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Breaking Down Ohio State's Dramatic Win Over Notre Dame · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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  Welcome to Buckeyes tomorrow morning for Sunday, September twenty fourth, I'm your host,
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  tom Or. The Maryland game is in thirteen days, the game against
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  Michigan in sixty two days. I'm going to guess if you're listening to this
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  podcast, you probably have a pretty good sense for what happened last night in
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  South Bend, Indiana. But just in case you missed it, Ohio State
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  scored with one second left in the game, one run yard run by Chip
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  Trainum to beat Notre Dame seventeen to fourteen. It was one of the more
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  exciting games in recent memory for o Hio State football and that led to an
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  extended postgame show. And when I say extended, I mean like two and
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  a half hours or so. So what we're gonna do here is rather than
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  doing you know, fifteen minutes of that, you're just going to get the
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  whole thing to consider this a special bonus episode of the live postgame Instant Reaction
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  show from the Buckeye Weekly podcast. You're going to get it all here.
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  We'll be back with normal service tomorrow. But there's a lot to talk about
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  after that game. So here here is your much much extended episode of Buckeyes
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  Tomorrow Morning. Welcome everybody to the Buck Eye Weekly Podcast. I am Tony
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  Gurnaman. Here's always with Tom or Tom. We know how it's going.
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  I do remember Exavier Johnson and I were working our way down to the field,
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  but we couldn't get on the field to their five minutes left. There's
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  like five fifty six, so we had to like crouch down, so we
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  were blocking people's views in the stands in the stairway. So yes, you
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  know it's a little hard on the knees. But that when they failed there
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  my memory reckless correctly, which I can't promise it. It sure felt like
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  that was the end because the Notre Dame running game had been just controlling the
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  game in the from essentially the second half, and they didn't miss, like
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  capitalize as much as they could. But I just felt like they didn't need
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  to give the ball back they started. Yeah, that was had just gone
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  really came endless from drive and it was eleven plays ninety six yards, six
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  twenty eight off the Notre Dame's two previous drives total twenty four plays, one
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  hundred and seventy one yards and just over fourteen minutes of time off the clock.
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  It is a quarter, and they just went down the field methodically both
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  times, and then they got a bright idea, Tony. There were some
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  bright ideas on both sides. I mean the Xavier Johnson play that set up
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  a let's run an end around to a Mecca Abuca on fourth and one,
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  and at that moment that was like, oh, they just blew it right
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  there with a weapons grade stupid play call and they and Notre Dame gets the
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  ball back and all Notre Dame has to do is run the game, run
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  the clock out, just do the same thing you've done on the previous two
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  drives. It's like no, no, no, no, no, you
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  can fix it. My cousin has this, has set of tools like we're
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  watch mom, watch this. And then then they lose well, and we
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  talked to Jim Knowles came out after the game and he was also surprised that
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  they decided to throw the ball. And maybe we have some of that later
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  on. But we got a super chat right now. Yes, one from
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  Mike's has put this towards the new modem Kevin, which means probably great things
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  about the Internet connection out here. We're outside the stadium. Why because there
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  are rules. Why are the rules? Well, people like rules. Tony
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  Mark Feder says, I love this side of Ryan Day that was never seen
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  him like that. That was a spicy press conference. Well it was,
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  and it was going to be a very different press conference if they don't pick
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  up, if they don't score there because you mentioned that a Mecca Buoka fourth
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  down and around, which was the very definition of a soft You know that
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  that's what a soft team would do. Yeah, we can't pick it up
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  straight ahead, so let's try to get cute with it. And they failed.
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  Yeah, and that felt like, well, there's the story of the
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  game, there's the narrative. You have just proven everybody right, and then
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  one drive later, well everything changed. This is a This is a stadium
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  where rather famously, sometimes you can beat Notre Dame by running just running a
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  quarterback sneak and getting help from back like that is the thing that's happened the
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  past. You can learn from history and positive ways. I do not know
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  if there is someone on the team who is allergic two quarterback sneaks, but
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  it seems like there's plenty of opportunities to run them, and they choose to
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  do a bunch of other stuff that ends up with oh, third and one
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  turned into fourth and one. How about that again? How about that we
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  are falling behind on super chats. Mike Smith as a play calling, especially
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  on fourth and inches with a sixth three quarterback, was not great. Yep,
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  yeah, absolutely agree. The passion after the game was great to see.
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  Good for him to call it out. I mean that is as.
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  The only corollary I can draw is the two thousand and seveneen Michigan game where
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  JT. Barrett got whacked on the knee by a cameraman and Urban Meyer Hitch
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  just beaten Michigan for the what sixth straight time at that point, and he
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  comes into the press conference and he's got like steam cunning out of his ears
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  and it's like, did you what did you? Did they lose? And
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  I didn't realize what happened? And this was this, I mean like and
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  this is this is not He wasn't angry and upset at the result or anything,
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  but it was just like that was That was not the postgame response I
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  expected. It was a Neapolitan press conference. You had some happiness, you
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  had some chocolate, you had some strawberries, some egg and this is an
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  angry guy and a happy guy all in one. And I that the urban
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  Meyer is a good one. But he was. It was funny because he's
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  like, you know, called out lou Hall. It's essentially it was like
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  enough, I could say more, but I will have another thing. Yeah,
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  it was that was that was spicy. Yeah, And you know,
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  I think that's probably sometimes you know, when you're upset about something else,
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  you end up like there's something that you just sort of, you know,
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  blow up over. He's taken a lot of criticism and a lot of Christmas
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  criticism for losing games in exactly the kind of way that it looked like they
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  were going to lose the game tonight, So that was probably a little bit
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  cathartic for him to do. I don't know if he necessarily and you know,
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  he said he was mad about this for days. I don't know that
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  he necessarily planned on coming out with that way. You know, you get
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  you get the blood. The blood gets a little hot at the end of
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  a game like that. But I mean, the scoreboard says what the scoreboard
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  says. It was irresponsible, lue Hall. It's looking for some form of
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  notoriety or just wanting to be relevant again, and you got it. Yeah,
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  Mike Freno says, why did they wait until they were trailing to get
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  creative? This was you know they did they did. It was not a
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  creative offensive game plan, I would agree. There were just sometimes they'll draw
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  stuff up where that guy is wide open. There wasn't much of that in
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  this one. They did take some shots. They were unsuccessful, of course,
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  but you know, it was not the most creative game plan. But
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  he talked about letting it rip. I think they did that in some sense,
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  but it wasn't. It wasn't all over the place because I don't know
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  that for one. Kylmic Chord and we can talk about him, like some
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  of the decisions he was making were not great decision, especially in the first
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  half. I'm looking forward to watching that final drive again to see exactly what
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  that was. Because even even watching Kylmichord in the press and the postgame press
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  count, it's Ryan days at the podium, Kyl of of Chords just sitting
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  off like, you know, I wish I had my phone so I could
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  play a Jewel Quest or something like. He's like, oh, did we
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  was there a game? I don't know, he was missing high often enough
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  in the first half that I think there might have been a little extra juice
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  that you know, he comes out and he looks calm, but you're you're
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  allowed to have adrenaline. That is the thing you have in your body,
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  and that is the kind of moment where it comes, you know, it
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  shows up. I think he was a little jazzed up, and then it
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  seemed like he overthrew people in the first half, and then he kind of
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  started under throwing people because it was like he was trying to Again I'm just
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  sort of speculating here, but it just felt like he was kind of trying
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  to correct for the fact it was overthrowing, and then he underthrews some people.
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  But you know, as he's going out on the field with whatever a
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  minute and whatever it was left it was, I said out loud to the
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  person next to me, we're going to find out a lot about this young
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  man in the next minute or so of game play. And we did.
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  I thought we found out a lot in those first two throws, which was
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  this moment is way too big. I said those exact words too. And
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  after those first two throws and those weren't long throws, but they were they
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  were off and one was low, one was high, and it was like,
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  well, maybe the next one will be in the middle. I don't
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  remember, and a wider take quarterback getting the yips before. But that's that's
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  what it looked like. But then you come out, it's first down,
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  it's second down, it's third down, and oh boy, you can feel
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  the whole thing snowballing and it's like, oh boy, the stadium is loud,
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  everything is everything is going wrong. And then in your fifth career start
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  at first true hostile road atmosphere, it's like, oh and then and then
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  you pulled it together. It was fine, and then and then he kind
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  of lost it again, and then it was fine. It just was.
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  It wasn't easy, but it worked. Three steps forward, two steps back.
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  Jordan Kapler says, how does one pour out in emoji? Anyways?
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  Here? Shamrock, shamrock, shamrock. This is this has been a hum
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  dinger of a knight for Notre Dame fans. This was this was the moment
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  that you thought you had arrived, You finally have beaten this caliber of a
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  team. After falling flat on your face over and over and over again over
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  again, they had the veteran defense. They finally have a quarterback and Sam
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  Hartman is not magic. But if if you were watching any of college game
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  day, every sign at the college game day was Sam Hartman being compared do
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  one member or another of the Holy Trinity, and it's like, oh,
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  you guys really haven't had a quarterback for a long time here. And he
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  was he was good, he wasn't incredible. I think a lot of people
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  thought, well, the veteran is going to outplay the young guy, and
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  the young guy did just fine. We need to get some super chast before
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  we could start talking about all of this. All right, Mike says,
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  fourth and one end around to the short side of the field. We should
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  use the bush push more appreciate you guys see yeah, you know, or
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  or maybe just send a bush push over to the short side and it's yeah,
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  uh, Mike Smith says. Defensively getting killed in some coverage with the
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  curl routes that were that were at the line to gain surprise, they didn't
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  pressure Hartmann more. That's what I that's one thing I want to talk about
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  because they were so open and it's like, oh, this defense is getting
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  killed fourteen points. I don't understand it. They were Sam Hartman had time,
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  he was finding that the side ends were killing him. Aldrick Estimate had
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  some good runs that the change of pacebacks that we talked about all week,
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  I didn't know that that many. Oh yeah, no, it's they they
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  roll the four guys out there. It's like one of those boy bands where
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  it's just like, oh yeah, this guy left the band, but now
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  it's it's menudo. It's oknudo as a running backroom pop. Yes. Uh
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  and so fourteenth points, I don't know what the totally yardage? What did
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  they give up three hundred They gave up three hundred and fifty one. But
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  of course, Tony, we don't use totally yardage on this show because yards
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  for play, yards for play, five point six for Ohio State, five
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  point five for Notre Dame. Well you look at the Ohio State offense and
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  you think, boy, Notre Dame really held them in check. And then
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  you look at the Notre Dame offense and they had one tenth of a yard
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  less per play. So this this feels like I was not in there for
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  the Gym Knowles press conference. But boy, speaking of people who have taken
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  a little criticism over the years. Feel feels like Jim Knowles may have you
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  know, this is this year's Notre Dame team. I know everyone's getting cool.
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  They gave up ten points Notre Dame last year, so this is worse.
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  Like this year's Notre Dame team is light years better than last year's Notre
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  Dame team on both sides of the ball. Yeah. I did ask Knowles
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  because this game was getting away from them, like how did you stop the
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  momentum? And he's like, well, the same way, remember the same
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  way they stopped Derrick Henry and the twenty fifteen Sugar Bowl. Wait for the
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  other coaches knew something stupid? No, Wow, he didn't say that.
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  He said toughest. Yeah, well, agree to disagree on that one.
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  But I think they were tough. They were tough, yes, But also
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  sometimes Lane Hippin forgets he has Derrick Henry. That's a thing that happens in
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  football sometimes. Mike Smith says, I'm a hurt as a surprise that as
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  much as Notre Dame people throw that degree and it talue around that they can't
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  count past the number of fingers on their hands that you know, I did
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  I did not know. I did not realize that until at the time.
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  Oh boy, that's uh. You you want to talk about a mistake that's
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  going to haunt you. This is like the polar opposite at the time David
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  Boston returned punt with seven blockers, and it's like this fun, whimsical thing
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  that was the end of a seventy two and nothing game. This is the
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  one crushing mistake that cost you. This game cost you. Think about the
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  narrative around this Notre Dame program. First of all, there'd be a lot
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  more people around right now if Notre Dame would won this game. This would
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  be you'd have music, you would have people's stream. We wouldn't be able
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  to do a live show on here. Too many people. It is deader
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  than disco out here? How much? And you can let us know the
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  chat. How much did they talk about that on the broadcast because we didn't
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  even realize it until like the post game when somebody mentioned it. But yeah,
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  I wonder does that come? Does that we could a name for that?
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  You know, a play that lives in lore or lives in infamy,
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  you know something with a ten Oh, the Golden Role as Kevin's suggestion.
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  That's pretty good. Yeah, that was. That was That's one of those
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  how can you how how how can that happen? Well? How? Yeah?
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  I mean like Ohio State ran out twelve guys on a state punch against
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  Georgia last year in the peach Bole they ended up getting you know, they
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  call the time out. It didn't matter. But you know, it's the
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  same thing, like, how does that mistake get made? There? There
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  were so many people on the sideline, on the staff. How does that
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  happen in that moment? Especially when well, because how does it happen?
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  Because are you bringing out your you know, your strong package or are you
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  looking for o Higo States bread it out something like that? That that crossed
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  and there and that's something that oh man, that whole gosh it was the
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  guy was It wasn't like, oh well there was a corner on the far
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  side of the field. It wasn't there. It didn't impact it like it
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  was the guy at the point of attack on a play where Chip train and
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  made it by like ten inches. I mean, do you think having an
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  extra three hundred pound body there might have made a ten inch difference? I
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  suspect the answer is maybe that was so close. I bet Jim Harbad thinks
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  he didn't make it. There were people who were around me who were saying
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  they weren't sure. It was like he got train, got kind of held
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  up, his knees didn't touch. He looked you sort of thought his knees
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  are gonna touch in three two, and then they didn't actually touch, and
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  then the bawling over the line. So it was it was clearly a touchdown.
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  And Ohio State, the whale house state was reacting, Oh have state
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  knew it was a touchdown. You could tell that the coaches up in the
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  boots, we're like, oh, yeah, that's good. And Notre Dame
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  has a beautiful video board and there were times when they didn't show the replay,
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  and I know what that means. Let's fort Wayne Buckey, let's get
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  let's do another one and so we don't stack them up too much. Fort
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  Wayne Bucket all hailed Calm McCord and Emecca and Bucca. This was we talked
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  a little bit about Colmiccord already. This was like the a Mecca Buca game
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  at points, Well, we're gonna do every if Notre Dame is gonna do
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  everything. They can to contain Marvin Harrison. This is you go to the
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  next guy and boll He came up clutch. He was he was not happy
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  with the touchdown that he did not catch. They got overturned. I also
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  wasn't because I had a real good picture of it. The whole first half
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  was me getting great pictures of stuff and then the play getting overturned on a
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  penalty or a replay or something. Seven catches ninety six yards, eleven targets
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  long, just along of twenty three. But you know those were it felt.
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  How often did it feel like it was third and ten, third and
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  seven and there's a mecha abuca for twelve yards. Yeah, I'm just I'm
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  imagining if that touchdown gets overturned. Yeah, and then the big ten tells
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  Ryan on Mumbo then hey, yeah, sorry, you know that. I
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  wonder if you would take any solace in that time. Yeah, I suspect
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  he would not. Here's here's a look at here's a look at the kybal
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  Cours targets and uh, you know, kid stover man, it was the
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  kids dover game for a while. It was thea booga game for a while.
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  LAS tried to make it the Cad Stover game when it didn't need to
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  be. He was real. But I think that's also and the picture of
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  Mervin Harrison there, that's the one that got overturned and replay, it's like,
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  this is the perfect picture and then did the ball move it? I
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  think I saw one replay on the board where I thought unlike the scoreboard not
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  I don't I didn't have access the TV feed. I saw one on the
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  scoreboard where it looked like maybe the ball was a little loose, when he
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  like it was loose, and then he hit the hit his back out of
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  bounds. So it wasn't that he didn't complete the catch, it was they
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  didn't complete the catch inbounds. I think that's what it got overturned on.
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  Yeah, there's the there's the picture that that's that exactly. Yeah incomplete.
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  Yeah, it was mean spiritually it should have been a completed pass. Yeah,
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  exactly, that's try. We can't even use it on the post game
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  show. Uh. Super Jeffer, Mike Marino, Mike Farino and Buca had
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  an amazing game. But I can't help but wonder what our game would have
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  looked like. And he caught that touchdown pass and the half. Also,
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  can dye stop injuring our best wide receiver. I had that thought. It
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  was like, boy, I've seen this game before. Uh, it's low
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  scoring, Ohio States best wide receiver who they're counting on for the whole year,
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  goes out with what looks like a real, real serious injury. Uh.
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  And then Xavier Johnson does something in the second half that's a really big
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  play. It's like, I've seen this one. I think they learned from
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  nineteen ninety five, nineteen ninety six when they let Terry Glenn and to meet
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  your Stanley go off on him, not letting this happen again. Yeah,
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  yeah, And that was I didn't see the I didn't have a great view
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  of it. I had a ref between me and I have a picture of
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  the guy falling on his ankle, and I didn't look good. It didn't.
