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Time Management & Mental Health Strategies w/ Alan Lazaros | Growth Mindset & Leadership Insights · King Dems Podcast | Growth Mindset, Leadership, AI and Business Insights

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  So I think the reason people squander time is they don't
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  understand the downside. If I told you, you and me, man,
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  in 50 years, I'm going to be 86. You're going to be How old are
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  you? 33. 33, All right, so you're
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  going to be 83 and I'm going to be 86.
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  All right, I'm going to take weekends off.
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  In this metaphor, I'm not really, but in this metaphor,
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  and we're both going to get 0.1% better per day, OK.
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  And we're going to start investing.
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  We're going to earn 0.1% more money per day for the next 50
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  years. I'm gonna take weekends off.
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  You're gonna work the weekends, you're gonna work every week.
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  You're gonna have $84,000,000 and I'm gonna have five
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  $439,000. So you're gonna have 191 times
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  the wealth that I have, and that works for health, wealth and
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  love. That works for all goals.
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  heart trick fighting out of Boston, United States of
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  America. Mac, welcome, I learned the next
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  level. University hero.
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  Lazarus Ali, your brother. I'm good man.
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  Thank you for having me. I appreciate the the intense
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  introduction and you and I talked about gratitude.
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  I'm grateful to be here man, I'm honoured.
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  Gratitude is good attitude. I only see that.
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  And of course, when a person shares their time with you, they
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  share their life with you because the SI unit for
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  measuring life is time. So welcome back to the Kingdom's
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  forecast, probably ranked in the global top 2.5% on listen notes.
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  So today's conversation is about two things every leader,
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  entrepreneur and dream tracer struggles with time management
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  and mental health. These two are connected more
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  than most people think. And I couldn't think of a better
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  person to unpack this with me than my brother from another
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  mother from Massachusetts, the Co founder of next level
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  University, global top 100 podcaster and coach Alan
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  Lazarus. Alan, welcome back to the show
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  TIME. Management, baby.
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  Time management, Yeah. This time is life.
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  It is. I'll open with this.
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  If you are fortunate enough to live to 100 years, that is 100
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  years times 365 days. That's 36,500 days.
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  When I give speeches at high schools, colleges, I gave a
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  training to a group of 300 students last week.
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  I said if you had $36,500 in a bank account and you could never
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  make another dollar, how carefully would you invest that
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  money? So as of right now, I have 16
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  minutes and 57 seconds on this podcast.
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  I am always tracking my time on my Apple Watch and or my iPhone.
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  Time is life. You only have three resources in
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  life. You have time, you have effort,
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  and you have money. And the most important on there
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  is time. Where you put your time and
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  effort will determine how much money you earn and how much
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  money you earn and where you invest it will determine how
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  much money you earn. So it's time, effort and money.
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  That's the only three resources any of us have, and we all have
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  168 hours in a week. If you sleep 8 hours a day,
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  that's 56 hours per week that you sleep. 8 * 7 is 56, and if
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  you do 168 -, 56, you get 112 waking hours per week.
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  So assuming you sleep well and consistently and you average 8
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  hours of sleep, you get 112 hours per week. 52 weeks a year,
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  520 weeks per decade. The average life expectancy in
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  the US and I live in the US, so I'll use those stats is 80 for
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  women, 79 for men and it's increasing fortunately.
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  But all you have is time and you can spend your time building or
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  enjoying. And what I try to teach people
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  is what if you enjoyed building? So building is you are taking
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  the present moment to add value to others and build yourself,
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  build the family, build the business, build something of
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  value. So you're building or you're
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  enjoying, but syntax matters. Some people build to enjoy,
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  other people enjoy to build. Syntax matters.
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  And so building is I'm going to invest the now for a bread or
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  tomorrow. That's me.
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  I tend to be on the builder side.
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  And so it's a percentage. I try to do probably 90%
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  building, 10% enjoying, but I also enjoy building, so there's
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  a way to integrate them. So is it building first for you
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  or is it enjoying first for you? Because if you want to enjoy 1st
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  and you don't like to build, you're probably not going to
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  achieve very large goals. And I used to be bashful about
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  this. I used to not talk about this.
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  But if you have big goals and dreams, you better learn how to
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  build and you better start building quick.
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  The people who achieve their goals and dreams are very future
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  oriented and they they usually invest the now for a brighter
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  tomorrow. They don't usually focus on
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  quality of life. And ironically, the people who
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  have the highest quality of life are usually the people that are
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  willing to build more in the present at the expense of
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  quality of life. And then ten, 20-30 years later
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  you see them. I have a mentor who is a multi
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  multi millionaire. He was the CEO and CEO of
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  several different billion dollar tech companies.
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  And now he flies to the Bahamas private.
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  He, you know, bought a house without even going inside of it.
