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S1E30 - 'Street Noises Invade the House' · Dished at Birth

• 0:00
  KARA: Hi.
• 0:01
  DANI: Hi.
• 0:01
  DANI: Wow.
• 0:02
  Last episode.
• 0:03
  KARA: I really cannot believe it.
• 0:05
  DANI: That's so many that we've done.
• 0:07
  KARA: Episode 30.
• 0:08
  DANI: 30.
• 0:08
  KARA: 30 episodes.
• 0:09
  DANI: That means we've done 31 'cause we did a bonus episode.
• 0:12
  KARA: Oh my God, yeah, that's true.
• 0:14
  DANI: Wow.
• 0:15
  KARA: Wow.
• 0:15
  All worth it, though.
• 0:16
  Yeah.
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  It's been fun.
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  I've been enjoying this journey.
• 0:19
  DANI: I know.
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  Can't wait for season two.
• 0:21
  KARA: What's up with us?
• 0:22
  Fantastic news.
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  I have new cochlear implants.
• 0:24
  DANI: Oh my God, guys.
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  It only took-
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  KARA: Like two years.
• 0:28
  DANI: It only took us recording 30 episodes for,
• 0:31
  for this saga to be complete.
• 0:34
  KARA: Literally.
• 0:34
  I'm wearing them right now.
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  They work fine.
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  They work great.
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  DANI: Do you notice any difference?
• 0:38
  KARA: No.
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  Which I knew coming in.
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  DANI: Were they just like we're updating… Is it like when Apple's
• 0:43
  new iPhone, and it's the same iPhone?
• 0:45
  KARA: Yeah.
• 0:46
  Well, the old ones were glitchy anyway.
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  Okay.
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  They kept turning on and off.
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  Like if I hit them just so-
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  DANI: They
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  KARA: would turn off … they would glitch.
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  Yeah, which-
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  DANI: Okay.
• 0:53
  Well, so then that's an improvement, right?
• 0:55
  KARA: This is very much an improvement, and also I notice the Bluetooth for
• 0:59
  these new implants are really good.
• 1:01
  DANI: Ooh.
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  KARA: They connect instantly.
• 1:02
  DANI: That's really nice.
• 1:03
  KARA: It doesn't take as long.
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  Yeah, yeah.
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  So that I'm really content with.
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  And I like the color.
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  It's all brown now, and smaller.
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  DANI: Yeah, they really blend in.
• 1:12
  KARA: So I'm enjoying that.
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  I like the look.
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  It's nice and sleek and cute.
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  DANI: Do they make them in fun colors?
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  KARA: No, they only do boring colors.
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  They do black, brown, tan, white.
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  I think that's it.
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  DANI: I'm just thinking 'cause you have a lot of jewelry on your ear already-
• 1:27
  KARA: Yeah.
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  DANI: So, like, it'd be fun if you, if you could color coordinate.
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  Obviously, it's a piece of medical equipment, so it's not, like, fun.
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  KARA: But- Well, what I used to do is- I think my mom found them on Etsy
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  or something, but I used to have fun stickers I could put on my implants.
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  DANI: That's cute.
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  KARA: So I had, like… I remember going to a football game.
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  My mom gave me, like, football stickers to put on.
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  DANI: That's so cute.
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  KARA: Or soccer or-
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  DANI: Yeah.
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  KARA: Candy ones.
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  DANI: Yeah.
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  KARA: It's easier to do, like, hearing aid accessories 'cause… How do I explain it?
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  Like, if you had the mold in your ear with the tube coming out, you can,
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  like, dangle things off the tube.
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  DANI: Yeah.
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  But with this wire, would that be bad?
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  KARA: Well, it's right next to my processor, so I would just
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  hear it dangling constantly.
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  DANI: Oh, so true.
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  KARA: It would annoy the hell out of me.
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  DANI: Yeah.
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  KARA: Yeah, 'cause the processor is right on top of the wire, so
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  if I had something here, I would just constantly hear it rustling.
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  Yeah.
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  There is a company,
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  a deaf-owned company though which, whose name is escaping me, but they do
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  create, like, cochlear implant and hearing aid jewelry that you can put on them.
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  DANI: Very cool.
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  KARA: Yeah.
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  But it's more, like, ear cuffs or just any jewelry you can put on
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  your ears that don't get in the way.
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  DANI: Mm, yeah, 'cause I imagine that would be quite annoying.
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  That's part of the reason I don't have any ear piercings, is I have so many sensory-
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  KARA: 'Cause of your hearing aids?
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  DANI: I have so many sensory issues.
• 2:45
  KARA: Sure.
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  DANI: It looks so pretty to have a lot of jewelry on your ear, but I think, for
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  me, I would feel all of it all the time.
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  KARA: The biggest obstacle is if you have implants and hearing aids plus glasses.
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  DANI: Oh, God.
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  KARA: Cause that's so much shit on your ears.
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  DANI: So much stuff on your ear.
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  KARA: My biggest fear is I'll need glasses.
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  DANI: Yeah.
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  If I'm wearing, like, a mask on the subway and sunglasses and-
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  KARA: They would fall off.
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  DANI: My, my headphones are ear clippy ones.
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  They clip around my ear.
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  KARA: Sure.
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  DANI: 'Cause the, because of my sensory issues, AirPods really hurt my ears.
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  So they, like, clip on the outside of my ear, and just having three
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  things, I'm like, "Oh my god."
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  KARA: Ah.
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  DANI: Yeah.
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  KARA: Yeah, that's true.
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  The mask was a lot.
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  DANI: Mm-hmm.
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  KARA: With the hear- with my implants, too.
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  DANI: Yeah.
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  How?
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  That wouldn't have been good.
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  Did you do the, like, around the head one?
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  I feel like that would be easier back in the day.
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  KARA: I did have those sometimes, but usually I just got, like,
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  the normal medical mask.
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  DANI: Yeah.
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  KARA: And I wore them, and it was for public safety, so.
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  DANI: Right.
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  KARA: I sucked it up.
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  DANI: It just, like… I feel like-
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  KARA: But yeah, I would get-
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  DANI: it would mess with the-
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  KARA: Yeah, the scars behind the ear where they actually do
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  the incision for the surgery.
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  So sometimes it would irritate the scar.
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  DANI: Yeah.
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  That's no fun.
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  KARA: Yeah.
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  DANI: Well, shout-out to vaccines.
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  KARA: Shout-out to vaccines.
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  Really big fan of those.
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  DANI: I mean, COVID's still around and a big problem, but the vaccines have helped.
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  KARA: And you should be getting your boosters, guys.
• 4:02
  DANI: Yeah, get your booster.
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  KARA: We should talk about Elephant Shoes.
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  DANI: Oh my God, we gotta talk about Elephant Shoes.
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  KARA: Yeah.
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  DANI: You guys, we had the best time.
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  KARA: Yeah.
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  DANI: I cried, I laughed.
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  KARA: What is Elephant Shoes?
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  DANI: It's Deaf West's first original musical.
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  So Deaf West famously did the really popular revival of Spring Awakening.
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  KARA: Mm-hmm.
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  DANI: So good, which I had the pleasure of seeing when it was still in a small
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  space before it went to Broadway.
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  And then they've also done American Idiot.
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  KARA: They did that last year, yeah.
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  They did Pippin.
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  DANI: They did Pippin, which I also had the privilege of seeing.
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  But this is their first original.
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  KARA: Yeah, it's not on Broadway yet.
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  DANI: No, they're, they're clearly doing a soft test, so they were
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  performing at Two River Theater in New Jersey, which was a great theater.
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  I would love to go back there.
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  Beautiful theater.
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  KARA: Yeah.
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  DANI: Beautiful, super intimate.
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  KARA: Yeah, it was beautiful.
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  Daniel Durant was the lead.
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  It was in ASL and English, and it had really cool, innovative, dynamic captions.
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  DANI: Yeah.
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  KARA: And apparently this is, I believe it's the most expensive
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  production Two River Theater has ever done, and you can tell they put
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  so much work and thought into it.
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  DANI: Yeah, and the set design was also beautiful.
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  KARA: Amazing.
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  DANI: It was so interesting.
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  I also just like, I was a little bit nervous about like a rom-com
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  musical, and I feel like they did… They struck a really nice balance
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  of like, I was actually laughing.
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  There were some corny things.
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  Every musical's gonna be a little corny.
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  KARA: Yeah.
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  DANI: Even the corny stuff I enjoyed, and I was crying a lot, like really
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  great actual emotional scenes in it.
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  Also, the guy that played the hot guy, so hot.
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  KARA: He's so hot.
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  DANI: He was in Evita on the West End, 'cause-
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  KARA: Good for him.
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  DANI: I texted Milena to be like, "That guy was so hot.
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  He was saying hi to people after the show.
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  I couldn't even go up to him 'cause he was so beautiful in person."
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  KARA: I know.
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  DANI: And she looked him up on Instagram, and she was like, "Oh, yeah,
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  he played the really hot husband in Evita- Wow … with Rachel Ziegler."
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  KARA: That's awesome.
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  Yeah, it's a great love triangle story.
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  Very fresh, very new take.
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  DANI: Some of the songs really banged.
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  KARA: Yeah, I like some of the songs.
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  I love the set design.
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  I love the captions, and I love the acting and the signing.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah, 10 out of 10.
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  DANI: Yeah, I think one thing that… And it's not Deaf West's fault at all,
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  it's like just a misconception, but I feel like whenever I tell people
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  about Deaf West shows, they're like, "Well, I don't know sign language."
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  And I'm like, "No, that's what's beautiful is you don't need to know sign language."
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  KARA: You don't.
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  DANI: They had… All of the signing was either… They, they worked an
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  interpreter plot line into the plot.
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  KARA: Mm-hmm.
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  DANI: So there were interpreters on stage who were characters actively in the show.
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  KARA: Yes.
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  DANI: And so all the signing was either interpreted or captioned or, like,
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  really contextual, made complete sense.
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  KARA: Yes, exactly.
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  DANI: And then all of the speaking conversations were live captioned.
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  KARA: Yes.
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  DANI: Like above their heads, and dynamic captions, which was really cool.
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  KARA: So cool.
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  I loved it.
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  Yeah, the only-
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  DANI: And there was a lot of texting.
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  There was a lot of, like, texting communication happening.
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  KARA: Yeah, and they would show, like, the texting on the screen.
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  DANI: On the screen, yeah.
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  KARA: Which was helpful.
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  Yeah, I was talking to a Deaf friend of mine after, and this is after you
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  already left, but he was like, "I loved it. My one complaint is that I
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  wish they had captions the full time."
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  DANI: Right.
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  For people who don't sign.
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  KARA: For people who don't sign, but he was like, "I also just wanted to see how
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  they would translate the ASL to English."
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  DANI: Mm-hmm.
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  KARA: And I, and I… Yeah, I wanted to see that, and I wanted
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  captions on the stage the whole time.
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  Yeah.
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  DANI: Do you agree with that?
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  KARA: I think I do.
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  DANI: Okay.
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  KARA: But I also just really liked how creative the use of the captions was.
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  Like, it was on, like, a billboard setting, and then they also had, like,
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  these see-through screens where captions-
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  DANI: Yeah.
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  KARA: Would come up.
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  DANI: The screen was really cool.
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  KARA: Yeah, it was kinda, like, projected, but it didn't look like it was projected.
