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The Real-Life Story Behind Baby Reindeer: The Facts That Surprised Everyone · The conspiracy

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  Speaker 2: me Krista Stalker.
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  Speaker 2: And today, we are talking about just that. Specifically, the
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  Speaker 2: new Netflix original series, Baby Reindeer. When I first stumbled
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  Speaker 2: across this show, I just thought it'd be kind of
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  Speaker 2: out to be pretty traumatizing to me.
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  Speaker 2: And then it's just gotten even crazier with the fact
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  Speaker 2: that it is a true story and the fact that
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  Speaker 2: the stalker herself has come out and gone on to
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  Speaker 2: Piers Morgan to refute the entire show. So let's get
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  Speaker 1: Okay, back to the video.
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  Speaker 2: So true crime miniseries are becoming ever more prominent online
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  Speaker 2: these days. Whether it be the result of vast amount
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  Speaker 2: of true crime podcasts pumping out more content than you
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  Speaker 2: could possibly digest, the genre is absolutely flourishing.
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  Speaker 1: Hence why I post true crime content.
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  Speaker 2: But we're seeing more unique and interesting takes on these
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  Speaker 2: retellings of true events that have grabbed the internet by
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  Speaker 2: the by the scrotum.
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  Speaker 1: Can you grab the scrotum? I don't really know. And
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  Speaker 1: giving them a nice tug.
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  Speaker 2: For reference of how many miniseries are coming out recently,
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  Speaker 2: Rotten Tomatoes has a top 50 list.
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  Speaker 1: And of them, more than 30 of them have come
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  Speaker 1: out since 2019.
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  Speaker 2: And because of the sheer volume of these series, it's
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  Speaker 2: kind of easy to miss the ones that are worth watching.
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  Speaker 2: But Baby Reindeer, in my opinion, is definitely one of them.
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  Speaker 2: For those of you who don't know, Baby Reindeer is
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  Speaker 2: the latest series that seeks to retell the story of
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  Speaker 2: a woman who would become obsessed with and stalk a
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  Speaker 2: man with some absolutely insane details that need to be
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  Speaker 2: seen to be believed. Baby Reindeer is one of Netflix's
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  Speaker 2: newest original miniseries detailing the story of specifically Donnie Dunn.
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  Speaker 2: And Donnie appears to just be a regular guy, just
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  Speaker 2: working at a bar while trying to pursue his dream
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  Speaker 2: of becoming a standup comedian.
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  Speaker 1: Same dude, just kidding.
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  Speaker 2: However, as soon as he meets a woman named Martha
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  Speaker 2: at the bar, his life begins to spiral out of control.
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  Speaker 2: So when Donnie first saw Martha walk into the bar,
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  Speaker 2: he saw a woman that was down on her luck,
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  Speaker 2: clearly troubled about something, and ended up giving her a
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  Speaker 2: cup of tea.
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  Speaker 3: A cuppa!
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  Speaker 2: If you will, on the house because she had no money,
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  Speaker 2: which would just be the launching point for all the
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  Speaker 2: events that would transpire over the next few years.
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  Speaker 1: So moral of the story is don't give up free
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  Speaker 1: cups of tea, I guess.
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  Speaker 2: But after this act of kindness, Martha would repeatedly show
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  Speaker 2: up at the bar every time Donnie was working. Every day,
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  Speaker 2: in fact. But at this point, she was just a
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  Speaker 2: regular at the bar. It wasn't that alarming yet. And
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  Speaker 2: they would actually start to build up a friendship with
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  Speaker 2: the frequent conversations that they would have. And it's important
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  Speaker 2: to note that Donnie really wasn't the kind of guy
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  Speaker 2: to make these kind of relationships quickly.
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  Speaker 1: He wasn't very charming.
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  Speaker 2: Despite him being a stand-up comedian, he actually struggled with that.
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  Speaker 2: So when Martha came into the picture, he just took
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  Speaker 2: advantage of that, and it felt good to be able
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  Speaker 2: to make somebody laugh like he did, because he made her.
