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- 0:00Speaker 1: I mean, if they could lock him up, that would
- 0:02Speaker 1: be a pre World Series type for aid in Baltimore
- 0:06Speaker 1: knowing they have this kid for many years to come.
- 0:18Speaker 2: All right, here's what we want to cover with Baltimore.
- 0:21Speaker 2: Let's start with the starting staff. They lost Corbin Burns.
- 0:28Speaker 2: They made major waves last year when they picked up
- 0:31Speaker 2: Burns via trade with the Brewers, but Burns is gone.
- 0:35Speaker 2: He goes to Arizona, Charlie Morton and Chicano on the
- 0:39Speaker 2: back end of that rotation. Winning in October. The O's
- 0:42Speaker 2: haven't won a playoff game since twenty fourteen. That needs
- 0:46Speaker 2: to change. In twenty twenty five there in their winning window,
- 0:49Speaker 2: and that was after that really really rough tank job
- 0:52Speaker 2: that we saw for a long period of time. Show
- 0:55Speaker 2: Gunner Henderson the money right now while you still can.
- 1:01Speaker 2: Baltimore has new ownership. They said that no finances are
- 1:04Speaker 2: going to hold them back, so that Bobby Wood junior
- 1:06Speaker 2: deal would be a nice little comp something to think about.
- 1:09Speaker 2: And also for Baltimore. Yeah, there it is. Yes, winning
- 1:15Speaker 2: in October, and happy Holidays too, Jackson Holiday. How will
- 1:19Speaker 2: the former number one overall pick performing in sophomore season
- 1:22Speaker 2: after an up and down rookie campaign. He's very very young.
- 1:27Speaker 2: So let's go over all this right now. We're going
- 1:30Speaker 2: to bring in our guest making his FT debut, Steve Moleski.
- 1:34Speaker 2: You can follow him at Steve on Baseball Covers the
- 1:36Speaker 2: Ools for a long time. As I mentioned, Steve, great
- 1:38Speaker 2: to have you on. I'm going to go right to
- 1:40Speaker 2: Baz and this is the big question. Is the starting
- 1:44Speaker 2: rotation good enough to be a division title contender and
- 1:48Speaker 2: really a World Series contender because they're right in the
- 1:50Speaker 2: thick of their winning window and they lost Corbin Burns.
- 1:52Speaker 1: What do you think, Well, there are a few ifs there,
- 1:57Speaker 1: as I think people know. I think one way the
- 2:00Speaker 1: Oriols would look at this. Scott is zach Effln was
- 2:04Speaker 1: really good in his nine Oriel starts sub three era.
- 2:09Speaker 1: Grayson Rodriguez in his last let's say, thirty three starts
- 2:12Speaker 1: after he came back, he got to the majors, really struggled,
- 2:17Speaker 1: went back to Triple A in the thirty three starts.
- 2:20Speaker 1: Since he has been back in the big leagues, his
- 2:22Speaker 1: era is three thirty five. His whip is like one
- 2:25Speaker 1: point fifteen, and I mean those stats are not far off.
- 2:28Speaker 1: What Cole Reagan's has done and did last year when
- 2:32Speaker 1: he was believe fourth in the cy Young. So I
- 2:34Speaker 1: think the Orioles, looking optimistically, say last year they combined
- 2:39Speaker 1: for twenty nine starts for our team. This year, if
- 2:42Speaker 1: they can combine for sixty, maybe even a few more,
- 2:45Speaker 1: then at least the front end is formidable, and we'll
- 2:48Speaker 1: see how Sigano does. We'll see if Charlie Morton still
- 2:51Speaker 1: has some magic at forty one, can Dean Kramer take
- 2:54Speaker 1: a step forward, and then they've got some depth behind that.
- 2:58Speaker 3: As a former one to one pick, Jackson Holiday had
- 3:02Speaker 3: an up and down rookie year, a lot of really
- 3:05Speaker 3: exciting moments for a baby to be in the big leagues.
- 3:09Speaker 3: What's the outlook for his sophomore season, because he's gonna
- 3:12Speaker 3: need to improve if this team is going to keep
- 3:14Speaker 3: him in the lineup to go somewhere.
- 3:18Speaker 1: Exactly. Talk about the smallest of sample sizes. It was
- 3:22Speaker 1: the final weekend of the regular season in twenty twenty four,
- 3:26Speaker 1: the Oriols at Minnesota and Jackson Holliday that weekend dropped
- 3:33Speaker 1: the highlight kick he had used throughout his amateur and
- 3:36Speaker 1: professional career to that point. They had behind the scenes
- 3:39Speaker 1: been working on some tweaks and he was drilling the ball.
- 3:44Speaker 1: He went like four for five that weekend. He hit
- 3:46Speaker 1: one four hundred feet off the left center field wall
- 3:49Speaker 1: in Minnesota. And so again that's the ultimate small sample size.
