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30 - SPECIAL GUEST, JESSE RUCINSKI · World Ablaze with George Fontes

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  Welcome to this special episode number 30 of World Ablaze with yours truly, George Fonz.
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  Today I have special guest Jesse Rosinski, former Marine and current host of the Jesse
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  Rizinski show. He is an independent podcaster in the news and politics category. He's known for
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  telling it like it is while backing it up with truth and actual data. We thoroughly enjoyed
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  speaking with Jesse, and I'm very confident that you'll enjoy this conversation as well.
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  So please sit back, relax, and enjoy the show.
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  okay today i have jesse razinski with me and i came across jesse when i was on good pods
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  and i was doing some promotion i came across this podcast and i started listening to it
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  come to realize that he's very similar to what we do we have similar views similar outlooks
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  and he's also an independent just like we are so i thought i would reach out and see if he would be
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  interested and just hanging out on the show and i'd like to get to know him better and let the
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  audience know him better and also just pick his brain on a few things. So welcome Jesse.
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  And we did talk a little bit earlier, but how are you doing today?
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  I'm doing, you know, I'm doing fantastic. And I appreciate the time because time is precious. So
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  it very much is very much is. And I'm glad you're here too, man. I appreciate you agreeing to do
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  this. I have some notes and whatnot that, you know, based on info that you sent me previously,
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  we had, you know, some back and forth and, you know, trying to prep for this. And if you're okay,
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  I do want to ask some questions about your background, just so we can set it up a bit.
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  So people understand where you come from and how you came to be where you're at. And one of those
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  things was the Marine Corps. And I remember you said, or you sent me anyway, the information
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  stating that you joined them back in 2006.
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  And so you achieved the rank of sergeant.
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  I believe it was E5, you said.
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  Is that correct?
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  Yes, sir.
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  Okay.
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  I was going to ask you because you, I forget the town.
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  Where were you born and raised?
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  Well, I was born in the beautiful, beautiful city of South Brunswick, New Jersey.
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  Okay.
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  And then thankfully we moved and I was raised in the much more beautiful,
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  small little town of Whitehaven, Pennsylvania, up in the Poconos.
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  It was a beautiful little place.
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  Love it.
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  Really?
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  How long were you there in that town?
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  14 years.
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  14 years.
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  So how old were you when you joined the Marines?
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  I was already, you know, swore in and set to go to boot camp before my 18th birthday.
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  But I left for boot camp two weeks after my 18th birthday.
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  Was that something like, were the Marines something specifically that you wanted to do that in your mind you already wanted to be a Marine?
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  I mean, it was one of those by Buddy Alex, who I graduated with.
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  He was already in the delayed entry program and did all that.
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  And he just happened to offer by Buddy.
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  Well, we were sitting in some computer class in high school, first period.
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  Couldn't tell he was first period.
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  I was barely even conscious, but he asked him if he wanted to join.
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  And I was like, thanks for asking me, bro.
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  And there was a good chuckle.
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  And I figured if I was going to, you know, join one, no offense to the rest of them, but I was going to go join the best and the crazy ones.
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  And yeah, my mind was pretty set, actually.
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  Pretty easy on that one.
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  It was probably the best decision, easiest decision I made my entire life.
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  Really?
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  Want to elaborate on that a little bit?
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  I mean, I must say that I had the greatest, probably one of the greatest Marine Corps recruiters of all time.
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  Shout out to Ron Krumenacker, wherever you are right now.
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  But he was a great, great salesman.
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  And it was just the amount of training, how long we do everything compared to everyone else.
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  Our distance is longer on marksmanship stuff.
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  You know, it was just, there was just more to it and it was more elaborate and the longest one that they had there.
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  And I was like, yeah, you know what?
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  I think I can, I think that fits my mentality and my temperament pretty, you know, pretty well.
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  Cause I mean, I wasn't always as laid back as I am now.
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  I still have my moments, but back then it just fit, you know, cause I was just go, go, go high energy, high testosterone, just a million miles an hour.
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  and everything that they set in front of me made complete sense and fit into all of that.
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  So no offense to the other branches of their recruiters, but they didn't sell me that well.
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  They tried.
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  Didn't work though.
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  So the demands, expectations, and basically the bar that they set really appealed to you in your personality?
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  Yes.
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  It couldn't have been any more of a perfect fit at that point in my life.
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  If I tried, minus how shy I was, but don't worry, I grew out of that too.
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  Look at me now.
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  Right.
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  Now you're a podcaster, among other things, I'm sure.
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  Man, the people in high school when I started the podcast, they're like, you started a what?
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  Like, yeah, now, right?
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  Well, we were friends for 12 years and I only said like 15 words to you.
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  Wow.
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  How long were you in the Marines total?
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  It was four years, 11 months, and 19 days.
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  I only remember the 11 months and 19 days so well because I was on med hold because I had knee issues before I deployed.
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  Okay.
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  And then I finished off my knee issue while I was in country, like halfway through it.
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  And then by the time I got back, it was just, yeah, everything was torn and blown to bejesus.
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  So yeah, I was on that hold for a while until they said I was put back together enough to go on to my future endeavors as they put it.
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  What was wrong with your knee?
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  I mean, you're okay answering that question?
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  Oh yeah, yeah.
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  I mean, to make a long story short, I first had the problem in December of 07.
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  So it was very early on just because we were running way too much.
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  They told me it was runner's knee for three months.
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  I'm like, it's still swollen.
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  I haven't run on it.
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  And, you know, so I went and deployed and did all that.
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  And then by the time I got back from the deployment, I needed a new kneecap.
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  My meniscus was shot.
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  My patella was, you know, that's done.
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  My ACL, MCL, and PCL all had like multiple partial tears in it going all the way down it.
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  and my Achilles was, it wasn't in the greatest shape,
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  which is why I now have a piece of a cadaver shin bone
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  screwed into my Achilles to keep it taut for the rest of my life
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  or until they replaced the thing.
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  But pretty much I just blew everything in there to pieces.
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  Wow.
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  I mean, long story short.
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  Yeah, it sounds like they literally rebuilt your entire knee.
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  Plus you have something there to hold your Achilles together.
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  Yep.
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  Wow. That's crazy.
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  And that was just all from the workload of running and doing what you do on the terrain every day?
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  Yeah, I mean, and my platoon wasn't, I mean, anyone that was in there, I mean, they'll comment if they listen to this.
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  We ran and ran and ran and ran some more, and we were going like 10, 15 miles a day down dark tank trails.
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  And if you've never seen a tank trail, they leave really big ruts and stuff when you can't see it.
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  Parts of your body twist and pop that shouldn't.
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  And when you're jumping up and down off of tanks all day, I mean, it was just sooner or later was going to happen.
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  And then it was amazing when it finally went out and like fully went out in Iraq.
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  Like that was one of those.
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  That was an experience.
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  There was a lot of laughter that night.
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  Don't ask me how.
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  I don't know because it sure didn't feel good.
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  But we were all laughing and that was the important part.
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  And I finished off the deployment and came back and three knee procedures later, they finally told me that my services were no longer needed.
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  Wow.
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  So just like that, they were, they were done.
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  Oh yeah.
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  Like I was supposed to get out October 23rd and they pulled me into the office on a Thursday, I believe.
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  And they're like, you're getting out the 23rd.
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  I'm like, I know.
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  And they're like, no, like the 23rd, like next week.
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  that's wow that's great how did you feel about that decision uh i mean were you ready given the
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  injuries and everything or or were you were you still wanting to to finish out your term i mean i
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  and it was one of those i was ready but i mean you can never be ready and i thought we were going to
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  work on my right knee afterwards but you know that's still an argument with the va and a whole
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  other story that we'll get into at some other time in my life but i mean it was one of those i was
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  ready for october i wasn't so ready to have it thrust upon me with like five days notice because
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  i didn't have like all my stuff like final physical my va stuff to get that started before i got out
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  like all of that was scheduled for months down the road and i couldn't move it in time and that's
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  just you know so i was but i wasn't i'm thankful though that you know that it turned out you know
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  the way it did because even though it was you know a cluster it uh it worked out you know fairly
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  good all things considered with it so so all in all you're mixed emotions yeah mixed emotions but
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  all in all you're you're okay yeah all the things but how it all went down was i mean it could have
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  been a thousand times worse i know people had it way way worse than i did with medical stuff that
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  never got fixed. So all in all, they gave me three procedures.
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  They tried to fix it three times. None of them stuck just because there was so much.
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  And, you know, that was all they could do.
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  So I took it. Didn't like it at the time, but I mean, it was going to.
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  It was one of those things, but all in all, I think it couldn't have worked out, you know,
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  any better for being moved up as much as it was.
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  well that's good to hear i was going to go back to um your deployment in iraq
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  and uh how long were you there uh just under a year we were roughly just under the 10 month mark
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  like by a couple days supposed to be there for 15 we came back after 10 thanks to the first of
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  the 82nd for coming out early they robbed me of a few months and that extra thousand bucks you get
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  every month you're there after 12. Don't worry. I still remember that.
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  Were you, um, were you deployed or did you volunteer for, for that? I mean, how did,
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  Oh, I volunteered. I volunteered to deploy. Oh, did you?
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  Cause tank battalion tank battalion, they only have, you know, there's only first tanks and
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  second tanks. I mean, at the time and second tanks doesn't even exist anymore,
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  but you know, only one company, one line company. Cause you only have H and S company and we had
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  Alpha Bravo Charlie Delta and I think we stood up Echo at that point.
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  You know, and only one line company got to deploy at a time.
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  So they asked for people to volunteer to go you know to three separate places And I just threw my hand up in the air as fast as I could to get as far away from that place Really It was because you know if I didn do it then I mean most people
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  I've known people that were there for, you know, eight years and they never got to deploy. They
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  never got to go anywhere just because, you know, it's such a small thing that there's not a lot of
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  them that get to go anywhere, especially as a mechanic, like operators, they all get to go, but
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  every line company only had a select number of mechanics and we were getting
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  so many extra mechanics, you know, like every time the school graduated a class,
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  we'd get like another 15. So we were just piling up and, you know,
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  at some point it's just not possible or feasible for you to get out.
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  So they said, who wants out?
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  And I threw both my hands in the air and I ran out those doors as fast as
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  humanly possible.
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  So you, you were, you were wanting to get deployed. Like, Oh yeah.
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  You just wanted to get away from where you're at and actually go fulfill your duties as a Marine, you know, based on how you were trained and what you were meant to do.
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  Am I correct in saying that?
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  Go do something.
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  Yeah.
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  Like I, yeah, I mean, that was like the whole goal.
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  That was one of them.
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  When, you know, I joined the Marine Corps, you know, I get to go on a deployment and, you know, just get to go actually do the thing.
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  and see things outside of the country here
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  and how everything is over there
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  and what was actually happening and all of that.
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  And again, I didn't get an option before that
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  just because there were so many people in front of me
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  to go to line companies.
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  And I was like, please.
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  And it really was to me.
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  It was just Tank Battalion.
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  Ask anyone that was there.
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  It's like the most joyous and miserable place on the planet
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  and I still love it dearly.
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  but I needed to get out of there.
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  And thankfully I actually got like out of the three,
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  I didn't get to pick which one I wanted to go on.
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  I just threw my name in the hat to go on one of them.
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  And thankfully I actually ended up on the one that I wanted out of the three.
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  So that one actually worked out really cool as well.
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  I didn't get lucky much, but that was cool.
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  So, so once you were there and your time spent there,
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  what was your experience like in Iraq at that time?
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  Uh, so surprisingly, you know, we didn't, like when we got there, like we took over from an army unit that had the base and we took over.
