Latest / Moser, Lombardi and Kane / 2-18-26 Hour 1 - Remembering Doug Moe/Rapids Head Coach Matt Wells/NBA ASG Still Busted?
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- 0:00Speaker 1: This is Mosher, Lombardy and Kane on demand. Listen live
- 0:05Speaker 1: every weekday morning from seven to ten on Altitude Sports
- 0:08Speaker 1: Radio ninety two five and on the Altitude Sports Radio app.
- 0:13Speaker 2: All right, so a lot to get to today.
- 0:15Speaker 3: The US men's Olympic hockey team takes the ice again
- 0:19Speaker 3: today at one ten, taking on our dear Landeskog's sweet
- 0:24Speaker 3: I'm sorry Lendeskorg his Swedish team. So that's at one ten.
- 0:30Speaker 3: A bunch to talk about from the last few days, now, Vick,
- 0:33Speaker 3: I just want to open up a couple of minutes
- 0:35Speaker 3: here because I know that you knew Doug mo Well.
- 0:37Speaker 3: I said earlier that I know the legacy of this
- 0:40Speaker 3: man in his career, but I don't know enough about
- 0:43Speaker 3: him to feel comfortable speaking totally on it. So I'll
- 0:45Speaker 3: open the floor to you.
- 0:46Speaker 2: Haley's comment, that's all I could say.
- 0:49Speaker 4: I know most your new Doug from days at the
- 0:53Speaker 4: other station app.
- 0:55Speaker 2: That's where I work with Doug for a while.
- 0:56Speaker 4: Yeah. I had the privilege of, as you guys know,
- 1:01Speaker 4: way back when I was a child, I was a
- 1:03Speaker 4: ball boy for the Denver Nuggets, and I happened to
- 1:06Speaker 4: be a ball boy during the Doug Moo era, and
- 1:09Speaker 4: I learned a new language from Doug Mo and the
- 1:12Speaker 4: language of profanity. In the words of Earth Brown, he
- 1:15Speaker 4: was the most curious, most joyful, most celebratory, most unique
- 1:20Speaker 4: coach I've ever come across. And I think he was
- 1:22Speaker 4: the last of a bastion. He was the last of
- 1:24Speaker 4: the coaching carousel that actually made friends with media. His
- 1:30Speaker 4: best friends were in the media. His best friends were us,
- 1:34Speaker 4: believe it or not, and Tom Green and the Cannon
- 1:38Speaker 4: and Ronzipolo, and you know, to his very last breath,
- 1:42Speaker 4: those were his friends. And he understood them, and they
- 1:45Speaker 4: understood each other, and nothing was personal ever. And I
- 1:49Speaker 4: just think that Doug Mo a guy like come around
- 1:52Speaker 4: again personality like that, somebody who lived and breathed basketball
- 1:58Speaker 4: but never took himself too seriously. You just don't see
- 2:01Speaker 4: that anymore. You don't. You don't see the way he coaches.
- 2:04Speaker 4: His practices were an hour long. That's it. He didn't
- 2:07Speaker 4: do anything else. He didn't have a freaking play, he
- 2:11Speaker 4: didn't have a he didn't call anything during the game.
- 2:14Speaker 4: He made them run the same thing the entire game,
- 2:17Speaker 4: and it worked. Wonders for the decade of the eighties.
- 2:20Speaker 4: Coming up in the nine o'clock hour, we will join
- 2:22Speaker 4: two of his former players, Danissel Hall of Famer, his
- 2:28Speaker 4: Reminiscence of Doug MO, and my friend Bill Hanslick, who
- 2:32Speaker 4: Doug MO considered the biggest stiff of all and you
- 2:35Speaker 4: want to talk about whipping boys and the way he
- 2:37Speaker 4: was treated. Bill has nothing but love for Doug. She
- 2:41Speaker 4: tells you what kind of man he was, what kind
- 2:43Speaker 4: of relationship they had. Again, if you're a Nuggets fan,
- 2:47Speaker 4: do me a favor, one favor. Go to YouTube, I
- 2:51Speaker 4: posted it yesterday. Go to the Altitude plus appet you
- 2:54Speaker 4: have that and watch the documentary we produced in twenty eighteen.
- 3:00Speaker 4: It remains my proudest achievement of my career, the greatest
- 3:04Speaker 4: work I've ever I've ever done. I had a chance
- 3:06Speaker 4: to spend days with Doug and his family down in
- 3:09Speaker 4: San Antonio. We unearthed some rare interviews. You know, it's
- 3:13Speaker 4: not easy getting interview with Greg Popovich and Larry Brown
- 3:16Speaker 4: and pat Riley. But when we mentioned we're doing it
- 3:18Speaker 4: for Doug Mo, they opened their doors right away. That's
- 3:21Speaker 4: what kind of ticket he provides.
- 3:24Speaker 2: By the way, welcome back motion, Thanks appreciate it y. Yeah, Vick,
- 3:28Speaker 2: I I got the word I don't want to say
- 3:32Speaker 2: some weeks ago, a few weeks ago, that it was
- 3:37Speaker 2: probably not going to be too long with Doug, and
- 3:42Speaker 2: so I immediately sent a message to Tom and and
- 3:46Speaker 2: you know, it's just anyway. The point is that I
- 3:50Speaker 2: knew this was coming, but when it does come, it's like,
- 3:52Speaker 2: my goodness, gracious. Doug was nothing but great to me
- 3:55Speaker 2: when I was just a young pop total idiot coming
- 3:58Speaker 2: into this town and so on and so fourth and
- 4:00Speaker 2: and that was very nice to me. When I started
- 4:02Speaker 2: actually doing hockey full time, it was very nice to me.
- 4:06Speaker 2: And I thought that was that was very conciliatory of him.
- 4:08Speaker 2: And just as Vic said, Brett, he's simply there will
- 4:13Speaker 2: never ever, ever ever be another human being in the
- 4:17Speaker 2: world of sports like Doug mo ever period.
- 4:20Speaker 4: You know most you got me thinking Doug mo was
- 4:23Speaker 4: very much like this show, believe it or not.
- 4:26Speaker 5: Not.
- 4:26Speaker 4: To give us a pat on the back, I'm just
- 4:28Speaker 4: talking about his style, his love his love language. Doug
- 4:31Speaker 4: Moe's love language was trash talk was put downs. Yeah,
- 4:36Speaker 4: he would see you and just put you down, but
- 4:38Speaker 4: in a loving way, in a brotherly way. So he did.
- 4:43Speaker 2: I'd walk into the studio and he goes, hello, I
- 4:46Speaker 2: can't uh Blake Blakehead, Hello, Blakehead. I'm like, you know
- 4:52Speaker 2: that can I mean, it's just he he uh, just
- 4:57Speaker 2: it's just such a unique person, you know.
- 4:59Speaker 3: Just.
- 5:00Speaker 2: I mean, the way he did things was so it
- 5:03Speaker 2: was so against the grain in the NBA at the time.
- 5:06Speaker 2: Brett he, I mean, honestly, he the way he changed
- 5:11Speaker 2: the game, what he did with these Denver Nuggets to
- 5:14Speaker 2: try and win in the nineteen eighties. And by the way,
- 5:17Speaker 2: I'm gonna go on record again as saying it, Vic,
- 5:19Speaker 2: if it's not for those stupid Lakers and all that
- 5:21Speaker 2: showtime crap where they stacked that team with Kareem and
- 5:25Speaker 2: Magic and Worthy and Ac and everybody else you want
- 5:29Speaker 2: to throw into the sun, the Denver Nuggets would be
- 5:32Speaker 2: multiple time NBA champions by the end of the decade. Yeah, Vick,
- 5:36Speaker 2: I'm convinced of it. Yeah, they would have won at
- 5:38Speaker 2: least two NBA championships. I'm convinced of it. Anyway, It's
- 5:41Speaker 2: just it's a sad day because Doug was beloved in
- 5:44Speaker 2: this town. Hell, he was beloved wherever he went. It
- 5:47Speaker 2: was so great he had an innate ability to collect
- 5:51Speaker 2: checks from from different teams. I think when he was working,
- 5:55Speaker 2: when I was working with him, he was still getting
- 5:57Speaker 2: paid by Philly and by San Antonio. I think he's
- 6:02Speaker 2: the only coach.
