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Cal Raleigh’s hurt, Ohtani’s gem, Miz masterclass, Max Fried’s elbow, Baby Mets lose Francisco Alvarez · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: I'm going to get it right this time.
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  Speaker 2: It's Thursday, Yes, just in fair territory, by the way,
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  Speaker 2: if you want to check that out later. I had
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  Speaker 2: some fun with Ken and we've got a lot of
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  Speaker 2: hit to a lot to hit today, but I do
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  Speaker 2: want to start with what I think is a fun
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  Speaker 2: one that you will both appreciate. A member of our network,
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  Speaker 2: the FT Network, is still kicking it and it is
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  Speaker 2: former Minnesota Twins pitcher and former Big leaguer Tyler Duffy,
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  Speaker 2: who is in Mexico. He's also one of the hosts
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  Speaker 2: of our twin show Twin Cities Territory. So let's run
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  Speaker 2: that so you guys can see a little reaction and
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  Speaker 2: maybe send him a good luck out there in Mexico.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I'm in Marita, Mexico right now. I'm going to join
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  Speaker 4: the Leoniste Yucatan, try my hand it some pitching for
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  Speaker 4: a minute and see if some things work out.
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  Speaker 5: That's awesome.
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  Speaker 4: We're cabinet and cabinet and you know, flying by the seat.
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  Speaker 3: Of our pants on your way to practice right now, correct.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, headed to the stadium. You know, I joke with
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  Speaker 4: everybody how fast baseball is, you know, and you get
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  Speaker 4: a call on a Monday and they say, hey, you
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  Speaker 4: want to pitch on Thursday, and you kind of just go.
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  Speaker 4: So it's uh, you know, things happen quick and uh,
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  Speaker 4: you know, we'll see where we end up.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, duff, how far are you built up?
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  Speaker 5: This is a spring training question. How how many pitches
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  Speaker 5: are you good for right now?
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  Speaker 4: So I've been ripping like sixty pitch bullpens, which anyone
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  Speaker 4: who's ever done that is not the funnest thing to do. Uh,
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  Speaker 4: you know, we had some hitters for a while, and
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  Speaker 4: you face the same three guys for like a month
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  Speaker 4: and you can't get anybody out anymore or anything. And
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  Speaker 4: so it'll be good to get some some spikes on
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  Speaker 4: and the turf and uh you'll see some real hitters
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  Speaker 4: have some energy and you know all that good stuff.
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  Speaker 3: So we'll see.
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  Speaker 4: I'm just saying, I gotta survive.
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  Speaker 3: The first inning.
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  Speaker 4: That'll be the hardest part.
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  Speaker 3: And you're starting tomorrow? Is that right Thursday? I think?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, the plan was tomorrow, but you know, as y'all
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  Speaker 4: well know, things can change in a heartbeat. So headed
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  Speaker 4: the stadium, get a little a little work in and
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  Speaker 4: get hydrated. It's nice and toasty down here, so you know,
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  Speaker 4: it's it's just a little South Texas weather.
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  Speaker 3: What it really is, how does this work? Is it
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  Speaker 3: a contract situation, a certain timeframe or open ended?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's basically show up and play.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 4: I comped this league a lot too, if you combined
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  Speaker 4: college and major league baseball together, because you can get
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  Speaker 4: traded left and right, and every game matters exponentially more
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  Speaker 4: than a major.
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  Speaker 1: League baseball game.
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  Speaker 4: So it's just, uh, it's do or die. You know,
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  Speaker 4: we're I think they're like three weeks in down here
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  Speaker 4: and managers and GM's are already fired and getting rehired.
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  Speaker 4: It's uh, it's the Wild West. It's fun if you
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  Speaker 4: like playing baseball.
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  Speaker 1: It's a good place. That's cool. I think of a
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  Speaker 1: couple of things.
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  Speaker 2: Number one, like Kevin Pillar getting DF eight and then
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  Speaker 2: coming on our show seconds later. It's just cool to
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  Speaker 2: get the inside access of a player going through his journey.
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  Speaker 2: And Aja also just randomly thought of this. If digital
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  Speaker 2: shows and podcasts were more of a thing, maybe you
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  Speaker 2: would have done that tail end of the career, right,
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  Speaker 2: Like if we came to you for FT, really you
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't You wouldn't appear like Duffy's doing. You wouldn't have
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  Speaker 2: touched that.
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  Speaker 3: No chance. No, really, what's what's the what's the upside
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  Speaker 3: for me to do?
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  Speaker 5: That's Scott?
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  Speaker 2: What's the upside? Well, you eventually get into media and
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  Speaker 2: my thing. I mean you know this too. How many
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  Speaker 2: players don't do crap with media or not interesting or
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  Speaker 2: don't say anything or don't give much access, and then
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  Speaker 2: they're the first in line to try and beg for
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  Speaker 2: media jobs. I'm not saying that's you. You were the
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  Speaker 2: opposite of that. You gave your time like nobody else.
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  Speaker 2: But I was just wondering if you would have even
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  Speaker 2: gone to the next level of being like, yeah, sure,
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  Speaker 2: I'll document what's going on a little bit more.
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  Speaker 3: Which would you want me to be? Trevor Bauer? We're
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  Speaker 3: a microphone when I pitch and then you know at
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  Speaker 3: the Empire, So I get no, I mean I don't understand, Like, no,
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  Speaker 3: I wouldn't have done. First of all, Scott, I played
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  Speaker 3: for long enough to where I didn't need to do this.
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  Speaker 3: And second of all, I played till I was forty
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  Speaker 3: years old. Was I gonna go play in Mexico or
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  Speaker 3: Japan just to film it? And know, like, here's the
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  Speaker 3: show idea I want is. I always said this I'm
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  Speaker 3: probably too old to do now. And I had it
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  Speaker 3: lined up with urban Meyer before he left Florida, where
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  Speaker 3: I would walk onto the football team and we could
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  Speaker 3: film that and make that a show and people would
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  Speaker 3: be all excited because they get the crap beat out
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  Speaker 3: of me twenty four hours a day.
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  Speaker 5: Oh oh my gosh, what age? What age? Did you
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  Speaker 5: feel like you were going to cut that off at
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  Speaker 5: thirty five?
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  Speaker 3: No, I still think I could do it. I think
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  Speaker 3: I could do it for you.
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  Speaker 5: Oh my god, like they're going to hit you or
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  Speaker 5: you're kicking. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I had it all set up. Urban Meyer had to
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  Speaker 3: talk about this one time a couple of times, and
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  Speaker 3: he said, I could be the what is it, the
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  Speaker 3: missile on the kickoff team and I could just run
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  Speaker 3: down and like cross body block, like the whole wedge
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  Speaker 3: and then the rest of.
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  Speaker 5: Oh you want to hit people?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but they'd hit me back. It's not like I
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  Speaker 3: would just be standing there age. It's like I only
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  Speaker 3: got It's like, I'm that'll be awesome. I don't think
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  Speaker 3: I could play tight end krats. I could play tight
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  Speaker 3: end No, No, no, I never had.
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  Speaker 5: It would look like it would look like you're standing
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  Speaker 5: still and you're running as fast as you possibly couldn't.
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  Speaker 5: They would just be like.
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  Speaker 3: And you'd be like, all I gotta do is block
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  Speaker 3: and just hold him in here, hold him in here.
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  Speaker 3: You're fine, just hold him in here.
