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Huddle Up Podcast: Wednesday, June 15 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: The fields on a group proudly presents Huddle Up with
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  Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks. J P. Shadrick, John Ojer and NFL Network
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  Speaker 1: Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks starts right now. Welcome into
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  Speaker 1: the Huddle Up Podcast and is Wednesday, June. J P.
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  Speaker 1: Good afternoon. What's up? What's up, guys? What's haddening? How
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  Speaker 1: are we doing well? Off season? Is over now, which
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  Speaker 1: is a good thing. We just got off the practice field,
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  Speaker 1: John from the final mandatory Mini camp practice. It was
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  Speaker 1: a little less than an hour heck of a practice. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: And if the other practices were low key, really low
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  Speaker 1: key because of the numbers, and it's it's uh, it's
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  Speaker 1: over and and that's what's important. And it appeared this
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  Speaker 1: week no injuries there into the off season and they
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  Speaker 1: can come back here when it really matters. That's a
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  Speaker 1: good thing. We'll get into that a little bit more
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  Speaker 1: coming up later. But some news that overshadowed Mini Camp
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  Speaker 1: this week for the Jaguars came from Bruce Smith. You're mad, bro.
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  Speaker 1: He went on Instagram and said the process negatively portrayed
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  Speaker 1: him in order to boost Tony Boselli for the Hall
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  Speaker 1: of Fame. He said a number of things on Instagram,
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  Speaker 1: but in part, the Hall of Fame is an exclusive
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  Speaker 1: fraternity following a tacit code of conduct, foster's respect and
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  Speaker 1: brotherhood between its members. He later said that he finds
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  Speaker 1: it difficult to compare the totality of Tony's body of
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  Speaker 1: work with those in the NFL's greatest left tackles, with
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  Speaker 1: the exception of Anthony Munio's, Jonathan Ogden, Willie Rofe, and
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  Speaker 1: Walter Jones all protected the blind side of the quarterback
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  Speaker 1: for twelve seasons or more. In Jacksonville, Leon Cercy for
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  Speaker 1: the arduous task of protecting Mark Brunel's blind side. That
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  Speaker 1: was just a couple of quotes. Guys. I know John
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  Speaker 1: has a lot to say about this, Bucky. I know
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  Speaker 1: you'll have some insight as well. H John, would you
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  Speaker 1: like to be get what happened to a tacit code
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  Speaker 1: of conduct JP? Apparently that's out the window. I mean
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  Speaker 1: in all series this is uh, I'm gonna back off
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  Speaker 1: for a second. To me, this was pitiable on Bruce
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  Speaker 1: Smiths part I. And what I mean by that is
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  Speaker 1: it frankly sounded like a guy who's holding onto the
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  Speaker 1: past who can't accept that Tony Boselli had a great
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  Speaker 1: game against him. UH what years ago? First of all,
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  Speaker 1: as an ad he's the word advocators for Tony Boselli's candidacy.
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  Speaker 1: I assume he's referring to people such as myself. I
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  Speaker 1: assume what set this off was UH I had contacted
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  Speaker 1: try to contact through the bill. I tried to contact
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  Speaker 1: Bruce for this series of podcast I was doing, I
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  Speaker 1: think a Jaguars documentary team and tried to do the
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  Speaker 1: same thing. I'm sure others in the in the JacksonIn
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  Speaker 1: market have done so. Um So, perhaps from his perspective,
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  Speaker 1: he's sitting there and without trying to talk me down
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  Speaker 1: by playing Tony up, couldn't be further from the truth. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: But it just struck me as being very sensitive that
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  Speaker 1: the feelings got hurt and he's mad about it, And frankly,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not surprised when I sent out the requests. I
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  Speaker 1: sent out request to Jason Taylor, who's in the Hall
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  Speaker 1: of Fame, by the way, who when I talked to
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  Speaker 1: him about a podcast, he if I had had a
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  Speaker 1: phrase to use, it would have beantastic code of conduct.