- 6:05Speaker 4: When he was fired by the Nuggets, he's the only
- 6:07Speaker 4: coach who held his own goodbye press conference at the
- 6:10Speaker 4: facility and it was sold out. It was standing room only,
- 6:13Speaker 4: and everybody was there for him to say goodbye. That's
- 6:16Speaker 4: what kind of reverence he held in town. As luck
- 6:19Speaker 4: would have it, tonight, I'm going to be moderating this
- 6:23Speaker 4: panel for the new movie Soul Power, the film that's
- 6:26Speaker 4: on Amazon Prime. If you haven't seen it yet, give
- 6:28Speaker 4: it a look about the ABA, and a bunch of
- 6:31Speaker 4: his friends will be there. I'll be visiting with George Carl,
- 6:35Speaker 4: Ralph Simpson, Chuck Williams. They all played in the ABA,
- 6:38Speaker 4: as did Doug, and this cannot be forgotten. We remember
- 6:43Speaker 4: Doug mo as a coach. He was a hell of
- 6:45Speaker 4: a player. He really was hell of a player. He
- 6:47Speaker 4: finished second in the ABA MVP voting in nineteen sixty nine. Second.
- 6:53Speaker 4: That's what kind of player he was. He won a
- 6:55Speaker 4: championship ABA Championship with the Oakland Oaks. He was highly reveal.
- 7:00Speaker 4: He just a player before he became a coach.
- 7:03Speaker 3: So we'll talk to Bill hans Lake. We'll talk to
- 7:05Speaker 3: danisl on the nine o'clock hour in the meantime.
- 7:07Speaker 2: Real quick, though, I think that, and I know that
- 7:10Speaker 2: David Adaman doesn't have any ties to Doug Mo. But
- 7:12Speaker 2: I sent up this tweet a couple of years ago,
- 7:16Speaker 2: and what about this is I found it. I found
- 7:18Speaker 2: it last night. What did I say there?
- 7:23Speaker 3: Just one time before I'm gone, I'd like to see
- 7:25Speaker 3: an NBA coach show up courtsight with an outfit like
- 7:27Speaker 3: Doug Mo.
- 7:28Speaker 2: I would love to see, like David Adalman just wear her,
- 7:33Speaker 2: just wear a Doug Mo suit on the sideline one time.
- 7:36Speaker 4: Where the tie comes undone and both sides are just
- 7:39Speaker 4: down the.
- 7:39Speaker 2: Down, down the middle. Uh. He's got you know, like
- 7:43Speaker 2: a bright maroon jacket on with with the lower pants
- 7:47Speaker 2: and you know, it was just it was just such a.
- 7:50Speaker 3: Great Well that's what isn't there like a Kim Mulky
- 7:52Speaker 3: outfit that the Chicken coach is lsu that crazy Kim lady. Yeah, yeah,
- 7:58Speaker 3: she always wears some flam buoyant shirt or something well, this.
- 8:01Speaker 2: Was I mean, this was the style back in the day,
- 8:03Speaker 2: but Doug had his own style. It was It's just
- 8:07Speaker 2: it's a sad day for Denver sports. It's a sad
- 8:09Speaker 2: day for the game of basketball. And you see the
- 8:11Speaker 2: tributes pouring Endvic. I mean, he touched an awful lot
- 8:14Speaker 2: of people. Again, a lot of people inside the game
- 8:17Speaker 2: revered him.
- 8:19Speaker 4: Think about this, this this is the last, my last
- 8:23Speaker 4: mention of how great a coach he was. He had
- 8:27Speaker 4: his own coaches show on television. Who's the last basketball coach?
- 8:32Speaker 4: Think about this for a second. Can you think of
- 8:35Speaker 4: another basketball coach who had a weekly coaches show on television.
- 8:40Speaker 4: It doesn't happen. They have radio shows, we have him here,
- 8:43Speaker 4: but a television show. He did that for three years
- 8:46Speaker 4: with ron Zapolo and it was musty television. It was
- 8:50Speaker 4: that good.
- 8:50Speaker 3: Not Dawn. He's got about five So I'll talk to
- 8:57Speaker 3: Danislondugmo on the nine o'clock hour in the meantime, USA
- 9:01Speaker 3: taking on Sweden today and the game against Germany over
- 9:06Speaker 3: the weekend. Really funny because I've made an admission Moge.
- 9:10Speaker 3: I know that a lot of people disagree with me
- 9:12Speaker 3: on this, but my admission is when the Kachuck brothers
- 9:15Speaker 3: wear the red, white and blue, I'm in. I love
- 9:19Speaker 3: the Kachuck brothers on this team. When they were barking
- 9:22Speaker 3: at dry Sidle saying always the bride's maid, never the bride,
- 9:26Speaker 3: I love that, And I think this team kind of
- 9:28Speaker 3: needs to have that sort of that calls it sandpaper
- 9:31Speaker 3: to him, because look, we're all hoping for the same thing.
- 9:35Speaker 3: That it's the US in Canada in the gold medal match,
- 9:41Speaker 3: and that the US wins. Now Canada is stacked in
- 9:46Speaker 3: a way that's kind of unbelievable. It's like the greatest
- 9:49Speaker 3: players of this generation are all on the same team
- 9:52Speaker 3: at the same time. It's wild. But I feel like
- 9:57Speaker 3: if the US gets in it, they got a shot.
- 9:59Speaker 2: They got a Oh sure they do. I mean, believe
- 10:02Speaker 2: me when I tell you the Canadians they're they're worried
- 10:05Speaker 2: about They're worried about Team USA. Now Team USA has
- 10:09Speaker 2: to get by Sweden today. Sweden's playing back to back.
- 10:13Speaker 2: They got the win yesterday. They club Latvia pretty good.
- 10:17Speaker 2: They were up to nothing. They score within forty one seconds.
- 10:19Speaker 2: Landy had a tally. Landy had a tally yesterday, but
- 10:22Speaker 2: by the way, it was a really nice goal.
- 10:24Speaker 3: Explain how this works. By the way, is this just
- 10:26Speaker 3: like what kind of elimination are we in right now?
- 10:29Speaker 2: Because the usf you lose, you're gone despite going three. No,
- 10:32Speaker 2: that's it, okay, gotcha, you lose, you're gone. And again,
- 10:36Speaker 2: it's a pretty damn tough thing to get, by the way.
- 10:39Speaker 3: So Germany just got bounced this morning by Slovakia.
- 10:42Speaker 2: Correct. And the reason that the reason that that Sweden
- 10:47Speaker 2: had to play yesterday is because even though they won
- 10:49Speaker 2: the game, they gave up a late goal I think,
- 10:51Speaker 2: to Slovakia to make it five to three into the
- 10:54Speaker 2: five to two beat they lost on the they lost
- 10:57Speaker 2: a tie breaker on the gold differential, so they I
- 11:00Speaker 2: had to play us. It's just it's funky, but I
- 11:02Speaker 2: guess you gotta do it in a short tournament like that. Anyway.
- 11:05Speaker 2: I don't think this does the US any favors because
- 11:08Speaker 2: you're gonna have uc sorros between the pipesweedo, he's good.
- 11:11Speaker 2: You look up and down. The sweetest lineup they got.
- 11:13Speaker 2: Their back end is frigging great. Yeah, they got a
- 11:16Speaker 2: ton of great forwards up from I mean every guy
- 11:18Speaker 2: on the Swedish team is an NHLR. It's not like
- 11:21Speaker 2: they're pulling some guy out of the Swedish Eleague Nague.
- 11:23Speaker 2: Every guy plays in the National Hockey League.
- 11:25Speaker 3: Well, one of the things I was thinking about. I
- 11:27Speaker 3: mentioned this before the Olympics started. Now I go, look,
- 11:30Speaker 3: all I can tell you is it wouldn't hurt. I've
- 11:33Speaker 3: watched a whole bunch of the AVS players now individually
- 11:37Speaker 3: for their respective countries, look really good on the power play,
- 11:42Speaker 3: look really good. And I'm like, is there anything that
- 11:44Speaker 3: you can take from this bring it back to the
- 11:47Speaker 3: Avs and improve on what they have right now, which
- 11:49Speaker 3: is the worst in the league fifteen point one percentage.
- 11:53Speaker 3: Because I watched Marty Nachos yesterday sitting in the same
- 11:57Speaker 3: spot that McKinnon sits in the AVS power play and
- 12:00Speaker 3: look really damn good doing it really good. Like, can
- 12:04Speaker 3: you take some of that stuff and bring it back
- 12:06Speaker 3: from when the season I start something?
- 12:07Speaker 2: You know what, I guess we'll ask Jerry Bennar one
- 12:09Speaker 2: week from today, because we'll be back at it. In fact,
- 12:12Speaker 2: one week from today, the Apps will be in Utah
- 12:14Speaker 2: getting ready to take on the Mammoth. Coach will be back.
- 12:19Speaker 2: I'm sure that day, right, I just think from it
- 12:21Speaker 2: we can ask him. But on the confidence standpoint, maybe like, okay,
- 12:25Speaker 2: that helps. I don't know.
- 12:26Speaker 3: Okay, you want to put McKinnon on the other side.
- 12:29Speaker 3: I think what I tell him. I all I'm saying
- 12:33Speaker 3: is I don't think anything you do from here and
- 12:35Speaker 3: now is gonna hurt anything.
