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Hawkeye talk with Tom Kakert, Mike Palm from Circa Sports on the Super Bowl & Football Friday Picks presented by Circa Sports · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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I'm Mary Condon, hour number two.
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Welcome back, Iowa Sports Radio Network with you until 2O clock,
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bottom of the hour. Mike Palm, VP of operations at
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Circus Sports. He will join us.
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We'll get the latest behind the counter with Mike.
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Is seeing any big bets come in so far?
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It's kind of it's not the calm before the storm anymore.
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We're on the weekend after all. So we should start to see if
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some of that play make its way out to the desert or onto some
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apps. We'll talk to Mike Palm and then
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we'll make our picks about 10 minutes before 2 2:00 before
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handing things off to Lucas Strain and David Eichold In for
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Sean today. Let's talk some Hawks.
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Tom Caker joins us. Hi, every single Friday,
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hawkeyereport.com, part of on three Media.
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Hello, Tom Trenton, Ken, how are you?
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I'm good. And you know, listening to you
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guys play black back in black just made me think, boy, can't
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football get back again football.
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Yes, we do. In the worst way.
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It's a long offseason. It is a long offseason.
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It just really is, isn't it just kind of drags and goes so fast
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once it gets here. But anyways, Tom, it'll be back.
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We'll have spring football. You'll be able to talk about,
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write about and speculate etcetera on that coming up here.
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When do they start, Do you know, third week in March and then
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they'll be done at the end of April.
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When as I went put anything out yet or still a little too early.
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They haven't put anything out, but they usually, they always
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start their spring practice right when they get back from
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from spring break. So I think it's, yeah, that
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third week, that Wednesday of the third week of March is
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usually the first practice that they have and then wrap up
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sometime, you know, late April, I would think, yeah.
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And it'll be a quarterback battle perhaps to start
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speculating on at that point. Well, we'll get to that when we
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get to that. But let's talk here and now in
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basketball. And the women took the floor
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last night, having lost their last couple of games, both on
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the on the left coast. But Minnesota comes to town and
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winnable basketball games seemingly.
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But yet, Tom, it did not go their way.
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What's going on? Yeah, it is.
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And I think there's a little bit of panic right now among the the
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Iowa women's basketball fan base just because they've, you know,
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losing the UCLA is not a surprise.
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I mean, UCLA is one of the best teams in the country.
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So, you know, they're good. They're probably 1.
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You know, I'd say UConn is 1 and UCLA is 1A in terms of national
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title contenders this year. But in the USC team, you thought
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maybe that was a winnable game and they end up dropping that
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one. And then last night, not just
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losing to Minnesota, but the way they lost just that.
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I mean, they were down 20. They were lucky to make it a six
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point game really. I mean, the late run kind of put
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some, you know, just put put a, you know, just trying to make it
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a little bit better. But it was just they were just
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bad. I mean, it was just the
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three-point shooting for their opponents and just, you know,
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kind of sloppy for Iowa just not getting stopped.
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And is it all because Taylor McCabe is hurt?
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I don't know. It just that seems illogical to
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me, but it definitely hit a hit a wall right now.
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So we know McCabe, it's an ACL, she's out for the year.
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There's no hope of a comeback or anything like that.
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We've seen since she's been inserted in the starting lineup.
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Addie Deal has been bad, certainly for I think the
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anticipation of what she did in that Ohio State game that that
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she was starting to turn the corner and that hasn't been the
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case. You have the issues with
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Feuerbach on the offensive end of the floor.
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There's times it feels like they're playing four on five
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offensively when she's out there.
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What can be done? Is it more strem blow?
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Is it maybe trying to play Journey Houston at the three and
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go that direction? I mean, what can you do?
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Because it doesn't seem like there's an easy fix to what's
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going on right now. And you know what, what's
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interesting is, and I said this, you know, after, after the, the
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the West Coast trip was just basically, I wonder if Addie
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deal had just gotten it seemed like she had just gotten
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comfortable in that role off the bench and she was starting to
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really excel and get comfortable and play her best basketball.
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And now you're thrust into the starting line up and it seems
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like she's back to square 1. And maybe it is better for Jan
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to just bring her off the bench. And I think Strumlaw would be
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the option. Probably it gives you another
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ball handler too. I think that's that's probably
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helpful. So I would probably move to
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start Strumlo starting. You know, the good thing is
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they've got a break now so they can kind of regroup.
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It would. I think they'd be in a little
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bit of trouble because they seem kind of shell shocked right now.
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And now they've got a, you know, weak break where they can kind
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of figure things out before they have to play another game.
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Speaking of figure things out and I think Trent just hit a
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selling point when it comes to Jeremy Houston because she
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seemingly is playing in her best basketball of her in her first
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campaign as a freshman. I mean, I know it's cliche, but
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seemingly the lights going on, Tom fair to say yeah.
