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8-28-26 KSEV Mornings with Craig and Wayne Hour 1 · KSEV Mornings with Craig and Wayne

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Speaker 1: Houston, and across the great state of Texas. This is
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Speaker 1: KSEV Mornings with Craig Collins.
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Speaker 2: I mean, anything at all. No, it's crazy.
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Speaker 3: Welcome to the Thunderdome, people.
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Speaker 1: News, opinions, politics, and the stories that matter to Texans.
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Speaker 4: I shaved for this?
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Speaker 1: Here are your hosts, Craig Collins and Wayne Dolcefino.
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Speaker 3: Remember, everyone, just don't be yourselves.
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Speaker 1: On KSEV AM 700, The Voice of Texas.
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Speaker 3: Yes! That's awesome! And now, Craig Collins and Wayne Dolcefino.
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Speaker 5: Thank you, Dana Lash.
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Speaker 2: This is KSEV Mornings. I am Craig Collins. Wayne Dolcefino
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Speaker 2: still on special assignment. I think he'll be back on Monday.
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Speaker 2: Just so the audience knows, this will probably happen a lot.
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Speaker 2: Wayne is a very busy guy. He is definitely a
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Speaker 2: part of the show. Whenever he has the ability to
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Speaker 2: be here. When he doesn't, you get stuck with just me.
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Speaker 2: Lots and lots of things to talk about. A couple
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Speaker 2: things coming up in a bit today. Normally, we do
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Speaker 2: our Veteran Voices segment at 8.30 to end the show.
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Speaker 2: I should tell this to Russell sitting behind me. In
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Speaker 2: my intro, it says it's commercial-free. That's not true yet.
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Speaker 2: We don't have an advertiser. We're going to get an advertiser.
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Speaker 2: We're going to try to make it commercial-free. But I
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Speaker 2: can't get that out of the intro. So you'll hear it,
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Speaker 2: and you'll be sitting there running the board and be like,
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Speaker 2: what the hell is this? And it's wrong. So it's
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Speaker 2: something we'll fix. And then at some point, hopefully, we
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Speaker 2: find an advertiser who can help us do a commercial-free
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Speaker 2: half hour with a Veteran. But that is coming up
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Speaker 2: at 7.30, typically it'd be at 8.30. And then Vince
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Speaker 2: Colonese will be joining the show in the first week
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Speaker 2: that I am now one of your morning show hosts.
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Speaker 2: He is a very good friend of mine slash my cousin.
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Speaker 2: And he'll be on because he does a 12 o'clock
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Speaker 2: show every day on this station that is excellent and
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Speaker 2: you should listen to it. Vince Colonese, The Vince Show.
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Speaker 2: So that's coming up in a little bit too.
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Speaker 3: All right.
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Speaker 2: President Trump was in Texas and specifically he was actually
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Speaker 2: in Houston. for a Ken Paxton fundraising event. A couple
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Speaker 2: big things that we should know now that it seems
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Speaker 2: as though the president and Elon Musk and a bunch
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Speaker 2: of people have turned their attention to this Senate race
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Speaker 2: because of how crazy it would be if Tallarico actually
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Speaker 2: won said Senate race. And we actually put a video up,
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Speaker 2: I think it was yesterday morning, that went kind of
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Speaker 2: viral for us, which is shades of gray. Depending on
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Speaker 2: who you are, it probably doesn't look that viral. But
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Speaker 2: for us, it's It's a decent thing where a lot
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Speaker 2: of people seem to react to a very simple Tallarico
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Speaker 2: clip that I played on this show. And the Tallarico
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Speaker 2: clip isn't fake. It's real. He hates voter I.D. and
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Speaker 2: a Democrat that wants to be a senator in Texas
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Speaker 2: who hates voter I.D. seems to be someone that we
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Speaker 2: probably shouldn't have be in charge of a state or be,
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Speaker 2: you know, a significant power player in a state that
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Speaker 2: is across the border of Mexico that borders Mexico. That
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Speaker 2: seems bad. But money will probably be infused into this
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Speaker 2: campaign now. A part of that was Fox talking about
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Speaker 2: the amount of money that President Trump and his super
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Speaker 2: pact has. So let's play that audio first. But so
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Speaker 2: much to talk about today, in all honesty, after Trump's
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Speaker 2: visit here and the likelihood that you're going to see
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Speaker 2: a bunch more ads. We have an ad from earlier
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Speaker 2: this week that went viral on the Internet, but definitely
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Speaker 2: is probably going to be on more televisions relatively soon.
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Speaker 2: And I think that's good because the ad is great.
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Speaker 2: But here's a little bit of what Fox said about
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Speaker 2: the amount of money that President Trump has that he
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Speaker 2: can give to people to run campaigns.
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Speaker 3: Here we go. The White House with the details.
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Speaker 6: Good morning, Peter.
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Speaker 7: Good morning, and the president's already got a huge war
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Speaker 7: chest to spend in the midterms. The Super PAC alone,
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Speaker 7: MAGA Inc., has $ 400 million just sitting there in a
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Speaker 7: bank account, but they are still going to go out
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Speaker 7: and raise more money because ads in a place like
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Speaker 7: Texas are going to be super expensive with media markets
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Speaker 7: like Dallas and Houston.
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Speaker 8: I'm going to help Ken Paxton. And I'm going to
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Speaker 8: spend a lot of time in Texas. We're working very hard.
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Speaker 8: We want to win that race. He's running against a
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Speaker 8: man who should never be. We have a very good candidate,
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Speaker 8: Ken Paxton. And he's running against Telefrico.
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Speaker 7: The ultimate showcase a president can have standing alongside astronauts
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Speaker 7: you sent on a successful mission to the far side
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Speaker 7: of the moon. The Artemis 2 astronauts are going to
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Speaker 7: receive the Congressional Medal of Honor later on today. And
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Speaker 7: the president's top ally.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that will happen today. And it'll be cool to
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Speaker 2: watch the president stand with the astronauts and congratulate them
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Speaker 2: for a successful mission. And then probably continue to hammer
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Speaker 2: James Talafrico, James Talawako as a awful, awful candidate. I
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Speaker 2: want to play this. This is a spot that definitely
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Speaker 2: is crapping all over Tallarico effectively and doing exactly the
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Speaker 2: thing that so much of us need to see or
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Speaker 2: people that aren't aware of this need to see. It's
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Speaker 2: just him campaigning against himself by using all the crazy
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Speaker 2: things he said as the demonstration of how he does
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Speaker 2: not fit with Texas. I think you'll see this ad
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Speaker 2: more places. So if you're unaware of it, which some
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Speaker 2: people might be, it did go viral, as I said
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Speaker 2: earlier this week, you should be aware of it very soon.
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Speaker 2: But here we go. The Democrats have a weird, a
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Speaker 2: weird chat today. God is non-binary.
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Speaker 9: There are many more than two biological sexes.
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Speaker 3: In fact, there are six.
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Speaker 9: It is now existential that we try to reduce our
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Speaker 9: meat consumption.
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Speaker 2: The American flag is.
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Speaker 9: It's such a complicated symbol for most of us. Prophetic
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Speaker 9: voices like Jesus have helped me reckon with my own whiteness,
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Speaker 9: my own masculinity. Our southern border should be like our
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Speaker 9: front porch. There should be a giant welcome mat out front.
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Speaker 9: No need to sit and cry over, you know, your
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Speaker 9: whiteness or your masculinity. They're going to call me a
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Speaker 9: radical leftist.
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Speaker 3: You are. Something that you love that's not family or friends.
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Speaker 2: I love, and I'm just saying this because it's on
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Speaker 2: my mind, the.
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Speaker 2: Trans children.