- 12:37Speaker 4: He emos. I'm glad you're back. So much was made
- 12:41Speaker 4: about the rink size. The rink's fine, the hockey's great
- 12:46Speaker 4: and and fast. What's what's the issue?
- 12:50Speaker 2: It's three point eight feet shorter overall?
- 12:54Speaker 4: You notice anything different?
- 12:56Speaker 2: I guess optically, you know when you're on TV.
- 12:58Speaker 3: No.
- 12:58Speaker 2: But when I look at I guess the old overall view.
- 13:01Speaker 2: It looks just a little bit shorter to me, I
- 13:03Speaker 2: guess it. It just optically doesn't look I just it
- 13:07Speaker 2: feels like there's something off. I can't really tell. Just
- 13:10Speaker 2: feels like there's something off.
- 13:11Speaker 4: Vic And you can recuse yourself from this. This is
- 13:14Speaker 4: just me and Brett. Recuse yourself because this is I'm
- 13:16Speaker 4: gonna speak glowingly of you. Some of these announcers they're
- 13:21Speaker 4: using an Olympics to call these hockey games, are not good. Brett,
- 13:26Speaker 4: I don't know if you noticed. They're not the moje
- 13:28Speaker 4: Oh my god. And I don't know who they are
- 13:31Speaker 4: or if the IOC hires them. I don't know who
- 13:33Speaker 4: hires them. But I'm watching some of these things and
- 13:36Speaker 4: I'm like, where's my man, Moses.
- 13:37Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you, recuse yourself. Mos.
- 13:41Speaker 3: He's right, uh three h three. I mean I would
- 13:44Speaker 3: have done it. I would have done it for free.
- 13:47Speaker 3: There's there's there's a guy we'll talk to, coach coming
- 13:50Speaker 3: up here. And just a little bit they had a
- 13:52Speaker 3: soccer commentator, yeah, doing the game of the day, and
- 13:56Speaker 3: you could tell he's a soccer guy.
- 13:57Speaker 2: Just buy it by the cadence and buy.
- 13:59Speaker 4: He called it a man match.
- 14:00Speaker 2: But that's that's his gig. That's I know, But I'm
- 14:03Speaker 2: it doesn't it doesn't.
- 14:04Speaker 4: Matter, coach, Hockey's not a match.
- 14:07Speaker 3: We'll get to, uh coach in just a second. It
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- 14:44Speaker 3: two five. Let's head out to the Ramas Law Hotline
- 14:47Speaker 3: and welcome in brand new coach of the Rapids, Matt Wells. Matt,
- 14:51Speaker 3: thank you for joining us this morning.
- 14:52Speaker 2: How you doing I'm very good?
- 14:54Speaker 5: Thank you? How are you doing well?
- 14:56Speaker 3: And uh? I first of all, welcome to Denver. A
- 14:59Speaker 3: niche thoughts here on Denver.
- 15:01Speaker 2: What do you think he's been around for a little
- 15:02Speaker 2: bit now? I mean it's like you was hired yesterday. Well,
- 15:06Speaker 2: I mean yeah, a month for a time. Say hello, hey, coach,
- 15:11Speaker 2: good to see you.
- 15:13Speaker 5: How's it going? Yeah?
- 15:14Speaker 2: I know.
- 15:15Speaker 5: It is actually only my third day in Denver.
- 15:17Speaker 6: We had the training camp in Florida, so my third
- 15:21Speaker 6: day here, as you can hear, I already have the
- 15:23Speaker 6: drive throw dry skin, so I forgo and get some
- 15:26Speaker 6: new moisturizers and new lip bomb.
- 15:29Speaker 5: It's been great so far.
- 15:31Speaker 4: It may have, but did it take a lot for
- 15:34Speaker 4: someone to have you move across the world, across the globe?
- 15:37Speaker 4: I mean you were coaching. First of all, let's get
- 15:39Speaker 4: the proper pronunciation from somebody who's from there. It's Tottenham, correct,
- 15:43Speaker 4: Tottenham Hotspurs.
- 15:45Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that's correct.
- 15:47Speaker 4: Yeah. I'm half British, so I've got.
- 15:50Speaker 2: And I should. I should tell you coach that I'm
- 15:52Speaker 2: a Brentford guy, So sorry about that. We still a
- 15:56Speaker 2: we are best players and managers. It's it's it's what
- 15:59Speaker 2: we do with Brentford's a big deal. But it's great
- 16:01Speaker 2: to have your board and we're excited. I mean, you
- 16:03Speaker 2: start less than a week. Here we go, you're off
- 16:06Speaker 2: and running. How excited are you to kind of just
- 16:08Speaker 2: dig in a good going.
- 16:10Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm so excited now. I think the training camp
- 16:14Speaker 5: was intense, but it was.
- 16:15Speaker 6: It was a great period for me because I had
- 16:17Speaker 6: the guys all under one roof at the hotel, so
- 16:20Speaker 6: it was it was twenty four to seven. I'm pretty
- 16:22Speaker 6: intense once I get going, so it was good. The
- 16:25Speaker 6: team shaping up well there. We had our final preseason
- 16:28Speaker 6: friendly the other day against Orlando. We played some really
- 16:31Speaker 6: attractive attack in football, which is how I see this team.
- 16:34Speaker 6: Played with a lot of intensity. So now I'm excited
- 16:36Speaker 6: for the Seattle game.
- 16:37Speaker 4: All right, So, Matt, what will the new identity of
- 16:41Speaker 4: the Colorado Rapids become under your leadership?
- 16:46Speaker 6: Yeah, listen, every time we step on the pitch, we
- 16:49Speaker 6: have to be the dominant team. That's that's that's my
- 16:51Speaker 6: general mantra. Of course, there's a lot of detail that
- 16:54Speaker 6: underpins that, but for me, it's a mentality shift that
- 16:58Speaker 6: we can't go into a sea and satisfied with trying
- 17:01Speaker 6: to make the playoffs, or that can't be the limit
- 17:04Speaker 6: of our goals. We have to be here to win
- 17:06Speaker 6: this whole competition. That starts with every training session, every performance.
- 17:10Speaker 6: So every time we step on the pitch, we'll try
- 17:12Speaker 6: and take control of the ball, We'll press the opponent.
- 17:15Speaker 6: So I'm hoping for the fan base it'll be a
- 17:17Speaker 6: really exciting style of player to watch.
- 17:19Speaker 3: What attracted you about this job in particular, Yeah.
- 17:25Speaker 6: I mean I wanted to change. I was probably for
- 17:28Speaker 6: the last three or four years. I felt ready to
- 17:30Speaker 6: be a head coach I've been. I've been coaching now
- 17:33Speaker 6: at a very high level for seventeen years. So I
- 17:37Speaker 6: loved being an assistant, but there's always frustrations that come
- 17:40Speaker 6: with it because you see, there's no way you're going
- 17:42Speaker 6: to agree with the manager on absolutely everything. So I
- 17:45Speaker 6: have my own opinions, my own sort of ideology around
- 17:48Speaker 6: the game and how it should be played, how the
- 17:50Speaker 6: environment should be. So I was just waiting for the
- 17:53Speaker 6: right opportunity this one, This one came up, and through
- 17:57Speaker 6: the interview process, I loved all the conversations with the.
- 18:00Speaker 5: With the hierarchy here, so it felt like a good fit.
- 18:02Speaker 6: And then crucially, I've got my wife's permission to move
- 18:06Speaker 6: country and so that that's stilled the deal.
- 18:08Speaker 3: Well on top of that, just quick, sorry, Vic, I
- 18:12Speaker 3: know that for guys who become first time head coaches
- 18:15Speaker 3: there's always like some stuff that comes with the job
- 18:18Speaker 3: that they weren't expecting. Have you been have you gotten
- 18:21Speaker 3: some of that? Of Like, now that I'm the head coach,
- 18:23Speaker 3: I have to deal with this and this and this.
- 18:26Speaker 6: I think, listen, only the only shift for me is
- 18:30Speaker 6: this sort of stuff. It's the media side of things
- 18:32Speaker 6: is obviously a lot more intense.
- 18:33Speaker 5: I did.
- 18:34Speaker 6: I did small bits when I was an assistant, but
- 18:36Speaker 6: that was mainly in house stuff at Tottenham, So I'd
- 18:40Speaker 6: say that's that's the only big shift in terms of responsibility.
- 18:44Speaker 6: But the actual job has been the day to day stuff.
- 18:47Speaker 5: I love it.
- 18:47Speaker 6: I'm passionate about coaching. I'm passionate about shaping environments, leadership.
- 18:52Speaker 6: So for that's been a new lease of life. But yeah,
- 18:55Speaker 6: this this stuff's been been the added stuff to my calendar.
- 18:58Speaker 3: Over under five months until you hate it.
