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Best of Chuck in the Morning 7-21 · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Chaos.
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  Speaker 1: We're got a long time were the action never stop?
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  Speaker 5: Are you writing this stuff?
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  Speaker 1: Something completed? This is Chuck in the Morning. My people
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  Speaker 1: are beyond. Let's go, let's get the game off. Weird,
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  Speaker 1: really weird.
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  Speaker 6: It feels weird.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, hey, good morning to you, and welcome into the
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  Speaker 7: radio program. It is Chalking Back on the Mornings. Actually
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  Speaker 7: it's not Sports Radio ninety three point three kJ RFN.
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  Speaker 7: That was the whole point of making it weird, right,
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  Speaker 7: but weirdart. Yeah, I can't multitask, so I'm looking for
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  Speaker 7: keywords right now while I'm trying to introduce the show.
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  Speaker 7: Welcome to the radio program. It is good to have
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  Speaker 7: you with us. My name is Chuck Powell. Ashley Ryan
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  Speaker 7: is here as well. But you know what, I was
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  Speaker 7: kind of on the fence on whether or not I
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  Speaker 7: was even going to bring this up. But now that
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  Speaker 7: awkwardly we have started another show. I think that I will.
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  Speaker 7: I think that's how I'll start things here today. We
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  Speaker 7: got a lot to talk about it, and I can't
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  Speaker 7: wait to talk about some of this stuff that we
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  Speaker 7: got on the table here today.
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  Speaker 1: But I would just say that there's sort of this rule.
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  Speaker 7: In all companies, and it certainly works in media because
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  Speaker 7: we have platforms and we mask we are mass communicating,
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  Speaker 7: and so bosses throughout my entire career have not liked
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  Speaker 7: for me to expand on really any inner workings that
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  Speaker 7: take place at the office. And yet I've always kind
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  Speaker 7: of felt bad because I I know that the audience
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  Speaker 7: is wondering and they're trying to figure out exactly what's
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  Speaker 7: happening with a show or one of their favorite personalities
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  Speaker 7: or whatever the case may be. So I do try
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  Speaker 7: to pull the curtain back and I do try to reveal.
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  Speaker 7: And I've often got in trouble for this throughout my
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  Speaker 7: career for doing stuff like this. So yesterday we started
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  Speaker 7: the show off awkwardly because I wasn't exactly sure what
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  Speaker 7: we had agreed to call the new show in the
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  Speaker 7: transition period. I should say, I shouldn't even call it
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  Speaker 7: the new show, the transition period because Friday we did
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  Speaker 7: announce that Bucky will be leaving the show. Might still
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  Speaker 7: be part of the show, but he's not going to
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  Speaker 7: be a constant member of the show. It's not going
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  Speaker 7: to be chucking the buck in the mornings anymore, and
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  Speaker 7: there will be a transition period into what the show
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  Speaker 7: will be going forward. So yesterday and trying to update
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  Speaker 7: you on this, I set a couple of tongue in
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  Speaker 7: cheek things on the air, and there's always a little
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  Speaker 7: bit of truth to tongue in cheek. There's no doubt
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  Speaker 7: that Ashley and I have been frustrated by the weight
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  Speaker 7: to be able to figure out where we're going to
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  Speaker 7: go with the show going forward, so there's always a
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  Speaker 7: little bit of truth to it. But there was also
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  Speaker 7: mostly joking about how I'm in the dark, and so
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  Speaker 7: I revealed that just so you know that if I
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  Speaker 7: could tell you, I would tell you, and I certainly
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  Speaker 7: after four months of waiting for information about the radio program,
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  Speaker 7: I did not want to overpromise on when we're going
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  Speaker 7: to have answers going forward as to what the show's
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  Speaker 7: going to become, right, and in doing so, I ended
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  Speaker 7: up saying something that was taken the wrong way by
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  Speaker 7: at least one person, because someone out there with a
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  Speaker 7: platform decided to take word for word what I said
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  Speaker 7: yesterday out of context in this segment, make an article
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  Speaker 7: about it.
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  Speaker 1: It went around.
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  Speaker 7: I don't think it's really something that normal human beings see,
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  Speaker 7: but people in the.
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  Speaker 1: Media see it everywhere.
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  Speaker 7: So anyway, I had to spend part of my day
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  Speaker 7: yesterday sort of explaining how that was taken out of context.
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  Speaker 1: It was tongue in cheek. Whoever did it did it
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  Speaker 1: word for word, And so I do want you to
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  Speaker 1: know that we're on it. What's going to become of
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  Speaker 1: the Morning show?
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  Speaker 7: And so I don't have like times, and I don't
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  Speaker 7: have who's or what's going to happen, but I am
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  Speaker 7: part of the conversation and so I'm not in the dark.
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  Speaker 7: Just so you know, and as soon as we know anything,
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  Speaker 7: will pass it along. But I learned a pretty valuable
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  Speaker 7: lesson yesterday. The more you talk about this stuff, the
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  Speaker 7: more you sometimes can get yourself in trouble. So I'm
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  Speaker 7: going to back off of that, and I don't think
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  Speaker 7: that's fair to the listening audience. I think that all
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  Speaker 7: of you should know if you like this show, you've
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  Speaker 7: invested in this show and you're curious as to what's
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  Speaker 7: going to happen. I'd love to tell you every single
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  Speaker 7: step that we're talking about behind the scenes, but obviously,
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  Speaker 7: based off of yesterday, I can't do that because there
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  Speaker 7: are some vultures out there that are looking for any
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  Speaker 7: kind of two or three clicks to make themselves feel
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  Speaker 7: more important, and so I'm going to have to back
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  Speaker 7: off of that, and so I apologize to Ashley, apologize
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  Speaker 7: to Rich, I apologize to Marshal, our bosses, because I
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  Speaker 7: certainly didn't mean to cause any trouble for anybody. I
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  Speaker 7: was just trying not to overpromise on what we might
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  Speaker 7: do next here on the Morning show, and in doing
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  Speaker 7: that tongue in cheek, it got taken the wrong way
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  Speaker 7: and it turned into something not really publicly but in
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  Speaker 7: the media world, and I wrestled with it all night long.
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  Speaker 7: I felt bad about talked to Ashley on the phone
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  Speaker 7: last night about it. I'm like that came off tongue
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  Speaker 7: in cheek, Rice.
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  Speaker 8: I didn't take anything that you said in a serious way,
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  Speaker 8: and I think that somebody heard it, probably last minute,
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  Speaker 8: or someone told somebody something or.
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  Speaker 7: AI maybe our show is an ai word for word,
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  Speaker 7: and somebody took it word for word rather than heard
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  Speaker 7: hearing the tongue in cheek or the laughter that was
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  Speaker 7: mixed into the conversation.
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  Speaker 1: So anyway, a little bit of it I had. I
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  Speaker 1: had one of those days yesterday.
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  Speaker 7: I can't even tell you about the other thing to
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  Speaker 7: me because I don't even know the consequences.
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  Speaker 1: Of the other thing that happened to me. It's technology based.
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  Speaker 7: I blew some stuff out that I didn't mean to
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  Speaker 7: blow out, and now I don't know if I can
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  Speaker 7: retrieve it, and I don't know if I want to
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  Speaker 7: retrieve it. So anyway, it was one of those days
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  Speaker 7: and not exactly the most fun evening. Thank goodness our
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  Speaker 7: baseball team came through last night because that made things
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  Speaker 7: feel a lot better. I mean, I it was one
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  Speaker 7: to nothing for a lot of that game, and there
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  Speaker 7: was a very good chance we were going to start
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  Speaker 7: this show today by saying what on earth is happening
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  Speaker 7: with George Kirby who looked about as good as you
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  Speaker 7: can look yesterday and yet got pulled after six innings,
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  Speaker 7: and that could have very easily been the lead and
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  Speaker 7: instead cal Raly it's a grand slam. Goodness, Reds make
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  Speaker 7: some mistakes late, you pull away and end up in
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  Speaker 7: the score book.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you just you just you know.
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  Speaker 7: Google the game last night eight to nothing. Oh man,
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  Speaker 7: the Mariners won in a laughter and a laugher. It
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  Speaker 7: was one to nothing or a zero zero for a
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  Speaker 7: lot of that game, and uncomfortably one to nothing in
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  Speaker 7: the at the end of the sixth when we decided
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  Speaker 7: to take our starting pitcher who it looked like the
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  Speaker 7: Cincinnati Reds were never going to solve.
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  Speaker 1: Even with time travel, they could have gone fifty years into.
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  Speaker 7: The future and they were going to weren't going to
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  Speaker 7: figure out how to hit George Kirby last night, and
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  Speaker 7: yet we took him out after eighty pitches and six
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  Speaker 7: innings when apparently our bullpen was unavailable, our best guys
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  Speaker 7: were mostly unavailable last night.
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  Speaker 1: It was looking very much like.
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  Speaker 7: I was gonna have to come on the air again
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  Speaker 7: this morning and wonder what the f is going on?
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  Speaker 7: And instead, perhaps the bigger story that emerged was that
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  Speaker 7: cal Raley hit a grand slam. Cal Raley spoke after
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  Speaker 7: the game, the team seems to be gelling, it sounds like,
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  Speaker 7: and so a three game winning streak back in first place,
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  Speaker 7: all of this stuff. When we were at Ashley one
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  Speaker 7: to nothing, wondering why is George being taken out? Am
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  Speaker 7: I gonna have to bash Dan Wilson again tomorrow two.
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  Speaker 1: Eight nothing, Laugher.
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  Speaker 7: Cal's back on track, We're in first place, teams teams
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  Speaker 7: in harmony.
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  Speaker 1: And here we go. I mean.
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  Speaker 7: Difference between what I was thinking we were going to
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  Speaker 7: talk about and.
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  Speaker 1: What we and the number of things we do have
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  Speaker 1: to talk about.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, it was.
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  Speaker 8: It was a stressful game watching it sitting at home
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  Speaker 8: and we were all watching it in the living room
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  Speaker 8: thinking like, oh, come on, you can't sounds stressful. Well,
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  Speaker 8: it wasn't stressful when you called, you know, a cal
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  Speaker 8: Rawley grand slam will do that in our house.
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  Speaker 6: Palmer the great freaking the f out.
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  Speaker 8: I think if it was up to her, I would
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  Speaker 8: have had to rewind it and watch it seventeen times
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  Speaker 8: because she was just so excited.
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  Speaker 6: But that it was. It was that one thing.
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  Speaker 8: But how often have we seen the mariners with the
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  Speaker 8: bases loaded and somebody come up to the plate thinking,
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  Speaker 8: having all your hopes that they're going to do something
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  Speaker 8: and they don't deliver, and or you know or we don't,
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  Speaker 8: we maybe get one run. It was it seemed like
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  Speaker 8: it was that kind of game where it was like,
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  Speaker 8: we're just going to have to scrape.
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  Speaker 6: To get these runs.
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  Speaker 8: And then in one swing the whole game changed and
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  Speaker 8: you could see the relief on Cow's face.
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  Speaker 1: That's for sure, not even the game like that.
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  Speaker 7: Outlook changed And I'm not going again, I'm not going
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  Speaker 7: to over promise. That's what I tried to do yesterday.
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  Speaker 7: I'm not going to try to over promise. We've been
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  Speaker 7: here before, particularly with this specific twenty twenty six version
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  Speaker 7: of the Mariners. Is just when you think they start
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  Speaker 7: to click, they show up the next night and they
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  Speaker 7: play their worst baseball and then we're wondering are they
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  Speaker 7: ever going to get it right again? And then out
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  Speaker 7: of the blue, Cole Young gets a three run homer
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  Speaker 7: and then all of a sudden it reverse course the
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  Speaker 7: other way. Yeah, it's just been one of those years.
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  Speaker 1: I think we've been as frustrated.
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  Speaker 7: Each of the last five years, each of the last
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  Speaker 7: five seasons at various points in the seasons, as we
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  Speaker 7: have been this year.
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  Speaker 1: But it's a.
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  Speaker 7: New frustrat It's a different type of frustration. Number one,
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  Speaker 7: the expectations and number two, how this team cannot ride
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  Speaker 7: a groove whatsoever, and yet they will pull themselves out of.
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  Speaker 1: It just when you least expect it, like they.
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  Speaker 7: Did on Saturday. But not only did you get the
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  Speaker 7: Grand Slam, I mean, in just some fantastic sports theater,
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  Speaker 7: the fact that last year's runner up for MVP, in
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  Speaker 7: the year of Cal a guy, that whatever he touch
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  Speaker 7: turned to gold. I mean, he won the home run Derby.
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  Speaker 7: He you know, with his dad and his brother, he
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  Speaker 7: was sixty homers.
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  Speaker 1: Nothing.
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  Speaker 7: It just felt like cal Rawley should have played the
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  Speaker 7: lottery last year because he might have won three times.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 7: It was one of those kind of years. And then
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  Speaker 7: this year from the WBC on like, nothing's gone right
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  Speaker 7: for Cal. Yeah, nothing's gone right. I mean it's incredible
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  Speaker 7: the drop off. And so for him to come to
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  Speaker 7: the plate last night, the game's still in question, and
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  Speaker 7: for Terry Francona, one of the best managers of modern
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  Speaker 7: day baseball, to have said, hey, I don't care what
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  Speaker 7: the reputations are of these two players. That can zone
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  Speaker 7: Guy even against the lefty, worries me more than the
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  Speaker 7: at bats I've been watching from twenty nine lately. So
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  Speaker 7: I'm going to go ahead, and even though I brought
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  Speaker 7: in a lefty, I'm going to go ahead and put
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  Speaker 7: can Zone on, and I'm going to pitch to Raleigh
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  Speaker 7: because I don't mean any disrespect, but I've watched you
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  Speaker 7: take at bats and you don't look like you got
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  Speaker 7: a clue.
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  Speaker 1: And what does he do? First pitch? Grand Slam?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, first pitch, Grand Slam, Palmer the greats jumping around
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  Speaker 7: the house.
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  Speaker 1: Freaking out, screaming.
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  Speaker 7: I thought something went wrong because I called Ashley what
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  Speaker 7: I thought was during a pitching break, pitching change, and
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  Speaker 7: it turns out that I had forgotten that I had
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  Speaker 7: rewound it to replay something and paused it for a while.
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  Speaker 7: So I was like a half inning behind. Yeah, where
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  Speaker 7: the actual game was. I wouldn't have called you during
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  Speaker 7: a Grand Slam, that's for sure.
