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- 0:00Speaker 1: In December of 2005, a young woman walked down a
- 0:03Speaker 1: sidewalk in New York City. There were Christmas decorations on
- 0:06Speaker 1: all the buildings and Christmas lights. I mean, it was
- 0:08Speaker 1: very festive. But as she walked along, she glanced over
- 0:12Speaker 1: at a newspaper stand, and she saw something on the
- 0:15Speaker 1: front page of that paper that literally made her stop
- 0:18Speaker 1: in her tracks, and not because it was festive. It
- 0:21Speaker 1: was awful. Right there on the front page was a
- 0:24Speaker 1: picture of the one thing in her life that she'd
- 0:27Speaker 1: hoped she would never forget. ever see again. But before
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- 1:01Speaker 1: let's get into today's story. Early on the evening of Sunday,
- 1:25Speaker 1: November 27th, 2005, A 21-year-old woman named Catherine Woods leaned
- 1:30Speaker 1: towards the mirror to put on her eyeliner inside the
- 1:33Speaker 1: bathroom of her small apartment in New York City. Catherine's
- 1:36Speaker 1: phone was sitting on the bathroom counter, and she heard
- 1:39Speaker 1: a buzz, but she didn't even look to see who
- 1:41Speaker 1: was calling. She didn't have time to talk to anyone,
- 1:43Speaker 1: because she had to finish getting ready for her 7
- 1:45Speaker 1: o'clock shift at work. So Catherine had moved to New
- 1:48Speaker 1: York City from Ohio three years earlier to pursue her
- 1:51Speaker 1: dream of becoming a dancer on Broadway. But everything here
- 1:54Speaker 1: was so expensive that in addition to chasing her dream,
- 1:58Speaker 1: she also had to work three different jobs just to
- 2:00Speaker 1: make ends meet. Now, two of those jobs were pretty standard.
- 2:04Speaker 1: She worked as a waitress and also taught children's dance classes.
- 2:07Speaker 1: But tonight, she was getting ready to go to her
- 2:09Speaker 1: third job. And this job was not really standard at all.
- 2:13Speaker 1: In fact, to her, she was sort of embarrassed about it.
- 2:16Speaker 1: And because of that, she was keeping it a secret
- 2:18Speaker 1: from almost everybody in her life. Her third job was
- 2:21Speaker 1: working as a topless dancer at a strip club near
- 2:24Speaker 1: Times Square called Flash Dancers. Catherine honestly hated the work,
- 2:28Speaker 1: but it paid really well, and if she wanted to
- 2:31Speaker 1: have her shot at Broadway, she needed to pay for
- 2:33Speaker 1: voice lessons and dance classes. Now, she did live in Manhattan,
- 2:37Speaker 1: which was the most expensive part of the already very
- 2:40Speaker 1: expensive city, and she knew that she could save some
- 2:43Speaker 1: money if she just moved to a neighborhood where rent
- 2:45Speaker 1: was cheaper. But when she had first moved to New York...
- 2:49Speaker 1: She had lived in a less expensive neighborhood for that reason,
- 2:52Speaker 1: and unfortunately, her landlord had sexually assaulted her. The experience
- 2:56Speaker 1: had been so traumatic that Catherine had, at the time,
- 2:59Speaker 1: considered just leaving New York and going back to Ohio
- 3:02Speaker 1: and just being done with this place. But in the end,
- 3:05Speaker 1: she had decided to stay in New York and continue
- 3:08Speaker 1: chasing her dream. Now, she did move within New York.
- 3:11Speaker 1: She'd gotten this apartment in Manhattan because it was a
- 3:14Speaker 1: lot safer, and she also got a roommate to help
- 3:16Speaker 1: with the cost. His name was David Hahn, he was 23,
- 3:20Speaker 1: and he was one of Catherine's friends from back home
- 3:22Speaker 1: in Ohio. But at this very moment, David was not
- 3:25Speaker 1: inside the apartment. He'd gone outside to get his car
- 3:28Speaker 1: so he could drive Catherine to work. Catherine finished her
- 3:31Speaker 1: makeup and left the bathroom, and as she walked through
- 3:33Speaker 1: the living room, she stepped over a black dog that
- 3:36Speaker 1: was sleeping on the floor. The dog was not Catherine's,
- 3:38Speaker 1: and it actually was not David's either. David was a
- 3:41Speaker 1: part-time dog sitter, so this dog was just staying with
- 3:43Speaker 1: them while its owners were out of town. Just like Catherine,
- 3:46Speaker 1: David also had a bunch of part-time jobs to help
- 3:49Speaker 1: make ends meet. When he wasn't dog-sitting, he worked as
- 3:52Speaker 1: a doorman at a hotel just up the street from
- 3:54Speaker 1: their apartment. Now, Catherine and David had actually been romantic
- 3:58Speaker 1: at one point. They had dated for a little while.
- 4:00Speaker 1: But these days, they were just roommates living together to
- 4:02Speaker 1: split the bills. Although, secretly, Catherine did sometimes wonder if,
- 4:06Speaker 1: you know, maybe they should give it another shot to
- 4:08Speaker 1: try being a couple again. Thanksgiving had been a few
- 4:11Speaker 1: days ago, and instead of going home to Ohio like
- 4:13Speaker 1: she usually did... Catherine had stayed in New York and
- 4:16Speaker 1: celebrated with David, and it had been a really nice time. Plus,
- 4:19Speaker 1: David knew about Catherine's third job of working at Flashdancers,
- 4:23Speaker 1: and he didn't judge her for it. And Catherine felt
- 4:25Speaker 1: like a lot of people did, so she liked that
- 4:28Speaker 1: about him. But the biggest hurdle that Catherine could see
- 4:30Speaker 1: to potentially rekindling their relationship was the fact that David
- 4:34Speaker 1: disliked basically every man she met, whether she was dating
- 4:38Speaker 1: them or not. He just did not like them. Now,
- 4:40Speaker 1: some of these guys, she could understand why David, you know,
- 4:43Speaker 1: didn't like them. Like there was this guy Joe that
- 4:45Speaker 1: she had dated briefly, who really she'd only met because
- 4:48Speaker 1: he was a patron of her strip club. But then
- 4:51Speaker 1: there were people like Paul, who was a personal trainer
- 4:53Speaker 1: at Catherine's gym, who she'd only seen off and on,
- 4:56Speaker 1: and who was nothing but nice to David. And even
- 4:58Speaker 1: though Paul and Catherine were not dating now, and mostly
- 5:01Speaker 1: just spoke on the phone periodically, David still insisted that
- 5:04Speaker 1: Paul was a creep. He just did not like the guy.