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  So we had like, we built a giant concrete wall and compound around us, a little village right outside the gate there.
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  Those people were bringing us food and helping us build this wall.
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  Um, you know, I mean, again, they tried to blow us up a few times.
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  Things happen, get shot at, things happen.
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  And, you know, I mean, it's a deployment. Sooner or later, those things are bound to happen. But I mean, it was just as crazy as it sounds, because, I mean, we were working. Sometimes we wouldn't get off the road until like, you know, back until like 5, 530 in the morning.
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  And then we'd immediately go into regimental PT, which I still think is really dumb to have us all together in one spot in that situation.
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  But whole other story again.
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  But we were working like sun up to way too early in the morning, six days a week.
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  And it just, it's weird to say it was like a vacation.
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  But, I mean, when you're here, you know, stateside, and you're doing it like all kinds of, you know, family, you know, all kinds of life things happen, the unexpected stuff that, you know, we all go through.
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  But that was, you know, 10 months where it was just work and then work and then work and then go on the road and then run and, you know, grab your laundry from people, you know, try to get some chow if you can.
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  And then go PT and then back to work.
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  And it was like that, you know, it was just continuous without any, you know, any crazy unexpected stuff.
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  Yeah, it's almost like you didn't have time to really take it in.
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  You know, it just kept it going.
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  Oh, yeah, we were, it was, you know, we were good.
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  But again, we were where I was.
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  You know, really wasn't having too much, you know, really just anything crazy going on.
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  which, you know, thankfully we didn't have a lot of,
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  we got into situations when we were outside of the walls,
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  but we were inside the walls. It was, you know, just,
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  we got to see the culture. We got to, you know, I mean,
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  I did get to interact with a lot of sheiks and, you know,
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  just civilians that were working, you know, on base for us and do all that.
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  So, you know, I got to do a lot of that stuff, but it was busy, busy, busy.
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  It was really hot. And I had probably some of the best time of my entire life, as odd as that might sound to some people, but never going to get that back again. It was a great time. I mean, I did my job. I did it well. And we got a lot of, I mean, we accomplished everything that we had to more than we probably had to because we were just getting volunteered to do everything.
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  And it was, it was a hell of an experience.
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  Pardon my French, but I will say that, like that was, that was amazing.
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  And it was completely different culturally, you know, all of that.
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  But sometimes you got to take it in, you know, during sandstorms, you really got to stop and sit down and think when you were just stuck inside for days on end.
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  But otherwise, yeah, I was so busy that you didn't notice anything.
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  I was going to ask you, with your experiences in interacting with different cultures and being outside of the United States, did any of that, when you came back, or even while you were there, affect your views after on how you saw things?
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  Um, I mean, the whole grand question of why are we even here thing?
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  I mean, yeah, I've had those deep conversations with that, but the people over there that,
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  you know, at least the ones, you know, whether it was the engineers that, you know, went
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  to school for that, it was their workers.
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  Cause every time they were there, if I got stuck, you know, if I got through the straw
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  for, you know, security detail and just watching them while they were there doing stuff, like,
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  i don't know it's like they were i mean as much like regular you know just regular like me like
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  when i was working a job before the marine corps like they were just there all of them like they
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  had they were just there trying to make a wage you know make money to feed their family you had
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  to try to better their lives and you know and it was really freakishly how similar we all
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  were with them that makes any sense it does i think i think it's crazy yeah i think it's crazy
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  most people you kind of come to find that humans are human like we're all we're all people we're
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  all in the in the end wanting to try to get the same thing food shelter you know safety doesn't
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  matter where you are it's all they want right and that was because i always you know thought that
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  and it was nice to go and you know actually physically get to see that with the many many
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  many you know different people that i got to work with and again it was all the way from like you
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  know higher up their sheiks all the way down to you know general laborers and for the most part
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  I mean, we all just sat there and laughed and, you know, talked about our families and, you know, just basic stuff.
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  And that was probably the best part about all of that because you always hear all kinds.
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  No matter where you go, you hear all the noise that people make about it.
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  But generally, no matter where I've been, everyone just wants the same thing.
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  And there's no hard feelings towards us.
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  You know, they all had their views on everything was before all of that.
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  But there was no hard feelings towards us.
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  I just wanted to break bread, have lunch, have laughs, go home to their families and repeat.
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  And I really, I appreciated that more than anything.
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  So it was, uh, it's not like you ran into a lot of individuals necessarily that had extreme views and were promoting violence and whatnot while you were deployed.
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  I mean, obviously we were there for a reason, but in your experience, that wasn't like the day in and day out for you.
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  Yeah, I didn't – it wasn't at all.
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  The only bad times I had to worry about those people is when we were on the aptly named Graveyard.
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  That was the name of the road.
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  That was – and we always ran into some of those type people that made things kind of interesting at 3.30 in the morning.
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  Wow.
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  Especially – I don't want to know why they named the – I mean, I know why.
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  We all know why they named the graveyard.
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  you know that was and i never actually had to deal with any of those people but all the
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  you know civilian base they were all really actually good honest people and i respected
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  all of them for it because it proved what i thought about you know humanity as you know
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  a whole most of us just want the same things and yeah but that was that's good to hear that's good
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  to hear from you because i you know when you're when you're cut off you know as you know living
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  in America, we're all, a lot of people just only believe what they're told or being reported
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  about, right?
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  And you're led to believe, you know, this person bad, that person evil, America's the
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  enemy to the world, et cetera.
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  And it's always good to hear someone else's perspective actually has been out there and
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  to bring back testimony of, well, you know, people are people.
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  We all kind of want the same things.
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  It's unfortunate these conflicts happen and we're all caught in the middle of it.
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  but I think the average person would rather not be in those conflicts
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  whatsoever.
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  Exactly.
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  It's good to hear.
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  I've got to be honest.
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  It's good to hear what you had to say about that.
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  And it wasn't, you know, fortunately for you, not all gloom and doom.
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  Yeah.
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  I got lucky.
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  I got the one that I wanted.
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  I got sheer luck and everything was, it was what you'd hope it, yeah,
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  to be.
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  with the civilian base, everything.
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  And it was touching to see it.
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  What year did you, I don't know, you probably said it,
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  but what year did you get out of the Marines?
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  2011.
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  Okay, 2011.
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  That's when you got out.
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  I don't know, were you always, this question I'm kind of trying to set this up,
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  were you always a conservative leaning in your views before you deployed?
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  Yeah.
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  Okay.
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  Oh, yeah.
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  After coming back and experiencing what you did,
• 23:40
  did it change anything about your views?
• 23:43
  As far as, you know, when you came back to the United States to live back as a back here as a civilian.
• 23:49
  I mean, it's just.
• 23:51
  I think emboldened is the best word.
• 23:54
  My feelings towards, you know, the machine, as I like to call it.
• 23:58
  Yeah, the machine.
• 23:59
  Some people call it a swamp.
• 24:02
  Some people call it whatever.
• 24:02
  I just call it the big machine that keeps chugging and promoting all this.
• 24:08
  And, you know, all you got to do is turn that stuff off and just go talk to people.
• 24:13
  I was going to go into one of the stories that you were telling me earlier.
• 24:20
  So you come back, you know, your experience was good.
• 24:23
  You survived.
• 24:24
  Everything was fine.
• 24:26
  You come back.
• 24:26
  And on, I believe this is after you came back, on a Thanksgiving,
• 24:30
  you got hit by a truck.
• 24:32
  But as a pedestrian, you weren't in a car.
• 24:34
  You got hit walking.
• 24:35
  Is that correct?
• 24:37
  Yes, sir.
• 24:38
  What the heck happened there?
• 24:40
  Thanksgiving Eve
• 24:43
  2019
• 24:45
  my last thought
• 24:48
  that I remember
• 24:49
  was man it's way too muggy
• 24:52
  out here for me to be walking right now
• 24:53
  I should turn around at the fountain
• 24:56
  right here at the beginning of my
• 24:57
  neighborhood
• 24:58
  well it turns out
• 25:01
  I didn't turn around
• 25:03
  and thankfully
• 25:06
  I don't remember
• 25:06
  actually
• 25:08
  getting hit.
• 25:11
  My blessings for
• 25:13
  that one, but it was a
• 25:15
  full-sized white
• 25:17
  Chevy Silverado
• 25:19
  going approximately, they said, 65.
• 25:22
  That sent
• 25:23
  me into orbit.
• 25:25
  So you got hit
• 25:27
  walking by a car going
• 25:29
  65 miles an hour.
• 25:31
  Yep, big old white Silverado.
• 25:33
  Big old thing. Was it dark?
• 25:35
  Right in the hip. Boggy?
• 25:36
  like how it was how was it that this person not saw you how i i have no idea i only got mixed
• 25:46
  things you know stories from from people that you know well the one person that actually stuck around
• 25:54
  when i got hit and she really i can say when she tried to like you know tell me the story she was just more tearing up and thankful that her and her husband stopped because they were right there when they saw it
• 26:12
  And they stopped and she pulled my head out of the road because anyone that's ever been here in Jacksonville knows that anyone sees anything like that, they're not stopping to help.
• 26:21
  They're hauling the mail so they don't get stuck in traffic behind everything when it stops.
• 26:25
  and she was lucky enough to go and pull my you know head out of the road because she said she
• 26:31
  only looked up and just saw as my oh no as i was hurled down the road uh thankfully she didn't but
• 26:41
  all the cameras were like no one could actually pick any of it up and i've never talked to the
• 26:46
  person that did it so and no one else stuck around to even say anything so i'm kind of
• 26:54
  i'm grateful that i don't have to know i've wondered many many many times how you know
• 27:04
  it happened because i mean i crossed i crossed that i crossed that intersection i mean there
• 27:10
  times I was crossing the intersection like six times a day you know just you know walking back
• 27:17
  and forth because I used to just do that all the time hit myself you know in a reasonable size
• 27:23
  besides round which by the way is my current you know size but I don't know what happened but I know
• 27:30
  oh I know everything from that moment on just kept getting more unfathomable and
• 27:37
  unbelievable and then there are shades of ridiculous
• 27:41
  and somehow I laughed through it all like I really I don't understand how I found everything
• 27:47
  so funny but I think that was just the mere fact of when I finally you know like snapped to
• 27:52
  I was like they told me what happened I was in the wriggle my toes I'm like
• 27:57
  that shouldn't be like that because they told me what happened like something that big was going
• 28:04
  that fast hit me directly in my left hip and i went flying like i scorpioned when i hit the
• 28:09
  asphalt on my face wow and neck was fine spine ended up being fine like i broke my pelvis in
• 28:15
  three pieces that didn't feel good by the way but like i was sitting there like well my legs still
• 28:22
  move i mean they hurt but and i was just grateful that uh i mean it's very cliche to say i got a
• 28:30
  second chance, but I stand firm on there's not a, there's no reason why, you know, shouldn't be
• 28:40
  still in that wheelchair that they gave me or, you know, even worse off from what happened.