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  It looked real, real bad. But then he he obviously came back
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  in the game and he left with a big bag of ice taped around his
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  right ankle. So you know, but hey, this is what a good
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  time for a week off. Super chat from Jimmy Kramer. Thank you,
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  Jimmy, appreciate your appreciate your support. You for watching. Mike Smith says,
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  they only had ten on both of the lot both of the last two
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  plays that they didn't even notice and get a guy in there after the first
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  play at the one. Why it worked the first time? Why don't change
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  it? You know, don't Hey, don't you know how the coaches are
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  on us. You have coaches up in the box who are responsible for nothing
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  but like refilling the beverages of the coach is in the front. Right.
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  They could have called it today. I think had one left. We gotta
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  we gotta talk about Ohio States timeout usage. I have some thoughts. Hey,
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  it sure did? It was? That was? That was you know,
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  say that was the Ohio State coaching staff and the Notre Dame coaching playoff
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  playing knife spooney the last like just oh I'm gonna I'm gonna out questionable decision
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  you Mike says Ransoman styles in that fourth down stop in the first quarter.
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  Yeah, that was. That was a big hit. That was the one
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  that was Sam Hartman? Right? Was that Sam Hartman keeper? Or am
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  I thinking of a different one? It kind of went it went off the
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  left what Youngstown State kind of did? Yeah? You know, yeah that
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  worked the backfield. Yeah, yeah, yeah time. Did you see my
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  tweet? It was uh Lathan Ransom and Sunny Styles eighty six that fourth down
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  attempt. I don't get it. Super chat from Spicy Leonardo two or Spicy
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  Spicy Leonardo the second. I'm gonna say please, my father is mister Liam
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  called spicy LJ has LJ has failed to develop JT and Sawyer. JT and
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  Jack have thirteen point five sacks combined in three years. Pass rush as Maryland
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  level minus one play. Who can replace LJ? Now? I think this
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  is a game where you look at this game. The stats aren't necessarily there,
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  but right now you're seeing the results are there. If if they get
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  gashed again by Michigan, you have that conversation right now. The defense this
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  year has been significantly improved, far far improved. And I think, you
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  know this is I know everyone wants to fire everyone all the time, but
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  when you're getting this kind of results, I don't, you know, I
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  think keep the you know, don't if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
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  Well, I will say at this point, now they're giving up eleven
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  points per game. But I you know, when you sign all of these
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  five star guys you expect we count sacks, We look at those sacks,
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  and you can't. We're saying a thousand times, you can't expect to get
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  Chase Young production out of guys that aren't Chase Young. These are aren't bosas.
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  But I think it's fair to want Sam Hubbard Tekwon Lewis type of impact,
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  and they statistically have not gotten even you know Sam Hubbard, would you
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  know TfL's and Taekwon Lewis is defensive Linemen of the Year. If if one
• 21:30
  of these guys gets it, they're gonna have to do more than they're doing
• 21:33
  now. But how but still there it's eleven points per game that they're giving
• 21:37
  up. And it starts up front. I will say Notre Dame ran for
• 21:41
  about one hundred and seventy six yards, and I would have thought that was
• 21:45
  would have been enough to win it, because it maybe, but but they
• 21:52
  estimate ran fourteen carry seventy yards. That's five yards per carry. Jeremiah Love
• 21:57
  seven point one, Price seven point at three, Jabron Payne three yards per
• 22:03
  carry. But you know four and a half yards per carry. If if
• 22:07
  I told you before the game, Ohio State is going to outrush Notre Dame
• 22:11
  on a yards per carry basis, it's only four point seven to four point
• 22:12
  five, but Notre Dame. You know, to to have Notre Dame with
• 22:18
  not a great offensive line, put a good offensive line and offensive a good
• 22:22
  offensive line with some great parts, that that feels like a win to me.
• 22:29
  I still think there are some questions in terms of the marriage of the
• 22:33
  front and the back end of the defense. I think those are legitimate questions
• 22:37
  to ask. Just you know, until you have a game where j J.
• 22:42
  T. Timloo had made two in pretty big plays in it. I
• 22:47
  mean interceptions he had, he had a sack, he had a sack,
• 22:52
  he did drop an interception, yes, technically, but those were two of
• 22:56
  the biggest players of the game. So you're you know, yeah, they
• 22:59
  have thirteen and a half sacks over the last three years. Okay, but
• 23:03
  that's you know that he how many sacks did he have in the pen SA
• 23:07
  game last year? Did he have one? Maybe? I mean he's he
• 23:11
  has he has made impactful plays and so many. Yeah, they both have,
• 23:15
  Yeah, they Jacky Jack Chey has been an impact player in the last
• 23:18
  couple of weeks, even if super chat from Jimmy Kramer. Uh, that's
• 23:25
  the uh uh indy head ten me out on the field the last two plays,
• 23:29
  with the first one immediately after a Notre Dame time out. The Freeman
• 23:32
  quote is not good. I did not hear that. I did not hear
• 23:34
  the Marcus Freeman quote. No, Okay, Gavin Whittaker heard Day might step
• 23:38
  down at the end of the season. What have you heard, great nail
• 23:41
  wider today, though, why would I'm not sure why Ryan Day would step
• 23:45
  down at the end of the season. He's uh, as came out this
• 23:48
  week doing just fine financially and now just had a big win. You know.
• 23:53
  Yeah, I don't think there's any I've heard Nick Saban's name in that
• 24:00
  conversation a lot more. Yeah, well, you know, the the idea
• 24:04
  that you know, the lead Corso spot on game day might be open.
• 24:08
  Uh, I'm not I'm not saying it's gonna happen. But I'm not not
• 24:14
  saying it's gonna happen. Joey V. McCord is so bipolar. One minute
• 24:18
  he's terrible and the next minute he's unbelievable. I can't wait to see what
• 24:22
  he'll mold into after this one. Hey, it's like having J. G.
• 24:25
  Barrett all over again. He's he's young. I think that's what he
• 24:29
  is. He's young, inexperienced, inexperienced. He's okay, he's inexperienced.
• 24:36
  This is to come in come into this venue. It was loud, that
• 24:41
  was maraucous. And what was your estimate on the crowd because twenty percent of
• 24:48
  state maybe, Yeah, I think we've learned a valuable lesson about vid seeds
• 24:52
  as a source. But you know, it was that was a time environment
• 25:00
  that was and that was a like we said earlier, you had the oh
• 25:03
  the moments too big for them, and you would understand at the moment was
• 25:07
  too big for me. Your fifth start, you're on the road, it's
• 25:10
  national TV, it's primetime, historic venue, veteran defense. I mean,
• 25:15
  everything is stacked against you, and you have two just absolute clunkers on the
• 25:21
  first two throws of that drive. It was like, oh, okay,
• 25:22
  well that's too bad. This was this was almost a really exciting game.
• 25:26
  And then they leave them down the field. So yeah, you're going to
• 25:29
  be inconsistent because you're inexperienced. But you got through this one and now you've
• 25:36
  got a week off and then you've got a couple, you know, tests,
• 25:38
  but not real tests before you get to your next real test. You
• 25:41
  know, I know this was a really good game. I never once looked
• 25:44
  at our bald predictions. I've never even gave it a thought. Wow,
• 25:48
  I won by that much. Super chats, uh, super chats from Jordan
• 25:52
  Kaitler. Well that's my bed. And basically he said that he was gonna
• 26:02
  bet his mortgage and then he would need to move in with me, and
• 26:04
  I said he would have to be my maid and he said, okay,
• 26:07
  so I guess, I guess how you gotta have a conversation with my wife
• 26:11
  about this, and you're gonna have to go outfit shopping. But he's my
• 26:15
  butler. Super chat for Mark Fetters. I'm pumped and that is one,
• 26:21
  two, three, four exclamations. Well that's that's Ryot day level. That
• 26:26
  is pretty pumped. Yes, that is pretty pumped. Mike Freeno says,
• 26:29
  question, even if Marvin's fully cleared to play in two weeks versus Maryland,
• 26:32
  you hold him out. He's him as an emergency option only not like he
• 26:34
  needs the GPS. Maryland is a good enough team that I don't think you're
• 26:37
  if this was if this is young sound Satan two weeks. Yeah, yeah,
• 26:41
  sure, Maryland is Maryland is probably the fourth best team in the Big
• 26:44
  Ten East. Yeah, it's it's not a hamstring, so hopefully it won't
• 26:48
  linger like Jackson Smith and jacobab But if he's good to go, and both
• 26:53
  Kevin and I were like one eye on the game, the other guy the
• 26:56
  other eye on the tents waiting for Marvin to come out. Did you know
• 27:00
  he did? He was hopping around. He's like jogging back and forth,
• 27:03
  tried to get his helmet back so he could come back into the game.
• 27:07
  If he can go, he's gonna He's gonna go. But yeah, I
• 27:11
  don't think you want to take Maryland lightly at this point. No, No,
• 27:15
  I mean he does ever remember the Maryland game last year or any Yeah,
• 27:19
  everything in Maryland in Maryland is different than Maryland and Columbus. But uh,
• 27:23
  super chat from Mike Smith. Do we know who won bold predictions?
• 27:26
  I know someone had a fourth down player for both teams, Tony what had
• 27:30
  two thumbs and had picked both teams to have a fourth down failure. This
• 27:34
  guy, no, it really cares. Take that chat off. Super chats
• 27:42
  about bold predictions anyway, Struck. I had Tribban Henderson scores two touchdowns off
• 27:47
  that happened. Uh again, this game was a complete blur. Uh.
• 27:52
  Tommy Akiberg and Steel Chambers combined for twenty tackles and more, he only had
• 27:56
  like two in the third quarter. Well, Jesse mrco down's two side the
• 28:00
  ten, including one and side the five that that may have happened. Actually
• 28:03
  it was close. There there was there was one. There was, yes,
• 28:07
  but there was I think there was one that got down on the eleventh,
• 28:08
  but I don't. It's uh yeah, anyway, we'll figure it out.
• 28:12
  Don't worry. I'll if if I want, I will make sure will
• 28:15
  let Tony now, yeah, thank thank you, and he are we caught
• 28:19
  up on the super jet, okay, Mike Smith says. Freeman said they
• 28:23
  knew, but didn't have enough time after the incomplete pass to get the eleventh
• 28:26
  guy out there. L O L take that for what you will. Okay,
• 28:30
  So then so presumably you don't you can't get the eleven the guy out
• 28:33
  there, because he's gonna be well yeah if if yeah, you you take
• 28:38
  an intentional off side, because at that point the difference is yeah, you're
• 28:44
  you're on the one yard line. So okay, you're gonna give up a
• 28:47
  foot, but all right, you can't convey that to the player because that's
• 28:51
  not really if you don't have enough time to call it time out, how
• 28:52
  are you going to convey that to the players to jump off side? They're
• 28:56
  they're not thinking there's only ted guys out here. Yeah, so that's it's
• 29:00
  just a that's something that can't be allowed to happen. That situation can't happen
• 29:04
  because if now you're stuck with it, and then maybe you'll be we'll get
• 29:08
  over it eventually. I'm sure. Maybe I was halfway through that game and
• 29:14
  thinking, man, the anti Big ten ref conspiracy theories are going to be
• 29:18
  flying fast and furious. Brian Lee Gary says, if No Dame runs the
• 29:23
  ball three times, they win, which you had one to a one time
• 29:27
  out, Yeah, yes they if they had run I think I think Notre
• 29:33
  Dame probably needed to pick up two first downs. But if they pick up
• 29:36
  two first downs on the ground, it's over. That's it. I think
• 29:38
  I we did in the third quarter. Late in the third like Notre Dame
• 29:41
  does not need to throw anymore. Just continue to run the ball and when
• 29:47
  you throw it again. They were effective, but until they weren't. Yeah,
• 29:52
  yeah, Dave K wants to know what did Chip chip due to goof
• 29:57
  Day in pregame. This is something that I noticed during pregame. Brian Day
• 30:02
  always will stand there and this is his arms folded, be watching very very
• 30:06
  seriously, watching the wide receivers run streaks and the quarterbacks trying to throw the
• 30:11
  ball through them. And he's watching very seriously and Chip Rainham has gotten to
• 30:15
  the point where now apparently you asked Day about this aud of the game.
• 30:18
  Every game he will try and come up Pine Day and just kind of like
• 30:23
  get up, you know, like jump scare him basically, And it was
• 30:27
  it was very funny. I saw. I hadn't noticed this before, but
• 30:30
  you know, I'm thinking, okay, he feels like Days a little tight,
• 30:34
  big game, Serry, You're just gonna And Day's reaction was like he
• 30:38
  laughed, he thought it was really funny, Like he thought it was.
• 30:42
  It was like very clearly, you know, like I think of who was
• 30:47
  at Percy Harvin who spanked Urban Meyer on the sideline and the end of that
• 30:49
  National championship game with a Pete Clemson. I think it might have been Percy
• 30:52
  Harvin and Urban turns around and does not have the look, does not have
• 30:56
  a whimsical look on his face. Did not take that in the spirit in
• 31:00
  which it was probably intended. Uh day very much like found it amusing.
• 31:06
  So it just it's just something that Chip train Um is doing now and uh
• 31:08
  what what a what a story that Chip trained Um has become. He he
• 31:14
  talked him the U. I think everybody watching the stream got to see him,
• 31:17
  and we did not get to see him because we jumped out of the
• 31:18
  room. Yeah, but uh, that guy. Uh, the team loves
• 31:23
  that dude, and he obviously when you'll do anything for the team and you'll
• 31:27
  move positions and stuff, obviously you feel the see he feels the same way
• 31:30
  that they do about him. Yeah, Brianley Garris has Penn State and Michigan
• 31:34
  licking your chops. I mean maybe, I mean, did you see what
• 31:40
  Michigan did today? Well, they scored thirty one straight against Rutgers. That's
• 31:47
  I mean, which which of their unimpressive performances has been the most impressive to
• 31:51
  you? Because I this is this is the fourth in a row of a
• 31:57
  what did we learned enough? Yeah? Yeah, why why did we do
• 32:00
  this well. Actually, here's the stadium so many times a year. Otherwise
• 32:06
  we lose. Uh, it's like we lose our copyright if you don't use
• 32:09
  use your Dame material. And it's Ryan Day says, and these matchup games,
• 32:13
  just win it. It doesn't that's all you have to do. And
• 32:15
  then you move on to the next one that those games Pence Day has.
• 32:19
  This game has no Michigan. They're all separate entities. Yeah, and it's
• 32:24
  entirely possible that this ends up being a better win than Michigan has at any
• 32:30
  point this year, because Michigan only has two chances to get a win.
• 32:31
  This good. Ki will also say that Friday, saying that this adds the
• 32:35
  narrative is not true. No, no, no, no, no,
• 32:37
  you have to be Yeah, you have to be Michigan. Yes, it's
• 32:42
  like a final boss. Yeah, yes, sorry, Ryan, But the
• 32:45
  princess is in another castle. Mike Smith says, right now, I'm just
• 32:49
  imagining Notre Dame fans are a living version of the Rose meme from Titanic where
• 32:53
  she says it's been eighty four years. Friar's penalty was huge. They come
• 32:59
  on, okay, go ahead, you Josh Fryer. I remember Josh Fryer
• 33:04
  committing a penalty. I cannot, for the life of me remember what he
• 33:07
  did. Uh, he finished the block and the guy was on the ground
• 33:09
  that he continued to finish the block. Was that what they call I watched
• 33:13
  the replay and I'm like, was it a cut something chop block? As
• 33:17
  I tweeted, If that is a penalty, then Orlando Pace would have been
• 33:21
  penalized for about one hundred and thirty five yards per game. That was against
• 33:27
  Northwestern on an early series. They call it very sporadically. That was now
• 33:31
  he didn't have to knump on him. Yeah, but you see that all
• 33:36
  the time. Was he blocking the quarterback? That's what that was. That
• 33:40
  was there was because there was another one that the early one on Davis Nigma
• 33:44
  nos and I think it was, and they picked they picked up the flag.
• 33:47
  It was like it was like that was you know, that was a
• 33:50
  dumb thing to do. But also that was a pretty soft call and they
• 33:52
  picked that one off. That's another one that's like, this is a real
• 33:57
  big game. Do you really want to be making that kind of an impact
• 34:00
  in the game. And that was that that could have cost Ohio State the
• 34:05
  game, Greg says, did jump Baptiste solidify the LJ retirement? I mean
• 34:09
  he has I heard his name quite a bit. Yeah. He He's really
• 34:15
  good for Notre Damn this year. Absolutely, And you know, I mean
• 34:19
  was is he gonna win? And is he gonna be an All American this
• 34:22
  year? No? No, I mean it's he was. He was always
• 34:25
  a rotation guy for Ohio State. But would you pick Javonte jam Baptiste over
• 34:30
  J T. Twomlower or Jack Sawyer. I don't think Curry Jackson. I'bout
• 34:36
  Kaden Curry as a goal line fullback. I looked at that and I was
• 34:40
  like, is this something where they have someone wearing a different jersey? What
• 34:44
  is well? Because I'm love, I'm up sure is that is that?