- 19:00Speaker 4: Yes, we'll see, man, this is going to be a
- 19:05Speaker 4: vacation for you. Man, you're used to coaching in the
- 19:08Speaker 4: Premier League. You see how the media, how fans operate
- 19:11Speaker 4: over there. It's a different entity. Have you noticed the difference.
- 19:14Speaker 4: I mean, the Colorado Rapids are a reputable outfit in
- 19:17Speaker 4: the league in Colorado, especially in the US where you're
- 19:21Speaker 4: competing with a lot more here, and I'm sure you
- 19:24Speaker 4: know that you have to really embrace the fact that
- 19:27Speaker 4: you need fans, you need to get people watching your team,
- 19:30Speaker 4: because it's not as easy as it is in England.
- 19:34Speaker 6: Yeah, listen, that's one of my biggest intentions and goals
- 19:37Speaker 6: here is I want to create something that's so exciting
- 19:39Speaker 6: and so appeding, so attractive that everyone wants to come
- 19:43Speaker 6: and watch us. I said to the players on day one,
- 19:46Speaker 6: I want every team to hate playing against us, and
- 19:48Speaker 6: I want every fan in the whole of the MLS.
- 19:51Speaker 6: I want us to be the second favorite team if
- 19:54Speaker 6: we're on the TV, if we're on Apple TV, they
- 19:57Speaker 6: put it on. I can't think another reason to get
- 20:00Speaker 6: out of bed just to create something ordinary. So I
- 20:03Speaker 6: want to create something special here, dynamics, something that gets
- 20:06Speaker 6: the whole league talking Orlando is a good step. The
- 20:09Speaker 6: other day already had a lot of people reach out
- 20:11Speaker 6: to me surprised and shocked at both the score line
- 20:14Speaker 6: but mainly Iraq elements and the way they're The way
- 20:17Speaker 6: the team played was very impressive at this early stage, Ronnie,
- 20:21Speaker 6: I've only been here four weeks, so it's going to
- 20:23Speaker 6: take time. But yeah, I definitely want there to be
- 20:26Speaker 6: a buzz around us, and hopefully we can. We can
- 20:29Speaker 6: sell this stadium out more often than not and get
- 20:31Speaker 6: people watching and enjoying the football they see.
- 20:33Speaker 2: Coach, you know is about it here pretty soon. But
- 20:36Speaker 2: you're basically drinking through a fire hose right now. Back
- 20:39Speaker 2: in Denver for three days and then you're gonna go
- 20:41Speaker 2: to Seattle and it's off and running. But I guess,
- 20:44Speaker 2: how do you now look at the rest of the
- 20:47Speaker 2: league and say, Okay, this is what we're up against.
- 20:49Speaker 2: I mean, scouting everything. I know that you have assistance,
- 20:51Speaker 2: I know you have people to help you out with
- 20:52Speaker 2: all of that, but you're going into this not even
- 20:54Speaker 2: knowing when once you get off the bus, Okay, where's
- 20:57Speaker 2: our you know, where do we go? All that kind
- 20:59Speaker 2: of thing. I mean, it's it's kind of a big
- 21:01Speaker 2: deal for you, But how do you adapt to that
- 21:02Speaker 2: or how are you anticipating adapting to that?
- 21:06Speaker 6: Yeah, that was a that was That was a big
- 21:08Speaker 6: part of me coming here as making sure that I
- 21:10Speaker 6: had MLS experience and expertise on my staff. So I
- 21:15Speaker 6: made sure that we kept Chris Sharp and Elliott Pross
- 21:18Speaker 6: to two fantastic coaches and even better people. So I'll
- 21:23Speaker 6: be honest, I wouldn't have come here without without that,
- 21:26Speaker 6: Because as much research as you can do, the amount
- 21:29Speaker 6: of games I watched from last season was was crazy, really,
- 21:33Speaker 6: but you still can't get a feel for the intangibles
- 21:36Speaker 6: of the league, and only someone with the experience of
- 21:39Speaker 6: a Chris Sharp or an Elliott can give me that insights.
- 21:42Speaker 5: That's been very, very useful.
- 21:43Speaker 6: Also brought two guys over from the Premier League who
- 21:46Speaker 6: were fantastic at their jobs, but they also need up
- 21:49Speaker 6: skidding in terms of the landscape that we're facing over here.
- 21:52Speaker 6: So those guys have been great for me. But outside
- 21:55Speaker 6: of that, there's there's no substitute for me. Just spending
- 21:57Speaker 6: hours and hours on this laptop watching game, studying the opponents,
- 22:00Speaker 6: coming up with game plans. That side of it doesn't change.
- 22:03Speaker 6: That's that's the same job as it is in England
- 22:05Speaker 6: and when I was in the Premier League or we
- 22:07Speaker 6: were trying to win the Europa League. I'm still watching
- 22:10Speaker 6: European teams that I don't know that well and then
- 22:12Speaker 6: having to watch their games in their home league and
- 22:15Speaker 6: study and work out the tactics. So that side of
- 22:18Speaker 6: it is the same. But definitely having guys here with
- 22:21Speaker 6: such experience helps.
- 22:23Speaker 4: I have one quick, last one, Brett, and I love this.
- 22:25Speaker 4: You're quoted as saying win everything except the fair Play Award,
- 22:29Speaker 4: and I love that mentality.
- 22:31Speaker 5: Coach.
- 22:31Speaker 4: I'm not gonna lie to you. You know you don't
- 22:33Speaker 4: have to be nice.
- 22:34Speaker 2: I mean you win.
- 22:35Speaker 4: You're here to compete. Is that where you're trying to
- 22:37Speaker 4: get across. Here. We're on the pitch to win, and
- 22:40Speaker 4: if that means you gotta win ugly win. I'm not
- 22:42Speaker 4: saying you have to play dirty, but you don't have
- 22:44Speaker 4: to be a nice guy to win in this league.
- 22:48Speaker 6: Yeah. One, I didn't actually realize I said that in public,
- 22:51Speaker 6: but I said it a few times to the players privately,
- 22:54Speaker 6: for sure, and I stand by that. I think my
- 22:58Speaker 6: frustrations early in this pre season we were the first
- 23:01Speaker 6: few friendlies we played were exactly that. I have to
- 23:05Speaker 6: stop calling it that because we were far too friendly
- 23:08Speaker 6: on the pitch we played.
- 23:09Speaker 5: We played some nice football.
- 23:11Speaker 6: But if you're soft against the ball, and you're soft
- 23:14Speaker 6: in the jewels and you're soft on the second balls,
- 23:16Speaker 6: that's a recipe for everyone wanting to watch us. But
- 23:19Speaker 6: we lose every week and that's not why I'm here
- 23:21Speaker 6: and that's not what we're going to create. So it's
- 23:23Speaker 6: making sure we do have a nastiness about us. We
- 23:25Speaker 6: do have an edge, and it's tough because we're trying
- 23:28Speaker 6: to combine this beautiful style of play, which hopefully you
- 23:32Speaker 6: guys will see against the atoll where we're trying to
- 23:34Speaker 6: dominate the ball and we're always building out from the
- 23:36Speaker 6: back and we're really controlling the games, and there's a
- 23:39Speaker 6: lot of short passes, but then the second we lose
- 23:42Speaker 6: the ball almost I want to go from that ice
- 23:44Speaker 6: call to the fire. And that's the bit the early
- 23:47Speaker 6: in preseason we were lacking. But thankfully over the last
- 23:50Speaker 6: couple of games it's still not at the level of
- 23:53Speaker 6: edginess and nastiness and aggression that I want, but we're
- 23:56Speaker 6: definitely getting there, and recruitment will help that as well,
- 23:59Speaker 6: so we'll get that.
- 24:01Speaker 3: Brand new head coach of the Rapids, Matt Wells joining us.
- 24:04Speaker 4: Uh.
- 24:04Speaker 3: First of all, welcome to Denver. Second of all, good
- 24:06Speaker 3: luck this season. Appreciate the time.
- 24:08Speaker 5: Thank you, Matt, Appreciate you guys. Thank you very much.
- 24:11Speaker 3: All right, coach, head coach of the Rapids, Matt well
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- 24:19Speaker 4: I love that. You know, if he's telling us that,
- 24:20Speaker 4: imagine what he's telling his players when they're playing. Hey man,
- 24:23Speaker 4: quit messing around. Let's go. Yeah, let's go all right,
- 24:26Speaker 4: you're not here to make friends. We're not here to
- 24:28Speaker 4: exchange jerseys after a game, right, exchange kits as they
- 24:32Speaker 4: call them. By the way, Is today the day that
- 24:34Speaker 4: the Rapids unveiled their new kit? Is it later this week?
- 24:38Speaker 3: I don't know if it's today, but it's soon. Could be.