• 28:46
  Well, based on what you're saying, I mean, you got hit at 65 miles an hour, flew scorpion on the
• 28:52
  floor or the pavement. And the only thing that really happened was you broke your pelvis in a
• 28:57
  few places your back was fine um yeah you're lucky you're not freaking paralyzed yeah uh how long was
• 29:05
  how long was your recovery you know from from um shattering your pelvis basically like how long
• 29:10
  i mean how long should it have taken compared to how long the va made it take i mean within i mean
• 29:19
  this is with eight screws holding everything together by the way i did not know that they
• 29:24
  made screws long enough surgical to go from one side of your hip straight through the other
• 29:28
  it turns out they really do and it looks really cool in x-ray um but i think i was like
• 29:36
  by like the end of the first week when they're like don't lift anything don't do this don't do
• 29:41
  that and god bless them i mean i shouldn't have been but by the end of that like my friends were
• 29:47
  coming to check on me and they had to get the garbage out of like the garage and my buddy dave
• 29:52
  you know god bless him yeah good old master guns patterson now but he was like pulled the pin
• 30:00
  left the garage like what pin and then there i was hurling like 50 pound bags like cat litter
• 30:05
  out of my way they're like you shouldn't be doing that like i know but i was up there i was taking
• 30:11
  care of myself i was cooking for myself i was doing laundry i was doing all that within like
• 30:15
  a week and a half really and and they got me you know x-rays done within a month
• 30:23
  and they're i mean that was through the va but the va couldn't get me into an actual doctor
• 30:31
  you know to clear any to get me actually cleared out of the wheelchair so i mean that took
• 30:36
  i want to say
• 30:39
  month and a half two months for them to finally like get me out of it out of it the wheelchair
• 30:46
  um but they'd like looked at the x-rays and they're like i mean everything looks healed
• 30:52
  within a month again it took them forever to get me anywhere but again the beginning of 2020
• 30:59
  depending on where you were things started getting a little dumb so so that did you heal
• 31:06
  certainly did you heal correctly like do you have any issues oh yeah i mean thanks to
• 31:13
  you know everything that because i i mean again pelvis was broken three places uh broke
• 31:22
  my middle finger on my right hand except in the middle of my hand like in my palm there that they
• 31:27
  never like reset which i still find weird because they're like you have to because i had to press
• 31:31
  myself up to get in and out the wheelchair and really do anything with a broken hand that was
• 31:35
  weird but uh that my nose is broken in two spaces thankfully they didn't have to straighten it
• 31:41
  because it stayed aligned when it broke twice and i got a half tooth and i got a half tooth
• 31:46
  it still looks awesome whenever i smile um but i mean i read i partially tore some more ligaments
• 31:54
  in my knee and i finally finished off my lcl so that's got all kinds of tears in now just from
• 31:59
  the bend they said when my leg came down but so i mean my left leg's normally on average from like
• 32:06
  knee down like an extra like three inches than my right leg all the time you know without doing
• 32:12
  anything so i mean that's a lasting effect which doesn't feel good like at all but again because
• 32:21
  of my knee they told me that i needed a replacement when i was 22 and i was never gonna run again so
• 32:27
  I mean, it's not like this took that away from me.
• 32:31
  It's just a lot of pain and swelling.
• 32:33
  And, you know, I know my limits.
• 32:35
  I then push my limits.
• 32:38
  But who doesn't?
• 32:40
  You know, that's the worst thing is just swelling.
• 32:42
  I mean, I had, that was my second traumatic brain injury because I did get one, you know, overseas.
• 32:49
  But that was, that had nothing to do with getting blown up or anything.
• 32:53
  That was just a crazy person.
• 32:55
  so but i had that and i didn't you know i have my migraines are a little worse
• 33:01
  you know but and i had crazy like directional vertigo like that would just come out of nowhere
• 33:10
  that was really that lasted for like non-stop i'd say for two years or so after it like where
• 33:18
  i'd be fine for a while then i'd have like you know 245 pound dumbbells over my head and i'd be
• 33:22
  laying back and then suddenly everything would start spinning on me.
• 33:24
  That was kind of, that was kind of uncomfortable for a while,
• 33:28
  but otherwise everything's perfectly fine.
• 33:30
  I don't know how, again, by the grace of someone, you know,
• 33:34
  someone out there was looking out for me.
• 33:36
  Yeah. Sounds like after everything that happened, I mean, you were,
• 33:41
  seems that you were obviously meant to still be here.
• 33:43
  I said second chance when I could, like I snapped too,
• 33:46
  I wriggled my toes from my blood. I'm good.
• 33:48
  Like there's like, I was cracking jokes.
• 33:51
  the nurses and the doctor were looking at uh my friend that came to see me they're like giving
• 33:56
  she's like i don't know what that's normal that's him like oh i thought that was a head injury
• 34:00
  he's like no man he's good you'll know if he's not good and i walked away way more unscathed than
• 34:08
  i ever should have been the no surgery was a little weird you know that's had some uh
• 34:14
  lasting effects with some like drainage and stuff but i mean if the worst that came out of it was
• 34:20
  my legs swollen my hip hurts and my drainage is a little weird i mean that's one of those
• 34:26
  blessings that's a second chance and that's when i started really i pushed my foot to the pedal
• 34:33
  on getting the podcast thing going and doing all that's like why because i always talked about it
• 34:37
  i never did it so did did that second chance that second chance motivate you to get into podcasting
• 34:44
  is is that what caused you oh it motivated me to finally it caused me to finally actually do it
• 34:49
  Cause I was talking about it for, you know, forever.
• 34:53
  Then it took me, you know, a while after recovery and all that to finally, you know, just cause COVID pushed back them fixing my nose.
• 35:03
  So, you know, and that was kind of awkward trying to, you know, talk and breathe and all that.
• 35:09
  Cause I mean, it was kind of janky, I guess is the best way to put it.
• 35:13
  But it finally, you know, it pushed me to do, to finally actually do it.
• 35:17
  Cause I was like, I mean, theoretically speaking with that accident, I shouldn't even be here to have, you know, the opportunity to do it.
• 35:27
  So I wasn't, uh, I wasn't letting the, the opportunity go to waste this time.
• 35:33
  With, so with all that being said, you, your longest running podcast, your baby, as you said, is the Jesse Rosinski show.
• 35:43
  Yes, sir.
• 35:44
  What led to you wanting to actually get into podcasting, first of all, and secondly, and
• 35:50
  we kind of talked about this before we started recording this, why politics?
• 35:56
  Because it's kind of a narrow space, you know, and it's kind of taboo.
• 36:01
  People don't want to really talk about it, but yet it's one of the bigger categories
• 36:05
  there is out there.
• 36:07
  What led you to want to podcast and specifically get into the political space?
• 36:12
  in podcasting? Well, see, cause you know, when I was growing up, like we all have like, you know,
• 36:22
  our parents and we have another people that we call mom and dad, you know, our friends,
• 36:26
  parents down the road, we had all that. And, you know, they were always like every night,
• 36:30
  just local news followed by, you know, I don't remember what, and I think they watched the local
• 36:35
  news twice and then they'd turn on and, you know, I know it might be taboo to say his name now,
• 36:40
  but you know the o'reilly factor was there you know there was bill saying his thing and he'd
• 36:45
  watch but he was watching like everybody across everything just to get you know the perspective
• 36:49
  of all the different ones i could just see a bunch of their faces from the other networks i just can't
• 36:54
  tell you any of their names and i mean who doesn't remember bill o'reilly i mean honestly i mean i
• 36:59
  definitely remember bill o'reilly yeah he was a big name but so sorry world but i can't remember
• 37:06
  anyone on the other networks it was a long time ago but um you know it was always just
• 37:12
  you know we always had conversations about that like type of stuff even growing up
• 37:17
  and about the local politics and you know then obviously the military i mean
• 37:22
  everything from that all the way down to coaching little league here
• 37:27
  yeah in north carolina when i did that like that even had its own set of politics like politics
• 37:32
  really, I mean, touches every aspect of your life. And I wanted to, you know, and I didn't
• 37:41
  really think that the news media was giving anyone like a fair swing at things, no matter which way
• 37:50
  it was, you know, because everything's so biased and skewed one way, no matter what. Everyone,
• 37:55
  you know can admit to that i think um and again it was just everything and i saw like
• 38:02
  like all kinds of you know between my liberal friends who i still miss dearly they didn't die
• 38:13
  anyone they just stopped talking to me and think we weren't even talking politics when they did that
• 38:17
  they just vanished one day but you know it was just i didn't think there was enough you know
• 38:21
  conversations about, you know, what was actually in like the bills and what was actually happening
• 38:28
  out there. And I've, you know, even through everything, tried to stay, you know, up to date
• 38:34
  on a lot of it. And I still like, you go through my phone right now, like my files is just filled
• 38:39
  up with so many bills and all kinds of stuff in there. Like I just always been my thing. And I
• 38:44
  didn't think that there was really a lot of fair shticks out there like that's the nicest most
• 38:52
  pleasant way to put that and i wanted to just you know put what i knew out there to people because
• 38:57
  i figured it was you know a better way to grow out of you know all that because i really was just an awkward shy kid And I keep telling everyone now my body might not be able to be in the Marine Corps but
• 39:09
  if this mind right here, like in my mentality now was there back then, like I would have
• 39:16
  been like super Marine.
• 39:18
  Like I would have been fan.
• 39:19
  Like I was just always shy and awkward and it helped me come out of that bubble too by
• 39:22
  doing this.
• 39:23
  It's, it's always, if I knew then what I knew now, right?
• 39:26
  Yeah.
• 39:27
  like if i just had i tell everyone like wow like any regrets that i wasn't like mentally here then
• 39:34
  you know it takes time to grow out of that stuff and you know i just wanted to give and i didn't
• 39:40
  think there was enough you know you know little guys out there in the podcasting world because
• 39:45
  again like we were talking before like all they have to do is stop being a senator you know stop
• 39:50
  playing a sport and they automatically you know just start one and bang they have millions of
• 39:54
  use right there without any real credibility in the space you know yeah it's they just have a
• 39:59
  famous name and then there you go yeah yeah and i just didn't think that especially conservatives
• 40:04
  i didn't think we you know had a fair spot in the marketplace per se yeah because there's a lot more
• 40:12
  on the other side than there is you know us in my opinion especially indie ones and again and you
• 40:19
  know really just helped me come out of my shell helped me express everything that i was reading
• 40:23
  And I figured even if I can only, you know, help inform or change your one person's mind,
• 40:28
  just by reading these things to them, then I'm doing something better for, you know,
• 40:34
  the world.
• 40:35
  And it was better than holding all these thoughts in my head.
• 40:37
  Cause I have a lot of thoughts, right?
• 40:41
  A lot.
• 40:43
  It's a, you do.
• 40:45
  It's never ending.
• 40:47
  I can, I can say that, um, I'm a person whose mind is constantly spinning and, and it's,
• 40:52
  It's good to get those thoughts out.
• 40:54
  I think I can relate with you there for sure.
• 40:58
  And I also find in this space that the problem with politics is it's always treated as taboo.
• 41:06
  But as you said, and I completely agree, if you ignore it, it's going to eat you.
• 41:10
  Because politics literally, if you let it, decides your fate.
• 41:17
  If you don't pay attention to what's happening, you're going to suffer the consequence.
• 41:21
  you really are and i think that you're right there isn't enough independent voices in this space to
• 41:29
  get out you know opposing opinions and present facts and whatnot and it seems like it's a very
• 41:36
  one-sided um category in the podcasting space or in the media in general as you said there's
• 41:41
  it's mostly democrat democratically led or liberal-minded podcasts or or news outlets and
• 41:48
  whatnot. But the problem with that is, and I've said this many times, and I want to know if you
• 41:55
  think the same thing, that most people in their day-to-day lives are so busy paying the bills,
• 42:02
  figuring out what they're going to feed their kids for dinner, whatever they got on their plate,
• 42:06
  that the only thing they know is the headline. And they don't take the time to go past the
• 42:11
  headline to know what's really going on. Point in case is fast forward and here we are.
