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S1E35 - Cody Haney_ A Mother_s Voice · Luke's English Podcast

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Speaker 1: crime Podcast. I'm Alisa and I'm Michael, and this is
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Speaker 1: our second installment on the missing person case of Cody
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Speaker 1: Haney out of Liberty County, Florida. And Cody was a
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Speaker 1: last seen on June twenty first, twenty twenty four, and
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Speaker 1: he was reported and missing on June twenty fifth, twenty
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Speaker 1: twenty four by his mom, Michelle.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: In this interview with Michelle, one thing that you're going
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Speaker 3: to notice is this is a bizarre and just strange
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Speaker 3: story and there's going to be some names that Michelle
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Speaker 3: brings up that we're going to redact out for now.
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Speaker 3: And it's not because we don't believe her. It's not
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Speaker 3: because of anything other than the fact we have a
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Speaker 3: lot of investigation ahead of us before we feel comfortable
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Speaker 3: with some of these names, and we're hoping the story
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Speaker 3: still makes sense. We believe it does, and we're looking
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Speaker 3: forward to sharing it.
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Speaker 1: Yes, and with any case that we're covering, we absolutely
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Speaker 1: want to make sure that we are not getting in
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Speaker 1: the way of any investigation, and because this is so
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Speaker 1: new to us, we want to be very careful with
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Speaker 1: putting names out there. Tonight we are speaking with Michelle
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Speaker 1: mccroy and Michelle is Cody Haney's mom, and we're so
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Speaker 1: grateful that you have chosen to come and share Cody's
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Speaker 1: story with us, and welcome to the show. Hello, and Hi,
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Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. Michael.
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Speaker 3: I am also at the show.
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Speaker 1: It's always nice to have you here. So Michelle, can
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Speaker 1: you start by telling us who Cody is, not the
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Speaker 1: missing person but the son.
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Speaker 2: You know, Oh, Cody is so viberous, so full of life.
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Speaker 2: It's definitely never a dull moment when Cody was around.
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Speaker 2: You know, he could turn a bad day into a
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Speaker 2: good day. I always like to make people laugh, you know,
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Speaker 2: and he just he'd loves fishing, you know, we'd be
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Speaker 2: sitting here at the house and you know his favorite
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Speaker 2: TV shows were Our teen Wolves and Vampire. You know,
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Speaker 2: he has siblings, and uh, he would always take Eli fishing.
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Speaker 2: Elijah is deaf and mute, and he just always took
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Speaker 2: up so much time with Eli. You know, they were
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Speaker 2: like two peas in a pod. Uh. You know, when
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Speaker 2: Cody would he'd be here at the house and you
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Speaker 2: know we would just he just he loved to be
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Speaker 2: outside all the time. You know. He liked riding on
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Speaker 2: the full Willard golf cards, anything he could find, and
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Speaker 2: again loved fishing. Fishing was his life and he just
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Speaker 2: you know, he just always had a way of just
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Speaker 2: brightening up anybody's day. Everybody loved him. He was a
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Speaker 2: good person.
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Speaker 1: And what is one thing about Cody that you wish
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Speaker 1: everyone understood, like right from the.
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Speaker 2: Get go, Cody the good, loving person and he would
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Speaker 2: never just believe like this, you know, and he just
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Speaker 2: he would do anything to help anybody. You know, he
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Speaker 2: had didn't have a lot of friends. You know, he
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Speaker 2: was a little bit you know, more of a inside
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Speaker 2: kind of person. But he would just do anything to
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Speaker 2: help anybody you could ask him, you know, for anything,
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Speaker 2: and he would give it to you, and if he
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Speaker 2: didn't have it, he would find a way to get it.
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Speaker 1: I'm not from the North Florida area, but I'm married
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Speaker 1: into a North Florida family. That is correct, and I'm
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Speaker 1: hearing a lot of similarities. And you're talking about Cody
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Speaker 1: and some of the other families have shared of people
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Speaker 1: that we have covered their cases. There seems to be
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Speaker 1: this sort of pervasive you will help anybody with anything
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Speaker 1: at any time, and like this real sense of community
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Speaker 1: in the area that being from a metropolitan area and
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Speaker 1: from the Midwest is not something I'm accustomed to. And
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Speaker 1: so I just hear a lot of similarities between Cody
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Speaker 1: and some of the other folks that we've covered.
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Speaker 2: And fishing.
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Speaker 1: Fishing is a big fishing appears to be a big
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Speaker 1: deal in that area, because I got a pretty expert
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Speaker 1: fisherman sitting right here as well. I'm not too bad myself,
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Speaker 1: but I had to learn. So in the weeks leading
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Speaker 1: up to Cody's disappearance, did you notice any changes or
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Speaker 1: anything that was kind of out of the ordinary.
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Speaker 2: I didn't notice that because he was on a curfew,
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Speaker 2: so it seemed like in a couple of weeks leading
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Speaker 2: up to this, like he was, he would be pushing
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Speaker 2: that curfew, like if he had to be in at eight,
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Speaker 2: he'd push it to like seven thirty seven forty, which
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Speaker 2: was unlike him because usually when he get off work,
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Speaker 2: he comes straight to the house, change his clothes, get
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Speaker 2: his fish and pole, and go down to the river
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Speaker 2: because we don't live but maybe a mile or two
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Speaker 2: from the river. And he just kind of started, like
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Speaker 2: how do you say, became more not wanting me so involved.
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Speaker 2: I got a few phone calls from a few people
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Speaker 2: that were telling me that, you know, a couple of
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Speaker 2: guys that was at his job, that maybe he didn't
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Speaker 2: need to be around them. So I would try to
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Speaker 2: talk to Tody about it. And to beginning, you know,
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Speaker 2: when he first started the job, he would always been like,
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Speaker 2: oh my, you know, I'm not doing anything. I promise,
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Speaker 2: you know, always home, and he was. But then he
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Speaker 2: just started kind of staying out later and not wanting
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Speaker 2: to talk to me quite as much about guy at work.
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Speaker 2: But other than that, he just seemed like his normal felt.
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Speaker 2: I mean, like he was still just as happy. You know,
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Speaker 2: he didn't seem depressed or anything. So you know when
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Speaker 2: all of this happened, it really helped me off gward
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Speaker 2: because you know, nobody, nobody would ever thought did.
