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Best of Chuck & Buck 7-13 · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 1: three point three kJ R f M. Hope you all
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Speaker 1: had a great weekend and joined some nice sunshine, some
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Speaker 1: uh near perfect weather this weekend, all sorts of sporting
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Speaker 1: activities to take in, and here we sit on a Monday,
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Speaker 1: ready to recap it all for you, put it in
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Speaker 1: its proper perspective. Four hours to talk sports here today, Ashley, Ryan,
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Speaker 1: Chuck Powell with you until ten o'clock this morning. Hope
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Speaker 1: you had a wonderful weekend out there. Did your weekend
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Speaker 1: turn out well?
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Speaker 6: Ashley My weekend was good.
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Speaker 7: Ferry ran over to Widby, OH, hung out with family at.
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Speaker 6: A winery on Saturday nights.
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Speaker 7: Went to some softball tryout and it was actually really fun.
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Speaker 7: It was sunny and it was a good way to
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Speaker 7: spend a Sunday morning. Okay, good, And then hung out
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Speaker 7: on a friend's back deck all afternoon.
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Speaker 1: What hell? I know what that means.
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Speaker 7: It means we were supposed to be unpacking her house
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Speaker 7: because she just moved in, and instead we dropped wine.
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Speaker 1: Oh I see, Oh I took it to something else.
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Speaker 1: Oh what'd you take euromism? Hung out to friend's back den.
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Speaker 7: We were supposed to go over and unpacked stuff and
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Speaker 7: I got there, They're like, we're taking a break.
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Speaker 6: We put together a credenza. Oh okay.
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Speaker 7: And then they said so we're going to have a
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Speaker 7: glass of wine and then we're going to go back
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Speaker 7: to work.
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Speaker 6: And I looked at them. I was like, you're not
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Speaker 6: going back to work, and I was right, yeah.
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Speaker 1: They didn't.
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Speaker 7: Instead they poured tequila shots for people on the golf course.
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Speaker 7: You know what, their best life.
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Speaker 1: It just goes with building a credenza. I had a
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Speaker 1: nickel for every time that I started building a credenza
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Speaker 1: and ended up drunk on tequila.
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Speaker 7: I know, right, Yeah it is hand in hand, Yeah,
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Speaker 7: one and the same bags, one and the same I
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Speaker 7: was very proud of myself.
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Speaker 6: I didn't have any tequila, is that right?
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Speaker 7: I managed to avoid it every time, and there was
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Speaker 7: probably fifteen.
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Speaker 6: Rounds of shots that were handed out that day.
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Speaker 1: I have like a I have not a great relationship
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Speaker 1: with tequila. And it's really it's just like one time.
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Speaker 7: I mean, I don't know that a lot of people
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Speaker 7: have a great relationship with.
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Speaker 1: People do though, because I think the mistake that we
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Speaker 1: make is we put it with like Margarita's and then
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Speaker 1: we drink like cheap stuff like apparently like the really
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Speaker 1: good tequila that you just drink.
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Speaker 6: Oh, if you sip it, yeah.
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Speaker 1: It is phenomenal. But I've never done that because I
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Speaker 1: had one bad experience with it years ago, and and
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Speaker 1: so for it's like for me, it's like, well, I
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Speaker 1: like that one. I've never had a bad experience with that,
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Speaker 1: And why would I do that if this one's really
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Speaker 1: good for me? Right now?
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Speaker 6: I understand you, I should say I should get over it.
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Speaker 7: I think not many people have a good experience with
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Speaker 7: tequila shots.
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Speaker 6: That's what I should have said, because yes, there is tequila.
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Speaker 6: That's good.
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Speaker 1: Sip in tequila, oh yeah, but oh yeah, especially a
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Speaker 1: top a brand new, poorly constructed, let's face it, because
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Speaker 1: everyone was drunk.
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Speaker 7: Credenza, that's right. That's where we all sat on top
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Speaker 7: of the credenza.
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Speaker 1: The broken cadenza, that's right. That could not hold our
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Speaker 1: weight because we forgot to put a piece to it.
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Speaker 6: We tried though.
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Speaker 1: All right, well, good morning to you. I just want
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Speaker 1: to say this because there are time that I start
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Speaker 1: a show angry about my drive in just I'm just
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Speaker 1: gonna fit just I sometimes driving just makes me angry,
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Speaker 1: and it's because of all of you people, truely, because
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Speaker 1: I do it perfectly. Okay, so sometimes I do. I
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Speaker 1: had a golden ride this morning, golden ride. It struck
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Speaker 1: me as I got on Mercer, like I have not
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Speaker 1: been angry with one motorist today, which is a new record. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: not one. And then it's like the traffic gods or
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Speaker 1: maybe God himself, was like, hey, for not complaining, for
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Speaker 1: not shouting, for not calling anybody a name, your entire
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Speaker 1: drive from Woodinville, I'm gonna give you every green light.
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Speaker 6: That sounds like a magic Monday.
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Speaker 1: Perfect ride right down normally horrible, horrible stop every five
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Speaker 1: feet street and made it here. So a golden ride.
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Speaker 1: I mean we're off to a great start. Yeah we are.
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Speaker 1: So let's take that great feeling, that great mood that
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Speaker 1: we're all in, and let's fire a manager.
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Speaker 7: Oh, I thought you were gonna praise everyone.
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Speaker 1: No, but you know what, Honestly, you know, I was
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Speaker 1: worked up on Saturday about Dan.
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I sent out a text to everyone just to let
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Speaker 1: you know what was coming and in case something did
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Speaker 1: happen that I'm on top of it. I'm ahead of this, yep.
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Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden you win, and then
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Speaker 1: all of a sudden you start a brand new week,
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Speaker 1: and then you have a golden ride in and then
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Speaker 1: you find out about a friend's trip to a deck
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Speaker 1: to build a credenza on tequila, and it softens your heart. Yes,
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Speaker 1: it softens your mood, but not enough, not enough. I
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Speaker 1: don't take this lightly. I take no joy in it.
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Speaker 1: I try not to over act. I think that is
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Speaker 1: my responsibility. I think that a lot of people that
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Speaker 1: sit in this seat and have this microphone and have
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Speaker 1: this YouTube channel in these platforms. They can't wait to
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Speaker 1: lop off heads. They just can't wait to do it.
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Speaker 1: Just never been my style. If it was, it's because
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Speaker 1: I was an over exuberant young broadcaster who thought I
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Speaker 1: had to have hot takes. I'm certainly twenty years removed
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Speaker 1: from that, if not more in my career, and so
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Speaker 1: I do really try to use this as last resort.
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Speaker 1: But I'm I think it's I think Dan Wilson's run
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Speaker 1: his course. I don't think he's the right guy for
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Speaker 1: the job. And we're going to get into some reasons why.
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Speaker 1: I will say, though, before I get into the reasons,
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Speaker 1: that I think that this team can still accomplish all
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Speaker 1: the goals that we had set for it, that they
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Speaker 1: had set for themselves with Dan Wilson as manager. I
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Speaker 1: mean the Dallas Cowboys one with Barry Switzer as a
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Speaker 1: head coach, you know, because they were well constructed and
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Speaker 1: the clubhouse was strong enough. And I don't think Dan
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Speaker 1: is I think he could still get this job done.
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Speaker 1: Look how close we came a year ago. But that said,
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Speaker 1: I also gave him a C minus a year ago.
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Speaker 1: As Ashley remembers, I'll remind the audience that was my
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Speaker 1: letter grade for him, and that was at the end
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Speaker 1: of the year, right I gave him a C minus,
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Speaker 1: and I went into the playoffs saying, it's the thing
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Speaker 1: I'm worried the most about with this team is Dan
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Speaker 1: Wilson and whether or not he's going to press the
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Speaker 1: right buttons. And I don't think that he did in
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Speaker 1: the postseason. I even said at the end of last year, Hey,
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Speaker 1: I don't think it's out of the question. If you
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Speaker 1: believe you've got a world championship team but you have
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Speaker 1: an unproven manager in that arena, that would it be
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Speaker 1: out of the question to consider an upgrade at the
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Speaker 1: managerial position. They did not. I don't think that they
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Speaker 1: had even crossed their minds, and I don't know if
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Speaker 1: it's crossing their minds now, but I will just say
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Speaker 1: as that game ended Saturday, and I watched those Mariner
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Speaker 1: players stay in the dugout and stare at the field
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Speaker 1: like they just lost a championship. You only see teams
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Speaker 1: do that after they've lost a championship and they want
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Speaker 1: to soak in the pain of watching another team celebrate.
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Speaker 1: The Rays just won a regular season game, two games
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Speaker 1: shy of the All Star break. That was not like
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Speaker 1: some significant win or loss on paper, but it obviously
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Speaker 1: meant more to the players Saturday than just a normal
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Speaker 1: Saturday afternoon in early July. They got touched by something,
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Speaker 1: They felt something Saturday. They realized, Man, we are bad
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Speaker 1: right now. We are a bad baseball team, and there
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Speaker 1: is no reason why we should be. We have the
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Speaker 1: pieces we have, the pitching we have. We don't have
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Speaker 1: a great lineup. We've never had a great lineup in
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Speaker 1: the Depoto era, but it should be at least a
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Speaker 1: good one. We shouldn't be making this many errors defensively.
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Speaker 1: We shouldn't be struggling this much to get twenty seven outs.
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Speaker 1: We should be doing a better job. I don't know
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Speaker 1: why we never can hit with runners in scoring position.
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Speaker 1: Why do we have these episodes of somebody deciding not
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Speaker 1: to hustle in the middle of a baseball game. Why
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Speaker 1: are we having base running blunders? Why as our superstar
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Speaker 1: hitting one seventy at the All Star Break, I mean
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Speaker 1: you could see it on their faces. I mean they
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Speaker 1: just look like we have failed. That was the look
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Speaker 1: on their faces. And we have got to fix this thing.
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Speaker 1: We cannot kick a season, not the way that we're structured,
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Speaker 1: not the way that we're built, not with how close
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Speaker 1: we came a year ago to making it to the
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Speaker 1: World Series. And so something happened, something deep happened Saturday.
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Speaker 1: And I don't know if finally Dan Wilson overturned tables
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Speaker 1: and let the locker room on fire, I doubt it.
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Speaker 1: I don't know if there was a closed door meetings.
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Speaker 1: Those things are overdone. Don't know if they always fixed things.
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Speaker 1: I'm not saying that there was a completely different fire
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Speaker 1: on Saturday. A Sunday, I'm not sure if there was,
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Speaker 1: but they certainly came out and played better even with
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Speaker 1: Emerson Hancock leaving the game. The bullpen stepped up, got
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Speaker 1: its job done offensively. You scored some runs. I don't
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Speaker 1: know what would have happened had we only scored one
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Speaker 1: run in that basis loaded situation. And JP Crawford got
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Speaker 1: his little flute flare, which is good. That's a good
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Speaker 1: sign for JP down the way field line, and that
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Speaker 1: turned it from a one run inning to a three
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Speaker 1: run inning and tend to put us on the right
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Speaker 1: track at that point. Maybe it's a different game if
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Speaker 1: that doesn't fall. But obviously a pretty easy victory by
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Speaker 1: comparison on Sunday, and so you at least get to
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Speaker 1: taste victory heading into the All Star break. But Ashley,
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Speaker 1: I'm not going to forget about Saturday, No, and that
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Speaker 1: feeling on Saturday. And my feeling was as the night
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Speaker 1: went on and I sat with that loss and a
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Speaker 1: five game losing streak on the road and watching a
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Speaker 1: team that I picked to go to the World Series
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Speaker 1: just play like garbage, not just for the last five days,
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Speaker 1: but for the entirety of the first half of the
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Speaker 1: baseball season. We don't have the right manager. That's what
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Speaker 1: struck me Saturday. That's where I sit on Monday morning.
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Speaker 1: I don't think he's the right guy for the job.
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Speaker 1: And I know he's nice, and I know he's a
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Speaker 1: playing legend in this town, and yet I mean, where
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Speaker 1: is the strength in his game as a manager? Because
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Speaker 1: I was under the impression it was his ability to
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Speaker 1: relate to all the players that they want to fight
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Speaker 1: for him because he's always got their back. And yet
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Speaker 1: we've had way too many examples of sloppy, lazy, emotionless
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Speaker 1: baseball that has been played here in the first half.
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Speaker 1: So he's not even touching that. He's not even reaching
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Speaker 1: his individual players, much less the collective on how the
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Speaker 1: game needs to be played, how winning baseball is played,
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Speaker 1: much less championship baseball. Dan may not know how championship
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Speaker 1: baseball's played. He's never played it.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, and I would say, yeah, being nice and being
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Speaker 7: a legend is not That wouldn't be the top two
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Speaker 7: things to have on my list for looking for a manager.
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Speaker 7: I was thinking this morning before I came in, I'm
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Speaker 7: gonna play the Mariners win song.
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Speaker 6: But it doesn't feel like a win. You lost five
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Speaker 6: in a.
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Speaker 7: Row before you you had a good game yesterday.
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Speaker 6: You won yesterday like by a lot.
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Speaker 7: It looked your offense looked good, and the pitching staff
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Speaker 7: stepped up when they really needed to. But it just
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Speaker 7: feels like celebrating below mediocrity. To have won one out
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Speaker 7: of the six games in Florida.
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Speaker 1: Well, and I think that's what brought me to this
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Speaker 1: lowly state. I don't like doing it. I think I've
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Speaker 1: done it twice. I think I did it with Jacks Forensic.
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Speaker 1: I think I did it with Lorenzo Romar. Since I
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Speaker 1: came to town eleven years ago. So I don't do
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Speaker 1: this lightly. But I just did arrive Saturday at the
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Speaker 1: conclusion we need a new manager and nothing about Sunday
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Speaker 1: has changed that. And then I thought to myself, because
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Speaker 1: I did send out the text on Saturday to Ashley
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Speaker 1: and others at the station, just in case they do
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Speaker 1: pop him on Sunday. But you know, even service, they
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Speaker 1: waited until he was coming back, not until he got back,
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Speaker 1: but yeah, he was. The road trip was over before
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Speaker 1: they on his way back, yeah, before they made that decision.
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Speaker 1: So I wasn't surprised at didn't happen on Sunday, it
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Speaker 1: happens this morning, or it doesn't happen Okay, there's no
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Speaker 1: way they're gonna do it on Tuesday evening or Wednesday
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Speaker 1: afternoon or anything like that. I don't know. Maybe maybe
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Speaker 1: they would wait to not show up the All Star
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Speaker 1: Game and you would have Wednesday and Thursday off still
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Speaker 1: to kind of wrap your heads around it, light a
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Speaker 1: fire under this team, and start anew with your new manager.
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Speaker 1: On Friday. I'm gonna doubt that it happens at all.
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Speaker 1: I'm not surprised that it hasn't happened yet, even if
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Speaker 1: Jerry Justin and others have arrived at the same conclusion
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Speaker 1: that I did on Saturday. But managers today just don't
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Speaker 1: affect the game the way that they used to. From
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Speaker 1: an x's and O standpoint, you have analytics which drive
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Speaker 1: a lot of decisions for a lot of organize. All organizations,
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Speaker 1: All managers in baseball pray to the analytic gods to
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Speaker 1: some degree. Some are a little more loyal than others.
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Speaker 1: Dave Roberts is loyal to a fault. Just in case
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Speaker 1: you're wondering, that's the Dodgers manager who's on top of
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Speaker 1: the managerial world right now. But he's loyal to analytics
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Speaker 1: to a fault, I believe. So a lot of those
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Speaker 1: decisions are made for you. Nobody hitting run, nobody bunts anymore.
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Speaker 1: Nobody I mean stolen bases. I mean, you don't even
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Speaker 1: give a sign for stolen bases. Everybody's got a green light.
