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Behind the Scenes at the World Cup Final, and in the Oval Office on AI · The 47 Morning Update with Ben Ferguson

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  Speaker 1: Welcome in as verdict with center Ted Cruz ben Ferguson
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  Speaker 1: with you as well.
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  Speaker 2: Center.
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  Speaker 1: You had one heck of a weekend as I was
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  Speaker 1: carrying one hundred pounds of golf equipment in Orlando, Florida
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  Speaker 1: for seven hours and fifteen minutes. If anyone was counting
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  Speaker 1: on how long that round lasted. You were at the
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  Speaker 1: World Cup living it up with yours. By the way,
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  Speaker 1: I just want to be clear your daughter picked a
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  Speaker 1: better sport watching World Cup than mine. Carrying a bag
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  Speaker 1: in the sun. Congratulations you want on that one?
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  Speaker 3: Okay, I need to ask what the hell was one
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  Speaker 3: hundred pounds? Is your son like playing golf with anples? Like,
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  Speaker 3: how exactly does that work?
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  Speaker 1: So this is what is in the bag. It's all
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  Speaker 1: the stuff. The ball is normal, that's all there.
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  Speaker 2: Right. Then you have the push cart.
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  Speaker 1: But then you have like seven or eight bottles of water,
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  Speaker 1: plus enough to eat when you're missing a meal to
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  Speaker 1: keep them like keep eating because you're out there so long.
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  Speaker 1: And when you put all that together with the rain
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  Speaker 1: gear and the umbrellas and the ice and the food,
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  Speaker 1: it is literally one hundred and something pounds that kid use.
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  Speaker 3: So is there some rule in like kids golf that
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  Speaker 3: you can't have a golf cart.
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  Speaker 2: You're not allowed to a World Championships.
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  Speaker 1: The caddy and the player must walk the entire eighteen holes.
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  Speaker 3: Just because there's like some mean jerk in charge of
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  Speaker 3: the whole thing, like like why exactly?
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  Speaker 1: I So it's very interesting if you your spectators can
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  Speaker 1: use a cart when you get there. There is it
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  Speaker 1: is straight up like if you want to say you're
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  Speaker 1: world champion, you're going to walk the whole thing and
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  Speaker 1: there will be no one to help you.
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  Speaker 2: And if you want to quit, you can quit.
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  Speaker 1: But the strongest survive it was, I mean it was
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  Speaker 1: a strongest survived scenario.
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  Speaker 2: So that's the that's how it works.
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  Speaker 1: So if you're ever board and you want a caddy,
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  Speaker 1: you it's a great workout, I assure you.
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  Speaker 3: All right, So Ben, I can give you the precise
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  Speaker 3: odds of that that would be zero points zero zero percent.
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  Speaker 3: I will not be caddy. I will cheer you on.
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  Speaker 3: By the way, I like, how did Bradley do?
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  Speaker 1: So he came in he played ten and unders in
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  Speaker 1: the under Armour Worlds and so he got the invite,
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  Speaker 1: so we did it. He's nine, so he's one of
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  Speaker 1: the youngest kids. He came in forty third in the world,
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  Speaker 1: which was awesome for him.
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  Speaker 3: Wow, that's awesome. And by the way, the difference between
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  Speaker 3: nine and ten is big. I mean, like at this age,
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  Speaker 3: a year is massive.
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  Speaker 2: It's massive.
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  Speaker 1: So our goal was to try to make it in
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  Speaker 1: the top fifty in the world, because there's one hundred
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  Speaker 1: and nine kids that got in and he came in
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  Speaker 1: forty third. So I was like, dude, you got to
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  Speaker 1: Now next year you get to come back. You automatically,
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  Speaker 1: We'll get to come back and next year you'll play
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  Speaker 1: the same course.
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  Speaker 4: Is the top fifty get in automatically.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, he'll get in automatic.
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  Speaker 4: That's the cutoffs.
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  Speaker 1: That's the cutoff. So that was the best part. So
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  Speaker 1: he is back and I told him and he was disappointed.
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  Speaker 1: He wanted to be in the top twenty. And it
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  Speaker 1: was these other kids. They were some of them had
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  Speaker 1: like two year graduating years.
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  Speaker 2: They have your your career, right.
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  Speaker 3: So the other kids, the kids that won, is it
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  Speaker 3: their drive? Do they hit the ball further?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? Is it?
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  Speaker 3: They're short gamers. They're putting like, like where is the differential?
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  Speaker 1: It's immature. You can see them. So definitely. Just how
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  Speaker 1: far they hit the ball is way like in a year,
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  Speaker 1: Bradley would probably hit the ball another twenty five to
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  Speaker 1: thirty five yards further. Minimum with the tea could be
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  Speaker 1: as much as fifty. And so when you're hitting that
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  Speaker 1: much farther, you're now hitting eight irons and pitching wedges
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  Speaker 1: and nine irons in the green, whereas then if you're back,
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  Speaker 1: you're hitting in you know, not near as accurate of shots.
