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Speaker 1: Starting right now.
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Speaker 2: It's a wheto Panay Show. Good evening and welcome to
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Speaker 2: the Rita Panekey Show. Coming up tonight, Farmers intensify their
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Speaker 2: protest against renewable projects. My panel will cover that and
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Speaker 2: the day's other top headlines. The NAB warns that rents
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Speaker 2: could soar by as much as thirty percent over the
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Speaker 2: next two years. Property expert Kate Bakos will join the program.
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Speaker 2: Kosher Gaida will have the latest from the US, including
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Speaker 2: Bombshow revelations about a Democrat congressman involved in an illicit
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Speaker 2: relationship with a Chinese spy, and Leftist women raise over
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Speaker 2: eight hundred thousand dollars for a mother who admits to
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Speaker 2: killing her three children. Alex Stein will have the latest
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Speaker 2: on that and Left Is Losing. It features an academic
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Speaker 2: advocating for sex offenders to dodge and instead be treated
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Speaker 2: with care and something called an accountability circle.
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Speaker 3: Care and accountability circles work better than punishing people who
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Speaker 3: have engaged in sexual harm to make them start.
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Speaker 2: But first. A convicted child sex offender may be allowed
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Speaker 2: to stay in Australia indefinitely after his psychologists argued before
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Speaker 2: the Federal Court that he would pose less of a
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Speaker 2: risk of reoffending if he was granted a permanent protection visa.
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Speaker 2: The fifty year old man from Sierra Leone, who is
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Speaker 2: identified as m F KF, arrived in Australia in two
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Speaker 2: thousand and eleven on a partner visa. His visa was
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Speaker 2: canceled in twenty eighteen following a series of criminal convictions.
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Speaker 2: The man is the subject of a protection finding, meaning
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Speaker 2: he cannot be removed to his home country, and he
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Speaker 2: has submitted that he cannot be removed to a third
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Speaker 2: country in Africa because he is homosexual. He has been
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Speaker 2: living in the community since the High Court's landmark and
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Speaker 2: z YQ decision. Joining me now for more on This
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Speaker 2: is News Corpts Senior writer Patrick Carline and Institute of
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Speaker 2: Public Affairs Research fellow Colleen Harken. Colleen, I'll start with you.
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Speaker 2: The court cited expert evidence from a therapist stating that
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Speaker 2: giving the man a permanent visa would provide a level
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Speaker 2: of security that may reduce the risk of criminal or
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Speaker 2: sexual offending, reducing the risk to the community. So there
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Speaker 2: we have it. We're all going to be safe for
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Speaker 2: Colleen if he is allowed to stay. I mean, this
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Speaker 2: is just madness.
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Speaker 4: Well, and this is indictment on a system that has.
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Speaker 5: Completely lost completely lost sight of its first duty. Our
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Speaker 5: immigration system should be for the purposes of Australia. Any
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Speaker 5: migrant coming here ought to be compelled to comply with
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Speaker 5: the law. You wing, did our system become primarily concerned
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Speaker 5: with the stress levels of a convicted sex offender over
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Speaker 5: the priority of the safety of the Australian people and
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Speaker 5: it exposes an incredible flaw in our approach to immigration.
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Speaker 5: My understanding is that this person's family has been in
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Speaker 5: Bangladesh since twenty nineteen. His visa was canceled in twenty eighteen,
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Speaker 5: so why you know, why did it take so long
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Speaker 5: for it to get to where it is now? There's
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Speaker 5: nothing about this that is comfortable, and I think.
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Speaker 2: Once it's in the courts, the Australian legal system takes
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Speaker 2: over and there so long here there are all sorts
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Speaker 2: of different avenues patrick that can be explored, and they
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Speaker 2: know precisely how to play that system. I'm not just
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Speaker 2: talking about this case. I'm talking more generally. The lawyers
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Speaker 2: in this arena know precisely what to do and.
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Speaker 6: Who's paying for it. That's what I really want to know.
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Speaker 6: I mean, this has been going for eight years. I
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Speaker 6: mean it would have cost an average Australian hundreds of
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Speaker 6: thousands of dollars to go through this process. Who actually
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Speaker 6: funds them? It is it? It is a system that
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Speaker 6: is you know, it seems to favor the culprits, the
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Speaker 6: baddis what about the poor victims? And I mean if
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Speaker 6: you look at his history, if you read it closely,
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Speaker 6: it's just revolting. He was a predator who attacked people.
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Speaker 6: Oh he's going to be okay, let's reward him with
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Speaker 6: the visa. Les let him stay after really breaking every
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Speaker 6: rule imaginable to.
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Speaker 2: Be a bad person. And we do have Colleen multiple
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Speaker 2: cases where the offenders will say, I am from a
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Speaker 2: persecuted minority, I'm homosexual, and I cannot be sent back
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Speaker 2: to my home country or a neighboring country because they're
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Speaker 2: not accepting of that lifestyle. So again, that is a
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Speaker 2: tactic that many people who are familiar with this area
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Speaker 2: say is used. And again I'm not just talking about
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Speaker 2: this case. I'm talking more broadly.
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Speaker 5: And the issue here is if our laws aren't serving
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Speaker 5: the purpose for the safety and security of Australian cit
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Speaker 5: change it. You know, deal with the consequences of what
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Speaker 5: we have find a way to because our first priority
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Speaker 5: is for the benefit and the safety of Australian citizens.
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Speaker 5: You know, it's inverted commas. It's pretty simple stuff. Have
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Speaker 5: the appetite to actually address it.
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Speaker 2: But there is a number of cases causing all sorts
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Speaker 2: of fadaggs for the Albanese government and it's trouble of
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Speaker 2: their own making. We know that High Court decision that
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Speaker 2: we know all the politics behind that. Now, Patrick, you
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Speaker 2: went to Lumbara Lumbra outskirts of Tamworth to speak with
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Speaker 2: locals threatened by a solar farm, the solar project. Their
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Speaker 2: lamb Brook solar project would stretch over nine hundred and
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Speaker 2: thirty hectares and threatens to replace prime farming land. You
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Speaker 2: spoke to one farmer, Kevin Tungue, a type of lessen.
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Speaker 7: It's on prime agricultural land and it is taking the
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Speaker 7: food ball away from New South.
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Speaker 6: Why are you anti renewables or pro renewable.
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Speaker 7: No, we have got renewables frate. We've got renewables on
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Speaker 7: every house here for electricity, We've got solar generated pumps.
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Speaker 7: We're not against it, but it's got to be in
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Speaker 7: the right place, not on prime agricultural land.
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Speaker 2: You spoke to a lot of people in that community.
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Speaker 2: What was the sentiment and is anyone listening to their concerns.
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Speaker 6: Well, that's one of the problems is that they've been
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Speaker 6: fighting this for four years. They're very articulate. They've got
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Speaker 6: a point when you go and have a look. I mean,
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Speaker 6: this solar farm is eight kilometers long down from outside.