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  DANI: Yes, it looked like the words were floating in air-
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  KARA: Yeah, it was beautiful.
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  DANI: Kind of above their heads.
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  And I think that… I would hope… I think there was a question
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  about this in the talk back.
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  Like, I… That is such an innovative piece of tech.
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  Why can't we have that?
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  KARA: I think it was… I think the point was I think this is
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  the first time they've done this.
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  DANI: Yes, but, like, the point I'm making is looking at… I'm really
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  hoping this makes a Broadway transfer, and it opens up a conversation of
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  people saying, "Hey, I would love to know what the fuck they're saying."
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  'Cause, like, okay, for instance, a lot of shows… I've seen Lost Boys now twice,
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  and I had a better time the second time hearing the actual lyrics in the songs.
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  KARA: Mm-hmm.
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  DANI: But this has been a consistent complaint of mine, is that especially
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  if you're sitting in a poorly sound-balanced area in the theater-
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  You just, if, if the show doesn't have a cast recording out when you're
• 8:51
  hearing those songs for the first time, I'm missing whole chunks of story.
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  KARA: Yeah, for sure.
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  DANI: It would be really cool to have captions on a screen like
• 9:01
  that, even if it's just, like, at the very top of the theater.
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  KARA: Like they do in opera.
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  DANI: Yes.
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  KARA: Like I've been saying.
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  DANI: Yes.
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  And also, a lot of people who are able to afford to go consistently to the
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  theater are older and tend to wear hearing aids or have some hearing loss.
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  I mean, when we were at that show, I would say two-thirds of the audience, it was a
• 9:24
  Saturday matinee, I would say two-thirds of the audience were over the age of 60.
• 9:28
  KARA: Yeah.
• 9:29
  Yeah, that makes sense.
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  DANI: 'Cause that's who can afford to and has the time to support theater.
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  And so I'm sure for those people, a lot of them stayed for the talk-back
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  and didn't know any sign language.
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  KARA: Yes.
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  DANI: And there were comments from them just about, like, how
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  wonderfully accessible it was.
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  KARA: Yeah, for these random hearing people-
• 9:46
  DANI: Yeah.
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  KARA: Who've never seen it before, they loved it.
• 9:48
  DANI: Curb cut effect.
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  KARA: Exactly.
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  DANI: Yeah.
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  KARA: Should we do it?
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  Should we do our very last episode?
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  DANI: Ooh, let's get to it.
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  KARA: Whoo.
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  Season one, episode 30, Street Noises Invade the House.
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  October 22nd, 2012 is when it aired.
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  DANI: True to form, I did not look up the painting.
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  KARA: Yeah.
• 10:19
  It's a 1911 painting, different title, though.
• 10:22
  It's called The Street Enters the House.
• 10:24
  DANI: Oh.
• 10:25
  KARA: Which is confusing.
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  By Umberto, I'm sorry, guys, Boccioni?
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  Boccioni.
• 10:31
  DANI: That feels right.
• 10:32
  KARA: Yeah.
• 10:32
  It's a futurist-style painting, and it shows a woman on a balcony.
• 10:37
  She's in front of a busy street with the sounds of activity below, I guess being
• 10:42
  portrayed as a bunch of shapes and colors.
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  Futurist painting is kind of like Picasso.
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  It's just, like, very triangle-shaped and bright colors.
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  DANI: It's not really my vibe.
• 10:53
  KARA: It was fine.
• 10:54
  I think it's called that because there were major disruptions in the family.
• 10:58
  DANI: Sure.
• 10:59
  KARA: Street noises invade the house.
• 11:00
  DANI: And they are invading.
• 11:02
  KARA: Yeah.
• 11:02
  DANI: We open on Daphne looking lovingly at her birth control packet.
• 11:08
  This was a real throwback for me.
• 11:10
  I haven't seen one of those in years.
• 11:12
  KARA: It looks like a commercial for birth control.
• 11:14
  DANI: But it's just to tell us that she and Chef Jeff did, in fact, have
• 11:18
  sex at the end of the last episode.
• 11:19
  KARA: A crime was committed.
• 11:19
  DANI: Yes.
• 11:20
  A crime was committed, and she's laughing.
• 11:23
  She's going, "Ha ha." She's getting a text from… Well, Regina walks in and is like,
• 11:29
  "They want us back in court," and she's like, "Okay." Her birth control, in a bag,
• 11:33
  in a CVS bag, out on her desk or whatever.
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  She looks down at her phone.
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  She has a text from Chef Jeff.
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  She goes, "Ha ha ha." She throws her head back and laughs, and
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  Regina's like, "Okay," and then she says something else to her.
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  I don't know.
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  Regina's trying to carry on a conversation with Daphne, and Daphne's-
• 11:50
  KARA: And Daphne's just, yeah.
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  DANI: Half, half looking at her, half looking at her phone.
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  Laugh, laugh, laughing, not being subtle at all, and Regina's like,
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  "What's up?" And she's like, "It's just somebody from work." If you're a mother.
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  KARA: Ask questions.
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  DANI: Her reaction to that is, "God, you really love that job, don't you?"
• 12:07
  KARA: It's not the job, honey.
• 12:08
  DANI: If in the last episode, you were told by your daughter that she has a
• 12:12
  crush on her boss, and that she was upset that her boss was sleeping with Melody,
• 12:16
  and that it was, like, a whole thing-
• 12:18
  KARA: I know.
• 12:19
  DANI: Use your brain.
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  Would you not connect the dots and say, "Huh, she's looking at
• 12:22
  her phone and giggling a lot.
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  Must be a boy or something," and then Daphne confirms it's,
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  quote, "someone at work"?
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  Jesus Christ.
• 12:30
  KARA: Ask one more question.
• 12:32
  That's all you had to do.
• 12:33
  DANI: That's all you had to do.
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  But she chooses not to.
• 12:36
  Also, this is a Halloween episode to end the season for some reason.
• 12:41
  KARA: Yeah.
• 12:42
  DANI: Have we forgotten that the girls' birthday is in October?
• 12:45
  KARA: Skipped right over that.
• 12:46
  DANI: We just didn't do their 17th birthday?
• 12:49
  It must be October 30th, because Regina asks Daphne if she's going
• 12:53
  to have to work tomorrow night.
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  Like-
• 12:55
  KARA: Is tomorrow night being-
• 12:56
  DANI: I can't believe I'm making you work tomorrow night, and Daphne says,
• 12:59
  yes, we're doing a whole thing with pumpkins, and the waiters are dressing up.
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  KARA: Oh.
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  DANI: So it must be Halloween or, like, Halloweekend.
• 13:07
  In which case it's their fucking birthday.
• 13:10
  KARA: So I guess canonically they should be 17.
• 13:13
  DANI: Yeah.
• 13:14
  KARA: Okay.
• 13:15
  DANI: So that's why Daphne's not stressed.
• 13:16
  She said, "I actually just turned 17, age of consent. It's no longer a crime."
• 13:21
  KARA: Oh, that's so true.
• 13:22
  Well, they didn't explicitly say that to us, so.
• 13:24
  DANI: No, they didn't, but I'm trying to.
• 13:26
  KARA: Trying to justify what's happening.
• 13:27
  DANI: It happened off-screen.
• 13:28
  I'm trying to fill in some gaps here, 'cause what do you mean they skipped
• 13:31
  their birthday but they went out of their way to say it's Halloween?
• 13:34
  They could have just not done that.
• 13:36
  KARA: I know.
• 13:37
  I don't know.
• 13:37
  DANI: Okay.
• 13:38
  So yeah, Bay is with Zarra.
• 13:41
  KARA: Yeah, she was in the trailer.
• 13:42
  Bay, true to her mom's form, is also decorating for Halloween.
• 13:47
  DANI: Yeah.
• 13:47
  KARA: Which I thought was sweet.
• 13:48
  Like mother, like daughter.
• 13:49
  DANI: That's the Kathryn Kennish in her.
• 13:50
  KARA: Yeah.
• 13:51
  She's in the Halloween spirit.
• 13:52
  She's carving a pumpkin outside the trailer.
• 13:55
  Zarra gets a call from her dad, and she's like, "Bay, guess where he is.
• 13:59
  He's in Mexico. I wanna go see him."
• 14:01
  DANI: Yeah.
• 14:01
  KARA: He's also an artist like Zarra is.
• 14:03
  Remember, he's the one that kinda just up and left her.
• 14:06
  DANI: Yeah, who she should hate, but she maybe really admires.
• 14:10
  KARA: Very odd.
• 14:10
  DANI: And Bay's like, "Okay, you're gonna pay me back first though, right?"
• 14:14
  KARA: And Zarra's like, "Yeah."
• 14:15
  DANI: Zarra's like, "Duh, of course, obviously."
• 14:18
  KARA: At the same time, Bay is getting call after call from
• 14:21
  Kathryn, and she is ignoring it.
• 14:23
  DANI: Yes, but she finally picks up because Zarra's like, "She's gonna send
• 14:27
  the cops after you." And Kathryn is being so nice and gentle, and then John is in
• 14:32
  the background like, "Tell me where she is." And Kathryn's like, "hi, sweetie."
• 14:36
  KARA: "Hi, come home."
• 14:38
  DANI: I am more on John's side.
• 14:40
  I think Kathryn using kid gloves is not working.
• 14:44
  They're coddling her.
• 14:45
  KARA: They are.
• 14:46
  Like, come on, it's time to go.
• 14:48
  DANI: Yeah.
• 14:49
  KARA: Get your ass home.
• 14:50
  We're at Maize.
• 14:51
  DANI: Guess who's here?
• 14:52
  The owner, HR, basically.
• 14:54
  HR finally showed up.
• 14:56
  KARA: She introduces herself to Daphne.
• 14:59
  Daphne's coming in for a shift to make pumpkin food.
• 15:01
  Michelle shakes her hand and says, "Hi. I have some questions about you
• 15:06
  and your relationship with Chef Jeff."
• 15:08
  DANI: She's not subtle about it.
• 15:10
  KARA: No.
• 15:10
  DANI: She does not beat around the bush.
• 15:11
  She says, "I'm here because someone said you guys are dating."
• 15:14
  KARA: Yeah.
• 15:14
  Also, again, we don't know her age 'cause the show forgot her-
• 15:18
  DANI: Her birthday, yeah.
• 15:19
  KARA: The 17th birthday.
• 15:19
  But I was like, her mom should be in this room.
• 15:22
  I feel like she's being interrogated.
• 15:23
  DANI: Yeah, and so they're in, like, a back room, and Daphne keeps
• 15:27
  being like, "I should really wait for an interpreter 'cause I don't
• 15:30
  really understand you," which I think is a good strategy on her end.
• 15:33
  KARA: Yeah, great strategy.
• 15:34
  DANI: Um, but the woman's like, "No, no, you're not in trouble."
• 15:39
  KARA: Yeah, the owner, Michelle, is like,
• 15:41
  "You didn't do anything wrong, sweetie." Pretty much insinuating
• 15:45
  that Chef Jeff sexually harassed her.
• 15:46
  DANI: Right, and she does finally use the word we've been begging people
• 15:49
  to use this whole season, victim.
• 15:52
  She says, "It's not your fault if you were a victim."
• 15:54
  KARA: Also, abuse of power.
• 15:56
  DANI: Abuse of power.
• 15:57
  Thank God.