- 5:07Speaker 1: But for now, Catherine figured, you know what, I'm not
- 5:10Speaker 1: going to figure out my entire romantic life. I just
- 5:12Speaker 1: need to finish getting ready, and go downstairs so she
- 5:15Speaker 1: wouldn't keep David waiting. So Catherine went into her bedroom
- 5:18Speaker 1: and began getting dressed. And that's when she heard that
- 5:21Speaker 1: dog start barking at something in the living room. And so, curious,
- 5:25Speaker 1: Catherine walked in that direction to see what was going on.
- 5:33Speaker 1: A little while later, Catherine's roommate, David, walked quickly along
- 5:36Speaker 1: the sidewalk to get his car, which was parked a
- 5:38Speaker 1: ways up the street. He was out of breath by
- 5:41Speaker 1: the time he reached it. He knew he had to hurry,
- 5:43Speaker 1: so he jumped in, and he drove back to the
- 5:45Speaker 1: apartment building, and he called Catherine as he pulled up
- 5:47Speaker 1: out front. When she didn't answer, he threw on his hazards,
- 5:51Speaker 1: and he climbed back out to go into the building
- 5:53Speaker 1: to go get her. And he had just made it
- 5:55Speaker 1: up the flight of stairs that led to his second-floor apartment,
- 5:57Speaker 1: and he was going down the hallway when he saw
- 6:00Speaker 1: something that made him come to an abrupt stop. It
- 6:02Speaker 1: was that black dog that he was dog-sitting. Somehow, it
- 6:06Speaker 1: had gotten out of the apartment and was just standing
- 6:08Speaker 1: there in the shared hallway outside of his apartment door.
- 6:12Speaker 1: David blinked and then realized that his neighbor, a man
- 6:14Speaker 1: he rarely interacted with named Brad Stewart, was standing right
- 6:18Speaker 1: behind the dog, and Brad was holding a leash that
- 6:21Speaker 1: was clearly clipped onto the dog's collar. For a second,
- 6:24Speaker 1: Brad looked surprised, and David was just completely confused about
- 6:28Speaker 1: why this guy had the dog that he was dog-sitting
- 6:30Speaker 1: on a leash. But then Brad told David that he
- 6:33Speaker 1: had found the dog wandering around, recognized it as David's,
- 6:36Speaker 1: and brought it back to his apartment. Brad said he
- 6:39Speaker 1: had just knocked on David's apartment door, but so far
- 6:41Speaker 1: nobody had answered. So at this point, David understood, you know,
- 6:44Speaker 1: why Brad has the dog. But he didn't know why
- 6:47Speaker 1: the dog was out of the apartment in the first place.
- 6:50Speaker 1: But he kept that to himself and just thanked Brad,
- 6:52Speaker 1: took the leash, and then stepped over to the door
- 6:54Speaker 1: of his apartment, number 2D. The apartment door was shut,
- 6:58Speaker 1: but when he turned the handle, he found that it
- 7:00Speaker 1: was unlocked. David couldn't remember if he had left it
- 7:02Speaker 1: unlocked or not, so he just opened it and he
- 7:05Speaker 1: called out Catherine's name. But there was no answer. which
- 7:08Speaker 1: was weird. So he stepped inside. Now he didn't see Catherine,
- 7:12Speaker 1: but he did see the door to her bedroom was
- 7:14Speaker 1: slightly cracked open. So he walked over to it and
- 7:17Speaker 1: he called out to her again. And then when she
- 7:19Speaker 1: didn't call back, he tried pushing her door open, but
- 7:21Speaker 1: the door didn't really open. It instead swung maybe a
- 7:25Speaker 1: few inches and then stopped. And David felt resistance on
- 7:28Speaker 1: the other side, like something maybe on the ground was
- 7:31Speaker 1: holding the door from opening all the way. And so
- 7:33Speaker 1: now with all these strange things happening, David's starting to
- 7:36Speaker 1: feel pretty worried and And so the surge of adrenaline
- 7:38Speaker 1: came over him and he just shoved the door open
- 7:41Speaker 1: and he stuck his head in and he looked inside.
- 7:44Speaker 1: And when he saw what was in there, he immediately
- 7:46Speaker 1: pulled back, turned around, ran into the hallway, and he
- 7:50Speaker 1: called the police. A half an hour later, around 7.30 p.m.,
- 7:57Speaker 1: an NYPD detective named Stephen Goetz walked up a flight
- 8:00Speaker 1: of stairs at an apartment building in Manhattan. This part
- 8:04Speaker 1: of the city was known to be extremely safe. Homicides
- 8:07Speaker 1: never really happened here. But if the 911 caller had
- 8:10Speaker 1: been telling the truth, Goetz knew that a potential grisly
- 8:14Speaker 1: murder scene was in fact waiting for him in apartment 2D.
- 8:18Speaker 1: When he reached the second floor landing, he saw there
- 8:21Speaker 1: were already a few other NYPD officers on the scene.
- 8:24Speaker 1: And one of them was speaking to this young skinny
- 8:26Speaker 1: guy standing in the hallway who looked really upset, and
- 8:29Speaker 1: he was holding a leash that was connected to a
- 8:31Speaker 1: black dog. Another officer walked over to Goetz and filled
- 8:34Speaker 1: him in. He said the man that was being spoken
- 8:36Speaker 1: to was the victim's roommate, David Hahn, and he was
- 8:39Speaker 1: the one who had found the body and called 911.