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Speaker 6: A poor woman's got a B and B which is
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Speaker 6: doing really well. She said, I'm going to lose my
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Speaker 6: business goes up. No one wants to look at a
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Speaker 6: solar farm. If you go to Wellington in New South Wales,
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Speaker 6: I think there's more than three thousand acres of solar
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Speaker 6: farms there. They are very very ungly in terms of
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Speaker 6: the visual amenity. I think there's a sense that the
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Speaker 6: bush is paying the price for the benefits of the city.
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Speaker 2: But they're also destroyed our food bowls. Colleen, this is
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Speaker 2: prime farming land. We're a big country, but we don't
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Speaker 2: have that much prime farming land, and to be putting
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Speaker 2: solar panels all over it, it's not like you can
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Speaker 2: just remove them. There's all sorts of issues with the
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Speaker 2: quality of the soil afterwards. So when it will ever
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Speaker 2: be suitable for farming again is a question that can't
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Speaker 2: be right now adequately answered. It's certainly not as simple
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Speaker 2: as just removing the solar panels and then the farm
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Speaker 2: moving back.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, And this is major industrial development that's been imposed
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Speaker 5: on rural communities. IPA did some research last year and
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Speaker 5: there's about one hundred and fifty community led rejections of
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Speaker 5: these developments.
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Speaker 4: This particular one is enormous and.
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Speaker 5: They say that give or taken about twenty thirty five,
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Speaker 5: Australia will have a million tons, about five hundred million
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Speaker 5: panels solar panels for wasteland. You know, So these things
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Speaker 5: are We've got a problem that nobody's addressing about. You know,
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Speaker 5: in just a few years time, we've got this extraordinary
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Speaker 5: waste problem. And to your point, you know, the food
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Speaker 5: bowl issue that we're changing over what is arable food
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Speaker 5: productive land to industry.
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Speaker 2: You know what. I've got professor in Plymarn later this
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Speaker 2: week and want to ask him precisely when that land
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Speaker 2: would be suitable for farming, if ever post solar farms,
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Speaker 2: because I think there will come a point where we
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Speaker 2: will reverse course on this because it's insane. We are
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Speaker 2: destroying our beautiful countryside. And you're right visually, they're ugly
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Speaker 2: from the ground, they're ugly from above. I fly over
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Speaker 2: them on a regular basis going up to Sydney and
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Speaker 2: the number of these solar projects across the country is astronomical.
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Speaker 8: Now.
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Speaker 2: Polling in the Gippsland region has shown sixty seven percent
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Speaker 2: of consumers would not want to pay a single extra dollar,
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Speaker 2: not a dollar extra on their energy bill to make
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Speaker 2: the transition to renewable energy faster. The consumers said the
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Speaker 2: energy transition was happening too quickly and they would prefer
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Speaker 2: reliable and affordable energy instead of carbon cuts. Colleen, more
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Speaker 2: than fifty percent of those poles set keeping household and
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Speaker 2: small business electricity bills affordable should be the most important
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Speaker 2: priority for Victorian for Victoria's energy system. For a long time,
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Speaker 2: we've prioritized everything but that it's all been about missions
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Speaker 2: and the transition and what And we've been told consumers
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Speaker 2: want this, they're willing to pay extra, but they're not.
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Speaker 2: And I think consistently when you look at the polling,
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Speaker 2: when you look at just how people make certain choices.
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Speaker 2: For example, when you take a fly, so you can
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Speaker 2: pay just a couple of dollars extra and have a
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Speaker 2: carbon offset. Hardly anybody helps to do that. That's just
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Speaker 2: a couple of dollars per flight. So it just shows
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Speaker 2: you when people are given the choice, they make clear
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Speaker 2: what their priorities are.
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Speaker 5: Seventy nine percent of Australians want affordable and reliable energy,
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Speaker 5: you know. I mean, it's a no brainer to be
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Speaker 5: able to run a business without this extra burden of
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Speaker 5: cost for a scenario that doesn't actually work anyway. If
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Speaker 5: it worked, and if it did provide cheap energy, I
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Speaker 5: think people would go, you know, okay, But over the
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Speaker 5: years it has increased the cost of living. It is
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Speaker 5: unreliable and people are starting to wake up to it.
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Speaker 4: And the idea that people would.
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Speaker 5: Be asked to pay extra for something that is cost
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Speaker 5: you know, is less reliable and obviously less affordable, people
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Speaker 5: just don't.
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Speaker 4: They won't do it. They won't pay fifty bucks a
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Speaker 4: year extra.
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Speaker 5: So I agree with you that over a period of time,
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Speaker 5: if the priority is moving, people want to be able
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Speaker 5: to run a business, run their lives without all of
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Speaker 5: this extra burden on them.
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Speaker 4: And I think that the tables are starting to turn.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely and if this center revealed in this polling in
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Speaker 2: Gibbsland is evident in the rest of the state, it's
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Speaker 2: good news for one Nation. Patrick, because when it comes
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Speaker 2: to the energy policy, I've got to say the Libs
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Speaker 2: and the Labor government, yes there are differences, but there
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Speaker 2: are on a unity to get on a number of fronts.
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Speaker 2: And as far as the Liberal leader goes, didn't she
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Speaker 2: speak about net zero and the importance of climate change
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Speaker 2: during her maiden speech?
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Speaker 6: That's right. Look, the world has changed. I think it's
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Speaker 6: Colin said in the last twelve months eighteen months. You
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Speaker 6: can't put up an ideological target against the reality and
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Speaker 6: have the ideological target win that battle. People are think
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Speaker 6: they've run out of money, they don't know how to
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Speaker 6: pay the power bills, and the idea that renewables are
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Speaker 6: going to be the solution, that they're going to be cheaper,
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Speaker 6: I think that has been dispelled. We're going to be
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Speaker 6: using possible fuels forever. And I think, as you say,
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Speaker 6: I think nation does cut through that they get past
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Speaker 6: that ideological sort of hang up with let's make.
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Speaker 2: Because they're so clear they say that zero is rubbish.
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Speaker 2: We're going to prioritize fossil fuels, cheapest and most reliable
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Speaker 2: forms of energy. Whilst the Libs, because so many of
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Speaker 2: their MPs and so many of their leadership group belongs
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Speaker 2: to those seats in the tram tracks, those inner city
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Speaker 2: affluent seats where they care about this issue, it puts
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Speaker 2: them in a difficult position.
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Speaker 6: Patrick, Oh, absolutely, Look the world has changed. I mean,
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Speaker 6: the hip pocket is always going to win these kinds
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Speaker 6: of battles in the end. And power is very expensive
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Speaker 6: and we want it to be reliable, we want it
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Speaker 6: to be affordable. We can't actually live the same standard
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Speaker 6: of living if it becomes more expensive. And I think
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Speaker 6: that that green dream really really has been copped to hammering.
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Speaker 6: And I think it shows how out of touch federal
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Speaker 6: and state governments have been, certainly in Victoria, have been
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Speaker 6: in not listening to people. I want to say more
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Speaker 6: surveys like this one reflecting it more widely.