• 42:16
  maybe this is a good segue i wasn't gonna do this yet but here we are with all the sudden
• 42:21
  everybody realizes joe biden has an issue when realistically his entire presidency he's had this
• 42:28
  issue it's just nobody was paying attention because the average person doesn't read past
• 42:34
  the headline they just take everything for face value and what i noticed from listening to your
• 42:38
  show is you kind of go past that you're like no there's more to that story here's some facts
• 42:44
  here's what's happening
• 42:46
  and guess what I got this from a government website
• 42:48
  and I do the same thing it's funny
• 42:50
  how much you can find on actual government websites
• 42:52
  because they have to report that information
• 42:53
  they just don't tell you they do
• 42:56
  but they have to they have to expose it to the public
• 42:58
  it's funny how many people
• 43:01
  don't realize that
• 43:02
  and then when you hit them with these facts
• 43:04
  they're in disbelief
• 43:06
  they're like there's no way you're talking nonsense
• 43:08
  it's ridiculous
• 43:11
  I get yelled at a lot
• 43:14
  And I'm like, bro, it's from like the CBP's website.
• 43:18
  Like go on Google.
• 43:20
  Right?
• 43:22
  Type in CBP and then whatever you're looking for, Google will do you the favor of pulling the exact page.
• 43:28
  So you just have to click and it's in front of your face.
• 43:31
  I mean, that is the magic of living in today's world.
• 43:34
  It takes nine seconds.
• 43:35
  Whoever would have thought back, because I pick on my girlfriend all the time because she's younger than me.
• 43:39
  You know, she's from the phone generation.
• 43:41
  like whoever would have thought that you know i had to go you know drive 15 minutes to get to the
• 43:46
  library to go through the thing to find the card to see what shelf the book is on just so i can go
• 43:52
  find anything out all you people have to do is just pull up that thing that's in your hand 24 7
• 43:58
  and people are less informed now isn't that crazy and i remember that like if you went to the library
• 44:04
  you wanted to find the information you had to go out of your way to find the information
• 44:09
  okay and that was an affirmation of of your thirst for knowledge and truth in whatever discipline you
• 44:16
  were looking to be educated in for example and now you're absolutely correct everything's at
• 44:22
  your fingertips and it feels like in today's time and it just maybe because i'm getting older but it
• 44:28
  feels like we're getting dumber yes let's not say dumb let's say more ignorant because
• 44:34
  the information's there, they're just choosing
• 44:38
  not to be educated in it. You know, they're choosing not to take that
• 44:42
  information and educate themselves. And like I said, it was all by design.
• 44:46
  That's all I'm going to say about that. And I'm sure you and I will get into that
• 44:49
  another time. It's all so easy. Oh yeah, say it's just so easy, but
• 44:53
  they've just polarized. They've done a
• 44:57
  damn good job. Again, pardon that French, but they've done a
• 45:00
  they've done a good job at polarizing everything.
• 45:05
  Most people don't even care to look.
• 45:08
  And everything is so team-based.
• 45:10
  You're waving your pom-poms for your team.
• 45:12
  You believe in the headline and the talking points.
• 45:16
  And they're literally not hiding the data,
• 45:19
  but they're definitely not telling you where to look.
• 45:22
  And they take everything for truth.
• 45:26
  And it's crazy.
• 45:27
  So that being said, let's move forward a little bit.
• 45:30
  And I want to get your thoughts on what you think of this current 2024 presidential election.
• 45:37
  I'll go and I'll start with the, to the debate topic there, just really quick.
• 45:43
  Okay.
• 45:45
  Man, I beat Medicaid.
• 45:48
  You sure did.
• 45:49
  I beat it.
• 45:51
  That was, but yeah, like that's this, just the Joe Biden and he has a problem thing that you brought up earlier.
• 45:58
  I think it's amazing that literally leading up to it, all of the talking heads were talking about he's been preparing for a week and he's so sharp and he has nothing wrong with him and all that.
• 46:07
  And then, you know, as they're all spending time with him, they all see this.
• 46:10
  And that comes from talking heads on, you know, all the networks to everyone in his administration, all of them.
• 46:15
  And then that happens and suddenly they're all going, I didn't know there was anything wrong with him.
• 46:20
  Like, but he didn't just suddenly turn into that in a three, like, no.
• 46:25
  and people are just taking it for face value, which just irritates me to death.
• 46:29
  Like that doesn't happen.
• 46:30
  Like we've all been telling, like we've been saying this for years,
• 46:34
  but that's all I'm going to say about that certain thing.
• 46:37
  It's been there.
• 46:38
  It's obvious.
• 46:39
  I wish people didn't just yell at us for years.
• 46:43
  And again, whenever I bring it up with people through the years,
• 46:46
  again, I had the TB and traumatic brain injury, wicked concussion,
• 46:50
  spider web, the slab of concrete at the back of my head in Iraq,
• 46:53
  whole long thing we can get into that later that was fun um but then i had the second one when i
• 46:59
  got run over and like what i have like you know vertigo and you know memory issues at times right
• 47:07
  my train of thought's gone what i'm saying this from someone that you know has had
• 47:11
  enough severe concussions you know just at my age like i know what cognitive impairment looks like
• 47:18
  and that's it that's not me coming from it as like a mean human being like i do have you know
• 47:24
  some twitchy things memory issues what i got all you again vertigo that kicks in out of nowhere like
• 47:29
  i i know what it looks like and i would just get like roasted that i'm just being this i'm sure
• 47:35
  you've had it where you just get yelled at because you're this that and the other thing it's like no
• 47:38
  i actually have some what i i know what to look for i know the signs and that's what's been
• 47:43
  presenting this whole time. And also dear people of Scranton,
• 47:47
  stop letting them use you as a prop.
• 47:50
  Yeah, I agree. That's, that's,
• 47:52
  he hasn't lived there in 80 years and I can say from experience,
• 47:56
  the city is a pit of what it used to be the end.
• 48:02
  Moving on to the rest of the debate.
• 48:04
  I'm just going to say that from, you know, the orange Godzilla, Hitler.
• 48:09
  Yeah.
• 48:09
  I still love that Greg Gottfeld coined that one day. I mean,
• 48:11
  I don't watch them, but I saw that clip.
• 48:13
  I was like, yeah, that actually is kind of how they built him up.
• 48:17
  But, you know, I thought he.
• 48:20
  They built him up that way.
• 48:21
  Yeah.
• 48:21
  Yep.
• 48:21
  Like, and then Greg's like, what, they made him the Orbs Godzilla Hitler.
• 48:24
  I'm like, that's actually pretty good.
• 48:26
  You should put that on coffee mug.
• 48:27
  You know what?
• 48:28
  And then they would buy it.
• 48:29
  Instant classic.
• 48:30
  but um you know i thought he did what he needed to do in their first debate back in 2020 i don't
• 48:42
  know if any of you remember it i do as i was sitting there just yelling shut up the whole
• 48:46
  entire time because he didn't let joe talk he was just you know where's hunter and he was just on
• 48:50
  the attack the whole time agreed yeah and i thought i was like what what that but right there
• 48:57
  Like you just, all those independents that were on the fence that were like, it's his attitude.
• 49:03
  You just proved everything that they've ever said about you.
• 49:06
  And now you lost them.
• 49:07
  They're not going to vote for you this time around.
• 49:10
  I think he did, you know, apparently someone told him when I was yelling years ago, he acted like an adult and he just, you know, did his thing.
• 49:18
  He shut his mouth.
• 49:20
  And I think that really, that was a big win.
• 49:23
  Nevermind everything, you know, all the, everything that came out of it.
• 49:27
  My big takeaway is he acted like an adult the whole time.
• 49:30
  And I think that helped him with the independent people that were somehow still on the fence about everything.
• 49:35
  Cause you know, I mean, it's just been year after year.
• 49:37
  They're just butchering the man.
• 49:38
  You know, he hasn't gotten a break the whole time, but I think he did a good job, uh, holding it together.
• 49:43
  I'll say he was much better this time around.
• 49:45
  And I think that mission accomplished.
• 49:48
  I think that, I think that it was a smart move, um, on his part.
• 49:52
  the the thing about biden is yes he's always been that way and the only people that have been
• 50:00
  talking about it were those that weren't towing the line for the democratic party because we were
• 50:05
  paying attention the issue that the media has in trying to hide you know their support and
• 50:11
  apologize for their position is because there's only a few times that people in america pay
• 50:16
  attention to politics and one of them is the presidential election and now all of a sudden
• 50:20
  and everyone stops to watch when they usually don't.
• 50:23
  And now everybody's like, what in the hell is going on?
• 50:27
  Is this real?
• 50:28
  Yep.
• 50:28
  Yeah, it's been real for over four something years.
• 50:31
  Before he was even elected.
• 50:33
  Well over.
• 50:33
  Yeah.
• 50:34
  He's been a politician for his whole life, for one.
• 50:38
  He still shouldn't even be serving the American people,
• 50:41
  in my opinion, at this point.
• 50:43
  But again, as you would say,
• 50:44
  conversation to have at another time, I'm sure.
• 50:48
  But Trump did the right thing
• 50:49
  because by doing what he did, and I don't know if this was under advisement,
• 50:53
  he literally just let Biden expose himself.
• 50:57
  That's all he had to do the first time.
• 50:59
  Because independents, they're not going to watch another one.
• 51:01
  No, they watched the first one.
• 51:02
  They went, whoa.
• 51:04
  And, you know, I mean, I think it's going to be must-see TV
• 51:06
  if they actually do another one.
• 51:08
  I mean, I know they agreed to more.
• 51:09
  God knows if we're going to see any.
• 51:10
  But I think he, I don't know who told him to shut up,
• 51:14
  but God bless that man for actually finally,
• 51:18
  because he tried it last time in the second debate,
• 51:21
  but it was too late.
• 51:22
  All those independents were like, nope, he's a monster.
• 51:24
  This time, he went in and acted like an adult,
• 51:28
  and he said, let's not act like children.
• 51:30
  You're a child.
• 51:31
  And that was amazing that he actually said that to Joe Biden.
• 51:36
  Like, let's not act like children.
• 51:38
  You're a child.
• 51:38
  Yep, debate over.
• 51:40
  Right.
• 51:41
  But he dotted his I's, he crossed his T's,
• 51:44
  he did everything he had to do.
• 51:45
  So I think that's...
• 51:47
  He was definitely poised, confident, and intelligent.
• 51:49
  And he came off that way absolutely over Joe Biden.
• 51:55
  Do you...
• 51:57
  Well, let me switch things up.
• 52:00
  I was going to ask you one question, but I'm going to go to what you've mentioned before.
• 52:04
  Yeah.
• 52:04
  and texting back and forth.
• 52:07
  And this ties into this question,
• 52:09
  or at least what I'm going to talk about.
• 52:11
  You know, what killed me about the debate
• 52:13
  was the media right away tried to say
• 52:16
  Trump lied 32, 34 times, 400 times.
• 52:20
  But the interesting thing that everybody missed
• 52:22
  while everybody was trying to push that rhetoric
• 52:25
  is CNN literally fact-checked Joe Biden
• 52:28
  right after the debate
• 52:29
  and exposed how much he actually lied.
• 52:32
  and one of those you had you're sensitive to was his whole not one service person died under my
• 52:39
  you know under my presidency and of course afghanistan the disaster which oh that that's
• 52:45
  when i had to leave the house oh i i mean please elaborate on on how you feel about that yeah
• 52:51
  oh i was i was i don't know like hannah was in hannah was there because she actually wanted to
• 52:57
  watch the debate this time and i was just sitting there kind of just you know and just holding on
• 53:03
  to my hair and then he said that and i started i was like let me there you go right what if that
• 53:09
  doesn't prove anything's wrong with him right there i mean 13 of them right after he took office
• 53:15
  in a coordinated attack that they knew when it was going to happen and where it was going to happen
• 53:20
  and it still happened.
