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The ET-Fertilizer Connection · UFOS & PARANORMAL WITH PRESTON DENNETT

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  Speaker 1: Hello everyone. My name is Preston Dennett, and welcome to
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  Speaker 1: a new episode of UFOs and the Paranormal. We've got
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  Speaker 1: a very interesting and unusual episode view today. I call
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  Speaker 1: this one the ET fertilizer connection. This is a very
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  Speaker 1: unusual and bizarre aspect of UFO research that I don't
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  Speaker 1: believe has ever been explored before. And yet there are
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  Speaker 1: some cases where there does seem to be a connection
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  Speaker 1: between ets and fertilizer. A few of these cases are
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  Speaker 1: well known, but some are virtually unheard of, and I
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  Speaker 1: definitely found out some interesting things. And because this hasn't
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  Speaker 1: received really any attention, I thought this would be a
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  Speaker 1: great topic for an episode on this show. So let's
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  Speaker 1: just get started. And the first case I want to
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  Speaker 1: talk about is probably one you've heard before. It's the
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  Speaker 1: first reported UFO abduction ever, and this is the case
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  Speaker 1: of Betty and Barney Hill, who had a UFO contact
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  Speaker 1: experience in nineteen sixty one in the White Mountains of
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  Speaker 1: New Hampshire. And there is this really strange connection with
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  Speaker 1: fertilizer that is not well known. So that's why I
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  Speaker 1: wanted to really dig deeper into this because this was
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  Speaker 1: the first case that really reported this bizarre connection. On
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  Speaker 1: September nineteenth, nineteen sixty one, a momentous event occurred which
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  Speaker 1: generated headlines across the world and forever changed the way
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  Speaker 1: humanity viewed the UFO phenomena. And this is of course
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  Speaker 1: the case of Betty and Barney Hill, who experienced two
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  Speaker 1: hours of missing time while driving through the White Mountains
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  Speaker 1: of New Hampshire. In the days and weeks that followed,
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  Speaker 1: they became increasingly concerned about the missing time aspect of
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  Speaker 1: their encounter. Betty was having dreams about being taken on board,
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  Speaker 1: and Barney himself was suffering from anxiety and his condition
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  Speaker 1: of hypertension and his stomach ulcers both worsened. And there
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  Speaker 1: was various bits of evidence that proved that they had
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  Speaker 1: had more than just a sighting. There was Barney's scuffed shoes,
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  Speaker 1: that he's torn dress, unexplained shiny spots on their car,
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  Speaker 1: and more so, after seeking health, they decided to undergo
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  Speaker 1: hypnotic regression and the now world famous case was revealed.
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  Speaker 1: So this case introduced the world to the idea of
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  Speaker 1: onboard UFO encounters, and before long, hundreds and then thousands
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  Speaker 1: of similar cases started coming in from all over the world.
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  Speaker 1: But again, what many people don't know about is this
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  Speaker 1: weird fertilizer connection. And his best selling book The Interrupted Journey,
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  Speaker 1: John G. Fuller wrote that the trip through the mountains
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  Speaker 1: had been an impulsive idea and it was a largely
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  Speaker 1: the unplanned adventure to fill the short vacation that the
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  Speaker 1: Hills were enjoying from their place of employment. And on
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  Speaker 1: the morning of the trip, the Hills loaded up their
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  Speaker 1: trunk with supplies, and as John Fuller writes and I quote,
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  Speaker 1: as he loaded the trunk, Barney shoved a bag of
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  Speaker 1: bone meal fertilizer to one side and packed the luggage
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  Speaker 1: around it. Betty had bought the fertilizer to work on
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  Speaker 1: the garden during the vacation. It was just as easy
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  Speaker 1: to let it stay in the trunk as to take
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  Speaker 1: it out later. They were to find this comfortable homeye material,
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  Speaker 1: creating an unusual inquiry and speculation. So following this encounter,
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  Speaker 1: Betty and Barney Hill actually went to visit Betty's sister
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  Speaker 1: to talk about the encounter, and Betty's niece, Kathleen Marden,
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  Speaker 1: remembers the event vividly. Kathleen Marden has written extensively on
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  Speaker 1: her own aunt's case. She's now a prominent UFO researcher
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  Speaker 1: in her own right, and in a two thousand and
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  Speaker 1: one interview, Kathleen described what happened when Betty came over
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  Speaker 1: shortly after this encounter. As Kathleen Martin says, Betty compass
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  Speaker 1: in hand led us to the street where her nineteen
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  Speaker 1: fifty seven blue and white Chevy Bell Air was parked.
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  Speaker 1: My mother, brother Glenn, and I peered curiously at several
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  Speaker 1: highly polished half dollar sized circles while we took turns
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  Speaker 1: lifting my youngest brother, Tommy, high enough to see. Betty
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  Speaker 1: demonstrated the car's effect upon the compass, starting at the
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  Speaker 1: hood and running it over the side, back and trunk.
