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Episode #3943 The New Phil Hendrie Show Radio Archive Hour · The World of Phil Hendrie

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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's Radio Archive Hour. It's Larry Grover and
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Speaker 1: Larry the List Boy. from November of 1999.
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Speaker 3: Bill Henry's show here, 1-800-449-8686. And this is an interesting
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Speaker 3: story here that came across the wire, probably not about,
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Speaker 3: I don't know, four hours ago. A man who lives
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Speaker 3: in West Los Angeles is going to court to get
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Speaker 3: his mother to... He's going to go to court to
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Speaker 3: try to separate his mother, at least, from some of
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Speaker 3: the money that was left to her by her late husband,
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Speaker 3: his late father. And we're going to get him on
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Speaker 3: the line here in West L.A., and the gentleman's name
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Speaker 3: is Larry Grover.
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Speaker 4: Mr.
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Speaker 3: Grover, you live in West Los Angeles. You are currently
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Speaker 3: living with your mother? That is correct, yes, sir.
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Speaker 5: When did your father die?
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Speaker 2: Phil, my father passed on three years ago at the
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Speaker 2: age of 67. And at that time... left my mother
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Speaker 2: with a pension as well as his social security and
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Speaker 2: a sizable portion of his estate, which valued at that
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Speaker 2: time in cash, to about $ 800, 000, along with some properties.
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Speaker 2: I am not interested in the properties. What I am
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Speaker 2: interested in is essentially $ 10, 000 of that $ 800, 000 endowment.
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Speaker 5: Did your father leave you any money at all?
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Speaker 2: My father left me $ 100, 000. which I put into a
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Speaker 2: new home that I purchased for my ex-wife. My ex-wife
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Speaker 2: and I divorced a year ago, and she essentially became
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Speaker 2: the beneficiary because of the community law properties in the
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Speaker 2: state of California. She became the beneficiary of much of
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Speaker 2: the cash as well as our home, and that's a
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Speaker 2: whole other story. I have three children with her. And
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Speaker 2: essentially the divorce left me close to destitute where I
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Speaker 2: was forced to move back in with my mother. She
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Speaker 2: lives in the West L.A. area here.
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Speaker 5: How old is your mom?
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Speaker 2: My mother is 65. And how old are you, sir?
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Speaker 2: I'm 31 years old.
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Speaker 3: 31 years of age, and you have moved back in
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Speaker 3: with your mom because of this divorce, because of financial.
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Speaker 5: Do you have a job?
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Speaker 2: I do some part-time consulting work. I do some computer sharpshooting,
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Speaker 2: but right now I'm not employed full-time. But this really
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Speaker 2: doesn't have anything to do, Mr. Henry, with the particulars
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Speaker 2: of my father's estate. It's more or less something that
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Speaker 2: goes back to my childhood... that I had become accustomed
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Speaker 2: to and was trying to reintroduce into our home.
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Speaker 3: Well, you want $ 10, 000 for what?
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Speaker 5: My understanding was.
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Speaker 3: That the $ 10, 000 that you're looking for is for Christmas presents?
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Speaker 2: Well, yes, but it's to make a point. The point
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Speaker 2: is that I moved back in with my mother last year.
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Speaker 2: And at that time, I felt that it was the
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Speaker 2: best thing that I could do for myself and also
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Speaker 2: to give her some support. My father had passed on.
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Speaker 2: She was alone. And I also felt that we could
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Speaker 2: make a home together. The death of my father came
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Speaker 2: very suddenly. He died of a cardiac embolism. He was
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Speaker 2: a healthy man, but he passed on suddenly. And so
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Speaker 2: I felt that moving back in with my mother, I
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Speaker 2: could create a home for the two of us. I
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Speaker 2: just lost my wife and children.
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Speaker 5: Bad year.
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Speaker 2: It had been a very bad year. And I had
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Speaker 2: obviously been out of work for some time as well.
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Speaker 3: You know, the economy is so good. What is going
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Speaker 3: on with your work?
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Speaker 2: Well, because I do some computer troubleshooting. I had been
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Speaker 2: on with Honeywell for a while, but I wanted to
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Speaker 2: go out on my own into my own business. My
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Speaker 2: business did not fare well, so I went into the
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Speaker 2: consulting end of things, and that line of work is
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Speaker 2: very sporadic.
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Speaker 5: So your business went belly up, huh?
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Speaker 2: Well, my business did not do well. It's not been
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Speaker 2: a very easy couple of years, what with my divorce
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Speaker 2: and my business going badly, so I wanted to do
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Speaker 2: something which I felt would.
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Speaker 2: Kind of reinvigorate our family. I moved back in with
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Speaker 2: my mother, and that was on my mind.
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Speaker 4: All right.
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Speaker 3: Now, this goes to a letter to Santa Claus or something.
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Speaker 2: Well, I don't believe in Santa Claus, but I wanted
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Speaker 2: to resuscitate a tradition from my childhood in our home,
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Speaker 2: something that I had always done, and it was kind
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Speaker 2: of a family tradition. I had always written a letter
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Speaker 2: to Santa Claus. and I would give it to my
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Speaker 2: mother or I would give it to my father. And
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Speaker 2: on the letter to Santa Claus, I would write the
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Speaker 2: things that I wanted for Christmas. I wrote, and I
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Speaker 2: thought that it would be, as I said, reinvigorating, resuscitating,
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Speaker 2: or bringing back a family tradition. I wrote a letter
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Speaker 2: to Santa Claus this year. On it, I listed some
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Speaker 2: things that I wanted for Christmas.
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Speaker 3: Let me interrupt you. You wrote the letter to Santa Claus.
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Speaker 3: You don't believe there's a Santa Claus, obviously.
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Speaker 2: Of course not.
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Speaker 5: Okay. But you wanted to do this to Hawaii to.
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Speaker 2: Well, to show, to kind of bring back a family tradition,
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Speaker 2: to get my mother involved in the spirit of the holidays.
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Speaker 2: My mother's never been a real big fan of Christmas,
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Speaker 2: but I know she celebrated it for us. All right.
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Speaker 3: So you wrote this letter to Santa Claus. I mean,
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Speaker 3: you wrote the letter to Santa Claus, but would you
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Speaker 3: give it.