• 34:47
  Is that eighty two? It's like that's the same hard as eighty one?
• 34:50
  I don't. Yeah. Then I looked at trying to David Adolf the Walk
• 34:52
  on Life receiver is eighty two. Yeah, looking at the scorecard back because
• 34:57
  the print is so tidy. But I did not like that, and like
• 35:00
  bringing the entire defense to the line of scrimmage. I get it. Bryan
• 35:06
  Day is trying to just show everybody. We are tough, we are going
• 35:08
  to smash in there, and we are going to do this if they're not
• 35:12
  very good at that aspect of it. Then the Bison package and all of
• 35:14
  that. This was I don't know what they call the next level up from
• 35:16
  the Bison, the double Bison, I don't know. But the Mastodon,
• 35:22
  thank you Kevin. It did not work. It was not as effective.
• 35:27
  And then what they do at the end, they just they just run it
• 35:30
  up the middle and win it with Chip trainer, I guess against Ted guys
• 35:34
  who's counting, it's certainly not Notre Dame. Mike Farino says, I think
• 35:37
  the issue was the force that he used to Fryar. Had he just laid
• 35:40
  on him, he would have been fine. I mean yeah again, yeah,
• 35:45
  is that one where the pie still going on? It wasn't a late
• 35:47
  hit where you are in the game. Is that ap penalty you want to
• 35:54
  call on either team? This is not you know, oh we can't go
• 35:58
  upenally? Is that a penalty you want to call on either team in a
• 36:02
  moment when it's that impactful in this closing game where you want to have a
• 36:07
  chance that this call which is like is going to be that. One of
• 36:10
  the deciding factors it is if your family is watching the game and they haven't
• 36:15
  seen you throw a flag yet. Yeah, well, I mean, or
• 36:19
  if your family has traveled to the game. My family has never seen me
• 36:22
  ref before they're here. I want to give them something to remember me by.
• 36:28
  I believe I've been the program. Also, do you think REF families
• 36:32
  paint their faces with alternate black and white stripes vertically? I don't know why
• 36:37
  you wouldn't. Now, I kind of want to do that for a game,
• 36:40
  just tip. The problem is the refs are always getting in my way
• 36:44
  to get down on the sideline. I'm just like I saw. I do
• 36:45
  not need another picture of your body. I would like to get a picture
• 36:47
  of the football happening on the other somebody else's play. Yes, Mike Smith
• 36:52
  says the ref for bad tonight for Marves catch and the Friar call. Watching
• 36:54
  not the name helped the receivers on the field. It just wasn't very good.
• 36:57
  There were some miscalls, there were and there were some miscalls on both
• 37:00
  sides, and and there was a real bad pass interference when Davis nick Nosen
• 37:04
  did not did not get cold. And then there was the next play.
• 37:07
  Uh, Mike Hole gets basically like a like a U you got chicken wing
• 37:13
  so, then so, then and so and then and then the next play
• 37:20
  they threw at Davis Mignos and it was like flag was coming out before like
• 37:23
  the snap. Basically, I mean, I don't think officials decided the game.
• 37:30
  So you know, if you if you are running out ten players on
• 37:37
  back to back plays in the crucial game deciding moment of the game, you
• 37:42
  don't get to blame anyone else, like blame the fact that you're out of
• 37:45
  fingers. No, and Ryan Day wouldn't been able to blame the refs.
• 37:49
  And if they don't pick up that because they didn't pick up the first time
• 37:52
  with the with the America end around, like they both teams did enough to
• 37:55
  cost themselves this game. I don't think there's any argument there. Yeah,
• 37:59
  Brian, like Gary says, the guy who was on the ground and wwe
• 38:01
  slammed him, I mean, I mean he finished a block on top of
• 38:05
  him. We see it all the time. Yeah, that's that's not one
• 38:08
  that if it happened to Ohio State, we would be saying right now,
• 38:12
  how could you know that? How did you you don't want to decide the
• 38:15
  game on that kind of call. Dave k says his notre dame good d
• 38:19
  impress Hartman did not. My wife thinks. My wife thinks he's handsome.
• 38:22
  Though, for what it's worth, boy, there are some There were some
• 38:27
  shirtless pictures of Sam Hartman, like photoshop shirtless pictures of Sam Hartman at the
• 38:30
  game day set Brady Quinn's body. If only to me, if only it
• 38:37
  was half Brady Quinn's body. No no, no, no, no,
• 38:40
  uh yeah it was it was. I mean, Hartman is Hartman. There's
• 38:45
  a reason Sam Hartman is playing his sixth year of college football. He is
• 38:49
  not. He does not have the c. J. Stroud arm, He
• 38:54
  does not have the Trevor Lawrence, you know, full package. He just
• 39:00
  he's just a solid veteran quarterback college who will take everything you can give him.
• 39:14
  Like he he stood back in the pocket and it was like he's back
• 39:16
  there and was like is this five seconds of pocket? Six seconds of pocket?
• 39:21
  And then inevitably someone would come up and he'd find him. He had
• 39:24
  one where he just like started shot putting it out and it was just like
• 39:28
  that was the ugliest looking past. It looked like this is a terrible mistake
• 39:31
  and okay, first down. Just he he is just the wily veteran.
• 39:37
  He's the you know, you remember like Jamie Moyer at the end of his
• 39:40
  career, it's like who's the picture and who's the picture in Major League?
• 39:45
  Who just load Eddie Man? Yeah? Yeah, yeah with the Chris go
• 39:52
  Yeah that that that's I mean, he's not quite that, but he's kind
• 39:57
  of that. He's a lot closer to that than he is to like a
• 39:59
  CJ's out, but that there's a reason he's been in college football for six
• 40:05
  years and is you know, real high on them. The top him all
• 40:07
  his career passing record lists, because he's pretty good at what he does.
• 40:14
  He's you know, he's JT. Barrett, Like j D. Barrett beat
• 40:15
  a bunch of people, a bunch of teams over the years, and you
• 40:20
  know, you could look at J. T. Barren go, well,
• 40:22
  he wasn't doing doing I think it's the pros like, yeah, okay,
• 40:23
  but are you there's a reason he played that well, are you saying touchdowns?
• 40:28
  Jesus couldn't hit a curveball. I'm not sure if Joe Boo is Catholic
• 40:34
  or not. Mike Freeno says, just want to point out apparently USC still
• 40:38
  doesn't know what defense is. Asked you, and Drew Pine is stopping themselves
• 40:42
  more than USC is. I don't I don't know what the score is of
• 40:45
  that game, asked you? Is down to nine healthy scholarship offensive lineman and
• 40:51
  Drew Pine who was the the other name the quarterback last year who transferred out.
• 40:58
  Yeah, I mean twenty one thirteen, twenty one thirteen in the second
• 41:04
  half. Oh boy, that is that's good. It's not great. It
• 41:07
  is not They were like speaking what you want thirty four five. They were.
• 41:13
  They were a huge favorite. Michael K d eight jay i jay Now
• 41:19
  the strip face music actually made me laugh out last the first time in a
• 41:22
  long time. Thanks welcome, Thank you for tuning in. Anything we can
• 41:24
  do for yes, so oh Brandley Garre watch again he was already down,
• 41:30
  then slammer, he was down. Yes, yes it was yeah, yeah
• 41:35
  it wasn't necessary. So, yes it was some unnecessary roughness, but again
• 41:40
  it happens a lot. Uh kay, Simon, thank you for thank you
• 41:45
  very much as always. All right, we're caught up on superca Thank you.
• 41:50
  We have do we have interviews with let me know what we have interview
• 41:53
  wise in terms of or do we want to do questions first, but let's
• 42:00
  do questions for it. Okay, why don't you talk to our friends in
• 42:02
  South Florida and so we're gonna figure out on the interviews. Let's do some
• 42:07
  questions. Okay, all right? So Jordan B says, jumping USC for
• 42:13
  sure? Then this is a game world Hio State. Should you know the
• 42:15
  way Ohio State got jumped when Ohio State was playing nonsense teams and looking kind
• 42:20
  of mid uh and other teams were picking up big wins. Yet the Ohio
• 42:24
  State should move up. This is a good win. This is not blowing
• 42:28
  out LSU, but this is a good This is a good win. Mike
• 42:30
  Smith says he's the NFL version of Brian Hoyer in college. Fun fact,
• 42:35
  they are also the same age. Tyler Williams had a good game Burke lock
• 42:37
  to down. Yet Denzel Burke I really didn't notice Denzel. I didn't see
• 42:40
  a single anybody once maybe once. I really don't remember it. Tyler Williams
• 42:50
  had some big plays. Tyler Williams also like every once in a while,
• 42:53
  we'll talk to someone about Tyler Williams and athletic is he he is? And
• 42:57
  how he's one of the Like we've heard that he's one of the fast.
• 43:00
  This guy's in the first ten yards, like out of the blocks. Like
• 43:02
  he's not gonna beat you in a forty. But if you're just running ten
• 43:05
  yards, you know, it's it's like getting chased by a crocodile or whatever.
• 43:08
  You you don't you know, He's not going to run a marathon with
• 43:12
  you, but he can catch you if you if you're close. That's kind
• 43:15
  of Tyley Williams. There was a play where Tyley Williams did something good and
• 43:19
  then like jumped up in the air and I'm like, how does something that
• 43:22
  big get that high up? And like it was like whoa, I mean
• 43:25
  noticeably crazy, freaky athletic. It's been in there all this time, and
• 43:30
  it's just it's nice to finally it's starting to come together. He's certainly coming
• 43:35
  into his own. He's blossoming and he's becoming the player that we saw against.
• 43:39
  That's a true friend. Troy v says, I think they thread Burke
• 43:44
  once, and I think I think that's right. I kind of have this
• 43:46
  vague recollection of him maybe in coverage, and I don't think it was completed.
• 43:50
  You know that last drive for Notre Dame, Denzel Burke was getting on
• 43:55
  his team and on the field, it's down to us, like, yeah,
• 44:00
  we could win this right here, and he got He fired him up
• 44:05
  and j G tweet that was what I think the big tackle for loss and
• 44:07
  Sam Hartman lived there. Uh, Dave cases Buck, I had to lit
• 44:12
  the full package. Thank you, we appreciate it. Mike Freenoz's ignosen was
• 44:16
  the worst player on defense. Was really wondering why they didn't try out Hancock
• 44:20
  there at any point he I know he had a couple flags. He's a
• 44:25
  physical There was one where was he the guy who there was a path zone
• 44:34
  and I think that they ran a little slant or something inside him. I
• 44:37
  think that was him in coverage there got down maybe to the one yard line.
• 44:43
  I don't have a great vantage point on who's where at all times,
• 44:47
  especially downfield behind them, you know, behind the line and linebackers and all.
• 44:53
  Did he did he have that rough of a night? I don't.
• 44:58
  I mean he had a but if you look at how many drives did he
• 45:02
  keep alive with penalties? You know, I don't know that it was many,
• 45:06
  but I also thought Jordan Hancock must have done really well and the Nickel
• 45:09
  because you didn't really see a lot of the the He wasn't giving up much.
• 45:14
  We've seen him chasing before. Yeah, he was not chasing. So
• 45:16
  I don't think you would. I don't think they would have messed with anything
• 45:19
  right now because it's working. Sue says. Two guys Savior Bacon Tonight,
• 45:23
  JT and Julian Fleming talk a little out JT Julian Fleming had Julian Fleming.
• 45:30
  There were a couple of times that I thought, if they're definitely Marv on
• 45:31
  every player, where are you not just taking a shot to Julian Fleming?
• 45:35
  And they really didn't. But he's another guy who and I don't think we've
• 45:42
  said Julian Fleming's name yet, no, And I was wondering when we would
• 45:45
  start to see him, and then Kyle did grow grow deep to him a
• 45:50
  couple of times there at the end. It was it was weird that he
• 45:54
  was so uninvolved, because you would think it doesn't just have to be a
• 46:00
  Mecca Marvin and Cage Stover. So yeah, I was surprised that he wasn't
• 46:06
  more involved, and it was he was almost invisible at times. Gee,
• 46:09
  Scott, I don't think he played a little. But they didn't do it
• 46:12
  as much twelve as I was expecting. And so just overall a pretty odd
• 46:16
  offensive day. What happens if they don't get that sixty one yard or from
• 46:22
  trade beyond that was half their yards. Yeah, So yeah, like I
• 46:24
  Notre Dame Randa ball better than Ohio State. Even though Ohio Statement have had
• 46:29
  a higher yards per carry, Notre Dame was the more efficient, more consistent
• 46:34
  running attack, Yes, but really more. I mean, I don't know
• 46:37
  that that was necessarily true for the first three quarters because it just it felt
• 46:42
  like Estimate was just constantly getting stuffed for two yards or one yard or something
• 46:45
  like that. For the first the first half, it felt like everyone other
• 46:49
  than Estimate was running better. Love was running better than than Estimate was.
• 46:53
  And we've talked about the fact that Estimate is the kind of back that Ohio
• 46:57
  State has typically not gotten killed. They have they typically a kind of control
• 47:01
  that type of back better than some of the other types of backs. But
• 47:06
  you know, once it felt to me more like, well, has it
• 47:08
  wore down? And that's when Notre Dame was started running the ball a lot
• 47:12
  better. I could. Look, we have to look up at the halftime
• 47:15
  stats, like what was the yards for carry for Notre Dame in the first
• 47:16
  half. I don't I bet it's lower than it was in the second.
• 47:20
  The third quarter touchdown drive four Notre Dame they ran ten times for fifty four
• 47:24
  yards and it was there was like an eighteen yard or a sixteen yard or
• 47:27
  you know seven and they were just moving the defensive line. And that's why
• 47:31
  it was so impressive that all I say, it's defense was able to eventually
• 47:35
  stop that and thank you for throwing the ball. Yeah, yeah, that's
• 47:40
  yeah, that's one where the coordinator there is going to be kicking himself as
• 47:45
  well. But yeah, that's You've got a six year, sixty year quarterback,
• 47:49
  so right, yeah, you you assume he's going to make those plays.
• 47:53
  Mike Feno says, wasn't really about the flags. His wide receivers consistently
• 47:57
  one getting the ball though, wasn't aprocious, but left a lot to be
• 47:59
  desiring coverage I did, yep. Yeah, and that's that's I guess I'm
• 48:09
  going to vote present on this one and go go rewatch the game. This
• 48:15
  this feels like a week when we're gonna do the the Rewatch Show on what
• 48:19
  Wednesday for byway, and it's gonna be the seven forty seven things we noticed
• 48:23
  rewatching Ohio State versus Notre Dame. Because there's a bunch of stuff that I'm
• 48:27
  still thinking, oh yeah, we need to talk about that, Like well,
• 48:30
  that that Travi and Henderson run. I think Kevin mentioned that while we
• 48:32
  were watching it live. It's like it looked like he wanted to hurdle.
• 48:37
  It was like, you know what, I'm gonna stay on the ground,
• 48:38
  see what happens. Well, there was someone who I thought was gonna get
• 48:42
  him right at the end, and he and didn't, and he turned on
• 48:45
  you know, he's someone who you know, Ryan Nay had a little bit
• 48:47
  of answer my critics kind of game in some ways, and Travin Henderson had
• 48:52
  to did to his well, because Krivin Henderson is someone who gets the reputation
• 48:55
  of oh goes down in first contact, like it's people have said that about
• 49:00
  him for a long time and it's it's like, I don't know that that's
• 49:02
  really a fair assessment. But he you know, he had a he ran
• 49:08
  some tough he had some tough runs tonight, and they pull him off the
• 49:13
  yard, off the field in some goal line situations. Obviously they last play
• 49:16
  the game. But you know, he is he's someone who I think is
• 49:22
  I think they've sort of figured out what they can do with him. That
• 49:24
  really puts him in a position to use his talent, because he's a very
• 49:28
  talented player. But you know, there's not You're not You're not going to
• 49:31
  be the speedback and also be the power back. Uh. You know that
• 49:36
  that is a very unusual combination if you have someone who can do both of
• 49:38
  those things. He's you know, but he has a very defined role at
• 49:43
  this point. It feels like he's, you know, been a very very
• 49:45
  important part of this uh and part of this offense. What's next is Mike
• 49:52
  Marina? We haven't we Yes, we did that one. Yep, Sue
• 49:55
  reiterated there, yep, yep, su thank you, Sue. Case even
• 50:00
  how is Ransom at one hundred and fifty pounds The dB that hits people go
• 50:04
  on hundred and fifty pounds, but he's probably two h five issue. Yeah,
• 50:07
  let's look like that. But he can he can he can lay the
• 50:09
  Lumber. Yeah, there was one he hits somebody. I'm like, I
• 50:13
  look like Tommy Eikenberg. And then he watched the replay. Oh no,
• 50:15
  no, that was late three Ransom just coming up, and that dude he
• 50:19
  can hit. Let's let's talk about Josh Proctor and Lathen Ransom because all week
• 50:23
  long I was harping on the play action Stuffy. They held up. They
• 50:29
  did, Yeah, they did just fine. Yeah, And I mean here
• 50:30
  here's a look at the stats. Lathan Ransom thirteen tackles, seven solos,
• 50:37
  Josh seven tackles, five solos, Davis niggnos and six tackles two solos,
• 50:43
  one half of the TfL Sunday Style six tackles, three solos, steel chambers,
• 50:49
  six tackles, j T two moloa, six tackles. That's a big
• 50:52
  name for JT two moloah five for Tommy Eikenberg. I mean, that's a
• 50:55
  that I see. I didn't realize it. Lay Than Ransom had thirteen tackles.