• 53:23
  And then 13 people didn't get to go home
• 53:26
  to their families
• 53:28
  over just sheer and utter incompetence.
• 53:33
  And the only person that actually called
• 53:35
  for any accountability,
• 53:37
  because there hasn't been any,
• 53:39
  I'm pretty sure it was Lieutenant Colonel Schiller.
• 53:41
  That was his name, right?
• 53:42
  And we all saw how that worked out for him,
• 53:44
  but he's doing well now.
• 53:46
  Apparently he's making lots of money talking,
• 53:48
  but I thought that him saying
• 53:49
  And that was the biggest slap in the face, disrespect like ever.
• 53:52
  Cause all of us that served, like I tried to go to Afghanistan.
• 53:56
  They're like, no, bro, you've been here for 10 months.
• 53:59
  You're going home.
• 53:59
  We're going to take the new guys that got here halfway through the deployment.
• 54:02
  I'm like, well, screw the new guys.
• 54:04
  I want to go.
• 54:06
  I did not win that argument as a, you know, as a Lance corporal.
• 54:09
  Didn't win that one.
• 54:11
  I tried, but I know a lot of people that went, my friend, Alex, that I mentioned earlier
• 54:14
  that got me to join.
• 54:15
  He was there and lost, you know, one of his best friends.
• 54:18
  he was the best man at his wedding like we all know someone that went there and did not come back
• 54:22
  home and the way that they left with their tail between their legs and just gave everything right
• 54:28
  back over i mean we saw it happening on tv for what weeks before you know everyone seemed to wake
• 54:34
  up to it but i know a lot of people that were feeling you know the same way when you know
• 54:39
  everything happened to iraq and the state that it's in now you know all of us that lost people
• 54:44
  you know i felt that we were at least you know we had some feeling of something like it was
• 54:49
  like we were all texting each other when afghanistan was falling apart just in disbelief
• 54:54
  and there's a lot of anger there's a lot of tears there's a lot of all of that just to see all of it
• 54:59
  literally quite literally be for absolutely nothing and to see him say that oh i had to
• 55:08
  leave the house so i called my you know master guns patterson i called his wife because he doesn't
• 55:12
  answer his phone and I knew they'd have it on because they live down in San Diego right now.
• 55:16
  And I listened to it through speakerphone while I was outside because I was pretty
• 55:23
  salty. It was a complete disaster how that was handled beyond, beyond a disaster.
• 55:33
  And it was, it was basically just slapping America in the face. I mean, everyone who served and died
• 55:38
  and the money we spent, everything that we did
• 55:42
  to try to stabilize that area.
• 55:45
  And in the end, he just dismisses it all with one action
• 55:51
  and an extremely offensive action at that.
• 55:57
  That's a very nice way of putting it.
• 55:59
  I don't have that nice of a vernacular
• 56:02
  when it comes to that situation.
• 56:04
  Well, I usually have more choice words
• 56:07
  So I'm kind of holding back a bit on this one, but.
• 56:10
  I mean, you heard, you heard.
• 56:13
  I've gone.
• 56:14
  I've heard a few.
• 56:15
  That happened.
• 56:16
  Go back and find that one.
• 56:18
  I couldn't even tell what that was the first time back when I still posted them on like
• 56:22
  YouTube, you know?
• 56:25
  And when I was doing, you know, everything back then was still all through anchor where
• 56:28
  I didn't even think to look and say, is there explicit content?
• 56:31
  I didn't even think to hit yes.
• 56:33
  and within like 30 seconds of it going up they're like yeah about that and they put that banner on
• 56:39
  there themselves i'm like yeah i lost track so that's funny i was oh my but that was again
• 56:45
  that happened all the money the taliban's much better arm now at least they were they're selling
• 56:52
  so much of it off but like we actually left it in worse shape than we absolutely absolutely
• 56:58
  Taliban 2.0, they're business people.
• 57:01
  That's why they're selling it all off to Hamas.
• 57:05
  Those weapons have ended up proven in Hamas's hands
• 57:08
  and other terrorist organizations.
• 57:10
  You know what, they just sold it all to them,
• 57:11
  so now it's all of our stuff.
• 57:13
  I don't know if you – I almost – like I tried one time,
• 57:17
  but I didn't want to get thrown off of TikTok.
• 57:19
  I know, hey, don't be all you want, people.
• 57:22
  It gets me to interact with actually at least a few people too,
• 57:27
  which helps pass the time.
• 57:28
  but Harry Simpson.
• 57:30
  Yeah.
• 57:30
  I'm familiar.
• 57:30
  Like he was,
• 57:31
  yeah,
• 57:31
  he was arguing that,
• 57:33
  well,
• 57:33
  it was all out of date equipment anyway.
• 57:35
  And there I am just going,
• 57:36
  please.
• 57:36
  Like,
• 57:37
  and I didn't have enough followers as I was just yelling at my phone.
• 57:40
  Like it's all out of date equipment.
• 57:41
  I'm like,
• 57:42
  you do realize that our out of date equipment is still like.
• 57:45
  Yeah.
• 57:46
  Decades ahead.
• 57:46
  What a lot of those people have.
• 57:48
  Technologically way more advanced than they'll ever be at for years to come.
• 57:51
  I mean,
• 57:52
  like a lot of date,
• 57:53
  like,
• 57:54
  God,
• 57:54
  it's like a stupid statement,
• 57:55
  right?
• 57:56
  I feel,
• 57:57
  and that's the worst.
• 57:58
  Like when all of this comes crumbling down, which hopefully now in a few months, like I just want to know what Harry's going to do the rest of his life because he has shot every ounce of credibility that he's ever had right out of his nose.
• 58:10
  And he's like, what, 20?
• 58:12
  Well, I think most social media personalities and talking heads, and I call them political entertainers, to be quite honest, most of these people.
• 58:22
  That's a nice way.
• 58:23
  They have decisions to make because once Trump's in office, what are they going to do?
• 58:31
  Because their whole career is just built on bashing Trump.
• 58:35
  And after Joe Biden's debacle, after the secrets that were trying to be hidden from America have come out about his conditions,
• 58:43
  and after Trump takes office again, you know, barring some other strange shenanigan at 2 or 3 in the morning with ballots and whatnot,
• 58:52
  that hey let's not talk we're not allowed to talk about that fair enough i i was just throwing it
• 58:58
  out there because it's a story it's a story i got i got i got my former brother-in-law i was friends
• 59:04
  with him for forever i was like he's like what i was like but you see all those 60,000 ballots
• 59:09
  that you have votes that came in for him he's like what joe biden was whitney on mail and ballots
• 59:14
  like joe biden was winning two-thirds of them like yes two-thirds bro what 60,000 to like it is like
• 59:21
  So basic math, what I know, you barely graduated high school.
• 59:25
  Oh, wait, you dropped out.
• 59:26
  What is two thirds of like 40,000?
• 59:29
  You're going to get at least one.
• 59:32
  Well, that's all I'm saying.
• 59:33
  What those numbers did not.
• 59:35
  Anyway, none of them made sense.
• 59:37
  And none of them really did add up when you can take in the population or the populace of those specific areas and districts.
• 59:42
  But once Trump gets back into office, for example, what are they going to do?
• 59:48
  I mean, they can continue to try to, you know, beat on him, pull him down and make him look bad, but it's his last term.
• 59:53
  Who cares?
• 59:55
  Yeah.
• 59:55
  And then what?
• 59:57
  That's the thing.
• 59:58
  I mean, are we going to still have Rachel Maddow's getting paid $100,000 a day or whatever the hell she gets paid once there's no more Trump to talk about?
• 1:00:05
  I mean, what's next?
• 1:00:06
  What's next for these people?
• 1:00:07
  Do they actually care about America?
• 1:00:08
  Want to talk about relevant topics that actually affect Americans?
• 1:00:12
  No.
• 1:00:14
  I mean, come on.
• 1:00:15
  I don't know what they're going to do, but I mean, four more years. And then, I mean,
• 1:00:21
  they're just going to run for four more years and they're just going to keep running forever,
• 1:00:24
  even though they realize he just keeps going and it doesn't, it probably just drives him even more
• 1:00:30
  to. Well, I think that's the beauty of Trump. Like he said, I wouldn't be here right now if
• 1:00:33
  you guys just left me alone. What my life would be a lot easier, but none of you could.
• 1:00:38
  You're right. He did say that. The country's gone to hell and here I am.
• 1:00:41
  He did say that. That's funny. I'd much rather be golfing right now.
• 1:00:45
  And that's the beauty of Trump.
• 1:00:46
  He knows he can stick it to him just by existing, just by being there.
• 1:00:51
  Him breathing is like, yeah.
• 1:00:56
  So let's go on to another sensitive topic.
• 1:01:00
  I have a lot of opinions on this, and I'm sure you do,
• 1:01:03
  especially being a service member or ex-Marine and whatnot.
• 1:01:07
  Border security.
• 1:01:09
  What's your thoughts on that?
• 1:01:12
  It's abysmal.
• 1:01:12
  Fun fact, by the time this finally comes out, episode three of my show will probably be out.
• 1:01:18
  And don't you guys worry.
• 1:01:20
  I've got pages and pages and pages and pages and pages of numbers for everybody.
• 1:01:24
  I'm going to say it's been garbage.
• 1:01:27
  It has been garbage.
• 1:01:30
  It's going to continue to be garbage.
• 1:01:33
  I still like to know how, I think it was NBC, ABC, one of them, like a week ago, posted that Joe Biden, you know, what?
• 1:01:41
  He dropped the numbers all the way down to 88,000 in June.
• 1:01:44
  I'm like, that's cool because I was on the Border Patrol's website and they don't have June's numbers posted yet.
• 1:01:50
  So I'm still trying to figure out where the hell they got that from.
• 1:01:52
  I don't get them trying to spin that.
• 1:01:56
  But let's just go with the only person that saw these numbers was like in the last, let's say this century, was George Bush.
• 1:02:08
  he had crazy high numbers in eight years uh those were bad but those were eight years
• 1:02:15
  yeah those were eight years i mean obviously i mean he kept getting mean lower there um obama in
• 1:02:21
  eight years his numbers actually weren't catastrophic you know if you look at them
• 1:02:25
  they weren't good but they weren't catastrophic trump had his four years and you know total
• 1:02:30
  it wasn't that bad if you look at the numbers like and i don't understand how people can't just
• 1:02:36
  just google search it like it literally will pull up like i had a whole entire thing on the website
• 1:02:41
  that had 20 years of data just sitting there in front of my face it only took me five seconds
• 1:02:47
  but uh he led in more people so far right now and that's without june's numbers than we had
• 1:02:55
  like confirmed in the last 12 years combined yeah i in three and a half years i did i did um I did a special episode a while back where I went over this data and I also focused in on Ilhan Omar one of my favorites and went through her past and then also talk about
• 1:03:14
  the border issues.
• 1:03:15
  And in that specific episode, I have a ton of facts and links that you could go and click
• 1:03:19
  on in the show notes.
• 1:03:20
  And I got a lot of it from the border patrol website.
• 1:03:22
  I'm just going to say she sucks.
• 1:03:25
  Oh, I border sucks.
• 1:03:27
  We can get into Ilhan another time, believe me.
• 1:03:30
  The border bill sucked.
• 1:03:32
  The border bill.
• 1:03:33
  Don't worry, everyone listening.
• 1:03:34
  There's air quotes around it.
• 1:03:36
  Thousands of inadmissible.