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  Speaker 8: Well, I thought maybe you just wanted to sell. You
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  Speaker 8: were like, you know what, I think Cal's going to
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  Speaker 8: do something great here.
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  Speaker 6: Let's talk.
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  Speaker 1: Well, maybe I do have to call every night now. Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: Well, so he hits the Grand Slam and then afterwards
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  Speaker 7: speaks to the media, which we will replay some of
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  Speaker 7: that for you a little bit later on in the
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  Speaker 7: show and expresses.
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  Speaker 1: How difficult the season it's been, expresses how for the first.
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  Speaker 7: Time all season long, it feels like they are one
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  Speaker 7: heartbeat in essence. It feels, you know, basically saying, we
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  Speaker 7: weren't doing the little things, we weren't excited about doing
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  Speaker 7: the little things, and it feels like now we're back
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  Speaker 7: to being a team. I mean, that was something brushed
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  Speaker 7: under the rug. Kind of wish I'd have known those
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  Speaker 7: feelings were floating around prior to last.
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  Speaker 1: This past weekend, but apparently there were.
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  Speaker 7: Some problems, and so Cal kind of making himself vulnerable,
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  Speaker 7: expressing the frustrations he's had with the season and hoping
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  Speaker 7: that he comes out of it and believing that the
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  Speaker 7: team has come together here in the last seventy two hours.
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  Speaker 7: And so suddenly you go from oh my gosh, one
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  Speaker 7: to nothing. They took George out. I'm going to punch
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  Speaker 7: somebody in the face.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm angry.
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  Speaker 7: Oh we won eight to nothing, we got a three
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  Speaker 7: game winning streak, we just moved back into first place.
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  Speaker 7: We're over five hundred again, and cow might be back
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  Speaker 7: on track based on what he said and what we
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  Speaker 7: saw last night and according to him, the captain of
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  Speaker 7: the team, they've never been closer than they've been all
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  Speaker 7: season long. So you want to go from dark clouds
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  Speaker 7: to suddenly we have light that has popped into our lives.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, it happened in a blink, and it happened
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  Speaker 7: here in the span of about an inning.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I.
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  Speaker 8: And we talked about yesterday that Cole Young home run
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  Speaker 8: that they had, that he had on Saturday, and what
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  Speaker 8: a turning point that could have been.
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  Speaker 6: And boy is it.
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  Speaker 8: I mean again, not to get ahead of ourselves or
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  Speaker 8: make too much, but it's sure seeming like that did something.
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  Speaker 7: Yes, I agree, I'm not gonna over promise and say
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  Speaker 7: we're gonna go on a Boston Red Sox fourteen game
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  Speaker 7: winning streak here, but maybe maybe.
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  Speaker 1: There are the makings of something.
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  Speaker 7: Maybe maybe they have flushed may maybe they you know,
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  Speaker 7: Cole Young stared down the worst moment of the year,
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  Speaker 7: potentially rose above it, and maybe it did start something.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe it did kick something, uh into gear. But we'll
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  Speaker 1: we'll see.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, I hate saying that as sports talk show hosts.
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  Speaker 7: It's like the laziest analysis that you can possibly provide.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, but it's also hard to ignore.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, but we shall see. We're gonna hear from cal later.
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  Speaker 7: We're gonna hear from Logan later, because he said some
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  Speaker 7: interesting things on our airwaves yesterday that are a little refreshing,
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  Speaker 7: frankly to hear. So we're gonna get into that later
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  Speaker 7: on in the show. And we certainly got to talk
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  Speaker 7: about the pitching decision last night as.
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  Speaker 1: Well with George. I'm just trying to figure out how
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  Speaker 1: and when.
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  Speaker 7: Now, all right, let's find out what's on tap for
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  Speaker 7: the rest of the show.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, he's busy. It's very busy.
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  Speaker 1: Ashley cracks a whip.
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  Speaker 6: I was like, sorry, I need your help. I'm gonna
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  Speaker 6: go golf if you could get.
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  Speaker 1: This done, Ashley says, jump vic. He says how high.
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  Speaker 7: Mariners win ate nothing over the reds. Ryan Healy will
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  Speaker 7: join us today at nine o'clock. We had a great
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  Speaker 7: conversation yesterday at nine o'clock with Angie Mintink. She pretty
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  Speaker 7: much spelled it out. Finally had room radio. You know,
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  Speaker 7: she didn't have to worry about saying things in nine
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  Speaker 7: second you know spurts. So she finally got to unleash
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  Speaker 7: on what she wants to see out of cal to
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  Speaker 7: break him out of us. It was really good. And
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  Speaker 7: then what does he do last night? He it's a
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  Speaker 7: grand slam last night.
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  Speaker 6: Maybe we should just talk to Angie every night.
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  Speaker 7: We used to talk to her every week. But I
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  Speaker 7: can't wait to hear what Ryan has to say about it.
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  Speaker 7: I can't wait to dive into that further. With the
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  Speaker 7: former Mariner who joins us. Every Tuesday at nine o'clock
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  Speaker 7: we are two weeks away from the trading deadline, and
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  Speaker 7: once the trading deadline, we always get a chance to
• 17:06
  Speaker 7: catch up with Jim Boden, who's gone from general manager
• 17:09
  Speaker 7: to media guy. He's basically a trade deadline expert. That's
• 17:14
  Speaker 7: pretty much what Jim Boden has turned himself into, and
• 17:17
  Speaker 7: so he's very busy this time of the year. We
• 17:19
  Speaker 7: get our chance to chat with him today at seven
• 17:22
  Speaker 7: oh five, and he can't get enough of this stuff.
• 17:25
  Speaker 7: If you think I'm sick about trades, meet Jim Boden. Yeah,
• 17:29
  Speaker 7: and so we'll see what he thinks trade deadline. We
• 17:32
  Speaker 7: did have a move, by the way, yes two days ago,
• 17:36
  Speaker 7: very minor move where the Dodgers acquired a relief pitcher
• 17:40
  Speaker 7: from the Colorado Rockies who will probably turn into Mason Miller.
• 17:43
  Speaker 5: Now.
• 17:44
  Speaker 7: Yeah, and so we do have our first trade deadline trade.
• 17:47
  Speaker 7: But obviously most experts think it's gonna take a little
• 17:50
  Speaker 7: while for this thing to pop. So we'll ask Jim
• 17:53
  Speaker 7: Boden what he thinks the Mariners will do, should do,
• 17:57
  Speaker 7: and much much more. Coming up today at seven five.
• 18:00
  Speaker 7: The Boston Red Sox are probably off the market as sellers.
• 18:04
  Speaker 7: They are maybe transitioning into buyers. They have won fourteen
• 18:09
  Speaker 7: straight games, and let me just say it because it's
• 18:11
  Speaker 7: a really good story if you're monitoring it at all,
• 18:14
  Speaker 7: I mean, Boston's going crazy for this team right now.
• 18:17
  Speaker 7: You want to talk about a team that was left
• 18:18
  Speaker 7: for dead and then led by, of all people, Wilson Contreras,
• 18:24
  Speaker 7: who might have to be considered an MVP of the
• 18:27
  Speaker 7: American League, a guy who has a reputation for not
• 18:30
  Speaker 7: only opponents, not.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: Liking him, teammates not liking him.
• 18:34
  Speaker 9: And yet his version of leadership, which is this fiery,
• 18:39
  Speaker 9: I will fight anyone that tries to get in our
• 18:42
  Speaker 9: way kind of leadership, and he's.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: He's started like seven bench clearing.
• 18:47
  Speaker 7: Brawls this year, and for whatever reason, that's exactly what
• 18:52
  Speaker 7: this team needed, because behind Wilson Contreras, they are fighting
• 18:56
  Speaker 7: for every inch in Boston. They've won fourteen straight games,
• 19:00
  Speaker 7: they're in wildcard contention.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: It's a heck of a story, it really.
• 19:04
  Speaker 7: Is, and I would like to think it's the final
• 19:08
  Speaker 7: piece of evidence that people need when we say it's early.
• 19:14
  Speaker 6: Wait what Yeah.
• 19:16
  Speaker 7: Turns out even a team left for dead can go,
• 19:19
  Speaker 7: can get back into the race and still have sixty
• 19:23
  Speaker 7: plus games to play.
• 19:25
  Speaker 6: Hmm weird. Yeah, that's weird.
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: Good lord.
• 19:29
  Speaker 7: All right, four days still training camp. We're continuing our
• 19:32
  Speaker 7: training camp preparation. As a matter of fact, we're going
• 19:35
  Speaker 7: to get ahead of some of those conversations that we're
• 19:38
  Speaker 7: going to be having all throughout the next four or
• 19:40
  Speaker 7: five weeks here on the radio station, but we'll have
• 19:44
  Speaker 7: them for the first time previewing exactly what's coming your way,
• 19:49
  Speaker 7: starting next Monday with the Morning show at six am
• 19:53
  Speaker 7: from the Virginia Mason Athletics Center. Sounders back in action
• 19:57
  Speaker 7: tomorrow against Austin. I know they like to pretend like
• 20:00
  Speaker 7: this is their first match since the World Cup ended.
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: Unfortunately it is not.
• 20:06
  Speaker 7: They played last week. I don't even know why they
• 20:08
  Speaker 7: played last week. Why didn't you wait for the World
• 20:10
  Speaker 7: Cup to end? The MLS should have waited and the
• 20:14
  Speaker 7: Sounders would have benefited from that. They got smoked by
• 20:17
  Speaker 7: Portland five to one. So to try to bounce back
• 20:20
  Speaker 7: feels kind of important. I don't know why, but feels
• 20:22
  Speaker 7: kind of important for Brian Schmetzer and the team taking
• 20:25
  Speaker 7: on the fighting Matthew mcconaugheyy tomorrow. Storm fell to Olivia
• 20:29
  Speaker 7: Miles and the Links yesterday one five, one oh two.
• 20:32
  Speaker 7: I told you this rookie yesterday kind of warned you,
• 20:34
  Speaker 7: man is she she might be the MVP of the league.
• 20:38
  Speaker 7: They've had the best record. She had thirty two to
• 20:41
  Speaker 7: eight and eight against the Storm last night, and so
• 20:44
  Speaker 7: another loss for the Seattle Storm and we remain on
• 20:47
  Speaker 7: lebron Watch and it's kind of the critics are kind
• 20:50
  Speaker 7: of getting silly on this at this point. So we'll
• 20:53
  Speaker 7: talk a little bit about Lebron coming up today at
• 20:55
  Speaker 7: seven forty five, But coming up next we'll get into
• 20:57
  Speaker 7: some of the details of last night It's Mariners win.
• 21:01
  Speaker 7: We'll also hear from someone from last night's Mariners win.
• 21:06
  Speaker 7: And I am going to find some time at some
• 21:09
  Speaker 7: points talk about this George Kirby taken out after the
• 21:12
  Speaker 7: sixth inning because even though it turned out okay, I'm
• 21:15
  Speaker 7: still a little worried about it. We'll talk about that
• 21:18
  Speaker 7: next Sports Radio ninety three point three k A R
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  Speaker 7: F M.
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  Speaker 10: Spright Wanta redo. That's what you do when somebody disrespects you.
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  Speaker 1: That's what you do.
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  Speaker 10: Right there, Well done, col Rawley, Lefty to get to me.
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  Speaker 10: You want this all right, I'll give it to you.
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  Speaker 7: Parin and Aci on the call last night of Cal
• 22:11
  Speaker 7: Raleigh's Grand Slam home run. Big part of that story,
• 22:16
  Speaker 7: Terry Francona, the Reds manager, intentionally walked on Canzone in
• 22:21
  Speaker 7: front of him to load the bases, even though he
• 22:23
  Speaker 7: had a lefty lefty matchup. Raleigh on the first pitch
• 22:27
  Speaker 7: makes Francona pay. Hopefully it gets him going. Obviously, it's
• 22:32
  Speaker 7: been a very frustrating year for the Big Dumper.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: But when you're a first place team, which.
• 22:38
  Speaker 7: They are this morning, and your franchise player has played
• 22:43
  Speaker 7: as poorly as he has man if he can just
• 22:46
  Speaker 7: get going the rest of the way sixty one games
• 22:49
  Speaker 7: to play, then yes, all the goals are still there
• 22:53
  Speaker 7: to achieve, right there for the taking. Thanks to Mariners
• 22:56
  Speaker 7: TV for the call. Last night of the Grand Slam.
• 23:00
  Speaker 7: It was an eight nothing blowout of the Cincinnati Reds.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: It was actually very uncomfortable at one point.
• 23:06
  Speaker 7: George Kirby had done his part, but the offense had
• 23:09
  Speaker 7: not shown up against Andrew Abbott. It was one nothing
• 23:12
  Speaker 7: going into the bottom of the seventh and for some reason,
• 23:15
  Speaker 7: Dan Wilson took George Kirby out of the game after
• 23:18
  Speaker 7: eighty pitches.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: Still hasn't been explained to me.
• 23:22
  Speaker 7: And so they went to a bullpen with Nick Devilla
• 23:26
  Speaker 7: getting the ball in the seventh and we weren't sure
• 23:30
  Speaker 7: if Munjos was available or Spire or Bizardo, and it
• 23:34
  Speaker 7: just was Bizardo to watch George get taken out of
• 23:37
  Speaker 7: that game. But it all worked out eight nothing the
• 23:40
  Speaker 7: final score. So the Mariners have won three straight. They're
• 23:42
  Speaker 7: back over five hundred and fifty one and fifty. They
• 23:45
  Speaker 7: jumped the Texas Rangers last night to move into first
• 23:47
  Speaker 7: place in the American League West by a very slim margin,
• 23:51
  Speaker 7: and they faced the exact same team.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: Tonight, the Cincinnati Reds.
• 23:55
  Speaker 7: Even though the Reds are going to be throwing their
• 23:57
  Speaker 7: best pitcher at us arguably, and that is a Burns,
• 24:01
  Speaker 7: the All Star and one of the most talented pitchers.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: In all of Major League Baseball.
• 24:05
  Speaker 7: We'll counter with the veteran and former Cincinnati Red Luis Castillo.