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Speaker 1: You think Josh Naylor's ever gotten a steal second sign
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Speaker 1: from anyone, and yet he has eighteen stolen bases at
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Speaker 1: the All Star Break for goodness sake, And it's because
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Speaker 1: everybody seems to have the green light. Maybe on occasion
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Speaker 1: you'll be told not to steal, but for the most part,
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Speaker 1: that's not even managerially controlled. The things that managers control
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Speaker 1: are three things basically. Number one, pitching changes, which I
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Speaker 1: think he's terrible at, as you know by now if
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Speaker 1: you've listened to this show. Pinch hitter decisions, which I
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Speaker 1: think he's been bad at, and I know he's been
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Speaker 1: bad at it because he's corrected, right, He's changed the
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Speaker 1: way he did it. Somebody got to him and said
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Speaker 1: he can't do it that way, which is what we
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Speaker 1: were saying on this show the entire season. You can't
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Speaker 1: do it that and he started to change the way
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Speaker 1: he does. So that's an admission of buh Boah, I
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Speaker 1: was doing that wrong, or at least somebody was telling
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Speaker 1: you you're doing it wrong, don't do it again. He
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Speaker 1: might disagree with that person, but he's changed, so I
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Speaker 1: think he's been bad at that. And then the one
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Speaker 1: saving grace was I know that the players like him,
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Speaker 1: but I think the players like him because he always
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Speaker 1: has their back. That's why he has boring ass press
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Speaker 1: conferences all the time because he won't call anybody out.
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Speaker 1: And players do like that, they do appreciate it, but
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Speaker 1: sometimes that's not that effective of a tool. Sometimes I
16:50
Speaker 1: think you do have to call somebody out and if
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Speaker 1: you're not doing it publicly, I hope you're doing it privately.
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Speaker 1: But your team doesn't play that way. Your team plays
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Speaker 1: like they're disinterested at times. Your team plays certainly lackluster.
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Speaker 1: And I know that they don't. I know that they
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Speaker 1: want to win. I know they have desire, and I
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Speaker 1: know there's effort, and I know that sometimes when you're
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Speaker 1: losing and nothing's coming together, it's hard to look like
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Speaker 1: you are really hustling your ass off. But then there's that,
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Speaker 1: and then there's what we saw from Randy on Saturday.
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Speaker 1: And I will defend by the way that from Randy
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Speaker 1: later on in the show. I don't want to use
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Speaker 1: that as the example. I just think there have been
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Speaker 1: way too many lazy at pats, lazy attempts on the
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Speaker 1: base paths, lazy defensive plays, and that is a reflection
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Speaker 1: of the manager. That to me, is the reflection of
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Speaker 1: we're not focused, we're not playing our best, we're not
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Speaker 1: even trying our hardest, And that to me is a
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Speaker 1: reflection of the manager. He's not getting the most out
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Speaker 1: of his team. And that is the bottom line. Managers
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Speaker 1: are judged by nothing more in modern baseball than this.
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Speaker 1: We've given you a team. This is how good it is.
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Speaker 1: This is our expectation. I need you to get us
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Speaker 1: to that expectation, if not beyond, I need you to
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Speaker 1: a great manager. If I've set a goal for this
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Speaker 1: team on paper, AI tells me is worth ninety two wins.
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Speaker 1: This is a ninety two win team. If you're a
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Speaker 1: good manager, you get us ninety five. That's what you want. Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Not.
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Speaker 1: This team should be ten games over five hundred, seven
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Speaker 1: games up in the American League West, and we are
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Speaker 1: under five hundred heading into the All Star break. The
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Speaker 1: roster construction is not the problem. Rob Refsnyder is not
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Speaker 1: the problem. The manager is not getting the most out
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Speaker 1: of the team. And this is too important of a season.
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Speaker 1: There's too much at stake. It's the fiftieth anniversary. We've
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Speaker 1: never made the World Series. We may have a lockout
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Speaker 1: next year. We can't let it end by missing the
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Speaker 1: playoffs in a year in which the American League is
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Speaker 1: down like never before. So I endorse a managerial change
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Speaker 1: this morning. Officially, I don't think they'll do it, but
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Speaker 1: that's my statement on a Monday morning. This is the
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Speaker 1: fire Dan Wilson Show on Chuck and Buck and again,
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Speaker 1: I don't take that lightly, but I think it's time.
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Speaker 1: This team needs a new boss, a new voice, and
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Speaker 1: they need a shakeup. They need to be reminded. You
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Speaker 1: just can't play like garbage and not expect bad things
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Speaker 1: to happen. And I'd like to see it happen before
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Speaker 1: we play another game. Yeah till Friday.
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Speaker 6: Okay, I think that's fair.
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Speaker 1: That's where I'm at. I even have your solutions, which
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Speaker 1: I'll I'll share with you a little bit later on
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Speaker 1: in the show. But right now, let's find out what's
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Speaker 1: All right, I've never had more baseball headlines ever to share.
20:34
Speaker 1: Yeah that time. Yeah, Mariners finished the first half of
20:37
Speaker 1: an eight to two win in Tampa Bay. We'll cover
20:39
Speaker 1: that in Mariner's Morning After at six thirty, But they
20:41
Speaker 1: lost five of their last six to enter the All
20:44
Speaker 1: Star Break, which means, as we sit here this morning,
20:47
Speaker 1: the Mariners are forty eight and forty nine, but believe
20:50
Speaker 1: it or not, the playoffs started tomorrow, we're in. The
20:56
Speaker 1: Mariners would have the third and final wildcard spot in
20:59
Speaker 1: the American League playoffs, one and a half games back
21:01
Speaker 1: of the Texas Rangers. Huge rumor over the weekend regarding
21:06
Speaker 1: the Mariners are looking to trade a starting pitcher. Most
21:10
Speaker 1: people are assuming that's Luis Castillo, but that's going to
21:13
Speaker 1: be highly difficult as I mapped out Friday, and I'll
21:15
Speaker 1: give you more details on that later on this hour.
21:18
Speaker 1: The Home Run Derby is tonight. It's going to be
21:20
Speaker 1: on Netflix, not your normal cable television outlet that you
21:24
Speaker 1: are used to. So yes, Baseball will be streaming the
21:28
Speaker 1: Home Run Derby and there is a brand new format
21:31
Speaker 1: and I have no idea if it's going to work
21:33
Speaker 1: or be successful, but we will talk about it later
21:35
Speaker 1: on in the show. The All Star Game will be
21:37
Speaker 1: played tomorrow. Unfortunately, gravely unfortunately, all sorts of cancelations on
21:44
Speaker 1: the roster. I mean, it's starting to turn into the
21:46
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl, and that's a really sad thing. I mean,
21:48
Speaker 1: it doesn't even look anywhere close to the original rosters
21:53
Speaker 1: that were announced, especially from the pitching staffs, So we'll
21:56
Speaker 1: talk about that later on in the program as well.
21:58
Speaker 1: The Major League Baseball Draft was held over the weekend.
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Speaker 1: Rob Chalowski of UCLA did go one to the White Sox,
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Speaker 1: and the Mariners ended up having maybe the best power
22:08
Speaker 1: hitter in the entire draft fall to them in Ace
22:11
Speaker 1: Reese out of Mississippi State, a third baseman by trade
22:15
Speaker 1: might have to move to first base at some point
22:17
Speaker 1: early in his career, but they viewed that as a
22:22
Speaker 1: real steal at twenty four overall in the draft. The
22:25
Speaker 1: Futures Game was on Sunday the American League One. Kate
22:29
Speaker 1: Anderson and Ryan Sloan both pitched an inning and did
22:32
Speaker 1: not give up a run. That just seems to be
22:35
Speaker 1: their twenty twenty six seasons. The World Cup's going to
22:38
Speaker 1: resume Final four action tomorrow at noon, and Major League
22:43
Speaker 1: Baseball should think they're lucky stars they're playing that during
22:46
Speaker 1: the day. Yeah, seriously, based on all those cancelations and
22:51
Speaker 1: the World Cup fever, they have no chance competing against
22:55
Speaker 1: the World Cup tomorrow.
22:56
Speaker 4: Now.
22:56
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's got some pretty epic matchups.
22:58
Speaker 1: Yeah, France versus Spain tomorrow, England and Argentina will play
23:02
Speaker 1: on Wednesday. Seahawks have a brand new owner. I'm sorry
23:05
Speaker 1: to put this at the very end of the opening segment,
23:08
Speaker 1: but we are going to spend our entire seven o'clock
23:10
Speaker 1: hour talking about that so v nood Koshla, which I
23:16
Speaker 1: looked up the absolute correct pronunciation, and I don't know
23:21
Speaker 1: if I have it, And there's a reason because there
23:23
Speaker 1: were seven of them given by AI and they were
23:27
Speaker 1: all different perfect So I have no idea how to
23:31
Speaker 1: pronounce his name, and I doubt Greg does either. But
23:34
Speaker 1: we'll talk to Greg at seven oh five today and
23:37
Speaker 1: the Huskies won series. We always do it during All
23:40
Speaker 1: Star Week. We'll start today with Scott Eckland. That's right,
23:43
Speaker 1: one analyst breaking down one unit of the Huskies for
23:47
Speaker 1: one entire interview, and that's coming your way today at
23:50
Speaker 1: eight o'clock and throughout the week. So obviously a lot
23:53
Speaker 1: going on Mariners Morning after comes next Sports Radio ninety
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Speaker 1: three point three KJRFM. Rose a rated to right center field.
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Speaker 1: That's deep. Mason goes back at the wall. God, it's
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Speaker 1: out of here.
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Speaker 5: A Rose arrata with a three run shot and at seven.
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Speaker 8: Nothing Seattle barely got out.
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Speaker 1: Had to take a second look it says eleventh on
24:25
Speaker 1: the season barness TV eight to two. The Mariners do
24:33
Speaker 1: win a game on Sunday eight to two over the
24:36
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Rays, only one win on the sixth game
24:39
Speaker 1: road trip to Florida, and so they hit the All
24:42
Speaker 1: Star Break a game under five hundred, a game and
24:45
Speaker 1: a half out of first place. But believe it or not,
24:49
Speaker 1: if the season ended today, they grabbed the third wild
24:52
Speaker 1: card in a first half that was down obviously in
24:56
Speaker 1: the American League. Notice I didn't say bad. I don't
24:58
Speaker 1: think the American League is bad. I think that there
25:00
Speaker 1: are a lot of teams that are pretty decent. They
25:02
Speaker 1: just had bad first halfs, including the Mariners. But I
25:05
Speaker 1: do believe it'll be a different story in the second half,
25:08
Speaker 1: which means they can play a lot better and still
25:10
Speaker 1: be on the outside end because of the way they
25:13
Speaker 1: played in the first half of twenty twenty six. So
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Speaker 1: we'll see how it goes. But we have hit the
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Speaker 1: All Star break officially, and there are a lot of
25:22
Speaker 1: baseball headlines to get to in frost brewed cors like
25:25
Speaker 1: chews chill headlines before we talk some football with Greg Bell,
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Speaker 1: So we better get after it. The Mariners forty eight
25:32
Speaker 1: and forty nine on the season won't play again until Friday. Tonight.
25:36
Speaker 1: The Home Run Derby will take place on Netflix, and
25:40
Speaker 1: it is a great field. I mean, I realized that
25:43
Speaker 1: it didn't turn out to have as many of the
25:47
Speaker 1: superstars as maybe you would hope. But Kyle Schwarber, Ben
25:51
Speaker 1: Rice Junior, Caminero, Jordan Walker, Bryce Harper, Wilson Contreras, Monataka, Moricami,
25:56
Speaker 1: and Jack Caglion, they're going to put on a show
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Speaker 1: to Those guys are going to put on a show tonight.
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Speaker 1: Those are some great, great contestants for this Home Run Derby,
26:08
Speaker 1: and of course we've heard of all of them, unlike
26:11
Speaker 1: an NBA Slam Dunk contest. So where you criticize Baseball,
26:16
Speaker 1: remember what other sports do and how difficult the time
26:20
Speaker 1: that they have trying to get people interested in their exhibitions.
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Speaker 1: So I think Baseball does a phenomenal job getting a
26:28
Speaker 1: field together for the Home Run Derby. There's going to
26:30
Speaker 1: be a brand new format and it is going to
26:32
Speaker 1: be a complete left turn. I don't have time to
26:35
Speaker 1: tell you about it now, but we will discuss it
26:37
Speaker 1: at nine o'clock today. The All Star Game will be
26:39
Speaker 1: played tomorrow. This I have a bigger problem with so
26:42
Speaker 1: many cancelations, so many guys that were on the original
26:45
Speaker 1: rosters that have decided to tap out for this game.
26:48
Speaker 1: It's very unfortunate. I don't want it to end up
26:51
Speaker 1: like the Pro Bowl. After all, we do this in
26:53
Speaker 1: the middle of the season. It's supposed to be a showcase.
26:56
Speaker 1: The Midsummer Classic's right, and that will be tomorrow. But
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Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot of guys sitting out this game,
27:03
Speaker 1: and that's unfortunate. The MLB Draft was held over the weekend.
27:07
Speaker 1: UCLA shortstop Rock Chelowski went number one to the Chicago
27:10
Speaker 1: White Sox and the Mariners took Mississippi State power hitter
27:14
Speaker 1: Ace Reese played third base for the Bulldogs, might play
27:18
Speaker 1: first base eventually in his career, but by all accounts
27:22
Speaker 1: a bit of a steal for the Mariners at twenty
27:24
Speaker 1: four overall. The Futures Game held yesterday the American League
27:27
Speaker 1: one Kate Anderson started the game, scoreless inning from him,
27:31
Speaker 1: scoreless inning from Ryan Sloan, and so those two guys
27:34
Speaker 1: just continue to build their prospect resume. The World Cup's
27:38
Speaker 1: going to resume tomorrow with the final four. France versus
27:42
Speaker 1: Spain will play at noon tomorrow and Baseball's like, whow
27:47
Speaker 1: glad they're not playing primetime, whewy. So you'll have a
27:54
Speaker 1: noon start for France Spain tomorrow and then Baseball should
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Speaker 1: have the American stage to themselves in the evening, and
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Speaker 1: then on Wednesday you'll have Argentina taking on England. So
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Speaker 1: the four that we expected, and I mean that in
28:10
Speaker 1: more ways than one. We'll talk more about that later
28:13
Speaker 1: on in the hour about what we want to talk
28:15
Speaker 1: about right now. The Seattle Seahawks have a brand new owner.
28:20
Speaker 1: It broke over the weekend, Venode Koshla, who we discussed
28:24
Speaker 1: at great length on Friday from Sun Microsystems fifteen billion
28:30
Speaker 1: dollars as what he's earned over his life and he
28:33
Speaker 1: and his family. That's a very important part of the
28:35
Speaker 1: story because his wife's going to be very involved as
28:38
Speaker 1: an owner, his son's going to be very involved as
28:41
Speaker 1: an owner, and Cosla is seventy one years old. So
28:45
Speaker 1: I would imagine the Sun becomes the heir apparent to
28:48
Speaker 1: the Seahawks, you know, Seahawks organization, and so we've got
28:53
Speaker 1: a lot to discuss with our Seahawks insider Greg Bell
28:57
Speaker 1: about this big story that we're going to talk about
29:00
Speaker 1: all hour long here on Chuck and Buck. Good morning, Greg,
29:04
Speaker 1: Good morning.
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Speaker 4: All right.
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Speaker 1: First of all, I've heard his name pronounced thirty eight
29:10
Speaker 1: different ways. Nobody really seems to know. I even entered
29:13
Speaker 1: it in AI this morning and seven AI told me, yeah,
29:19
Speaker 1: but seven different There were like seven different examples of
29:22
Speaker 1: how to how to pronounce his name, and they were
29:25
Speaker 1: all different. How could they all be different? So do
29:28
Speaker 1: you have a handle? Is it Vanad Koshla, Coosla, Coesla?