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Speaker 3: I have a couple of clarifiers, just make sure I
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Speaker 3: understand like locations. So when you say river, are we
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Speaker 3: talking about Theoklotney River at Pleachicola River? Saint Mark's which one?
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Speaker 3: Are we talking about Aplechicola? Okay? So it's trying to
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Speaker 3: get an idea of location because there's a lot of
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Speaker 3: there's a lot of rivers in this area. So I
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Speaker 3: want to make sure that people are listening understand where
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Speaker 3: we're talking about. And that was a very commonplace to
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Speaker 3: go fishing and hang out.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Cody was young when he disappeared. Can he was
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Speaker 1: twenty two when he went missing?
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Speaker 3: Is I right?
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Speaker 2: Yes, ma'am?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, So he's young, and so when you're talking
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Speaker 1: about him sort of wanting to separate a little bit
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Speaker 1: from you. That's typical, right for someone who's in their twenties.
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Speaker 1: We don't have someone who's older who's disappeared. He's a
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Speaker 1: young man.
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Speaker 2: Yeah when he went missing, and he had, yeah, got
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Speaker 2: him a girlfriend, and so you know it was kind
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Speaker 2: of Cody's my first son so it just seemed normal,
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Speaker 2: you know that he didn't want to talk to me,
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Speaker 2: you know about some things. Yeah, because he was only
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Speaker 2: twenty two when he went missing, so still got a
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Speaker 2: whole life ahead of him.
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Speaker 3: And talk about curfew, what was his curfew?
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Speaker 2: About his curfew was because he had gotten into a
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Speaker 2: little bit of trouble and he was on probation. So
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Speaker 2: with him being on probation, they had set him up
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Speaker 2: on a curfew. Now, he was allowed to go anywhere
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Speaker 2: because his job, he'd done a land surveillion. So from
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Speaker 2: like seven o'clock in the morning to like eight o'clock
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Speaker 2: in the afternoon, you know, he was allowed to go anywhere.
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Speaker 2: But about eight o'clock was about the curfew time for
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Speaker 2: him to be home. They did have him on an
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Speaker 2: ankle monitor, So, which is what has made all of
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Speaker 2: this a little more odd of wine. The ankle monitor
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Speaker 2: couldn't crack him.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, because I mean my first question is, you know,
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Speaker 3: number one, what is he in trouble for? And number two,
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Speaker 3: if we have an ankle monitor on, why are we missing?
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Speaker 2: Right? Well, he had got into a little bit of
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Speaker 2: trouble a few years back with the same guy that
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Speaker 2: he was with the weekend that he went missing, Apparently
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Speaker 2: they had decided to I don't know what kind of
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Speaker 2: drug they did, but it by lady his probation. So
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Speaker 2: he got in trouble. So when he got out of jail,
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Speaker 2: he it was a lot stricter. That's when the curfew started,
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Speaker 2: and you know, the weekly visits, and so I know
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Speaker 2: he wasn't doing anything that he wasn't supposed to be
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Speaker 2: doing because he had weekly chickens, all right.
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Speaker 1: And did he express any concerns or fears or you're
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Speaker 1: you're talking a little bit about conflicts. Is there anything
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Speaker 1: specific that he said about any of these conflicts in
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Speaker 1: the days and weeks leading up to when he disappeared.
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Speaker 2: Well, when I had when I had found out that
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Speaker 2: the guy that has started working for the same company
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Speaker 2: that he was working for was the same guy that
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Speaker 2: he got in trouble with a few years back, I
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Speaker 2: had told Tody, you know, hey, look, if I catch
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Speaker 2: you around him, you know, since y'all work together, there's
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Speaker 2: not a whole lot I can do about that. But
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Speaker 2: if I see y'all around one another, I have no
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Speaker 2: problem with the one and confronting this guy and telling
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Speaker 2: him stay away and Cody had it. You know, he
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Speaker 2: was like, Mom, please don't do that. He's like, if
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Speaker 2: you do that, he's like, it might cause trouble. He's like,
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Speaker 2: you know, I'll just stay away from him as much
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Speaker 2: as I can. And I was like, okay, you know
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Speaker 2: that that was fine with me, you know, because me
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Speaker 2: and Cody had such a good relationship. You know, if
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Speaker 2: he told me he was going to do something, that's
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Speaker 2: what he did. So when he said that he would
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Speaker 2: just stay away from the guy, you know, other than
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Speaker 2: of course they worked for the same company. Then I
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Speaker 2: told him that was okay, but he did not want
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Speaker 2: me to go confront this guy.
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Speaker 1: Now I would, And can you walk us through the
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Speaker 1: last time you saw or spoke to him.
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Speaker 2: It was a Friday night. I had to work the
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Speaker 2: next morning and Cody had to work the next morning.
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Speaker 2: So I went to get ready to go to bed,
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Speaker 2: and I told him, My said, son, don't stay up
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Speaker 2: too late because you have to work in the morning.
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Speaker 2: And he said, I know, Mom. He said, I'm fit
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Speaker 2: to take a shower and I'm going to bed. So
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Speaker 2: I told him I loved him. He told me he
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Speaker 2: loved me, and I went to bed and he went
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Speaker 2: and got the shower, and that was the last time
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Speaker 2: I slee him. He went to he went to work
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Speaker 2: the next morning. Does this is where things start getting
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Speaker 2: odd because the boss man called me Saturday morning and
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Speaker 2: was warner him where Cody was at Well, I told
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Speaker 2: him Cody was at work, because well that's where he
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Speaker 2: was supposed to be. And he said that the truck,
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Speaker 2: the company truck, was there, but Cody was not, and
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Speaker 2: then everything just that's when everything just got weird. You know.
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Speaker 2: That's because the same guy that I told him to
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Speaker 2: stay away from, what's the same guy that he was
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Speaker 2: with the weekend he would miss He was actually the
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Speaker 2: last person to see Cody.
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Speaker 3: Was that person in work that day.
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Speaker 2: He was also I guess he was supposed to work
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Speaker 2: that day and he didn't show up because the boss
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Speaker 2: man called me back and was asking me, you know,
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Speaker 2: he was like, hey, you know I called see He's
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Speaker 2: like I just got He's like I called said that
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Speaker 2: he hadn't seen Cody but called in for the day
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Speaker 2: and I was like okay. So at this point we
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Speaker 2: started looking for cod and then next thing I know,
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Speaker 2: you know, I get off work, I come home, I'm
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Speaker 2: waiting on Cody to get home and he doesn't come home.