- 24:42Speaker 3: I'll try and get a check on that. But yeah,
- 24:45Speaker 3: brand new head coach of the Rapids, Matt Wells joining
- 24:47Speaker 3: us now and.
- 24:48Speaker 4: The Rapids listen, let's be fourth right. They've gone through
- 24:52Speaker 4: coaches like I go through socks.
- 24:53Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been a lot.
- 24:55Speaker 4: They need someone who's going to establish something, and the
- 25:00Speaker 4: fan base needs somebody here that's gonna set the table
- 25:03Speaker 4: for years to come, not one or two years at
- 25:05Speaker 4: a time. So let's hope this guy's the guy. How
- 25:08Speaker 4: many coaches we had on this show.
- 25:10Speaker 2: Well there was.
- 25:11Speaker 3: I can't remember the guy's name. When I first got here,
- 25:15Speaker 3: it was right before Robin, because Robin was here for
- 25:17Speaker 3: what Robin Fraser was four years? Was it?
- 25:20Speaker 4: I think I don't remember the timeline.
- 25:23Speaker 3: But since I've been here, this is the fourth coach
- 25:26Speaker 3: in seven years.
- 25:27Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean it's they've been going on. I
- 25:28Speaker 2: guess see I was Connor Casey was the interim.
- 25:32Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if you counted, but anyway, good
- 25:36Speaker 3: luck to the Rapids this year as they get going
- 25:38Speaker 3: soon against Seattle. Now we can talk about this in
- 25:41Speaker 3: more detail, but Vic watched the All Star stuff really
- 25:48Speaker 3: disappointed by Jamal in the three point contest. That sucked
- 25:52Speaker 3: because it just didn't feel like he had a shot
- 25:55Speaker 3: to the actual game.
- 25:57Speaker 4: By the way, Jamal during his practice couldn't miss. So
- 26:02Speaker 4: he went. Yeah, he went there earlier as they all do,
- 26:07Speaker 4: because he wanted to try taking the ball off the racks.
- 26:10Speaker 2: Yeah, could not miss.
- 26:12Speaker 4: Couldn't miss. And I'm thinking, oh my god, it's kind
- 26:16Speaker 4: might win it. But it changes when you're in that arena. Sure,
- 26:20Speaker 4: and there's no one in the stands. That's to me
- 26:22Speaker 4: was it was unreal. Guys. I've been to a lot
- 26:25Speaker 4: of these All Star games. Most no one was there
- 26:29Speaker 4: on the Saturday they have sides.
- 26:33Speaker 3: Somebody panned to the crowd. There was so many empty seats.
- 26:37Speaker 4: You hold the All Star Game in the afternoon in LA.
- 26:40Speaker 4: It's tough enough getting La people to go to games
- 26:43Speaker 4: at night. Now if you hold something at two in
- 26:45Speaker 4: the afternoon, because it started around one or two LA time.
- 26:49Speaker 4: Good luck with that.
- 26:51Speaker 3: Yeah. Here's the other thing. Was the All Star Game
- 26:57Speaker 3: itself better than it was before?
- 26:59Speaker 2: Yeah? Because the worst.
- 27:01Speaker 3: Thing you could imagine anything other than that is going
- 27:04Speaker 3: to be better. Was it more competitive?
- 27:06Speaker 4: Yes?
- 27:09Speaker 2: Did it feel like something I had to watch?
- 27:12Speaker 4: Still?
- 27:13Speaker 2: Not really? I mean it was better there was.
- 27:16Speaker 3: It only worked, to be honest, because some of the
- 27:18Speaker 3: younger guys brought it from the very beginning, like Wemby
- 27:20Speaker 3: was out there to play.
- 27:21Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 27:22Speaker 4: Can we be real about this, You might have a
- 27:24Speaker 4: different take on the All Star Game if our guy
- 27:28Speaker 4: really wanted to play.
- 27:29Speaker 2: Jokis did not care.
- 27:30Speaker 4: Still, and you know that's just the way it is.
- 27:33Speaker 4: I asked him afterwards, I said, what'd you think? He goes, Well,
- 27:36Speaker 4: our team was better when I wasn't in the game.
- 27:38Speaker 4: Just not for him. Well, also just not for him.
- 27:41Speaker 4: It's just not the You cannot manufacture competition and desperation
- 27:47Speaker 4: and all that stuff that goes into it. And I
- 27:50Speaker 4: don't care what you do to this game. I don't
- 27:52Speaker 4: think you're going to get him to have that same
- 27:53Speaker 4: level of intensities he has in a regular NBA game.
- 27:56Speaker 3: Well, he's one of the guys that I said, like,
- 28:00Speaker 3: he's not going to care about the US versus the world.
- 28:03Speaker 3: He cares about Serbia. That's what he cares about. And
- 28:06Speaker 3: I don't know, maybe that US versus World thing gave
- 28:11Speaker 3: it some sort of extra juice.
- 28:12Speaker 2: I really just think it was a few.
- 28:15Speaker 3: Guys decided they were gonna go one hundred percent, and
- 28:17Speaker 3: so you have two options. You match the intensity that
- 28:19Speaker 3: those guys are bringing, or you sit down on the bench.
- 28:22Speaker 3: And Yoga said, not for me, see you later. I'm
- 28:24Speaker 3: sitting down like Jamal tried. Jamal just wasn't very good.
- 28:28Speaker 3: He was okay in the second game, I suppose, but.
- 28:30Speaker 4: Wemby was out for blood. Yes, Wemby's like, I'm gonna
- 28:33Speaker 4: block every shot, I'm gonna make every shot, and I
- 28:36Speaker 4: want to win every game. Did you see his reaction Most,
- 28:38Speaker 4: I don't know if you watched when they lost that
- 28:40Speaker 4: first game to the Young Buck Americans and the three
- 28:43Speaker 4: ball went down. Did you see how mad Wemby was
- 28:46Speaker 4: after that? Like I did mad band?
- 28:49Speaker 2: No? I did not.
- 28:50Speaker 3: Okay, Well, Most, I'm not going he was in Spain.
- 28:57Speaker 2: No home, by the way, my buddy's got a broken
- 29:02Speaker 2: or unlocked firestick to watch anything I want across the globe.
- 29:06Speaker 2: It's pretty awesome.
- 29:07Speaker 4: You took it with you.
- 29:08Speaker 2: No, no, he's got it there in Spain.
- 29:10Speaker 4: An unlocked firestick. How long do those I don't know.
- 29:15Speaker 2: They the companies catch up and then you got to
- 29:17Speaker 2: get it unlocked. They I don't know.
- 29:18Speaker 4: How are you advocating piracy? I mean, our salaries are.
- 29:22Speaker 2: Based on Spain. It's it's another I don't so.
- 29:24Speaker 4: What you're doing is you're coming on these airwaves and
- 29:27Speaker 4: telling everybody to forego.
- 29:29Speaker 3: With him international water. It doesn't count a jackwagon in Spain.
- 29:33Speaker 3: Can't buy altitude anyway, all right, get the app.
- 29:37Speaker 4: By the way, they give me one of those fire sticks.
- 29:39Speaker 2: When you add he can, he can. He's got some.
- 29:42Speaker 2: He's got some ex pat englishman who breaks fire sticks
- 29:45Speaker 2: in Spain. It doesn't matter anyway. The point is he
- 29:48Speaker 2: can watch any abs and nuggets he wants. But he's
- 29:50Speaker 2: got altitude right there in Spain. Here's the thing. It's crazy.
- 29:54Speaker 2: I don't know how you do it, but he's got it.
- 29:56Speaker 2: Can I stop for a second, please? On the airplane home,
- 30:01Speaker 2: I made a commitment to myself and to this show
- 30:05Speaker 2: and to the listeners that I'm not going to blow
- 30:08Speaker 2: smoke up your tail at all, not that I was before.
- 30:11Speaker 2: I'm just not going to do it.
- 30:12Speaker 4: Oh really, so last decade, you've been so so you
- 30:15Speaker 4: so this whole thing about your quarterback.
- 30:19Speaker 2: I'll tell you.
- 30:19Speaker 3: I'll tell you what I'll I'll i'll, I'll acknowledge something like.
- 30:24Speaker 2: No, Vic, I didn't see it. I won't expand on
- 30:27Speaker 2: it because you probably don't want me to expand on it.
- 30:29Speaker 2: And if you do, then I will, but otherwise I won't.
- 30:31Speaker 2: I won't to expand on it. But no, Vic, I
- 30:33Speaker 2: did not see Wemby's reaction. And you know why I
- 30:35Speaker 2: didn't see Wemby's reaction because I don't give a rats
- 30:37Speaker 2: ass good.
- 30:38Speaker 4: No, No, I appreciate that.
- 30:39Speaker 3: I appreciate it, and I don't care if you think
- 30:41Speaker 3: that it's your job to watch the NBA All Star weekend,
- 30:44Speaker 3: No it's not.