29:35
Speaker 1: Have you heard it the right way?
29:37
Speaker 4: Kasla?
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Speaker 8: I don't know what the right way is because I've
29:39
Speaker 8: never spoken to him or his family or his wife's son.
29:42
Speaker 8: Kusla is what I was told and what I when
29:46
Speaker 8: he first emerged as a potential bidder.
29:48
Speaker 4: I joke.
29:49
Speaker 8: But it's fitting that you consulted AI because the family's
29:53
Speaker 8: wealth is deeply intertwined in AI. He ten years ago,
29:59
Speaker 8: Cosla was in the beginning stages of AI and investing
30:03
Speaker 8: in it as an entrepreneur. He was on the forefront
30:06
Speaker 8: of this, And of course now it's hugely taken off.
30:10
Speaker 8: Your point at the very beginning about the family is
30:14
Speaker 8: a good one that Benard Cauzla is the front man
30:18
Speaker 8: that everyone's given attention to, and all the reports of
30:21
Speaker 8: this sale lead with him. But in fact, the NFL
30:25
Speaker 8: memorandum that went to all teams on Saturday when the
30:28
Speaker 8: news of this broke to inform the teams of this
30:30
Speaker 8: sale agreement says that his wife, Neru Causel, is going
30:36
Speaker 8: to be the controlling owner.
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Speaker 4: What does that mean?
30:38
Speaker 8: Well, they can divest. They will divest the rod term
30:42
Speaker 8: they could divide the shares of how much they own individually,
30:46
Speaker 8: where her husband could own ex percentage of shares and
30:49
Speaker 8: the son Neil could own expercentage of shares. According to
30:53
Speaker 8: the NFL, the wife Nero is going to own the
30:56
Speaker 8: majority of the shares if she's the controlling owner, that
30:59
Speaker 8: means she would own at least thirty percent, and the
31:02
Speaker 8: league prefers up to fifty percent or more of the shares.
31:05
Speaker 8: Is the controlling owner's interest, so that she is actually
31:10
Speaker 8: the principal owner according to the league, and she would
31:13
Speaker 8: have the ultimate authority as the controlling interest in the club.
31:19
Speaker 8: So who is Nero Causele? I wrote a story last
31:22
Speaker 8: night that I posted this morning at the News Tribune
31:24
Speaker 8: about her. Because no one's talking about her. She was
31:29
Speaker 8: the founder and is the chief executive of something called
31:34
Speaker 8: c K twelve. It's a foundation, a nonprofit, not for profit,
31:38
Speaker 8: I should specify organization that has been founded to make
31:44
Speaker 8: K through twelve education more affordable and more accessible for
31:48
Speaker 8: everyone across the world.
31:50
Speaker 4: She founded this about.
31:52
Speaker 8: Eighteen years ago, twenty years ago now, and they claim
31:56
Speaker 8: to have taught three hundred and seventeen million people across
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Speaker 8: the world for free with AI software, using textbooks that
32:06
Speaker 8: they can provide online to people anywhere, converted into ninety
32:09
Speaker 8: different languages. And it's been her passion in life for
32:14
Speaker 8: education and free education and access for all. And as
32:19
Speaker 8: a not for profit, a lot of her time, effort
32:22
Speaker 8: and moneys have gone to philanthropy. So she's really interesting
32:26
Speaker 8: in a continuation of what has been going on in Seattle.
32:30
Speaker 8: Jody Allen, of course, has been the team chair of
32:33
Speaker 8: the Seahawk since their brother's death in twenty eighteen. Samantha Holloway,
32:37
Speaker 8: the krack and owner, has started One Roop Sports and
32:40
Speaker 8: Entertainment to own the Kraken, the Climate Plagerina and the
32:44
Speaker 8: Seams will and she's already said, will position to bid
32:48
Speaker 8: for the new return of the Sonics in the NBA,
32:51
Speaker 8: and she just brought Melinda Gates, Melinda French Kates on
32:55
Speaker 8: board on one sports Entertainment. So women owning sports teams
32:59
Speaker 8: and the philanthropy legacy. Of course, Paul Island, the nine
33:03
Speaker 8: point six billion dollars sale, all of that money is
33:06
Speaker 8: going to charity. Wow, because that's what Paul Island stipulated
33:09
Speaker 8: in his estate is will as a demand for selling
33:12
Speaker 8: his assets. So it's quite interesting they make Neeru Cosla
33:18
Speaker 8: the point, the primary controlling owner in the NFL specified
33:21
Speaker 8: that to teams because there is a continuation there of
33:25
Speaker 8: what's been going on in Seattle sports and ownership with women.
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Speaker 1: Greg Bellis with US our Seahawks insider talking about the
33:31
Speaker 1: ownership change. I mean that really does need to be
33:34
Speaker 1: repeated and expanded upon. Like all of that money, a
33:38
Speaker 1: record setting number fifty nine percent higher than the other
33:42
Speaker 1: biggest sale in NFL history, and all going to charity.
33:48
Speaker 1: I mean, who's going to be overseeing that? I mean,
33:50
Speaker 1: are we going to get like a detailed breakdown in
33:53
Speaker 1: the future of who gets what? Because my goodness, ten
33:57
Speaker 1: billion dollars and I mean one hundred dollars do you
34:00
Speaker 1: feel like you've given to something. Ten billion dollars should
34:03
Speaker 1: go a long way, right, Greg.
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Speaker 8: Well, yes, and I can think of zillions of things
34:09
Speaker 8: in our country. I wish ten billion dollars would go
34:12
Speaker 8: to education, homelessness, mental health crisis, drug abuse, on and on.
34:19
Speaker 8: But there is such a worldwide array and vast array
34:23
Speaker 8: of interest that Paul Allen had that he's got all
34:28
Speaker 8: kinds of philanthropic interest that he will have dictated. I
34:32
Speaker 8: haven't seen, obviously, the copy of the state of the
34:34
Speaker 8: will to determine where this money goes. But it's not
34:39
Speaker 8: like all nine point six billions going to one place.
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Speaker 8: He's got so many interests across the world. It will
34:44
Speaker 8: be across many, many, many, many, many many spectrums.
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Speaker 1: Greg bell Our Sex Insider with us. So what do
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Speaker 1: the Kaslas know about football?
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Speaker 8: Well, we don't know.
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Speaker 4: We don't know a lot.
34:58
Speaker 8: Frankly, we don't know what they will want to do
35:01
Speaker 8: with the team. We won't know what they will want
35:03
Speaker 8: to change and not change. We will want to know
35:04
Speaker 8: what they want to do with the stadium. What we
35:07
Speaker 8: do know is that there are no indications from the league,
35:10
Speaker 8: from anyone in this process, from anyone anywhere that they're
35:14
Speaker 8: gonna Seahaws are gonna be anywhere, but in Seattle. It's
35:16
Speaker 8: where the league wants the team to be as its
35:18
Speaker 8: anchor in the Pacific Northwest. It's been hugely successful ever
35:21
Speaker 8: since the nord Stroums bottom to bring them into the
35:24
Speaker 8: league in nineteen seventy four. What we do know is
35:28
Speaker 8: that van od Prosla and their son Neil have been
35:33
Speaker 8: attending forty nine Ers games for twenty five years. Has
35:37
Speaker 8: said that back when Neil was five years old, they
35:39
Speaker 8: bought season tickets to the forty nine Ers and they've
35:42
Speaker 8: been going ever since. And that's the reason. In twenty
35:45
Speaker 8: twenty five, in the spring they bought a three point
35:47
Speaker 8: one percent share in the forty nine Ers. It turns
35:51
Speaker 8: out that that's purchase that shittn't alarm Seahawks fans. They
35:55
Speaker 8: have to divest to that and they're not going to
35:57
Speaker 8: be forty nine Ers owners owning the Seahawks. Rules say
36:00
Speaker 8: they got to sell that share.
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Speaker 1: At least he's got effectively new to move on to
36:05
Speaker 1: a better organization.
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Speaker 8: Well, if if you're going from three percent interest to
36:10
Speaker 8: controlling interest, you should probably Yeah, I'd be pretty sure
36:13
Speaker 8: about that.
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Speaker 4: For the cost of nine point six billion.
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Speaker 8: But what that in effect, what that three point one
36:19
Speaker 8: percent stake by in the forty nine ers did, is
36:23
Speaker 8: it familiarized the cause was with the process of NFL ownership.
36:27
Speaker 8: More importantly, it familiarized the NFL and their owners with
36:31
Speaker 8: the causeless because they had to approve them even as
36:34
Speaker 8: a minority owner. All owners have to sale of any
36:37
Speaker 8: portion of any team has to be approved by the other.
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Speaker 4: Thirty one owners.
36:41
Speaker 8: So Commissioner Roger Goodell and all the team owners know
36:44
Speaker 8: these people, and this wasn't a bit out of left
36:47
Speaker 8: field of people that they had not already vetted and
36:50
Speaker 8: approved just a year and a half earlier. So that
36:54
Speaker 8: went a long way toward giving this group a head
36:57
Speaker 8: start over the one that they beat out. Obviously, we
37:00
Speaker 8: don't know Chuck. We don't know what they're gonna do
37:03
Speaker 8: at all. Nobody working for the Seahawks do unless they've
37:06
Speaker 8: talked to him personally, and I don't know that they have.
37:09
Speaker 8: It would be absolutely malpractice for any new owner of
37:12
Speaker 8: any ILK from anywhere, with any experience with anybody to
37:15
Speaker 8: come in and change.
37:16
Speaker 4: The football operations.
37:17
Speaker 8: Obviously, John Schneider has sixteen years the most successful run. Ever,
37:22
Speaker 8: the only two Super Bowl titles the Seahawks have had.
37:25
Speaker 8: He's the fourth longest tenured general manager in the league,
37:29
Speaker 8: third if you don't count Jerry Jones, the owner as
37:31
Speaker 8: the GM of the Cowboys. There's no reason to change
37:35
Speaker 8: with John Snyder's been doing. Snyder and Jody Allen's choice
37:38
Speaker 8: to hire Mike McDonald as the first time he had
37:40
Speaker 8: coach two years ago obviously was a master stroke. Winning
37:45
Speaker 8: the Super Bowl as a first time head coach last year.
37:48
Speaker 8: Nothing football wise should change. But having said that, everything
37:52
Speaker 8: else is on the board to change. The business operation, marketing, sales,
37:58
Speaker 8: community relations. Is there anything that doesn't have to do
38:01
Speaker 8: with between the lines I would think is up for
38:04
Speaker 8: review and change. Because these billionaires don't make billions of
38:07
Speaker 8: dollars just doing it better themselves. They have trusted people
38:11
Speaker 8: that worked with them and all the entrepreneurial endeavors that
38:15
Speaker 8: they've had, and they will undoubtedly bring many of those
38:18
Speaker 8: people with them to Seattle. It is noticeable that they
38:22
Speaker 8: are only the second of the four ownership groups over
38:25
Speaker 8: the fifty four fifty with a fifty two years that
38:29
Speaker 8: the Seahawks have existed, they're only the second one that's
38:32
Speaker 8: not from here, and they norcht Thems. Of course, the
38:35
Speaker 8: original owners sold the Ken Bearing and Bearing is a
38:40
Speaker 8: southern California real estate developer for nine years threatened to
38:43
Speaker 8: move the team to southern California. That's why Paul Island
38:46
Speaker 8: Bottom and the Seahawks have enjoyed a unusually stable, local
38:50
Speaker 8: based ownership group with the Island family for the last
38:53
Speaker 8: thirty years. So that's not the Norman professional sports and
38:58
Speaker 8: it is not unusual at all for teams to be
39:00
Speaker 8: owned by owners from out of town, and for the
39:02
Speaker 8: first time in thirty years, the Seahawks are in that situation.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, what a unique situation. I think of my old
39:09
Speaker 1: professor in college, John Regnew, when I said something was
39:12
Speaker 1: very unique, he goes, that's impossible. It's either unique or
39:15
Speaker 1: it's not. There's no degree of uniqueness. And so I've
39:18
Speaker 1: always remembered that now this is truly unique. You're never
39:21
Speaker 1: going to see a sale like this again. You're never
39:23
Speaker 1: going to see all the money handed over to charity.
39:26
Speaker 1: You're never going to see a relationship passing of the
39:28
Speaker 1: torch from brother to sister to sail And now we
39:34
Speaker 1: try to get to know an ownership group that has
39:38
Speaker 1: never truly owned a professional franchise before. So, I mean,
39:43
Speaker 1: sports fans have a tendency to worry anyway, and then
39:48
Speaker 1: you're coming off a Super Bowl. The last thing you
39:50
Speaker 1: want is the boat rocked. After coming off of Super
39:53
Speaker 1: Bowl things are going really well. So what, if anything,
39:57
Speaker 1: do you think a Mariner should be. A Seahawks fan
40:00
Speaker 1: should be justifiably worried.
40:03
Speaker 4: About a Mariner. Fans should be worried about a lot, but.
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Speaker 8: A Seahawks fan should be worried about the fact because
40:13
Speaker 8: they aren't from here. They just don't have an innate
40:16
Speaker 8: sense for the Pacific Northwest sports fan, for the legacy
40:19
Speaker 8: and history of the team. That's why I thought the
40:22
Speaker 8: choice of words of an old Cosla had in his
40:24
Speaker 8: statement on Saturday was interesting. He said, we are thrilled
40:28
Speaker 8: I'm paraphrasing we're thrilled and excited to carry forth the
40:31
Speaker 8: legacy of the Allen family's ownership of the Seahawks. He
40:34
Speaker 8: gets the concern, he gets that they're not from here,
40:38
Speaker 8: and he gets people who are gonna say, wait a minute,
40:40
Speaker 8: they're not from here.
40:41
Speaker 4: He wants the.
40:41
Speaker 8: First words to be that we appreciate and continue, we
40:45
Speaker 8: expect to continue the legacy of the Allen ownership group.
40:48
Speaker 8: That's a tall order. Paul Allen kept the Seahawks here,
40:52
Speaker 8: kept them from moving. They got him the new stadium,
40:55
Speaker 8: they brought he Paul Allen dispatched Todd Laywicki to Los
40:59
Speaker 8: Angeles to get Pete Carol out of USC to change
41:02
Speaker 8: the fortunes of the middling franchise that had been the Seahawks,
41:05
Speaker 8: the eight and eight, nine and seven, seven and nine.
41:08
Speaker 4: Seahawks for decades. Paul Allen did that.
41:11
Speaker 8: Paul Allen made the Seahawks what we know the Seahawks
41:14
Speaker 8: be today, super Bowl champions, perennial playoff contenders that pack
41:19
Speaker 8: a stadium that shakes and rocks and beast quakes. Paul
41:22
Speaker 8: Allen did all of that. And so nobody's going to
41:25
Speaker 8: be an owner like Paul Allen ever, especially ones that
41:28
Speaker 8: are from the Bay Area. So let's just state that
41:32
Speaker 8: off the top.
41:33
Speaker 4: But if you're a.
41:33
Speaker 8: Seahawks fan, you have to be encouraged about the unprecedentedness
41:37
Speaker 8: of this. No Super Bowl champion has ever been sold
41:40
Speaker 8: in the months after winning it all, so that even
41:43
Speaker 8: more underlines the fact that you don't mess with the
41:46
Speaker 8: football operation. Most professional sports franchises are sold in some
41:50
Speaker 8: state of transition or devalue. I hate to even bring
41:55
Speaker 8: it up, but think Sonics, Think, think any franchise, even
42:00
Speaker 8: the Lakers that just sold for ten billion, the record
42:02
Speaker 8: they owned the second They're the only richer deal than
42:06
Speaker 8: the Seahawks deal in North American sports history. Even the
42:09
Speaker 8: Lakers if Lebron James coming in and Kobe Bryant passing
42:14
Speaker 8: away and the former championships and not been able to
42:16
Speaker 8: replicate it since. And they even they are in something
42:20
Speaker 8: of a transition period from what their legacy used to be.