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Speaker 2: So now, you know, at that point, I'm concerned of
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Speaker 2: where's he at because he dropped the truck off at work,
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Speaker 2: but I guess he left with because after that, nobody
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Speaker 2: really knows what happened. Nobody knows for sure what happened
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Speaker 2: after Cody dropped the truck off Saturday morning, but the
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Speaker 2: last people that he was with was now when they
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Speaker 2: were interviewed by the police, they had admitted to the
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Speaker 2: police that they had I guess they were smoking mojo
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Speaker 2: or the little fake weed cigarette to get out of
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Speaker 2: the grocery convenience store, and they admitted that they had
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Speaker 2: laced it with myth, which was then at that point
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Speaker 2: became mine and the cops is biggest concern because Cody
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Speaker 2: doesn't do drugs, so when you give you can't well
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Speaker 2: you shouldn't give anybody something without them knowing what you're
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Speaker 2: giving them. So Saturday goes by, hatting heard from Cody.
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Speaker 2: I get up Sunday morning, you know, so Saturday night
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Speaker 2: would go out with riding a Browntown. We're looking for
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Speaker 2: him nothing. I had to work Sunday morning. I went
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Speaker 2: to work. The boss man called me again and was
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Speaker 2: saying that the or had said that Cody had stole
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Speaker 2: the work truck. And again this is where it gets
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Speaker 2: very weird, because why would you drop off a truck
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Speaker 2: that the boss man knows you have to take a
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Speaker 2: different truck.
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Speaker 3: So wait a second, make sure I want to make
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Speaker 3: sure we're telling the story where people can understand it.
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Speaker 3: So he dropped off his assigned truck. Yeah, and then
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Speaker 3: was the other truck missing at the same time, or
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Speaker 3: that they did somebody come back for something?
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Speaker 2: Apparently he dropped off his sign truck that he had.
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Speaker 2: And then on Sunday I get a call from the
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Speaker 2: boss man fan that Cody had said that Cody had
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Speaker 2: came back to the job and took a different.
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Speaker 3: Truck and it wasn't noticed it was missing earlier.
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Speaker 1: No cameras or anything.
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Speaker 2: No we So I left work, went up there to
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Speaker 2: the shop and I'm talking to the boss man. There's
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Speaker 2: no chambers at the shop. There's no GPS on any
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Speaker 2: of the trucks, you know. And as me and the
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Speaker 2: bossman are talking, you know, he's showing me where a
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Speaker 2: piece of a door had been broke. But like I
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Speaker 2: told him, Cody has a key to the shop.
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Speaker 3: Why would he break the door exactly?
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Speaker 2: Why would he break the door when he has a key.
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Speaker 2: Why would he take the truck that he's not supposed
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Speaker 2: to have when he dropped off the truck that he
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Speaker 2: was supposed to have. Wow, And that's where things start
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Speaker 2: to get Really.
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Speaker 3: It's getting strange, Yes, for sure. The other thing of
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Speaker 3: any business owners are listening to me that have company trucks,
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Speaker 3: could they please put GPS on the freaking drugs because
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Speaker 3: this is the second case center row where we have
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Speaker 3: a missing truck and new and work truck and nothing's
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Speaker 3: nothing's low jacked or GPS or anything exactly.
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Speaker 2: So then I go and at this point, you know,
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Speaker 2: the probation officer, he's also contacting me, and you know,
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Speaker 2: I'm you know, I'm like, sir, I don't know, like
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Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure this out myself. So we went
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Speaker 2: back out. We had brand and then was the last
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Speaker 2: two guys that was with Cody when he went missing,
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Speaker 2: and I had spoke with them, but at the time
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Speaker 2: I didn't know that's who they were. I just seen
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Speaker 2: them in a company truck. So I turned around and
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Speaker 2: started asking them questions. Well, then Sunday says that he
15:55
Speaker 2: called the police because he states that he's seen Cody
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Speaker 2: take the truck, and again it's not making any sense.
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Speaker 2: And so you know, now we're all looking for Cody.
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Speaker 2: You know, the police are looking for him, I'm looking
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Speaker 2: for him, and we do eventually find the truck. We
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Speaker 2: find the truck on Tuesday, and they brought the K
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Speaker 2: nine dogs out and Cody sent was inside the truck,
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Speaker 2: which would be normal because it's a work truck. You know,
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Speaker 2: he's in and out of all these trucks. But the
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Speaker 2: K nine could not find his scent outside of the truck.
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Speaker 2: And the truck had been abandoned with all of the
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Speaker 2: windows busted out of it, which again didn't make any
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Speaker 2: sense to me. You know, why Bob was all the
16:38
Speaker 2: windows busted out of it? Why can the K nine
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Speaker 2: not pick up a scent outside of the truck? And
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Speaker 2: then then things just got really weird. H So then
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Speaker 2: the police started talking to well, so on Tuesday, when
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Speaker 2: I had went found a natural missing person's report because
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Speaker 2: it had then been over for eight hours that I
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Speaker 2: had not seen Cody, and so go up there if
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Speaker 2: I'm on missing person's report, and that's when I find
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Speaker 2: out that brothers, Oh, okay, yeah, and as a former
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Speaker 2: police officer out of Calhoun County. So now things is
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Speaker 2: getting really odd because we still at this point cannot
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Speaker 2: find Tody. And they say that, like I said, they
17:26
Speaker 2: admitted to adding drugs to the synthetic whatever it was
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Speaker 2: that they were smoking, they geted to adding drugs to it.
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Speaker 2: They said. After that, Cody began to hallucinate. And they
17:39
Speaker 2: said that he started hollering about seeing things and hearing
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Speaker 2: things that wasn't there, and then he became very paranoid.
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Speaker 2: So and I'm like, okay, well, dere end this time.
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Speaker 2: Y'all have apparently wrote from where they say they went,
17:57
Speaker 2: y'all rode by my house at least four times. Why
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Speaker 2: didn't you drop him off? Nobody thought to drop him off?
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Speaker 2: If he's hallucinatan, then he's paranoid, nobody thought bring him home.
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Speaker 1: And theoretically they're all driving around in this work truck.
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Speaker 1: That's not Cody's truck, it's the other truck.