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And. By the way, you know, how they
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could really use right now, probably Emily Rodriguez.
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Yeah, that'd be nice. And the end of the bench, you
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know, and and seemingly looks like taking a red shirt.
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And who knows what that's going to entail at the end of the
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year, if she's even going to be back.
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But boy, that's just, you know, they, they have done such a good
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job in the portal overall. The women's team has, you know,
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getting players like Lucy Olsen and, and chitchat and, and
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stuff. But they boy, that was a that
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turned out to be a miss. This turned out to be a mess.
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Not a fit and hasn't gone very well.
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If they dig a little bit deeper into the bench and certainly
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looking maybe for more guard play.
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We've seen Callie Levin, she comes in, boy, she just grinds
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out there on the defensive end. You could see she she's a try
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hard player. Is there a chance maybe she
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could surpass Bellini and that extra guard or swing player, you
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know, 2-3 whatever in the lineup?
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Could you see Levin maybe starting to carve out at least a
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little bit of a niche as they're they're searching for answers?
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I think so. I've always thought Tegan's more
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of a, more of a four, like a stretch four and and she's not
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shy about putting up shots either, by the way.
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She just, she's coming in and she's chucking so.
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What a 14 from three this year from Blaney.
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Yeah, she is not. She's not hitting many.
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She's taking a lot. She's not shy about the volume
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shooting, but she is not. Callie can shoot it too.
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So I think she's going to be one of the players that kind of ends
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up getting more minutes, especially if they go with
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Tremolo, because they're just, I think they're going to need
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another guard out there eventually.
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To the men's game, TC good with that, the Northwestern comes to
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to Carver 2O clock on Sunday afternoon.
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I've seen him a couple of times and it seems like to me they
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don't have a lot of talent on this basketball team.
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Martinelli is a really nice player, but but after that, Tom
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what? What do they have?
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Who am I missing that might that might present I with some
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problems? Yeah, and you know what?
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I saw them earlier in the year and I think it was against when
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they were playing Virginia and they played really, really well
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against Virginia. And I thought maybe Collins has
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got a little bit of a team here. He got a little point guard that
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was pretty good that they transferred in from I think like
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UCF or something like that. And but they have just hit a
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wall. I mean, Illinois just throttle.
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Them beat them by 40. They just, and it wasn't even
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that close. It could have been 50.
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I mean, it was I tuned it over there and watched about 5
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minutes and I was like, boy, oh boy.
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They're just. But Illinois is just playing at
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another level right now. Maybe, maybe they're better off
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without Kylan Boswell is what I suggested doing with my Illini
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friends. And that might be the case.
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But yeah, they've, they're, they're reeling right now.
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I think Northwestern is. And they're they're not playing
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well. And all they've got is
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Martinelli. And I thought they had some
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younger guys that were coming along, but boy, they just don't.
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Not right now. So we anticipate at the
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beginning of the game, Tavion Banks, they'll get the
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assignment of Martinelli. Who else to get a throw at him?
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Maybe a little Isaiah Howard off the bench.
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What are you doing defensively to slow down which at least in
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the middle of the week, he was the Big 10's leading scorer?
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You know what, I, I actually, I got some Intel on that because I
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have Cooper Koch. Today we had a we had a media
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session with Coop and and I was talking to him about garden
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different players and then I asked him if he was getting
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Martinelli and he said, yeah, I've got I anticipate I'm going
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to be guarding him. So it's going to be Cooper
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crotch on him probably more than more than banks.
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So I thought that was interesting.
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What did they do different for this West Coast trip that maybe
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previous teams hadn't done, Tom? Because you know, you go out
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there you'd side with beforehand, I think everybody
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was assigned for one and one, right?
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Come back winning them both and in the fashion that they did
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that they do anything different than I would teams in the past
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have not done. That really I asked, I had asked
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McCollum about that before they went out on the trip.
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And he just like, he just does not put up with any like
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potential excuse making. He's like, you know, he just
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doesn't, he just, he's like, we're not even going to talk
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about it. We're just not even going to
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visit regarding any of this. We're just going to go out and I
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expected to go play basketball. And he's just all about that.
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And the big thing they did on that trip was make some
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adjustments in the second-half because their defense in the
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first half against Washington was not good.
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And they'll started guarding some of those gaps almost like a
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pack line kind of defense and helping a little bit and
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stopping Zoom Diallo from getting downhill every time.
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And and then and Washington also regressing to the mean, which is
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what's going to happen when you make 11 straight shots.
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You're going to you're going to have some regression eventually.
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Everybody does. And except for Minnesota last
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night, I guess. But but they just, you know, and
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then they and then Bennett Sturtz just asserts himself.