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  Speaker 1: Laugh, my god.
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  Speaker 2: Because that's what Donnie wanted to do his whole life.
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  Speaker 2: He just wanted to make people laugh and Martha did that.
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  Speaker 2: So she was like fueling something in him and he
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  Speaker 2: was kind of just doing this to all the red
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  Speaker 2: flags that happened in the future. So Martha quickly would
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  Speaker 2: become obsessed with Donnie and he likewise would develop a
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  Speaker 2: very toxic attachment to Martha. But Martha wanted to be
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  Speaker 2: more than friends with Donnie and Donnie just wanted to
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  Speaker 2: remain friends. But Martha would strategically involve herself in his
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  Speaker 2: life by just showing up to the bar more than
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  Speaker 2: once a day, trying to involve herself in his life
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  Speaker 2: more and more as time went on. She'd become a clingy,
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  Speaker 2: toxic bitch, okay? And Donnie, at this point, feeling slightly uncomfortable,
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  Speaker 2: would let Martha do this because he would kind of
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  Speaker 2: just feel bad for her and also would be fueled
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  Speaker 2: by the fact that he made her laugh on a
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  Speaker 2: constant basis. But, like I said, Donnie was not interested
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  Speaker 2: in Martha. In fact, He was secretly dating a trans
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  Speaker 2: woman named Terry. And this is kind of where the
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  Speaker 2: lines would become blurred for Martha and Donnie. When Martha
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  Speaker 2: went to the bar one time, she was talking about
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  Speaker 2: how she bought a new property and that it was
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  Speaker 2: fully furnished, but she just needed to hang her curtains.
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  Speaker 1: Don't like that, but you know what I mean, right?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. And there was plenty of people around at this time.
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  Speaker 2: Donnie worked with a bunch of other guys, so they
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  Speaker 2: were all kind of joking around with her. And since
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  Speaker 2: Donnie was in a secret relationship with a trans woman
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  Speaker 2: at the time because he wasn't ready to come out
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  Speaker 2: with that relationship, He played along with Martha and the
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  Speaker 2: guy's joke, basically. And he would tell Martha, I'll hang
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  Speaker 2: your curtains.
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  Speaker 1: He said it better.
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  Speaker 2: And he would say this in a joking manner, though,
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  Speaker 2: causing everyone in the bar to laugh. Except for Martha.
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  Speaker 2: Martha would take it extremely seriously and literally. And Donnie's
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  Speaker 2: joke would just cause her to become extremely more obsessed
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  Speaker 2: and creepy. This is when she would actually become a stalker.
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  Speaker 2: sending him thousands of really weird emails, waiting for him
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  Speaker 2: at the bus stop outside of his house, showing up
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  Speaker 2: at his comedy shows unannounced. And despite what Donnie would
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  Speaker 2: tell her, just really trying to make her just a friend,
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  Speaker 2: she would just hear what she wanted to hear and
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  Speaker 2: believe what she wanted to believe. Donnie could literally just
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  Speaker 2: be completely transparent saying, I just want to be friends
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  Speaker 2: with you. And he doesn't have feelings for her, but
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  Speaker 2: it would get twisted in her head and she would
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  Speaker 2: be like a really sick game to her. There'd be
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  Speaker 2: this really creepy scene where they're in like a back
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  Speaker 2: alley kind of place together. And he's telling her that
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  Speaker 2: he doesn't like her. And she just plays tag with
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  Speaker 2: him after that, like really creepily. And he's just like, Martha, stop.
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  Speaker 1: And she's like, tag.
