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Speaker 1: So today's episode is our Pride episode. Although Pride is
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Speaker 1: always every day, we don't need a specific month to
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Speaker 1: celebrate pride or acknowledge Pride. We figure we might as well,
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Speaker 1: especially since you know we are bisexual podcast hosts. Yeah
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Speaker 1: you know, fitting never actually done like a Pride month episode.
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Speaker 1: So I was like, Mala, we need to give it
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Speaker 1: to the fans. We need to give the episode to
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Speaker 1: our listeners and remind some of y'all in case you
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Speaker 1: have forgotten or maybe you didn't know, because we really
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Speaker 1: haven't done an episode on this. Um is on our
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Speaker 1: own queer identity and just overall history on Pride. We're
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Speaker 1: Pride is today and some of our favorite queer icons,
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Speaker 1: either current fictional maybe who we have crushes on and
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Speaker 1: we were little all of that. So this is gonna
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Speaker 1: be a fun episode. Um, it's gonna be We're gonna
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Speaker 1: dive into different topics, so let's get into it. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: you know, we in our our history as a podcast
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Speaker 1: have never really been able we I don't know what.
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Speaker 1: It hasn't been our thing to keep up with like
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Speaker 1: the months and like the holidays and like that. You know,
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Speaker 1: we have a different sort of calendar when it comes
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Speaker 1: to the content that we put out. But I think
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Speaker 1: we're gonna try right to like do more like beamed
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Speaker 1: episodes that have to do with like the time of year,
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Speaker 1: you know, and like these the heritage months and things
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Speaker 1: like that. So and make it personal, right and like
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Speaker 1: and and and make it us. But yeah, I'm excited. Um.
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Speaker 1: I think that I don't always talk as much about
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Speaker 1: my queer identity because I'm not completely totally out with
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Speaker 1: my family, you know what I mean. I'm not trying
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Speaker 1: to kill my grandma, like not me. If somebody else,
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Speaker 1: like if someone else would like to reveal something about themselves,
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Speaker 1: like they can do that, I can wait, I really can. Like.
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Speaker 1: But so we're doing it here. We are chatting about
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Speaker 1: it because when it comes to like my internet and
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Speaker 1: my art and things like that, I'm much more open.
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Speaker 1: Also because my family could not find my podcast, like
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Speaker 1: if I literally paid them, like it's been it's been years.
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Speaker 1: Your dad. Sometimes it's still a vlog, it's a blog,
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Speaker 1: it's a blog. We're chill, We're safe. I think that
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Speaker 1: that's a good reminder to folks that, like, um, sometimes
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Speaker 1: I think we want creators or podcasters to be like
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Speaker 1: super visible about certain things, and sometimes we just can't
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Speaker 1: for lots of reasons, right, And that's like one reason
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Speaker 1: why I know I've been very conscious of not to
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Speaker 1: like outwardly be like, well, this is a queer podcast,
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Speaker 1: this is a queer lead podcast, because I know that
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Speaker 1: Mama isn't entirely out to everybody, and she doesn't have
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Speaker 1: to be right, And so that's also why we're more
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Speaker 1: selective with the language that we do use, right, and
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Speaker 1: we respect that, And I think that that's an experience
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Speaker 1: that a lot of folks can relate to. And they're
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Speaker 1: not out on social media. They're not out to their
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Speaker 1: friends and family yet, or maybe they are, because you know,
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Speaker 1: everyone is on the spectrum in some way true, oh truly,
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Speaker 1: the way that again, the way that everyone's gay. It's fine,
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Speaker 1: like we can start there, but I will say, oh
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Speaker 1: my god, I don't think I've told you this because
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Speaker 1: I just so freaking funny, dude, so you know, we
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Speaker 1: had We've had many events in the past before the pandemic.
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Speaker 1: We've thrown look at That Alive a podcast party, We've
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Speaker 1: done pop ups, we've we've done all kinds of things.
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Speaker 1: We've hosted events, and our families have come to our
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Speaker 1: events and come to our parties and come to our nightlife.
