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Hard Knocks Episode 1 Reactions, Aaron Donald Comeback Buzz, 49ers Injury Woes & Mailbag · 3 and Out with John Middlekauff

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  Speaker 1: The volume. What is going on? My people? How are
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  Speaker 1: you doing? I'm John this three and Now podcast. Hopefully
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  Speaker 1: we got a little Sunday night football Thursday. I'm pretty
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  Speaker 1: sure the game's on NBC. Don't quote me on that.
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  Speaker 1: I actually don't know. But we got a lot going
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  Speaker 1: on otherwise. I watched Hard Knocks Seattle, so some takeaways there.
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  Speaker 1: We got a lot of other stuff going around the
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  Speaker 1: NFL today, a bunch of different stories we could hit on,
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  Speaker 1: Aaron Donald, forty nine ers, injuries, Vida Vella's agent, just
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  Speaker 1: countless stuff. So we'll dive into all that, as well
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  Speaker 1: I do want to start with hard Knocks, and I
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  Speaker 1: had a take within the last couple of years that
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  Speaker 1: I was out, you know, I mean the day and age.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes I see viral videos on like Instagram of like
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  Speaker 1: fifteen twenty years ago, watching guys get cut, watching the
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  Speaker 1: personnel meetings, when assistant coaches would crush got It was
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  Speaker 1: just raw and real. There was an authenticity to it.
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  Speaker 1: We don't get that as much anymore, honestly, really at all.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to go as far and say it's propaganda,
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  Speaker 1: but the teams now control the message heavily, at least
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  Speaker 1: this year with Seattle. You know, for the most part,
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  Speaker 1: it's teams that are awful, you know, And I guess
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  Speaker 1: a couple of years ago the Jets probably would have
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  Speaker 1: been pretty good. The year they got Aaron Rodgers, which
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  Speaker 1: I guess that was kind of cool. But for the
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  Speaker 1: most part, it's been really, really bad. And I thought
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  Speaker 1: the first episode was at least the first watchable one
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  Speaker 1: I can remember in a while. And I think part
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  Speaker 1: of it is is you know, you're watching a team
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  Speaker 1: that I mean, the opening scenes with them receiving their
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  Speaker 1: Super Bowl rings, like, this is a really good team.
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  Speaker 1: This is probably an eleven to thirteen win team, right.
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  Speaker 1: Obviously they lost a couple guys, but I've seen John
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  Speaker 1: Schneider's drafts. The guys that were placing them with, they're
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  Speaker 1: probably gonna be pretty good. The schedule is a little
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  Speaker 1: harder this year. There was a cool scene in there
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  Speaker 1: when John Schneider do you know what it shows? You?
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  Speaker 1: And I like Schefter but and it's not like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: he was talking about rap Sheet but now they're on
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  Speaker 1: the same team. Is rap Sheet had put out a
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  Speaker 1: tweet about the contract negotiations with Witherspoon and Schneider was
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  Speaker 1: pissed off and he got on the horn immediately and
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  Speaker 1: he called Rapsheet. He was telling Mike McDonald this if
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  Speaker 1: you haven't seen it, and basically said you got to
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  Speaker 1: call the agent. Said that is not coming from us.
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  Speaker 1: And you just realize where we're sitting as a fan
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  Speaker 1: or what I do. The stuff We get so fired
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  Speaker 1: up and share the tweets with our friends. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: some of it could be complete bullshit. I mean, you
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  Speaker 1: never know what's real, you never know what's not real. Besides,
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  Speaker 1: like this guy got traded or this guy got cut,
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  Speaker 1: any conjecture of like, you know this guy, the negotiations
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  Speaker 1: are going one way. There's always agenda, and you never
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  Speaker 1: truly know. But one big takeaway I had I wrote
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  Speaker 1: down three things. First, are we undervaluing Sam Donald a
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  Speaker 1: little bit? At this point I told Coward today, you
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  Speaker 1: just need to watch Hard Knocks for the montage they
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  Speaker 1: put together on Sam Donald. Now, I was taught a
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  Speaker 1: long time ago by a man that I respect, look
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  Speaker 1: up to, and helped change my life, Pat Hill, when
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  Speaker 1: we were doing recruiting tapes for high school kids, and
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  Speaker 1: so we were at Alabama House State, Fresno State, so
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  Speaker 1: we're recruiting against like the Oregon States, the Washington States,
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  Speaker 1: and the Boise States, that you could make a highlight
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  Speaker 1: tape for a lot of good players in high school
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  Speaker 1: and make them look like they're a five star, number
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  Speaker 1: one overall recruit. And then I learned in the pros
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  Speaker 1: same thing. So just because most talented guys, their highlight
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  Speaker 1: tape can blow you away. Now, now Bill Walsh believe
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  Speaker 1: that if you show me enough good plays, regardless of
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  Speaker 1: the bad plays, I know he can do that. And
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  Speaker 1: if I have a scheme that accentuates those things that
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  Speaker 1: he does well, I can make it work, and there's
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  Speaker 1: probably some truth to that, but I think Sam Darnold
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  Speaker 1: once you One thing we talked about on the uh
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  Speaker 1: Not we Colin on the TV show today, and he's right,
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  Speaker 1: is the branding for Mike McCarthy. You put his resume
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  Speaker 1: next to John Harbaugh, Jim Harbaugh, Pete Carroll. You know
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of guys in the NFL, Mike Tomlin, they're
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  Speaker 1: not only identical some of those guys. He has more
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  Speaker 1: playoff wins then. But we talk about Mike McCarthy, and
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  Speaker 1: my personal theory is which I appreciate. I mean, I
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  Speaker 1: struggle with food is Mike every time he takes a
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  Speaker 1: year off, he comes back bigger. In the day and
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  Speaker 1: age when everyone's sucking down or injecting gop ones, they
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  Speaker 1: don't even look at ice cream or a beer. They
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  Speaker 1: eat the air and everyone you can see the bones
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  Speaker 1: all over their body. Now McCarthy's going the other way,
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  Speaker 1: and I kind of appreciate that. But the branding around
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  Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy is like, hey, just he's okay, He's not great.
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  Speaker 1: It's like I think seven or eight of his seasons
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  Speaker 1: as a head coach, he's had a top two or
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  Speaker 1: three offense. He turned Dallas over the course when he
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  Speaker 1: got there in a team that won the division two
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  Speaker 1: out of three years and won twelve games three straight years.
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  Speaker 1: Yet the way we talk about him is like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: he's not even a top ten coach. And I think
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  Speaker 1: with Sam Darnold, I understand people going you can't overreact.
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  Speaker 1: I don't care who you are. Any salesman, any quarterback,
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  Speaker 1: any podcaster can have a good run. You could have
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  Speaker 1: good six months. Part of being good at what you
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  Speaker 1: do is doing it over and over and over again,
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  Speaker 1: right consistency and knowing producing results for a longer period
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  Speaker 1: of time. A lot of guys in sports history have
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  Speaker 1: had one good individual season. The great players have had
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  Speaker 1: you long lasting, productive careers. So Sam's early career in
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  Speaker 1: complete dysfunction in New York, where I would say, basically
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  Speaker 1: everyone's failed there the majority of my life at that position,
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  Speaker 1: and a lot of other positions as well. And then
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  Speaker 1: he goes to Carolina where he was side by side
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  Speaker 1: with Baker Mayfield, who both went off and had success since. Honestly,
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  Speaker 1: after they cut Baker Mayfield, he showed up in LA
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  Speaker 1: Two days later, he played a Thursday night game and
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  Speaker 1: won a game with Jean McVay. So I do think
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  Speaker 1: the branding and the pr campaign that he's a failure
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  Speaker 1: and he's a bust. It's hard to shake. It's no
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  Speaker 1: different on the reverse, where guys that are drafted in
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  Speaker 1: the first round, even when they prove after a couple
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  Speaker 1: of years they can't play, get more opportunities then later
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  Speaker 1: round picks because of the projection and the branding they
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  Speaker 1: have of Hey, he was the seventh overall pick. Hey
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  Speaker 1: was the twelfth overall pick. He was the fourth overall pick.
