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Zack Moss on day 1 of Camp Scalley, How does a star RB approach having an inexperienced OL (?) + more · The Sean O'Connell Show

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  Speaker 1: He's not Sean O'Connell's show. You were home of the
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  Speaker 2: Let's get back to oc from the Murdoch Chevrolet Studio
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  Speaker 2: of ESPN seven hundred ninety two to one. Alf m
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  Speaker 2: all right, Morgan Scally addressed the media for the first
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  Speaker 2: time in fall camp after practice this morning. You can
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  Speaker 2: find that sound now on ESPN seven hundred sports dot Com.
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  Speaker 2: Shout out to our guy Porter Larson for being up
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  Speaker 2: there at practice. It was right when we were on
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  Speaker 2: the air, so James Nori could get up there to
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  Speaker 2: do it. But we're talking Utah football here on your
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  Speaker 2: home of the Utes with the legendary Utes. Zach Moss
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  Speaker 2: all everything running back in his years at the University
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  Speaker 2: of Utah. NFL veteran Zach Moss, Welcome to the show.
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  Speaker 1: How are you good?
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  Speaker 3: How you doing? Man? I appreciate you me one.
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  Speaker 2: I appreciate you giving us some time and a little
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  Speaker 2: bit of your expertise here. I want to pick your
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  Speaker 2: brain about how to run behind five new starters on
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  Speaker 2: the offensive line, because that's what way Shaun Parker is
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  Speaker 2: going to have to do, That's what Daniel Bray is
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  Speaker 2: going to have to do. When you're you're heading into
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  Speaker 2: a situation where you even have to replace a couple
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  Speaker 2: of starters, it can get interesting. As a running back,
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  Speaker 2: what can they do to help out this offensive line?
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  Speaker 1: Whoever those five starters are.
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  Speaker 3: I think, you know, the main thing is just you know,
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  Speaker 3: building a connection with those guys. You know, obviously Bray
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  Speaker 3: and Parker playing as much as they did last year
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  Speaker 3: and playing with some really good guys on the front.
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  Speaker 3: You know, just kind of lean and give some of
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  Speaker 3: the experience at date we're able to gain last year
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  Speaker 3: and try to just continue to communicate and connect with
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  Speaker 3: those guys so that way, you know, they can kind
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  Speaker 3: of start seeing the field as fast as they can't,
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  Speaker 3: you know, with it being the first time getting as
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  Speaker 3: much playtime and being count on the way they want
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  Speaker 3: to be counted on this season.
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  Speaker 2: So obviously you had really prolific years at the University
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  Speaker 2: of Utah, and there's always a debate whether or not
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  Speaker 2: you want to have a bell cow back or you
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  Speaker 2: can do this by committee. And I already mentioned Wasshawn
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  Speaker 2: and Daniel Bray. You got Chaves Soto coming in, There's
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  Speaker 2: Hunter Andrews is going to be part of the run game. Obviously,
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  Speaker 2: you've got Devin and Byrd who are both going to
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  Speaker 2: be part of the run game as well. You had
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  Speaker 2: Tyler Huntley, right, you had DeVonta Henry Cole, you had
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  Speaker 2: armand shine. There was always like a sidekick or two
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  Speaker 2: that could help maybe spell you, maybe get you back
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  Speaker 2: in rhythm, keep get you out of rhythm.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: You tell me when it's when it's your mostly your
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  Speaker 2: load to carry, and I think that is going to
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  Speaker 2: be the case for was Seawan Parker.
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  Speaker 1: What are you looking for from those other guys?
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  Speaker 2: What are you hoping to see when it's not you
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  Speaker 2: getting the ball and when you're not given the opportunity
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  Speaker 2: to carry it? What what do you need to see
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  Speaker 2: from the running back to running back three?