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  He he has literally millions of dollars and he's an investor.
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  But the first 30 years of his career were grinding.
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  And if you saw his life now, you'd say, oh, that must be
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  nice. But what you don't realise is
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  that his quality of life, you know, he drove a Toyota back in
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  the day. So it's just really important to
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  understand that. And I think that unfortunately
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  social media makes it seem like you can enjoy now and build and
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  achieve huge goals without a tonne of effort, which is just
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  wildly untrue. Widely, widely untrue.
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  Quick 1. So I really appreciate you
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  talking about the syntax. And of course, you know I talk
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  about in communication, content and context are very, very
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  important, right? Making it sync.
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  Enjoy to build and beauty enjoy. Now I see why a lot of people
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  think of me as unconventional or as a weird person because when I
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  think about the percentages, I think it's a 5050 for me
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  personally. I enjoy to build and I also
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  beauty enjoy and like I found that equilibrium of both, both
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  because I enjoy build in. I think about building this
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  podcast, for example, as a while we're speaking right now, it's
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  ranked global top 2.5%. And I think about the fact that
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  I started November 18, 2023. You are a global top 100
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  podcaster and you know what it takes to build a podcast, right?
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  And this is less than two years and I'm already in the global
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  rankings. It it, it makes more sense to me
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  when I look at people who actually started way beyond me,
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  but before me rather. And when I see the rankings, I
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  see the kind of forecasts that are on the same pedestal as me.
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  All of them started before me. And.
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  When it wasn't making the money it's making now, like a lot of
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  people were sort of discouraging me, telling me or why are you
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  keeping up doing something that is not you then something,
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  right? But for me, I was enjoying the
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  process. I still enjoy the process and
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  now that is bringing returns. Like I enjoy the returns.
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  So for me it's, you know, like well balanced.
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  I enjoy the process and I also do the process to enjoy.
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  But you know, back to time, most people mismanage that gift of
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  time. Why?
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  Because you share that sentiment with me that the SI uniform
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  measurement life this time. But why would people waste their
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  time? Is it because they don't know
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  that time is life? I don't know.
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  There's a book by Lucius Seneca. It's one of the Roman Stoics
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  called On the Shortness of Life, and it's a pretty intense read,
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  but it basically talks about much we squander time.
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  And you even mentioned 5050 there.
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  So let's just do the numbers of that.
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  So assuming you sleep an average of 8 hours per night, you have
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  112 hours a week. If you do 50, you know, divide
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  that by two, 112 / 2 is 56. So that means you're working 56
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  hours a week, you're building 56 hours a week.
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  So most people think of full time as 40 hours.
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  I if you have 112 waking hours per week and you're only
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  building 40 of them, I think you're in some trouble and I'll
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  explain why. If you want to build your
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  physique, so fitness, how long does that take per day?
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  If you want to build your intimate relationship, how long
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  does that take per day? If you want to build a business,
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  how long does that take per day? And so why do people squander
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  time? The truth, I think
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  unfortunately, and I'm, I'm a computer engineer and if you
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  listen to the past episodes, you'll already know this, but
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  everything in my mind is numbers.
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  And if you take a dollar and you put it in a financial calculator
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  and you grow it by 0.1% per day for 50 years, that's 50 * 365.
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  You end up with $84,000,000. It's 83 something.
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  So I rounded up and if someone takes weekends off it's only 260
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  days a year. So 52 weeks a year times 5 is
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  200 and 62160 * 50. And if you do this, you can do
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  this in a financial calculator. If you do it in ChatGPT make
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  sure you correct it because ChatGPT is wonky with numbers.
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  But go to Google, look up a financial calculator, put $1.00
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  in it and grow it by 0.1 percent, 110th of 1% per day for
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  50 years. It's $84,000,000 if you take
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  weekends off brother. And you don't get better on the
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  weekends, you just coast. It's only 439,000.
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  So someone who works and builds everyday versus someone who
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  doesn't. It's not even close.
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  To answer your original question of why do people squander time,
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  I think that we just don't understand what's possible. 10
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  years ago, I got in a car accident.
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  I was 26 years old and I faced sort of mortality.
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  My dad died in a car when he was 28, and that was 10 years ago.
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  And I faced mortality and I was like, you know what?
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  I have wasted so much time and effort now, I didn't waste it
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  all right? I got good grades.
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  I got a computer engineering degree.
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  I got my master's in business. I was very successful in
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  corporate. But the amount of time and
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  effort that I squandered on persons, places, things and
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  ideas that I will never get back is insane.
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  And so I made a promise to myself, Alan, never again will
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  you waste time and effort. And what you realise is that
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  when you invest your time and effort every single day on
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  getting a little smarter, a little stronger, a little
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  better, a little better speaker, a little better communicator, a
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  little bit better of a business owner, a little bit you, it
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  compounds. So I think the reason people
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  squander time is they don't understand the downside.