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  Speaker 1: And yeah, every time he's been on the field, he
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  Speaker 1: hasn't been good. If it's the same for a guy
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  Speaker 1: that Hey, this guy went in the fifth round, they
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  Speaker 1: wash out of the league much much quicker. Two years ago,
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  Speaker 1: Sam Darnold threw thirty five touchdowns and won fourteen games,
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  Speaker 1: and everyone's like, wow, season ended really poorly. It's like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he had a couple of bad games. Lamar Jackson's had
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  Speaker 1: some bad playoff games. Peyton Manning had a bunch of
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  Speaker 1: bad playoff games. It happens. Justin Herbert has been an
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  Speaker 1: abomination in the playoffs. How many teams in the league
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  Speaker 1: right now would trade their quarterback for Justin Herbert eighty
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  Speaker 1: five to ninety percent of the league. So, and then
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  Speaker 1: last year the it's like, okay, I wouldn't say he
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  Speaker 1: was up and down. He wasn't as dynamic as he
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  Speaker 1: was in Minnesota. But in what turned out to be
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  Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, the NFC Championship Game, he went twenty
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  Speaker 1: five to thirty six and threw three touchdowns and went
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  Speaker 1: toe to toe with the MVP, who many believe now
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  Speaker 1: is just a law Hall of Famer in Matt Stafford.
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  Speaker 1: And no one would be shocked if Matt Stafford won
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  Speaker 1: the MVP again, assuming he stays healthy. So I on
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  Speaker 1: tear list, Sam Donald is fourteen. If Sam Donald didn't
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  Speaker 1: have the negative branding coming into the last two seasons
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  Speaker 1: and had done what he had did, I think he'd
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  Speaker 1: been like eight or nine. Like I'm in agreement with
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  Speaker 1: Coward on this one. Like he's better than the perception
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  Speaker 1: of him. Now. Is he a perfect player? No? Does
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  Speaker 1: he turn the ball over? Yes, I can live with
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  Speaker 1: touchdown or I can live with interceptions if you throw touchdowns.
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  Speaker 1: Here's the other thing. A huge part of quarterback. I
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  Speaker 1: haven't had a chance to read it, but there was
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  Speaker 1: this long ESPN article on Drew Brees. Do you know
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  Speaker 1: what a big part of Drew Brees's package was? It
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  Speaker 1: wasn't just the capabilities to dominate in the Sean Payton system,
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  Speaker 1: it was the overall leadership and like the William Wallace characteristic,
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  Speaker 1: follow me to freedom. I forget the offensive lineman's name,
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  Speaker 1: Zach something, who became the play by play guy for
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  Speaker 1: the Saints. I actually think he's on He's on Sean
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  Speaker 1: Payton's staff now. When he retired from football, he talked
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  Speaker 1: about his career and everything and started going through different people.
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  Speaker 1: Drew Brees was sitting there, you know, like with a
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  Speaker 1: bunch of the assembled media and some of his former teammates.
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  Speaker 1: Zach Streef. When we started talking about Drew Brees, he
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  Speaker 1: started crying because of what he witnessed him do leading
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  Speaker 1: the football team, his work ethic, his intangibles. I look
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  Speaker 1: at Sam Darnold like a big, intangible guy, super high character,
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  Speaker 1: super hard working, super humble and easy to get along
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  Speaker 1: with as a teammate, which is definitely an underrated characteristic
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  Speaker 1: as a player. Think about our top quarterbacks, and you
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  Speaker 1: could even go back to previous generations, their teammates love them.
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  Speaker 1: Peyton Manning and Tom Brady were complete hard asses on guys.
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  Speaker 1: Yet whenever you hear players defensively, you know also right,
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  Speaker 1: not just the offensive guys, they love them. Patrick Mahomes,
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  Speaker 1: Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson. The way their teammates talk about him,
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  Speaker 1: it's like a close friend, let alone, you know, someone
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  Speaker 1: you're working with and depended on in your profession. So
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  Speaker 1: I think at this point in time, with Sam Darnold,
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  Speaker 1: he feels a little underrated going into this season. And
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  Speaker 1: you know with JSN you had Price who in that.
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  Speaker 1: Again it's hard knocks, but he was a first round
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  Speaker 1: pick for a reason, and he sure looks pretty explosive,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm I ca'me away thinking, like God, this team's
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  Speaker 1: probably gonna be pretty damn good. Again. The other thing is,
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  Speaker 1: you know, we're in a completely different era of life.
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  Speaker 1: You know, my generation, who I'm sure at one point
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  Speaker 1: in time by older generations was called soft and weak,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, a bunch of pussy's clearly that that
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  Speaker 1: is kind of the knock on the current gen Z
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  Speaker 1: group is they are completely different. How could they not be.
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  Speaker 1: They've grown up in a world where all they know
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  Speaker 1: is the Internet. Everyone their entire life has had a
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  Speaker 1: cell phone in their pocket. I remember the first time
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  Speaker 1: my dad was a farmer, he got a cell phone
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  Speaker 1: in his truck. It was like the size of the
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  Speaker 1: Center consult. There were wires going everywhere, you know, and
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  Speaker 1: if you wanted to call someone, you had to like
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  Speaker 1: it was such a pain in the ass. It didn't
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  Speaker 1: even work half the time. This is probably like mid
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  Speaker 1: to late nineties. I remember a time when we did
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  Speaker 1: not have the Internet, when people did not have phones
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  Speaker 1: in their pocket, when the person in your community that
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  Speaker 1: had a big screen TV was probably the richest guy
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  Speaker 1: in your community because it was the size of a suburban.
• 12:48
  Speaker 1: So things change, you know, if you watched that ESPN
• 12:52
  Speaker 1: did that show on Bear Bryant the Junction Boys. Back
• 12:55
  Speaker 1: in the day, they didn't give you water bricks. Even
• 12:57
  Speaker 1: when I played high school football, and like the early
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  Speaker 1: two thousands, if you were pissing the coaches off, they
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  Speaker 1: might skip a water break. If you do that now
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  Speaker 1: you would get sued, you might go to jail. So
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  Speaker 1: the days of Bill Parcell's even the Belichick Crew kind
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  Speaker 1: of done now. Some of the older guys like Sean
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  Speaker 1: Payton is still I would say a throwback. But I
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  Speaker 1: would say most of the younger coaches are pretty player friendly.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't mean any human worth their salt. Any ambitious person,
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  Speaker 1: whether we like to hear it or not, can take
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  Speaker 1: constructive criticism, wants to be pushed, wants to be professionally.
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  Speaker 1: I would say a little kick in the ass every
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  Speaker 1: once in a while. That is a healthy thing. Whether
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  Speaker 1: you're Tom Brady or whether it's one of you guys
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  Speaker 1: listening to this right now. If you aspire to do
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  Speaker 1: some big things in your career, that comes with the territory.
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  Speaker 1: And if you watched Hard Knocks, Mike mcdonald'll get on guys.
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  Speaker 1: But the one thing you saw like seems like a
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  Speaker 1: pretty easy guy to be around, seems like a guy
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  Speaker 1: that players are really gonna gravitate toward. And I remember
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  Speaker 1: having a buddy on the staff in Baltimore and I
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: was talking to him. We actually went out at the
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  Speaker 1: combine and we were around some of those other Baltimore
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  Speaker 1: guys that are now back on the staff with Jesse Minter.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, what made this guy? What's his deal? He's like,
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  Speaker 1: you don't understand how good he is with people. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not even just talking players. When they named him the
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  Speaker 1: defensive coordinator, he jumped over Zach Orr and Weaver, who
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  Speaker 1: were both former players and guys that looked the part. Now,
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  Speaker 1: Mike clearly hits the weight room, but he's not a
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  Speaker 1: former NFL player, and he's like, immediately all those guys
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  Speaker 1: fell in line and the working relationship within the defensive
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  Speaker 1: staff for a guy that got the job. Over All,
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  Speaker 1: these former players who had played in Baltimore who thought
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  Speaker 1: they were like John Harbaugh's guy could have derailed a
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  Speaker 1: lot of staffs. He's like, not only did it not
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  Speaker 1: derail the staff within a couple of years, We're one
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  Speaker 1: of the great defenses the league has seen recently. I
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  Speaker 1: mean they were a dominant defense a couple of years ago.