- 8:42Speaker 1: The victim, Catherine Woods, was inside the apartment in the
- 8:45Speaker 1: back bedroom. Goetz nodded and then walked down the hallway,
- 8:49Speaker 1: past David and the dog, toward the apartment door. His
- 8:52Speaker 1: plan was to look at the scene himself before he
- 8:55Speaker 1: began questioning anyone. Goetz put on some disposable rubber gloves
- 8:59Speaker 1: and checked out the doorframe to the actual apartment, and
- 9:02Speaker 1: then he also looked at the door itself. but he
- 9:04Speaker 1: didn't see any damage that could signify forced entry. So
- 9:07Speaker 1: he stepped into the apartment, and he saw that the
- 9:10Speaker 1: small living room was a little bit messy, but it
- 9:12Speaker 1: wasn't like it had been ransacked or something. You know,
- 9:15Speaker 1: the futon was pulled out, and there were some men's
- 9:17Speaker 1: clothes strewn around, but it sort of looked like a
- 9:19Speaker 1: typical place that people lived. And so Goetz walked through
- 9:22Speaker 1: the living room, being careful not to disturb anything, and
- 9:25Speaker 1: he went towards what he assumed was the bedroom, where
- 9:28Speaker 1: the body was. The door was open just wide enough
- 9:30Speaker 1: that Goetz was able to get through. when he stepped
- 9:33Speaker 1: through and was inside the room, he saw blood everywhere.
- 9:38Speaker 1: It was all over the walls and the furniture and
- 9:41Speaker 1: the room itself looked like it had been completely torn apart.
- 9:44Speaker 1: One of the dresser drawers was open and lots of
- 9:46Speaker 1: women's clothing was scattered all over the place and the
- 9:49Speaker 1: mattress had been completely taken off the bed frame and
- 9:52Speaker 1: was now lying on the floor. And that's actually what
- 9:54Speaker 1: was blocking the door from opening all the way. And
- 9:57Speaker 1: then in the middle of the room, in a pool
- 9:59Speaker 1: of blood, lay the body of a young woman. Goetz
- 10:02Speaker 1: knew from the 911 call that her name was Catherine Woods.
- 10:06Speaker 1: He walked over and squatted down next to her for
- 10:08Speaker 1: a closer look. She was wearing a t-shirt and underwear,
- 10:12Speaker 1: and the t-shirt had a very obvious shoe print on it,
- 10:15Speaker 1: like whoever had killed Catherine had stepped on her. and
- 10:18Speaker 1: there were at least a dozen stab wounds all over
- 10:21Speaker 1: her body. There were also what appeared to be defensive
- 10:23Speaker 1: wounds on her hands and arms, which Goetz knew meant
- 10:26Speaker 1: she must have fought back against her attacker. But the
- 10:29Speaker 1: worst injuries she sustained were definitely to her neck. Whoever
- 10:33Speaker 1: had killed her had slit her throat so deeply that
- 10:36Speaker 1: they had almost decapitated her. And so to Goetz, right away,
- 10:40Speaker 1: it seemed like whoever killed Catherine had been in an
- 10:43Speaker 1: absolute rage. At that point, Goetz heard footsteps coming from
- 10:47Speaker 1: behind him. And he stood up and he turned around
- 10:49Speaker 1: to see that the NYPD forensics team had arrived. Now,
- 10:53Speaker 1: the blocked door was making maneuvering in and out of
- 10:55Speaker 1: this bedroom pretty difficult. So one of the first things
- 10:58Speaker 1: the forensics team did was to pick up the mattress
- 11:00Speaker 1: and carefully lean it against the wall. So the bedroom
- 11:03Speaker 1: door could now swing open all the way. Then Detective
- 11:05Speaker 1: Goetz just stepped back and let the forensics team get
- 11:08Speaker 1: to work. He watched as they pulled that shoe print
- 11:11Speaker 1: off the T-shirt Catherine was wearing. And then also there
- 11:13Speaker 1: was a second identical shoe print that was on her
- 11:16Speaker 1: bedsheets that they also grabbed. To Goetz, both of these
- 11:19Speaker 1: prints did appear to be from the exact same shoe,
- 11:21Speaker 1: and to the naked eye, these prints appeared, at least
- 11:24Speaker 1: to Goetz, to belong to very likely an average-sized man.
- 11:28Speaker 1: Detective Goetz was immediately curious about something, so he stepped
- 11:32Speaker 1: out of the bedroom into the living room, and he
- 11:34Speaker 1: quickly found a couple pairs of men's shoes lying on
- 11:36Speaker 1: the floor. And although the tread of these shoes did
- 11:39Speaker 1: not match the prints he had just seen in the bedroom,
- 11:41Speaker 1: they did appear to be the exact same size. An
- 11:55Speaker 1: hour later, at about 8.30 p.m. on November 27, 2005,
- 11:59Speaker 1: Detective Goetz sat down at a table inside of an
- 12:02Speaker 1: interview room at the NYPD's 19th Precinct, and once he did,
- 12:06Speaker 1: he handed a bottle of water across the table to
- 12:09Speaker 1: David Hahn, the roommate of the murder victim, and Detective Goetz,
- 12:12Speaker 1: current number one suspect. There had been no sign of
- 12:16Speaker 1: forced entry at the apartment that David and Catherine shared,
- 12:19Speaker 1: which meant that Catherine's killer had been either had access
- 12:22Speaker 1: to the apartment or was let inside by somebody who did.
- 12:26Speaker 1: And the murder had been committed with a knife in
- 12:28Speaker 1: a really savage way that struck Goetz as being a
- 12:31Speaker 1: personally motivated attack. Even though Catherine's bedroom had been trashed,
- 12:35Speaker 1: nothing seemed to have been stolen. And because Catherine had
- 12:38Speaker 1: been found partially undressed, there was potentially a sexual motive
- 12:42Speaker 1: at play as well. So Goetz's working theory here was
- 12:45Speaker 1: that this murder was committed by a man who knew
- 12:47Speaker 1: the victim well and had easy access to her living space.