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  Speaker 5: Cooked you would be on our injury suck segment.
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  Speaker 1: A j I'm in between here.
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  Speaker 2: So strength wise, obviously, I think you could keep up there.
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  Speaker 2: I don't doubt that. But speed wise, dude, they're fast there.
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  Speaker 3: You don't think I could. You don't think I could
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  Speaker 3: be play on the punt team or something. You don't
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  Speaker 3: think I get to put thirty pounds on it, play
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  Speaker 3: play tight end, and you should be a blocking tight end.
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  Speaker 3: Catch a pass every every month.
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  Speaker 5: You'd be you'd be two seconds behind everybody.
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  Speaker 1: That's my thing, dude, they're so fast.
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  Speaker 3: You have fast.
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  Speaker 2: That's the one thing is if you like strength again,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not worried about strength catching football all that.
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  Speaker 1: The one thing is.
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  Speaker 2: Right, like krat said, if we just say, okay, everybody
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  Speaker 2: sprint from one end to the football field to the other,
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  Speaker 2: you'd be way behind.
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  Speaker 1: And I mean, with this with all due respect, tax Stars.
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  Speaker 3: You're telling me I can't outrun alignment.
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  Speaker 5: No, absolutely not. I don't think so zero alignment. I'm
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  Speaker 5: not finding one lineman, not one line you could not run?
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  Speaker 3: Agree to disagree with this one?
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  Speaker 1: Wait?
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  Speaker 5: Wait?
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  Speaker 2: Can we do this at some point like a j
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  Speaker 2: Can we go up to Gainesville and just be like,
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  Speaker 2: give us your slowest lineman who actually is a legit
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  Speaker 2: player though, like who plays and see if right, Like
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  Speaker 2: it's got to be a deeper alignment, not like.
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  Speaker 3: Trained this a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, for sure, train or whatever however long you want,
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  Speaker 2: and then we show up when is when is camps
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  Speaker 2: for them?
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  Speaker 1: July?
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  Speaker 3: I mean start in August?
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  Speaker 1: August?
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  Speaker 5: Okay augusta.
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  Speaker 2: I would love to see that, and and maybe you
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  Speaker 2: surprise us. But I just think these dudes are they
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  Speaker 2: can move like you're you're saying.
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  Speaker 3: Somebody they can't. You don't think I'm going from.
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  Speaker 1: One to the other.
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  Speaker 3: I wasn't.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not.
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  Speaker 1: It's not fun.
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  Speaker 3: At how far are we running?
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  Speaker 2: If you're running a gunner on the kickoff team? I
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  Speaker 2: want to see forty yards?
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  Speaker 5: Okay, forty yards that's all we're run. I'm sixty.
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  Speaker 3: Back when they were real times, I would have been.
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  Speaker 2: Like a six your sprint speed, dude. It's the difference
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  Speaker 2: between don't worry about him, Michael, get out of here.
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  Speaker 2: But all right, we're going to talk about this and
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  Speaker 2: see if we can line something up so you can
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  Speaker 2: go up there and we can and yes, you train
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  Speaker 2: and we have you face off again. To me, it's
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  Speaker 2: got to be somebody like what you're saying. Somebody's got
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  Speaker 2: to be on the kickoff team where they're a gunner. Right,
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  Speaker 2: it doesn't have to be the freaking you know, cornerbacks.
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  Speaker 3: Was gonna be the gunner, right, I said, I was
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  Speaker 3: going to be the guy on the kickoff team that
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  Speaker 3: just runs down. They don't have a wedge anymore. I
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  Speaker 3: was going to be the wedgebuster. They called it the missile.
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  Speaker 3: I'd be the guy that ran down and cross bodied
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  Speaker 3: all three of the guys and then everybody would have.
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  Speaker 5: To wait for you.
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  Speaker 3: They'd be like, come on, come on, that's that's.
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  Speaker 1: That's a good one. What about AJ versus the.
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  Speaker 5: Freeze, Let's start with the refrigerator. He's got to go
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  Speaker 5: to AJ versus the refrigerator down in Gwinnette.
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  Speaker 2: Then you get would you face the freeze AJ in Atlanta?
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  Speaker 2: Do you have any games.
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  Speaker 1: There this year?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, July fourth, I have one.
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  Speaker 1: Would you do it?
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  Speaker 3: Hey? He doesn't run anymore? He doesn't, I don't think
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  Speaker 3: so he didn't do the last game there.
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  Speaker 5: Oh they say he retired.
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  Speaker 1: Oh no, we got I didn't know that.
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  Speaker 5: We got injury. Someone else. Injury sucks the freeze injured.
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  Speaker 2: Show Hey Otani helping the Dodgers get out of the
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  Speaker 2: doldrums of a four game losing skid.
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  Speaker 1: What did we think yesterday?
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  Speaker 2: Aj of Otani's seven shutout innings and the fact that
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  Speaker 2: he continues to keep up as one of the best starters,
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  Speaker 2: if not the best start in the game.
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  Speaker 1: And.
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  Speaker 3: Uh, I think it's great. I think he's I think
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  Speaker 3: he's legit. I mean, I think he wants to win
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  Speaker 3: a Cy young and I think a lot of his
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  Speaker 3: focus has been on that this year. And I think
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  Speaker 3: we've talked about he's he's taken away from his hitting
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  Speaker 3: a little bit. Now he's got to have today off, right,
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  Speaker 3: didn't They say they're giving him today off from hitting
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  Speaker 3: because he pitched yesterday. So that's going to take a
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  Speaker 3: little bit of the focus off his hitting. But I
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  Speaker 3: think he's nasty. But I also think it's uh, you know,
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  Speaker 3: taken away from his hitting a little bit, like I said,
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  Speaker 3: and he's going to have to he's I think he's
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  Speaker 3: getting today off. He got he didn't hit yesterday, and
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  Speaker 3: Dave Robertson he's getting him today off. So it's definitely
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  Speaker 3: gonna take away from his hitting. But he's pitching and
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  Speaker 3: he wants at so young and right now he's in
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  Speaker 3: line to get it. I still think he's I still
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  Speaker 3: think Paul Skens is the guy to beat. But we'll
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  Speaker 3: see if a Tony can keep this up for a
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  Speaker 3: whole year.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I feel like somebody that can just turn
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  Speaker 5: it on when he's not pitching and hit fifty five
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  Speaker 5: homers and steal fifty bases like he's like, oh, well
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  Speaker 5: that's something that happens. Okay, well I'll go do that. Oh,
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  Speaker 5: Cy Young, I don't have many more years left on this,
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  Speaker 5: on this UCL or new cadaver UCL. We don't know
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  Speaker 5: what it was, but I get it. My pitching career
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  Speaker 5: might be four years starting last year. So now I'm
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  Speaker 5: in three years left and he's pushing at it. I
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  Speaker 5: have zero doubt he can win a Say Young, zero doubt.
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  Speaker 5: But I also love that Dave Roberts is willing to say,
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  Speaker 5: you don't have to pitch. I mean, you don't have
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  Speaker 5: to you don't have to hit and pitch right now.
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  Speaker 5: We want to keep you healthy. We want to and
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  Speaker 5: I think because I've seen Dave Roberts say on multiple
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  Speaker 5: occasions that show Hey wants to win a Cy Young,
• 13:02
  Speaker 5: or he thinks show Hey wants to win a Sy Young,
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  Speaker 5: they're clearly catering to that. They're clearly saying, we don't
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  Speaker 5: need you in the lineup, even though our team is struggling.