• 51:00
  That's a big day. Well, I see a bunch of safety tackles,
• 51:04
  and you know what they say, when do you have a bunch of
• 51:06
  safety tackles, it's not good news. Yeah, that typically is not that's
• 51:09
  seventy six yards rushing, yeah or whatever it was. It's just the fact
• 51:14
  that they kept them out of the end zone. Yeah. And that's so
• 51:19
  that's the lesson that Jim Knowles has learned from last year. It's it's no
• 51:22
  longer you know, baking anything in. It's let's keep them out of the
• 51:25
  end zone. Make them earn it. They earned it twice. Yeah.
• 51:30
  Yeah. And I mean looking at these game stats here, just a team
• 51:34
  by team comparison, Everyone's gonna say time of possession and I'm going to say,
• 51:37
  shut up. But you know, the two four in the red zone
• 51:42
  for Ohio State, that's not to go on the road against a good opponent.
• 51:47
  They go two or four in the red zone and win. That's pretty
• 51:50
  amazing. The other thing, it's interesting. Two hundred and forty yards passing
• 51:53
  for Kyle McCord, one hundred and seventy five for Sam Hartman. That's I
• 51:58
  mean, there was a way that Kyle McCord way out passes him. And
• 52:02
  it's bad news for all halfdight. This was this was like just the right
• 52:06
  amount of passing. This might have been right in your wheelhouse of your Kyle
• 52:08
  Accord Bold prediction was a little it was a little low. I had him
• 52:12
  in two eighty or something. Mike Freeno says, try also almost broke for
• 52:15
  a touchdown and the failed first down of the yeah, failed fourth down sequence
• 52:21
  was just barely tripped up. Would have been a touchdown if he could have
• 52:22
  kept his dons. Yes, for sure, and that one was going to
• 52:27
  be a touchdown. It was a little bit of a nick on the ankle,
• 52:30
  on the foot and it was enough. But yeah, I thought he
• 52:32
  was gone there as well. Okay, let's let's let's pump some questions in
• 52:39
  there. Then. Uh. Stephen Harvell says, uh, Floming may also
• 52:49
  be the best blocking receiver in the country. Too bad he placed tide receiver
• 52:52
  time to bulk him up into a tight end. Then he would get the
• 52:55
  football. He would he would he placed tight end. He's He's an unsung,
• 53:00
  unselfish guy that everybody needs. I remember Evan Spencer being the MVP exactly
• 53:06
  the con Alabama game or whatever that that just you do whatever it takes,
• 53:09
  you do whatever you're asked to do. Everybody notice that it'll you'll see it'll
• 53:14
  it'll carry you. You don't need fourteen hundred yards receiving to be seen by
• 53:17
  the people who need to see this sort of stuff. So yeah, you
• 53:21
  need guys like him on the team. Robert says the run defense will need
• 53:24
  to get better, but to hold them to fourteen is impressive. Yeah,
• 53:28
  this is not a finished product, but told them to fourteen is impressive.
• 53:34
  That was a that's a that's a big time performance. And this is you
• 53:37
  know, would Ohio State fans be feeling better if this game was thirty eight,
• 53:44
  thirty five or seventeen fourteen had ended up? I mean, which which
• 53:50
  one are you feeling better about? If you're an Ohio State fan, you
• 53:53
  have to feel better about this one because you want it in a way that
• 53:57
  you have got won games before, right, Yeah, you have own this
• 54:00
  is This is you are showing you can win in more than one way.
• 54:04
  It does not have to be the weather rade and and you're on good turf
• 54:07
  and everything's great. It is not too much wind, and you're gonna score
• 54:12
  a lot of points and then you'll all score the proponent who's also going to
• 54:15
  score points Like this is this was a okay, you can do it a
• 54:20
  different way, which for a team that's had defensive questions you know, the
• 54:23
  defense has kept them from winning national titles three years in a row, basically
• 54:29
  every year since twenty nineteen. This year maybe not, We'll see. Sorry,
• 54:36
  is we've been talking a lot of tips up, Mike Freeno. Wonder
• 54:38
  how much the one play touchdown drive affected the defense in the third quarter.
• 54:43
  They had absolutely no time to recover. That's true where Trabean Henderson has the
• 54:46
  one play drive and then the defense goes right back out there. And that
• 54:51
  was you know, I mean time of possession is a stat that I really
• 54:54
  don't care for. It's more, you know, number of plays rather than
• 55:00
  and time off the clock. But you had a bunch of players right in
• 55:04
  a row there with the two you know, the back to back drives with
• 55:07
  just one play in the middle, that is going to mess with your you
• 55:12
  know, mess with your defense. And where are you down? And you
• 55:15
  know you did see that team were down. That was I'm not going to
• 55:21
  have the view that I want on that's all right, Blake says, too
• 55:24
  bad this game broke the twenty point scoring street. I didn't even think about
• 55:28
  that. I guess that's sure that this is the first time they have not
• 55:30
  scored twenty points since what the Clemson is it really Festibal? I think I
• 55:38
  or was it? Did they? Did they not? Did they scored twenty
• 55:42
  against Oklahoma in twenty seventeen. I mean, that's only a different than like
• 55:45
  two games. But yeah, I gotta tell you, I don't think Ryan
• 55:51
  Day was thinking about that during the on the field after the game. That's
• 55:54
  one of those fun facts that that's why I'm saying, like, you've won
• 55:59
  this game in a different way that you've won in this game in a way
• 56:01
  that people said you haven't. However, percent of the pundits picking Notre Dame
• 56:07
  because you don't win games like this. You have it, and now you've
• 56:10
  gone out and done it, and this gives everybody confidence and whether or not
• 56:15
  manifest itself against Michigan, at least now you have proof of concept that hey,
• 56:22
  we can win the tough games. We can win the game where we
• 56:25
  have to have a sixty five yard drive whatever it was, and the final
• 56:30
  ninety seconds of a game, and you can do it when you are backed
• 56:35
  up and you have a third down, third and long, like the had
• 56:38
  four third downs on that final drive, and the amount of pressure that they
• 56:44
  were under that they dealt with I think is something that you build on.
• 56:47
  It's something that everybody rallies around. Cal McCord. The offensive line gains strength
• 56:53
  from this. So just a lot of confidence and not not false confidence because
• 56:58
  you've gone out there and and it's just an understanding of your capabilities as well.
• 57:04
  Yeah, Mike Freeno says, Marcus Freeman now has as many elves as
• 57:07
  day which he's coached. This is his second year. He's you know,
• 57:13
  a year and four games now five games now, Yeah, that's you know,
• 57:19
  and that that tells you Number One, Marcus Freeman a real rough start
• 57:22
  to last year. They had one of those like highlight videos on there and
• 57:25
  there was a picture or video of a Notre Dame player hitting someone from Marshall.
• 57:30
  It's like, I don't know that you want to put that up there.
• 57:32
  That's not that's not bringing back happy memories for anyone. Yeah, uh,
• 57:37
  big win. Stephen says Ton of shame update. I don't have we
• 57:42
  I got at least a couple, Yeah, I have. I don't remember
• 57:45
  any n the court throwing for a hundred yards more than than No department and
• 57:52
  he didn't trade doubling up on audrac estimate. I don't know if he did
• 58:00
  that or not. This is oh, this is this is. We have
• 58:06
  been just running around all day. So I'm like, I see someone comment
• 58:09
  something about Alabama. I'm like, oh, what happened to Alabama today?
• 58:13
  Uh? Mike Smith, Iowa had seventy six total yards today with fifty six
• 58:16
  of it being through the air. It could be so much worse for us.
• 58:20
  If used properly, this game could pay off later. Final score from
• 58:22
  a happy Valley Tony Penn State thirty one, Iowa zero. What was the
• 58:27
  over under? The over under was like thirty six and a half or thirty
• 58:30
  eight and and uh last week they got forty one points I believe against Central
• 58:37
  Michigan uh and Western Michigan whichever whoever they played last week and uh so then
• 58:43
  he was over his magic number of twenty five points per game. He is
• 58:45
  now back under his magic number of twenty five points per game. That is,
• 58:52
  you know, getting shut out Tony we we. This would be a
• 58:53
  great transition to some of the choices that were made in the in the game.
• 58:59
  For the I don't even know where to begin. The one, the
• 59:02
  one that springs to mind is Ryan Day having a timeout watching Notre Dame run
• 59:09
  the ball on third down, it's fourth and a mile, and he watches
• 59:14
  them run the play clock all the way down. It doesn't take a time
• 59:15
  out. Every person who has ever played video game flootball knows you use your
• 59:22
  timeouts on defense. This is not like you know, you don't need to
• 59:24
  be this like great ball. Nowhere, you have to understand. When I
• 59:29
  have the ball, I can control how much time runs off the clock.
• 59:31
  When they have the ball, I can't control how much time runs off the
• 59:35
  clock. I look at that, and I think, certainly he knows this.
• 59:39
  Certainly he knows this. I think he is doing too much. I
• 59:46
  think he needs to either stop calling plays or have someone who is just his
• 59:51
  czar of Hey, here's the coach stuff you should be doing right now,
• 59:54
  because you can't do everything all at once. There's too much going on.
• 1:00:00
  He is not ready to let go of the play calling. Okay, that's
• 1:00:04
  fine, you gotta have someone to do that, because he's not an idiot.
• 1:00:08
  But that's not how you made is that situation? And yet what happens
• 1:00:14
  if they don't have that time out they have they have thirty five more seconds
• 1:00:19
  and then the ten second runoff doesn't matter. You still have twenty five extra
• 1:00:22
  seconds on the clock, because that's how it works. That's why you call
• 1:00:24
  timeouts on defense. I'm with you. I think I was surprised he didn't.
• 1:00:30
  I think this is something they talk about beforehand. How much time do
• 1:00:34
  we need? They wanted to save that time out in case anything bad happens,
• 1:00:37
  and something bad did have something bad happening, such as thirty five extra
• 1:00:43
  seconds running off the is But I think ninety seconds is enough time to move
• 1:00:46
  down the field with a timeout or without a timeout. Yet, ninety seconds
• 1:00:52
  is enough time to move down the field with the timeout. You know what,
• 1:00:54
  It's enough time to move down the field without a time out two minutes
• 1:00:58
  and five seconds roughly. Yeah, as as a matter of fact, as
• 1:01:01
  it works out. Yeah, and again, both teams tried to could have
• 1:01:06
  could have given this way this game away a couple of times. Ohio State
• 1:01:08
  was fortunate that Notre Dame wanted to give it away more. It was there
• 1:01:15
  were Yeah, we talked about the fourth and one and around Tamco Buca that
• 1:01:17
  was like out what this is? But the yeah, the timeout was bizarre.
• 1:01:25
  The Notre Dame had a couple I mean the throwing the ball when you
• 1:01:30
  just needed to run the book, run the clock out. That was that
• 1:01:32
  was bizarre. Uh. You know, I'm working for some thing for ten
• 1:01:37
  players on the field. Yeah, twice Marcus Freeman probably says we were trying
• 1:01:39
  to win the game. You know, you're trying to trying to get that
• 1:01:43
  first down and it's over that sort of thing. But you know, if
• 1:01:47
  you continue to run the ball, if you have been running the ball directly
• 1:01:52
  at them, the last two drives for twenty four plays combined and fourteen minutes
• 1:01:58
  off the clock. Guess what probably still works? Super super chat for Mike
• 1:02:01
  Pourrino, A Travian had one hundred and four. Audrick Uh oh, I
• 1:02:08
  thought I said one forty. Anyway, do we have it on the question
• 1:02:22
  Arry red Legs getting upset about a ninety year old man calling you soft means
• 1:02:28
  you're absolutely soft. And here's the thing he's not. He wasn't getting annoyed
• 1:02:35
  about Lukholtz, wasn't calling Brian ASoft. He was calling you get football team
• 1:02:38
  soft. That's different. That's you know, you can you can say what
• 1:02:42
  you want about me, but don't don't talk bad about my kids. Kind
• 1:02:45
  of thing like this. I get it. I thought I was surprised at
• 1:02:50
  the level of enthusiasm of the response. Yeah, definitely. And this is
• 1:02:57
  a guy defending his players. It's what It's funny. It's like it's what
• 1:03:00
  some fans once you see, but then when it happens, it's like,
• 1:03:04
  no, not like that, right, you know, you know he should
• 1:03:07
  just just ignore it and move on. It's like he didn't want to move
• 1:03:10
  on. He didn't want to ignore it. He wanted to continue to talk
• 1:03:14
  about it and defend the players and tell them, you know, and he
• 1:03:19
  kept saying like it was one half of football. It was one half of
• 1:03:22
  football against Michigan that has created this narrative. And he's like, go find
• 1:03:28
  more of this film, Go find go show show me on film. Where
• 1:03:31
  where else this narrative is? I mean, does the last eight minutes of
• 1:03:36
  last year's Michigan he am not count because it wasn't extended drives and it was
• 1:03:38
  just seventy five yards at a time. I think, so, I'm I
• 1:03:44
  mean, it's I mean, it's missing one tackle. You know, it's
• 1:03:46
  kind of red words, you know that sort of thing. Okay, I
• 1:03:49
  mean, okay. Evan from heaven says, honestly, thank God for this
• 1:03:53
  bye week. They're gonna need time to come down from this dramatic win.
• 1:03:57
  They're also going to needy time to just heal up. That was. It
• 1:03:59
  was a hard hitting football game. There was a defensive starter who as they
• 1:04:02
  were walking out from the locker room, was saying to someone else, I'm
• 1:04:05
  gonna need to just have like a whole body ice bath tomorrow. Just it
• 1:04:11
  was. That was a hard hitting football game. And you know, Marvin
• 1:04:14
  Harrison's ankle and everyone is gonna want to take like go ahead. They normally
• 1:04:18
  they'll say we're gonna enjoy this one tonight and then on to the next one
• 1:04:21
  tomorrow there's a week off. But they said, he right, they said
• 1:04:25
  we're gonna enjoy this one. And then the sentence ended, and I was
• 1:04:29
  like, huh, that's different. Yeah. I thought Kyle of Court took
• 1:04:30
  some shots as well, and you know some of the scramble scrambles, took
• 1:04:35
  some head on collisions and you know, got out bounce back proved some of
• 1:04:40
  his toughness as well. My frames this Holtz called out both day specifically,
• 1:04:44
  but I also mentioned the team. Okay, so there you go. Well,
• 1:04:46
  I mean it was it was silly of lou Holtz to go that much
• 1:04:54
  overboard. But again I also believe there's some part of him that still wants
• 1:04:59
  to be rele event and he just he's playing a role at this point.
• 1:05:02
  He's going herketing back to his mark may days when those two guys would there
• 1:05:08
  were caricatures, they were clowns, and he's missed that. He's missed the
• 1:05:13
  circus and he's like, you know what, I've got some peanuts, let
• 1:05:16
  me feed some elephants, let me say some stuff that's going to end up
• 1:05:21
  costing you know. It's it didn't help things. And not that Olive State
• 1:05:27
  would have been, you know, softer or not as angry or as determined
• 1:05:31
  to win this, but I do think they were. They actually were angrier.
• 1:05:34
  Uh. Mark Feder says, you could hear the hits on TV.
• 1:05:38
  There were there were a number of them that were like, oh, like
• 1:05:41
  big, big, big hits. Market X says, Ryan is feeling the
• 1:05:45
  pressure. When you make ten million dollars a year, you should glad to
• 1:05:46
  see the emotion. Yeah, I mean, there there is a time of
• 1:05:49
  pressure and this was a weight lifted off of his shoulders. But like I
• 1:05:54
  said, it was it was the happiest we've ever seen him and the most
• 1:05:57
  angry we've ever seen him. And it was just weird. It would just
• 1:06:00
  depending on the question, I'd be like, you know, the the the
• 1:06:02
  red face or just a smile and you know, asking him about the chip
• 1:06:06
  training more or when I was asking him about you know, what were you
• 1:06:10
  thinking while you're waiting for the replay of chip train hims? You know,
• 1:06:13
  touchdowns, He's just like, you know, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown.