• 24:09
  Speaker 7: First pitch there is at six forty. We are four
• 24:12
  Speaker 7: days from training camp. Our training camp prep continues today
• 24:16
  Speaker 7: at seven thirty. As a matter of fact, Sounders they
• 24:19
  Speaker 7: will return to the pitch tomorrow taking on Austin the
• 24:23
  Speaker 7: Fighting Matthew Mcconaugheyes, the Sounders actually played a match before
• 24:27
  Speaker 7: the World Cup came to an end, and I think
• 24:29
  Speaker 7: they wish they wouldn't have. They lost to Portland five
• 24:32
  Speaker 7: to one, So they're going to try to get back
• 24:34
  Speaker 7: on the.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: Right track tomorrow against Austin.
• 24:37
  Speaker 7: Storm fell to Olivia Miles in the Minnesota Lynx last
• 24:41
  Speaker 7: night one oh five to one oh two. And of
• 24:43
  Speaker 7: course we all remain on Lebron watch, whether we like
• 24:46
  Speaker 7: it or not. It doesn't sound like the Hall of
• 24:49
  Speaker 7: Famer future Hall of Famer is gonna make his decision
• 24:52
  Speaker 7: anytime soon, but certainly the NBA world is captivated about
• 24:57
  Speaker 7: what he's thinking and where he's going to end up.
• 24:59
  Speaker 7: We'll talk talk more about that a little bit later
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  Speaker 7: on the program as somebody that's we want to make
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  Speaker 7: sure we get to chat with near the trading deadline
• 25:36
  Speaker 7: every single year.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: He's the former.
• 25:38
  Speaker 7: Reds general manager, and he's pretty much become all of
• 25:41
  Speaker 7: our general managers here at the trading deadline. In the
• 25:44
  Speaker 7: sports media world, he's an analyst and insider for CBS
• 25:48
  Speaker 7: Sports also The Athletic and he has a very interesting
• 25:52
  Speaker 7: article out the five trades that he's looking forward to
• 25:56
  Speaker 7: that he'd like to see happen between now and the
• 25:58
  Speaker 7: trading deadline. Bowden joins us here on Chuck in the Mornings. Hello, Jim,
• 26:03
  Speaker 7: how are you?
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: I'm doing fine, Chuck? How are you this morning?
• 26:06
  Speaker 11: Great?
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: Happy trade deadline season? I mean you're like me.
• 26:09
  Speaker 7: I mean this is like a holiday for you and
• 26:11
  Speaker 7: I so I'll buy you a cake. I got your
• 26:14
  Speaker 7: card and hopefully they get in the mail soon.
• 26:17
  Speaker 12: Yeah, you know what, It's a lot of fun, isn't it.
• 26:19
  Speaker 12: I Mean, we've got thirteen days left and August third,
• 26:23
  Speaker 12: at six o'clock, it's over. And this year is a
• 26:25
  Speaker 12: little bit different than anyone that I've ever been associated
• 26:29
  Speaker 12: with or covered because we've never seen so many teams
• 26:32
  Speaker 12: that are within striking distance of the wild card in
• 26:35
  Speaker 12: both leagues, and a lot of teams are really on
• 26:38
  Speaker 12: the fence of what they're going to do and haven't
• 26:40
  Speaker 12: made their decision yet, and so you know, we're gonna wait.
• 26:43
  Speaker 12: Probably that final week is going to be very very
• 26:45
  Speaker 12: fascinating to see what actually transpires. So it could go
• 26:49
  Speaker 12: either way. We could have a real busy one or
• 26:51
  Speaker 12: we could have a real quiet one.
• 26:52
  Speaker 7: Yeah, that's kind of where I wanted to start, and
• 26:55
  Speaker 7: you've already touched upon it. But it's understandably slow right
• 26:59
  Speaker 7: now for all the reasons that you just mapped out.
• 27:02
  Speaker 7: You've been here before in similar situations where maybe the
• 27:07
  Speaker 7: market wasn't ready to pop. I mean, are we gonna
• 27:09
  Speaker 7: be looking at like the last forty eight hours before
• 27:12
  Speaker 7: anything really happens, or do you think we'll start to
• 27:14
  Speaker 7: see a few things trickle out here in the next
• 27:16
  Speaker 7: week or so.
• 27:18
  Speaker 12: I think I think starting next week we'll start to
• 27:21
  Speaker 12: see activity. I think it's gonna be I think a
• 27:23
  Speaker 12: lot of teams are gonna wait till this weekend is over,
• 27:26
  Speaker 12: and then by the time we get the next Monday
• 27:28
  Speaker 12: or Tuesday, I think we're gonna start seeing decisions being
• 27:30
  Speaker 12: made and then we'll see how that how the domino
• 27:34
  Speaker 12: effects works, right, because everyone's kind of watching the Detroit
• 27:37
  Speaker 12: Tigers right now to see if they're gonna have a
• 27:39
  Speaker 12: good week and get back in it, or if Scoopl's
• 27:41
  Speaker 12: gonna get traded, because obviously he'll be the headliner if
• 27:44
  Speaker 12: that happens. You know, we know the Mets are gonna sell,
• 27:47
  Speaker 12: and so that process has begun and started. So that's
• 27:50
  Speaker 12: fun to watch but we're all waiting to see what
• 27:52
  Speaker 12: the Blue Jays are gonna do. They're not playing very well,
• 27:55
  Speaker 12: and they have some pieces like Kevin Gosman and Shane
• 27:57
  Speaker 12: Bieber and Dalton.
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: Bar show that they could be moving.
• 27:59
  Speaker 12: So you know, we are waiting on some teams to
• 28:02
  Speaker 12: figure out which way they're going to go, which will
• 28:05
  Speaker 12: make it very, very interesting at the end.
• 28:07
  Speaker 7: I noticed in your five trades you'd like to see
• 28:09
  Speaker 7: happen for the Athletic you did not have a Trek's
• 28:12
  Speaker 7: Schooble trade in there. What do you think is going
• 28:16
  Speaker 7: to end up being Terrek Schooble's future.
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, it's interesting.
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: I didn't do.
• 28:21
  Speaker 12: School just because everyone has written, including me, has written
• 28:24
  Speaker 12: about it since May, and so how many times do
• 28:27
  Speaker 12: people want to see the same stuff over and over again?
• 28:30
  Speaker 5: You know?
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: You know, I do think if he has traded, you know.
• 28:33
  Speaker 12: Teams like Atlanta, the Dodgers even though they deny it,
• 28:36
  Speaker 12: the Yankees even though they deny it, Tampa Bay, you know,
• 28:40
  Speaker 12: I think those are kind of the front running Team's
• 28:42
  Speaker 12: Cubs could make a play there as well. But the
• 28:44
  Speaker 12: team that lines up the best with Detroit is going
• 28:47
  Speaker 12: to be the Dodgers, even though they're downplaying it. The
• 28:50
  Speaker 12: fact is the Dodgers farm system is so loaded right now.
• 28:54
  Speaker 12: The trading for schoobl is so easy because when you
• 28:58
  Speaker 12: have four or five outfield process.
• 29:00
  Speaker 5: Next at the level that they have that really.
• 29:02
  Speaker 12: Profile to be all star caliber players, trading one or
• 29:05
  Speaker 12: two of them is not a big deal for them.
• 29:07
  Speaker 5: And they're twenty.
• 29:09
  Speaker 12: Starting pitchers deep, it's not that hard to trade, you.
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: Know, someone that's on like on your eighth or ninth
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: on your priority list.
• 29:16
  Speaker 12: So it's pretty easy for the Dodgers to put together
• 29:19
  Speaker 12: a package that satisfies the Tigers. And you know, if
• 29:23
  Speaker 12: you're trying to win three World Championships in a row,
• 29:25
  Speaker 12: you might as well get greedy at the end.
• 29:27
  Speaker 5: So I still think they're going to be the front
• 29:29
  Speaker 5: runners to land them.
• 29:30
  Speaker 7: I love to see Milwaukee. I love to see schoobl
• 29:32
  Speaker 7: and miss and the same rotation for the playoffs me too.
• 29:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Be great for baseball, wouldn't it.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 29:38
  Speaker 7: Jim Bowden is with US former MLBGM and of course
• 29:42
  Speaker 7: works in the media now and pretty much we all
• 29:44
  Speaker 7: lean on him this time of the year for his insight,
• 29:48
  Speaker 7: and I do like your work. I love all of
• 29:49
  Speaker 7: your suggestions except the most recent one about the Mariners.
• 29:53
  Speaker 7: You and your article have George Kirby to the San
• 29:57
  Speaker 7: Francisco Giants for Casey Schmidt and Eric Miller. I think
• 30:02
  Speaker 7: we could get a lot more if we were to
• 30:03
  Speaker 7: move George, and frankly, Jim, I don't want to move George.
• 30:06
  Speaker 7: Not the way he's pitching right now. He finally seems
• 30:10
  Speaker 7: to be living up to that billing that we all
• 30:12
  Speaker 7: thought he would get to. He could be a legitimate
• 30:14
  Speaker 7: ace in this league. So not only do I not
• 30:16
  Speaker 7: want to move him, I think we could get a
• 30:18
  Speaker 7: lot more for him in that Why does this trade
• 30:21
  Speaker 7: make sense to you?
• 30:21
  Speaker 5: Though?
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 30:23
  Speaker 12: I mean the reason I kind of looked did that
• 30:26
  Speaker 12: deal is because in talking to Jerry Depoto the last time,
• 30:29
  Speaker 12: the president of the Mariners, he said his biggest needs
• 30:32
  Speaker 12: is a right hand hitter because you guys struggle so
• 30:35
  Speaker 12: much against left pin of pitching, and another high leverage reliever.
• 30:39
  Speaker 12: So I tried to find a way to get those
• 30:42
  Speaker 12: two pieces to satisfy. I mean, there's just such a
• 30:45
  Speaker 12: scarcity of right hand hitters that are available in both leagues.
• 30:50
  Speaker 12: You know, Philadelphia's been trying to get one since April.
• 30:53
  Speaker 12: It's just not fair. So I was trying to find
• 30:55
  Speaker 12: a way.
• 30:56
  Speaker 5: And then, you know.
• 30:57
  Speaker 12: I looked at Casey Schmidt, who's having his break out
• 31:00
  Speaker 12: year at age twenty seven, young guy in his prime.
• 31:03
  Speaker 5: He's got nineteen home runs on his way to thirty.
• 31:07
  Speaker 12: So I was thinking, okay, thirty home run bat, how
• 31:09
  Speaker 12: would he fit with Seattle. Well, the fact that he
• 31:10
  Speaker 12: can play first, second, third, right, left, can play all
• 31:13
  Speaker 12: over the diamond means that Seattle could plug him in
• 31:17
  Speaker 12: wherever they felt where Dan Wilson thought the biggest need was.
• 31:21
  Speaker 12: And then Miller's a guy that your last eight appearances,
• 31:23
  Speaker 12: he hasn't.
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: Given up a run, he doesn't walk anybody.
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: He punches everybody out.
• 31:27
  Speaker 5: I mean, he's just been so frigging dominant.
• 31:30
  Speaker 12: So I was just trying to think, Okay, if I
• 31:32
  Speaker 12: put Miller in the back end with for getting the
• 31:34
  Speaker 12: Munez and then you put Schmidt's thirty home run bat
• 31:39
  Speaker 12: in the middle on a team that's twenty seventh in
• 31:41
  Speaker 12: run scored, fifteenth.
• 31:44
  Speaker 5: In home runs, that.
• 31:45
  Speaker 12: You know, maybe those two pieces help you win. Yeah,
• 31:51
  Speaker 12: lose the trade, but win, you know. And that so
• 31:54
  Speaker 12: that was the thinking behind it. Also that you know what,
• 31:58
  Speaker 12: Kirby's control is two and a half years left. You
• 32:01
  Speaker 12: have Katie Anderson in the minor leagues. If quite frankly,
• 32:03
  Speaker 12: it's major league ready now if you put him in
• 32:05
  Speaker 12: your rotation, you have another dominant top of the rotation
• 32:07
  Speaker 12: starter right now. And you already have five starters, so
• 32:11
  Speaker 12: you're six d plus you got slow in coming.
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: And so yeah, I just tried to Okay, if the
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: Giants were.
• 32:18
  Speaker 12: Going to give up, you know, Schmidt and Miller, you know,
• 32:21
  Speaker 12: what would they would to take for them to do that?
• 32:24
  Speaker 12: And so yeah, I certainly I think it's an overpay
• 32:27
  Speaker 12: in terms of quality in the trade, but the two
• 32:30
  Speaker 12: pieces make the difference anyway.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: That was the thinking behind it, all right, all right,
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: I got it.
• 32:34
  Speaker 7: What about there's a there's a rumor out there, not
• 32:37
  Speaker 7: even a rumor, kind of a suggestion. More so Kirby
• 32:41
  Speaker 7: straight up for Mason Miller. Does that make sense to
• 32:45
  Speaker 7: you at all?
• 32:47
  Speaker 12: Not for not for San Diego. It doesn't like I
• 32:49
  Speaker 12: you know, first of all, I like Noler more than Kirby,
• 32:52
  Speaker 12: and Kailer is the best closer in the game, and
• 32:54
  Speaker 12: he's impactful. And if the Padres are going to trade
• 32:59
  Speaker 12: Mason Miller. They need four players back. They don't need
• 33:04
  Speaker 12: one controllable player for two and a half years. They
• 33:07
  Speaker 12: need four players back, five years of control and kind
• 33:11
  Speaker 12: of reboot. So if they were to trade Miller, the
• 33:14
  Speaker 12: package needs to be prospects rather than a one for
• 33:19
  Speaker 12: one major league type deal.
• 33:20
  Speaker 7: Well, we have the prospects too, So do you think
• 33:24
  Speaker 7: it makes sense for the Mariners then to put together
• 33:27
  Speaker 7: a prospect package for Mason Miller.
• 33:30
  Speaker 12: I would make a run at Miller no matter who
• 33:32
  Speaker 12: I was, just because he's so dominant.
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: So I would love it. But I think.
• 33:37
  Speaker 12: Seattle's big, bigger problem is offense and scoring runs. I
• 33:41
  Speaker 12: think you have a pitching to win. Look, I've said this.
• 33:43
  Speaker 12: I've said this on Fouled Territory ten days ago. I
• 33:47
  Speaker 12: said the Mariners are going to win the AL West
• 33:49
  Speaker 12: and they're going to.
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: Run away with it. And everybody's kind of looked at me.