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  Speaker 2: Tag like bitch I would have knocked that bitch in
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  Speaker 2: the water there was there was a body of water
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  Speaker 2: beside them and then she would go on to instead
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  Speaker 2: of tag him for like the 85th time she would
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  Speaker 2: grab him by the you know what and he would
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  Speaker 2: just freeze because he didn't know what the was going
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  Speaker 2: on and wouldn't do anything so at this point she's
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  Speaker 2: believing that they're in a relationship because of the way
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  Speaker 2: that Donnie's acting not necessarily because of the way he's
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  Speaker 2: acting but the lack of being extremely serious or going
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  Speaker 2: to the police or doing that and like letting her
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  Speaker 2: do certain things. Meanwhile, Donnie just wanted her to be
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  Speaker 2: a friend or just at this point, not really want
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  Speaker 2: her in his life at all. It's a very weird
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  Speaker 2: blurred line. And he gets called out in the show
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  Speaker 2: from his ex-girlfriend and from his ex-girlfriend mom that this
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  Speaker 2: is kind of a repeat characteristic of Donnie. And it's
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  Speaker 2: just kind of sad, but Martha would continue to stalk
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  Speaker 2: and yell obscenities at him in like the street when
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  Speaker 2: he was walking outside the bar, like heckling him at shows,
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  Speaker 2: or sitting outside his house yelling that he has a
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  Speaker 2: pig ugly girlfriend referencing Terry. Because now Martha is going
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  Speaker 2: into crazy bitch stalker mode. But all while, Donnie was
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  Speaker 2: still with his girlfriend Terry at the time, and when
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  Speaker 2: Martha found out about Terry, it was ugly.
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  Speaker 1: She would go on to brutally.
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  Speaker 2: Attack her, and this would be the first thing that
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  Speaker 2: would cause Donnie to finally go to the police to
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  Speaker 2: tell them about what Martha's been doing. And then after
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  Speaker 2: that incident, the police really didn't take it seriously because
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  Speaker 2: he didn't actually have proof. He wouldn't actually tell the
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  Speaker 2: police that Martha beat up Terry. He would just say
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  Speaker 2: that she's been sending him a lot of messages and
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  Speaker 2: emails and they would kind of brush it off. So
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  Speaker 2: then he would just kind of go on about his life,
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  Speaker 2: just not thinking much of it. And partly, I think
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  Speaker 2: this is because he kind of liked the attention and
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  Speaker 2: not in like a bad way. But at this point
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  Speaker 2: in the show, they do a massive pivot and they
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  Speaker 2: go back in time in Donnie's life and a new
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  Speaker 2: character enters into the show. It was a best friend
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  Speaker 2: slash brotherly figure to Donnie named Darian, a guy who
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  Speaker 2: pointed at being somewhat connected in the entertainment industry, which
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  Speaker 2: is the industry that Donnie has been trying to get
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  Speaker 2: into for years and years. So naturally, he was really
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  Speaker 2: eager to become friends with this guy. And Donnie would
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  Speaker 2: connect with Darian because Darian was super open and honest
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  Speaker 2: about his life. Darian was open about his sexuality, being gay,
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  Speaker 2: whereas Donnie at that point didn't really know what he was.
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  Speaker 2: He wasn't dating any trans women at this time, or
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  Speaker 2: any men. He was only dating a woman at this time,
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  Speaker 2: so he had not experimented outside of that. So he
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  Speaker 2: didn't really, he didn't even think of it at that point.
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  Speaker 2: Darian was also very open about his drug use as well,
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  Speaker 2: which will come into play. But Darian promised to help
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  Speaker 2: Donnie in his stand-up, and he did. And Donnie started
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  Speaker 2: to become successful in that, and Darian and Donnie's relationship.
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  Speaker 1: Grew and grew. through this specific episode mid-season.
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  Speaker 2: But one of the ways in which Darian would help
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  Speaker 2: Donnie is that he would invite Donnie over to his
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  Speaker 2: place and they would use copious amounts of drugs and
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  Speaker 2: write scripts while they were high. But each time Darian
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  Speaker 2: would get Donnie high, he would just keep giving him
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  Speaker 2: more and more to the point where Donnie would get
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  Speaker 2: completely incapacitated. And Donnie would notice Darian's red flags and
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  Speaker 2: he would notice that he would wake up incapacitated in
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  Speaker 2: Darian's apartment, but he wouldn't do anything about it because
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  Speaker 2: he kind of craves these toxic relationships and he wanted
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  Speaker 2: to move forward in the business. So he just kind
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  Speaker 2: of brushed it off, which again is very sad and
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  Speaker 2: very common.