• 1:06:15
  He's just smiling. And then the next question just angry, angry day,
• 1:06:19
  happy day. It was goes up, so goes out, We're going to
• 1:06:24
  walk out? You got a yeah, oh yeah, yeah. That was
• 1:06:28
  the best moment of the press conference was he's done, He's walking out and
• 1:06:31
  I think it was Roballer from the Dispatch and can you talk about the deface
• 1:06:34
  the like oh yes, oh right, yes them, yes, yes,
• 1:06:39
  thank you to them again. Fourteen points yes, yeah, you'll take that.
• 1:06:43
  Super day from Dave, k Tony and Kevin. How would you rate
• 1:06:45
  days promo cut compared to legends like Flair, Hogan, etc. You know
• 1:06:49
  what, Uh, it was pretty good because he was dropping some lines,
• 1:06:54
  and I was tweeting, tweeting some of them out. I don't have them
• 1:06:56
  all on me, but basically, you know, like like watch the Philip
• 1:07:00
  you gotta put your foot in the ground. At one point he said,
• 1:07:03
  you know, hard Times, daddy. You know he went into he went
• 1:07:05
  into the dusty roads. Lou Holmes put hard Times on me, daddy,
• 1:07:12
  exactly. Kevin, what did you think? I thought it was pretty solid.
• 1:07:15
  He could join nWo whenever he'd like, Yeah, at some point,
• 1:07:20
  you gotta put your foot in the ground. But god, that's Ryan Day's
• 1:07:25
  music. I don't know where that narrative comes from, but that ends tonight.
• 1:07:28
  Yeah, Austin three sixteen just says you know that sort of thing,
• 1:07:32
  and he's just pulling out all these one liners. And that was That was
• 1:07:36
  the most emotional I've seen him. As you said earlier, it's the most
• 1:07:39
  emotional we've seen an Ohio state coach since Urban Meyer in twenty seventeen. I
• 1:07:44
  don't even know who joins the top three in those two moments, Luke Fickle,
• 1:07:48
  did we win? Yeah, which is just a matter of fact more
• 1:07:53
  than emotion. Yeah, Rick wants to know if we picked up any not
• 1:07:57
  name merch. I did not, don't. Oh yeah, yeah, a
• 1:08:01
  couple of some pike glasses from the linebacker lounge in read from the top of
• 1:08:08
  the So what does it say? And I've also got these sweet paper credentials
• 1:08:15
  that I was I was sure we're gonna rep and I would be stuck either
• 1:08:19
  inside or outside the stadium. I'm not sure. I had a very handsome
• 1:08:21
  photo vest. That was nice to get to give that back, though,
• 1:08:26
  did you we are like, see my vest? See my vest? Not
• 1:08:30
  any more than I during a normal game. Uh, Mike Smith? Has
• 1:08:34
  Kevin did our friend? Uh the Irish fan from Dallas making appearances? No?
• 1:08:40
  No, no? Yeah. Well, and here's the thing. This
• 1:08:43
  is Notre Dame fans have for the last thirty years. It feels like,
• 1:08:50
  yes, this it hasn't worked out in the past, but this time it's
• 1:08:54
  going to be different. Here's the nick this timing, darn near was different.
• 1:08:59
  Like this is this That is as close as you can come to winning
• 1:09:00
  a football game without winning a football game. I mean it was literally one
• 1:09:05
  play, three seconds, one yard and one extagram field. That's it.
• 1:09:14
  That's that's how close they came to winning. And if they win it swings
• 1:09:18
  every possible. The narrative around Ohio State is see, look they are soft,
• 1:09:25
  they can't do it, they can't win in the big moment, Ryan
• 1:09:28
  Day folds again. They can't fit. And then Notre Dame is Marcus Freeman
• 1:09:31
  has arrived and they are that. That is the big story on every you
• 1:09:35
  know, game day, everything, And instead Notre Dame forgets to count to
• 1:09:42
  eleven, Ohio State gets chip training and over the line by that much,
• 1:09:45
  and then Ryan Day gets kind of promo and loopholes and Notre Dame has fallen
• 1:09:49
  short yet again in you know, hey, guess what. They still don't
• 1:09:54
  know how the skill talent outside. It's it's a lot of boy. They've
• 1:09:57
  got a great line, the quarterback plays better, they still don't have the
• 1:10:00
  skill time outside. It's like it's the same thing again, Lucy. Lucy
• 1:10:03
  pulled the football, but she waited until the last month. Well, you're
• 1:10:06
  right, it's the same thing. And that's what we talked about before the
• 1:10:09
  game. That Ohio State wins this, it's going to be more about Notre
• 1:10:14
  Dame is Notre Dame of old and you know, forever the same, rather
• 1:10:18
  than what Ohio State was able to do and winning here. People want to
• 1:10:23
  talk about late joiners want to talk about Notre Dame only having ten guys out
• 1:10:27
  there. Okay, so we'll circle back on Notre Dame having ten guys out
• 1:10:30
  on the out on the field. I thought it was sporting first of all.
• 1:10:32
  From Jeremiah Yoder Austin three sixteen says, Ohio State just kicked odor Lane.
• 1:10:39
  Oh I'm gonna say, but I've never heard odor Lane before. I
• 1:10:45
  have been on I have been on the internet for a long time, and
• 1:10:47
  I have never seen oder Lane before. That is a new one. Okay,
• 1:10:51
  So let's talk a little bit about the ten guys in the field twice,
• 1:10:55
  folks, that ye twice Tony. At game day today there were a
• 1:11:01
  bunch of signs about My favorite one was thirty four twenty nine. Thirty four
• 1:11:09
  was in green, twenty nine was in red, and it said score prediction
• 1:11:14
  or average act score question mark, Tony. If you're gonna make a big
• 1:11:18
  point of telling everyone how smart you are, you really need to be able
• 1:11:24
  to count to eleven. That's a real big thing. You gotta be a
• 1:11:27
  fair minimum down to eleven. I do remember feels like table Stakes Friday when
• 1:11:30
  we were on the Quad or whatever we were on, and I think it
• 1:11:35
  was Michael Campbell saying, you just look around, see all these people with
• 1:11:39
  money that are walking around and can they so like I'm starting to say,
• 1:11:46
  I'm starting to realize why we have so many financial crises. Maybe is that's
• 1:11:50
  true? Yes, but yes you have so many people in the press box
• 1:11:56
  with binoculars and spotters and the ability to count should be like I guess at
• 1:12:03
  this point it's not something you talk about into your interview because you this has
• 1:12:09
  just assumed. Well, like every time it goes out for a placement,
• 1:12:14
  I see Jesse Marco on one knee and he's pointing and he's counting, and
• 1:12:19
  he's Australia, so he gets to do it. He has to do it
• 1:12:23
  backwards. But you point and you count, get and it's and it's so
• 1:12:27
  stupid. It's so stupid, like of course, like one, two,
• 1:12:31
  three, four, it's like, okay, do you do you really have
• 1:12:34
  to do this? Yes you do, because otherwise every once in a while
• 1:12:38
  you'll have ten and it's really gonna matter. Yeah, and it's it's unacceptable.
• 1:12:43
  It's to happen once you're like, boy, that was stupid to happen
• 1:12:47
  twice. It's completely unacceptable. And and as we talked about, you know,
• 1:12:51
  there's it's in the moment, so you can't you can apparently couldn't get
• 1:12:57
  a time out called. And there's ten guys on the field. They don't
• 1:13:00
  know that the eleventh guy has it there. The eleventh guy doesn't. He
• 1:13:03
  thinks he's the twelfth guys because he's on the sideline. And I just wonder
• 1:13:06
  where did where did the lack of communication? Who dropped the ball on that?
• 1:13:13
  I guess maybe we'll find out in the mid week interviews or whatever.
• 1:13:15
  You know, I don't know what Marcus Freeman had to say about that.
• 1:13:19
  It's one of those flapping, look at the film type of things. We'll
• 1:13:23
  have to talk about it as a staff Johnny, what position group was it
• 1:13:27
  that was short player? Well? I believe it was the defensive line because
• 1:13:33
  I don't think anybody was lined up over Josh Simmons. Is that correct?
• 1:13:36
  Is that what? I believe? That's right? And does that Al Washington's
• 1:13:41
  That's what I was just looking up. Defensive line coach defensive run the game
• 1:13:45
  coordinator forber Ohio State linebacker coach Washington see that just hit me. Wait a
• 1:13:57
  minute, I know who their defensive line coach is. And then Washington they
• 1:14:01
  Churian coach. Yes, Washingtonton's coming back. He's back with Ohio State.
• 1:14:10
  That's yeah, all Washington's the third man. That's not that's not great.
• 1:14:15
  That is not great. Dave K wants to know Dave K Wilson and what
• 1:14:21
  was the final verdict and how many OSU fans were in the stadium. Tony
• 1:14:25
  and I both guessed about twenty percent because there was the side that the TV
• 1:14:30
  camera was on, like the TV cameras are on, was all Notre Dame
• 1:14:33
  fans. That's like all I think season ticket holders. It's where the student
• 1:14:36
  section is. That was just a wall of green on that side. So
• 1:14:40
  the other side you had Ohio State fans kind of space throughout it was it
• 1:14:45
  was loud enough. There were enough Ohio State fans there that were It was
• 1:14:48
  loud enough that when they showed a replay at one point, I think it
• 1:14:53
  was the replay of the chip training and score at the very end, the
• 1:14:58
  cheer was loud enough that I went, oh, did he not score?
• 1:15:01
  Because it was like, yeah, he did a good sized junk of the
• 1:15:04
  Notre Dame fan base realized he didn't score. No, that was the Ohio
• 1:15:06
  State fans. There were, there were. It was not you know,
• 1:15:12
  it was not Ohio State completely taking over the stadium by any means. But
• 1:15:15
  also it was not Notre Dame doing this incredible job keeping the you know,
• 1:15:17
  keeping the barbarians outside the game. There are some Buckeye fans were some really
• 1:15:21
  good seats this one, like uh huh, you know right down there on
• 1:15:26
  the field near us in the corner, and it just you know, they
• 1:15:30
  had their pockets. They did a very good job. They were they were
• 1:15:32
  felt, they were loud, they enjoyed the postgame atmosphere or the team basically
• 1:15:39
  just coming down the sideline, you know, all of the crowd that going
• 1:15:42
  into the tunnel places going crazy. Really overall, it's really cool scene,
• 1:15:46
  really really good game. Despite a seventeen fourteen game three nothing, not a
• 1:15:51
  half, it felt like there there were so many big moments because you knew
• 1:15:57
  there weren't going to be a lot of points scored, so at any point
• 1:15:59
  like, yeah, this this could be it's like watching baseball. Oh yeah,
• 1:16:02
  no, it was. It was exactly. It was like watching playoff
• 1:16:04
  baseball, and it's yes, it's a two to one game, and it's
• 1:16:08
  like any hit is a big hit because they're having been very many hits.
• 1:16:13
  Any any big play they got you even just into field goal range was a
• 1:16:16
  big play because you just you weren't down in field goal range very but no
• 1:16:19
  one was. It just may just and when they were they Notre Dame failed
• 1:16:24
  to convert at least once in the red zone, and Ohio State failed to
• 1:16:26
  convert quice in the red zone. So Jordan's truly impressive to see record against
• 1:16:30
  all odds lead this team with all hope seemed lost down the field to win
• 1:16:32
  the game. Yeah, that is a I think that's a mark of a
• 1:16:36
  quarterback that you can rely on, one that asn't always pretty but finds a
• 1:16:42
  way. And that last drive, I think we talked about this before the
• 1:16:44
  show. Fifteen plays, sixty five yards, one minute, twenty seven seconds.
• 1:16:49
  I don't even know how it was. I know what all these numbers
• 1:16:53
  mean. That Yeah, yeah, that's that's that's the one that Ryan Day
• 1:16:57
  is complaining about when other people did to him that. But it was just
• 1:17:00
  it was so many incomplete passes. I mean, yeah, I think I
• 1:17:04
  think the fourth third downs on that drive and their back was against the wall
• 1:17:10
  from the outset, and so many third downs and Calvincorn was throwing some strikes
• 1:17:15
  in there on those plays. I'm looking forward to going back and watching that
• 1:17:18
  final drive and see the broadcast how they were reacting to it. I wonder
• 1:17:23
  what the narrative is coming out of this game. Is this just seen as
• 1:17:26
  Notre Dame just once again failing, or is this scene as Ohio State overcoming.
• 1:17:31
  I mean, it's the Internet, so everyone's going to focus on the
• 1:17:33
  negative. But here's that last Ohio State drive. Incomplete pass, incomplete pass,
• 1:17:41
  twenty three year pass to a Mecca above, incomplete pass, three yard
• 1:17:45
  pass, decades go over, incomplete pass, seven yard pass to Julian Fleming,
• 1:17:50
  incomplete pass, nineteen yard pass to Morvin Harrison, incomplete pass. Chord
• 1:18:00
  gets sacked on the intentional intentional grounding play UH. Completed pass to Amca Abuka
• 1:18:05
  for twenty one yards, UH down to the one he spikes it, throws
• 1:18:10
  the incomplete past to Irvin Harrison and then Chip Training rushing touchdown. It feels
• 1:18:14
  like you are describing dizzy bat baseball, where sometimes he gets it over the
• 1:18:18
  fence. Yes, Yeah, it's just it was just kind of it was
• 1:18:26
  all or nothing. Someone called him bipolar earlier, which is because some of
• 1:18:30
  the some it wasn't just like oh well he just barely missed some of the
• 1:18:32
  income by passes were like those first two passes didn't start raining and just that
• 1:18:39
  one end of the stadium. What happened, Like I said, like an
• 1:18:41
  hour ago or whatever, those first two passes to Trevion made it seem like
• 1:18:45
  this was too big of a moment for Kyle of Accord. Yeah, and
• 1:18:47
  I just kept kept moseying on down the field, kept matriculating the ball down
• 1:18:53
  the field. Here's here's another one, Matthew Atkins. This is a great
• 1:18:56
  example of oh my gosh, this is a great example of how much crap
• 1:19:00
  happened in this game. We've been talking, We've been talking for an hour
• 1:19:04
  and thirty five minutes or something like that. We had not gotten to the
• 1:19:08
  tip drill. The kid stover. Uh. Matthew says, it's a shame
• 1:19:12
  of his knee touched the ground. That was like I'm shooting this and I'm
• 1:19:15
  looking through the camera and it the ball goes up and it's like, oh
• 1:19:19
  boy, This is gonna be real bad because generally, and the ball goes
• 1:19:23
  up right at the line of scrimmage, there are a lot of dudes in
• 1:19:26
  great ready to pick it off, and kid Stover catches it, and I
• 1:19:30
  couldn't tell exactly where he was. The depth perception is not great down there.
• 1:19:34
  I didn't know where he was. But then he just kind of like
• 1:19:36
  spins and keeps running and there's no whistles, and I'm like, what is
• 1:19:41
  going on. There's no way, there's no way he caught that with that
• 1:19:44
  because he was he was twisted around like a pretzel. But just to make
• 1:19:47
  that catch, that was a month because that was I think it was third
• 1:19:53
  I think it was a third down play. That's a that's a huge play.
• 1:19:57
  And that's that's one of those you know, the crazy play, the
• 1:20:00
  crazy play where the you know, the quarterback throws it and gets batted back
• 1:20:01
  to him and then he catches it and he runs for the first time.
• 1:20:03
  Was yeah, I mean, not quite that. But to catch a deflected
• 1:20:09
  pass in such a crucial moment like that and then have the wherewithal to try
• 1:20:13
  and do the Michael Buyer thing like no, actually, uh no, that
• 1:20:16
  didn't touch the ground. I don't even know what happened after that? Was
• 1:20:20
  that the scoring drive. I don't even this is so long ago, it's
• 1:20:24
  so many Yeah, I don't. I don't know. The next time I
• 1:20:27
  watched the game will be the first time I watched. Yeah, it's true.