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Speaker 2: Now. Despite endless attacks from the left, Dave Hughes is
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Speaker 2: not showing away from his political activism. He recently delivered
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Speaker 2: as speech at a Victorian Liberal Party event. Patrick, the
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Speaker 2: attacks are becoming one hinge. We've got so called colleagues
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Speaker 2: in the industry releasing private messages with him. And then
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Speaker 2: there was this from former Labor MP John Kennedy who
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Speaker 2: posted an unsubstantiated message from a random person as if
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Speaker 2: it was fact, just to try to embarrass Dave, saying
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Speaker 2: that you know, he was in a dog park and
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Speaker 2: talking on his phone and profanities were used. And good
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Speaker 2: on Dave Hughes for responding to that, because it's a
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Speaker 2: fair bit of fake news in that. But I'm just
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Speaker 2: shocked by the venom. This is a man who's speed
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Speaker 2: of the left his entire adult life. He's changed his
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Speaker 2: position largely because of the budget and some other is use,
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Speaker 2: and the attacks are so hateful and demented. You can
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Speaker 2: disagree with someone without trying to blow up their entire reputation.
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Speaker 6: Absolutely, And look, you look at the protests last week
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Speaker 6: against Pautlane Hansen and what some of the students were
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Speaker 6: saying in the same ven people don't know how to
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Speaker 6: have a civilized debate anymore. If somebody disagrees with your
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Speaker 6: point of view, you smash them as best you can.
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Speaker 6: And I think Dave Hughes is a reflection of that.
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Speaker 6: He's become very polarizing. I think for those people who
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Speaker 6: are sick of the labor government down here, you sort
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Speaker 6: of become this sort of heroic sort of figure speaking out.
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Speaker 6: But for the left, yes, which he has rejected, he
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Speaker 6: can't do that, they're going to try and smash it.
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Speaker 2: Collein. It's the methods of the attacks. It's not like
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Speaker 2: they're trying to dismantle his arguments, say well, your position
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Speaker 2: is based on a falsehood, or you're engaging in a
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Speaker 2: hype purbly, whatever the argument may be. It's a very
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Speaker 2: personal attack to discredit him, and that was evident where
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Speaker 2: people were releasing private text messages and even the jibes
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Speaker 2: we heard at the logis again, I'd imagine when it
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Speaker 2: comes from colleagues it would sing a lot.
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Speaker 5: More, Well, this is the thing, is that attacking him personally,
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Speaker 5: and not just him, anybody who happens to an express
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Speaker 5: and opinion that someone else doesn't agree with, it's become
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Speaker 5: a put a knife.
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Speaker 4: In their back.
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Speaker 5: It's a very personal attack on them to destroy their
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Speaker 5: career basically, and the idea that somebody could have a
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Speaker 5: different view to you, express a different view and open
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Speaker 5: debate publicly, like it's just sort of seemed to have gone.
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Speaker 5: We've got this viciousness that has entered the public square,
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Speaker 5: and it doesn't help anybody because for those people who
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Speaker 5: agree with Dave Hughes, sabotaging him only makes them more
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Speaker 5: commission to the cause. And for those people who are
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Speaker 5: doing the sabotaging peace look at them and go, well,
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Speaker 5: you know, you're just being foolish because you're not paired
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Speaker 5: to have the conversation it is.
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Speaker 2: It's a red pill moment when your own side comes
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Speaker 2: after you in this sort of hateful manner, it just
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Speaker 2: opens your eyes further to who they really are. Colleen
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Speaker 2: Hark and Patrick Carly and thank you so much for
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Speaker 2: your time. Now, Rents are rejected to saw by as
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Speaker 2: much as thirty percent over the next two years to
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Speaker 2: compensate landlords after the government changes to negative gearing and
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Speaker 2: capital gains tax. The National Australia Banks analysis has concluded
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Speaker 2: the changes to the tax settings for investors and existing
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Speaker 2: dwellings implied that gross rental yields will need to rise
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Speaker 2: in order to compensate for the loss of tax benefits.
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Speaker 2: Treasury previously estimated that the tax changes would only push
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Speaker 2: rents up by two dollars a week. Joining me now
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Speaker 2: is Chair of Property Investment Professionals Australia, Kate Bakos. Kate,
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Speaker 2: we are among those warning the alban Eazy government that
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Speaker 2: their budget measures would see rents rise dramatically. Only they listened.
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Reader, it's a difficult situation and it's one of the
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Speaker 1: unintended consequences. And I'm not sure I agree with the
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Speaker 1: rationale that NAB have applied to this claim, but I
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Speaker 1: certainly have gone on the record saying that we could
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Speaker 1: see increases up to twenty percent over the next couple
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Speaker 1: of years. And I think we're well on our way,
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Speaker 1: but we do need to have a look at the areas,
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Speaker 1: the segments that will be most impacted by this. I
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Speaker 1: think we could see a bit of a two speed
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Speaker 1: market when it comes to rental movement. So to clarify that,
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Speaker 1: if we have if we consider the entering and the
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Speaker 1: middle ring for example, the established areas where we don't
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Speaker 1: have new house and land, for example, when those properties sell,
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Speaker 1: and ultimately they will because investors for a wide variety
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Speaker 1: of reasons are selling, Yeah, those properties will sell to
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Speaker 1: owner occupiers and so we're going to lose a lot
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Speaker 1: of rental properties in these locations, and it's these areas
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Speaker 1: where you often find the renters can afford the higher
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Speaker 1: rents because they're inner and middle ring typically have higher
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Speaker 1: household incomes. We'll see those rents surge. But also another
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Speaker 1: bad byproduct to all of this is that we'll see
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Speaker 1: renters displaced into other areas.
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Speaker 2: We if they can't afford those established properties, then they're
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Speaker 2: going to have to move further out or perhaps move
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Speaker 2: into high rises closer to the city, which again, if
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Speaker 2: people wanted those choices, they would have made them. They're
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Speaker 2: going to be forced into that by economic reality that
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Speaker 2: they just won't be able to afford twenty percent or
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Speaker 2: thirty percent. That is a huge increase, and.
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Speaker 4: I feel for people that are displaced.
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Speaker 1: When we're talking about families that have the friends, community, schools,
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Speaker 1: and family to help them, and to face the proposition
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Speaker 1: of moving to an outer fringe area or a high
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Speaker 1: density inner area, it's a really large contemplation for anyone now.
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Speaker 2: Nabyasay also confirmed a downturn in mortgage borrowers, with applications
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Speaker 2: falling fifteen percent. Westpac was the worst hit, recording a
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Speaker 2: twenty percent job. Commonwealth Bank reported a fifteen percent drop
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Speaker 2: and A and Z twelve percent. Now. Each lender has
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Speaker 2: pointed to the labor Government's tax changes are sinking by interests.
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Speaker 2: We spoke earlier in the week Kate about the incredible
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Speaker 2: situation of applications being down for first home buyers. We've
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Speaker 2: told all these changes, all this pain was for their benefit,
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Speaker 2: and yet even they don't feel confident entering this market.
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Speaker 2: It seems that's right rate.
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Speaker 1: We're seeing a lot of first home by standing back
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Speaker 1: on the sidelines. Some of them are wondering how far
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Speaker 1: the market can fall and whether they can time it
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Speaker 1: by purchasing at an even low price point. Others are
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Speaker 1: just entirely spooked by all of the headlines and what's
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Speaker 1: going on at the moment now.