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Speaker 2: Well, they're in it. They're all riding around in a
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Speaker 2: private truck that is owned by either it was owned
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Speaker 2: by one of them. And so all I'm assuming from
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Speaker 2: what I'm understanding from the police reports and from what
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Speaker 2: was saying, is that all day Saturday they were riding
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Speaker 2: around and one of the brother's personal vehicle. Sunday, they
18:37
Speaker 2: for whatever reason take Cody back to the shop and
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Speaker 2: that's when he apparently took the truck. So but on
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Speaker 2: you know, during this time, I'm trying to call Cody
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Speaker 2: because he has his cell phone, so I'm trying to
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Speaker 2: call him. It keeps going straight to voicemail. Well then
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Speaker 2: you know, some calling some of Cody's friends and like, hey,
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Speaker 2: this is what's going on. Can't find him. Have y'all
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Speaker 2: seen him? Is One of his friends said, well, yes,
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Speaker 2: you know, say he called me, but he sounded very strange,
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Speaker 2: and then the phone cut out. He said, When I
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Speaker 2: tried to call him back, it went straight to voice smelt.
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Speaker 2: And then somehow or another, the boss man ended up
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Speaker 2: with Cody's cell phone. I don't know if maybe Cody
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Speaker 2: lifted their Saturday or maybe he found it on Sunday,
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Speaker 2: but he ended up with Cody's cell phone, which he
19:27
Speaker 2: turned over to the police, you know, because at that point,
19:30
Speaker 2: you know, we're trying to pull in there, trying to
19:32
Speaker 2: pull any information off of that. They can to try
19:35
Speaker 2: to figure out what's going on, and I said, it
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Speaker 2: just gets just gets very weird. Then the brothers claim
19:43
Speaker 2: that Cody bought another cell phone, which was very odd
19:46
Speaker 2: because he had just got that cell phone, like maybe
19:48
Speaker 2: three weeks prior to all this. But they claimed that
19:51
Speaker 2: Cody had went to the dollar store and bought another
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Speaker 2: cell phone. Well, nobody was able to find this cell phone.
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Speaker 2: And then three months after all of this happens, one
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Speaker 2: of the brothers take the police out there to where
20:03
Speaker 2: they say they seen Cody throw the cell phone, which
20:06
Speaker 2: arose more questions from why didn't you say this in
20:09
Speaker 2: the beginning, Why did you wait three months later to
20:12
Speaker 2: say anything about the second cell phone? So it's like
20:16
Speaker 2: I said, it just it gets really weird. Everything they
20:20
Speaker 2: say does not match up to Cody's personality at all.
20:24
Speaker 1: So it sounds like you have quite a bit of information.
20:27
Speaker 1: I'm really curious how you got this information. Was it
20:31
Speaker 1: told to you by someone at the sheriff's office. Did
20:34
Speaker 1: you actually read police reports talk to us about what
20:37
Speaker 1: that looked like.
20:39
Speaker 2: I got my information through our sheriff in Liberty County,
20:44
Speaker 2: Dussy Arnold. They never actually showed me any police reports.
20:49
Speaker 2: But I was continuously, you know, going up there, and
20:53
Speaker 2: they were telling me what the other two guys that
20:56
Speaker 2: was with Cody was telling them. But they never actually
21:00
Speaker 2: owed me any police reports about anything. And they did
21:05
Speaker 2: tell me that they gave the guys a lot of
21:08
Speaker 2: techtor tests and they did fail. They filled the part
21:12
Speaker 2: where they asked did they do anything to Cody to
21:15
Speaker 2: harm him? And did they know where he was at?
21:19
Speaker 2: And that was told to me by our sheriff and
21:22
Speaker 2: the detective that was on the case at the time.
21:25
Speaker 3: One thing I'm not super clear on, just make sure
21:27
Speaker 3: I understand the story well enough, is you know, at
21:30
Speaker 3: what point in the evening, because if we know they're
21:32
Speaker 3: out together, these three guys, at what point in the
21:35
Speaker 3: evening and they're no longer together on Sunday.
21:39
Speaker 2: On Sunday, claimed that he took Cody back to the shop,
21:45
Speaker 2: Cody took the truck, and he said that they chased
21:49
Speaker 2: Cody into the woods. They were driving their personal truck.
21:52
Speaker 2: Him and his brother was in their personal truck. Cody
21:55
Speaker 2: was allegedly in the company truck. They claimed they chased
21:58
Speaker 2: him into the woods because she was still hallucinating. He
22:02
Speaker 2: had been hallucinating for apparently two days now, and they
22:07
Speaker 2: claimed that they chased him into the woods, but they
22:11
Speaker 2: lost him. Now from where the dirt road County Road
22:15
Speaker 2: or Forest Road one oh nine, when you go down
22:18
Speaker 2: that road from where they found the truck, there's no
22:21
Speaker 2: way you could have lost him. There's just no way.
22:24
Speaker 2: But they claimed that when they got out into the woods,
22:26
Speaker 2: they had a flat tire. So after that they did
22:30
Speaker 2: not get Cody anymore.
22:31
Speaker 3: And this is the area that's been I'm assumed search
22:34
Speaker 3: by law enforcement. Yeah, and we didn't find anything. It's
22:37
Speaker 3: my understanding that we found his ankle bracelet cut off.
22:41
Speaker 3: That was that done at some other time.
22:43
Speaker 2: That was apparently that was the first time a little
22:47
Speaker 2: over a year ago, but that was the first time
22:52
Speaker 2: by now, it was about two or three years ago.
22:56
Speaker 2: But this time there we didn't find no ankle monitor,
22:59
Speaker 2: you know, when he went missing this weekend, we did
23:02
Speaker 2: not find any ankle monitor. And when they when I
23:05
Speaker 2: contacted the po to ask well, where's the last place
23:09
Speaker 2: that it pinged, he said that the last place that
23:11
Speaker 2: it pined for them was in Liberty.
23:13
Speaker 3: County around the area or somewhere else. They get but
23:16
Speaker 3: they can't do better than that.
23:18
Speaker 2: He just said it was Liberty County. He said it
23:21
Speaker 2: pined in Liberty County and then it went dead.
23:24
Speaker 3: So they know, they're just not providing that information.