• 15:58
  KARA: I know.
• 15:58
  DANI: Finally, someone's fucking saying it.
• 15:59
  Unfortunately, the way she's going about it is not great.
• 16:03
  KARA: Also, as a child, I would be terrified if someone was saying,
• 16:06
  "It's okay. Maybe you did sexual favors to get a promotion, but
• 16:10
  it's okay, it's not your fault."
• 16:11
  DANI: She's also implying that, yeah, Daphne was promoted too fast, which
• 16:14
  is fucked up because Daphne was hired-
• 16:17
  KARA: She's working.
• 16:17
  DANI: But also she was hired much higher, and then Jeff demoted her-
• 16:21
  KARA: Yes.
• 16:21
  DANI: And then just re-promoted her.
• 16:23
  So I am confused.
• 16:25
  Like, wouldn't the owner know that?
• 16:26
  Wouldn't she see that in the record?
• 16:28
  She wasn't hired to wash dishes.
• 16:30
  She was hired to cook.
• 16:31
  KARA: I also think it's just obvious, in the workplace anyway, from probably other.
• 16:35
  DANI: Right, obviously.
• 16:36
  And so Daphne, this was smart of her to do.
• 16:39
  It's fucked up, but she's like, "Well, Scuba was fired on the same
• 16:43
  day that I rejected him, and I think he took that a little personally
• 16:46
  and maybe spread some rumors."
• 16:47
  KARA: Great point.
• 16:48
  DANI: Great strategy, Daphne, but it's too late.
• 16:51
  It's, like, very obvious.
• 16:53
  They've made it very obvious that something's happening.
• 16:55
  KARA: Yeah.
• 16:55
  DANI: And I think this woman is failing to consider that Daphne is panicked
• 17:00
  for her boyfriend, not for herself.
• 17:02
  KARA: Yes.
• 17:03
  DANI: Obviously, so that's tough.
• 17:06
  Back at Zarra's trailer.
• 17:08
  KARA: Yes.
• 17:08
  DANI: Bay is like, "I'm gonna try to emancipate myself." And
• 17:11
  Zarra's like, "Damn, where I come from, people just run away, girl.
• 17:14
  But, like, okay, you do you." Bay, it takes so long to go through the court
• 17:18
  system, and you canonically just turned 17, even though nobody's talking about it.
• 17:23
  Just wait it out.
• 17:24
  Just wait it out.
• 17:25
  It's one more year.
• 17:26
  Give it a rest.
• 17:27
  KARA: I know.
• 17:28
  DANI: I like that Zarra's trailer was super cute, Zarra's abandoned
• 17:31
  trailer in the abandoned trailer park.
• 17:33
  KARA: This doesn't look abandoned.
• 17:34
  This looks like a beautiful camper.
• 17:36
  She's turned this house into a home.
• 17:37
  DANI: Exactly.
• 17:38
  KARA: But not for long because there's some banging outside, and
• 17:42
  it's Smak and his gang of artists?
• 17:45
  DANI: Yeah.
• 17:46
  I don't typically assume that- Even street artists are going to be violent people.
• 17:52
  But these guys have baseball bats and scary Halloween masks on.
• 17:56
  KARA: They look like they're going to murder.
• 17:58
  DANI: Yeah.
• 17:58
  KARA: Zarra.
• 17:59
  DANI: And Zarra, I think rightfully, Bay freaks out.
• 18:02
  Zarra does grab a big-ass pumpkin carving knife.
• 18:04
  KARA: Yes.
• 18:05
  DANI: And it's, and Bay eyes it like, "Oh my God, what are you gonna do with
• 18:08
  that?" I think this situation it, it is actually appropriate to have a knife.
• 18:13
  KARA: They have a baseball bat and they are going to break in.
• 18:16
  DANI: Yeah.
• 18:16
  Like.
• 18:17
  KARA: I'm grabbing a weapon.
• 18:18
  DANI: Yeah.
• 18:19
  And Bay tries to call the police.
• 18:20
  Zarra says, "No, they'll just arrest all of us again."
• 18:23
  KARA: All right.
• 18:23
  DANI: I feel that that's probably still better than whatever Smak
• 18:27
  and his gang plan to do to you.
• 18:29
  But Bay clearly instead shoots Toby a text.
• 18:32
  Conveniently, Smak and his gang do not hit the one trailer in the whole
• 18:37
  trailer park that looks lived in and beautiful, and, like, it actively have,
• 18:42
  has people going in and out of it.
• 18:44
  KARA: Yes.
• 18:44
  DANI: They just hit all the really empty ones, leave that one alone.
• 18:48
  Maybe they think that someone real actually lives there that's not Zarra,
• 18:52
  and so they don't wanna bother them.
• 18:54
  Who knows?
• 18:54
  But they're skulking around.
• 18:56
  KARA: Yeah, they're kicking the doors down.
• 18:58
  DANI: Yeah.
• 18:58
  And so Toby shows up.
• 19:01
  KARA: He does.
• 19:02
  DANI: And says, "Hey Bay, got your text."
• 19:04
  No urgency at all in his voice.
• 19:06
  Bay's like, "Okay, great, we gotta go right now." Grabs him,
• 19:10
  they start running towards.
• 19:11
  KARA: Sprinting.
• 19:12
  DANI: Sprinting towards Toby's nice-ass car.
• 19:15
  KARA: BMW.
• 19:16
  DANI: The second, it's, it is shining in the trailer park sun.
• 19:19
  The second they get out there, Smak and his gang see them,
• 19:23
  start running towards them.
• 19:24
  Toby's still confused.
• 19:25
  He's not going fast enough.
• 19:27
  These people take fucking forever to get inside this car.
• 19:30
  KARA: I cannot believe it.
• 19:31
  Just get in.
• 19:32
  DANI: Also, I don't know.
• 19:34
  This is maybe just me, and would never be true in a show, but, like, if a man was
• 19:39
  chasing me with a baseball bat and I got in my car, I would be backing into him.
• 19:43
  I would not-
• 19:44
  KARA: I was also thinking that.
• 19:45
  DANI: I would not be driving away, or if I did drive away, I'd go whoop,
• 19:49
  turn around, hit him from the front on.
• 19:51
  That's a threat.
• 19:52
  KARA: Yeah.
• 19:53
  DANI: And-
• 19:54
  KARA: All over some street art?
• 19:55
  Kansas City artists killing each other?
• 19:59
  DANI: Yeah.
• 19:59
  Who knew?
• 19:59
  Yeah, they make it out.
• 20:00
  They drive away.
• 20:02
  They go show up at the Kennish house.
• 20:05
  KARA: They do.
• 20:06
  DANI: Bay brings Zarra to the Kennish house.
• 20:07
  She says, "Hey, guys." John is like, "Get the fuck inside so I can yell at you.
• 20:12
  Why is this girl here?"
• 20:13
  KARA: Yeah, and-
• 20:14
  DANI: And Zarra's like, "Parents love me." Her and Toby go
• 20:17
  hang out in the art studio.
• 20:18
  KARA: Mm-hmm.
• 20:19
  DANI: While John and Bay have it out, and Kathryn is also there,
• 20:23
  not really contributing much.
• 20:24
  KARA: Yeah, just being like, "Hi, honey, glad you're home." And
• 20:27
  John is like, "What the fuck?"
• 20:28
  DANI: Yeah.
• 20:29
  I really like Toby and Zarra's dynamic.
• 20:31
  I like Zarra being like, "You don't have any beef with me." And Toby's like, "Well,
• 20:36
  I'm protective of my little sister." He's like, "I have nothing against you, but it
• 20:39
  seems like she's in some bad situations, and you're also in those situations."
• 20:43
  KARA: Also, we almost got killed.
• 20:44
  DANI: Yeah.
• 20:45
  Also, he said- I think he, he's like, "I'm suspicious of anybody
• 20:49
  who is hanging out in a trailer park with a gang of guys trying to kill
• 20:53
  them. I think that's weird." Fair.
• 20:55
  KARA: Fair enough.
• 20:56
  DANI: And Toby says, "She's my little sister.
• 20:58
  I don't want anything bad to happen to her." And Zarra says, "Well,
• 21:00
  obviously I don't want anything bad to happen to her either."
• 21:03
  And Toby doesn't say anything, but you can see him clocking, like, Zarra just
• 21:07
  is someone who makes really bad choices.
• 21:09
  KARA: Yes.
• 21:10
  DANI: And is going to put herself in unsafe situations and bring Bay with her.
• 21:15
  KARA: Yes.
• 21:15
  Correct.
• 21:16
  DANI: So but I really like their dynamic.
• 21:19
  I like when Toby is a big brother.
• 21:21
  KARA: It's sweet.
• 21:21
  DANI: And protective.
• 21:22
  It is sweet in the rare moments that he steps up like that.
• 21:26
  KARA: I think what I needed Bay to do was to explain to John and
• 21:29
  Kathryn that Zarra is about to get murdered if she doesn't stay here.
• 21:34
  DANI: Yeah, I think they need the full context.
• 21:36
  But Bay doesn't wanna give that because Bay is also in, in her big
• 21:40
  I'm gonna keep doing street art, and it's not dangerous, and it's not bad.
• 21:44
  And it's like the way you're doing it- … it actually is really bad.
• 21:47
  I'm sure there are ways to do it that aren't dangerous or bad, and even
• 21:51
  ways to do it that aren't illegal But that's like part of it for her.
• 21:55
  So it's gonna be a big thing this whole episode, and I just can't.
• 21:59
  I had to like mentally swap it out.
• 22:01
  KARA: I can't empathize.
• 22:01
  DANI: I- right now I'm kind of pretending that she's gay.
• 22:04
  KARA: Sure.
• 22:04
  DANI: Genuinely, and like that's the drama.
• 22:06
  Because I just cannot empathize with a fresh 17-year-old being like, "I'm
• 22:12
  gonna emancipate myself 'cause my parents won't let me do illegal street
• 22:15
  art that's getting my friends beat up and making me rob my parents."
• 22:19
  KARA: I don't know.
• 22:20
  DANI: So I'm just like it's just that they really hate Zarra 'cause
• 22:22
  they think that Bay is gay, to me.
• 22:24
  KARA: And also 'cause she's involved in crime.
• 22:25
  DANI: No, but it's just to me, in my head.
• 22:27
  KARA: To you.
• 22:27
  Sure.
• 22:27
  DANI: That's what I'm making it so that I can side with her at least a little.
• 22:30
  KARA: Okay, fair.
• 22:31
  But Bay's like, "Okay, I'm home.
• 22:33
  Whatever.
• 22:34
  Can Zarra stay with us?" And John and Kathryn are like, "No."
• 22:36
  DANI: Yeah.
• 22:37
  But then, and then Regina walks in, and Bay's like, "Great, can Zarra stay with
• 22:41
  you?" And John's like, "No, that's my house too, and she cannot stay there."
• 22:45
  And Kathryn's like, Kathryn gets pissed.
• 22:48
  KARA: Yeah.
• 22:48
  DANI: And Regina-
• 22:49
  KARA: I think Regina rightfully is like, "I don't know what is going on."
• 22:52
  DANI: Yeah.
• 22:52
  Regina takes the path of least resistance, but Bay follows her outside as she leaves,
• 22:57
  and she's like, "My parents are always fighting to be parents to Daphne, and you
• 23:02
  don't even wanna parent me a little bit?"
