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Top 20 In-Game Mistakes (Part 1) · Pittsburgh Sports Memories

• 0:00
  SPEAKER_03: Hi, everybody.
• 0:01
  SPEAKER_03: Welcome to the Pittsburgh Sports Memories Podcast.
• 0:04
  SPEAKER_03: I am Tim Hannon, and I'm Steve Wirt.
• 0:08
  SPEAKER_03: In this episode, it's actually going to be a two-part episode.
• 0:12
  SPEAKER_03: We're going to cover the top 20 in-game mistakes.
• 0:32
  SPEAKER_03: And and just a little context for this episode.
• 0:35
  SPEAKER_03: So this is in-game mistakes only.
• 0:38
  SPEAKER_03: So this is something that happened on the field or in the arena.
• 0:42
  SPEAKER_03: You know, no Stewart's cutting Johnny United or Penguins making a bad draft pick or whatever.
• 0:49
  SPEAKER_03: Not personnel moves.
• 0:50
  SPEAKER_03: This had to have happened in a game.
• 0:53
  SPEAKER_03: I also tried to limit this to on-the-field mistakes.
• 0:56
  SPEAKER_03: Wanted to stay away from coaching mistakes.
• 0:58
  SPEAKER_03: I feel like coaching mistakes are very subjective.
• 1:01
  SPEAKER_03: So it's really going to be player mistakes.
• 1:04
  SPEAKER_03: So sorry, players.
• 1:06
  SPEAKER_03: And as we go through this, you know, we'll we'll try to look at some of the human side of these mistakes because, you know, we're all we're all humans, we're all flawed.
• 1:14
  SPEAKER_03: None of us are perfect.
• 1:16
  SPEAKER_03: Uh we've all been there, we've all made mistakes, and whether we're multi-million dollar athletes or not, you know, all of us tend to just have our mishaps.
• 1:25
  SPEAKER_03: So we'll kind of try to look at some of the human side of this as well.
• 1:30
  SPEAKER_03: A little fun fact teaser for this list.
• 1:33
  SPEAKER_03: Three of these top 20 moments actually happen in the year 2021, which is the year we're we're recording and releasing this episode.
• 1:42
  SPEAKER_03: So maybe a little bit of recency bias in here, but but let's actually kick off with a recent one.
• 1:50
  SPEAKER_07: I blame COVID.
• 1:52
  SPEAKER_03: So yeah, yeah.
• 1:53
  SPEAKER_03: I mean maybe it just, you know, it was a tough year for people and being uh having all the lockdowns and everything.
• 2:01
  SPEAKER_03: So maybe there's something to it.
• 2:03
  SPEAKER_03: Well, maybe there's something to our the uh to that for our first item on the list, which is this.
• 2:09
  SPEAKER_09: Steelers dead last in the league in rushing.
• 2:15
  SPEAKER_09: And they start with a horrible snap all the way back to the two-yard line, and the Browns bounce it into the end zone where they wind up with a touchdown.
• 2:25
  SPEAKER_09: Of all crazy things, you don't go to the playoffs for 18 years, and that is the way it starts in the first 14 seconds.
• 2:34
  SPEAKER_03: So the Steelers are playing the Browns in the first round of the playoffs.
• 2:39
  SPEAKER_03: It's it's a strange 2020 season for the Steelers.
• 2:42
  SPEAKER_03: They start 11-0, but they drop four of their final five games, as I'm sure everyone remembers again, pretty recent.
• 2:50
  SPEAKER_03: In Cleveland, meanwhile, they're in the playoffs for the first time in nearly two decades.
• 2:54
  SPEAKER_03: And the last two playoff games they were in, they lost to the Steelers.
• 2:57
  SPEAKER_03: That was in 2002 and 1994.
• 3:00
  SPEAKER_03: So I think going into that game, no one's really quite sure what to expect.
• 3:03
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, the Steelers offense had really kind of fallen off of a cliff.
• 3:08
  SPEAKER_03: And so I I one thing I remember about that, that them getting the ball first was okay, really important that the offense comes out clicking.
• 3:16
  SPEAKER_03: You know, don't have to go down and score a touchdown, but at least maybe get a couple first downs.
• 3:21
  SPEAKER_03: Just just do something to kind of get into the flow of the game.
• 3:25
  SPEAKER_03: And sure enough, the very first play from scrimmage, Marquise Pouncey snaps the ball way over Ben Rothesberger's head.
• 3:31
  SPEAKER_03: The Browns recover it in the end zone for a touchdown, and the game just gets away very quickly after that.
• 3:37
  SPEAKER_03: The Browns are up 28-0 by the end of the first quarter, and that's pretty much the end of the night and the end of the season for the Steelers.