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  Speaker 1: You're hitting five irons or hybrids in. And it just
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  Speaker 1: it's all the difference in the world.
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  Speaker 4: So it's I don't play golf.
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  Speaker 3: Everything you said there sounded like the teacher on Charlie Brown.
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  Speaker 3: Wow wah wah wah wah wah, why whah, but look
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  Speaker 3: like like some different clubs and the BALI goes into
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  Speaker 3: the holy.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I learned, By the way, do you
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  Speaker 1: want to know what I learned on this adventure with? Like?
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  Speaker 1: So you got to get your kid to drink enough
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  Speaker 1: water to survive. Bradley hates like energy drinks. He does
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  Speaker 1: not like anything flavored. There are electrolyte gummies, folks, I
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  Speaker 1: have found them. They work, and he would eat the
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  Speaker 1: gummies all day.
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  Speaker 2: So there. There's your tip. If you got what.
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  Speaker 3: I just heard is that Ben is feeding his son
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  Speaker 3: marijuana gummies.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's where you heard from Colorado, right, Yeah, a
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  Speaker 1: mile high gummies.
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  Speaker 3: And I gotta say, as a nine year old, he's
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  Speaker 3: the most mellow golf player you've ever seen.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. Man, the course looks great.
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  Speaker 2: It was fun. We met by the way. We had
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was quite fun. They're like when's Ted coming out?
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  Speaker 1: And somebody yelled at across the fairway during the practice route,
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  Speaker 1: like I don't know who they were. They were older
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  Speaker 1: we just kept walking. Laught.
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  Speaker 1: Now you got to go to the World Cup this weekend,
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  Speaker 1: which is awesome.
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  Speaker 1: you got not only like two cool things. One you
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  Speaker 1: got to go to the World Cup, but two you
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  Speaker 1: got to take one of your daughters with you, which
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  Speaker 1: is like that's like core memories you got to make.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, So, look Sunday, I went to the World Cup
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  Speaker 3: finals that they were in New York. Actually New Jersey
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  Speaker 3: was kind of funny. It was in New Jersey, but
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  Speaker 3: the branding was all New York slash New Jersey. I
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  Speaker 3: felt bad for New Jersey because we weren't actually in
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  Speaker 3: New York, but somehow New York got top billing.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody stayed that came to the game.
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  Speaker 1: That's the reality, right, You stay in New York City,
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  Speaker 1: then you go over to New Jersey, and then you
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  Speaker 1: get out of there as fast.
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  Speaker 2: As you can.
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  Speaker 3: So it was really fun. And I had two tickets,
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  Speaker 3: so Heidi and I were going to go. And then
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  Speaker 3: I asked my two girls, Caroline and Catherine, hey, do
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  Speaker 3: you all want to go to the World Cup. They
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  Speaker 3: both wanted to go, but my youngest daughter, Katherine, you know,
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  Speaker 3: both are girls. She's fifteen, and Catherine and I we
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  Speaker 3: do sporting events at like going back. All right, let
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  Speaker 3: me tell some history on this, going back to twenty seventeen.
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  Speaker 3: Twenty seventeen the World Series between Houston Astros and the Dodgers.
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  Speaker 4: So I was blessed.
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  Speaker 3: I went to Game three, four, and five of the
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  Speaker 3: World Series. Game three I took my dad. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: what a great chance, take your dad to a World Series.
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  Speaker 3: That's just really cool, that's incredible. Game four I took Heidi,
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  Speaker 3: total and complete waste. I adore my wife.
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  Speaker 2: She would say that right, yes, yes.
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  Speaker 3: She's my best friend in the world. But in like
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  Speaker 3: the third inning, she turned to me and said, did
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  Speaker 3: they score a touchdown? And I said, I am offended
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  Speaker 3: that you are in this stadium taking a seat that
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  Speaker 3: should be taken by a real baseball fan. All Right,
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  Speaker 3: so Game five I invite initially my daughter Caroline. And
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  Speaker 3: Caroline was nine at the time, and I adore Caroline.
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  Speaker 3: She is an incredible kid. She is brilliant, but she
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  Speaker 3: is God help her just like her dad. She is
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  Speaker 3: a pain in the ass.
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  Speaker 4: And I say that I am too. I love it.
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  Speaker 3: But I say, hey, sweetheart, do you want to go
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  Speaker 3: to the World Series? She said sure, but she said
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  Speaker 3: but I'm going to root for the Dodgers.
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  Speaker 1: And and You're like, why, oh wait, I know the
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  Speaker 1: answer this.