• 23:04
  KARA: Tea.
• 23:04
  DANI: Which is true.
• 23:05
  But I think if Regina was parenting, she would also be like, "No, you
• 23:08
  can't fucking hang out with Zarra."
• 23:10
  KARA: Yes, I also think she'd say that.
• 23:12
  DANI: So while this is all going down, back at Maize-
• 23:16
  KARA: Oh, wait.
• 23:16
  I also just wanted to say since Zarra can't stay with them,
• 23:19
  she is gonna stay with 8 Ball.
• 23:21
  DANI: Yeah.
• 23:21
  Bay goes back in and is like, "You can't stay here," and Zarra's like, "I
• 23:25
  figured from all the yelling and drama, so I'm gonna stay with another friend.
• 23:28
  It's fine."
• 23:29
  KARA: Great.
• 23:30
  DANI: And then back at Maize.
• 23:31
  KARA: Back at Maize.
• 23:32
  DANI: Daphne and Chef Jeff are having a conversation privately in the freezer.
• 23:37
  I feel that the rumors would be less intense if they stopped having
• 23:40
  private conversations in the freezer.
• 23:42
  KARA: They're just talking in the freezer all day.
• 23:44
  DANI: I would be so pissed if this was my job environment.
• 23:47
  This was happening at my high-stress kitchen job.
• 23:50
  KARA: Chef Jeff is, "I feel like I'm in trouble. Did Melody report us?" My friend
• 23:54
  Arielle, shout-out to Arielle, pointed out to me that Melody is a mandated reporter,
• 24:00
  so legally she does have to report Daphne, and she should have in the last episode.
• 24:04
  DANI: Yeah.
• 24:04
  No one in this show is really making the best decisions around this, though, so
• 24:09
  I don't know if I believe she did that.
• 24:11
  KARA: Yeah.
• 24:12
  But anyways, she should have.
• 24:13
  DANI: She should have.
• 24:14
  Good point.
• 24:14
  KARA: Yeah.
• 24:15
  DANI: Um-
• 24:15
  KARA: But he's just-
• 24:16
  DANI: He's freaking out.
• 24:17
  KARA: Pissy.
• 24:18
  DANI: He's being pissy.
• 24:19
  He's blaming her.
• 24:20
  Who's surprised?
• 24:21
  Who's surprised that this is the manchild's reaction?
• 24:23
  He's like, "I can't believe you said something clearly.
• 24:27
  Like, you don't understand.
• 24:29
  This is my life.
• 24:30
  This is my career.
• 24:31
  I bet they were really nice to you in your interrogation, but to me they
• 24:34
  were like, 'You won't even be flipping burgers at White Castle after this.'"
• 24:38
  KARA: And Daphne's trying to talk him down, but she's clearly scared.
• 24:42
  DANI: Yeah, she's scared, and she's like-
• 24:44
  KARA: She looks really small, too.
• 24:46
  DANI: Her fucking side ponytail.
• 24:48
  KARA: I know.
• 24:48
  DANI: God.
• 24:49
  And then back at the house.
• 24:51
  KARA: Angelo comes back.
• 24:52
  DANI: Angelo's back, yeah.
• 24:53
  KARA: Angelo's back.
• 24:53
  He comes back from a run.
• 24:55
  He sees Regina and Adrianna getting in the car.
• 24:58
  Apparently Regina has not been working at Geraldo's.
• 25:01
  DANI: Yes.
• 25:01
  That was confirmed for us.
• 25:03
  KARA: That was confirmed.
• 25:04
  Because of her tendonitis, she has not been cutting hair.
• 25:07
  So she says, "I'm gonna go out and run an errand." And that errand is, I'm going
• 25:11
  to an employment agency to look for a job that doesn't involve cutting hair.
• 25:15
  And Angelo's like, "Don't worry, I'll support you with my unstable carpentry
• 25:20
  job." And Adrianna's like, "Yeah, right."
• 25:22
  DANI: Well, isn't the implication, like, I'm about to win a bunch
• 25:25
  of money from this lawsuit?
• 25:26
  KARA: Pretty much.
• 25:27
  DANI: Yeah.
• 25:28
  Because I got this- Yeah, Adrianna continues to be Angelo's number-one
• 25:31
  hater, and I do love her commitment.
• 25:32
  KARA: I do love that.
• 25:33
  DANI: She does not let him slip at all.
• 25:36
  KARA: No.
• 25:37
  DANI: Okay.
• 25:37
  Is this when… I think I stopped taking notes after this.
• 25:41
  Okay, thank you.
• 25:42
  KARA: Emmett is in the guest house.
• 25:43
  I think Daphne has texted him.
• 25:45
  Um, she's panicking.
• 25:46
  DANI: Yeah, Emmett's, like, the only one that fully knows the Chef Jeff
• 25:50
  dating situation, like, all the context.
• 25:53
  Which I do like that they're clearly back to being besties.
• 25:56
  KARA: Yeah, me too.
• 25:56
  DANI: That Daphne's sharing that with him.
• 25:57
  KARA: Yeah.
• 25:58
  Emmett plays quite a big role in this episode.
• 26:00
  DANI: He does, and he looks very cute.
• 26:02
  KARA: He does look very cute.
• 26:02
  DANI: They are so good at making him look cute when he's not Bay's boyfriend.
• 26:06
  KARA: Yeah.
• 26:06
  DANI: It pisses me off.
• 26:08
  He's looking so handsome.
• 26:09
  KARA: I know.
• 26:10
  Emmett goes to see Daphne, and he's like, "You look panicked
• 26:13
  about this Chef Jeff thing.
• 26:14
  What's up?" And she's like, "Well, Chef Jeff hasn't been texting me.
• 26:18
  I, he's mad at me.
• 26:19
  I'm so scared.
• 26:20
  And the owner keeps saying he's in a position of power
• 26:24
  and that he's in the wrong.
• 26:25
  But, um, he didn't do anything wrong.
• 26:27
  I pushed him to do it."
• 26:28
  DANI: He says something like, "Well, it, you didn't force him to date
• 26:33
  you." And she said, "But I pushed it."
• 26:35
  KARA: You were s- you were 16, honey.
• 26:38
  DANI: It's like, it makes me so upset.
• 26:40
  KARA: It's so sad.
• 26:41
  It's just sad.
• 26:42
  DANI: Emmett's, like, trying his best to be like, "It's fine.
• 26:46
  Fuck this guy.
• 26:47
  Maybe it's for the best that he gets fired." And D- and he says,
• 26:50
  "Because then if you didn't work together, it wouldn't be as big of a
• 26:54
  problem." Or I think he says, "There wouldn't be a problem at all." No
• 26:58
  one's fucking talking about the age.
• 27:00
  I don't understand why it's not a bigger factor.
• 27:03
  If he's old enough to fuck your mom, Emmett, he's too old to fuck Daphne.
• 27:07
  Come on.
• 27:08
  KARA: It's so upsetting.
• 27:09
  DANI: But she's like, "Oh my God, you're right. If we don't work
• 27:12
  together, then it's no big deal."
• 27:14
  KARA: Yeah, huge light bulb.
• 27:15
  DANI: "I gotta go." Huge light bulb.
• 27:17
  She leaves.
• 27:18
  We don't see it, but she fucking quits her job.
• 27:20
  She goes and she quits her job.
• 27:22
  KARA: Ugh.
• 27:22
  DANI: Um.
• 27:23
  KARA: Yeah.
• 27:23
  Emmett walks outside the guest house, and he sees Bay packing her car.
• 27:29
  DANI: Yeah.
• 27:29
  KARA: With paint materials He's like, "Whoa, nice car.
• 27:33
  You painted that?
• 27:33
  Okay, cool." Sees her filling the car with spray paint and he
• 27:36
  goes, "Are you going somewhere?
• 27:38
  Also, Daphne returned the camera that you borrowed a couple weeks ago.
• 27:42
  It looks like you're doing some really dangerous stuff.
• 27:45
  I saw your friends, uh, whip out a knife and there was a fight.
• 27:48
  Like, what are you doing?"
• 27:50
  DANI: Love that Bay didn't fucking try to delete those photos.
• 27:53
  KARA: That's really funny to me.
• 27:55
  DANI: Definitely wipe the camera before you give it back, guys.
• 27:58
  At least delete, download and delete the work that you took
• 28:02
  on someone else's camera.
• 28:03
  KARA: Really.
• 28:04
  DANI: Before you give it back.
• 28:04
  KARA: Please.
• 28:05
  But Emmett goes, "Yeah, what you're doing seems dangerous and I'm worried."
• 28:08
  Bay goes, "Well, it's not your job to worry about me," and she drives off.
• 28:11
  DANI: She's pushing everyone away.
• 28:13
  Also, she did not put her seatbelt on before she backed out.
• 28:16
  KARA: It doesn't look like the car has seat belts.
• 28:18
  DANI: It definitely does.
• 28:19
  KARA: It should.
• 28:20
  DANI: There's no way that they're showing, ABC Family is showing a car without seat
• 28:25
  belts, but Bay does not use hers, I guess.
• 28:28
  KARA: I know Zarra didn't either later, but that's, uh.
• 28:31
  DANI: Maybe they're lap belts.
• 28:32
  Maybe the car's old enough that it's just a lap belt.
• 28:35
  I feel like you sh- But that feels not road safe.
• 28:36
  KARA: That's not safe.
• 28:37
  DANI: Yeah.
• 28:38
  Well.
• 28:38
  KARA: Wear your seatbelt, guys.
• 28:39
  DANI: Wear, wear your fucking seatbelt.
• 28:41
  KARA: Get your vaccine and wear your seatbelts.
• 28:42
  DANI: Speaking of things that are unsafe.
• 28:44
  KARA: Oh, God.
• 28:45
  DANI: Daphne's in the courthouse bathroom, gets a text from Chef Jeff
• 28:50
  being like, "You quit your job, stupid. You just made everything worse."
• 28:54
  KARA: Yeah.
• 28:54
  DANI: She starts crying.
• 28:55
  Regina walks in and Daphne's like, "No, I'm fine.
• 28:59
  Nothing's wrong." And Regina's like, "You're not telling me
• 29:01
  something." Duh, girl, come on.
• 29:04
  Daphne lets it slip so casually that they're hooking up, 'cause she says, "I
• 29:09
  quit my job at the restaurant." Or I- she says it in a way that leaves it open-ended
• 29:14
  on whether she quit or she was fired, and Regina's like, "Oh my God, what happened?"
• 29:18
  Like, "Let me help you." And Daphne's like, "No, no, I chose to do it.
• 29:23
  KARA: Mm-hmm.
• 29:24
  DANI: "Because now Jeff and I can be together." What?
• 29:27
  And Daphne just, like, assumes that Regina knew.
• 29:30
  KARA: Or, like, would be cool with it.
• 29:32
  DANI: Would be cool.
• 29:32
  She tells her so casually.
• 29:34
  KARA: Can you imagine being in that courthouse bathroom in the stall like-
• 29:37
  DANI: Trying to pee and being like, "Oh, no."
• 29:39
  KARA: No, I can't get out.
• 29:41
  I also wanna listen.
• 29:42
  DANI: Right.
• 29:42
  Nightmare.
• 29:44
  KARA: I know.
• 29:44
  But Regina is immediately appalled, and she's like, "Chef Jeff? That is an
• 29:49
  extremely inappropriate relationship." Again, not saying the word crime.