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  Speaker 5: When you don't hit to score runs, We're gonna be
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  Speaker 5: fine if you want to win the cy Young Great.
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  Speaker 5: The ultimate question will be as the season rolls on,
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  Speaker 5: if he continues at this historic pace, which I think
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  Speaker 5: he can do, how low does his hitting need to
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  Speaker 5: get this year while he's on this historic pace where
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  Speaker 5: these two days off of hitting are going to maybe
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  Speaker 5: stretch out to three or is it going to take
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  Speaker 5: away from his MVP type of season if he doesn't
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  Speaker 5: get enough hits. That will be the question that will
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  Speaker 5: ultimately go side by side with wow, how can a
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  Speaker 5: hitter who has hit fifty five home runs in the
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  Speaker 5: season before win the Cy Young? Just two years later?
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  Speaker 2: One year later, we went over this too on fair
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  Speaker 2: territory the competition so right now, and I'm sure we're
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  Speaker 2: missing a couple of others, but we are just going
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  Speaker 2: over Skins.
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  Speaker 1: And the Misu.
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  Speaker 2: They're going to have the innings pitched advantage right now,
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  Speaker 2: it's not that large, but it'll get larger as the
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  Speaker 2: year continues.
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  Speaker 1: That's one component.
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  Speaker 2: You know what else is interesting, Aja, if you look
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  Speaker 2: at Skeins and mis right now, they're like once fifty ones,
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  Speaker 2: like fifty one innings, they're very close, okay, and Skeins
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  Speaker 2: will probably surpass him, and Skeins can strike out the world.
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  Speaker 2: I think he's figured out how to be as economical
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  Speaker 2: as possible so that he can go deep into outings.
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: He wants to go eight or nine every time.
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: Missus eighty ks in a similar number of innings as
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: schemes who has I think like fifty ish, right, so
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: one per Yeah, he's right at one per. Voters care
• 14:44
  Speaker 2: about that. Let's not talk about our opinion on it.
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: Voters care, right. We know that strikeouts have I need
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: to see one.
• 14:51
  Speaker 3: I need to see mis go through a whole year,
• 14:53
  Speaker 3: though he hasn't made a whole year without getting injured yet.
• 14:56
  Speaker 3: That's the one concern. We've seen schemes do it twice.
• 14:59
  Speaker 3: Now I worry about miz not making it through a year,
• 15:01
  Speaker 3: and he already had some cramping issues last night. And
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: then the other thing is I don't think Otani's gonna
• 15:06
  Speaker 3: have enough innings. I know the innings are down, but
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: they're going to protect this guy like nobody's business. And
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: I just don't know if he's if he's going to
• 15:13
  Speaker 3: get more than one hundred and thirty to one hundred
• 15:15
  Speaker 3: and thirty five innings. I think they're gonna as long
• 15:18
  Speaker 3: as they're where they want to be. In the playoff race.
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: I think they're going to keep him down and go
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: from there. But I mean I think Schemes is going
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: to continue to run. I mean, he's gonna one nine
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: to eighty ra. It's like he's he had one bad outing.
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: Other than that, he's been unbelievably good.
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: And I do want to just you know, prevent the trolls.
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: Miss last year came up what in like May or
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: whatever it.
• 15:38
  Speaker 5: Was before the All Star Game.
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, right before the All Star Games.
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: It was a June whatever it was. So this is
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: his first full season. What AJ means is I mean
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: he came up what last year at twenty four years old.
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: He's had some injuries in the minors. They they really
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: kind of slow played it with him in general. That
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: were control issues. So that's what he means is can
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: he put a full season together now that he's got
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: got injury?
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: Are they going to throw he got injured, He missed
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: time with on the injury. Remember he hurt himself last
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: year and again he started cramping his last night, right,
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: I mean cramping. Although it was kind of funny how
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: they were laughing about it. Although you know, he went
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: out there and then they I don't know, but it
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: was and were joking about it.
• 16:14
  Speaker 5: If you watch the video, you can actually see it
• 16:16
  Speaker 5: when he throws the pitch and he smiles and he
• 16:18
  Speaker 5: turns around and you can see his quad. Is like York.
• 16:22
  Speaker 5: His pants are tight enough that you can see his quad.
• 16:25
  Speaker 5: But there's so many things that for me. First of all,
• 16:28
  Speaker 5: who do you guys think right now? Is the cy
• 16:30
  Speaker 5: young who would win the SAIM if it ended today?
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: Otani?
• 16:37
  Speaker 5: Agent?
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: I would say Tani at the moment, but I got
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: four more months to go.
• 16:43
  Speaker 5: So then what AJ?
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: So?
• 16:45
  Speaker 5: Then what AJ? Brought up? The innings? Where is that
• 16:48
  Speaker 5: inning's limit? The most recent everybody's going to go back
• 16:51
  Speaker 5: to I went back to before Corbin Burns.
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: What is that inning's limit?
• 16:55
  Speaker 5: If Otani continues to be as dominant, if he has
• 16:58
  Speaker 5: a historic season in a hundred, you know he's got
• 17:01
  Speaker 5: like a one point two e RA, what is his it? What?
• 17:05
  Speaker 5: What are his inning limit? Where he if he doesn't
• 17:08
  Speaker 5: reach one forty, nobody can even consider him. Where is
• 17:12
  Speaker 5: that at?
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's going to reach that, right because he's
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: already in the low forties. So even if they scale
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: it back a little bit, right because he's on pace
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: for like one seventy. That's not going to get to
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: one seventy. But is he going to I think that
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: he can get to one forty one fifty, that's probably
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: the max there, but that place to what you're talking
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: about with Burns. Burns was at one sixty something, Zach
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: Wheeler was almost fifty innings above him and Burns one.
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: So to answer your question, Yeah, if Otani's rocking a
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: one two era and Skiing stays on his career pace
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: of like one nine to eight, I think that Otani's
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: going to win it, you know, with the innings pitch differential.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: But.
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: Doesn't get above one fifty. What did yeah Burns have one?
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: What did Burns have the year.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: One sixty something?
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: I don't think it. I don't think.
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: I don't think. If Otani doesn't get to one to fifty,
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: I don't know that he's gonna win. I don't know
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: that voters will give him enough credit. That's the one
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: worry I have.
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: And here's my thing too, is obviously the Dodgers are
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: scuffling right now, but if they say it was one
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: sixty seven, you're right, Scott one sixty seven, two hundred
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: and thirty four strikeouts. But the Dodgers are going to
• 18:24
  Speaker 5: turn it around. They're gonna start running away with the West.
• 18:27
  Speaker 5: But they're not going to say, oh, we got to
• 18:30
  Speaker 5: push it. Paul Skeens is gonna pitch every five days,
• 18:33
  Speaker 5: so his innings, he might have sixty more innings than show. Hey,
• 18:39
  Speaker 5: he might have if if the Miz goes on the
• 18:42
  Speaker 5: IL for a certain thing, because the Brewers are gonna
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: need every one of the Miz starts that he can give.
• 18:49
  Speaker 5: If the Miz goes on the IL, and let's say
• 18:51
  Speaker 5: he has thirty less innings but he has fifty more
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: strikeouts than Schemes, there's a lot of what ifs. But
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: what are the voters really going to go go to?