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Speaker 2: Commonwealth Bank also signaled that the sluggish housing market was
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Speaker 2: flying through to its business banking division, which has pulled
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Speaker 2: back from funding property developers amid concerns about their ability
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Speaker 2: to sell newly built homes. Now that may surprise a
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Speaker 2: lot of people, because shouldn't these tax changes be a
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Speaker 2: positive for property developers. Aren't we supposed to be incentivizing
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Speaker 2: new builds and incentivizing investment in new homes because we
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Speaker 2: do have a housing shortage.
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Speaker 1: This is the most worrying data point of all of them.
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Speaker 1: To hear that the news that banks are feeling this
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Speaker 1: way about new developments is really concerning because we've really
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Speaker 1: hung our hat on new solving this issue that our
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Speaker 1: government has managed to get themselves into over decades.
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Speaker 2: Now that the government do much well, I mean they've
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Speaker 2: got Treasury to advise them and we've seen how well
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Speaker 2: that has gone over the years, but they consult with
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Speaker 2: the industry at all before they announced these changes in
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Speaker 2: the budget because a lot of this was entirely predictable.
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Speaker 1: Yes, Unfortunately the answer is no. It's a huge bugbear
21:01
Speaker 1: of ours. I mean, as someone who has a significant
21:04
Speaker 1: role in one of our industry bodies, we were desperately
21:07
Speaker 1: wanting to have consultation and not only was there no
21:11
Speaker 1: offer and no.
21:11
Speaker 4: Opportunity, we were pretty much pushed.
21:14
Speaker 1: Aside and any opportunity that we were seeking was rejected.
21:18
Speaker 1: And I'm entirely disappointed in the.
21:20
Speaker 2: Current pay Do you think that is I've heard from
21:22
Speaker 2: others that this government is almost hostile to the private sector.
21:28
Speaker 2: You've got a cabinet with very little experience in the
21:34
Speaker 2: private sector, let alone running their own businesses. Do you
21:37
Speaker 2: feel that do you feel that there is a different
21:40
Speaker 2: attitude from this Albanezy government to previous labor governments.
21:44
Speaker 1: I think, in all honesty, it's a very hard proposition
21:49
Speaker 1: for someone like myself who's representing property investors to get
21:52
Speaker 1: any kind of sympathy vote. And the shame of all
21:55
Speaker 1: of it is the industry bodies have information at their
21:58
Speaker 1: fingertips of shared that would have at least given the
22:02
Speaker 1: government insight into some of these unintended consequences.
22:06
Speaker 2: Absolutely, because it's in their interest to have that information
22:09
Speaker 2: before they make these announcements. Now, before you go, the
22:13
Speaker 2: Victorian government is again changing the laws around buying and
22:17
Speaker 2: selling properties. On me, there's change to auctions and reserve prices.
22:23
Speaker 2: What do you see as the impact of this, and
22:25
Speaker 2: just tell my audience what those changes will look like.
22:28
Speaker 1: Yeah, this all relates to under quoting and the pain
22:31
Speaker 1: that a lot of buyers have gone through when they've
22:32
Speaker 1: felt like they've been misled or they've invested time and
22:35
Speaker 1: money in due diligence and then they've got to auction
22:38
Speaker 1: and the property prices saw it past what the quote
22:40
Speaker 1: range was, and so the Victorian government have now pushed
22:43
Speaker 1: for vendors to state their reserve price seven days prior
22:47
Speaker 1: to auction. I think for a lot of vendors that's
22:50
Speaker 1: a really tough proposition because a lot can change in
22:53
Speaker 1: that final seven days now, and I think we can
22:56
Speaker 1: anticipate seeing either a lot more actions passing in because
22:59
Speaker 1: some vendors, particularly the start of this, will be afraid
23:02
Speaker 1: to set their reserve too low, and I think a
23:06
Speaker 1: lot of agents will be adapting to private sale method.
23:10
Speaker 2: Which is a lot less transparent. The auctions are the
23:13
Speaker 2: most transparent way to buy, so I think as a
23:16
Speaker 2: buyer you have an advantage buying at auction that you
23:19
Speaker 2: don't have when you've got all the other methods of buying.
23:23
Speaker 2: Kate Becos, it's been a pleasure. Thank you so much
23:26
Speaker 2: for your time. Coming up, Lefties Losing a plus bombshell
23:31
Speaker 2: revelations about a Democrat congressman involved in an illicit affair
23:36
Speaker 2: with a Chinese spy. Kosher Gata is up next. Welcome back.
23:49
Speaker 2: It's time for Lefties Losing It. Let's check in with
23:53
Speaker 2: the world of academia. Here is America law professor and
23:57
Speaker 2: transgender activist Dean Spade, arguing that we shouldn't jail sex offenders.
24:03
Speaker 2: Instead rapersts should be given care and accountability circles.
24:08
Speaker 3: Care and accountability circles work better than punishing people who
24:12
Speaker 3: have engaged in sexual harm to make them stop. It's
24:16
Speaker 3: like abolitionism is so pragmatic, and yet ironically we are
24:20
Speaker 3: always accused of being utopic, like we're accusing utopians.
24:23
Speaker 2: I wouldn't call you utopians, I'd call you clinically insane.
24:27
Speaker 2: And listen here, as he claims his movement owns black mothers,
24:32
Speaker 2: equating black mothers with sex workers and others he claims are.
24:37
Speaker 3: His people contacts that we live in has set up
24:41
Speaker 3: a story about safety culturally that's terrible for all of us.
24:45
Speaker 3: And it's also set up i think, like the same
24:47
Speaker 3: structure as internally that are about getting safe by getting
24:51
Speaker 3: away from people we perceive as bad. And so our
24:54
Speaker 3: driver is not to be no, we're not sexual predators.
24:57
Speaker 3: It's to be like, wow, who are all the people
24:59
Speaker 3: who are that in a frame like sex workers and
25:02
Speaker 3: black moms and others who get like brought into these
25:05
Speaker 3: extreme sexualized, stigmatized categories. Those are our people.
25:09
Speaker 2: Now, If you were expecting any sense from the woman
25:13
Speaker 2: called s lamb Ball, Well, you'll be disappointed. She is
25:17
Speaker 2: too busy attacking jk Rowling, who she claims stole her
25:21
Speaker 2: way to wealth.
25:22
Speaker 9: So I don't think we should be trying to reach
25:26
Speaker 9: out to people who are clearly like rabidly rabidly anti
25:30
Speaker 9: trans or people who are using their wealth and power
25:33
Speaker 9: like I'm not trying to bring in jk Rowling. She
25:35
Speaker 9: is a billionaire, and we should be claiming back the
25:38
Speaker 9: money that she has stolen from us through the taxation
25:41
Speaker 9: system rather than trying to bring her into our movements.
25:45
Speaker 2: Now let's hear from more confused women who argue that
25:48
Speaker 2: no one should care which bathroom you use. Women should
25:52
Speaker 2: never complain about men in their spaces, after all, why
25:55
Speaker 2: does it matter? And if you don't like it, stay
25:58
Speaker 2: at home. Sure why they're not giving that advice to
26:02
Speaker 2: the trans women aka men, who are the cause of
26:05
Speaker 2: this issue.