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  Speaker 3: I think the main thing is always consistency, you know
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  Speaker 3: from you know, my time, my experience obviously in college
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  Speaker 3: and in the pros. You know, when you're that second guy,
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  Speaker 3: h the main thing you want to do when you
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  Speaker 3: come in is have no drop off, right, so that
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  Speaker 3: way the number one guy feels like you can you know,
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  Speaker 3: give you a lot of snaps and preserve his body
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  Speaker 3: because that only helps the team. So you know, those
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  Speaker 3: guys who are going to be contributing in the ring
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  Speaker 3: game this season. Obviously they'll do it in a lot
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  Speaker 3: of different ways, but it's about being consistent.
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  Speaker 1: That's the main thing.
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  Speaker 3: You know, where the guys can trust you, your teammates
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  Speaker 3: can trust you, and in the coaches contrust so they
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  Speaker 3: can put you in positions to make those plays. And
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  Speaker 3: I think, you know, with Bray last year, we got
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  Speaker 3: some new guys in that's going to you know, come
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  Speaker 3: in and you know, hopefully prove themselves and things of
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  Speaker 3: that nature. You know, I think they'll be able to
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  Speaker 3: do that. The coaching staff and putting them in great
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  Speaker 3: position to make those plays.
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  Speaker 1: What was the ideal playing weight for Zach Moss.
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  Speaker 3: And Commons was about two fifteen NFL that it's about
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  Speaker 3: two to twenty.
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  Speaker 2: Five, Okay, Yeah, How much of an adjustment is you
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  Speaker 2: know that ten or ten or so pounds for running back?
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  Speaker 2: Because we talked with way Sean about this at at
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  Speaker 2: Media Days, and you know, he's he's added some weight
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  Speaker 2: and then he's tried to get a little bit leaner.
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  Speaker 1: How much does it change the way you're able to run?
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  Speaker 2: Or I mean, because ten pounds for a guy with
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  Speaker 2: that much muscle doesn't seem like it would be a lot,
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  Speaker 2: but you fill me in.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, depends on how you train yourself and how you
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  Speaker 3: put the muscle on. I think that's the biggest thing,
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  Speaker 3: you know. For me, it was about continue to stay explosive.
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  Speaker 3: So even with the adders weight you train, you know,
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  Speaker 3: twice as hard to continue to be exposive and keep
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  Speaker 3: your speed a lotteral quickness and things like that. So
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  Speaker 3: you know, as long as you still have that, it
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  Speaker 3: almost doesn't even feel like a big difference. So I
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  Speaker 3: think as long as he was able to do that,
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  Speaker 3: that'll be the main thing when I look at it.
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  Speaker 2: Zach Moss is our guest here on the Sean O'Connell show,
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  Speaker 2: former Utah running back, former NFL running back, talking about
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  Speaker 2: camp opening. One of the things that we've been debating
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  Speaker 2: and it's all speculation at this point because it's a
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  Speaker 2: new offensive coordinator, it's a bunch of different bodies.
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  Speaker 1: Is dividing up the touches, right?
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  Speaker 2: How do you keep everybody happy when you have a
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  Speaker 2: lot of individuals that we think at least are going
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  Speaker 2: to be effective weapons. You played on some very talented teams,
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  Speaker 2: like I already mentioned you had a quarterback who was
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  Speaker 2: dual threat. You had some really good tight ends, You
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  Speaker 2: had some threatening receivers. You had guys in the receiver
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  Speaker 2: room that could also take the end rounds and they
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  Speaker 2: could run the ball. Well, you have Britain Covey who
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  Speaker 2: could do basically anything on a football field. Was there
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  Speaker 2: ever a time for any of those teams you played
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  Speaker 2: for where uh, you know, guys were unhappy with the
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  Speaker 2: touches or the coaches felt like they had to make
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  Speaker 2: adjustments so they could keep people in rhythm or anything
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  Speaker 2: like that, because you gotta spread there's only one football
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  Speaker 2: to spread around, as you well know, how do you
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  Speaker 2: keep the right balance when you have a bunch of
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  Speaker 2: talented players?
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  Speaker 3: I think, you know, the main thing is the locker room.
