are
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: this won't do much, maybe a few days worth of jail,
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: but that she would still be going to the police
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: so that if they ever considered doing something, this could
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: be used against them. As for their job, she said
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: she would keep them on for a few days while
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: their reports worked their way up and then fire them
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: on the spot with no reference or experience certificate. And
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: should they try... Future hirers will be sent the HR
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: report we built. After that, I spoke to a lawyer
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: and showed him everything. It's not like my husband and
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: I have that much joint property, so there wouldn't be
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: much of a dirty breakup financially. So far, at least,
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: things seem to be going in my favor. My husband
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: did call a few times and text to see if
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: I would reconsider, but I blocked him. That's the most
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: insane thing. part to me almost, that those kind of guys,
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: when they get caught, instead of just like eating it
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: and just being like, yeah.
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: No, you're right.
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: This is disgusting and you found it. There's nothing I
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: can do or say. It's like there's a reason I
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: kept it hidden. I'm the worst.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: It's just like, well, don't overreact.
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: Are you sure you want to do this?
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: Maybe we can work it out.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: Reconsider.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: Unbelievable. Unbelievable.
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: Think of us. Think of us. Think of our future.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: Think of the life we've built.
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah.
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: So after I blocked him, that's where the crap storm started.
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: Calls and messages from relatives all letting me know that
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: these things happen and that I shouldn't hold it against him.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: I would love to know what he told them.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: What's the real story here? What did you say to them?
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: I talked to my mother.
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: And found out that what he told her and a
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: few other relatives was that I got jealous because he
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: accidentally showed interest in the boss's daughter but never planned
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: to act on it.
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: This guy just loves to dig a hole.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: He just can't stop lying. What does he think is
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: going to happen?
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: What you're doing is you're giving people paper cuts and
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: she's about to put a.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: Nuke on you. Yeah.
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: Coughing baby.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: Coughing baby versus nuclear bomb. Yeah. This caused almost everyone
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: to side with him.
• 26:22
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: Wait until you show them the evidence.
• 26:24
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: I ended up telling my mother and his parents the truth.
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: My mother told me it's not like he acted on
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: it and that this is nothing to ruin a marriage over.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: I think we need to sit her down and show
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: her some of the pictures then.
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: She brought up family reputation and the embarrassment of me
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: being a divorcee in my 30s.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: Mom's out of touch. That's super in vogue right now.
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: We ended the call on pretty bad terms and the
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: family is more or less on the same stance.
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: That's crazy.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: That's absurd. That's absurd.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: Usually with news, whoever says it first or whoever gets
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: delivered it first, that's what you go with. That's the
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: narrative you take.
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but this is like OP's own family doing this.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: This is OP's family.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: Well, the husband's a part of her family, though, too,
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: at this point.
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: The pleasant surprise came from telling his parents who took
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: my side. His mother apologized to me, telling me she
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: was ashamed of what her son did, while his father
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: told me he will make sure my husband won't be
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: causing any issues for me in the divorce or in general.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: And we are coming up on the end of this story.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Calbot is God. Show them the truth. Leverence is
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: with this man. Opie's mom is a pygmy.
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know.
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: If your mom really reacted like that, I would be like, okay,
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: what happened in your marriage that you've put up with?
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: Because if you're saying that this is nothing to ruin
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: a marriage over, like, where are the bodies buried?
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: Like, what are you doing?
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the fact that she's like, it's embarrassing to be
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: a divorcee in your 30s.
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: It's like, I think it's more embarrassing to be married
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: to the guy who takes a thousand secret pictures of
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: a 20-year-old woman he works with.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: That's the most embarrassing, actually.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: Shoot, man.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: This is wild. Oh, God.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: I'm just thinking of the jobs this guy will be
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: working at. And it's probably going to be any job
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: that has no women in it. So he can maybe
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: go work at a rig.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: Ditch digger.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: Ditch digger. Trash.
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: I mean, this guy is great at digging holes. So
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: maybe that's his real calling.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: He should just be the movie holes.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know how much money you make in
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: the garments industry, but it's definitely going to be significantly
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: more or less now.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: This man deserves nothing ever again. This is insane.
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: Yesterday, the team were called into the boss's office along
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: with some police. I don't know what was said, but
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: they were in there for a long time. And by
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: the time they left, they just looked defeated, especially my husband.
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: It seems she did exactly what she said she'd do
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: and fired them.
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: Your husband's like, you betrayed me. You said you wouldn't
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: do it.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: As for me, it's been rough. I get to keep
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: my job, which is huge.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: I guess the garments do make a lot of money.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: The garments must go round.
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: The whole thing with family isn't getting much better and
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: it got a bit worse after the firing. I have
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: moved in with a friend while I look for a
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: smaller apartment. As for my husband, I assume he'll be
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: moving in with his parents. The apartment we stayed in
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: was something we both contributed to. So without income, I
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: can't see him maintaining it at all. Honestly, it's probably it.
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: And that is, that's the end of that story.
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: I can check.
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: Yes, please, please.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: Honestly, if I did this and I went back to
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: my parents, they would not let me live there.
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: I think they'd like, yeah, you'd be in jail. They'd
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: like lock you in the basement. Say, go, you got
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: a tent.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: Here's a tent.
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah. They'd set you up with the. urban explorer setup. Yeah.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: I don't know, man.
• 29:43
  Speaker 6: Crazy.
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah. This is, oh, Jen Thompson's bringing up the definition
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: of limerence. Limerence is an involuntary, obsessive state of romantic
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: infatuation with another person.
• 29:53
  Speaker 6: Oh.
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: Gotta say, given the things that were being said in
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: the chat and stuff about, like, it's like payback on
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: the boss, I don't think it was a romantic infatuation.