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  Speaker 1: He was completely classy. Uh, enjoyed talking about Tony, enjoyed
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  Speaker 1: talking about propping a player up who deserved it. Michael McCrary,
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  Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens defensive end. I'm sure Bucky remembers him. Same deal.
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  Speaker 1: When I sent the things out to Bruce, I caveatted
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  Speaker 1: both requests with I understand it might not happen because
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  Speaker 1: my understanding is it's been a sensitive subject for Bruce
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  Speaker 1: for a long time, so I didn't think it would happen.
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  Speaker 1: I thought this was classless and Bucky, go ahead, I've
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  Speaker 1: got more of it. I'm gonna go on and on.
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  Speaker 1: It's gonna get boring. No, look, I think this is
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  Speaker 1: interesting because I think what it does is it sprites
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  Speaker 1: at the man who is look Man, one of the
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  Speaker 1: legends of the game, and Bruce Smith and certainly uh
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  Speaker 1: that was a huge game for Tony, was a huge
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  Speaker 1: game for the Jaguars, the franchise have him played in
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  Speaker 1: that game. I know how big it was for Tony
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  Speaker 1: to play and dominate like he did. It was one
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  Speaker 1: of the reasons why we're able to go on the
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  Speaker 1: road and win that game. And so what Bruce has
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  Speaker 1: to understand that like it or not, he's a gold
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  Speaker 1: jacket guy, and gold jacket guys are always used as
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  Speaker 1: measuring sticks for others who aspired to be gold jacket wears.
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  Speaker 1: And so that game is probably one of the best
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  Speaker 1: examples of Tony's dominance in the league. And so you
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  Speaker 1: want to showcase that just like you want to showcase
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  Speaker 1: it against any of the other Hall of famers, are
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  Speaker 1: highly decorated players that he played against and played well against.
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  Speaker 1: And so you're right, it is one of those things
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  Speaker 1: where Bruce is sensitive about it. I'm sure he's been
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  Speaker 1: inundated with request about it. But at the end of
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  Speaker 1: the day, man, we're talking about a game there was
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  Speaker 1: twenty five thirty years ago. Like, look, give his props,
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  Speaker 1: give Tony his props for the way that he played,
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  Speaker 1: and look wished him well as he makes his way
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  Speaker 1: into the All of Fame, because like it or not,
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  Speaker 1: he's a Hall of Famer and he is going to
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  Speaker 1: be in the fraternity, and so you might just want
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  Speaker 1: to accept an of knowledge, and I think that's what
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  Speaker 1: you know. I'm gonna give Bruce benefit it out. I
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  Speaker 1: went off early, but I'm sure on on some level
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  Speaker 1: he was trying to do the right thing and perhaps
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  Speaker 1: didn't think about the effect that it would have on Tony.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm gonna say Tony's going to tank about it.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure he's upset about it. I would be, um.
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  Speaker 1: I think the big picture here, though, is Bruce's legacy
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  Speaker 1: is secure. Obviously, you know the fact that we play
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  Speaker 1: that game up so much speaks to Bruce's legacy. His
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  Speaker 1: legacy is secure. He has his football life, his bust,
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  Speaker 1: his status in Buffalo. He's a legend and nothing can
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  Speaker 1: ship away at that. Uh, that's safe. That will never
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  Speaker 1: be harmed, even if there were fifteen stories like this.