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Speaker 1: Our parties are always super femine, super queer, like they
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Speaker 1: are because that's our fan base and so like, you know,
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Speaker 1: that's the community. So everybody shows up their fabulous selves,
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Speaker 1: you know, dress the way that they dress, and dancing
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Speaker 1: the way that they dance, and like loving the way
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Speaker 1: that they love, which is like what we love. But
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Speaker 1: my family noticed, you know, they noticed, like they noticed
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Speaker 1: at one of our parties. It was at the Paramount
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Speaker 1: at the last look at the look at That I
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Speaker 1: Live a podcast party, and my Grandma Natcha was like
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Speaker 1: was there. My Grandma Naca was there, and my mom
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Speaker 1: was there, and you know, my mom is a little
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Speaker 1: more discreeched, a little more subtle, but my Grandma's just
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Speaker 1: gonna say whatever she's noticing and whatever is on her mind.
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Speaker 1: So my Grandma nat chat and she'll bring it up
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Speaker 1: sometimes even now and it's been a couple of years now,
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Speaker 1: she's like, oh, like just less bianest, like you know,
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Speaker 1: and the Lesbiana s Lesbiana. It's like, I'm you know,
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Speaker 1: and I'm like, I mean yeah there were or literally
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Speaker 1: where that isn't astute observation? Are we connecting dots? Can
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Speaker 1: we connect dots? Now? Do I need to connect the dots?
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Speaker 1: Or I mean maybe that was her way of connecting it,
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Speaker 1: like she's telling you, I know, without telling you, because
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Speaker 1: if she's multiple times like maybe she's like I see
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Speaker 1: something here, but I'm I'm gonna wait for you to
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Speaker 1: either confirm or deny, and of course you're not going
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Speaker 1: to do neither. Yeah, yeah, yeah, well because this is
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Speaker 1: how it is. This is how it is. It's like
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Speaker 1: it's like so and so came out as gay and
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Speaker 1: it's like he's like not you two. So I'm like
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Speaker 1: it's and this is the thing is like there's nothing
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Speaker 1: that's like outwardly vindictive or homophobic or hateful or hurtful.
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Speaker 1: It's just you know, it is what it is, and
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Speaker 1: I know what it is. And I like my peace
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Speaker 1: me personally, I like my peace. I was gonna say, like,
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Speaker 1: of course we don't want to deal with like homophobia
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Speaker 1: or misogyny or any of those things. But sometimes it's
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Speaker 1: like meeting people where they're at, and I think that
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Speaker 1: that's one way we do that, right, Um, And when
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Speaker 1: I think about it, I probably don't talk to my
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Speaker 1: family about my dating life at all at all, at all,
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Speaker 1: like in general, like they don't know when I'm going
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Speaker 1: on dates or who I'm going on dates with, and
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Speaker 1: they really don't ask me, and there's much of it
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Speaker 1: is just again there's this this chastity in this this
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Speaker 1: this like silence around dating and sexuality. But there is
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Speaker 1: also the expectation that somehow a husband be conjured. Up right,
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Speaker 1: how to find said husband? I gotta go out, I
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Speaker 1: have to be in the streets, dude, constantly actively. But
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Speaker 1: that's the part that there's a there's a gap there, right,
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Speaker 1: They don't really want to hear about it, you know,
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Speaker 1: it kind of makes sense and I don't necessarily want
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Speaker 1: to share because if you ask me about who I'm
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Speaker 1: dating today, it's some dude. It's just some sucking dude.
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Speaker 1: They're all just some dude until they become someone important, right,
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Speaker 1: So why are you going to ask me? And then
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Speaker 1: you're gonna ask me, oh, well, how was it? Did
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Speaker 1: you have fun? You're going to see them again? What's
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Speaker 1: their name? It's too much information. So I don't even
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Speaker 1: share about the men. Why am I going to share
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Speaker 1: about the women? You know? Kind of that's the space
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Speaker 1: I'm sort of also in just private. No, I completely
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Speaker 1: get that. I I yeah, I hear that. I hear that.
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Speaker 1: Dating when you're surrounded by family. I think it is
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Speaker 1: annoying and complicated and hard, and there's there's like so
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Speaker 1: many layers to it, right if you throw in like sexuality, um,
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Speaker 1: and the gender uh, and then the roles that we
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Speaker 1: are put on us as women, right and that the
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Speaker 1: gender roles will expect to fulfill and we have to
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Speaker 1: be home by a sort of hour, and it's just
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Speaker 1: a mess. That's just all around. It is it really is.