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And that's, that's the recipe to get out, get out of Washington
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with a with a 10 point win. It's just watching on
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television, but in a way it felt like Tavian Banks missing that
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first free throw. It's pretty big weight off his
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shoulder. You could almost see the relief.
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I know there's a little smirk you can kind of see on his face.
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Don't have to worry about it. Don't think about in game.
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What if I go here? What if it's in a tight game?
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What if it's in the first half, like all of the that goes along
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with a free throw record and the historic nature of it being
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Chris St. You think that maybe in a way
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he's going to help out Tavion Banks a little bit?
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And secondly, with Tavion, what's the latest on the health
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front with him? Yeah, I think he's fine that
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health wise, I think whatever was dealing with his foot, I
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think it's a foot issue, but I'm not positive.
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And just because I'd seen him getting it worked on earlier in
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the year during timeouts, he would be over rolling a ball on
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the bottom of his foot. Makes me think maybe he's got a
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little plant of fascist stuff, which is not much fun, having
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dealt with that in the past. Not much fun.
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But I think he's doing OK now. And yeah, I think there was a
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weight lifted off. Not that he was like this Chris
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St. expert or Iowa fan growing up who just knows about the,
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the, the legend of Chris St. but just you're hearing about it and
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it just sort of like gets in your head a little bit.
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And, and now that's in the in the rear view.
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And he can go out, back out and just play ball and, and enjoy
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himself and, and I think he's going to be fine.
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Yeah, I'm I'm with you. And then the fact that you, you
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know, wasn't an eye when I I thought that that would lead him
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if he had the opportunity to break it just because he didn't
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know all about that time. Well, hell, he wasn't born at
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the time, but his coach was and his coach grew up in Iowa City.
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His coach loved the Hawks as kid.
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What? What did he say about it?
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As as the record geared was? Was he asked about it at all?
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Tom. Not really.
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He didn't, he didn't really say a whole lot about it.
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So but I think he would just I think Ben's mentality would be
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like, hey, let's just go out and sure, compete, compete.
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That's the big thing with with Ben is he is about the
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competition. I was asking, it's funny, I was
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asking Isaiah Howard because he kind of kind of called almost
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called McCollum like a psychopath or something like a
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psycho. And I, because I just, I'm like,
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because the coaches kind of say that about Isaiah Howard too.
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They're like, yeah, he's just, he's a psycho.
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And so I asked him, I go, what? It's because we, the, the
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McCollum that we get exposed to is the guy and he's press
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conference and he's pretty engaging, pretty fun and pretty
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introspective with his comments. And then see him on the
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sidelines and he's got some intensity to him, but he's like,
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he's like when he gets in between the lines, it is
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intensity. He is just so driven and so
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competitive and that's what drives his success.
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This is his competitiveness. You want to go to Bennett Sturtz
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and we have big expectations coming into the year when you're
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pre season All American, that's going to come along with it.
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He has taken his game though here recently to another level.
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He's out there playing a ton again outside of the Rutgers
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game. The offensive numbers have been
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incredible. That step back feels like it's
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really going. But really the last two games,
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those games at Oregon and Washington, he's been going to
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the tin a lot more, coming off the bound, doing those and and
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being more aggressive. Is it just the feeling out
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process being understanding more kind of what the big 10 riggers
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are about? Because it does feel like we've
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seen a different type of offensive skill set out of
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stirts here recently. And you know what he does, those
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bank shots that he hits where he throws it really high off the
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glass. Ted loves that.
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That is, that is something that I mean, you just don't see, no,
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you don't see guys above the square rolling bank shots in.
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And he just, he does it with ease.
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He's just got such a soft touch on his shot.
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It just just looks so smooth. And even when he's going to the
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bucket and you know, there was that stretch where it felt like
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maybe the Big 10 teams were getting in his, his kitchen a
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little bit more and causing him problems and he was struggling
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around the rim. And you know, Washington's got
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some, the cabinet kid is a good shot blocker.
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He's two 2.5 blocks per game and he just looked totally
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comfortable going to the rim the last couple games and I his it
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looks like he's got a little bit of his swagger back now that
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maybe I wouldn't say it was it was waning, but he was saddled
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in the foul troubles with 3-4 games in a row and the Minnesota
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game, he was in foul trouble and he just kind of I think he's
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gotten past all that now and he's back to playing the kind of
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ball that that I think Bennett Sturtz can play.
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One other thing, Iowa 11 and O now when Alvaro Fogaris, it's
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the double figures and he's playing his best.
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He really is. He yeah, he really is.
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That's an interesting stat. All right, boys, let me run this
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by you. There are 9 left.
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They've got 7 Big Ten wins right now.
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I'm going to give them three that they should put in the win
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column and then I'll give you one that could go either way.