• 29:53
  DANI: No.
• 29:53
  It's so weird the way they're phrasing it.
• 29:56
  And then Daphne says, "I thought you would be supportive." And Regina goes,
• 29:59
  "Why the hell would you think that?"
• 30:01
  And Daphne says, "You're not exactly a role model for choosing great men."
• 30:05
  KARA: Ooh.
• 30:05
  DANI: Okay, so in that is an admission that you know that this is a bad choice.
• 30:10
  KARA: Correct.
• 30:11
  DANI: Like, she's saying, "I think my mom will be supportive 'cause my mom has
• 30:14
  also been stupid about men, so it's fine that I'm stupid about men." That's crazy.
• 30:19
  Crazy take, girl.
• 30:19
  KARA: Yeah.
• 30:20
  DANI: But Regina's response to this is to say, "You think that I would be supportive
• 30:26
  of you giving up everything you've earned for a man?" She says, "That must be
• 30:32
  Kathryn talking, 'cause that is not me."
• 30:34
  KARA: What the fuck did Kathryn do to you?
• 30:36
  DANI: Kathryn catching strays.
• 30:37
  What the fu- First of all, Kathryn hasn't given up anything.
• 30:41
  She married up.
• 30:42
  KARA: She, in fact, is.
• 30:44
  DANI: She married a hot baseball player.
• 30:45
  She's super rich.
• 30:47
  She has a bestselling book.
• 30:49
  KARA: And she's an author.
• 30:49
  Yeah, she's fine.
• 30:49
  DANI: She's doing actually great, Regina.
• 30:51
  Why would you throw her under the bus?
• 30:53
  And Daphne is very hurt by this sentence as well.
• 30:56
  KARA: I was like, what the fuck?
• 30:58
  That was.
• 30:58
  DANI: That was really rude.
• 30:59
  KARA: That was so mean.
• 31:00
  And also she's like, "You will be going back to this restaurant and begging
• 31:04
  for your job and dumping Chef Jeff."
• 31:06
  DANI: Daphne's not gonna do any of those things.
• 31:08
  KARA: No.
• 31:08
  DANI: But… And then Daphne exits the bathroom, immediately
• 31:11
  sees John and Kathryn.
• 31:12
  KARA: No.
• 31:13
  Adrianna interrupts.
• 31:15
  DANI: Oh, yeah.
• 31:15
  KARA: Goes into the bathroom and is like, "Hi, guys. Courtroom time."
• 31:19
  DANI: So Daphne leaves, goes and sees John and Kathryn immediately, no longer
• 31:24
  in tears, and is like, "Do you guys need anything? I love you so much."
• 31:28
  Turns around, is so nice to them.
• 31:30
  KARA: Well, John and Kathryn are stressed because Bay isn't there.
• 31:33
  DANI: John and Kathryn are stressed.
• 31:34
  Bay is missing still.
• 31:36
  KARA: Yeah.
• 31:37
  Because Kathryn's about to take the stand, remember.
• 31:39
  DANI: Yeah.
• 31:39
  KARA: She got called to testify by-
• 31:41
  DANI: So it's really fucked up that Bay has skipped out on-
• 31:45
  KARA: I know.
• 31:45
  DANI: This day.
• 31:46
  Kathryn is saying, "Today of all days, I can't believe she's
• 31:48
  not gonna be here for me."
• 31:50
  KARA: Yeah.
• 31:50
  Kathryn takes the stand.
• 31:52
  DANI: God.
• 31:52
  KARA: The defendant's lawyer's asking her about all the things
• 31:56
  she's done wrong, basically, like her lending money to Britzia.
• 31:58
  And he was like, "Was that hush money?" And she goes, "No, I literally just
• 32:01
  wanted to help her, 'cause she was going to testify and then she lost her job."
• 32:05
  DANI: Yeah.
• 32:05
  I know we're biased, but, like, Kathryn looks and sounds
• 32:09
  like an angel on that stand.
• 32:11
  KARA: Right.
• 32:11
  The lawyer whips out her book and says, "You said you feel blessed, that
• 32:16
  you were given more than, you were given more than you have ever wanted.
• 32:20
  And why are you suing for damages if everything's okay and you're great?"
• 32:25
  DANI: This is so fucked.
• 32:26
  KARA: Yeah.
• 32:26
  And Kathryn's like, "Obviously, I'm devastated. I missed 16
• 32:30
  years of my daughter's life."
• 32:31
  DANI: Yeah.
• 32:31
  She delivers this beautiful monologue.
• 32:33
  It did make me sob.
• 32:35
  KARA: Yeah.
• 32:35
  DANI: It was so nice Just about all of the things she missed, that
• 32:39
  she couldn't be there for Daphne all the time, she was hurting.
• 32:42
  KARA: Yeah, but then she was like, "I would never do a do-over though, because
• 32:45
  then would mean not knowing Bay."
• 32:47
  DANI: Yeah, because the lawyer's follow-up question is like, "So do you
• 32:50
  regret it? So you wish the switch never happened? So if you could go back,
• 32:53
  you would change it?" Fuck this guy.
• 32:55
  This guy is so evil.
• 32:56
  And she's like, "Obviously not. Like, I'm not gonna say that." Even though
• 33:00
  Bay wasn't there, so she could have said it and it wouldn't have hurt anyone.
• 33:03
  But she doesn't say it, and so then they leave being like, "Well, now we've said
• 33:09
  we, we refuse to condemn the fact that the switch happened." It shouldn't matter.
• 33:14
  KARA: D-
• 33:14
  DANI: yeah.
• 33:15
  KARA: It's still emot- I assume what they're suing the hospital
• 33:17
  for is emotional damages.
• 33:18
  DANI: Yeah.
• 33:19
  KARA: It's still emotional damages even if you, okay, you love both of them?
• 33:24
  DANI: Great.
• 33:24
  KARA: That's great.
• 33:25
  They're still switched.
• 33:26
  DANI: And, and also fuck the judge.
• 33:27
  I feel like the judge keeps being like, "Sustained." He's not listening
• 33:31
  to any of the objections even though they're valid, so hate him.
• 33:34
  They're outside and they're all commiserating 'cause they think maybe it
• 33:37
  went bad after she refuses to condemn her other daughter And then Emmett shows up.
• 33:46
  KARA: This was so wild, like the light is streaming through the
• 33:49
  courthouse window like he's an angel.
• 33:51
  DANI: Yeah, he shows up.
• 33:52
  John immediately… I forgot that John has beef with Emmett, but, like,
• 33:56
  John has serious beef with Emmett.
• 33:58
  KARA: Why does he have beef with Emmett?
• 33:59
  Just 'cause-
• 33:59
  DANI: 'Cause he's, like, a dad and he knows that he hurt his daughter.
• 34:01
  He doesn't really know the details, but he's like, "What,
• 34:03
  this guy again? Why is he here?"
• 34:05
  KARA: And then Emmett goes, "I know where Bay is.
• 34:07
  I saw her loading up the car and going s- somewhere." And John now
• 34:11
  decides, "We've been looking for Bay all day, but now I'm going to whip
• 34:16
  out the tracker app on my phone."
• 34:18
  DANI: Yeah, that would've been my first step.
• 34:20
  Sorry, I love to track people.
• 34:21
  KARA: Yeah.
• 34:22
  I have Find My Friends, don't worry.
• 34:23
  DANI: I have Find My Friends.
• 34:25
  KARA: Oh, she's in Oklahoma.
• 34:27
  Okay.
• 34:27
  And then Toby is like, "Well, I do remember Zarra saying her dad's in
• 34:31
  Mexico and that they wanted to go." And John is like, "All right, time
• 34:35
  to go and find them." And Emmett's like, "I'll go with you." Road trip.
• 34:39
  DANI: Random.
• 34:40
  KARA: Road trip.
• 34:40
  DANI: To such a random duo, but okay.
• 34:43
  Yeah.
• 34:43
  So the odd couple's going.
• 34:45
  KARA: Yeah.
• 34:45
  DANI: On a road trip.
• 34:46
  Bay and Zarra are in the car.
• 34:48
  They're on their way to Mexico.
• 34:49
  KARA: John and Emmett are following.
• 34:51
  All of a sudden, now she's in San Antonio?
• 34:54
  That is, like, six hours away.
• 34:55
  DANI: They're speeding.
• 34:56
  KARA: From the south of Oklahoma to San Antonio, Texas, which is
• 34:59
  only a few hours from the border.
• 35:01
  That's, like, six hours.
• 35:02
  DANI: They're speeding, I guess.
• 35:03
  They're not driving responsibly.
• 35:05
  And that's when Bay is, like, starts to get hit with nerves.
• 35:09
  They're a couple hours from the border.
• 35:11
  She's like-
• 35:12
  KARA: They're talking about what they're gonna do, the
• 35:14
  cities they're gonna see, and-
• 35:15
  DANI: Guacamole with every meal.
• 35:17
  KARA: Yeah, and so-
• 35:17
  DANI: And Zarra says, "Margaritas with every meal." And they're,
• 35:20
  they're hooting and hollering.
• 35:22
  KARA: And Zarra's like, "Well, I wanna go to this city and this city, and I
• 35:25
  wanna see Cuba." And Bay is like, "Oh.
• 35:28
  That's actually a really long time away from home."
• 35:31
  DANI: Yeah.
• 35:31
  She's realizing some things.
• 35:33
  And then Zarra's like, "Are you okay?" And Bay says, "I just didn't say
• 35:37
  goodbye to Daphne and I feel bad." Which was really sweet, I thought.
• 35:41
  KARA: First person she thought of.
• 35:42
  DANI: Yeah.
• 35:43
  Those are- they're sisters.
• 35:44
  KARA: I know.
• 35:45
  DANI: Um, so Emmett's driving.
• 35:48
  Well, John's driving.
• 35:50
  Emmett's riding, and they are actually communicating.
• 35:54
  John's reception is getting better.
• 35:56
  KARA: Yeah.
• 35:57
  DANI: Um, now in this episode.
• 35:59
  KARA: John's just like, "I don't know what to do with Bay. Hey, Emmett, you had a bad
• 36:03
  time last year with your parents getting divorced. Like, how did you deal with it?"
• 36:07
  DANI: Yeah, and Emmett makes John pull over.
• 36:09
  KARA: Yeah.
• 36:09
  DANI: So he can explain.
• 36:10
  KARA: Well, also so he can look and not drive.
• 36:13
  DANI: Yeah.
• 36:13
  But I was like, it was so funny 'cause they're like, "Oh, my God, she's
• 36:16
  in San Antonio, we gotta speed." And then Emmett's like, "Pull over.
• 36:19
  We need to talk." It's like, okay.
• 36:21
  KARA: All right.
• 36:22
  So they pull over and then Emmett signs, and the way- This is so funny.
• 36:26
  He's signing, and then John is so sincerely repeating back what he's saying.
• 36:31
  DANI: Yeah, just to confirm to the audience that he understands,
• 36:34
  'cause John's not the best signer.
• 36:36
  KARA: Yeah, 'cause Emmett signs like, "Last year my parents were
• 36:39
  in their world." And John goes, "Last year my parents were in
• 36:43
  their world, smashing things?"
• 36:45
  DANI: But it's incredibly effective in this moment, 'cause it's a very emotional
• 36:49
  monologue from Emmett, and it really helps John to understand a little bit
• 36:54
  more why Bay's acting the way she is.