23:27
Speaker 2: Correct because a lot of times when I called them
23:32
Speaker 2: to get any information out of them, it's always the
23:35
Speaker 2: same thing. Michelle. You know, we're still looking. We don't
23:39
Speaker 2: have any new information. It's hard to figure out what
23:44
Speaker 2: happened when the only people that are saying anything is
23:50
Speaker 2: and of course, you know, if they did something, they're
23:54
Speaker 2: they're not gonna tell.
23:56
Speaker 1: Are you aware if there are any traffic camera or
24:00
Speaker 1: anything in and around this area where they were supposedly
24:03
Speaker 1: riding around all weekend that may have captured any pictures.
24:08
Speaker 2: See And that was one of the things that was weird.
24:11
Speaker 2: Liberty County did say that they have a picture of
24:15
Speaker 2: the personal truck that they was driving on the Bleatstown
24:19
Speaker 2: Bristol Bridge, the bridge that connects to Liberty County and
24:22
Speaker 2: Calhoun County, that they have a picture of the truck
24:26
Speaker 2: on Saturday crossing the bridge coming back into Liberty County.
24:30
Speaker 2: But then after that they say there was nothing. And
24:34
Speaker 2: when I asked about because after when after they claimed
24:39
Speaker 2: that Cody took the truck and went down to Forest
24:43
Speaker 2: Road one oh nine. That's a long stretch of roads.
24:46
Speaker 2: There's a lot of traffic on the road. Nobody claimed
24:50
Speaker 2: they saw the truck. There was no doorbell calms that
24:55
Speaker 2: caught the truck going down the road. The library, you know,
25:00
Speaker 2: camera doesn't show the truck going down the road. You know,
25:03
Speaker 2: we have a high school and a middle school and
25:06
Speaker 2: a library all on the same stretch road and none
25:10
Speaker 2: of the cameras seeing the truck actually go that way.
25:14
Speaker 2: But the guys that was with Cody that said that
25:16
Speaker 2: they followed Cody to one oh nine, well they're they're
25:20
Speaker 2: the only ones that Well, I don't want to use
25:22
Speaker 2: the word verify because nothing they've said has been accurate
25:26
Speaker 2: or true, but they claim that's where they went.
25:30
Speaker 1: I want to ask a question about the picture of
25:33
Speaker 1: the truck on the bridge. Are you aware if it's
25:37
Speaker 1: able to discern how many people are in the truck?
25:40
Speaker 1: Who's in the truck?
25:42
Speaker 2: They didn't tell me. They said that they do have
25:47
Speaker 2: the truck on camera coming back into Liberty County on Saturday,
25:52
Speaker 2: which would been June to twenty second. That's all that's
25:56
Speaker 2: all they would say. So, you know, and in the
26:00
Speaker 2: very beginning of all of this, I was, I don't know,
26:03
Speaker 2: I'm not really thinking clearly. Like now, I wish there
26:07
Speaker 2: was more questions that I would to ask, but at
26:09
Speaker 2: that point I was just more concerned with finding coding
26:12
Speaker 2: as quickly as I could.
26:15
Speaker 1: Has anyone come out to you with information that really
26:18
Speaker 1: stood out to you that you feel is credible that
26:20
Speaker 1: maybe isn't looked at well.
26:23
Speaker 2: Of course, after that, you know, rumors started to fly
26:27
Speaker 2: very quickly. There was other guys that was mentioned, uh
26:32
Speaker 2: in which I told the police about. And when they
26:36
Speaker 2: went and interviewed these guys, individual guys, because there was
26:40
Speaker 2: like three different ones, they say that that they felt
26:45
Speaker 2: like that these guys didn't have anything to do with it,
26:49
Speaker 2: that they were just repeating things that they had heard
26:53
Speaker 2: from other people. And two of them's in jail, one
26:57
Speaker 2: of them was in rehab. So I've not had a
26:59
Speaker 2: chance to talk to any of these guys, which I
27:04
Speaker 2: was told by law enforcement to be careful because they
27:10
Speaker 2: had not put myself into any kind of predicament where
27:13
Speaker 2: I could put my own self in danger. Of course,
27:16
Speaker 2: my response back question, this is my kid, that's right.
27:20
Speaker 2: I'm not worried about myself. I'm worried about him, right
27:24
Speaker 2: if I'll talk to and do what I got to
27:26
Speaker 2: do in order to find him. But there was tates
27:31
Speaker 2: Hail has been mentioned several times, and every time I
27:36
Speaker 2: mentioned tates Hell to the Sheriff's department because they brought
27:40
Speaker 2: out on Forest Road one oh nine. They've had the
27:42
Speaker 2: K nine dogs and the cadaver dogs out there, and
27:45
Speaker 2: I have mentioned to them to check, you know, why
27:48
Speaker 2: can't we check Tate tates Hell because that has been
27:52
Speaker 2: brought up several times that these guys had did something
27:55
Speaker 2: to Cody and put him in Tate's Hell. But my
28:00
Speaker 2: response back from them is Tate Tail is very large
28:04
Speaker 2: and without having, you know, an entry point to go
28:08
Speaker 2: on that they didn't have the money or the resources
28:12
Speaker 2: to search out there, which is what when he called
28:16
Speaker 2: me in. One of the new detective called me in
28:18
Speaker 2: told me about the remains being found in Walcola County.
28:22
Speaker 2: That's not far from Pate Tail, but one o nine
28:25
Speaker 2: is not far from Tate Tail.
28:27
Speaker 1: We are very familiar with Tateshell. This is the place
28:31
Speaker 1: that we do a lot of fishing and hiking and
28:35
Speaker 1: it is kind of split up across sort of different areas,
28:38
Speaker 1: and there are several roads that go through and and
28:41
Speaker 1: sneak around in there. Is that an area that you
28:43
Speaker 1: know that you knew Cody to go to at all
28:46
Speaker 1: for fishing?
28:47
Speaker 2: Okay, No, No, Cody never went to Tate Tail because
28:51
Speaker 2: if you have my understanding, if you don't know Pate Tail,
28:55
Speaker 2: you will get locked in there real quick.
28:57
Speaker 3: That's that's I say. That's also accurate.
28:59
Speaker 1: I only with Michael.
29:03
Speaker 2: So if you don't know the area, you will get
29:05
Speaker 2: lost in there very quickly. But for Cody to try
29:10
Speaker 2: to make it from one oh nine to Tate Till
29:13
Speaker 2: on his own and on foot, yeah, and being paranoid
29:18
Speaker 2: like they say he was, and hallucinating. If he made
29:21
Speaker 2: it out there, it's because somebody gave him a ride
29:23
Speaker 2: or somebody took him out there. Yeah.