- 12:51Speaker 1: And David fit that profile to a tee. Plus, he
- 12:55Speaker 1: apparently wore the same size shoe as the killer. Although,
- 12:59Speaker 1: as Detective Goetz settled into his chair and brought out
- 13:01Speaker 1: his notepad, he did a quick scan of David's forearms
- 13:05Speaker 1: and his hands. And he saw that David had no
- 13:07Speaker 1: visible cuts, scrapes, or bruises. The detective thought that Catherine's
- 13:11Speaker 1: killer likely would have some injuries there because she had
- 13:15Speaker 1: obviously been fighting for her life. She would have left
- 13:17Speaker 1: a mark on them. But Goetz didn't say anything about
- 13:19Speaker 1: this to David. Instead, he just leaned forward, and he
- 13:22Speaker 1: asked David to walk him through what had happened that day.
- 13:25Speaker 1: David's hands were shaking a bit, but he took a
- 13:27Speaker 1: deep breath to calm himself, and he said that he
- 13:30Speaker 1: had been at the apartment with Catherine that night until
- 13:33Speaker 1: about 6.40 p.m. That was when he had left to
- 13:35Speaker 1: go get his car so he could come back and
- 13:37Speaker 1: drive Catherine to her 7 o'clock shift at Flashdancers. But
- 13:42Speaker 1: he said retrieving his car had taken longer than he expected,
- 13:45Speaker 1: because on the way, he had run into some of
- 13:47Speaker 1: his co-workers from his doorman job And he had stopped
- 13:50Speaker 1: to chat with them. He said after he had done
- 13:52Speaker 1: that and he had gotten his car and he went
- 13:54Speaker 1: back to the apartment, he had expected Catherine to be
- 13:57Speaker 1: waiting outside by the curb. But when he got there,
- 14:00Speaker 1: there was no sign of her. And she didn't answer
- 14:03Speaker 1: when he called her. So David said he'd ultimately gone
- 14:05Speaker 1: inside and ran upstairs to the apartment. And in the hallway,
- 14:09Speaker 1: he had found his neighbor, Brad, who was oddly holding
- 14:12Speaker 1: the leash of the black dog that David was supposed
- 14:14Speaker 1: to be looking after. And then David said he went
- 14:16Speaker 1: into his apartment. And that's when he found Catherine's body.
- 14:19Speaker 1: David said he had called 911 right away. It was
- 14:22Speaker 1: right around 7 p.m. And at this, Getz stopped writing
- 14:25Speaker 1: on the notepad and just looked up at David. He
- 14:28Speaker 1: couldn't believe what he was hearing. David was claiming that
- 14:31Speaker 1: he'd only been out of the apartment for 20 minutes
- 14:34Speaker 1: and that in that narrow window of time, Catherine had
- 14:36Speaker 1: been brutally murdered and the killer had also escaped. It
- 14:40Speaker 1: honestly sounded like one of the worst alibis Getz had
- 14:43Speaker 1: ever heard. But he didn't want David to know just
- 14:46Speaker 1: how close he was to getting arrested for murder. because
- 14:49Speaker 1: he didn't want David to get scared and stop talking.
- 14:52Speaker 1: So Goetz kept his tone very sympathetic as he asked
- 14:54Speaker 1: how long David had known Catherine for. David said they
- 14:57Speaker 1: had met back in Ohio a few years ago while
- 15:00Speaker 1: Catherine was visiting her hometown. They'd begun dating, and he'd
- 15:03Speaker 1: ultimately moved out to New York to live with her.
- 15:05Speaker 1: But it wasn't long before Catherine broke up with him
- 15:08Speaker 1: and then asked him to move out. But David said
- 15:11Speaker 1: he had not been able to afford his own place,
- 15:13Speaker 1: so he had started sleeping in his car. And Catherine
- 15:17Speaker 1: had felt bad about that. So she had ultimately let
- 15:19Speaker 1: him move back in on the condition that he slept
- 15:22Speaker 1: on the futon out in the living room. By now,
- 15:25Speaker 1: Detective Goetz's pen was flying across the page because David
- 15:28Speaker 1: was not just Catherine's roommate. He was her ex-boyfriend. An
- 15:32Speaker 1: ex-boyfriend who was the last person to see Catherine alive
- 15:36Speaker 1: and discovered her body. Goetz was more confident than ever
- 15:39Speaker 1: that he was sitting across from Catherine's killer. He told
- 15:42Speaker 1: David that everything he was saying was incredibly helpful. But
- 15:45Speaker 1: right now, he needed to go check on something. David
- 15:47Speaker 1: agreed to wait, and Getz stood up to leave. But
- 15:50Speaker 1: he stopped at the door, and he asked David for
- 15:52Speaker 1: one last thing before he left. He asked what his
- 15:55Speaker 1: shoe size was. And without missing a beat, David answered
- 15:58Speaker 1: that he wore a 10.5. Getz jotted this down, and
- 16:02Speaker 1: then he left. What he hadn't told David was the
- 16:04Speaker 1: reason he was stepping out of the room was to
- 16:07Speaker 1: go get some information from the NYPD's forensics team and
- 16:10Speaker 1: the uniformed officers who were currently questioning David's neighbors. once
- 16:14Speaker 1: Goetz had that information, he was going to use it
- 16:17Speaker 1: to try to catch David in a lie. About 19
- 16:25Speaker 1: hours later, so about 3 p.m. the next day, Goetz
- 16:28Speaker 1: was sitting at his desk feeling completely exhausted, but was
- 16:32Speaker 1: pounding yet another cup of coffee. He'd been up all
- 16:35Speaker 1: night interrogating David, who was still literally sitting right down
- 16:38Speaker 1: the hall in the interrogation room. And also, Goetz had
- 16:41Speaker 1: been going back and forth with the forensics team and
- 16:43Speaker 1: other officers and detectives who were out in the neighborhood,
- 16:46Speaker 1: and he still had loads more to do before he
- 16:49Speaker 1: could finally go to sleep. Right now, Goetz was going
- 16:52Speaker 1: over a new batch of reports from the uniformed officers
- 16:55Speaker 1: who had gone door to door in Catherine and David's
- 16:57Speaker 1: apartment building, asking the neighbors if they'd seen or heard
- 17:00Speaker 1: anything unusual. And just like Goetz had hoped, the information
- 17:04Speaker 1: they were getting did contradict pieces of David's story. David
- 17:08Speaker 1: claimed that he had left the apartment at about 6.40 p.m.