42:23
Speaker 8: This is the height of the Seahawks. This is it,
42:25
Speaker 8: This is their peak. That you don't see franchises sold
42:29
Speaker 8: like this in this situation, especially not mere months after they.
42:33
Speaker 4: Won it all.
42:35
Speaker 8: I think that should be a sav and soothing to
42:40
Speaker 8: Seahawks fans concerns that the Navy is good. They haven't
42:44
Speaker 8: owned the professional sports franchise and they can leave the
42:46
Speaker 8: football side alone.
42:47
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I do want to give you the opportunity
42:50
Speaker 1: to sort of address it, because you thought and correct
42:53
Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong, kind of all along that some
42:55
Speaker 1: sort of secret local guy was there in the weeds
42:58
Speaker 1: and would ended up owning this franchise that didn't happen.
43:03
Speaker 1: Why did that not ever?
43:05
Speaker 8: No, and there was that And I don't know since Saturday,
43:11
Speaker 8: or even in the day's leading the Saturday, whether that
43:14
Speaker 8: person was outdid or didn't get interested. But it was
43:17
Speaker 8: obviously the two multiple bidders against each other drove the
43:22
Speaker 8: price up, and that was what Jody Allen and Burke
43:25
Speaker 8: Cold were seeking before the maximum value for the philanthropic
43:29
Speaker 8: interest of Paul Allen. I don't know how far down
43:32
Speaker 8: that there was. It was an area was the possibility
43:36
Speaker 8: it did materialize, and I don't know if that's because
43:39
Speaker 8: the person was outbid or just the price got higher
43:43
Speaker 8: than they wanted to do. It also bears repeating that
43:47
Speaker 8: the cause was the three that.
43:48
Speaker 4: We know of.
43:49
Speaker 8: The husband, the wife, and the Sun aren't going to
43:52
Speaker 8: be the only owners. The NFL statement and memos of
43:55
Speaker 8: the teams made clear that there will be other limited partners.
44:00
Speaker 8: The NFL rules say.
44:01
Speaker 4: That can be up to twenty.
44:02
Speaker 8: Four limited partners for a total of twenty five owners.
44:05
Speaker 8: A controlling owner plus twenty four limited partners. I'm not
44:09
Speaker 8: saying there's gonna be twenty two in the NFL saying
44:11
Speaker 8: that there will be a few limited partners, several is
44:14
Speaker 8: what the term was in the memo, suggests it won't
44:17
Speaker 8: be twenty two. But there is the possibility that some
44:20
Speaker 8: of the minority owners have ownership experience in professional sports.
44:24
Speaker 4: We don't know that.
44:25
Speaker 8: Yet either, I guess I should say. Overall to this
44:27
Speaker 8: conversation is we don't know. Yeah, we have two, we
44:31
Speaker 8: have owners coming in that they're from out of town
44:33
Speaker 8: who have never owned a professional sports franchise before, and
44:36
Speaker 8: there are a lot we don't know.
44:38
Speaker 1: No doubt. All Right, So what are you gonna talk
44:40
Speaker 1: about today at ten o'clock?
44:42
Speaker 8: Well, this, and I'm going to explain quite a bit
44:45
Speaker 8: about how I find it interesting that COSLA's wife is
44:50
Speaker 8: the controlling partner here and the continuity in the Seattle
44:53
Speaker 8: ownership and women and philanthropy. Just I explained to you,
44:56
Speaker 8: we'll talk about that, we'll talk to them about the
44:59
Speaker 8: see the Mariner in there. I'll start a break as well.
45:02
Speaker 8: And I don't know, Chuck, I guess they also break
45:05
Speaker 8: comes at a good time this year. Sometimes they don't
45:07
Speaker 8: come at a good time, but it seems like you keep
45:08
Speaker 8: it a good time.
45:09
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, I think maybe not for all, but yeah,
45:13
Speaker 1: all right, well well listen at ten. Thanks man, We
45:16
Speaker 1: appreciate it.
45:17
Speaker 4: All right, Happy Monday, all right.
45:19
Speaker 1: Greg Bell, our Seahawks insider, also right here on KHAR
45:22
Speaker 1: from ten to noon every day, so we'll have more
45:24
Speaker 1: on this story coming up. If you want to follow
45:26
Speaker 1: him on x at gmail Seattle or Thenewstribune dot com.
45:30
Speaker 1: He's got all sorts of articles up right now discussing
45:33
Speaker 1: the ownership change for the Seattle Seahawks, and we will
45:38
Speaker 1: as a show discuss the node KOSHLA next Sports Radio
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Speaker 1: ninety three point three kh A r f M. My
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Speaker 1: name is Chuck Powell. Ashley Ryan with you as well,
45:47
Speaker 1: not just here on the radio station but also YouTube
45:50
Speaker 1: where you're watching us every day and judging me on
45:52
Speaker 1: my brand new goatee. But I do realize that it
45:56
Speaker 1: was a little fuller up. It was a little bit more.
46:00
Speaker 7: I noticed that, and I noticed you also went with
46:01
Speaker 7: a black shirt. Ryan, Heally would be very proud.
46:03
Speaker 1: I did go with the black shirt. Yeah, probably a
46:06
Speaker 1: little too warm for later today, But then again, we
46:09
Speaker 1: get up at ridiculous hours.
46:11
Speaker 6: Yeah in the icebox.
46:12
Speaker 1: Yeah, so good to have you with us here this morning.
46:14
Speaker 1: And I got two big topics. We got a change
46:16
Speaker 1: in Seahawk's ownership, which we discussed for nearly the entire
46:19
Speaker 1: seven o'clock hour. And I also went way out on
46:23
Speaker 1: a limb, maybe not so far out on a limb
46:26
Speaker 1: this morning, and I did make the statement that I
46:29
Speaker 1: think it's time for a managerial change with our baseball team,
46:32
Speaker 1: which we will discuss in greater detail a little bit
46:35
Speaker 1: later on this hour. But today also marks the day
46:39
Speaker 1: of our Huskies one series. You know what we do
46:43
Speaker 1: in June, every single day throughout the month, one analyst
46:46
Speaker 1: breaking down one key Shawk player for one entire interview. Well,
46:49
Speaker 1: we spend a week in July getting you ready for
46:52
Speaker 1: a Huskies training camp as well, one of our analysts
46:55
Speaker 1: in town breaking down one unit of the Huskies roster
46:58
Speaker 1: for one entire interview. And we get that started right
47:01
Speaker 1: now with our friend from dog Man, Scott Eckland, now
47:05
Speaker 1: joins this year on Chuck and Buck in the morning.
47:07
Speaker 1: Can you believe it? Football is almost here? Mister Eckland.
47:10
Speaker 1: I know that now because I'm talking to you.
47:13
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, guys. It's great to be on and
47:16
Speaker 3: excited to start talking some Husky football right after fourth
47:20
Speaker 3: of July, the blood starts flowing just a little bit differently.
47:23
Speaker 3: It's you can tell that we're getting close.
47:27
Speaker 4: You know.
47:27
Speaker 1: I usually think about it when I buy my first
47:30
Speaker 1: college football magazine, which I know sounds old school. You
47:34
Speaker 1: just use the old internet, right, But I still buy
47:37
Speaker 1: a college football magazine every year, and I have yet
47:40
Speaker 1: to do that. So maybe i'll go get that done
47:42
Speaker 1: near tonight.
47:44
Speaker 4: Yeah.
47:44
Speaker 3: I was that same person, Chuck, just like you. You
47:47
Speaker 3: and I are. I think I'm a little older, but
47:50
Speaker 3: not much older than you. So you and I come
47:51
Speaker 3: from that generation where we still had to read newspapers
47:54
Speaker 3: and got black ink on our on our fingers and
47:58
Speaker 3: everything like that. But yeah, and actually it's funny this
48:01
Speaker 3: year I am the same way. I usually buy a
48:04
Speaker 3: magazine and haven't done so yet.
48:06
Speaker 1: Yeah, well maybe today, And maybe it's an excuse to
48:09
Speaker 1: go over to my local Barns and Noble. All right, Well,
48:12
Speaker 1: great to have you with us. Good to hear your voice.
48:15
Speaker 1: It does mean football's almost here, and I'm looking forward
48:18
Speaker 1: to this breakdown here today. Scott has chosen the front
48:22
Speaker 1: seven to discuss for the upcoming Huskies season, and I
48:26
Speaker 1: think we got to discuss first Scott those that have left,
48:30
Speaker 1: and I think of two names in particular, Zach Durfy, who,
48:34
Speaker 1: I hate to say it never did quite live up
48:36
Speaker 1: to the lofty expectations that we set for him here
48:40
Speaker 1: as a football community. And then Antarotario Thompson, who maybe
48:45
Speaker 1: just the opposite, just consistently grinded and was just good
48:51
Speaker 1: and maybe went overlooked during his time as a Washington Husky.
48:55
Speaker 1: They're both in the National Football League right now. How
48:58
Speaker 1: difficult is it going to be for Jed Fish and
49:01
Speaker 1: his staff to replace these two guys.
49:04
Speaker 3: Well, the one thing that you really have to look
49:08
Speaker 3: at is the fact that those are two leaders for you,
49:12
Speaker 3: no question. But Washington returns a couple of experienced guys,
49:18
Speaker 3: one at edge and one along the interior that are
49:20
Speaker 3: definitely gonna help the help them. They brought in a
49:23
Speaker 3: couple of nice transfers, nice guys that they can add
49:28
Speaker 3: to the depth along the defensive line. But they have
49:34
Speaker 3: some ridiculously talented younger guys that are gonna be impactful,
49:40
Speaker 3: not just this year, but in the in the future
49:42
Speaker 3: going forward, namely Derek Coleman. Bruce is the top in
49:46
Speaker 3: state recruit from the state of Washington for the twenty
49:49
Speaker 3: twenty six recruiting class was six five to seventy when
49:55
Speaker 3: he wrapped up his high school career. Wow, and is
49:59
Speaker 3: already up right around three hundred pounds since he arrived
50:02
Speaker 3: in January. So he is going to be an absolute beast.
50:05
Speaker 3: But you got to remember, these kids are freshmen. They're
50:08
Speaker 3: gonna make mistakes, They're going to do things that kind
50:11
Speaker 3: of give Jason Kafusi and Ryan Walter some gray hairs
50:16
Speaker 3: more than they already have. But you know, these are
50:19
Speaker 3: these are very talented guys that the Huskies are really, really,
50:23
Speaker 3: really excited to have. What I'm really looking forward to
50:26
Speaker 3: is the person that they they have replacing Tony caster Cone,
50:31
Speaker 3: that person pronouncing t i umu case, which is too
50:38
Speaker 3: fa ion atana umu case. It's gonna be real interesting
50:42
Speaker 3: to hear him his name be announced. But no, a
50:45
Speaker 3: lot of a lot of talent coming back. Lennius Davis
50:48
Speaker 3: up front as well Jacob Laine, Devin Hide. These are
50:52
Speaker 3: going to be two guys that make some impacts on
50:54
Speaker 3: the outside. And then you got your linebackers. You know
50:58
Speaker 3: who these guys are specially, I think they're one of
51:00
Speaker 3: the top ten units in the entire country. You know,
51:03
Speaker 3: some of the national pundits don't put them there. But
51:06
Speaker 3: I think a lot of people are sleeping on what
51:09
Speaker 3: Washington has going going on at the linebacker spot.
51:12
Speaker 1: I'll expand on that. Why do you say that, what
51:14
Speaker 1: is it about the group or the individuals that you
51:18
Speaker 1: are so high on?
51:20
Speaker 3: Well, you know, you know, except for maybe a select
51:24
Speaker 3: few schools in this country, guys like ex Ray Alexander, Xadrias,
51:30
Speaker 3: Rainy Silay, Jacob Manu, those guys could all be starting
51:35
Speaker 3: at other schools in this country, and you're only going
51:38
Speaker 3: to be playing two at a time, so one of
51:40
Speaker 3: those guys is not going to be starting. The other
51:43
Speaker 3: good thing is they're versatile. Jacob Manu is almost strictly
51:47
Speaker 3: an off ball linebacker, but Zadrius, Rainy Slay and x
51:52
Speaker 3: Ray Alexander both have the ability to slide down and
51:57
Speaker 3: maybe play an outside edge and technique and nine technique
52:01
Speaker 3: guys who can rush the quarterback from those wide angles
52:05
Speaker 3: that that can really make a difference. And so I
52:07
Speaker 3: think Ryan Walters really loves versatilities that those guys bring
52:12
Speaker 3: to the table. Jacob Manu and one thing that Jedfish
52:16
Speaker 3: has said over and over when he's healthy, and he
52:18
Speaker 3: got he got healthy late in uh In in like
52:23
Speaker 3: late September, and he he only played four games last
52:26
Speaker 3: year because they hadn't instituted the five five five for
52:30
Speaker 3: five rule yet, so he only plays four games last year,
52:35
Speaker 3: but every game that he played, he made a huge
52:37
Speaker 3: impact in He's a guy that Jedfish said every time
52:41
Speaker 3: he's on the field, he has a problem for the
52:43
Speaker 3: offense and he's a guy that we could, we we
52:46
Speaker 3: should have on that on that on that field, and
52:49
Speaker 3: so he's kind of your your director. But he's only
52:52
Speaker 3: like five to nine five ten, so that's really gonna
52:55
Speaker 3: be That's why he's kind of restricted to playing just
52:58
Speaker 3: in that middle linebacker spot. But Alexander is roughly six
53:02
Speaker 3: two sixty three and Xadrius rainy Lay is almost sixty four,
53:06
Speaker 3: So those guys can play outside, and that's why their
53:09
Speaker 3: versatility is going to allow them to come from different
53:12
Speaker 3: angles and let Ryan Walters do a lot of different
53:14
Speaker 3: things up front.
53:15
Speaker 1: Scott Eckland is with us from dog Man joins us
53:19
Speaker 1: every year for our Huskies one series, one analyst in
53:22
Speaker 1: town breaking down one unit on the Huskies for one
53:25
Speaker 1: entire interview, and we are starting today with our one
53:29
Speaker 1: series by discussing the Front seven. By the way, just
53:33
Speaker 1: as a side note, I don't think anyone ever in
53:35
Speaker 1: the history of broadcasting was better than Castor Cone at
53:38
Speaker 1: pronouncing names. He is amazing. Yeah, he's amazing. He never misses.
53:43
Speaker 1: I asked him about it one time and he looked
53:45
Speaker 1: at me like, it's not that hard, Like, no, no,
53:47
Speaker 1: it's just not hard for you, Bud, some of these,
53:52
Speaker 1: you know.
53:53
Speaker 3: I still think, and you know this is you know,
53:57
Speaker 3: I kind of put myself on the line here because
53:59
Speaker 3: it's a cold trial thing. But you know, when the
54:02
Speaker 3: when the Polynesian community became so prevalent in football over
54:08
Speaker 3: the last I don't know what two decades, you know,
54:10
Speaker 3: where we've seen more and more Islander people with Islander
54:14
Speaker 3: backgrounds coming into things. The play by play men and
54:19
Speaker 3: and the analysts having to pronounce these names has been
54:24
Speaker 3: has been very challenging for them. So I put kudos
54:28
Speaker 3: on anybody who can pronounce all these names correctly and
54:30
Speaker 3: keep them straight.
54:31
Speaker 1: Yeah, Castor Cone was special. All right, Scott Eckland with
54:35
Speaker 1: us here on the chalgging back. All right, let's talk
54:37
Speaker 1: about Coleman Bruce, So we haven't spent enough time on him,
54:39
Speaker 1: because man, he has been creating a buzz. Maybe more so,
54:44
Speaker 1: might I argue here Cody Green. It seems like are
54:47
Speaker 1: the two guys both freshmen that we're creating the most
54:51
Speaker 1: buzz during springball. So tell Husky fans what we're getting
54:56
Speaker 1: in Derek Coleman brus and how quickly he could impact
55:02
Speaker 1: make a major impact on this football team.