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  Speaker 1: In the industry as well as just to work your
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  Speaker 1: way up.
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  Speaker 2: These people take advantage of the smaller people and they
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  Speaker 2: don't know what's right and what's wrong and what they
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  Speaker 2: should be doing and what they shouldn't be doing. And
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  Speaker 2: that's kind of, it's very prevalent in this show. And
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  Speaker 2: it kind of struck a chord with me in certain
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  Speaker 2: scenarios I've been in, in this industry so far. And
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  Speaker 2: in general, with the stocking stuff as well, I've, I've
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  Speaker 2: dealt with that during the my time online and before
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  Speaker 2: my time online.
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  Speaker 1: So this whole show just kind of was poking me
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  Speaker 1: in a lot of places.
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  Speaker 3: All right?
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  Speaker 2: And that's partly why I wanted to make a video
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  Speaker 2: about it as well, because I think it's important, honestly.
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  Speaker 2: And I think it's very validating to a lot of people,
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  Speaker 2: especially men that have dealt with these types of situations.
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  Speaker 2: But anyway, Darian would, like I said, drug Donnie to
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  Speaker 2: the point of incapacitation, and then Donnie would start to
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  Speaker 2: become aware that when he was waking up, he was
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  Speaker 2: being fondled and he would find, you know, spit in
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  Speaker 2: places that he shouldn't or semen in places that he
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  Speaker 2: shouldn't be, but he would continue to go to Darian's
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  Speaker 2: because he was finding success with him or being promised
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  Speaker 2: success with him, but the success was never coming. So
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  Speaker 2: eventually at one point, Donnie would finally realize what Darian
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  Speaker 2: was doing and realize that it wasn't okay and he
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  Speaker 2: would leave and never speak to Darian again. But this
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  Speaker 2: would spiral him into trying to figure out who he was.
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  Speaker 2: He would completely break down and realize that he doesn't
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  Speaker 2: know if he was gay or if he was straight
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  Speaker 2: or if he was something else completely altogether. So he
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  Speaker 2: kind of went off on this self-saboteur rampage, sleeping with
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  Speaker 2: kind of everybody and anybody that he could find. In
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  Speaker 2: my opinion, it was kind of almost like a form
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  Speaker 2: of trying to figure yourself out, but also a form
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  Speaker 2: of self-harm because the episode's rough.
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  Speaker 1: The episode's a rough, rough.
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  Speaker 2: Watch, but I think it's very important also because I
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  Speaker 2: think a lot of people can relate to that with confusion,
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  Speaker 2: with sexuality and going through that type of essay and
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  Speaker 2: feeling less than a human at that point, which you
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  Speaker 2: absolutely shouldn't. But then it In the next episode, we
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  Speaker 2: jump forward to continue on where we were in episodes previous,
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  Speaker 2: where Donnie is continuing to do his comedy shows. He's
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  Speaker 2: continued to be stalked by Martha, who is going to
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  Speaker 2: his comedy shows and heckling him constantly at them as well.
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  Speaker 2: But at one of these comedy shows, Donnie would completely
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  Speaker 2: break down and just tell the audience everything, including about
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  Speaker 2: what Darian did to him in the past. He would
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  Speaker 2: talk about Martha and how he ignored her attachment for
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  Speaker 2: his need for constant attention. He would talk about his
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  Speaker 2: trans girlfriend Terry and how lovely she is and how
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  Speaker 2: he completely ruined it. He would just try to hide
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  Speaker 2: her constantly and try to come up with excuses not
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  Speaker 2: to go in public with her. He would say the
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  Speaker 2: only thing he loved more than her was hating himself,
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  Speaker 2: which is so deep and terrible, man. This show's up
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  Speaker 2: in kind of the best way. This breakdown of his
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  Speaker 2: details that prioritizes attention and fame over making the tough
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  Speaker 2: choices that he knew would be better for him. And
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  Speaker 2: he would keep kind of backtracking over to the incidents
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  Speaker 2: that happened with Darian, just wanting that taste of fame.