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  Speaker 1: Let's face it. The reason they lost in the NFC
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  Speaker 1: Championship the year they were the number one overall seed,
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  Speaker 1: wasn't the defense. Chiefs scored seventeen points, pretty sure, they
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  Speaker 1: scored fourteen in the first quarter and only three the
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  Speaker 1: rest of the game. It was the offense was atrocious.
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  Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, Todd Munkin. If you ever would like to
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  Speaker 1: quote have one back. Those two guys would give anything
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  Speaker 1: to have that game back. And I just think Mike
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: McDonald kind of encapsulates the modern day coach. And I
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: think a lot of the offensive guys, Kevin O'Connell, Kyle Shanahan,
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  Speaker 1: Sean McVay, you know, even Dan Campbell. It does not
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  Speaker 1: mean that you can't get on guys. It doesn't mean
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  Speaker 1: that you can't ride them. But back in the day,
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  Speaker 1: like you could just be a dick twenty four to seven,
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  Speaker 1: three sixty five, and a lot of old school coaches
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  Speaker 1: just were that was just the way you kind of operated.
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  Speaker 1: I think those days are done. I really do, because
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  Speaker 1: I think if you get on the internet you see
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  Speaker 1: the reaction to Mike McDonald's hour on Hard Knocks and
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  Speaker 1: be like, what's up with this goofy guy? I think
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  Speaker 1: a lot of these guys, you'd be shocked, are nerds.
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  Speaker 1: The thing that they're nerdy about just happens to be football.
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: And speaking of nerds, like, part of what makes a
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: good coach is he's willing to listen and get his
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: information from anyone. And one thing we don't value enough
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: just in general on a football team, we definitely talked
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  Speaker 1: about this with Sam Darnold. Is leadership and intangibles. An
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  Speaker 1: older veteran player to be around for players to look
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  Speaker 1: up to is extremely important. Like Puka Nakua, who clearly
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: kind of was going down a bad path by all accounts,
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  Speaker 1: and seeing some of the reports and even some of
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  Speaker 1: his press conferences, feels like he's making a conscious effort
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  Speaker 1: to be focused, straight and arrow, to basically try to
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  Speaker 1: live up to the guy that his parents raised. And
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: even he's admitted like I was starting to let people
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  Speaker 1: down and I got to turn this around. All he's
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  Speaker 1: got to do is look at DeVante Adams. Like the
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  Speaker 1: way DeVante works, the way DeVante is is a human being.
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  Speaker 1: You talk about a family man. I think he just
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  Speaker 1: had his third or fourth kid. Like, just follow that
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  Speaker 1: guy's lead. If you want to play for a long
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  Speaker 1: time in this league, you know, and the money that
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  Speaker 1: you're gonna make. DeVante's what in year thirteen, If you
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: play for thirteen years, Pooka, you will make hundreds of
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  Speaker 1: millions of dollars. And you bring in Cooper Cup to
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  Speaker 1: Seattle and even I thought, like, I don't know, that's
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: a lot of money to pay this guy as he
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: kind of over the hill, and then you're watching this
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  Speaker 1: he gets to the meeting room early, just with a
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  Speaker 1: bunch of young guys and just starts kind of talking
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  Speaker 1: to them about life and football and what to do.
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  Speaker 1: He's in Mike McDonald's office helping him decipher some offensive
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  Speaker 1: scheme that Mike can't figure out, and he clearly gives
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  Speaker 1: him the tip and then Mike is shocked. He's like,
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  Speaker 1: oh shit, you're right. And then he's in the quarterback
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  Speaker 1: meeting room countless times. And there's one moment in Hard
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  Speaker 1: Knocks where I think it's the quarterback coach looks at
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  Speaker 1: Cooper and goes, it is your responsibility to relay whatever
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  Speaker 1: the coaching point or played situation they're talking about to
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  Speaker 1: the rest of the guys in the room. Even JSN,
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  Speaker 1: who is now I don't know, one of the highest
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  Speaker 1: paid guys in the league, says, what this guy brings
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: to our building is invaluable. So if you can still
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: be productive, even if you're not what you once were,
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: your value in a locker room is extremely important. Do
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: you think Howie he just brings back Brandon Graham because
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: it's he thinks he's gonna give him fifteen sacks, of course,
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: not his value in that defensive line room, in that
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: defensive meeting room means a lot. And I don't think
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: we do a good enough job talking about that from
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: a leadership standpoint to a team building standpoint, having high character,
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: tough guys and people that understand football, people that have
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: a high football IQ. Some of the best players typically
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: are the smartest players. And I don't mean they had
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: four point zero GPAs in high school or college. I'm
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: sure some of them did, but when it comes to football,
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: they would be considered, like Albert Einstein, a genius. And
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: clearly Cooper Cupp's understanding of the sport having played for
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: a long period of time for Sean McVay and now
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: a year under Mike McDonald is. I mean, he's probably
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: non quarterback, sees the game as anyone in the NFL
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: on offense. And if you told me, like Cooper cup
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: had to call a game, you know as a player coach,
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: you know they got into a pinch and they just
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: gave him a headset. He probably could do it. And
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: it shows his value and how they understood signing him
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: last year makes a little more sense. It really does.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: So I'm a hard knocks hater enjoyed it. I also
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: I was thinking last night when they I've never been
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: to the practice facility up there. I've been to I've
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: been to the stadium for a Seahawks game, and I've
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: been there for a Washington football game the year when
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: Washington was like renovating their stadium, it would have been
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: like twenty twelve or twenty thirteen, and they played at
• 20:41
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• 20:45
  Speaker 1: watching the stadium thinking like they play on a lake
• 20:48
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• 20:50
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  Speaker 1: New Jersey, Ohio, Tennessee, Virginia. The forty nine Ers had
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: at least twenty players sideline today with injuries at today's practice.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: That's more than twenty percent of the of the ninety
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: man roster. I mean, is it's almost just I don't
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: even know what you say. You know, I don't even
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: know what you say, because there is no team that
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: every day you look up, it's like, who's it gonna be.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: Ues Check didn't break his finger because of the substation,
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: but he broke a finger and now he's out, you know,
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: I mean, that happens, and it just there is just
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: no stopping it. I don't even I think the one
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: thing Kyle's gonna have to at least contemplate in the
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: future is I respect and totally understand callousing your body
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: in these practices. But for whatever reason, the physicality the substation. Fuck,
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: I don't know, whatever's in the water. You lose more
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: guys than most of these teams. I'm not saying you
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: gotta do. Mike McCarthy, where everyone in the Pittsburgh Steelers
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: like this is insane. We used to tackle to the
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: ground and now we don't do anything. Jalen Warren was like,
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: this is the easiest practice I've ever seen in pat
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: I'm not expecting that, but whatever, however, they adapt on
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: a yearly basis because they're always talking about it. How
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: do we slow down the injuries? How do we put
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: not not even a pause to them, but at least
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: instead of hitting the accelerator button, just tap the brakes
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: a little bit and it doesn't end. It's nuts. Albert
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: Brier said yesterday that Aaron Donald is coming back, like
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: they are completely I don't want to say they're completely sure,
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: but it feels like inevitable at this point that Aaron
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: Donald will be officially an la RAM within the next
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: five or six days. And one thing I didn't even
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: know this. I guess they practice for the first couple
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: of weeks, maybe a dorm setting, just to kind of
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: build a little team cohesion and chemistry. I think at
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: Loyal and Merrymount. There's a million colleges down here. Obviously
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: there's UCLA and USC but there's Long Beach, Irvine, San Bernardino,
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: there's LMU, there's Pepperdine, So you got a bunch of options,
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: a bunch of campuses. I don't think any of these
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: people are back yet, so they've been at LMU and
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: they either leave Friday or Saturday to kind of come
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: back to their homes and practice the facility. And he
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: alluded to that Aaron Donald, whenever they leave LMU and
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: come back, more than likely that is when it becomes official. Well,
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: he wanted to like do kind of a final workout
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: and see what it felt like with a helmet on.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: He wasn't gonna wear shoulder pats. And I think because
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: Schefter said, because Aaron Donald wanted to do the workout
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: in the helmet and it was a RAMS helmet and
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: it was at the facility, they had to put on
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: the waiver wire. Because when you work guys out, Let's
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: say John Middlecoff's a free agent. If Jim Harbaugh called
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: me up and said, hey, John, we want to work
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: you out to see if we want to sign you
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: for training camp, Like okay, Jim, get the sled ready.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: So I go down there and I work out on