• 36:56
  So Emmett's basically like, "I was fucking up and making a lot of noise
• 37:01
  to force my parents to hear me."
• 37:03
  KARA: And also ask how I was doing.
• 37:05
  DANI: Yeah, and to check on me, because they were in their own world.
• 37:08
  KARA: Yes.
• 37:08
  DANI: And John is realizing, okay, we've kind of also been in our own world
• 37:13
  and maybe Bay is crying for help here.
• 37:16
  KARA: Yes, and they're gonna continue crying for help, because they're at
• 37:18
  the rest stop now somewhere in Texas.
• 37:20
  DANI: Yeah, they went to a shitty restaurant because they exit and Bay says,
• 37:25
  "The pork rinds from the vending machine at the last rest stop would've been
• 37:30
  better than what we just ate." And to make matters worse, someone broke into the car.
• 37:34
  KARA: Yeah, they just got burglarized.
• 37:35
  DANI: Although, I just wanna point out, it's an open air vehicle.
• 37:39
  I always wonder about this with open air vehicles.
• 37:42
  They have packed all their stuff in the open air trunk.
• 37:45
  Well- Trunk bed, basically, of the car.
• 37:48
  KARA: Yes.
• 37:48
  DANI: So it's like, yeah, things are gonna get stolen.
• 37:51
  Bay leaves her passport and all of the money in the sleeping bag.
• 37:55
  KARA: Gone.
• 37:56
  DANI: Obviously gone.
• 37:57
  KARA: Gone, gone.
• 37:59
  DANI: This is stupid of them.
• 38:00
  And Zarra thinks so too.
• 38:01
  Zarra didn't realize that all of the valuables were still in the car.
• 38:05
  KARA: Yeah.
• 38:05
  DANI: But Bay, it just, like, emphasizes how much Bay doesn't
• 38:09
  know about the world, basically.
• 38:11
  KARA: No.
• 38:12
  And she's like, "Well, how much further is your dad from here?"
• 38:14
  And Zarra's like, "Well…"
• 38:17
  DANI: "I don't really know where he lives."
• 38:18
  KARA: "Like, we emailed once, but I'm just like waiting for him to call,
• 38:22
  and I'll get, I'll get him on the payphone." And Bay's like, "So you
• 38:26
  don't even know where we're going?" And Zarra's like, "No, no, no, no, no.
• 38:29
  I, I have an idea of where we're going."
• 38:31
  DANI: She has no idea where they're going.
• 38:33
  KARA: Also, we can smuggle across the border.
• 38:35
  It's fine.
• 38:36
  You're gonna smuggle across the border in this very colorful car?
• 38:39
  DANI: Okay, so back at Maize, things are going about as bad for Daphne.
• 38:43
  KARA: Chef Jeff confronts Daphne at the restaurant and goes, "Why the
• 38:47
  hell did you quit? It looks like we're guilty and like we lied."
• 38:51
  DANI: And she's like, "But it doesn't matter, 'cause now we can be together."
• 38:55
  KARA: And then he goes.
• 38:56
  DANI: And Jeff goes.
• 38:56
  KARA: "Oh, honey…"
• 38:57
  DANI: "Oh, honey."
• 38:59
  KARA: Oof.
• 38:59
  DANI: So brutal.
• 39:01
  KARA: Painful.
• 39:02
  DANI: Okay.
• 39:03
  Also, his reaction to that, he told her he, quote, "Loved
• 39:08
  so many things about her."
• 39:09
  KARA: Yes.
• 39:10
  DANI: One episode ago.
• 39:11
  KARA: It feels like he had a full 180 from last episode to this.
• 39:14
  DANI: Yeah, there's no scenes of them being, like, any lovey-dovey
• 39:18
  after they slept together.
• 39:19
  So it must be… I mean, from Chef Jeff's perspective, you sleep with a
• 39:23
  teenager, and then immediately the owner of the restaurant shows up to be like,
• 39:27
  "Are you sleeping with the teenager?" He's just, like, completely shut off.
• 39:31
  KARA: Yes.
• 39:31
  DANI: The consequences of his actions arrived immediately, and it made him flip.
• 39:35
  KARA: Barely.
• 39:36
  DANI: And then Daphne goes ahead and says, "I'm in love with you."
• 39:39
  KARA: And then he goes, "One day you're gonna find someone
• 39:42
  so much better than me."
• 39:43
  DANI: And she's-
• 39:44
  KARA: Sobbing.
• 39:45
  DANI: She's sobbing, and then she closes her eyes and goes, "If I
• 39:48
  close my eyes, I can imagine you're saying anything I wanna hear."
• 39:52
  KARA: That was so cringe.
• 39:53
  I'm sorry.
• 39:53
  DANI: It was so cringe, and also, like, did they want us to be like aw.
• 39:59
  I still don't really know what the showrunners wanted us to experience
• 40:03
  and feel about this relationship.
• 40:06
  'Cause so much of it is written as if they were hoping that we'd be rooting
• 40:10
  for Daphne to be with this man.
• 40:12
  KARA: Right.
• 40:13
  DANI: Anyway, oh, and then he says, he, he says, she says, "I'm in love
• 40:17
  with you." And he says, "You were like this gift I didn't expect." What?
• 40:24
  And then he's like, "Okay, bye." So she leaves.
• 40:27
  Um.
• 40:27
  KARA: She's weeping.
• 40:28
  DANI: Yeah.
• 40:29
  It's not great.
• 40:30
  And then- Back in San Antonio, I guess, is still where they are, 'cause they
• 40:35
  haven't made it across the border.
• 40:36
  KARA: Somewhere near the border, Bay and Zarra are sleeping in the car, hood down.
• 40:40
  This is so dangerous.
• 40:41
  DANI: I don't think there's a top.
• 40:43
  KARA: I guess not.
• 40:44
  DANI: There's not a top to the car.
• 40:45
  KARA: In Kansas City?
• 40:46
  DANI: Yeah, dude.
• 40:47
  It's not a reasonable car.
• 40:49
  KARA: Okay.
• 40:50
  DANI: So they're, yeah, sleeping in the open air in the car.
• 40:53
  Two figures approach from behind.
• 40:55
  KARA: And they're like, "Ah, ah, I have a weapon."
• 40:57
  DANI: And you think, "Uh-oh, this is Smak." Yeah.
• 40:58
  Zarra stands up.
• 40:59
  She says, "I have a weapon." And then thank God, you hear John's
• 41:02
  reassuring voice from the darkness say, "God, I hope that's not true."
• 41:05
  KARA: Thank goodness.
• 41:06
  He's like, "Found you. Bay, you and I, let's go talk."
• 41:10
  And he goes, "Hey, honey, what you doing?" I love this.
• 41:13
  DANI: I think this is a great approach.
• 41:14
  I think he's finally locked in, parenting-wise.
• 41:16
  KARA: This is awesome.
• 41:17
  He goes, "Honey, what's going on?" And she goes, "We're gonna go to
• 41:20
  Mexico." And he's like, "Okay."
• 41:23
  DANI: Oh, okay.
• 41:23
  KARA: And she goes, "Well, but I have no money… and no passport." And he goes-
• 41:28
  DANI: Oh.
• 41:28
  KARA: "Hmm, that's gonna be hard."
• 41:29
  DANI: Yeah.
• 41:30
  KARA: "Is that rational, honey?" And then he goes, "That could be a problem."
• 41:33
  DANI: Yeah.
• 41:34
  And she says, "I'm gonna keep doing street art.
• 41:37
  I can't stop doing it.
• 41:38
  It's a part of me.
• 41:39
  I don't know who I'd be without it." And he says, "That's how I feel about you."
• 41:43
  KARA: All right.
• 41:44
  DANI: I thought that was sweet.
• 41:46
  KARA: It's sweet.
• 41:47
  DANI: That got me.
• 41:47
  KARA: I think it's the street art part that-
• 41:49
  DANI: Oh, for sure.
• 41:49
  For sure.
• 41:50
  KARA: Yeah.
• 41:50
  But he's like-
• 41:51
  DANI: But again, mind you, I've switched it, so now it's
• 41:54
  Bay saying, "I'm, I'm gay."
• 41:56
  KARA: Right.
• 41:56
  And he's saying, "I love my daughter so much."
• 41:58
  DANI: And he's saying, "I love you, I love you, I love you. It doesn't matter."
• 42:00
  And that's beautiful.
• 42:02
  KARA: You're right.
• 42:03
  Back at the Kennish property, Regina is also worried about Bay.
• 42:07
  DANI: Yeah.
• 42:07
  John says, "Let's go home.
• 42:09
  Your mom is worried sick." And then he pauses and he says, "Both of your
• 42:13
  moms are worried sick." So I guess we're led to believe that Regina has
• 42:17
  learned about this off-screen, 'cause no one's really been filling her in.
• 42:20
  But we cut to Regina in the guest house.
• 42:22
  She's freaking out.
• 42:23
  KARA: Yes.
• 42:24
  She's talking to Angelo about it.
• 42:25
  DANI: She's talking to Angelo, and she's like, "God, it's first this and
• 42:28
  then the Daphne thing." And Angelo's like "What Daphne thing?" And Regina's
• 42:31
  like, "Well, Daphne's dating her boss."
• 42:34
  KARA: And then Angelo finally-
• 42:36
  DANI: Immediately, how old is he?
• 42:38
  KARA: Asked the right question.
• 42:38
  And Regina goes, "I don't know, 27, 28?"
• 42:41
  DANI: I'm 27.
• 42:42
  There's no way that full-grown man is 27 years old.
• 42:45
  KARA: No.
• 42:45
  And Angelo, again, first person to say this, goes, "What kind of
• 42:49
  grown man dates a 16-year-old?"
• 42:52
  DANI: Yeah, he gets up and leaves immediately.
• 42:54
  And God, Angelo looks sexy in this scene.
• 42:56
  KARA: He goes, "I just need to talk."
• 42:58
  DANI: I'm just gonna go talk.
• 42:59
  I'm just gonna go-
• 43:00
  KARA: I'm just gonna go talk.
• 43:00
  DANI: Finally fucking someone is saying something.
• 43:03
  KARA: Thank God.
• 43:04
  Regina runs straight to the Kennish kitchen to look for Kathryn.
• 43:08
  Kathryn's like, "Hey, good news.
• 43:10
  John and Emmett are bringing Bay home.
• 43:12
  They're on their way." And Regina's like, "So cool.
• 43:14
  I need your car, 'cause Angelo's about to go kill a man."
• 43:17
  DANI: And Kathryn is along for the ride.
• 43:20
  KARA: She's like, first of all, what is happening to our children?
• 43:22
  The theme of this whole episode.
• 43:24
  DANI: I know.
• 43:24
  KARA: Daphne at the Maize parking lot is sitting in the-
• 43:27
  DANI: Weeping.
• 43:28
  KARA: Alone.
• 43:29
  I get it.
• 43:30
  DANI: Angelo pulls up.
• 43:31
  I fully thought for a minute, and I think it would've been funny
• 43:34
  had the, it taken place like this.
• 43:36
  Angelo pulls in, like rips into the parking lot.
• 43:39
  KARA: Yeah.
• 43:39
  DANI: Daphne's in her car crying, window down.
• 43:42
  Obviously, she can't fucking hear Angelo's tires screeching in.