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  Speaker 2: Even after repeat abuses and assaults, he would just continue
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  Speaker 2: to keep going.
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  Speaker 1: Back because he was so hungry for it.
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  Speaker 2: But this breakdown would be recorded by someone in the
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  Speaker 2: audience and would be uploaded to YouTube and soon after
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  Speaker 2: go viral, leading to all kinds of opportunities for him.
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  Speaker 2: And during this time, he wouldn't hear much about Martha, actually.
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  Speaker 2: But that would change when she called threatening to tell
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  Speaker 2: his family about the viral video of him talking about
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  Speaker 2: how he got graped by Darian and everything else he unloaded.
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  Speaker 2: But Donnie would decide to tell his parents before she could,
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  Speaker 2: and they were incredibly supportive of him. In fact, his
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  Speaker 2: dad would share, too, that he actually suffered from... When
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  Speaker 2: he was younger by a member of the Catholic Church.
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  Speaker 2: But this wasn't the first time Martha had actually weaponized
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  Speaker 2: Donnie's parents. She would actually call them previously saying that
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  Speaker 2: Donnie was in the hospital and other things of that nature.
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  Speaker 2: Just trying to wreak havoc on his life at all times.
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  Speaker 2: And now at this time, Donnie had gone to the
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  Speaker 2: police and now there was an ongoing case while Donnie
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  Speaker 2: was in this viral state and started to see success.
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  Speaker 2: And we would find out kind of mid-show that Martha
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  Speaker 2: was actually an incredibly well-known stalker and had previously done
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  Speaker 2: jail time. And this is kind of when Donnie would
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  Speaker 2: kind of make it click in his head like, oh shit,
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  Speaker 2: this is like a real life thing. And this is
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  Speaker 2: when in further episodes, he would call back to that
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  Speaker 2: to the police to say, this is who's stalking me.
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  Speaker 2: And he would finally have that validity and the police
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  Speaker 2: would believe him and start a proper case on her.
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  Speaker 2: But regardless of all this, the police weren't able to
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  Speaker 2: do a whole lot. Martha would be very compliant with
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  Speaker 2: them knowing how to deal with police because she had
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  Speaker 2: previously dealt with police with her other stalking incidences. So
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  Speaker 2: Donnie would take it upon himself to incriminate her by
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  Speaker 2: going to her house and he would tell her that
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  Speaker 2: he would agree to hang her curtains, a callback to
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: one of the earlier episodes.
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: She leaves him alone after that.
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: But he would tell her to put all that information
• 14:44
  Speaker 2: in an email, everything that she would want to do
• 14:46
  Speaker 2: to him in very explicit email, and to send it
• 14:49
  Speaker 2: to him so he would know what to do later
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: to her. But he wouldn't actually do that. He just
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: wanted evidence for the police to look at to say, hey, see?
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: See how crazy she is?
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: But... Martha, being the crazy bitch that she is, records
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: every single conversation she's ever had with Donnie and would
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: show that to police, making him look like the creep
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: in the scenario. But the police, knowing Martha's past, would
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: agree with him that they know that he was just
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: trying to incriminate her so he wouldn't be charged. But
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: Martha would finally go too far as to call Donnie
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: and to threaten to stab someone, at which point she
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: would finally be arrested and she wouldn't be seen again.
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: But one of the things that's really beautiful about this show,
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: in my opinion, is that the message behind it is
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: that Literally all these people in the show are troubled, broken,
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: and have some sort of trauma in their past. And
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: Donnie is perhaps equally as obsessed with Martha as she
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: is with him. He'd been categorizing all her messages, trying
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: to figure out what made her tick. And now that
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: she's gone, he's still going through all of her messages.
