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"When Do You Stop Being a 'Former Republican'?" (Thursday September 18, 2025, Hour 1) · First Thing Today with Joe Thomas

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Speaker 1: First Thing Today on the Talk Media Network by Joe Thomas,
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the second most famous Thomas and Charlotte'sville George.
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Good Joe has everything. All the treasure meets the one
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Speaker 3: Joe.
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Speaker 4: Bless you for letting me be of service to you.
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I want to be sharing a little bit of the
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cacophony that is Morning's, regardless of which coast you're on,
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you know, and where, whether it's the wrap up or
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the beginning morning. As I've said, it's fanciful in my
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mind that morning is derived from some ancient Greek word
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meaning last minute, because that it seems to be where
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all last minute tasks get deposited this morning. Thank you
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at four three four eight eight two four two one seven.
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Text messages like Bob listening on Freedom nine seventy in Oregon.
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Good morning, Joe. I have a great show. Hopefully you'll
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be able to use one of these on your show.
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My favorite is no amount of evidence will ever persuade
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an idiot that is Mark Twain, and I think that's
1:45
prescient for the world we're in right now. But Bob,
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I don't know if you or anyone else is suffering this,
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But this, this Charlie Kirk endorsement tour that people seemed
2:00
to be on trying to find ways to associate themselves
2:05
with the assassinated leader of Turning Point USA, has grown
2:09
wearisome to me, and to be fair. At the morning
2:15
of September eleventh, we managed to squeeze a little time
2:19
in for my last sit down with Charlie Kirk. I
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used to run a radio station that carried his show.
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We were one of the very early affiliates and several
2:32
nice visits with Charlie. Came by and sat with me
2:35
for half hour or so at seapack down in Florida.
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I think it was twenty twenty two and we played
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some clips of it. But gosh, oh man, I'm getting
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to the point where I'm up to my eyeballs and
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people who want to tell me how great pals they
2:52
were with Charlie Kirk, or how Charlie Kirk does. I
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mean the other side. Don Scott, leader of the Virginia
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Day Democrats, has taken it to a whole new level.
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And we'll get delve into that. But this, you know,
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it reminds me of a little bit. You remember the
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singing group Sonny and chaer Well. Sonny Bono, after he
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left singing, became a US Congressman, a Republican from California,
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and he died tragically in a skiing accident. And I
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remember at the time I was doing mornings for some
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radio stations in Ocean City, Maryland, where Sonny used to
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vacation frequently. We would see him. You know, it was
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the one paparazzi moment that the local newspaper could get Sonny, Oh,
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it's a Sonny coming out of the bearded clam and
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he just it was proximity to d C and all
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of that. And I remember the front page of the
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local newspaper had an interview with a local realtor that
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I thought was, you know, a low point in my life.
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Little that I realized my life had a lot of
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miles left in it and there were going to be
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new attempts at the lowest point of my life. But
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this realtor told the daily newspaper in Ocean City, Maryland
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that though they had never met Sonny Bono, they were
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sure that if he was ever going to buy a
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home in Ocean City, he would have purchased it from them.
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He would have And I just read that. I was
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so incredulous that somebody could have that much. I don't know,
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call it kutspa. I know you're not supposed to speak
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like that. We're supposed to be against Israel in this
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and therefore anything that sounds Israeli, like hutzpah, you're not
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supposed to use in talk radio anymore, or your emails
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will blow up. And I don't mean that literally. Our
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first things for this Thursday morning, ABC has suspended their
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late night show, produced by Jimmy Kimmel and hosted by
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Sam for a comment. We hit new lows over the weekend,
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Kimmel told his audience on Tuesday, with the Maga Gang
5:10
desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk
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as anything other than one of them doing everything they
5:18
can to score political points from it. Federal Communication Commissioner
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Brendan Carr had urged local broadcasters to stop airing the
5:28
show on ABC. Former President Barack Obama finally is weighing
5:33
in a week later after the assassination of Charlie Kirk,
5:36
calling it a horrific tragedy, adding political leaders should be
5:40
clear and forthright in condemning violence on both sides. President
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Donald Trump Wednesday announced he was designating the movement Antifa,
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which is an acronym for anti fascist, as a major
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terrorist organization in the follow up to the assassination of
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Charlie Kirk. Federal Appeals Court Wednesday refused for now to
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allow the administration to proceed with planned overhauls of the
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Department of Health and Human Services, which would involve reorganizing
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several agencies and firing thousands of federal employees. All thirteen
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Democrats on the Senate Armed Services Committee want panel chair
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Roger Wiker of Mississippi to hold a hearing with Pentagon
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officials to address the administration's increasing use of the military
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National Guard troops in American cities. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin
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nettan Yahoo said the President has invited him to the
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White House in two weeks, and the Federal Reserve cut
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its key interest rate by a quarter point Wednesday and
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is projected to do so twice more this year, according
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to Fed chair Jerome Powell. And those are some of
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Speaker 1: On your to do list. Putting the radio on is
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the first thing today?