- 3:53Speaker 1: But Brandon Hyde said he was incredibly encouraged by that change,
- 3:57Speaker 1: and he had all winner to be at home at
- 3:59Speaker 1: Oklahom with his dad working on it. He reported to
- 4:02Speaker 1: Florida even bigger and stronger, added some weight, and so
- 4:06Speaker 1: I think we know this kid's makeup, mental makeup is
- 4:10Speaker 1: incredibly strong. So the struggles he had, I don't think
- 4:13Speaker 1: that's going to bother him in the least. I think
- 4:15Speaker 1: he remains very confident what he can do.
- 4:18Speaker 4: For me.
- 4:18Speaker 1: It's a matter of guys, does he improve to league
- 4:21Speaker 1: average or does he take a step beyond that, which
- 4:23Speaker 1: I think eventually he is going to do.
- 4:27Speaker 4: Another guy, Gunner Henderson, who's been absolutely spectacular these first
- 4:32Speaker 4: couple of years here just coming into his own time
- 4:35Speaker 4: to lock him up. Man, I got a feel and
- 4:37Speaker 4: this is one of those guys that should be there
- 4:39Speaker 4: for a long time. I think he will be there
- 4:41Speaker 4: for a long time. He's got comps to you know,
- 4:44Speaker 4: Bobby Wood junior kind of look and feel and play
- 4:48Speaker 4: and money wise, what's holding them back here a little bit?
- 4:53Speaker 1: Well, you know, I think the first year of the
- 4:56Speaker 1: new ownership with David Rubinstein and his group was a
- 5:00Speaker 1: fact finding year, learning what it's like to on a
- 5:03Speaker 1: major league club. You'd never done that. There are a
- 5:06Speaker 1: lot of ballpark improvements and the ools are making so
- 5:09Speaker 1: there are things happening beyond just the major league roster.
- 5:12Speaker 1: But Michael Isias has said he's got their full support.
- 5:17Speaker 1: Their payroll did grow to fifteenth from near the bottom
- 5:21Speaker 1: this year. A lot of that with arbitration raises, but
- 5:23Speaker 1: they also added O'Neil. They have athlete at eighteen million,
- 5:26Speaker 1: so there is some spending not seen in Baltimore in
- 5:31Speaker 1: several years to this point. But you're right, fans and
- 5:34Speaker 1: media wonder when will be the big signing. They didn't
- 5:38Speaker 1: re sign Burns, they didn't get Max Free, they haven't
- 5:41Speaker 1: extended any of the young guys. And I mean, you
- 5:43Speaker 1: got Adlie, you got Gunner, you got Westburg, you got Grace,
- 5:46Speaker 1: and you got Galzer. Everywhere you look there's a young
- 5:49Speaker 1: guy who might be part of their long term future.
- 5:52Speaker 1: But Gunner heads that list I mean, if they could
- 5:54Speaker 1: lock him up, that would be you know, that would
- 5:57Speaker 1: be a pre World Series type parade in Baltimore, knowing
- 6:01Speaker 1: they have this kid for many years to come.
- 6:05Speaker 4: Steve.
- 6:05Speaker 3: In twenty fourteen, I was in the dugout for the
- 6:09Speaker 3: two games in Baltimore where our Royals pounded the Orioles,
- 6:14Speaker 3: and a security guard while we were leaving said we'll
- 6:17Speaker 3: see you guys in four days, meaning they were gonna
- 6:20Speaker 3: beat us in KC and we're gonna come back. Well,
- 6:23Speaker 3: now we're in twenty twenty five. Still haven't seen a
- 6:27Speaker 3: playoff victory since then. So whoever that security guard was
- 6:31Speaker 3: is probably sick and tired of this. And how's it
- 6:34Speaker 3: going to turn around in twenty twenty five because you've
- 6:37Speaker 3: seen it, You've seen this tank job, and it's built
- 6:39Speaker 3: up for this team. They need to change it in
- 6:42Speaker 3: twenty twenty five. How are they gonna do it?
- 6:45Speaker 1: Well, you know, when someone asked me this week, what's
- 6:48Speaker 1: going to determine this season? I said, you know, it's
- 6:51Speaker 1: going to be six months of the grind of baseball
- 6:54Speaker 1: to get to October, which when we look a year
- 6:57Speaker 1: from now, that's how we'll look at their season in
- 7:00Speaker 1: October go team has been swept out two straight years,
- 7:03Speaker 1: ten straight playoff losses. They have not won a playoff
- 7:06Speaker 1: series since the series before that ALCS in twenty fourteen
- 7:10Speaker 1: against the Tigers. So that is the next stepping stone
- 7:14Speaker 1: for the Orioles. They have rebuilt the team. They went
- 7:17Speaker 1: from one hundred and fifteen losses to one hundred and
- 7:19Speaker 1: one wins. They showed they could win the Aled East
- 7:21Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three. They've still got a fertile farm.