• 33:52
  Speaker 12: And said, well, you know, you've seen the standings, and
• 33:55
  Speaker 12: I said, yeah, but here's what I know. In August
• 33:58
  Speaker 12: and September, the team with the best pitching wins, and
• 34:02
  Speaker 12: Seattle's rotation is such that they will beat up they
• 34:06
  Speaker 12: will beat up the teams in August in September and
• 34:09
  Speaker 12: win it. The other thing is the offense is better
• 34:12
  Speaker 12: than what they performed. And when's the last time homely
• 34:15
  Speaker 12: Ardriguez at a home run? When's the last time cal
• 34:17
  Speaker 12: Raley was cal Raley like, you know, there's your two superstars,
• 34:20
  Speaker 12: and what production are we getting out of them? So
• 34:23
  Speaker 12: the talent is way better than the production. You're not
• 34:27
  Speaker 12: getting it out of it, you know. I went to
• 34:28
  Speaker 12: the Seattle Games when they came down to Miami just
• 34:32
  Speaker 12: before the All Star break, and they just look flat,
• 34:35
  Speaker 12: and I was like, what is going on with this team?
• 34:37
  Speaker 12: It kind of reminded me of the Phillies in Red
• 34:39
  Speaker 12: Sox in early April, like you see all this talent,
• 34:41
  Speaker 12: but it's like, what are you guys doing? So I'm
• 34:44
  Speaker 12: hoping that this recent kind of winning streak here three
• 34:48
  Speaker 12: wins in a row. I hope that's the beginning of
• 34:50
  Speaker 12: a run here because Seattle is way better than how
• 34:53
  Speaker 12: they're playing. But I do think you need another bat,
• 34:55
  Speaker 12: and I'll stand by that. I think you got to
• 34:58
  Speaker 12: go get one.
• 34:59
  Speaker 7: One bat you did trade in your article is Hunter Goodman. Now,
• 35:03
  Speaker 7: obviously we have Kyl Raley, but I don't know if
• 35:07
  Speaker 7: Hunter Goodman. I mean, he's a bat. We do have
• 35:12
  Speaker 7: a DH spot in this league right now. Is there
• 35:15
  Speaker 7: any reason that you can come up with that? If
• 35:18
  Speaker 7: he's the best bat on the market and we've got
• 35:21
  Speaker 7: trade capital, is there a fit there for the Mariners
• 35:25
  Speaker 7: and Hunter Goodman, who you have going to the Boston
• 35:27
  Speaker 7: Red Sox right now?
• 35:29
  Speaker 5: Sure? Absolutely, I would love Goodman.
• 35:32
  Speaker 12: And you know you can have Rally catch five and
• 35:35
  Speaker 12: Goodman catch two, right or something like that, and with
• 35:38
  Speaker 12: the other one DH. Yeah, I'm definitely a fan of Goodman.
• 35:41
  Speaker 12: I love the power. He's not a course field hitter.
• 35:44
  Speaker 12: The power is going to translate outside of course. And yeah,
• 35:47
  Speaker 12: I think you.
• 35:48
  Speaker 5: Would be a real solid trade target for them. I
• 35:50
  Speaker 5: do like that.
• 35:51
  Speaker 12: Yes, I don't know how Goodman would react. You know,
• 35:55
  Speaker 12: here's a guy that's an everyday catcher being told that
• 35:57
  Speaker 12: you're a DH.
• 35:58
  Speaker 5: Now. I don't know how that plays, And that's something
• 36:00
  Speaker 5: you have to at least bake into your decision.
• 36:03
  Speaker 12: The cost obviously is going to be huge, and it's
• 36:06
  Speaker 12: going to probably cost you, Kate Anderson to have the conversation.
• 36:09
  Speaker 5: Oh boy, oh.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: Boy, yeah yeah yeah, oh yeah. He just made me
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: sweat a little bunch sitting there right in my own
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: arm pits. Yeah there, Jim, Yeah, yep.
• 36:19
  Speaker 12: And I wouldn't do that, by the way, I wouldn't
• 36:21
  Speaker 12: trade Kate Anderson too.
• 36:22
  Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I'm with you, all right, We'll pass on
• 36:24
  Speaker 7: Goodman then, but you do have him going to Boston,
• 36:27
  Speaker 7: I mean makes sense of that story here. We were
• 36:30
  Speaker 7: a couple of weeks ago trying to figure out, I mean,
• 36:32
  Speaker 7: do we want Wilson Contreras possibly as a right handed.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: Hitter for this lineup?
• 36:38
  Speaker 7: Would you take on the headache that is Wilson Contreras
• 36:41
  Speaker 7: and what he can be sometimes and what does he do?
• 36:45
  Speaker 7: His brand of leadership has led them on a fourteen
• 36:47
  Speaker 7: game winning streak and they're sitting there as hot as anybody,
• 36:51
  Speaker 7: the hottest team in Major League Baseball right now. So
• 36:54
  Speaker 7: they've kind of gone in a very short order from
• 36:56
  Speaker 7: what looked to be a surefire seller to a surefire
• 36:59
  Speaker 7: buyer right now.
• 37:00
  Speaker 5: Jim, Yeah, I mean yeah. A month ago we were
• 37:03
  Speaker 5: talking about.
• 37:04
  Speaker 12: Sonny Gray and Wilson Go and Farris and rolled As
• 37:07
  Speaker 12: Chapman all being traded, and in fact, Craig Breslo the
• 37:10
  Speaker 12: GM according to reports that I have not confirmed, but
• 37:14
  Speaker 12: According to reports, he had a roll this Chatman traded
• 37:16
  Speaker 12: to the White Sox for a top prospect and the
• 37:19
  Speaker 12: Red Sox ownership nixed the deal. That's how close they
• 37:22
  Speaker 12: were to being sellers. Wow, they literally had an agreement.
• 37:25
  Speaker 12: But now we sit they've won fourteen in a row.
• 37:28
  Speaker 12: They're buying, they're not selling. They're trying to get a
• 37:31
  Speaker 12: bat And I don't know, I don't know if I
• 37:32
  Speaker 12: would do anything right now the way they're playing. I mean,
• 37:35
  Speaker 12: they have just been on fire. And I've never seen
• 37:37
  Speaker 12: Fenway Park this exciting since the last time they were
• 37:39
  Speaker 12: in the playoffs.
• 37:40
  Speaker 5: Like, the is an.
• 37:42
  Speaker 12: Amazing energy going on right now at Fenway Park. They
• 37:45
  Speaker 12: just can't seem to lose a game. And so you know,
• 37:48
  Speaker 12: the last time they won fourteen in a row is
• 37:50
  Speaker 12: nineteen forty eight. Nineteen forty eight. I mean, that's just
• 37:53
  Speaker 12: it's remarkable what this team has been doing under Chad Tracy.
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: Jim Bowden is with us. And I'll just close with this.
• 38:00
  Speaker 7: Rather than kick the tires on another possible trade or
• 38:03
  Speaker 7: trade piece, I would just ask you from your years
• 38:06
  Speaker 7: of pulling off trades and getting close to the deadline,
• 38:10
  Speaker 7: and it's such a crazy year. How difficult is that decision?
• 38:14
  Speaker 7: You know, you've got this deadline looming where you have
• 38:16
  Speaker 7: to decide as a general manager whether or not you're
• 38:19
  Speaker 7: gonna go for it or if you're gonna punt. And
• 38:22
  Speaker 7: just because you do punt, I mean, look at the
• 38:24
  Speaker 7: Tigers a year ago.
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: What they did.
• 38:28
  Speaker 7: They decided to punt and they still ended up nearly
• 38:32
  Speaker 7: going to the World Series for goodness sake.
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: So just talk about the decision.
• 38:37
  Speaker 7: How difficult, gut wrenching it is organizationally to try to
• 38:42
  Speaker 7: determine whether or not it's time to sell or buy
• 38:45
  Speaker 7: at this time.
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: Of the year.
• 38:47
  Speaker 12: Yeah, it's a great question, and I'm going to tell
• 38:49
  Speaker 12: you that for me, it was never agonizing and it
• 38:53
  Speaker 12: was never difficult. You know, my mentors that I looked
• 38:56
  Speaker 12: up to in my era were too Hall of Fame
• 39:00
  Speaker 12: executives Pat Gillick and John Schucholtz. Those are the two
• 39:04
  Speaker 12: that when I was growing up in the game that
• 39:07
  Speaker 12: I studied and watched, and both of them, you know,
• 39:11
  Speaker 12: taught me not to ever get emotional in making decisions
• 39:14
  Speaker 12: and always have a pulse of what your team is
• 39:17
  Speaker 12: and be realistic, don't get emotional. The two weeks before
• 39:21
  Speaker 12: the trade deadline. If your team gets in a winning
• 39:23
  Speaker 12: streak or a losing streak, you should know what your
• 39:26
  Speaker 12: team is. You should know if your team is better
• 39:29
  Speaker 12: than your record or worse than your record. You should
• 39:31
  Speaker 12: know what your team is capable of doing between now
• 39:35
  Speaker 12: and the end of the season. You shouldn't be having
• 39:37
  Speaker 12: to watch the games the last two weeks of the
• 39:40
  Speaker 12: trade deadline to make those decisions. You just shouldn't. You
• 39:43
  Speaker 12: should know what to do or what not to do.
• 39:47
  Speaker 12: So I guess that's how I would respond to you,
• 39:49
  Speaker 12: Like if you're in Seattle's case, I can tell you
• 39:52
  Speaker 12: that is the best team in the AO West and
• 39:54
  Speaker 12: they will win the.
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: Division if they do nothing. Now do I look at.
• 39:58
  Speaker 12: This team and say what I like right hand bat
• 40:01
  Speaker 12: and a reliever like Jerry Depoto has already said publicly,
• 40:05
  Speaker 12: including on.
• 40:05
  Speaker 5: My radio show.
• 40:06
  Speaker 12: Yes, I would agree with him completely. And that's what
• 40:09
  Speaker 12: I would be trying to buy if I was Seattle,
• 40:11
  Speaker 12: if I was Detroit, I would be realistic. I'm not
• 40:14
  Speaker 12: winning the World Series regardless of what happens the rest
• 40:17
  Speaker 12: of the way. I'm not going to get emotional and
• 40:19
  Speaker 12: I'm not gonna lect Errek schooble walk for a draft pick,
• 40:22
  Speaker 12: I am trading the player. So if I win five
• 40:25
  Speaker 12: in a row right now and I get within a
• 40:27
  Speaker 12: game of the playoffs, I am trading the player because
• 40:31
  Speaker 12: that's not emotional. I know what my team is. I'm
• 40:35
  Speaker 12: gonna be realistic and I'm going to understand that I'm
• 40:38
  Speaker 12: here to be the steward of the franchise, not to
• 40:41
  Speaker 12: win in any specific year, but to be here for
• 40:44
  Speaker 12: the long term. And to be there for the long term.
• 40:46
  Speaker 12: You got to win this year and next year and
• 40:48
  Speaker 12: the year after, so make your decisions based on that,
• 40:51
  Speaker 12: not based on a two week time period.
• 40:54
  Speaker 7: Love it, Love it. Thank you, Sarah. We appreciate it.
• 40:56
  Speaker 7: Enjoy the holiday, and it's always great. Top with you.
• 41:02
  Speaker 5: Thanks Jack, appreciate it all right.
• 41:03
  Speaker 7: Jim Bowden joining us right here on the radio program here.
• 41:07
  Speaker 7: You can follow him at Jim Bowden GM and he's
• 41:10
  Speaker 7: got that brand new article out with The Athletic, which
• 41:14
  Speaker 7: is the five trades he'd like to see. I didn't
• 41:16
  Speaker 7: want to give him all away, so you can go
• 41:18
  Speaker 7: do some reading read up on Jim Boden. But I
• 41:21
  Speaker 7: actually did like his response because I hate the George
• 41:24
  Speaker 7: Kirby trade that he put together with the San Francisco Giants.
• 41:27
  Speaker 7: But at least it made sense when he said, he goes, yeah,
• 41:31
  Speaker 7: I think that the Mariners aren't getting the better of
• 41:34
  Speaker 7: this trade. But does it mean that you become a
• 41:38
  Speaker 7: better team right now because you filled in your holes
• 41:42
  Speaker 7: and you have starting pitching depth. Okay, okay, I can
• 41:45
  Speaker 7: at least I understand where you're coming from. I still
• 41:48
  Speaker 7: don't make that move. I still want to win the trade.
• 41:51
  Speaker 7: I still don't want to just rely. I mean, because
• 41:55
  Speaker 7: Casey Schmidt comes over here and gets hurt and then
• 41:57
  Speaker 7: all of a sudden.
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: You know we lost a trade.
• 42:01
  Speaker 7: We knew we lost the trade in the big picture
• 42:04
  Speaker 7: for this guy that satisfies this one specific need that
• 42:09
  Speaker 7: we have, and now he's not available to us, or
• 42:12
  Speaker 7: he magically like every other hitter that comes here that
• 42:15
  Speaker 7: apparently dominates left handers and can't hit a lick. We've
• 42:19
  Speaker 7: given up George Kirby for that. If Casey Schmid had
• 42:22
  Speaker 7: a little better of a track record as a hitter
• 42:25
  Speaker 7: in Major League baseball, maybe I'd be more interested. But
• 42:28
  Speaker 7: this is the first time he's ever come close to
• 42:30
  Speaker 7: solving major league hitting or Major League pitching this season,
• 42:34
  Speaker 7: and that's one that I'm just not interested in.
• 42:36
  Speaker 8: No, I don't like it either, And especially I don't
• 42:38
  Speaker 8: even like the idea of losing the trade just to.
• 42:41
  Speaker 6: Make us better.
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 42:42
  Speaker 8: I know that I would have to consider it, but
• 42:44
  Speaker 8: I don't like the idea of that. I want to
• 42:46
  Speaker 8: win a trade to be better. Now, how about that.
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: I think we can have both.
• 42:49
  Speaker 7: I think we can. I think we can win a trade.
• 42:51
  Speaker 7: I mean, you know, you want to give them something
• 42:53
  Speaker 7: that helps them. That's a good trade when it benefits
• 42:56
  Speaker 7: both teams. Right, that's fine. I don't have to just
• 43:00
  Speaker 7: thingly win the trade, but I yeah, I not only
• 43:03
  Speaker 7: want to get better this.
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: Year, but I also want to win the trade.
• 43:07
  Speaker 7: So I appreciate Jim Bode always interesting, always fascinating stuff there.