55:05
Speaker 3: Well, so just so people know, he's he was running
55:09
Speaker 3: with the first unit for almost the entirety of spring football.
55:13
Speaker 3: So the fact that he's a freshman is not going
55:15
Speaker 3: to play into anything. That kid is gonna play, and
55:18
Speaker 3: he's gonna play a lot this year. Do I think
55:20
Speaker 3: he's going to be necessarily the starter coming out Matt Probably,
55:24
Speaker 3: But I think he's gonna get a challenge from Darren Conley,
55:28
Speaker 3: who is a really good defensive lineman that came in
55:32
Speaker 3: the transfer port from a from a group of five
55:35
Speaker 3: school out there in the mac and you know he's
55:39
Speaker 3: but he's gonna those two are going to battle for
55:42
Speaker 3: for playing time in reps. Next to Olenius Davis, but
55:45
Speaker 3: he just gives you a lot of a lot of
55:47
Speaker 3: versatility I mean at six five, three hundred pounds, he
55:49
Speaker 3: can still be a stand up guy who plays on
55:51
Speaker 3: the edge, although he's probably gonna be better a better
55:55
Speaker 3: fit along along the front as a three technique, that
55:59
Speaker 3: guy who's just on the outside shoulder or I'm sorry,
56:02
Speaker 3: inside shoulder of the of the guard in between the
56:05
Speaker 3: center and guard. Uh, gonna be able to pass rush
56:08
Speaker 3: the quarterback. But also has that bulk and that size
56:12
Speaker 3: and that quickness that can make things really hard in
56:15
Speaker 3: their run blocking schemes. He can blow up a lot
56:17
Speaker 3: of plays up front. So he was, you know, the
56:20
Speaker 3: the offensive line, which for Washington has kind of started
56:24
Speaker 3: to become a strength for them. The interior guys that
56:27
Speaker 3: he faced off with every day in practice said he's
56:30
Speaker 3: gonna be a problem. He's already gotten better against us
56:33
Speaker 3: in the fifteen practices that we had, and he's only
56:37
Speaker 3: going to get better as he gets more experience. Obviously,
56:40
Speaker 3: faul Camp, he's gonna get a lot of experience playing
56:42
Speaker 3: against Washington's offensive line this year, and then he's got
56:45
Speaker 3: three games to warm up against in the in the
56:49
Speaker 3: you know, the preseason, I guess is what you call
56:51
Speaker 3: it the out of conference schedule before he hits. He
56:55
Speaker 3: hits the ground running against Minnesota that last week of
56:58
Speaker 3: September and the to start making ten plays. So he's
57:01
Speaker 3: got a lot of time to get some experience and
57:04
Speaker 3: get a lot of coach a really good coaching from
57:06
Speaker 3: Jason Cafusi as well as Ryan Walters and what they
57:10
Speaker 3: want him to do. But yeah, special kids, special player
57:14
Speaker 3: comes from a great family. His brother Loewen is a
57:16
Speaker 3: recher Well, I guess they don't call him recherd freshman
57:19
Speaker 3: anymore because they get five years down. But is a
57:22
Speaker 3: is a second year player along the offensive line. He's
57:25
Speaker 3: not going to figure in the depth this year, but
57:27
Speaker 3: probably next year. But you know, they come from a
57:30
Speaker 3: great family. They're they're hard workers, They're they're you know,
57:33
Speaker 3: I hate to he use the cliche lunch pail guys,
57:35
Speaker 3: but they really are. Considering how talented both of those
57:38
Speaker 3: guys are, but especially Derek, he just he brings his
57:42
Speaker 3: lunch play to work every day. He's very engaging. He
57:45
Speaker 3: doesn't have that superstar mentality. He's got the mentality of hey,
57:49
Speaker 3: I'm a freshman. I need to come in and work
57:51
Speaker 3: and work harder than everybody else because I want this
57:55
Speaker 3: and I want to play as soon as possible.
57:57
Speaker 1: Well, you brought up Alukese and uh a little prising
58:00
Speaker 1: to me. I mean, I just randomly brought up a
58:03
Speaker 1: depth chart. I don't know how accurate it is, but
58:05
Speaker 1: it has him in on the fourth string at this
58:09
Speaker 1: on this particular depth chart. So how how much are
58:13
Speaker 1: we talking about him pressing for playing time a rotational piece?
58:17
Speaker 1: Is he somebody that might be starting at the end
58:19
Speaker 1: of the year. Is he gonna star? I mean, tell
58:21
Speaker 1: me a little bit more about him.
58:23
Speaker 3: Yeah, so he's he's a guy who isn't isn't You're
58:28
Speaker 3: probably not gonna see a lot of him early on.
58:31
Speaker 3: I think he's gonna have to work his way into things,
58:33
Speaker 3: probably because they're very loaded at that nose tackle spot.
58:38
Speaker 3: And and you know, Deshaun Wats was a great pickup
58:41
Speaker 3: from Sacramento State. He just is about five to eleven,
58:45
Speaker 3: three hundred and I don't know, three hundred and ten
58:47
Speaker 3: pounds whatever he is, but he's he's a guy who
58:50
Speaker 3: really surprised in camp and is is just a fire
58:55
Speaker 3: plug and and a energizer bunny inside. So he's gonna
58:59
Speaker 3: be He's gonna back up, Uh, Alineus Davis you're also
59:03
Speaker 3: gonna see Darren Conley in there. We already kind of
59:04
Speaker 3: talked about him.
59:05
Speaker 1: They're gonna kind.
59:06
Speaker 3: Of work through a rotation, so we probably won't see
59:09
Speaker 3: a ton of him early on, but I think as
59:11
Speaker 3: the season goes along, we'll see a lot more of him.
59:14
Speaker 3: He's a he's a depth piece, of rotational piece right now.
59:17
Speaker 3: But in you know, Elineus Davis has I'm trying to
59:22
Speaker 3: remember off the top of my head, but I think
59:23
Speaker 3: he's got two more years this coming year, in the
59:26
Speaker 3: following year with the fifth year, and I think that
59:30
Speaker 3: Umu case could be really I'm pressuring him for playing
59:35
Speaker 3: time and possibly even a starting spot, not this year
59:39
Speaker 3: but probably but possibly next year, and he'll be a
59:42
Speaker 3: very key rotational piece for Washington just this year and
59:45
Speaker 3: next year and heading into the future.
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Speaker 1: Are we going to get rid of the freshman sophomore, junior,
59:50
Speaker 1: senior and just call him?
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Speaker 8: Yeah?
59:53
Speaker 3: I have no idea how we're gonna do it. I
59:55
Speaker 3: think we're just gonna call end up calling him first
59:57
Speaker 3: and second your players now, you know, like they do
1:00:00
Speaker 3: in the NFL, because you can't call him cherd freshman anymore,
1:00:05
Speaker 3: so you you could call him you can call him freshman, sophomore, junior, senior,
1:00:12
Speaker 3: super senior or something high want to call him?
1:00:14
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Well, well we haven't invented a new term
1:00:18
Speaker 1: for a while. Maybe it's time to do that. Scott
1:00:21
Speaker 1: Ecklin is with us our Huskies won series talking about
1:00:24
Speaker 1: the Dogs front seven. All right, who's going to get
1:00:26
Speaker 1: after the quarterback? I mean, we've we've launched some praise
1:00:31
Speaker 1: toward the linebacker group. Uh, and we've got a lot
1:00:34
Speaker 1: of interesting interior defensive lineman. It sounds like, but who's
1:00:38
Speaker 1: going to sack opposing quarterbacks this year? Scott?
1:00:41
Speaker 3: Well, so Jacob Blaine is going to be one of
1:00:43
Speaker 3: your your outside guys for sure as a starter.
1:00:46
Speaker 8: He is.
1:00:47
Speaker 3: He's a guy from Emerald Ridge down there in Puyallup.
1:00:51
Speaker 3: He started from the moment that he got here. He
1:00:54
Speaker 3: is a fourth year player, so he's a guy who'd
1:00:56
Speaker 3: never read shirted and he will. So he will have
1:00:59
Speaker 3: this year and next year. That's a huge bonus for
1:01:02
Speaker 3: Washington if he ends up deciding to stay. He and
1:01:05
Speaker 3: I talked a little bit this offseason when I ran
1:01:07
Speaker 3: into him at something at an event, and he basically said,
1:01:11
Speaker 3: you know, I'm hearing you know, fifth round right now,
1:01:14
Speaker 3: because of my ability to stop the run. If I
1:01:16
Speaker 3: can show some pass rush, maybe I could bounce up
1:01:18
Speaker 3: a little bit. But you know, we'll see.
1:01:21
Speaker 8: You know, he might just.
1:01:22
Speaker 3: Decide, hey, I'm not going to boost my stock anymore
1:01:24
Speaker 3: and head head to the NFL. But he will have
1:01:27
Speaker 3: that fifth year available to him if he decides he
1:01:29
Speaker 3: wants to stay. But that being said, this year, talking
1:01:31
Speaker 3: about this year, he's going to be one of your leaders.
1:01:34
Speaker 8: Up front.
1:01:34
Speaker 3: You've got Devin Hyde. I already kind of talked about him.
1:01:37
Speaker 3: He and a guy by the name of Russell Davis
1:01:40
Speaker 3: Will will be battling for reps as the starting other
1:01:46
Speaker 3: edge on the other side of Jacob Laine. And you
1:01:49
Speaker 3: also have Isaiah Ward and Davis and Ward when they
1:01:53
Speaker 3: are healthy, and that's the key word with them healthy.
1:01:56
Speaker 3: When they are healthy, they are special pass rushers and
1:02:00
Speaker 3: he could actually get after the quarterback. And I don't
1:02:03
Speaker 3: know if they have double digit sack abilities because of
1:02:05
Speaker 3: their I don't want to call them liable, you know,
1:02:08
Speaker 3: liabilities against the run, but they're definitely not able to
1:02:11
Speaker 3: anchor as much they're they're in the two hundred and
1:02:13
Speaker 3: thirty five to two hundred and forty pound range. But
1:02:15
Speaker 3: those are guys who can do a lot of damage
1:02:17
Speaker 3: for you on the outside as a pass rusher, So
1:02:20
Speaker 3: the key will be keeping them healthy. Russell Davis didn't
1:02:22
Speaker 3: played down for the Huskies last year because of his
1:02:26
Speaker 3: because of a leg injury that he suffered. And Isaiah
1:02:30
Speaker 3: Ward was a spot player here and there did did
1:02:33
Speaker 3: some things for the Huskies last year, but really didn't
1:02:35
Speaker 3: make much of an impact as a pass rusher that
1:02:37
Speaker 3: you'd like to see. But both of those guys have
1:02:39
Speaker 3: natural pass rushing ability, and I think that's who that's
1:02:43
Speaker 3: kind of top four. As long as Davis, as long
1:02:45
Speaker 3: as all four of them are healthy, they are going
1:02:48
Speaker 3: to be the top four guys you know, thrown at offenses.
1:02:53
Speaker 3: But then you're gonna sprinkling guys like JD. Hill, who
1:02:58
Speaker 3: is a true freshman out of Mission Viejo. If he
1:03:02
Speaker 3: was if he was two or three inches taller, we're
1:03:05
Speaker 3: talking about a possible five star guy. His productivity was
1:03:08
Speaker 3: off the charts, but he's about six to two and
1:03:10
Speaker 3: so a lot of people think he's gonna move inside,
1:03:14
Speaker 3: but he's gonna start out outside for the Huskies. Uh,
1:03:17
Speaker 3: you got David Schwarzel, who's a freshman from Odey High School.
1:03:20
Speaker 3: You got Tom Malu who's a freshman from Charles Wright
1:03:24
Speaker 3: who's only played two years of football. He's been he's
1:03:28
Speaker 3: his only two years of football were the two years
1:03:30
Speaker 3: of Charles Wright has played football. So but he was
1:03:33
Speaker 3: an MMA guy. He was planning on an MMA career
1:03:36
Speaker 3: but got a little too big and so he ended
1:03:40
Speaker 3: up deciding to play football and loved it, and so
1:03:43
Speaker 3: he'll be at Washington as well. So that's kind of
1:03:46
Speaker 3: the group out there along the defensive line. I'm also
1:03:51
Speaker 3: forgetting about Logan and I'm drawing a blank on his
1:03:54
Speaker 3: last time. I don't have the the roster up in
1:03:57
Speaker 3: front of me, but Logan, let's see Logan George. Yeah,
1:04:02
Speaker 3: I help want to say Clark Logan George, who was
1:04:05
Speaker 3: a transfer from Ohio State. He actually went to Idaho State,
1:04:09
Speaker 3: transferred to Ohio State and was injured for much last
1:04:13
Speaker 3: year and wanted to get back out here to the
1:04:15
Speaker 3: West Coast, and so he came back out. We didn't
1:04:17
Speaker 3: see much of him because he was injured this spring,
1:04:20
Speaker 3: but the coaches really like what he brings to the table.
1:04:22
Speaker 3: He's not going to give you you know, double digit sacks,
1:04:25
Speaker 3: but he could give you, you know, ten to fifteen
1:04:28
Speaker 3: reps per game as an edge guy and just this smart, savvy,
1:04:35
Speaker 3: veteran guy. He's a I think I believe he's twenty
1:04:37
Speaker 3: three years old, so he's gonna be a guy's who
1:04:40
Speaker 3: can be like a Jacob Laane, just that that leader
1:04:43
Speaker 3: has played at a high level and done some really
1:04:46
Speaker 3: exciting things, maybe at a lower level, but can really
1:04:50
Speaker 3: help Washington with their with their depths at the edge spot.
1:04:54
Speaker 1: All right, what can we promote for you?
1:04:57
Speaker 3: Well, you know, we've got our previews starting later this
1:05:00
Speaker 3: week are our position previews, so come on over for that,
1:05:05
Speaker 3: you know, as we ramp up for fall camp. Fall
1:05:07
Speaker 3: camp starts on the sixth of August and goes all
1:05:11
Speaker 3: the way through late August before they hit game week
1:05:15
Speaker 3: and then then they close everything down. Dog Man will
1:05:18
Speaker 3: be covering everything for you. We're working through a commitment
1:05:20
Speaker 3: from last weekend of one of the top corners in
1:05:23
Speaker 3: the country Sincere Gaylord. He committed to Washington, So we're
1:05:27
Speaker 3: analyzing those kind of things. We've got a lot for
1:05:29
Speaker 3: you going on, even though it is the off season.
1:05:31
Speaker 1: Yep, no doubt, always do all right man, thank you
1:05:34
Speaker 1: very much. Always a pleasure. We will talk to you soon.
1:05:37
Speaker 1: Football's almost here.
1:05:39
Speaker 3: Oh thanks guys. I look forward to it every year
1:05:41
Speaker 3: and if you guys need anything, give me a shout.
1:05:43
Speaker 4: All right.
1:05:43
Speaker 1: Scott Eckland from dog Man joining us right here, and
1:05:46
Speaker 1: of course, of course twenty four to seven Sports as well.
1:05:50
Speaker 1: If you want to follow Scott, do so at Scott
1:05:52
Speaker 1: e k l U n D. Dog Man does a
1:05:55
Speaker 1: phenomenal job for Husky fans out there, and so we'll
1:05:59
Speaker 1: do this once per day all week long here on
1:06:03
Speaker 1: Chuck and Buck coming up next, though, I must admit it,
1:06:07
Speaker 1: you know, we talked about it early, haven't talked about
1:06:10
Speaker 1: it in a while, but it's the lead of the show.
1:06:13
Speaker 1: It's not every day that I ask for a person's job.