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Speaker 3: Change?
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Speaker 4: So is there is there a more? I don't know
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if there's a rule today. It's like the five second rule.
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You tell me at four three four eight A two
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four two one seven? First off, do you use the
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five second rule? Do you live by the five second rule?
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Do you double dip the guacamal? But I know there
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are certain things in business. There's a period of time,
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you know, and in some states like Pennsylvania, there are
14:26
legal definitions as to how long and what are the
14:30
requirements if you post an going out of business sale.
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So if you if you own a business, I know
14:36
this in Pennsylvania that if you post that you're going
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out of business, you actually have to go out of business.
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I know that seems that seems like such a strange
14:49
thing for a state government to mandate. But they were
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having a problem in Pennsylvania of businesses just having endless
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going out of business sales. I don't know why this
15:04
is a state issue or something that a governing body
15:08
needs to weigh into, but I do know that they
15:11
have set a period of time that you can have
15:13
a going out of business sale for and then after
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I think it's three months. In Pennsylvania, it's been years
15:20
since I worked there. I know we have our friends
15:23
in Altoona and State College on some days joining on
15:28
the program. So if you're there and you know, is
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it three months or six months within that period of
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time you actually have to be out of business, there's
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a filing, and I think it has to do with
15:40
your state business license. More of this fingers in other
15:44
people's pie stuff that the government has mischaracterized its role
15:48
into playing. But it's there, and I know that rule exists,
15:55
is there, and there are rules of good policy, like
15:58
you can only call yourself new for a period of
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time before. For example, the radio station that we flagship
16:08
from my wife and I purchased it so that you
16:11
know we had our own radio station, really stand a
16:14
pretty good chance of not getting fired at my age
16:17
if I own the place. But we and we believe
16:22
in local radio, and we believe in being a good
16:25
servant to local businesses. But for the first year of
16:28
its operation, we called it the New WTN, And after
16:36
a year I said, hey, we need to brand us
16:38
as something else now because we're not new anymore. So
16:44
there are both standards and practices that have a limitation,
16:49
a statute of limitations on things. I want to know
16:52
if there's a statute of limitations on the phrase former Republican.
16:59
I ask this in Wyoming and Ohio and Virginia, where
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we are up to our eyeballs and former Republicans. Maybe
17:10
maybe it will be at the end of the Trump administration,
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watch me tweak some people whenever that is. Did you
17:21
see somebody just yelling in the car next to you
17:23
on the highway? Yeah, they were listening. What do you
17:26
may wherever that is, he's gotta wave just have just
17:32
playing with your head, as George Carlin once titled one
17:34
of his albums. But here in Virginia we have, you know,
17:40
a subcategory bigfoot of ficionado, spouse of a whiskey distiller
17:51
who wanted to be governor so we could run the
17:53
Alcoholic Beverage Commission, and former Republican congressman. And it's true
18:02
he got himself elected to Congress for a few years,
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I think one term as a Republican, and when he
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lost his re election campaign and I could tell him how.
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As a matter of fact, I did tell him how,
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and he didn't listen to me. So I really don't
18:21
give a crap what he thinks of me. The Wrigler,
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as we like to call him here in Central Virginia,
18:27
has resurfaced after some time. He was the chief investigating
18:32
officer for Adam Kinsinger and Liz Cheney on the January
18:38
sixth Commission. You may recall he was the data based
18:41
guy who never seemed to discuss any data in his bloviations.
18:46
He would just get on the TV and go, I'm
18:48
a data guy. I'm a data guy, and that's why
18:51
I like the data, because data doesn't lie. But I
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do well. The last part was an inference. But so
18:59
he's back. He's shown up and so important to him
19:04
that he did a TV interview to support the Democrat
19:09
running for governor of Virginia, Abigail Spamburger. From what I
19:15
can only tell from the camera angle, is a cell
19:18
phone placed in his lap while he was driving along.