- 30:45Speaker 2: I was there.
- 30:46Speaker 3: It's not my job to watch crap basketball and took
- 30:48Speaker 3: a fight time in Los Angeles at the damn in
- 30:52Speaker 3: normal don't crap.
- 30:53Speaker 2: I'm not doing it.
- 30:54Speaker 4: Most I made it. I made it pretty clear.
- 30:56Speaker 2: I was there much so much.
- 30:59Speaker 4: I was there and I was bored. I was there
- 31:01Speaker 4: and I was bored. But it's no different than there's.
- 31:04Speaker 2: Literally nothing that the NBA could do to get me
- 31:06Speaker 2: to watch the All Star weekend?
- 31:07Speaker 4: What about the NHL?
- 31:08Speaker 2: I got about the NHL Star they stop?
- 31:10Speaker 3: Right?
- 31:11Speaker 4: Wait wait wait what about the NHL?
- 31:13Speaker 3: Before we go? Yeah, what about the NHL? Yeah, I
- 31:17Speaker 3: got no, no, no, hang on, I got something. I came
- 31:20Speaker 3: up with an idea myself and Chris and the the appetizer.
- 31:23Speaker 2: I gotta.
- 31:24Speaker 3: I got a way I would get you to watch.
- 31:27Speaker 3: I'll explain it in a minute, but I got away.
- 31:29Speaker 4: But go ahead, Vic, good, what about the NHL All
- 31:31Speaker 4: Star Game? Are you are watching every moment of that game?
- 31:35Speaker 2: No, not all of it? A little bit? Yeah, it
- 31:37Speaker 2: just doesn't.
- 31:38Speaker 4: Would just say it's the same thing, same product, Oh.
- 31:41Speaker 2: Vick, I don't know if I didn't watch the Okay,
- 31:44Speaker 2: it's worse.
- 31:46Speaker 4: And they're all in the same. They're all the same.
- 31:48Speaker 4: They don't mean anything. You can't you can't dress them up.
- 31:51Speaker 4: You can't dress them up. Nobody cares. I couldn't agree.
- 31:54Speaker 4: I couldn't.
- 31:55Speaker 2: I'm just trying to think how much I could care less,
- 32:00Speaker 2: and the answer is none. I couldn't care less. I
- 32:05Speaker 2: didn't watch a second of it. I did see the
- 32:08Speaker 2: thing on online, Jamal doing the three points and a
- 32:10Speaker 2: lot of clangs. I'm like, well, that's a bummer. At
- 32:12Speaker 2: least he was there, Okay. I saw Joker played five minutes.
- 32:15Speaker 2: I was hoping his leg didn't get blown off. Now
- 32:17Speaker 2: they just took him out because he's It's just management, right,
- 32:21Speaker 2: his management. It just it is completely unappealing to me.
- 32:25Speaker 2: I don't care what format they come up with. I
- 32:27Speaker 2: don't care if they have live animals, I don't, I don't.
- 32:30Speaker 2: It doesn't I don't care if they're playing on llamas,
- 32:32Speaker 2: Like every NBA player's got a lama and they got
- 32:34Speaker 2: a dunk on a lama, I don't. I don't care.
- 32:37Speaker 2: That would be that would be musterful. I just don't care.
- 32:39Speaker 4: See, I think you're skewed a bit because you witness
- 32:42Speaker 4: the greatest All Star break ever last year with the
- 32:45Speaker 4: four Nations. That was the greatest event we've seen. It
- 32:48Speaker 4: was actual competitive hockey. It comes with the price. Obviously,
- 32:51Speaker 4: guys can get injured, but that's that's the pinnacle of
- 32:56Speaker 4: mid season exhibition, right at the pinnacle. Yeah, and when
- 32:59Speaker 4: you go there, anything else pales in comparison.
- 33:03Speaker 2: Uh.
- 33:03Speaker 3: One last reminder of your key word for this hour
- 33:06Speaker 3: is Francis so text that in your first and last
- 33:08Speaker 3: name to three oho three five O four nine two
- 33:10Speaker 3: five gets you a chance to go to the building
- 33:13Speaker 3: for Colorado's return to the ice against Minnesota next Thursday. Now,
- 33:17Speaker 3: moj I got an idea. I can get you a watch.
- 33:22Speaker 2: No you can't. No, I can't, Brett.
- 33:24Speaker 3: I promise you. Look, I I promise you.
- 33:27Speaker 2: Alls is gone.
- 33:29Speaker 3: I promise all the history, all the history are all
- 33:31Speaker 3: the topless in the middle of the game.
- 33:34Speaker 2: No, No, all right, all the history onics, all of
- 33:38Speaker 2: the all of the fun times and the tickle fights. Okay, God,
- 33:41Speaker 2: it's all just done.
- 33:43Speaker 3: We'll get to it in just a second. Stick around,
- 33:45Speaker 3: all right, Listen to me. Listen to me, most put
- 33:47Speaker 3: those put those damn headphones on.
- 33:49Speaker 2: You.
- 33:49Speaker 3: Listen to me.
- 33:50Speaker 2: Good.
- 33:52Speaker 3: I know exactly how to watch, because I gotta be honest,
- 33:55Speaker 3: I didn't tune in for a second of that dunk contest,
- 33:57Speaker 3: and I'm disappointed in myself. If I had known a
- 34:03Speaker 3: man would concuss himself trying to dunk, then I would
- 34:06Speaker 3: be all in on this thing. If you if you're
- 34:08Speaker 3: gonna give me no name guys in the dunk contest.
- 34:11Speaker 3: I don't even know this guy's name, the guy who
- 34:13Speaker 3: fell on his head.
- 34:15Speaker 4: Oh my god, Jason Richardson.
- 34:17Speaker 3: Sure if if you're gonna give me no namers, I
- 34:21Speaker 3: got a great idea.
- 34:22Speaker 4: That's Jason Richardson's son. No, Yeah, remember Jason Richardson.
- 34:29Speaker 2: Richardson could who does he play for?
- 34:33Speaker 4: I think Orlando?
- 34:34Speaker 2: You think Orlando. There's a mother f there's a guy
- 34:38Speaker 2: in the dunk contest. I think he plays I think
- 34:40Speaker 2: he's in the league. Listen, it's a joke. Jo.
- 34:44Speaker 4: You know Jason lives here in Denver. Hang listening to this.
- 34:46Speaker 2: Show, Judson, I'm just saying, Oh, Jason was amazing.
- 34:51Speaker 3: Here's what I want if you're gonna give me guys
- 34:55Speaker 3: I don't recognize in the dunk contest. I needed to
- 34:59Speaker 3: be some evil caneve stuff. I need there to be
- 35:01Speaker 3: guys shot out of cannons. I need there to be
- 35:05Speaker 3: uh knives pointed up at the floor underneath the hoop.
- 35:08Speaker 3: I want some steaks on the line. I want somebody
- 35:11Speaker 3: to go up for a dunk. You're like, if you
- 35:12Speaker 3: mess this up, you're gonna hurt yourself if you start
- 35:16Speaker 3: doing a jackass version of the dunk contest, because that's
- 35:20Speaker 3: the only thing that's gonna get me. Now, I watched
- 35:22Speaker 3: Jackson Hayes do a dunk that we've seen eight hundred
- 35:26Speaker 3: times in the middle of basketball games, and his name
- 35:29Speaker 3: was Jackson Hayes. It can't happen anymore, not taking it. Nope,
- 35:34Speaker 3: I need to have some some tigers on the floor
- 35:37Speaker 3: or something.
- 35:37Speaker 2: You know, what's interesting is that about?
- 35:41Speaker 3: What about a viper pit most under the hoop?
- 35:44Speaker 2: That still wouldn't get me? Well, I mean if you
- 35:46Speaker 2: if you land in the pit, you get attacked by cobras.
- 35:49Speaker 2: Yeah like that. Yeah, yeah, that still wouldn't get me.
- 35:52Speaker 2: By the way, Jackson Hayes plays for the Lakers, did
- 35:54Speaker 2: you know that?
- 35:54Speaker 4: I did not know. Yeah, we know that that That
- 35:57Speaker 4: dunk was so bad. I think Chris'll could pull it off.
- 36:01Speaker 3: Well, somebody put somebody put highlights of Kareem during the
- 36:04Speaker 3: Dunk Contest, and honestly, it was super lame dunks.
- 36:07Speaker 2: But it's Kareem, so it's different. It's like, at least
- 36:09Speaker 2: it's a big name guy.
- 36:11Speaker 4: Dude. The very first Dunk Contest in nineteen seventy six
- 36:13Speaker 4: was held here in Denver. The ABA held the All
- 36:16Speaker 4: Star Game and the reason they did the dunk contest
- 36:18Speaker 4: at half? Do you know why they did it? Because
- 36:20Speaker 4: the league could not afford halftime entertainment. Red Panda was
- 36:25Speaker 4: too expensive, so they said, what are we gonna do? Yeah,
- 36:28Speaker 4: let's have these guys dunk.