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Speaker 5: To your mother?
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Speaker 2: Well, this is what I'm getting to. I wrote the
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Speaker 2: letter to Santa Claus, and on it I had a
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Speaker 2: wish list of things that I wanted I wanted some
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Speaker 2: shirts and a tool chest, just things that I would
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Speaker 2: want for Christmas. And I walked it into the kitchen.
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Speaker 2: It was a morning about two weeks ago. I walked
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Speaker 2: into the kitchen. My mother was sitting there having breakfast.
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Speaker 2: And I said, Mom, here's my letter to Santa Claus.
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Speaker 2: And I had written it in pencil the way I
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Speaker 2: had when I was a boy. My mother was sitting
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Speaker 2: there eating breakfast. She put down her fork. She opened
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Speaker 2: up the letter. She read it. Now, you have to
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Speaker 2: keep in mind that my mother's never been a very
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Speaker 2: big fan of Christmas, but I thought just the idea
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Speaker 2: that she was reading the letter to Santa Claus, I
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Speaker 2: thought was a lot of fun.
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Speaker 5: Did she say anything?
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Speaker 2: No, she had not said a thing. She simply put
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Speaker 2: down her fork, looked at me, looked at the letter,
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Speaker 2: took it from me, opened it up, started reading it.
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Speaker 2: And then the thing that I think really almost just
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Speaker 2: devastated me to a degree, because this is the cynical
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Speaker 2: nature of my mother, She took the letter after she'd
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Speaker 2: finished reading it, and she made to pretend like she
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Speaker 2: was wiping her private area with it and then put
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Speaker 2: it down on the table and went back to her breakfast.
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Speaker 5: I'm sorry, sir. Are you okay? Okay. Do you want
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Speaker 5: to take a break?
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Speaker 2: I just need a sip of water.
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Speaker 4: All right.
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Speaker 2: I'm fine. I'm sorry. I'm awfully sorry.
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Speaker 3: That's okay. So you gave the letter to your mother.
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Speaker 3: This was a letter that you'd written to Santa Claus
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Speaker 3: because you wanted to just have some.
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Speaker 5: Fun, right?
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Speaker 2: That's all we wanted to do, is have some fun.
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Speaker 2: And she took the letter.
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Speaker 3: And she pretended like she was wiping her, what, her
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Speaker 3: rear end with it?
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Then she put it back down on the table and
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Speaker 2: went back to eating her breakfast. And during this whole time,
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Speaker 2: she didn't say a word. So I have taken legal action.
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Speaker 2: I want to secure... $ 10, 000 from her inheritance from my
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Speaker 2: father so that I can buy myself something for Christmas.
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Speaker 3: But when you gave her the list of toys, what
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Speaker 3: was on the list?
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Speaker 2: Some shirts, I wanted a tool chest, I wanted a
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Speaker 2: DVD player, not anything I don't think out of the ordinary,
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Speaker 2: but stuff that she could certainly get for me. And
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Speaker 2: instead of telling her what I wanted... Has she asked
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Speaker 2: you what you wanted for Christmas? No, she hasn't. That's
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Speaker 2: why I thought I'd do the letter to Santa Claus.
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Speaker 2: And what I'm looking to secure is about $ 10, 000 so
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Speaker 2: that I can secure some of these things for Christmas,
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Speaker 2: or maybe not even that, maybe $ 5, 000. But the problem
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Speaker 2: is that she is not a big fan of Christmas,
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Speaker 2: and I have actually had to go and retain an
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Speaker 2: attorney to look into this.
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Speaker 3: Well, is this about the fact that you want stuff
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Speaker 3: for Christmas, or are you angry at your mother for
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Speaker 3: pretending like she was wiping herself.
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Speaker 5: With the letter?
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Speaker 2: I thought it was a low blow. You know, I
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Speaker 2: gave her the letter to Santa Claus. She reads it
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Speaker 2: and pretends like she's wiping her rear end with it.
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Speaker 2: I thought that that was a low blow. I thought
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Speaker 2: that was insulting. I think it shows a great deal
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Speaker 2: of cynicism.
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Speaker 3: Well, okay, I need to take a break, Mr. Grover,
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Speaker 3: and I know that we want to talk to your
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Speaker 3: mother as well. This is a very, very unusual story
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Speaker 3: of a man who moved back in with his mother
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Speaker 3: at the age of 31 and gave her a letter
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Speaker 3: to give to Santa Claus. He knows that there isn't
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Speaker 3: a Santa Claus. She took the letter and wiped her
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Speaker 3: rear end with it or pretended like she would. He's
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Speaker 3: angry at her now. He wants some money from his
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Speaker 3: father's inheritance to buy some presents for Christmas. This is
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Speaker 3: a grown man and obviously an elderly woman. And this
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Speaker 3: is what's going on in their home. Our number is 1-800-449-8686.
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Speaker 3: If you have a question or comment, 1-800-449-8686. And this
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Speaker 3: is the Phil Hendry Show. Phil Hendry Show at 1-800-449-8686. Boy,
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Speaker 3: the holidays are tough. And we're talking to a guy,
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Speaker 3: because Mike Schaefer pulled this off the wire earlier, a
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Speaker 3: guy who is, he lives with his mother. And let's
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Speaker 3: resist the temptation to knock a guy just because he's
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Speaker 3: back home with his parents. He's suffered a divorce. He's
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Speaker 3: been through a divorce. And I understand that, Mr. Grover,
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Speaker 3: and you've also lost a business. We wanted to get
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Speaker 3: your mom on the line, too. This is Bridget Grover.
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Speaker 3: You live with— Bridget.
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Speaker 5: Is that your home?
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Speaker 2: Yes, it is.
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Speaker 5: Could you speak up, please?
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Speaker 4: Yes, it is.
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Speaker 3: And— Can you tell me why it is you would
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Speaker 3: take a letter from Santa Claus that he wrote just
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Speaker 3: as a way of reinvigorating a tradition?
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Speaker 4: Well, Mr. Henry, I have to say this idea that
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Speaker 4: Larry is reinvigorating a tradition. He knows that I have never, ever,
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Speaker 4: ever enjoyed a Christmas. We did have Christmas for... for
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Speaker 4: him because he was a boy, but I have never
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Speaker 4: enjoyed it.