• 43:12
  Speaker 7: Hadn't even considered Hunter Goodman until we started having a
• 43:15
  Speaker 7: conversation there. So we'll talk more about that a little
• 43:18
  Speaker 7: bit later on in the show. But coming up next
• 43:20
  Speaker 7: we're four days still training camp, and it's time to
• 43:22
  Speaker 7: start having those conversations we're going to be having for
• 43:26
  Speaker 7: the next five weeks. Sports Radio ninety three point three
• 43:29
  Speaker 7: KJRFM Holy Grail of theme songs this like right up there,
• 43:34
  Speaker 7: like it just as goes so well with the show,
• 43:37
  Speaker 7: and you hear it in the other room and you're like, oh,
• 43:40
  Speaker 7: our Knocks is on. And there was a time where
• 43:43
  Speaker 7: I was really fired up about Hard Knocks. I would
• 43:45
  Speaker 7: all really look forward to it. It's been a few
• 43:46
  Speaker 7: years since I really looked forward to it. But now
• 43:49
  Speaker 7: that it is going to become daily fodder now daily
• 43:53
  Speaker 7: weekly fodder for us to kind of pick apart and
• 43:56
  Speaker 7: pour over certainly after every episode the morning after.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that music's gonna mean more to us.
• 44:03
  Speaker 8: I would say even daily though, because as you guys
• 44:05
  Speaker 8: are out at training camp, it's going to be something
• 44:08
  Speaker 8: different for you guys to see. Like I'm excited, and
• 44:11
  Speaker 8: I know that Eve and I are going to become
• 44:13
  Speaker 8: best friends.
• 44:13
  Speaker 6: I know I can't wait for that. It's gonna be amazing.
• 44:16
  Speaker 8: I know that people are nervous about it, and I
• 44:19
  Speaker 8: can understand that you never know how it's going to
• 44:21
  Speaker 8: affect the team or what kind of distraction it might cause.
• 44:25
  Speaker 8: But I just have so much faith in John Schneider
• 44:27
  Speaker 8: and Mike McDonald and what they've put together that I
• 44:29
  Speaker 8: don't think that they're going to let it become a distraction,
• 44:32
  Speaker 8: and I'm real excited to see some behind the scenes stuff.
• 44:35
  Speaker 7: Well I'm unfortunately that's one of the reasons why it's
• 44:38
  Speaker 7: kind of faded because it's so controlled now, like the
• 44:40
  Speaker 7: team's like, Nope, you're not gonna air that, and so
• 44:42
  Speaker 7: they don't.
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: Air that, and so it's going to be controlled. It
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: has been controlled.
• 44:48
  Speaker 7: It's not as interesting as it used to be, but
• 44:51
  Speaker 7: it will be more interesting now because it's going to
• 44:54
  Speaker 7: be a look at the Seahawks like we've never seen
• 44:57
  Speaker 7: before and been able to discuss the next day. So
• 45:00
  Speaker 7: from a content standpoint, yeah, one hundred percent thumbs up.
• 45:04
  Speaker 7: Very excited for it and to break it down and
• 45:07
  Speaker 7: talk about it all the different storylines that we normally
• 45:10
  Speaker 7: wouldn't even be privy to at training camp because we
• 45:13
  Speaker 7: don't have that kind of access. We don't even get
• 45:15
  Speaker 7: that kind of access, not even close to be able
• 45:18
  Speaker 7: to have that. That's great, and I don't think because
• 45:21
  Speaker 7: it is tamer than it it's ever been in the past,
• 45:23
  Speaker 7: that it's going to cause any kind of wobble or distraction.
• 45:26
  Speaker 7: For they might be distracted, like Mike McDonald may not
• 45:30
  Speaker 7: like that he's in a meeting and that there are televisions, right,
• 45:33
  Speaker 7: it could be a slight distraction, but I don't think.
• 45:36
  Speaker 7: I mean, when's the last time anything from Hard Knocks
• 45:39
  Speaker 7: actually caused any kind of drama. I don't remember the
• 45:43
  Speaker 7: last time. It doesn't even register. Well, the last time
• 45:46
  Speaker 7: it did was when Rex Ryan admitted that he likes
• 45:50
  Speaker 7: to kiss his wife's feet. That was like the last
• 45:53
  Speaker 7: time that actually permeated through the training camp. Yeah, yeah,
• 45:59
  Speaker 7: she had a to a Mark Sanchez and all that stuff.
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: That was like the last time. And how long ago
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: was that?
• 46:04
  Speaker 6: Twelve years, a long time ago, A long time ago.
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: Before Sanchez was in jail.
• 46:09
  Speaker 6: Oh God, I forgot. I didn't really forget about that.
• 46:11
  Speaker 8: I think the thing too is, I mean this this
• 46:14
  Speaker 8: team is used to having cameras around there, so they're
• 46:16
  Speaker 8: not going to be worried about the cameras. Is it
• 46:18
  Speaker 8: going to add a little extra something when they're chatting
• 46:20
  Speaker 8: or things like that. Maybe, But yeah, it might be
• 46:23
  Speaker 8: the bigger distraction for the coaches in the meetings and
• 46:26
  Speaker 8: things like that.
• 46:26
  Speaker 6: And I'm not too worried about that either.
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they'll handle it. They'll handle it.
• 46:30
  Speaker 7: It's not it certainly is not going to be the
• 46:32
  Speaker 7: difference between whether or not we went opening week, or
• 46:36
  Speaker 7: we win the West or not, or repeat a Super
• 46:39
  Speaker 7: Bowl champs. No, it's not going to make the difference,
• 46:41
  Speaker 7: that's for sure. At least it better not.
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: But people are already having the conversations.
• 46:48
  Speaker 7: And this week as we get ready for training camp
• 46:50
  Speaker 7: and our coverage is going to start on Monday, and
• 46:52
  Speaker 7: it sounds like Hugh Mellon's going to be back to
• 46:55
  Speaker 7: like full time, not full time, but you know, next
• 46:59
  Speaker 7: next week we might him for all four hours of
• 47:02
  Speaker 7: the show on Monday, so like we used to do
• 47:06
  Speaker 7: back in the old days. So that's a possibility for
• 47:09
  Speaker 7: our coverage on Monday. It looks like that's going to happen.
• 47:13
  Speaker 7: But certainly, we have things that we do every training
• 47:16
  Speaker 7: camp here on this show. We have our talk of camp,
• 47:20
  Speaker 7: and we've got camp battles that we do on a
• 47:22
  Speaker 7: daily basis. And this year we're gonna have the Hard
• 47:25
  Speaker 7: Knocks thing that we will also be weaving in to
• 47:30
  Speaker 7: our programming. And people have already started to get ahead
• 47:33
  Speaker 7: of it with who are going to be the stars
• 47:37
  Speaker 7: of Hard Knocks? And I saw that the local newspaper
• 47:41
  Speaker 7: did it. I know that Greg's already weighed in on
• 47:45
  Speaker 7: this that it's going to be Witherspoon. I mean the
• 47:48
  Speaker 7: names that keep coming up are Witherspoon and Barner and Donald.
• 47:53
  Speaker 6: I think those are three great choices.
• 47:55
  Speaker 7: And Donald because he's the quarterback, right, But Barner and
• 47:59
  Speaker 7: Spoon start and keep being brought up, so you can't
• 48:02
  Speaker 7: use one of those three. Okay, give me somebody that
• 48:05
  Speaker 7: you think is going to become a Hard Knocks star,
• 48:10
  Speaker 7: because it's not always based on how good a player
• 48:12
  Speaker 7: you are or how funny you are.
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: It's just sometimes just the story you have to tell,
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: or maybe it's your family's funny.
• 48:20
  Speaker 7: Now, you never know who they're going to follow around,
• 48:24
  Speaker 7: who they're gonna suddenly have interest in. So give me
• 48:27
  Speaker 7: somebody that you think is going to become a Hard
• 48:29
  Speaker 7: Knock star. And I haven't read anybody else's lists, Okay,
• 48:32
  Speaker 7: and I did that intentionally, So if I repeat what
• 48:35
  Speaker 7: they say and it's a given and it's obvious, I apologize.
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: But I wanted us to answer this question.
• 48:40
  Speaker 4: Role.
• 48:40
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm going with Ernest Jones.
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: Oh that's such a good one.
• 48:44
  Speaker 6: I think.
• 48:44
  Speaker 8: I mean, I think that they're going to people are
• 48:46
  Speaker 8: going to be drawn to him. He's very energetic. He
• 48:49
  Speaker 8: says whatever's on his mind. Yes, and he loves this
• 48:53
  Speaker 8: team and he and he loves the people on it
• 48:56
  Speaker 8: and he will fight for them. So I think people
• 48:59
  Speaker 8: are going to be drawn to him and really like him.
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: He has zero filter. Yeah, and if he does have
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: a filter.
• 49:04
  Speaker 7: Man, if he if he's sitting there to himself saying,
• 49:08
  Speaker 7: oh man, I wish I didn't.
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: Have this filter. What then? What are you?
• 49:11
  Speaker 7: Unfiltered? I love it, And there will be moments that
• 49:14
  Speaker 7: they'll be able to grab where he's unfiltered. I had
• 49:17
  Speaker 7: him as number two on my list, right who's number one?
• 49:20
  Speaker 7: I think that Ernest Jones is just I don't even
• 49:24
  Speaker 7: think HBO realizes how entertaining is. And it's not because
• 49:29
  Speaker 7: I think he's hilarious. I'm not not sure if that's
• 49:33
  Speaker 7: it or I think he's just so blunt, like whatever's
• 49:39
  Speaker 7: on his mind is coming out, and when cameras are
• 49:43
  Speaker 7: around the guy, they will gravitate towards the guy.
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: I would I think Gray's Abel's gonna end up being
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: a star in all this.
• 49:51
  Speaker 7: And maybe you wouldn't think that because you know, though
• 49:55
  Speaker 7: corn fed boy likes to chuck beer. Yeah, maybe he
• 49:59
  Speaker 7: would avoid the cameras in the attention, but the way
• 50:01
  Speaker 7: he's already talking about the rams he's been. If I'm
• 50:07
  Speaker 7: the Seahawks, I might even actually talk to Gray like, well,
• 50:09
  Speaker 7: let's let's turn that back. Yeah, I mean, they're gonna
• 50:12
  Speaker 7: be tough enough to beat. Let's not add any more
• 50:15
  Speaker 7: sauce to this.
• 50:16
  Speaker 6: We don't need to rile him up.
• 50:17
  Speaker 7: But he's, i mean a year into this feeling pretty swaggery,
• 50:22
  Speaker 7: pretty confident right now.
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: And he's got that very interesting story.
• 50:26
  Speaker 7: And I think that there is it's not just about
• 50:29
  Speaker 7: the funny guy or the glamorous.
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: Guy with hard knocks.
• 50:33
  Speaker 7: Sometimes it is the guy that is just the lunch
• 50:36
  Speaker 7: pale I will crush a beer can on my head
• 50:40
  Speaker 7: when I'm done with it kind of guy. And I
• 50:42
  Speaker 7: think the cameras are gonna love Gray's abel in his story.
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: I think so.
• 50:45
  Speaker 8: I mean, and he does just have a kind of
• 50:48
  Speaker 8: just a nice seems like a nice guy, seems like
• 50:50
  Speaker 8: someone that you'd want to hang out with. And I
• 50:52
  Speaker 8: think that people draw get drawn into that when they're
• 50:55
  Speaker 8: watching that show, especially like, oh, that guy just seems
• 50:57
  Speaker 8: like a good dude.
• 50:58
  Speaker 7: Yeah, Brady Russ is hilarious. Don't sleep on Brady Russell.
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: He is just.
• 51:04
  Speaker 7: Really fun to talk to, Like there's just something interesting
• 51:09
  Speaker 7: about that guy, way beyond his ponytail. Yeah, there's just there.
• 51:14
  Speaker 7: He's smart and he's funny and he's aware of everything.
• 51:18
  Speaker 7: I think he could emerge. I think they might end
• 51:21
  Speaker 7: up falling in love with him.
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: Jaron Reid.
• 51:24
  Speaker 7: This just depends on how out in the open Jaron
• 51:27
  Speaker 7: Reid wants to be. But he went from shy rookie.
• 51:31
  Speaker 7: When I was here and we introduced him to the airwaves,
• 51:35
  Speaker 7: I think I think we had him on first here
• 51:38
  Speaker 7: KJR shy rookie, didn't wasn't sure he wanted to do
• 51:42
  Speaker 7: an interview, And now he's like the most talkative guy
• 51:45
  Speaker 7: in the entire league. So he could be he could
• 51:48
  Speaker 7: be a favorite. And then a lot of people point
• 51:51
  Speaker 7: to Bud Clark the rookie. But based on what I
• 51:54
  Speaker 7: heard on draft Ay, Julian Neil Julian Neal, Seahawks might
• 51:59
  Speaker 7: have to steer him away from the cameras. He just
• 52:01
  Speaker 7: really like he kind of gives me the impression that
• 52:05
  Speaker 7: he's like on stage, like he's Dave Chappelle, Like he
• 52:07
  Speaker 7: wants to put on a performance performance, So the Seahawks
• 52:11
  Speaker 7: might have to steer him away from the cameras, but
• 52:14
  Speaker 7: he might end up being a rather interesting person in
• 52:17
  Speaker 7: all of this as well.
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 52:18
  Speaker 8: Also, I would say Robbie Utz, and I don't know
• 52:20
  Speaker 8: if that's just because of the mustache that I think
• 52:22
  Speaker 8: that he's good.
• 52:23
  Speaker 6: He'd be entertaining, But I think people will be drawn
• 52:25
  Speaker 6: to the mustache.
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: Maybe it'll just be Robbi Utz's mustache.
• 52:28
  Speaker 8: It might be maybe and good for them, maybe for
• 52:31
  Speaker 8: him and his mustache.
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: Right, maybe the mustache should start an Instagram account.
• 52:36
  Speaker 6: It probably should.
• 52:37
  Speaker 7: Get out ahead of it. Maybe it should start dating
• 52:39
  Speaker 7: Kylie Jenner. She seems to get a lot of.
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: Attention she does.
• 52:42
  Speaker 8: But Timothy Shallomy might be mad. Yeah, lose out to
• 52:45
  Speaker 8: a mustache?
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well Challo Mays trying a mustache?
• 52:49
  Speaker 7: Yeah, imagine if Timothy Shallo May's mustache stood next to
• 52:53
  Speaker 7: Robbie Oot's mustache.
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: One, oh my gosh, he doesn't Which mustache would you
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: rather drink with?
• 53:00
  Speaker 8: Roddy Ootz is exactly obviously Who's mustache?