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: I think it was a disgusting physical obsession with this
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: woman who was young and hot.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: And, yeah, all of those people.
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: All those people involved in that should just be sent somewhere.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: I don't even know, man. Not even, like, put them
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: on the island.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: Special place in.
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the one island?
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's one island I know is not currently being used.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: Send him to that one.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: The Three Mile Island? The one with the nuclear explosion?
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what? Send him there. Send him there.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: Give him some good radiation.
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: No update, unfortunately.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: My wife doesn't want me involved in our kids' lives,
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: and I don't know what to do.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: Take the children. No, don't do that. Don't do that.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: So, for some context, my wife and I, both 29
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: years old, are fairly religious Christians. But, She and her
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: family take it more seriously than I do. Put your
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: guesses on what denomination they are now. Before we married,
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: we discussed that she wants a traditional marriage where she
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: is a stay-at-home mom. I would be fine with her working,
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: but I do believe a man should be a provider,
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: so this is fine with me to do. And that's
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: what we've done. She said she didn't like modern men
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: who do things like wear a baby sling or push
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: a stroller. And I said I was fine with that.
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: I don't like modern men who take care of their
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: children when they're babies.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: Dude.
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: What is pushing the stroller?
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: My dad was so upset whenever Ryder was too big
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: to fit in the sling that he carries around because
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: it felt like a big giant with a little baby.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: He's like, oh, I was.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: So upset when he couldn't fit.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: That's a cool aesthetic. Hey, it's Dakota, your favorite good
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: time boy host here.
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: We're going to get back to the stories, but here's
• 31:47
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• 31:50
  Speaker 2: Our first child was born a bit over four years ago,
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: and then a second a little under two years later.
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: When our kids were young, I admittedly did not help
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: much with them very much of the time. She had
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: a lot of help from both her mom and mine,
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: and I was also working long hours in those days.
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: And let's not forget, she told you she doesn't like that,
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: I guess.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, at the top, yeah. So I never changed a
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: diaper and maybe fed them a couple of times. If
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: I tried to step in, she would generally wave me
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: off and say I shouldn't worry about it. So I didn't.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: Her mom actually lived with us until my youngest was
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: about six months old and still visits fairly often. Her
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: sister sometimes comes over to help too. So she definitely
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: has her village, so to speak of. But now that
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: the kids are getting older and I'm working less, making
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: more money, and I want to be involved more. But
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: it's like she doesn't want me to do anything for
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: them ever.
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: What religion do you... Like, yeah, I know they said Christian,
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: but like what religion is just like fathers don't do
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: a thing with the kids.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Don't even talk to them. Don't even
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: look at them. That's like lion religion.
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: Well, I can say she's taking her job seriously. I guess, but. No,
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: with Christians, what happens is you have what the Bible
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: says and then what the people that go to church say.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: And most of the time people listen to this rather
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: than what the Bible says.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: A good church is a good book club.
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: Well, the Bible does say some interesting things about the
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: thing I always get is the thread mixing. It's like
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: you can't wear clothes that have like a mixture of
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: different like.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: Is that in the Old Testament?
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure.
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: But it's like, yeah, it's like if you if you
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: wear something with like cotton and like hemp, it's like sin.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: You're on the team of the devil.
• 33:38
  Speaker 6: Oh, I would.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: Sometimes like also in the Bible and the old Testament
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: is like, you have to wash your hands before you eat.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: It's just like smart.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah. But like, it was like sort of like smart sense.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: And they were like, don't eat pork.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: It was cause like, Oh, you don't have the equipment
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: to cook pork to the correct temperature. Thus it's going
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: to be dirty and you could get sick. That's sort
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: of like what the old Testament was. So I'd be
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: curious to know if that's a new Testament.
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: I just, I'm wondering what she's hung up on.
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: It gives her this idea that it's like, You're a man.
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: You shouldn't love your children or want to help take
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: care of them.
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: I see you. Do we think that's because she pointing
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: like their reasoning to religion or her childhood? Like her
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: dad was never there.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: I just got a crazy idea.
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah.
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: What if it's because they're not his kids and he
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: doesn't want him to like notice.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: Do you have a crazy couple and the kids have
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: been mixed this whole time?
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: He's under the blanket.
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: He's napping.
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: Don't look at him!
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: Keon, I do believe that, though. The love that you
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: see from your parents is the love that you'll have
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: in your relationship. Also, real quick, Amelia, this is a
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: perfect example. This is how I grew up, Amelia says.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: I am a stay-at-home mom, and from time to time,
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: I ask my husband to help, even after working a
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: long workday. I'm Lutheran, so is my husband. He's actually
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: non-denominational in faith, but otherwise, he's a Christian. That's usually
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: how it works out.
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: That's how it should, yeah. I mean, I went to
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: Catholic school all my life, and then Everyone seemed okay. Yeah,
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: for the most part.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: She always brushes me off and says that's a woman's
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: job and I shouldn't be doing that. And even say
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: that our kids shouldn't see a man picking up dirty
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: laundry or making them snacks.
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: What year are we in? What year is this?
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: Any other man this woman was married to? See, no
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: problem here.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: No, I don't. I reject that take.
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: No, no, no. Some of the scumbag dudes that we
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: read about.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: Oh, yes. That's what I meant.
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: Some of the guys we've read about, I thought you
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: were being like, yeah, any other guy would be like, sick.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, what?
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because 50% of men are scumbags.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: No, but yeah, like literally.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: Statistically, one of us might be.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: I'll take it. We're the cream of the top.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: No, don't take it.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: I'll take it.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: Don't take it.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: For the team.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: You're putting poison on us. And yourself.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: To the team.
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, no. No, you're not.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: You're not.