• 43:45
  I think it would've been hilarious to just keep on Daphne the whole time.
• 43:50
  KARA: As he's like killing-
• 43:51
  DANI: As he's like in the restaurant, we hear the commotion, and then he's exiting
• 43:55
  the restaurant and going like, "Daphne, are you okay?" 'Cause he, instead of going
• 43:59
  straight in, he sees Daphne in her car.
• 44:02
  He goes in.
• 44:02
  He puts his hand on her shoul- on her shoulder through the window, which would
• 44:06
  have really fucking spooked me personally.
• 44:08
  KARA: Fair.
• 44:08
  DANI: And he's like, "What's up?" And Daphne's like, "How
• 44:11
  did you even know about that?"
• 44:12
  KARA: He goes, "What happened to you? What'd he do to you?"
• 44:15
  DANI: Yeah.
• 44:16
  Daphne's response is, "How do you even know about that?"
• 44:18
  KARA: Yeah.
• 44:19
  DANI: So he flips around, goes straight into the kitchen.
• 44:23
  Daphne follows him inside.
• 44:24
  He enters the restaurant.
• 44:26
  He says, "Where is the kitchen? Where is the Chef Jeff?" Grabs
• 44:28
  two other men in the kitchen.
• 44:30
  Like, "Are you, are you the man?"
• 44:32
  Jeff comes out.
• 44:34
  He says, "What the hell is going on?" And Angelo says, well, and first he
• 44:38
  says, "I'm Daphne's father." Awesome.
• 44:41
  In this moment, awesome.
• 44:42
  And then he punches Jeff in the face.
• 44:45
  KARA: Whacks him.
• 44:45
  DANI: He falls to the floor.
• 44:46
  He goes, "Don't you ever touch my daughter again."
• 44:48
  KARA: This was so sexy.
• 44:49
  DANI: It was pretty sexy.
• 44:51
  It was also just, like, so annoying that he's, like, not a good dad.
• 44:55
  But, like, this is, like, a moment to invoke, "That is my daughter."
• 44:59
  KARA: Yeah.
• 44:59
  DANI: Which Daphne doesn't know that that's what he said
• 45:01
  'cause she was behind him.
• 45:03
  But it's nice for us as the viewer to see that Angelo's standing up for her.
• 45:07
  KARA: Yeah.
• 45:07
  DANI: Finally.
• 45:07
  KARA: And then Chef Jeff has a little hissy fit and goes, "Get
• 45:09
  this lunatic out of my kitchen."
• 45:11
  DANI: Yeah.
• 45:12
  Bye, Jeff.
• 45:13
  Hopefully forever.
• 45:14
  I don't think forever.
• 45:15
  I'm pretty sure he comes up later, guys.
• 45:16
  But I do think we get a long break from him, so.
• 45:19
  KARA: Yeah.
• 45:19
  Back in Texas, Bay and John go back to the car.
• 45:23
  Zarra has fled.
• 45:24
  DANI: Yeah.
• 45:24
  She ran off.
• 45:25
  She left a note.
• 45:26
  She said, "I took the rest of the money."
• 45:27
  KARA: I took the rest of the money.
• 45:29
  DANI: It was only, like, 150 bucks.
• 45:31
  KARA: "I got a bus ticket. Add to my tab." What a great friend.
• 45:35
  DANI: I'm just glad to be rid of her.
• 45:36
  KARA: Yeah.
• 45:37
  John goes, "Do you wanna go after her?" And Bay goes, "No.
• 45:39
  She'll be fine.
• 45:40
  She'll be good."
• 45:41
  DANI: Yeah, she gives herself a little satisfied smile, realizing,
• 45:45
  like, Zarra doesn't need me.
• 45:46
  KARA: Yeah.
• 45:47
  And she's also incredulous that Emmett is here.
• 45:50
  She keeps looking at him like-
• 45:52
  DANI: What the fuck?
• 45:53
  KARA: "How are you here? Why are you here?"
• 45:54
  DANI: And Emmett's like, "I'm gonna ride with you."
• 45:57
  And John looks between them and is like, "I can't believe this is becoming
• 46:00
  not about me anymore. Okay, whatever." And he goes and gets in his car.
• 46:04
  And Bay says, "I can't believe you found me."
• 46:07
  KARA: And he goes, "I will always come find you."
• 46:10
  DANI: It's like the famous Emmett quote when people talk about this show.
• 46:13
  They talk about Emmett saying that.
• 46:15
  And I wanna note that they're playing the same song that they played when
• 46:18
  he revealed the billboard to her.
• 46:20
  KARA: Wow.
• 46:21
  DANI: For her birthday.
• 46:22
  It's like, ♪ Here is a heart, here is a heart ♪ It's very 2012 twee.
• 46:27
  KARA: They also, there's a vibe between them.
• 46:29
  They almost lean in.
• 46:30
  DANI: They almost kiss.
• 46:32
  They're like… and then John flashes his lights at them.
• 46:35
  He's like, "Come on, this is too much for tonight."
• 46:38
  KARA: Yeah.
• 46:38
  DANI: And they go and they get in the car.
• 46:40
  So that's sort of where we leave Bay and Emmett.
• 46:44
  KARA: Pretty much.
• 46:45
  DANI: In the finale.
• 46:45
  He's not gonna be in the rest of the episode.
• 46:47
  But I think that's a really good place to leave their relationship.
• 46:50
  KARA: Yeah.
• 46:50
  DANI: That just, like- I don't know.
• 46:52
  That's … I think Emmett thought that his big graffiti grand
• 46:55
  gesture would work, and it didn't.
• 46:57
  But, like, this is a better grand gesture- To project like, I care about you.
• 47:02
  KARA: I drove, what, 10 hours.
• 47:03
  DANI: Yeah.
• 47:04
  With your dad, who doesn't really sign.
• 47:07
  KARA: Honestly, yeah.
• 47:08
  DANI: Yeah.
• 47:09
  I think it's a good, a good show of support.
• 47:12
  KARA: Daphne comes home to the Kennish house after Chef Jeff
• 47:14
  getting whacked in the face.
• 47:15
  DANI: Daphne comes home, and she's upset, and-
• 47:18
  KARA: She goes into Kathryn's arms.
• 47:19
  DANI: Yeah, she goes to Kathryn, and she just, like, has a full breakdown.
• 47:23
  And it's a bittersweet moment, 'cause Kathryn, she's really apologetic because
• 47:27
  she knows that Kathryn got her the job.
• 47:30
  KARA: Yeah.
• 47:30
  DANI: And she feels like she's messed everything up.
• 47:32
  Again, not your fault, sweetie.
• 47:34
  You were a victim.
• 47:35
  KARA: Yeah.
• 47:35
  DANI: Um, but … And Kathryn doesn't say that, but she just says, "It's
• 47:38
  okay." But it's really nice because it parallels earlier in the episode when
• 47:42
  she said, you know, "There were so many moments that Daphne was hurting
• 47:45
  as a child that I couldn't be there for her," and now she's getting her moment.
• 47:48
  So for her, she's almost smiling as she's holding Daphne.
• 47:51
  'Cause it's like all of a sudden she gets this big moment with her to sort of make
• 47:55
  up for the ones where she wasn't there.
• 47:57
  KARA: Yeah.
• 47:57
  DANI: Also, yeah, very interesting to note that Daphne
• 47:59
  goes to Kathryn and not Regina.
• 48:01
  KARA: Yes.
• 48:02
  'Cause, well, Regina was being a nightmare before in the fight.
• 48:05
  DANI: I know.
• 48:05
  I just don't feel like Regina is the person Daphne's ever
• 48:08
  cried into the arms of.
• 48:10
  In fact, we've never seen that.
• 48:11
  KARA: No, we haven't.
• 48:12
  DANI: We've seen her cry to Kathryn before, too.
• 48:14
  KARA: Yeah.
• 48:15
  DANI: But not now.
• 48:17
  KARA: Yeah, you're right.
• 48:18
  Now we're back in trial.
• 48:19
  The jury-
• 48:20
  DANI: It's the next day.
• 48:21
  And Bay's in the… Bay is there.
• 48:23
  KARA: Everyone is there.
• 48:24
  DANI: Everyone's there.
• 48:25
  The family's united.
• 48:26
  KARA: Yes.
• 48:27
  DANI: It's the day that you- we hear the verdict.
• 48:29
  KARA: Yes.
• 48:30
  The jury finds for both plaintiffs, John, Kathryn, and Angelo.
• 48:34
  DANI: Yes.
• 48:35
  KARA: And then I was like, why are they combined into one trial?
• 48:37
  But apparently that's a thing people do.
• 48:39
  DANI: Yeah, I think because they both had the same-
• 48:41
  KARA: They both sue the hospital.
• 48:42
  DANI: Complaint against the hospital.
• 48:43
  KARA: Yeah.
• 48:43
  DANI: So they get different… They're suing for different-
• 48:46
  KARA: Yeah.
• 48:46
  DANI: Award settlements, but it's the same case.
• 48:48
  KARA: So they say, "We find for John and Kathryn Kennish," and they award $1.
• 48:53
  DANI: Yeah.
• 48:53
  KARA: In compensatory damages.
• 48:55
  $1. All right.
• 48:57
  DANI: Because a lot of what we saw of the trial was the hospital being like, "These
• 49:00
  are extremely wealthy people. We shouldn't have to give them any money." And I, I
• 49:05
  don't disagree, but they should at least have to pay their law bills, right?
• 49:09
  KARA: I was gonna say the lawyer fees.
• 49:10
  DANI: Like their legal fees.
• 49:11
  They should at least have to reimburse that.
• 49:13
  I'm sure the Kennishes spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on that.
• 49:17
  KARA: $1 seems insulting.
• 49:19
  DANI: Also, I feel like Kathryn had just said like, "I'm donating
• 49:22
  all of my proceeds of my book to a children's hospital." Like, if
• 49:26
  they gave them that money, she could've, they could've donated it.
• 49:30
  KARA: Right.
• 49:31
  DANI: It would be good.
• 49:32
  Anyway, okay, whatever.
• 49:34
  They get $1.
• 49:35
  But.
• 49:35
  KARA: But.
• 49:36
  DANI: They award Angelo.
• 49:38
  KARA: Five million.
• 49:38
  DANI: $5 million, which also seems low.
• 49:42
  I guess maybe not for a hospital.
• 49:43
  I guess most of the time when I pay attention to like settlement
• 49:46
  amounts or just, like, money won in a case, it's like big, big companies.
• 49:50
  KARA: This is a… Yeah, this is a hospital, so.
• 49:52
  DANI: But that still seems kinda low.
• 49:54
  KARA: Yeah.
• 49:54
  DANI: Whatever.
• 49:55
  Anyway, for Angelo, that's a life-changing amount of money for sure.
• 49:57
  KARA: Angelo is grinning ear to ear.
• 49:59
  DANI: Yeah.
• 49:59
  KARA: Everyone is gagged.
• 50:01
  And John is like, "It's all right.
• 50:02
  The $1, it's fine.
• 50:04
  It was never about the money.
• 50:05
  The hospital's found culpable, and that's all I wanted," which is true.
• 50:08
  That's something he said in the very early season.
• 50:10
  DANI: Yeah.
• 50:10
  KARA: He was like, "I just want them to acknowledge what they did."