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  Speaker 3: So Heidi is a native Californian and so she grew
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  Speaker 3: up in California rooting for the Dodgers. But secondly, Caroline
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  Speaker 3: just did not, and at eighteen today just sort of
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  Speaker 3: likes to screw with her dad, like like she she
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  Speaker 3: knew that would piss me off. So she liked that answer.
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  Speaker 3: And my response to Caroline said, sweetheart, I love you,
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  Speaker 3: but I'll be damned if I'm going to take you
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  Speaker 3: to the game. If you're going to root for the Dodgers,
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  Speaker 3: you know, if any one you want, but I ain't
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  Speaker 3: taking you.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And Catherine, it was the day after her seventh birthday
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  Speaker 3: and she looks up with those big brown eyes. She
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  Speaker 3: blinks twice and she goes, Daddy, I'll root for the
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  Speaker 3: Astros And I said, ye, sold.
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  Speaker 2: Sold, and the smartest answer of her life.
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  Speaker 3: So I took Catherine. And if you remember Game five
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  Speaker 3: of the twenty seventeen World Series, that's the game that
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  Speaker 3: went to one thirty in the morning. Was an unbelievable game.
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  Speaker 3: And Catherine and I are jumping, we're hugging, and I
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  Speaker 3: told her she it was a day after she turned seven,
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  Speaker 3: and I said, sweetheart, you don't really appreciate this now,
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  Speaker 3: but you were going to tell your grandkids you were
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  Speaker 3: at this game. You've just witnessed the greatest game in
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  Speaker 3: the history of the Houston Astros. It was amazing and
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  Speaker 3: what that started is a tradition. Look, the Astros one
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  Speaker 3: made it to the next seven Alcs's Yep, we made
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  Speaker 3: it to four.
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  Speaker 1: World Series game that I don't know if it'll ever
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  Speaker 1: happen again.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, we made it to four World Series and we
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  Speaker 3: won too, And I told Catherine, I said, you don't understand.
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  Speaker 3: This doesn't happen. This is like a freakish perfect storm.
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  Speaker 3: And that Game five of the twenty seventeen World Series
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  Speaker 3: started a tradition where Katherine and I have gone to
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  Speaker 3: almost every single home playoff game of the Astros for
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  Speaker 3: the last eight years. And it's just what she and
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  Speaker 3: I do. We don't make it to a lot of
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  Speaker 3: regular season games because there's so many of them and
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  Speaker 3: it's hard, but you get to playoff time and I
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  Speaker 3: work in yeah, and listen, we're often in DC, I'm
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  Speaker 3: in session, and during the playoffs, I'll get on a plane,
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  Speaker 3: I'll fly home, I'll take her to the game. I'll
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  Speaker 3: go to sleep, I'll wake up at four in the morning,
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  Speaker 3: get on a plane at the krack of dawn and
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  Speaker 3: come back to DC.
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  Speaker 4: And I'll just do that.
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  Speaker 3: And so I feel immensely grateful, Like from age seven
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  Speaker 3: to age fifteen, I've been able to go to I
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  Speaker 3: don't know, forty playoff games with Catherine. I mean, it's
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  Speaker 3: been it has been the daddy daughter tradition. So on
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  Speaker 3: the World Cup, I said, okay, we got tickets to
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  Speaker 3: the finals, and Heidi wanted to go. She's like, all right,
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  Speaker 3: this sounds like fun. And Caroline wanted to go actually,
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  Speaker 3: but then Catherine really really wanted to go. And I'm
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  Speaker 3: going to give Heidi props. She said, you know what,
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  Speaker 3: I'd like to be there, but Catherine really.
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  Speaker 4: Wants to go.
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  Speaker 3: And she also said, look, she's fifteen. In a couple
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  Speaker 3: of years, she'd go off to college.
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  Speaker 4: She's going to be gone.
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  Speaker 3: This is a daddy daughter moment. So I took Catherine.
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  Speaker 3: We had a blast the game. Did you watch the game?
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  Speaker 2: It was good? Yeah? I watched it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a really good game. Now now listen,
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  Speaker 3: I'm not going to pretend that I'm a huge soccer fan.
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  Speaker 4: I haven't watched the Martian World country four years.
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  Speaker 1: That's like, and there's nothing wrong with that. Like I
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  Speaker 1: could care less World Cup happens.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, I care And by the way, this World Cup
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  Speaker 3: A were hosting. But b I loved chearing on the
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  Speaker 3: American team and it was really fun. I loved seeing
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  Speaker 3: these foreigners, these Europeans coming to America, these Japanese coming
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  Speaker 3: to America and falling in love with our country. That
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  Speaker 3: was the patriotic aspect. Did you follow Freddy online?
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I think the whole world did if you
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  Speaker 1: were online, because it was the best part of the
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  Speaker 1: whole thing.