26:06
Speaker 10: There doesn't need to be Jenit bathrooms hool.
26:08
Speaker 4: Stock, Like, let's just get rid of Jenet.
26:09
Speaker 10: Bathrooms shouldn't care about where people go to. It's much
26:15
Speaker 10: more likely that as this man is going to infringe
26:17
Speaker 10: on the space anyway and then also harm trans women.
26:20
Speaker 10: Trans women are not and have never been.
26:22
Speaker 4: A danger to other women.
26:24
Speaker 2: And what do you say to women that don't want
26:26
Speaker 2: to use facilities with biological males.
26:30
Speaker 4: Pe at home?
26:31
Speaker 8: I don't know.
26:32
Speaker 10: But then at home you also share the bathroom, probably
26:34
Speaker 10: with your son, father, husband, Like it's why is it
26:38
Speaker 10: okay at homeman? And you have a problem with it?
26:40
Speaker 10: And also you can't tell me, You're never going to know.
26:43
Speaker 10: You don't know if someone.
26:45
Speaker 2: Is trans Oh, I can tell, honey, I can always tell.
26:49
Speaker 2: And did she just equate your personal bathroom in the
26:52
Speaker 2: safety of your own home, shared only with people you
26:55
Speaker 2: allow into your house. Did she compare that to a
26:58
Speaker 2: public bathroom? And again, why are they telling women to
27:02
Speaker 2: stay home to not use public restrooms? Why not give
27:06
Speaker 2: that advice to the men who have the option of
27:09
Speaker 2: using men's bathrooms but choose to invade women's spaces. Now,
27:14
Speaker 2: to some tordryantics from the Democrats, this is a gutter
27:18
Speaker 2: level stuff, even by their low standards. Now, let me
27:21
Speaker 2: give you some background. First, Natalie Harp survived bone cancer
27:27
Speaker 2: because of Donald Trump. Because Donald Trump changed the law
27:30
Speaker 2: allowing her to access experimental treatment. The Federal Right to
27:35
Speaker 2: Try Act was signed into law in Trump's first term,
27:39
Speaker 2: and it allows terminally ill patients to access unapproved experimental
27:44
Speaker 2: medical treatments. That's why Natalie Harp is alive today, and
27:49
Speaker 2: she now works for Donald Trump. She's the president's personal aid,
27:53
Speaker 2: meaning she's of course by his side, travels with him,
27:56
Speaker 2: as do many other staffers. But because she's a woman
28:00
Speaker 2: and attractive, the Democrats have decided to degrade her, suggesting
28:05
Speaker 2: she must be sleeping with the president. Listen here as
28:08
Speaker 2: Senator John Osoff first mixes up Trump and Biden, claiming
28:13
Speaker 2: that the President sleeps through meetings and that he just
28:17
Speaker 2: wants to travel with.
28:18
Speaker 11: Nashally and while the sailors on the Lincoln fight his
28:22
Speaker 11: war while he fruitlessly drains our munitions and oil reserves.
28:29
Speaker 11: The President sleeps through his meetings, he golfs and trade stocks,
28:37
Speaker 11: so he doesn't want to do the job. He wants
28:42
Speaker 11: to build his ballroom and travel with Natalie on their
28:44
Speaker 11: apparently defenseless flying palace gifted by the Emir of Qatar.
28:52
Speaker 2: A male senator, white male senator making a comment like
28:56
Speaker 2: that about a female staffer would normally have the feminist raging,
29:02
Speaker 2: but no, instead, they're doing his bidding and asking the
29:06
Speaker 2: President about Natalie and the senator's comments like they're worthy
29:10
Speaker 2: of being followed up. Here is CNN diving headfirst into
29:14
Speaker 2: the gutter.
29:18
Speaker 12: Natalie Harp, and build the ballroom, President, you mean pe
29:24
Speaker 12: wee herman. P wee Hermann. Look at no, I would
29:28
Speaker 12: much rather do other things. It's say, we're building a
29:32
Speaker 12: great facility here.
29:33
Speaker 2: And the President was not done with CNN yet. At
29:36
Speaker 2: a press conference to honor a young hero, the President
29:40
Speaker 2: made his thoughts about CNN quite clear.
29:45
Speaker 12: Quiet, Wait, quiet, you're very disrespectful and fort of this
29:48
Speaker 12: young man. Okay, don't you find her disrespectful? He understands. Quiet.
29:54
Speaker 12: Who are you with fake news? Your fake news? You're
29:59
Speaker 12: allowed tell you you're a loud, boisterous person. You're fake
30:03
Speaker 12: Big quiet, big quiet, big quiet. You're a fake reporter
30:08
Speaker 12: and you report fake dish.
30:10
Speaker 2: Go ahead, boisterous quiet. That's how you handle activist journers
30:15
Speaker 2: who long ago gave up any pretense of impartiality. Let's
30:20
Speaker 2: bring in News twenty four contributor Kosher Geeta Kosher. This
30:24
Speaker 2: innuendo from the senator. He's saying it to smear Trump
30:29
Speaker 2: with little thought of the impact on Natalie Harp.
30:32
Speaker 13: Of course, and we know that, you know, as you
30:35
Speaker 13: said that if it were a woman on the other side,
30:39
Speaker 13: maybe a woman of color somebody else, they wouldn't do that.
30:41
Speaker 13: But the averaging thing is a Republican. Republican women, especially
30:45
Speaker 13: the good looking Republican women, always copy it from them.
30:49
Speaker 13: We can go back to Sarah Palin at the start.
30:51
Speaker 13: There are many people in Congress. Hope Hicks comes to mind,
30:56
Speaker 13: and the list goes on from there. So she's sort
30:58
Speaker 13: of just the latest that that innuendo has been floating
31:00
Speaker 13: around for a while because I think different documentaries are
31:03
Speaker 13: things that were done. She is one of his courseses.
31:05
Speaker 4: I think she's a person responsible.
31:07
Speaker 13: For taping out his ex posts and things like that,
31:09
Speaker 13: so she's always right there doing it.
31:11
Speaker 2: And well, she's the personal aid, so of course she's
31:14
Speaker 2: always going to be by side. It's the nature of
31:16
Speaker 2: the role, of course, and of course she's going to
31:18
Speaker 2: travel with him. But again she's hardly alone. Here's the president.
31:22
Speaker 2: She's got quite a team who are buys side constantly.
31:26
Speaker 13: She catches the eye of the camera, so it roll
31:28
Speaker 13: with that, and the right to try thing was an
31:31
Speaker 13: interesting part of her backstory that a lot of people
31:33
Speaker 13: probably don't know. That's one of the more underreported achievements
31:35
Speaker 13: of Trump's first term. So if anything else, I think
31:37
Speaker 13: that will come back into the forefront.
31:39
Speaker 2: Which is a good thing. Well, yeah, that is a
31:41
Speaker 2: good thing. But the hypocrisy of the Democrats who pretend
31:47
Speaker 2: to champion women and quite happy to kick them as
31:51
Speaker 2: long as it means that you lay glove on Donald Trump.