• 3:44
  SPEAKER_03: Pouncey was a great center for the Steelers, uh, played for them for over a decade.
• 3:50
  SPEAKER_03: That actually ends up being his his final NFL game.
• 3:53
  SPEAKER_03: He announces his retirement several weeks later.
• 3:56
  SPEAKER_03: Um, kind of a sad way for him to go out, but you know, I I think people always remember him as a great player and and won't really remember him for that one moment.
• 4:06
  SPEAKER_03: And and honestly, it's number 20 on the list because it was a pretty big gaff, and it's just a a crazy way to start an NFL playoff game.
• 4:15
  SPEAKER_03: But I mean, it was the first three seconds of the game.
• 4:17
  SPEAKER_03: The Steelers had ample opportunity to come back from that, and then they couldn't.
• 4:22
  SPEAKER_03: So you you can't really attribute them losing to that play necessarily.
• 4:28
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, it was just like once that happened, you had a bad feeling like this is gonna be a long day for the Steelers.
• 4:36
  SPEAKER_07: And uh, and and it was, it was.
• 4:39
  SPEAKER_07: I mean and then like just to give up all those points after that, like is on the defense, too.
• 4:45
  SPEAKER_07: I mean, Ben threw an interception after that, it really snowballed after that, but that definitely was the little snowball that became the giant snowball that was 28 points.
• 4:56
  SPEAKER_07: But I don't know.
• 4:59
  SPEAKER_07: It's hard to I I wouldn't blame this loss on that bad snap because there's been teams before that have had a bad start to a game and kind of overcome it, but I don't know, 28 to n 28 points and a quarter.
• 5:12
  SPEAKER_07: Wasn't that a record?
• 5:13
  SPEAKER_07: That I think that's an NFL record for the playoffs.
• 5:16
  SPEAKER_03: I think it was, yeah.
• 5:17
  SPEAKER_03: And and to your point, Steve, we did an episode about that forgotten um Charger Steelers playoff game in 1982.
• 5:25
  SPEAKER_03: And remember how that game started where San Diego spotted Pittsburgh a touchdown on the first play of the game, and of course San Diego came back and won that game.
• 5:34
  SPEAKER_03: So to your point, you know, that that making that error at the beginning is not immediate doom, and so again, that's why it's it's only number 20 on the list.
• 5:44
  SPEAKER_03: Number 19 on the list, we're gonna go to uh a Pitt West Virginia game from 2001.
• 5:53
  SPEAKER_05: Hardfall football game between two arch rivals, and they want to throw it in the end zone, and in the world, and that one almost picked off.
• 6:02
  SPEAKER_05: What in the world is that?
• 6:05
  SPEAKER_05: All you have to do is take a knee, but that is the worst call I've ever seen.
• 6:11
  SPEAKER_03: Strong reaction on that one.
• 6:13
  SPEAKER_03: So in 2001, uh expectations are high for the pitch football team.
• 6:18
  SPEAKER_03: They had had a pretty good kind of uh a breakthrough year the year before, but they just have an absolutely disastrous one in five start to the season.
• 6:28
  SPEAKER_03: A lot of people are calling for head coach Walt Harris to be fired, but to his credit, he he turns the ship around, they start stringing together some wins, including a blowout against number 12 Virginia Tech.
• 6:39
  SPEAKER_03: And now at the end of the season, they're actually heading to Morgantown with a chance to qualify for a bowl game, which, you know, at the beginning of the season wouldn't have been would have been underachieving, but after starting one and five, that's a pretty good way to salvage the season.
• 6:54
  SPEAKER_03: WVU is not very good that year.
• 6:56
  SPEAKER_03: This is kind of in between errors for them.
• 6:59
  SPEAKER_03: But it's it's the backyard brawl.
• 7:01
  SPEAKER_03: It's the big rivalry game.
• 7:02
  SPEAKER_03: So you know it's gonna be tough.
• 7:03
  SPEAKER_03: You know it's not gonna be an easy win.
• 7:05
  SPEAKER_03: And it ends up being a pretty good game.
• 7:07
  SPEAKER_03: Pit pulls ahead in the fourth fourth quarter.
• 7:09
  SPEAKER_03: They have a six-point lead and they get the ball back at their own 11-yard line with five minutes left.
• 7:15
  SPEAKER_03: And and they actually take the ball and they drive all the way down the field, they eat up the clock, and they clinch the victory in Morgantown.
• 7:24
  SPEAKER_03: Great win.
• 7:26
  SPEAKER_03: Great way to end the season.
• 7:27
  SPEAKER_03: They're gonna go to a bowl game now.
• 7:29
  SPEAKER_03: Well, they have first down at the WVU four-yard line, and and all that's left to do is to just take a couple knees and let the final seconds tick off.
