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Sharri | 26 February · Sharri

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Speaker 1: Live on Sky News.
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Speaker 2: This is Shari.
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Speaker 3: Good Evening Tonight our exclusive report that intelligence agencies are
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Speaker 3: investigating Australians who've flown to Lebanon for a terror leader's funeral.
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Speaker 3: This as we expose more people who are openly supporting
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Speaker 3: Hesbela dirty politics. The Albanezy government behind in the polls
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Speaker 3: launches personal attacks on Peter Dutton. The Prime Minister is
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Speaker 3: also exposed for protecting China over the live fire drill
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Speaker 3: in the Tasman Sea. The Bivas family has hit out
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Speaker 3: at Prime Minister Albanezi for his callous response to the
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Speaker 3: grotesque coffin spectacle. My exclusive report coming up, and of
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Speaker 3: course we'll broadcast the Bibas family funeral live. The eulogies
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Speaker 3: will start at eight thirty tonight our time. Right in
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Speaker 3: the middle of our show, we'll cross to Israel as
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Speaker 3: father and husband Yadin speaks for the first time and
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Speaker 3: as we all farewell his beautiful boys. But first tonight
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Speaker 3: I can exclusively reveal that intelligence and security agencies are
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Speaker 3: investigating the Australians attending the funeral of terror leader Hassan Nasrallah.
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Speaker 3: We can also tonight expose more Australians who are at
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Speaker 3: the Hasbel Alder's funeral, including a photographer and a kid's
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Speaker 3: footy coach. Government sources told me today that the agencies
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Speaker 3: are examining the Australians who attended the funeral services commemorating
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Speaker 3: one of the world's worst terrorists. They include Abed Almajid Mortada, Miriam.
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Speaker 1: Ishak Zein and Hassan Jeba.
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Speaker 3: We also showed a group of individuals last night who
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Speaker 3: claim to be the AUSSI crew. In a moment, Taal
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Speaker 3: exposed more Australians who attended the funeral of the terror
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Speaker 3: leader responsible for murdering thousands of innocent.
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Speaker 1: People around the world.
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Speaker 3: Some of the individuals discussed last night were already known
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Speaker 3: to the intelligence agencies and there's now a question over
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Speaker 3: how the alban Easy government, Home Affairs, Bodiforce and the
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Speaker 3: agencies will handle this. Will they allow these individuals to
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Speaker 3: come back into the country or will Tony Burke investigate
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Speaker 3: using the powers to block their return and he has
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Speaker 3: those powers. AZEO Director General Mike Burgess told Shadow Home
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Speaker 3: Affairs Minister James Patterson last night in Senate estimates that
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Speaker 3: Australia can temporarily prevent someone returning to the country if
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Speaker 3: authorities believe they pose a threat.
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Speaker 4: There are Australians will have a right to return. That
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Speaker 4: there is temporary exclusion orders that can be applied in
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Speaker 4: some so circumstances that would control that return in a
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Speaker 4: manner which was enabled the issue to be managed effectively
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Speaker 4: by authorities, including ASIO.
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Speaker 3: Mike Burgess made it very clear he would be concerned
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Speaker 3: if he learned that Australians were traveling overseas to participate
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Speaker 3: in an event organized by a listed terror group, and
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Speaker 3: he said it could be unlawful.
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Speaker 4: As a security service, I'd be regardless of whether it's
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Speaker 4: listed or not, if they were going to an event,
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Speaker 4: whether a vile extremists or known terrorists, we would be interested.
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Speaker 4: As Australia's security service. The fact that an organization is
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Speaker 4: listed is sending a message to society that's a listed
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Speaker 4: terrorist organization and actually there are criminal penalties for engaging
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Speaker 4: with or being a member of such group.
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Speaker 3: The Prime Minister had a shockingly weak response to this
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Speaker 3: very serious matter.
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Speaker 5: Today, a share does his job and scrutinizes intelligence issues
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Speaker 5: on behalf of Australia.
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Speaker 3: How can the leader of a democracy not even condemn
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Speaker 3: attending an event honoring a terrorist, he couldn't be more
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Speaker 3: of a wet lettice. Peter Dutton, much stronger, said there
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Speaker 3: was no place for terror supporters in our country.
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Speaker 6: I find it deeply disturbing. It's like somebody attending the
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Speaker 6: funeral of Adolf Hitler or somebody who had been responsible
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Speaker 6: for deaths of many people at listed terrorist organization, and
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Speaker 6: a person who is the head of a listed terrorist
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Speaker 6: organization is not something to be to be praised. If
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Speaker 6: we've got people here who hate our country, who hate
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Speaker 6: a part of our country, whether it's the Jewish community
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Speaker 6: or Hindus or people of Asian extraction, or because of
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Speaker 6: somebody's religion or no religion, they have no place in
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Speaker 6: our country.
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Speaker 3: And now we can't expose more Australians.
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Speaker 1: Who are at the funeral.
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Speaker 3: Here's Australian artist Tom Toby who wrote on social media
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Speaker 3: on the saddest day of my life, I am honored
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Speaker 3: to be a servant, a servant of the faithful, a
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Speaker 3: servant of the truth, a servant of the heroes, a
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Speaker 3: servant of history, but above all, a servant of the
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Speaker 3: profound legacy. Now, after Nazreala was killed in September, Tom
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Speaker 3: spoke at a rally in Sydney where he yelled long
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Speaker 3: live the Resistance.
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Speaker 7: Come and meet us and know what it is to
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Speaker 7: meet resistance. They are such an exemptlar group of people
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Speaker 7: because when they stand before that disgusting, the crepit, dermonic, zionist,
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Speaker 7: janacidal entity, they say to them, why why do you
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Speaker 7: want to fly blames?
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Speaker 5: Come and meet.
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Speaker 8: Us in.
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Speaker 3: I attempted to contact Tom today but I haven't as
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Speaker 3: yet heard back. Another Australian, Hussein, posted dozens of videos
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Speaker 3: all day from the funeral. He spoke about how the
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Speaker 3: Israeli planes were trying to scare him, and then he
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Speaker 3: posted as he was walking to the burial site later.
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Speaker 1: In Sydney in his spare time.
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Speaker 3: He's a kid's footy coach and he just seems like
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Speaker 3: a regular dat who apparently supports Hesbelah.
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Speaker 1: Now he is.
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Speaker 3: Another Australian known online as ass Sabra. He clearly wanted
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Speaker 3: me to know that he was at the Hasbla Leita's
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Speaker 3: funeral too, because overnight he tagged me in an Instagram post.
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Speaker 3: As you can see there, it says Hi Shari Markson
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Speaker 3: and he's standing next to another Australian who I told
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Speaker 3: you about last night is shak Zane And as you
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Speaker 3: can see in this next footage, he filmed Nazarella's funeral
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Speaker 3: and he shared it all online and after October seven
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Speaker 3: he shared videos on Twitter on x showing the cap
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Speaker 3: of israelis the taking of hostages by Himus with a
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Speaker 3: caption apartheid Israel. Now I should warn you this next
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Speaker 3: footage is distressing and that part we blurred was a
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Speaker 3: hostage who was captured and was.
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Speaker 1: Being dragged on the ground.
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Speaker 3: Now we've asked Tony Burke today what he's going to
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Speaker 3: do about all of this. Firstly, we asked him, does
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Speaker 3: he condemn this in the strongest terms? Is he asking
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Speaker 3: authorities to immediately investigate criminal charges given associating with Hesbelah
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Speaker 3: in some circumstances is a serious terror offense under the
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Speaker 3: Commonwealth Criminal Code. Also, whether these people will be allowed
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Speaker 3: back in the country. He needs to examine all the circumstances,
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Speaker 3: including their citizenship status, whether they're on a visa. Well,
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Speaker 3: you won't believe it, maybe you will. This is what
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Speaker 3: Tony Burk's office said to us in response to those questions.