31:55
Speaker 2: Now we're going to look at a real scandal, a
31:57
Speaker 2: Democrat congressman's illicit relationship with a Chinese spy. But first,
32:02
Speaker 2: let's note the reason for today's press conference, and it
32:05
Speaker 2: was the incredible rescue operation of a young man who
32:09
Speaker 2: saved from certain death a ten year old child. This
32:13
Speaker 2: young man is only sixteen years of age and his
32:16
Speaker 2: name is Writer Williams.
32:18
Speaker 8: This is a.
32:18
Speaker 12: Great story and it's an honor to be with Writer Williams,
32:23
Speaker 12: who is a sixteen year old lifeguard and he saved
32:26
Speaker 12: this young gentleman.
32:28
Speaker 8: What you did was incredible.
32:30
Speaker 12: I've seen rescues before, I've never seen anything to work
32:33
Speaker 12: like this.
32:33
Speaker 14: In those dangerous moments that we have, we always try
32:35
Speaker 14: to fall back on our training.
32:36
Speaker 8: You're a trained so well though many I hope.
32:39
Speaker 3: That everybody can take away from this and try to
32:41
Speaker 3: help more people, try to look out for everybody around you,
32:43
Speaker 3: and just try to help everybody out Kosher.
32:47
Speaker 2: Even with that feel good story, the media headlines from
32:52
Speaker 2: the usual suspects are I don't know, managed to misrepresent
32:56
Speaker 2: this lovely tribute. Guardian had this Trump, He tells ten
33:00
Speaker 2: year old rescued by teen lifeguard, I don't know if
33:04
Speaker 2: I'd do it, Kosher. It was clearly a lighthearted moment
33:08
Speaker 2: turned into something sinister by the Guardian. That kid is
33:12
Speaker 2: a hero, and that's what Donald Trump said, He's real hero.
33:15
Speaker 2: I don't know if i'd do it. You're lucky. I
33:17
Speaker 2: wasn't the one who was on service that day to
33:20
Speaker 2: try to change that into something dark. I mean, Guardian, please.
33:24
Speaker 4: Oh it doesn't work.
33:25
Speaker 13: I was so sweet everything, the lifeguard, the little boy.
33:28
Speaker 13: It reminded me of how they wouldn't stand at the
33:30
Speaker 13: State of the Union for the thirteen year old cancer survivor.
33:33
Speaker 2: Kid has made the honorary.
33:35
Speaker 13: Secret Service agent, similar to Bean that You've got these
33:39
Speaker 13: great stories. Actually, this is where I think Trump is
33:41
Speaker 13: at his best, showcasing real Americans doing heroic things, bringing
33:44
Speaker 13: them to the White House. From the state of Union
33:46
Speaker 13: celebrating them, and it just makes the other side look
33:49
Speaker 13: like a bunch of curmudgeons.
33:50
Speaker 2: Yeah, but if they actually covered it properly, just fairly,
33:54
Speaker 2: they don't have to do anything other than to cover
33:58
Speaker 2: it straight down the line, it would be a unifying
34:02
Speaker 2: moment for the country, these stories, because there really are
34:05
Speaker 2: above politics. But this determination to put a negative light
34:10
Speaker 2: on even the most heartwarming story, I think is part
34:14
Speaker 2: of the reason the country is so divided.
34:16
Speaker 13: Yeah, and it just doesn't work. It just makes them
34:18
Speaker 13: look bad. And the other thing too is Trump has
34:20
Speaker 13: been on the stage now, the political stage, for a decade,
34:23
Speaker 13: and this kind of lighthearted humor. I wouldn't have done it.
34:26
Speaker 2: I wouldn't have seen you. That's so Trump. We all
34:27
Speaker 2: know it.
34:28
Speaker 13: Even the previous story, they've tried to tire him with
34:30
Speaker 13: all sorts of women and everything else. It doesn't stick.
34:32
Speaker 13: So it's if nothing else, I think, being a little
34:35
Speaker 13: bit more original, even if their goal is to be
34:37
Speaker 13: a partisan like, come up with something a bit more creative,
34:39
Speaker 13: because these lines of attack do not stick, They do
34:42
Speaker 13: not work, and the American people to see right through it.
34:45
Speaker 2: Now to Eric Swollwell, the Democrat who while sitting in Congress,
34:50
Speaker 2: was in a romantic or you could say just sexual
34:53
Speaker 2: relationship with a Chinese spy called Fang Fang. Kosher, tell
34:58
Speaker 2: me what these newly dick classified FBI records show. What
35:02
Speaker 2: did Swallowell reveal in those FBI interviews?
35:07
Speaker 13: He revealed that he had access to classified information while
35:10
Speaker 13: he's having this relationship. And the story just writes itself
35:14
Speaker 13: because everything including her name, it's like straight out of
35:16
Speaker 13: a fiction novel. Couldn't get more embarrassing for him. And
35:20
Speaker 13: the real story here, I think is that once again
35:22
Speaker 13: is a dark mark on the FBI that they were
35:25
Speaker 13: giving access and just the whole classified information system was
35:29
Speaker 13: continuing to give access even if they knew about this.
35:31
Speaker 13: On some level, people probably did know about it, and
35:34
Speaker 13: unless it had it not come out, had he not
35:36
Speaker 13: gotten caught because of the political machine, it would have
35:39
Speaker 13: probably continued on for longer. And that I think makes
35:43
Speaker 13: a force of the entire classified information system and the
35:46
Speaker 13: way it's safeguarded or not safeguarded.
35:48
Speaker 2: Well. During that first interview with the FBI, he admitted
35:52
Speaker 2: to physical relations with Fang Fang, and he said their
35:56
Speaker 2: last physical encounter was March twenty fifteen. He joined Congress
36:01
Speaker 2: in twenty thirteen. So just the timeline of this is
36:04
Speaker 2: very interesting, and it did remind me of something Speaker
36:09
Speaker 2: Kevin McCarthy said about Swowell not being able to get
36:13
Speaker 2: clearance in a private in the private sector, yet having
36:18
Speaker 2: this enormous access as a congressman.
36:21
Speaker 9: You said, you're gonna like to democratic point or a
36:22
Speaker 9: memory to the committee, but you've also want to get
36:24
Speaker 9: into your knock with.
36:25
Speaker 15: Lot Oh very clear early on, let me praise something
36:31
Speaker 15: very direct to you. If you got the briefing I
36:34
Speaker 15: got from the FBI, you wouldn't have Swawell on any committee.
36:38
Speaker 15: And you're going to tell me other Democrats couldn't feel
36:40
Speaker 15: that slot. He cannot get a security clearance in the
36:43
Speaker 15: private sector, so would you like to give him a
36:46
Speaker 15: government clearance? You asked me questions about Santos, you asked
36:50
Speaker 15: the questions about Swalwell. Not only was he getting a clearance,
36:53
Speaker 15: he was inside an intel committee. He had more information
36:59
Speaker 15: than the majority of all the members. Did you ever
37:02
Speaker 15: raise that issue, No, which you should have. You're going
37:06
Speaker 15: to tell me there's two hundred other Democrats that couldn't
37:09
Speaker 15: fill that slot, but they kept them on it. The
37:11
Speaker 15: only way that they even knew it came forward is
37:14
Speaker 15: when they put to nominate them to the Intel Committee.