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Speaker 5: Why did you take the letter and pretend like you
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Speaker 5: were wiping your rear end with it?
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Speaker 2: She can't answer that, Phil.
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Speaker 4: I can answer it. Yes, I can answer that. And
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Speaker 4: the answer is I'm tired. I'm on in years, and
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Speaker 4: I think I'm tired of dealing with his... in infantile fantasies.
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Speaker 2: No, she didn't want to answer the fact that she
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Speaker 2: took my letter to Santa Claus and pretended like she
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Speaker 2: was wiping herself with it.
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Speaker 5: All right, well, I wanted to get her side of this.
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Speaker 5: I'm going to take some phone calls here, 1-800-449-8686.
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Speaker 3: But essentially you're saying, Mrs.
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Speaker 5: Grover, that you're not a fan of Christmas?
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Speaker 4: I enjoy Christmas, but I want Larry to stand up
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Speaker 4: and be a man. I am a man.
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Speaker 2: And I'm trying to be a man.
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Speaker 5: Hold on, sir. And be a man? Ma'am, is that
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Speaker 5: what you're saying?
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Speaker 4: Yes, and try to stand up and be a man
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Speaker 4: and not rely on me for all of this because
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Speaker 4: he's really disgusting me with his behavior. And, of course,
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Speaker 4: certainly I'm humiliated by this pending legal action.
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Speaker 5: All right.
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Speaker 2: 1-800-449-8686.
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Speaker 5: Here's Burbank on the Phil Henry Show.
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Speaker 6: Hello.
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Speaker 4: Hello. Hello.
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Speaker 5: Yes, sir.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I just want to say that I'm, what's the
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Speaker 7: gentleman's name, Mr.
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Speaker 4: Grover?
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Speaker 2: I'm Larry Grover, yes.
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Speaker 4: Oh, okay.
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Speaker 7: I don't know, you have to be ashamed of yourself.
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Speaker 7: I mean, here you're sitting there freeloading, living with your
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Speaker 7: mother anyway.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I understand you have a hard time. I'm
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Speaker 2: not freeloading. I'm not freeloading.
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Speaker 5: Are you paying her rent? 449-8686.
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Speaker 4: Wow.
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Speaker 5: Here is Atlanta on the Phil Henry Show.
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Speaker 2: Yes, sir.
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Speaker 7: I'm sitting here listening to this. I'm absolutely outraged that
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Speaker 7: you could be so disrespectful to your mother, who has
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Speaker 7: been gracious enough to let you back into her home.
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Speaker 2: She raised me. She brought me into the world. She
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Speaker 2: brought me into the world, sir.
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Speaker 7: You are giving her this insane... childish Christmas list because
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Speaker 7: you think she doesn't have the holiday spirit.
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Speaker 2: Because of the fact that she brought.
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Speaker 7: Me into the world. I think that at 31 years
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Speaker 7: of age, that when you're able to get back on
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Speaker 7: your feet and get a job, you go get yourself
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Speaker 7: a DVD player.
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Speaker 2: That's your mother to buy it for you. I'll ask
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Speaker 2: you a question because I gave her that letter to
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Speaker 2: Santa Claus. As a way of having some fun at
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Speaker 2: Christmas time. Nothing more. And she took it and pretended
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Speaker 2: like she's wiping her rear end with it. Take her
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Speaker 2: to lunch. Why should I take anybody to lunch who
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Speaker 2: insults me that way?
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Speaker 7: Instead of doing something insane like giving her a list
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Speaker 7: of things that she can buy for you, why don't
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Speaker 7: you take her to lunch and thank her for letting
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Speaker 7: you come back into her home?
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Speaker 2: And what's wrong with her getting me some things for
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Speaker 2: Christmas that I need?
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Speaker 7: You're 31 years old. You should be buying her things
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Speaker 7: for Christmas.
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Speaker 2: I have moved back into her home to help a sister.
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Speaker 7: Is that a gift to your mother?
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Speaker 2: You're moving back in is not a gift to your mother.
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Speaker 2: I helped a sister after the death of my father
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Speaker 2: three years ago.
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Speaker 5: All right, I'd be willing to give you that, Mr.
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Speaker 3: Grover, that you're helping your mother through a tough time
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Speaker 3: with the death of your dad, okay?
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Speaker 5: But what people are saying.
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Speaker 3: Is, do you really expect her to pay for your Christmas?
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Speaker 2: Why is that such a difficult thing to ask a
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Speaker 2: mother to pay for a son's Christmas?
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Speaker 7: Because you're 31 years old.
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Speaker 8: You're not a child.
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Speaker 2: Don't act like a child. Act like a man. Act
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Speaker 2: like an adult. Do you give your adult friends Christmas presents?
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Speaker 2: I think you do, sir.
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Speaker 7: I don't give them DVD players. I certainly wouldn't try
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Speaker 7: to secure $ 10, 000 from their inheritance because I didn't get
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Speaker 7: my way.
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Speaker 6: Mr.
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Speaker 4: Henry?
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Speaker 1: Yes.
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Speaker 4: I live on a 60 income. I think that Christmas
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Speaker 4: is something for children.
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Speaker 2: If Christmas is for children, then why do adults celebrate it?
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Speaker 4: And I also think that I'm not a religious woman,
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Speaker 4: and I don't know why I should be forced to
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Speaker 4: celebrate this just for the enjoyment of someone else.
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Speaker 3: All right, so in other words, you do not want
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Speaker 3: to celebrate Christmas anymore now that your son has grown up.
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Speaker 4: I think it's strictly for children, yes.
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Speaker 2: Well, then she should never have started it in the
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Speaker 2: first place. She should never have started it in the
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Speaker 2: first place because it got me into a mindset that
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Speaker 2: I like Christmas. Did you grow up? Have you got
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Speaker 2: any kids, sir?
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Speaker 7: Yes, I have two children.
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Speaker 2: All right, and if your kids came to you with
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Speaker 2: a list for Santa and you wiped your butt with it,
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Speaker 2: what do you think they'd say?
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Speaker 5: These are children that the man had. How old are
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Speaker 5: your kids, sir?
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Speaker 2: My children are five and six years old.
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Speaker 5: Five and six-year-old children.