- 7:26Speaker 1: Now they have to win in October. I mean, that's
- 7:28Speaker 1: the next step for this team. And as we know,
- 7:30Speaker 1: the Yankees will tell you, even the Dodgers could tell
- 7:33Speaker 1: you many bites of the apple before you actually get it.
- 7:36Speaker 1: It is the crapshoot, they say, October baseball now in
- 7:40Speaker 1: Major League Baseball. But that's the next hurdle for this team.
- 7:43Speaker 1: And when October comes, the pressure will be on the
- 7:46Speaker 1: Orioles if they make it, which they look like they
- 7:48Speaker 1: have a good chance to do.
- 7:50Speaker 3: Steve, did you say a fertile farm. I just want
- 7:52Speaker 3: to make sure I heard you right.
- 7:54Speaker 1: It has fallen in the farm rankings. I'll grant you that,
- 7:58Speaker 1: but they still have two times fifteen guys here Besio
- 8:01Speaker 1: and Mayo, two top fifteen, top twenty who we have
- 8:05Speaker 1: barely seen, and some guys behind that they like, like Bradfield.
- 8:09Speaker 1: So I think it was a natural progression. You cannot
- 8:13Speaker 1: stay number one forever. The Braves have sort of done it.
- 8:17Speaker 1: The Dodgers. It's hard to win at the major league
- 8:20Speaker 1: level and have a top farm. So yeah, it's probably
- 8:25Speaker 1: not as fertile as it was when they were ranked
- 8:27Speaker 1: number one, when guys like Jackson Holliday were in the
- 8:30Speaker 1: farm and going further back, Adalie and Gunner. But I
- 8:33Speaker 1: think they still feel good about it, and they really
- 8:36Speaker 1: feel good about their international program, which if you look
- 8:38Speaker 1: at their top thirty right now, it's almost half international.
- 8:42Speaker 1: There are very few teams that can say that, so
- 8:44Speaker 1: they do have some next wave or two coming they feel.
- 8:50Speaker 3: I love that you said fertile farming. The issue is
- 8:53Speaker 3: what happens from a fertile farm. You build beautiful, beautiful produce,
- 8:58Speaker 3: but if it never gets picked, it rottens and all
- 9:02Speaker 3: of these prospects could be rotting. Is michae Elias going
- 9:05Speaker 3: to be able to create all these beautiful prospects and
- 9:09Speaker 3: never get rid of him? To get over the hump
- 9:11Speaker 3: or is he going to be able to change his
- 9:14Speaker 3: evaluation and say, you know what, it's okay, we got
- 9:18Speaker 3: rid of Norby. He's going to have success. But we
- 9:20Speaker 3: believe in in you know, we picked up we picked
- 9:24Speaker 3: up Rogers, whether it's good or bad. Is he going
- 9:27Speaker 3: to be able to get away from that evaluation or
- 9:29Speaker 3: is it going to be the same old, same old.
- 9:32Speaker 1: Well, I think the pressure on the Oil front of
- 9:34Speaker 1: office is Okay, you rebuilt it. You said you wanted
- 9:38Speaker 1: to make an elite farm system. You did. You said
- 9:42Speaker 1: you wanted to get back to winning, you did, and
- 9:45Speaker 1: now can they win in October? That pressure's on the
- 9:48Speaker 1: entire organization from Micha Elias on down. And I think
- 9:51Speaker 1: Mike is a first time general manager. And while he's
- 9:54Speaker 1: been very good in Baltimore, he would probably even tell you,
- 9:59Speaker 1: uh that. Now the test for him and his staff
- 10:03Speaker 1: is to keep it going, keep winning. He said, I
- 10:06Speaker 1: only want to rebuild this once. We don't want to
- 10:08Speaker 1: go through this twice. And stay relevant, stay winning, stay good,
- 10:13Speaker 1: keep the window vast, and kick the door in. So
- 10:17Speaker 1: that's the test for Mike two. He got him to
- 10:19Speaker 1: this point. Now what does he and his staff do
- 10:22Speaker 1: to take the next steps.
- 10:24Speaker 2: I'm with you, Hey, we're waiting for it. I know
- 10:27Speaker 2: Baltimore is very very anxious for that next step, so
- 10:31Speaker 2: we'll see what happens. It's great to have you on
- 10:32Speaker 2: here for the first time. Really appreciated Steve. Everyone can
- 10:35Speaker 2: give Steve a follow if you don't already. Steve on
- 10:37Speaker 2: Baseball covers the oriol super super well, so we appreciate it.
- 10:41Speaker 1: Great to have you all right, Thanks Scott, Thanks guys,