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One of two Northwestern They should win right at Maryland and
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then home to NO at Penn State. Yeah, three wins.
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That's been tricky before. Yep, I agree. 11 AM, 11 AM game
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or noon game I guess since. Noon Eastern, Yeah.
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And nobody will be there. It'll be an empty gym.
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It's just there's just no feel for that game.
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Tricky. Yeah, very tricky spot that they
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should win. Should win, all right.
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And then if they win one of these two and they make like,
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obviously win or lose them both at Wisconsin and they've got a
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marquee win, obviously, and then home to Ohio State and they're
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back-to-back, if they split that, yeah, that gets them to 11
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wins in the Big 10. Are we starting to flirt with
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that sixth line in the big Dance?
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I think so. In fact, our our guy that does
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the bracketology for on three James Fletcher has him at the
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6th now. So he moved him up to the 6th
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line already. And I think that's very simple.
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And and what if, you know, what if they beat Purdue in Iowa
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City, which is possible, or Nebraska in Iowa City and they
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get Michigan, you know, they've got Michigan coming to Iowa City
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too. I mean, I think they're going to
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get one of those three teams. I don't know which one it's
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going to be, but but produce just kind of a mess right now.
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And and that'll be a sellout crowd.
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You know, I know Ben's going to be pretty excited about this
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playing in front of a sellout crowd.
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And you know, if they got Purdue, then boy, then you're
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talking about potentially 12 wins and in the Big 10 and and
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that's got to mean something. I I think that's what the I did
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The Trent will enjoy this. I did.
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I looked at the M red site yesterday where you do.
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It's that time of year. They had Iowa at 12:00 and 8:00
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and it's 6 in the Big 10 and you want to keep above that like
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that 8-9 game. Thanks for Sarah, you know, so
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you don't have to play till Thursday if you're in that sixth
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spot. I think that's, I think that's
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the goal, you know, other than maybe you know, the top 4, but
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boy, top four are going to be hard to.
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Get there. Yeah, it's probably
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unachievable. That's going to take certainly a
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lot. Hey, one final thing for me,
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Tom, over on the football side of things, Jay Norvell making
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his way back to Iowa City. He was an honorary captain and
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now coming back in an analyst role and he kind of look at Jay
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and of course think of him as a defensive player and seven
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interceptions in 1985. However, as an offensive coach,
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his teams tend to air it out a little bit more.
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You think his analyst role might be replacing Warren Ruggiero and
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helping out the passing offense? Yeah, I think that's what it's
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going to be. And I think the one of the areas
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that he coached and coached very well over the years was the wide
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receiver position. And I think that is where you're
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going to see the growth. I think Tim Lester's got a
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pretty good grasp on the on the quarterback position and coached
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quarterbacks. He's a former quarterback
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himself, but I think where you're going to see the growth
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is Jane O'vell can coach wide receivers and he's going to help
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coach butt out. And I think they'll that you're
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going to see a lot of growth from the new guys and from the
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veterans with Jay coaching that wide receiver position.
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Let's bring football back, shall we?
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We do miss it. Don't.
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Please, please. I need it back.
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Yeah. Good stuff Tom, enjoy the
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weekend. Who do you got Sunday?
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Not in football. Who wins football game?
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In in football, I'm in I'm I'm on the Seahawks side.
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I got a really good friend of mine who's a big Seahawks fan
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and I kind of think Seahawks got a chance to blow them out.
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I do too. I mean, I'm going to be betting
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a few outline Attaboy the Seahawks.
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There you go. Tom, thanks, buddy.
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Appreciate it. Talk to you next week.
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OK. Thanks guys.
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I'm not sure. The answer is yes.
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You don't have to worry about it.
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I don't. Yeah, I'm on vacation.
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Vacation boy. So let's send me out with a
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Mike Trenton, Ken, thanks for coming on.
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How are you still the calm before the storm?
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Is it starting to heat up? There's absolutely, there's
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absolutely no storm. It's sunny and 75 out here and
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we're waiting for somebody to show up at the Super Bowl.
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Is that right? So this is going to be a very,
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not a very popular Super Bowl. I mean, it's the Super Bowl,
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right? So we're going to watch,
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obviously. But where if it is a bad quote,
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bad matchup, does that affect the handle Mike?
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I don't know that it will affect the handle that much because
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it's the Super Bowl, but there's really no buzz around this game
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at all. If ever you wanted to not have
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the two weeks off in between, I think this year was the year.
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It's a good point. It really is.
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And why do you think that is? You know, we were kind of trying
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to wrap our minds around that earlier, Mike.