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Speaker 1: And you've been dating and navigating your own queer relationship
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Speaker 1: and sexuality at home, but in a very different way, yeah,
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Speaker 1: pretty openly for over ten years now, um, and so
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Speaker 1: that has been quite the experience. And um, I have
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Speaker 1: been I don't like to say I've been out. I'm
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Speaker 1: like I was forced out. My mom like went through
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Speaker 1: my phone when I was about to turn sixteen, and
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Speaker 1: so that's how she discovered that I had a girlfriend,
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Speaker 1: and it was the whole thing. And so I was
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Speaker 1: definitely not ready to be quote out, but it is
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Speaker 1: what it is. And so that was kind of my
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Speaker 1: trajectory into being out in my at least with my parents.
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Speaker 1: And so yeah, it's just been like a journey of dating.
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Speaker 1: And I will say, like everyone seriously that I've dated,
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Speaker 1: right has been very much involved in my family, and
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Speaker 1: so it's it's definitely it's the complete opposite. I think
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Speaker 1: of what you shared right where it's like when I had,
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Speaker 1: you know, my girlfriend from undergrad, Um, she was very
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Speaker 1: involved in my family. And so then when there's a breakup,
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Speaker 1: you know, it's like the family breaks up and it's
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Speaker 1: it sucks and it's awkward, and then you move on
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Speaker 1: and then it's like, oh, but what about this person?
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Speaker 1: And and so yeah, I definitely think like keeping the
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Speaker 1: separation is important and then not bringing folks around until
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Speaker 1: like you really know or you're really ready. Um. And
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Speaker 1: so when I started dating my current partner, I like,
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Speaker 1: you like, okay, like if I'm bringing this full around,
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Speaker 1: like it has to be because he's going to be
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Speaker 1: around for a while. Um, and it had that's been
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Speaker 1: the case. Um. But I also think that that allowed
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Speaker 1: or forced my parents and I to have a conversation
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Speaker 1: about bisexuality that maybe I wasn't prepared to have when
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Speaker 1: I did start dating said partner of almost four years
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Speaker 1: ago now because they were confused. They were so confused,
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Speaker 1: I like, will never forget when my dad was like,
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Speaker 1: cheek us, and that's correct, that's true, and I was
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Speaker 1: thinking that was my response to him, and um, and
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Speaker 1: so then, you know, ever since, I'm still navigating those
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Speaker 1: conversations and I like, well, remind my mom like every
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Speaker 1: now and then, like I'm not saying I'm going to
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Speaker 1: break up with this person, but if I were to
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Speaker 1: break up with them, or if there were to be
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Speaker 1: a breakup, right, um, I could potentially date a woman
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Speaker 1: in the future. And I need you to be aware
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Speaker 1: of that. Like it's not just like a switch, you know.
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Speaker 1: And so I think having to confront that by phobia
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Speaker 1: in my extended family, my own internalized by phobia of
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Speaker 1: like not even wanting to be out as a bisexual
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Speaker 1: for years, I refused. I was like, I am a lesbian,
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Speaker 1: that is it. I was like, so like not willing
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Speaker 1: to budge on that identity until I literally had to
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Speaker 1: because I could not deny like that, I wanted to
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Speaker 1: explore who I was, and so I spent my early
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Speaker 1: twenties doing that. And you know, it's led me to
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Speaker 1: be with a man as sis heado man, which I
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Speaker 1: think has also may me take a step back, a