29:26
Speaker 1: So you mentioned a call that you got from a
29:29
Speaker 1: new detective regarding some remains that were recently found in
29:32
Speaker 1: Walcola County. Can you tell us more about that?
29:36
Speaker 2: That was actually it when the Walcola when it made
29:40
Speaker 2: it to Facebook, is when he called me. Detective Tadlock
29:45
Speaker 2: called me because he said that he wanted to tell
29:48
Speaker 2: me before everybody else did. Because of course you know,
29:51
Speaker 2: everybody started blowing my phonee over with take messages and
29:55
Speaker 2: screenshots and calling me right and then after that he
30:00
Speaker 2: told me that he would get in contact back with
30:02
Speaker 2: me because the remains were with the forensics office trying
30:06
Speaker 2: to verify whether it was male or female. I've called
30:09
Speaker 2: him twice since then and I haven't got a call
30:12
Speaker 2: back or text or an email or anything regarding anything
30:16
Speaker 2: about the remains that was found in Wellcola, which is
30:20
Speaker 2: kind of got me a little concerned of because usually
30:24
Speaker 2: they call me back, you know, or I'll call the
30:26
Speaker 2: sheriff and the sheriff of make them call me back.
30:29
Speaker 2: But nobody has responded to my calls or my tags
30:33
Speaker 2: since the Tuesday that the Vollcola remains was found and
30:37
Speaker 2: it hit Facebook.
30:38
Speaker 1: And I think that's two weeks now. I don't think
30:42
Speaker 1: it was last week. Keep calling, don't don't stop calling,
30:46
Speaker 1: keep calling, keep putting the pressure on. If there's one
30:49
Speaker 1: thing that we've learned in our journey with what we
30:52
Speaker 1: were doing, is sometimes that pressure is what it takes
30:56
Speaker 1: and it doesn't always get a response, but eventually something
31:00
Speaker 1: something happens with that. So keep keep the pressure on.
31:03
Speaker 2: And I went far as Cody's grandmother knows a lady
31:10
Speaker 2: that works in the Senator's office. I wrote up a
31:13
Speaker 2: whole paper and gave it to her and she, you know,
31:18
Speaker 2: felt to the senator's pupil And after that, it was
31:23
Speaker 2: maybe within the week after that they had the cadaver
31:27
Speaker 2: dogs out their search and force road one on nine
31:29
Speaker 2: and to make sure that they were doing what they
31:32
Speaker 2: were supposed to be doing. I went down there myself
31:36
Speaker 2: to make sure that they did show up like they
31:37
Speaker 2: were supposed to. And uh, let's see, and the detective
31:42
Speaker 2: Tadlock has called me this one's probably been a little
31:46
Speaker 2: over a month ago and said that there was that
31:50
Speaker 2: the cadaver dogs had picked up, which is kind of
31:53
Speaker 2: odd because cadaver dogs hasn't been out there in six months,
31:56
Speaker 2: so I don't know why they were just now telling
31:58
Speaker 2: me this that the cadaver dogs picked up on some
32:03
Speaker 2: human remains that was out there, and they were going
32:06
Speaker 2: to bring the cadaver dogs back and then they would
32:10
Speaker 2: bring out short of state to start digging. But he
32:14
Speaker 2: also said that those could be remains from you know,
32:17
Speaker 2: Native Americans from hundreds of years ago. They never brought
32:20
Speaker 2: the cadaver dogs back I've called to check on that
32:24
Speaker 2: and keep telling me what We're trying to set up
32:26
Speaker 2: a time with FDL, and I'm like, well, what's taken
32:30
Speaker 2: so long there? Just just take the dogs back out there.
32:36
Speaker 2: So I haven't really got a lot of information out
32:39
Speaker 2: of Liberty County other than them just constantly telling me
32:42
Speaker 2: the same thing over and over.
32:44
Speaker 3: Do you know anything about how they've classified this case
32:47
Speaker 3: like they do they suspect it's just a standard missing
32:51
Speaker 3: person case. Do they think it's foul play is or
32:53
Speaker 3: any Has there been any indication to the direction they're
32:57
Speaker 3: taking their investigation?
32:58
Speaker 2: I have the right now. Depictive Padlock said that it
33:01
Speaker 2: is being worked as a missing person case because somebody
33:06
Speaker 2: from in town had called me and was like, you know, hey,
33:08
Speaker 2: I heard you're switching it to a homicide case. So
33:10
Speaker 2: I called Detective Tadlock and he said no, that they
33:15
Speaker 2: had no evidence to make it a homicide case, that
33:20
Speaker 2: it was still being treated as a missing person case.
33:23
Speaker 3: Okay, good, you know that's a very good question.
33:27
Speaker 1: So what do you wish the public understood about Cody's
33:31
Speaker 1: case that so that it doesn't get overlooked?
33:35
Speaker 2: You know, it's just it's time to bring Cody home.
33:38
Speaker 2: You know, I'm not going to let this just go.
33:42
Speaker 2: Cody is a good person, you know, and he deserves
33:44
Speaker 2: to be back home, and I'm not going to give up.
33:47
Speaker 2: You know, for anybody that knows something, please come forward
33:51
Speaker 2: and say something. You know, there's no information that is
33:55
Speaker 2: too small. Cody is a good person, you know, he's
33:58
Speaker 2: my son, he has siblings, he has a child hisself,
34:02
Speaker 2: So it's you know, it's time for him to come home.
34:06
Speaker 2: We all missing, we all love him, and it's not
34:09
Speaker 2: really much we can do until we find him.
34:12
Speaker 1: You talked a little bit about rumors and somebody calling
34:14
Speaker 1: you saying something was going on that maybe isn't going on.
34:18
Speaker 1: Are there any misconceptions that you're hearing in the community
34:21
Speaker 1: that you'd like to take an opportunity to clear up?