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Speaker 7: I expect my children when they're 18 years old to
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Speaker 7: have their own lives. You know, I don't want my
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Speaker 7: children to live with me. You know, you absolutely have
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Speaker 7: no concept of what it is to be an adult.
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Speaker 2: Wait a second. I'm a man who moves. I know
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Speaker 2: that there's no Santa Claus. I know that I am
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Speaker 2: a gainfully employed man.
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Speaker 3: Well, you're saying that your business went belly up, though, right?
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Speaker 2: My business has gone through some tough times, yes, but
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Speaker 2: I am currently consulting.
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Speaker 5: Is it a regular paycheck?
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Speaker 2: It is not at this time, and I guess what
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Speaker 2: you people are trying to say is that I'm freeloading
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Speaker 2: off my mother. No, no, please don't get me wrong.
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Speaker 7: I'm not disparaging you for moving back.
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Speaker 8: In with your mother, and I'm not disparaging you for
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Speaker 8: your divorce, and.
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Speaker 7: I'm certainly not disparaging you for your company going belly up.
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Speaker 7: All I'm saying is with all of these things that
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Speaker 7: have happened to you, it's time that you pick yourself
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Speaker 7: up and not try to look for comfort in your
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Speaker 7: mother by expecting her to buy you all of these
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Speaker 7: things you really do need to.
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Speaker 2: I was trying to bring back a family tradition.
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Speaker 3: Your mother obviously doesn't want any of that anymore in
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Speaker 3: her house, okay?
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Speaker 5: You're all grown up.
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Speaker 2: I think she's depressed since the death of my father,
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Speaker 2: and I think giving me some presents or having a
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Speaker 2: Christmas tree would be a nice thing.
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Speaker 7: Why don't you give your mother presents?
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Speaker 2: Because right now I'm in between assignments.
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Speaker 7: Okay, your mother's on a fixed income.
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Speaker 2: She doesn't have any future assignments. She's on a fixed income.
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Speaker 2: She's got money from my old man.
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Speaker 5: Okay, thanks. Phil Henry Show will be back.
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Speaker 7: I understand that.
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Speaker 5: In the home. Did you say that?
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Speaker 2: No, I did not threaten.
18:30
Speaker 5: All right, hold on. We're back.
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Speaker 3: Phil Henry Show, 1-800-449-8686. Did you threaten to put.
18:36
Speaker 5: Her in a home?
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Speaker 2: I did not threaten to put her in a home.
18:38
Speaker 2: I came back and moved back in with her to
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Speaker 2: take care of her after the death of my father.
18:42
Speaker 2: I mentioned to her that I wanted these, you know,
18:46
Speaker 2: that I gave her the list for Santa Claus as
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Speaker 2: a way of, you know, of enjoying our Christmas. And
18:52
Speaker 2: I said, you know, she obviously got very contiguous, and
18:54
Speaker 2: I mentioned something about a home.
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Speaker 4: And he said that he would put me in an
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Speaker 4: old folks' home if I didn't see my way clear
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Speaker 4: to honoring the memory of his father and getting him
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Speaker 4: these things for Christmas.
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Speaker 5: Well, that's just flat blackmail, okay?
19:14
Speaker 2: I did not say that.
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Speaker 4: You mentioned the DVD player and the big screen TV
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Speaker 4: because I called him List Boy. And because I made
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Speaker 4: a reference... What did you call him?
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Speaker 2: She called me List Boy, as in, hey, the boy
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Speaker 2: with the list.
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Speaker 5: List Boy?
19:29
Speaker 2: That's correct. She called me Larry the List Boy.
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Speaker 4: And it was a joke, and it was intended as
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Speaker 4: a joke.
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Speaker 2: Well, it hurt me very deeply.
19:38
Speaker 5: Larry the List Boy, because you're making lists for Santa Claus.
19:40
Speaker 2: Because I made a list for Santa Claus, and I
19:44
Speaker 2: said nothing to her when she wiped her rear end
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Speaker 2: with the list. I said nothing to her about any
19:48
Speaker 2: of that. But I i i have uh.
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Speaker 3: But you're you're considering some legal action so yes you
19:53
Speaker 3: are doing certain things against her you are getting angry
19:55
Speaker 3: you are uh plotting plotting retribution here it isn't just
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Speaker 3: one-sided okay he's just as He's.
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Speaker 4: Santa Sissy, is what we used to call Larry, because
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Speaker 4: he was always such a sissy for Santa Claus.
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Speaker 2: And I happen to like Santa Claus as a kid.
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Speaker 2: What's wrong with that?
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Speaker 4: I thought it very, very odd, Mr. Henry, and I've
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Speaker 4: always tried to steer him away from that.
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Speaker 5: All right, let me get some other phone calls here.
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Speaker 6: 1-800-449-8686.
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Speaker 5: This gentleman is seeking $ 10, 000 from his mother.
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Speaker 3: For Christmas presents because she wouldn't honor his list to
20:33
Speaker 3: Santa Claus. I think I'm saying that, but the thing
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Speaker 3: that really made you mad is she wiped her rear
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Speaker 3: end with the list.
20:38
Speaker 5: Anyway, here's Bernie on the Phil Henry Show. Hi.
20:41
Speaker 4: Bernie?
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Speaker 2: Yes, ma'am.
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Speaker 1: Hi.
20:43
Speaker 8: I wanted to ask him, how did your father earn
20:47
Speaker 8: his money? Did he earn it or did someone give
20:49
Speaker 8: it to him?
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Speaker 2: No, my father earned it. My father worked 40 years
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Speaker 2: with Santa Fe Railroad.
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Speaker 8: Okay, why don't you go out and earn $ 10, 000? You're
20:59
Speaker 8: 31 years old.
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Speaker 2: I gave my mother a list.
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Speaker 8: Your mother did her part.
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Speaker 4: She brought you into the world. That is exactly right.
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Speaker 8: The problem is you're part of this instant gratification society.
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Speaker 8: Someone has it, so you want it.
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Speaker 2: Why can't, when I was a boy, I could make
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Speaker 2: a list for Santa Claus.
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Speaker 6: That's it.
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Speaker 8: You're not a boy. You're a grown man. You have
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Speaker 8: children to think about.