• 7:39
  SPEAKER_03: Well, quarterback David Priestley walks up to the line of scrimmage and appears to audible and then flings a pass into the corner of the end zone for RJ English, who is the wide receiver.
• 7:50
  SPEAKER_03: And Richard Bryant, who's a defensive back for West Virginia, he steps right in front of the pass and he gets his hands on it, but he's not quite able to pull it in, and it and it kind of deflects off his shoulder pads and harmlessly goes out of bounds.
• 8:07
  SPEAKER_03: And there's literally nothing between Bryant and the end zone.
• 8:10
  SPEAKER_03: If he catches that ball, he goes a hundred yards the other direction for the game-winning touchdown.
• 8:16
  SPEAKER_03: And, you know, this is this is only where it is on the list because he didn't catch that ball, and Pitt ends up winning the game.
• 8:24
  SPEAKER_03: Pitt ends up going to the Tangerine Bowl and beating Phillip Rivers in NC State.
• 8:30
  SPEAKER_03: But boy oh boy, I can't believe that that almost happened, that they threw that pass.
• 8:35
  SPEAKER_03: And you and you can tell from the announcer in that clip, just the re just the just being beside himself.
• 8:41
  SPEAKER_03: Like, why in the world, when all you have to do is take a knee, would you throw a dangerous pass in the end zone?
• 8:48
  SPEAKER_03: It just we we did an episode about all the the horrific ways Pitt has found to lose football games.
• 8:54
  SPEAKER_03: And I feel like Steve, that day it was almost like the universe saying, like, no, like that that's just even for Pitt, that would just be too much.
• 9:03
  SPEAKER_07: It probably would have been for a lot of us.
• 9:06
  SPEAKER_07: Uh I just I remember David Priestley like not being the um sharpest quarterback I've ever watched play.
• 9:14
  SPEAKER_07: Like he always seemed to be some confusion in the huddle, or he would like call a timeout, or like there was always just something like like brainwash, like there was just like not a smooth like move with him sometimes.
• 9:29
  SPEAKER_07: He wasn't a terrible quarterback, and he was a good college quarterback.
• 9:32
  SPEAKER_07: And like I said, they beat NC State and Phillip Rivers a couple weeks later.
• 9:38
  SPEAKER_07: And that I think that's the last time Pitts beat NC State in anything, quite honestly.
• 9:43
  SPEAKER_07: I and almost any sport.
• 9:46
  SPEAKER_07: So I so they got that going for him, but uh yeah.
• 9:50
  SPEAKER_07: Who was it?
• 9:51
  SPEAKER_07: Was Nealon still the coach of West Virginia that year, or had they gone to Richrod yet?
• 9:56
  SPEAKER_03: I I I don't remember.
• 9:57
  SPEAKER_03: I don't think it was either of those guys.
• 9:58
  SPEAKER_03: I think they were in between.
• 10:00
  SPEAKER_03: I think Nealin had retired and Richrod hadn't been hired yet, but don't quote me on that.
• 10:04
  SPEAKER_07: Because Richrod's there the next year in 2001.
• 10:07
  SPEAKER_07: Richrod's definitely there.
• 10:09
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, so maybe he was there at that point.
• 10:11
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 10:11
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, they again they weren't very good, but it was just that was the game.
• 10:15
  SPEAKER_03: Again, it was in it was in Morgantown, not an easy place to win.
• 10:18
  SPEAKER_03: And they and Pitt has the game wrapped up after it was a really hard fought, good victory.
• 10:23
  SPEAKER_03: They'd come all the way back from one and five, and they're gonna go to a bowl game, and that was almost a hundred-yard interception return to lose a bowl game, to lose their biggest rivalry game.
• 10:37
  SPEAKER_03: Wow.
• 10:37
  SPEAKER_03: I I just it had to make the list just because it was that close to the biggest disaster ever.
• 10:43
  SPEAKER_07: Like, even if he would have caught the ball and like fell down, which he would have been down in college, that still would have been a big turnover because then West Virginia, even if like he only he doesn't get the the touchback to the 20, like if he gets the ball at the five-yard line, like West Virginia can start flinging Hail Marys, you know.
• 11:01
  SPEAKER_07: You never know what's gonna happen then.
• 11:03
  SPEAKER_07: So thank goodness he didn't catch it.
• 11:07
  SPEAKER_07: Yes.
• 11:09
  SPEAKER_03: All right, number 18 on our list.
• 11:12
  SPEAKER_03: Let's go to the ice.
• 11:15
  SPEAKER_09: Minor Cowley game.
• 11:17
  SPEAKER_09: Goodbye, it's three in a row.
• 11:20
  SPEAKER_09: Wow.