1:06:17
Speaker 1: We'll remind you that next Sports Radio ninety three point
1:06:20
Speaker 1: three KJRFM. I kind of feel like that here today,
1:06:23
Speaker 1: like I've made some big, bold decision you have this
1:06:28
Speaker 1: morning as we cracked the mics on a very busy Monday.
1:06:31
Speaker 1: By the way, I've seen enough. I think the Mariners
1:06:34
Speaker 1: need a new manager, and so I've given my reasons.
1:06:38
Speaker 1: But I asked earlier in the show for some feedback
1:06:41
Speaker 1: that we would get to in this segment and in
1:06:43
Speaker 1: the next about whether or not I'm wrong. I want
1:06:47
Speaker 1: to hear defense frankly for Dan, whether on talkback or
1:06:52
Speaker 1: at four nine four five one on the text line,
1:06:54
Speaker 1: or on our YouTube channel. So I'm going to hand
1:06:57
Speaker 1: it over to Ashley and to you. What do we got?
1:07:00
Speaker 6: All Right, here's our first talk back.
1:07:03
Speaker 9: I don't believe Dan should keep his job, but he's
1:07:05
Speaker 9: not going to get fired, and not because he doesn't
1:07:07
Speaker 9: deserve it, because the Mariners do the Mariners thing always
1:07:10
Speaker 9: and box themselves in. In two weeks, they have this
1:07:14
Speaker 9: fiftieth celebration thing coming up that he's going to be
1:07:17
Speaker 9: a big part of as part of that nineties championship
1:07:21
Speaker 9: quote unquote team, So they can't fire him before it,
1:07:25
Speaker 9: and they can't fire.
1:07:26
Speaker 4: Him after it.
1:07:27
Speaker 9: So best case scenario is they'll fire him in the
1:07:29
Speaker 9: off season. And they're not going to do that either.
1:07:31
Speaker 4: Why.
1:07:33
Speaker 1: I think there's some actually grim truth today.
1:07:35
Speaker 6: I know that's what. Yeah, and he's not the only
1:07:38
Speaker 6: one to bring that up.
1:07:39
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, I think they're probably I mean, you're probably right.
1:07:44
Speaker 1: Would they do it otherwise? I don't know, But I
1:07:47
Speaker 1: guess when they put these master plans together, there was
1:07:51
Speaker 1: the feeling that, man, we got our guy. Yeah, because
1:07:55
Speaker 1: I know how much that they believed in their guy.
1:07:58
Speaker 1: I was even talking about in the offseason. But we
1:08:00
Speaker 1: should at least consider an upgrade at this But I
1:08:03
Speaker 1: think the thing I'm most disappointed about is that I
1:08:06
Speaker 1: haven't seen improvement from him as a manager. And I
1:08:09
Speaker 1: also don't see his team playing as hard for him
1:08:12
Speaker 1: as they did a year ago, which kind of suggests
1:08:15
Speaker 1: that his soft ways of having everybody's back at all
1:08:19
Speaker 1: times may be backfiring, maybe blowing up in his face.
1:08:23
Speaker 1: Maybe now, can he get it going again? Yes? Absolutely,
1:08:26
Speaker 1: he can win the World Series. They can keep him,
1:08:28
Speaker 1: and they can still pull off all of their goals.
1:08:30
Speaker 1: I mean, Barry Switzer won a Super Bowl for goodness sake,
1:08:33
Speaker 1: so it can still happen. But what do we do
1:08:36
Speaker 1: in baseball? What does he do every game? What does
1:08:38
Speaker 1: Jerry do? We play the percentages? I think that there's
1:08:41
Speaker 1: a better manager out there for this team.
1:08:43
Speaker 7: Yeah, and yeah, I don't know if he's going to
1:08:46
Speaker 7: stick around. He's got to make some changes. We'll go
1:08:48
Speaker 7: to a text real quick from the four two five.
1:08:50
Speaker 7: I'm not disagreeing on Dan, But the bigger issue is
1:08:52
Speaker 7: Depoto father of the piggyback and bullpen rules.
1:08:57
Speaker 1: Well number one, everybody has bullpen rules. Number two and
1:09:01
Speaker 1: they're very similar, by the way, very similar. And then
1:09:04
Speaker 1: number two. He admitted himself that the piggyback is different,
1:09:11
Speaker 1: strange situation, unique situation, and they were experimenting with it.
1:09:16
Speaker 1: I knew I was going to get some Jerry's the
1:09:18
Speaker 1: problem response to this. By now you should know I
1:09:22
Speaker 1: don't think that he is. I think the roster is fine.
1:09:26
Speaker 1: And this is not me like defending Jerry. I don't
1:09:29
Speaker 1: even know if I even have a good relationship with
1:09:31
Speaker 1: the Mariners anymore. It might be bad. I'm not sure,
1:09:34
Speaker 1: but I'm certainly just telling you how I see it.
1:09:37
Speaker 1: I think the roster is fine. That's why I have
1:09:39
Speaker 1: such a problem with the manager, because he's not getting
1:09:42
Speaker 1: the most out of the roster. So if I'm going
1:09:44
Speaker 1: to point fingers, I'm certainly not going to point it
1:09:46
Speaker 1: at roster construction. I'm going to point it at the
1:09:49
Speaker 1: manager getting the most out of the roster.
1:09:52
Speaker 7: This text, I feel like it needs to be read
1:09:54
Speaker 7: following the last one in this conversation.
1:09:56
Speaker 6: This is from the two six.
1:09:57
Speaker 7: The only real Mariner's solution is to do the piggyback manager.
1:10:01
Speaker 7: Dan is the manager for the day until the fifth inning,
1:10:04
Speaker 7: then anyone else can be hired for any six and beyond.
1:10:07
Speaker 6: I think that's a great solution. Let's do it.
1:10:12
Speaker 7: Dan only gets to make decisions till inning five.
1:10:15
Speaker 1: There aren't hand There really aren't any decisions to make
1:10:20
Speaker 1: in a baseball game anymore before inning number five, perfect
1:10:23
Speaker 1: line up, starting pitcher, and then you kind of wait
1:10:26
Speaker 1: till the fifth of start actually managing.
1:10:28
Speaker 7: And then you could be the manager six, seven, eight, ninth.
1:10:32
Speaker 1: I'll take it. I'll take I'll take the job, piggyback
1:10:34
Speaker 1: form or otherwise. All right, we'll continue with this. I
1:10:39
Speaker 1: know we got some more talkbacks to get to, and
1:10:42
Speaker 1: I know we got a lot of texts and a
1:10:43
Speaker 1: lot of YouTube, but feedback on this. I do want
1:10:46
Speaker 1: to talk about the home run derby, because I think
1:10:49
Speaker 1: everybody needs to be made aware of the format changes.
1:10:53
Speaker 1: But maybe I'll save that for one last thing. Coming
1:10:56
Speaker 1: up next will continue our conversation about whether or not
1:10:59
Speaker 1: Dan Wilson should remain the Mariners manager. On Sports Radio
1:11:03
Speaker 1: ninety three point three KHARFM. All right, Chucking Ashley with
1:11:18
Speaker 1: you here on this Monday morning. It's turned into a
1:11:20
Speaker 1: rather eventful one for us here this morning. Yeah, in
1:11:24
Speaker 1: our seven o'clock hour we talked about our brand new
1:11:26
Speaker 1: ownership group here with the football team. We started our
1:11:30
Speaker 1: Huskies one series. We got World Cup Final four starting tomorrow.
1:11:35
Speaker 1: We got home run Derby tonight, we got All Star
1:11:37
Speaker 1: Game tomorrow. But I just dropped in on this show.
1:11:42
Speaker 1: I've had enough. I've had enough after Saturday. I don't
1:11:46
Speaker 1: think Dan Wilson's the right man to manage this team
1:11:49
Speaker 1: and manage the big expectations that go with this team.
1:11:53
Speaker 1: I am expecting this team to end up in the
1:11:56
Speaker 1: World Series still at this point, and maybe we don't
1:12:01
Speaker 1: have the right manager for the job. So I have
1:12:04
Speaker 1: said it today officially that I think we should make
1:12:07
Speaker 1: a change at that position, and I've left it to you,
1:12:10
Speaker 1: the listening audience, to weigh in several different ways to
1:12:14
Speaker 1: do so. Talkback. We've got a couple of talkbacks, certainly
1:12:17
Speaker 1: from our website. We've got YouTube, so we've got some
1:12:20
Speaker 1: people communicating via YouTube. We've still got the old text
1:12:23
Speaker 1: line at four nine four five one, and I say
1:12:27
Speaker 1: you know, we can just use old school radio phone
1:12:29
Speaker 1: lines as well two O six two eight six ninety
1:12:32
Speaker 1: five ninety five if you want to weigh in as well.
1:12:34
Speaker 1: I have been asking for people to defend him because
1:12:38
Speaker 1: I want to make sure that that avenue has opened
1:12:41
Speaker 1: up to have this conversation, an adult conversation about this.
1:12:45
Speaker 1: This isn't about nanny nanny boo boo, or this isn't
1:12:49
Speaker 1: about h You know, we have to fire somebody after
1:12:53
Speaker 1: every single loss. That's not the kind of host that
1:12:56
Speaker 1: I am. I take this very seriously when I when
1:12:59
Speaker 1: I make these sort of declarations on my radio show,
1:13:03
Speaker 1: and so today I'm making it, and I want feedback,
1:13:07
Speaker 1: and I'd really like to hear from people that don't
1:13:09
Speaker 1: want him to go. I really would, And there are
1:13:11
Speaker 1: various ways to do that. But there you go. Anyway
1:13:15
Speaker 1: you want to communicate with us this morning, I guess
1:13:17
Speaker 1: there are a thousand ways right now. You can even
1:13:19
Speaker 1: apply a drone over and drop a card to me.
1:13:21
Speaker 1: Here you go, All right, what do you got back there?
1:13:23
Speaker 6: All right, we're going to go back to the talk back.
1:13:25
Speaker 10: Okay, Dan Wilson should stay the Seattle Mariners manager for
1:13:29
Speaker 10: one reason and one reason. Only our ownership cares about profit,
1:13:33
Speaker 10: and that's it. They will keep him in his position
1:13:36
Speaker 10: because they can use him like a puppet and as
1:13:39
Speaker 10: long as they keep making money, they don't care about
1:13:42
Speaker 10: anything else.
1:13:44
Speaker 1: H Well, that's not a great reason for keep You're
1:13:48
Speaker 1: saying they will keep it. It doesn't matter how much
1:13:51
Speaker 1: we complain about it.
1:13:53
Speaker 4: Yeah.
1:13:53
Speaker 1: Well, I know it would be really hard for them.
1:13:57
Speaker 1: I know it would be really hard for them to
1:13:59
Speaker 1: move on because they do really treasure him as a Mariner. Yes,
1:14:04
Speaker 1: but that's kind of the risk that you run when
1:14:07
Speaker 1: you do hire a former player who's beloved in the
1:14:13
Speaker 1: eyes of not just the fan base, but within your organization.
1:14:16
Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, you're two years into
1:14:19
Speaker 1: the project and you're like, is any good? Is any
1:14:22
Speaker 1: good at this? Right? I mean, we felt we had
1:14:25
Speaker 1: a World Series team put together this year, and we're
1:14:29
Speaker 1: a game under five hundred right now. And like I said,
1:14:32
Speaker 1: I gave him a C minus a year ago, and
1:14:34
Speaker 1: that's making the playoffs and making it by a large margin.
1:14:39
Speaker 1: I wasn't that impressed with Dan Wilson the manager a
1:14:42
Speaker 1: year ago, so you can imagine where I am here today.
1:14:45
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think there might be some truth to that.
1:14:50
Speaker 1: I don't want to just one hundred percent endorse that
1:14:54
Speaker 1: sentiment that ownership doesn't care enough about winning. I do
1:14:58
Speaker 1: believe they care about winning. I think they do go
1:15:00
Speaker 1: about it in a different way than you would prefer
1:15:03
Speaker 1: that they do, because most fans just want their team
1:15:06
Speaker 1: to spend money, and spend money and spend money. I've
1:15:09
Speaker 1: never defended that argument that some Mariner fans have. I
1:15:14
Speaker 1: think that they've done a fine job of putting together
1:15:18
Speaker 1: a sustainably good, winning product, and I think in the
1:15:22
Speaker 1: last year and a half they've made moves, including Lasher's
1:15:25
Speaker 1: trading deadline, that are championship caliber moves. And I think
1:15:30
Speaker 1: this off season was a good off season that puts
1:15:34
Speaker 1: this team in position to win it all this year.
1:15:37
Speaker 1: But do you have the manager that presses the right buttons,
1:15:40
Speaker 1: pulls the right strings that I'm not sure?
1:15:43
Speaker 7: Two six says they can't fire him, but they can
1:15:45
Speaker 7: move him into a different role within the organization, couldn't they.
1:15:50
Speaker 1: I don't know if he'd accept that. Yeah, I don't know.
1:15:53
Speaker 1: I don't know if he would like that. I think
1:15:56
Speaker 1: they could try, certainly, But no, I think there was
1:16:01
Speaker 1: a lot that went into hiring him in the first place.
1:16:04
Speaker 1: You know, I mean think about Scott's service was fired
1:16:08
Speaker 1: in August. I think it was August twenty second. I
1:16:12
Speaker 1: remember when Scott's service was fired. So think about how
1:16:15
Speaker 1: long into that season and then when they made the
1:16:20
Speaker 1: change we did start playing better and almost track the
1:16:24
Speaker 1: thing down. Didn't have enough time. Number one, there's a good,
1:16:30
Speaker 1: good example of don't wait too long, especially with this team.
1:16:35
Speaker 1: This team's much better than that team was in twenty
1:16:37
Speaker 1: twenty four, and so number one, don't wait too long
1:16:44
Speaker 1: to make that move, give yourself time to get things together.
1:16:49
Speaker 1: And then number two, obviously they do take it very seriously.
1:16:54
Speaker 1: You know we are we're committed to Scott's service and
1:16:57
Speaker 1: that at some point the writing was on the wall.
1:17:00
Speaker 1: I think maybe the riding has just gotten on the
1:17:02
Speaker 1: wall sooner than any of them expected to be here.
1:17:07
Speaker 6: Yeah, I hear what you're saying. Let's go back to
1:17:09
Speaker 6: the Talkbackay, you guys.
1:17:11
Speaker 11: Asked what Dan Wilson does well, and the answer is
1:17:16
Speaker 11: he might give excellent foot rubs to Jerry Depoto. Maybe
1:17:21
Speaker 11: he makes an excellent charcootery board with some spicy hand
1:17:25
Speaker 11: and some good cheese selections. Maybe Dan is an excellent
1:17:30
Speaker 11: wine pairing with the cheese. But he's not good at
1:17:33
Speaker 11: managing baseball. He's not good at managing the locker room.
1:17:37
Speaker 11: He's not good at anything baseball wise.
1:17:39
Speaker 1: Wow, I won't go that far.
1:17:42
Speaker 6: No, but I did like that. Maybe he's really good
1:17:44
Speaker 6: at charcooterie boards. You know, that's a great talent.
1:17:47
Speaker 1: Let's not undersell that. That's a really important thing.
1:17:51
Speaker 7: When you bring a charcootery board to a party, everyone
1:17:53
Speaker 7: goes flocks towards it.
1:17:54
Speaker 6: Oh, and it's a good one.
1:17:56
Speaker 1: I just saw one yesterday as I was walking by,
1:17:58
Speaker 1: and I had swore I wasn't gonna drink yesterday, and
1:18:00
Speaker 1: I almost turned around and just started eating off the
1:18:03
Speaker 1: guy's board. So let's not let's not underestimate a good.
1:18:08
Speaker 6: Shot that saying.