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  Speaker 1: I to Tony, after waiting six years, didn't deserve to
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  Speaker 1: have his Hall of Fame credentials questioned again after six
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  Speaker 1: years of the voters going over at the way they did. Um,
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  Speaker 1: he didn't deserve that. And I think that's what kind
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  Speaker 1: of ticks me off, JP, I mean, and maybe I
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  Speaker 1: take it personally a little bit because I was with
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  Speaker 1: Tony many times when he didn't get in. He handled
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  Speaker 1: it so classly, but of course it hurt. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and he's a friend, so it it it
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  Speaker 1: irritates me. But he didn't deserve to have that question
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  Speaker 1: come about and have that revisited after he had made
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  Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. He lives that. He like you said,
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  Speaker 1: he's lived that for sixty seven years already, and all
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  Speaker 1: the way to the end where he doesn't get in
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  Speaker 1: most of the time, and then finally finally reaches the goal,
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  Speaker 1: gets in, has the accolades to come with it, and
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  Speaker 1: you know, we're a month away from a little over
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  Speaker 1: a month away a month and a half from the
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  Speaker 1: end in time and ceremony, and this is blown up
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  Speaker 1: again out of nowhere, and we gotta hear this. It's
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  Speaker 1: just wrong and it's a phrase. Be bigger than that,
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  Speaker 1: even if it's bothering you, Bruce, be bigger than that.
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  Speaker 1: I just thought, yeah, it was that was unnecessary and Petty.
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  Speaker 1: I would guess at some point they'll talk Bucky and
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  Speaker 1: just kind of clearly air or whatever. I mean, no
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  Speaker 1: one knowing Tony and I don't know Bruce, but maybe
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  Speaker 1: behind a building, maybe maybe Tony will block him again
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  Speaker 1: at the enshrinement. Who knows. I think I think they
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  Speaker 1: both let you roll to be dealing with those one
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  Speaker 1: on one for reason Ken, But I'm sure they have
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  Speaker 1: the conversation. They'll get past it. This will not diminish
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  Speaker 1: or dimmed the light on Tony over that weekend. Look, man,
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  Speaker 1: once he's in, he's one of what three hundred or
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  Speaker 1: so that are recognized as the greatest to ever play
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  Speaker 1: the game. I don't think Tony really really peers that
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  Speaker 1: Bruce is upset about it or not, because he's in
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  Speaker 1: the club. And once you're in, man, you did. It's
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  Speaker 1: just like everybody else and one final thought on this
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  Speaker 1: jpes the Bruce Smith domination, and that day was a domination.
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  Speaker 1: They played again the next year and Bruce again didn't
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  Speaker 1: have a sack. They played again in the following year.
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  Speaker 1: Bruce had one sack and it was you know, uh,
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  Speaker 1: Tony Stonewall, Jason Taylor out here. Derrick Thomas had seven
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  Speaker 1: sacks in I came in here and Tony handled him
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  Speaker 1: like it was nothing. That was not Tony Boselli's only game.
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  Speaker 1: He was a three time All Pro, five time Pro
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  Speaker 1: Bowl or two time Offensive Lineman of the Year all decade. Guy. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: Tony wouldn't do this, so in this for this audience,
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  Speaker 1: I'll do it. He didn't have to apologize to anybody.
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  Speaker 1: And Bruce Smith was not the only defensive lineman. Who's
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  Speaker 1: six three two. Mandatory Mini Camp is a rap as
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  Speaker 1: is the off season that's after this. Welcome back to
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  Speaker 1: the Huddle Up Podcast. J P. Shatrick Bucky Brooks, John Osian,
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  Speaker 1: all right, John No, Yes, Michael C. Jewel, Yeah right,
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  Speaker 1: I did in the mid ninety that Jewel was good. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: a couple of moments beyond that, that group. I know
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  Speaker 1: you're you're a big fan of trucks. Yeah, that's kind
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  Speaker 1: of your They have not last I am at some
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  Speaker 1: point I need to see them because we don't. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I have plans. Are you using that night? How about that? Bucky?
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. Forget it. Unbelievable. You're uninvited. You are uninvited.