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Speaker 1: We don't have anything.
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Speaker 3: To add to the comments made by Director General Burgess
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Speaker 3: last night at Senate estimates he couldn't even condemn Australians
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Speaker 3: mourning a terror leader, traveling halfway across the world to
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Speaker 3: attend the funeral of a terror leader. Well, this is
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Speaker 3: what a proper response looks like. This is from Shadow
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Speaker 3: Home Affairs Minister James Patterson, who said Tony Burke should
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Speaker 3: come out of hiding and do his job. If these
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Speaker 3: Nazuela funeral attendees were on visas, they should have already
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Speaker 3: been canceled to prevent them returning to Australia.
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Speaker 1: He can use.
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Speaker 3: Temporary exclusion orders to stop Australian citizens returning while they
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Speaker 3: are investigated for associated with a listed terror organization, but
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Speaker 3: that would require him to put the national interest before
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Speaker 3: his political interest, which he so far has been reluctant
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Speaker 3: to do.
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Speaker 2: Now.
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Speaker 3: Jewish leader Alex Rifchin spoke about the extent of Hesbela
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Speaker 3: support here in Australia when he was on with Chris
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Speaker 3: Kenny earlier.
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Speaker 8: None of this is a surprise because we've seen for
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Speaker 8: sixteen months people walking in the streets of our major
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Speaker 8: cities holding aloft the portraits of Hassan Israela. We've seen
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Speaker 8: mosques in Sydney holding ceremonies to ho In Israela and
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Speaker 8: other fallen Hesbala operatives. So we know that we have
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Speaker 8: this problem in our society. We know there are people
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Speaker 8: amongst us who are sympathetic to this ideology, who view
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Speaker 8: Hasbillah and Israela as being heroes to be emulated. And
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Speaker 8: that is a very dangerous and chilling thing that we're
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Speaker 8: dealing with.
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Speaker 1: Dangerous and chilling.
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Speaker 3: Indeed, we need the Australian government to take strong action
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Speaker 3: here to protect all Australians. It's appalling that these individuals
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Speaker 3: feel so emboldened that they can't only fly to attend
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Speaker 3: an event organized by a listed terror organization, but they
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Speaker 3: feel feel so comfortable posting about it online. It's because
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Speaker 3: this shocking conduct has been tolerated. It's because police never
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Speaker 3: take any action against terror supporters despite the laws available
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Speaker 3: to them. They've allowed support for terrorism, for the most
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Speaker 3: barbaric of crimes to become normalized in our country. The
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Speaker 3: attitude of Tony Burke and Anthony Albanesi simply isn't good enough.
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Speaker 3: They don't deserve to be the Prime Minister and Home
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Speaker 3: Affairs minister, charged with national security and social cohesion. Our
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Speaker 3: message must be unambiguous and uncompromising. It must be that
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Speaker 3: we have zero tolerance for terror and that those who
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Speaker 3: align themselves with the enemies of democracy, freedom and peace
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Speaker 3: have no place in our country or our society. Now,
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Speaker 3: as you can see at the corner of our TV screen,
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Speaker 3: we do have and we'll bring it back right now,
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Speaker 3: we've got live scenes from Tel Aviv. The funeral procession
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Speaker 3: for the Bibas family is underway. The actual eulogies the
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Speaker 3: ceremony will begin at eight thirty pm our time, that's
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Speaker 3: eleven thirty in Israel, and when it does, we will
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Speaker 3: cross straight to it.
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Speaker 1: But now let's have a look at the mud.
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Speaker 3: Slinging that we've seen take place today. The infamous Labor
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Speaker 3: Dought unit is in full swing against Peter Dutton. Multiple
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Speaker 3: reports have emerged in media outlets scrutinizing Dutton's legal purchase
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Speaker 3: of shares seventeen years ago, his property purchases too. Now
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Speaker 3: the Prime Minister today pretended he had nothing to do
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Speaker 3: with any of this.
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Speaker 9: Prime Minister, what's wrong with Dutton making money out of property?
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Speaker 9: Haven't you as well?
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Speaker 5: I made no comment about Peter Dutton's uh matters. That's
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Speaker 5: the matter for him.
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Speaker 6: Prime Minister immicated today done quite an extensive property investment.
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Speaker 9: Does his use of the use of the trust fund
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Speaker 9: the past the pop test.
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Speaker 5: It's a matter for Peter Dutton.
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Speaker 3: But this denial is curious because back on Friday, when
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Speaker 3: Alban Easy was questioned about whether Heat negatively geared he's
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Speaker 3: Copa Cabana holiday house, well, he suggested the journalist examine
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Speaker 3: Dutton's property portfolio.
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Speaker 10: You've got a lot of flack, possibly unfairly so on
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Speaker 10: buying a lovely new home in Copa, Goamana. I've never
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Speaker 10: heard you explain before.
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Speaker 1: Are you negatively gearing it?
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Speaker 5: Seriously? I'll swap my property portfolio with Peters.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: So it doesn't really stack up that the Prime Minister
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Speaker 3: now isn't behind this attack on Dutton's properties and wealth,
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Speaker 3: given he literally raised it with a journalist while he
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Speaker 3: was being filmed on Friday, and then suddenly all of
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Speaker 3: these stories have appeared this week. Peter Dutton today, for
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Speaker 3: what it's worth, he defended his record.
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Speaker 6: I mean they've trowled through every transaction of my life,
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Speaker 6: for my entire adult life, and they've come up with
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Speaker 6: the fact that we've bought and sold properties.
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Speaker 3: Yet labor ministers use the revelations to claim Peter Dutton
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Speaker 3: didn't understand cost of living pressures.
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Speaker 11: He should have declared these property transactions as he's required
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Speaker 11: to do as a member of Parliament. But secondly, I
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Speaker 11: think it gives some insight into why he doesn't think
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Speaker 11: that it's important that governments invest in homes. He's been
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Speaker 11: able to amass a property empire of himself, and good
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Speaker 11: luck to him, he's bought and sold homes. But I
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Speaker 11: don't think that he should be standing in the way
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Speaker 11: and threatening to cut a fund that is actually delivering
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Speaker 11: homes for essential workers, for women fleeing domestic violence, for veterans.
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Speaker 11: They're the people who need homes, people like Peter Dutton
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Speaker 11: and me.
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Speaker 3: This is typical labor playbook. Their dirt unit is the
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Speaker 3: best in the business. And I can tell you that
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Speaker 3: as a former Press Gallery political editor. Peter Dutton slammed
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Speaker 3: the Prime Minister over these dirty tactics.
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Speaker 6: The Prime Minister's office is shopping around dirt sheets at
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Speaker 6: the moment, transactions that go back to when I was
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Speaker 6: twenty years of age, that much is obvious, and I
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Speaker 6: think the Prime Minister's office has tried to shop this
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Speaker 6: story to a dozen journalists. One has picked it up
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Speaker 6: and the others have seen fit not to. I think
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Speaker 6: it reflects poorly on the Prime Minister and the desperation
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Speaker 6: that he's in at the moment.
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Speaker 3: The election campaign hasn't even officially begun, but we've already
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Speaker 3: seen Alberizi roll out many scare the same scare campaign
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Speaker 3: from the twenty sixteen election, and now a grubby attack
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Speaker 3: on Peter Dutton's homes.
