Latest / Financial Survival Network / Weak Economy Doesn’t Mean Weak Real Estate Market --Andrew Ragusa #5948
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- 0:00I would anticipate you so serious changes to start taking place into the market,
- 0:04perhaps prices lowering, but definitely this way before closures that's being reported now.
- 0:10This is not something that I'm speculating. It's being reported now that or closers
- 0:14are increasing for all of these people with new mortgages with high debt to income
- 0:18ratios. That is going to water down this hot market and really start to
- 0:23reduce prices once we see a lot of listings. Bob up, you are
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- 0:53you are listening to and watching the Financial Survival Network. I'm your host,
- 0:58Kerry Lutz. Well, here we are. It's nearly Thanksgiving. The economy,
- 1:03certainly you can't deny, is weak. But real estate is another story.
- 1:07And with us now is an expert real estate expert Andrew Ragusa from my
- 1:12home state or our home state of New York. Andrew, So we are
- 1:17talking just because the economy is tanking doesn't mean that real estate is tanking with
- 1:22it, does it? No? You know, actually it's kind of the
- 1:25opposite when you think about it. As the value of the dollar goes down,
- 1:27real estate has to get more expensive. So people are still selling their
- 1:32houses pretty high. Rentals are still really high. People are paying a lot,
- 1:34so even a cash flow on some of these rental properties is producing more
- 1:38income than it normally would be at the moment. Interesting. And then what
- 1:44of the supply. You know, in Florida it's very tight. Is a
- 1:48supply still tight? In New York it's still very tight, very If you
- 1:53look at a map, and I'm not sorry, Matt, a chart you
- 1:55look at historically, our supply is down. It's the most down it's ever
- 1:57been. But within the last i want to say, in thirty days or
- 2:01so, maybe about six weeks even has started to increase. So we're seeing
- 2:06a small raise and that's kind of odd because the holiday season's right about to
- 2:10approach. But I think people are starting to think to themselves, oh boy,
- 2:15I'm maybe at the tip of this market where there's definitely going to be
- 2:16a turning point sometime soon and people are starting to list despite into the holiday
- 2:22season. Uh huh, So they're listing in spite of the down period of
- 2:29the year, which is interesting because in the Northeast, the seasons always goes
- 2:32from you know, late February early March through to the summer, so maybe
- 2:38they're getting a little jump on it. Here in Florida, it's a little
- 2:42different because the season goes more from the vacation season, which is right about
- 2:47now through April maybe to Mother's Day, so you do have seasonal variations here.
- 2:54You know, I've read a lot about all of these cheapy mortgages that
- 2:59people just don't want to let their houses go because, you know, even
- 3:02if you're going to downsize, unless you're going to buy for cash, you
- 3:07take a mortgage out for half the amount that the one you have now is,
- 3:10you're paying the same amount for half the house, right, Yeah,
- 3:14you know, it's an interesting statistic. I actually just read recently. It
- 3:16was reported by the nar National Association Real News that as of last month,
- 3:23thirty three percent of all real estate transactions that took place were cash transactions,
- 3:29and historically that number would be about ten percent. So it's been a humongous
- 3:34increase in the number of cash transactions, and just speaking from experience of speaking
- 3:38with customers on a regular basis, that is the number one concern of people
- 3:40who own homes with mortgages right now is say, hey, my monthly payment
- 3:45is really nice. I got a three percent rate. I got a two
- 3:47point seventy five you seven rate? Hey, even if your rate's still in
- 3:51the fours, you know you're looking at monthly payments when your rate is now
- 3:54going to be seven and eight percent, Your monthly payments maybe double what you're
- 3:59paying in some crazy so I don't know how people are going to come up
- 4:01with that money. Sometimes and you know, like, look, could you
- 4:05might be getting half the house, but you're probably not going to be paying
- 4:09half the taxes, half the HOA fees if you have an HOA. Right,
- 4:14so you wind up you get less than half the house and you pay
- 4:17like two thirds as much, right, right, You knows that, Just
- 4:23so you get an understanding right now, with an interest rate about seven,
- 4:26let's say seven and a quarter seven and a third, you know, a
- 4:29house that's about five fifty six hundred thousand, which on Long Island and Queens
- 4:33and New York. That is not a hard number to hit at. Every
- 4:38house is expensive. So a house is about five six hundred thousand with property
- 4:42taxes that are about twelve thousand dollars a year, you're looking at a monthly
- 4:46payment about forty five to forty eight hundred with twenty percent down, assuming you're
- 4:50not paying private mortgage assurance. So we're almost fine brand a month to just
- 4:56pay your mortgage, which is tremendous increase because only in twenty eighteen and nineteen
- 5:00the average warriage game was looking like twenty five twenty two hundred. So we
- 5:04are much higher than what we would normally be. And just another side note,
- 5:10even the property taxes have gone up significantly. For example, New York
- 5:14City has almost three times. It's almost tripled where it was prior to COVID.