• 1:03:37
  The funny thing about the border, the funny thing about the border is...
• 1:03:43
  Three and a half years.
• 1:03:45
  Yeah.
• 1:03:45
  The funny thing about the border is that under Biden's presidency, I counted it.
• 1:03:52
  their encounters with people and actual encounters where they actually catch
• 1:03:57
  people, not people that they don't catch that get through.
• 1:03:59
  They already have encountered and caught and stopped
• 1:04:03
  1,700 some odd terrorists, known terrorists,
• 1:04:07
  under Biden's watch alone.
• 1:04:10
  That number was nowhere near that under Trump's.
• 1:04:15
  And I think it's crazy that they want to say,
• 1:04:17
  oh, you know, one of his campaign
• 1:04:20
  talking points now is I closed the border.
• 1:04:23
  No, you didn't.
• 1:04:26
  Nobody opposed you closing the border.
• 1:04:27
  I'm talking about Joe Biden.
• 1:04:29
  They just didn't like you kept stuffing all this money in
• 1:04:31
  to go to Ukraine while trying to close the border.
• 1:04:33
  It was one of those things.
• 1:04:34
  Yeah.
• 1:04:35
  But, yeah.
• 1:04:36
  And Trump had no support,
• 1:04:38
  yet somehow his numbers were about a quarter
• 1:04:41
  what Biden's disastrous numbers on the border are.
• 1:04:46
  I think, like, official apprehensions,
• 1:04:48
  you can quote me, you know, correct me,
• 1:04:50
  where I'm wrong, but I think Trump's last three years combined barely beat Joe's first year alone.
• 1:05:00
  Yeah, I think Joe's first year was, wasn't his first year about 1.2 or 1.4 million?
• 1:05:09
  Yeah, I have it underneath this drill sitting on here and the cable for my microphone is sitting
• 1:05:13
  on top of that drill and I'm not chancing moving that, but yeah, it was somewhere up there. It was
• 1:05:19
  astronomical comparatively.
• 1:05:21
  It was one of those
• 1:05:23
  numbers you just were like, what?
• 1:05:26
  So another thing
• 1:05:27
  that was proven
• 1:05:29
  to be a lie on Joe
• 1:05:31
  Biden's side, aside
• 1:05:33
  from the economy itself as well,
• 1:05:35
  but yet somehow
• 1:05:37
  the people
• 1:05:39
  with the pom-poms on the Democratic side
• 1:05:41
  still want to cheer and jump up and down
• 1:05:43
  and say, no, that's a lie.
• 1:05:45
  Worst ever under Trump. Biden's fixing
• 1:05:47
  the economy. The border's the best ever.
• 1:05:49
  I really don't understand how in America, you know,
• 1:05:54
  the only way to debate and prove an argument is by doing so with facts and
• 1:05:58
  data. And when you prevent that,
• 1:05:59
  how does the other person still not believe you?
• 1:06:03
  Yeah. I'm right there. I don't get it.
• 1:06:07
  On a spiritual level, I feel, you know, but, uh, yeah,
• 1:06:10
  I did like that when you said, uh, yeah,
• 1:06:13
  the economy thing where I don't remember which network it was,
• 1:06:16
  but the first thing they put up there was, you know,
• 1:06:17
  Trump's lies, but he had the best economy ever.
• 1:06:21
  Joe Biden said it too.
• 1:06:24
  Right.
• 1:06:25
  And are we really comparing and contrasting economies right now?
• 1:06:29
  I mean, that's probably not the best mark.
• 1:06:33
  And I also, again, former brother-in-law, he stopped talking to me, whatever.
• 1:06:37
  But he told me I was crazy because in December of 2020, I refinanced this thing.
• 1:06:42
  It was a beautiful home of mine.
• 1:06:44
  I'm like, but I'm never going to see a rate like this anytime soon.
• 1:06:47
  got locked down at two and a quarter.
• 1:06:50
  Guess what?
• 1:06:51
  Joke's on him.
• 1:06:52
  Yeah, I mean, literally.
• 1:06:53
  Two and a quarter.
• 1:06:54
  I'm like, what?
• 1:06:55
  I know what's about to happen.
• 1:06:56
  Why?
• 1:06:57
  Because I've been here.
• 1:06:57
  I was paying attention while you were, you know,
• 1:07:00
  going out bar hopping every night.
• 1:07:01
  I was actually paying attention to the world.
• 1:07:03
  And right now, I'm actually still paying attention to the world.
• 1:07:06
  I mean, hey, we did the same thing.
• 1:07:09
  You know, we saw where things were at and did a refi.
• 1:07:11
  It got a low rate.
• 1:07:12
  Now things are going back up to seven.
• 1:07:14
  and under Biden's presidency,
• 1:07:17
  I mean, it seems like the American dream
• 1:07:19
  is not attainable anymore.
• 1:07:20
  Yeah.
• 1:07:21
  It just really isn't.
• 1:07:22
  It's probably the thing that pisses me off
• 1:07:24
  the worst about it all.
• 1:07:25
  I mean, it actually infuriates me.
• 1:07:27
  That was just, what does he say?
• 1:07:28
  The bottom up and the middle out.
• 1:07:30
  Yeah, the middle is out to the bottom
• 1:07:31
  and the bottom just doesn't even know
• 1:07:32
  what to do anymore.
• 1:07:33
  True.
• 1:07:34
  I agree with that.
• 1:07:35
  Yeah.
• 1:07:35
  Like, because they say it's working for everyone.
• 1:07:37
  Well, the cost of everything's through the roof.
• 1:07:39
  That doesn't hurt rich people.
• 1:07:41
  Mortgage rates are through the roof.
• 1:07:42
  that insurance rates, I mean, you name it,
• 1:07:45
  but interest rates for loans, if you want to get anything,
• 1:07:47
  but everything's like, that doesn't hurt the wealthy.
• 1:07:50
  That only hurts the normal folks.
• 1:07:55
  So, I mean, this is all America has to know
• 1:07:59
  about Biden's economic plan versus Trump's economic plan.
• 1:08:04
  And it was very evident when Biden made the statement
• 1:08:07
  that inflation does not affect the cost of goods.
• 1:08:12
  I have no idea where he got that information or how he even came to that
• 1:08:18
  conclusion, but good luck.
• 1:08:20
  I don't think he knows.
• 1:08:22
  I mean, you're literally devaluing the dollar.
• 1:08:25
  How does it not affect cost of goods?
• 1:08:27
  As a business owner, I can tell you,
• 1:08:29
  it absolutely affects cost of goods, cost of operations, employment, tax.
• 1:08:35
  I mean, you name it, you name it across the board.
• 1:08:37
  Cost of everything.
• 1:08:40
  Oh my.
• 1:08:41
  But remember, remember, it's not happening. It's a right wing conspiracy theory. It's transitory. It's your fault for buying things. Oh, and then it was Putin's fault, even though it was already up like over double triple what it was when they took office before Putin ever got anywhere near Ukraine. But that's again, that whole entire thing is a long conversation.
• 1:09:01
  Complete agreement.
• 1:09:03
  How they could blame all this on Putin when our own government is willingly funneling
• 1:09:07
  billions and billions of dollars to support a country who, by the way, nobody would ever
• 1:09:12
  do business with before because Ukraine, guess what, historically is a very corrupt government.
• 1:09:17
  Zelensky himself has arrested his own political opponents and has disappeared people.
• 1:09:22
  Yes, he has.
• 1:09:23
  But somehow those facts are never talked about.
• 1:09:25
  Yeah, and I mentioned Crystal earlier.
• 1:09:28
  Her mother actually met a Ukrainian woman.
• 1:09:31
  online through some, I don't even know.
• 1:09:34
  I'm not even going to try to figure out how to know,
• 1:09:36
  but they were talking for forever.
• 1:09:38
  And she was actually right there in Kiev
• 1:09:40
  when all of that was, you know.
• 1:09:42
  And thankfully, again, she's in some other country now,
• 1:09:45
  but she was sitting there talking to like,
• 1:09:48
  I was listening to conversations.
• 1:09:49
  She's like, what, you guys don't even know the half of it.
• 1:09:52
  Oh, I'm sure.
• 1:09:53
  You don't even know with this dude.
• 1:09:57
  I'm like, well, thank you for calling him this dude.
• 1:09:59
  Yeah.
• 1:10:00
  I'm sure you actually could have said something way worse than in Ukrainian.
• 1:10:03
  And I never would have known.
• 1:10:04
  Well, thank you.
• 1:10:05
  Thank you for putting it into something that I'm not going to have to go and try to Google later.
• 1:10:09
  Appreciate you.
• 1:10:09
  Thank you for being nice.
• 1:10:10
  But, hey, I just, well, it's not even really trying to remember.
• 1:10:15
  It's just trying to, because I'm taking German lessons and all that.
• 1:10:18
  And it's just, you know, it's not Ukrainian.
• 1:10:20
  But when they say something, I'm like, I got to try to, like, just trying to fathom how to spell it.
• 1:10:25
  I'm like, thank you for saying this, dude.
• 1:10:27
  Why?
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  because I'd be sitting there for 20 minutes just trying to spell that.
• 1:10:30
  And that would get me nowhere.
• 1:10:33
  But yeah, she's like, you guys don't even know.
• 1:10:35
  You'll never know.
• 1:10:37
  And it's really just a money pit,
• 1:10:42
  except it's a money pit funneling, washing,
• 1:10:47
  whatever you want to, you know.
• 1:10:48
  Oh, it's a big money laundering operation.
• 1:10:53
  And we're never just, I mean, I don't know how you feel about it,
• 1:10:56
  but I don't find it to be a winnable situation.
• 1:11:03
  You're talking about winnable between...
• 1:11:05
  For Ukraine.
• 1:11:08
  No, it's not.
• 1:11:10
  It just isn't.
• 1:11:10
  They don't have the resources.
• 1:11:12
  They don't have military resources.
• 1:11:14
  They don't have the amount of people.
• 1:11:15
  It's just one of those...
• 1:11:16
  I mean, they're kidnapping middle-aged men
• 1:11:19
  to go fight at this point.
• 1:11:22
  Yeah.
• 1:11:22
  Like it's a, it's a complete, I got, I got notes stacked up somewhere in this giant cluster of just my stack stuff, her stack stuff.
• 1:11:33
  But, you know, it's a, yeah, that's, that isn't money laundering.
• 1:11:38
  I don't know what is because that thing's just, that thing sucked the whole time.
• 1:11:43
  But back to the moral.
• 1:11:45
  Yeah.
• 1:11:46
  I don't remember where we were, but blaming Putin for it.
• 1:11:49
  There we go.
• 1:11:50
  That was a nice touch.
• 1:11:53
  We're talking about Biden's disastrous statements that really was a disrespect to all American, all service members.
• 1:12:02
  And we talked about the border security.
• 1:12:06
  And I mean, basically, we're just chatting about the 2024 presidential election in general.
• 1:12:11
  I think people need to be more informed.
• 1:12:13
  That's why I'm glad there's people like you and me and everyone else out there at least putting in the work.