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Speaker 1: And by the.
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Speaker 3: Way, we still don't have the answer on where the
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Speaker 3: Albanesi has negatively geared his properties. That's the question that
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Speaker 3: kicked all of this off after all. All right, we're
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Speaker 3: on standby to take you to the Bibas family funeral.
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Speaker 3: But now let's bring in former Victorian Liberal Party president
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Speaker 3: Michael Kroeger and Quillette founder Claire Lehman. Welcome to you both,
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Speaker 3: and let's start with this scare campaign on Dutton's property portfolio.
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Speaker 3: I mean, Michael Kroger, do you think, from your extensive
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Speaker 3: experience in politics, these sort of tactics work with voters?
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Speaker 12: Well, they can work if it forces the resignation of
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Speaker 12: the political figure and involved. But they've fired a blank
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Speaker 12: so far. Peter Creedlin on her shows answered the question
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Speaker 12: about the share acquisitions, and you know, you send someone
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Speaker 12: like Murray, what in Murray's never had a job in
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Speaker 12: the industry. Mary's been a staffer and and a politician
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Speaker 12: and a lawyer. Doesn't seem to understand that the Dutton family,
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Speaker 12: Peter Dutton and his father were in the construction business. Well, Murray,
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Speaker 12: what you do in the construction business is you buy
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Speaker 12: a block of land, if you've got a building license,
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Speaker 12: you build a house. You then on sell it and
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Speaker 12: you make a profit. You go onto the next one.
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Speaker 12: You do that multiple times. You might, as the Duttons did,
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Speaker 12: I gather buy an old Chilker center land in buildings
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Speaker 12: or a house renovated into a childcer center, on sell it,
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Speaker 12: and you do that for as many times as you can.
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Speaker 12: That's what people do in the construction industry. Builders build
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Speaker 12: homes and they sell them. They buy the block of land,
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Speaker 12: it's ub divide it, they build a house and sell it.
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Speaker 12: So he's sort of attacking, you know, the fact that
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Speaker 12: the Duttons were in business in the building industry. So
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Speaker 12: anyone in the building construction industry looking at this is
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Speaker 12: absolutely laughing at Murray Watt because it just shows you
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Speaker 12: he's got no idea how industry works. But look at
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Speaker 12: another level, this is not working because people can't pay
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Speaker 12: their mortgages, they can't buy food, right, That's how bad
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Speaker 12: things are in Australia today. What they want from albo
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Speaker 12: is what is his grand and for a second term
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Speaker 12: and all they see is this much breaking by Murray Watt.
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Speaker 12: It's not helping Olbot. No, it makes it very clear
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Speaker 12: to people at the Cupboins Bear.
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Speaker 1: It's a good point.
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Speaker 3: Albanezy hasn't outlined any vision or agenda for his second term.
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Speaker 1: But you know, Claire back to this, it strikes me that.
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Speaker 3: It's a little bit early for the dirt unit to
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Speaker 3: kick off. We're not officially in the election campaign yet.
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Speaker 13: It is a little bit early.
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Speaker 14: But I would just push back on some of the
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Speaker 14: comments that have been shared tonight and argue that it
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Speaker 14: is a problem for the Liberal Party. It's a problem
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Speaker 14: because they have issues attracting young people and we all
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Speaker 14: know the statistics now, you know in the nineteen eighties,
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Speaker 14: for example, you would need three times the median wage.
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Speaker 13: The median salary to afford a median home now.
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Speaker 14: It's something like thirteen times, So people on a median
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Speaker 14: wage in Sydney cannot afford a median home. And you're
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Speaker 14: getting to the point where young people of a younger
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Speaker 14: generation have to say for a deposit their whole you know,
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Speaker 14: for take many years to say for a deposit.
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Speaker 13: Then when they.
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Speaker 14: Earn enough to service a mortgage, they're in their forties,
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Speaker 14: they go to the bank.
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Speaker 13: They're too old for a loan.
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Speaker 14: So we're locking our society has locked out an entire
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Speaker 14: generation from home ownership. That's a huge problem for conservatives.
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Speaker 14: And the issue is simply it's not that Peter Dutton
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Speaker 14: has a property portfolio. It's that the liberals need to
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Speaker 14: differentiate themselves from labor when it comes to the housing issue.
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Speaker 13: It's not rocket science. We know how to fix this problem.
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Speaker 14: They need to say we're going to stem migration and
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Speaker 14: we're going to increase supply, and they need to take
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Speaker 14: those two things very seriously and prosecute a case for that.
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Speaker 14: If they don't, young people just won't engage.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think housing affordability is an issue for both
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Speaker 3: of the major parties. And you know Albinezy's purchase of
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Speaker 3: the copagavan a man of course, Well, if voters were struggling,
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Speaker 3: they'd probably hold that against him as well.
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Speaker 1: Now, let's have a look at this issue of.
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Speaker 2: Cherry before you do.
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Speaker 12: Before you do to answer, clear, the Dutton's were building
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Speaker 12: houses and building charca centers. Clear they weren't detracting from
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Speaker 12: the property supply the house and supply, they were adding
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Speaker 12: to it.
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Speaker 13: Oh yeah, this is not.
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Speaker 14: A personal thing against Dutton. I'm not suggesting Dutton has
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Speaker 14: done anything wrong. It's just that the Liberal party itself
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Speaker 14: needs to have stronger policy, a stronger policy framework to
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Speaker 14: tackle this issue. I mean the person to look at
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Speaker 14: is Pierre Poulivert in Canada. He's the only conservative leader
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Speaker 14: in the world who is popular with young people. And
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Speaker 14: he's popular with young people because he's targeting housing as
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Speaker 14: the number one issue.
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Speaker 3: And I guess the opposition is doing that, as you say,
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Speaker 3: through saying we're going to bring down immigration levels to
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Speaker 3: take the pressure off that's of housing. Yeah, all right,
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Speaker 3: I want to get to this issue because it's been
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Speaker 3: such a shocking revelation today. Albanese under fire for misleading
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Speaker 3: the public when he claimed incorrectly that China had given
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Speaker 3: notice to Australia of their warship exercises. Have a look
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Speaker 3: at Albanese's earlier inaccurate claim.
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Speaker 5: Australian ships travel to the South China Sea and where
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Speaker 5: that is that the hints there in the name very clearly,
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Speaker 5: and we participate in those activities, including our navy. There
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Speaker 5: was notice given. We have made it clear that we
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Speaker 5: think more notice should have been given.
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Speaker 3: Now Albanzi has misled the public on this and we
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Speaker 3: know that because.
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Speaker 1: Today incented estimates.
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Speaker 3: It was revealed that air safety authorities were alerted to
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Speaker 3: the exercise thirty minutes after they began, thirty minutes after
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Speaker 3: and that was only thanks to a Virgin pilot.
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Speaker 15: Have a look, the only way you knew about this
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Speaker 15: was because a Virgin pilot heard about it and called
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Speaker 15: in it correct Virgin plan.
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Speaker 3: All right, Well, Michael Kroger, you know this is clearly
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Speaker 3: the Prime Minister. He's been exposed for misleading the public.
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Speaker 12: Look, Sharlie, let's be honest about Alboat. To make a
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Speaker 12: point we've made before, he's not up to this job.
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Speaker 12: I mean, I've known most of the Prime ministers in
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Speaker 12: this country dating back to the nineteen seventies. In nearly
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Speaker 12: every case, they were highly gifted, highly intelligent people, a
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Speaker 12: number of Rhodes Scholars, Oxford graduates, very clever people.