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: Do you want to have your back? Shalo mas or Ootzes?
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: It's exactly Oots all day? All right? Coming up?
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• 53:54
  Speaker 1: Let's give them some.
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: Bow, Let's give them off there to talk about. How
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: about love, love, love love all of us giving ight.
• 54:10
  Speaker 7: Ah, yes, uh, it is almost that time of the year.
• 54:14
  Speaker 7: Training camp gets underway on Saturday. Our coverage gets underway
• 54:19
  Speaker 7: Monday morning.
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: Right here at Sports Radio.
• 54:21
  Speaker 7: Ninety three point three kJ r FM. And some of
• 54:23
  Speaker 7: the staples that we've had in the past are the
• 54:27
  Speaker 7: your camp battles which will start next Monday. And also
• 54:31
  Speaker 7: talk of camp. I mean that is the conversation who's
• 54:34
  Speaker 7: the talk of camp, Who's the talk of camp?
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: Who's great in the buzz out there?
• 54:38
  Speaker 7: And so I think we've got to have a pre
• 54:40
  Speaker 7: talk about talk of camp, pre talk talk pre talk
• 54:45
  Speaker 7: about who's the talk of camp.
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't just show up and then just assess
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: the landscape and then figure out talking. You gotta have
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: an idea of who you think is going to be
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: the talk of camp is.
• 54:56
  Speaker 8: Then you have to then you know if you're right
• 54:57
  Speaker 8: or wrong. What's the point of just going and then
• 55:00
  Speaker 8: being like, Wow, that's the person that ended up being
• 55:02
  Speaker 8: the talk of camp. Interesting, it's a little bit of
• 55:04
  Speaker 8: a game that you can play.
• 55:05
  Speaker 7: Was I right about who the talk of camp was?
• 55:07
  Speaker 7: And then maybe you get surprised because you didn't see that.
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: You know, boy, what a plot twist. Challenge yourself people,
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: it turns out that it's not Charles Cross.
• 55:17
  Speaker 7: The talk of camp is actually Tyle Kotta what' So
• 55:23
  Speaker 7: it'll be a big conversation. Hu Milon's gonna be joining
• 55:26
  Speaker 7: us for a lot of our first week of training
• 55:27
  Speaker 7: camp from Virginia Mason Athletic Center starting on Monday. But
• 55:32
  Speaker 7: to consider this four day shy of training camp, uh
• 55:36
  Speaker 7: a little prefunk in trying to figure out who the
• 55:39
  Speaker 7: talk of camp is actually going to be. So let's
• 55:44
  Speaker 7: just throw some names out there. Who do you think, Ashley?
• 55:47
  Speaker 7: Who comes to mind? Who's going to dominate all of
• 55:50
  Speaker 7: the buzz, all of the conversation while we are trying
• 55:53
  Speaker 7: to broadcast from the Virginia Mason Athletic Center and enjoy
• 55:57
  Speaker 7: some splendid mornings in renting and yet the buzz of
• 56:00
  Speaker 7: this person is just going to overwhelm everything.
• 56:02
  Speaker 6: I mean, I think it's still gonna be NICKI man, worry.
• 56:05
  Speaker 8: Honestly, I just think people are so enamored with him
• 56:09
  Speaker 8: and he's such a presence, and then to be able
• 56:13
  Speaker 8: to see the different ways, you know, it'll be more
• 56:15
  Speaker 8: advanced in how they're using him in camp than it
• 56:17
  Speaker 8: was that this time last year.
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: Well that's fun.
• 56:20
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I think people are really gonna enjoy that and
• 56:22
  Speaker 8: they're not gonna be able to stop talking about him.
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think it's a great call. He was just
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: so good. I don't want to get caught.
• 56:31
  Speaker 7: I don't want to paint myself or anybody else into
• 56:34
  Speaker 7: the corner of just like being overhyped about him.
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't want to heap too many expectations. I mean,
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: if we get the exact same player that we got
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: a year ago, the Seahawks are laughing their way to
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: the bank in terms of the value they got out
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: of their second round draft pick two years ago.
• 56:55
  Speaker 7: So if he never even improves on year number one
• 57:01
  Speaker 7: and this is who we have, great, Yep, what a
• 57:05
  Speaker 7: coup man. We pulled up a fast one on the
• 57:08
  Speaker 7: rest of the National Football League. But there is such
• 57:13
  Speaker 7: potential with this guy, Like there's part of me and
• 57:17
  Speaker 7: I don't even want to put it on in the universe,
• 57:19
  Speaker 7: Like he's just kind of scratching the surface. I think
• 57:22
  Speaker 7: first year was him figuring out the league, figuring out
• 57:26
  Speaker 7: the most complicated defense in the league, figuring out a
• 57:31
  Speaker 7: position that was basically created for him. I mean, people
• 57:36
  Speaker 7: call him a safety. I've heard Greg refer to him
• 57:40
  Speaker 7: as a nickel, and Hugh insists he was nothing but
• 57:42
  Speaker 7: a Sam linebacker. It was a Sam linebacker, That's what
• 57:44
  Speaker 7: he was last year. Just a really freakishly athletic and
• 57:49
  Speaker 7: versatile one that Mike McDonald got to play Mike McDonald
• 57:55
  Speaker 7: things with, so they didn't even have really a position.
• 58:00
  Speaker 7: And then by the end of the year, and this
• 58:03
  Speaker 7: was another just fantastic thing about him. It was he
• 58:07
  Speaker 7: that said that God on Reek Wolland's ass, which I
• 58:12
  Speaker 7: loved about him. So this isn't just somebody that is like, hey,
• 58:16
  Speaker 7: I've taken the league a little bit by storm. People
• 58:20
  Speaker 7: are talking about me all over the place. This is
• 58:22
  Speaker 7: somebody that is like, no, this is about team first.
• 58:25
  Speaker 7: Oh man, there's just so much to like about nick
• 58:27
  Speaker 7: Emon Warri. And when you have the most creative defensive
• 58:31
  Speaker 7: mind in the galaxy, and you may have the most
• 58:34
  Speaker 7: creative defensive player, most versatile defensive player in the galaxy,
• 58:38
  Speaker 7: and you've had an entire offseason to work with him.
• 58:42
  Speaker 7: Now that he is stored up with knowledge, all the
• 58:45
  Speaker 7: knowledge that he gained, and you're not going to gain
• 58:46
  Speaker 7: any more knowledge than in your first year. That is
• 58:49
  Speaker 7: your greatest year of learning. And everybody says that the
• 58:53
  Speaker 7: biggest jump that a player will take is from year
• 58:56
  Speaker 7: number one.
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: To year number two. So how could I not be
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: over my ski tips about this guy? How am I?
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: How could I not be expecting the Moon and the
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: Stars from nickymun Worri this upcoming year. I can't wait
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: to see what this guy does.
• 59:10
  Speaker 8: Yeah, and I think that's fair to be overly excited
• 59:13
  Speaker 8: about him because he is that seems to be that
• 59:15
  Speaker 8: special of a player, that type of a player. And
• 59:18
  Speaker 8: I don't think that's he being too much expectation on
• 59:20
  Speaker 8: him because, as you said, I, if we saw what
• 59:23
  Speaker 8: we saw last year, we'd be happy. And if we
• 59:27
  Speaker 8: saw what we saw last year with a ten percent increase,
• 59:30
  Speaker 8: we'd be really happy. So it's not like someone's anyone's
• 59:34
  Speaker 8: going out there expecting him to win Defensive Player of
• 59:37
  Speaker 8: the Year in.
• 59:38
  Speaker 6: His second year. I am, okay, you might be, but.
• 59:41
  Speaker 8: I was gonna say, but I don't think it's fair.
• 59:44
  Speaker 8: I don't think it's unfair to say that's out of
• 59:47
  Speaker 8: the question, or that's not out of the question.
• 59:50
  Speaker 6: I think it's a real possibility.
• 59:51
  Speaker 7: Yeah, Well, he's certainly going to create buzz. There'll be
• 59:56
  Speaker 7: some things that you know, we'll be we won't be
• 59:59
  Speaker 7: allowed to even disc us as he's getting ready for
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 7: you know, as we see practices and we're not even
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 7: gonna be able to put out there. But for there's
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 7: no doubt he's going to create buzz. Yeah, I'll put
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 7: in the in a similar category.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: As my choice.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 7: And we've already talked about him a little bit this
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 7: morning a J Barner, And here's why. Not only do
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 7: I think he's coming off a really good year and
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 7: he did take that rookie to second season big jump,
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 7: more playing time, more exposure, better understanding of the game. Obviously,
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 7: we used him in short yardage, which was and he
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 7: was highly effective. He was highly He was effective in
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 7: quarterback sneaks as Jalen Hurts was in the world famous
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 7: push push like percentage wise, he was that good. So
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 7: we saw him take a big step forward. But what
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 7: is gonna happen with this new offensive course coordinator who
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 7: pretty much helped build George Kittle like he is the
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 7: coach maybe most responsible for George Kittle's development in San Francisco,
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 7: And even if he doesn't get credit for that, he's
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 7: certainly somebody that has observed how it gets done, how
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 7: somebody goes from an undersized, you know, second day pick
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 7: out of Iowa and becomes the most complete tight end
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 7: in the National Football League. Now because of his aggressive play,
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 7: George Kittle might be done I really do believe that.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 7: But this is somebody that had a up close view,
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 7: certainly had a hand in it. And now that he's
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 7: taking over the reins for Clint Kubiak as offensive coordinator,
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 7: I'm talking about Brian Florey. What is that going to
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 7: mean for Aj Barner? What's it going to mean for
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 7: the offense? This offense will probably suffer in a couple
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 7: of areas in this transition. Like Kubiak was fantastic, and
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 7: so we're probably are I think it's I think it's
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 7: gullible naive to think that you lose a successful offensive
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 7: coordinator and you might not lose a thing.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: Or two that really worked about that.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 7: Yeah, it's not going to be the same guy might
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 7: not have the same pulse of the team just yet.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 7: But they are also going to be a couple of
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 7: things that you're going to gain in that exchange. And
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 7: my guess is that what you're going to gain in
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 7: the exchange is Aj Barner learning from the guy that
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 7: helped George Kittle become George Kittle and Barner taking on
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 7: a few of those traits. I think Aj Barner could
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 7: create a lot of buzz. I think he was on
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 7: the fast track to becoming a Pro Bowl tight end
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 7: to begin with, and now that he has Flory that
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 7: ace in the hole working with him, I think AJ
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 7: Barner is going to create an awful lot of excitement,
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 7: not just in camp, but I think the fantasy football
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 7: market is going to come alive for AJ Barner. I
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 7: think he's going to be a sizzling name leading up
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 7: to fantasy football drafts.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 8: I think he's an exciting player to watch. It was
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 8: fun to see how they were able to use him
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 8: last year. And yeah, there will be changes. I think
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 8: we'll see differences, but I don't think the Seahawks would
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 8: have gone from one offensive coordinator to somebody that's so
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 8: drastically different that everybody has to no, no, we're not
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 8: running the run and shoot right exactly. So I think
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 8: those changes will be minimal. Take a couple of games
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 8: to kind of get used.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 6: To, and we'll be off and running.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 7: So I'm excited, and I guarantee you he's even more
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 7: excited Aj Barner about what this season could bring for him.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 7: And now that he's like comfortable, so comfortable in his
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 7: own weird skin, that I think he's ready to embrace
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 7: stardom in the National Football League. I think Ian Farness
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 7: in our one series chose a good one and aj
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 7: Barner and I'm fast needed to see what he becomes
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 7: in year number three. All right, coming up next on
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 7: the program, We've got ABC's of the Ms for you,
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 7: which is going to include that audio that I've been
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 7: teasing throughout the morning from Logan Gilbert what he said
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 7: about Dan Wilson on Softy's show yesterday and what's that
• 1:04:15
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• 1:04:19
  Speaker 7: T is four Tie Ashley. Have you seen what ty
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 7: France has become this year for the San Diego Padres?
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 6: I saw, didn't he?
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 12: He?
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 8: I saw he had a game winning hit or a
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 8: what do you do something over the weekend that was
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 8: a big deal.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 6: But he's been playing really well for them, right.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: Ty France has.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 7: Hit fifteen home runs this season in a part time role,
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 7: has a two seventy nine batting average, a five fifty
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 7: slug and an eight eighty seven ops. Now wow, let
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 7: me just if you don't follow numbers like that, let
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 7: me compare it to the last time Ty France wore
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 7: a Mariner uniform when he was cut in twenty twenty
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 7: four from this team and very I mean, that's a
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 7: difficult time for a lot of people, particularly high. He
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 7: was hitting two twenty three for US.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 6: Wow, and he's itt in what now.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: Two seventy nine.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 7: He had a three fifty slug for US, a five
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 7: fifty slug this year for the Padres. He had a
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 7: six sixty two ops for US. He has an eight
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 7: eighty seven ops for the San Diego Padres. And this
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 7: is two years aged, yeah, from when he was here
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 7: last with the Seattle Mariners. I mean, there weren't many
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 7: Mariner fans that didn't like ty Franz, but what he became.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 7: He became a liability offensively for this team. Not only
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 7: was he not producing, but he was just continuously hitting
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 7: into double plays. And even though he was one of
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 7: my favorite players, he dated my fake daughter got married
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 7: to or.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 6: For goodness sake, beautiful fake wedding.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: Right, he had to go. At the time.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 7: There was no way you could justify keeping him in
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 7: the lineup. And we since have Josh Naylor at first base.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 7: But we weren't wrong. Ty France should be better than
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 7: he was playing for the Mariners. At the end of
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 7: his tenure here and he's bounced around to like three
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 7: different teams since he left in two years, four different teams.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 7: Back with the Padres this year, and he is hitting
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 7: the crap out of the ball.
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  Speaker 8: Oh good for him, because I do agree. I think
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 8: everybody wanted him to do well. We wish he could
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 8: have kept doing well for us. I'm glad he's doing
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 8: well for somebody.