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: We understand women's emotions and we help. We're helping women
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: right now.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: We're women doctors.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: Entertainment.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: Any woman doctor can make a woman doctor.
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: That's right. My parents have a traditional marriage, but my
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: dad still did stuff from that time to time and
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: I turned out fine. If she sees me playing with him,
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: she usually doesn't look happy and tries to distract them
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: from it after a little while. By the way, this
• 36:17
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• 36:23
  Speaker 2: I'm Riley.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: I'm Dakota.
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: I'm Keon.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: And we're here to read this goofily. And if you
• 36:27
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• 36:29
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• 36:31
  Speaker 2: We would love to read them.
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: My favorite memory of church was when I was like
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: 13 and everyone in the church.
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: Class had a Bible fight. Yeah, we were all idiots.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. Sounds like Methodist.
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like we were just chill. We weren't taking
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: it that seriously.
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: It all came to a final straw the other day
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: when I had a day off of work. I secretly
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: turned off her alarm in the night so she could
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: sleep in that morning. I woke up early, bought her
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: some flowers, and made the kids breakfast. And there was
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: some for her too when she woke up.
• 37:02
  Speaker 5: Oh man.
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: Is she going to be pissed?
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: She's going to be like, I told you I hate
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: my steak when it's too juicy.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to lie. We haven't had spicy sleep
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: in a while either. And that's part of my thinking here.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: But I thought it would be a nice thing to
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: do for her in a nice morning we spend with
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: the kids. And it was. I thought maybe... We could
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: all go to the park later since it was just
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: a nice day. My wife ended up waking up around
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: 7 a.m., normally 5.30 or 6 for her, and came
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: down to see what was going on. I could see
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: that she was hiding her anger for the kids. She smiled,
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: said that, isn't that a nice thing daddy did? But
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: the look she gave me was gnarly.
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: Oh, you got to say that in like a very snarky,
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: sarcastic tone.
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: But the look she gave me was glaring. Then she
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: said to my four-year-old son, Why don't you take your
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: sister to watch TV? When they went to the next room,
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: she started whisperingly angry at me. What the heck were
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: you thinking? Why would you do something like that? Why
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: would you let me sleep in? Do you think I'm
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: a bad mother?
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: Oh my gosh. What?
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: There's a lot going on under the surface here, isn't there?
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: I reiterated, do you think I'm a bad father? Why
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: do you never want me to do anything with the kids?
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: She flat out denied it and said that's not true.
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: She just doesn't want me overstepping on taking women's work.
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: This dude, dude, she, this woman's brain needs to be changed. You,
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: you making breakfast for everyone all breakfast. Heck breaks loose.
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: It's like, what are you going to do? Make me
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: go on a crusade? Like, do I have to fight
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: the neighbor with a sword? Like, what do you want?
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: What is the men's job here?
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: Just make the money?
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: Never look at the kids. Go off to war. Yeah,
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: men used to go to war.
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: Used to go to war. You should be in the
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: Air Force right now or the Army. Women's work.
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: It's like, you're not getting paid for this. This isn't
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: the 70%, you know, percent gap, okay?
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: Dude. This is being a parent.
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: I would, I blame her parents, Awesome Ashley says. That's
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: absolutely what I was about to say.
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: I'm thinking this is what she did when she was raised.
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: Something clearly was going on in her childhood to make
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: her think no man should have anything to do with
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: any children.
• 39:15
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: Little house on the prairie type vibes what's happening.
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: Here no even then little house on the prairie type
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: vibes at least like the men would be allowed to
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: do stuff too this is some crazy stuff do Guys,
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: do you think she'd be like, women voting? Bad.
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, she's probably like, I would accept having the right
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: to vote taken away.
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: I do have a family member that says she wishes
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: women didn't have rights because she said, because I have
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: to work. And if we didn't have rides, we wouldn't
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: have to work. And I would be at home all
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: day and I wouldn't have to work.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: Galaxy brain to take. I was like, I see your point.
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: She's like, we had it made back in the day.
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: We could just hang around at home and do nothing
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: because we weren't allowed to do anything.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: That was honestly a wild take because she's like a–
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: I have amazing women in my life that are like
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: very strong women that do awesome things. She was one
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: of them. And I was like, what? What am I
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: listening to right now?
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: She's like, yeah, I wish I didn't have to do
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: anything cool.
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: Anyways, it's setting a bad example and I'm acting woke.
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: All these liberal– Fathers taking care of their kids.
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: Cooking them breakfast.
• 40:28
  Speaker 5: Letting them sleep in.
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: Liberal fathers making them kids matchas and making them eat tofu.
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: Sons of bitches, I can't stand them.
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: Computer, is loving your children part of the woke agenda?
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: And all these other things.
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: She keeps getting, whoa, whoa, dude.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: She's next door, down the street from me. Holy cow.
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: So I asked her, what did she think it's okay
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: for me to do? and to do with the kids.
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: She kind of stopped for a second, like she didn't
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: really have an answer. Then she said, it's a father's
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: job to be a provider and a disciplinarian. I was like,
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: that's it? You think I'm here to make a paycheck
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: and yell at them if they do something bad? And
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: she got upset and said, no, it's just not my
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: job to take over a mother's role. And it makes
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: me less of a man and her less of a woman.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: Okay, so then it's equal.
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: If I'm less of a man, you're less of a woman,
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: then we can both be like genderless blobs together and
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: raise our children.
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: Ooh, Dakota, that wasn't the right answer. She doesn't like that.
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: Dude, I don't know. With people like this, bro, they're
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: on one of the pendulum. If you let that pendulum swing, bro,
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: he's getting pegged the next day.
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: And that's part of the woke agenda. She's fighting the
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: urge to peg her husband.