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Speaker 10: The Democrats have a weird, a weird candidate.
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Speaker 2: Yes, they do have a weird, weird candidate, especially here
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Speaker 2: in Texas. And as I keep saying, someone who just
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Speaker 2: does not embody Texas values, does not embody the things
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Speaker 2: that you and I have come to believe. And I've
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Speaker 2: only been living here about a year and a half now,
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Speaker 2: but have come to believe are a core component of
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Speaker 2: what it means to be a part of this state.
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Speaker 2: How can someone represent this state in the Senate and
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Speaker 2: who thinks that we should stop eating meat. That's a
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Speaker 2: weird one. I know that's not the craziest thing he said,
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Speaker 2: but it's one that makes me uniquely upset as a
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Speaker 2: guy that loves steak a whole, whole lot. How dare you, sir?
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Speaker 2: How dare you? He also hates oil and gas, which
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Speaker 2: seems like something that would be bad. To remind everybody,
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Speaker 2: Ken Paxton earlier this week also talked about the amount
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Speaker 2: of money that Democrats will try to take from you
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Speaker 2: if they get back into power in more places. People
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Speaker 2: who want to vote, And I know I talked to E.J.
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Speaker 2: and Tony, the economists for the Heritage Foundation yesterday about this.
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Speaker 2: But people who want to vote based solely on how
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Speaker 2: well you're doing, how well the economy is going, how
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Speaker 2: likely in the near future you are to, say, get
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Speaker 2: a raise from your employer, any of that stuff. Voting
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Speaker 2: Democrats back into power is the dumbest possible decision if
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Speaker 2: that's actually your goal, because so many of the things
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Speaker 2: that they want, so many of the things they talk
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Speaker 2: about cost more money. And where do they get that money?
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Speaker 2: They always tell you that they'll get it from rich people.
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Speaker 2: We'll just increase the taxes on the rich. Everything will
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Speaker 2: be fine. New York is already seeing a lot of
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Speaker 2: the problems of that strategy. First, a bunch of rich
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Speaker 2: people are leaving. Other rich people are not giving them
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Speaker 2: the amount of money and taxes that they want. And
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Speaker 2: so what is Mamdami now talking about in New York? Well,
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Speaker 2: he's talking about raising taxes on everybody because that's step two.
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Speaker 2: Step one, it's just going to be on the rich.
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Speaker 2: Then they do the, ah, the rich are so smart
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Speaker 2: or they're so dastardly. We couldn't raise the money on them.
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Speaker 2: And then they raise the money on everybody else. And
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Speaker 2: then you feel like part of the rich that they
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Speaker 2: vilify all the time. But here's Paxton from earlier this
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Speaker 2: week talking about what he's been doing to circumvent Democratic
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Speaker 2: agenda for years. And honestly, even recently, and trying to
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Speaker 2: prevent them from sending money and resources and American information
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Speaker 2: to China.
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Speaker 11: Senate Bill 667 stopped Texas from sending your tax dollars
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Speaker 11: to companies controlled by the Communist Party. He voted no
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Speaker 11: on that too. While Texans are struggling to make ends meet,
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Speaker 11: Tallarico voted to let your taxpayer dollars go to Chinese companies.
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Speaker 11: Think about that for a second. Texans are choosing between
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Speaker 11: the grocery bill and the electric bill right now, and
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Speaker 11: James Tallarico voted to take their taxpayer dollars and then
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Speaker 11: put them in the pockets of the Chinese Communist Party.
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Speaker 1: That's a reality.
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Speaker 2: That's a bad reality, obviously.
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Speaker 11: It's not just a policy disagreement. It calls into question
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Speaker 11: whose side you're on.
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Speaker 2: Yes, it calls into question the thing that this morning's
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Speaker 2: show has been so good at talking about for so
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Speaker 2: many years with Chris Salcedo running the show, and that is,
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Speaker 2: who do you care about when you head off to Washington?
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Speaker 2: And a vast majority of the people on both sides
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Speaker 2: of the political aisle, this is true, care about themselves.
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Speaker 2: They care about what can be done for them. And
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Speaker 2: in this case, Tallarico also seems to care about what
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Speaker 2: can be done for all the radical parts of his
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Speaker 2: party that are pushing him in certain directions. He's going
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Speaker 2: to claim it's not true. But it's interesting. I'll say
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Speaker 2: this to you. And I know we're up against a
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Speaker 2: break and we'll be back in a bit. We'll play
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Speaker 2: some more audio of Jasmine Crockett, who still seems salty
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Speaker 2: that she is not, in fact, the Senate nominee in
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Speaker 2: this state. which I think is hilarious that she's still
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Speaker 2: mad about that. But nonetheless, what I'll say, and I
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Speaker 2: think that this is sort of a demonstration of how
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Speaker 2: deep all of this rabbit hole goes, how problematic all
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Speaker 2: of this is for you and me, when you start
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Speaker 2: your campaign by telling people in microphones and cameras that
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Speaker 2: that they're going to call me radical, it's because you
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Speaker 2: know that you are. When you try to circumvent that
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Speaker 2: objection to you, when that's one of the first things
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Speaker 2: you try to diffuse by saying, oh, look at how
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Speaker 2: crazy they are for calling me a radical, it's because
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Speaker 2: you know definitively that the ridiculous amount of things you've
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Speaker 2: said that we've uncovered so far And who knows what
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Speaker 2: else is out there if we keep looking at all
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Speaker 2: the different sermons he gave. But all the stuff that's
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Speaker 2: out there just shows us what he actually believes. You
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Speaker 2: can't put the genie back in the bottle, essentially, is
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Speaker 2: what I'm trying to say. And I think that the
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Speaker 2: more we get to see that, the more we get
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Speaker 2: to hear that. And the more money that winds up
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Speaker 2: going into this campaign, the Paxton campaign, the better it
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Speaker 2: is for everybody in Texas, because literally you don't have
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Speaker 2: to run a race. And I hate this. I actually
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Speaker 2: I'll put this out there because it is true. And
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Speaker 2: I saw some people in some of those posts we
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Speaker 2: put up on social media saying this. I hate running
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Speaker 2: a race where the only thing you do is attack
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Speaker 2: the opponent. I hate that. But this opponent is so
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Speaker 2: important to attack that that has to be the vast
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Speaker 2: majority of what you're doing. The other thing that Paxton
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Speaker 2: can remind you of, remind me of, remind anyone of,
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Speaker 2: is how ridiculously effective he has been. as far as
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Speaker 2: a politician goes, as far as a person that's making
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Speaker 2: decisions and fighting the good fight against the left as
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Speaker 2: an attorney general. That's the other big thing he can do.
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Speaker 2: He can sit on his record, and he can sit
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Speaker 2: on the fact that he's not a crazy, insane person.
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Speaker 2: All right, we've got to take a break. As I said,
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Speaker 2: Jasmine Crockett, audio, I'm sorry, coming up in just a
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Speaker 2: bit and quite a bit more. This is KSEV Mornings.
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Speaker 2: KSEV Mornings on The Voice of Texas. My name is
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Speaker 2: Craig Collins, Wayne Dolcefino on Special Assignment today. Coming up
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Speaker 2: in about 10 minutes or so, we will do a
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Speaker 2: Veteran Voices segment. We're doing it a bit early. Normally,
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Speaker 2: we do that at about 8.30 on Fridays. The whole
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Speaker 2: point of Veteran Voices is to hear from veterans. It's
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Speaker 2: something that I did in other places. It's something that
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Speaker 2: I was doing in the evenings here on The Voice
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Speaker 2: of Texas at the end of every single Friday show.