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  Speaker 3: Look, Freddie is this this German tourist who came to
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  Speaker 3: go to the Games and he drove from like Louisiana
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  Speaker 3: to Arkansas to Texas and he just he tweeted about
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  Speaker 3: it and like he encountered a BUCkies and he's like,
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  Speaker 3: oh my god, what what is this thing? And it
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  Speaker 3: was the most beautiful I've never met Freddie. I don't
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  Speaker 3: know the guy. I don't imagine I'll ever meet him,
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  Speaker 3: but I loved his genuine love for America and watching that.
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  Speaker 3: There's another great thing that I had fun on Twitter
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  Speaker 3: retweeting these things. There was another great moment when the
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  Speaker 3: team from Norway landed at DFW and there were like
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  Speaker 3: twenty Fort Worth cops that were sitting on the tarmac
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  Speaker 3: and as the team came down, they were all doing
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  Speaker 3: the row and it was so cool, like these Fort
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  Speaker 3: Worth police officers welcome being the Norway team. That was
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  Speaker 3: an amazing thing. So I've enjoyed cheering on the Americans
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  Speaker 3: of the World Cup and then in the final, you know,
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  Speaker 3: it's interesting. I had a bunch of people ask all right,
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  Speaker 3: who are you rooting for? And I'll admit I was
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  Speaker 3: a little conflicted. Look, Argentine, yes, and I'll tell you why, Argentina.
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  Speaker 2: I want to know who are you ready for? The way?
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  Speaker 4: Okay?
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  Speaker 1: Because I lived there in the summer in ale Conte
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  Speaker 1: and fell over the people there and I was like,
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  Speaker 1: this is amazing.
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  Speaker 3: So here's why I was conflicted, a Argentina. Messi is
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  Speaker 3: one of the greatest soccer players to ever lived, and
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  Speaker 3: I just love excellence. It's sort of like Michael Jordan,
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  Speaker 3: like watching someone. Messi is by any measure, you could
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  Speaker 3: argue who the top one is, but Messi's in the
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  Speaker 3: top five any way you look at it. He's in
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  Speaker 3: the top five. And so I like excellence. But I
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  Speaker 3: actually made the decision going.
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  Speaker 4: Into the game. I'm going to root for Spain.
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  Speaker 3: And the reason is my dad, as you know, was
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  Speaker 3: born in Cuba, but my grandfather, my Abuelo, was born
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  Speaker 3: in the Canary Islands, which is part of Spain. The
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  Speaker 3: Canary Islands. My grandfather was born in the Canary Islands
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  Speaker 3: and then he came to Cuba. He was born in
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  Speaker 3: nineteen hundred he came to Cuba in nineteen oh one,
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  Speaker 3: and so so my family going back before is Spanish
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  Speaker 3: in tradition.
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  Speaker 4: So I said, all right, I'm gonna I'm gonna root
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  Speaker 4: for Spain.
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  Speaker 3: But I look, I didn't feel strongly. It was just
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  Speaker 3: sort of like, all right, who you want to root for?
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  Speaker 3: I guess, okay, since my family has origins in Spain,
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  Speaker 3: let's root for Spain. I gotta say the game number one,
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  Speaker 3: Spain dominated the game, and I'm not it was.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, they from their defense to their offense to
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  Speaker 1: everything in between.
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  Speaker 2: They were a fine oiled machine and.
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  Speaker 1: You could tell they got their mojo going and actually
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  Speaker 1: improved during the tournament. Yes, not all teams did that,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, Like you had some spotty games for
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  Speaker 1: some of the teams are spotty halves.
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: They just kept getting better.
• 15:42
  Speaker 4: Well.
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: And look, as I said, I'm not a big soccer fan.
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: I don't watch a lot of games, but in high
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: school I played soccer. So in high school I played
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: I played basketball, which was my main sport. I played
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: soccer and football, so I like all three and I enjoyed.
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: You know, I was a you know, I was a
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: right midfielder, and so you know, play offense and def
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: and I liked it, like soccer was a fun sport
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: to play.
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: Did you play soccer as.
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: A kid, And I mean when I was you know,
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: church ball as they called a kindergarten, first, second, third grade.
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: And then I was.
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: Out, Look, you were a tennis guy. You're kind of
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: a puffy, so that's okay.
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: I was not going to be a soccer player. I
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: have a hard time getting excited about sports where no
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: one wins a lot.
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: I understand. I will tell you my high school team.
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: We would slide tackle a ton and I had one
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: guy who was on my team who actually got two
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: yellow cards, which are not allowed to You're supposed to
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: get a red card and get thrown out, but the
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: refs forgot. They gave him two yellow cards because our
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: team was violent. We weren't that good, but we were violent,
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: and he wore two yellow bracelets and sort of celebration
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: of getting two yellow cards and not being thrown out
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: of a game. And we had another guy, Mike, who
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: was a buddy of mine, who was a defender who
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: would slide tackle. Was his cleats in the air and
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: he would rip like like guys shins and he became
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: a Rien Marine. He was a tough guy. But anyway,
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: so look, I like soccer playing as a kid, but
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: I'm not a big fan. But but I will say
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: the game. What was amazing is number one, the Spanish
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: offense dominated and they just eighty percent of the game
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: was played well, the Spanish offense was on offense on
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: the Argentinian side of the field, and just score after score.