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  Speaker 7: I thought he was toast. I mean I just thought
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 7: he was done. I mean some athletes do that. He's
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 7: not the best athlete in the world, Like in terms
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 7: of his athleticism. He just to me when he first
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 7: got here him like, this guy knows how to hit.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 7: And we had some really good years with ty Franz
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 7: at first base. But something happened to him. He just
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 7: fell apart. And I don't know if it was the
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 7: Bran Brown, you know, experiment, experience, and then right back
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 7: to another different hitting instructor. That maybe he was being
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 7: torn in two between philosophies. I don't know, but he
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 7: couldn't You couldn't justify keeping him on this team in
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 7: twenty twenty four. But he is proving this year that
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 7: he had a lot left in the tank. He is
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 7: playing outstanding baseball. You was for unthinkable. I still just
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 7: can't come up with a reason why Dan was justified
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 7: last night in taking out George Kirby. He said afterwards,
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 7: it just felt like a good time. He had had
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 7: a long layoff.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: That isn't the long layoff.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 7: Wasn't that The point of that is to get stronger
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 7: and not to like to skip a week like didn't
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 7: They all have long layoffs, and they had the exact
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 7: same amount of time, and yet he doesn't look like
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 7: he was suffering at all. We didn't have our bullpen,
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 7: we didn't have any of our four high leverage guys.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: I realized Ferrera was.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 7: Up and they would have used him in a short inning,
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 7: I guarantee you, but we were gonna close that thing
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 7: out with Cole Wilcox and Michael Rucker again last night,
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 7: up one to nothing because George Kirby came out of
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 7: the game in the sixth, we had nine outs to
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 7: get with our fifth, sixth, then seventh best relievers trying
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 7: to close it out. I know I should be celebrating
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 7: three straight wins, but I even go back to Friday
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 7: and the for rare decision to replace Bryce Miller. I mean,
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 7: what did we use that time all for, if not
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 7: to reflect on the things we might be we could
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 7: do better going forward, to be able to be in
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 7: that situation. And you know, you don't have your bullpen,
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 7: and you take out a guy that's on top of
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 7: his game and not showing any signs of fatigue whatsoever
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 7: and remove him when he probably could have given you
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 7: at least one more inning and maybe two.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: It's unthinkable to me, just is.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 8: Yeah, And it worries me just to think, Okay, so
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 8: because he had a long layoff, the same amount of
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 8: time as anybody else except I guess he got moved
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 8: back a little bit. But so are we gonna do
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 8: that with everyone after eighty pitches, no matter how good
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 8: or bad you are, I guess, but I don't know.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 8: I didn't understand it. It was odd to me, Yeah,
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 8: and I was hoping that there were some right, bigger
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 8: explanation for it.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: I was over his first thing. First thought was I
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: hope it was not an injury. Right. Then the second
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: thought was did he just get traded?
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 7: Because this happens this time of the year, when guys
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 7: get pulled from a game inexplicably, You're like, oh, my gosh,
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 7: George Kurbas just got traded.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: It crossed my mind last night.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 7: Yeah, and to find out, no, we thought he'd given
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 7: us enough up one to nothing with none of our
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 7: four high leverage guys available to us.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 6: Eighty pitch is six strong, is what he said.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: I don't understand.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 7: Obviously, I've gained quite the reputation for questioning Dan Wilson's
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 7: managerial tactics on this station and beyond. But yesterday Logan
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 7: Gilbert showed up on Softy's radio program with some vas
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 7: for venom. He didn't want to hear anything about replacing
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 7: Dan Wilson.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 13: I always try to be pretty nice, but like if
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 13: people have I ever heard people say that that's probably
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 13: when I would get fired up. I think, I think
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 13: that's ridiculous that people what ever, say that Dan's one
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 13: of the best people I've ever met. I think he's
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 13: amazing at his job and what he does and the
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 13: way he gets us going. Like you know, nobody outside
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 13: of here knows what it's like in a locker room
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 13: with him. Only the players do. And I think every
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 13: single one of us would go to bat for him.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 13: So he's the man. I love playing under him. And
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 13: I hope he stays here forever.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 7: All right, Logan, you got fired up, He's gonna get
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 7: fired up on me.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 6: I like that though.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: I love it.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 8: And when we talked about this last week, and you
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 8: talked about this, and I said, I have no.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 6: Argument as to why he should stay.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 8: There's nothing I can say that would counter act what
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 8: you are saying, because I don't. I don't see where
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 8: there is a Where is there where there's a positive
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 8: thing for him to stay or a positive reason for
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 8: him to stay. Well, there's one right there. Well it's
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 8: Logan's gonna get fired up.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 7: Well, It's what I have been preaching throughout the course
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 7: of the season is when people say, well, what does
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 7: he bring to the table, He does bring stuff to
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 7: the table. They really like him, right, and they really
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 7: like playing for him and he has their back, and
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 7: that goes a long way with major league hitters. Here's
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 7: the problem. I do like that Logan's saying it. I
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 7: do like that Logan is telling us that the clubhouse
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 7: loves Dan Wilson, and that can be very valuable. But Logan,
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 7: I don't care if he's nice. Nice doesn't win championships.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 7: I know Dan Wilson's a nice guy, but if it's
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 7: if his being nice is keeping you guys from playing
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 7: with fire. Your best friend told us last night in
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 7: the press conference that this team has not been playing
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 7: like a team, which, above anything else, has to be
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 7: the manager's job and responsibility to get his team to
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 7: play as one. So I don't care if he's nice.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 7: Nice sometimes gets in the way, And maybe it has
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 7: because even though you all have his back, because he's
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 7: all had your back, maybe you're taking him for granted.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 7: You know you're not gonna get your ass chewed out
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 7: by Dan Wilson, so you play lacklusterly. Not logan, of course,
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 7: but some of the offensive players, the pitchers, seem to
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 7: bring it every single night. Pete Woodworth manages them more than.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: Dan Wilson does, by the way, So.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 7: Maybe nice has been the problem. And yeah, maybe everybody
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 7: would go to bat for him like he has for them,
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 7: but this is a results oriented business and maybe his
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 7: being nice is what's gotten in the way of you
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 7: guys gelling as a team. So I appreciate that he
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 7: defended him. I'm glad that he did. It's nice to
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 7: hear that our clubhouse loves him, and we want him
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 7: to stay. But you better start playing better. You better
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 7: start playing more focused baseball. Otherwise it's going to reflect
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 7: on that guy you just defended.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 8: Right, And that's the thing is if okay, So, if
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 8: he's not the problem, you want to defend him and
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 8: say that you you know, you'd get really angry with
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 8: anyone who says he should be out. All right, then
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 8: show us what it is that he can get out
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 8: of you guys, because we haven't seen it a ton
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 8: so far.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 7: All right, we'll ask Ryan about that next. Ryan Healey
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 7: will join us. A lot of things to discuss with him.
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  Speaker 1: Now, now look at him, look at him, Just relax.
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  Speaker 6: He's so excited.
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: There's radio, but I gotta see you today. A best?
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  Speaker 1: Is that a best to a little vast? Yeah? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: What do you think? Really good? What do you think
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: of the ensemble? Give me your honest feedback.
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  Speaker 14: Uh, for a Tuesday, I feel like it's a it's
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 14: a nine point two.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 11: Wow, you're really out there.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: I've never scored above a four point seven with you either.
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  Speaker 14: Have I I'm really careful what I want to say
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 14: be I'm worried that like you're wearing like some cargo
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 14: shorts and flip flops with it, and I can't see
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 14: that part of the screen. So I'm just gonna really
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 14: judge from like the collar line up, and that gets
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 14: a nine point two.
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  Speaker 7: You will be actually surprised to know that I have
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 7: a flattering srong on on underneath.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: Thank god it's radio and some b stocks.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 6: He looks super comfy though.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: And some you know, high black socks. You know that's
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: the ensemble beneath. Yeah, yeah, I like it. Well, good
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  Speaker 1: to see you.
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  Speaker 7: Ryan Heally is with us former Mariner now with Mariner's
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  Speaker 7: Television of course, and every Tuesday at nine o'clock we
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 7: talked some Mariner baseball with our guy Ryan, heay so
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 7: great to see and it's great to have you on
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 7: coming off a nice win like that. When Cal hits
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 7: a grand slam and George Pitch is great and the
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 7: bullpen decision that was made, you ended up not paying
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 7: for it because you blew open the game and the
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 7: bottom of the seventh. So there are a lot of
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 7: things to discuss, and most of them positive. What do
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 7: you think Cal's grand slam might have done for him
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 7: last night?
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 14: Well, if you watched his postgame interview, it definitely didn't
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 14: give him more facial expressions or you know, volume changes
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 14: in his voice, like he's just so even.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 11: Keeled and ego.
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 14: When he's run the bases, he's not fist pump and
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 14: he's not pounding his chest, he's not doing all these things.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 14: I almost felt like the team was more excited for
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 14: him than Cal was excited for himself. And I believe
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 14: it's because Cal has that internal expectation of himself like
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 14: that's that's my job, that's what I'm that's what I do,
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 14: that's what I've done my whole career, that's what I'm
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 14: supposed to do, and I'm gonna start doing that more,
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 14: at least that's what we're all watching and hoping for.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 14: But it was the moment where the game is essentially
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 14: challenging you to a duel, where you intentionally walked on
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 14: kNs on in front of you to load the bases
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 14: to get to the raginning you know, runner up MVP,
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 14: And that's something as a hitter that you take so personally,
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 14: and all of a sudden, the opposing dugout and the
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 14: opposing manager that made that decision becomes your arch nemesis
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 14: and you do everything in your power to make sure
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 14: you prove him wrong.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 11: And hence why he ambushed an.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 14: Oh well, breaking ball that was over the play, but
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 14: I doubt cal was based off the swing.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 11: Didn't look like Kyl was sitting on it.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 14: But for him to go up there and say, I'm
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 14: going to make a statement here, whether it was a
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 14: grand slam or a sack fly, or you an opportunity
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 14: to score the run, he did the best of the three,
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 14: get the Rye Bread out, and it's definitely Graham to
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 14: the lobby time.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, when you're struggling as much as he is,
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 7: and you're also even though you don't have a C
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 7: on your jersey, I mean he's kind of considered the leader,
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 7: the captain of the team. But how difficult is it
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 7: to take on captain respond when you feel like you're
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 7: not pulling your own weight?
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 14: Very And I've never been in this situation at the
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 14: majoring level. The Cow has been in regards to that
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 14: type of leader, but in different levels, definitely have been
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 14: that that caliber of player and leadership expectations. And I
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 14: think that if we relate this, so let's just say
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 14: a husband and a father, if you feel like you
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 14: are doing terrible at work or you just lost your job,
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 14: it's hard to come home and fulfill the responsibilities that
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 14: ultimately matter more of being a great husband and a
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 14: great father because you feel less than internally, you don't
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 14: feel like you are worthy of that leadership capability. So
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 14: if you're unable to lead yourself and have some symmetry
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 14: and cohesion between the other facets of your life, it's
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 14: hard to know execute on that. And that's not to
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 14: say the Cow hasn't had the effort, you know, moving
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 14: forward of being that leader, but I'm sure that day
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 14: to day responsibilities, it's hard to go walk up and
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 14: hold a guy accountable when you just punched out with
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 14: the bases loaded and you're back into buck sixty, it's
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 14: really hard to look someone in the eye. And I
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 14: know Cal can still do it and is still doing
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 14: it from pie to time, but I'm sure his awareness
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 14: of those moments isn't as high because he's in his
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 14: head circulating about what the last bat was.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 7: Well, let's tell you a little bit further. Let's theorize
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 7: about something. Because this team has not look like it's
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 7: played all that cohesively, and Cal admitted as much after
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 7: the game last night. But when Cal can't be Cal
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 7: because he's still trying to figure out how to hit again,
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 7: and JP's been demoted from shortstop to third base and
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 7: doesn't really feel like he's got that bright of a future,
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 7: and Luis Castillo is piggybacking and probably has seen the
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 7: riding on the wall that I'm the sixth best starter
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 7: around these here parts. Those are your three leaders, Ryan,
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 7: Does that maybe explain why this team has felt disjointed
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 7: this year? That when your three leaders aren't really they're
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 7: not exactly excelling, and so they're spending their time trying
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 7: to figure out how to contribute, stay in the lineup,
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 7: try to get going versus doing leadership things that help
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 7: keep the entire train on the tracks.
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 14: Chuck, I've known you for close to a year up
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 14: to this point, and I want to commend you because
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 14: that's one of the best points that I've ever heard
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 14: you make. And you make a lot of good points,
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 14: but that is one of the most valid internal kind
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 14: of interpretations of what's going on with the.
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 11: Mariners that I've heard.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 14: And I've thought of a little bit of that, but
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 14: not putting all the piecels together right there, And I
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 14: think that was a little bit mind blowing right there, Chuck,
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 14: And I.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 11: Agree with you. I couldn't agree more with you that
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 11: you know.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 14: Luis Castillo has been anointed by all of the younger
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 14: pitchers who have maybe had more success in him the
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 14: season as being the leader.
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 11: He's the rock.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 14: Cal Raley obviously is the leader of that team as
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 14: in its attirety, and and JP has been the longest
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 14: tendered Mariner, has been through a lot of cycles with
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 14: this with this ORGANI all three of those players have
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 14: dealt with a ton of uncertainty or individual lack of
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 14: consistent performance. So there's a good chance that there's some
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 14: disconnect between there and that's not by their fault. They
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 14: are humans, they are baseball players, and this game is
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 14: really hard. The timing of all three to go through
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 14: it at the same exact window, it's really unfortunate. And
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 14: when I think back about the Mariners when spring training started,
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 14: I remember being on site in Peoria early on a camp,
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 14: and then I was on site at the end of camp,
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 14: and there wasn't a bad thing that you could talk
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 14: about with this team, with this organization, with the way
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 14: this front office has crafted this lineup and this roster,
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 14: And now as the season goes on, everything is kind
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 14: of poking its ugly head up, like, oh my gosh,
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 14: how are so many things going wrong or potentially going right,
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 14: all in the same breath, and this team is still
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 14: flirting with five hundred. I think you just hit the
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 14: nail on the head of A reason why some of
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 14: that consistency hasn't shown up is because the leaders are
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 14: dealing with so much uncertainty individually that it's hard to
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 14: bring the group together on a daily basis.
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: It's such a crazy difficult game.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 7: I mean, I want to believe that in the last
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 7: two and a half days that maybe it got fixed,
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 7: but I'm also thinking about who your opponents are. You're
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 7: not exactly beating the best in the league these last
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 7: two and a half days.
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: And I'm thinking back, it didn't in June.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 7: Uh yeah, true. And I'm thinking back to that Saturday
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 7: where I mean, the it felt like the season was
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 7: dead and Cole Young hits that three run homer and
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 7: it resurrects, like everybody's Okay, maybe.