34:24
Speaker 2: Not really everything that all the rumors were the same
34:29
Speaker 2: thing that were saying. You know, it's one of those
34:34
Speaker 2: they told somebody this, then that person told somebody else,
34:38
Speaker 2: and you know, by the time it got back to me,
34:41
Speaker 2: it was basically the same story, just worded differently. Everybody
34:48
Speaker 2: keeps claiming they don't know what happened to Cody or
34:51
Speaker 2: where he's at, and then others claim that others claimed
34:56
Speaker 2: that they hurt him and that they left him out
34:59
Speaker 2: there because you know, there's bears and alligators and codies,
35:02
Speaker 2: and you know, and even if it was an accident,
35:06
Speaker 2: you know, maybe you know, even if you accidentally did
35:10
Speaker 2: hurt him and you just left him there, just come
35:13
Speaker 2: stay where so we can go. They just keep telling me.
35:17
Speaker 2: Law enforcement just gets telling me that there's not a
35:20
Speaker 2: whole lot that they can do considering that we can't
35:23
Speaker 2: find Cody. They do have him running through codes uh
35:30
Speaker 2: NA names. Then they also have him running through something
35:37
Speaker 2: where all these cameras. If it catches the shot of him,
35:41
Speaker 2: it immediately alerts the police. But there's been no use
35:46
Speaker 2: of his bank account. And his bank account was empty,
35:50
Speaker 2: like he had just got paid, so he had over
35:53
Speaker 2: one thousand dollars in there. When we got the uh
35:57
Speaker 2: the bank wouldn't tell me anything. So the you know,
36:00
Speaker 2: if Daly or Liberty County had to get some pairperwork
36:03
Speaker 2: to be able to pull Cody's bank records, there was
36:06
Speaker 2: only like nineteen dollars in there. And there is surveillance
36:10
Speaker 2: from the ATM machine of using Cody's debit card on
36:16
Speaker 2: Saturday and when he was questioned about it, he said
36:19
Speaker 2: that Cody had gave him permission to use his debit card,
36:23
Speaker 2: and until we find Cody, we don't know if that's
36:26
Speaker 2: true or not. But we do have a picture of
36:30
Speaker 2: him off the ATM machine at Cody's bank with drawing
36:34
Speaker 2: money and he withdrew everything.
36:37
Speaker 1: We're sort of.
36:38
Speaker 3: Looking at each other because I'm just going to say it.
36:41
Speaker 3: I mean, I have to edit this part out because
36:43
Speaker 3: I'm very careful about conjecture. I'm like, how are these
36:45
Speaker 3: guys not arrested already?
36:46
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was the death Blame me that with the birthday.
36:50
Speaker 3: On camera, taking out the entire guy's savings. And there's
36:55
Speaker 3: no way I buy that that was permission.
36:59
Speaker 2: I seriously, Okay, coded gate his debit card and allowed
37:03
Speaker 2: him to do that. And when I asked that question,
37:07
Speaker 2: because I was also you know, wondering, you know, if
37:10
Speaker 2: they were they admitted to giving him drugs? Is there
37:15
Speaker 2: nothing that y'all can do, you know, with the video
37:19
Speaker 2: surveillance of him using Cody's debit card. And I was
37:22
Speaker 2: told that they did not want to the first time,
37:27
Speaker 2: I was told they did not want to push the
37:29
Speaker 2: issue too hard because if the guys decided to lawyer
37:32
Speaker 2: up that we would never get any information out of them. Well,
37:35
Speaker 2: if you're worried about them, lawyer enough, then y'all have
37:38
Speaker 2: to know thumbing. Y'all have to be thinking something, Lawyer.
37:44
Speaker 3: We've got camera footage of someone using someone else's debit
37:49
Speaker 3: card and taking all of their money. We've got light
37:52
Speaker 3: detector tests that have been failed, we've got a strange
37:56
Speaker 3: story about truck swapping that can't be corroborated, and we
38:01
Speaker 3: have information where they admit to giving him lace drugs
38:05
Speaker 3: with the drugs lace you know, well, Mojo, I guess
38:08
Speaker 3: cigarettes lace with meth, and that he was hallucinating and
38:13
Speaker 3: running through the woods and they were chasing him and yeah,
38:17
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know why, he said. I'm not
38:18
Speaker 3: a law enforcement officer, but I'm like, this seems pretty
38:23
Speaker 3: open and shut to me.
38:25
Speaker 2: That was my biggest thing when I went to them,
38:28
Speaker 2: and I still asked them, why have we not done
38:31
Speaker 2: anything about it? Because they was arrested like two weeks
38:36
Speaker 2: after this happened on drug charges, but unrelated charges to
38:41
Speaker 2: Cody's case. About three weeks after Cody went missing, left
38:45
Speaker 2: and went moved to Georgia and their brothers and their brothers.
38:50
Speaker 2: So but when they law enforcement tells me that the
38:55
Speaker 2: only reason that they haven't charged them with anything is
38:58
Speaker 2: because it would be mostly misdemeanors. And if this case
39:03
Speaker 2: does turn into a homicide, that those would be the
39:06
Speaker 2: first two guys that they would be looking at.
39:09
Speaker 3: Yeah, and something we've noticed, I mean, ever since we've
39:12
Speaker 3: started this podcast. You know, obviously at Lisa and I've
39:14
Speaker 3: done a ton of research on how law enforcement operates
39:18
Speaker 3: to try to understand what's reasonable it's not reasonable thinking
39:20
Speaker 3: processes and why they approach things a certain way, and
39:24
Speaker 3: to be fair to law enforcement, nobody, homicide cases are
39:29
Speaker 3: incredibly difficult, and so if that's what happened, then going
39:35
Speaker 3: forward with charges with nobody, there is a much larger
39:38
Speaker 3: chance that they walk than if they had a body.
39:42
Speaker 3: And that's I mean, that's the case law shows us
39:45
Speaker 3: that we already know this.
39:46
Speaker 2: And that's what they That's basically the same thing they
39:50
Speaker 2: told me, right that you know, if this turned into
39:53
Speaker 2: a homicide case, they'd rather be able to charge them
39:56
Speaker 2: with a homicide instead of just or taking money. But
40:04
Speaker 2: you know, when that footage, you know, was shown to me,
40:08
Speaker 2: it made sense that one of the other people in
40:11
Speaker 2: the community had mentioned that Cody that they had robbed
40:14
Speaker 2: Cody because since they worked together, they all got paid
40:17
Speaker 2: on the same day, so they knew Cody would have money.
40:21
Speaker 3: Well, we know we robbed him because we have a
40:23
Speaker 3: footage of it.