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  Speaker 1: We watched as the needle spun wildly over the spots,
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  Speaker 1: but not on the side. My mother spied Glenn and
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  Speaker 1: myself feutally attempting to rub the spots away, and cautioned
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  Speaker 1: us not to touch them for safety reasons. My mother,
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  Speaker 1: who was careful not to jump to erroneous conclusions, suggested
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  Speaker 1: that perhaps something inside the trunk was having an effect
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  Speaker 1: on the compass. Betty opened it and we looked at
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  Speaker 1: the bag of fertilizer that she had purchased but not removed.
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  Speaker 1: I don't remember how the needle reacted when she placed
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  Speaker 1: it over the bag. My mother was again becoming apprehensive
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  Speaker 1: about our possible exposure to radioactive material, so we were
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  Speaker 1: quickly shuffled back into the house. We found seats in
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  Speaker 1: the large living room on the opposite side of the
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  Speaker 1: room from my father and Barney, and Betty explained the
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  Speaker 1: details of her sighting while we listened intently asking questions
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  Speaker 1: to satisfy our curiosity. So this is important because Kathleen
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  Speaker 1: Martin does verify that there was this bag of fertilizer
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  Speaker 1: in the Hill's trunk. So the Hills encounter, of course,
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  Speaker 1: attracted the attention of numerous researchers and scientists who were
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  Speaker 1: studying the UFO phenomenon, and among them were Robert Hohman,
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  Speaker 1: a science writer, and C. D. Jackson, a senior engineer.
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  Speaker 1: These were both UFO researchers who were among the first
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  Speaker 1: to talk to the Hills, and they were hoping to
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  Speaker 1: obtain new insights into UFOs and their possible extraterrestrial origins.
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  Speaker 1: So these two men, Homan and Jackson, questioned Hills extensively
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  Speaker 1: and were particularly impressed by the missing time aspect of
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  Speaker 1: their story. And it appeared to Betty and Barney Hill
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  Speaker 1: that the men were familiar with other such encounters, and
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  Speaker 1: they questioned them about every aspect of their UFO experience.
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  Speaker 1: But it was one particular question which caught both Betty
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  Speaker 1: and Barney by surprise. John Fuller writes about this in
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  Speaker 1: his book, and I'm quoting John Fuller here, as he says,
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  Speaker 1: Holman and Jackson inquired about many facets in the case
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  Speaker 1: that puzzled Barney, particularly an inquiry as to whether there
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  Speaker 1: were any nitrates or nitrate derivatives in the Hill's car.
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  Speaker 1: The only thing I could think of that possibly had
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  Speaker 1: some connection with nitrates, Barney later said, was gunpowder. I
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  Speaker 1: did have about a dozen shotgun shells in the car,
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  Speaker 1: left over from a trip to the south when I
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  Speaker 1: had practiced shooting at tin cans on my uncle's farm,
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  Speaker 1: But aside from that, I couldn't think of anything. The
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  Speaker 1: reason they were asking, they said, was that in several
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  Speaker 1: close encounters, the people have been in rural areas where
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  Speaker 1: they were exposed to nitrates or nitrate fertilizer. Then it
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  Speaker 1: hit us Betty had left the bone meal fertilizer in
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  Speaker 1: the trunk before the trip, and I hadn't bothered to
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  Speaker 1: take it out. Now, who knows, Maybe it does have significance,
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  Speaker 1: maybe it doesn't. It was interesting that they should bring
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  Speaker 1: it up when we had forgotten all about it, and
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  Speaker 1: they asked a lot of other questions that started me thinking,
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  Speaker 1: questions like did we have anything new in the car,
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  Speaker 1: any new object, and had it disappeared? There had been
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  Speaker 1: reports apparently of people having clothes sightings and something they
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  Speaker 1: had recently purchased had disappeared. They asked if anything had
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  Speaker 1: disappeared out of our car, but this was two months
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  Speaker 1: later and we had a lot of junk in there
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  Speaker 1: and I couldn't remember. Although Betty didn't realize it at
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  Speaker 1: the time, she did in fact have something disappear. She
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  Speaker 1: had been wearing ear rings at the time of her encounter,
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  Speaker 1: and after her encounter they were missing. This was a
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  Speaker 1: fact she wasn't aware of until the ear rings reappeared
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  Speaker 1: mysteriously inside a pile of leaves on the kitchen table.