• 11:20
  SPEAKER_09: And now the five on three is back on for a minute and four seconds.
• 11:26
  SPEAKER_03: So the Penguins are in the second round of the 2016 playoffs against their arch rivals, the Washington Capitals.
• 11:33
  SPEAKER_03: It's a it's a very typical Penguins Capitol series.
• 11:37
  SPEAKER_03: The Penguins have a three-two lead in the series, and they're playing game six at home, and they're clinging to a three to two lead in that game, in the third period of that game, actually, with a chance to end the series, if they can just hang on for eight more minutes, which is hard to do in playoff hockey because, especially when when it's an elimination game, the other team's gonna throw everything at the net.
• 11:59
  SPEAKER_03: So there's this role in the NHL where if you shoot the puck over the board from your own end, then it's an automatic two-minute delay of game penalty.
• 12:08
  SPEAKER_03: And that that penalty used to be subjective.
• 12:10
  SPEAKER_03: At one time, the referee had to determine whether or not you did that on purpose.
• 12:15
  SPEAKER_03: Because the idea is you're in your own end, they're pressuring you, and you're just flinging the puck into the crowd so that uh there's no there's no icing and and it just gets the puck out of danger.
• 12:26
  SPEAKER_03: And so at one point they said, Well, the referee will determine if you did that on purpose or if it just happened by accident.
• 12:32
  SPEAKER_03: Then in like 2005 or so, they changed that role and they said, No, just no matter what happens, if the puck goes into the stands, we're not going to put that on the referee to try to determine intent.
• 12:42
  SPEAKER_03: It's an automatic penalty.
• 12:43
  SPEAKER_03: And it was a good roll, I think, because you know, it it took that pressure off the referees.
• 12:49
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, you know, we we talked about Darius Gasparitas had done that in a key moment in a playoff game where he he took the puck and threw it into the stands with his glove, and they didn't call a penalty because somehow they determined that that wasn't on purpose.
• 13:03
  SPEAKER_03: So it was a good roll.
• 13:05
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, unfortunately, it it doesn't work out well for the penguins that night.
• 13:10
  SPEAKER_03: Uh so Chris Kunitz, he's in his own end, he tries to clear the puck, it goes over the boards.
• 13:15
  SPEAKER_03: It doesn't happen often, but it happens, and now it's a two-minute penalty at a bad time of the game.
• 13:22
  SPEAKER_03: During the ensuing power play, Nick Benino does the same thing.
• 13:25
  SPEAKER_03: So now it's a five-on-three with again the Penguins trying so hard to cling to this one goal lead.
• 13:32
  SPEAKER_03: And and they do really well.
• 13:33
  SPEAKER_03: They actually kill the five-on-three power play, but just as they do that, Ian Cole clears it over the boards, and now there's three delay of game penalties in a row, and the Capitals then score to tie the game.
• 13:46
  SPEAKER_03: And it's just such an unbelievable, unlucky, fluky set of events to save Washington season.
• 13:54
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, you've rarely ever see that that happen, Steve, and and it happened three times in a row.
• 14:01
  SPEAKER_07: Well, um, I don't know what they say.
• 14:03
  SPEAKER_07: Once is an accident, twice is a trend, three is a habit.
• 14:07
  SPEAKER_07: I don't I don't I don't I don't know what to say about that one, but uh I like I like the rule because you can't you shouldn't determine intent, you know.
• 14:17
  SPEAKER_07: You can't you can't be inside someone's head unless I mean I guess Darius Caspary is with his glove.
• 14:22
  SPEAKER_07: I mean that's pretty obvious there.
• 14:25
  SPEAKER_07: But and it's a good rule to have because you just you know just take it out of the refs' hands and you know it adds uh adds more drama to the to the game and it's not a bad thing.
• 14:36
  SPEAKER_07: Um as for uh that's like you said, like it's it's like the penguins buckled down.
• 14:43
  SPEAKER_07: A lot of other teams would have probably crumbled after giving up that goal, but to the penguins credit, boy, they really uh they really kind of like pulled themselves out of the fire there.
• 14:53
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and we were just talking about the Steelers, the 2020 Steelers not being able to to overcome an early mistake, and and that's really what made that that 2016, 2016 team so special was they went into the locker room, they were unfazed going into overtime, and then the guy that ends up scoring the goal to to end the series was Nick Benino, who was one of the three guys who had cleared it over the boards.
• 15:17
  SPEAKER_03: So that that I I think when they won that game, that's when I thought, boy, this team, this team might just win the cup, because that was such a uh a courageous kind of, you know, not not something like that happening and you don't get faced and you still win the game.
• 15:33
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, it's pretty that speaks to the character of your team.