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: the waiver wire on a daily basis, like when you
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: put a guy on an IR, when you put a
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: guy on pup, when you take a guy off pump,
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: if you cut a player. The waiver wire during training
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: camp goes out every day. Well, if you work out
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: John Middlecoff for the Chargers, the Chargers would have to
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: say Chargers complete workout with John Middlecoff. So the Rams
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: today on the waiver wire clearly put worked out Aaron Donald,
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: which I would say is basically the bad signal of
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: the league. Like this thing is happening, which is pretty crazy.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: I mean it's and I don't even blame him. He's
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: been at home, I don't. I don't think I fall
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: him on Instagram, but I always get it in my
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: algorithm see these clips of him. You know, I think
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: Jared Vers used to always go over to his house
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: whatever his weight room. I don't know if it's his
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: house or is his like little gym that he built
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: wherever it may be. That guy is that guy has
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: not skipped a beat in the weight room. I think
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: the question is, as you get older, if you get
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: dinged up, if you pull a hamstring or whatever, does
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: your body respond? Like there is no doubt in my mind,
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: if he's one hundred percent healthy, he is going to
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: be an impact player. Now, when I think about Aaron
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: Donald in his prime, it just felt like he didn't
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: really have to come out of games. He had unlimited stamina.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: They're not gonna have to utilize him like that. I mean,
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: they have so many guys. Their defensive line was loaded
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: before they made the deal for Miles Garrett. So to me,
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: they can almost use him like some sweet reliever, you know.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: And in certain games he maybe instead of pitching one inning,
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: he pitches two innings, so is snaps instead of being
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: twenty go to thirty. But you're not gonna have to
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: ride him like they used to. And obviously in the
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: prime of his career, when you get a guy like
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: Reggie y jj Watt Von Miller, you ride them. This
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: is one of those situations. It's kind of like Michael
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: Strahan at the end of his career. Remember he'd kind
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: of like flirt with retiring, wouldn't show up to training camp.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: Don't blame him, didn't want to do it. And back
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: then the double days, you're like, I don't want to
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: do this. Well, they by the end of his career,
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: they had accumulated so many other defensive lineman he could
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: kind of just fit in and then I was it.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: The last year did he retire after they won the
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl? I think he might have The other story
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: I saw there are a couple other things. Vita Vea's agent.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: I don't see things ending in anything, in anything but
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: a trade. The Bucks aren't going to offer him a
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: long term contract. But if they don't, they're not just
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: going to trade him to trade them. But you can't
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: force my hand. You gotta trade me. Well, someone has
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: to offer me something. We talked about this yesterday. Because
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: of the way the comp picks work, and if Vavey
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: is healthy, the amount of money he would get on
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: the open market, they would get a third round comp pick.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: So I would be stunned if they, like, I don't
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: even think they would trade him straight up for a
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: third round pick. Maybe if it was a third round
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: pick that if he had whatever baseline production it kicks
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: up to a second round pick, it would be worth
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: it for them. But I think, like, you're gonna have
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: to trade like a second and a fourth to make
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: it worth their while to trade them, because they go, Okay,
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: you can hold in the entire camp, but once week
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: one starts, that's a million dollars a game, and half
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: our games are in Florida where you pay no state
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: income dex so that by itself, if you just do
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: the math, is probably an extra million dollars in your
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: own pocket. You're just not gonna play. I'm calling bullshit.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: So I wonder if they kind of do a standoff.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: But you're also kind of nervous that older player doesn't
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: practice type thing where you kind of get you know,
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: you pull something, you get hurt because you haven't you
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: haven't trained. The other story I saw, which seems a
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: little crazy to me, I read Albert Breer wrote this,
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: and or no. Dan Grasiano wrote this. I read this
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: ESPN article of like five six different training camps. As
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: some of their reporters went to is. He reported that
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: the Rams, like when they go international, they don't go
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: out there on like Tuesday or Wednesday and kind of
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: get acclimated and then play the game Sunday. They show
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: up like twenty four hours before. Now London is ahead
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: of us, however many hours if you're on the West coast,
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: it's obviously more than the East coast. I think it's
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: eight or nine or ten hours. Australia, their summers are winners.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: This game is not is being broadcast in America on
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: Thursday night. It is Friday morning in Australia. When you're
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: actually playing it. The Rams plan on essentially going the
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: day before, which I think is kind of nuts. So
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: the forty nine ers plan on going out there, I
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: think like seven or eight days early and get acclimated,
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: get accustomed to the time zone, which is dramatically different.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: I'll just look right now, I'm recording this at two
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: point fifty in the afternoon on when day it is
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: currently in Australia seven twenty in the morning. The Rams
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: are gonna be favored in that game in theory, on paper,
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: they should win. That to me feels a little risky.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: The day before the game is it like a fifteen
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: or sixteen hour flight. And one of the things Graziano
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: wrote about was they feel like they're good just riding
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: adrenaline on some of these road trips. That feels kind
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: of risky. Now, if it works, they'll be called genius.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: And if the forty nine ers can upset the Rams,
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: they'll be called geniuses for going out there, you know,
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: a week early. I just think it's much more Even
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: if you said, hey, they're going three days early, or
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: even two days to get acclimated a little bit. The
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: day before to Australia seems bold. John Harbaugh was not
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: happy with Jackson Dart who I guess they scored a
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: touchdown and they must have been down. It must have
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: been like a situation where you're down six you gotta
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: score to win the game. And then when they scored
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: or something happened, he maybe it was a field goal
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: wins the game. He threw the football at a defender's
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: face and Harbab made them gave him a fifteen yard
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: penalty instead of a thirty five yard extra point. It
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: turned into like a fifty yard extra point. Part of
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: the Jackson Dart package is like little reckless runs, a
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: little reckless, pretty cocky. It's a pretty good challenge for
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: John Harball because if you think about the two quarterbacks
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: he's used to Joe Flacco married his high school sweetheart,
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: pretty understated guy until the Quarterback Show. I don't even
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: know how many in the last couple of years when
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: he would do like random interviews, I don't really know
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: how many times I felt like I knew that much
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: about Joe Flacco. He's felt kind of like a quiet, understated,
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: low key guy. Honestly, probably pretty easy to coach. Now
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: he was nowhere near as talented as Lamar Jackson. I
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: would say Lamar Jackson kind of falls under that category
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: as well, pretty understated, like not giving a lot of
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: crazy cocky zingers at least throughout, especially in his young career.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: Early on. They just changed the offense for him. They've
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: changed the offense again. He just kind of adapts. One thing.
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: I give Lamar a lot of credit, pretty amendable to changes.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: Maybe I'm being Maybe Baltimore fans will be like, eh,
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: I puffed the brakes a little there, John. I feel
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: like they've changed the offense a bunch, They've had multiple
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: offensive coordinators, and Lamar just kind of adapts there through.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: I think Jackson Dart's going to be a little bit more.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: We don't even know if he's good, Like we definitely
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: know he's talented, good athlete, good arm, made some plays
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: last year. I'm bullish on him. He's the type guy
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: like has the physical traits I look for in a quarterback.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: But there are a lot of questions to just think.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: This is why I'm kind of hesitant on the Giants.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: There are a lot of things assumed about them and
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: all the reports the defense has kicked their ass, which
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: I do think we overreact and part of this is
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: social media that the sky is falling. Sometimes in some
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: of these training camps, guys, it's August fifth. They've worn
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: pads for like three days. So some of these, you know,
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: ten of the teams have brand new coaching staffs. Let's
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: pump the brakes, let's take a deep breath. But this one,
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: this one's gonna be something to keep an eye on.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: Carson Beck. When you're drafted not really high, there is
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: no guarantee that you'll ever get to play at quarterback.