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  Speaker 1: All right, So many camp wrapped up today. We touched
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  Speaker 1: on this a moment ago, but yeah, he he really
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  Speaker 1: kind of ratcheted down the schedule a little bit and
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  Speaker 1: made each of these practices Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday an hour
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  Speaker 1: or less on the field it was really kind of
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  Speaker 1: the teaching, the warm up, the individual position groups, and
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  Speaker 1: then today at least there was one drive of what
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  Speaker 1: seven on seven or what what could be done? And
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  Speaker 1: inter a touchdown, a lot of passes to tight ends
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  Speaker 1: and Nasbell Hannon looks pretty good. I mean, there's some
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  Speaker 1: things that kind of stood out. Bucky. That's a good
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  Speaker 1: thing when he got your tight ends running around making
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  Speaker 1: catches the young guys. I'm surprised, Bucky wouldn't hear you like,
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  Speaker 1: so a mini camp so you'd fly back across the country. Bucky. Oh, well,
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  Speaker 1: you know, um, I didn't know what it would look like.
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  Speaker 1: And the abbreviated schedule. I know that plays to John's
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  Speaker 1: favor the hour or less. I tend to like a
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  Speaker 1: little more about football if I'm a trek across the country.
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  Speaker 1: But I think it was great for Doug to get
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  Speaker 1: the veterans off, except those that were coming off injuries
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  Speaker 1: and the newbies, because it allowed the coaches to spend
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  Speaker 1: more one on one time with those guys, really get
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  Speaker 1: them up to speed. And I think we'll see a
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  Speaker 1: difference in training camp because the guys will be able
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  Speaker 1: to play fast because they know where they're doing fucky
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  Speaker 1: you were in Uh, I know you had a chance
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  Speaker 1: to sit down with Doug when you were here. Did
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  Speaker 1: he mention that he was going to do that? And uh,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I feel like the reasons he did it
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  Speaker 1: or sound. I mean, they're they're going back to camp
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  Speaker 1: a week early. Uh, you know, yeah, I'm fine with
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  Speaker 1: the whole thing. I'm wondering if he mentioned it to
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  Speaker 1: you and you share any thoughts with you on it. No,
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  Speaker 1: but just his general approach to practice in the training
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  Speaker 1: camp and those things. Um, he's one that doesn't like
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  Speaker 1: to waste a lot of time. So hey, man, if
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  Speaker 1: we can do our work, we do it the way
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  Speaker 1: that we want to do it, and it comes in, uh,
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  Speaker 1: in less time than the schedule time, let's get off
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  Speaker 1: the field. Uh. He doesn't want to just kind of
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  Speaker 1: grind him, you know, and to push him to the
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  Speaker 1: ringer if it's unnecessary. But he wants to see a
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  Speaker 1: high level of execution. He wants to see the effort
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  Speaker 1: in the enthusiasm at the right spot. And once he
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  Speaker 1: gets those things accomplished, they don't get off the field.
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  Speaker 1: And I would expect to see not necessarily a one
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  Speaker 1: hour practice in training camp. But I don't think those
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  Speaker 1: training camp practices will be long. If the guys are
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  Speaker 1: operating at an efficient level and the performance look like
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  Speaker 1: it's going to be a high level of performance, well
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  Speaker 1: let's hope they're efficiing JP because short training camp fractices
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  Speaker 1: are good. Hey, Bucky Um does that as a former player? Uh,
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  Speaker 1: this Doug's approach on that? How meaningful is that sort
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  Speaker 1: of thing? In terms of building trust? You say, hey,
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  Speaker 1: if you guys get your work done, if you're efficient,
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  Speaker 1: if you're here, then I'm not gonna run you into
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  Speaker 1: the ground. I assume that's a big part of it, right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean it's part of being a pro. Uh. You
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  Speaker 1: know when you have a bunch of professionals, they know
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  Speaker 1: exactly what they do, they know how to do it,
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  Speaker 1: they show it for work early, they take your business. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you don't need to keep them around. He is not
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  Speaker 1: one that is, Hey, let's look around the clock and
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  Speaker 1: see how many hours we have to clock in so
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  Speaker 1: we can tell everybody, oh, we're out working the rest
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  Speaker 1: of the league. It's about coming in, understanding what you're
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  Speaker 1: being asked to do, making sure that you do it
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  Speaker 1: at a high level, and then be done with it.