• 15:38
  SPEAKER_03: Alright, so let's go to number 17 on our list.
• 15:44
  SPEAKER_06: Unfortunately for the Steelers, Dave Smith, weather was not an excuse for a premature celebration on another October night against Kansas City.
• 15:56
  SPEAKER_03: In 1971, the Steelers are playing the Kansas City Chiefs on Monday night football.
• 16:01
  SPEAKER_03: And this was in an era where Kansas City was representing the AFC in Super Bowls, and the Steelers were not quite the Steelers yet.
• 16:09
  SPEAKER_03: And so the Chiefs are really dominating the game.
• 16:12
  SPEAKER_03: They're up 31-9 in the fourth quarter.
• 16:15
  SPEAKER_03: And the Steelers do get a big play, though.
• 16:18
  SPEAKER_03: Terry Bradshaw hits wide receiver Dave Smith on a slant pass across the middle of the field.
• 16:23
  SPEAKER_03: Now, now Dave Smith, he he was really uh an excellent athlete.
• 16:28
  SPEAKER_03: He's actually the first ever IUP graduate to be drafted in the NFL.
• 16:32
  SPEAKER_03: That had happened the year before.
• 16:34
  SPEAKER_03: And at IUP, he'd played football, basketball, and baseball.
• 16:37
  SPEAKER_03: So the guy was a really athletic uh football player.
• 16:41
  SPEAKER_03: And he's playing pretty well for the Steelers that year, too.
• 16:43
  SPEAKER_03: He actually ends up leading the team in touchdown receptions in 1971.
• 16:48
  SPEAKER_03: So on this play, Smith catches that slant pass around midfield, and he just makes a great athletic play to sort of outrace the entire Kansas City defense all the way to the end zone.
• 16:58
  SPEAKER_03: At around the three-yard line or so, Smith raises his arms up in celebration.
• 17:04
  SPEAKER_03: And as he does that, the ball slips out of his hands before he crosses the goal line.
• 17:09
  SPEAKER_03: And then, sort of to make it look even dumber, he he kind of tries to reach his arm back, and then he like banana peel slips and falls down.
• 17:17
  SPEAKER_03: And the ball ends up bouncing into the back of the end zone.
• 17:21
  SPEAKER_03: And so instead of a touchdown for Pittsburgh, it's a touchback for Kansas City.
• 17:26
  SPEAKER_03: And in that play, it's mostly inconsequential to the results because, as we said, Kansas City was at an insurmountable lead at the time.
• 17:34
  SPEAKER_03: Stewart's were not going to come back from 31 to 9 at that point.
• 17:38
  SPEAKER_03: But because it was such a huge blooper and because it happened on Monday Night Football, Monday Night Football back then was huge.
• 17:45
  SPEAKER_03: You only had the three networks.
• 17:47
  SPEAKER_03: You didn't have cable.
• 17:48
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, it that was the game that everybody watched.
• 17:51
  SPEAKER_03: And so because that happened on Monday Night Football, it ends up getting a ton of national attention.
• 17:55
  SPEAKER_03: It it's featured on Johnny Carson.
• 17:57
  SPEAKER_03: He's making jokes about it.
• 17:59
  SPEAKER_03: And then for years and years after that, every single Monday Night Football retrospective, including that clip I played at the beginning there, always relived that play.
• 18:08
  SPEAKER_03: That was always one of the moments in Monday Night Football history.
• 18:13
  SPEAKER_03: So, you know, not real consequential to the results, but but you know, poor Dave Smith, I I think it's kind of unfortunate for him because he never really does anything of note in the NFL after that.
• 18:26
  SPEAKER_03: And and so that would just ends up being his you know, quote unquote signature moment in terms of his fame.
• 18:32
  SPEAKER_03: And and he actually passed away in 2020, and of course that play is mentioned in his obituary.
• 18:39
  SPEAKER_03: So I just I kind of feel bad for him because it it wasn't even, you know, we've seen this, we saw this later with like Deshaun Jackson did that in Dallas once.
• 18:48
  SPEAKER_03: But but like usually when you saw something like this, a guy lose the ball before the end zone, it's like they were being cocky or they were spiking it or something.
• 18:55
  SPEAKER_03: And I think Dave Smith, I think he just kind of like I think he just let the emotion you know get the better of him.
• 19:01
  SPEAKER_03: He just kind of like raised his arms, he's excited, he made this great play, and he just kind of put his arm up a little too early and and the ball just slipped out.
• 19:08
  SPEAKER_03: So I don't know.
• 19:09
  SPEAKER_03: It just kind of unfortunate for him.
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_03: I bet Chuck Noel was really happy about that.
• 19:16
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I imagine Noel probably had a thing or two to say about that on the line.