- 17:11Speaker 1: and said that at that time, Catherine was fine. But
- 17:15Speaker 1: two neighbors said they heard screams coming from the apartment
- 17:18Speaker 1: before 6.40 p.m. The man in the unit directly above
- 17:22Speaker 1: David and Catherine said he had heard three screams at 6.28 p.m.
- 17:27Speaker 1: And the people in the unit next door to David
- 17:29Speaker 1: and Catherine said they'd heard screaming, barking, and the sound
- 17:32Speaker 1: of furniture moving around even earlier, between 5.45 and 6 p.m. Now,
- 17:38Speaker 1: none of these neighbors had done anything about these noises
- 17:40Speaker 1: because the noises had stopped pretty quickly. And then there
- 17:43Speaker 1: was Brad Stewart, the neighbor who had said he had
- 17:45Speaker 1: found the black dog. Brad told police that when he
- 17:48Speaker 1: ran into David in the hallway, it was sometime between
- 17:50Speaker 1: 6 and 6.30. But David had said that he went
- 17:53Speaker 1: back up to the apartment and found Catherine's body at
- 17:56Speaker 1: about 7 p.m., a full half hour later. Now, gets new,
- 17:59Speaker 1: witnesses were often bad with time. And in a dense
- 18:02Speaker 1: New York City apartment building, there were lots of noises
- 18:05Speaker 1: coming from lots of units. But still, it looked to
- 18:07Speaker 1: him like David's alibi had serious problems. And so the
- 18:11Speaker 1: detective sat back and had some more coffee, and then
- 18:14Speaker 1: his phone rang. He picked it up, and it was
- 18:16Speaker 1: the forensics team with an update about those shoe prints
- 18:19Speaker 1: that were on Catherine's shirt and the bedsheets. And the
- 18:22Speaker 1: prints were indeed left behind by a roughly average-sized man.
- 18:27Speaker 1: They were a men's size 10 1⁄2. And this was
- 18:31Speaker 1: the exact size Getz knew David wore. Getz thanked them.
- 18:35Speaker 1: hung up the phone, and then rushed back to the
- 18:38Speaker 1: interrogation room to have yet another chat with David Hahn.
- 18:42Speaker 1: This time, though, Goetz did not offer David a water.
- 18:44Speaker 1: He just sat down and he confronted him with all
- 18:47Speaker 1: these new facts. He told David that the killer's shoe
- 18:49Speaker 1: prints were exactly his shoe size, that his neighbors had
- 18:52Speaker 1: heard screams before David had supposedly left the building, and
- 18:56Speaker 1: that Brad said he'd seen David in the hallway at
- 18:58Speaker 1: least a half an hour earlier than David had claimed
- 19:01Speaker 1: he was there. Goetz leaned in and told David that
- 19:04Speaker 1: There were also security cameras in the apartment building, and
- 19:07Speaker 1: his officers were already in the process of getting access
- 19:10Speaker 1: to that footage. So if David had anything to say,
- 19:13Speaker 1: he better say it now. Getz watched as David's expression
- 19:16Speaker 1: went from exhausted to clearly afraid. It seemed like this
- 19:20Speaker 1: might be the first time that David realized the police
- 19:23Speaker 1: truly did not believe his story. And after a second
- 19:26Speaker 1: of just stunned silence, David insisted that he had not
- 19:30Speaker 1: killed Catherine, and he begged Getz to believe him. But
- 19:33Speaker 1: when Goetz just glared back at him completely unmoved, David
- 19:37Speaker 1: launched into a whole new story, one he had not
- 19:40Speaker 1: mentioned at all over the last 20 hours of interrogation.
- 19:45Speaker 1: David said Catherine knew this guy named Paul Cortez. She
- 19:49Speaker 1: had dated him. but David had always thought he was
- 19:51Speaker 1: kind of a creep. And David said Catherine had told
- 19:54Speaker 1: him that Paul was obsessed with her. So David said
- 19:58Speaker 1: the police really ought to go investigate Paul, not him.
- 20:02Speaker 1: To Goetz, this seemed like a desperate last-minute attempt to
- 20:05Speaker 1: cast suspicion on somebody else. but he knew he did
- 20:08Speaker 1: have to follow every lead, so he did write down
- 20:11Speaker 1: Paul's name and told David they'd look into it. When
- 20:14Speaker 1: Goetz finally left the station for the evening, David was
- 20:17Speaker 1: still in the interrogation room, and reporters from all the
- 20:20Speaker 1: daily papers were beginning to assemble right outside. The following morning,
- 20:33Speaker 1: the story of Catherine's murder continued. and pictures of her
- 20:36Speaker 1: smiling face were all over the news. The front page
- 20:39Speaker 1: of the New York Daily News carried a headline that
- 20:42Speaker 1: made Goetz grimace. It read, Secret Life of Slain Stripper. Inside,
- 20:47Speaker 1: the article reported that Catherine's family hadn't known she was
- 20:50Speaker 1: working as a topless dancer until they literally flew to
- 20:54Speaker 1: the city from Ohio to collect her body. Goetz skimmed
- 20:57Speaker 1: the article at his desk. He wasn't convinced that Catherine's
- 21:00Speaker 1: line of work had anything to do with her murder,
- 21:02Speaker 1: but the papers seemed intent on running with it. And
- 21:05Speaker 1: a media circus was like the last thing Getz wanted.
- 21:08Speaker 1: His team was already under enough pressure to make an
- 21:10Speaker 1: arrest as it was. And it was going to be
- 21:12Speaker 1: even harder to do their jobs now that a bunch
- 21:14Speaker 1: of tips were going to be flooding in from the
- 21:16Speaker 1: public from all this media. Getz put down the newspaper,
- 21:19Speaker 1: got up from his desk, and walked down the hall
- 21:21Speaker 1: to the interrogation room. He'd finished the day yesterday feeling
- 21:24Speaker 1: pretty confident that David was his murderer. So when he'd
- 21:28Speaker 1: sent David home, he had given him instructions not to
- 21:31Speaker 1: leave the city because... He intended to arrest David and soon.