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: We got something going.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 7: And since that time, all you've done is one So
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 7: can I can anyone listening? Because baseball so hard, but
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 7: can we give ourselves a little bit this morning to
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 7: thinking that maybe it is on the right track.
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 14: Cal's postgame press conference last night, I think gave a
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 14: behind the curtains look at to what this team is evaluating.
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 14: And I know Dan Wilson talked a lot about wanting
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 14: this team to come back from the All Star Break
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 14: with energy and playing with that passion and you know,
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 14: doing the little things.
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: The right way.
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 14: And then game one half happens of the second half
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 14: and everyone goes, oh, no, here we go again. And
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 14: I say that confidently because I had that same thought
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 14: halfway through Game two against the Giants. You're thinking the
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 14: same thing, Logan Web is in cruise control, and then
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 14: Cole Young shows up with a two out, three run
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 14: home run that all of a sudden gave not just
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 14: that team, but that stadium and that the fan base life,
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 14: including myself, And they've been able to capitalize on some
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 14: of that momentum. And even last night, like the first
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 14: half of the game was a dismal offensive performance by
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 14: both sides and then all of a sudden, it blows
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 14: open and the eight to nothing score looks like it
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 14: was out of reach the whole time, but it wasn't
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 14: so for me. I don't get my hopes up much
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 14: for the future, and I guess if I'm speaking to
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 14: the Mariners fan base here, the future is irrelevant for
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 14: this club. The next ten days are going to be
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 14: really valuable for Major League Baseball and the Mariners of
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 14: what trades happened. And I think the way that the
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 14: Mariners team performs will dictate what direction the Mariners go
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 14: with their their trades and their moves or the deadline.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 14: But this is not a team that's out of it.
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 14: This is not a team that's been out of it
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 14: this entire season long. This is just a team that
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 14: hasn't played up to the expectations and looking at the
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 14: future is not going to help them stay more present
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 14: and execute what they need to today against a really
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 14: good army.
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 11: Chase Burns day.
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: At a time, the old day a time. That's the
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: only way.
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 11: You can sixty sixty one of these things left.
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 7: Ryan Healy is with us former Mariner now with the
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 7: Mariners TV, and we love having them on every Tuesday
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 7: to talk to Mariners Baseball here at nine o'clock, and
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 7: so Logan Gilbert yesterday. I don't know if you've heard
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 7: the dirt, but on Monday I called for a managerial change.
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 1: I went that far. I went that far. Feel free
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: to chastise me.
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 11: You're a series win you wanted a managerial change, huh?
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 1: I did what I saw.
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 7: The despondency that I saw on the looks of players
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 7: faces Friday night when the game was over, it just
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 7: was like, I don't know, I don't know if Dan's
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 7: reaching them.
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: But Logan Gilbert did.
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 7: Defend Dan yesterday on our airwaves. I want you to
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 7: listen to it and tell me what you think. Here's
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 7: Logan on with Softy talking about people like me should
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 7: shut our traps when.
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 13: It comes to Dan I always try to be pretty nice,
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 13: but like if people if I ever heard people say that,
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 13: that's probably when I would get fired up. I think,
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 13: I think that's ridiculous that people would ever say that.
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 13: Dan's one of the best people I've ever met. I
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 13: think he's amazing at his job and what he does
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 13: and the way he gets us going. Like you know,
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 13: nobody outside of here knows what it's like in a
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 13: locker room with him. Only the players do. And I
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 13: think every single one of us would go to bat
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 13: for him. So he's the man. I love playing under him,
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 13: and I hope he stays here forever.
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 7: Logan and gil defending his manager yesterday, what do you
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 7: make of that?
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 14: I mean, he didn't call you out personally by name.
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 14: That's that's a good sign essentially, since you're not a
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 14: You're not that far away from the stadium, and he
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 14: could come down to the station if he really wanted to.
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: But I would have thought the last guy that would
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: try to fight, and he would be Logan Gilbert. That
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: would have been seven.
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 14: The address. I know exactly where it's at. He can
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 14: confide you. But I think that's so special. And I've
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 14: been on teams where players wouldn't say those exact words
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 14: about managers, and the fact that he's willing to I
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 14: think that just shows the connection that's happening behind the
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 14: walls that none of the fans and most of the
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 14: media never sees the conversations. And if you really think
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 14: about it, Chuck, there's one situation this entire season where
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 14: it has come outside of the locker room where people
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 14: were frustrated with the lack of communication that Dan Wilson
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 14: was providing, and that was when the piggyback first started.
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 14: That's the only time where there's been public criticism or
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 14: frustration demonstrated by the players within these walls. The rest
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 14: of it, it's just the media, it's just the fans.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 14: It's people on social media wanting to get rid of
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 14: Dan Wilson because they think he's the one at Faull.
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 14: Where I think what you've actually done on this call today, Chuck,
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 14: is you've actually labeled a couple real reasons why this
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 14: team is having a hard time being consistent, and for
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 14: the first time, Dan Wilson is in the top of
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 14: the list.
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 7: Yeah, and part of my frustration with him, I have
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 7: not agreed with his bullpen decisions I've not agreed with
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 7: his bench usage and doesn't mean that he's wrong every time,
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 7: and I'm certainly not laying all the blame at his feet.
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 7: I just feel like this team's underachieved to this point
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 7: in the season. And who else would I hold ultimately
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 7: responsible when I believe in the roster. If I didn't
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 7: believe in the roster, I'd blame the people above him.
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 7: My problem is why are we not getting more out
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 7: of this roster? But last night was an example of it.
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 7: How do you take George Kirby out after six innings
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 7: when he's pitching that well and he's coming off rest.
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 7: He used it as a reason to take him out.
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 7: He hasn't pitched in a while. We're going to take
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 7: him out because we feel really good after eighty pitches,
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 7: removing him on a night where we know we don't
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 7: have all the leverage pieces of our bullpen at our
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 7: at our fingertips because they pitched on back to back night.
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: So it's stuff like that.
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 7: Can you explain why you would take George Kirby out
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 7: last night at all?
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 14: Yes, I'll finish with that question, but I want to
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 14: start with this. The biggest difference between what Dan's job,
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 14: the front office job, is compared to the media. The
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 14: manager and the front office are making decisions off of percentages,
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 14: a base off of what different pitch are doing for situations,
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 14: without knowing what the results can be or what the
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 14: performance will be of that picture. The media is strictly
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 14: judging the decisions and then the performance and results of
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 14: the circumstance that that picture or manager put him in.
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 14: Dan has zero control of what happens on the baseball
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 14: field the minute he walks off it. He can decide
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 14: what pitcher comes in, but guess what that decision was
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 14: made before the game ever started, based off of who
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 14: was available, what circumstances of situations call for a specific
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 14: type of arm.
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 11: He is this is the worst word to use, but he's.
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 14: Not guessing, but he is using his kind of system
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 14: within the organization to make those decisions, and then the
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 14: results happen.
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 11: So that's out of his control.
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 14: Of summer guards, plus all the injuries that have happened,
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 14: and then the bench that's underperformed at least on the
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 14: right handed side of the batter's box or the plate.
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 14: So I'm gonna finish on that. George Kirby, the big
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 14: reason why I believe he came out of the game
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 14: after eighty pitches last night. Is the exact reason why
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 14: we saw Julio come out of the game late in
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 14: the game. I think I don't know what happened to Julio,
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 14: so I'm not gonna speculate what the injury was, But
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 14: there's something that happened to him. Why Because he's had
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 14: a ton of rest and he didn't goan to rehab assignment.
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 14: He's been hanging out for the last ten, you know
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 14: plus days, and then went back to back games real quick.
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 14: So late in the game last night, a little bit
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 14: of fatigue, kind of run out of ball hard. All
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 14: of a sudden, something happens. I don't know what yet,
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 14: we'll find out. That's the exact reason why George Kirby
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 14: comes out of the game. He had a ton of rest.
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 14: Why push him from not throwing for X amount of
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 14: days to now go one hundred plus. Yes he was grooving,
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 14: Yes he looked great, but also.
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 11: Like he he did his job.
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 14: He threw six shortlists, six scoreless and looked tremendous, amazing
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 14: with using both sides of the plate and kept that offense. Yeah, sure,
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 14: I'd love to have seen back out there in the seventh,
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 14: but that was a decision that they made. They felt
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 14: like that was good for what they needed, and they
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 14: move on to the bullpen, and this time it all
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 14: worked out.
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 7: I want to go back to what you said in
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 7: the first half of that response, because I wholly agree
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 7: with you and then wholly disagree with you all on
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 7: a couple of those things, Like number one, I'm with you.
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 7: Like to me, I think media and I try not
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 7: to be one of these members are way to result oriented.
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: You're right.
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 7: This is why I would take Dan Wilson out. It's
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 7: not that I think that he's not that he's to
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 7: blame for everything, but I think somebody else might give
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 7: you a better percentage chance of winning. And I'll explain
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 7: that because like Ref Schneider, for example, I don't blame
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 7: Jerry Depoto for rob Refschneider. This year, the most recent
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 7: evidence you had of Rob Refschneider was that he crushes
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 7: left handers. Six months later he can't hit them at all.
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 7: I don't blame the decision, but the result obviously now
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 7: has to be dealt with.
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 1: So I'm with you. I think way.
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 7: Too many people in the media, wait for the result
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 7: and then have an emotional response. I really do try
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 7: not to be that way, but when it comes to Dan, don't.
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 7: I don't agree with the decisions a lot of the
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 7: time going into the situation. That's the problem that I
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 7: have with it. Is like last night, for example, I
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 7: don't know how you even justify it. I mean, I
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 7: thought the idea of an All Star break was to
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 7: make people give them rest so they would be stronger
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 7: coming out of the break, not weaker and more fragile.
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 1: So I really do believe. Yeah, I'm with you.
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 7: This game is about percentages, and it's from all angles.
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 7: Whether you're signing a free agent or making a pitching
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 7: decision or making a pinch hitting decision, A lot goes
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 7: into that and what goes into the decision. Sometimes the
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 7: result is taken out of your hands and you still
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 7: made a good decision. But I have really had a
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 7: problem with the decisions in the moment to bring in
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 7: said picture for said situation, And so I really can
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 7: I can honestly say that I'm not waiting to see
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 7: the result.
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 11: I'll just put it that way, which I understand.
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 14: Yeah, who are you alluding to being more fragile and
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 14: weaker after the second half of you George George. Yeah,
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 14: I don't think that was George's decision to come out
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 14: of the game.
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 7: No, I know, I think No, I'm not saying they
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 7: treated him like he was weaker and more fragile coming
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 7: out of the break. I thought the idea of getting
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 7: a break was so you could replenish your strength five
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 7: days off.
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but it doesn't work like that.
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 14: If you go to the gym and you max out
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 14: on bench and then you don't go to the gym
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 14: for let's just say ten days, and you go back
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 14: to the gym, do you think that your max bench
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 14: is going to increase or decrease from the last time
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 14: you just did it.
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 1: Oh, I'm going I'm gonna max out of one thirty
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 1: five the same way I did before.
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 14: So for me, like, if you're not coming back after
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 14: a little bit of rest stronger, like, I don't think
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 14: that analogy. I don't think that shoe fits not in
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 14: the game of baseball, and especially not for pitchers that
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 14: you care more about than being one hundred percent at
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 14: the end of September and through October than you do
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 14: for the very first start of the second half when
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 14: he literally just threw six shot out of innings.
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 1: M okay, all right, you are good with Dan. Just
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: to kind of put a fine point on it.
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 14: Yes, consider I have been a supporter of Dan from
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 14: the jump. I feel like most of my time spent
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 14: on you know, radio and talk shows is to defend
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 14: Dan from the player's perspective, from a former player that
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 14: wishes he could be in that clubhouse right now playing.
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 11: I would love to play for Dan Wilson.
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 1: Good. What do you feel about tonight? Because Stio versus Burns,
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 1: he already alluded to how good he is.
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 14: Uh, yeah, Burns is really good. The nice piece that
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 14: he's a right handed pitcher. I was a little nervous
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 14: about the left handed pitcher max a matchup last night,
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 14: but obviously we saw a completely different lineup thrown out there,
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 14: some because of injuries, but also you know, a guy
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 14: like Victor Robe was coming out there getting four hits
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 14: that was electric, the base running he had, he brought
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 14: some energy, he brought some excitement. Uh, Chase Burns is
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 14: gonna be a challenge. I'd like to see the best
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 14: version of Luis Castillo tonight, and I think throwing against
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 14: his former team. He's gonna have some familiar faces in
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 14: there as well, former teammates. Suarez going to see some
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 14: Gina's going to see some really fast fastballs tonight.
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 11: I'll tell you that much. You always throw harder against
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 11: your buddies.
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 14: I think it's gonna be a good matchup and might
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 14: be a little bit similar to last night's where maybe
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 14: it's a little bit quiet in the first four or
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 14: five innings, and whoever gets the bullpen first can blow
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 14: it open.
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 1: Do you have a trade guy circled? Do you have somebody?
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 7: I mean, you brought up the trade deadline earlier, and
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 7: I didn't mean to just blow over it. We were
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 7: just talking about so many other things.
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 14: Do you have a guy a bigger We had a
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 14: bigger fish to fry. I saw a trade suggestion last
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 14: night for the first time where it actually showed Mason
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 14: Miller potentially coming over to Seattle and they I think
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 14: the suggestion even parlayed it with Frando Tatis. I don't
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 14: know where he fits in the equation. Maybe it's a
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 14: right handed right fielder, but like I saw that, I'm like, Wow,
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 14: that looks really good. Is that even possible? Who do
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 14: I like, was there an app or a platform or
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 14: something where I can put in like the trade value
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 14: for what looks like gets fair, like a fantasy football
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 14: league or something. But listen, that stuff so above my head.
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 14: I think the marritor has been very clear what they need.
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 14: A right handed bat and a back end reliever. If
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 14: you get Mason Miller, you pretty much get the best
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 14: one on the market. So yeah, that was one that
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 14: jumped out to me.
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 11: That was interesting.
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, good session, Thank you sir. We appreciate it.
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 7: I appreciate you all the compliment, and I also appreciate
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 7: the pushback. Yeah, you know, Ryan Healy's going to come
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 7: in here and tell me what's up every single week.
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 7: I can promise me.
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 11: Touesday Mariners fans.
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 1: Let's go. All right, we'll talk to you next week.
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 1: See you all right.
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 7: Ryan Hayley, former Mariner, joining us right here on Chuck
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