• 19:22
  SPEAKER_07: He wasn't acting like he had been there before.
• 19:25
  SPEAKER_03: Maybe that's where that phrase came from.
• 19:28
  SPEAKER_07: I I just I I who like people always say, Oh, these modern athletes, you know, but it's like you know, this is all the way back in 1971, so obviously this has been going on, like people making like bonehead celebrations for a long time.
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_07: So I mean what are you gonna do?
• 19:48
  SPEAKER_03: That's a good point, Steve.
• 19:50
  SPEAKER_03: That's a very good point.
• 19:51
  SPEAKER_03: You're right.
• 19:51
  SPEAKER_03: People forget that.
• 19:53
  SPEAKER_03: That that stuff happened even back then.
• 19:56
  SPEAKER_07: And too, this is like the early, this is before the Steelers were they were still weren't really good yet.
• 20:02
  SPEAKER_07: Like 71.
• 20:03
  SPEAKER_07: What they weren't at 72 the next year they would make the playoffs, but they really I mean, I don't know what their record was at the end of the 71 season, but they were improving, but they definitely weren't a playoff team yet.
• 20:16
  SPEAKER_07: Right.
• 20:18
  SPEAKER_03: All right, on to number 16 on our list, and I need to take a little bit of a deep breath before this one, but here we go.
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_06: 69-68.
• 20:33
  SPEAKER_10: Elamine down the lane, spinning against Greer the shot.
• 20:37
  SPEAKER_10: Good! Elamine scores with two seconds to play.
• 20:41
  SPEAKER_09: What a win! What a win by Connecticut.
• 20:46
  SPEAKER_03: So this is December 12th, 1998.
• 20:49
  SPEAKER_03: Pitts playing Connecticut, who at the time is the number one team in the country in college basketball.
• 20:57
  SPEAKER_03: And they will ultimately go on to win a national championship that year.
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_03: They're playing them at the Fitzgerald Fieldhouse in Oakland.
• 21:05
  SPEAKER_03: Ralph Willard is the pit coach.
• 21:06
  SPEAKER_03: He's in his fifth season.
• 21:08
  SPEAKER_03: And Willard hadn't really done a lot with the team at that point, but that year it's finally starting to show some promise.
• 21:17
  SPEAKER_03: They start the season seven and one, and they have upsets against two ranked teams, number 13, Xavier, and number four Kentucky, who was the defending national champions at the time.
• 21:28
  SPEAKER_03: So this pit team's actually looking like they they could do something and make some noise.
• 21:33
  SPEAKER_03: They're actually ranked in the top 20 for the first time in years.
• 21:36
  SPEAKER_03: And remember, this is before the the Ben Hallen, Jamie Dixon era.
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_03: So for Pitt to be ranked at that time was almost unheard of.
• 21:43
  SPEAKER_03: And now they're opening up their big E schedule with a home game against number one Yukon.
• 21:49
  SPEAKER_03: And it looks like they're going to pull off another huge upset.
• 21:51
  SPEAKER_03: They really outplay Connecticut for most of the game.
• 21:54
  SPEAKER_03: They have a 13 point lead in the second half.
• 21:56
  SPEAKER_03: That eventually evaporates, but Pitt still leads by four.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_03: In the final seconds.
• 22:02
  SPEAKER_03: Yukon does hit a three to pull within one, but all Pitt really has to do is inbound the ball, hit their free throws, and that's going to be the end of the game.
• 22:12
  SPEAKER_03: So Vontigo Cummings, who's Pitt's best player, he's the one charged with in inbounding the ball, and he throws it away.
• 22:20
  SPEAKER_03: He throws it way over everybody's head.
• 22:23
  SPEAKER_03: And it's tracked down by UConn point guard Khalida Alamine, who then dribbles up the court and hits a game-winning basket with two seconds left.
• 22:31
  SPEAKER_03: And Connecticut wins.
• 22:34
  SPEAKER_03: And and Steve, like what I remember about this game is it was the game where I just was officially done with pit basketball.
• 22:42
  SPEAKER_03: And I I I I I couldn't, you know, pit football was already ripping my guts out.
• 22:48
  SPEAKER_03: I couldn't have two pit teams doing that to me all the time.
• 22:51
  SPEAKER_03: And I just I was so disgusted and sickened after that game that I just I was never as emotionally invested in pit basketball after that game as I was before that game.
• 23:02
  SPEAKER_03: And I think the thing that really upset me the most was if I had to if I had to pick a list of the top five opposing players in any sport who I just loathed and detested the most, call it alamine would be a lock, an absolute lock for the top five.
• 23:21
  SPEAKER_03: I couldn't stand that guy.