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Speaker 5: Have you threatened to put your mother in an old folks' home?
21:24
Speaker 2: I mentioned that maybe she belongs in one, yes.
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Speaker 4: And I think that is such blackmail.
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Speaker 2: It's not blackmail.
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Speaker 6: It is blackmail.
21:33
Speaker 2: How is that blackmail? How is that blackmail? I gave
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Speaker 2: her a list for Santa Claus, and then in a
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Speaker 2: very classy way that my mother has always behaved, she
21:44
Speaker 2: takes it, looks at it, and pretends like she's wiping
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Speaker 2: her crotch with it.
21:49
Speaker 4: I was trying to make an impression on you that
21:51
Speaker 4: you are a grown man and you can take your
21:55
Speaker 4: Santa Claus list and you know what you can do
21:58
Speaker 4: with it.
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Speaker 2: Hey, Mother, how do you like strained peas?
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Speaker 4: What's that supposed to mean?
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Speaker 2: Because that's what they serve you at an old folks' home.
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Speaker 4: See?
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Speaker 8: See what he does?
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Speaker 2: See what I do? Have you ever wiped your crotch
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Speaker 2: with a kid's letter to Santa Claus? I don't think
22:12
Speaker 2: you have, ma'am.
22:13
Speaker 8: Let me tell you, the Bible says that you are
22:18
Speaker 8: supposed to take care of widows, not take from them.
22:22
Speaker 2: The what?
22:22
Speaker 6: The Bible.
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Speaker 2: See, that's something we never had in our home.
22:26
Speaker 8: Well, that explains why you've got so many problems in
22:28
Speaker 8: your life.
22:29
Speaker 2: And it's my fault?
22:31
Speaker 4: It is your fault. You're a grown man.
22:32
Speaker 8: You're responsible for your own behavior.
22:35
Speaker 2: I was responsible as a kid to get the Bible
22:36
Speaker 2: into our house. You know what?
22:37
Speaker 8: You moved in your mother's house.
22:38
Speaker 2: She's taking care of you, and you're doing her. When
22:40
Speaker 2: I was a kid, we didn't have the Bible in
22:41
Speaker 2: our house. When I was a kid, we didn't have
22:44
Speaker 2: the Bible in our house.
22:45
Speaker 8: You're not a child anymore.
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Speaker 2: Well, what about when I was a kid? Why didn't
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Speaker 2: my mother have the Bible there?
22:50
Speaker 8: You're not a child.
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Speaker 4: Well, we didn't teach Larry the Bible.
22:53
Speaker 8: It doesn't matter. He's a grown man. He's been exposed
22:56
Speaker 8: to it.
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Speaker 4: Well, I don't know about that. We never were believers
22:59
Speaker 4: in that hogwash. But we always felt that if we
23:03
Speaker 4: just loved our son, that's all he needed.
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Speaker 8: Well, apparently it wasn't, because now he wants you in
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Speaker 8: a nursing home and he wants to sue you, so.
23:10
Speaker 2: You were wrong.
23:11
Speaker 4: Well, the problem is we went with this Christian thing
23:16
Speaker 4: about the Christmas. And if we'd never introduced that God-awful...
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Speaker 4: nonsense into our home.
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Speaker 2: Listen to her. She thinks Christmas is god-awful nonsense. And
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Speaker 2: all I wanted was a list. I had a DVD player,
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Speaker 2: a high-definition television.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, but you're not celebrating Christmas for Christmas. It's I want,
23:37
Speaker 8: I want, I want Christmas. Listen to you. You're very autocratic.
23:41
Speaker 8: I want, I want. Your mother is older.
23:44
Speaker 4: You moved in.
23:45
Speaker 8: She's taking care of you. You want to sue her
23:47
Speaker 8: or put her in a nursing home?
23:48
Speaker 4: Well, you know what started this?
23:50
Speaker 1: What?
23:50
Speaker 4: Larry wasn't circumcised. And I made a joke one day.
23:56
Speaker 4: I called him Missile Dick.
23:58
Speaker 2: You see that? You see the kind of mouth my
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Speaker 2: mother has?
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Speaker 5: Okay, please. I don't want to talk about this, all right?
24:04
Speaker 4: That's all that I said to him. And he made
24:06
Speaker 4: a big deal out of it. You know, so you
24:10
Speaker 4: listen to this lady. She knows what she's doing.
24:12
Speaker 2: The lady doesn't like you either.
24:14
Speaker 4: You like me, don't you?
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Speaker 8: I don't want to.
24:17
Speaker 4: Get in the middle of this. Well, don't you like me?
24:19
Speaker 4: I'm 65 years old. My husband's been dead three years.
24:24
Speaker 4: I'm trying desperately to hang on. And I have List
24:28
Speaker 4: Boy here who wants a DVD player. I got the
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Speaker 4: Missile Boy.
24:33
Speaker 5: And, you know, it sounds to me like you're taunting him,
24:35
Speaker 5: and I don't think that that's right. I don't either.
24:38
Speaker 4: Well, you know, he needs it, don't you, Larry? Huh?
24:42
Speaker 2: Stop it, Mother.
24:43
Speaker 4: Come on. Come on.
24:44
Speaker 6: Ow.
24:45
Speaker 8: It sounds like they both need help.
24:46
Speaker 2: Quit it, Mom.
24:48
Speaker 5: Yeah, they got some kind of a weird relationship.
24:50
Speaker 4: They really do. Come on, Larry.
24:51
Speaker 3: Come on.
24:52
Speaker 4: Ow.
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Speaker 2: Quit it.
24:53
Speaker 5: What are you doing to him?
24:55
Speaker 4: I'm hitting him on the ass because he is such
24:58
Speaker 4: a baby. Here, Larry, come here.
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Speaker 2: Don't hit me there.
25:01
Speaker 4: Ow.
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Speaker 6: Ow.
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Speaker 4: He's a baby, you know. He's a real ass. Are
25:07
Speaker 4: you a mother?
25:08
Speaker 8: Yes, and I would never be like you.
25:10
Speaker 4: No, but do you love your children?
25:12
Speaker 8: I have a daughter, and she's wonderful.
25:14
Speaker 4: You should love your children.
25:15
Speaker 8: It doesn't sound like that you ever really loved him.