21:22
There are organizations that we know this is not Carolina and
21:25
Jacksonville, right? It's two at least somewhat
21:28
brands and the Patriots, a bigger brand out there though
21:31
with a lot of new faces. Any idea why you can wrap your
21:33
mind around? Isn't because nobody was talking
21:36
about them coming into the air and they were just that far off
21:38
the page that it's taken a while for people to get to know these
21:41
squads. Well, I mean, I know they were
21:45
the one seat and the 2 seeds and their respective conferences and
21:48
and Seattle did grow a brand during the Legion of Boom days.
21:53
It's not like you don't see anybody in Seahawks jerseys here
21:55
every weekend. So I don't know what depended
21:59
on, you know, it's partly Las Vegas falls because when we had
22:03
the Super Bowl here a few years ago, prices were so high to get
22:06
in and people that had been coming for 1520 years were
22:09
priced out. You know, so many hotel rooms
22:12
and that were all corporate. And I think some that people
22:15
weren't able to come that year and they found something else to
22:18
do. And maybe they just, they just
22:20
kept doing what that alternative was.
22:22
But we'll see what I mean. We're still going to have 15,000
22:25
people here between all our parties on on Sunday.
22:28
And, and by tomorrow afternoon, the place will be a buzz.
22:31
And you know, Championship Sunday was great.
22:33
So it's just I'm used to, this is my 20th Super Bowl in Las
22:37
Vegas and I'm used to Friday at this time at noon being being
22:41
buzzing already. Yeah, when you when you compare
22:43
to the others, Mike, season to season, NFL season, NFL season
22:48
was a busier NFL and college football was it which had been
22:52
growing? Did they continue that growth
22:54
pattern? What have you guys seen during
22:56
the football seasons this year? NFL and college?
23:00
NFL grew, college was in terms of betting was down about 2 1/2%
23:06
and in terms of just when we look at when we look at the the
23:12
food and beverage revenue from sports book and from stadium
23:16
swim, college was down about 889 percent this year and NFL
23:20
remained steady. So I think bad early season
23:25
matchups, we had a really bad September Saturdays where where
23:31
we fell behind with college. And then by the time really the
23:34
conference schedules picked up in, in, you know, late September
23:37
and into October, we were on par.
23:39
But we fell behind early and never really caught up and.
23:42
Bad news for Week 1 of college football next season because if
23:44
you look at 2026, week 1 stinks. There is no Ohio State, Texas
23:48
like there was a year ago. It's it's going to be ugly there
23:52
in week #1 Speaking of college football, the odds are out there
23:55
for next season. Anything that you guys have seen
23:58
a circle or anything that caught maybe your attention and your
24:01
own betting profile when you look forward to college football
24:03
for next year? No, I mean, it's just the usual
24:07
suspects. I guess The thing is
24:09
handicapping Indiana and yeah, I think you have to start there,
24:13
right. You think that he's going to be
24:15
able to, it's hard to say reload because he never loaded to begin
24:19
with. I mean, he took a lot of two
24:20
star guys and made him into a great team.
24:23
Can he do that again? That's an interesting handicap
24:26
and I think you have to really start there and then figure out
24:29
who's the best team in the Big 10 and then go from there.
24:31
We haven't. We haven't taken any any big
24:33
bets so far on college yet. Mike Pom, VP of operations at
24:38
Circus Sports, is joining us. How about big bets on Sunday,
24:41
Mike? You've said we saw one very
24:42
early, I think the day, day after, maybe Monday, not this
24:47
previous Monday, the previous one to that.
24:49
What have you seen? Any $1,000,000 bets?
24:51
Any seven figures coming in? No, we haven't we haven't even
24:54
seen any half million, any half million since then.
24:57
And I wonder, I mean, I would have told you last week that we
25:00
would have taken over under three and a half million dollar
25:03
bets this year. A couple of years ago we took
25:06
five. I don't know if we're going to
25:08
take a second one. I I really don't know.
25:11
So we'll see. Obviously it isn't going to be
25:14
enough. They don't come in on Sunday.
25:15
We don't take them that close to kick.
25:17
So they've they've got to come tonight or tomorrow if we're
25:19
going to take them. We talked earlier in the week
25:22
about Mattress Mack. I know you guys have had some
25:25
dealings with him in the past. What is that like?
25:27
And not just him, but just in general, when one of those
25:30
whales wants to make a big bet, they want to have something and
25:33
maybe they want to dictate a little bit or looking for the
25:35
best price that they can do. We always tell, as you guys do,
25:38
shop around for that best price. What is it like, though, when
25:41
you guys are dealing with the whale, Somebody that wants to
25:43
put together that significant wager?
25:46
Well, for for Mac, he has two guys out here that do all his
25:49
negotiating for Frank and Tony. So we're used to dealing with
25:54
them and they're working with all the other books and he's
25:56
trying to get the best number on whatever he wants to bed and the
25:59
most amount is the best number. And so it becomes a negotiation.