- 36:29Speaker 2: Baby races cost too much money. And the dunk story
- 36:34Speaker 2: doctor race, Yeah, doctor j launches from the free throw
- 36:37Speaker 2: line of the rest is history.
- 36:39Speaker 4: And back then artist Gilmore attempted a dunk like his
- 36:42Speaker 4: Dunk contest and he was told I go up there
- 36:44Speaker 4: and dunked. He's like, well, what do I do?
- 36:45Speaker 2: But everybody says that thing's dead? And I'm like, do
- 36:47Speaker 2: you guys not remember?
- 36:48Speaker 3: Like it's getting farther and farther away, but do you
- 36:50Speaker 3: not remember Aaron Gordon and Zach Levine? That was amazing.
- 36:53Speaker 4: But that's the reason why guys like Aaron Gordon won't
- 36:55Speaker 4: do it again because he got robbed.
- 36:58Speaker 3: Look, but it was entertained mint. Do they really care
- 37:03Speaker 3: that much if they win or lose? Like Jamal was,
- 37:05Speaker 3: Let's be honest, pretty embarrassing to splay at the three
- 37:07Speaker 3: point contest. I think you should do it again next
- 37:09Speaker 3: year if he gets invited.
- 37:10Speaker 2: Who cares? Look, man, there was a time when I
- 37:15Speaker 2: would say this is going away. This, this just doesn't
- 37:19Speaker 2: the mac McClung crap, right, guys, not even in the league,
- 37:22Speaker 2: and he's winning the dunk contest. I was done, and
- 37:25Speaker 2: I've been saying this for going on a decade. The
- 37:28Speaker 2: dunk contest to me is like Sears, VIC. Do you
- 37:33Speaker 2: remember Montgomery Ward.
- 37:35Speaker 4: Of course, there's the Montgomery Ward at Lakeside Maul and
- 37:37Speaker 4: my brother worked there.
- 37:38Speaker 2: You kid me, Sears Montgomery Ward. You know brands like that.
- 37:45Speaker 3: J C.
- 37:45Speaker 2: Penny Jac Penny and I would say this, they're out
- 37:49Speaker 2: of business. They just don't know it yet. Does that
- 37:54Speaker 2: make sense? It's a good example of one of those
- 37:56Speaker 2: Do you see what you see what I'm saying? Yeah,
- 37:58Speaker 2: the NBA Dunk Contest is out of business. They just
- 38:02Speaker 2: don't know it yet. That's That's essentially what it is. VIC.
- 38:06Speaker 2: Nobody cares, nobody watches, nobody knows. Any bed would.
- 38:10Speaker 4: Watch if they put stars in it. I would you watched,
- 38:13Speaker 4: You'd watch if they had the right people in it.
- 38:16Speaker 2: Right people, There's only so many dugs you can do
- 38:20Speaker 2: it doesn't matter time.
- 38:23Speaker 3: Derby's been the same thing for fifty years.
- 38:26Speaker 2: I watched once Dwight Howard wore a cape. It was over.
- 38:30Speaker 3: Did you watch in the home run Derby most anything
- 38:33Speaker 3: different than what you've seen before?
- 38:34Speaker 4: Stubborn and you're being dumb. Okay, stubborn and dumb are
- 38:38Speaker 4: not a good combination. If I told you that this
- 38:41Speaker 4: dunk contest had I don't care forty one year old
- 38:44Speaker 4: Lebron James in it, you'd watch.
- 38:48Speaker 3: You would you know it? You wouldn't you know it?
- 38:52Speaker 4: If if they brought Vince Carter out of retirement.
- 38:55Speaker 2: You'd watch, get a little crazy.
- 38:58Speaker 4: If Aaron Gordon not have four to six weeks reevaluation,
- 39:02Speaker 4: you'd watch.
- 39:03Speaker 3: Can I bring something else up that blew my mind
- 39:06Speaker 3: over the weekend? Please saw some video out of spring training.
- 39:12Speaker 3: Guy in the cage for the Rocks. I said, who
- 39:15Speaker 3: the hell is this? Ronnie Coleman, Arnold Schwarzenegger looking guy
- 39:21Speaker 3: hitting baseballs?
- 39:22Speaker 4: Can you talking about Zach Veen?
- 39:25Speaker 2: What happened there?
- 39:26Speaker 4: He he's Here's what he said. He went full mosure.
- 39:30Speaker 3: He gained forty three pounds of muscle, and he attributed
- 39:36Speaker 3: that to getting sober that's what he said. I have
- 39:42Speaker 3: a feeling like, look, I'm not alleging anything that much
- 39:46Speaker 3: of a body transformation looks like would you pee neon colors?
- 39:52Speaker 2: Cause that that doesn't look normal.
- 39:54Speaker 3: Have you seen him, mos, I know you're out like
- 39:57Speaker 3: you were not in the country.
- 39:59Speaker 2: Have you seen what Zach Vine looks like?
- 40:01Speaker 4: Now?
- 40:01Speaker 2: No, I have not Google it and give me your
- 40:04Speaker 2: first reaction. Okay, to do with that?
- 40:09Speaker 3: Well, here's the thing. I'm always a fan of guys
- 40:15Speaker 3: bulking up because I love nineteen ninety eight. I love
- 40:19Speaker 3: just ripping the ball over the park.
- 40:23Speaker 2: I hope he can do that.
- 40:24Speaker 3: The big thing with Zach Vine is I feel like
- 40:26Speaker 3: every time the Rockies have a prospect that they really like,
- 40:28Speaker 3: like it was Brendan Rodgers, and I know he dealt
- 40:30Speaker 3: with injuries, they never really developed into that. I hope
- 40:32Speaker 3: he does that. I really do. But you put on
- 40:37Speaker 3: forty three pounds. I want to see that ball over
- 40:38Speaker 3: the fence a whole lot this year. That's what I want.
- 40:41Speaker 3: That's what I want you to do with that, vic.
- 40:42Speaker 3: I want you to put that body that he's got
- 40:46Speaker 3: into some oomph party deck style.
- 40:48Speaker 4: That's not even the story of Rocky Spring Training. The
- 40:51Speaker 4: story of Rocky Spring Trains crazy, right, It's not Zach Vine.
- 40:54Speaker 4: The story is they got a guy who showed up
- 40:59Speaker 4: and they owe him one hundred and eighty two million
- 41:01Speaker 4: dollars and he says it hurts when he walks, let
- 41:05Speaker 4: alone when he bats and plays. So he can't play.
- 41:09Speaker 4: He's already on the ILDL whatever they call it now,
- 41:12Speaker 4: says it feels like he's being electrocuted every time he
- 41:15Speaker 4: takes a step. What do you do with Chris Bryant Man.
- 41:19Speaker 3: I don't think that's a story because it's the same story.
- 41:21Speaker 2: It's been for three straight.
- 41:22Speaker 4: Years, but it continues to be. You would think after
- 41:25Speaker 4: a while, what what's the end game here? So next
- 41:29Speaker 4: year it's the same story that you have to Can
- 41:31Speaker 4: they not come up with a settlement? Clearly he can't
- 41:35Speaker 4: play baseball anymore? And I feel for him. Back k
- 41:38Speaker 4: injuries are awful. It's the worst mos. What do you do?
- 41:44Speaker 3: I don't think there is a settlement. I don't think
- 41:46Speaker 3: the MLB has this stuff. I don't think there's a
- 41:47Speaker 3: protection for the team for an injury.
- 41:49Speaker 4: Isn't there an insurance clause?
- 41:52Speaker 3: Don't you think that would have happened with guys like
- 41:54Speaker 3: Rendon already if there was, Like, I think, this is
- 41:58Speaker 3: just this is part of the infinite power that the
- 42:02Speaker 3: MLBPA has.
- 42:03Speaker 2: Has any league had more players steal more money from
- 42:08Speaker 2: teams in the league than MLB. No, I'm trying to
- 42:13Speaker 2: think of Well.
- 42:14Speaker 3: Basketball's got a few of them, like Ben Simmons, been
- 42:16Speaker 3: doing that for a long time.
- 42:17Speaker 2: John Morant might be one of those now.
- 42:19Speaker 4: Yeah, but they just basketball does it all the time.
- 42:23Speaker 4: They have a settlement, they buy them out in basketball,
- 42:26Speaker 4: they buy out these guys all the time. Hell, they
- 42:28Speaker 4: bought out Dame Lillard in Milwaukee. They didn't blink an eye.
- 42:34Speaker 3: They didn't buy out Ben Simmons. I feel like if
- 42:37Speaker 3: I continue all that's an injury thing. I feel like
- 42:40Speaker 3: I can if I continue on this path. And here
- 42:42Speaker 3: we are almost to the top of the hour. First
- 42:44Speaker 3: hour back, it's.