19:23
And I thought James Carville took this stuff cavalierly doesn't
19:29
take it seriously. And how if I was the reporter,
19:33
and this is how, I'm going to put my phone
19:36
down on my crotch now and you can ask me
19:38
whatever question you want, because I'm going down the interstate.
19:42
So this is the report from our local CBS affiliate,
19:45
Sarah Allen, who's actually a terrific reporter.
19:48
Speaker 13: A very good The former Republican lawmakers are featured in
19:51
a new ad from Abigail Spamberger's campaign backing the Democratic
19:55
gubernatorial nominee, and one of them is former fifth District
19:58
Representative Denver. Then why are you endorsing ab Gail Stamberger
20:03
for governor?
20:05
Speaker 16: I think it is specifically policy based. I think that
20:07
is the reason I'm endorsing Abigail. And you know, I
20:10
have a pretty in depth knowledge of healthcare. And when
20:13
you look at the big beautiful bill, and when you
20:15
look at the individuals like Doves that were making decisions
20:17
on these type of cuts, I think it's absolutely devastating
20:20
to world Virginia, especially in South Side and Southwest one.
20:25
Speaker 4: So again typical Wriggleman style. The regular manages to say
20:29
a lot of things and none of them actually connect
20:32
to one another. And last time I checked, his distillery
20:37
was for sale here in Virginia. They were moving all
20:40
their operations to Pennsylvania. So I don't know what his
20:43
steak is in the Virginia gubernatorial race except that he
20:47
and Barbara Comstock also somebody who didn't keep their seat
20:51
because they lost it, but want to blame the political
20:55
party for it and get them so some notoriety for
21:01
it and sell maybe some books and whatnot. Have weighed in. Now,
21:06
this isn't the first time Rigular has endorse span Berger.
21:10
He endorsed her for reelection in her last congressional race
21:15
as well. But what I want to know is I
21:18
don't recall the press ever referring to President Reagan as
21:22
former Democrat governor of California. Ronald Reagan maybe a few
21:28
times in nineteen seventy six when they were the Republican
21:33
media was trying to tar and feather him for being
21:36
a former Democrat, so you have to support Jerry Ford.
21:40
But after nineteen seventy six, I don't recall Ronald Reagan
21:44
ever being referred to as former Democrat. So that is
21:51
it different if it's if you're a former Republican you
21:54
get to keep that title forever or is it just
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as long as you keep bashing current Republicans.
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Speaker 7: I'm ANDREWS. Saul, Commission of Self Security. I'm here to
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warn you about telephone scammers pretending to be government employees.
25:11
Some of these scammers may say threatening things like you
25:14
will be arrested if you don't make payments or provide
25:17
personal information. Do not fall for these tricks. These calls
25:22
are not from US. Real Social Security employees will never
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threaten you for information or money. If you receive a
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call like this, hang up. Never give the call of
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your personal information like your Social Security number or bank account,
25:38
or send money in any form cash, gift cards, wire transfers,
25:43
or prepaid debit cards. Report the call to our law
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enforcement on the Office of the Inspector General at OYG
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Speaker 10: Uh oh, Brad's buzzed, Oh yeah, yeah, he's starting with
25:59
the woots.
26:01
Speaker 11: And now a speech.
26:03
Speaker 12: I just want to say that friendship is about heart,
26:06
art and brain.
26:08
Speaker 8: Who's with me?
26:09
Speaker 10: Good thing is he knows when he's buzzed, and my
26:11
brain is saying, when it's time to go home, Somebody
26:14
call me a ride.
26:15
Speaker 18: Love that guy, me too.
26:17
Speaker 19: Know your buzzed warning signs, call for a ride when
26:20
it's time to go home.
26:21
Speaker 8: Buzz driving is drunk driving.
26:24
Speaker 14: Did you know that more than half our household energy
26:26
costs go to heating and cooling. Energy efficiency isn't just
26:30
good for the environment, It means lower utility bills too.
26:34
One way to reduce your energy waste is a home
26:37
energy assessment. Your utility company can help, or you can
26:41
learn how to do it yourself at energysavers dot gov.
26:44
That's energysavers dot gov.