26:03
And you know, there's given give and take and they say, OK, we'll
26:06
get back to you. And and you know, sometimes he
26:08
bets with you. I mean, it just with us, the
26:11
great majority of what he was the year that the Astros lost to
26:16
the Nationals in the World Series, when he was betting the
26:18
Astros from September on almost every game he must have had must
26:23
have close to $30 million in volume with us that year.
26:26
And he's made a couple other $1,000,000 wagers.
26:31
He did make a few wagers on college football futures this
26:35
year with us that were like quarter $1,000,000 wagers that
26:39
that that didn't get there. He was pretty heavily invested
26:43
on Texas futures, so that worked out.
26:46
But yeah, we still hear from him.
26:48
And I just ran into Brett Musburger coming out of the
26:50
studio with Jeremy and he's here.
26:52
He's here for the weekend and was about to go tell the
26:54
Mattress Max story on with her and JBT.
26:56
That's. Good stuff.
26:58
Mike. How about you personally?
26:59
Did you find any props that you've that you like more than
27:02
the others from a personal perspective?
27:05
Well, so I'll give you the back story to explain each of them.
27:09
I think this is going to be a lower scoring game.
27:12
You know, I, I, I talked to my source up there with the
27:18
Vikings, who had several conversations with the Minnesota
27:21
defensive staff, including Flores, about how they would
27:25
defend the other team if they were running the defense for the
27:27
Patriots and the Seahawks. And they said if they were the
27:30
Seahawks, they try to take away everything deep and really make
27:33
May go through his progressions and beat them with short passes
27:36
and make New England try to have 14-16 play drives.
27:40
And they would do the opposite if they were New England.
27:42
They would take away everything easy for Darnold, try to make
27:45
him beat them over the top and try to create turnovers.
27:49
I think both defenses will be fine.
27:51
I also think these two coaches take points.
27:53
We've seen that throughout the year.
27:54
They don't go for it. If they have makeable field
27:57
goals, you know, when they're, you know, outside of the five
28:01
yard line, they take points. And so I think there'll be a lot
28:06
of field goals. My write up for Beeson was 1917
28:08
Seahawks. So that leads me to over 3 1/2
28:13
field goals made in the game. My favorite profit I bet is
28:17
which will be longer, the distance of the longest field
28:19
goal made or the total number of points in the game?
28:22
I took the longest field goal made -120 I took Jason Myers,
28:26
the Seattle kicker at MVP for 150 to 1.
28:28
I took a shot on that. Also with the Vikings defensive
28:32
theories I took I took in Jig Bus longest reception over 29
28:40
1/2 yards and I took Stephane Diggs over 4 1/2 reception.
28:46
I like the theory, I like the and I love the 150 to one.
28:48
Yes, that gets your attention. So 97, I'm thinking about circus
28:54
squares there. That'd be a pretty big hit at
28:56
the end of the game. What are you guys seeing with
28:58
circus squares? Of course, available also right
29:00
here in the state of Iowa. You know, this will be very
29:03
interesting as far as the trend for a game because we've we've
29:06
grown this from the first year we introduced it, what was it
29:08
five years ago from like 40,000 up to over half a million last
29:13
year. And our goal was to I think 6:50
29:15
this year. I'll be very interested to see
29:17
where that number lands because I think that will be a pretty
29:21
good barometer of the overall interest in the game.
29:25
That being said, we were the only ones doing it for a couple
29:27
years and now we've, you know, we've licensed it to several
29:30
other places. I mean, there's, there's a
29:31
couple books in town that have squares on every single NBA game
29:34
throughout the whole season. So it's, it's become an option
29:37
for everybody else. And I think people are more
29:39
familiar with them. But you know our, our pricing
29:42
is, is, is better here as well as our most.
29:44
Things and everybody at those places, a little royalty comes
29:47
circus way. Good stuff.
29:49
Let's talk Olympics. Mike, I'm on vacation next
29:51
couple of weeks and I won't be here to talk hockey with you,
29:54
you sadly during this run. The American women, I think
29:58
they're an absolute cinch to win the the gold medal.
30:00
The men, of course I'm going to lead Canada, but I would, I
30:03
think I would like to believe that.
30:05
I would see it clearly whether I was a Canadian or not.
30:08
I like Canada, I like the US and in the women.
30:11
How do you see the hockey? Sweden women to win Group B is a
30:16
lock. I gave this out at -230 Of
30:18
course, they beat Germany their first game, so now it's -370 but
30:21
they're going to win every game by three or more goals. the US
30:25
women tower above this field. They beat the Canadian women all
30:28
four times. And that series leading up, the
30:30
average score was six to two. You can still get them at minus.
30:33
Yes, you can still get the 20. Yeah, 24 to 7 with the
30:37
cumulative score of the four. Nothing was close.