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: And let me say, the Argentinian goal gold.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: Audience, what could you tell was like argentinan or was
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: actually like Spain, like not Americans there picking a team,
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: but like authentic genuine fans of the country.
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: There were a bunch of both. I don't know that
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: it felt in the stadium like one was more dominant
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: than the other. There were a bunch of Spanish fans
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: wearing Spanish colors, but there were a bunch of Argentinian fans.
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: So it was a pretty it felt pretty even. But
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: look the Spanish they were just taking shots on goal,
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: shots on goal. And that Argentinian goalkeeper, that guy played
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: an incredible game. I mean the saves that he had. Frankly,
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: at the end of the regular period, it should have
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: been three zero four zero Spain like the number of
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: shots on goal, and it was impressive that goalkeeper almost
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: single handedly kept Argentina in the game. And I was
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: really hoping. I wanted Spain to win, but I really
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: wanted Messi to score a goal. And it's kind of like,
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: you're watching, I assume this is his last hurrah. And
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: it was sort of like if you go see a
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: game of Michael Jordan or Tom Brady at the end
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: of the career, you want Jordan to win the game.
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: You want Tom Brady to throw the great touchdown pass
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: by the way I did see. So I've been to
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: one Super Bowl game in my life, and it was
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: the Super Bowl.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: I would say, what was the game?
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: Houston?
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: And it was New England versus Atlanta, and it was
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: my It was in my hometown. So I'm like, all right,
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: let's go to that. And look, I frankly didn't care
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: between New England and Atlanta, and neither of them have
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: been the Texans or even the Cowboys. I'd be rooting
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: for them, but it was not a Texas team, so
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: I was kind of indifferent. And I came in and
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: I said, look, I don't care who wins, but I
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: want a really good game. I want it close. I
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: wanted exciting, and it ended up being the first Super
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: Bowl game in history that went to overtime. And if
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: you remember, that was the overtime game where Tom Brady
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: came back and won it, and it was really cool,
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: like Brady, I think is unequivocally the goat. I used
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: to think Montana was. And when Brady moved from New
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: England to Tampa Bay, it was just the most study move.
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: And then he won again.
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: It was like, all right, I've got an amazing team,
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: I've got a fantastic you know, supporting cast. Let me
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: go somewhere else and I'm gonna win here. And it
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: was just like, all right, that that qualifies. So I
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: was thrilled to watch Brady do that overtime drive down
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: the field, and I have to admit watching it, you're
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: kind of like, yeah, they're going to win, like you
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: just it reminded me of you.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: Could tell there was momentum, and it was yeah, it
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: was hard to see where how they would lose the game.
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: So twenty years ago, I was very fortunate to go
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: to the Rose Bowl game that was Texas versus USC
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: and it was the National championship and Heidi and I went.
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: And this is long before I was in the Senate.
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: I was just you know, I was a lawyer.
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: I was SG and I went with a good buddy
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: of mine who had tickets, who invited me, and we
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: went there. By the way, this is the only argument
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: I've won in twenty five years of marriage. So we're
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: going there, Kellie.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: I believe this. I believe that this is the only
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: one I will stand by you. I think that's probably
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: very accurate.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: But keep going.
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: So we're going there.
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: And Heidi is a native California and she got a
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: bunch of family down in southern California, and she said, Okay,
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: we're going to wear USC red. And I said, sweetheart,
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: I love you, but if you do that, I'm throwing
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: you out of the truck. And Heidi just doesn't care
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: about sports. It's not a thing that matters to her.
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: And so she recognized that I did care, and so
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: I dressed my darling California wife in burn range from
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: head to toe, and we saw I think, unquestionably one
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: of the greatest college football games ever. I think it
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: may be the greatest where it we're like Vince Young,
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: the comeback, you know, we're down four minutes and fifteen
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: seconds and we're down, and just like Brady, you knew
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: that game, Vince Young was like a man among boys, yep,
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: and it was extraordinary. So that was and Brady reminded
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: me of that. Like the overtime, I had the same
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: feeling where it's just like Patriots are gonna win. So
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: I was hoping Messi would do that, like like I
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: would have loved to have been the Swan song the
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: end of an incredible career. Messi scored. I still wanted
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: Spain to win, but I wanted Messi to score. You know,
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: he had one good shot on goal from from the
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: right side of the field, but it went I think
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: high end of the right and he didn't get it.
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: But it was an awesome time. Do you know the
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: coolest part of the whole thing?
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: What was that?