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  Speaker 1: It is part of being a players coach, but it's
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  Speaker 1: also part of teaching these guys how to be professionals.
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  Speaker 1: Because as he is here and as the Jaguars have
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  Speaker 1: a high level of success, this is the way that
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  Speaker 1: it goes when you win, and you win at a
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  Speaker 1: high level. Um, you don't necessarily have to keep the
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  Speaker 1: guys around a turn. You tell them, look, let's play
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  Speaker 1: like pros. Let's make sure it looks at like a
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  Speaker 1: championship team on the field. And if it looks like
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  Speaker 1: that are rewards. You about making sure that I don't
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  Speaker 1: keep you here long? Then you need to be JP.
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  Speaker 1: Bucky said a mouthful right there, No, no, and I
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  Speaker 1: say that was a good. Um. So much of this
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  Speaker 1: league is we have to work eight hours because the
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  Speaker 1: Buccaneers worked seven and a half. I mean, and uh,
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  Speaker 1: it's it's pandemic in this league. Hey, hey, we have
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  Speaker 1: to sleep on a cot, protect the desk, the whole thing,
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  Speaker 1: or we have to sleep on the floor because we
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  Speaker 1: hear the Titans sleep on a cot this week, you know, so,
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  Speaker 1: uh refreshing to not have that anyway, go ahead. A
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  Speaker 1: few vets that were involved this week, though, Rayshawn Jenkins
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  Speaker 1: I saw out there yesterday, Leviscus Chennault earlier this week,
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  Speaker 1: Jamal ag knew all three days starting to move around
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  Speaker 1: some and you know, return kicks in the whole deal.
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  Speaker 1: Rudy Ford I saw today getting some work in. So
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  Speaker 1: you know, there were a few guys out there that
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  Speaker 1: needed to kind of maybe clean up some things might
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  Speaker 1: have come off injury. A few extra days on the
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  Speaker 1: field on a bad thing for those guys, and so
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  Speaker 1: it was good to see some of those guys out there. John. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think somebody like Rudy Ford. You know, if a
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  Speaker 1: lot of these guys people don't realize don't leave town
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  Speaker 1: immediately because they're off. Rudy a veteran thinking there was
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  Speaker 1: mini camp on Wednesday or came through Wednesday, probably has
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  Speaker 1: his fight to a rub on Thursday. So he's probably
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  Speaker 1: going well, I mean, and and he's here anyway, wants
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  Speaker 1: to work out comes in and Okay, I'll go ahead
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  Speaker 1: and run around a little bit and make sure I've
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  Speaker 1: got this technique right. So uh yeah, I mean, and
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  Speaker 1: I've said it on a couple of different outlets this week.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's the key thing to remember about this
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  Speaker 1: mini camp being extended um or being cancel for veterans.
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  Speaker 1: O t a s by definition, are supposed to be voluntary,
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  Speaker 1: and they had the mini camp originally because you needed
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  Speaker 1: a mandatory session at the end because you weren't sure
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  Speaker 1: what veterans are gonna be there during O t a S. So,
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  Speaker 1: by definition, if you have high attendance during O t
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  Speaker 1: a S, you shouldn't need the mini camp. The minicamp
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  Speaker 1: was originally set because O t a s were very voluntary,
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  Speaker 1: but but the coaches want to make sure they had
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  Speaker 1: at least three days with these guys. If O t
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  Speaker 1: S full, you should have gotten all your work done.
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  Speaker 1: You shouldn't need a mini camp. That's my theory anyway.
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  Speaker 1: I think if you get the first O t A done,
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  Speaker 1: you're fine. One one and done one and done well.