1:18:10
Speaker 1: Here is what I have said about Dan in the past,
1:18:16
Speaker 1: and these are things that we aren't privy to. I
1:18:20
Speaker 1: think that Dan Wilson really does have the respect of
1:18:25
Speaker 1: the players on the team Scott by the end, and
1:18:29
Speaker 1: really for the last few years he had a little
1:18:31
Speaker 1: bit of a divided locker room. I mean, he had
1:18:33
Speaker 1: his guys that he loved, Gino and Robbie Ray, And
1:18:37
Speaker 1: I mean he had his select group of guys that
1:18:40
Speaker 1: he loved, and then there were a bunch of guys
1:18:43
Speaker 1: in the middle, and then there were some guys he
1:18:45
Speaker 1: didn't like very much and they didn't like him. I
1:18:47
Speaker 1: think almost everybody on this team likes Dan Wilson. And
1:18:53
Speaker 1: as I've said numerous times in the past, like I said,
1:18:56
Speaker 1: managers manage personalities, and Dan wins a lot of credit
1:19:01
Speaker 1: with the players by his horrible press conferences. He's never ever,
1:19:08
Speaker 1: ever addressing anything critical about his own team. He always
1:19:13
Speaker 1: has his players backs, and I would imagine that's the
1:19:16
Speaker 1: way Dan wanted to be treated when he was a player,
1:19:18
Speaker 1: and he's never forgotten that. And so there is an
1:19:21
Speaker 1: element to Hey, when your players love you, that can
1:19:27
Speaker 1: go a long way when they believe, man, we really
1:19:31
Speaker 1: got a manager who has our backs and Dan Wilson.
1:19:35
Speaker 1: But has it slid too far the other way? Are
1:19:38
Speaker 1: they now taking him for granted? There are way too
1:19:41
Speaker 1: many episodes of a lack of focus sometimes it looks
1:19:44
Speaker 1: like lack of effort that have occurred. And certainly, and
1:19:48
Speaker 1: this is indisputable, we're not playing as well as our
1:19:51
Speaker 1: talent suggests that we should be playing, which is the
1:19:54
Speaker 1: ultimate judge of a manager. He's not getting the most
1:19:58
Speaker 1: out of his talent, there is no question about that.
1:20:02
Speaker 1: And so you do wonder if maybe that softness has
1:20:08
Speaker 1: caught up to him, because I do think players need
1:20:12
Speaker 1: to get called out. I think human beings need to
1:20:14
Speaker 1: need to get talk show hosts need to get called out.
1:20:17
Speaker 1: And sometimes when you get called out and you know, yep,
1:20:20
Speaker 1: I'm guilty of that. You got me, you will change
1:20:24
Speaker 1: the pattern of behavior that we can't we have no
1:20:28
Speaker 1: knowledge of. None of us can say it because we're
1:20:32
Speaker 1: not behind the scenes. Maybe there are several meetings, maybe
1:20:36
Speaker 1: he does call them out behind the scenes, but it
1:20:39
Speaker 1: doesn't feel like his team plays all out for him.
1:20:44
Speaker 1: And if you're going to have that approach, if I'm
1:20:47
Speaker 1: gonna point that out as one of the attributes to
1:20:50
Speaker 1: you as a baseball man and a baseball manager, then
1:20:54
Speaker 1: by god, if you're going to approach it that way,
1:20:57
Speaker 1: you better get maximum effort. They better ball out for you.
1:21:01
Speaker 1: And I don't I think we can all agree that's
1:21:03
Speaker 1: not happened. No, I would in the first half of
1:21:05
Speaker 1: the season, and it has been particularly noticeable in the
1:21:09
Speaker 1: last month. Has it not.
1:21:10
Speaker 6: Actually, absolutely yes, it has.
1:21:12
Speaker 7: And I think you bringing up the point about what
1:21:14
Speaker 7: happened in Tampa on Saturday and them all sitting there
1:21:17
Speaker 7: staring out like they've just lost, like their season had
1:21:21
Speaker 7: just ended, says a lot because clearly they the team themselves,
1:21:27
Speaker 7: the players themselves, they know they're not performing.
1:21:30
Speaker 6: They know that.
1:21:31
Speaker 7: I mean, yeah, Dan is not the one on the
1:21:33
Speaker 7: field that is hitting and pitching and making defensive plays.
1:21:37
Speaker 6: We know that. The players know they're not performing.
1:21:39
Speaker 7: But it seems odd to me that at this point
1:21:42
Speaker 7: in the season they're looking so forlorn and lost and
1:21:46
Speaker 7: like they don't have any direction.
1:21:48
Speaker 1: Something happened after that. Yeah, there's no way that something
1:21:52
Speaker 1: didn't happen after that game. And I don't know if
1:21:54
Speaker 1: it was player led, manager led, coaches led, owner led,
1:21:58
Speaker 1: maybe the owner, but you're right, it was a group,
1:22:02
Speaker 1: and Cal is the one that stands out the most
1:22:04
Speaker 1: that were looking forlorn. And look, Cal's wearing a lot
1:22:07
Speaker 1: of this. Cal has to wear a lot of weight
1:22:10
Speaker 1: for this team's disappointing first half. He was our best
1:22:13
Speaker 1: player by one thousand miles a year ago, and he's
1:22:18
Speaker 1: been bad this year. I mean, there's really no other
1:22:21
Speaker 1: way around it. He's got a one sixty nine batting
1:22:24
Speaker 1: average at the All Star break with fewer than ten
1:22:27
Speaker 1: home runs this season. Now, he's been very good defensively,
1:22:30
Speaker 1: that's for sure, and the pitchers swear by him and
1:22:33
Speaker 1: love him, and he's still a leader. But you could
1:22:35
Speaker 1: see it in his face. I mean, he wore that
1:22:38
Speaker 1: loss as heavy as any regular season loss he's ever suffered.
1:22:42
Speaker 1: So something happened afterwards. Something I don't know if it's
1:22:46
Speaker 1: a closed door meeting. I don't even know if those
1:22:48
Speaker 1: things work or not. But some sort of we got
1:22:52
Speaker 1: to wake up moment occurred Saturday. I don't have any
1:22:55
Speaker 1: doubt about it. Problem is you win on Sunday and
1:22:58
Speaker 1: now you have five days to think about it.
1:23:00
Speaker 7: M hm yeah, I mean, yeah, nice to end the
1:23:02
Speaker 7: season on a positive note with a win, but you
1:23:04
Speaker 7: can't that one win doesn't erase the five losses in
1:23:06
Speaker 7: six games.
1:23:07
Speaker 1: Yeah, so there's dissatisfaction, as there should be, and the
1:23:11
Speaker 1: entire roster. Now, whether or not they're pointing the fingers
1:23:14
Speaker 1: that Dan, that's probably not the case. I hope the
1:23:17
Speaker 1: players are pointing the fingers at themselves.
1:23:19
Speaker 6: I would hope so too, And I think that a
1:23:21
Speaker 6: lot of them.
1:23:22
Speaker 7: I mean, I think that's why Cal stood out to
1:23:24
Speaker 7: you in that moment, because he there's no way. Cal's like, oh,
1:23:27
Speaker 7: I know, my defense is enough.
1:23:29
Speaker 6: I'm doing great, right.
1:23:30
Speaker 7: I mean, we know how competitive he is and how
1:23:33
Speaker 7: driven he is, and how much he wants to perform
1:23:36
Speaker 7: for his teammates, for the organization, for the city, for
1:23:40
Speaker 7: the fans. I mean, he wants that more than anyone
1:23:43
Speaker 7: on that team.
1:23:43
Speaker 1: But we are about one hundred games into this thing.
1:23:45
Speaker 1: It is no longer a short sample size. Fortunately, the
1:23:48
Speaker 1: rest of the American League has cooperated. The American League
1:23:51
Speaker 1: West is cooperated, and there's no big giant hill to climb.
1:23:54
Speaker 1: I mean, you got sixty plus game, sixty five plus
1:23:57
Speaker 1: games to go and a game and a half deficit
1:24:00
Speaker 1: to overcome. If the season ended today, we're a wildcard teams.
1:24:05
Speaker 1: If the season ended today, we're still in the playoffs.
1:24:08
Speaker 1: That's that's how much the American League has cooperated for
1:24:13
Speaker 1: the Mariners this year. But obviously we think this is
1:24:16
Speaker 1: a much better team. They cannot get on any extended
1:24:20
Speaker 1: kind of role. Just when you think they're in a groove,
1:24:23
Speaker 1: they'll show up the next day and then start playing
1:24:25
Speaker 1: the worst baseball that you could imagine them playing, and
1:24:28
Speaker 1: then that spans an entire road trip like it did
1:24:32
Speaker 1: in Florida. And again, yes, it's on the players. We're
1:24:38
Speaker 1: not playing well. It's on the players, But it is
1:24:40
Speaker 1: the manager's job to maximize the talent on his team.
1:24:45
Speaker 1: And if the team looks lackluster for over a month,
1:24:51
Speaker 1: then there's something wrong with the leadership that they're being given.
1:24:54
Speaker 6: Yeah, I would agree absolutely.
1:24:55
Speaker 7: From the four to two five they said, I really
1:24:57
Speaker 7: wanted Dan to work, but it's become very obvious that
1:24:59
Speaker 7: he needs to go. The team has been broken all season.
1:25:02
Speaker 7: I'm sick of seeing lifeless games, dumb errors, little league mistakes.
1:25:05
Speaker 7: The fact that they're under five hundred at the All
1:25:07
Speaker 7: Star break is completely unacceptable.
1:25:09
Speaker 1: You know. And I will say this too, And I
1:25:12
Speaker 1: think this is where thing. When a team's failing and
1:25:14
Speaker 1: not playing well, it automatically looks like they don't have
1:25:18
Speaker 1: any energy. I mean, when you're not excited or excitable, right,
1:25:23
Speaker 1: it automatically looks like you're you don't care. Yeah, and
1:25:28
Speaker 1: it probably is that you care a little bit too
1:25:31
Speaker 1: much and you're almost depressed by how poorly you're playing
1:25:34
Speaker 1: individually and how you're wanting somebody else to pick you
1:25:38
Speaker 1: up and then they're incapable of doing it. So I
1:25:41
Speaker 1: do believe that some of that that a lot of
1:25:44
Speaker 1: people are pointing out about, like they don't even try hard,
1:25:47
Speaker 1: they don't play, or they don't care. That couldn't be
1:25:50
Speaker 1: further from the truth.
1:25:51
Speaker 6: Right.
1:25:51
Speaker 1: They care, they want, they have desire, they want to win.
1:25:56
Speaker 1: They want to win for you, they want to win
1:25:58
Speaker 1: for each other. They've gotten close. There's no way they
1:26:02
Speaker 1: want to backslide from where they were at the end
1:26:04
Speaker 1: of last season. They do care, they do want this,
1:26:08
Speaker 1: but they clearly have not gotten to the point where
1:26:11
Speaker 1: they're playing well collectively for stretches of time, and I
1:26:18
Speaker 1: think that it has weighed on them. And so that's
1:26:21
Speaker 1: to me, it's a lot less about do they care,
1:26:26
Speaker 1: and it's a lot more about are they focused? And
1:26:30
Speaker 1: I was asked about this from Dick and Hugh the
1:26:32
Speaker 1: other day, And if this is just one time Josh
1:26:36
Speaker 1: Naylor bobbling a ball and not getting it to call
1:26:39
Speaker 1: Emerson on time to turn the double play, and then
1:26:42
Speaker 1: you don't think anything of it, right, But there is
1:26:44
Speaker 1: a pattern of behavior with Josh. I mean, sometimes he
1:26:48
Speaker 1: looks like he's more interested in looking cool than making
1:26:51
Speaker 1: the right play. Obviously, Randy A. Rose Arena is obsessed
1:26:56
Speaker 1: with looking cool and not necessarily about making the right
1:27:01
Speaker 1: play at the right time. And so we've had lackluster
1:27:06
Speaker 1: decisions on the bass pads, we've had lackluster decisions in
1:27:10
Speaker 1: the count we've had all. You know, it looks it
1:27:18
Speaker 1: looks like it's a bad effort. I don't think effort
1:27:22
Speaker 1: is the problem, but I do think focus has been
1:27:25
Speaker 1: the problem. And that guess us back to what the
1:27:28
Speaker 1: conversation is about, and it's about Dan Wilson, and I
1:27:31
Speaker 1: don't want to see my team not having focus. No,
1:27:34
Speaker 1: my team better be ready to play. Not every day
1:27:38
Speaker 1: over one hundred and sixty two games six months. You're
1:27:40
Speaker 1: gonna have a stinker or five, but not for five
1:27:45
Speaker 1: straight games on the road. I would agree that's unacceptable.
1:27:48
Speaker 7: Yeah, from the five on nine, people are out of
1:27:50
Speaker 7: their minds if they think the reason the Mariners are
1:27:52
Speaker 7: performing the way they are performing is because of the manager.
1:27:56
Speaker 7: These are professional athletes that can't put the ball in play,
1:27:58
Speaker 7: that makes stupid but base errors and continually leave runners
1:28:02
Speaker 7: stranded on base.
1:28:05
Speaker 1: Well, I don't think they're out of their minds. I
1:28:07
Speaker 1: don't think you're the only sane person listening right now.
1:28:10
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm all for an argument, and I'm all
1:28:14
Speaker 1: for somebody telling me it's on the players. Dan's fine,
1:28:18
Speaker 1: that's a perfectly reasonable explanation. But I don't think that
1:28:22
Speaker 1: anyone right now on this radio show, or anyone that's
1:28:28
Speaker 1: responded to us, because not by the way, ninety percent
1:28:30
Speaker 1: of the people responding are in agreement with my take
1:28:35
Speaker 1: this morning and with Ashley's take this morning. I don't
1:28:39
Speaker 1: think that you can say that we are out of
1:28:41
Speaker 1: our minds for feeling like the manager is not getting
1:28:45
Speaker 1: the job done.
1:28:46
Speaker 6: We're not crazy for that.
1:28:47
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you could. You can perfectly have the
1:28:51
Speaker 1: opinion Dan's fine, players just got to play better. I
1:28:55
Speaker 1: can live with that. I can live with that. But
1:28:57
Speaker 1: I also believe that this is a that is all
1:29:01
Speaker 1: about trying to find out the angle that gives us
1:29:04
Speaker 1: an advantage to win that pitch, to win that at bat,
1:29:07
Speaker 1: to win that situation, to win that inning, to win
1:29:10
Speaker 1: that game, and to win that season, to win that series,
1:29:14
Speaker 1: to win the season. And I have just gotten to
1:29:18
Speaker 1: the point after watching this for two years from him
1:29:22
Speaker 1: where I don't think he gives you that edge playing
1:29:26
Speaker 1: the percentages. I don't think he's good enough at the
1:29:31
Speaker 1: few decisions a manager makes today, and then obviously the
1:29:36
Speaker 1: motivation required to get the most out of your players.
1:29:40
Speaker 1: Those are the three things, and I think he's failing
1:29:42
Speaker 1: at all three of those things this season, and he
1:29:45
Speaker 1: doesn't seem to be getting any better. I don't think
1:29:47
Speaker 1: he gives you those edges. And that's why we've come
1:29:51
Speaker 1: to this Monday morning here on KJR. This is why
1:29:55
Speaker 1: I make my declaration. I've been thinking about it for
1:29:58
Speaker 1: a while.
1:29:58
Speaker 6: Yeah, you didn't come about this lately.
1:30:00
Speaker 7: No. Last one though from the four two five, Well,
1:30:02
Speaker 7: he did take us the furthest we've ever gone last year. Also,
1:30:06
Speaker 7: you love Kevin Seitzer and Perry Hill so much, and
1:30:08
Speaker 7: apparently they are the best of the best. Yet that's
1:30:11
Speaker 7: where we're really struggling this year. So do you want
1:30:13
Speaker 7: to get rid of them too or not?