25:18
Speaker 4: I love him very much, but he never became the
25:21
Speaker 4: man that his father is.
25:22
Speaker 8: You know why? People become what you call them.
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Speaker 2: Hey, Mom, one word, bedsores, okay?
25:27
Speaker 4: You hear the threats?
25:29
Speaker 8: But he got it from you.
25:31
Speaker 4: Well, what did I do to deserve being put in
25:33
Speaker 4: an old folks' home?
25:34
Speaker 8: Well, you started it. You started calling him names and
25:37
Speaker 8: abusing him verbally. I'm sorry.
25:39
Speaker 4: Well, I made a little crack.
25:41
Speaker 8: He's a baby because you made him a baby.
25:43
Speaker 4: I made him a baby, but I'm calling him names.
25:46
Speaker 4: Are you a mother? Do you love your children?
25:48
Speaker 8: You know something? There's nothing wrong.
25:49
Speaker 4: I don't even want to talk to you anymore.
25:50
Speaker 8: I think that you've got two sick people on your show.
25:52
Speaker 4: There's nothing wrong.
25:53
Speaker 5: Well, what are you trying to say to her, ma'am?
25:55
Speaker 4: I'm just saying to the lady... that there's nothing wrong
26:00
Speaker 4: with disciplining a child properly and giving him, if you
26:04
Speaker 4: believe in the Christian faith, giving him the Christian faith.
26:08
Speaker 4: If you don't, that's fine. We always would take a
26:11
Speaker 4: ping pong paddle and put nail, just tacks in it.
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Speaker 4: Do you know what I mean by that?
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Speaker 8: You're not serious, are you?
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Speaker 5: What are you talking about?
26:22
Speaker 4: No, no, I'm talking about how you discipline a child.
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Speaker 3: Are you talking about putting tacks in a ping pong
26:26
Speaker 3: paddle and hitting the boy with it?
26:28
Speaker 2: Well.
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Speaker 4: She did, Phil.
26:30
Speaker 2: She did.
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Speaker 5: She hit you with a ping-pong paddle studded with tacks.
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Speaker 2: Yes, she did.
26:36
Speaker 4: Well, then she's reaping what she's been sowing.
26:38
Speaker 6: Wait a second.
26:38
Speaker 4: Wait a second. But Larry said that he enjoyed it,
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Speaker 4: didn't you? Didn't you, Larry?
26:44
Speaker 2: Sometimes.
26:46
Speaker 4: Do you see what I'm saying? Do you see what
26:48
Speaker 4: I'm dealing with?
26:50
Speaker 8: No, you're the one that has the problem.
26:52
Speaker 4: No, I don't have a problem. Yeah, you are.
26:54
Speaker 8: You're sick.
26:55
Speaker 4: And let me tell you something else. Don't ever raise
26:58
Speaker 4: an ass like I have. He's such an ass.
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Speaker 8: He got the DNA from you, lady.
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Speaker 4: I beg your pardon?
27:08
Speaker 8: That's right. He got it from you.
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Speaker 4: You're talking to me? Yes, I'm talking to you.
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Speaker 1: Yes, she is.
27:12
Speaker 5: If you abused your son like.
27:13
Speaker 2: That, then.
27:14
Speaker 4: Oh, Jesus Christ. You did. You people really give me
27:18
Speaker 4: a pain. It's like having to put it up there
27:22
Speaker 4: twice a month with you. What do you mean that I.
27:26
Speaker 3: Look, lady, I don't want to hear your vulgar mouth, okay?
27:28
Speaker 3: If you hit your son with a.
27:30
Speaker 2: Hey, hey, mother, mother, okay? Restraining straps, think of that.
27:34
Speaker 4: You hear him threatening me with an old folk song?
27:36
Speaker 4: Do you hear that? Do you think that's right?
27:39
Speaker 3: I don't think it's right hitting your son with a
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Speaker 3: ping-pong paddle with tacks in it.
27:44
Speaker 4: What a pussy.
27:46
Speaker 5: Is that me?
27:46
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's me. That's you.
27:49
Speaker 5: That's me?
27:50
Speaker 6: Right.
27:51
Speaker 8: But you've got to consider the sources coming from her.
27:54
Speaker 8: She's sick.
27:54
Speaker 2: Do you see what I'm talking about, Mr. Hendry, and
27:56
Speaker 2: the lady on the talk show line? This woman put
28:01
Speaker 2: me through this.
28:02
Speaker 8: Now, listen, you are old enough to get out of
28:05
Speaker 8: that house and move. Let her have her money. You
28:08
Speaker 8: make your own.
28:09
Speaker 2: Absolutely. But I'm trying to.
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Speaker 4: The lady that I'm speaking with, where are you calling from? Texas. Okay.
28:16
Speaker 4: What if I were to give you a couple of whacks?
28:19
Speaker 4: What do you think about that?
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Speaker 8: Lady, I'm not afraid of you. You're 65 years old,
28:24
Speaker 8: and you're three or four countries away, and you have
28:27
Speaker 8: no wisdom.
28:27
Speaker 4: That hurts.
28:31
Speaker 8: You have no wisdom.
28:33
Speaker 4: That hurts me very deeply.
28:34
Speaker 8: And you're reliving everything.
28:36
Speaker 2: The truth hurts.
28:37
Speaker 4: Shut up, Lily. Ow! Keep your mouth shut in my home.
28:41
Speaker 8: Where do you find these people?
28:42
Speaker 5: What is going on with this guy? What did you do?
28:44
Speaker 4: You need to respect your elders.
28:48
Speaker 5: What did you do to him?
28:49
Speaker 4: Don't worry about it. Don't even worry yourself about it.
28:53
Speaker 4: What are you saying, lady? You're abusive. Come at me.
28:58
Speaker 8: I think you have a demon in you.
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Speaker 4: Little Larry the list boy. Shut up, mother. Larry the
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Speaker 4: list boy.
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Speaker 5: I've got to put her on hold. She's giving me
29:07
Speaker 5: the creeps. It's like talking to Mrs. Bates.
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Speaker 8: There's something wrong with them.
29:10
Speaker 5: It's like talking to, who's that old lady in the movie?
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Speaker 4: Mrs.