30:40
Remember in 2002 in Salt Lake, the Cassie Campbell Pascal first
30:43
gold medal, the USA women had beaten the Canadian women eight
30:46
straight times, and the Canadian women won the gold medal game
30:49
32. Those eight games, every game
30:51
was one or two goals. Six of them went to OT.
30:54
It's totally different. the US is way better.
30:56
That's a lot on the men's side. On the men's side, I believe
31:03
that however they say this now, checks here or whatever, the
31:06
Czech Republic, they're good danger.
31:08
They're the most dangerous team outside of the US and Canada.
31:11
I bet them plus 750 for bronze plus $8 for silver.
31:18
You could bet any medal in case they won gold at 3:00 to 1:00.
31:21
I think they're really pesky and I'd love to see Lucas Dostal
31:24
with the team that's defense first, which is not with the
31:26
Duck. Here's here's a really
31:29
interesting market. Which Canadian goalie will have
31:32
the most minutes in net during the course of the Olympics?
31:37
So Bennington is the second choice you get.
31:40
Logan Thompson is plus 160, Bennington is plus 240 and Darcy
31:44
Kemper's 8 to 1. I think I got to take a shot
31:46
with Darcy Kemper. Here, that's not crazy.
31:49
That's not crazy. Wow, that's a that's a big
31:51
price. I didn't realize that.
31:53
And there's a chest. They've won the the junior
31:57
tournament that gets played at Christmas the last couple of
31:59
years and they beat Canada convincingly, so that country's
32:02
certainly coming. That's a good ticket.
32:04
Mike Bronze was how much? Bras is plus 750 silver's plus
32:10
$8, or if you bet them any medal, it's 3:00 to 1:00 because
32:13
you could win Gold 2 and still win.
32:15
You don't, you think? Well, the Canadian men win.
32:19
Yes, because I used to think the US has a big advantage in net,
32:22
but I I have to tell you, hella Bucks playing terrible.
32:26
I'm sure as you know, the fake ace.
32:27
I think both those guys have mental problems.
32:29
Swayman. Swayman had a good run last
32:31
year. I don't think he's the top level
32:33
goalie so I don't think the difference in net is as much.
32:35
And the Canadian skaters are better than the American.
32:37
Skaters, is there an MVP market in this?
32:40
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Sid the kid is 35 to one.
32:44
Mcdavid's the favorite at plus 7:50.
32:46
I might take a shot with Crosby because I think if things are
32:50
relatively even, he will get the like lifetime achievement nod in
32:53
that boating. It's his last Olympics, of
32:54
course he will. I couldn't agree with you more.
32:56
35 to 1. Yeah.
33:00
Good stuff. Speaking, Speaking of the
33:02
Olympics, I mean, downhill skiing, bobsled, those kind of
33:05
things. Do you guys put up numbers for
33:07
them and how do you put together a number for something like
33:10
that? Now all we're booking is hockey.
33:13
OK. Nothing else.
33:14
Nothing else. Yeah, that's the way to do it.
33:17
Yeah. Good stuff, Mike Palm, VP of
33:19
operations at Circa Sports. Mike, I hope it gets busy.
33:23
I believe it will. I believe it will.
33:25
It's the Super Bowl after all. Good stuff, Mike.
33:28
Thank you for popping on. Appreciate it.
33:30
Enjoy your weekend. Thank you, Mike Palm.
33:32
Thanks Dad, I hope all the listeners enjoy their weekend as
33:34
well. Good to talk to you.
33:35
Thank you, Mike Pom, VP of Operations, Circa Sports, circa
33:38
Illinois, circa Missouri, circa Iowa, for every year wherever
33:41
you are listening, circa Squares, it's easy to do.
33:45
You get, you get to pick your square and you get to pick your
33:48
price prior to doing that and the minimum bet is a buck.
33:52
Is the Czech Republic the same as Czech now?
33:54
I think it is OK then. I'm just looking for that price
33:58
to get a medal. Yeah, I think it is.
34:00
OK. Is it 7 1/2 to one there?
34:02
To win a medal, well, that was 3.
34:04
To 1 to win a medal. Yeah, and it's 4 to 1 actually
34:07
currently at DraftKings. OK, but Canada to win a medal
34:11
-570. Five.
34:12
Yeah, they're gonna. They're gonna win a medal.
34:13
America -400. What are the women?
34:16
All right, let's jump back over to the women's side just to
34:19
meddle. I'll be stunned if they're not
34:21
playing the Star Spangled Banner with this when the women's
34:24
hockey wraps up. And we got group winners here.
34:27
And Mike has Sweden is Ascension Group B.
34:29
Since they're already started, though, they just have group
34:32
winners right now. They don't have to meddle
34:33
anymore. OK.