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: So where we were sitting two boxes over, there were
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: a bunch of rap stars, like Drake was there, and
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: I don't even know, a bunch of rap stars that
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: I've never heard of, because I rap's not my thing,
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: so I don't know that world. But Catherine was just
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: like a gog.
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: She likes rap. I don't like rap. It's not my thing.
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: But she was like, oh, that's so and so, that's
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: so and so, and she took a couple of pictures
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: and she was so excited and she's like, Dad, can
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: we ever see them? And I'm like, sweetheart, I can
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: take you a lot of places. I'm just like, there
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: are places I've got a little bit of stroke, like
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: a box full of rock rap stars.
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: That's just not my Yeah, all power to them.
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, this is not a place where where you know,
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: Ted Cruz comes knocking on the door and they're like, yeah,
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: we're thrilled to see it. So but Catherine was ecstatic.
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: She she left and said, all right, this was the
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: coolest day of my life.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: And so there you go.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: Okay, so you got Dad, you got you, and you've
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: got dad points that will last you maybe a day
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: and a half may.
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: By the way, by the way, do you know who
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: we met and at the game? Who Drew Barrymore?
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so so it it made me feel a
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: little bad because Catherine.
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: Didn't know who Drew Barrymore was.
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, oh god, I feel old, like like
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: she like you and I grew up with her. I mean,
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: she was any tea like she was, and I'd never
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: met her, and and look, you know she's she's a
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: terrific actress. But to be honest, Republican politicians are not
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: necessarily all that popular among Hollywood actors. She was the
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: nicest person, and she was charming. We had a great
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: conversation and she was real and fun, and I like,
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: I really liked her, Like.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: Wait, by the way, that's the way it should be,
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: like I meet you know you and I were very blessed.
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: By the way. Drew is huggy.
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: So like every person she met, she'd go and hug them,
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: so like she hugged me, and I'm like, well a crap, Drew,
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: Drew Barrymore is hugging me.
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: And it was. It wasn't fake.
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: It was just kind of a real She's an expressive,
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: nice person and we had we probably spent twenty minutes
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: talking together, and it was really cool, all right.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: So I asked her, I think, did I tell you
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: when I was in New York the other day there
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: was a and I promised I would not use her name,
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: Did I I tell you who I met walking in
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: and out there hotel? Very very famous actress, And she
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: walked over and she said, you do a great job
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: on TV. I don't always agree with you, but you
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: always make me laugh. Just don't tell anybody I told
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: you that I promised. I same thing like with the
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: Barrymore thing. So kind fockingly nice. Spent multiple minutes having
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: this conversation, and then it was like, by the way,
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: don't out me or tell anybody that we like met
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: in this way. And I was like, I understand, you
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: got to keep your street credit in Hollywood.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: But the same thing with BEARNR.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: It's nice when you meet somebody like that and they're
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: actually really really kind.
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: Well, and I asked her, I said, all right, what's
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: your favorite movie you did and you know? And her
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: response was interesting. She said ET and she was a
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: little girl, but she was awesome ET. And then she
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: said Charlie's Angels and I actually hoped, Catherine, I'm actually
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: bummed Catherine didn't know Charlie's Angels.
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: That was a good movie, that was well done.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: It was a great movie.
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: And then Drew said all the Adam Sandler movies and
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: she mentioned Fifty First Dates and I told her, I said,
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: look good, I said, that's I liked Fifty First Dates.
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: That was a sweet movie. It was touching. I have
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: not met Adam Sandler. I've heard he's a conservative. I
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: have friends who know him, so I'm like one connection away.
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: But I just like Adam Sam He's funny, he's a
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: good guy, and that movie is just look, all right,
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna this is gonna weaken my like bro Creds,
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: but but I kind of like some rom coms and
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: like Fifty First Dates. It was a neat premise. But
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: the way, by the way, if you haven't watched Fifty
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: First Dates, it's.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: About it's hysterical and cute.
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: It is hysterical and cute, and it's about someone who
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: has like memory loss.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: Frontal low memory loss. Every day they forget what happened
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: the day.
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: Before, and so you end up with Adam Sandler and
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: Drew Barrymore having a first date every day and like
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: waking up not remembering their whole history. And it's just
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: it's a cute and fun show, and I like, I
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: was happy she said that was one of her favorite,
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: because that's what I would say was he was my
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: favorite of her movies.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: So you went from that back to DC straight to
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: the Oval Monday morning. Yeah, for a very interesting meeting
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: on AI at the White House.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: Talk about that a little bit.
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So I took Amtrak and came from Manhattan down
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: to DC on Monday, and then I had a meeting
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: at the Oval Monday.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: And by the way, that is.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: What we call welcome back to your real life when
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: you go from the World Cup Drew Barrymore to Amtrak
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: to DC. I just that's an interesting step down really quick.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: And that's probably got on purpose doing that.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: But keep going.