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Speaker 1: You have to be.
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Speaker 12: Smart to be prime minister because you've got to be
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Speaker 12: across one hundred different issues on any given day. Albow's
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Speaker 12: never been a detailed person. He wasn't across the detail.
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Speaker 12: He just gave an answer that he came into his
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Speaker 12: head at the time that oh, there was proper warning,
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Speaker 12: because he thinks there's warning, so that's what he knows.
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Speaker 12: So he says, oh, they gave us warning, thinking that's
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Speaker 12: what happened. He didn't know that they hadn't given warning.
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Speaker 2: He had no idea.
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Speaker 12: He wasn't across the detail in the slightest until it's
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Speaker 12: been revealed today. Good old Virgin helped us out. So
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Speaker 12: did he deliberately mislead? The hard headed people would say,
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Speaker 12: yes he did. It's terrible, blah blah blah. Look what
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Speaker 12: I think. I think he had no idea what he
23:27
Speaker 12: was talking about. As is the case with a lot
23:29
Speaker 12: of these issues, he just hasn't got the intellectual capacity
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Speaker 12: to be across the detail. I'm sorry about that, but
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Speaker 12: that's the fact of the matter, Sharry.
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Speaker 3: Just before I get Clare's response, I just want to
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Speaker 3: explain to everyone what you're seeing on your screen. Now,
23:42
Speaker 3: maybe we can pull up the Tel Aviv footage in
23:45
Speaker 3: full screen. So tens of thousands of Israelis have lined
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Speaker 3: the streets all the way across Israel to pay their
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Speaker 3: respect as the funeral procession goes past. So it is
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Speaker 3: now the funeral procession is nearing approach the Kibboltz near Oz.
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Speaker 3: Kibboltz near Oz, that's where the Bibas family we're from.
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Speaker 3: That is where the funeral will be. It is a
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Speaker 3: private funeral, but it's going to be broadcast live. So
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Speaker 3: right across Israel, tens and tens, maybe even hundreds of
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Speaker 3: thousands of Israelis have gathered to pay their respects as
24:18
Speaker 3: the procession passes. So we're looking at some of those
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Speaker 3: crowds now the footage before. Obviously Israelis were leaving as
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Speaker 3: the vehicles had already passed. The eulogies are on track
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Speaker 3: to start in about eight thirty after they do Yarden,
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Speaker 3: it will be the first time we hear from Yarden,
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Speaker 3: the father and husband of Shiri and baby Kafir and Ril,
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Speaker 3: and it will be in Hebrew, but we'll bring it
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Speaker 3: up and we'll try to tell you what he's saying
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Speaker 3: as best as we can.
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Speaker 1: All Right, A very quick response now.
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Speaker 3: Claire, to this issue of Albinezi misleading the public over that.
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Speaker 13: It's part of a pattern, isn't it.
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Speaker 14: Albo has a habit of amising or outright denying threats
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Speaker 14: not just to our national security but our internal social cohesion.
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Speaker 14: It's in the too hard basket, I think for him,
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Speaker 14: he's shown he doesn't have the spine to stand up
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Speaker 14: against those who would intimidate us and threaten us, but
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Speaker 14: also provide reassurance to the Australian public that we're in
25:25
Speaker 14: safe hands.
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Speaker 13: He's just failed that repeatedly.
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Speaker 3: All Right, Claire Leeman, Michael Kroger, thank you both very
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Speaker 3: much for your time today. Thank you, k all Right,
25:35
Speaker 3: and let's bring in Now we're going to return to
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Speaker 3: the exclusive that I had tonight and last night about
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Speaker 3: Australians attending the funeral of Terra le To Hassan Nasraala,
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Speaker 3: and let's bring in our former Australian Federal Police Detective
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Speaker 3: Superintendent and counter terrorism expert David Craig.
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Speaker 1: David, thank you very much for your time.
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Speaker 3: Firstly, do you think Home Affairs and Borderforce should have
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Speaker 3: stopped these individuals traveling to Lebanon for the funeral given
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Speaker 3: that some were known to authorities?
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Speaker 16: Of course, Shari, the answer to that can only be
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Speaker 16: of course, there are orders where we could have prevented
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Speaker 16: their travel right up the front. The only reason that
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Speaker 16: it didn't happen, I would expect is that we didn't
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Speaker 16: have active intelligence reporting quickly at the time. Regardless, the
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Speaker 16: horse has bolted. As far as I'm leaving the country,
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Speaker 16: where we need to exert our pressure now, Shari is
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Speaker 16: on them returning. If there was a lack of intelligence
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Speaker 16: to stop them leaving Australia, we now have an abundance
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Speaker 16: of these people associating with terrorists and advocating for terrorism.
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Speaker 16: By attending that funeral, we should be able to prevent them,
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Speaker 16: regardless of their status, from coming back to Australia.
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Speaker 3: And so if they are Australian citizens, ultimately they have
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Speaker 3: to be allowed to return. But Tony Burke does have
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Speaker 3: the power to temporarily stop them from returning while the
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Speaker 3: investigations are underway.
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Speaker 16: That's correct. A temporary exclusion what it can be given,
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Speaker 16: and it can keep an Australian citizen that's over fourteen
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Speaker 16: years of age outside Australia for up to two years.
27:09
Speaker 16: And when we do, if they are successful in getting
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Speaker 16: a return permit, then we can put on conditions that
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Speaker 16: satisfy and mitigate the threat to the community as they
27:19
Speaker 16: come back in. That's what should be happening here. I
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Speaker 16: noticed yesterday Mike Burgess, the Director General of Asia, was
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Speaker 16: saying that in regard to threats to life, anti Semitism
27:31
Speaker 16: was his agency's highest priority. Now at this funeral, we
27:35
Speaker 16: had tens of thousands of people, including I suspect the
27:39
Speaker 16: Australians chanting death to Israel. I would like to see
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Speaker 16: the Director General's actions be as good as his words.
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Speaker 3: Meanwhile, we also heard the ASIO bus Mike Burgess today
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Speaker 3: tell a Senate committee, under questioning from James Patterson, that
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Speaker 3: anti Samitism is Australia's top threat.
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Speaker 1: Have a look at this.
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Speaker 15: What's your senis about the increase in the level of
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Speaker 15: antisemitism right now?
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Speaker 4: In terms of my organization, our threats are faced, threats
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Speaker 4: to life, threats to way of life, in terms of
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Speaker 4: threats to life. It's my agency's number one priority because
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Speaker 4: of the weight of incidents we're seeing play out in
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Speaker 4: this country.
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Speaker 13: Well, when would you've ever said before that a form
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Speaker 13: of racism was the number one concern for Asier.
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Speaker 4: I don't believe we've done that in.
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Speaker 13: A history, David.
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Speaker 3: You know thatout wording that this is the greatest threat
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Speaker 3: to life, it's truly terrifying.
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Speaker 1: What does he mean by this?
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Speaker 9: What he means is that the loss of life is expected,
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Speaker 9: and we are sitting at a terrorism level of probable,
28:39
Speaker 9: which means more than a fifty percent chance over the
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Speaker 9: next twelve months where will be a terrorist attack, there
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Speaker 9: will be an antisemitic attack ending in the loss of life.
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Speaker 9: That's what Burgess is talking about.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, David Craig really appreciate your time. So
28:56
Speaker 3: we're going to take a quick break because we're just
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Speaker 3: minutes away from the start of Sheery Aril and Kafir
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Speaker 3: Bibas's funeral in Israel.