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Speaker 1: very conscious step back from lots of queer conversations, because
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Speaker 1: I am in a perceived heteral relationship and so that's
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Speaker 1: where I'm at, and I think I've kind of been
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Speaker 1: like playing with that or thinking about that, or like,
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Speaker 1: is this just me being like biophobic to myself, like
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Speaker 1: that I'm separating myself from community, and so I think
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Speaker 1: that's why for me, it was important this year that
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Speaker 1: we did do like an episode because I'm like, wait, no,
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Speaker 1: Like I deserve to be in community too. Like doesn't
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Speaker 1: mean I have to bring my man around, but I
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Speaker 1: still deserve like queer friends and queer spaces, bit of
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Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, I think that we are extremely conscient
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Speaker 1: that it took us what five seasons to put out
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Speaker 1: our first episode about like being queer, you know, and
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Speaker 1: like there's tons of reasons and like we already dressed
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Speaker 1: know that we try to bring guests when we can
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Speaker 1: to discuss all kinds of topics that we can't speak to,
21:42
Speaker 1: but we want to support, we want to uplift that
21:44
Speaker 1: whole thing. And um, you know, I think that we're
21:49
Speaker 1: like in a really interesting time when it comes to Pride,
21:53
Speaker 1: because at least Pride months, I think now like as
21:57
Speaker 1: queer people, as like or like a queer community at
21:59
Speaker 1: least if you're on the more like progressive like radical side. Um,
22:03
Speaker 1: you see, like the way companies have really corporatized off
22:07
Speaker 1: of this month, right, how many companies do you see
22:11
Speaker 1: have their little like rainbow logo for the month, but
22:14
Speaker 1: are still contributing to politicians campaigns that are actively campaigning
22:19
Speaker 1: against like human rights, like that are actively campaigning against
22:25
Speaker 1: the benefit and livelihood of queer folks, right bills that
22:29
Speaker 1: are will affect queer and trans people, especially trans women
22:32
Speaker 1: of color. So there's there's so much there, And I
22:35
Speaker 1: think that that's also another reason, yeah, totally. Um, just
22:41
Speaker 1: in the same way, we're also not necessarily even going
22:44
Speaker 1: to center ourselves in Latin X conversations. Listen, y'all, we're
22:50
Speaker 1: very aware of the privileges we have. We can always
22:53
Speaker 1: do better in many ways. But I think like, yeah,
22:57
Speaker 1: we we don't like to send ourselves in lots of convos. Yeah,
23:00
Speaker 1: I mean in like the identity based conversation specifically right now,
23:06
Speaker 1: I think that that where we have found our footing
23:09
Speaker 1: is like where our strengths are, which is our creativity
23:12
Speaker 1: and what we do. We podcast, We are producers. We
23:17
Speaker 1: produce podcasts and media and short films, and we write
23:22
Speaker 1: and that's where we shine, and so that's what we
23:25
Speaker 1: like to talk about. And um, we like to bring
23:28
Speaker 1: people on the show who are also talking about their
23:32
Speaker 1: creativity and what they do and like their talents and
23:36
Speaker 1: skill sets, like their creat you know, what are they
23:39
Speaker 1: innovating on? And it just so happens that they tend
23:43
Speaker 1: to be women of color, of various experiences, you know.
23:47
Speaker 1: So I feel like that's been are the way that
23:51
Speaker 1: we've yes, that's the way that we've we've made space
23:54
Speaker 1: for ourselves is like we just happened to be these
23:57
Speaker 1: people doing this thing and doing it really really well.
24:00
Speaker 1: And I think if you relate and you find yourself
24:03
Speaker 1: in it or something in it, that's sucking dope. But
24:06
Speaker 1: we're not elected officials, you know what I mean. Like
24:10
Speaker 1: the representation stuff I think is very now like to us,
24:16
Speaker 1: it's very to us. It's very it's what are we doing?
24:21
Speaker 1: You know? Um right, it's not just like Latinas doing podcasting.
24:27
Speaker 1: It's podcasters that are Latinas that are innovating the space,
24:31
Speaker 1: the industry, you know, Like it's an addition to who
24:34
Speaker 1: we are, it's not the only thing that we are.
24:37
Speaker 1: And I think that representation politics are a trap, right,
24:43
Speaker 1: and I think it can put us on this pedestal
24:45
Speaker 1: that we don't want to be on. And I love
24:48
Speaker 1: hearing that folks can see themselves in us, and there
24:52
Speaker 1: were representation for like, you know, maybe their experiences, but
24:57
Speaker 1: we're not like representations of the entire community. Yeah, you know,
25:00
Speaker 1: I never claimed to be that. We never will be
25:02
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, yeah, no, sorry, that's about us. He agrees.
25:08
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, this's not this bitch. Don't don't put
25:11
Speaker 1: all your hopes and dreams and community aspirations on this
25:15
Speaker 1: bitch over here, right, you know, like we're here to
25:19
Speaker 1: make podcasts. We are here to make art. We are
25:22
Speaker 1: here to tell stories, we are here to create media.
25:25
Speaker 1: We're here to produce. Um. And that's what we do.