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: That's what everyone thinks is this pendulum has so much
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: potential energy that once you make it kinetic, they're just
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: going to go on the other side.
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: I mean, like... We're going to be.
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: One of us is going to transition. We're both going
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: to be dads taking care of these kids. And then
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: we're going to have to send them off and make
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: them learn all these other languages.
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: It's opening Pandora's box, yeah.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 42:04
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: My question is, did this just get worse?
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: Did you not recognize that your wife was this level
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: of polarized?
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: It's like she wants to be a servant. Am I
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: wrong to say that her mindset is like, I have
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: to serve. I have to be a servant.
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: No, I feel like it goes more to she thinks
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: that her husband is weak for wanting to parent his children.
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I do think so too. But honestly, I wouldn't
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: go into soapbox. But honestly, what I would do is
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: be like, okay, well, Jesus, the guy that we both
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: are big fans.
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: Of, he taught the children.
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: He sat with the children and played with them and
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: taught them lessons.
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: She'll be like, Jesus had long hair, so it doesn't count.
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: Jesus washed people's feets. Can't do that these days.
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: Jesus was a carpenter, so he had a man's job,
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: and that makes up for his womanly attitudes.
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: At this point, we were both starting to raise our
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: voices and I looked up to the next room and said,
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: can we please try to calm down? We don't need
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: to scare the kids. Can you honestly explain to me
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: why that's a problem for a father to make his
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: kids breakfast and buy his wife flowers? But she just
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: got more upset and said, if I didn't understand that
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: I'm not the man she married, I'm not godly. I
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: gave up and went out for the rest of the day,
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: walking around the mall and doing some errands. I came
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: home and the kids were in bed and she didn't
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: speak to me. I slept in the guest bedroom. It's
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: been a couple of days now and we haven't talked.
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: Am I overreacting to this? Should I try to find
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: some compromise with her or what?
• 43:38
  Speaker 4: Good luck. That's all I got to say.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: Here's what you do. You become a caveman.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: Ooga booga.
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: Ooga booga. I need to go hunt today.
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: I can't see kids. Stop showering.
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: Wear a loincloth. Let your primal self shine through.
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: Eat raw meat.
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: Raw, raw meat.
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: That's the that's what they don't want you to know
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: is that the raw meat is what makes you a man.
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Eating as much raw meat as you can.
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: My honest take here outside of just clearly immediately like
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: this is a divorce situation because she's like, you're not
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: allowed to take care and love your own children, which
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: is like I'd rather have split custody and be able
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: to be a dad than stay here.
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: And I think.
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: If you did a, you know, church sponsored therapy.
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there we go.
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: And then you got the leader of the church being like, yeah, no,
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: he's allowed to be a dad.
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: There we go. That's my thoughts exactly.
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: But here's the problem, though.
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: Here's the problem with that, though. Some churches reinforce what
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: she's thinking.
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what church are we at?
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: Because here's the problem. It needs to be a church
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: she's on board with. And if she's not on board
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: with it, she ain't going to listen to it. And
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: then she's going to be like, you're just getting more
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: woke and da-da-da-da. Some people that have these mindsets are
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: so dangerous that it's incomprehensible. And they'll just keep doubling
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: down because they think that that's the right thing. And
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: if they deny... what they're thinking, they're denying Jesus. And
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: then like, they're going to go to the bad place.
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: Isn't that crazy?
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: Then they can't critically think and actually read. I go
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: all day about this.
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: I think it's leaning towards a divorce situation.
• 45:14
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: I mean, if you can't, I mean, if this is
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: a thing that's been the same this whole time and
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: now it's just manifested in the context of your kids, like,
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: I don't know if there's any fixing it, but if
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: it's a thing where it's like, it just got like
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: way more extreme recently.
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah. Try to get, try to get
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: it here from someone who will listen.
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: Well, here's someone from Reddit. Hey, this is Riley, your
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: favorite Southern belle. We're going to get back to these stories,
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: but here's three minutes worth of ads from our sponsors.
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: Both Feet Off.
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: The Ground says, This is the strangest thing I've heard.
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: Not to me. You sound like a dream husband. I
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: wish I could have a day to sleep in. Moms
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: are humans and deserve time off and personal time, and
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: kids need to see men doing chores.
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: Oh, why do you think about that?
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: Think about these kids not seeing a man do a chore,
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: and then they get married.
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And then they become little taskmasters.
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: Hopey says, I hope I didn't make myself come off
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: as a saint, because I'm definitely not. But I wanted
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: to do something nice for my wife and kids, which
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: I rarely have time to do. And to be cut
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: back like this over it was very hurtful. JuliaX1984 says,
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: Just tell her that trying to tell her husband what
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: to do isn't godly.
• 46:22
  Speaker 6: Yeah!
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: Quote Paul's verses about how women should be quiet and
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: never talk back to men. If she objects, she's not godly.
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: Oh God. And Obie says, to be exact, those verses
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: didn't say a woman shouldn't be able to preach in church.
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: She seems to think the woman is queen.
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: Of the house.
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: My words, not hers. Crackpot Pory says, y'all needs couples
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: therapy at a minimum, but I'm guessing she won't think
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: that's very godly. Obie says, I'm definitely going to try
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: and get her to see our pastor for counseling. Okay,
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: good step, good step. I don't think there's any way
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: she can disagree to that and claim to not be
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: a hypocrite. I would never tell my wife to shut
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: her mouth and do as I say. I'm the leader
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: of the house, but that does not make her my slave.
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: Kami Blue says, make an appointment with your pastor and
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: see what the religion you follow says about all of
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: this nonsense. She has some issues and trust issues for sure.