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Speaker 1: Will cross live to the eulogies.
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Speaker 3: I'm also going to bring you that exclusive a bit
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Speaker 3: later on the Bibas family hitting back at Albansi for
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Speaker 3: his callous.
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Speaker 1: Remarks that's coming up. Welcome back.
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Speaker 3: Okay, we're still on standby for the eulogies to begin,
29:21
Speaker 3: and in the meantime as we wait, we're going to
29:23
Speaker 3: keep the vision up there on the screen. But I'm
29:26
Speaker 3: going to tell you about how angry the Bibas family
29:29
Speaker 3: are at alban Eazi now. On Monday night, on the show,
29:33
Speaker 3: I revealed that Albanisi didn't know anything about the grotesque
29:36
Speaker 3: coffin display where Palestinians celebrated on stage around the coffins
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Speaker 3: of baby Kafir and Ril.
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Speaker 5: It is shocking as worthy of condemnation, which is why
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Speaker 5: they should have no role in the future.
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Speaker 10: But on a human level, to see that footage and
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Speaker 10: the spectacle that they put on, what was.
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Speaker 5: Your reaction, Well, I haven't seen it, Sam, with respect,
29:59
Speaker 5: but but you know this is the atroses that have
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Speaker 5: occurred from October seven, quite rightly, have been condemned by
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Speaker 5: everyone across all of certainly the major political parties, and
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Speaker 5: you know it's horrific what people have gone through.
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Speaker 3: So the Bibass family have shared their fury at Albanezi
30:28
Speaker 3: over his remarks, which I played for in my editorial
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Speaker 3: on Monday night. Jarden's aunt Mikhal, She's lived in Australia
30:36
Speaker 3: for many years. She's of course in Israel at the moment.
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Speaker 3: It has been for weeks now. She wrote a Facebook
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Speaker 3: post that she sent to me this morning and gave
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Speaker 3: me permission to share, and she said she was ashamed
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Speaker 3: to be an Australian.
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Speaker 1: She said.
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Speaker 3: Albanezi claimed he hadn't seen the horrific footage of the
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Speaker 3: coffins of our babies Ariel and Kafir being grotesquely paraded,
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Speaker 3: all the appalling mistake made with Shiri's remains.
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Speaker 1: Even when confronted.
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Speaker 3: He failed to articulate how he feels about it. He
31:08
Speaker 3: acknowledges that Hermas is a terror organization. Yet this government
31:12
Speaker 3: and in particular Penny One, continues to direct our tax
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Speaker 3: dollars to Hermas Unra, despite undeniable evidence of their close ties.
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Speaker 3: The government must go. The upcoming elections cannot come soon enough.
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Speaker 3: That is from the Bibas family. From Yarden's aunt Michal,
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Speaker 3: She also spoke about her devastation. She said, while we
31:35
Speaker 3: celebrate the release of my beloved nephew Yard and Bibbas,
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Speaker 3: who was held hostage by these monsters, our joy is
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Speaker 3: overshadowed by unimaginable grief for the brutal, gruesome murder of
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Speaker 3: Yarden's family, Shiri Riel and baby Kafir at the hands
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Speaker 3: of Hermas, a terror organization elected and supported by Gazans.
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Speaker 3: As the footage from before during an hour after October
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Speaker 3: seven makes painfully clear, she says, I will never forget
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Speaker 3: and never forgive those who harmed my family and my people,
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Speaker 3: the monsters who carried out these atrocities, those who supported them,
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Speaker 3: and those who had the power to act but chose
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Speaker 3: to stay silent in the face of this pure evil.
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Speaker 3: Now very strong words, extremely strong words. Therefrom an aunt,
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Speaker 3: who is hurting right now, she is at that funeral.
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Speaker 3: She sent that message to me this morning, thanking us
32:36
Speaker 3: for our coverage, which obviously she does not need to do.
32:39
Speaker 3: All of our hearts are with the Bibas family. We
32:42
Speaker 3: will forever love baby Kafir, Ariel and Shurian. We're looking
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Speaker 3: at the screen right now, waiting for the eulogy to begin.
32:49
Speaker 3: As these live pictures are coming through, you can see
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Speaker 3: the Israelis turning out in the masses.
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Speaker 1: This is one of the darkest.
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Speaker 3: Days in Israel's history, burying a nine month old baby, Ariel,
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Speaker 3: the four year old brother. We think now that we're
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Speaker 3: looking at the funeral procession, the coffins of baby Kafir
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Speaker 3: and Ariel and Shiri are now going through the streets
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Speaker 3: on their way to the funeral at their kibbutz, their
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Speaker 3: home where they were kidnapped from their beds in their pajamas.
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Speaker 1: A nine month old.
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Speaker 3: Baby murdered by Palestinian terrorists. A month later when he
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Speaker 3: was just ten months old. His four year old brother
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Speaker 3: two Kafir never got to his first birthday. He never
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Speaker 3: made it to his first birthday. And now today Israel
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Speaker 3: is out showing solidarity with the trauma and devastation of
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Speaker 3: this family, and the whole world is watching. Every rational,
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Speaker 3: good hearted person in the world. Our hearts are with
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Speaker 3: the Bibas family right now. They're with the Yarden father
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Speaker 3: and husband who is right now about to have the
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Speaker 3: worst moment in his life burying.
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Speaker 1: His wife and his two little baby boys.
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Speaker 3: Absolutely senseless, horrible, cruel murder.
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Speaker 1: There's no reason for it.
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Speaker 3: And you think about how their kidnapping was celebrated by Palestinians,
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Speaker 3: civilians and Hamas supporters in Gaza. This is the procession.
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Speaker 3: We're seeing that now that tens of thousands of Israelis
34:35
Speaker 3: have come out to pay their respects, and right now
34:39
Speaker 3: this is hostage Square in Tel Aviv. A lot of
34:42
Speaker 3: people gathered around the screens because while the funeral is private,
34:45
Speaker 3: it will be broadcast live. It will be in Hebrew.
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Speaker 3: I'm hearing that it is running late at this point
34:53
Speaker 3: in time, and where we just saw their live pictures
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Speaker 3: of the cars as they make their way through this. Okay,
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Speaker 3: we're going to come back to this, but let's bring
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Speaker 3: in now for some reaction and what will keep those
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Speaker 3: live pictures on the screen. Let's bring in our liberal
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Speaker 3: national senator James McGrath. James, what's your reaction to this?
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Speaker 3: What we're seeing right now? Israel out in force burying
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Speaker 3: a baby, a child, a loving mother, James McGrath, burying
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Speaker 3: a mum.
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Speaker 2: And two children who were murdered. All of Israel, but
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Speaker 2: all of us who believe in a civilized society. Are
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Speaker 2: it just so down and so sad at the moment
35:42
Speaker 2: because the Bibas family represent the hatred that has been
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Speaker 2: visited upon Israel by Hamas and all the other terrorist
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Speaker 2: groups and terror states who want to destroy that country
35:57
Speaker 2: and the civilizations that lie within Israel. And that's why
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Speaker 2: Australia must stand with Israel. And that's why Australians must
36:05
Speaker 2: stand with the Bibbers family, and that's why we must
36:09
Speaker 2: bring them all home because there are still hostages being
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Speaker 2: held by a mus And this is what I think
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Speaker 2: some Australians have forgotten about, is that there are still
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Speaker 2: people being held by this terrorist organization. So it is
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Speaker 2: a very very sad day. But also Shari, it's why
36:29
Speaker 2: we must make a stand against anti Semitism. This is
36:33
Speaker 2: why Australians must come together and shout at those people
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Speaker 2: who allow anti Semitism to grow.