37:17
Speaker 15: And then the FBI came and told the leadership, then
37:20
Speaker 15: he's got a problem, and they kept him on. That
37:24
Speaker 15: jeopardized all of us. Adam shift openly lied to the
37:29
Speaker 15: American public.
37:31
Speaker 2: That was three and a half years ago, Kosher. It
37:33
Speaker 2: just shows you how compromised, how politicized the FBI was
37:37
Speaker 2: at that time.
37:38
Speaker 13: Yes, and the timeline kind of comes into sharper focus
37:40
Speaker 13: now with the benefit of hindsight, as you said twenty thirteen,
37:43
Speaker 13: twenty fifteen, only when the stakes could even higher that
37:46
Speaker 13: he's trying to come onto the Intel Committee, does it
37:48
Speaker 13: come out. So being a congressman, it's fine, we're going
37:50
Speaker 13: to sweep it under the rug, even if we know
37:52
Speaker 13: these security vulnerabilities that you're bringing into the US government.
37:56
Speaker 13: But it's only when you get to the next level
37:57
Speaker 13: that it was too much even for the FBI at
37:59
Speaker 13: that point. And then the tea was spilled. And as
38:04
Speaker 13: you mentioned over there, Adam Schiff also swallow while these
38:06
Speaker 13: guys were the face of the Russia collusion exactly. So
38:10
Speaker 13: that just adds even more salt to the wound that
38:12
Speaker 13: not only did they have these improprieties going on in
38:14
Speaker 13: their own lives that were quietly put to the side,
38:16
Speaker 13: but then they were sort of pointing the finger at
38:18
Speaker 13: something that was completely fictional on the other side, and
38:21
Speaker 13: the whole country has paid the price for it.
38:22
Speaker 2: Well, there are some asking why did in the FBI
38:26
Speaker 2: do a thorough investigation and perhaps even contemplate whether what
38:31
Speaker 2: he did here was treason.
38:34
Speaker 13: I think the only conclusion, or one of the strongest
38:37
Speaker 13: conclusions we can draw, is that they are politicized now,
38:39
Speaker 13: at least at the top leadership. Maybe it even runs
38:41
Speaker 13: deeper than that. And everything that we've seen, from the
38:44
Speaker 13: way they handled Hillary Clinton's emails to the way they
38:46
Speaker 13: went after Trump, to these types of transgressions, it's hard
38:50
Speaker 13: not to draw any other conclusion that at the end
38:52
Speaker 13: of the day, this institution has become politicized, and if
38:55
Speaker 13: you're on the wrong side of their political ideology, they
38:58
Speaker 13: will come after you, and if you're on the right side,
39:00
Speaker 13: there will swip things under the run.
39:02
Speaker 2: Certainly that started under Obama. You could argue it started
39:06
Speaker 2: even earlier, but was turbo charged under his administrations. Has
39:10
Speaker 2: that been reversed, or is it just too deeply entrenched
39:15
Speaker 2: now that you're not going to be able in one
39:17
Speaker 2: Trump term And he's only got one term now to
39:21
Speaker 2: really do anything meaningful about this. We've seen all sorts
39:26
Speaker 2: of campaigning. During the election campaign, there was talk of
39:29
Speaker 2: holding people accountable, putting them through the legal process, and
39:34
Speaker 2: that really hasn't happened.
39:36
Speaker 13: I think a lot of people are disappointed because that
39:38
Speaker 13: was a big part of the Trump brand. Drained the swamp,
39:41
Speaker 13: that was one of his original lines, and it was
39:42
Speaker 13: about every institution, including the FBI. There was a little
39:46
Speaker 13: bit with the nominations and the cabinet when they came
39:48
Speaker 13: in and down Bongino and people like that. There was
39:51
Speaker 13: a lot of hope that these were sort of guys
39:52
Speaker 13: from the outside would come in and reform. But I
39:55
Speaker 13: think you're right, it doesn't feel like anything dramatic has happened.
39:58
Speaker 13: Cash Puttel had that line, He's going to take it
40:00
Speaker 13: apart brick by brick. Not sure that's happened. Maybe it
40:04
Speaker 13: was just an untenable, unreachable goal.
40:07
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's.
40:07
Speaker 13: Something that's going to take generations of deep leadership. But
40:11
Speaker 13: I think a lot of people would see that they
40:12
Speaker 13: are a little bit disappointed that more hasn't happened, whether
40:15
Speaker 13: or not that was even realistic.
40:16
Speaker 2: It's like when you have a conservative government here and
40:19
Speaker 2: they put a few people on the board of the
40:21
Speaker 2: ABC expecting to have a deep cultural change and it
40:25
Speaker 2: doesn't happen because it's too deeply drenched. That's a friend
40:28
Speaker 2: addressing exactly that the management levels are all aligned a
40:33
Speaker 2: certain way. But I think it is something that could
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Speaker 2: be addressed if you have successive Republican presidents who see
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Speaker 2: this as a priority. But it's not going to happen
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Speaker 2: in one term. Koshergata, thank you so much for a
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Speaker 2: time pleasure coming up, but leftist women raise over eight
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Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars for a mother who admits to killing
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Speaker 2: her three children. Alex Stein has the details Welcome Back Now.
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Speaker 2: Horrific case has captured the public's attention in the US.
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Speaker 2: Lindsey Clancy has admitted to killing her three children, strangling
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Speaker 2: five year old Cora, three year old Dawson, and Callen,
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Speaker 2: just eight months old. Her attorney does not deny that
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Speaker 2: she killed the children, but claims she was in the
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Speaker 2: grip of postpartum psychosis, arguing that makes her not criminally responsible. Now,
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Speaker 2: somehow this horrific case has become political, with leftist women
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Speaker 2: claiming the killer is the victim. They are raising money
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Speaker 2: for Lindsey Clancy. Can you believe that?
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Speaker 4: Now?
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Speaker 2: Listen here to actress Lisa Rinna who says she and
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Speaker 2: her therapists agree that it was her husband Patrick Clancy
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Speaker 2: who killed the children because apparently women don't strangle.
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Speaker 16: All right, he did it, Patrick did it. Patrick's the
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Speaker 16: one who did it, not Lindsay. Patrick did it. Because
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Speaker 16: you know, I also heard that women typically don't strangle.
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Speaker 16: So awful to even say, but that isn't what a
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Speaker 16: woman would do.
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Speaker 4: They don't strangle.
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Speaker 16: I was actually in therapeut to day and my therapist
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Speaker 16: and I were talking about it and she said, I said,
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Speaker 16: well what do they do? She's will they poison?
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Speaker 6: Or?
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Speaker 16: I said, or drown them? Like we literally had that
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Speaker 16: conversation today And she looks at me and she goes,
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Speaker 16: he did it.