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: I mean, he's got twenty four more punch outs at
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: this point in the season. So if you just extrapolated
• 19:07
  Speaker 5: out and the Miz has seventy five more strikeouts than
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: Paul Skins, it's not like the Miss is seventy five
• 19:13
  Speaker 5: more strikeouts than like a middle tier pitcher. If he
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: has that many more strikeouts and Paul Skins, he's gonna
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: win it, because Andrew, the voters love some punch outs.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: They do.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: They love them, and the rate stats and some of
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: the cooked up advanced stats love them, so.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: That will be a factor if he stays healthy. So
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: we're early.
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: What about Mason Miller? Can we throw Mason Miller in
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: this conversation or no? Is that impossibly because he's a reliever.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: I mean his numbers, if you extrapolated his numbers out,
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: he's blowing them all away. So what can we not?
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: Can we not include Mason Miller in this threesome? Or
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: is it just these three because they're starters.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: If guys like this fall off right, one gets hurt,
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: one gets scaled back, like whatever, if stuff happens, then yes,
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: But I just think for a closure to win, I
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: know we talked about this a few weeks ago. I
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: think it has to be this perfect storm of Miller
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: doing what he's doing. I'm I'm confident in that, but
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: also like there has to be this lack of competition,
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: not that there's nobody, but that there's not somebody that's
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: riding a two we ra And I.
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: Just wasn't it two years ago when Class A had
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: that unbelievable season and he finished in the top three.
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: I believe.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: He might Hey, this one sucks.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: Isaac Azud, who works for fish On First, which is
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: part of the Ft Network, reporting yesterday about Robbie Snelling.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: So he's on the il a UCL sprain in his
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: left elbow.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: That's not good news.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: That usually leads to worst news, and Braxton Garrett is
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: up to make the start tonight. This tweet that you're
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: looking at was from yesterday, but a j you know,
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: we joke about the quote depth that the Marlins have.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: Snelling was a big part of it.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: In the miners, Thomas White's a big deal prospect like
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: Snelling just came up. They were hoping that he was
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: going to be a huge part of the rotation this year.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: Impact now, and this is how quickly things can change.
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, just stink. Let's think about the young man first
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: of one. Let's think about Snelling first and being heard
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: after one big league start. That's awful. And then for
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: the Marlins, yeah, this was a big piece they were
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: counting on, Like you mentioned, with Sandy and Perez and
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: Admire and then Snelling and Junk or whoever you know,
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: whoever else they're going to use this year. These were
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: big parts and they were hoping to use to compete
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: so's it's a set more sad for Snelling than it
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: is for the Marlins. The Marlins will go on, but
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: you know, you never want to see a guy have
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: one start and then have uc L spring because that
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: usually leads to the next thing, which is missing over
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: a year with Tommy John. So let's open and pray
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: that that's not the case. But yeah, this this stinks
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: for both sides, but mostly for Snelling.
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah, especially for a young guy like this just getting
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: called up. Obviously. I mean we joke about the fact
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: that the Marlins have such depth in their pitching. These
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: are the things that happened. I remember when aj Hinch
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: got the job with the Tigers and he was talking
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: about He's like, oh, we have these three guys coming up,
• 21:57
  Speaker 5: and I forget exactly who everybody was. I know was
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: one of them. I think Job was one of them too,
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: And he was like, you know what, how many of
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: these guys all make it at the same time, all
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: develop at the same time, all are healthy at the
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: same time. That's why when teams have healthy pitchers, young pitchers,
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: it's time to push all in kind of like what
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: the Pirates did. Kind of like Pirate push all in
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: more than anything. But it sucks for snowing.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I got what you're saying, Like diet push all in,
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: a little bit of.
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: Push Yeah, like a like a coupon push all.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: It The key for some teams that go through this
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: cycle a lot, like the Marlins, is can you align
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: everything at the same time. Can you align the way
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: that pitching progresses and the position players progress right? Sometimes
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: we see that with teams where it's like, Oh, they've
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: got the pitching right now, but they don't.
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: They still have to go but they still have to
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: go out and supplement it. Scott. That's the thing that
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: the Pirates.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: No team doesn't have good young and good veteran players
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: that win the World Series.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: It never happens.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: Hey, here's a quote from Lance mccullor's junior on reaching
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: nine hundred career strikeouts in yesterday's game. He said, all honesty,
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: it makes me a little sad, like maybe what could
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: have been without the injuries and stuff, But it's just
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: part of my journey, part of my story. He struck
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: the guy out, and Vazquez was asking for new ball,
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: and I said, nah, I like that ball.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: That's a punchy ball. Throw that back here.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: He told me after the ending, cool to get there
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: and hopefully have a good, healthy year, start putting some
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: good starts together, and maybe make a run at one
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: thousand career strikeouts.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a tough one, AJ, I mean, he was
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: a big deal.
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: Couldn't you get to a thousand this year if he
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: stays healthy. I mean, he's got almost what four months left?
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: If he has twenty more starts, shouldn't he get close
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: to one thousand this year if he could stay healthy.
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: I mean it's weird for hear him say hopefully make
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: a run. I mean should be like, yeah, to get
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: to a thousand, I mean.
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: That's it. I would Ever since we started this, ever
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: since we started the show, he's been hurt, and I've
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: been texting him in different ways, and I mean, if
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: I would go through like the different that we've gone through,
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: Like it feels like you can read how his just
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: his psyche, not that he's beaten down by injuries, but
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: that he's like realistic that this is not necessary, Like
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: being healthy and having forty innings right now at this
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: point in the season is not the norm for him
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: in the last few years. So I think he's being
• 24:23
  Speaker 5: realistic with what he's saying that he doesn't know if
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: he'll get one hundred more strikeouts this year. Do we
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: think he should? Absolutely, he's have forty three and forty innings.
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: But he's also like, well, you know what I've thrown
• 24:35
  Speaker 5: since twenty twenty two, I've thrown one hundred innings. Nope,
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: fifty yes, ninety five innings ninety five point two innings.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: Since forty years too.
• 24:48
  Speaker 5: So he's like, he's like, I don't know. So I
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: like that he's being honest about it.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's twenty five innings a year on average,
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: so it's much less than Yes the goal of course,
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: AJ that should be the goal for him. But if
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: we told you at the end of the year that
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: Lance mccullors Junior made like twenty five plus starts, I
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: think most people would be shocked, just based on what
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: he went through recently.
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: It's not even up to us. I think he would
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: be almost shocked, Like, it's not up to us to like,
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: judg ah, wow, we're so amazed that he stayed healthy.
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: I think he's even sitting there going wow, I would
• 25:26
  Speaker 5: be surprised.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: Hey, Derek Shelton made it official that Zebbie Matthews is
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: starting today Thursday against the Marlins. Also this morning, the
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: team optioned Matt Walner, who had been struggling this year.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: So some little Twins.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: Moves by the way, aj Byron Buckston's quietly having a
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: really good year. He's playing and he's bashing homers.
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: He's having a great year. I mean, anytime listen, anytime
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: Byron Buckson can be on the field, He's been really good.
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: It's just been a question of him stained on the field.
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: But this year he's been healthy. He's playing a good
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: center field and he is mashing. He's got the buck trip.
• 26:01
  Speaker 5: On and last year and last year sparks the debate again.
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: If he's hitting like he's hitting now, makes the All
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: Star team, sparks the debate. Does he walk back what
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: he said he wants to stay in Minnesota? That's it.