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Speaker 2: It's something I love doing. And the conversation we'll be
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Speaker 2: having today is a pre-recording with someone who runs a
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Speaker 2: charity that lets veterans and first responders go out and
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Speaker 2: ride horses in San Antonio and actually also just like
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Speaker 2: be around horses. And it's an amazing conversation because of
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Speaker 2: how that animal perceives people. Horses, for anyone that cares
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Speaker 2: or knows, are really, really good at reading humans. Just
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Speaker 2: the simple behaviors, the feelings, the the nervousness of someone.
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Speaker 2: And there's something really cathartic about a veteran being challenged
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Speaker 2: to calm a horse enough to ride it. And so
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Speaker 2: you'll hear all about that in about 10 minutes, as
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Speaker 2: I said, during a special edition of our Veteran Voices
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Speaker 2: segment that would typically take place at 8.30. All right,
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Speaker 2: I do want to play this. This is Jasmine Crockett
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Speaker 2: on CNN talking about how unenthusiastic Black Texans are about Tallarico.
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Speaker 2: Two things. That's true, first and foremost. But also you
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Speaker 2: can tell how salty Jasmine Crockett is that she, in fact,
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Speaker 2: is not the nominee and running for the Senate. And
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Speaker 2: her career in politics hopefully is over relatively soon here
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Speaker 2: when she's no longer a congresswoman. We'll see. We'll see
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Speaker 2: what happens. Here is Crockett, though, again, seeming to enjoy
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Speaker 2: the fact that Tallarico is not doing well with black Texans.
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Speaker 4: What are you hearing from black voters that you speak
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Speaker 4: to in Texas?
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Speaker 8: Is there excitement in terms of turnouts?
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Speaker 4: I don't think that there is excitement, but I think
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Speaker 4: that you turn that around. Well, I don't know that
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Speaker 4: like black voters are practical. So at the end of
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Speaker 4: the day, I don't think that they're going to have
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Speaker 4: to be the most excited. But I will tell you
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Speaker 4: that you always want voters to be excited.
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Speaker 5: Right.
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Speaker 4: Like you want them to feel that because that gives
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Speaker 4: you an idea. Again, if it's raining on that day,
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Speaker 4: if the lines are long. You want that excitement to
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Speaker 4: be able to overcome that.
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Speaker 9: That is suppressive tactics.
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Speaker 4: Correct. Because we saw that happening in the primary.
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Speaker 2: I'm going to stop. It's annoying. And she goes right
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Speaker 2: to the primary and suppressive tactics. And what she believes
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Speaker 2: is the reason she didn't win. Black voters weren't allowed
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Speaker 2: to vote for her, which is ridiculous and stupid as
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Speaker 2: an argument. I don't know. Genuine question. I'll throw it
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Speaker 2: out there and you can answer it if you want to.
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Speaker 2: You don't have to call in. You can answer it
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Speaker 2: in your car at the radio or you can call us.
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Speaker 2: And talk to us on the show. But why is
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Speaker 2: every politician that loses obsessed with some excuse for how
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Speaker 2: they lost that's so profoundly different than what the truth
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Speaker 2: is that they were a bad candidate who didn't have
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Speaker 2: a shot at winning? Like, why does every single one
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Speaker 2: of these people come up with another reason? Racism, sexism,
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Speaker 2: some other thing, depending on who you are out there
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Speaker 2: that says this. But I hear that all the time.
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Speaker 2: And I hear that from Democratic voters, too. Like, ah,
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Speaker 2: the reasons. That Kamala Harris didn't win is racism or
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Speaker 2: sexism or something. And I look at them and I go,
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Speaker 2: it's not because she was a terrible candidate. It's not
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Speaker 2: because she couldn't answer a question that was asked to her. Like,
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Speaker 2: what do you want to do? What are you going
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Speaker 2: to do differently than Biden? Anything about policy and decision making?
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Speaker 2: She would immediately fold back to, well, Trump is terrible
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Speaker 2: and I hate him. And this seems similar to what
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Speaker 2: Jasmine Crockett is doing in that entire CNN interview. She
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Speaker 2: is saying to everybody that's watching that station, which good
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Speaker 2: luck if that's where you get your news, that she's
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Speaker 2: salty and she's mad and that black people probably shouldn't
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Speaker 2: vote for Tallarico because they don't have the chance to
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Speaker 2: vote for her. But she's ignoring the fact that she
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Speaker 2: lost the primary. I'm not saying that I think Tallarico
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Speaker 2: is a better candidate. He's terrible. They're both awful. They're
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Speaker 2: both fairly radical. And so, again, it's just really interesting
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Speaker 2: to me. I don't think I could live that life.
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Speaker 2: I don't think I could be so self-obsessed. so delusional,
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Speaker 2: so crazy that I wake up every morning and convince
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Speaker 2: myself that everybody's the problem but me. I don't think
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Speaker 2: any of us can do that except the political people,
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Speaker 2: which is probably why they run for the political jobs
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Speaker 2: in the first place. And I do want to play
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Speaker 2: this as sort of a demonstration of this idea, sort
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Speaker 2: of a way to back up what I'm saying. This
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Speaker 2: is the Democratic governor of Kentucky, Andy Beshear, saying the
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Speaker 2: quiet part out loud that Democrats don't really have a
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Speaker 2: plan to for anything. The Democratic Socialists of America have
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Speaker 2: a plan, and that plan is horrific. That plan is communism.
18:45
Speaker 2: That plan is Marxism. That plan is everything that is
18:49
Speaker 2: totally not what the United States is supposed to be
18:51
Speaker 2: and was built on. But the rest of the Democrats,
18:54
Speaker 2: they don't really have a plan. They just have a
18:56
Speaker 2: simple mission, and the mission is attack Trump, tear apart Trump,
19:00
Speaker 2: make you hate Trump, because somehow they think that's winning elections.
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Speaker 14: And I view winning the House as stopping Trump from
19:08
Speaker 14: causing more harm.
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Speaker 3: No question.
19:09
Speaker 14: There could be no reconciliation where the budget is changed
19:13
Speaker 14: in ways that hurt people. There could be no other big,
19:15
Speaker 14: ugly bill that in the very least we could stop
19:19
Speaker 14: the SAVE Act.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we got to at least stop the SAVE Act.
19:23
Speaker 2: We got to do everything we can to harm the president.
19:25
Speaker 2: He said, I quote, I view winning the House as
19:28
Speaker 2: stopping Trump from causing us more harm. That is always
19:32
Speaker 2: been the game plan. President Trump sort of sucks the
19:35
Speaker 2: oxygen in the room in a somewhat beneficial way to
19:38
Speaker 2: the rest of the Republican Party, because in races where
19:41
Speaker 2: Trump's not on the ballot, and I know some are
19:44
Speaker 2: claiming that he's trying to make you feel as though
19:46
Speaker 2: he is, although his agenda is his administration is if Democrats.
19:50
Speaker 2: win control of any part of our government, President Trump
19:55
Speaker 2: won't be able to do the stuff he wants to do.
19:57
Speaker 2: So it is true that the agenda of this presidency
20:01
Speaker 2: is essentially on the ballot. But I love that people
20:03
Speaker 2: are saying that Trump is trying to make you believe
20:05
Speaker 2: that he's sitting there because he's not. And a lot
20:08
Speaker 2: of these races... I don't mean this in a crappy
20:12
Speaker 2: way toward the current president of the country, but he
20:15
Speaker 2: doesn't matter as much as Paxton versus Tallarico matters. That's
20:21
Speaker 2: what's important, is which of those two people do you
20:24
Speaker 2: think will try to do things via a Senate seat
20:27
Speaker 2: that you want to see done from this state? Which
20:30
Speaker 2: of the two individuals embodies the things you believe in?