• 1:12:17
  I feel like
• 1:12:19
  I don't know about
• 1:12:21
  well you stated earlier
• 1:12:22
  you felt like you had to do this
• 1:12:24
  I got into this kind of for the same
• 1:12:26
  reason
• 1:12:28
  it's like I'm looking at the landscape
• 1:12:31
  and hearing everybody just talking
• 1:12:33
  I mean it just
• 1:12:34
  they're just speaking
• 1:12:37
  nonsense
• 1:12:38
  and I'm sitting here going
• 1:12:39
  look if this clown could be out here
• 1:12:42
  with a platform spewing a bunch of
• 1:12:45
  bullshit
• 1:12:45
  then why don't I give this a shot? Why don't I go ahead and tell the world a little bit about
• 1:12:53
  things from my perspective, but also not just an opinion, also present facts as well. I mean,
• 1:12:59
  let's be honest, we all have our own opinions based on our life experiences and how we go
• 1:13:04
  through things and what's thrown at us. I mean, we're all going to have an opinion, but in the end,
• 1:13:08
  there's a fact out there. And once you find those and uncover those, I believe that is the duty of
• 1:13:15
  people like us to go ahead and present those to the world so people can see there's a truth and
• 1:13:21
  an alternate way of thinking or looking at it. And even if we don't convince somebody,
• 1:13:25
  at least we threw it out there and they had the opportunity to educate themselves. Just to be
• 1:13:30
  quite honest, Jesse, I'll tell you, I listen sometimes to some liberal or democratic podcasts
• 1:13:34
  and news and there's times I'll go, oh, okay, I get it. I get their point. It makes sense,
• 1:13:40
  but not it's not always the majority of time that that is the case but it does there's there's some
• 1:13:47
  things where i'm like yeah okay that makes sense so the problem i have and i don't know i don't know
• 1:13:53
  how you feel about this especially being in the political space as a podcaster you know whatever
• 1:13:57
  you want to call us these days is i tried so hard to stay neutral to look at both sides and present things from both sides whether they were fact fiction whether I can call someone out on their shit
• 1:14:10
  as I usually say.
• 1:14:11
  But to be quite honest,
• 1:14:13
  it got harder and harder for me to stay neutral at times.
• 1:14:16
  Oh yeah.
• 1:14:16
  How do you,
• 1:14:17
  how do you feel about that statement?
• 1:14:19
  A thousand percent.
• 1:14:20
  But the thing that I've been,
• 1:14:22
  you know,
• 1:14:22
  I've worded it as nicely as I can lately.
• 1:14:26
  Cause Hannah's always all one.
• 1:14:28
  sometimes you start i'm like sometimes they leave me no other option but is um these
• 1:14:35
  people out there and again this goes you know because there's people on both sides that this
• 1:14:41
  you know goes along with but people let their opinions make up what the facts actually are
• 1:14:50
  and whether they're going to listen unlike letting the facts change their opinion
• 1:14:54
  their opinion is changes the facts and i think that when that happens as much as it does because
• 1:15:02
  it's all over everywhere i mean i don't know i i mean i do try to you know watch both sides of the
• 1:15:09
  argument you know and try to keep tabs just to see because i mean again like you said every once in a
• 1:15:14
  while i'm like that actually makes sense doesn't happen very often but every once in a while they
• 1:15:20
  hit you know something out of the ball or you're like they actually aren't lying there and it
• 1:15:25
  completely blows my mind but there are certain topics where i just i she's even come in here
• 1:15:33
  like while i was in mid recording and open the door she's like dude and if you go back you can
• 1:15:38
  even probably find some of those episodes where she's like you're the door creaking open she's
• 1:15:42
  like bro like what i tried i tried what but please please just tone it down a bit like i heard too
• 1:15:49
  what i i try to be nice to like i try but there's just some times where they're just spewing
• 1:15:56
  just so much garbage and so many people are eating into it you know just eating plate after plate
• 1:16:02
  after plate of it even though it takes nine seconds to like and they're like even people
• 1:16:09
  i've known for forever literally coming at me just screaming saying that i'm out of my mind
• 1:16:13
  and i'm this that and the other thing even though i'm like and i'll send them the link and be like
• 1:16:16
  don't really do like that straight from his own people right that's their website that's not me
• 1:16:22
  what that's that and they're still defending it and saying that i'm like so it they make it kind
• 1:16:26
  of uh hard at times to uh stay neutral as i mean i always try any more like i'm trying to be again
• 1:16:37
  i'm all grown up now yeah right trying but yeah it's it's ever hard i'd say in today's climate
• 1:16:45
  to be able to do that.
• 1:16:47
  Yeah, it seems a time that it's really fanatical,
• 1:16:53
  and it can be fanatical on both sides.
• 1:16:56
  And sometimes I feel like it's really arguing one religion over another
• 1:17:00
  because it's mostly faith-based decisions,
• 1:17:04
  as you would say, their opinions,
• 1:17:05
  but it seems like they're operating on faith more than fact.
• 1:17:08
  And that happens on our side too, on the conservative side.
• 1:17:10
  I mean, I am not a far-right fan, to be quite honest.
• 1:17:15
  It does get to a point where it goes a little too far.
• 1:17:17
  I mean, you know, let's make sense of things.
• 1:17:20
  There's crazy people on both sides, everybody.
• 1:17:23
  Absolutely.
• 1:17:23
  And in between.
• 1:17:25
  Yes, true.
• 1:17:26
  And on sides, you don't even know our sides.
• 1:17:27
  Yeah, that's absolutely, absolutely true.
• 1:17:31
  I, well, I hope that the message gets out there more, you know, not the indoctrinating message,
• 1:17:41
  but the message of truth, for example, presenting facts,
• 1:17:46
  and maybe even opposing views that will help you see things differently.
• 1:17:51
  And that's always been my hope.
• 1:17:53
  Yeah, and we used to actually, like, that's the thing that has irritated me most
• 1:17:58
  because I don't, again, I was so young, so many head injuries ago, I couldn't.
• 1:18:02
  But we actually used to have that where we'd have a person from each side
• 1:18:06
  like on tv together on shows together just like debating the things and going back and forth and
• 1:18:13
  that was the whole entire premise of their thing now you can't even be in like most of them can't
• 1:18:17
  even be in the same room as one another and it's just so i want to say tribal and fanatical and
• 1:18:23
  it's just i don't know i i don't have an actual word for that surprisingly well and aside of
• 1:18:29
  aside from people just reading the headlines and not going into the details i think the other
• 1:18:34
  problem that may have led to where we are now is you don't have a good representation of what an
• 1:18:40
  actual debate is. As you said, you know, for the last, I don't know, let's say eight to 10 years,
• 1:18:47
  maybe more debates on the news as they would like to call themselves. And that's me air quoting
• 1:18:52
  is just a bunch of people on the screen yelling over each other and not really having a conversation.
• 1:18:58
  So you can't even make sense of what the hell's going on. Also, the presidential debates have
• 1:19:02
  gotten that way. It's more about slinging slanders and trying to make people look bad. Like they're
• 1:19:06
  a bunch of schoolyard children, right? Just trying to insult each other than focusing on the actual
• 1:19:11
  issues and debating on those actual issues. And they get elected based on their popularity or
• 1:19:18
  how bad someone scolds the other and makes them look ridiculous when it really should be based on
• 1:19:22
  what are their policies, what do they believe in, and how does this affect America?
• 1:19:27
  I don't know why we got away from that or how that was acceptable to get away from that.
• 1:19:31
  I mean, that's why I don't watch any of the primary debates, especially what during the Democrats last time they had like 17 people on the stage at one point.
• 1:19:41
  It was just mudslinging the whole time.
• 1:19:44
  And that's what got us here.
• 1:19:46
  But I think, again, like I said earlier, I think it's all been by design.
• 1:19:52
  They've set it up so everyone's just so busy arguing with each other.
• 1:19:58
  Like literally everybody.
• 1:20:00
  I mean, it's just like, again, go on anything.
• 1:20:03
  Everyone's there just, you know, arguing with each other and throwing mud and everything else that they do.
• 1:20:08
  And it makes it, it's by design.
• 1:20:11
  Because, I mean, look at us all now.
• 1:20:13
  Look at how many, I mean, everything's just that way.
• 1:20:16
  Whether it's on, you know, news things and you turn on any social media influencer.
• 1:20:21
  I mean, news headlines.
• 1:20:22
  I mean, debates.
• 1:20:24
  everything's just mudslinging and so much vitriol across you know sides that now everyone's so busy
• 1:20:33
  doing that that no one gives a damn about what the stats are no one cares about looking up anything
• 1:20:40
  they're just so busy arguing with one another that you know now that's all anyone sees and i think
• 1:20:45
  that makes it you know a lot easier for people to be like that's what we're supposed to do and
• 1:20:49
  that tribalism i think that's the best word i can come up with for it and i think that's what's
• 1:20:54
  gotten us so ignorant i believe is the word you used because it's easy to do whatever the hell you
• 1:21:00
  want when everyone's too busy arguing with one another all the time and that's all it's been for
• 1:21:05
  i don't know i mean it's been a long time it's really really really really turned up to a million
• 1:21:12
  since a certain guy came down an escalator that means there has been like civil conversations
• 1:21:18
  anywhere since then it's just name calling the whole entire time no matter where you turn yes
• 1:21:24
  And it makes it a lot easier for them to be like, well, best border numbers ever.
• 1:21:28
  And we're just sitting there and we're sitting there going, huh?
• 1:21:31
  Yeah.
• 1:21:32
  Except most people are just going, yep, sure.
• 1:21:34
  Yeah.
• 1:21:35
  They see the headline, they keep moving on and they're just too busy just attacking all the time.
• 1:21:39
  It's like it's put the society just in high alert mode all the time.
• 1:21:45
  How do you feel about our future as a country?
• 1:21:49
  Right now, the direction we're going.
• 1:21:50
  I mean, right now, I mean, I still have all the faith.
• 1:21:54
  I mean, you still have to have faith no matter how things are.
• 1:22:01
  But I think we're going to need, because anything could be turned around.
• 1:22:06
  Except for my marriage.
• 1:22:08
  I couldn't, but that's another story.
• 1:22:09
  We tried.
• 1:22:11
  But anything could be turned around.
• 1:22:12
  I just think it's going to take so much work to get us there.
• 1:22:18
  And I have faith.
• 1:22:19
  I mean, I always try to.
• 1:22:20
  I mean, I always want to see the good, you know, you always try to see the best in everybody in every situation, even people that don't like you, at least in my experience, because, you know, that leads to, you know, bad things down the road, having all those feelings, you know, for me personally.
• 1:22:36
  I tried to see the best. I hope for the best. I think, you know,
• 1:22:39
  everything can be turned around,
• 1:22:40
  but we just need to have like the biggest fire hose known to mankind,
• 1:22:45
  like ever just sprayed down on everyone to douse the flames.
• 1:22:50
  Cause everything's just been so go, go, go for so long.
• 1:22:56
  And I just don't know how long it's going to take, you know,
• 1:22:58
  if we get a chance to, you know, get everything going in the right direction again.
• 1:23:04
  Cause I mean, I know people that are related to people that, you know,
• 1:23:08
  stop talking since everything just got so.
• 1:23:13
  So polarized, right? Yeah. Like everything's just so like,
• 1:23:17
  I know like literal family members that don't talk just cause they're on
• 1:23:20
  separate, you know, like political sides. I'm like,
• 1:23:23
  you guys could still talk, you know, like you, like that's,
• 1:23:27
  that's how you actually perpetuate the problem and don't get anywhere is again,
• 1:23:33
  no one can have conversations. It's just screaming matches all the time. And until we start doing
• 1:23:39
  that, you know, and having conversations, you know, nothing's going to get turned back around,
• 1:23:44
  but I always have faith that, I mean, it's America, right? Yes. I mean, we've all been
• 1:23:49
  through some things. I mean, through everything in my life, all the trials and tribulations,
• 1:23:54
  just like everyone else, you can turn things around as long as you have the right mindset.