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: And the final scene in the show would be him
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: breaking down at the bar as he listens to a
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: voicemail that he had not yet listened to, talking about
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: how she came to call him Baby Reindeer. She had
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: a little toy reindeer as a kid that helped her
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: get through a lot and she keeps it even to
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: this day. And she projected the feelings that she had
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: towards the reindeer onto him ever since he gave her
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: that cup of tea as she broke down similarly at
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: the bar he'd worked at. And now he was sitting
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: at the bar breaking down. And when he can't pay
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: for his drink, the bartender gives it to him for free,
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: just like he'd done with Martha all those years ago.
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: And I don't actually think that the show is trying
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: to tell you.
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: Don't do good deeds or else you'll get Stopped. But
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: it's just telling the story of Donnie Dunn. But Donnie
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: Dunn is a fictional character. And at the start of
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: the video, we talked about true crime miniseries. And if
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: you watch the show, this in no way feels like
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: a true crime documentary style series, as it has actors
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: and actresses telling a story of toxic relationships and how
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: they play out. But this is based on true events
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: in the lives of real people. And this came to
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: many viewers' surprise, including my own.
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: I was like, what?
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: Because the events that occurred in the show Baby Reindeer
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: were based off of true events, according to Richard Gadd,
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: who played Donnie Dunn in the show.
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: No way. Which I think is awesome.
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: The fact that he played his own character, not the
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: fact that all that shit happened to him.
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: And lots of events shown.
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: are from bits and pieces of comedy routines during the ordeals.
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: And people naturally have tried to dissect which parts are
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: referenced from the show to real life. People are really
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: examining his comedy events. But what people don't understand is
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: that things that went on in the show weren't exactly
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: what happened in person. Some things are in the perspective
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: of Richard Gad from how he imagined them. Like people
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: not laughing during his routines at all. He stated that
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: he felt like no one was laughing, not.
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: That no one actually was. Because that shit was hard
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: to watch on the show, man. It sucks watching a
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: comedian bomb.
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: And things like this just kind of went over people's
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: heads since it's more complex and not just black and white,
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: as he stated multiple times. On his website, under Baby
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: Reindeer's announcement, he would say, Stalking on television tends to
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: be very sexed up.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: It has a mystique. It's somebody in a dark alleyway.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: It's somebody who's really sexy, who's very normal, but then
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: they go strange bit by bit. But stalking is a
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: mental illness. I really wanted to show the layers of
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: stalking with a human quality I hadn't seen on television before.
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: It's a stalker story turned on its head. It takes
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: a trope and turns it on its head. On the
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: day of release, April 11th, 2024, Netflix would post an
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: interview with Richard Gadd, who talked about the performance and
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: the show a bit, and about how he decided things
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: would go down.
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: 41,071 emails, 350 hours of voicemail, 744 tweets, 46 Facebook messages,
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: 4 fake Facebook accounts, 106 pages of letters. and one
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: cup of tea.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: And that is a shitload of messages he received, like
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: actual stalking. And his intention for the plot was not
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: only telling a story, it's meant to be an autobiography
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: that he wanted to share with an audience.
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: Ultimately, yeah, it is just an autobiographical story that I
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: felt the need to tell.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: And he wanted to have some comedic relief since it
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: is so dark and serious that he felt it needed
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: to have some laughter, which I appreciated during the show.
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: I really wanted the humor to to provide sort of
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: release during the series you know with a show like
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: this that goes to the territory it goes to I
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: just knew that without laughter along the way it could
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: have been a very very dark experience indeed.