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  Speaker 1: This was actually shortly after the visit with Homan and
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  Speaker 1: Jackson that the ear rings reappeared. The house was unoccupied
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  Speaker 1: at the time, so Betty had no idea how these
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  Speaker 1: earrings could have reappeared. But like Barney, Betty was really
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  Speaker 1: puzzled by Homan and Jackson's question about nitrates. As Betty says,
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  Speaker 1: and I quote, their questions were so far out that
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  Speaker 1: I just couldn't see what relationship they had to our
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  Speaker 1: experience and this business of nitrates. At that time, I
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  Speaker 1: had all kinds of plants in the house. In fact,
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  Speaker 1: in the living room I had an avocado tree that
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  Speaker 1: touched the ceiling. They walked around to look my plants
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  Speaker 1: over and asked me what kind of fertilizer fertilizer I
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  Speaker 1: used on them, and things like this. So in their
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  Speaker 1: book on the Hills Case, Stanton Friedman and Kathleen Martin
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  Speaker 1: write about the possible fertilizer connection. As they write, he
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  Speaker 1: meaning Homan, asked Barney if he or anyone in his
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  Speaker 1: family had any association with the night nitrates industry. The unexpected,
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  Speaker 1: out of context question elicitated elicited a response of mild
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  Speaker 1: un he Homan asked Barney if he or anyone in
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  Speaker 1: his family had any association with the nitrates industry. The
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  Speaker 1: unexpected out of context question elicited a response of mild
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  Speaker 1: annoyance in Betty. Then she realized she did have nitrates
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  Speaker 1: in the trunk of her car, a bag of fertilizer.
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  Speaker 1: Betty wondered why the occupant of an extraterrestrial craft would
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  Speaker 1: be drawn to nitrates during her lifetime. This question was
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  Speaker 1: never satisfactorily answered, So this remains the question. Could the
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  Speaker 1: presence of fertilizer have been a factor, because it's clear
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  Speaker 1: that Homan and Jackson thought there might be a connection,
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  Speaker 1: and that they uncovered previous cases which apparently did have
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  Speaker 1: this connection. So as you can see, this connection in
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  Speaker 1: that case certainly has not been fully verified. But there
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  Speaker 1: are other cases. And there's another case I'd like to
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  Speaker 1: talk about that is pretty well known. You may have
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  Speaker 1: heard of it. This occurred in Tioga City in New York,
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  Speaker 1: actually in a smaller area outside of Tioga called Newark Valley.
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  Speaker 1: And the main witness in this case is a dairy
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  Speaker 1: farmer by the name of Gary T. Wilcox, and he
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  Speaker 1: had an encounter with a landed UFO and occupants actually
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  Speaker 1: talked to them for almost two hours. And yes, there
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  Speaker 1: is a very strong fertilizer connection in this case. At
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  Speaker 1: ten am on April twenty four, nineteen sixty four, Tioga
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  Speaker 1: City dairy farmer Gary T. Wilcox with spreading fertilizer in
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  Speaker 1: his fields in Newark Valley. As he approached one of
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  Speaker 1: the fields, which was surrounded on three sides by trees,
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  Speaker 1: he was startled to see a large metallic object sitting
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  Speaker 1: in the center of the field, and for a second
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  Speaker 1: he thought it was an old refrigerator, but as he
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  Speaker 1: approached he saw that the shape was wrong. He thought
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  Speaker 1: it might be a fuel tank that had fallen from
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  Speaker 1: a plane, but as he got even closer he could
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  Speaker 1: see it was a large egg shaped object twenty feet
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  Speaker 1: long and sixteen feet wide. He said it was made
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  Speaker 1: of shiny metetal metal and had no apparent windows or doors.
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  Speaker 1: But suddenly, however, two small male humanoids appeared standing next
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  Speaker 1: to the craft. They were dressed in seamless uniforms with
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  Speaker 1: hoods that covered even their faces, and each was carrying
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  Speaker 1: a tray that was heaped full of earth that had
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  Speaker 1: been apparently removed from Garry's field. So as he approached,
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  Speaker 1: one of these figures looked up and spoke and flawless English,
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  Speaker 1: informing him to have no fear. They said that they
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  Speaker 1: were actually from the planet we call Mars, and that
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  Speaker 1: they had already contacted several other people. Wilcox thought for
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  Speaker 1: a second there that somebody was playing a joke on him,
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  Speaker 1: but these figures proceeded to ask him all kinds of questions.
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  Speaker 1: They actually gave him a prediction that a US astronaut
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  Speaker 1: would die. This turned out to come true. But they
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  Speaker 1: appeared to be interested in the fertilizer that Wilcox was
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  Speaker 1: spreading throughout the field and asked him how it affected
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  Speaker 1: the growth of plants, and they said that they got
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  Speaker 1: their nourishment from the atmosphere. And they then asked if
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  Speaker 1: Wilcox would give them a bag of fertilizer, and he agreed,
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  Speaker 1: and he actually turned to go retrieve the fertilizer, and
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  Speaker 1: as he left, the craft suddenly took off. So he
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  Speaker 1: returned with a bag of furertilizer anyway, which he left
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  Speaker 1: in the field, and we checked the next day it
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  Speaker 1: was gone. So he knew that this was an unusual experience.