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: I mean, obviously it's going to come up. Who couldn't
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: use that in center field? Because he's shown the last
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: year change now that he's healthy.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: It's a tough one when you see where the Twins
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: are going right now.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: Might have to wait a bit.
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: You know, if you're this is probably this is probably
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: not a good short segment question, but AJ you did
• 26:41
  Speaker 5: you ever play on a bad team that you were like, man,
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: I'm doing really good. I want to stay. I guess
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: maybe your braves here when you're MVP, you wanted to
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: come back.
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: They told me they asked me if I would be
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: traded and I said yeah, as long as it's not
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: to Seattle. And then I found out that they were
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: trying to trade me to Seattle, and so Dods went on.
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: That on that story is so good. We're like, yeah,
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: it's cool, as long as it's not.
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: So I was the Britz Carlton and keep his skin.
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: I neverget. John Hart came up to me at the
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: pool said, hey, you know it's it's about It was
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: May too. It was pretty early. He goes, you know,
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: we just want to know would you would you be trade?
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: Would you be willing to get traded? And I was like, sure, John,
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: as long as it's not the Seattle. And then I
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: found out that they were trying to trade into Seattle
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: because Zanino Mikes Zanino. At the time, they wanted me
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: to kind of mentor Mike Zanino.
• 27:29
  Speaker 5: So they were like, yeah, I was.
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: Dodge a bullet on that one.
• 27:36
  Speaker 5: Orlando native going to Seattle, Washington. Not a lot of
• 27:41
  Speaker 5: quick flights.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: No, that's Siberia for a J. Right, And hey, it's
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: nothing against the city a J loves it.
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: It's just I love Seattle. First of all, I love Seattle. Yeah,
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: I love Seattle. You talk, I love Seattle. And but no,
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: but at the time I kids rolled, they have to
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: travel and live out there.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: No, thank you, Kratz. Big run for the Phillies right now.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: Hammer Territory pointing this out to take a shot at them,
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: Steven saying Phillies have gone eleven and four over.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: The last fifteen games and picked up.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: All of zero point five games in the standings entering
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: Thursday's play ten and a half games back and now
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: ten games back. Really just plays to how good the
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: Braves have been against some good competition too.
• 28:33
  Speaker 5: That's what I was going to. I mean, we've hit
• 28:35
  Speaker 5: on the last few days about the Phillies have not
• 28:38
  Speaker 5: played the best teams, and so I was pulling up
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: I was pulling up the Rockies last few games. Yes,
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: I get it, they played the Rocky I mean the
• 28:46
  Speaker 5: Braves last few games. Yes, they played the Rockies, but
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: they took two from the Dodgers. They've taken two from
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: the scorching Cubs. They've played the Mariners. I guess that
• 28:56
  Speaker 5: was their first series loss of the year. But you're
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: talking about two teams played completely different schedules. The Phillies
• 29:03
  Speaker 5: who good, they've turned it around, and the Braves are like, cool,
• 29:07
  Speaker 5: we'll just play a bunch of tough teams and we'll
• 29:10
  Speaker 5: continue to not let you catch any gain any ground.
• 29:14
  Speaker 5: Something catastrophic. I know we had hey sus on before,
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: but catastrophic has to happen for the Braves to lose
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: this lead. And people say, well, what about this time
• 29:23
  Speaker 5: back in ninety eight and then in twenty twelve. I
• 29:27
  Speaker 5: get it. Teams can collapse, Teams can make moves of
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: trade deadlines and they still collapse. But this team's hitting
• 29:33
  Speaker 5: on all cylinders. And they've with standard injuries too. It's
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: not like they've just played twenty six guys the whole season.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: They're on pace for one hundred and thirteen wins.
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: A JH.
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: That's not going to happen, but I know they're still
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: really good.
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: I don't think they should win one hundred.
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: I take the under, really, I'll take all because one
• 29:57
  Speaker 5: hundred is so many it's so tough to do. I
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: don't know, maybe AG disagrees, but one hundreds so many wins,
• 30:05
  Speaker 5: especially in this day and age.
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: I think I think they can get to a hundred.
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: I don't think they're going to get to a hundred thirteen,
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: but I think they can get to a hundred, especially
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: if the rest of the division stays down like the
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: Mets and some of the other teams have. I think
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: that's that's the key to winning one hundred is being
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: in a bad division.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: And they're going to add at the trade deadline.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: They've even publicly said this because they're the public you know,
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: traded team. How they've got, you know, money to spend
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: at the trade deadline, stuff like that, so they will
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: they'll go after arms. Injuries suck aj. I think I
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: know why Cayle Raley doesn't look the same. Here's one
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: reason that contributes to it. He's got a strain in
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: his right oblique. He's missed time for that right side,
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: and then it really started to unravel for him on
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: the field, like I mean, just grimacing, showing favoritism to
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: that side, not throwing on that double play attempt, and
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: then the.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: Mariners are going to sit him for a little bit here.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: For the first time in his career, he's been super
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: durable and he wants to catch every day. You of
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: almost anyone on the planet can relate to this situation
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: and how hard it is for him to take a break.
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I went through this too. I strained my
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: oblique once and I tried to play through it. I
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: made it a few games until finally I had a
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: game again when I was with the Rangers, and I
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: went up and we played the Red Sox and I
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: struck out four times and I couldn't swing, and they
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: are hitting. Coach Dave Maganan's like, what the heck's wrong
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: with you? I'm like, dude, you know my side's been hurting,
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: but I can't swing. And they ended up putting me
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: on the d L at the time the next day
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: after getting an MRI and realizing how bad it was.
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: So you can try to play through this, but especially
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: for me being a left hand hitter and it was
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: my right side, it's not easy to do and it
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: affects everything you do. Yes, you could, I probably have
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: caught with it, yes, but it wasn't comfortable. You couldn't run.
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: You couldn't. Really. It's hard to breathe, it's hard to eat,
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: it's hard to laugh, it's hard to do a lot
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: of things. And for I understand why Cal tried to
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: get through this, and this is he will not use
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: this as an excuse for why he went over thirty six,
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: But trying to play through this as next to impossible.
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: I don't think unless you've done this in your life,
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: you don't understand how hard it is to to try
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: to play through an oblique injury because it affects every
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: part of your life.
• 32:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah. I never had no bleaque injury. I just tweaked
• 32:35
  Speaker 5: my like rib, But like Cal, got three days off
• 32:39
  Speaker 5: that was consistent for my career. So I got to,
• 32:43
  Speaker 5: you know, I got to kind of play not play
• 32:47
  Speaker 5: through it, and just rest it and not take as
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: many swings, and it eventually healed. But when you're playing
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: every day, the wear and tear just even not even
• 32:57
  Speaker 5: as a catcher, but the wear and tear just in
• 32:59
  Speaker 5: general swing.
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: I don't know how.
• 33:02
  Speaker 5: I don't know how guys do it, especially a guy
• 33:05
  Speaker 5: that's going to swing from both sides of the plate.
• 33:07
  Speaker 5: Hopefully he comes back and he's one hundred percent healthy.