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Speaker 3: And you just think about the support that this movement
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Speaker 3: James has had in the west On University campuses, at
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Speaker 3: international institutions, United Nations, the push even by our own
36:54
Speaker 3: Foreign minister to recognize Palestinian statehood at the United Nations,
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Speaker 3: despite the fact that did this, that did this to
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Speaker 3: baby Kafir and Ril and Sheerry, despite the fact they
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Speaker 3: are still the governing body in Gaza. And you just
37:10
Speaker 3: wonder where all sense, reason, rationality and morality has gone
37:15
Speaker 3: in the world.
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Speaker 1: What do you think about this?
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Speaker 2: It has left the building in a way because you
37:24
Speaker 2: have politicians in Australia, and you have political parties in Australia,
37:29
Speaker 2: and I am going to call out the Greens political
37:32
Speaker 2: party who are, in my view, a racist and anti
37:35
Speaker 2: Semitic party, a party who support the BDS movement, a
37:42
Speaker 2: party who refused to support the definition of anti Semitisms
37:49
Speaker 2: as written and as agreed by over thirty countries, including Australia,
37:54
Speaker 2: a bipartisan approach the definition of anti Semitism. The Greens
37:58
Speaker 2: are the only party in this st Israelia have refused
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Speaker 2: to accept that definition of anti Semitism. So it's my job,
38:05
Speaker 2: and it's your job, and it's everybody watching this program
38:08
Speaker 2: and everybody who goes onto my social media channels and
38:12
Speaker 2: looks at when we call out the Greens, and we
38:14
Speaker 2: call out these people who attack Israel and attack a
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Speaker 2: fellow liberal democracy and fail to attack mus and fail
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Speaker 2: to call for the return of all hostages.
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Speaker 3: Indeed, and you know, we often hear from the likes
38:33
Speaker 3: of certainly the Greens, but even from Albanezi government ministers.
38:36
Speaker 3: You hear more often criticism of Israel than you do
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Speaker 3: the demand for the hostages to be returned. I mean,
38:43
Speaker 3: how often has any Albanezi government minister spoken about the
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Speaker 3: Bibast family. Now, just to update you on what's going
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Speaker 3: on at the moment, the procession is heading towards southern
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Speaker 3: Israel to Kibbutz near Oz.
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Speaker 1: It's on its way. It is running late.
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Speaker 3: The eulogies were meant to begin at eleven thirty in
39:01
Speaker 3: the morning Israel time, which is eight thirty pm Our time, but.
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Speaker 1: It is running late.
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Speaker 3: I can also tell you the Knesset, that's the Israeli Parliament,
39:09
Speaker 3: has just held a minute silence for the Bibass family.
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Speaker 3: Masses tens of thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands of Israelis
39:16
Speaker 3: have turned out to pay their respect to The footage
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Speaker 3: you're looking at now live is from Hostage Square.
39:23
Speaker 1: In Tel Aviv. You might be able to hear the
39:25
Speaker 1: music as.
39:25
Speaker 3: Well, where Israelis are waiting for the.
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Speaker 1: Start of this funeral.
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Speaker 3: Because this family, the Bibast family, has captured the hearts
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Speaker 3: of all Israelis and many of us around the world
39:38
Speaker 3: as well. All we wanted to see, all we were
39:41
Speaker 3: praying for, is to see the safe return of baby
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Speaker 3: Kafir and Baby Ariel and their mother Shiri and James,
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Speaker 3: for me, the images of and as a mother myself,
39:55
Speaker 3: the images of Shiri as she tried to hold and
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Speaker 3: protect her children. She held them close to her chest,
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Speaker 3: baby Kafir and Ariel, as she was being shuffled and
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Speaker 3: pulled around.
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Speaker 1: By terrorists, by.
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Speaker 3: Palestinian terrorists and civilians who kidnapped her. And she was
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Speaker 3: just in the greatest of distress trying to protect her babies.
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Speaker 1: And you just can't bear.
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Speaker 3: We now know, just in the past few days, we've
40:21
Speaker 3: learned just how brutal and violent their murders were.
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Speaker 1: That they were murdered by bare hands.
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Speaker 3: That is what Yarden has given permission for the world
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Speaker 3: to know, that they were.
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Speaker 1: Murdered violently by bare hands.
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Speaker 3: And it doesn't get worse than this, James, and now
40:40
Speaker 3: here we are about to watch their funeral, about to
40:43
Speaker 3: watch these beautiful children be.
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Speaker 1: Laid to rest.
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Speaker 2: It doesn't get worse then seeing two young children who
40:53
Speaker 2: have been murdered. This is why sometimes in politics and
40:57
Speaker 2: life there is a moral clarity, is a difference between
41:01
Speaker 2: light and darkness. And what happened on Israel on the
41:05
Speaker 2: seventh October was the darkest of days, but it is
41:10
Speaker 2: it is a wake up call to all of us
41:12
Speaker 2: to make sure that we must defend our fellow citizens,
41:16
Speaker 2: our fellow Jewish citizens in Australia and understand that there
41:20
Speaker 2: was a choice to be made between lightness and dark
41:24
Speaker 2: between this coming election. And I don't want to politicize
41:26
Speaker 2: what's going on in Israel at the moment, but in
41:29
Speaker 2: Australia there is a fight over the moral clarity of
41:32
Speaker 2: the future direction of this country. The weak leadership of
41:36
Speaker 2: Anthony Albanezi, who has allowed anti Semitism to become such
41:41
Speaker 2: a serious security issue in this country, or someone like
41:44
Speaker 2: Peter Dutton, Will Will who will strengthen our resolve and
41:48
Speaker 2: stand up for Jewish Australians.
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Speaker 3: The contrast, the contrast couldn't be greater.
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Speaker 1: James McGrath, thank you very much for your time.
41:57
Speaker 3: We're going to leave it there because we're going to
41:59
Speaker 3: cross now to Nicole Zedek from twenty four in Israel.
42:05
Speaker 3: We're going to bring Nicole Zedek in I twenty four
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Speaker 3: it Israel. Nicole, thank you very much for your time. Now,
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Speaker 3: President Isaac Herzog has just released a statement. We're waiting
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Speaker 3: for the funeral to begin of the Bibas family. Isaac
42:17
Speaker 3: Herzog has just released a statement very moving. He says,
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Speaker 3: the entire country and entire people are in a time
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Speaker 3: of mourning. He says, all of us and entire people
42:28
Speaker 3: with broken hearts are accompanying them to eternal rest. This
42:32
Speaker 3: is not how we prayed for them to return to us.
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Speaker 3: In our mind's eye, we saw them returning, shining with
42:38
Speaker 3: their golden heads, with the lively, playful gaze that shine
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Speaker 3: in their little eyes.
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Speaker 1: Nicole, Israel is grieving today.
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Speaker 17: Israel is certainly grieving today. It's an unofficial day of mourning.