29:13
Speaker 5: Bates, right?
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Speaker 8: It reminds me of that movie, Sybil.
29:18
Speaker 5: Get the number for, you got the number for these people?
29:22
Speaker 5: Call him up.
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Speaker 3: The mother sounds whacked out, and she's still abusing this guy,
29:26
Speaker 3: and he's 31. You know, I've heard about women who
29:29
Speaker 3: abuse men. It's probably not as common as men abusing women,
29:33
Speaker 3: but I've heard of it. Because some guys will just
29:35
Speaker 3: stand there and take it, especially if it's from a mother.
29:37
Speaker 8: But he seems to like it.
29:39
Speaker 5: That's what she said.
29:40
Speaker 2: Said, too.
29:41
Speaker 4: Yeah.
29:41
Speaker 3: All right, ma'am, I thank you very much for your
29:43
Speaker 3: call this evening. Phil Henry Show. Larry the List Boy.
29:47
Speaker 3: It's the Phil Henry Show here, and we'll be back.
29:51
Speaker 3: See if you can't reestablish contact with those people, and
29:54
Speaker 3: I'd like a little bit of sanity from them when
29:56
Speaker 3: we come back, Mike.
29:57
Speaker 4: 1-800-449-8686.
29:57
Speaker 2: 1-800-449-8686.
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Speaker 5: Phil Henry Show at 1-800-449-8686.
30:29
Speaker 3: I'm talking to Larry and Bridget Grover in West Los Angeles.
30:35
Speaker 3: Larry wants to take legal action to get some money
30:39
Speaker 3: from his mother. And Bridget Grover is his mother because
30:45
Speaker 3: she took a letter to Santa Claus that he had
30:48
Speaker 3: and wiped her rear end with it or something.
30:51
Speaker 4: I did not wipe my rear end with it, Mr.
30:54
Speaker 2: Henry.
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Speaker 3: Let me just finish the story here. I know you
30:56
Speaker 3: didn't literally. You made like you were wiping your rear
30:58
Speaker 3: end with it. And also the fact that you want
31:02
Speaker 3: to bring back some... I don't know what this is about, Mr.
31:04
Speaker 2: Grover.
31:04
Speaker 3: I do know that I have a question for both
31:06
Speaker 3: of you.
31:08
Speaker 5: Either one of you or both of you together been
31:10
Speaker 5: to counseling?
31:11
Speaker 4: No, no. We don't need.
31:13
Speaker 2: I've suggested it, Mr. Henry.
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Speaker 4: No, we don't need any counseling. Larry needs help from
31:18
Speaker 4: a doctor. He's a grown man who gave me a
31:21
Speaker 4: letter to Santa Claus. I wiped my ass with that.
31:26
Speaker 3: And for a mother to use language like that, and
31:28
Speaker 3: for a mother to raise her child in an environment
31:32
Speaker 3: that is bereft of any spiritual guidance.
31:34
Speaker 2: That's exactly right, Mr. Henry, and that's why I love Christmas.
31:40
Speaker 4: He's not getting any money from me. Do you know
31:42
Speaker 4: that his father died three years ago?
31:44
Speaker 5: I'm aware of that.
31:45
Speaker 4: Do you know how he died?
31:47
Speaker 2: My mother, Phil, died at Dodger Stadium.
31:49
Speaker 4: Let me tell the story, okay? Larry's father... stood up
31:54
Speaker 4: for the seventh inning stretch at Dodger Stadium and had
31:57
Speaker 4: a cardiac embolism. He died watching a team that he
32:03
Speaker 4: alternately loved and despised. He loved the Dodgers, and yet
32:08
Speaker 4: he despised them for all of the hell that they
32:11
Speaker 4: put him through. And when he died, I was happy.
32:15
Speaker 4: I was very.
32:16
Speaker 2: You see that? She was happy that my father died.
32:18
Speaker 5: Hold on. I want to hear this. Why were you happy?
32:20
Speaker 4: I was happy because he wouldn't put himself through the
32:25
Speaker 4: living hell of going to another Dodger game and looking
32:30
Speaker 4: at that garbage. And I would rather that he die
32:34
Speaker 4: with his heart and lungs exploding inside of his chest
32:38
Speaker 4: cavity and suffering from massive internal bleeding. than to have
32:42
Speaker 4: to witness one more inning of Dodger baseball and listen
32:47
Speaker 4: to Vin Scully one more half second. I was happy
32:51
Speaker 4: when he died. And Larry was upset. But I knew
32:55
Speaker 4: what his father had been through. And I told Larry,
32:58
Speaker 4: if you can be half the man, even dead, you're
33:01
Speaker 4: not half the man your father was. Right now.
33:05
Speaker 5: It sounds to me like you're humiliating him.
33:06
Speaker 2: That's exactly my point.
33:08
Speaker 4: And right now, with his father moldering in a grave,
33:12
Speaker 4: Larry still isn't half the man that his father was.
33:16
Speaker 3: Well, it sounds to me like you're being abusive, and
33:19
Speaker 3: it sounds to me like this is a guy who
33:20
Speaker 3: is trying to struggle from some terribly abusive and traumatic upbringing, okay?
33:26
Speaker 4: There's only half of his father left.
33:28
Speaker 2: We got it already, Mom, okay?
33:30
Speaker 4: Well, I'm trying to make the point.
33:32
Speaker 3: Hold on, hold on, hold on. I think both of
33:35
Speaker 3: you need some counseling. Here is Krause on the Phil
33:37
Speaker 3: Henry Show.
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Speaker 1: Hello.
33:38
Speaker 6: Hey.
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Speaker 2: Yes.
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Speaker 9: I think that boy needs to grow up a lot.
33:44
Speaker 9: He needs to take his thumb out of his mouth
33:46
Speaker 9: and quit depending on his mom to change his dirty diapers.
33:49
Speaker 9: And the mom, I think she needs to be locked away.
33:54
Speaker 9: and throw away the key.
33:55
Speaker 4: Oh, so you have a problem. You don't like either
33:57
Speaker 4: one of us. Right. I'm suspicious of people that you
34:02
Speaker 4: can't make your mind up.
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Speaker 2: I'm being a man. I went to her with the
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Speaker 2: Santa Claus letter.