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  Speaker 1: It was pretty clear to him that this was not military,
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  Speaker 1: and he felt it was his duty to notify the police,
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  Speaker 1: which he did, and seeing that he was sincere. The
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  Speaker 1: police referred him to UFO researchers, and before long his
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  Speaker 1: case began to generate considerable interest. And when Betty and
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  Speaker 1: Barney Hill were discovered to have had a bag of
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  Speaker 1: fertilizer in their car, this was more possible evidence of
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  Speaker 1: a fertilizer connection. So Gary Wilcox was extensively interviewed by
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  Speaker 1: researchers and no inconsistencies could be found in his case.
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  Speaker 1: And as Gary Wilcox says in an interview, I don't
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  Speaker 1: care whether anyone believes me or not. It doesn't mean
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  Speaker 1: anything to me one way or the other. I told
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  Speaker 1: them the police what I saw and heard, and I
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  Speaker 1: thought I should And in another interview, when he was
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  Speaker 1: asked what he thought of people who didn't believe his story,
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  Speaker 1: he said, I know what I saw. We talked for
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  Speaker 1: two hours and we were even joking at times. I
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  Speaker 1: just don't worry about it. I've got nothing to hide,
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  Speaker 1: and if I saw another one today, I would report it.
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  Speaker 1: So despite the bizarre aspects of this case, by all indications,
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  Speaker 1: it's true, and in fact, Gary Wilcox's brother Floyd, was
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  Speaker 1: interviewed as a character witness instead of his brother. If
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  Speaker 1: Gary says this thing happened, it really happened, he has
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  Speaker 1: nothing to gain and a lot to lose by telling
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  Speaker 1: a story like this. I know it to be true,
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  Speaker 1: And in fact, researchers interviewed Gary's neighbors who all said
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  Speaker 1: he was an upstanding citizen. Researcher Marcus Loath has looked
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  Speaker 1: into this case, particularly the fertilizer connection, and as he
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  Speaker 1: says in a quote, it is perhaps the most mundane
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  Speaker 1: aspects of this encounter, as is often the case, that
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  Speaker 1: provide it with the authenticity that appears to envelop this
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  Speaker 1: particular incident, an encounter that would very much appear to
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  Speaker 1: be a cosmic reconnaissance mission, one to gather information about
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  Speaker 1: organic materials of planet Earth, as well as the intricacies
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  Speaker 1: and knowledge of farming and rules of agriculture. The encounter
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  Speaker 1: of Gary Wilcox is certainly one of the most intriguing
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  Speaker 1: of its era. So again, further confirmation of Wilcox's case
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  Speaker 1: is the fact that the prediction given to him regarding
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  Speaker 1: the death of an astronaut did come true, and despite
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  Speaker 1: the bizarre elements of this case, it's considered a classic
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  Speaker 1: Gary actually said that there were certain details he was
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  Speaker 1: not going to reveal because they were too personal or
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  Speaker 1: too sensitive, and that he was going to be investigated
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  Speaker 1: by the airports. And what I'd like to do is
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  Speaker 1: play a small clip, a short clip of an interview
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  Speaker 1: this farmer, Gary Wilcox did, And this audio clip is
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  Speaker 1: about six minutes long, but you'll be able to hear
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  Speaker 1: Gary Wilcox in his own words as he describes his
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  Speaker 1: encounter tend.
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  Speaker 2: O'clock in the morning. I spreading load of an ore
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  Speaker 2: a face go back to the barn there and I kept
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  Speaker 2: seeing this glittering thing. It was about a putting there
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  Speaker 2: a mile away. I guess upon top of the hill.
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  Speaker 2: There's nothing in view. I mean in a way, it's
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  Speaker 2: all open ground, and there's no ice box up there
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  Speaker 2: with her. Something reflected off on that. I looked just
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  Speaker 2: like a mirror shiner in my face there. And I
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  Speaker 2: was going up the top and I hild a thief.
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  Speaker 2: I was ready to paw anyway, and I drove on
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  Speaker 2: up with a director. And as I got up there
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  Speaker 2: about one hundred feet of this glistening thing, I could
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  Speaker 2: see what it was. Uh it was well. I got
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  Speaker 2: a hundred two hundred yards from it there and I
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  Speaker 2: couldn't see nothing. It wasn't no shining or nothing. But
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  Speaker 2: as I went closer I got well, it was within
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  Speaker 2: a hundred feet before I saw anything. This is uh all.
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  Speaker 2: When I took off with about a hundred feet, I
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  Speaker 2: couldn't say it was gone. I mean, uh but it
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  Speaker 2: looked like a wing tank to me at first I
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  Speaker 2: seen them when I was in the service, quite of red.
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  Speaker 2: Uh three tanks off these planes with more egg shape
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  Speaker 2: than anything. It was about twenty foot long, sixteen or
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  Speaker 2: sixteen foot wide, and about four foot deep.
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  Speaker 3: How close did you get to it?
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  Speaker 2: A couple of inches? I was touching it for about
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  Speaker 2: two hours.