• 1:20:30
  Well, next time, Kevin said, the next time he watches it
• 1:20:31
  will be the first time, because there's so much for seventeen fourteen game,
• 1:20:36
  a lot happened and takes the points. Just finally talking about that crazy play
• 1:20:43
  up Ran Daniel says, go check. The USC score was R twenty seven
• 1:20:49
  twenty one. Hey, speaking of former all have state assistance, the alex
• 1:20:54
  grnch defense. You're always looking for consistency out of your defense, Tony Well,
• 1:20:59
  and they have it, Drew Drew Pine. They won a lot of
• 1:21:00
  games here last year for Notre Dame Arizona State has I mean, you only
• 1:21:06
  need five healthy offensive linemen, so they have nine. That's almost that's as
• 1:21:10
  many as they need. So that's that seems that seems like frankly, they're
• 1:21:13
  hoarding offensive I ever since the pandemic, I have for hoarding toilet paper and
• 1:21:20
  offensive lineman. That is what you you open up the the equipment shed at
• 1:21:25
  Arizona State's old it's in there all Sanitizer University. I'm holding on Kevin Valodi
• 1:21:36
  Internet Kevin or Kevin is arguing with someone. Uh wasn't here. Mike says
• 1:21:42
  Jeff Hafley should return to Ohio State. I have not looked at what happened
• 1:21:45
  in order to Boston College this one. I don't think that's another. I
• 1:21:49
  did not do a great job and keeping track of what was going on this
• 1:21:53
  Saturday because of what was going on here at what was really just an incredible
• 1:21:58
  place. We lost fifty six twenty two Louisville. So we'll see if you
• 1:22:02
  have Hasley has a job on Monday. Yeah, I feel like the position
• 1:22:10
  of Ohio State's defensive formator is filled until further notice, didn't you, Yeah,
• 1:22:13
  for sure. And I don't know if I'll get a chance to talk
• 1:22:16
  to your hear from Jim Knowles on this, but he was he was happy
• 1:22:21
  enough to come off the bus and talk to us because he was already he
• 1:22:25
  was already on the bus and Jerry having like, hey I'm talking, Yes,
• 1:22:29
  sure, yeah, I'll talk. Yeah, I got I got plenty
• 1:22:31
  to talk about. I think even in the post game where Ryan Day is
• 1:22:34
  talking to Jerry's like two more questions and Ryan Day's like, no, we
• 1:22:36
  can, yeah, we can hang out. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:22:41
  Everybody loves to talk after Like Mark Fetner says, Buckeye hed all marathon l
• 1:22:45
  O L Yeah, we're two forty one right now, but yeah we're still
• 1:22:48
  listen if you got if you crazy kids want to stay up with us,
• 1:22:50
  Wilson, we'll stay up. We're fine. We got to really Kevin.
• 1:22:57
  Kevin's complaining. Oh as a mission, I'm like the other it is.
• 1:23:02
  It is a little chilly. It's like Mike Smith says, on that note,
• 1:23:04
  how far does Ohio State dropped? Because I'm sure this is an ugly
• 1:23:08
  win, but others who played in close games just play tough games. That's
• 1:23:10
  how this works. And everybody watched it. So everybody watched it. But
• 1:23:15
  you know this is you gotta win, right, That's what they say,
• 1:23:18
  you play to win the game. I believe I heard. I believe I've
• 1:23:21
  heard that summer before speaking of Arizona State football. Yeah, no, I
• 1:23:26
  think this is it will be interesting to hear what the narrative is. Just
• 1:23:29
  the thoughts that people have from this and because it was a an incredible game
• 1:23:33
  and the way it ended, the way it almost ended, and the way
• 1:23:39
  it eventually ended. This was this is one that you continue to talk about
• 1:23:43
  as you're watching it. Mike says, appreciate you, guys, We appreciate
• 1:23:45
  you staying up with us. Sorry for the late start, but stead our
• 1:23:50
  fault. Yeah, yeah, just I mean, we can touch on that
• 1:23:53
  real quickly. The circus of the setup at Notre Dame is a little different
• 1:23:58
  Notre Dame. The reason we're outside this stadium and inside the stadium is they
• 1:24:01
  closed the press box an hour after the game. They do it's all I
• 1:24:04
  think it was as it was explained to me. It's all volunteers, like
• 1:24:08
  the ushers and stuff, so they don't want people inside the stadium afterwards.
• 1:24:13
  Normally we just hang out in the stadium, and you know, as long
• 1:24:16
  as we're not in the press box, we wouldn't do what it would whatever
• 1:24:19
  we need to do, as long as we need to do it here,
• 1:24:21
  they an hour after the hour, an hour after the postgame press conferences over
• 1:24:26
  at the press box closes. No live streaming inside the stadium. You've got
• 1:24:30
  to go. So it's a little bit of a little bit of a fire
• 1:24:32
  drill to get out here, get everything set up. I ran out first
• 1:24:36
  and was just like holding my phone so I could have so we could be
• 1:24:40
  like, Okay, hi, we're here, We're not dead. But yeah,
• 1:24:43
  it was a little bit of a circus. We got a little bit
• 1:24:45
  of a late start. But Devin and Garrett and Mark I appreciate them,
• 1:24:48
  great, great stuff from them earlier. So it wasn't an overly long game.
• 1:24:53
  It could have been even later, you know, because don't Yeah,
• 1:24:57
  it was that was it was. I was fully expecting, like two o'clock
• 1:25:00
  to be uh, you know, okay, we do it. You know,
• 1:25:03
  the show will start at midnight and it'll or you know, eleven thirty
• 1:25:08
  and then uh, you know, it'll it'll be two o'clock or two thirty
• 1:25:14
  or something like that. And it's only one thirty right now. So yeah,
• 1:25:15
  only only thirty. Uh. Dave K says best part of the pressers
• 1:25:19
  and Jerry freaked out. One reporter asked a question and two follow ups when
• 1:25:23
  was when was that? Oh, Clay, you know you can get away
• 1:25:30
  with more stuff after a win. Oh yeah, yeah, than you can't
• 1:25:31
  after a loss. So it's like Hey, yeah, Jordan says mccordy.
• 1:25:40
  Being able to play toe to toe with Hartman when the lights are brightest really
• 1:25:43
  something to watch. Yeah, I mean that this is a This is a
• 1:25:47
  signature win for Kyle mccordy. No, I'm going to guess this is not
• 1:25:50
  going to be the greatest win of his entire highest career when all is said
• 1:25:54
  and done. But this is one that you want this one in your win
• 1:25:59
  column. You will this to be the national TV game. The lights are
• 1:26:02
  on everything. You know, everyone is watching. In a week filled with
• 1:26:09
  tons of great games. This is where Game Day came and this was not
• 1:26:13
  you know, normally Game Day goes you know, if if there's a question,
• 1:26:15
  game Day will go to the ESPN game because the ESPN game is they
• 1:26:18
  want to promote their own product. This is an NBC game and they came
• 1:26:21
  here anyway. This is This was like the game this week in a in
• 1:26:27
  a loaded schedule. I can't wait to see the TV numbers on this because
• 1:26:30
  these are two of the biggest ten bases in the country. Plus it's a
• 1:26:33
  great game that goes all the way down to the end, Like this could
• 1:26:36
  be one where Kevin I'm gonna throw out a let's see what is what if
• 1:26:43
  the house at Michigan game get last year twelve million, fourteen millions, I'm
• 1:26:46
  like there was a sixteen, but no, I think it was. It
• 1:26:50
  wasn't like a ten rating and like, uh it was like twelve million,
• 1:26:55
  Yeah, twelve million or something like that, which is that is just bananas?
• 1:27:00
  Uh? Rating for a college football game. I think this is going
• 1:27:03
  to be in that neighborhood. I think this this might even be higher than
• 1:27:06
  that because it's all the all the factors coming together. It just depends if
• 1:27:12
  Depenn State Iowa game and then soon enough for people to turn off that game
• 1:27:16
  and then come over to NBC for the close games. Seventeen point one million,
• 1:27:24
  seventeen point one four million for Michigan Ohio State last year. I'm gonna
• 1:27:28
  say this is in the neighborhood of fifteen million. Like this, this might
• 1:27:31
  be outside of Ohio State. Michigan the most watch game on the on the
• 1:27:34
  schedule this year. And that's I wonder where it ranks and NBC's games and
• 1:27:40
  the other thing. It didn't end too late, so it's not like you
• 1:27:43
  that was people because of how late it was and and you know, I
• 1:27:45
  will remind you that this question all started with Kyle McCord and we got derailed
• 1:27:48
  TV ratings, but you know how TV people are. This was a Sam
• 1:27:55
  Hartman kind of game from Kyle Accord, And this is a game that people
• 1:27:59
  will now recognize who Kyle blcord is rather than just knowing that he's not CJ.
• 1:28:03
  Stroud and he's Margaret Harrison's former high school class might now he what it's
• 1:28:10
  true first time hearing of this, it's it's on the internet. But now
• 1:28:14
  people know who kylelcord is rather than just the name, they know who the
• 1:28:16
  player is. Yeah. Yeah, and this is you know, I mean
• 1:28:20
  not that the quarterback question was a question anymore after the first couple of weeks
• 1:28:25
  the season, But now the quarterback question is really not a question at all.
• 1:28:28
  And that final drive, as they're getting ready to go out and Kyle
• 1:28:33
  of Chord is warming up and he's getting ready to head out into the field,
• 1:28:36
  Devin Brown stopped him. Yeah, just you know, like you've got
• 1:28:40
  this that sort of thing. And you know, I had the same thought
• 1:28:44
  this week, you know tonight, that I had last year when CJ.
• 1:28:48
  Stroud, I think Ohio State was down at Penn State like eight minutes left
• 1:28:55
  and like that, like Penn State had just going down and scored, they
• 1:28:57
  go ahead touchdown or something like that, and it was kind of like,
• 1:29:00
  all right, c J. Starrett, let's see what you got and he
• 1:29:01
  led them right down and that was the I think that was the one that
• 1:29:03
  ended with the Travian Henderson touchdown run. But it was the same thing tonight.
• 1:29:08
  It was all right, Kyle McCord, you know, five star won
• 1:29:12
  the job. Let's let's see what you got, and uh, there you
• 1:29:15
  go, and yeah, there's there is your answer. Fish ballb uh Son
• 1:29:21
  of Serak. I still think McCord needs to run. He may have averaged
• 1:29:25
  to be but he had numerous opportunities to gain a lot of chunk yarriage.
• 1:29:28
  I look at him, and I'm again, I'm down on the field,
• 1:29:32
  so I'm just kind of looking at him and how how far he's running.
• 1:29:35
  I judged by based on how long it takes, because it's just kind of
• 1:29:39
  like, I don't know, if he's running for three seconds, that's probably
• 1:29:41
  about five yards or whatever. I don't know, but he he never seems
• 1:29:46
  to get you know, here's here's the three rushes for nine yards in the
• 1:29:50
  first half. There's Kyle McCord's stats nine nine for sixteen eighty four yards in
• 1:29:56
  the first half, twenty one of thirty seven two hundred and forty or it's
• 1:30:00
  total. But he never seems to be someone who gets more than you think.
• 1:30:09
  Like every I have the I have the clock in my head and I'm
• 1:30:13
  going, Okay, this is probably like five yards and it's like two yeah,
• 1:30:15
  and it's like, oh, he got Maybe this is partly deep drops
• 1:30:19
  and so he's running further to get something like that. But he just there
• 1:30:25
  are certain quarterbacks where it's just or certain places where it's like, oh,
• 1:30:27
  that was a much longer play than I thought it was. It's always like
• 1:30:31
  calmic Cord take you know, it's third and eight. Klmic Cord takes up
• 1:30:34
  off up the middle and I'm like, oh, he probably what was it
• 1:30:39
  fourth and two? It's like, no, he got two yards, Like
• 1:30:41
  it's fourth and fourth and seven. Like what I will say, he did
• 1:30:45
  take some time to get rid of the football quite a bit. Crowd maybe
• 1:30:48
  the first half, second half, different parts of the game where you he
• 1:30:53
  just held the ball too long. And I don't know if that's that's where
• 1:30:56
  it comes into where maybe you should take off at that point. I didn't
• 1:30:59
  really see a lot of areas for him to right. I'll watch, you
• 1:31:01
  know, I look for that on the rewatch. But I will say that
• 1:31:05
  just watching it, there were some times where he just felt like he held
• 1:31:11
  the ball too long and then maybe guys weren't breaking over. There were there
• 1:31:14
  are also times where there were there were no no players were open, And
• 1:31:17
  there was one time he through one and I think it got batted down.
• 1:31:21
  And it's like it was late in the game and who he was starting to
• 1:31:26
  like the right hash and that player was covered. I don't know where that
• 1:31:29
  throw was going, but it got batted down before he could get there.
• 1:31:30
  Also probably would have been an interception. Yeah, uh Lewis Lee ten fourteen.
• 1:31:36
  Notre Dame. You two back personnel the way I thought Ohio Stable.
• 1:31:41
  We didn't really see much two back personnel from the Ohio state and this one,
• 1:31:44
  No, that was a departure because we've seen plenty of that, and
• 1:31:49
  really I didn't the power stuff that they were doing didn't work with the with
• 1:31:54
  the bison and things like that. Just I think it just congested too much.
• 1:31:58
  And this is this not an offensive line, and an offensive has been
• 1:32:01
  good with the congestion and they're trying to fix that, but it's not quite
• 1:32:09
  fixed. Even though you win a game on the goal line, so something
• 1:32:12
  you know, that's a positive, but there's still work to be done.
• 1:32:15
  Yeah, Jason says, Denzel Burke doing his best. I think, oh
• 1:32:21
  Jeff okudah impersonation and he wasn't heard from because he covered so great. He
• 1:32:27
  I mean, he's been so good this year. Who's the first team that
• 1:32:32
  they play that has like a really really good I mean, like we said,
• 1:32:36
  Western Kentucky has a good passing attack, and they do, but it's
• 1:32:40
  not you know, you don't have Marvin Harrison on the other side. Who's
• 1:32:45
  the first team that they play that as a that that that kind of a
• 1:32:48
  passing attack that's gonna be Okay, let's see Denzel Burke against Yeah, I
• 1:32:53
  mean, they've got Elliot's thinking about a law coming up in two weeks.
• 1:32:56
  But yeah, they don't have like that. Steve and I don't know that
• 1:33:00
  there is that guy in the big time on their schedule. You know,
• 1:33:05
  Roman Wilson, you know Cornelius Johnson. Is that is that when it's gonna
• 1:33:10
  be somebody emerged for Penn State that he becomes the guy. Yeah, maybe
• 1:33:15
  who's the kid they got from Kent State? Dante Cephas He's he's good.
• 1:33:20
  But I have not watched a lot of Penn State basically for the reason that
• 1:33:25
  if we didn't do it weekly Michigan show, I wouldn't be watching a lot
• 1:33:28
  of Michigan right now because Penn State is not playing a lot of competitive football
• 1:33:32
  teams. So I don't want to hear from we have like a minute of
• 1:33:36
  knowledge. Yes, let's let's hear a little bit from Ohio State defensive coordinator
• 1:33:41
  Jim Knowles. Ya handsome. Yeah, well, you know we were having
• 1:33:58
  them definitely have somefens to one sucking have you know last drive we just had
• 1:34:09
  to make some tough We had to get some guys from eyes down in the
• 1:34:14
  box. It's just the way the game was going. J J I mean,
• 1:34:18
  you know we need the guys. Thought I gotta make the big time
• 1:34:23
  to play put Jim consistation. How surprised you need to take a Yeah,
• 1:34:30
  I mean I was using and they have count when I want to jumpers,
• 1:34:39
  don't think they do so again again, a very happy. Defensive coordinator Jim
• 1:34:49
  Dolls, as we said, came off the bus to talk about his defense
• 1:34:53
  and the way they they were able to change the moment above a game.
• 1:34:58
  And any time your defense can do that, coordinator has to be happy with
• 1:35:01
  that, and it's it's a message. As he told me, it was
• 1:35:04
  toughness that allowed it to happen, and this is a team that has been
• 1:35:09
  challenged in that regard all week. That was what we've been talking about leading
• 1:35:13
  up. That's obviously what Ryan Day talked about afterwards. Jim Mills also talked
• 1:35:15
  about he likes seeing Ryan Day like that. That kind of I think everybody
• 1:35:21
  wants to see their head coach that fired up. Yeah, yeah, we
• 1:35:25
  all saw it. Yeah, And you know you want you want the boss
• 1:35:28
  to be happy. Because the boss is happy, then you know, if
• 1:35:30
  mom ain't happy, ain't nobody happy. It's kind of that's kind of how
• 1:35:32
  a football team works too. But the boss is happy. Like random half
• 1:35:35
  day Friday. Yeah, yeah, Mike says, I noticed Cody Simon playing
• 1:35:40
  in play some Chambers in the last noted name Drive was Chambers hurt. I
• 1:35:43
  don't think he was hurt. They just they were I mean Cody Simon played
• 1:35:47
  a more tonight than I had seen him play really well. He played like
• 1:35:51
  he played in the first half too. I think I think he's just sort
• 1:35:55
  of earned a bigger role. Well, Cody Simon was coming in at times
• 1:35:58
  for Davis Nigga Nos and because the day was going heavy. I didn't I
• 1:36:02
  missed that that he if he was coming in for Steel Chambers. I know,
• 1:36:06
  I saw some people saying Steel Chambers is not having a very good game.
• 1:36:10
  It's another thing we'll have to go back and rewatch to see. But
• 1:36:14
  if he replaced Steel in there, and and I don't you know what you're
• 1:36:16
  saying he did, that's that may have just been a hey, you need
• 1:36:19
  somebody to go make some plays, and because he was definitely out there for
• 1:36:24
  with with Steel at times. But you can't you know, you're not worried
• 1:36:28
  about anybody's feelings. Steve Jackles, Yeah, you gotta win the game job.
• 1:36:31
  Wanted to win the game job, and there really is no job too
• 1:36:34
  in that kind of situation. What happened to Mine and Williams in this game?