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Speaker 9: Wrong man, don't write letters to Santa Claus.
34:11
Speaker 2: And why is that?
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Speaker 9: Because Santa Claus is make-believe.
34:15
Speaker 2: I know that. I'm doing it to revisit a tradition
34:18
Speaker 2: from my childhood. Get it?
34:20
Speaker 4: He doesn't sound like an asshole.
34:23
Speaker 9: Doesn't he sound like an ass?
34:24
Speaker 4: Doesn't he sound like the perfect picture of an ass?
34:28
Speaker 9: Like mother, like son.
34:30
Speaker 4: And what is that supposed to mean? It means you're
34:32
Speaker 4: an ass too. Let me ask you a question. You know,
34:34
Speaker 4: I'm 65. Do you think you'd have the guts to
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Speaker 4: stand nose to nose with me and tell me that? Yes,
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Speaker 4: I would. Really?
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: And what if I whipsawed your ass? What would you
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Speaker 4: think of that?
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Speaker 2: Listen to her threatening, okay? Listen to her threatening.
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Speaker 5: We don't have to get physical, all right?
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Speaker 4: No, I'm not getting physical. I'm making a promise I
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Speaker 4: can keep.
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Speaker 9: Oh, but believe me, I am too.
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Speaker 5: Dump, dump, dump, dump.
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Speaker 4: Get a load of the vulgar mouth on her.
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Speaker 3: Well, I think you antagonized that woman physically. to the
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Speaker 3: point where she would use vulgarity. Let's everybody just calm down.
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Speaker 3: I don't want to hear that language again.
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Speaker 4: 1-800-449-8686.
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Speaker 5: What do you mean you could hear the fat in
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Speaker 5: that woman's throat?
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Speaker 4: She sounds like a young woman with her throat jammed
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Speaker 4: with fat, and that's really sad.
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Speaker 3: All right, here is Marietta on The Phil Henry Show.
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Speaker 5: Hello.
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Speaker 6: Hi.
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Speaker 5: Yes, ma'am.
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Speaker 6: I just want to say, you know, I'm a 35-year-old
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Speaker 6: single mom. I have a 17-year-old son and then two
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Speaker 6: smaller daughters. First of all, with the boy, I'm not
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Speaker 6: much older than you, and I wouldn't tolerate this kind
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Speaker 6: of behavior from my 17-year-old.
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Speaker 2: What are you talking about, me?
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Speaker 6: Yeah, you.
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Speaker 2: What have I done other than give her a letter
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Speaker 2: to Santa Claus?
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Speaker 6: Oh, please.
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Speaker 4: What have I done other than give her a.
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Speaker 2: Letter to Santa Claus that she wiped her ass with?
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Speaker 6: Well, you know what? You need to just get over it.
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Speaker 2: Have you ever done that with a letter to Santa Claus?
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Speaker 6: No, I wouldn't.
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Speaker 5: My children. Exactly.
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Speaker 6: But you know what? If my son was 31 years
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Speaker 6: old and came to me, I don't know. I might
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Speaker 6: do that. Say, listen, you need to get a life.
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Speaker 6: Don't be looking at me to buy you a DVD player.
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Speaker 4: Get a job.
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Speaker 6: Get a job and do it yourself and take care
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Speaker 6: of yourself. You should be taking care of your mother.
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Speaker 4: And he wrote it in crayon, too. He was joking.
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Speaker 6: Okay, but the mother, you have antagonized this child because
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Speaker 6: he's still a child.
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Speaker 8: He doesn't even know how to be a man because.
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Speaker 6: You have not even allowed him to be a man.
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Speaker 4: What did I do that was so wrong to Larry?
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Speaker 6: The way you're talking to him now. You refuse to
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Speaker 6: allow him to grow up.
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Speaker 4: I'm trying to get him to be a man.
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Speaker 6: No, you're not. You're forcing him to still be a child.
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Speaker 4: Well, if you can point out what I'm doing wrong,
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Speaker 4: his father died on Larry's 29th birthday. His father was
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Speaker 4: at Dodger Stadium. He stood for the seventh inning stretch.
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Speaker 4: I heard.
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Speaker 6: And my heart goes out to you for that. My
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Speaker 6: heart goes out to you for that. I have a
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Speaker 6: lot of compassion for you for that.
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Speaker 2: My father died where he would want to die, at
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Speaker 2: Dodger Stadium.
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Speaker 6: But it's no excuse.
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Speaker 4: Oh, he hated those bastards.
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Speaker 6: It is no excuse for the way that you talk
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Speaker 6: to your child. But there's no excuse for the way
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Speaker 6: that a grown man should treat his mother.
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Speaker 2: Well, ma'am, a grown man. I mean, I said, can
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Speaker 2: I have this stuff for Christmas? And she won't give it.
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Speaker 5: All right, if you're going to cry again.
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Speaker 4: I'm sorry. You know what? You hear this F.
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Speaker 6: You are 31 years old.
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Speaker 4: Exactly.
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Speaker 8: That's my point.
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Speaker 6: No, no, lady, listen. You know, I mean, I have
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Speaker 6: been raising my kids for 14 years. I've been raising
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Speaker 6: them by myself.
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Speaker 4: All right? Well, how good of a job are you doing?
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Speaker 6: I admit I make a lot of mistakes.
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Speaker 4: Okay, that's what I'm talking about.
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Speaker 6: You know, I'm not at all calling you imperfect.
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Speaker 4: But I'll tell you what.
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Speaker 6: I wasn't about to put you down.
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Speaker 4: I'm talking to this young man. I'm not putting you down.
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Speaker 4: I'm saying you can.
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Speaker 6: I'm talking to this young man. My parents made a
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Speaker 6: lot of mistakes with me, too. But you know what?
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Speaker 6: The time came where I said, I'm going to make
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Speaker 6: a difference in my life. Mister, you need to decide.
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Speaker 4: Would you pardon me for a minute?
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Speaker 6: You are utterly... What are you doing?
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Speaker 1: Kill it.
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Speaker 5: Kill it. Kill it.
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Speaker 2: Sorry.
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Speaker 4: I couldn't hold it. I'm sorry. I don't know what
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Speaker 4: to tell you.
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Speaker 4: Good way to get out of the hour, though.
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