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, look look it was. And so the
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: meeting in the Oval, I was with the President. I
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: was with Marsha Blackburn, Senator from Tennessee, and I was
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: with Scott bess at the Treasury Secretary, and Kevin Hasset
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: at the head of the National Economic Council, and several
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: other members of the White House staff, and we were
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: talking about AI, artificial intelligence, and it was a discussion
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: about what to do about it. And listen, Marcia has
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: a package of bills that she's pitching. And it's a
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: package of bills. It's kids safety bills, it's requiring app
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: store to verify ages. It's a bill called no Fakes,
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: which which deals with preventing people from from pirting and competing,
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: copying people's voices and images, and so she was pitching
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: to the President, you should support my package of bills.
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: And I'm chairman of the Senate Committee on Commerce, Science, Transportation,
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: which has jurisdiction over a ton of stuff, including AI,
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: and so we're going to have a mark up in
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: the next couple of weeks on a bunch of AI bills,
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: and Marsha wants her a bill to be one of them.
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: And so she laid it out, and I got to
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: say a lot of discussions. She's pushing the president back
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: my bill, back my bill, back my bill, and I
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: stayed quiet for much of the meeting. The meeting was
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: like hour hour and a half long, and then I
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: said at the end, I said, listen, if Marcia introduces
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: the bill, I'll mark it up. I'll put it up
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: on the committee for a vote. And I said, I
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: expect all supported. All. To be honest, I'd never read
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: the bill until she had it to me, so I like,
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: she handed me a hundred page bill and I didn't
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: know what was in it, but I said, look, from
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: what she's described in it, I anticipate.
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: I'll support it.
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: But I also said it was kind of near the
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: end of the meeting, but I said, because they had
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: handed the president a truth social post supporting the bill,
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: and I said, look, someone needs to tell you this
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: bill has very little, if any chance of passing. And
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: like Trump was surprised, and I just said, look, there
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: are different elements of it.
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: Right now.
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: There are no Democrats backing this bill. It's not clear
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: that every Republican on the committee will back the bill.
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: Maybe they will, they might, And I said, let me
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: get clear. I'll mark it up and I expect to
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: vote for it. So I'm not the opposition here, but
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: I just want you to know that at this point
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: there's opposition from Democrats in the Senate, there's opposition potentially
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: from some Republicans in the Senate, and there's strong opposition
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: on aspects of the bill from Republican leadership in the House.
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: And so I just said, I don't want you to
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: be surprised. You lean in and say let's go pass
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: this bill and then it doesn't pass. And so Trump said,
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: all right, well, then I'm not going to support it.
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: I don't want to support something that doesn't have a
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: path to passage. And so we're going to mark up
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: a series of bills. I've told Marshap she wants me
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: to mark up her bill.
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: We will. I don't know she will ask for it
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: or not.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: Can you ask a politics question on this?
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: How much of her bill is her pushing because she's
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: running for governor and really trying to get Tennessee's hands
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: on a lot of AI and AI infrastructure and AI
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: in the state. Not blame her for that, but like,
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: is that part of this hardcore push where you're in
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: the Senate You're going I understand both sides of this
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: or am I reading the room wrong?
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: So listen, they're different components of it. So let's take
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: the different elements of the bill. The first bill is COSA,
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: and COSA is a kid's safety bill. It's a good bill.
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: I've supported it. I've voted for it in the last Congress.
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: It passed the Senate ninety three to three. So I'm
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: all four COSA. I'm a yes, I want it to pass.
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: Here's the problem. After it passed the Senate ninety three
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: to three, it went to the House and the House
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: refused to take it up. Why because because the Speaker
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: of the House and Steve Scalise, the Majority leader, opposed
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: the bill. And the bill puts what's called a duty
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: of care on the tech companies that that that if
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: there's content that harms kids, they can be sued, and
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: the House leadership doesn't support that. And so look, frankly,
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: what I told Marsha a year and a half ago
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: is I said, listen, Mop, I'll back COOS again. We
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: can pass it again. I'm fine with that, but it
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: will never become law until you sit down with Johnson
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: and Scalise and work out an agreement. Because if they
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  Speaker 3: refuse to take up the bill, you want to pass
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  Speaker 3: it again.
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  Speaker 4: We can do it. You'll get mine.
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  Speaker 2: They're not going to take it up.