• 1:24:00
  and again i funny i you know finally after everything that happened before i got ran over
• 1:24:07
  i finally was like screw it man when everything's good and i finally started turning the sheet when
• 1:24:13
  a lot of things finally started you know dying down turning around and yeah i just and i stayed
• 1:24:17
  positive and it worked that i mean if you have a positive mindset we can get through anything
• 1:24:23
  i believe so honestly believe that i believe that's all you got to have and that starts you
• 1:24:29
  everything the wheels turning in the proper direction we just have to get everybody there
• 1:24:33
  and the flames desperately need doused because i mean powder keg good energy is infectious right
• 1:24:41
  yes absolutely and it will and it will definitely put out negative energy for sure yes i believe
• 1:24:48
  that so i don't think it's i don't think it's you know as hopeless as some people do i think you
• 1:24:53
  know again i was positive there always you know there always hope nothing you know to quote John Rambo Nothing is over Nothing Good old Rambo You know Hey first blood that was a classic but absolutely you know nothing is over nothing you don just turn it off and it you know and that
• 1:25:12
  good is still in everybody I just don't think anyone's calmed down and took a breath long enough
• 1:25:18
  to realize just how turned up everything has been.
• 1:25:24
  I'm going to say I'm kind of, well,
• 1:25:28
  I am glad that we ran into each other,
• 1:25:29
  even if it was through text messaging and Zoom and whatnot.
• 1:25:35
  I have a feeling you and I are going to have many more conversations,
• 1:25:37
  to be honest.
• 1:25:39
  Hey, I'm down.
• 1:25:40
  I want to, we'll probably wrap this up here soon,
• 1:25:43
  but I do want to ask you about your artwork that you brought up before.
• 1:25:48
  What is that about?
• 1:25:50
  Can you explain what you're doing there?
• 1:25:52
  Well, you see, this came about last year for me and my girlfriend's anniversary because I spent all my money on, you know, because I didn't have a lot.
• 1:26:09
  Let's be honest here.
• 1:26:10
  I mean, things were a lot more chaotic in life.
• 1:26:14
  Yeah.
• 1:26:14
  At this point, you know, at that point last year.
• 1:26:16
  but I did it just to paint or something. Cause she likes sentimental things and she had like
• 1:26:19
  art supplies around and stuff. And so I painted like, you know, our first camping trip that we
• 1:26:25
  did together. Like I put that on there. And if you look at it now compared to some of the stuff I did,
• 1:26:29
  I just laugh. Um, like literally you can tell what it is, but, um, but I started.
• 1:26:36
  Just the progression of your skill, right? Oh yeah. Like it, it was a rapid, rapid ascension in my,
• 1:26:41
  yeah that's awesome at least that's what everyone tells me but yeah like i want to say i don't
• 1:26:47
  remember when but it was well over a year ago i lost my mental health doctor at the va uh again
• 1:26:58
  just because you know she moved on hhs offered her more money i don't blame her i know what her
• 1:27:04
  caseload was with people you know here where i am trust me i i know uh i lost my primary care
• 1:27:11
  doctor which i still haven't had now again over a year they still get a whole other thing and you
• 1:27:17
  know there's a lot of things just you know irking me again like i told you last year was just
• 1:27:22
  you know rough between health stuff you know untimely deaths with people you know all that
• 1:27:29
  Like I just started painting and I found it to actually be quite therapeutic to just sit down and have a vision in my head and just go.
• 1:27:43
  And, you know, I've started off with that archaic thing.
• 1:27:47
  Like it's awesome, but I've gone everywhere from, you know, painting Captain Spaulding from Rob Zombie's House of a Thousand Corpses.
• 1:27:56
  Like his face turned out outstanding.
• 1:27:58
  Awesome.
• 1:27:58
  I did a whole lot of Grinches during Christmas times for people.
• 1:28:02
  I gave him away his gifts.
• 1:28:03
  Like it was pretty outstanding.
• 1:28:05
  Real monsters.
• 1:28:06
  That was one of my favorites that I did.
• 1:28:08
  I don't know how it turned out as well,
• 1:28:09
  especially as I painted the background color like nine times because I never
• 1:28:12
  liked it, but that's at a new home.
• 1:28:15
  And really I just started, I was like, let this actually, because, you know,
• 1:28:18
  it just sits down and, you know,
• 1:28:19
  you just have to put your mind on that and it helps, you know,
• 1:28:23
  actually clear a lot of, you know, bad space out of your head. If you do, you know, have any kind
• 1:28:31
  of stuff, you know, again, life in general, head injuries, PTSD, all those fun things, you know,
• 1:28:37
  it just, it was really good and therapeutic and it helped, you know, deal with a lot of things when
• 1:28:42
  the VA wasn't there, you know, and again, I don't blame my doctor. She had her caseload. I couldn't
• 1:28:47
  tell you the number, but it was just through the roof nonstop all the time. I didn't have anything.
• 1:28:52
  I didn't have anyone to reach out with there that I felt actually cared.
• 1:28:56
  Again, that could just be my area here.
• 1:28:59
  I do have the greatest neurologist ever in the world, though.
• 1:29:02
  So Dr. Oster, that's a shout out to you because he handles everything for me now.
• 1:29:08
  And he is a saint.
• 1:29:09
  And I told him you better never leave.
• 1:29:11
  He chuckled.
• 1:29:12
  I'm like, I'm not laughing, bro.
• 1:29:13
  You're not going anywhere.
• 1:29:14
  But I use that as just a form of therapy.
• 1:29:17
  And I tried to turn, you know, like, you know, just if I can make a few extra dollars in the process, then, you know, that helped too.
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  But really, it was just as a form of therapeutic thing.
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  And there were just so many of them stacking up that I do it that way.
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  And when I go down to see my other veteran friends when they're around, you know, I bring them art supplies.
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  And we sit down and we just, you know, throw some pain around and just laugh and reminisce.
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  And I find it, you know, to be just a really good form of therapy to do.
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  I highly recommend it to everybody because even if you don't think you're that good,
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  I mean, doing it, it really is a good way to help, you know,
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  clear your head and get a lot of that dark matter out of there and clear your headspace.
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  So that's all it was.
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  I really enjoy it though.
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  I haven't done anything in a few months.
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  Last painting I did was for my parents.
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  It was my first underwater anything.
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  It was my first shark.
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  She was like, oh, everyone's like, that's a great shark.
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  I'm like, yeah, I'm not painting another one.
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  Don't worry.
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  I will though. But yeah, I just use it as a form of therapy and it turned into just, I had so much
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  and people, you know, really appreciated it, you know, more than I did even because I was just
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  doing it to clear my headspace and painting things that I liked and art therapy. It's a hell of a
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  medicine and it's a lot better for you than any of the stuff they try to pump into your system
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  through the VA. Again, that's a whole other day's worth of conversation we can have about the VA.
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  One of my uncles was on VA care.
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  I know another person who is on VA care.
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  I mean, I've had some interactions.
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  I myself know, but I've seen what they have gone through.
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  And I think that would be a great episode
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  where you can revisit that conversation for sure.
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  It's therapeutic.
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  Just like this.
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  I hope that after this episode gets released,
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  that this helps drive more traffic to your podcast,
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  The Jesse Rosinski Show.
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  Also, though, bringing up your artwork,
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  I know you have some items for sale on Etsy.
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  How can people support your efforts?
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  Because a lot of people don't realize,
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  being an independent podcaster,
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  we don't make money doing this.
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  It's very rare that we make anything at all.
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  And we put a lot of time, lots of time,
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  in trying to make these things happen.
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  so how can people support your efforts uh if you go on i got the facebook page instagram
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  and i and i think it's on x on x it's j rosinski paints just because you only have so many
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  characters otherwise it's jesse rosinski creations on everything that's the handle on etsy as well
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  you can see everything that's on there and you could definitely see the ones that are older on
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  there that i just look at and i go i'll just give it to someone for free if they pay for shipping at
• 1:32:12
  this point you know there's some of them but jesse rosinski creations on there and you know on etsy
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  and you could also i mean message me on there if you have something custom that you'd like done
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  just you know if i could do it i'll do it because i've had people you know do that and that's
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  actually turned out to be some of the uh better things that i've done even though i will say that
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  the backside of alcatraz and the golden gate bridge is probably the best thing i ever did
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  or the Grinch's mugshot,
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  but those are arguments to have another day.
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  But yeah, Jesse Rosinski creations on Etsy.
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  And there's stuff there again.
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  I'm going to try to start painting more.
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  I've just been putting more time into getting the show back,
• 1:32:52
  going in and getting everything proper and done right.
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  So I haven't updated anything because I haven't touched anything.
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  I mean, I've touched the paint.
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  I haven't done anything.
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  I haven't found that right motivation because I've been doing the show, but if you go on Jesse
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  Rosinski creations, free shipping, I'll do a custom anything if I can do it. And again,
• 1:33:12
  it helps bring a little bit of stuff. I used some of it to help get a, you know, to pay for,
• 1:33:18
  what do I get? I got a micro, I got my microphone right here with money from that. So I didn't have
• 1:33:22
  to go out of pocket for that. So I could actually have a decent microphone. So it does help. And no,
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  we don't really make any money off of doing it.
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  So every little bit,
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  you know,
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  it helps and a piece of me is on that canvas.
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  So,
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  well,
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  at this point,
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  how often do you drop an episode?
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  Every Wednesday,
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  every Wednesday.
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  So once,
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  once a week,
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  you're releasing an episode.
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  You got a new one coming out already tomorrow morning,
• 1:33:51
  tomorrow.
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  So we're recording releases.
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  We're recording on Tuesday,
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  July 9th.
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  So July 10th,
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  there will be a new episode and every Wednesday after that.
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  So I encourage everybody to go listen to the Jesse Rosinski show.
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  I hope that you get a ton of traffic there and a lot of support.
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  I just want to thank you for your time.
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  I really do.
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  I appreciate the conversation.
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  Thank you.
• 1:34:11
  Oh, this is good.
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  I want to thank you for reaching out.
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  Like, uh, again, like I've been, like I was honestly, like it was one of those, like I saw it.
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  I'm like, am I being punked?
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  No, not at all.
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  This doesn't happen ever.
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  And then I think I just dated myself.
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  Oh shit.
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  Good job, Ashton Kutcher.
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  You just got punked.
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  Yeah.
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  And, but time is precious.
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  And, you know, to get to sit down and talk to anybody, you know, and have an actual conversation, again, doesn't happen all the time.
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  And to get to hit a bunch of stuff is, you know, very appreciative of anyone that's listening, you know, to this, even if you don't check me out.
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  But thank you for listening to us.
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  Because, you know, again, once you go through enough, the older you get, all the times you're growing up.
• 1:34:54
  And they're like, time is precious.
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  And you're like, yeah, sure.
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  Now get out of the way.
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  Because you have a million things to do.
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  what time really it is.
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  And even if my brain never turns off until about an hour or so after I take my
• 1:35:06
  sleeping meds from the VA,
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  shout out to that.
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  That's the one good thing they do.
• 1:35:10
  And really they're both migraine suppressors.
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  They just happen to render me unconscious,
• 1:35:14
  which is great because I don't sleep otherwise.
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  You know,
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  my brain's always going and you know,
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  just to let me into your,
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  wherever you are,
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  your car,
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  your house,
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  whatever.
• 1:35:26
  I appreciate the time.
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  and you ask what I'll do it again.
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  I'm glad you're doing it.
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  I hope people find you
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  and I encourage them to listen to your show.
• 1:35:36
  So again, thanks for your time.
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  And I know that you and I
• 1:35:39
  will have more conversations for sure.
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  Actually, I'm very, very sure.
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  All right.
• 1:35:46
  Well, thank you.
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  Thank you.
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  you