• 23:23
  SPEAKER_03: And they threw the ball away to him and let him hit the game-winning score.
• 23:27
  SPEAKER_03: And then he jumps up on the scorers table and pounds his chest at Fitzgerald Fieldhouse, and all the Pitt students are pelting him with water bottles, which, you know, normally I I certainly wouldn't uh advocate, but at the time I was like, you know, hit him with something harder than plastic bottles.
• 23:45
  SPEAKER_03: So that that game just boy, did that make me uh angry.
• 23:49
  SPEAKER_03: And and it wasn't like Yukon made a great play to win the game.
• 23:52
  SPEAKER_03: It was like Pitt literally threw threw the ball away.
• 23:56
  SPEAKER_07: It's so fit.
• 23:57
  SPEAKER_07: I remember I remember him getting like, didn't Jim Calhoun complain about people throwing stuff at him?
• 24:02
  SPEAKER_07: Oh yeah, maybe my maybe my player shouldn't have jumped up on the scores table.
• 24:06
  SPEAKER_07: Like if you want to run over your team and pound your chest and celebrate and people do that, I would probably have more sympathy than what are you doing on the scores table of like an opposing venue?
• 24:16
  SPEAKER_07: And then like, I'm shocked that the opposing fans would take exception to that.
• 24:21
  SPEAKER_07: It's like, yeah, I wonder.
• 24:23
  SPEAKER_03: So yeah, yeah.
• 24:25
  SPEAKER_03: Calhoun was very like clutching his pearls, and won't someone think of the children.
• 24:30
  SPEAKER_03: I you know, it's like you won the game, jerk, and you know, you didn't deserve to win the game.
• 24:34
  SPEAKER_03: Can you just let us throw our bottles at this jerk player that you have?
• 24:39
  SPEAKER_03: Like, please.
• 24:42
  SPEAKER_07: Or just not say anything about just like, oh, it was a great win, and you know, we celebrated and whatever.
• 24:47
  SPEAKER_07: And it's just yeah, it's just the whole I I never quite got that by Jim Calhoun.
• 24:52
  SPEAKER_07: Like, yeah, I guess he was trying to stand up for his player, but whatever.
• 24:57
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, whatever.
• 24:59
  SPEAKER_03: Boo-hoo.
• 25:00
  SPEAKER_03: Well, that season Pitt never recovers.
• 25:02
  SPEAKER_03: They finished the season under 500, and Ralph Willard is fired after that year because, you know, why not?
• 25:11
  SPEAKER_07: Stealing stuff.
• 25:12
  SPEAKER_07: Yes.
• 25:12
  SPEAKER_07: Was he the guy that got fired?
• 25:14
  SPEAKER_07: So I forget the fire was stealing stuff.
• 25:16
  SPEAKER_07: That was on one of our podcasts.
• 25:18
  SPEAKER_07: I mentioned that.
• 25:19
  SPEAKER_03: Yes, we had we had a burglar on the team.
• 25:22
  SPEAKER_03: That's a true story.
• 25:24
  SPEAKER_03: Uh I I do feel kind of bad for Vontigo Cummings.
• 25:27
  SPEAKER_03: He was a he was a really good player.
• 25:28
  SPEAKER_03: He actually ended up being a first-round pick in the NBA.
• 25:31
  SPEAKER_03: And he was a real good player during a time when Pitt was just a bad program.
• 25:36
  SPEAKER_03: Uh so it it kind of sucked that he was the one that made that mistake.
• 25:40
  SPEAKER_03: But again, you play for Pitt and that's what happens.
• 25:44
  SPEAKER_03: All right, number 15 on the list.
• 25:49
  SPEAKER_04: Coming up together.
• 25:51
  SPEAKER_04: That's the three ball, three ball, and the 49ers get a touchdown.
• 25:57
  SPEAKER_04: I haven't ever seen that before in 30 years of football.
• 26:00
  SPEAKER_04: You always talk to people about it.
• 26:02
  SPEAKER_04: You warn them about it.
• 26:04
  SPEAKER_03: Oh so we actually have not seen that in 30 years of football.
• 26:14
  SPEAKER_03: Yes, and the and the pain.
• 26:16
  SPEAKER_03: That was that was Bill Walsh, the legendary 49ers coach who was who was talking there.
• 26:21
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 26:22
  SPEAKER_03: Announcing the game.
• 26:24
  SPEAKER_07: Bill Walsh hasn't seen it in 30 years.
• 26:26
  SPEAKER_07: Wow, that's impressive.
• 26:28
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 26:28
  SPEAKER_03: And you could hear like the pain in his voice.
• 26:30
  SPEAKER_03: Like so, so what was Bill Walsh talking about?