• 33:11
  Speaker 5: Because the biggest thing everybody says, don't push it with
• 33:14
  Speaker 5: obliques or else they never get better. Well, he pushed
• 33:17
  Speaker 5: it for a long time. Did he have it the
• 33:19
  Speaker 5: entire oh for thirty six slump only he can tell us.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: Got a one sixty one average and a five sixty ops.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: We went over slow starters the other day and he
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: was one of the headliners. But this is always the
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: part of the conversation that we don't have a lot
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: of information on. Now we have a little bit more
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: because we know that he has a legit injury. We
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: don't know how long it's been. But the timing for
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: the lineup at least helps that Brendan Donovan is back
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: for this team.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: That's a plus for.
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: Them, right, You're going to get more Donovan, who is
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: a big offseason acquisition, and spend some time on the shelf.
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: He's got an OPS that's north of eight hundred. In fact,
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: I don't know if anybody else is really balling besides him,
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: and I guess, and yeah, he's got a seven to
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: seventy three. I mean, it's better than he normally puts together.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: But I mean he's not like going off yet. That's
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: us he's reserved for the second half.
• 34:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah, this is going off for May. True, I mean,
• 34:22
  Speaker 5: refuse to lose territory. He hit it on farcus, hitting
• 34:26
  Speaker 5: on it really well. He was like he went through
• 34:30
  Speaker 5: May of his last four seasons, I guess, or three seasons.
• 34:33
  Speaker 5: I think he went through and I mean his numbers
• 34:36
  Speaker 5: in May are astronomical, So maybe that's good to me.
• 34:40
  Speaker 5: That's the ultimately what has to happen. We talk about
• 34:45
  Speaker 5: injuries all the time. Teams have to play the next day.
• 34:49
  Speaker 5: Cal Raley's out. Cal Raley, their MVP last year is out.
• 34:55
  Speaker 5: That's it. He's not going to hit forty home runs
• 34:57
  Speaker 5: until he comes back. He is out. Who steps up?
• 35:01
  Speaker 5: And to me, I think, yes, offensively, that's a huge,
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: huge loss, even though he hasn't been doing much right now.
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: I think he's that aircraft carrier in that lineup where
• 35:10
  Speaker 5: people are afraid of him because he one swing? Can
• 35:13
  Speaker 5: you put three on the board. To me, it's behind
• 35:16
  Speaker 5: the dish. How they mitigate that, how they go through
• 35:21
  Speaker 5: this time, if it's fifteen days or forty five days,
• 35:24
  Speaker 5: how they get through it. He is a huge, huge
• 35:27
  Speaker 5: piece behind the dish. Not taking anything away from Mitch
• 35:31
  Speaker 5: Garver or who else is there?
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: Is?
• 35:33
  Speaker 5: Elias Diaz is there? Oh well John, he's in, Uh yeah,
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: I guess right now on the.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: Roster who I admittedly don't know a ton about, but
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: he's up so and and even just like to use
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: the Garber comp I mean, those two are very different
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: behind the plate.
• 35:55
  Speaker 5: And Mitch has to stay healthy. Mitch. Mitch came on
• 35:58
  Speaker 5: kind of as that, like, hey, it's okay, Hey, we
• 36:00
  Speaker 5: can have Mitch Garb there because Kyle Raley's gonna play
• 36:04
  Speaker 5: a j Perzinski esque hundred and thirty five to one
• 36:07
  Speaker 5: hundred and forty games, and Mitch's bat on the bench
• 36:11
  Speaker 5: plus d H plus being that backup catcher is good enough.
• 36:16
  Speaker 5: Like you can't you can't expect him to go and
• 36:18
  Speaker 5: play eighty games in a one hundred and twenty day stretch.
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: So it's really it's very important, very very important that
• 36:25
  Speaker 5: somebody is able to step up and be that guy
• 36:28
  Speaker 5: behind a dish for him.
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: By the way, because when we know what one of
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: these looks like, well.
• 36:36
  Speaker 5: You have checked this out, WHOA.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: For the podcast crowd, we're looking at a shoe bredded oblique.
• 36:46
  Speaker 5: From you need you need to look it up for
• 36:49
  Speaker 5: the podcast crowd.
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: That's that's what a that's what a pulled oblique looks like.
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: By the way, that's when I did mine in twenty thirteen.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: That looks crazy.
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I told you guys. It was when I went
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: to go my MRI. The doctor said it was the
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: worst one you'd ever seen. And so anyways I tried
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: to play with it wasn't happening.
• 37:13
  Speaker 5: This is this is something that I think people that
• 37:16
  Speaker 5: AJ probably won't say because he just lived it. He
• 37:19
  Speaker 5: came up through their white sox herm did not want
• 37:22
  Speaker 5: anybody to go in the IL. I think you guys like, like,
• 37:25
  Speaker 5: there's dudes that I've heard from that team that were like, ah, man,
• 37:29
  Speaker 5: I was playing through this or I was playing through that.
• 37:31
  Speaker 5: And I think the culture that you guys lived was like,
• 37:35
  Speaker 5: I'll play through this, I'll play through it. It doesn't
• 37:37
  Speaker 5: get that that black and blue from one swing, unless
• 37:41
  Speaker 5: I am completely wrong. It is from trying to do
• 37:46
  Speaker 5: it every single time, trying to trying to play through
• 37:49
  Speaker 5: it every single day, like and that's that's something I
• 37:52
  Speaker 5: don't think a lot of organizations do anymore. It's not like, hey,
• 37:56
  Speaker 5: you're going to play through this well, then what happens
• 37:58
  Speaker 5: to him not as good as I am? Well, you're
• 38:00
  Speaker 5: better than the other option that we have, And I
• 38:02
  Speaker 5: think that's what Cal may have been going through, Like
• 38:05
  Speaker 5: who else is going to step up and be what
• 38:07
  Speaker 5: I am behind the plate. I'm not saying he said that,
• 38:09
  Speaker 5: but it's just a for a guy that played as
• 38:12
  Speaker 5: long as Cal has and not been on the I L.
• 38:16
  Speaker 5: That's those are the things he's playing.
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: Through at first of all, I came up with the twins,
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: and the twins were you can't make the club and
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: the tub, so we never tried to go the io
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: in that was And then when he got to Herm,
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: Herm just wouldn't let you go on the deal. I
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: mean he would it would just not let you go
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: on the deal. I mean, listen, her Herm was one
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: of the best trainers of all time because he knew
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: how to get guys to stay on the field. Her
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: Herm's a legend for that. Hermstneinder, if you guys what
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: we're talking about, is an absolutely legend in the White
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: Sox because he had the fewest d L I L
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: days forever, every year and a year out. He had
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: a great arm program, He did a lot of things
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: physically to keep guys on the field. And he used
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: to laugh because I just wouldn't go in the training room.
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: But her was awesome. Her is still awesome, man. We
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: just we just had It was a different culture back then.
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: You didn't want to go on the DL. Everybody did
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: everything they could not to go on the deal.
• 39:15
  Speaker 5: Yep, yep. It's a best ability is availability.
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: Well, on that topic, another catcher who's going to be
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: down for a while. The Mets lost Francisco Alvarez meniscus
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: tear surgery.
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: Two months.
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: It's a while, two months, a full eight weeks, that
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: was the word this morning. They said the longer end
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: of the recovery timetable for this type of injury. So
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: that takes you into mid July for the Mets. It's
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: a good catcher, and for a team that has not
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: been able to hit much, he was one of the
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: better hitters of their group so far here and they're
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: officially missing half their lineup. AJ And I'll bring up
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: what I did to Ken on fair territory. Some of
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: this is their own doing. The roster construction we've made
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: fun of for players out of position, but the other
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: part of the equation is, let's again use this example
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: Brandon Nimo gon, Pete Alonzo gon.