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  Speaker 3: Why did the surface look like it was made out
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  Speaker 3: of them?
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  Speaker 2: Olves? Loomed? Them colored whitish colored, had a whitish cast
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  Speaker 2: to it. But it wasn't bright. It was it was shiny,
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  Speaker 2: but it wasn't real bright. It was just like a
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  Speaker 2: dish of some kind of cooking dish. Really about what
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  Speaker 2: it was?
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  Speaker 3: Now? I did a door open before these people came
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  Speaker 3: out of it? How did they year? How did you
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  Speaker 3: meet the little men?
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  Speaker 2: Well? I don't know. I was feeling of the thing
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  Speaker 2: now was just getting ready to come back down, call
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  Speaker 2: the sheriff up and see if something had fallen off
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  Speaker 2: an airplane. But I kind of wondered too, cause it
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  Speaker 2: was off the ground, or about four foot off the ground.
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  Speaker 2: They had decided my noise, and uh, I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: nothing happened. I was touching it there for a couple
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  Speaker 2: of minutes and I was just getting ready to go,
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  Speaker 2: and from underneath it simbolized. I don't know these two
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  Speaker 2: things or men or where they are.
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  Speaker 3: I came.
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  Speaker 2: They were about four foot high. I don't know what
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  Speaker 2: they are or what they who they were, But they
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  Speaker 2: talked to me for about two hours up there.
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  Speaker 3: H do you could perfectly understand that they.
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  Speaker 2: Talk aboutter English than you're talking.
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  Speaker 3: Did they talk with any kind of an accent?
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  Speaker 2: No, no accent or nothing. I spoke with German and
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  Speaker 2: Russian when I was in the service, and with nothing
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  Speaker 2: like either one of them.
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  Speaker 1: Oh.
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  Speaker 2: First thing they said was don't be alarmed. We had
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  Speaker 2: talked to people before, and they were questioning, uh, how
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  Speaker 2: I had seen him and stuff. They were quite concerned
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  Speaker 2: that I shouldn't have seen him within a hundred feet
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  Speaker 2: or so them, and I told him I saw him
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  Speaker 2: way down. Well, spending minor was putting a mile away.
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  Speaker 2: They were quite concerned. They said, I shouldn't have seen
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  Speaker 2: him in the daytime. Right there, I probably laying in
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  Speaker 2: the daytime. They said that they were traveling this hemisphere
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  Speaker 2: of this chip they had. Each one had a tray
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  Speaker 2: in their hands and ship full of grass and stuff
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  Speaker 2: and was side looked like they took the knife and
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  Speaker 2: cut it right on the ground. It's a slab of
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  Speaker 2: it in east train. That's what they were doing. They
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  Speaker 2: had collected an organic material and stuff.
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  Speaker 3: Where did they say they were from.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, this sounds awful silly, I know, but uh,
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  Speaker 2: they told me they were from what I know is
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  Speaker 2: a planet Mars. Every time they spoke of stuff, he
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: referred it to it as I know or as we
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: know here, like as we know her, as we know Mars,
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: and stuff like that.
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: You sound like you find it rather hard to believe yourself.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: No, I know, I was up there for two hours.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: I was touching the thing and talking to somebody I
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: don't know who it was.
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: And you said you talked to them for about two hours.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: Oh, it was probably know and a half. I was
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: up there about two agether, Well, it's They talk about
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: a lot of stuff. Some of that stuff I can't
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: say anything about. Some of them they can, but uh uh.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: They were talking about that people were silly to go
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: into space, that they would never survive there, just as
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: they can't survive here. They said they can only make
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: a trip out every two years or two that were here,
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: that they can't stand in this atmosphere. That these men
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: that would have even a harder time than they though,
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: cause they they were telling me they were much further
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: advance in this kind of stuff than we are. But
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: they were more interested in agriculture, aspects of agriculture and anything.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: They asked me what I was doing about them in
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: order and what I or I got it and what
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: it did and all that stuff. They didn't know nothing
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: about agriculture. They don't have no organic winter or anything
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: like that. Up there. They said, they survive and what
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: they get out of the atmosphere they have. And you
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: didn't stress any point. They made a lot of statements
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: like that, but they never stressed the point. They didn't
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: say how they lived or anything like that.
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: Did you say that there were other things they told
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: you that you cannot reveal. I mean, why not? Why
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: can't you reveal these other things? I guess a better
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: enough why.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: This is being investigated into? Yet?
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: Who's investigating it?
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: We're supposed to be there for its supposed.
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: To coming around and guess what serious You can't tell
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: us what they told you?
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: Oh from me for our own personal reasons?
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: Can you give us an indication of what it was?
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: But what did it concern?
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: Oh? I'm concerned than being here more anything.
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: Did these creatures have features like we do on Earth?
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: They have eyes?