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  Speaker 3: Having a really good locker room. You know, the best
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  Speaker 3: teams always coincide with having a really good locker room,
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  Speaker 3: which leads to having really good people and having really
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  Speaker 3: good leadership. So, like you said, like you know, all
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  Speaker 3: those guys that I played with, you know, all those
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  Speaker 3: guys were unselfish. You know, the main thing was how
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  Speaker 3: do we win games right? How do we process and
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  Speaker 3: positions to uh, you know win as many games as
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  Speaker 3: we can so we can get to wherever we wanted
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  Speaker 3: to get to. And you know, this team this season,
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  Speaker 3: they seem like they had that last year for sure,
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  Speaker 3: just from everything I can see in the media. So
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  Speaker 3: you bring it back a lot of those guys, yes,
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  Speaker 3: you do some guys, but you have a lot of
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  Speaker 3: those guys that carry it over. A lot of those guys. Uh,
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  Speaker 3: you know, you pour that into the guys who are
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  Speaker 3: going to be stepping up on both sides of the
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  Speaker 3: ball and special teams. You know, that's the main thing.
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  Speaker 3: So I don't think they are going to have an
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  Speaker 3: issue with that. You know, that more so leans on
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  Speaker 3: the offensive coaching staff on how they are going to
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  Speaker 3: you know, get the ball into each guy's hands, what
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  Speaker 3: game plan makes sense for dis opponent matchups, and things
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  Speaker 3: of that nature. So you know, that's a it's a
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  Speaker 3: good thing to have a lot of talent. Sometimes it
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  Speaker 3: can be a bad thing too, But I got the
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  Speaker 3: most faith that this this coaching staff will you know,
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  Speaker 3: be able to get the most out of each and
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  Speaker 3: every guy when it's the opportunities.
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  Speaker 2: What do you think the most noticeable difference with you
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  Speaker 2: tough football is going to be now that Kyle Whittingham
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  Speaker 2: is not there and Morgan Scalley has taken over. Obviously,
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  Speaker 2: those guys work together for almost twenty years. Coach Wit
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  Speaker 2: coached Morgan Scalley and was his main mentor in preparing
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  Speaker 2: him for this opportunity as a first time head coach.
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  Speaker 2: So I think there's gonna be a lot of similarities.
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  Speaker 2: We've seen some things change already, but nothing overly drastic.
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  Speaker 3: Yet.
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  Speaker 1: Once we get halfway.
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  Speaker 2: Through the season or through a full season, what do
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  Speaker 2: you think will be the most noticeable difference between Morgan
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  Speaker 2: Scalley's version of Utah football and what we saw for
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  Speaker 2: twenty one years with Kyle Whittingham.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it does a hard question, honestly, I just
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  Speaker 3: I really don't know what it's going to be outright different.
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  Speaker 3: I think the culture is going to be very similar,
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  Speaker 3: you know, because obviously, like you said, Coach Gotty played
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  Speaker 3: in that coach for Coach Wig for all those years,
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  Speaker 3: so you know that's part of his DNA. You know.
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  Speaker 3: I think one thing that I would hope will change
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  Speaker 3: is the type of passing game that we have. Right
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  Speaker 3: I think we'll be able to start seeing, you know,
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  Speaker 3: differences in it it'll take a few years, but depending
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  Speaker 3: on how we recruit quarterbacks, how we recruit wide receivers,
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  Speaker 3: and how hard we go there to you know, kind
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  Speaker 3: of get up the speed officially with everybody. When it
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  Speaker 3: comes to the passing game, We've always been a really
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  Speaker 3: good run, run the ball first, and played great defence
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  Speaker 3: behind that. But now the league, you know, it's football.
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  Speaker 3: It's a lot different now. So you know, we got
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  Speaker 3: some really great offensive minds and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 1: So I think that would be the biggest.
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  Speaker 3: Difference is you know, and I think Scaley has said
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  Speaker 3: it before, right, the creativity and the offense of passing game,
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  Speaker 3: and you know, allow on some of those supposed to
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  Speaker 3: play because that allows the defense to also play a
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  Speaker 3: little bit more freely when you have an offense that
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  Speaker 3: you believe can go down the field, score in five
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  Speaker 3: for five, sixth place.