• 1:36:38
  Did Mine lings playing? Uh? He got out there at one plate.
• 1:36:43
  I think maybe in the power package the Mastodon backage, has Kevin called
• 1:36:47
  it with it was chipped the the fullback and I don't know Kad Curry he
• 1:36:53
  got out there, but yet one carry no yards. Yeah, and as
• 1:36:57
  I've said before about my head, his role has been greatly reduced. But
• 1:37:00
  anytime I see him, he's got a huge smile on his face. He's
• 1:37:02
  supporting everybody. This is a guy that could probably be regressing for a thousand
• 1:37:06
  yards many other places. Yeah, and it's not happening here. But he's,
• 1:37:12
  like I said, he's always Joe. Whatever he's he can, he's
• 1:37:15
  he's as as Urban Meyer would say. He's an energy giver, not an
• 1:37:19
  energy taker. Yeah, and we're coming up on three hours right now.
• 1:37:21
  We're gonna keep going as long as we're We could go forever obviously, Uh,
• 1:37:28
  we at some point are going to run out of camera of computer batteries,
• 1:37:30
  which will be the the hard out of the show. So we'll try
• 1:37:33
  wrapping before that. But we've if you guys have questions, please throw some
• 1:37:38
  more questions in there. Thank you. We have do we uh when they
• 1:37:41
  send it down to my friend in South Florida, do we have photos we
• 1:37:45
  can go through? Because there were some boy howdy, where there's some moments
• 1:37:46
  in this game? Now are these photos that count or photos that don't?
• 1:37:50
  Call? A little? A little of each? We'll see we can pull
• 1:37:55
  those here we go. So yeah, this this was That was at the
• 1:37:58
  end of the game, after the after the touchdown by Chip train Hum.
• 1:38:03
  That's Jaden Ballard and col McCord going up jumping. Can I say Jade Ballard
• 1:38:10
  also another energy giver. Like he didn't play. We didn't really see him
• 1:38:14
  out there, but after the game he's one of the happiest guys on the
• 1:38:17
  field. As uh, some of the Buckeys are coming off the field.
• 1:38:20
  I forget who all was carrying the Ohio against the World flag, but I've
• 1:38:26
  got a video of it. We'll eventually show it you at some point in
• 1:38:29
  the next week. This is the winning touchdown. You can see Chip Frayum
• 1:38:32
  on the ground there on the on the right hand side. But I mean,
• 1:38:38
  you look at that. That's Kid Stover, I think, yeah,
• 1:38:41
  driving his guy into the back of the end zone. I've heard you get
• 1:38:45
  talk though they I mean, look at that they've got. I guess it's
• 1:38:47
  less remarkable how they have the left side of the line sealed off because Wow,
• 1:38:53
  Tony, it's like, there's not a Notre Dame guy there. Theories
• 1:38:57
  on woy that might be that? Yeah, that that was that was being
• 1:39:03
  that close to that play. It was just as that play was setting up,
• 1:39:08
  it was like, man, this one play is going to determine a
• 1:39:13
  massive narrative swing about both of these teams. That Ohio State its offten can't
• 1:39:18
  can't you know, loses these games in exactly the same way every time or
• 1:39:25
  Ohio State has shown its medal and and it's like the difference there is eighteen
• 1:39:30
  inches or whatever it is that I think that kind of goes a little bit
• 1:39:33
  to show that, you know that the the far ends of the spectrum are
• 1:39:38
  probably not good places to be living there. You know, it's this was
• 1:39:42
  this was a this was an impressive win for Ohio State. It was a
• 1:39:45
  foot and a half from being an impressive win for Notre Dame. I mean
• 1:39:48
  that was that was a really really good foot Do you think Notre Dame puts
• 1:39:53
  an eleventh guy out there? If there were eleven commandments they have of statue
• 1:40:00
  on the next to the library called first Down Moses. I was over there
• 1:40:06
  today. I was only kind of ten. Still ten. Here's here's here's
• 1:40:11
  j T two moloil. This was the one. This was the sack on
• 1:40:16
  on Sam Hartman. This is I think this was the play where he first
• 1:40:23
  it was like a read and first he hit the running back and Hartman pulled
• 1:40:26
  the ball and then he hit hard and it was like it was like when
• 1:40:30
  Sam Hubbard. It was like, yeah, it was like Sam Hubbard tackling
• 1:40:32
  ghost guys, Sam Hubbard tackling both both the was it was that it was
• 1:40:41
  Tracer Soorley and what's Yeah. You know I've been saying like you just need
• 1:40:47
  a Sam Hubbard or a take that was the same Hubard play. Yeah,
• 1:40:50
  yeah, absolutely, yeah. Uh this was Xavier Johnson Zavie Johnson picking up.
• 1:40:57
  That was just an absolutely massive play. And again this is one that
• 1:41:00
  just they didn't end up scoring on that drive, so it just gets completely
• 1:41:03
  forgotten. But at the time it was like, this is an unbelievable,
• 1:41:08
  like the play of the season because he extended this drive when they absolutely desperately
• 1:41:13
  needed to score. And second year to rose, Avie Johnson just just you
• 1:41:16
  know, he doesn't put up massive numbers, but it's just come you know,
• 1:41:20
  he's like a pincher. He comes off the bench, knocks one of
• 1:41:23
  the upper deck and then he's so effective against Irish you could call him the
• 1:41:26
  potato famine. You go to grown, You got anybody grown here? It's
• 1:41:31
  two in the morning. This is the this is the last one, U.
• 1:41:35
  This is the last play of the game. This is I think this
• 1:41:39
  was after the ball had gotten back to Sam Hartman at the very end and
• 1:41:44
  J T. Timloao and I think that's Jack Sawyer behind him taking Sam Hartman
• 1:41:50
  down. I think he tried to fling it forward again or something like that.
• 1:41:55
  Do you think that kickoff was out of bounds on purpose? I think
• 1:41:59
  the smart play there is to hit the guy in the face mask. Remember
• 1:42:02
  you remember a couple of years ago, like a ball state or someone you
• 1:42:06
  kick You just kick line drive and you try and hit the up man and
• 1:42:10
  you kick it so hard that they can't catch it. Hit him in the
• 1:42:13
  chest. You don't have to him in the face mask, but hit him
• 1:42:15
  in the chest. And then the ball just dropped and then they don't have
• 1:42:18
  you. You can't set up a return. It just kicked the ball directly
• 1:42:23
  into the person. That that's what I was, you know, I am
• 1:42:26
  not a professional kicker, so it can't maybe maybe maybe that's not as easy.
• 1:42:31
  That's what I was sort of expecting to do, and they kind of
• 1:42:33
  did that, but it sort of screwed out of bounce. To me,
• 1:42:38
  watching it is like that was like watching it happens, like that's the worst
• 1:42:42
  thing that could happen. I'm talking with our guy Andy Andrews from eleven Warriors,
• 1:42:45
  like, actually, now that now Notre Dame's gonna get the ball to
• 1:42:47
  thirty five and ohire Stake is set up a defense, so definitely, so
• 1:42:51
  I yeah, because I sure looked like he just kicked it almost directly out
• 1:42:56
  of bounce. Yeah, well, I mean you could kick it. You
• 1:43:00
  could kick it into you know, can he kick it through the back of
• 1:43:01
  the end zone. If you can kick it the back of the endzone,
• 1:43:03
  kick it through the back of the en zone and then you get fifteen more
• 1:43:05
  yards you got again, Well he hasn't this season. Yeah, you know,
• 1:43:09
  they I don't know that they've tried, or maybe they haven't tried because
• 1:43:12
  it doesn't work that way for them. My favorite part of the Dave Case
• 1:43:15
  is my favorite part of the show, Tom Show and Tell. His ego
• 1:43:18
  nos, no balance. He show me to Tony on the bold predictions.
• 1:43:23
  Thank you. I I want to thank everybody who has reached out to me,
• 1:43:29
  the emails, the direct messages, the Facebook messages, the letters,
• 1:43:35
  the bold arrangements. I appreciate it. I'm doing okay. I have a
• 1:43:42
  ton of support from my family, my loved ones, from Kevin, from
• 1:43:46
  my friends. So it is okay, Like this is this is just four
• 1:43:54
  long months out of the year. There are eight other months where I don't
• 1:43:58
  even think about him. So I'm doing okay. Uh there's therapy, there's
• 1:44:03
  water. Therapy is tremendous. Uh. So I'm okay. Thank you for
• 1:44:08
  the concern. You are correct. Every single one of you has reached out
• 1:44:13
  and since your your thoughts, your prayers, you are you are all correct.
• 1:44:17
  But I am strong. I will remain strong. I will not falter.
• 1:44:23
  I will not waiver. Thank you. I am tuning it. You
• 1:44:27
  hear me. That's the second best rant I've heard tonight. Jackie Hale says,
• 1:44:33
  how does Kevin put up with these two? Well, well, he
• 1:44:38
  needs someone needs to carry him. But Jones says, potato famine. Butch,
• 1:44:45
  you're just encouraging. Please do not do that thank you. That's like,
• 1:44:48
  that's like getting a kremlin wet. Just don't do that. Don't do
• 1:44:53
  that. Don't do that. No, I do need to be fed after
• 1:44:55
  midnight. Let's see going through it. Yeah, well I was just gonna
• 1:45:02
  skip this one, he said, which says it's time to shut it down.
• 1:45:04
  I'm almost last called frock cahol. It is shoot one forty nine am
• 1:45:08
  here. We've only been going you and I you have it for like an
• 1:45:11
  hour and fifty. Yeah, well, we'll keep we'll keep going a little.
• 1:45:15
  Well, we want to get through all these questions. There's and you
• 1:45:18
  know you guys are you guys are staying up with us? We want to
• 1:45:20
  stay up with you. We won't be back here again until the Big ten
• 1:45:24
  joins the or the Notre Dame joins the Big ten next year. So yeah,
• 1:45:27
  it's two years. Yeah, and uh, well, I'll just throw
• 1:45:30
  this out here. I made a decision before we even started. Normally we
• 1:45:33
  will record the uh morning show after the this live show. It's like we're
• 1:45:39
  gonna go way low and on this one, this is gonna be a bonus
• 1:45:43
  episode on the morning show. You're gonna get two hours of two hours of
• 1:45:45
  morning shows. The most accurate show you've ever done. This. This is
• 1:45:49
  this the morning show for Monday now because it's tom one until Maryland. Uh,
• 1:45:54
  sixty no, thirteen days, thirteen days till Maryland. Twelve No,
• 1:45:59
  thirteen days to Maryland. And hang on, I can do this. I
• 1:46:02
  can do this. I probably can't. You really help me out, if
• 1:46:06
  you could do something, make some conversation Tony. Six days until Michigan,
• 1:46:11
  sixty two days until the Michigan game. It's pretty good. Sorry, sorry,
• 1:46:15
  sorry the game against Michigan. Uh Diggs buck Eye says, my nine
• 1:46:19
  year old son is still up with me watching this live show, praying his
• 1:46:21
  dad comes out on the comes on the out on the mansions. Well,
• 1:46:25
  there you go. There we are Tony making dreams come true. Thank you
• 1:46:29
  very much, Diggs buck Guys for watching the show and raising your child properly.
• 1:46:36
  That's the most important part. Part. Fantastic game to watch with your
• 1:46:41
  kids or anybody's kids. Yeah, boy, I can I can only imagine
• 1:46:47
  the thoughts that were being expressed verbally at various times during that game in variously
• 1:46:54
  to watch with your care on the state of Ohio. Holy Moses, that
• 1:46:57
  was because I'm pretty unemotional about games other than like, wow, this is
• 1:47:02
  a really good game, and it was you know, even even just the
• 1:47:06
  wow this was a good game, was like, this is a really good
• 1:47:11
  game. This is a really exciting game. Yeah, down on the field
• 1:47:15
  afterwards, just you know, it was probably the best game I've seen since
• 1:47:19
  Michigan twenty sixteen. And the they played a pretty good one in Atlanta,
• 1:47:25
  well that was the other thing. And then also the clips of game in
• 1:47:30
  twenty twenty with very people that was that was that wasn't as competitive, no,
• 1:47:35
  no, no, but that was a it was cathartic. It was
• 1:47:39
  that was that was very much. That Clemson game was uh yeah, one
• 1:47:45
  of those, like the fan base of Ohio State really needed this at this
• 1:47:49
  moment. Another loss here would have been especially especially Clemson, and then you
• 1:47:55
  know, another loss and loss tonight against this type of team. It's just
• 1:48:01
  if you know, if they had lost this game, how much are we
• 1:48:04
  hearing about? Well, this just proves they won't beat Michigan this year.
• 1:48:06
  So this is already just Tony just forget it. They might as well cancel
• 1:48:11
  the rest of the season, shut it down. I can hear John Tapper,
• 1:48:14
  I can hear. I can hear Gordon Ramsey shut it down, and
• 1:48:18
  you can call him showing up in the postgame room shut it down, you
• 1:48:23
  donkey. I was just gonna say, I can just picture the different I'm
• 1:48:27
  scoring and not scoring. Is the difference between oh dear, oh precious,
• 1:48:30
  oh gorgeous and you donkey you yeah, oh yeah boy. This season a
• 1:48:42
  season saved. I think it terms up the fans eyes. Just imagine you're
• 1:48:48
  you wouldn't be watching this right now. We get anger, we get anger
• 1:48:53
  watched. People would be watching. Yeah, you guys wouldn't be watching.
• 1:48:57
  Other people would be watched. Michael Campbell would Michael A lot of Notre Dame
• 1:49:00
  fans on the Live Street. Yeah, but take Ted because they can't tip
• 1:49:04
  eleven and you say I'm the main one, say folks, Uh, but
• 1:49:14
  Jon says, folks, Let's drop a bunch of likes. Now. The
• 1:49:15
  fellas are going the extra light year for us. Let your measure of distance
• 1:49:19
  not time. A parsak, thank you, Big Chevy says I'm still trying
• 1:49:27
  to come down from the adrenaline rush. What a game that I mean that
• 1:49:30
  was the end of that game was one of the most intense sequences where it
• 1:49:39
  just was like, oh, man, like are they gonna do this?
• 1:49:43
  Like all because because it was the drive started and it was like they're either
• 1:49:47
  gonna win this game or they're gonna like turn it over on the first play,
• 1:49:51
  like it was gonna be one of those two. And then they kept
• 1:49:55
  going down but they weren't doing it the easy way. It was just it
• 1:49:59
  felt like it was third and ten every other play. It's like, that's
• 1:50:01
  not even possible. How was it? This isn't mathematically possible, and too
• 1:50:04
  early in the game. Earlier in the game you get stuffed on fourth and
• 1:50:09
  goal at the one and then have it come down to that at the other
• 1:50:13
  end of the game. It was it was an entire season in one game.
• 1:50:15
  It was two very different seasons in one game. Two very different seasons
• 1:50:20
  and one fourth quarter. This is one that you will remember for a while
• 1:50:25
  and it will take a while to come down. And it's very good and
• 1:50:28
  I Alwaystad has a bye week that they don't have to worry about. Hey,
• 1:50:30
  let's we're moving on from this. Let's forget this. It's like I
• 1:50:32
  can't forget it. I'm still watching for the indoor. Yeah, that's gonna
• 1:50:38
  be one that. I mean, we go through other like great regular season
• 1:50:44
  games, not you know, like okay, I compared this to the nineteen
• 1:50:46
  ninety seven Rose Bowl earlier. Yeah, it's like that, but that's the
• 1:50:50
  Rose Bowl and that was number two versus number four or whatever it was.
• 1:50:56
  This is I mean for a regular season non conference game. How many?
• 1:51:00
  I mean, like the Texas game in two thousand and five or the USC
• 1:51:05
  game in two thousand and nine, like those are the like truly classic ones.
• 1:51:13
  Buckays came up short on both of those. It has been I'm struggling
• 1:51:18
  to think of a like really close, dramatic, late final minute kind of
• 1:51:25
  game, non conference regular season game that they've won because they don't. They
• 1:51:31
  don't play that made. And the two thousand and six Texas game they were
• 1:51:35
  it was, it was comfortable enough that it wasn't necessarily any danger. They
• 1:51:42
  were so much than the skill that they had made that better the in terms
• 1:51:45
  of a conference game. The big comeback against Penn State, yeah in twenty
• 1:51:50
  seven seen, and then the next week they'll go to Iowa, Iowa.
• 1:51:54
  That's why having a week off is a very good thing following a win.