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: They were about four foot car and they had arms
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: and legs and heads where they had features, I would presume.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: So they just had a complete uniform covered everything. I
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: mean as far as seeing features, you can't see anything.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: The voice comes from it from the front in someplace
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I couldn't say it come from the head,
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: or they come from the thumbmaker where I could hear
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: the voice come from a complay here was about four
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: or five feet away from me.
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: The uniforms than Carr is a ship in sort of
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: like a spacesuit.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: Oh fang Car. I didn't touch the uniforms, but they
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: looked to me like the thank kind of so they
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: seemed to go back underneath the hip. The back when
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: went first and the front one turned around. They both
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: went back underneath the ship, and what they went through
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: I don't know, only about sixty second and then thank
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: took off. Ali Stannon's about pick ancers current when they
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: took off.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: So that's the case that I think really cements this
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: bizarre connection between ets and fertilizer. But there are other cases,
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: and there's an really unusual and truly bizarre case that
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: I don't think most people have heard of, and this
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: took place in Irapueta, Mexico, and involves a farmer by
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: the name of Jose Carmen Garcia. Well apparently had a
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: contact with a gentleman who had contact with extraterrestrials and
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: learned some very interesting things about how to grow giant produce.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: This is a bizarre case, but it's apparently pretty well verified,
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: as we shall see. So again, this case is all
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: about a humble farmer by the name of Jose Carmen Garcia.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: He was born in nineteen thirty and when he was
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: seventeen years old, this is nineteen forty seven, so that's
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: a significant year for UFOs. He was seventeen years old
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: and struggling to work his small three acre farm in Irapuoito, Mexico.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: He had inherited the farm from his father, but was
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: really having trouble making ends meet. But his luck changed
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: for the better when he says he met a mysterious
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: stranger who shared an incredible secret with him. This stranger
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: told Garcia a fantastic story that he had been held captive,
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: he said, by tall, fair skinned humanoids living in an
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: underground base beneath a volcano in Mexico. There is definitely
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: a volcano UFO connection, so this is kind of interesting.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: But according to this stranger, the humanoids nourished themselves from
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: oversized vegetables, and that this stranger was able to obtain
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: a quote, secret formula from the etes, which, after his experience,
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: he was able to use to grow vegetables of incredible size.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: And this stranger actually sketched the formula for Garcia on
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: a scrap of paper. This consisted of strange hieroglyphic symbols,
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: and the stranger told Garcia to basically concentrate on the
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: symbols for a period of time and then quote the
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: message would become clear. As the man says, and I quote.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: Concentrate on these writings, and in time you will understand
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: their meaning. It is a magic formula, and by using
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: it you will feed the world. So strange, yes, but
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: Garcia followed the man in instructions, and to his amazement,
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: this formula actually worked. His farm normally began to flourish.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: He began to produce giant vegetables were talking like ten
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: pound onions, cabbages three feet wide and weighing up to
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: sixty pounds, collared greens up to five feet long and
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: two feet wide, and more so. Garcia began selling his
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: vegetables at the local market in Vier de Santiago, and
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: not surprisingly, this caused a local sensation. Garcia's fame grew
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: very quickly as the locals gathered to marvel at his
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: supersized produce. And they were interviewed, of course, and they said,
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: who the vegetables that they had eaten were actually very
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: tasty and nutritious. And Garcia claimed that the incredible growth
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: of his plants was due to this secret formula, and
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: that he used ordinary seeds and no fertilizer at all.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: So the connection with fertilizers somewhat tenuous here, but it's
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: the same subject, so I thought it was deserved in
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: being included here at any rate. This formula's secret apparently
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: is mostly mental and Garcia's accomplishments caught the attention of
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: authorities who tried to duplicate his abilities because there are
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: many photographs of these giant produce, and in nineteen seventy eight,
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: an agricultural ministry official hired agricultural experts and local farmers
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: and they were able to produce about thirty tons of
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: produce per acre. Garcia, however, far exceeded them at one
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: hundred and six tons per acre, so more than three
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: times better. His fame grew very quickly when his story
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: was published in the Arapuito newspaper El Al Lacran and
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: the Mexican magazine in Pacto, and news actually spread to