34:34
So just available in the men's market?
34:36
All right, we'll let you know who we're picking, what we've
34:39
let you know for the last couple weeks.
34:40
Not a lot of drama here, but our final, our Super Bowl pick
34:43
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And then finally, the game itself, Unbelievable, all right,
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trends, our year long contest, it's over.
35:29
We have beaten, we have dispatched the boys in the
35:32
afternoon, the good guys take Year 1 prevail.
35:37
In a resounding fashion, that's pretty tight, no?
35:39
It was yeah, they they closed. That mean Sean got in a roll
35:42
there. He did.
35:43
Was he did he close eight and one or something like?
35:45
That, but the AFC and NFC Championship game, we were both
35:48
on the same side. They decided to fade the other
35:50
way. Tried to cheat and it backfired
35:52
on. Them.
35:53
Nope. I was on vacation.
35:54
I just got my pics. Didn't know what you were doing.
35:56
No chicanery here. Nope.
35:57
Not like Darryl and Gary. No losers.
35:59
A lot of that you do Big L2 to five.
36:03
You're right. Lot of chicanery.
36:05
Well, good stuff. Look, I'm picking Seattle.
36:09
Yeah, I think it could get out of hand.
36:11
I hope it's a good game. But I'm taking the Seahawks.
36:14
I'll take them to cover the four and a half.
36:15
I'm on the other side. I will take New England.
36:17
We do have something extra. You have a two game lead, so if
36:20
you're wondering the numbers, you are 5549 and two.
36:24
That is not bad. Let's say 529 win percentage.
36:29
Remember the break even number it's with the VIG it's right
36:33
around there 52.4%. If you lose this one you will
36:38
hit exactly at the VIG price 52.38% that will be your win
36:45
percentage. So if somebody asks me, well,
36:46
how'd you do this, you're not broke about even normally when
36:49
you say that you're BS. Right, absolutely did a win
36:52
though. You were over the vig on the
36:55
season. I can't quite get there.
36:56
I'd be a tick behind it. Still over 500 for both of us
37:00
this year. That's a rarity.
37:02
Yeah, that both of us are over 500.
37:04
You've taken the last two years now, though.
37:05
I have and are head to head. Going out on top.
37:07
That's right, dominating style. Although Lucas did win the
37:11
individual. I didn't even know it was a
37:13
thing to be honest. With you, it's not.
37:15
We have our own head to head right.
37:16
He won the 2:00 to 5:00. Head the two to five.
37:19
Yes, the team title goes to the good guys from noon to two.
37:23
That's right. Good stuff.
37:25
You're having a Super Bowl get together.
37:27
We are, Yep, we working on the squares.
37:30
Jack is excited. We were talking about he's going
37:32
to decorate, so he's going to draw some footballs on there,
37:35
make a little football field on the poster.
37:37
He's he's got some plans that he's going to be doing it.
37:40
We're just, you know, nudging him forward a little bit.
37:43
He loves rolling dice. He loves playing cards.
37:46
That's excellent. Parenting, right?
37:47
He does that all the time. He gets it, he understands it a
37:50
little man is understanding the way the world goes.
37:53
So I'm having some fun with that and we'll see.
37:55
And he's already asking how much money he can make on these
37:57
squares and. A boy comes by it honestly.
38:02
It reminds me very much of myself the first time I went to
38:05
the the dog track with my dad having to borrow a little money
38:08
on the way back for gas. Yeah.
38:11
Had some good times. Absolutely.
38:14
I'm with you. I had a bunch of good times at
38:16
the track. Well, that's going to do it.
38:18
You're going to take it the next couple of weeks.
38:20
I'm going to head South to South Carolina for a couple of weeks.
38:24
Never been there. Looking forward to it.
38:27
You gonna move around it all or just one spot?
38:28
I'm gonna stay in Folly Beach and then Charleston's like, I
38:33
don't know, 5 miles away. So we're gonna see that and
38:36
that, that part of the country. But I've always wanted to go
38:38
there. Don't know why I've always
38:39
wanted to go there, but I always have.
38:41
And so instead of going to California, we're going
38:43
southeast. Cross it off the bucket.
38:45
List. Cross it off the bucket list.
38:46
Hope you have good. Weather, it's gonna be colder
38:49
there than we'll be here next week, which is typical for the
38:51
Millers. Anyways, I'll talk to you in a
38:53
couple of weeks. You man the ship and hopefully
38:57
there's a lot of Cyclone and Hawkeye wins in that couple of
39:00
weeks that I'm gone. Enjoy the Super Bowl, whatever
39:03
team you are backing. It's the final football game of
39:06
the year after all. All right, the boys coming up
39:08
next, David Ickel, Lucas Strain, they will take you until 5:00.
39:11
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