- 21:35Speaker 1: But first, Goetz did need to follow up on the
- 21:37Speaker 1: other leads he had to hopefully rule them out. And
- 21:40Speaker 1: one of those leads was sitting in the interrogation room
- 21:43Speaker 1: right now waiting for him. It was Paul Cortez, the
- 21:46Speaker 1: man that David had named, who officers had tracked down
- 21:48Speaker 1: and brought in. The man who supposedly was obsessed with Catherine.
- 21:52Speaker 1: As soon as Goetz entered the room, the first thing
- 21:54Speaker 1: he did was look at Paul's shoes. And he could
- 21:57Speaker 1: see that they were a pretty typical size too. At
- 21:59Speaker 1: a glance, they looked like they could also be a
- 22:02Speaker 1: ten and a half. Goetz also looked for scratches or
- 22:05Speaker 1: bruises on Paul's skin, in particular on his forearms and
- 22:08Speaker 1: his hands. And he did see one. There was a
- 22:10Speaker 1: small injury on one of Paul's fingertips. Goetz asked about it,
- 22:14Speaker 1: and Paul said his finger had just gotten pinched between
- 22:16Speaker 1: a couple of weights at the gym. Paul was very
- 22:18Speaker 1: calm and soft-spoken, and he said he'd heard all about
- 22:21Speaker 1: Catherine's death in the papers, and he just wanted to
- 22:23Speaker 1: help if he could. When Goetz told him that they'd
- 22:26Speaker 1: gotten his name from David Hahn, Paul just kind of
- 22:28Speaker 1: rolled his eyes and said, you know, David had always
- 22:30Speaker 1: been jealous of his relationship with Catherine. Paul explained that
- 22:34Speaker 1: he had met Catherine at the gym about a year ago,
- 22:36Speaker 1: and they'd been dating off and on ever since. At
- 22:38Speaker 1: the time of Catherine's death, he said they had been off,
- 22:41Speaker 1: but Paul said he still cared about her and had
- 22:43Speaker 1: hoped that maybe one day they might get back together.
- 22:46Speaker 1: Paul told Goetz that he hadn't actually seen Catherine on
- 22:49Speaker 1: the day of her death, but that he had actually
- 22:51Speaker 1: spoken to her on the phone earlier that afternoon, which
- 22:54Speaker 1: was not unusual. The two did speak on the phone
- 22:56Speaker 1: from time to time. That's all it was. Paul said
- 22:58Speaker 1: he actually had tried calling her a second time that day,
- 23:01Speaker 1: but she didn't answer her. but Paul said he really
- 23:03Speaker 1: didn't think much of it. And then Paul said that
- 23:05Speaker 1: night he wound up going shopping with some friends and
- 23:08Speaker 1: then also to a local bar to watch the Jets
- 23:10Speaker 1: game at about 8.30. Getz made a note to follow
- 23:13Speaker 1: up on Paul's alibi. Then he asked Paul if he
- 23:16Speaker 1: had any idea who might have killed Catherine. Paul thought
- 23:19Speaker 1: for a moment and then his eyes lit up and
- 23:21Speaker 1: he said there had been some stalker guy named Joe
- 23:24Speaker 1: who'd been one of Catherine's regulars at the strip club.
- 23:26Speaker 1: You know, months ago, he'd somehow gotten Catherine's phone number
- 23:29Speaker 1: and had reached out to her outside of the club.
- 23:31Speaker 1: And around that same time, Catherine had actually gotten roofied
- 23:35Speaker 1: during one of her strip club shifts. A roofie is
- 23:37Speaker 1: called the date rape drug. It basically makes you incapacitated
- 23:41Speaker 1: and effectively unconscious. You don't remember anything. People will be
- 23:44Speaker 1: given a roofie and then be sexually assaulted. That's often
- 23:47Speaker 1: its use. And even though he'd never been able to
- 23:49Speaker 1: prove this, Paul always suspected it had been Joe who
- 23:53Speaker 1: gave Catherine that roofie. Catherine had cut off contact with Joe,
- 23:56Speaker 1: but the whole incident had bothered Paul so much that
- 23:59Speaker 1: he'd tried to convince Catherine to just quit the exotic
- 24:02Speaker 1: dancing scene. But she refused. Paul admitted that he actually
- 24:06Speaker 1: went on to call Catherine's father to tell him how
- 24:09Speaker 1: worried he was about her. And Catherine had been so
- 24:12Speaker 1: mad about that that she stopped talking to Paul for weeks.
- 24:15Speaker 1: And so Goetz jotted all this down and then asked
- 24:17Speaker 1: Paul if he knew how to get in touch with
- 24:19Speaker 1: this guy Joe. Paul said he didn't have Joe's number,
- 24:21Speaker 1: but it was definitely in Catherine's phone. Because the last
- 24:25Speaker 1: time Paul ever spoke on the phone with Catherine on
- 24:27Speaker 1: the afternoon of her death she had mentioned something that
- 24:30Speaker 1: really surprised him. She said that after months of silence,
- 24:34Speaker 1: Joe had started calling her again, completely out of the blue.
- 24:37Speaker 1: And at this, Getz studied Paul's face, looking for any
- 24:41Speaker 1: hint of deception. This whole Joe story seemed like it
- 24:44Speaker 1: might just be a way to deflect suspicion from Paul himself.
- 24:47Speaker 1: But it really didn't feel like Paul was lying here.
- 24:50Speaker 1: And besides, Catherine's phone records would be simple enough to verify.
- 24:53Speaker 1: Getz hated to admit it, but maybe the newspapers were right.