• 40:17
  Speaker 5: Now.
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: I know Luis Robert was playing some center field, but
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: Luis Robert track record of health versus Brandon Nimo, no comparison, right,
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: Pete Alonzo track record of health versus Jorge Polanco, no comparison.
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: And Ken's words aj on the show with me or
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: that he feels as if some front offices undervalue that component. Now,
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: and I brought up like great stats and all of
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: these other things that the models say. They don't necessarily
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: factor in what the medicals look like for every player.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: They factor in games played and all of that. But
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: it seems to be something that was overlooked by this team.
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: And now you get guys like Lindor going down, Alvarez
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: going down on top of the players who normally go
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: down like Robert and Panco and half their lineups out.
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: I've never seen this on anyone take a swing and
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: tear their meniscus by the way I've seen. I've seen
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: other guys heard it and doing other stuff, but I've
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: never actually seen a guy in a swing do this,
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: So it was odd. But I mean, yeah, the Mets.
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: The Mets have been beat up with Lindor Soto's miss time. Lindor,
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: some of the other guys you mentioned Scott that have
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: been traded away, Blanco's on the il for a long time. Uh,
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: it's just been it's just all gone wrong for the
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: Mets this year. That's the Mets. I always say this,
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: the Mets are gonna met and right now everything is meting.
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 41:39
  Speaker 5: Sucks. There's value in pitchers who make their starts. There's
• 41:44
  Speaker 5: value in players who are available to play one hundred
• 41:47
  Speaker 5: and sixty two, not that they have to play one
• 41:49
  Speaker 5: hundred and sixty two, but are available to play.
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: They did some other updates too, so could I sang
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: it through a bullpen session yesterday, says his back feels good,
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: but he's working to get his pitch metrics where they
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: need to be.
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: Sounds like it'll still be a while. To my l
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: what that.
• 42:10
  Speaker 5: I don't Yeah, I'm not going to comment on what
• 42:12
  Speaker 5: you said because it happens. But the pitch metrics, like, hey,
• 42:17
  Speaker 5: I want you to get off the iPad, I want
• 42:19
  Speaker 5: you to get off the rap Soto the track man
• 42:22
  Speaker 5: and throw a few pitches here. Ooh, I don't know
• 42:25
  Speaker 5: it doesn't look like it's spinning very well. Shouldn't the
• 42:28
  Speaker 5: pitcher know that? Shouldn't the like what are they? What
• 42:31
  Speaker 5: are they looking for? Like to me, I just I
• 42:36
  Speaker 5: don't know. I guess I kind of have a problem
• 42:38
  Speaker 5: with it, Like you're expecting him to get to a
• 42:40
  Speaker 5: certain level, Like shouldn't he, as a veteran pitcher, know
• 42:44
  Speaker 5: where he's supposed to be and then say yes, I'm there?
• 42:48
  Speaker 5: Or are they kind of micromanaging it and saying, hey,
• 42:50
  Speaker 5: I need my pitch execution to be a certain place,
• 42:54
  Speaker 5: or you need we need this from you so that
• 42:56
  Speaker 5: you can get out there and be the best code
• 42:58
  Speaker 5: I singa that we want you to be.
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: It's not just Tim too.
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: The report this morning was that it's going to be
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: a while for Lindor. And this is playing to what
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: you said the other day, Jay, when you were with
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: the team and with Mendy, that it's going to be
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: a minute. So, I mean June was looked at as
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: the return. I don't know, maybe it might even be
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: longer than that. Cabs are tricky, as we always say.
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: And then you weren't on for this and I don't
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: even know if we brought it up, or if I
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: just sent the tweet in, But there was an update
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: on Luis Robert a couple of days ago where there
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: wasn't you know, great progress or timetables set there either.
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: So you know, sure you want to say we're piling
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: on here, but no, I mean, the injury list is
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: getting really long for a team that.
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: Was off to a slow start, so it's just tough
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: to overcome that.
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: Now you know, they're playing as we're doing this segment,
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: and a j Ewing hit his first homer. There's some
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: bright spots. Carson Benge walk off hit after the day
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: after that scores Ewing and the day after Ewing had
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: an awesome debut. There's there's some cool things going on
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: with the baby Mets. They're calling him. That's good. You
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: need that to stay afloat. But you're going to need
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: the big boys if they're going to make any type
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: of comeback. You're gonna need them back and you're gonna
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: need them thriving. And they just have a long list
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: that's piling up.
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: They do, they do, but I mean, Lindor's the one
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: on this list that hasn't had injuries in the past.
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: I mean, Luis Robert. We all knew was going to
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: go down at some point. I mean, he has a
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: long history. Sinka has been on the injured list for
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: a lot. Polanco's been hurt before. So it's not like
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: these guys are fresh freshly. You know they're fresh, and
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: they know we knew this wasn't gonna happen. I mean
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: a lot of these guys have had injuries in the past.
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: I'm with you last one because this one will get
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: dated at some point. Max Freed left the game left
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: elbow soreness. They're gonna check them out today, so we
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: should get word at some point today on what's going
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: on there. And just for the Yankees purpose here, Kratz,
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: you hope if you has to miss time, it's fine.
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: It's just a short time, short term thing because they
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: actually do have pitching depth. You just need Max Freed
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: for the for the good stretch run there. So if
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: he's got to miss a month or whatever, that's fine.
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: You just hope it's not any structural damage. He said,
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: I'm not too worried about a super long term thing.
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: If I can, I would love to be able to
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: make my next start.
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: But we'll see.
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: You can't take almost anything a player says until he
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: actually goes through the imaging and the testing.
• 45:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah, posterior elbow soreness. So I don't know if it's
• 45:30
  Speaker 5: like back here. My fear would be that it's like
• 45:34
  Speaker 5: up in here where I think they said Scoble was
• 45:40
  Speaker 5: having posterior elbow soreness and then they found a loose body.
• 45:45
  Speaker 5: Either way, exactly what you said. You want Max to
• 45:48
  Speaker 5: be back. You want Max to be back healthy and
• 45:52
  Speaker 5: being able to pitch to his value seventh inning and later,
• 45:57
  Speaker 5: not just oh okay, we'll get in here and let
• 45:59
  Speaker 5: them through. Like his value is being able to work
• 46:02
  Speaker 5: all one hundred to one hundred and ten pitches and
• 46:06
  Speaker 5: getting better as the game goes on, saving some pitches
• 46:09
  Speaker 5: for later in the game and not laboring through his
• 46:12
  Speaker 5: starts like he's really good at that. And sometimes when
• 46:16
  Speaker 5: these injuries happen, Yes, if he's out a month, does
• 46:18
  Speaker 5: he take two months to get back to that spot it?
• 46:21
  Speaker 5: You know, how quickly does he get back to that area?
• 46:24
  Speaker 5: Hopefully they can bang this out in a few days
• 46:26
  Speaker 5: and he ramps up his throwing program and is able
• 46:28
  Speaker 5: to be back to max freed as soon as possible.
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: We just every want to hear elbows shoulders. But plus Jerry,
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: you worry about if it's here, which is the UCO,
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: which he's already had once. So let's hope Max is okay.
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: He came out of the game quickly. He knew there
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: was something wrong. He got out of the game, and
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: hopefully the Yankees getting good news once they get the
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: MRIs back today.