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  Speaker 3: If the House won't take it up, it's not going
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  Speaker 3: to become in the US Code. And so I said,
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  Speaker 3: what you need to do is sit down and negotiate
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  Speaker 3: a compromise and it won't be everything you want, but
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  Speaker 3: you need to find something the House is willing to
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  Speaker 3: pass that hasn't happened. So that's a real impediment. I'm
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  Speaker 3: going to vote for COSA. I want COSA to pass,
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  Speaker 3: but right now the House is not going to take
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  Speaker 3: it up. There's a second component, which is called the
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  Speaker 3: App Store Accountability app, which is putting liability on an
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  Speaker 3: app store for age verification. Now, there are a couple
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  Speaker 3: of problems with that. Number One, there are tech companies
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  Speaker 3: like Meta, like Facebook that support it, but Apple and
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  Speaker 3: Google hate it because they're the app stores and they're like, wait,
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  Speaker 3: you're making me liable. So Apple and Google don't like it,
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  Speaker 3: and so they're both the tech companies are divided. They're
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  Speaker 3: lobbying on both sides. And there's a competing bill that
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  Speaker 3: is called the Parents Over Platforms Bill, which is frankly
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  Speaker 3: the Apple and Google bill, and there are several Republicans
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  Speaker 3: on the committee that support that bill. And so I said, look,
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  Speaker 3: this is just a pissing match between giant tech companies.
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  Speaker 3: I'd like to see age verification. I support age verification,
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  Speaker 3: I'm pushing for it. But every Democrat opposes age verification.
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  Speaker 3: So I said, listen, it's a simple math. If you
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  Speaker 3: lose all the Democrats and if you're losing some Republicans,
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  Speaker 3: I don't see how this passes.
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  Speaker 4: Like it's just a math.
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  Speaker 3: Like I'm not opposed to it, I will vote yes,
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  Speaker 3: but how do you get to the votes to pass it?
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: There is additionally her bill no Fakes Now no Fakes.
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  Speaker 3: I'm on the Judiciary Committee. Judiciary Committee has already passed
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  Speaker 3: no Fakes. It was a voice vote. I was fine
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  Speaker 3: with it. No Fakes has a lot of good elements
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  Speaker 3: to it, So no fakes is protecting. Say you have
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  Speaker 3: a musician and someone uses AI to create a fake
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  Speaker 3: song for a musician, it makes you liable for that.
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  Speaker 3: In politics. By the way, this is coming. It hasn't
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  Speaker 3: really happened yet, but it's coming soon. You're going to
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  Speaker 3: see someone create AI and take a video of a
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  Speaker 3: politician a fake video and be like we should eat
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  Speaker 3: live kittens, and it's going to be you're not going
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  Speaker 3: to be able to tell that it's fake, like it's
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  Speaker 3: going to appear to be the real problem.
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  Speaker 2: You can have to respond to a ridiculous, absurd video, right.
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: And by the way, Amy Klovichar last year had a
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: video of a hearing where she said a bunch of
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: things that were derogatory that she would never have said,
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: but it looked entirely real and she had to respond
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  Speaker 3: to that. That's going to explode a lot. So finding
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  Speaker 3: some protections to say, look, someone can't use your name
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  Speaker 3: image and likeness and create a counterfeit that nobody knows
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  Speaker 3: is fake. I'm quite supportive of that. When the judiciary
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  Speaker 3: passed this bill, there were several Republicans Mike Lee, Eric Schmidt,
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  Speaker 3: and myself who raised free speech concern because the way
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: the language is written it's quite broad. So, for example,
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: Trump send out the meme of a Keem Jeffries and
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: Chuck Schumer wearing sombrero singing yes, now that was parody,
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: it wasn't real, and I've retweeted it then amplified it.
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  Speaker 3: But there is an argument that under the language and
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: no fakes, that could be banned. Now there is some
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: language saying bonafide satire is okay, but there's a lot
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: of gray area. You think of Spencer Pratt and the
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: hysterical ads he put out with Gavin Newsom and Karen
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: Bass just like doing horrible things to people of California.
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: I have a concern that under the language and no fakes,
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: the tech platforms would take down those ads because they'd say,
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: you're using Gavin Newsom's image in a way that he
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  Speaker 3: has not approved. And so my point was, look, I'd
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: love to see this get done, but I also want
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  Speaker 3: to protect free speech. So my point to the President was, Hey,
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: if you want to endorse this, great, I've got no
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: problem with it, but you need to know that I
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: don't see a path that this actually gets to pass
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  Speaker 3: in the Senate take sixty votes. Given that I don't
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: know of a single Democrat supporting this bill, and there
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: may be Republicans opposing this bill, the math doesn't work.
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: And so the President decided not to support it. Listen,
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: I still expect that we will take up in the
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: next couple of weeks a series of AI bills. And
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: by the way, we will do a podcast when we
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: do that markup where we talk about the AI bills
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: we pass. But what I'm trying to do right now
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: is find all right, let me use a Kamala Harris
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: phrase the ven diagram, that is the intersection of what
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: bills could make a positive impact protecting people from some
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: of the harms of AI yep, but at the same
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: time that have a real pass to passage. And so
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: we'll move several bills on that. But I'm trying to
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: find exactly the right intersection right there. And and so
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: we had that conversation, and the President agreed with me.
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