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  If I told you, you and me, man, in 50 years, I'm going to be 86,
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  you're going to be how old are you?
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  33. 33, yeah. All right, so you're going to be
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  83 and I'm going to be 86. All right, I'm going to take
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  weekends off. In this metaphor, I'm not
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  really. But in this metaphor, and we're
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  both going to get 0.1% better per day, OK.
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  And we're going to start investing.
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  We're going to earn 0.1% more money per day for the next 50
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  years. I'm going to take weekends off.
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  You're going to work the weekends.
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  You're going to work every week. You're going to have $84,000,000
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  and I'm going to have five $439,000.
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  So you're going to have 191 times the wealth that I have.
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  And that works for health, wealth, and love.
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  That works for all goals. It's it's the math.
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  You can literally Google this. It's the math and but people are
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  like, well, I don't want to work every day.
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  Listen, you don't have to work all day every day. 0.1% better
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  is not that hard. Do you think you can get 0.1%
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  stronger today? Absolutely.
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  If you go to the gym, absolutely.
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  Absolutely, absolutely. And I'll just tell people I
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  weaponize consistency, consistency as a weapon.
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  Nice, and do you think you can get 0.1% smarter?
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  Absolutely. Do you think you can get 0.1%
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  better of a communicator? That simple, yeah.
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  And This is why I believe so deeply in coaching and books and
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  training programmes and investing in yourself.
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  The wealthiest people on earth are investors.
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  They invest today for a bigger, better, brighter tomorrow.
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  When Jeff Bezos went in 1994 to investors and he was going to
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  give away equity for $20,000, they said, what's the Internet?
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  And he said, well, the Internet is this place where you connect
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  with other people globally on, on what's called the World Wide
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  Web. And he's explaining it.
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  And now he owns 8.6% of Amazon.com, which is a company
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  that's worth $2.44 trillion. I researched this last week.
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  So he has a $250 billion net worth.
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  Now, that does not mean he has $250 billion in his bank
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  account, OK? It means he owns 8.6% of a $2.44
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  trillion company. So if the if the company were to
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  go out of business, he would have $0.00.
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  But the point is, Jeff Bezos in 1994, which was 31 years ago,
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  was just a regular guy, a regular guy with a really big
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  dream who's really intelligent, who saw a trend.
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  He saw that the Internet was growing at a ridiculous rate,
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  and he decided to create and sell books online.
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  And I think that that's what we all have the opportunity to do,
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  whether it's starting a podcast or building company.
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  I think it's the little small daily disciplines showing up
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  when you don't want to every single day and and.
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  Time. Management, time management.
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  Yep, time management is every unit of time is to just get a
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  little better, a little smarter, a little stronger, a little more
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  effective, a little more skilled.
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  And when you do that over time, it's unbelievable.
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  Last piece I started this habit called Facebook Memory of the
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  Day. So you're 33?
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  I'm 36. So you remember Facebook when it
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  was just college kids, right? Yeah, absolutely.
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  Yeah. OK.
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  All right, So I just pulled up a photo of me from 13 years ago.
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  I'll show it on YouTube. 13 years ago, this is me driving to
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  Los Angeles and I, I wanted to work in show business.
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  That was when I was 20 years old.
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  So 13 years ago, 23 I was 23 years old and 13 years ago I
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  everything is similar and different.
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  Let me explain. So 13 * 365, I've had 4745 days
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  since then to invest. So where did I put those 4745
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  days? Did I get a little stronger?
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  Did I get a little smarter? And back then, I wanted to work
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  in show business. I actually had an interview at
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  SpaceX, actually, which is an interesting thing because SpaceX
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  is headquartered in California. And I lived in LA for like 3 1/2
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  months. I came home for some family
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  stuff. My dreams are still there, but
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  they look very different. I've evolved, I've adapted, I've
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  changed. So the only wrong answer is to
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  not have goals. Goals force you to use each unit
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  of time. If I had no goals, brother, I
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  would have no urgency. If I have no urgency, I would
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  have no necessity. If I have no necessity, if you
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  have no goals, when you wake up in the morning, you don't even
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  know what to do. Imagine if Michael Phelps's
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  coach was like, yeah, man, just jump in the pool.
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  You swim around. It's called free wind optimism.
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  You know, when I was a strategic class, you know, to become a
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  chartered accountant, the guy who who was teaching us said if
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  you, if you feel to plant, you plan to feel, right.
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  We don't realise that failing to plan is a plan on its own
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  because it's actually a plan to fill.
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  So you really can't blame the guys who don't have a plan
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  because they actually have set that plan to fill.
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  Yeah. So that is also a goal on its
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  own. But you know, coming back to the
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  whole time management theme, right?