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: Was she ever mistreated by a man? Obie says, I
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: think her father was a bit of an a-hole, but
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: he passed away 15 years or so ago, so I
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: don't know firsthand. I would definitely be making an appointment.
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: Their pastor.
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: Update.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: It seems like he trusts the pastor.
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: I think, again, what my first ICU is, because Opie
• 47:33
  Speaker 4: said a bit of an a-hole, probably more than that.
• 47:36
  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: From what he can see?
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: I would love to just be a fly on the
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: wall when you quote the Paul verses back to her
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: about how she has to.
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: Listen to her husband. I would love to just witness that. Ooh.
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: Bring that up in the counseling session.
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: Be like, yeah, it really, I'm worried my wife is
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: unfamiliar with the Book of Paul.
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: Paul Atreides?
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: Paul Atreides.
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Dune. The Dune.
• 48:02
  Speaker 5: Lisan Al-Gaib.
• 48:04
  Speaker 4: Lisan Al-Gaib.
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: Lisan Al-Gaib. Yep.
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: Book of Lisan Al-Gaib.
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: Dude, this is crazy. Hopefully, I just want to know
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: what she says.
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: Oh, he says, unfortunately, things have taken a turn for
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: the worst.
• 48:18
  Speaker 4: Color all of us shocked.
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: What?
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: A lot of things have happened since my last post.
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: I told my wife I wanted to go to counseling
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: with our pastor. She immediately agreed, and I could tell
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: she thought he would agree with her on this issue.
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: That's why you'll do it.
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: That's why she agreed.
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: It's like, yes, we have to cure you.
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: Dude, no one wants to go to.
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: A counseling session and get told what they're doing is wrong.
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: They're wrong, yeah.
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: She really thought that they were going to go to
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: this counseling session, and the pastor was going to put
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: a helmet on him, give him some armor- and be like,
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: you need to go take back Jerusalem. You're on a
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: crusade now. Your time has come, yeah. It's a crusade now.
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: It's crusade time.
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: Your time has come.
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: Oh, that would be hilarious. The counseling appointment did not
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: go as she expected. When we got there, he let
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: us both say our piece at first. She said in
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: sum that I was trying to usurp our godly roles
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: as a man and wife. She did not get into
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: the detailed specifics about the kids. I say I was
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: trying to be a better father. and husband and that
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: my wife seemed to have a problem with me interacting
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: with my children he asked me some pretty pointed questions
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: about myself as a husband am i working hard and
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: providing yes am i cheating drinking gambling no do i
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: yell scream swear break things do i hit her or
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: the kids no.
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: In fact it's like She kind of wants me to
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: do more of that. She wants more yelling and screaming
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: and discipline from me.
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: Do I stay out all night? Do I run away
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: on fishing trips? None of that. At this point, he's
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: looking at my wife and asked her if she has
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: anything to add. She says, not really. I put in
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: that I think I'm upholding my marital covenants as a
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: man and a provider. The pastor didn't say anything about that,
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: but kept talking to my wife. He started to get
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: some real concrete details out of her. She reaffirmed. This
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: is not a situation of mistreatment or cheating. She said
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: it was effeminate for me to do women's chores and
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: pick up after our kids, make the meals, and so on.
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: Not biblical. Dude, if this was my wife, I would
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: be pulling so many verses to show her how backwards
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: this is.
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like she's an Old Testament kind of girly,
• 50:26
  Speaker 4: not a New Testament kind of girly.
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: She's an Old Testament ankle skirt. She's in a hoop skirt.
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: She's in the old times. She dresses like a Victorian.
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: Dude, if you told her that, she'd be like, hey,
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: I think you're Jewish. She'd be like, ah!
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: No! Why? That's the Old Testament. Because it's the Old Testament.
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: The pastor kindly told her there is nothing unbiblical about that,
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: but asked, does she feel like less of a woman
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: if she can't do 100% of those things? She agreed
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: to that. Then he started talking about biblical womanhood and
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: feeling feminine before God and said... He thinks what we
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: need to do is help my wife feel more womanly
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: in general. So these activities won't feel like a threat
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: to her. And basically that everything will be okay if
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: we add more romance to our marriage.
• 51:16
  Speaker 4: Is your pastor saying get it on more?
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: He said, I got you, dog. Let's get you some more.
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: Let's get you some more.
• 51:22
  Speaker 4: I got you. Yeah, your pastor said, I think she
• 51:25
  Speaker 4: just needs to get cracked.
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: That's biblical. And he's like, remember, don't use protection.
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: And remember, missionary is the best.
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: It's the most godly position.
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: That's right. I think so.
• 51:37
  Speaker 4: See, face to face.
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: You're just like right there.
• 51:39
  Speaker 5: What's up?
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: At this point, I was relieved and felt like things
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: were going well. But almost immediately, I could tell my
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: wife was unhappy. She started arguing back with the pastor
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: about Adam and Eve and all this.
• 51:50
  Speaker 4: She is an Old Testament woman. She is an Old
• 51:53
  Speaker 4: Testament woman. Oh, my goodness.
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: Dude, I could go on for days about Adam and Eve.
• 51:57
  Speaker 4: Bro, she's not even Old Testament. She's just Genesis. Jesus.
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: If she's bringing up Adam and Eve, let's go ahead
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: and bring up that apple.
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Say, why'd you do that?
• 52:07
  Speaker 4: How do you like them apples?
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: It wasn't really her doing it. It was Adam not
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: saying anything and letting her do it. And then he
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: threw her under the bus. He's a pretty chill guy
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: and stayed calm. He said that as a spiritual leader,
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: he wanted to guide her marriage back to happiness. And
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: could she at least please give his suggestions a try
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: and see how she feels about it. And we can
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: talk about it Again next week.