26:46
Speaker 4: You'll learn to look for.
26:47
Speaker 14: Air leaks around windows and doors, check ducks for holes,
26:51
and improve your insulation. Another time to cut energy costs
26:55
is when you shop for a new appliance. Look for
26:57
the energy Star logo and read the energy guide label.
27:01
And there are day to day things you can do.
27:03
Lower your thermostat in winter and raise it in the summer,
27:07
close fireplace stampers when they're not in use, and keep
27:10
air filters clean. For more tips on saving money by
27:13
reducing your energy waste, check out FTC dot gov slash green.
27:19
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protection agency, for those.
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a part of me, like my arms and legs, so
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I'll be his no time.
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your strength.
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Speaker 4: The sounds.
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Speaker 1: Quit on a need to know basis, because you need
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to know. The first thing today.
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Speaker 4: Live from the frontal cortex of every authoritarian out there.
28:36
We are first thing today. Thank you for letting me
28:39
be of service to you. Joe Thomas, it's my name,
28:42
and you tell me yours when you get with us,
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and if you text or email, shoot us a notice
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to where you're listening. And sometimes we discover oh wow, uh,
28:53
and that's neat to meet new people, because that adds
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to the to the goulash, to the gumbo of what
29:01
we do. Because your opinion on how the news is
29:04
impacting you is very important. I want to delve into
29:08
this maelstrom of he said. She said on hate speech
29:20
and Attorney General Pambondi saying that they want to put
29:25
together a task force to go after hate speech. And
29:31
I'll remind you you may be joining us in progress.
29:34
We spend an inordinate I think sometimes amount of time
29:37
talking about adjectives and how you we don't need to
29:46
modify all these things. You know, crime is crime, murder
29:53
is murder, and somehow I feel like the more we
29:58
add modify to these the weaker they become, the cheaper
30:05
they become. However, in this particular instance, and this is
30:10
where your representatives need to be careful, and the president
30:15
amongst them, though in England at the moment, because Pam
30:21
Bondi also was in Florida, the progenitor of red flag
30:28
laws that put gun owners on the hot seat for
30:33
being guilty until proven innocent, that of course have been
30:40
proven time and time again to do nothing, if nothing else,
30:43
to exacerbate volatile situations and in most cases just make
30:50
people less likely to partake in their Second Amendment rights
30:55
or to find ways to do it without public scrutiny.
31:00
Of course, then makes them criminals in a whole different
31:03
way because the state says so. So when Pam Bondi
31:08
says she wants to get a commission together to go
31:11
after hate speech, you need to be paying attention from
31:18
my seat and a lot of you in Florida, whether
31:22
it's on ro O D in Daytona or HBO in Tampa,
31:27
either side of the coast to coast in Florida. You
31:30
know what's happened with red flag laws. And Rick Scott,
31:34
still around two, also wants to get his name attached
31:39
to the tributes and the New World Post. Charlie Kirk
31:47
let me, you know, come up with ways to punish
31:52
hate speech. And Horace Cooper was on this program and
31:59
knows of things. He managed to successfully argue against the
32:04
Civil Rights Act as a black man in front of
32:08
a equally divided Supreme Court, successfully beat back parts of
32:15
the preclearance in the post Civil War reparational punishments against
32:21
Southern States. Was on this program Monday Morning Rights Notes.
32:33
They all run together here it's just like, was it
32:36
Monday morn, Yeah, it was Monday Monday morning. We played
32:40
played it back again on Tuesday morning. So if you
32:42
want to go to the archives at Joe Thomas in
32:45
the Morning dot com, there's a podcast page previous episodes
32:52
and pre loved. They're new to you if you didn't
32:54
hear them, because we do have a four hour program,
32:59
but we wanted we brought Horace Cooper back into this
33:01
first hour, which is the one that's carried into most
33:05
of the markets Colorado Springs and Utah and Granwich, Connecticut
33:10
and all points in between, Lowell, Massachusetts. But he said
33:18
to us, as a jurist of great esteem, watch out
33:26
for what is done in the name of Horace Cooper
33:32
in Charlie Kirk when it comes to these paradigm shifting reactions,
33:45
because what will happen is authoritarians, regardless of political party,
33:52
will use these inflection points. President Trump used the phrase
33:57
inflection point. President Obama used the term inflection point. Another
34:01
place you should probably pay attention as they did on
34:06
September eleventh, two thousand and one, and ironically, the Kirk
34:11
assassination happening in such close conjunction to September eleventh, twenty
34:17
fourth anniversary. I think it's important that when and you
34:22
and I discussed it, and then add Horace Cooper, who
34:25
is much more estimable jurist to that. Watch out. Norm
34:36
busting is what Horace called it on Monday's program, These
34:41
norm busting moments where people like Pam Bondi and Rick
34:46
Scott come along and say, well, great tragedy gives us
34:55
great opportunity to circumvent further the Bill of Rights. Gosh,
35:04
you know, Constitution just two hundred and thirty eight years old,
35:07
still has that new government smell, and they come up
35:15
with more unconstitutional eddies and currents that go around your
35:21
constitutional rights to free speech. And I know again it
35:27
will be seen as bad form because there are Democrats
35:32
that are saying this, but there are an equal number
35:34
of conservatives saying the same thing, many of them, even Republicans.