- 42:47Speaker 2: Just about complete.
- 42:49Speaker 3: I feel like I'm in a real negative headspace and
- 42:52Speaker 3: I feel like Vic.
- 42:52Speaker 2: Got me there.
- 42:53Speaker 4: What did I do? I like your hair?
- 42:56Speaker 2: I hate it, by the way, I got it cut
- 42:58Speaker 2: before I left, and I might regularly wait, wait, wait,
- 43:00Speaker 2: have you seen Vic's hair? Yeah? Look, it's a joke. Yeah,
- 43:05Speaker 2: it's a joke, an absolutely ridiculous joke. Spee you.
- 43:11Speaker 4: It is me.
- 43:12Speaker 2: It's not you.
- 43:13Speaker 4: What are you talking about? This is me?
- 43:15Speaker 2: What I look.
- 43:16Speaker 4: This is I'm gonna tell I'm gonna go here. I'm
- 43:19Speaker 4: gonna go here. I'm gonna I'm gonna use this card
- 43:20Speaker 4: and I'm gonna do it because you're cancer stole my
- 43:23Speaker 4: beautiful hair and it turned it gray overnight. So I'm
- 43:26Speaker 4: stealing it right back. And if you have a problem
- 43:29Speaker 4: with that, blame cancer. Now what are you gonna say?
- 43:32Speaker 4: He just dropped because it's the truth.
- 43:34Speaker 2: He just dropped up my mom's dead card on you.
- 43:37Speaker 4: Exactly right. I had beautiful, luscious brown hair before twenty nineteen.
- 43:44Speaker 4: Overnight it went gray. I'm taking it back.
- 43:46Speaker 2: I'm just saying, you ride, you ride with what God
- 43:49Speaker 2: gave you. That's what I'm saying.
- 43:50Speaker 3: You know, Vick, you can blame it on that or
- 43:52Speaker 3: I got here in twenty nineteen.
- 43:54Speaker 2: That's good. That's a good look man.
- 43:59Speaker 3: By the way, Simmons was bought out in February of
- 44:02Speaker 3: twenty twenty five by the Nets. They bought out forty
- 44:05Speaker 3: million dollars of his salary. He gave back one point
- 44:08Speaker 3: one million if you call that a buy out. So
- 44:11Speaker 3: that happens in basketball all the time. They look up
- 44:14Speaker 3: Damian Lillard, but that's for guys who want to leave,
- 44:17Speaker 3: not for guys who are hurt and can't play.
- 44:19Speaker 4: Well, Damian Lillard was hurting. He couldn't blame Milwaukee. They
- 44:21Speaker 4: bought him out.
- 44:22Speaker 2: I don't want to be negative, but I find so
- 44:25Speaker 2: many things. It just as a joke and no offense
- 44:29Speaker 2: to Chris Bryant, but this is what are we doing?
- 44:32Speaker 2: This is it's it's ridiculous, the whole he's and he
- 44:36Speaker 2: says he's not going to retire.
- 44:39Speaker 4: Okay, well, what would you do most?
- 44:40Speaker 2: Well, I don't know.
- 44:41Speaker 3: The guy can't walk and he can't most most you've
- 44:44Speaker 3: got you know what I'll tell you. I tell you
- 44:46Speaker 3: what I do, Vic. I ride airplanes and eat steak
- 44:49Speaker 3: for the the next nine months. That's what I do, right, airplanes,
- 44:53Speaker 3: eat steak, and sleeping hotels.
- 44:55Speaker 4: You got it?
- 44:57Speaker 2: Oh my stirrups A. I guess that's what I do.
- 45:02Speaker 4: So are you being facetious or are you being serious?
- 45:04Speaker 2: I'm being serious. I'd ride it out, Vic, with back
- 45:07Speaker 2: pain and can't play the game. But you know what,
- 45:09Speaker 2: I don't want to give.
- 45:10Speaker 4: Up that bread, so would I. Admission is the first step.
- 45:14Speaker 2: Uh huh.
- 45:14Speaker 4: One hundred and eighty two million dollars. You show up,
- 45:17Speaker 4: you say, hey, listen, guys, you think I'm gonna walk
- 45:19Speaker 4: away from one hundred and eighty two million? Here I am.
- 45:22Speaker 2: I can't play though.
- 45:23Speaker 3: This is by the way, people I think have very
- 45:26Speaker 3: misguided anger on this thing. I'm not mad at Chris
- 45:30Speaker 3: Bryant for this at all, mean either like I that is,
- 45:33Speaker 3: it was not his fault that his back gave out.
- 45:36Speaker 3: It is the fault of the people who thought it
- 45:38Speaker 3: was a good idea to sign an aging guy who
- 45:40Speaker 3: had back problems, whose game was already past its prime
- 45:44Speaker 3: when they signed him. Like even when he was healthy
- 45:46Speaker 3: enough to play, he was not good anymore.
- 45:48Speaker 2: It was such a panic move. It looked bad. I
- 45:51Speaker 2: mean it just it felt like such a panic move
- 45:54Speaker 2: that we've got to do something. Oh, here's a former
- 45:56Speaker 2: All Star that's uh at it on the market too.
- 45:59Speaker 4: I'm not gonna to rip on I mean bad luck.
- 46:01Speaker 4: I mean it happened to is back went.
- 46:03Speaker 2: Completely hand on.
- 46:05Speaker 3: Beyond the back injury they signed him. We all said,
- 46:09Speaker 3: what are they doing this? Makes no sense immediately.
- 46:12Speaker 2: That's true.
- 46:12Speaker 3: The reaction was never like, yes, we got Chris Bryant,
- 46:15Speaker 3: it's what's the point of this, like right away. So
- 46:20Speaker 3: this isn't one of those like when people talk about
- 46:22Speaker 3: how bad the rust thing was, the Russell Wilson trade
- 46:25Speaker 3: and it's like, well, you probably were jumping for joy
- 46:27Speaker 3: when it first happened. I think most people were like,
- 46:30Speaker 3: I don't understand this at all at all.
- 46:34Speaker 2: How many games do you think the Rockies are going
- 46:36Speaker 2: to win this year?
- 46:37Speaker 4: I don't know how many?
- 46:39Speaker 3: Sixty three?
- 46:40Speaker 2: Let me yeah, let me reverse that. Then how much
- 46:43Speaker 2: I think they're going to lose.
- 46:44Speaker 4: I think there'll be more in ninety nine. I think
- 46:48Speaker 4: they made enough changes they'll they'll bring some intrigue this season.
- 46:53Speaker 2: I do. Why did I even come home? Why why
- 47:02Speaker 2: did I even come home? And I told my lovely
- 47:05Speaker 2: wife last night, I'm regretting going in in the morning
- 47:08Speaker 2: because I know they're going to say some stupid, stupid
- 47:10Speaker 2: things that I thought was out of my system. I
- 47:12Speaker 2: know it. Vic. They lost one hundred and nineteen ball games.
- 47:16Speaker 2: Bro Their their plus minus in run run differential was
- 47:20Speaker 2: minus four hundred and twenty four. The biggest the biggest
- 47:25Speaker 2: in FDR was wasn't even born yet?
- 47:30Speaker 4: Your face, your face looks bigger. How much of this
- 47:32Speaker 4: fun did you eat?
- 47:33Speaker 3: Jack glasscock was roaming around spitting brass spittoons when the
- 47:38Speaker 3: last time a team had a minus four hundred and
- 47:41Speaker 3: twenty four run different.
- 47:42Speaker 4: Don't even fit over your face?
- 47:43Speaker 2: And then you say I think they're going to be intriguing.
- 47:48Speaker 2: I just I cannot. I can't do.
- 47:50Speaker 4: It with it.
- 47:51Speaker 3: Just click quick quick, Raj texted me over the weekend.
- 47:55Speaker 3: He said, I thought you should know this. I found
- 47:58Speaker 3: out something amazing. Jack Glass Cox great great great grandson
- 48:04Speaker 3: JJ is a sophomore shortstop at West Virginia. How about that?
- 48:10Speaker 4: Does he play without a glove?
- 48:12Speaker 3: I think he has a glove? No, I think he does.
- 48:14Speaker 4: Now if he played without a glove, that'd be something,
- 48:16Speaker 4: that would be something.
- 48:17Speaker 2: And let me say something else, Raj, Let me do
- 48:19Speaker 2: it quick. Yeah. If you've got enough time on your
- 48:21Speaker 2: hand to research the lineage of Jack Glass Cockton, you've
- 48:25Speaker 2: got problems.
- 48:26Speaker 3: Man.
- 48:27Speaker 2: Why did I even come home all right?
- 48:29Speaker 4: Back after this