• 52:31
  Speaker 4: Dude, the pastor's like thinking in his head, this is
• 52:33
  Speaker 4: way above my pay grade. This is way above my
• 52:36
  Speaker 4: pay grade.
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: Yo, man, can you come down here?
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: Can you talk to her, please?
• 52:41
  Speaker 5: Big G.
• 52:42
  Speaker 4: Big G, come down, please.
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: You know, her reaction to this is going to be,
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: we need to find a new church. Oh, yeah. Oh, absolutely.
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: He pointed out some Bible verses about fatherhood and some
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: about women doing manly things like running a business to
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: say this isn't all black and white. My wife begrudgingly
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: agreed with him. but I could tell she was still upset.
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: He has a drawer full of papers with couples' activities
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: in them, and he pulled out a few that he
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: would say would be good for us.
• 53:09
  Speaker 4: Just a Kama Sutra.
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: My wife took hers but didn't read it. Awkward car
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: ride home. The pastor told us to not immediately talk
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: about the appointment because it leads to fighting. Over the
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: next week, she started to be a little nicer and
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: more relaxed, and I thought maybe she had read some
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: of the materials the pastor gave us. I suggested we
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: do an us day, which one of the suggestions the
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: pastor had given us. And we agreed to send the
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: kids to my parents that weekend. Well, that day ended
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: up being the worst day of my life, probably. Dude,
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: this guy seems.
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: Nice, though.
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: This is a man who just genuinely, he just wants
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: to be a good husband and a good dad. And
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: his wife is like, you, you little girl.
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: Man up.
• 53:56
  Speaker 6: Ha ha.
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: What, do you want me to get you a skirt? Dude, honestly. Honestly.
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: Men used to go to war in armor with swords.
• 54:09
  Speaker 4: They never questioned it.
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: And you want to sit here and baby our children.
• 54:12
  Speaker 4: You want to take me out on a date? Disgusting.
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: You're gay.
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, I bet you probably like I can
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: vote too.
• 54:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, great.
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: Real manly.
• 54:24
  Speaker 4: Silence me.
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh.
• 54:25
  Speaker 4: That's what she wants, dude. This is weird.
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: At first, things were nice. I planned everything as the
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: worksheet suggested, made her a nice breakfast, and had plans
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: in the afternoon to take her to get her nails
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: done and walk along the lakefront, which is a date
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: we used to do when we were first dating. But
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: that didn't end up happening because that morning we started
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: talking about some of the big themes of our relationship
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: and our values and goals. Again, as the pastor suggested.
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: I told her I wanted a loving relationship with a
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: woman I could adore and trust who has the brains
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: and values to nurture our kids, integrate adults, who loves
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: me and is there for me. And I would always
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: be there for her.
• 55:06
  Speaker 4: Oh, she's going to love that.
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: Oh, I can't wait to see what her answer to
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: this is.
• 55:13
  Speaker 4: She said you're bringing up feelings and emotions.
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: There you go. The pastor was confused.
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: He ain't cheating, lying, or gambling. Sly up. Oh, the
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: problem's not him?
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: I absolutely love the biggest thing that the pastor said was, bro,
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: you need to crack. That'll fix all of this.
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: A little more romance.
• 55:32
  Speaker 4: Oh, my God. Oh, my God.
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: Oh, my God.
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: Sorry, real quick.
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: I do know a couple that they do not have
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: intercourse unless they are having another kid.
• 55:39
  Speaker 4: And they're Christian. That's it? That's it?
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: That's very by the books, you know? Well, that's not
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: even in the Bible.
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: It says once you're married, anything, have at it.
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: We're strict procreators.
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: She might be one of those too. Oh my gosh.
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: But her answer was completely focused on kids. She always
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: wanted kids. She always wanted to be a great mother.
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: She wanted a good and trustworthy father for her children.
• 56:05
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: Notice how she says nothing about having a husband.
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, fair.
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: I pressed a little harder and asked, well, what about
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: your husband? What about me? What kind of romance or
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: relationship do you want? She kept deflecting and saying things
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: aren't as important when you're an adult. That past a
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: certain age, it's all about your duty to your kids.
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: I disagreed and said, we're 29. We're still young. We
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: should still have romance and passion and intimacy. My grandparents
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: are in their 60s and they still get it on.
• 56:38
  Speaker 4: Bro, old people will get it on.
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: I love how old people get it on.
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: Her take is that, yeah, your bedroom should be ice
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: cold once you've had kids.
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: That's the goal.
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: Not like the thing people like lament about. They're like,
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: I wish. How did this happen? This is terrible. She's like,
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: this is the end game. This is my infinity gauntlet.
• 57:00
  Speaker 4: We're at before 30, by the way. And she's like,
• 57:02
  Speaker 4: this is how this is my life now.
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh. At this point, she obviously got very
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: annoyed and was rolling her eyes saying, oh, that's what
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: this is really about. I tried really hard to stay
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: calm and tell her, well, no, that's not what this
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: is about. But yeah. That's a factor in our relationship.
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: I want intimacy. And don't you? She kept deflecting and
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: she started to get upset in a hurt and scared way.
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: I was asking her, are you not attracted to me?
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: Are you just not interested at all? No, I don't
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: even remember how it got to this point. But finally,
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: she ended up blurting out that she's not interested in men.
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: Oh, shout out the commenter who called that.
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: Shout out who called it there was someone in the
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: comments who said.
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: That oh my god.
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: And it was she was she was just lean it
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: was way up though holy cow whoever you were make
• 57:55
  Speaker 3: it known who and they were like she's doing she's
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: focusing so hard on the kids and excluding her husband
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: because she just doesn't want a husband she wants a
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: wife which she can't have because she's old testament girly Bro.
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: Oh, man.