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: Not only is it reliving a traumatic portion of his
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: life but he was also having to act it out
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: on camera in front of people which is which is
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: just crazy to His intention was hopefully that some of
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: these scenes wouldn't be a dent in people's life, but
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: bring them some peace to not let it define who
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: they are. And he would go on to explain about
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: being used by someone in the industry, and struggling with
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: not feeling belonged, and to have somebody that was cheering
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: him on constantly, and that person being his future stalker
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: as well. And this all kind of stemmed from his
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: stand-ups not feeling up to par for him, being very,
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: very mediocre and bombing constantly. Things just kind of kept
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: spiraling after that. And he wanted to portray the stalking character, Martha,
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: as somebody who wasn't just an evil character, but somebody
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: who was just mentally unwell and wasn't necessarily a bad person.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: which I did get from Martha's character. The actress who
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: played her was absolutely amazing. She was extremely convincing as well.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: Jessica Gunning absolutely killed that character. And I think Richard
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: played his own character very well too. And he wouldn't
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: expect the amount of traction that the show got as well.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: It like, I think it got to number one watch
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: show on Netflix within like a week of being up maybe.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: And I think it's just because a lot of people
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: could relate to the vulnerability that he had in the
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: story and the fact that it was based off a
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: true story. It kind of makes that line blurred. and
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: like being able to relate to it yourself. And I
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: think it gave people a real sense of comfort because
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: I know it did for me. And Richard's only complaint
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: about the success of the show is that he's kind
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: of lost his anonymity. The fact he would say that
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: on the flight over here to LA, the captain came
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: back because he heard I was on the plane. He
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: spoke to me and then the other pilot came back too.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: So that was quite surreal. I don't think of myself
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: as famous. I don't believe it inside. So when people
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: come up, I still find it quite strange. I couldn't
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: relate to that more. Dude, anytime somebody comes up to me,
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: which is Almost every time I go out, which I'm
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: very lucky for, but it's still very surreal.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: Like I don't feel famous at all, like remotely. I'm
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: just like talking to a camera in my room right now,
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: like a psycho. But he's very, very grateful for it
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: as well.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: And he's grateful that he has been able to help
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: people find comfort in their traumas as well. But however,
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: this comfort to get out his story had a side
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: effect many expected. The alleged stalker coming out of the woodwork. However,
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: no one planned for her to go on a platform
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: like Pierce- Morgan. In a crazy turn of events, the
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: real life Martha went on Piers Morgan Uncensored, a popular
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: British talk show, and denied that everything in the.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: Netflix show was a lie.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: Shocking. She told Morgan that when fans found her real
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: life identity, because that's just what TikTok is nowadays, is
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: just people snooping on everybody and being able to solve crimes,
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: they began to send death threats and harass her online,
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: which is terrible.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: I never condone that.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: That's- horrendous. And she claims that she refused to watch
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: the show because of it was misogynistic and that it
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: was obscene what they were saying about her. And Morgan
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: confronts her saying that Richard Gad has 350 voice messages, 41,000 emails,
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: 744 tweets, 48 Facebook messages, and 106 letters.
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: That's simply not true.
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: And she would deny these claims and say she only
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: sent a handful of messages.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: How many do you think you sent him?
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: A handful. And as the interview comes to a close,
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: she is asked, if Richard Gad is watching this, what
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: would you say to him?
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: She'd say, leave me alone and get the proper job.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: Because she's Scottish.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: But even though she denies that she ever sent any
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: of those messages, if you look at her old Twitter,
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: which she is no longer active on, you will see
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: that it has around 54,000 posts.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: In only one and a half years, dude. That's so many...
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: I don't even know how many that is a day.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do the math, but it's a lot.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: And this is further evidence when she is active on
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: social media, she is constantly posting and interacting with users.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: This also backs up the claim by Richard Gad. She
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: sent him 41,000 emails. If she is able to post 54,000
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: times in such a short timeframe on one platform, it's
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: very safe to assume she could repeat this behavior elsewhere online.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: And on her active Facebook on May 3rd, 2024, she
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: posted 116 times continuing her habits of spam posting on
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: social media. This bitch has got nothing but time, man.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: That's crazy. You're lucky if I tweet like once a month.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: She also claims that she has never called Gad and
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: that he was also recording her at the bar. And
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: on her active Facebook account, she's posting about Gad and
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: her interview with Morgan. Just spewing all sorts of shit.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: You can pause to read them, but it's just, it's nonsense.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: And if you were to look at her post on
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: her account since the release of Baby Reindeer, she literally
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: only posts about.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: Richard Gad and the whole situation. Sounding familiar?