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: the United States when a gentleman by the name of
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: Bill Robinson, an information officer for San Diego the San Diego,
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: California Police Department, he traveled to Irapuito on vacation and
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: personally met with Jose Carmen Garcia, and in fact, Garcia
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: gave Robinson a giant onion, which he transported back to
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: the United States. And Robinson eventually told the story of
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: his meeting with Garcia in the well known magazine San
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: Diego Home and Garden. So as fantastic as Garcia's story sounds,
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: the existence of these gargantuan vegetables is undisputed. And as
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: I said, there are many photos, many of which were
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: taken by Oscar Eredondo, a photographer, and these photos show
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: Garcia and others posing with his Hugh mungous vegetables. UFO
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: researcher chet Denbeck actually looked into this case. It's from him.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: I heard about it, and as he writes, and I quote,
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: in the UFO community, there's always clamoring for proof and
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: more proof of UFOs and extraterrestrials, yet very little is
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: ever produced in this strange case. The only proof he
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: offers is giant veggies that have scientists scratching their collective
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: heads in wonderment. So there you go, a very strange case,
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: but apparently undisputed. I couldn't find a whole lot of
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: cases that really cemented this fertilizer connection, but there are
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: a few out there. There was another case that occurred
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: on May fifteenth, nineteen eight eighty eight, and this was
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: in Borger, Texas. This is a pretty brief case, but
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: I think it could be significant and definitely points towards
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: a possible connection here. So this case may have only
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: peripheral significance to this subject, but it's very interesting because
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: on May fifteenth, nineteen eighty eight, at eleven twenty a m.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: A witnessed saw a UFO over the Agrium fertilizer plant
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: in Borger, Texas, and according to the anonymous witness, he
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: observed a quote solid chrome disc fly directly over the plant,
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: which at the time was closed for repairs, and as
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: the witness says, it was moving at a pace of
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: fifty to sixty miles per hour. It was so close
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: I could make out the object very clearly. No noise
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: was emitted. So it's an interesting case, but it's not
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: really evident that the object should any particular interest in
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: the fertilizer plant itself, but it did fly directly over it.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: The next case I'd like to talk about definitely shows
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: a connection between UFOs and fertilizer and ets being interested
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: in fertilizer, and this took place in Winstead, Connecticut, on
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: February twenty first, nineteen sixty eight. And this is pretty
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: well verified in that it was researched by major investigators
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: such as Walter Webb, Ted Bletcher, and others. So let's
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: just dive into this case and see what it has
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: to tell us. The main witness in this case is
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: a young girl by the name of miss Anato. She's
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: twelve years old. And again this was investigated by Ted Bletcher,
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: David Webb, and Lawrence Fawcett. It occurred on February twenty first,
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: nineteen sixty eight, in Winstead, Connecticut. And it all began
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: and when miss Amato heard a strange bloop bloop bloop
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: noise outside the window of her home, and her bedroom
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: actually overlooked an abandoned railroad station which was then being
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: used as a storage site for ammonium nitrate fertilizer. Hovering
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: close to the ground beside the building, miss Amato saw
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: a white egg shaped object about the size of the
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: family station wagon. And as she watched, this craft emitted
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: a short beam of light at a downward angle, much
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: like a ramp, she said, And at that point fifteen
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: or twenty little men, each about three feet tall, exited
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: the craft via the ramp. They walked in single file
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: and jumped from the end of the beam to the ground.
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: Each was dressed in a dull silver jumpsuit and wore
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: a fish bowl type helmet. Miss Amato observed them as
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: they proceeded to climb up the side of the building
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: housing the fertilizer, one after another, using a hand over
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: hand motion, almost as if they had suction cups on
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: their hands. But upon reaching the roof, they spread out
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: in different directions, and these little guys appeared to be
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: looking down inside the building through a skylight. At this point,
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: the Windness became frightened by what she was seeing and
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: ran to her bed, hiding under the covers. But the
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: investigators were very much impressed with her testimony, even more
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: so because later that night there was in fact another
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: report in Windstead, Connecticut. It was just one hour later,
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: just past midnight, when Miss Cecilia Brewer and five companions
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: were driving home from work between Windstead and bark Instead.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: Their car engine started to fail, and looking ahead of them,
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: they saw a silver colored domed disc along the left
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: hand side of the highway, just over a forest clearing.