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: Cole should be back at some point sooner. Redun's back
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: for this team. They've got some depth, but Freed's been
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: great for them in the Yankees uniform so far.
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: Hey, we are back.
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: We didn't get to talk a ton of about the Miz,
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: but damn he was nasty last night with the big
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: velo and this. Then you're mixing in like what was
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: it first a B three or four heaters at like
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: one oh three, and then it's like boom got him
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: on the ninety seven mile an hour slider.
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: That's that's video game shit right there.
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: He's got good stuff. Can he stay healthy and he's
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: figured out how to throw it over the plate, which
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: has always been the key for him is if he
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: can throw it over the plate and stay healthy. We
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: always thought this guy had a chance to be special,
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: and he's proving it when he's out there and should
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: have made the All Star team last year. Week can
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: debate that, but right now he should make the All
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: Star team and he has a chance to maybe even
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: start if they if things break right.
• 47:43
  Speaker 5: I'll be interested next time Murph comes on if we
• 47:45
  Speaker 5: can ask him does he stay healthier? Because we keep
• 47:48
  Speaker 5: talking about health, you're talking about a Cy Young Award
• 47:50
  Speaker 5: or just a really good pitcher. If he doesn't throw
• 47:54
  Speaker 5: one hundred and two to one hundred and three in
• 47:55
  Speaker 5: the first inning, is that is that possible? Is that
• 48:01
  Speaker 5: something that they talk about? Is that? Because I mean
• 48:04
  Speaker 5: he comes out guns a blazon, and I mean I
• 48:06
  Speaker 5: don't just don't know how many hundred and two hundred
• 48:08
  Speaker 5: and threes you need when you have all the other
• 48:12
  Speaker 5: stuff that he has. But hey, you know what, I
• 48:16
  Speaker 5: you can't deny what he's doing. He is punching out
• 48:19
  Speaker 5: the world right now. And it's not a slider, it's
• 48:21
  Speaker 5: a cutter.
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: Okay, that's fine.
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: I will definitely always seed to you on that one.
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: Gavin Sheets, by the way, ruined their whole day yesterday.
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: Abner Rebay couple on walk single whatever, and then Sheets,
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: bash is a homer and all of a sudden, the
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: Padres won that game. They've been doing that a lot, right,
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: like left the slider up boom. Sheets has had a
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: few of those. He said, three go ahead home runs
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: in the ninth or later already this season. That's impressive.
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: He's a clutch bat. Brewers are getting them back today,
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: by the way, they're up six nothing as we're doing
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: this show. And the third they blitzed Griffin Canning and
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: got to the Padres here. But Gavin Sheets has been
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: nice little addition for the Padres.
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: He's had his Holy Sheets moments.
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: It's one of the best home run calls from your
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: boy Arsilo too in baseball. I look forward to any
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: time he does something.
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: And the crowd chance too, what do they do?
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: Like? How is it? Holy Sheets? Holy Sheets?
• 49:19
  Speaker 5: San Diego is so cool. But Gury Bay cannot walk
• 49:23
  Speaker 5: Xander Bogarts to get to Gavin Sheets. I know he
• 49:26
  Speaker 5: hung a slider. I know it's shorter to write center,
• 49:29
  Speaker 5: blah blah blah. He can't walk Xander Bogarts. You have
• 49:33
  Speaker 5: to be able to get three strikes before four balls
• 49:37
  Speaker 5: to Xander Bogarts.
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: In that situation, you get at the park, Dad, what's
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: holy sheets?
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: Hey, one game we didn't get to one series.
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: The Blue Jays were like, damn, can we beat the
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: race one time? And you know, a bunch of the
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: Blue Jays writers and reporters were saying and writing about
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: how that was the swinging game of the year for
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: the first quarter here for Toronto aj as. You know,
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: they're looking to fight off the World Series hangover and
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: all the injuries. D Dalton bar Show bashed a big granny.
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: Flick. It was just to flick to left field, which
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: was unbelievable. This ball is up and away he just
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: flicks it out to left field. So huge win for
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: the Blue Jays. This might have saved their season.
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so that was one. You know.
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: It's funny also as we hang around for a couple
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: more minutes and then Dodger's Territory is going to be live,
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: so we'll flip you right over to that show if
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: you'd like to.
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: Watch or hate watch. What was I going to say? Damn?
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: I just oh Foster Griffin. We talked about him with
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: Robert Murray. Thursdays are always weird when you have the
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: day games. You have a lot of runs during our show.
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: So somebody's gonna watch that segment back and be like, oh, guys,
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: bolster Griffin is not the good. Eleven earned runs in
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: his first eight starts, he gave up nine in his
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: ninth start, over four and a third.
• 51:15
  Speaker 5: I'm so pissed. I've been killing the over with the
• 51:18
  Speaker 5: Twins and the Nats, like it's just an over, just
• 51:22
  Speaker 5: an over all the time. But they had day games today,
• 51:26
  Speaker 5: so the over loving it.
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: The Nats are great for that because their offense is
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: really good, it's a top three offense and runs per
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: game right now, and their pitching is not good. And
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: then the Twins bullpen is just the best fade in
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: the business right now. It's been like that. It's such
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: a great fade. They just they do not care. And
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: I feel bad obviously for the guys there, but not
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: all of them should be in the big leagues, just being.
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: Real about it.
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: They gutted their whole bullpen last year, did just about
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: nothing this offseason to fix that.
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: And then you know, their owner went on.
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: All the media stuff and was like it's going to
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: be different and they're like why, and he's like, just
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: because because it's the different owner. Remember the different pole
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: lad took over and it was like everything is going
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: to be different, where he like guaranteed they're gonna be good.
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: It's what Dick Monfort used to do with the Rockies.
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: He doesn't do that anymore, but he used to come
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: out publicly before the season.
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: Started being like, we're gonna be good.
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: It's like, you probably shouldn't say that based on, you know,
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: your off season moves.
• 52:20
  Speaker 5: So he stopped, We're gonna be good. You know why?
• 52:23
  Speaker 5: Wat's this magic trick of baseball? Oh wow? It easy?
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: Oh wow? A j do you know who's hosting tomorrow's show.
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna let you. I'm gonna let you guess. It's
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: because for me? Who's hosting for me?
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: I'm out?
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: I mean, Jimmy, I gotta get some.
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: It's not Tricia. It's not because she.
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: Would have it's not Tricia. She would have texted me
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: Alana's and Gaines Wild to watch more than the Wall
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: on Hennas Kaiser.
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: Nope, it's a rookie debut. I'm out tomorrow, Katie Wu.
• 53:09
  Speaker 3: Of course, I'm gonna give her so ship.
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: Katie Wu.
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: If you want to send her a good luck on
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: your hosting debut.
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: Tomorrow message, go for it.
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: She's also part of the Dodgers' territory crew, but she'll
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: cover the whole game, which she also does for the
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: Athletic too. She'll put out notes and all that. So
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: it's gonna be great. Chris Bubitch is on the show tomorrow.
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: Ken Rosenthal will be on tomorrow. It's gonna be.
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: Katie did it when I'm not here.
• 53:35
  Speaker 5: Of course, we're gonna talk about Dodgers tomorrow. Get my
• 53:38
  Speaker 5: Dodgers hat out. That'll be great.
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: Dodging Pierzinski with her hosting debut.
• 53:44
  Speaker 5: That's easy. That's easy.
• 53:49
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