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: There are a lot of guys drafted in the third
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: and fourth round. For every Dak Prescott and Kirk Cousins
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: and Russell Wilson that go on to become full time
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: starters and have long careers, there are a lot of
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: guys that never play and their only time is in
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: the preseason, and that is when you really make a
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: name for yourself. I remember a couple of years into
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo's career in New England. I remember on the
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: StairMaster at the gym and Walnut Creek watching NFL Network
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: because they used to kick off. You know, it must
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: have been like an afternoon workout. The game kicked off
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: for like four o'clock and going, god, Jimmy looks really good.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: It was I think his second year, maybe his third year.
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: It's like this, this guy looks like a real quarterback.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: But before that, like he wasn't playing. I think that
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: year because Tom had got suspended, we all knew he
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: was gonna play. Or maybe that was the next year.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: I kind of forget the timeline, But my point is
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: I remember being at a Raiders game Derek Carr's rookie year,
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: and he just made place in the preseason. It was like,
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: I think he got to play this guy and Brock
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: Purty did the same thing. He was so good in
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: the preseason and so good in the practices that as
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: a seventh round pick, he made the team and they
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: cut a guy who they had just given two million dollars,
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: Kyle Allen or at this point in time, I even
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: forget who the quarterback was, but he became the third
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: string quarterback. Now, usually when you're a third round pick,
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: you're kind of on scholarship. Even though I saw a
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: video the other day of like the net drill, you
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: know when you kind of scramble to your right or
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: like a seven step drop and you throw into that
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: net that has like a couple of squares, and you
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: know Rogers and Mason Rudolph and then Will Howard Drew
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: Alder missed not the hole in the net, the entire net.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: And the headline was like, I don't think I've ever
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: seen an NFL quarterback missed the net. And this wasn't
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: like a forty yard bomb. This is probably like a
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: ten to fifteen yard type route. You know where the
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: net was. Preseason four quarterbacks because all these other players
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: like you can make the team at these other positions.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: You can play special teams, you can get a specific
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: role as like even if you're the last defensive end
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: that dresses on game day, you might get ten pass
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: rushes throughout the game. You're the player you don't play
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: a quarterback. And I think these guys like these are
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: massive opportunities, and not even just this first Hall of
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: Fame game, but over the course of the next month,
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: a guy like Carson Beck and a bunch of these
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: quarterbacks Nus Myers, Drew Hollers, They're gonna get a lot
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: of snaps and it's gonna be It's It's not a
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: great environment, right, you have offensive linemens. Some won't be
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: in the NFL. Ever, you have a bunch of guys
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: on defense, especially the front, who are trying to make
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: a name for themselves. You know, sacks go a long way,
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: Big plays go a long way. Just making plays in
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: general go a long way. So we'll talk about maybe
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: the preseason next week, some of the dues and dots
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: what to look for. But I do know as a
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: quarterback that it's not even about the numbers or the touchdowns.
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: If the coaching staff thinks you can run the offense
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: at a high level, and it's honestly pretty basic when
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: the play call comes in, understand the play call, communicate
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: it to your guys if they have a check anything
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: you see at the line of scrimmage and you see
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: something that you're supposed to go the other way or
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: flip the play call. If you can handle some of
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: the basic shit that goes a long way with those guys,
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: stuff that we can't even tell on television. Remember last year,
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: Anthony Ridgson, everyone knew it was over when and all
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: these former players are like, this is like install day
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: one or day two. Stuff, An unblocked blitzer that was
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: coming from not his the side like his side that
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: he can see, and he never even looked and he
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: got destroyed and then his I think dislocated his finger.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: Bad news yesterday. Jalen Walker, who was just a complete
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: badass at Georgia, who was the falcons fifteenth overall pick,
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: who you know, had a relatively productive rookie year. You know,
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: James Pierce's back. Like those two guys. We James got
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: some off the field stuff that I guess somehow disappeared,
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: but we all saw it. Some question marks there, but
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: those that's pretty talented little one to two combination going
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: into their second year towards ACL just absolutely terrible. Uh,
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: Stefan Diggs. I don't know if it's official yet, but
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: Raps she put out that the Washington Commanders are going
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: to sign them, So I don't think you're signing Stefan
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: Diggs and Brandon Ayuk. Has anyone done more to hurt
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: their stock on social media posts in pro sports than
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: Brandon Ayuk. It's like, bro, if you just had never instagrammed,
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: you'd probably be fine and they would have held a
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: spot for you whenever the forty nine ers cut you.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: Which at this point in time, what's there what's their
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: incentive to do it. Yeah, well, let's do some mailback
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: questions and get out of here. A little midweek pod.
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: We've been We've been doing a lot of pods. A
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: Panthers fan here, This is from Josh. You may have
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: seen the news the Panthers are not yet ready to
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: talk to Bryce about an extension. And I think that's
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: a good call. It sounds like an adult has finally
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: entered the room. But here's my question. Even assuming Bryce
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: has another has a good year, wouldn't it still be
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: a huge mistake to sign him to a massive, long
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: term deal. Speaking as somebody who has watched every Bryce snap,
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: I think he's terrible, short week, zero swag, incredibly low ceiling. Jesus,
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: wouldn't a huge franchise quarterback deal for Bryce basically just
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: cripple our franchise for years to come. I've never understood this. Like,
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: think about employees in any line of work that get
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: taken care of. They're usually the cream of the crop.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: Someone's like, we can't let this guy go. Let's negotiate
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: with them, Let's keep him, let's give him a raise,
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: let's take care of him. Most people kind of are
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: on pins and needles out in football if you're obviously
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: the top quarterbacks, but even the next year Jared Goff,
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: Dak Prescott, Brock Purty, Jordan Love, Jalen hurts like, it's
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: kind of clear, like you're getting an extension and they
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: take care of you early. I don't understand why Bryce Young,
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: who was taking number one overall, so this isn't a
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: fourth round pick who's making a million dollars a year.
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: He sounded like a thirty five to forty million dollar
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: contract and they picked up his fifth year option, which
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: what's that number next year? Thirty million dollars? Is it
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: more than that? Because he the position he plays so
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: over the next the course of the next two years,
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: I'd have to google the exact amount. But he's making
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: a lot of money. Can we just play this out
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: and what's the worst case scenario. Well, he won the MVP,
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: so we had to give him a big contract. Okay,
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: that'd be great, but we just can't go eight to
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: nine and be like, well, you have some good games,
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: let's give him one hundred and seventy five million dollars guaranteed.
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: So I seems like a great kid. I've been a
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: huge fan of him since I remember reading about him
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: in high school. Loved him at Alabama. Listen, I thought,
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: I don't know what I was thinking, but I was like,
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: this guy's gonna be a good NFL quarterback. And then
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: you immediately saw him. I think during that preseason in
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: the in the uniform, you're like NFL quarterbacks, this guy's
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: too small. I remember having a buddy at the weigh
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: ins at the combine text me that he watched him
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: way in. I think when he weighed in he was
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: like two hundred pounds. He said, he looked like he
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: waddled up there essentially like he had eaten and drinking
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: so many smoothies and putting so much in his body
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: to manipulate that scale. That his normal weights like one
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: five and obviously he's five tennish and his arms average,
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: and he's not a good athlete, Like one thing I
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: can't really do is have an average to below average
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: arm and not have a really good athlete like Party
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: doesn't have a great arm, but he can move like.
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: That was my problem with Tua. It's like Tua is
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: not an athlete. There's no athletic ability there. I hope
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: you're enjoying La and the herd. I am. I get
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: I get smoothie delivered to me in the morning, I
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: get a sandwich delivered to me at lunchtime. He's kind
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: of nice to get treated well. I get treated well
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: at home with my wife. But it's just it's it's
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: it's it's fun long days. It's kind of a grind.