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  Speaker 1: I mean there there's a lot of truth to what
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  Speaker 1: John is saying, because if you have high attendance numbers,
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  Speaker 1: and in Jacksonville, you should always have that because it's
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  Speaker 1: a nice place to live. The weather is warm. Uh,
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: it's probably conducive to being able to stay around year round. Yeah,
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: you don't need to necessarily have the mandatory mini camp.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: If guys are are being there, you know sometimes if
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: we are never privatey that, but sometimes it's kind of
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: like a week a wink not agreement between coach and player. Hey, man,
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: if you guys take care of business in the off
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: season program with the O T A S. If we
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: have like hit a certain mark when it comes to
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: tennis numbers, hey maybe I'll give you mandatory minicamp week
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: off is uh an incentive to keep guys around, but
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: to let them know that, hey, we'll we'll cut the
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: off season programs short. You're going to have your vacation,
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: make sure you continue to work out while you're away, um,
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: and be ready to go when you come back. If
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: memory serves, Dungee did that a little bit when I
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: was in Indie. Um. As long as O T A
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: S in the off season went all right, training camp
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: we start a couple of days later. So that's so
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: the off season program was complete, as is our off
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: season program schedule on this podcast. At least we've got
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: Happy Hour on Thursday. The ozone podcast coming up later
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: this week, and uh, we're gonna shut her down Bucky
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: for about five weeks, but the three of us will
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: get together on a zoom just to meet up, just
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: see how it's going, you know, So look for that
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: in your schedule, Bucky. We won't put it out, it'll
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: just be us on a zoom. Oh well, look, man,
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to us getting together for some old
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: UH podcast O t a work. As I know, big
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: of a fan, Johnny is of organized team activities, and
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: so I look forward to seeing him run around and
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: making sure that he's at his best when we get
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: ready for training camp. Bucky, as we wrapped this overall
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: UH offseason, thought on the Jaguars, you know, man like
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: it's easy to get uh litled into the thing of
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: like a man, I think they can be a much
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: better team because of what Doug is doing. But honestly
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: feel like this is a team that is gonna be
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: a lot better than many expect. I think the pieces
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: are in place for this team to have a house
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: standing training camp, and they kind of hit the we're
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: all running. You know, what does that look like when
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: we get to shocking up wins and losses. I don't know,
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: but I think there's a feeling and maybe a quiet
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: confidence around the building UH that this team is gonna
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: be real competitive. And I'm just really excited to see
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: what it looks like when we kind of strap on
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: the pass here in a month or so. It does
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: feel JP and I us Ben wrap with this. It
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: does feel like they feel like as a team organization
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: players that last year's last year now and that yeah,
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: I mean it. Uh. I don't know exactly when that
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: happens during an offseason, you know, is it conversation X
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: with a player in the hallway with Doug. I don't know.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: But as they wrap this, UM, I don't know how
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: fans see it because fans are necessarily see inside, but
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: within the building, Uh, you really don't get when they
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: get questions as players and coaches about last year. Now,
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: there is a feeling among players of you haven't thought
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: about in a while, like it's kind of over. And
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: I think that was It's pretty public knowledge. That was
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: a big goal of Dougsuh for this offseason. I feel
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: like on that front, JP, uh mission has been accomplished
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: in the off season. Maybe you feel the right way.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: It feels that way now and I think once they
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: show back up for training camp, there will be no
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: question that they're moving forward. Only. I mean, we had
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: goal this offseason that was probably it right, Yeah, just
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: build up at least to that you're gonna get some
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: questions in this offseason, and then by the time June
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: rolls around, the past should be the past for the
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: most part. But once July hits, it's all about twenty
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: two and beyond. And I think that's the what this
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: thing should feel and look like when we get back,
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: and we will be back in five weeks. We have
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy our radio tomorrow though, um Chat Griffin schedule
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: to join us, and we're out to Pete Prisco too,
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: see if he has anything to say about what's happening. Oh,
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: he'll have some, Bruce thought. I think he might can
• 21:58
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