- 5:19I see people in New York City with property taxes now twell with thirteen
- 5:23fourteen thousand for New York City. I mean you could have been on island,
- 5:27and you know, New York City taxes used to be four thousand and
- 5:30five six thousand on average. People are making way more all around. That's
- 5:33funny because I lived in Westchester County, New York where we had the privilege
- 5:39of paying the highest property taxes in the country. Yeah, yes, you
- 5:43do gradually. So when people are looking to sell, often it's because they're
- 5:49moving out of the area to lower, lower cost states like Florida, though
- 5:55Florida is not that lower cost anymore, but the Carolina is Georgia. Maybe
- 6:00they're going to Alabama for whatever reason. Maybe they're going to Texas, right,
- 6:06yeah, yeah, most of the people are relocating south of here.
- 6:11And I will tell you that the majority of the people who I sell their
- 6:14properties, the two situations are either they're moving in with family and sharing a
- 6:18space somewhere and they're going to contribute to that cost, or they are relocating
- 6:23to another state. So it actually, if you take their grand picture and
- 6:29just look at the way real estate used to move, people would move for
- 6:31more than just those two reasons. They would be, you know, we
- 6:33want to save money, we would downsize, you know, empty nesters,
- 6:36kids went away to college, you know, or maybe we want a bigger
- 6:41place just because we're you know, family is growing. Those are not the
- 6:44top reasons anymore, and now it seems like the top reasons are cost reduction,
- 6:48right, moving in with another person to save money or moving out of
- 6:53state to save money. So those are the two biggest driving factors for motivation
- 6:57of sellers ringing as of now. But we do have a housing shortage,
- 7:00there's no question about that, right, Yeah, without a doubt. I
- 7:02mean it's still even though I said inventory is increasing, it's still way lower
- 7:06than where it would be normally. So looking ahead with this trend, you're
- 7:11seeing inventory creeping up, but it hasn't by any means exploded. What what
- 7:16do you think it's going to look like at the end of the year next
- 7:20year? Well, look, I mean again all speculation here, but in
- 7:25my opinion, I think everything that goes up has to come down, and
- 7:29at some point I would not be surprised to see the market actually tank,
- 7:32especially if they do another interest rate increase. It's absolutely going to hurt because
- 7:39as soon as those announcements are made, like when Fed's announced that, oh,
- 7:42the mortgage rates are going up or whatever rates are going up, because
- 7:45they don't exactly say mortgage rate, they say the raids are going up,
- 7:47right, raid, Yeah, but that's what we think of first thing,
- 7:50right, right, Yeah, But that's not the case, and a lot
- 7:53of people don't know that, but automatically the lenders start raising and now when
- 7:59they look at these and when we hit that eight percent mark, real estate
- 8:03actually came to a standstill here on Long Island for a little bit. And
- 8:05it was a good, i want to say, eight week period where everyone
- 8:09that I was working with was like, ha, you know what, maybe
- 8:11we just wait, Maybe just wait till spring. See what happens. Everyone
- 8:15starts getting their doubts as soon as they hear that message. So I know,
- 8:18if there's a nine percent, right, if we go up again,
- 8:20then at some point people are going to say, hey, I can't pay
- 8:24six thousand dollars a month to live in this house. That's like, you
- 8:28know, people are already stretched. In fact, there was another statistic that
- 8:31came out recently, and it's showing that the majority of foreclosures that are coming
- 8:37out now that are being filed are from people who bought houses from twenty twenty
- 8:43until now, and their interest rates are on the higher side because they're actually
- 8:46borrowing at higher debt to income ratios than traditionally what people would normally borrow at
- 8:52since the interest rate is so high. So my prediction for next year is
- 8:56basically looking at it's not looking good as far as the real estate market is
- 8:58concerned. At what goes up has to go down. If there's another rate
- 9:01increase, I would anticipate, you know, so serious changes to start taking
- 9:05place into the market. Perhaps prices lowering, but definitely this way of foreclosures
- 9:11that's being reported now, this is not something that I'm speculating. It's being
- 9:15reported now that foreclosures are increasing for all of these people with new mortgages with
- 9:20high debt to income ratios. That is going to water down this hot market
- 9:24and really start to reduce prices once we see a lot of listings pop up.
- 9:28All right, well that's inspiring. But look, even though the foreclosure
- 9:33rate has bumped up a bit recently, it's still well below historic norms,
- 9:39especially this far along in the cycle. Right, Yes, yes it is,
- 9:43and I definitely don't want to cause spear and panic here, but it
- 9:46was just interesting to note that the majority of the foreclosures that are taking place
- 9:50were all the newer loans. So the majority were the newer loans where they
- 9:54had rates that are like six, seven and eight percent. So if that
- 9:58continues, that's going to some effects for us for sure. All right,
- 10:01Well, it's going to be interesting to see. Hey, Andrew, we
- 10:05want to get in touch with you, connect with you on the web.
- 10:07How do we find you? Yeah, I mean you could just just find
- 10:11me on Instagram, just just my name Andrew Ragussa. Find me on Facebook
- 10:13Andrew Ragusa as well to see my big shiny smile on all my profiles.
- 10:18And you can also just google my name and you'll find my business contact information
- 10:22there as well as website just Andrew Regussa of licensed real estate program Google all
- 10:28right links in the show notes this interview on Financial Survival Network dot com.
- 10:31You got a question for Andrew myself? Shoot me at email kyl at Kerry
- 10:35Lutz dot com. Hey, while you're at the site, you'll find the
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- 10:46weeks. We'll try to keep up with it. Andrew, always a pleasure,
- 10:50Thanks for stopping by, and man, I love being here. Thank
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