42:51
Speaker 17: As you see on the screen, tens of thousands of
42:53
Speaker 17: people who have been taking to the streets following this
42:56
Speaker 17: funeral procession as it made its way from central Israel
43:00
Speaker 17: towards southern Israel, where it's still making its way. And
43:02
Speaker 17: one of the reasons that it was delayed was because
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Speaker 17: of the masses of people that followed this funeral procession
43:09
Speaker 17: every step of the way to give one final goodbye
43:12
Speaker 17: to the Bevis family. And there's a very difficult day
43:15
Speaker 17: here in Israel. As you see, if not only the
43:18
Speaker 17: wave and sea of Israeli fags, but those orange balloons
43:22
Speaker 17: that have also become a symbol of those two little
43:25
Speaker 17: red headed boys and their mother Sharri as well, and
43:28
Speaker 17: so it's incredibly difficult. But also this can provide some
43:33
Speaker 17: sort of closure for many of the Israeli public, finally
43:36
Speaker 17: seeing them lay dressed after more than five hundred days
43:40
Speaker 17: in terror captivity. But many of the family members and
43:43
Speaker 17: many of the Israeli publics say that even though they
43:45
Speaker 17: are seeing this funeral procession and these three souls finally
43:51
Speaker 17: buried here in Israel, they can't actually get that closure
43:53
Speaker 17: until all of the hostages are back home. As we're
43:56
Speaker 17: speaking right now, there are still sixty three hostages in
43:59
Speaker 17: the Gazastre. Four more bodies or expected to be released
44:03
Speaker 17: either today or tomorrow. These four bodies included in Fez
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Speaker 17: one of the Seaspire deal, where we saw thirty three
44:09
Speaker 17: names on that list. But the questions remaining around Phees
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Speaker 17: two of this Sea Spire or there could possibly be
44:14
Speaker 17: an extension of Phees one or the while sixty three
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Speaker 17: people hostages are still in the Gaza Strip. Until they're
44:22
Speaker 17: all back home, the Israeli public says that that little
44:25
Speaker 17: bit of closure will not be there, and so that
44:27
Speaker 17: is also why today is such a difficult and emotional
44:31
Speaker 17: day from many people here in Israel.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it is indeed out for the Jewish community in
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Speaker 3: particular around the world, but as well anyone who has
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Speaker 3: any goodness in their hearts will be absolutely devastated.
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Speaker 1: This is a dark day for everyone. Nicole.
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Speaker 3: You just mentioned there that the funeral is delayed because
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Speaker 3: of just how many Israelis turned out to show their support.
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Speaker 3: So we're waiting for that still to begin. It was
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Speaker 3: meant to begin about twenty minutes ago.
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Speaker 1: Can you tell us how the the eulogies will work.
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Speaker 3: Who we're expecting to hear from very shortly.
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Speaker 17: Well, we've already heard some of statements coming out from
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Speaker 17: the b Beast family yard and Bivas his sister in fact,
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Speaker 17: so the sister in law of Shari Vivas already stating
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Speaker 17: that we're watching with grief, and Yarden wishes that he
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Speaker 17: could hug every single one of the people of the
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Speaker 17: masses of Israelis that are accompanying him and his family
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Speaker 17: on this emotional and devastating day, and he says that
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Speaker 17: he hopes one day soon that the Israeli public will
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Speaker 17: not only be united in grief, but in more joyful
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Speaker 17: times and so that's so far the message that we're
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Speaker 17: hearing from the Bibas family. We'll likely hear more emotional
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Speaker 17: eulogies from the Biba's family, from Shii's sister as well,
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Speaker 17: the only living member of her family still alive, as
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Speaker 17: far as the sister of Shii, as Shiri's two parents
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Speaker 17: were also killed on October seventh during the massacre at
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Speaker 17: their home in kutznir Oz. And so this is also
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Speaker 17: a difficult day because it brings many of those emotions
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Speaker 17: back from October seventh, and it's a grim reminder of
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Speaker 17: the reality that the people here in Israel have been
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Speaker 17: facing and coming to terms with over the past sixteen months.
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Speaker 17: This is a grim reality when you watch some of
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Speaker 17: these funerals, seeing which family members are present to give
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Speaker 17: a eulogy and which family members are not present to
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Speaker 17: see their daughter being laid dressed. And so we will
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Speaker 17: be hearing some of those emotional eulogies later in the day,
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Speaker 17: possibly even hearing from President Isaac Kertzog as well. We
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Speaker 17: heard from yesterday as Odin Liftschit's eighty three year old
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Speaker 17: peace activist who was also one of the bodies returned,
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Speaker 17: along with sharing Ril and Kmerbibus voted. Liftschitz was also
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Speaker 17: laid dressed at his home in kabutznair Oz just yesterday,
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Speaker 17: and we heard from Isaac Kurtzog then as well as
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Speaker 17: oh had Liftschit's wife, you Heaven lift Chits, who was
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Speaker 17: also kidnapped on October seventh. These are two peace activists
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Speaker 17: who spent their life transporting Palescindians from the Gaza Strip
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Speaker 17: to receive proper healthcare here and Is. And so you
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Speaker 17: haven't said what it was so shocking about their abduction
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Speaker 17: was that they were kidnapped, But it's very seen people
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Speaker 17: that they spent their life trying to help, and so
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Speaker 17: we're expected to hear some very more emotional bulogies. And
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Speaker 17: you can see everyone here on is anxiously waiting and
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Speaker 17: coming together and really trying to support each other through
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Speaker 17: this difficult day.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, and you mentioned Odad Lifshits, and you
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Speaker 3: know the reality that he had spent his whole life
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Speaker 3: helping Palestinians trying to achieve peace. And this has been
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Speaker 3: a big wake up coll because we know we can
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Speaker 3: see there's no pretending Hamas doesn't want peace. It merely
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Speaker 3: exists to bring murder and destruction.
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Speaker 1: The fact that it can target a.
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Speaker 3: Tiny baby, a child, their loving mother. This is why
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Speaker 3: we're watching this funeral procession. And not only were they
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Speaker 3: kidnapped from their homes, their beds, they were murdered by
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Speaker 3: bare hands.
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Speaker 1: Kafir. The violent death at just ten months old so traumatic.
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Speaker 1: You can't even imagine.
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Speaker 3: A baby killed by terrorists like this in a movement
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Speaker 3: that's one so much support Nicole around the world, including
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Speaker 3: here in Australia.
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Speaker 1: A baby that.
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Speaker 3: Never got to celebrate his first birthday and the world
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Speaker 3: is watching as he's buried today.
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Speaker 17: And Shary what you're speaking about right now, this shock
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Speaker 17: and this surprise. I think it does speak to the
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Speaker 17: Israeli safety as well, because even after the October seventh massacre,
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Speaker 17: where Israel was shown firsthand the cruelty of this terror
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Speaker 17: group inside Gaza that indiscriminately murdered Israelis, Christians, Muslims, foreign
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Speaker 17: workers who are here just working the agricultural fields. Five
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Speaker 17: of them still captive in Gaza. They're part of those
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Speaker 17: sixty three that are still there. They have no ties
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Speaker 17: from Israel. We're talking about a Nepalese, a Tanzanian and
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Speaker 17: a Thai worker that are still in Gaza. And so
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Speaker 17: that talks about the indiscriminate heat and cruelty we saw
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Speaker 17: from Hamas. It's still following October seventh, when we saw
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Speaker 17: the and heard about the cruelty that these tear groups
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Speaker 17: did in the way that they killed those two little
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Speaker 17: GiB Us boy as well as Shari, Israeli public was
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Speaker 17: once again shocked. And that's what surprises many of us
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Speaker 17: when you hear this news. How can we again and
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Speaker 17: again be shocked by the cruelty. But that's the Israeli spirit,
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Speaker 17: and that's the spirit even of Odd Liftshitz and No Heaven.
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Speaker 17: We spent their life trying to make peace with those
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Speaker 17: people across the border. And every time that we hear
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Speaker 17: another wake up call, and we're facing one of those
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Speaker 17: wake up calls today with the funeral of Shari, Ariel
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Speaker 17: and Kafir. It's shocking that Israel can still be shocked
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Speaker 17: by the cruelty of the Tearan group that is in Gaza.