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: I was telling Maria, it's like he's a podcaster when
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: we get up early now with Jack. But when that
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: alarm goes off every single day at four thirty, it's
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: one thing. If you just get up early to go
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: to the gym or you know, go into your office
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: and do some stuff, it's another thing. I mean, this
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: meeting at the studio starts at six am, and Colin's
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: a high energy guy. So when he walks in and
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: we have him on the uh it's a screen so
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: we can see him and a couple of guys on
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: the screen, and then we have like a basically a
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: you know, like a long conference table with probably three
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: five six guys in there, and just takes and energy
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: starts flowing. So you can't just walk in there. I
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: couldn't just get up at five forty take a two
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: minute shower, the studios right around the corner, show up
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: and be kind of blurry, like I need to have coffee,
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: I need to I need to get going. So it's
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: by the time it's three o'clock. I feel like I've
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: been up a long time. Could the forty nine ers
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: move their practice field or would that be perceived as
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: a mission of guilt? Watching hard knocks and seeing their beautiful,
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: beautiful facility on the water and next to all these
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: trees and the fresh air. I was thinking, And I'm
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: sure the Rams have some beautiful practice facility down here.
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: I know the Chargers do just the open air, and
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: the niners are next to just Wi Fi waves, you know,
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: the substation and listen. It's more funny now than we
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: have like concrete evidence. But it is a joke that's
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: not going away. I don't think they could just next
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: like next week. They've moved it across town. Problem is
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: their facility, the locker room, everything's set up there. But
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: I just don't think this conversation is going away, especially
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: at the rate in kind of which we're going right
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: now when it comes to these injuries. But it clearly
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: isn't happening this year. Off season mailback question. Lol, what
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: would you say is the biggest challenge in your career.
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: I've hosted a lot of podcasts on my own and
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: I have my own business, and it feels like every
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: day there's a different challenge and you need to tackle.
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: It's super overwhelming at times. Wonder what your biggest challenges are.
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: I got fired from the Eagles and then from a
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: radio show. Before you know, I was twenty eight twenty
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: nine with the Eagles, and then four years later i've
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: been thirty two thirty three. And the way I grew up,
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: you know, my dad was a farmer, my mom worked
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: at the state capitol. If you just had someone got fired,
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: it would carry the connotation of like they're lazy, they
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: suck at their job, They're just kind of a loser.
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: That's the way I always thought about it as a kid.
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: Then you get into different lines of work and you're like,
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: that's it's not necessarily the case. You know, it's I
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: don't I didn't get fired because I didn't think you know,
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: work ethic, even production, but it just it's it can
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: really make you look in the mirror, right. So I
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: would say those two moments were life changing. I mean, immediately,
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: the feeling when you're I don't care who you are.
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: If even if you don't like her and she dumps
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: you before you dump her, it's kind of a kick
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: in the nuts, you know, it can it can hurt
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: the self esteem a little bit. We're human beings. So
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: even if the radio stations like this, by the end,
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: I was like this place, I couldn't stand it, But
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: I still didn't want to be told like, yeah, we're
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: canceling your show. That's now after a little time after
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: you kind of like really inspires you. You look back
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: like I'm glad that happened, But the day of the
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: week of you're not necessarily having those feelings immediately. And
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: I just think as you get older, you know, being
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: trying to be a better communicator. You know, I work
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: with a bunch of people. We're not necessarily in an
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: office together or over text message, being more direct questions
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: I have being just consciously think of those things. I'm
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: not always great at it, and also carries over to
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: my home life. But I would say, by far, the
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: most challenging thing that's ever happened in my life which
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: now impacts my career is Jack. I mean it's just focus,
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: the ability to like think of trying to be more
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: efficient with my time and during football season, which hasn't
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: even happened yet. It's gonna be interesting how that goes.
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: But I mean, people have been having baby since Caveman times,
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: so I'll figure it out. But that's the most challenging
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: thing that's ever happened in my life by far. You know,
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: I've had people pass away, parent close friends, been fired,
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: had to start multiple new careers. This is it's a
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: good challenge, but it's it's by far the hardest six
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: seven months of my life and I'm not even doing
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: the heavy lifting. How productive do you think Colston Lovelin
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: will be this season? He had a very strong end
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: of the year and a good playoff performance in his
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: second year. I think he could jump into a three
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: to five tight end range behind guys like Brock Bauers
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: and McBride. I think they're gonna build the offense, the
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: passing offense around Lovelin and Luther Burden. So we know
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: Caleb has a rapport with him, and we know Ben
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: Johnson thinks Luther Burden is the second coming of Jerry Rice.
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: So I would expect this year, the targets going those
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: two guys way to be extremely high. And yeah, I
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: don't see why Loveland couldn't be. Listen, this guy's going
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: to the Hall of Fame. But I'm just saying their
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: game like he's a Kelsey type player in my opinion,
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: just big time athlete, big time route runner, big time playmaker.
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: Ball in his hands, he can fly, big arm, quarterback
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: who can get him the ball in multiple places. By
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: everything I've always heard, like super high level guy clearly
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: already made huge impact plays as a rookie. I think
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: the offense will just get built around those two guys
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: in the passing game and obviously with Ben, they're gonna
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: be a heavy run team because it adds the physical
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: element and it just it slows down the game easier
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: on your defense too. I mean, they had moments last
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: year in that Niner game. Was it forty two to
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: thirty eight when the Niners beat him on Monday Night?
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: Both those teams when your defense is gonna have issues,
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: you like you need to slow down the game, like
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: you don't want to score in two plays if your
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: defense sucks. And one thing, I mean, we'll see their
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: defensive line, so Edwards came back today on Wednesday. But
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: like the Kobe Bryant injury, you know they're gonna be
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: pretty dependent on their dbs being good because they don't
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: exactly have you know, Max Crosby and Miles Garrett up front,
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: So Kobe Bryant, they draft the Oregon safety and Jalen
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: Johnson hopefully a year returning is just from the from
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: the growing injury, It's like they'd be pretty dependent on
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: be Like, we got one of the better dB rooms
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: in the in the league, right, so now we'll see.
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, who knows. They said eight to twelve weeks
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: worst case scenario. You're talking three months. That's not ideal.
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: But if Brian can come back in six, seven, eight weeks,
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: you know, early late September, early October, that they'd be
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: in pretty good shape. I mean, he's a really good
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: player and they gave him a lot of money because
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: of it. What are your expectations for the Packers on
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: offense specifically, had a couple receivers leave, Wicks traded and
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: Dobbs signed with the Pats, how are the rest of
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: the guys looking? Well, I haven't been a training camp,
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: so I don't necessarily know, I do think they're gonna be.
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: They gave Christian Watson a lot of money. I mean
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: that contract for a relative to his production and some
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: of the question marks were just his hamstrings. Was a
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: little shocking. But this gets back to certain coaches and
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: certain front off is just go all in on the guy,
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: and they have loved that guy. It feels like the
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: moment they got him, the playmaking and deep threat ability
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: that he brings to the table no different than the
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: Ben Johnson Luther Burden deal. When you have people that
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: completely believe in you like because that contract, let's face
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: it didn't feel like it made that much sense on
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: the outside, but inside they clearly feel pretty confident about it.
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: We talked about this earlier in the offseason. I forget
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: Matthew Golden stats last year. I don't think they were great,
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: you know last year, their passing offense in general, Like
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: he had twenty nine catches last year. To me, I
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: think they would like that number to be like sixty.
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: Seems like he's doing pretty well. Camp seems like, I mean,
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: they like it. I mean, he's a very talented player.
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: I remember when I went to the Red River game,
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: I remember looking at him warming up, thinking like, God,
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: this guy fucking looks spart. A question for the Dad diaries.
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: Me and my wife just had our second baby. We
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: got a twenty two month old and a one year old,
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: living that two under two life, godspeed. Uh. We had
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: a couple we used to go out with all the time.
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: We always got along great. They don't have kids, and
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: sometimes it sounds like they don't know if they want them.