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Speaker 11: Wow?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And have a listen to this therapist who doesn't
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Speaker 2: deny Lindsay did it, but she seems to think that
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Speaker 2: most mothers are capable of similar behavior.
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Speaker 14: Experiencing something completely unprecedented. Never before have we seen so
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Speaker 14: many mothers and women rally behind somebody who confessed to
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Speaker 14: killing her three children. And it is not because we
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Speaker 14: cannot hold women accountable. Many of us see ourselves in Lindsey.
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Speaker 14: Many of us know that we could have been only
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Speaker 14: one step away from doing some of those horrific things.
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Speaker 2: Joining me now as comedian and host of After Hours
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Speaker 2: with Alex Stein, Alex, this isn't anything to do with comedy.
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Speaker 2: I am just absolutely shocked by the reaction here. What
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Speaker 2: is going on in America? How can so many feel
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Speaker 2: an affinity with this self confessed killer and also blaming
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Speaker 2: the grieving father openly saying that he did it.
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Speaker 17: You know, Rita, it's absolutely unbelievable. I say this all
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Speaker 17: the time. Reality is stranger than fiction. If a Hollywood
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Speaker 17: writer had to write this, he would never write that
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Speaker 17: this woman be able to raise almost a million dollars
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Speaker 17: in go fund me donations, So it just doesn't make
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Speaker 17: sense when she's confessed to murdering her three children.
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Speaker 8: It's a very weird situation. I wouldn't have thought that
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Speaker 8: this many.
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Speaker 17: People would go and publicly support her, giving her thousands
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Speaker 17: and thousands of dollars, And it just read it.
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Speaker 8: It blows my mind. It does not make sense.
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Speaker 17: I honestly cannot believe it.
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Speaker 2: It really is quite shocking, and the ways become political again.
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Speaker 2: It is something else I wouldn't have predicted. And you've
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Speaker 2: got over twenty five thousand people who are donating, putting
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Speaker 2: the heart earned into this go fund me. Last week
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Speaker 2: checked it has almost nine hundred thousand dollars US. Probably
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Speaker 2: by the time this goes to a it will be
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Speaker 2: over a million dollars US raised for Lindsay, despite the
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Speaker 2: fact that she has admitted to taking her children down
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Speaker 2: to the basement strangling them one by one. It is
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Speaker 2: just horrific. And the gofund me alex is also filled
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Speaker 2: with positive messages. People can leave a message after they donate,
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Speaker 2: and the messages of support. Again, there is something deeply
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Speaker 2: sick with a significant portion of the population, it seems,
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Speaker 2: well Rita.
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Speaker 17: I also think it's because a lot of these leftist
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Speaker 17: women hate men and they're really mad that Lindsay's husband
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Speaker 17: got remarried within a year. But the guy lost his
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Speaker 17: whole family, his kids, his wife. I mean, bless his
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Speaker 17: heart that he wants to try to move on and
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Speaker 17: start a new relationship. So I don't think that makes him,
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Speaker 17: you know, the murder of his children, and his own
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Speaker 17: wife confess to it. So it's just it's a cognitive dissonance.
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Speaker 17: It doesn't matter how much evidence. No amount of evidence
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Speaker 17: will convince an idiot reader.
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Speaker 2: Now the world is mourning the shock death of actress
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Speaker 2: Hayden Panetteri, who passed away just thirty six years of
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Speaker 2: a The Neil Post is reporting that she suffered a
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Speaker 2: cardiac arrest following a suspected overdose at a South Carolina apartment. Alex,
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Speaker 2: this is incredibly sad. This girl was failed by many
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Speaker 2: in the industry. She was a child stunt. You can
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Speaker 2: make the argument she was also failed by members of
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Speaker 2: her own family.
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Speaker 8: No, you nailed it.
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Speaker 17: I mean I didn't even realize after she passed away,
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Speaker 17: and I've been hearing all these excerpts from her, you know,
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Speaker 17: recent autobiography, And in the autobiography it talked about how
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Speaker 17: she was basically a child star since she was a
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Speaker 17: month old. Her mom was having her doing modeling gigs
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Speaker 17: literally at one month old. And then on top of that,
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Speaker 17: she was on a boat she was allegedly sex traffic.
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Speaker 17: So she was a victim of domestic violence from her
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Speaker 17: boyfriend who was interviewed on TMZ who was kind of
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Speaker 17: laughing about it. So, you know, it's just a sad
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Speaker 17: reality when you become a superstar at a young age.
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Speaker 17: And I remember in the movie you remember the Titans,
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Speaker 17: that's when she was really young. You know that fan
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Speaker 17: is not a good drug, and sadly she's another Hollywood
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Speaker 17: starlet that died way too young.
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Speaker 2: Well, police said there were no signs of foul play,
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Speaker 2: and you mentioned her ex boyfriend. She was on again,
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Speaker 2: off again relationship with this character, Brian Hickerson since twenty eighteen.
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Speaker 2: He was sentenced to forty five days in county jail
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Speaker 2: back in twenty twenty one and four years of formal
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Speaker 2: probation for a bunch of domestic violence offenses. And she
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Speaker 2: did have a restraining order against this guy that did lapse. Recently.
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Speaker 2: Meghan Kelly spoke about how those two have again been
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Speaker 2: in contact and TMC for some reason decided to give
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Speaker 2: this loser a platform. Have to listen to this. Do
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Speaker 2: you ever think about one day marrying her?
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Speaker 5: Yeah, of course, is it something that you think could
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Speaker 5: still happen?
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Speaker 16: Oh, so.
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Speaker 4: I'm sorry, she probably don't think same way, but.
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Speaker 2: You know, we probably wouldn't be good there. That was
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Speaker 2: from I can't imagine what she saw in that loser Alex.
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Speaker 2: I can barely string a sentence together.
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Speaker 17: Yeah, I mean, I'm not a drug and alcohol expert,
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Speaker 17: but I definitely get the impression that he was under
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Speaker 17: some sort of barbituate or some sort of narcotic just
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Speaker 17: the way he was talking so slow. And on top
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Speaker 17: of this, you know, she lost her brother when her
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Speaker 17: brother was twenty eight, so she's had a hard life
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Speaker 17: and no amount of money can fix depression or anxiety,
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Speaker 17: and it seems like that's why she was trying to
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Speaker 17: fill that hole in her heart with you know, alcohol
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Speaker 17: and you know substance abuse issues.
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Speaker 8: And once again it's another.
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Speaker 17: Story of a And I said this earlier, but you know,
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Speaker 17: these these Hollywood people, they they become very famous. I mean,
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Speaker 17: you look at Michael Jackson, he had a lot of issues.
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Speaker 17: He's very famous, and he's young. I mean, Macaulay colknvicing
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Speaker 17: like they're the only ones that actually kind of had
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Speaker 17: a you know, halfway decent adulthood.
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Speaker 8: So I don't know, I wouldn't make.
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Speaker 2: That even even he's had even he's had some troubles
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Speaker 2: in his adult life. Alex said, being a child star,
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Speaker 2: you need to have some very very good adults around
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Speaker 2: you or it could end very badly. Alex Stein, thank
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Speaker 2: you for your time, and that's it for me. Late
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