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Speaker 17: Yet still there's these remnants of hope that Israel thinks
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Speaker 17: that they can continue to move past some of these
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Speaker 17: darkest days. I think that's what brings the Israeli public together,
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Speaker 17: those moments of hope that they can continue to cling
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Speaker 17: onto despite the horrors and the cruel to you we
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Speaker 17: continue to learn about.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, Nicoleztek, really appreciate your time.
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Speaker 1: Thank you very much for joining us on this terrible,
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Speaker 1: sad day in Israel.
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Speaker 3: And we're going to stay with these pictures. We're waiting
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Speaker 3: now for the eulogy to begin. We'll bring you the
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Speaker 3: live pictures as they come. This is what the international
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Speaker 3: news agencies are playing. But let's bring in now for
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Speaker 3: more analysis. Sky News contributed Kosher Gada Kosher.
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Speaker 1: It's against this.
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Speaker 3: Backdrop that we are that Donald Trump is having conversations
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Speaker 3: with Israeli Prime Minister Benjaminette and Yaho about how to
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Speaker 3: move forward, about whether to move on to the second
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Speaker 3: phase of the hostage deal, which would mean that Israel
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Speaker 3: needs to withdraw from the Gaza strip, or do they
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Speaker 3: go in and defeat Hamas once and for all. That
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Speaker 3: was always a goal of this war, as Benjamin Netanya
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Speaker 3: who outlined it. But as we've seen in recent times,
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Speaker 3: though they have been you know, thoroughly decimated, their leadership
51:04
Speaker 3: has been killed. There is a strong movement there Hamas
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Speaker 3: is still in control in Gaza Kosha Gata.
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Speaker 1: What are your thoughts?
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Speaker 18: Yes, absolutely, and what a dash are you know? There
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Speaker 18: are a few tragedies in the world, and a world
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Speaker 18: that unfortunately sees many tragedies that really elicit the kind
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Speaker 18: of visceral reaction that this one is from around the world,
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Speaker 18: as you've been covering throughout the hour, And that word
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Speaker 18: you use, backdrop is so critical because it does sort
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Speaker 18: of refocus or remind the world a little bit about
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Speaker 18: the fundamentals of this conflict and that evil exists and
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Speaker 18: how do you address it. So with that backdrop, you're right,
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Speaker 18: I mean, I think it does have some impact. And
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Speaker 18: the way that whole negotiation is going to play out,
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Speaker 18: I think President Trump is going to continue with his
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Speaker 18: view of being very, very supportive and a strong ally
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Speaker 18: of Israel to do what they must for defending their
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Speaker 18: sovereignty and their national security, ale still maintaining as much
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Speaker 18: non introventionalism as possible because that is part of his agenda,
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Speaker 18: And I think he's going to try and continue to
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Speaker 18: thread that needle. But I think the pictures that we're
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Speaker 18: seeing now in this momental hero definitely please a rule
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Speaker 18: and just how the optics as well as the policy
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Speaker 18: is going to shap and this is.
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Speaker 3: A deep moment, a major movement for everyone around the world.
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Speaker 3: This has been front page news in most international newspapers
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Speaker 3: Argentina because the Bibest family were part Argentinian as well
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Speaker 3: as Israeli, and in fact there are Australian members of
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Speaker 3: the Bibast family, as I've been speaking about tonight. Yet
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Speaker 3: Argentina has had a two day morning period for Kafia
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Speaker 3: and ril buildings right around the world have been illuminated
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Speaker 3: in orange lights out of respect. Australia has done nothing
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Speaker 3: Kosher Gada. Our leaders have barely spoken about the Bibass
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Speaker 3: family at all.
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Speaker 1: This is a major deal.
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Speaker 3: Well, this is truly one of the darkest moments for Israel,
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Speaker 3: but also big news right around the world. Just the
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Speaker 3: reality of laying to rest a baby and a four
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Speaker 3: year old and their mother who were killed by terrorists,
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Speaker 3: and it just feels, especially the Prime Minister and the
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Speaker 3: Foreign Minister pennywe really have underestimated the brutality of this
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Speaker 3: and just how much the story of the Bibat family
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Speaker 3: has resonated with people, not just the Jewish community, but
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Speaker 3: people right around the world.
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Speaker 18: Yes, you've been making that point so effectively all week
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Speaker 18: and that clip that we saw of the Prime minister,
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Speaker 18: and it's been our two days since then and still nothing,
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Speaker 18: which can only lead us to one conclusion that it
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Speaker 18: is a deliberate calculation. I hate to use that word
53:52
Speaker 18: on a day like this, but there might be a
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Speaker 18: political calculation there where the left wing of politics right now,
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Speaker 18: in an election year over here, is trying to walk
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Speaker 18: that line of constituents in the bass, the Labor Party
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Speaker 18: base that they want to appease, if you will, with
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Speaker 18: the controversies and the aspects of this conflict that have
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Speaker 18: not had consensus in that base, and that's kind of
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Speaker 18: what they're.
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Speaker 1: Either playing to or pandering to.
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Speaker 18: But I really think it's such a it's wrong, immral,
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Speaker 18: But it's also a missed opportunity because moments like these,
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Speaker 18: as sad as they are, they can actually be very unifying.
54:25
Speaker 18: It's a way to come across as very statesman like.
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Speaker 18: There's so many examples of where this has happened in
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Speaker 18: the world before. After September eleventh, I remember Queen Elizabeth
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Speaker 18: had the Changing of the Guard, played a star spangled
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Speaker 18: banner which had never been done before, for instance. So
54:38
Speaker 18: there's a real opportunity here to show what's right and
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Speaker 18: wrong and evil and good and all of that, while
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Speaker 18: also actually shoring up your bona fides as a statesman.
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Speaker 18: And I think it's very conspicuous that that has not
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Speaker 18: happened in Australia.
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Speaker 1: In data it has.
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Speaker 3: So look, if you're watching now, if you've just tuned in,
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Speaker 3: we're looking at live pictures from Hostage Square, what's known
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Speaker 3: as Hostage Square in Tel.
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Speaker 1: Aviv, Israel.
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Speaker 3: Tens of thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands of Israelis have
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Speaker 3: come out to the street to watch the funeral of
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Speaker 3: the Bibas family, baby Kafir, brother Ariel, and mother Shiri.
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Speaker 3: It is a private funeral for the family near Vekibuts
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Speaker 3: in southern Israel, near the border with Gaza, but it
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Speaker 3: will be broadcast lives. So you're looking at Israeli's standing
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Speaker 3: waiting for that funeral to begin, for the eulogies to begin,
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Speaker 3: when we will hear from Yarden, father and husband for
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Speaker 3: the first time. It's one of the darkest days, and
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Speaker 3: in truth, we've all fallen in love with these children,
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Speaker 3: with their loving mother.
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Speaker 1: She battled terrorists.
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Speaker 3: She held her babies close to her chest, trying to
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Speaker 3: protect them.
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Speaker 1: She couldn't do so. She would have given anything to
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Speaker 1: protect them. She would have given her whole heart to
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Speaker 1: protect them.
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Speaker 3: And now, today, the darkest of days, their funeral. For
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Speaker 3: continuing coverage from Israel, we're running this footage on the
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Speaker 3: Election Channel or on the Sky News app. But that's
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Speaker 3: all I've got time for today. I'll see you tomorrow
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Speaker 3: at eight.
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Speaker 1: And right now, here's Paul Murray live from Vegas