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  Speaker 2: As a guy who just missed the nil era, right,
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  Speaker 2: what's it like talking to the guys now, How different
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  Speaker 2: is their decision making process, their priorities then than so
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  Speaker 2: because you're the same age category, right, But they're they're
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  Speaker 2: living in a different world than you and your teammates did.
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  Speaker 2: They're they're dealing with an open transfer portal they're dealing with,
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  Speaker 2: you know, the ability to maximize name, image and likeness, uh,
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  Speaker 2: to legally get money all that kind of stuff. And
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  Speaker 2: so there's not a generation gap between you and the
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  Speaker 2: guys that are making this money now, but there is
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  Speaker 2: a rules gap between what you were allowed to capitalize
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  Speaker 2: on in them. So is there a big difference when
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  Speaker 2: you have an opportunity to get close around the guys.
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  Speaker 3: It's a difference for sure. Uh. You know, I think
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  Speaker 3: a lot of the guys that are you know, in
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  Speaker 3: it right now, you know, they're trying to make the
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  Speaker 3: most out of it. So you know, I'm one of
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  Speaker 3: the players. Like I said, I missed it by a
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  Speaker 3: year or two whatever it was there, but I was
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  Speaker 3: very happy, you know that the guys are able to
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  Speaker 3: make you know, money off of their names and things
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  Speaker 3: of that nature. So I think right now, everybody you
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  Speaker 3: know on these teams currently the last two or three
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  Speaker 3: years that I've been around, to some degree, they're just
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  Speaker 3: trying to make a name for themselves, right. I think
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  Speaker 3: the hard part is when you're when I'm around like
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  Speaker 3: the high school kids, you know what I mean. And
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  Speaker 3: I started seeing and hearing conversations and parents as well. Right,
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  Speaker 3: it's almost as if you know, for me, it was
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  Speaker 3: always NFL or nothing, Right, it was a different type
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  Speaker 3: of commitment level versus now these kids almost just want
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  Speaker 3: to get to college, right, because you can make so
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  Speaker 3: much money. A lot of these kids make more money
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  Speaker 3: in college NFL players who can play you know, five
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  Speaker 3: six years, depending on what type of contribution level they
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  Speaker 3: have to their teams. They're not a big contract guy,
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  Speaker 3: and they just kind of you know, practice squad and
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  Speaker 3: year by year kind of make the cut, right, Like
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  Speaker 3: you can play eight years for a fat minimum, right
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  Speaker 3: and get cut that in half, and you do a
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  Speaker 3: lot of stuff with that. Right. Some of these kids
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  Speaker 3: can make two million dollars in one year, right, depending
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  Speaker 3: on their talent level, school and things of that nature.
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  Speaker 3: So I love it that they're able to you know, capitalize,
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  Speaker 3: because that's the other side of it as well.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 3: It's like, just because you play college football for three years,
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  Speaker 3: four years, you could be a starter for three four years,
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  Speaker 3: doesn't guarantee that you're going to go to the NFL
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  Speaker 3: and make it to a second contract and play a
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  Speaker 3: limpsy career. First of all, And who say you don't
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  Speaker 3: get hurt in your third season in college. You have
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  Speaker 3: a career any injury. But look, now you've made a
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  Speaker 3: lot of money instead of having to scramble right as
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  Speaker 3: someone whose dreams got cut off. So there's a lot
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  Speaker 3: of different outlooks you can have there. But you know me,
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  Speaker 3: I just am happy that you know they're able to
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  Speaker 3: make the money and hopefully they can kind of get
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  Speaker 3: it to somewhat of a control so that way, you know,
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  Speaker 3: everybody can benefit correctly.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting to see all this like legislation that
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  Speaker 2: people are trying to push forward, and can you compete
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  Speaker 2: or can you not compete? Does your school have the
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  Speaker 2: resources to make sure yes you share and yes you
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  Speaker 2: pay players, but also that you can you know, keep
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  Speaker 2: the rest of the athletic department healthy. It's a really
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  Speaker 2: fascinating time and it keeps changing so rapidly. I can't
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  Speaker 2: imagine what it's like to be a player or a
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  Speaker 2: coach in this landscape. But of course all that goes
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  Speaker 2: away when it's time to put on the pads and practice, right,
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  Speaker 2: all that contract stuff and all that conversation fades into
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  Speaker 2: the background when you're playing football. When you're back in
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  Speaker 2: in practice and you're back in camp, and give me
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  Speaker 2: camp started today for the youths, as you're well aware,
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  Speaker 2: give me your your best and your worst memory of
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  Speaker 2: Utah Football camp.