1:30:16
Speaker 1: No? No, I don't. No, I don't think Kevin sites
1:30:24
Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever said he's the best of
1:30:25
Speaker 1: the best. I do like him, I do like him
1:30:27
Speaker 1: a lot, but I don't think I'm blowing up the
1:30:31
Speaker 1: entire coaching staff. I said this, this is what I
1:30:34
Speaker 1: would do. This, and this really is unfair to Danny
1:30:37
Speaker 1: Farquhar and to Manny Acta, but I would get rid
1:30:41
Speaker 1: of Wilson, Acta and Farquhar and I would replace them
1:30:45
Speaker 1: with Alex Korra, Joey Korra, and Jason Veritek. They're all
1:30:50
Speaker 1: available right now. They weren't earlier this year. They're all
1:30:53
Speaker 1: off there given major league teams. That's what I would do. Yeah,
1:30:57
Speaker 1: that's those are the changes that I would make. Alex
1:31:00
Speaker 1: the manager, Joey's bench coach, and Jason Veritec to fill
1:31:04
Speaker 1: that void that for the pitchers and for the catchers
1:31:10
Speaker 1: that Dan fills.
1:31:11
Speaker 6: I don't think that's a bad idea.
1:31:12
Speaker 1: That's that's my recipe. So I don't Again, I didn't
1:31:15
Speaker 1: come across this just half assed here today. I gave
1:31:18
Speaker 1: given this a lot of thought over the last few months.
1:31:21
Speaker 1: All Right, thank you very much for the feedback. I
1:31:23
Speaker 1: appreciate it. I don't know we solved anything, but at
1:31:26
Speaker 1: least we had a good, nice conversation there about it.
1:31:29
Speaker 1: Coming up next, I'm not done with the Mariners. I
1:31:31
Speaker 1: just want to talk about things other than Dan ABC's
1:31:34
Speaker 1: of the Ems come your way on Sports Radio ninety
1:31:36
Speaker 1: three point three KJRFM.
1:31:38
Speaker 6: I'm excited to find out, are you yeah?
1:31:40
Speaker 1: Always? That's always good to hear. And we get started
1:31:43
Speaker 1: at the beginning of the alphabet today and this is
1:31:46
Speaker 1: this works out really well because A is for a
1:31:48
Speaker 1: ros Arena the All Star He'll be the only Mariner.
1:31:52
Speaker 1: Even with all these changes, we still ended up with
1:31:54
Speaker 1: just one Mariner on the All Star roster. Maybe something
1:31:59
Speaker 1: else about us, hell, maybe something else happens today. We'll see,
1:32:03
Speaker 1: But Randy, a Rose Arena will play in the game.
1:32:05
Speaker 1: On Tuesday. We'll have no participate participant in the home
1:32:09
Speaker 1: run derby here tonight. We sort of dominated the headlines
1:32:12
Speaker 1: with the futures game. I'll say that on Saturday, and
1:32:15
Speaker 1: it sounds like we had a good draft. Ex see
1:32:17
Speaker 1: me Sunday. It sounds like we had a good draft
1:32:19
Speaker 1: on Saturday as well. A lot of the analysts given
1:32:23
Speaker 1: pretty good grades on that front. But let's talk about
1:32:26
Speaker 1: a Rose Arena. From this standpoint, I realized that he
1:32:30
Speaker 1: was the guy firing fan wanted to fire after Saturday's
1:32:34
Speaker 1: lackluster effort, and it did look bad. It did look
1:32:39
Speaker 1: really bad. Can I offer a little bit of defense
1:32:41
Speaker 1: for him, and just a little bit, because, believe me,
1:32:45
Speaker 1: if you've been listening to this show at any consistency
1:32:48
Speaker 1: at all, you know how much he frustrates the hell
1:32:51
Speaker 1: out of me as a player. Yes, I mean he
1:32:54
Speaker 1: is about as frustrating a player to have on your
1:32:56
Speaker 1: roster as you could have. We know how good he is,
1:32:59
Speaker 1: but there are some decisions and there are moments where
1:33:03
Speaker 1: it just does not look like he's invested in team
1:33:06
Speaker 1: baseball whatsoever. So I've had a mountain of problems with him,
1:33:10
Speaker 1: and I had a mountain and I had a problem
1:33:12
Speaker 1: with what he did on Saturday, not giving any effort
1:33:15
Speaker 1: down the line, and obviously the Rock did as well.
1:33:18
Speaker 1: I will just say this, he's coming off a hamstring.
1:33:22
Speaker 1: I can promise you he has been given the orders
1:33:26
Speaker 1: by coaches and staff. Hey, win in doubt, let it go.
1:33:31
Speaker 1: We don't want you running into walls, we don't want
1:33:34
Speaker 1: you sliding into stands, we don't want you to jumping.
1:33:38
Speaker 1: Let's make sure that that heals first. As staff to
1:33:42
Speaker 1: tell Lenny Dykster that, because he would just crash face
1:33:45
Speaker 1: first into walls all the time, Like, hey, you've turned
1:33:47
Speaker 1: into a really important player for us. We needed to
1:33:50
Speaker 1: see a little less of that going forward. And so
1:33:54
Speaker 1: you tell Randy that, does anybody really think he's going
1:33:58
Speaker 1: to understand how to play that problem properly? Do you
1:34:02
Speaker 1: really think that he is on from pitch to pitch
1:34:04
Speaker 1: gonna understand what he should go for and what he
1:34:07
Speaker 1: shouldn't go for when somebody tells him, hey, let's just
1:34:12
Speaker 1: not do anything crazy out there. Maybe have to let
1:34:14
Speaker 1: a ball go every once in a while. And I
1:34:17
Speaker 1: bet you that was one of those, like, yeah, there's
1:34:19
Speaker 1: a lot of obstacles over there, it looks tricky. I'm
1:34:22
Speaker 1: just gonna let that one drop. I can's not gonna
1:34:24
Speaker 1: be fair. It's not gonna be fair. It's going to
1:34:26
Speaker 1: be a fair ball, and he's going to get a
1:34:28
Speaker 1: double out of it.
1:34:29
Speaker 7: Right, And that is true. It's not a fair ball.
1:34:30
Speaker 7: It would still but it would still be an out.
1:34:32
Speaker 7: And I do think I would expect Randy to understand
1:34:37
Speaker 7: what is something he should and shouldn't go after, but
1:34:39
Speaker 7: he doesn't.
1:34:40
Speaker 1: And I'm going to tell you, I'm going to give
1:34:42
Speaker 1: you an example because last year with him stealing basis,
1:34:46
Speaker 1: we had a catcher who was on pace to hit
1:34:48
Speaker 1: sixty home runs, right, and he was running us out
1:34:52
Speaker 1: of innings with Cal at the plate, and they told
1:34:54
Speaker 1: him like, hey, we got Cal at the plate, Like
1:34:57
Speaker 1: we can't be we can't be stealing. In that moment,
1:34:59
Speaker 1: he's like talking about he didn't understand. He didn't understand
1:35:03
Speaker 1: that we don't want to give up the chance for
1:35:06
Speaker 1: a two run homer from a guy that's hitting a
1:35:07
Speaker 1: home run every tenant bats, just to move up a
1:35:10
Speaker 1: base with his power, we're gonna hit And Randy did
1:35:14
Speaker 1: not understand. He was flum mixed by it. Spent the
1:35:17
Speaker 1: old season like when am I supposed to steal?
1:35:19
Speaker 2: What?
1:35:19
Speaker 1: Am I not supposed to steal? I don't think he
1:35:23
Speaker 1: is that player. I think he struggles with a lot
1:35:26
Speaker 1: of that stuff because I think he spent his entire
1:35:28
Speaker 1: life being a showman and really doesn't understand team baseball.
1:35:33
Speaker 1: I one hundred percent believe that, and I've been saying
1:35:36
Speaker 1: it for two years. And I have a problem with
1:35:39
Speaker 1: what he did on Saturday, too, But to me, it
1:35:42
Speaker 1: goes right in line with the problems Randy or Rose
1:35:46
Speaker 1: Arena creates for his teammates all the time, and that
1:35:49
Speaker 1: is he doesn't get it when somebody says, hey, let's
1:35:54
Speaker 1: not crash into walls. Sometimes we got to let one go.
1:35:57
Speaker 1: I'm thinking I bet you he was thinking on that play,
1:36:01
Speaker 1: not that I don't care if I don't get to it,
1:36:03
Speaker 1: that he thought he was doing a smart thing letting
1:36:06
Speaker 1: that drop. After all, he was in the lineup the
1:36:08
Speaker 1: very next day. Yeah, it's not like they punished him.
1:36:11
Speaker 1: They didn't then send him down on the lineup. They
1:36:12
Speaker 1: didn't pull him off the field. He was in the
1:36:14
Speaker 1: lineup the very next day. So Castile looked at it
1:36:18
Speaker 1: like you should have had that. We all looked at
1:36:20
Speaker 1: it like you should have had that. But I'll bet you,
1:36:23
Speaker 1: I'll bet you Randy's explanation was, you told me not
1:36:27
Speaker 1: to crash into walls. I thought that was close to
1:36:30
Speaker 1: the wall. That felt like to me one I should
1:36:32
Speaker 1: let go because you want me to let those go.
1:36:35
Speaker 1: I'll bet you that's what happened.
1:36:38
Speaker 7: Well, maybe he just needs a better to be a
1:36:40
Speaker 7: better judge then, because yeah, it looked like that was
1:36:42
Speaker 7: a pretty routine thing.
1:36:44
Speaker 4: I agree.
1:36:44
Speaker 1: I don't disagree with that. I understand why people were angry.
1:36:48
Speaker 1: It's like I said, I'm not defending him. I'm just
1:36:50
Speaker 1: providing maybe a different, that's fair perspective on it. B
1:36:55
Speaker 1: as for battle, with all of the times in the
1:36:58
Speaker 1: last five days that we've wondered, do these guys really
1:37:01
Speaker 1: care about this? I would like to point out Jose
1:37:05
Speaker 1: Ferrer's at bat against Junior Camonaro yesterday, because that game
1:37:10
Speaker 1: was still in doubt, they had two guys on base,
1:37:14
Speaker 1: Farrera was asked to go. He gads more than an
1:37:17
Speaker 1: inning he had to go ale and a third.
1:37:22
Speaker 6: Oh my gosh, I'm.
1:37:24
Speaker 1: With Emerson leaving the game, and so he was really
1:37:29
Speaker 1: like you could tell he was like trying to struggle
1:37:32
Speaker 1: to get through it. And when you're trying to struggle
1:37:34
Speaker 1: to get through that inning and you have to face
1:37:36
Speaker 1: the hottest power hitter in the sport right now, who
1:37:39
Speaker 1: could easily erase all the goodwill that you've done offensively
1:37:42
Speaker 1: to that point in the game, and he's reaching back
1:37:45
Speaker 1: throwing one a one. I mean, he's throwing the kitchen sink,
1:37:49
Speaker 1: and Camonaro just keeps fouling him off and foiling him
1:37:52
Speaker 1: off and foiling them off and staying alive, and you know,
1:37:55
Speaker 1: he's just waiting for that one mistake that he's going
1:37:57
Speaker 1: to drive into the seats. And the more he gets
1:38:00
Speaker 1: the look at Ferrer's pitches, the more he's gonna feel
1:38:03
Speaker 1: good about getting that pitch. And Farrer just battled and
1:38:07
Speaker 1: battled and won the battle, got him on a called
1:38:10
Speaker 1: third strike. I thought that was awesome baseball right there,
1:38:13
Speaker 1: awesome theater. And so for all of the finger pointing
1:38:17
Speaker 1: and this team doesn't care, know this, Jose Ferrer cared.
1:38:22
Speaker 1: He cares in that moment, and that was one hell
1:38:25
Speaker 1: of a battle in it. You know, he loses that battle,
1:38:29
Speaker 1: and maybe we don't win a game the entire road trip. Yeah,
1:38:33
Speaker 1: maybe that game goes in a completely different direction. So
1:38:35
Speaker 1: I wanted to give him some credit there. See us
1:38:37
Speaker 1: for Castillo. A lot of rumors right now about Luis
1:38:41
Speaker 1: Castillo and whether or not he's the if he's being
1:38:44
Speaker 1: shopped here at the trading deadline. I said this Friday,
1:38:49
Speaker 1: talked about this. He's gonna be really difficult to trade.
1:38:54
Speaker 1: He's thirty three years old, he's got a five ERA,
1:38:57
Speaker 1: and he makes twenty four million dollars a year and
1:39:00
Speaker 1: he makes another twenty four again next year. So he's
1:39:03
Speaker 1: not going to be easy to trade. And so if
1:39:07
Speaker 1: you don't want to take my word for it. Just
1:39:09
Speaker 1: this morning, CBS Sports reported the disappointing Mariners their words,
1:39:14
Speaker 1: not mine, are still trying to find their footing in
1:39:16
Speaker 1: the lackluster Al West, and now this they may be
1:39:18
Speaker 1: looking to trade from their rotation depth, specifically Luis Castillo,
1:39:24
Speaker 1: the thirty three year old uh is owde more than
1:39:28
Speaker 1: twenty four million dollars. Blah blah blah. I just told
1:39:30
Speaker 1: you all that stuff Castillo. In other words, Castillo probably
1:39:33
Speaker 1: isn't going to net much of a return on the market.
1:39:37
Speaker 1: That's the point. Like, if you were able to trade him.
1:39:42
Speaker 1: I went through some scenarios last Friday. You're going to
1:39:46
Speaker 1: be saying you're gonna pull like an NBA trade. You're
1:39:50
Speaker 1: gonna go to the Giants and say, you take this
1:39:52
Speaker 1: contract and we'll take one of you. We'll take a
1:39:55
Speaker 1: contract that's even worse to make us a little bit better,
1:40:00
Speaker 1: like a Matt Chapman type. But if you're just trading
1:40:04
Speaker 1: him up at the deadline, you're gonna get nothing in return. No,
1:40:11
Speaker 1: you're gonna trade him, You're gonna move. You're gonna have
1:40:13
Speaker 1: to trade him as a seller to a buyer, somebody
1:40:17
Speaker 1: that wants to be able to win this year, and
1:40:21
Speaker 1: maybe a veteran starting pitcher short also somebody that has
1:40:26
Speaker 1: a huge payroll as well. So that's that's gonna limit
1:40:29
Speaker 1: your market there. I suppose that the other option here,
1:40:34
Speaker 1: and this is what I thought about just this morning,
1:40:38
Speaker 1: is maybe it's not Luis Castillo. Maybe it is one
1:40:41
Speaker 1: of the five guys, the five younger guys, And maybe
1:40:45
Speaker 1: when we're talking about the Mariners are interested in slipping
1:40:50
Speaker 1: a starter for a back of the bullpen reliever. Nobody
1:40:56
Speaker 1: feels good, right, There's no way I'm gonna trade George
1:40:59
Speaker 1: Kirby for bullpen piece, unless would you do it for
1:41:04
Speaker 1: Mason Miller? Would you do it for the game's best closer,
1:41:09
Speaker 1: the unhittable young Mason Miller, who's under contract for a
1:41:13
Speaker 1: few more years. Would you move one of your five
1:41:17
Speaker 1: younger starting pitchers, maybe it's Emerson Hancock, I don't know,
1:41:21
Speaker 1: for the San Diego Padres. If in fact Mason Miller
1:41:24
Speaker 1: is available, does that change it for you? At least
1:41:29
Speaker 1: it at least gets me off of no way, It
1:41:33
Speaker 1: at least has me thinking, well, maybe maybe maybe I
1:41:37
Speaker 1: would do that after all. So something something to think
1:41:41
Speaker 1: about out there all right, We'll close out the show
1:41:44
Speaker 1: with one last thing. It's next. Sports Radio ninety three
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