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: And since her accounts have gone public, people are starting
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: to notice that Fiona, her real name, posts are very
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: racist as well. This interview would just expose the true
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: nature of Fiona and would back up Gad's claims on
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: her being an insane stalker, basically. She outright denied all
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: claims of Gad having evidence, and when Morgan asks her
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: if she wants him to reveal evidence, he supposedly has
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: against her, her demeanor changes and she.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: Just says no.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: So she's just like deny, deny, deny the entire interview.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: It's kind of hilarious to watch. I highly recommend you
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: watch the whole thing. And that statement alone is just
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: admission of guilt. If she really was innocent of all
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: these claims, then she would have no problem asking Gad
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: to release all of the evidence.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: He has against her. Plain and simple.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: And in a separate interview with the Daily Record, a
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: UK magazine, Fiona says that she is innocent and denies
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: any claims that she was convicted or even went to
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: jail for any charges. Additionally, she says that she is
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: considering suing Netflix and Richard Gadd for defamation. Just like
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: in the show, Fiona still refuses to deal with her
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: past trauma and her past actions creating more problems for herself.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: And after the interview with Piers Morgan, naturally, she has
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: become somewhat of a micro-celebrity now. If you look at
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: her Facebook, where she actively posts a lot, you'll find
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: numerous accounts claiming to be the real Fiona Harvey. The
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: largest of these Facebook accounts having over 36,000 followers on it.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: And when Fiona claimed that she had never watched the show,
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: she contradicts herself because on a post she made on
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: Facebook on May 2nd, she would post two pictures of
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: herself watching the miniseries with the description saying, which... There
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: are a lot of different Facebook accounts with her name,
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: so it could not be her, but at this point,
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: I'm going to believe it's probably her. And on the
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: same Facebook account, the users pulled photos from older accounts
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: on Facebook and Twitter, and they just changed the descriptions
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: to fit the current narrative surrounding Fiona. And she would
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: post pictures of herself with the weirdest captions saying, a
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: picture of beautiful me, a picture of beautiful me, you
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: Richard God. It's just me feeling good about the labor
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: party's demise.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: This is just, Keep crazy dude.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: But in conclusion, when Richard Gad had created his mini
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: series for Netflix, he wanted to share his story of
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: being stalked, not feeling like he belonged and surviving deep,
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: trauma as an adult. And his story did ultimately achieve
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: what he wanted it to achieve. And the series did
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: gain success. However, it also caused him to share the
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: limelight with an actual stalker, Fiona Harvey. But despite her
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: being on live television and being exposed basically by herself,
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: I think God's vulnerability has been realized and appreciated far
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: beyond what he could have ever imagined. He took the
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: risk to show people his story and people received it
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: extremely well, finding comfort and liking his willingness to open
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: himself up. And as for Fiona, she can no longer
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: hide or be anonymous online, which I think is kind
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: of hilarious. She will forever be associated with this viral
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: mini-series and the events that took place within. Although God
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: never intended for this to expose her in any way,
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: she inadvertently did this to herself. And now God and
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: any other victims of Fiona's can sleep better at night,
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: knowing that she will never be able to do this
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: again without facing serious consequences. Anyway, that is it for
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: today's review, I guess?
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: An update?
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: If you guys want me to talk about any other
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: shows or movies or anything like that, I really enjoyed
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: doing this video. So let me know in the comments
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: down below. But until then, like the video if you
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: like the video, subscribe if you want to subscribe, and
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: I will see you beautiful face in the next video.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: Okay, bye.