25:28
Speaker 1: And more and more it's going to turn into like
25:30
Speaker 1: different types of art, types of production and scripted stuff
25:36
Speaker 1: and fictional stuff and dramas and comedies and we'd content
25:40
Speaker 1: and you know, um, and I want to allow us
25:44
Speaker 1: that space and that freedom. You know. Yes, I think
25:49
Speaker 1: that arts should be freedom. It should be freeing, it
25:52
Speaker 1: should be liberating. And you know, speaking of I wanted
25:57
Speaker 1: to ask you, because I can think of like so
25:59
Speaker 1: many people, I wanted to ask you, growing up, did
26:03
Speaker 1: you have because we are talking about representation, right, um,
26:07
Speaker 1: growing up, did you have like a queer crush or
26:12
Speaker 1: like your first awakening and like who is that person
26:15
Speaker 1: that like insided that in you. It doesn't have to
26:18
Speaker 1: be like a real person you knew like it could
26:20
Speaker 1: be in media, you know, you don't have to telling
26:23
Speaker 1: yourself or anything. Sure, um man, this is so interesting
26:29
Speaker 1: because I feel like there were so many like not
26:35
Speaker 1: only like TV shows, movies like actresses, but also cartoons
26:41
Speaker 1: that growing up, we had so many like uh like
26:45
Speaker 1: girl lad female lad shows and movies and and you know,
26:50
Speaker 1: there was a lot of media just with like girls,
26:52
Speaker 1: you know, being main characters and obviously loving all of
26:57
Speaker 1: that because girl power and stuff, but also loving it
27:00
Speaker 1: because they were hot and cute and I loved them,
27:03
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, So anywhere from like Okay,
27:07
Speaker 1: this is random, but remember as told by Ginger, Yeah,
27:11
Speaker 1: if I loved Ginger, that is so cute. But also
27:18
Speaker 1: like you know, um, Lilo and Stitch, Lilo's sister, Yes,
27:25
Speaker 1: what's her name? I think, so so hot, so fine.
27:29
Speaker 1: I had not thought about that, but you're right Atlantis, Atlantis, Yes,
27:35
Speaker 1: the woman beautiful, yes, whoever she whatever her name was.
27:40
Speaker 1: I mean, there's it's gonna be a lot of cartoons
27:44
Speaker 1: to begin with, okay, but also I mean, oh my god,
27:49
Speaker 1: I feel like I loved who else did I love? Well?
27:53
Speaker 1: They were also I feel like there was also like
27:56
Speaker 1: you know, I grew up also watching like The Bird
28:00
Speaker 1: Cage and like Too Wong Food and so not just
28:04
Speaker 1: like queer icons that I had crushes on, but like
28:06
Speaker 1: also like I was watching and enjoying like queer movies
28:12
Speaker 1: you know, um with my mom, and also watching like
28:16
Speaker 1: Turner classic movies. There's like you know, so that was
28:20
Speaker 1: also fun for me. I enjoyed that. So I knew
28:23
Speaker 1: that I had an appreciation for queerness as far as like, okay,
28:28
Speaker 1: the movies, the drag, the storylines, like everything is wonderful,
28:32
Speaker 1: you know um. But then I think it wasn't until
28:36
Speaker 1: later that I was like, oh, but I also I
28:38
Speaker 1: am queer because I also don't just like these girls
28:43
Speaker 1: and these women like I think they're like awesome and
28:46
Speaker 1: I want to date them, you know what I mean? Yeah,
28:50
Speaker 1: I would say that that was my Yeah. I think
28:52
Speaker 1: being a queer woman is like a constant question of
28:55
Speaker 1: like do I want to be you or do I
28:57
Speaker 1: want to date you? You know, And I constantly, well
29:01
Speaker 1: not constantly, but I have found myself asking myself that,
29:04
Speaker 1: you know, over the years, like can I try it
29:06
Speaker 1: to this person or do I want to be them?
29:08
Speaker 1: You know, um, because sometimes there's there's something that captivates
29:11
Speaker 1: you right about someone, um, and so you're asking yourself
29:15
Speaker 1: that question exactly. Miranda from Lizzie McGuire. Do I just
29:21
Speaker 1: really relate to Miranda? Or do I think Miranda is
29:24
Speaker 1: like so cute and cool? And do I want to
29:26
Speaker 1: hold her hand? You know what I mean? I can't tell. Yeah, Okay,
29:30
Speaker 1: Speaking of cartoons, um Megra from Hercules, Yes, she was
29:37
Speaker 1: a battie. She was a battie. She was a battye.
29:41
Speaker 1: She was a batty. Also in um Uh is it
29:45
Speaker 1: the Emperor's New Groove, there's like a really cute character
29:50
Speaker 1: who wears like she has long hair, she has bangs, like,
29:55
Speaker 1: there's like a cute little two piece outfit, real hervy.
30:01
Speaker 1: It's a South American cartoon. Is that the ambers New Groove?