20:33
Speaker 2: There's also this. I want to play one other piece
20:34
Speaker 2: of audio. Before we take our break and get our
20:37
Speaker 2: veteran voices segment set up and ready to go. But
20:40
Speaker 2: I think this is interesting. Nick Shirley is also in
20:43
Speaker 2: Texas at the same time that the president hopped on
20:46
Speaker 2: a flight and came here. Nick Shirley went to his
20:49
Speaker 2: Islamic to an Islamic center at the heart of some
20:52
Speaker 2: of the discussions going on. And it's not incredible audio
20:56
Speaker 2: yet because Nick Shirley is just starting to investigate some
20:59
Speaker 2: of this. But he's immediately kicked off of a property
21:02
Speaker 2: the minute that he gets somewhere because they want nothing
21:06
Speaker 2: to do with an independent journalist trying to look around
21:09
Speaker 2: and see what's true and what's been reported out there
21:13
Speaker 2: in the news and what is being investigated. He's just
21:15
Speaker 2: trying to get eyes on, which in our society is
21:19
Speaker 2: pretty much the biggest way that anyone believes anything anymore.
21:23
Speaker 2: And it's interesting to see how quickly they lock him
21:25
Speaker 2: down and move him across the street and then move
21:27
Speaker 2: him even further away. away from the center that he's
21:31
Speaker 2: trying to even just peacefully talk to people at the
21:34
Speaker 2: way that any other journalist might. It's pretty interesting. Here
21:36
Speaker 2: we go.
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Speaker 6: A big federal investigation, I think by the DOJ or
21:40
Speaker 6: by the FBI, as far as there was a concern
21:43
Speaker 6: that Sharia law may be taking place here. And they
21:46
Speaker 6: did a full....
21:48
Speaker 7: What?
21:49
Speaker 6: I'm not lying. I'm talking about the investigation that happened.
21:53
Speaker 2: I'm not lying. There was an investigation.
21:55
Speaker 6: They found that no Sharia law was taking place. With
21:59
Speaker 6: the investigation.
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Speaker 2: Are you allowed to be here? Say, Sean, is he
22:02
Speaker 2: allowed to be here? And then they kick him out,
22:04
Speaker 2: which is crazy. This guy and some other people at
22:06
Speaker 2: this facility are like, Nick Shirley, get out of here.
22:09
Speaker 2: I said this guy for anyone watching on our stream
22:12
Speaker 2: on Facebook or YouTube or any of that stuff. You
22:14
Speaker 2: can actually see the people that are kicking Shirley across
22:17
Speaker 2: the street, but they move them and then they move
22:19
Speaker 2: them again. and the cops are involved in helping to
22:22
Speaker 2: do this. They tell him to get out of here.
22:23
Speaker 2: I'm just wondering why. Why do I have to move?
22:27
Speaker 2: All right, I got you. I'm going to move.
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Speaker 6: You guys just got kicked off of the mosque property,
22:30
Speaker 6: I guess.
22:31
Speaker 2: I don't know why. What's going on here? And then
22:34
Speaker 2: he stops. He's somewhat off the mosque property. How are
22:37
Speaker 2: you guys doing? He walks up to some people and
22:40
Speaker 2: tries to have a conversation with them, and the cops
22:42
Speaker 2: immediately come back.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I just got moved off, and they told me
22:50
Speaker 6: I had to come on this side of the sidewalk.
22:52
Speaker 2: Just get over there. Stop talking to anybody. The cop
22:57
Speaker 2: runs right back and stops him a second time. He
22:59
Speaker 2: walks up to a group of people, tries to have
23:01
Speaker 2: a peaceful conversation, asks them who they are, why they're there,
23:04
Speaker 2: and they don't let him do that. And you remember
23:07
Speaker 2: that California actually tried to pass laws. That would make
23:10
Speaker 2: what Nick Shirley is doing illegal. Investigative independent journalism. They
23:14
Speaker 2: tried to make that something that was against the law
23:17
Speaker 2: in California, which is, again, so far from what the
23:21
Speaker 2: First Amendment and the basic belief system of the United
23:25
Speaker 2: States is supposed to be. Like, it's crazy. But to
23:27
Speaker 2: watch this occur. And again, I don't think Shirley is
23:30
Speaker 2: going to give up. I think there's a chance that
23:32
Speaker 2: at some point in the near future, we actually hear
23:34
Speaker 2: a decent amount of reporting of what's happening here and why.
23:38
Speaker 2: This is the kind of thing that maybe we should
23:40
Speaker 2: be paying even more attention to. But honestly, and I
23:43
Speaker 2: guess I should say it this way, if you were
23:46
Speaker 2: someone on either side of the political aisle and you
23:48
Speaker 2: heard a story where people are practicing Sharia law, where
23:52
Speaker 2: things that are happening on U.S. soil, especially in Texas,
23:55
Speaker 2: seem to be uniquely bad and uniquely skirting anything that
24:01
Speaker 2: our own system of government is supposed to be, telling
24:04
Speaker 2: people how to live their lives. If you heard that
24:07
Speaker 2: and your response is just to go see what's actually
24:09
Speaker 2: going on, and even in the video saying that the
24:12
Speaker 2: investigation so far has turned up no proof of some
24:15
Speaker 2: of the things that they're worried about, but they're not
24:17
Speaker 2: done investigating. If that's all you do, you just go
24:19
Speaker 2: to have eyes on and you get moved and kicked
24:22
Speaker 2: out and told to go away, you immediately become more suspicious.
24:26
Speaker 2: You immediately start to believe, all right, there's a really
24:28
Speaker 2: good chance that what they're claiming is happening here is
24:32
Speaker 2: definitely happening here. So I just think that's fascinating that
24:36
Speaker 2: we are getting to that point where, by and large,
24:39
Speaker 2: we're having this conversation that that most of us probably
24:42
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24:44
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24:47
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24:50
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24:52
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24:54
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25:14
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25:16
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Speaker 21: 700 a.m thrilled to be with you so much stuff
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Speaker 21: to our veteran voices segment uh this is something that
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Speaker 2: I typically will probably do this at 8 30 we're
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Speaker 2: doing it at a special time today i got an
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Speaker 1: It's time for veteran voices a half hour of commercial-free
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Speaker 1: Veteran Voices on KSEV AM 700. The Voice of Texas.
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Speaker 2: So it's kind of going to be commercial-free. It's kind
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Speaker 2: Russell did me a solid, and this time we're going
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Speaker 2: is an example of what we're hopefully going to get
30:09
Speaker 2: to do every single Friday in the near future, but
30:12
Speaker 2: we'll certainly be talking to veterans every Friday.
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Speaker 3: Here we go.
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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Craig Collins Show. It is time
30:17
Speaker 2: for our Veteran Voices segment. I am thrilled to welcome
30:20
Speaker 2: Jim Sholley to the show. He's out of San Antonio.
30:24
Speaker 2: He saw a social media post that I put up
30:25
Speaker 2: a little while ago and said, hey, I'm a veteran.
30:28
Speaker 2: I'd love to talk to you. Jim, how you doing, buddy?
30:31
Speaker 3: Outstanding, brother. How you doing, sir? Great.
30:34
Speaker 2: Thrilled to have you on. Thrilled to continue doing this
30:36
Speaker 2: Veteran Voices segment now that we have a morning show
30:39
Speaker 2: and not an afternoon show. So I'm sure that the
30:41
Speaker 2: audience is probably bigger than it was at 630 at night.
30:44
Speaker 2: which is awesome. Tell me a little bit about New Tactics, Inc.,
30:48
Speaker 2: the organization that you founded.