40:24
Speaker 2: Right, I mean checked, So that's why they you know,
40:29
Speaker 2: it got a lot of I know, there's just a
40:31
Speaker 2: lot of empty hose in the whole situation. A lot
40:35
Speaker 2: of it just doesn't make a whole lot of sense
40:39
Speaker 2: to me anyway, you know, Like, ah, there was like
40:43
Speaker 2: and then one of them just leaves, you know, just
40:47
Speaker 2: leaves the whole state. Yeah, I mean, was that not
40:49
Speaker 2: a red flag that you know, maybe we should be
40:54
Speaker 2: keeping an eye on this guy? Or and why wait
40:57
Speaker 2: three months later to take the cops out there where
41:01
Speaker 2: Cody apparently threw the cell phone because then there was
41:04
Speaker 2: they couldn't pull anything off of it because it had
41:06
Speaker 2: been damaged.
41:07
Speaker 3: So bad, so they found it.
41:09
Speaker 1: There is a phone though.
41:10
Speaker 2: They they did find the phone.
41:12
Speaker 3: Okay, I didn't catch that when you first mentioned it.
41:14
Speaker 2: Okay, there there's actually the two phones. The first phone
41:19
Speaker 2: that Cody had that they're both men found, which was
41:22
Speaker 2: turned into the police and sent to FDL E. The
41:25
Speaker 2: second phone is a phone that Cody bought from the
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Speaker 2: dollar store, which wouldn't make any sense. Why would you
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Speaker 2: buy a cheap phone when you had an iPhone? The
41:36
Speaker 2: iPhone ten? And then he they claimed they saw him
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Speaker 2: throw the phone, but it was three months later that
41:44
Speaker 2: they took law enforcement out there and showed them where
41:48
Speaker 2: they had where Cody through the phone. But by that
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Speaker 2: point the phone had been damaged so bad they couldn't
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Speaker 2: get anything off of it.
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Speaker 3: Here's what's interesting too that I know about burner phones.
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Speaker 3: They may not really give it anything off the phone itself,
42:01
Speaker 3: but they can certainly tell when the phone was purchased
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Speaker 3: and activated. Do they have that information?
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Speaker 2: They did not sink. They just said they found the phone,
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Speaker 2: send it to fl but it had been damaged and
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Speaker 2: they wasn't able to put anything off of it.
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Speaker 1: Well, and there's cameras on all those stores, so that
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Speaker 1: would be something they could Well, yeah, you.
42:19
Speaker 3: Could confirm number one, did Cody buy it? And number
42:22
Speaker 3: two when and not for what purpose? Obviously, but they
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Speaker 3: could actually track exactly when it was act. They can't
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Speaker 3: track when exactly he purchased it. They can track when
42:30
Speaker 3: exactly he activated it.
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Speaker 2: And this is another thing claimed that. And we do
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Speaker 2: have some footage from the dollar Store from Cody inside
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Speaker 2: the dollar Store on Saturday. So on Saturday, we know
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Speaker 2: Cody was still okay, well physically okay, because we do
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Speaker 2: have footage of film in the Dollar Store.
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Speaker 3: Buying the phone.
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Speaker 2: Well, Kate really tell if it's a phone, but he did.
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Speaker 2: It does look like the phone. But then he also
43:04
Speaker 2: had a couple of bottles of water and a tarp
43:07
Speaker 2: because they said that Tody knew he was in trouble,
43:11
Speaker 2: that he was going to run. If you're going to run,
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Speaker 2: what you're gonna walk down the road with the tart
43:18
Speaker 2: kind of battle.
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Speaker 3: Of water, That seemed like a lot of preparation, right
43:22
Speaker 3: and run from what exactly?
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Speaker 2: Like what do you what is it that you're running from?
43:28
Speaker 2: Because you know, I mean, yeah, Grandy Hue would have
43:31
Speaker 2: been in trouble, but not like to the point he
43:35
Speaker 2: would would go to prison or anything like that. You know,
43:37
Speaker 2: they would probably just would have cut his curfew back,
43:40
Speaker 2: you know, earlier and to the day. And it's his
43:43
Speaker 2: PO like hege like I said, he had to go
43:45
Speaker 2: check in once a month, and his PO would just
43:47
Speaker 2: periodically just drop in and Cody was always here, always
43:51
Speaker 2: made all of his appointments. His PO talked very highly
43:54
Speaker 2: of him. You know, Cody had a job, held down
43:56
Speaker 2: the job, went to work every day, you know, was
44:00
Speaker 2: paying the PO you know, like he's supposed to. You know,
44:03
Speaker 2: he was doing everything right. So what happened in that
44:08
Speaker 2: one day that turned everything around?
44:11
Speaker 1: Is there anything else that you wanted to share that
44:13
Speaker 1: we didn't give you an opportunity to talk about that.
44:16
Speaker 2: Well, I've noticed that some of the posts that have
44:21
Speaker 2: been made by other people in the community says to
44:25
Speaker 2: approach Cody with caution. Tody is harmless. He is not
44:30
Speaker 2: going to hurt anybody. He would never hurt anybody. You know,
44:34
Speaker 2: he would give you the shirt off of his back
44:36
Speaker 2: before he would even try to hurt somebody. So and
44:42
Speaker 2: then one other thing that I just thought about was
44:46
Speaker 2: I had also reported to the police that Cody at
44:49
Speaker 2: some point had made this statement that that he would
44:53
Speaker 2: kill a cop. Tody would never hurt anybody, Like I
44:56
Speaker 2: told the officers, that's a lie, that that that is
44:58
Speaker 2: a straight up life me. That sounded more like if
45:01
Speaker 2: y'all did find him, they want y'all to just automatically
45:04
Speaker 2: open fire on him. He's not even allowed to have
45:06
Speaker 2: a gun, and he had no wippons when he went missing,
45:09
Speaker 2: So what is he going to hurt anybody with?
45:14
Speaker 1: Thank you for listening to Michelle tell about her son, Cody,
45:17
Speaker 1: and we'd like to appreciate her again for coming on
45:19
Speaker 1: with such courage as we can imagine this is a
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Speaker 1: very challenging time for her. At the time of his disappearance,
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Speaker 1: Cody was twenty two years old, weighed one hundred and
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Speaker 1: thirty five pounds, and was five foot eight. He was
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Speaker 1: described as a white male with brown hair and brown eyes.
45:36
Speaker 1: Cody has a tattoo of the letter C on his
45:39
Speaker 1: shoulder and a tiny cross on his right wrist. If
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