30:05
Speaker 1: Or is that Atlantis? Are they both in the same movie?
30:09
Speaker 1: The Girl in the Blue who's from the from Atlantis?
30:13
Speaker 1: And then there's like no, no, no. In Atlantis, there
30:15
Speaker 1: was another cute one who was like the sassy latina,
30:19
Speaker 1: but she wore a little hat, she had short hair.
30:22
Speaker 1: Oh yes, yes, yes, she was like an engineer. She
30:24
Speaker 1: was also hot. She was also super cute. Also loved her.
30:28
Speaker 1: So there was so many No, but I think I
30:32
Speaker 1: want to say, if it's not the Emperor, the Road
30:34
Speaker 1: to Eldorado, she was. That's the one I was thinking,
30:38
Speaker 1: the road who had got it? Got it? She had
30:41
Speaker 1: the blump things that she had, her cute little like
30:43
Speaker 1: she had like a two piece. Yes, yes, let's see
30:46
Speaker 1: all these cartoon girls, these hotties. I end up. I
30:50
Speaker 1: ended up. I end up emulating them. I think in
30:52
Speaker 1: my in my style and how I dress. So it
30:55
Speaker 1: goes back to do I want to beat them or
30:58
Speaker 1: do I want to date them? Became them, but I
31:00
Speaker 1: still want to date them both. Yes, I want to
31:03
Speaker 1: date myself. When people ask me what's your type, I
31:05
Speaker 1: say bad bitches. I'm like girls, I look like me.
31:10
Speaker 1: It was so funny because somebody was like, so, when
31:12
Speaker 1: are you and MoMA going to start dating? And my
31:14
Speaker 1: response was no, I'm too small for MoMA. Friends were
31:21
Speaker 1: business partners. She's my home or is my sister? No,
31:24
Speaker 1: I'm not her dying. That's very funny, right, I will
31:30
Speaker 1: say this. Yeah, I know, you're right. We are a
31:35
Speaker 1: purely platonic friendship. We just truly are we just truly
31:41
Speaker 1: as much as people want to make it happen, it's
31:44
Speaker 1: not going to happen. It's not the case. Yeah, it's not.
31:47
Speaker 1: But we will live in the fantasy. Yes, we will
31:50
Speaker 1: will deliver the fantasy. Because we're artists. We can deliver
31:54
Speaker 1: a fantasy. You know, we know what you guys are thinking.
31:57
Speaker 1: We know what you guys, and we know you don't
32:00
Speaker 1: think we know. Yes, it's true, we do know. We
32:05
Speaker 1: do know. Well everybody. On that note, we just want
32:09
Speaker 1: to remind you support your favorite queer trends q POC
32:15
Speaker 1: creators all year round, not just Pride Month. And remember
32:19
Speaker 1: that Pride started as a political uprising in nineteen nine
32:25
Speaker 1: UM and it was a resistance. It was an act
32:27
Speaker 1: of resistance. And so you know, just it's important that
32:29
Speaker 1: we remember our history, our queer history, and that we're
32:32
Speaker 1: rooted in that, and we also archive what we're doing,
32:37
Speaker 1: our work, because while we have lost a lot of
32:40
Speaker 1: our queer ancestors for many different reasons, one being the
32:44
Speaker 1: AIDS pandemic now endemic. There was things have gotten lost
32:50
Speaker 1: and so it's really important that we archive, that we document,
32:53
Speaker 1: and that we show people that we were here and
32:55
Speaker 1: they're queer elders exist. You know. Also one of the
32:58
Speaker 1: mind folks Mismade her. She was a prominent activists of
33:03
Speaker 1: that time as well, and she recently had a baby.