30:50
Speaker 3: Man, where do I start? There's so much amazing things
30:53
Speaker 3: to start with. First, we started in 2018. I'll just
30:56
Speaker 3: start there. How about that? Sure. Our co-founder, Dr. Dennis Scholl, myself,
31:02
Speaker 3: and my wife, Tammy, all veterans. Dennis Scholl has stepped
31:07
Speaker 3: down away from us for a while, and we've moved
31:10
Speaker 3: on from there. So now Tammy and I run it.
31:13
Speaker 3: I just want to give props to him for a
31:16
Speaker 3: huge asset to helping us begin this program. Our intention
31:20
Speaker 3: was a rural environment, but we've focused on San Antonio
31:24
Speaker 3: primarily with all the warriors that are in San Antonio
31:26
Speaker 3: and the surrounding area. The idea was to give them
31:30
Speaker 3: an opportunity to learn a little bit about the country life,
31:33
Speaker 3: come out and learn about horses and all the gear
31:36
Speaker 3: that goes along with that and tacking up and all
31:39
Speaker 3: that kind of stuff. We transitioned a little bit into mindfulness,
31:43
Speaker 3: you know, doing that piece. So here, let me.
31:46
Speaker 2: Jump in just a quick, because I want people to
31:48
Speaker 2: make sure they understand. So you are an equestrian nonprofit.
31:51
Speaker 2: Is that the right way to call it? Is that
31:53
Speaker 2: the right thing to call it?
31:53
Speaker 3: Absolutely. 110%. Cool.
31:56
Speaker 2: And you believe a lot in the benefits, the mental
32:00
Speaker 2: benefits of something to do with horses, whether it's actually
32:03
Speaker 2: just probably being around horses or riding horses, all different
32:07
Speaker 2: kinds of therapeutic benefits that veterans can get. by interacting
32:11
Speaker 2: with horses?
32:13
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely. It's a huge change of mind. People have
32:20
Speaker 3: these unnatural fears that horses can change your life and
32:27
Speaker 3: they don't realize how great they are until they start
32:31
Speaker 3: getting around them and they touch them and listen to
32:33
Speaker 3: them and see them. Huge changes happen over Over time,
32:41
Speaker 3: they've come out, and they're with the horses, and they
32:44
Speaker 3: enjoy them. So they come in, and I don't know
32:49
Speaker 3: where we can go from here, but they come out,
32:51
Speaker 3: they sign up, they come out, and some of the
32:55
Speaker 3: things that we do are mostly mindfulness, right? It has
33:00
Speaker 3: to do with getting their mind right so they can
33:03
Speaker 3: focus on actually riding.
33:05
Speaker 2: Well, that's what's interesting, too, to me about this. And
33:08
Speaker 2: I do want to focus a little bit on what
33:09
Speaker 2: you just said a moment ago, that both you and
33:12
Speaker 2: your wife are veterans and you co-founded this organization with
33:15
Speaker 2: another veteran, which I think is really cool. I don't
33:17
Speaker 2: know that I talk to a lot of vets that
33:19
Speaker 2: are married to vets. And I imagine there might be
33:22
Speaker 2: some sort of unique component to your relationship and how
33:25
Speaker 2: well you guys understand each other because you both have
33:28
Speaker 2: that shared experience. But when you're talking about horses, one
33:31
Speaker 2: of the things that I most think of is my wife.
33:32
Speaker 2: She was born and raised in Mexico. Got to be
33:35
Speaker 2: around horses a lot as a kid. We don't have
33:37
Speaker 2: any horses now, so she definitely misses them. But anytime
33:41
Speaker 2: she sees one, even a painting of a horse, there's
33:43
Speaker 2: this weird version of calm that sort of comes over her.
33:46
Speaker 2: And one of these times that we were with a
33:48
Speaker 2: friend who has a couple horses... She even described one
33:50
Speaker 2: as a giant dog, which I thought was funny. But
33:53
Speaker 2: like the interactions, the way the horse was kind of playing,
33:56
Speaker 2: it reminded both of us of our dog. So maybe
33:58
Speaker 2: that's a good place to start is that a lot
34:00
Speaker 2: of people also believe that horses can really interpret us
34:04
Speaker 2: as people very well. If we're intense or we're nervous,
34:08
Speaker 2: they're nervous. If we're calm, they're calm kind of thing.
34:10
Speaker 2: So there's some sort of beautiful reflection in how people
34:14
Speaker 2: behave that you get through a horse.
34:17
Speaker 3: Absolutely. Within about 10 feet from that horse, they can
34:20
Speaker 3: sense your heartbeat. They can sense a lot of things
34:23
Speaker 3: about you and how you're behaving and how you approach them.
34:30
Speaker 3: If you've got some nasty crap going on, they know it.
34:32
Speaker 3: They can see it, and they immediately respond to it. Again,
34:37
Speaker 3: I go back to when we first began our session
34:39
Speaker 3: on Saturday mornings. Tammy sits them down. She starts talking
34:44
Speaker 3: to them. She goes over a few things about mindfulness.
34:47
Speaker 3: She has them do a short meditation, picks out some
34:53
Speaker 3: mindfulness cards, has them focus on certain words. And they
34:57
Speaker 3: use those things during the time that they're here. And
35:00
Speaker 3: we spend about three hours on the horse. And it's
35:04
Speaker 3: not a program where we do six to eight weeks
35:06
Speaker 3: of you come out and have to do everything over
35:08
Speaker 3: and over again. But we do different things every time
35:11
Speaker 3: they come out. We just incorporate a big earth ball. And, and,
35:18
Speaker 3: and that's a, you know, that's a huge challenge and
35:21
Speaker 3: a lot of fun for our warriors because, you know,
35:23
Speaker 3: they get to do something that's completely outside the box
35:25
Speaker 3: when it comes to horses and, and be on the
35:28
Speaker 3: back of a horse with this huge ball.
35:29
Speaker 2: So wait a minute. You got to explain this to
35:31
Speaker 2: me more. A huge earth ball. Does like the horse
35:33
Speaker 2: kick the ball? How does the ball, how does it work?
35:37
Speaker 20: No.
35:37
Speaker 3: So we use, you know, the riders as, as if
35:40
Speaker 3: they were, you know, a big game polo.
35:44
Speaker 19: Yeah.
35:44
Speaker 3: Okay, cool. So they use, So they use their feet and,
35:49
Speaker 3: you know, it's not for all of our horses just yet.
35:52
Speaker 3: You know, we have to desensitize them still, but we're
35:55
Speaker 3: working up to it, you know, and some of them
35:57
Speaker 3: respond to it better than others. And I want to mention,
36:01
Speaker 3: you mentioned my wife and I both being warriors, veterans. Yes.
36:07
Speaker 3: All of our staff are warriors. We don't have any
36:10
Speaker 3: civilians that are in our organization. We are all warrior veterans. uh,
36:15
Speaker 3: ran organization. Wow. Um, we love civilians. We understand how
36:20
Speaker 3: they incorporate into our lives, uh, how they're important, you know,
36:24
Speaker 3: our spouses, our doctors, whatever. Yeah. But here, like you
36:28
Speaker 3: said earlier, I don't have to explain when I come
36:31
Speaker 3: home from work, how somebody is a pogue or something else. I,
36:36
Speaker 3: all of the, all, all the warriors here know pretty
36:39
Speaker 3: much what we're saying. You know, sometimes the air force
36:41
Speaker 3: can be a little funny about what they, you know,
36:43
Speaker 3: what they know.
36:44
Speaker 2: And, Yes, the chair force.
36:47
Speaker 3: Yeah, we love all of our branches very much, and
36:49
Speaker 3: we want them to come out and enjoy themselves and
36:52
Speaker 3: feel the camaraderie between, you know, all the warriors that
36:56
Speaker 3: come out and ride. Sure.