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: Recently it seemed to get weird, like we have nothing
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: in common and nothing to talk about, which we kind
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: of don't. But you wouldn't think kids would change things
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: that much. I know you and Marie are newer parents,
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: but if you had a chance to go out with
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: a couple, have you experienced this at all? Or We
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: tried to go out for dinner just the two of
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: us the other night, and that the guy the kid
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: went nuts. I mean, he was just going bersork. I'm like,
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: this is why we don't go out. I just thinking general,
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: whether it's children. I mean, I have a lot of
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: friends with kids and it didn't necessarily impact my relationship.
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: But I think as you get older, I don't know
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: how old you are, like you should be kind of
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: always changing and evolving, and certain people in your life
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: that at one point in time you were close with,
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: whether it's children or not children, like you might not
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: have as much in common with them anymore for whatever reason,
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: because hopefully you're not the same person you were four
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: or five years ago. Like if you introduced me and
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: I was hanging out, like I guess we could go
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: play golf together, but like just as a human being,
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: what we're doing, Like I wouldn't have that much in
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: common with myself ten years ago. I started. I think
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: about that sometimes, and I think about some of the
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: people that I surrounded myself with that I might not.
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: Now that doesn't mean I still close. People have had
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: my life for twenty thirty forty years. Those people are
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: always going to be in your life. But like certain people,
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: for whatever reason, you just you might not align with,
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: whether that's because of your children, whether that's because of
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: your own personal life changes and growth, like you should
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: be always growing. I remember I wrote this down in
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: my little notepad on my phone that I try to keep,
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: like little nuggets of quotes I saw, and Warren Buffett
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: had a quote like your second half of your life
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: should by be your best by far because you should
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: be always improving, and then you have a wealth of
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: knowledge of things that you know work and don't work,
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: Like your growth as a person should get better with time.
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: Now doesn't mean like you're not gonna have tough times
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: or tough years or whatever. Like life shit happens. But
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: I've always been a believer of like life should continue
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: to get better. My life has continued over time to improve.
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: And if you know, I don't surround myself with that
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: many negative people, like if you're just constantly negative, like
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: I just I don't have the energy. So I think
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: it's understandable. But I think the kid thing, like some
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: of my good buddies had kids. They are now like
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: eight or nine years old, and I don't feel like
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: our relationships changed at all. But I'm not that needy
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: of a friend. One change would be is like if
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: you've got a couple of young kids, if you used
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: to go out with no kids with these people, you know,
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: ordering that extra round of cocktails and that extra bottle
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: of wine, you wouldn't even hesitate, And now you're thinking,
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: like I've already had two, I can't even it can't
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: even like cross my mind to think about waking up
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: with a pounding headache and kids screaming and crying and
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: needing attention at five point thirty in the morning. I
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: don't really think I've been hungover in the last six
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: months since he's been alive. Now, part of that is,
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: you know, we're working on being able to socially drink.
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: So it's always been a downfall of mine, much more
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: of a binge drinker. You know, some people, some of
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: you guys listening, we'll just can just have a cocktail
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: on like a Wednesday night, or just have a cocktail
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: or a beer like every night. I've never been that way.
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: Like I can go like I haven't had a drink
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: in a month, right, but then all of a sudden,
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: I go out back to back nights. It's like, how
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: many cocktails you have? So I we're working on that,
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: Like can I just go out and socially have a
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: couple tequila sotis? And maybe it's like, oh, just have
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: a dight coke too, or a water. I've really tried
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: to change that way, And a huge part of it
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: is like as I got older, my hangovers are just brutal,
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, and one thing I despise is that feeling
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: of not being able to do anything, to want to
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: think if it's like Sunday, but the way my life
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: is like could just be like a Friday, and all
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: of a sudden, it's like, I'm just I can't function
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: in life today. When you're young, it doesn't matter as
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: you get older, your forties. She started thinking, like, how
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: many days do I have left on this planet? Am
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: I gonna waste them being hungover? Some of you guys
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: get lucky. You don't even get hangovers. A common take
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: you and Colin have hammered is the drafts will continue
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: to get worse moving forward, especially in the later rounds.
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: Your reasoning is more players will elect to go back
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: to college for NIL money rather than declare for the draft.
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: I don't get that logic. Sure, that could be an
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: issue for the first few years of the NIL era,
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: but eventually those players will have to declare, and the
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: number of draft prospects will bunch up and say year
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: four or five. From that point, it will be conveyor
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: belt of players feeding the NFL on a five or
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: six year interval in rather than three or four. But
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: the aggregate number of prospects won't change because for every
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: traditional draft prospect that goes back to college, you'll get
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: a fifth to six year senior prospect that's out of eligibility.
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: That has to declare. The idea that the number of
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: draftable players will decline moving forward because of nil just
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: simply isn't true. I see what you're saying on the aggregate.
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: Eventually you get kicked out of college, right, you can't
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: play forever. So if you're a draft eligible guy. If
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: I'm a guy that's a red shirt junior and I
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: in the old days, I could have been a third
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: round pick, maybe I would have gone I've already graduated.
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: Maybe I played it like Michigan, or I played it,
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: you know, Oregon. I just would have gone to the NFL.
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: Well now, Texas or Oregon or Ohio State or Michigan.
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: They're like, you could just stay here for a guaranteed
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: one point five million dollars as the starting linebacker, as
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: the star wide receiver, and instead of just going to
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: the NFL right now and being pick seventy eight, I
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: go back. So every single year you're gonna have guys
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: early entry guys. It's if you're Jeremiah Smith, right, or
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: Sunny Styles or guy that's gonna go in the top ten, okay,
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: but a lot of early entrant guys would go somewhere
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: from twenty I don't know through the first couple rounds. Well, now,
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: if I'm told I'm not a lock first rounder and
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: i can make millions in college, I just stay in college.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: And that happens every single year. Now, that guy inevitably
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: comes to the draft. But if that guy continues to
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: play in college, maybe a stock drops. Maybe he doesn't
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: go as high as he once was. So maybe once
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: that guy does declare, he's not viewed as the same
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: level prospect. Because I'm not to think about how all
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: these guys will turn out once they're in the NFL.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: I'm just talking about the crop pre draft. So it's
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: like a rotation. You're right. Eventually every guy that is
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: draft that is going to be forced to go to
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: the draft at one point in time in their career
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: because they're eligibility ins. But it can keep rotating year
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: in and year out. I mean, we just saw it
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: last year with Dante Moore, who I don't have no
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: clue how good of a pro he would have been.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: If he would have came out, you probably would have
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: said Jets or the Browns or whatever, it could get weird.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: But if it's like, bro, you're gonna go in the
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: top five that can't has always come out. There is
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: a small percentage of guys that haven't come out in
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: his situation. But everyone kind of understood. It's like, well,
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: he could have gone to the Browns or let's just
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: play it back another year and make five, six, seven
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: million dollars playing for Oregon that they might win the
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: national championship. It's not as crazy, but he wasn't alone.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: There were other guys that did that as well. And
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: I just think it's gonna keep. It's gonna keep. I
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: would say, just it's gonna just have a smaller pool
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: on a yearly basis of guys that would have come
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: out consistently. But over the course of ten years, those
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: guys will inevitably or I guess eventually they can't avoid it.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: They can't just go back to Ohio State for ten
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: straight years. I hear what you're saying, but like next year,
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: the same thing will happen. A bunch of guys that
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: could have been drafted in the second, third, fourth round
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: will just return to school and I don't blame them
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: at all. College is pretty fun when you're a star
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: player making millions of dollars as a former scout. Do
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: you think that Malachi Tony will be good in the NFL?