- 24:57Speaker 1: Maybe it was time he started looking seriously into some
- 24:59Speaker 1: of Catherine's customers at the strip club. The following afternoon,
- 25:11Speaker 1: on Wednesday, November 30th, Detective Goetz was feeling really annoyed
- 25:15Speaker 1: as he hung up the phone at his desk. It
- 25:17Speaker 1: had been a call from another reporter. But Goetz hadn't
- 25:20Speaker 1: made an arrest yet, so he was staying tight-lipped. But
- 25:23Speaker 1: for now, he just turned his focus back to the
- 25:25Speaker 1: stack of papers on his desk. They were Catherine's cell
- 25:28Speaker 1: phone records, which he'd subpoenaed yesterday, and they showed that
- 25:31Speaker 1: Paul had been telling the truth. Both he and Joe
- 25:34Speaker 1: had called Catherine shortly before she died. So he'd brought
- 25:38Speaker 1: in Joe for an interview, and he asked him to
- 25:40Speaker 1: explain why, after months of silence, he had called Catherine
- 25:44Speaker 1: right before she turned up dead. And Joe had replied
- 25:47Speaker 1: he'd only called her to check in, to say he
- 25:49Speaker 1: hoped she had a nice Thanksgiving. He had claimed that
- 25:52Speaker 1: he was really just trying to be friendly. But then
- 25:54Speaker 1: Goetz just asked Joe point blank if he had ever
- 25:56Speaker 1: roofied anyone's drink before. And at this, Joe's eyes went
- 25:59Speaker 1: wide and he kind of sputtered out that he would
- 26:02Speaker 1: never dream of doing anything like that. But based on
- 26:05Speaker 1: Joe's tone, Goetz really felt like he was lying. And
- 26:10Speaker 1: so now Goetz felt like the entire investigation was wide open.
- 26:14Speaker 1: A few days ago, he had been absolutely confident that
- 26:17Speaker 1: David was the killer, but men from Catherine's life just
- 26:19Speaker 1: kept coming out of the woodwork. He now had three
- 26:23Speaker 1: main suspects instead of just one. In fact, at this point,
- 26:27Speaker 1: his original suspect, David, was actually looking more innocent. Goetz's
- 26:31Speaker 1: officers had spoken to David's co-workers at the hotel where
- 26:34Speaker 1: he worked as a doorman, and they confirmed that he
- 26:36Speaker 1: really had stopped and talked to them on the evening
- 26:38Speaker 1: of Catherine's death, just like he had claimed. And while
- 26:41Speaker 1: Goetz had hoped that the security camera footage from the
- 26:44Speaker 1: apartment building would prove David was lying about his alibi,
- 26:47Speaker 1: at least in terms of when he was there, it
- 26:49Speaker 1: actually showed David leaving the front entrance of the building
- 26:52Speaker 1: at 6.38 p.m., which lined up with David's story because
- 26:56Speaker 1: he said he left around 6.40. Now, this did not
- 26:59Speaker 1: prove that David was innocent. Based on what the neighbors
- 27:02Speaker 1: had heard, she could have been killed before 6.38, but
- 27:04Speaker 1: there weren't a lot of cameras in the apartment building,
- 27:07Speaker 1: and no angle covered the hallway outside of apartment 2D.
- 27:11Speaker 1: So the footage couldn't prove one way or another whether
- 27:14Speaker 1: Brad Stewart, or anybody else for that matter, had gone
- 27:17Speaker 1: into the apartment while David was gone. Just then, his
- 27:21Speaker 1: phone rang. Goetz reached for it, expecting it to be
- 27:24Speaker 1: another reporter, but this time he was pleasantly surprised. It
- 27:28Speaker 1: was a member of the forensics team, and there was
- 27:30Speaker 1: this obvious excitement in their voice. He told Goetz that
- 27:33Speaker 1: they'd just discovered something big, something they completely missed during
- 27:37Speaker 1: their first sweep of Catherine's apartment. The forensics team member
- 27:41Speaker 1: explained that when they'd first entered Catherine's bedroom, they had
- 27:44Speaker 1: taken that mattress that was stuck behind the door and
- 27:47Speaker 1: propped it up against the wall to get it out
- 27:49Speaker 1: of the way. But when they'd done that, the mattress
- 27:52Speaker 1: had actually covered up something that was right there on
- 27:54Speaker 1: the wall all along. A bloody handprint. It was not
- 27:58Speaker 1: until a couple of days later, after they'd carefully gone
- 28:01Speaker 1: over everything else in the room, that they moved the
- 28:04Speaker 1: mattress back down onto the floor. And that's when they
- 28:07Speaker 1: found the handprint. Goetz's face lit up when he heard
- 28:09Speaker 1: this news, because now he knew all he had to
- 28:12Speaker 1: do was go get handprints from all of his suspects,
- 28:15Speaker 1: which seemed like that would be pretty easy to do.
- 28:17Speaker 1: But he quickly realized he had a problem, because some
- 28:20Speaker 1: of his suspects had already lawyered up at this point,
- 28:23Speaker 1: and they were refusing to speak with police, let alone
- 28:26Speaker 1: hand over their prints. And Goetz really could not force
- 28:29Speaker 1: them to give their prints unless he arrested them. And
- 28:32Speaker 1: so that meant Goetz was now in this weird catch-22,
- 28:35Speaker 1: because he needed the suspect's prints in order to make
- 28:38Speaker 1: the arrest, but he also couldn't get their prints unless
- 28:41Speaker 1: he arrested them. So at this point, the investigation kind
- 28:44Speaker 1: of stalled out. Weeks went by, and Detective Goetz started
- 28:47Speaker 1: to get really frustrated, because there was just nothing he
- 28:51Speaker 1: could legally do to push the case forward. However, the
- 28:54Speaker 1: case was still receiving a ton of coverage in the press,
- 28:57Speaker 1: and to a lot of people, it looked like the
- 28:59Speaker 1: NYPD was just sort of dropping the ball here. But
- 29:02Speaker 1: then on December 16th, so three weeks after Catherine's murder,
- 29:06Speaker 1: the news coverage that had annoyed Goetz so much actually
- 29:10Speaker 1: ended up giving him exactly what he needed. That day,
- 29:14Speaker 1: a woman called the NYPD because of something she had
- 29:17Speaker 1: seen on the front page of one of the newspapers
- 29:20Speaker 1: in New York. And what this woman said led Goetz
- 29:23Speaker 1: directly to Catherine's killer. Based on forensic evidence and numerous interviews,
- 29:32Speaker 1: this is what police believe happened to Catherine Woods on
- 29:35Speaker 1: the evening of November 27, 2005. Shortly after 6.40 p.m., the
- 29:46Speaker 1: killer climbed the stairs inside of Catherine's apartment building. They
- 29:49Speaker 1: knew that at that very moment, she'd be getting ready
- 29:52Speaker 1: for another shift at Flashdancers. And the fact that she
- 29:55Speaker 1: even worked there secretly really bothered the killer way more
- 29:59Speaker 1: than they would ever let on. The idea of Catherine
- 30:01Speaker 1: dancing and giving her attention to other men made the
- 30:04Speaker 1: killer so jealous they couldn't even stand it. Now, the
- 30:07Speaker 1: killer had tried to talk with Catherine and win her over,
- 30:11Speaker 1: but she had rejected him. So the time for talking
- 30:14Speaker 1: was over. And so the killer quietly walked up to
- 30:17Speaker 1: the door of apartment 2D and reached down and turned
- 30:20Speaker 1: the handle, which was unlocked. As they slipped silently into
- 30:24Speaker 1: the apartment, the killer brought out the knife that they
- 30:26Speaker 1: had hidden inside of their sweatshirt. But then something they
- 30:29Speaker 1: had not anticipated happened. There was this dog lying on
- 30:33Speaker 1: the apartment floor that got up and began to bark
- 30:36Speaker 1: at them. For a moment, the killer thought about just
- 30:38Speaker 1: abandoning the plan and leaving. But then Catherine, alerted by
- 30:42Speaker 1: the dog, came out of the bedroom and looked right
- 30:45Speaker 1: at the killer and saw the knife in their hand.