35:41
Speech is speech. And I've said it before and I'll
35:45
say it again. My campaign is let them keep talking.
35:50
The more they talk, the dumber they sound. The more
35:54
they talk, the more hateful they sound. The more they talk,
35:57
the more vile they sound. And the only way fascists, dictators,
36:05
authoritarians can be stopped is if you know who they
36:11
are before they get into authority. So you want to
36:21
drag them out into the town square, you want everyone
36:24
to see them, because remember, one of the things that
36:28
is troubling to me is that we have become so
36:34
siloed off that if and this was something that aside
36:39
from all the people who try to claim that they
36:41
know what Charlie Kirk was all about, and this is
36:46
happening at a speed that is unheertofore ever seen. Everyone
36:53
wants to associate themselves with Charlie Kirk. Everyone wants to
37:02
be the next The epithets from the left is anyone
37:05
who's a conservative just wants to be the next Charlie Kirk.
37:08
Unfortunately a lot of people in the commentariat that's exactly
37:11
what they do want to be. But when they talk
37:20
about commissions to regulate and go after hate speech, red
37:26
flags and I use that phrase intentionally, should go up
37:30
in your head. Not the kind of red flags Pambondi
37:33
and Rick Scott brought along in the wake of the
37:37
Trayvon Martin con job in Florida. And just because you
37:46
know there are Democrats who are bringing it up, don't
37:50
discount it don't discount it. You tell me in Florida
37:55
four three four eight eight two four two one seven
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text messager, I don't know an again and why should
38:00
I care about it? Yeah.
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Speaker 12: We the people are guaranteed five freedoms in the First Amendment.
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Speaker 3: Religion, freedom of the press, freedom to peaceably assemble, freedom
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Speaker 21: English language is less convincing than probably.
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Speaker 1: Amaze your friends here at First Thing Today by Joe Thomas.
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Speaker 4: You've heard the phrase democracy has been weaponized. Right, You've
44:27
probably heard that somewhere in and about your travels. I'm
44:31
sure democracy doesn't have to be weaponized. Democracy is a weapon.
44:37
It exists. This is like saying my rifle was weaponized.
44:44
What you want to say is freedom is under attack
44:52
by people using democracy or as we like to call
44:59
it here on this part democratsy as in Nazi the
45:10
idea that democracy is what we have and it's this
45:17
cult following. It is a tool. It is a tool
45:22
by which consensus can be seen. But over the past
45:30
twenty years we've bastardized how it's operated. We care little.
45:36
See the suit federal government trying to get Portland or
45:41
Oregon writ large to show them their efforts in making
45:46
sure only Oregonians are on their voting roles, and you'll
45:57
have the well, they're trying to take people of the
46:01
out of your neighborhood. Are they citizens? They're people in
46:05
your neighborhood? Are they citizens? They're people? Yeah, this is
46:11
the grand battle. While ninety percent of the commentariat is
46:16
out there still trying to associate themselves with Charlie Kirk.
46:21
We've got to roll up the sleeves and realize what's
46:24
going through the back door here. It's more of this
46:28
feeling I have that we're in the midst of a
46:30
bar brawl, and the people that started the bar brawl
46:33
are in the midst of emptying out the cash register
46:36
till so they can sneak out while we're brawling on
46:39
the floor. Where's Klaus Schwab, right, Now, no, mister Bond,
46:48
I expect you to die. Guy's got to stop picking
46:52
Bond villains to head the World Economic Forum. You know it,
46:59
read piece in I think one of the Arizona papers.