• 50:13
  DANI: Yeah, he said he just wants them to say sorry, so.
• 50:16
  KARA: Yeah.
• 50:16
  And then Toby turns to Regina after the decision's made, and he's
• 50:20
  like, "Well, congrats." And she goes, "What do you mean congrats?
• 50:23
  I, I'm not in the lawsuit." And he goes, "Well-"
• 50:26
  DANI: You're married.
• 50:27
  KARA: You're married to Angelo.
• 50:27
  And you didn't sign the prenup, I guess, so half that.
• 50:30
  DANI: Half that money's yours.
• 50:31
  KARA: And Regina's like, "Oh, I don't have to be in a hair salon again."
• 50:35
  DANI: I would hope so.
• 50:36
  I, I think knowing Regina, she's not gonna touch that money for quite some time.
• 50:41
  KARA: Yeah.
• 50:42
  And then the very last scene.
• 50:44
  DANI: Yeah.
• 50:45
  KARA: Is Bay and Daphne.
• 50:46
  DANI: Everyone's emptied out of the courtroom except for Bay and Daphne.
• 50:48
  They're sitting, and Bay is wearing, like, this cream-colored cardigan.
• 50:52
  It's very jarring to see her in such a light color.
• 50:55
  KARA: Okay.
• 50:56
  DANI: They're sitting and they're kind of, like, bonding over,
• 50:59
  they're both talking about Sal's.
• 51:01
  I don't know how they get on the subject of Sal's.
• 51:03
  KARA: Well, Daphne asks Bay, "Do you think Angelo's gonna stick around
• 51:06
  now that he's flush with cash?" And Bay's like, "I don't know, but I hope
• 51:09
  so." And then they start reminiscing about what they did the very last day
• 51:14
  before they found out about the switch.
• 51:16
  DANI: Mm-hmm.
• 51:17
  KARA: And Daphne's like, "I went to Sal's," a pizza place, "and I got a
• 51:22
  pizza with my mom." And Bay's like, "The one with the really good garlic knots?"
• 51:26
  And Daphne's like, "There's no way you went there." And they're like, "Oh my
• 51:29
  God, we frequented the same pizza place-
• 51:32
  DANI: Yeah.
• 51:32
  KARA: And we never knew.
• 51:33
  What if we were there at the same time and we just had no idea?"
• 51:36
  DANI: Yeah.
• 51:36
  Bay says, "My dad's photo is on the wall-
• 51:39
  KARA: Yeah.
• 51:39
  DANI: Of that pizza place." It'd be really crazy.
• 51:41
  KARA: Yeah.
• 51:42
  DANI: Um.
• 51:42
  KARA: That was a really sweet convo.
• 51:43
  DANI: Yeah.
• 51:44
  It's just like, it's nice to see- It's nice to end the season with Bay and Daphne
• 51:48
  in a really good place with each other.
• 51:50
  I think that's the relationship I care about most in the show.
• 51:53
  KARA: Me too.
• 51:53
  DANI: And so to see them be so solid is really great, and just that they're,
• 51:56
  like, bonding over their shared trauma.
• 51:59
  KARA: Basically.
• 52:00
  DANI: And then.
• 52:01
  KARA: A very, very pregnant woman walks into the courtroom,
• 52:04
  and she goes, "Hi, girls. Do you know where this man Angelo is?"
• 52:09
  And Bay and Daphne look at each other and look at this woman, and then
• 52:13
  they point in his general direction.
• 52:15
  And then it ends in a free-frame, freeze-frame, and then a fade away.
• 52:19
  DANI: Yeah.
• 52:20
  It freezes on the image of them pointing for, like, a long time.
• 52:25
  KARA: So odd.
• 52:26
  DANI: It was a very odd last image to end the season on, but I do think
• 52:32
  very, um, fitting for a show that often makes very strange choices.
• 52:38
  KARA: Yeah.
• 52:39
  DANI: It seemed like they just didn't know how to end the episode, kind of.
• 52:42
  KARA: Yeah.
• 52:43
  I, I do wish it just ended with them talking about Sal's and being like, "Isn't
• 52:46
  that so funny that we probably crossed paths so many times and we didn't know?"
• 52:50
  DANI: Yeah, but they gotta set us up with a cliffhanger for-
• 52:52
  KARA: I know.
• 52:52
  DANI: Season two, man.
• 52:54
  KARA: I know.
• 52:54
  DANI: And it'll be a good one.
• 52:56
  Pregnant lady looking for Angelo.
• 52:59
  Exciting stuff.
• 53:00
  KARA: I think I had some issues, one, with the Chef Jeff thing for sure,
• 53:04
  but then also Bay running to New Mexico and that friendship was odd.
• 53:07
  I was just like, I think I find that both of those storylines are
• 53:11
  not really character-enlightening.
• 53:13
  It doesn't really help either of them really grow as people.
• 53:16
  Like, Daphne is kind of just back where she started.
• 53:19
  She- there's, like, no honest or emotional consequence for Daphne.
• 53:22
  She doesn't realize, like, one, I was groomed, or.
• 53:25
  DANI: Well, not yet.
• 53:26
  We might see that in season two.
• 53:28
  I don't really remember.
• 53:29
  KARA: But- It's just, like, swept under the rug, and then the relationship
• 53:33
  falls apart only due to outside forces.
• 53:35
  DANI: Mm-hmm.
• 53:36
  I think that for Daphne, up until this point in the season,
• 53:42
  other than the hearing aid thing.
• 53:44
  KARA: Mm-hmm.
• 53:45
  DANI: Where she tries to scam the Kennishes.
• 53:47
  KARA: Yeah.
• 53:47
  DANI: Out of five grand, I think this is, like, the start of her
• 53:52
  stepping out of that, like, perfect box that she's been in for so long.
• 53:57
  KARA: Yes.
• 53:58
  DANI: Like, I think she's acting out just as much as Bay is.
• 54:02
  KARA: They're both searching for some sort of connection in a very weird
• 54:04
  and confusing time in their life.
• 54:06
  DANI: Yes, exactly.
• 54:07
  Um, and so kind of I think the, the beauty in seeing them together at the
• 54:11
  end of the episode is the hope that they'll both realize, much like Bay
• 54:15
  driving away with Zarra saying, "I didn't say goodbye to Daphne," and realizing.
• 54:20
  The hope is that they're realizing that the, the connection they're looking for
• 54:24
  is right in front of them in each other.
• 54:26
  KARA: Yeah.
• 54:26
  DANI: But then I think second to that is also that Daphne's had a
• 54:30
  lot of character growth this season.
• 54:33
  It's just growth in the wrong direction.
• 54:36
  KARA: Sure.
• 54:36
  DANI: Like, not all growth is positive, right?
• 54:38
  KARA: Yeah, I guess.
• 54:39
  DANI: Like, I think she's had a lot of negative character traits at least
• 54:43
  come to light through this situation.
• 54:46
  And so I think that obviously she is a victim in the Jeff situation, but she
• 54:51
  is also an active participant, and, like, know, has said out loud, has
• 54:57
  confirmed, like, "I know this is stupid, and I know this isn't a good decision."
• 55:01
  KARA: Mm-hmm.
• 55:01
  DANI: And then she draws the comparison between her and Regina,
• 55:04
  saying like, "I thought Regina would understand because my mom makes
• 55:07
  decisions like this all the time."
• 55:09
  KARA: My mom also has shitty taste, yeah.
• 55:10
  DANI: So I think there's a layer too there of, like, acknowledging how much Regina
• 55:16
  and Daphne are alike in their thinking.
• 55:18
  KARA: Mm-hmm.
• 55:19
  DANI: And that Daphne is Regina's daughter in that way.
• 55:21
  KARA: For sure.
• 55:22
  DANI: And then I think that the Bay stuff is- She's really struggled with
• 55:27
  feeling like she's in this privileged family, and she doesn't belong there.
• 55:31
  KARA: Really struggling with identity and race.
• 55:32
  DANI: And really identified with Zarra.
• 55:35
  KARA: Yes.
• 55:36
  DANI: For a long time, and is now realizing that that's not true to her.
• 55:42
  KARA: It's not true to herself, no.
• 55:44
  DANI: Yeah.
• 55:45
  KARA: I don't think I really remember what happens later on,
• 55:48
  but I'm excited to see the personal development of the girls specifically.
• 55:51
  But then I was also thinking, I really like John's trajectory
• 55:55
  throughout the whole season.
• 55:56
  DANI: Me too.
• 55:57
  KARA: Now I think he's especially grown.
• 55:58
  He has more of an equal partnership with Kathryn.
• 56:01
  DANI: Mm-hmm.
• 56:01
  KARA: 'Cause at first she was, like, the stay-at-home mom, and he was
• 56:04
  the breadwinner, and now she's an award-winning bookseller, and he's,
• 56:09
  like, and he makes himself ziti at home.
• 56:11
  And he has a beautiful bond with Travis now.
• 56:14
  He's learned some sign, and, uh.
• 56:16
  DANI: He- Yeah, he's more connected to the deaf community.
• 56:19
  KARA: And he's relating with Bay more, like he did.
• 56:21
  DANI: Yeah, I feel like he's really stepped up as a dad.
• 56:24
  KARA: Yeah.
• 56:24
  DANI: In a lot of ways.
• 56:25
  He made headways with Toby.
• 56:28
  KARA: Mm-hmm.
• 56:28
  Has Regina grown?
• 56:30
  DANI: No.
• 56:30
  KARA: No.
• 56:31
  So interesting.
• 56:32
  DANI: She's really just backsliding, like the Angelo stuff, the-
• 56:36
  KARA: Yeah.
• 56:36
  DANI: It's all sort of bad for Regina.
• 56:38
  KARA: Yeah.
• 56:38
  DANI: We do not leave her in a good place.
• 56:40
  I guess we leave her in a place where she has half of $5 million.
• 56:43
  KARA: Right.
• 56:45
  DANI: If she wants it.
• 56:46
  KARA: She does go from rags to riches, really.
• 56:48
  DANI: Yeah, but she does also still have a green card marriage that
• 56:51
  might get her in trouble with a man who's sort of a wild card, who
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  definitely just got that girl pregnant.
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  KARA: Yeah.
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  DANI: And assaulted a man.
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  Valid, but could… I mean, he has a criminal record.
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  KARA: Right.
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  Yeah, I don't remember what happens with that.
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  DANI: No.
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  No, season two's such a mystery to me, so I can't wait to find out, guys.
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  KARA: Yeah, I remember season one so well, but not season two, and
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  so on, so this is gonna be very exciting to watch and record.
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  And we are going to take a nice, long summer break, 'cause I am traveling.
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  DANI: Yeah, guys.
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  But we'll be back in the fall.
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  KARA: Yeah, we'll be back in the fall.
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  We'll be available through email and Instagram if you wanna chat with us.
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  DANI: Yeah, we'll still be posting on Instagram, so you can find us there.
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  KARA: Mm-hmm.
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  DANI: And TikTok occasionally?
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  KARA: TikTok, I'm on there sometimes.
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  DANI: All right, guys.
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  KARA: Thank you so much for listening.
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  DANI: Thanks for listening.
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  KARA: And have a great rest of your summer, but if you're in
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  the Southern Hemisphere, have a great rest of your winter.
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  DANI: Aw, so inclusive of you.
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  I love that.
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  KARA: I am.
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  All right, bye.
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  DANI: Bye.