- 30:48Speaker 1: Catherine screamed and ran right back into her bedroom, the
- 30:51Speaker 1: very bedroom that she had made explicitly off-limits to the killer.
- 30:55Speaker 1: And just thinking about that, the surge of anger suddenly
- 30:58Speaker 1: overtook them, and the killer charged into the room after her.
- 31:02Speaker 1: Catherine was already on the other side of the bed,
- 31:04Speaker 1: lifting up the mattress as a sort of barricade. But
- 31:07Speaker 1: the killer just forced their way past it and they
- 31:09Speaker 1: grabbed Catherine from behind. But Catherine, she fought back. She
- 31:13Speaker 1: began thrashing around, doing everything she could to break free.
- 31:17Speaker 1: But she couldn't. And so they struggled and began smashing
- 31:20Speaker 1: into the furniture and knocking things down all over the room.
- 31:24Speaker 1: And it was around this point that the killer lifted
- 31:27Speaker 1: up that knife they had brought and they slit her
- 31:29Speaker 1: neck as deep as they could. But even then, even
- 31:32Speaker 1: with this fatal wound, Catherine kept on fighting. And she
- 31:36Speaker 1: was so vicious that the killer actually had to brace
- 31:39Speaker 1: themselves against a wall just to keep their balance. And
- 31:42Speaker 1: in the chaos, the killer didn't realize, you know, as
- 31:45Speaker 1: they're fighting off Catherine, that they had placed a bloody
- 31:48Speaker 1: hand on the wall, leaving a print behind. Finally, when
- 31:53Speaker 1: Catherine fell to the floor, the killer was still blinded
- 31:56Speaker 1: with their rage. And they just got down there and
- 31:58Speaker 1: began stabbing her over and over again. And then finally,
- 32:02Speaker 1: when Catherine stopped moving, the killer just jumped up and
- 32:06Speaker 1: ran out of the apartment. But when they got into
- 32:09Speaker 1: the hallway, they realized that black dog that had barked
- 32:12Speaker 1: at them had gotten out. Now, the killer wanted the
- 32:15Speaker 1: dog back in the apartment, but the dog was clearly
- 32:17Speaker 1: on edge. You know, they were still barking at the killer.
- 32:20Speaker 1: And so instead, the killer just shut the apartment door,
- 32:23Speaker 1: trapping the dog in the hallway. And then the killer
- 32:25Speaker 1: fled the apartment building out the back door where there
- 32:28Speaker 1: was no security camera. And for weeks, the killer was
- 32:31Speaker 1: not caught until their violent past came back to bite them.
- 32:36Speaker 1: Several weeks after Catherine's murder, a young woman who didn't
- 32:40Speaker 1: know Catherine was walking down the streets of New York
- 32:43Speaker 1: when she noticed a newspaper. And on the cover of
- 32:46Speaker 1: this newspaper was plastered the face of the killer. who
- 32:50Speaker 1: was currently a suspect in a murder case. And this
- 32:53Speaker 1: woman was horrified because she knew this person. They, the killer,
- 32:58Speaker 1: had sexually assaulted her about a year earlier, but she
- 33:02Speaker 1: had never filed a police report. But after seeing that
- 33:05Speaker 1: this horrible person was being actively accused of murder, she
- 33:09Speaker 1: called the NYPD and she told them what she knew.
- 33:12Speaker 1: And the NYPD Special Victims Unit used this woman's accusation
- 33:16Speaker 1: as the basis to arrest the killer. And finally, once
- 33:20Speaker 1: they were under arrest, Goetz was able to get their handprint.
- 33:24Speaker 1: And those prints did in fact match the bloody handprint
- 33:28Speaker 1: found on Catherine's wall. They belonged to Catherine's on-again, off-again boyfriend,
- 33:34Speaker 1: Paul Cortez. David's suspicions of Paul had been right all along.
- 33:39Speaker 1: Paul was a creep who had assaulted at least one
- 33:41Speaker 1: other woman before he killed Catherine. Data collected from nearby
- 33:45Speaker 1: cell towers would prove that Paul was near Catherine's apartment
- 33:48Speaker 1: building immediately before her murder, and he had been calling
- 33:52Speaker 1: her over and over again. When she ignored his calls,
- 33:56Speaker 1: Paul waited until he saw David leave the apartment to
- 33:59Speaker 1: go get his car, and then he hustled upstairs to
- 34:02Speaker 1: the apartment, knowing Catherine would be alone. Even though David
- 34:06Speaker 1: was only gone for 20 minutes, that was still long
- 34:08Speaker 1: enough for Paul to get inside the apartment, murder Catherine,
- 34:12Speaker 1: and slip away unnoticed. Paul was arrested about a month
- 34:16Speaker 1: after Catherine's murder on Wednesday, December 23, 2005. He was
- 34:20Speaker 1: found guilty of second-degree murder and sentenced to 25 years
- 34:24Speaker 1: to life. Thank you so much for watching. Let me
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