36:58
Speaker 2: By the way, for anyone that doesn't know what he
36:59
Speaker 2: meant by POG, it's person other than grunt is what
37:03
Speaker 2: you meant by that. That's what that stands for. And
37:05
Speaker 2: I love acronyms in the world of the military because
37:07
Speaker 2: there's such a ridiculous amount of them. But let me
37:10
Speaker 2: focus a little bit on your military service. What branch
37:12
Speaker 2: of the military were you in, Jim?
37:15
Speaker 3: Well, the first and the best, of course, is the Army.
37:17
Speaker 16: Okay.
37:17
Speaker 3: And, you know, I spent 23 years in the United
37:21
Speaker 3: States Army, seen different places, been to different places. I
37:26
Speaker 3: was a maintenance guy, so all I know is, you know,
37:29
Speaker 3: how to turn a wrench. I retired as a Sergeant
37:32
Speaker 3: First Class.
37:33
Speaker 2: Wow.
37:36
Speaker 3: I absolutely loved it. There was nothing better, you know,
37:38
Speaker 3: than being around people that aspire to be better, inspire
37:43
Speaker 3: to make you better. that literally have your six, you know,
37:46
Speaker 3: when you're in, uh, different places in different environments.
37:51
Speaker 6: Yeah.
37:51
Speaker 5: Uh, yeah.
37:53
Speaker 2: No, we can even, we can, Oh, go ahead.
37:55
Speaker 3: Keep going.
37:56
Speaker 9: No, no, no.
37:56
Speaker 3: I was going to say my wife and I met
37:58
Speaker 3: at Fort hood. She was a medic. Um, so go ahead.
38:02
Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
38:02
Speaker 2: Oh, no, I was going to say to you, because
38:04
Speaker 2: I really love that. You said, um, that people have
38:06
Speaker 2: your six. Um, I think that there's something so amazing
38:09
Speaker 2: about the supportive atmosphere, uh, of veterans to other veterans.
38:12
Speaker 2: And I wonder how this ties back to the organization
38:15
Speaker 2: you created, New Tactics, and how it makes you and
38:17
Speaker 2: your wife feel to give back to other veterans through
38:20
Speaker 2: this therapeutic service that you're doing with, you know, riding horses.
38:27
Speaker 3: Well, you know, I will say that, you know, once
38:30
Speaker 3: we get them, after Tammy finishes with them and get
38:34
Speaker 3: them to where they need to be and then assign
38:36
Speaker 3: them the horses, to see the look on their face
38:38
Speaker 3: when they go on and get their horses, um, to
38:41
Speaker 3: realize that, you know, this is something that they're going
38:44
Speaker 3: to be able to do. And, you know, we, we
38:45
Speaker 3: have a lot of time for first time riders and it's, uh,
38:49
Speaker 3: it sometimes it brings tears to my eyes because I
38:51
Speaker 3: realize that these guys are doing, you know, they, they
38:54
Speaker 3: found it to defend the country and, uh, and foreign domestic,
38:58
Speaker 3: but they get to ride a horse that they are
39:00
Speaker 3: definitely afraid of. And it's a brand new challenge. You know,
39:06
Speaker 3: it's a brand new challenge. And, uh, Sure, some of
39:09
Speaker 3: them have been in some really big crap and some
39:12
Speaker 3: really bad things, but they get to do something that
39:18
Speaker 3: is completely outside their comfort zone.
39:20
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, and honestly, because I don't know if you
39:23
Speaker 2: have a familiarity with the Honor Flight. I know there's
39:25
Speaker 2: an Honor Flight in San Antonio. I know there's one
39:26
Speaker 2: in Houston, too.
39:27
Speaker 3: Okay, you do.
39:28
Speaker 2: Um one of the things i've said a lot about
39:30
Speaker 2: that organization is how amazing it is to watch especially
39:33
Speaker 2: the vietnam guys who get to take the trip out
39:36
Speaker 2: to dc and come back when they come home and
39:38
Speaker 2: the emotions that they display and how in a short
39:42
Speaker 2: amount of time if you get to know any of
39:43
Speaker 2: these guys they feel like the kind of guys that
39:45
Speaker 2: emotion isn't coming out of them often So when you
39:47
Speaker 2: see that overflow, especially if there's kids at like a
39:49
Speaker 2: welcome home and it kind of hits them that way,
39:51
Speaker 2: I imagine your organization creates a lot of those same moments,
39:55
Speaker 2: especially for someone. And I think this might be uniquely
39:58
Speaker 2: true for veterans. You definitely have to tell me if
40:00
Speaker 2: I'm right about this. who sees the challenge of the moment,
40:03
Speaker 2: as you said, might even be intimidated by it, but
40:05
Speaker 2: they're a vet. They're not going to back down. They
40:07
Speaker 2: do it. They successfully ride the horse. And then there's
40:09
Speaker 2: probably that moment of relief after the successful part of
40:13
Speaker 2: this whole experience goes. And I think that's probably where
40:16
Speaker 2: the fountain of emotions might come from. But you tell
40:18
Speaker 2: me what I'm getting wrong and right about that.
40:21
Speaker 3: No, you're, you're on point completely tip the spear. Um,
40:25
Speaker 3: you know, especially when they, because we don't just get
40:28
Speaker 3: them in the horse on the horse, you know, we,
40:32
Speaker 3: It's almost the very beginning. Everything's beginning. It's 100. It's
40:36
Speaker 3: not 101. It's 100. It's rushing your horse, explaining the attack,
40:41
Speaker 3: how to attack your horse, how your gear works, how
40:44
Speaker 3: your rig is going to go on your horse, how
40:48
Speaker 3: important it is to keep your horse secure. If you're
40:52
Speaker 3: 30 miles from town, I always use the analogy, if
40:54
Speaker 3: you're 30 miles from town in the middle of August,
40:55
Speaker 3: you don't want to walk. So if you lose your horse,
40:57
Speaker 3: you're walking. That's true. And any of my riders, they'll
41:02
Speaker 3: say the same thing. Jim says the same thing over
41:03
Speaker 3: and over again, like a broken record. But, you know,
41:07
Speaker 3: we teach them how to walk behind a horse. We
41:09
Speaker 3: teach them how to get into a round pen. You know,
41:12
Speaker 3: everything is just like the military. It's a repetition so
41:15
Speaker 3: that there's no, you know, there's no question in their
41:20
Speaker 3: mind how they're going to do this every single time.
41:22
Speaker 3: And then we're a peer-to-peer organization. You know, you've been
41:26
Speaker 3: here twice. Okay, guess what? You started helping your fellow battle.
41:29
Speaker 19: Oh, wow.
41:30
Speaker 3: Do their crap. And if it's wrong, if it's wrong,
41:33
Speaker 3: I'm going to go over and correct it, you know,
41:35
Speaker 3: in a nice way.
41:37
Speaker 21: Sure.
41:37
Speaker 3: After about the 10th time you've been here, it may
41:39
Speaker 3: not be so nice after a while, but we want
41:43
Speaker 3: them to understand, you know, and I have repeat offenders,
41:47
Speaker 3: you know, and all jokes aside, they come out every
41:50
Speaker 3: Saturday and they ride. And of course they help other riders.
41:54
Speaker 3: And that way it takes the pressure off of us
41:56
Speaker 3: and our staff, you know.
41:58
Speaker 2: How many people do you have that come out regularly?
42:00
Speaker 3: It's an amazing experience.
42:03
Speaker 5: Oh, man.
42:05
Speaker 13: A lot?
42:06
Speaker 3: Usually about five to six. Okay. That's cool. Yeah, it's
42:14
Speaker 3: a great thing that they're coming back out, and I
42:18
Speaker 3: really think that they get a lot out of it because...