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  So let's link it with mental health.
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  You know, high achievers, they, they feel every hour of the day,
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  but stress, anxiety and of course, burnouts tend to creep
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  in. So you are a coach, you know,
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  you coach entrepreneurs globally.
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  So how does poor time management impact mental health?
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  The first thing to understand is it's a conscious choice, so I'll
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  share this with everybody. I was an achiever by nature and
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  when I wasn't focused on my goals, I would have anxiety.
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  And to me, in order to get out of anxiety, I would need to get
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  my button gear because there's something called opportunity
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  cost. If you sit around for the next
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  three weeks and don't accomplish anything, don't do anything, you
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  have no idea how much less your future just got.
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  It's called opportunity cost. It's like, it's like what I
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  talked about earlier about taking weekends off versus
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  working and building in the weekends doesn't mean you have
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  to work 12 hour days every weekend.
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  The point is, is you, you compound opportunity cost is
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  your future gets smaller if you don't invest today.
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  So I had a lot of anxiety associated with not.
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  Building so I think a lot of people do and they try to escape
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  it. So for me, my escape was
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  alcohol. So back in the day I would have
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  these dreams that are pulling me.
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  I would have these huge dreams that are just pulling me.
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  They're calling me they're saying Alan you can do this.
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  My highest self was like, Alan, get it together man, you can do
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  this let's go get off your ass. That's my highest self.
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  OK, some people have a less intense highest self.
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  Alter ego. You know, but instead of
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  listening to that voice, I would drink and it would turn off.
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  So if I took like four or five shots right now, my inner voice,
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  my calling, my highest self would turn off and it would turn
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  off for like a couple hours. But then the next day it would
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  turn back on and it would say, hey, now not only am I louder,
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  but now you're behind even more. That can be thrown in.
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  It's not good, man. So at the end of the day, I
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  think when it comes to mental health, you got to figure out
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  what your calling is. Do you have anxiety because
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  you're not going to the gym and you're not keeping the promises
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  to yourself and you know you're capable of more and you're not
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  following through? Because if so, then you need to
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  learn how to align with that calling.
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  Or are you overwhelmed on the other side where you're you,
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  you've bitten off more than you can chew and you're grinding
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  every day and you don't have any R&R and your, your struggle bus.
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  So I like 8020, I think 80% building, 20% intentional
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  recovery. Some people are overtraining and
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  they go to the gym too much and they're doing 3 hours a day and
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  they need to rest and recover. But most people are under
• 21:52
  training, right? So I want to pick your brain on
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  the on the recovery side, you know, and what a great week to
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  like segue into the fact that we now have a new brand partnership
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  with Better Help, right? And Better Help is the world's
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  leading online therapy brand. So what are your thoughts, you
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  know, on therapy, especially online therapy, and how it helps
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  with, you know, mental health recovery?
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  Unbelievable. So my beautiful girlfriend and
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  future wife has a company called Evolve Ventures and I also coach
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  her business partner Bianca. I've been coaching her for six
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  years. I also have a therapist named
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  Carol, so she's trauma certified.
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  My girlfriend, the other one, does CBT, cognitive behavioural
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  therapy. I am the biggest proponent of
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  therapy. I think coaching and therapy are
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  two sides of the same coin. Has that too.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah. So therapy is is more about
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  learning from the past and healing from the past and
• 22:56
  working on yourself. I think coaching is much more
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  externally driven, goals, dreams, system structure
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  oriented. Yeah, therapists also coach and
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  coach coaches also do therapy. But ultimately I'm for it.
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  I think it's really good and I think the world desperately
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  needs to work on their mental health.
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  I think the world physical, mental, emotional, spiritual.
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  Physical health is the most important, in my opinion.
• 23:20
  Mental health is next, emotional health is third and spiritual is
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  4th. Physical, mental, emotional,
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  spiritual. If you are physically, mentally,
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  emotionally and spiritually fit, you're going to be a powerful
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  human being. So I have a therapist.
• 23:32
  Her name's Carol. I've been doing therapy for
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  three years. It has been amazing and brutal
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  because I had a particularly challenging childhood.
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  But I'm all for it man, and thank you again for having me.
• 23:43
  I do get a jump because of time management.
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  Of amazing, amazing and brutal. You have actually been amazing
• 23:49
  on the podcast today. Brutal.
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  We've had to work within time crunch and of course, you know,
• 23:54
  to my audience, check out Alan's work at Next Level University.
• 23:58
  Remember, therapy is a tool, not a weakness.
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  Explore better help via betterhelp.com/kingthings.
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  Thank you very much, brother. Love and respect to you.
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  And of course, till you come again for episode 4 in our
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  series. God bless you.
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  And of course, guys, go conceive, believe and achieve.
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  Do take good care of yourselves. Bye.