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: I did not even see that coming. That hit me
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: like a pound of bricks.
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't think that was the case, honestly.
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: Straight to the, what's this part? Temple, right?
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, straight to the temple, which is funny because we're
• 58:24
  Speaker 3: talking about religion.
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: The temple of the mind.
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: Oh, shit.
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: And the temple of the soul. Yeah, Bug was the
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: one who called it.
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: Oh, it's Bug?
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: Dude.
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: Guys, right now, everyone, clap to the chat for Owensbug.
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: Holy cow.
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: You threw it out.
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: I'm jealous you got it. I would have, yeah, that's
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: so common in the community, y'all. Dude, I was talking
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: to my J with a G friend. We went to
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: a comedy show, and he told me some of the
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: stuff that happens in that community. I was like, what?
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: He was like, yeah, sometimes we hit each other up
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: on the app, and they just keep the door unlocked,
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: and we just go in, do it, and then leave.
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: And I was like.
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, they got their own arrangements over there.
• 59:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Straightforward to the point.
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: Well, not straight, but... To the point.
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. I obviously... was stunned. And this is
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: where it all started.
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: To come out.
• 59:13
  Speaker 4: Literally, I guess.
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. Boom.
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: Literally, I guess she kind of tried to backpedal. But
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: I asked her directly, are you telling me you're a sapphic?
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: Are you telling me you're a thespian with an L?
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: Oh my God, and you guys are at the beachfront
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: right now? You're going to throw her in the water?
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: And she couldn't deny it. She didn't say a yes
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: or no, but she started talking about gender roles and
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: how important it is for children to have male and
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: female role models so that they could grow up into
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: proper men and women and not confuse or stuck in sin.
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: Oh, it's the self-hatred. It's the self-hatred.
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: And I asked her again directly to clarify. Are you
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: telling me that you're a sapphic and you married me
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: in a marriage with gender roles so that your kids
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: wouldn't end up attracted to the same gender? She started
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: crying and yelling at me. I didn't know how lonely
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: it is. And she shouldn't be denied a proper marriage
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: life just because of her sins and that she's repented
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: and God will forgive her as long as she keeps
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: working on being a good wife to a man.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 6: And that.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: of all of this is because her father was a
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: bad dad and passed away when she was young. And
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: that's why our kids need to see a real man
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: in their lives. Wow.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: And Opie says, well, that was a couple of weeks ago.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: We'll get into the update, but.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know, man. I think clearly the path
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: forward here is divorce.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 3: And, you know, trying to help your wife understand that
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 3: it's like, that's not, that's not real. Yeah.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: You know, you're okay. You can go, Have a wife.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: This isn't for us.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 4: You're not going to live your life as a lie
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 4: and be miserable?
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: You're basically punishing yourself being in a marriage with me.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 4: Punishing everyone. You're punishing everyone. The kids.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 5: OP.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 3: Tell her to, you know, just convert her to Catholicism.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 3: And it's like, you know, the Pope said that that's cool.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 3: The Pope said it's alright.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: The lawyer princess. Someone was sent to a conversion camp?
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: Maybe. Yeah.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 3: I would not bet against that see my you know
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 3: something interesting to me if her whole thing was that
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 3: he was acting too womanly and too effeminate is it.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: Just because like she was like oh i like i
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: like him more now because he's being a woman she.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 3: Was getting a little yeah she's like i shouldn't be
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 3: attracted that you need to be a man who's strong
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 3: and mean and i need to learn how to be
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 3: attracted to that instead you can't be a man who
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 3: loves his kids and takes care of his family and
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 3: Because that makes me feel like you're a woman and
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 3: I can't deal with that.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: OP, maybe you just need to put on a dress.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: I would be like, how am I now? Are you
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: sleeping with me now?
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: You know?
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: Dude, this is crazy. Also, another note I'll say real quick.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: Sometimes with couples that are Christian, they don't really talk
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: much at the beginning. And they really focus on getting married.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: That all these fundamental things kind of get skipped over.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 4: It's rushed.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: It's very rushed. And then they get married.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 4: Because usually they're young, and they're like, I just want
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 4: to get it on.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: And I know a couple of people that have gotten
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: in that, and it's like, well, you guys don't see
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: the eye to eye on this thing. Why is that?
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: And it's like, ah, you know.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: That's life. We just never talked about it.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 4: That's just life.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: Now we're locked in with two kids.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: Okay. Lucy P., the Bible says nothing about sapphic relationship.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: It only talks about not men being with no other man.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 5: Wow.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: That's the perfect loophole for her, right? Someone should let
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: her know.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: Well, that was a couple of weeks ago. As you
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: can imagine, in the past few weeks, I've been, heck,
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: there is no way I'm staying with her. And I've
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: just been talking to a divorce lawyer and trying to
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: figure all this out and how it would work. I'm
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: staying with my parents because I don't think the kids
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: should see us interacting this way. My lawyer told me
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: I should move back or get a custody order. So,
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: I need to work on that. CommentsJustLog85 says, Bigger question
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: is for you. Do you believe that the issue is
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: Is it your wife's a sapphic or a religious fanatic?