• 1:51:59
  My yeah, and you know, I think it's funny you look at the
• 1:52:01
  schedule before the season and it's like, that's too early to have a week
• 1:52:04
  off, because then then you have to then you have to play the whole
• 1:52:10
  you know, I'm now not remembering the exact order of the schedule of who
• 1:52:14
  do they play the week after Penn State because you know after watching that that
• 1:52:18
  Wisconsin that might be Wisconsin. Wisconsin is the twenty eighth. Yes, so
• 1:52:26
  road trip to Wisconsin on the twenty eighth, Rick Tony Ready, that's I
• 1:52:34
  mean, are you say Wisconsin's not Wisconsin's not fantastic Right now? They very
• 1:52:41
  much look like a year one new system. But like the week after,
• 1:52:45
  I mean, if the Penn State game is anything like this, win or
• 1:52:48
  lose, that's going to be a top that's never an easy place, That's
• 1:52:51
  what. That's a game where they are going to Ron Tander Mordecai is he
• 1:52:57
  is I think a notch below Sam Hartman. So so I would say the
• 1:53:00
  receivers probably notch below or similar to what Notre Dame has, but that running
• 1:53:05
  game, although they did look like they lost Chez Lucy maybe for the year
• 1:53:09
  he had a Yeah, so that that's that's too tough. But you know,
• 1:53:13
  Braylon Allen obviously still very good. But Tom, we got, we
• 1:53:17
  got, We'll get there. You don't need to be rushing us through on
• 1:53:21
  the Halloween all right. Super chat from Isaac McIntyre. Ryan days postgame passionate
• 1:53:26
  interviews are almost as passionate as Tony's brands about Tom and the bold prediction shows
• 1:53:30
  you know what it's just uh it comes, Ryan Day getting appreciates getting lumped
• 1:53:35
  in with your nonsense. Yeah, of course, who would look, I've
• 1:53:42
  got enough nonsense for a lot of people. There's a lot of lamps.
• 1:53:45
  Tom Ultrue, like Smith, Hi State won a game with basically the last
• 1:53:53
  play from scrimmage while being on offense. Oh, I'm I'm gonna say.
• 1:53:58
  I'm gonna say Bobby Olive touchdown against Iowa in nineteen ninety and I'm gonna make
• 1:54:02
  you make you make get me one more recent than that. The the the
• 1:54:10
  letter, basically the last play for anybody on offense is what you're saying.
• 1:54:14
  I mean this technic and you know, we know how you love your technicalities.
• 1:54:18
  Because this was as much David Boston scoring against Arizona State the Rose Bowl
• 1:54:24
  as you know, but no, that's uh not counting a kick played from
• 1:54:28
  scrimmage. That's a that's a good research project. Yeah, that's a good
• 1:54:35
  question, great question. Sorry, we don't have an answer, although the
• 1:54:39
  Bobby Olive is like the first one that Yeah, what about Purdue? That
• 1:54:45
  was a title any overtime win, well, any overtime win a lot of
• 1:54:48
  times, Curtis Samuel. Yet Curtis Samuel, Yeah, thank you. I
• 1:54:54
  would tell me what I would turn the Purdue uh, the Purdue tooth as
• 1:55:00
  in twelve it was wasn't the Hireman one? Was that the game? Yeah,
• 1:55:06
  but I was I was thinking regulation and then he didn't say regulation in
• 1:55:10
  here. But yeah, that's a good question. We still need to figure
• 1:55:12
  that, find that one out. It maybe it may very well might.
• 1:55:16
  Yeah, we might have to move. Ye. No, that guys Scott
• 1:55:21
  like they that's that one. That's us over there. Yeah, the other
• 1:55:25
  one were fine. We're we're having we're having a production meeting on air right
• 1:55:30
  now. We borrowed a recycling can to set my laptop on so we could
• 1:55:32
  actually see what's going on in the screen and read the questions. Hey,
• 1:55:35
  when you kick us out of the stadium. An hour after the game.
• 1:55:38
  We have to improvise. Yeah, yeah, Glassming Butterfly says, good night,
• 1:55:43
  John Boy, good night, Mary Ellen go Bush, good morning.
• 1:55:47
  Thank you classling, Butterfly. We appreciate you joining us always. I want
• 1:55:53
  to thank everybody. First day late as you have. It's it's two o'clock
• 1:55:56
  here. I don't know what time. It doesn't Ohio Uptown, Daniel says.
• 1:56:00
  Name the last Ohio State quarterback with that much poise to win in the
• 1:56:03
  last minute game against the top ten teams. I mean c J. Stroud
• 1:56:06
  against Utah. I mean that was, yeah, the pinnacle of quarterback plant
• 1:56:11
  Ohio State. Some of the spurs that he made, but yeah, and
• 1:56:13
  I think you mentioned one of CJ. Strout, you know, went went
• 1:56:15
  down the field against Penn State maybe, but this was this was a rarity
• 1:56:20
  on the road here, Uh, with everything going against you, and to
• 1:56:28
  start out, it's like a guy who hits home run on an oh to
• 1:56:31
  count, you know, like they were owing two a lot on this drive,
• 1:56:34
  yeah, and on that last drive and they still just you know,
• 1:56:38
  filed a couple off and then you know, you get an extra base hit
• 1:56:41
  on fourth down and there you go. You you were mentioned metaphors like crazy
• 1:56:46
  right now two o'clock in the more demand. That's what we do here.
• 1:56:49
  Dig's Bucky says, by the way, Bucket had all live in California,
• 1:56:53
  So it's only about eleven pm here, so not that bad of a time
• 1:56:56
  for not your Odia wakes. Don't know. Listen, this is this is
• 1:56:59
  a judge in free zone. It's a Saturday night. You don't have that
• 1:57:01
  many you know, games like this. My apologies, yes, or relaying
• 1:57:04
  which time it is here and not thinking about how early it is there for
• 1:57:10
  you and your family. Thank you for watching as early as it is.
• 1:57:14
  One of your kids are still out. Yeah, this is this was a
• 1:57:20
  This was a you know, one to grow on kind of win, I
• 1:57:24
  think for Ohio State where you get the win, big win, big narratively
• 1:57:30
  for you. But man, there's there's a lot to learn from him this.
• 1:57:33
  There's a lot to improve on from this. I still would love to
• 1:57:39
  see Ohio State run at quarterback Snake. That would be just an interview too
• 1:57:44
  much. I mean I know that no, not that making the trick plays,
• 1:57:46
  but like you could do that on third and one ones in it would
• 1:57:50
  it wouldn't kill anyone and if you don't just go to the wild mixing some
• 1:57:54
  wildcast start practicing that. Yeah, I mean, honestly, if you're not
• 1:57:58
  willing to do it. If Kate and Curry, the absolute baller move would
• 1:58:02
  have been to league Kaden Curry out into the flat and throw it to him
• 1:58:06
  as a just throw a look and if it works, you're the smartest person
• 1:58:11
  on Earth, and if it does not work, you're the dumbest person on
• 1:58:15
  Earth who's throwing it to a defensive end in the red zone. That was
• 1:58:18
  that would have I mean, it's it is a high risk, high reward
• 1:58:24
  call, play call, but Tony, I love the game. Both of
• 1:58:27
  other people's ships as a former high stat coach, just depends on how effective
• 1:58:30
  it was in practice and if you rent it all in practice. Yeah,
• 1:58:33
  we're trying to hold on for a post to come up. Okay, okay,
• 1:58:39
  so we are working on we're I mean to use a technical TV term,
• 1:58:43
  efforting, we're efforting the Marcus Freeman post game. That will be uh,
• 1:58:48
  that will be uh. It'suainly there's some interesting stuff to come out of
• 1:58:51
  that as well. And this is a post game is real fun for us
• 1:58:56
  because we're generally all running around in three different directions and no one has actually
• 1:59:00
  seen or heard everything. So it's kind of this has to be one of
• 1:59:03
  those games that we talked about covering Ohio State when they lose games that they
• 1:59:08
  could have won seven different ways, and they found a way each time to
• 1:59:11
  lose in those seven different ways. This is one of those games for North
• 1:59:15
  for Notre Dame where they could have won it many different ways. Yeah,
• 1:59:17
  and they didn't win it in any of them. Yeah. Yeah, that
• 1:59:20
  that This is one that's gonna sting for Notre Dame for a while because this
• 1:59:24
  was this was you were you were about there that that this is. This
• 1:59:30
  is you know, not quite the Ohio State Georgia Peach Bowl where the ring
• 1:59:34
  is right there and you've got it and it slips from your grass. It
• 1:59:38
  wasn't quite that because it's you know, regular season game and not you're about
• 1:59:42
  to get a get into the national championship game where you have a buy against
• 1:59:46
  TCU. So it's not quite the same. But I mean just just the
• 1:59:53
  probably somewhat encouraging in how well they played, how competitive they were with a
• 1:59:58
  team that they have not you know, Ohio State most time. Is this
• 2:00:01
  the first time they've been within one score of Ohio State since they won in
• 2:00:10
  nineteen thirty six. I think it is because it was forty five twenty six.
• 2:00:13
  In nineteen ninety five, twenty nine, thirteen, and ninety six they
• 2:00:16
  won by thirty four twenty. In the Fiesta Bowl. In two thousand and
• 2:00:20
  five they won by double digits. I think in the Fiesta Bowl in fifteen
• 2:00:25
  they won by eleven. Last year, I think this is the first time
• 2:00:28
  Notre Dames kept it within one score of Ohio State since nineteen thirty six.
• 2:00:32
  So I mean, in a way, yes, that's good. I'm guessing
• 2:00:35
  it's not a celebratory vibe inside the football facility right now. But you know,
• 2:00:43
  this is this is we said earlier in the week, if Notre Dame
• 2:00:46
  was going to get over the hump against in Ohio State caliberty, this is
• 2:00:49
  the year you would do it because you have a Sam Hartman, you have
• 2:00:53
  a veteran defense. It's the second year from Marcus Hartman, Marcus Freeman,
• 2:00:59
  kind of second year from Marcus Freeman. And you know, how often do
• 2:01:01
  you see the second year coach really take that big step and you know,
• 2:01:05
  win national championship really are being in that conversation. It was all there and
• 2:01:12
  they just just they played. They played hard, they played like I want
• 2:01:19
  to say, they played well. There was a lot there was, you
• 2:01:21
  know, there's stuff they didn't do well. But I think holding Ohio States
• 2:01:25
  or seventeen points is doing pretty well. And I do think there are still
• 2:01:29
  some questions about Ohio States abilities you run the ball, although if you have
• 2:01:32
  Trevia Henderson enough opportunities, he will make those numbers look better. With one
• 2:01:38
  over yep. Yeah, And you know this is also two defenses that came
• 2:01:44
  into this game, you know, ranked one two and some advanced stats and
• 2:01:47
  three and four and another one and they this looked like two teams that had
• 2:01:55
  top defenses like this is those were two really good defense So all right,
• 2:02:00
  so we are now good to go with Marcus Freeman, the Notre Dame head
• 2:02:04
  coach. There were some interesting stuff that we have sort of heard indirectly about
• 2:02:09
  here, but we're gonna let you take a take a listen to Marcus for
• 2:02:13
  your one question and we'll pass you the microphone. I'll hand it over to
• 2:02:15
  coach. You know, obviously, as I just told, a team disappointing
• 2:02:23
  had a lot of opportunities to win that game, and then we did it.
• 2:02:27
  Credit to them for continue to battle back and be resilient when we went
• 2:02:31
  up and you know, we gotta we gotta finish that game. And uh
• 2:02:35
  tough loss. But but as I told that the group of guys, man,
• 2:02:40
  we gotta we got a good football team, and at times we showed
• 2:02:43
  it today versus a really good football team. And so, you know,
• 2:02:47
  to be on the losing side, it's it hurts, stinks, but we
• 2:02:50
  gotta own it and we gotta learn from it, and we gotta get back
• 2:02:55
  to work on as coach as tomorrow and as a team on Monday and use
• 2:03:00
  the pain of of of a loss to really help us find a way to
• 2:03:03
  get better, you know. And uh so I told them we're always chasing
• 2:03:08
  reaching our full potential every Saturday, and there was at times today we didn't
• 2:03:12
  do that, and we got to figure out why and and make sure that
• 2:03:15
  we attack it and and and don't let it happen, you know. And
• 2:03:18
  so you know, it's disappointing. It is, it is, it is,
• 2:03:24
  and and we are disappointed, but we got to move forward. We
• 2:03:27
  have to move forward because we gotta get ready for our good duke team next
• 2:03:30
  week. So with that, I'll open up for questions. We'll start second
• 2:03:34
  row on your left, Tyler James Marcus. On that third and nineteen play
• 2:03:40
  where they get down to the one yard lane, what was the plan there?
• 2:03:42
  What went wrong that allowed them to get the first down? Yeah,
• 2:03:45
  we wanted to play coverage, you know, and and uh, you know,
• 2:03:48
  we thought we were gonna be able to kind of give him a different
• 2:03:51
  look and play some quarters and through a good ball man. He threw a
• 2:03:57
  really good ball that last year's We're trying to kind of mix it up a
• 2:04:00
  little bit with a young quarterback and not just play man every play and you
• 2:04:03
  end up putting it in a tight window and h they made a play.
• 2:04:08
  Was there an emphasis to try to tackle them short of the first down so
• 2:04:11
  they can't run another play or was that? Uh? I don't know if
• 2:04:14
  there was, it was an emphasis not to let them catch the ball and
• 2:04:16
  get a first down. Okay, down in front on your right, John
• 2:04:20
  Bryce, because you just said a moment ago, you got to use the
• 2:04:25
  pain of this loss and try to learn and benefit from But then you're also
• 2:04:28
  very much about one play, one live, living the moment, So,
• 2:04:30
  so how do you balance that? How do you not let that pain linger?
• 2:04:33
  Yeah, I mean it's it's it's natural, it's natural feelings that you're
• 2:04:38
  gonna have it. We're all disappointed, you know, and at some point
• 2:04:42
  you gotta get ready to move on to the next game. Obviously it's not
• 2:04:45
  gonna be tonight. You know, you want to go and watch it and
• 2:04:47
  learn from it. And we have to use we use every game to make
• 2:04:51
  us better, but specifically this one, right, how do you find a
• 2:04:55
  way to make your team better through a difficult loss? And we'll do that.
• 2:05:00
  We'll do that, I know, I know our coaches and our players
• 2:05:02
  will and then you're your last time. You can tell how devastating a loss
• 2:05:09
  is by the number of times the coach goes through their head like that and
• 2:05:13
  just just trying to figure it out. That's like the only way to figure
• 2:05:16
  it out is by putting your hand on your head. It's like, that's
• 2:05:20
  that is painful to watch. That is a guy who this is not going
• 2:05:25
  to be one that they get over at any point. That's why I guess
• 2:05:28
  you're you know you're not gonna get over it. That's why you're saying we've
• 2:05:30
  got to use this, We've got to use this pain. Yeah, and
• 2:05:32
  you know this is this is that had a chance to be his like signature
• 2:05:35
  win head coach and to miss it by that much in that way, and
• 2:05:41
  then you know, next year, Sam Hartman is gone. Next year,
• 2:05:45
  ten out of year eleven starters are on defense our seniors or grad students.
• 2:05:48
  So I'm going to guess virtually all of them are gone, like you are
• 2:05:51
  taking a step back probably next year and with the transfer portal, you never
• 2:05:56
  know. But Tyler, Yeah, that's a anything get in Alabama quarterback you
• 2:06:01
  you know you you know this. It felt like this was their chance,
• 2:06:09
  this was their moment, and to have it and then miss and then lose
• 2:06:14
  it, it's that's that is rough. And you know this is this is
• 2:06:18
  a teachable moment for Marcus Freeman. I'm guessing as well, he'll have some
• 2:06:24
  some good wins in his time. He's a very young head coach. These
• 2:06:27
  are ones that they leave the scars that build the character and all of those
• 2:06:30
  good things that people like to say. But I think we're gonna go ahead
• 2:06:32
  and wrap up. Cannot thank you all, thank you for the super chats.
• 2:06:38
  Thank you for the regular chats, just to tune in for as long
• 2:06:40
  as you have, for staying as long as you have, and hopefully we've
• 2:06:43
  been able to just allow you to come down a little bit while also raising
• 2:06:47
  you up, lifting you up as well. So thank you for tuning in
• 2:06:50
  time. I didn't tune in. I you've been here. I have been
• 2:06:55
  here. Did you get here? Yeah? No, We do do appreciate
• 2:06:57
  you guys sticking up with us, and we're obviously you're planning to continue doing
• 2:07:00
  these after all these games. We can't promise every one of these games will
• 2:07:02
  be this exciting. We'll do our best to make the postgame as entertaining as
• 2:07:08
  possible. We have Kevin obviously behind the camera. We have Matt down in
• 2:07:13
  Florida making all the trains run on time and getting all the fun different stuff
• 2:07:16
  together, the graphics and the photos and all that stuff together for you.
• 2:07:19
  And then Garrett and Mark and Devin who carried ably carried through the first hour
• 2:07:28
  or so was we were running around Notre Dame Stadium trying to figure out what
• 2:07:30
  the heck was going on, where things were and all that kind of stuff.
• 2:07:33
  So but we obviously we can't do this uh, we could. We
• 2:07:38
  could do this without the viewers, Tony, but it would really be kind
• 2:07:41
  of point with Yeah, that's that's basically just be our Drive Hall. That's
• 2:07:44
  the show that we do without the viewers. You should check that one out.
• 2:07:47
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