47:04
Democracy being weaponized. Well, no, democracy is a weapon, and
47:11
here's how the weapon works. You know, first you load
47:14
the black powder in it. And by loading the black
47:18
powder in it, I mean you get as few people
47:21
voting as possible, and the zelots for unending mail in balloting,
47:37
unseen absentees mailing in their stuff from Lord knows where.
47:42
And understand that this is this is the explosive device
47:48
in this is to drive down voter turnout. Because once
47:55
you've driven down voter turnout, now the weaponization of it,
47:59
if you want to use that phrase, can follow through.
48:11
So you turned down the number of people showing up
48:15
to an election, so you can get a small number
48:19
of zelots convinced they are at the moment of the
48:25
abilities to have their lives improved by some elected official
48:31
or some mandate that's not going to do anything, but
48:35
makes them feel better that they can put a sign
48:38
in their yard that they virtue signal when your voter
48:47
turned out. What Caro wrote me something the other day,
48:50
also listening to us in Oregon that one of the
48:55
elections in Oregon was.
49:00
Speaker 1: Here.
49:00
Speaker 4: It is near the end of the last Oregon election,
49:03
only eighteen percent of the people had voted. I didn't
49:07
look it up on the Oregon voter registration website. That
49:11
could be a local election. I don't know, but if
49:15
eighteen people and I've seen elections with turnouts and the
49:18
twenty five percent, so eighteen percent is not a shocking
49:22
number to me, especially if you're in a state like
49:25
Oregon where everything is blue. I live in Charlottesville, and
49:30
this Charlottesville. When somebody sees somebody that member of the
49:40
Republican Party, you're treated like a novelty act, like you're
49:43
the bearded woman. And voter turnout is abysmal because there's
49:51
no real urgency to get out and vote. Because if
49:56
you're a Democrat, your party's going to win anyway, and
49:58
if you're a Republican, you're party is going to lose anyway.
50:02
At least that's the mindset. That's how the gas lighting works.
50:07
You're never gonna win anything. Why even play the game?
50:14
So you get the voter turnout down into the twenty
50:17
five or thirty five percent? What was it, Abraham Lincoln tautos.
50:21
You can fool some of the people all of the time,
50:24
and all of the people some of the time, but
50:26
you can't fool all of the people all of the time. See,
50:29
that's how they want to run. Is you get that
50:33
small enough number twenty five thirty percent voter turnout? Well,
50:40
now you only need fifteen percent of your population to
50:47
believe whatever nonsense you're throwing out there. And when you
50:52
add together, you know folks who want to virtue signal
50:55
through their political yard signs and the people who were
51:01
actually in need. Getting to fifteen percent is easy. So
51:07
you can throw off anything you want if you can
51:10
get the voter turnout down. And we're going to watch
51:14
it here in our flagship early voting because we have
51:19
forty five days. This was the COVID. Oh, we're scared.
51:25
We don't want people to come in and infect our
51:27
state employees at the polling place. However, you can go
51:32
to the alcoholic beverage store anytime. You're like, state runs
51:37
the liquor stores. So the state run liquor stores were open,
51:41
but the state run polling places were not. So we
51:46
continue because Republicans have not been able to muster themselves
51:50
enough of a majority, even though they had the governor's
51:53
mansion for four years. Couldn't get themselves a majority in
51:56
the House or Senate to pass a bill to even
52:00
even and you will to talk about a classic Overton
52:04
window example. They can't even get election day back to
52:10
election day. The best they can do is offer up
52:14
one week, which is immediately called poll taxes and Jim
52:19
Crow three point zero and all the other epithets just
52:25
designed to drive down voter turnout. No, it's the rhetoric
52:29
of you'll never go to win. So democracy already is
52:37
a weapon, and democracy is being used against your freedom.
52:41
And if we let enough low voter turnouts, watch for
52:44
the red flag laws, watch for the hate speech regulations,
52:48
watch for all that coming soon to a poll near you.
52:52
Speaker 18: Crime across the country is at an all time high.
52:54
It feels like even a family road trip is taking
52:57
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53:00
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53:17
free qualification process to answer a few questions and applied
53:20
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53:23
between states, when you're issued a new Hampshire concealed Carry permit,
53:27
you can legally carry in any state that recognizes your
53:30
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