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: Your romantic relationship is pretty clearly passed away, but co-parenting
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: is going to force you down some uncomfortable paths. Obi says,
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: not sure what you mean by that. They're both issues.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 4: Oh.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: I can't be married to a sapphic, so that's an issue.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: Well, at least it's in that context. I thought he
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: was about to be like, it's wrong for her to
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: be that way.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: And you're trying to tell me from raising my kids
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: or teaching them her warped version of Christianity is another issue.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: My lawyer... or for custody. It's not about her religion
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: or spicy related orientation. It's solely about her keeping me
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: from the kids, which is why he wants me to
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: move back ASAP.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: Cause she will. Someone said earlier, it's like when the
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: divorce happens, she tells the judge, he did nothing for
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: the children. He did nothing to help with the kids.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 3: Also shout out Ronan for being the consummate rage baiter
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 3: in the chat.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: Always love Ronan. Ronan in the chat being like, you
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: know what? I'm on her side.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 5: She's right.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 4: He's doing hard mode.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: He's on hard mode.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 4: I love it.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: I saw a comment earlier.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 3: He said, I'm going to make sure to crack my
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 3: wife extra hard tonight just in honor of OP.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 4: I saw a comment. So I looked up if there
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 4: was any updates or anything like that. And this is
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 4: from nine days ago, by the way. This is fresh.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: I remember what happened nine days ago.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: Oh my God.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 3: It's crazy to think that that's just the reality of
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 3: people in some places.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like happening right now in real time.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, people feel like that right now.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 4: Looking at a top comment here from Bin Ming saying, Wow. Yeah.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 5: And OP responds with, And this is kind of sad.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 4: He's like, I'm certainly reflecting on a lot of things
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 4: about our relationship, and I wish I had been less
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 4: blind overall. To be honest, I never had luck with
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 4: women before her, and maybe the first red flag should
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 4: have been that this pretty nice Christian girl wanted to
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 4: be with me. Oh, no.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: He's Quasimodo?
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Oh.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry. You're probably not Quasimodo.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 4: No. He was just like, oh, man, she wants to
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 4: be with me? Quasimodo.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: They're asking if we're supposed to switch now.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's them downstairs?
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: No, we have another story.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 4: No, we have comments.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: Oh, we have comments.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: Oh, there was only two stories in that?
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: Quasimodo? This guy?
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 4: It's the Hunchback of Notre Dame.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: No, from the Hunchback. From the Disney movie.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: Oh, sorry. I was looking at something else.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 4: But that is the end of that story. Wow.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 5: OP.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 6: Dang.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 4: Well, look on the bright side. Maybe you can be
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 4: with the kids now.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and at least you have them.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: And so does she.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Van Camper says, Opie, you got to hit the
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: gym and get into therapy ASAP.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: Agreed.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: Agreed.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a proper diagnosis.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: Dang, Opie, you'll find a new lady that also doesn't
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: want a lady.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 5: Hmm.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: Dang, bro, that's tough.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 4: That is unfortunately the end of that story. Again, it's
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 4: a fresh one, so check on that. I'll check on
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 4: OP maybe in a couple weeks or maybe months.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: Sour episode.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: We'll call him Ross.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 4: But we have comments for another story. Who's going to
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 4: read those comments?
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: Here we go.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 3: Well, we've got some comments before we finish this video
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 3: from the episode. My boyfriend humiliated me right before proposing, so.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: I dumped him.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: That was a good one.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: That was on July 30th.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 3: 2026, the TLDR for Story 1 is OP thought her
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 3: boyfriend of six years was finally going to propose, so
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 3: she dressed up and got ready for their special anniversary. Instead,
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 3: he criticized her appearance and said she embarrassed him by
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 3: how she dressed. Hurt by his comments, OP left before
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 3: the planned proposal dinner, leaving their future together uncertain. And
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 3: if you want to know how that full story goes,
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 3: you can go watch the full video.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: It's a good one.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and we have some comments from that said video.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 4: First comment here is from Beebrain. Nice. Saying, my husband
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 4: proposed to me after I woke up from a nap.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 4: I was still in my pajamas. We just celebrated 14
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 4: years of marriage. My advice, be with the person who
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 4: loves you just as much as you are in your
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 4: PJs with messy hair as when you're dressed up fancy.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: Dude, dude, dude, dude. I saw a quote. Go for
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: the person that'll be there for your worst day. Not
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: your best day, but your worst day. That's who you're
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: looking to be with.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: High quality wisdom.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 4: And another comment, being so wise. From Anna Holt 5673 saying,
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 4: black jeans are not formal wear. If you're wearing jeans,
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 4: don't throw stones at your girlfriend for wearing a summer dress. Oh,
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 4: so husband was wearing or.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: He was wearing black jeans.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 3: I remember the story because we pulled up like I
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 3: pulled up like what he was dressed like as just
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 3: like random L.A.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: Guy with black jeans and white T-shirt.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 4: Ah, yeah.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: She had a sundress on and he was like, that's
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: not classy enough.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 6: Jeez.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 4: It was wild.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 3: If you see a girl in a sundress and you
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 3: have anything to say other than, oh my stars.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: Glory. You are lost. What's all that motion back there?
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: You are lost.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 4: Another comment who's not lost is from Jacqueline Countryman 2976 saying,
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 4: He can't say crap if he was just wearing jeans.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 4: Just because he was nervous and doesn't want to propose?
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 4: Most women don't appreciate heart jewelry too much.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was his thing, right? He was like, yeah,
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: I don't know why I said that. I was just
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: really nervous. I don't know. It's like, maybe just stop
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: talking at all.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 4: Put in mouth. And final comment here from Brandy Ewell, 7421.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 4: saying so this is how he's going to treat you
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 4: for the next 50 years every time he gets stressed
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 4: about something I would never accept a proposal if it
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 4: began that way if you.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 3: Have anything to say about me and the sundress if
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 3: I'm OP if you have anything to say other than oh.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: It's not gonna work it's.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: True This is true.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: What an episode, guys.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 4: Those are the comments.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: His sundresses are the lady version of gray sweatpants. Agreed.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 6: Agreed.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: Freaking agreed.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: But they're classy.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 4: But that is the end of that episode, guys.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: Oh, sweet. So if you love us, make sure to subscribe.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: We love you. And see you tomorrow.