33:05
Speaker 1: She's like with her partner, and she's in her late
33:08
Speaker 1: seventies and she's like literally walking history. So like, remember
33:13
Speaker 1: to uplift queer transfolks all year round and also pay
33:16
Speaker 1: respect to your elder as they've been doing it for
33:18
Speaker 1: a lot longer than we have and that a lot
33:20
Speaker 1: of us have. So on that note, happy Pride month,
33:24
Speaker 1: Let's do the ship all year round. Yes, happy Pride
33:27
Speaker 1: and even I don't know if if Bambi se say
33:30
Speaker 1: though identifies as an elder, if she would be mad
33:32
Speaker 1: if we labeled her that. But I think that she's
33:34
Speaker 1: a queer elder. You know, there's a lot, there's quite
33:36
Speaker 1: a few who are very and who are and who
33:39
Speaker 1: are very active and like online, who are are you know,
33:43
Speaker 1: out there invisible maybe like a contemporary like I think
33:47
Speaker 1: of Raquel Willis as like a contemporary like activists, she is,
33:52
Speaker 1: like she someone I see as will be an elder
33:56
Speaker 1: you know, Um, yeah, I think of Janet Mark Liver,
34:00
Speaker 1: our dear friend cast of Pose, the cast post, I
34:03
Speaker 1: mean our dear friends at the Gumaton Collective. Now that
34:05
Speaker 1: we're talking about peers and contemporaries, you know, all the
34:09
Speaker 1: folks at Theatone Collective and m We've had Julio Slado
34:13
Speaker 1: on the podcast. We will have DJ Sizzle Fantastic on
34:16
Speaker 1: the podcast. We actually, Surprise Surprise, just wrapped up an
34:19
Speaker 1: interview with Sizzle, so you can expect to hear that
34:23
Speaker 1: in the coming weeks. Um. Yeah, just go through the
34:28
Speaker 1: look at the canon and you will find all of
34:31
Speaker 1: our contemporaries. Yes, um, there are some queer elders that
34:34
Speaker 1: I've been wanting to interview for a while now, and
34:37
Speaker 1: so you know, hopefully that's something we can work on
34:39
Speaker 1: this season, if not for its own project as well,
34:42
Speaker 1: because documentation archival work is really important to us, and
34:47
Speaker 1: that's that's one way that we can make sure that
34:49
Speaker 1: Fox remember we were here. Yeah. Oh, Bay Davis recently
34:53
Speaker 1: had to write up in the l like a front pager.
34:57
Speaker 1: It looks like with the Mongus picture. Shout out by Davis,
35:01
Speaker 1: shout out by Davis who is glowing and killing it
35:04
Speaker 1: all over the place. So yeah, it's been you know,
35:08
Speaker 1: it's been a weird Pride month just because of what's
35:11
Speaker 1: going on in the world and globally. Um, there's been
35:15
Speaker 1: a lot of interesting chatter about Pride month online and
35:18
Speaker 1: about Kink and King get Pride and pride Speaking of
35:24
Speaker 1: queer there's so much that we have learned from the
35:28
Speaker 1: King community, and you need to put respect on their names. Okay, yeah,
35:34
Speaker 1: where would we be without kink? Where would I be
35:37
Speaker 1: without King? We love King, We are kinky, you know
35:43
Speaker 1: what you mean? So I mean something that I learned
35:46
Speaker 1: this month because of this conversation of no King at
35:50
Speaker 1: Pride was that it was folks in the King community
35:54
Speaker 1: that did a lot of the caregiving for folks that
35:56
Speaker 1: we're living with HIV and AIDS. So not only they
36:01
Speaker 1: do they deserve respect, but they are literally fundament That
36:04
Speaker 1: community specifically is like fundamental and an important integral part
36:08
Speaker 1: of our community history. Uh. And so if you're new
36:13
Speaker 1: to queer history, like start what's your basics? Like everybody's
36:17
Speaker 1: got to learn somewhere, um, but just remember where we've
36:21
Speaker 1: been and like it helps us to shape where we're
36:24
Speaker 1: going facts, facts, facts, sex, especially as we see history
36:29
Speaker 1: really does repeat itself, and especially when it comes to
36:31
Speaker 1: things like policy and human rights, because at any given moment,
36:36
Speaker 1: they and you know that they, you know who the
36:39
Speaker 1: they is, they are actively constantly trying to dismantle and
36:44
Speaker 1: undo all of our civil rights, um and bodily autonomy
36:49
Speaker 1: and ownership of ourselves and our decisions as women, as
36:54
Speaker 1: Latin X people, as queer people, as people of color,
36:58
Speaker 1: all of the above, the whole thing, right, So just
37:00
Speaker 1: as people, and if we know like how it's worked
37:05
Speaker 1: before and why we're at where we're at, we can
37:08
Speaker 1: also like see the signs and see when they're doing
37:10
Speaker 1: it again and see when they're they're actively trying to
37:14
Speaker 1: function up even more than it already is. So yeah,
37:17
Speaker 1: thank you guys for listening. This has been a lovely,
37:20
Speaker 1: lovely episode. I think we have some thank yous right
37:25
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