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: They viewed this object from a distance of about one
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: hundred feet and observed a cone of white light coming
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: from the bottom. The dome of the object was lined
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: with rectangular windows which emitted a green light. They watched
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: this object for about fifteen minutes, at which point it
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: flew away. So this is further confirmation of Amato's encounter,
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: given that it occurred so close to her encounter and
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: at pretty much the same time. Another case that points
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: towards e T's interest in fertilizer comes from an anonymous
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: gentleman who posted his sighting to Moufan and he had
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: an interesting encounter in Lee Summit, Missouri, and after seeing
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: UFOs on more than one occasion in this area, he
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: was curious as to why this area was so active,
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: so he started to do an investigation and found out
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: some interesting things. So the main witness in this case
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: I call Stan, He is anonymous, but on August thirty first,
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: twenty fourteen, at eight point fifteen pm, he observed a
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: glowing orb near Lee's Summit, Missouri. And as the witness says,
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: and I quote from my first observation of it, the
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: light given off was really quite brilliant and more yellowish.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: The rays which emanated from it also had a peculiar
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: quality that I normally do not see with light. There
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: was a definition to the rays and they came to
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: a point, so he actually managed to capture the orb
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: on video and intrigue bias encounter. He began to study
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: reports of orbs looking for patterns, and he did find
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: an interesting pattern. As he says and I quote, one
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: of the commonalities is that they appear in areas which
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: are rich in phosphorus, such as certain coast water and
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: other waterways which have run off from fertilizer. Other coincidences
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: of high ORB sightings occur during the Fourth of July
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: celebrations due to the phosphorus and fireworks. So phosphorus is
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: an ingredient often used in fertilizer, and stand began researching
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: the phosphorus levels in the area where he saw the ORB,
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: and he found what he believes is a correlation. As
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: he says, and again I quote, it is now obvious
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: that at least two areas of known phosphorus activity in
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: bodies of water in the Independence Blue Springs Lee's Summit
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: area are also areas of orange ORB activity. Both areas
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: are not restricted, however, to sightings of orange orbs. Many
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: other types of craft happen to frequent the area, so
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: perhaps this is further indication of UFOs and ET's interest
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: in fertilizer. So there could very well be a connection here,
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: but the connection is not super strong. There aren't a
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: whole lot of cases. Phosphorus is of course a element
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: that does turn up quite a bit in UFO landing cases,
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: and of course it is a major ingredient of fertilizer. Interestingly,
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: it's also one of the common elements inside the human body.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: But there are a number of cases where phosphorus does
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: seem to turn up during UFO landings. And there was
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: a very famous cases in Verones, Russia which did apparently
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: have a phosphorus connection, and this occurred on April twenty fourth,
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: nineteen eighty nine. Again, the Verones, Russia UFO landing case
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: occurred on April twenty fourth, nineteen eighty nine. It's very
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: well known, so I won't get too much into it.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: I already did an episode on UFO landing trace cases,
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: so if you want to hear more about this case,
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: you might want to check that out. But I would
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: like to quote researcher Ans Schristava, who had a very
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: interesting insight. As he says, the most interesting fact of
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: all is that the depressions in the ground showed that
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: the object weighed several tons. Radiation was found in the soil,
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: as were unusually high levels of certain elements, in particular phosphorus.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: So once again here's this weird connection. Another case involving
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: a UFO landing with a phosphorus connection comes from Uruguayan
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: researcher Daniel Iglesias. And this is another landing in which
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: phosphorus turns up. As researcher Daniel Iglesias writes and I quote.
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: In a case in the department of Durazno, a witness
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: reported a UFO landing and soil analysis showed an increase
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: in the values of minerals such as chromium, manganese, phosphorus,
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: and carbon, enabling researchers to conclude that the event had
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: indeed been real. Another case involving a UFO landing with
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: a phosphorus connection was reported by researcher Albert Rosales, who
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: wrote a wonderful series of books called Humanoids amongst Us,
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: and he reports on a case that occurred in Georgia, Russia,
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: which does apparently again have this weird connection. So this
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: next case was reported to the Task News service and
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: again involved landing traces. This was on July sixth, two
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: thousand and two, and Albert Rosales did publish a summary
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: of the case and, as he writes, not far from
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: the location where the encounter had taken place, several pezz
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: since found deeply pressed down grass, slightly burned at the
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: edges and circle shaped. Witnesses also reported finding strange crumb
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: like particles which emitted phosphorus light for several days in
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: a row. So these cases are all landing cases which
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: do seem to show this weird phosphorus connection. Again, we
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: are really left with more questions than answers, but such
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: is the nature of the UFO phenomenon. So those are
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: pretty much all the cases I could find involving the
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: et fertilizer connection. I did write about this in my
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: new book Not From Here, Volume four, So if you
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: want to get into a little more depth with these
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: cases and other bizarre aspects of UFO research, you definitely
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: might want to check that out. And uh yeah, I
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: think this shows an area of UFO research that hasn't
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: been explored. And while there aren't a lot of cases,
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: some definitely seem to point towards ET's interest in fertilizer
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: or agriculture in general. In a previous volume of my
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: Not From Here series, I did a chapter on extraterrestural gardeners,
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: and there are hundreds upon hundreds of cases where people
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: have seen UFOs and humanoids collecting plant samples. So that
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: could be a connection here, and I will briefly mention that.
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: Contactee Howard Meer, a sign painter from New Jersey whose
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: case is quite controversial, but his book From Outer Space
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: to You does talk about ET's interest in agriculture and
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: how they are able to grow produce, and he devoted
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: quite a bit of space in his book to this
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: sort of agriculture fertilizer connection and the ETS interest in it. So,
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: for what it's worth, I thought I would mention that.
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: But yeah, there does seem to be a connection, but
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna say it's tenuous at best. With the thousands
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: upon thousands upon thousands of reports, I was hoping I
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: would find more, but the cases like the Tioga City
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: case in New York definitely show that there's an interest there.
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: I do wonder about the Betty and Barney Hill Case
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: and the others I've cited, but at this point I
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: can't really say for sure that there is a strong connection,
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: but there is definitely some interest on part of the ETS.
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: So that's our show for today. I hope you've enjoyed it.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: I want to thank you once again for watching. I
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: truly appreciate it, and until next time, keep searching for
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: the truth, and more importantly, keep having fun.