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: There aren't many good five to ten wide receivers in
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: the league. Well, I think I saw did Jalen Waddle
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: get hurt today that he's five nine and a half
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: and he was what six overall pick? Got a big contract.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: So we'll have to see how Tony's bought. This is
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: the Miami Star wide receiver. But I think Jalen Wattle,
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's a perfect comp as a player,
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: but I think he's five nine and a half. He
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: measured the combine, so you're talking about five nine and
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: a half five to ten. I don't know exactly how
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: tall Tony is, but let's just say he's five to
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: ten even. I would say that would be somewhat of
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: a comp. A versatile chess piece, good route runner, explosive
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: player can basically hit you short, intermediate, deep, get the
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: ball in his hands, make shit happen. I mean, fuck, look,
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: Wattle's playmaker. Imagine if Waddle the last like five years
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: had been with the Bills or the Chiefs. I think
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: we talked about him a little bit. I mean, he's
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: already good, but sometimes you fly under the radar when
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: you're on a bad team. Uh. I'm I'm an incoming
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: college sophomore and I'm studying sports management. I'm working part time,
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: and I'm also coaching football and basketball im my high school.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: I currently plan on entering the sports industry by teaching
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: p at the high school and coaching on the side too.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: My goal is to work up to be an athletic
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: director or something more administrative eventually. However, I have concerns
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: that if I were to branch off into the sports
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: industry and land a job truly engulfed in the business,
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: that I'll lose my love for sports as a fan.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: When you work in the NFL, do you ever feel
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: yourself get burnout on sports at all? Also, do you
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: have any advice for networking in college or general tips
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: for my situation. I think most of the things that
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: we do for a living we get burned out on.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: I think it's a natural human reaction. So if you're
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: lucky enough to do something that you love to do,
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: the advantage is not that you love it twenty four
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: to seven, three sixty five. The advantages that on days
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: when you're just not really feeling it, it's still like, hey,
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: this still beats doing all these other things that I
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: was able to avoid because I chose doing this as
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: a profession. But yeah, I mean there are days when
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: you just don't feel like I mean, i'd be lying
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: to you. I have an incredible what I get to
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: do for a job. I feel extremely fortunate, even if
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: I fucking created this all this luck twenty five years
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: ago by doing a bunch of stuff to put myself
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: in position. So it's not it's not like it just
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: randomly fell on my lap. That being said, like there
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: are days I get to talk about football for a living.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: I can pay a mortgage, I can support a family.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: My dad was a tomato farmer, you know. I mean
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: I I sometimes Thursday Night football it's like I'm not
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: really in the mood to watch and then talk about
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: this game. But it's like I still get to watch
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: and talk about the game, you know, So I yeah,
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: I mean there are gonna be days, definitely when you
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: worked in football it's like I do not want to
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: talk or to think about football. I just think that
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: comes with the territory no matter what you do. I
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: truly believe that, and I think the advantage, like I said,
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: is just it just helps you push a little bit farther,
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: because even deep down when you're having those miserable days,
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: you still kind of like it in some weird form
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: or fashion. So I would always recommend following stuff that
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: you enjoy doing for a profession. It'll make life a
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: little bit easier. I'll end on this because I got
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: a bunch of dms on stuff I talked yesterday about
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts. I just want to state for the record,
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: I did not rank them seventeen. I'd probably have them
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: like fourteen fifteen range. But once you're out of the
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: top half of the league, what was the NFL coaches
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: and NFL gms that had that ranking. I just reacted
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: to the ranking, and I do think it's fair. If
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: you're paying a guy fifty million dollars and the league
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: views him as the seventeenth best quarterback, that's a problem.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: So I just heard your take on Jalen hurtsb being
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: ranked seventeen on Sandal's tier, comparing him to Russell Wilson,
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: arguing that none of his OC's got head coaching gigs,
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: But you didn't mention the ones that got or guys
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: that got fired. You didn't mention the one that got
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: head coaching gigs. True, that was unfair. Shane Seichin and
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: Kellen Moore became head coaches. Hurts played well in both
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: Super Bowls, and a lot of commenters forget that in
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: twenty four while Barkley had a monster season and playoff run,
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: he was mostly held in check in the Super Bowl.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: All this to say, what more does Jalen Hurts need
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: to do to prove to the world that when he
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: has a capable offensive coordinator, he can be a top
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: ten or twelve quarterback. There is no disputing that he
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: has had stretches where he's been a top ten quarterback,
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: had really high level games in big spots, including the
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl and including playoff games. But what we witnessed
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: last year like he's clearly extremely dependent on the offense
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: and the offensive play caller. And last year, one of
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: the stories that came out in the offseason was like,
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: he's got a lot of ideas and thoughts as well
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: that don't necessarily work. And here here's my one issue
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: with him. His running is one of his superpowers. Like
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: Josh Allen still scrambles around and makes it happen with
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: his feet. Like Jalen won't run anymore. I do think
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: the parallels with Russell. Like you said, guys have been
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: fired on his watch, they've also become head coaching not
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: just candidate, but they landed jobs and both of them
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: are still head coaches in the league. More than fair,
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: more than fair. But if he's not gonna run anymore,
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: like I just don't think he'll ever sniff being a
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: top ten quarterback anymore. If I get the dual threat,
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: then he has a chance to be really good. Like
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: when he has played some of his best football, it's
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: him running around. I think of some of the big
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: playoff games he's had, he made huge plays with his feet.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: Last year against the forty nine ers, they had dudes
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: off the couch playing linebacker. Their defensive line was not
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: only last in the league in sacks, a bunch of
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: guys that most people couldn't point out of a lineup
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: he should have with his eyes closed, he could have
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: rushed for one hundred yards, but they wouldn't really call
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: run plays for him. I would have ran like the
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: option every played with him in sakuon Barkley. It would
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: have looked like Nebraska in the early nineties. So if
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: he if he refuses to run, moving forward and listen,
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: I'm not asking him to run like off tackle quarterback power,
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: but just quarterback keeper, some quarterback sweeps, worst case scenario,
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: gets out of bounds like one of his skills. He's
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: a great deep ball thrower, kind of playmaker. In the
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: rhythm of the offense, it can look very chaotic and
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: just kind of like a cluster fuck, right as all
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: those three and outs last year. Now he has some
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: big spots where they had a bunch of drops, but
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: like he can always bail them out with his legs.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: I think sometimes we look at that like, ah, it's
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: just he's trying to erase that part of his game.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: I don't know why you would do that. It's not
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: like he's forty years old. He's in great shape always.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: So to me, it's a lot of question marks coming.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: They're gonna run a new offense. No one can dispute
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: his resume. More than likely the group of guys that
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: he's kind of typically clustered with right golf Dak Purdy,
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield, Sam Darnold, kind of that crew of guys
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: right from eight to fourteen Range Jordan Love. None of
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: those guys probably ever. I mean, there's a decent chance
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: none of them ever win Super Bowl, So he'll always
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: have that. It's what are we talking about the pastor
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: we're talking about the future, Like if you put Mahomes
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: at one, we have to be I love Patrick Mahomes.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: I have thoroughly enjoyed watching a guy in a day
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: and age when a lot of guys don't get it
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: done or don't come to play in the biggest moments,
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: just get it done in the biggest moments. Over the
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: course of his crew, it has been a joy to
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: watch Patrick Mahomes play football. That being said, twenty twenty five,
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: he just didn't play that well. So if he's number
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: one on all these lists, it's based on his resume,
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: which is better than everyone in the NFL, which we
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: all agree, but Josh Allen was objectively better than him
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: last year. Honestly, I don't even think it was close.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: So I think sometimes these lists it's more let's just
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: fuck the list and let's just talk about the player
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: that when you're paying a guy fifty one million dollars.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: If you're not gonna throw me thirty five to forty touchdowns, well,
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: if you could do some other stuff, let's do some
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: of the other stuff. Hell the tush push, which is
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: not necessarily his fault, but once their offensive line is
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: not as good anymore kind of stopped working, which is crazy.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: It felt like an inevitable play. It no longer is
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: a couple times last year, like they didn't even go
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: to it because like, h not even worth it. So listen,
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: he's gonna He's one of the most polarizing guys in
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: the league and he will continue to be polarizing because
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: one the media market Philly to the amount of money
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: he's making. And three, like coming off a bad year,
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: he just is we all acknowledge that. And it ended
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: really really poorly. And they just revamped the entire offense,
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: the entire staff, and not like running his Jalen Hurts
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: Philly offense like they scrapped it. They're running a brand
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: new offense. I'm fascinated to watch if it works well.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: End on that one audiose godspeed, talk to you guys
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  Speaker 1: tomorrow for Guysy Friday. The volume