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  Speaker 3: Worst memory would definitely have to be, you know, my
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  Speaker 3: first camp. You know, didn't have had no idea what
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  Speaker 3: to expect, what it was going to look like, what
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  Speaker 3: it was going to be, and all the six am workouts,
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  Speaker 3: six am wake ups even on the off days, right,
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  Speaker 3: you got to put your body in the best positions
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  Speaker 3: to you know, feel your best. And that's hard when
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  Speaker 3: you come fresh out of high school and you don't
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  Speaker 3: really have that type of a routine, which I definitely
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  Speaker 3: did not have at that time. So that was probably
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  Speaker 3: the hardest, was the wake up part. And it just
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  Speaker 3: shows you how much you actually care and love this
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  Speaker 3: game that you're you want to play in things of
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  Speaker 3: that nature. Best things with you know, obviously, the best
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  Speaker 3: part about football outside of you know, scoring touchdowns and
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  Speaker 3: make a highlight places and things of that nature is
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  Speaker 3: the guys, you know, the locker room, the time you
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  Speaker 3: spend with those people, the bonds you make, and things
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  Speaker 3: of that nature. So that was the best part for
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  Speaker 3: me for sure, was you know, being around the guys
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  Speaker 3: is you know, it's two three weeks of just uninterrupted
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  Speaker 3: everything is off, is all ball, and you can't ask
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  Speaker 3: for nothing more than that. So, you know, I think,
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  Speaker 3: you know, it goes by fast. That's the thing that
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  Speaker 3: truly does hold up that it does go by fast.
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  Speaker 3: So you know, I think the main thing is for
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  Speaker 3: the guys to just you know, be in the moment, appreciate,
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  Speaker 3: you know, what they're doing right now, because you never
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  Speaker 3: know how long you get to do it, and you
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  Speaker 3: know it's a blessing that you get to do it
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  Speaker 3: and things of that nature. So just try to be
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  Speaker 3: in the moment as much as you can and enjoy
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  Speaker 3: everything that's going on.
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  Speaker 1: All right, hypothetical hypothetical for you.
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  Speaker 2: Let's pretend you're back in the Utah football uniform and
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  Speaker 2: you could choose to have one of these seasons.
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  Speaker 1: All right.
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  Speaker 2: You can have a season with one hundred carries for
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  Speaker 2: four hundred yards, but you score eleven touchdowns. Or or
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  Speaker 2: you can have two hundred carries for twelve hundred yards
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  Speaker 2: but you score five touchdowns.
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  Speaker 1: Which one you gonna take?
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  Speaker 3: Uh, that's pretty good. I probably would go with the
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  Speaker 3: two hundred carries that just means, you know, most likely
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  Speaker 3: we're throwing the ball pretty good, and you know we're
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  Speaker 3: winning some games being explosive and things of that nature
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  Speaker 3: from that part of it.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't go with that, all right.
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  Speaker 2: So more yards, fewer touchdowns is okay with you, as
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  Speaker 2: long as you got to carry the ball more.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, as long as getting carried the ball, and as
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  Speaker 3: long as somebody else is scoring, that's the win, right.
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  Speaker 3: As long as someone else is scorning too, that means
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  Speaker 3: the past game is hopefully driving.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Zach, appreciate your time and your expertise.
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  Speaker 3: Man.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll be seeing you around this season. Thank you. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: absolutely appreciate you. Guys. Zach Moss.
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  Speaker 2: Little bird tells me you're gonna see a little more
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  Speaker 2: of him in and around Utah football this coming season.
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  Speaker 2: So what that looks like to be determined, But I
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  Speaker 2: think you're gonna get one of the all time greats
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: in the program back closer to the program with regularity
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: in this coming season.