42:20
Speaker 3: They wouldn't be coming back otherwise.
42:23
Speaker 2: Why horses, Jim? Why was this what you decided to do?
42:26
Speaker 2: I've met all kinds of veterans who do all kinds
42:28
Speaker 2: of things to give back to other vets. I know
42:30
Speaker 2: people who start art organizations that find therapeutic value in
42:36
Speaker 2: encouraging people to create art. Why was this the avenue
42:39
Speaker 2: you chose to go?
42:39
Speaker 3: I kind of grew up not in the circle of
42:45
Speaker 3: horses all the time. I had horses around.
42:47
Speaker 6: Me a lot.
42:48
Speaker 3: I rode horses. You know, as a kid, I worked
42:52
Speaker 3: at the fairgrounds. They're an amazing creature just to look
42:56
Speaker 3: at and to watch. They're... They have an emotional connection
43:03
Speaker 3: with humans. I think that people, if you're not silent
43:07
Speaker 3: and you don't listen, you'll miss completely.
43:10
Speaker 2: How many do you have?
43:18
Speaker 18: Um.
43:20
Speaker 2: Are you okay? Did it, did it, did that get
43:22
Speaker 2: you a little bit there?
43:25
Speaker 3: Yeah. You know, you're kind of, you're, you're, you're touching
43:27
Speaker 3: on nerves.
43:28
Speaker 2: Um, I apologize for that.
43:29
Speaker 1: I don't know.
43:30
Speaker 2: Go ahead.
43:33
Speaker 3: No, no, it's a good, it's a good thing. It's
43:34
Speaker 3: not a bad thing. It's the, the healing, the healing
43:41
Speaker 3: things that they give you are just absolutely amazing. And
43:44
Speaker 3: we've got 13 right now.
43:45
Speaker 16: Wow.
43:46
Speaker 3: Um, And we have all different, you know, we have
43:49
Speaker 3: all different horses. And all of our horses have been donated.
43:52
Speaker 3: Most all of them have been donated to the program.
43:59
Speaker 3: And they're all different levels of, you know, abilities for
44:02
Speaker 3: the riders. So that we can make sure that we cover.
44:06
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is probably a good moment to mention how
44:08
Speaker 2: people could do that. If anyone out there listening wants
44:10
Speaker 2: to donate to you, contribute to your organization, or even
44:13
Speaker 2: if they can somehow donate a horse, how do they
44:15
Speaker 2: go about that?
44:19
Speaker 3: They can go to the big worldwide web and go
44:21
Speaker 3: to New Tactics. It's N-E-W-T-A-C-T-I-C-S-6.org. Our website has on the
44:33
Speaker 3: very front page of that is a donate button. You
44:37
Speaker 3: can hit that donate button and give away, please. We
44:42
Speaker 3: don't have, and I appreciate that segue, We don't have
44:47
Speaker 3: major donors. We don't have grants. This is a program
44:52
Speaker 3: that Tammy and I run by our funds, by our
44:58
Speaker 3: riders coming out. We do charge, but what we charge
45:03
Speaker 3: is the price of a meal at Whataburger, literally. And
45:07
Speaker 3: all those funds go right back into feeding the horses,
45:11
Speaker 3: keeping the tack serviceable, and maintaining. maintaining whatever we need
45:17
Speaker 3: to maintain.
45:18
Speaker 2: Do you get a lot of people that come from
45:19
Speaker 2: a lot further than San Antonio, or are people traveling
45:22
Speaker 2: from all over Texas to get there?
45:27
Speaker 3: We've had a few people from out of town, definitely.
45:29
Speaker 3: We haven't had too many people from too far away.
45:31
Speaker 2: Okay.
45:33
Speaker 3: But I do share as much as I can, as
45:35
Speaker 3: far as the way I can. We try to collaborate
45:38
Speaker 3: with some organizations, definitely in the San Antonio area.
45:42
Speaker 6: Cool.
45:43
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll try to get some people from Houston out
45:44
Speaker 2: to check it out, man.
45:47
Speaker 3: That would be amazing.
45:48
Speaker 2: Yeah, that'd be awesome. So let me ask you this,
45:50
Speaker 2: because I'm very curious about it the more I'm thinking
45:52
Speaker 2: about it. It sounds like, and I think you said
45:54
Speaker 2: at the start of the interview, that you and your
45:56
Speaker 2: wife and someone else founded this organization together. You're already married.
46:00
Speaker 2: You're already together. And somebody in that relationship, somebody in
46:04
Speaker 2: that group came up with this idea. I want to
46:06
Speaker 2: know how the first concept of this came out. Like
46:10
Speaker 2: who pitched it to who? Who struggled with the idea
46:12
Speaker 2: of doing this? Can you tell me any of the
46:14
Speaker 2: story of getting this off the ground?
46:19
Speaker 3: Well, I think all three of us kind of had
46:22
Speaker 3: discussed something. More Dennis and I talked to each other.
46:26
Speaker 3: Dennis is a retired Lieutenant Colonel Air Force. He was
46:29
Speaker 3: a clinical psychologist. Him and I, he wanted to start
46:35
Speaker 3: a rural housing facility outside in Somerset to bring warriors
46:42
Speaker 3: out to live there, learn about how to live in
46:45
Speaker 3: the rural setting, and then... you know, try to branch
46:48
Speaker 3: off from there and them getting their own property and
46:51
Speaker 3: being able to maintain themselves, that kind of stuff. It
46:55
Speaker 3: didn't really go that way because, again, you know, sometimes
46:58
Speaker 3: things take longer. This new tactics came about because we
47:03
Speaker 3: had the horses, we had the means, and I just
47:06
Speaker 3: started beg, borrow, and steal and, you know, all jokes aside,
47:10
Speaker 3: to get the equipment, to get what we needed, and
47:14
Speaker 3: then we had to come up with a name.
47:15
Speaker 1: So.
47:18
Speaker 2: Well, let me ask you this. Did anybody have any doubt?
47:21
Speaker 2: Did your wife? Did you? Did Dennis? Did anybody say, like,
47:24
Speaker 2: maybe this is going to be too expensive or too
47:26
Speaker 2: hard of an idea to pull off? It's awesome if
47:33
Speaker 2: the answer's no.
47:34
Speaker 3: I don't think there was any really.
47:35
Speaker 2: That's incredible.
47:39
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think it was that really... I don't
47:41
Speaker 3: think we really had a... I don't really think we
47:43
Speaker 3: had a big issue with.
47:46
Speaker 2: Any of that. That's amazing.
47:47
Speaker 3: We always felt that somebody was going to contribute. And
47:54
Speaker 3: I'll tell you, and I say this, I'm 6'7, 280
47:58
Speaker 3: on a good day, and I don't make friends in
48:03
Speaker 3: a bad way. I'm a big mouth. I talk to everybody.
48:07
Speaker 3: I was in McAllister's today, one of the restaurants, and
48:10
Speaker 3: there was a group of women there. having a meeting,
48:13
Speaker 3: and I gave them a business card and said, hey,
48:14
Speaker 3: if you guys are interested, they were actually having their
48:16
Speaker 3: monthly meeting about something. Because they're a part of the community,
48:23
Speaker 3: and San Antonio is just one of those communities that
48:27
Speaker 3: someone is touched by a veteran or a service member
48:31
Speaker 3: Literally within six degrees.
48:33
Speaker 2: Well, and the other thing that's so funny about this,
48:34
Speaker 2: and I don't know why I'm even asking the question,
48:36
Speaker 2: because the more I think about it, the fact that
48:38
Speaker 2: it's three vets in a room and you came up
48:40
Speaker 2: with a challenge, of course you're going to look at
48:41
Speaker 2: it from the aspect of, we're going to figure this out.
48:44
Speaker 2: No matter what the obstacle is, no matter what the
48:46
Speaker 2: challenge is, if we want to do this, we're going
48:48
Speaker 2: to do it. We're going to complete the mission. That's
48:51
Speaker 2: what it sounds like kind of was the mindset from Jump.
48:55
Speaker 3: Well, the really big challenge has been... And my wife
49:02
Speaker 3: doesn't like me saying this, but I'm going to say
49:03
Speaker 3: it anyways. And this is kind of a thing with
49:10
Speaker 3: me is that the one thing that we don't focus on,
49:13
Speaker 3: because our warriors are getting a lot of it, you know,
49:14
Speaker 3: whether it be a veteran service member or first responder,
49:17
Speaker 3: it's therapy. They've got a therapist, they've got a counselor.
49:21
Speaker 3: We don't focus on that. That's not what we do.
49:23
Speaker 3: We do mindfulness and mindfulness is, you know, how do
49:25
Speaker 3: I change my, my behavior? If I act a certain
49:28
Speaker 3: way on this horse, this horse is going to respond
49:30
Speaker 3: in kind, you know? Um, so I have to be here.
49:34
Speaker 3: I have to be present. I have to be aware
49:36
Speaker 3: of what's going on with me. so that I can
49:39
Speaker 3: be the leader to my horse that that horse needs
49:41
Speaker 3: me to be. And that's super, super important. And we
49:44
Speaker 3: do that every day in life. We're parents, we're fathers, mothers,
49:48
Speaker 3: you know, leaders at work, bosses, whatever. Um, that's important.
49:52
Speaker 3: The other thing we don't do is we don't talk
49:54
Speaker 3: about religion, um, because I don't know what your religion is.
49:57
Speaker 3: I don't know what, if you're, you know, a certain,
50:00
Speaker 3: you know, group or whatever. Sure. I don't care. You've,
50:04
Speaker 3: you've got whatever you do and that's fine.
50:07
Speaker 10: Um, yeah.
50:09
Speaker 3: I don't have a problem if you want to pray
50:12
Speaker 3: before you get on the horse. Go right ahead. But
50:15
Speaker 3: I want to make sure that every warrior that comes
50:17
Speaker 3: out here, every service member, veteran, first responder that comes
50:20
Speaker 3: out here feels that he or she is welcome because
50:25
Speaker 3: there's no stigma. There's nothing attached other than the camaraderie.
50:28
Speaker 2: Yeah, and what's really interesting about what you said a
50:30
Speaker 2: second ago, how everybody is a leader in some way
50:32
Speaker 2: in their life, whether it's with family or at work
50:34
Speaker 2: or something. I think the thing that a lot of
50:36
Speaker 2: us forget about in those moments where you are expected
50:40
Speaker 2: to make some kind of decision or to create a
50:43
Speaker 2: path for someone else to follow is the mindfulness, is
50:45
Speaker 2: the pausing, is the reflecting, is the thinking about what
50:49
Speaker 2: that should look like. I think there are a lot
50:50
Speaker 2: of people who make decisions without reflecting first. And so
50:54
Speaker 2: it sounds like one of the biggest lessons within the
50:57
Speaker 2: experience of going to New Tactics in San Antonio and
51:00
Speaker 2: getting to ride a horse and getting to be around
51:02
Speaker 2: them and getting to do the mindfulness exercises beforehand. is
51:06
Speaker 2: really finding that way to slow yourself down in order
51:10
Speaker 2: to make the best possible decision, which feels like something
51:12
Speaker 2: that's taught a lot in the military, too, that when
51:15
Speaker 2: everything is at its most crazy, when the you-know-what hits
51:18
Speaker 2: the fan, that that's the moment when you have to
51:20
Speaker 2: lock in and really step-by-step contemplate what you're doing as
51:25
Speaker 2: quickly but as rationally and as calmly as you can.
51:28
Speaker 2: Does that sound right to you or no?
51:31
Speaker 3: No, it's completely on point. I mean, we... You have
51:35
Speaker 3: all kinds of briefings before you go out and, you know,
51:38
Speaker 3: you leave the FOB and you talk about X, Y,
51:40
Speaker 3: and Z all the way through A through Z. And
51:45
Speaker 3: to be focused, because if you're not focused, you know,
51:48
Speaker 3: the bad stuff happens. So we don't want the bad
51:51
Speaker 3: stuff to happen. We want everybody to come home safe,
51:54
Speaker 3: no matter what the circumstances are. The same thing goes
51:57
Speaker 3: for here. We want everyone to be safe. And I
52:01
Speaker 3: joke and make the comments that, If you fall off,
52:05
Speaker 3: I'm going to calmly walk over and ask if you're okay.
52:08
Speaker 3: I'm going to score your fall, right?
52:12
Speaker 2: Of course you are.
52:15
Speaker 3: I'm going to score your fall and then say, do
52:17
Speaker 3: I need to call 911 because you're not okay? And
52:21
Speaker 3: if you're okay, you're going to get back on the horse.
52:24
Speaker 2: And if you're okay, do I need to call your
52:26
Speaker 2: buddy so we can all make fun of you together?
52:30
Speaker 3: Oh, don't worry. It'll be the talk of the rest
52:33
Speaker 3: of the afternoon, the rest of the morning session or whatever.
52:36
Speaker 2: Well, that's my favorite thing about hanging out with military guys,
52:39
Speaker 2: military people, is that nothing is off. You know, everything,
52:43
Speaker 2: you're allowed to make fun of anything and everything and
52:45
Speaker 2: laughing about everything is something that's sort of very cathartic
52:48
Speaker 2: with any group of guys that I hang out with
52:50
Speaker 2: that are military people. I really, really thank you for
52:53
Speaker 2: the time, Jim. One more time, I want to give
52:55
Speaker 2: you an opportunity to promote the organization, to promote how
52:57
Speaker 2: people get involved, however they want. I'm assuming you have
53:00
Speaker 2: some social media pages, too, you might want to throw
53:02
Speaker 2: out there.
53:05
Speaker 3: We're definitely at newtactics6. org. It's on the web. Facebook, it's newtacticsinc.
53:12
Speaker 3: You can go to Facebook and check us out there.
53:14
Speaker 3: I'm always posting. Last but not least, Instagram. Just type
53:18
Speaker 3: in newtactics. It'll come up. I'm trying to be cool
53:23
Speaker 3: with the Instagram stuff. I'm still learning all that crap.
53:27
Speaker 3: But for all intents and purposes, we're there. Um, and
53:30
Speaker 3: if you come from Houston, y'all come out from Houston
53:33
Speaker 3: and come up to San Antonio, just take a little trip. Um,
53:36
Speaker 3: come on out, you know, um, look at our website
53:39
Speaker 3: first and see if we're, you know, we're doing something and, uh,
53:42
Speaker 3: we'd love to have you. We, uh, we welcome all
53:44
Speaker 3: of our warriors.
53:45
Speaker 2: Uh, Jim is awesome. And that organization is awesome. And
53:47
Speaker 2: the stuff they're doing, um, is incredible. And as he said,
53:51
Speaker 2: horses are such a perfect choice for veterans because of
53:54
Speaker 2: how well they read people and how well they reflect
53:57
Speaker 2: what people are feeling and thinking. So it's a really
54:00
Speaker 2: great challenge to help calm you and to create a
54:03
Speaker 2: lot of maybe lasting change with things you're struggling with.
54:06
Speaker 2: So please check out New Tactics. Quick break. A lot more.
54:10
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54:15
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54:17
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