• 26:34
  SPEAKER_03: So week seven of the 1990 season, the Steelers are in San Francisco to take on the undefeated 49ers, is obviously after Bill Walsh retired.
• 26:43
  SPEAKER_03: Uh Niners are two-time defending Super Bowl champions.
• 26:47
  SPEAKER_03: So the Steelers, you know, are sort of mediocre back then.
• 26:50
  SPEAKER_03: Niners are really good.
• 26:52
  SPEAKER_03: Steelers can't afford to make any mistakes on a road game against a team that's undefeated.
• 26:57
  SPEAKER_03: And the the Steelers are actually in the game in the second half.
• 27:00
  SPEAKER_03: San Francisco's up 10-7, but the Steelers' defense has been playing really well.
• 27:05
  SPEAKER_03: They've held Joe Montana and Jerry Race in check.
• 27:08
  SPEAKER_03: They actually intercepted Montana twice in the first half.
• 27:12
  SPEAKER_03: And San Francisco kicks a field goal to make it 13-7, but that's that's still manageable.
• 27:17
  SPEAKER_03: It's a one-score game.
• 27:18
  SPEAKER_03: That's a good spot to be in against a team like this on the road.
• 27:21
  SPEAKER_03: So after they kick that field goal, uh the 49ers kick off back to the Steelers.
• 27:26
  SPEAKER_03: And back deep for the Steelers is a rookie running back named Barry Foster.
• 27:31
  SPEAKER_03: He's back to return the kickoff.
• 27:33
  SPEAKER_03: And the ball kind of goes over his head to the side, and Foster just stands there and lets it bounce at the five-yard line.
• 27:40
  SPEAKER_03: And basically what he's doing is he's treating it like it's a punt, but it's not a punt on a kickoff.
• 27:46
  SPEAKER_03: That's a live football.
• 27:48
  SPEAKER_03: And the Niners pounce on it as Foster's just standing there watching, and they open up a two-score lead, and at that point, the Steelers are done.
• 27:56
  SPEAKER_03: They're not going to overcome that.
• 27:57
  SPEAKER_03: And San Francisco ends up winning the game pretty handily.
• 28:01
  SPEAKER_03: And, you know, the 49ers that year have one of the greatest teams in NFL history.
• 28:08
  SPEAKER_03: Their great dynasty is at its peak.
• 28:10
  SPEAKER_03: And the Steelers have Bubby Brewster in an offense that hadn't scored a touchdown until October of that season.
• 28:16
  SPEAKER_03: So probably the Steelers aren't going to win this game anyway.
• 28:19
  SPEAKER_03: But, you know, I mean, again, it was a manageable score at that point.
• 28:24
  SPEAKER_03: And that play really just turned things.
• 28:28
  SPEAKER_03: And it was such a just a brain fart.
• 28:31
  SPEAKER_03: Because if you're a kickoff returner, you have to know that that's a live ball.
• 28:36
  SPEAKER_03: And that's kind of what Bill Walls was saying in that clip there.
• 28:39
  SPEAKER_03: Like, you always teach guys, you always try to remind them like, hey, a kickoff is different than a punt, but you you never actually see somebody, you know, forget that in the middle of a live game, while Barry Foster did.
• 28:51
  SPEAKER_03: Steve, you mentioned Chuck Noel being up, you know, upset about Dave Smith the 20 years earlier.
• 28:57
  SPEAKER_03: They asked Chuck Noel after the game what happened on that play, and Noel's quote was, What happened?
• 29:03
  SPEAKER_03: We screwed up good is what happened.
• 29:06
  SPEAKER_03: And and Foster actually ends up riding the bench for the next two years under Noel.
• 29:10
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, Noel never really forgave him for that.
• 29:12
  SPEAKER_03: But he did get a second chance under Bill Cower when Bill Cower took over in 1992.
• 29:17
  SPEAKER_03: And Foster ends up having a record-setting season in 92.
• 29:21
  SPEAKER_03: I think he still holds the record for rushing yards in a season by a Steeler.
• 29:25
  SPEAKER_03: So Foster Foster overcame that and came back and you know had some good years for the Steelers after that, at least.
• 29:32
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, it's just like he literally thought it was a punt.
• 29:35
  SPEAKER_07: That's what happened.
• 29:37
  SPEAKER_07: And uh I mean, I think that's part of probably what drove Chuck Knowle to retirement because he just couldn't I mean he didn't he couldn't relate to the players anymore.
• 29:49
  SPEAKER_07: And good for Chuck Knowle for realizing that because you know, how could you leave like a 1600-yard rusher on the bench?
• 29:57
  SPEAKER_07: You're just yo shooting yourself in the foot.
• 30:00
  SPEAKER_07: And maybe Barry Foster needed a change of like coaching staff to take himself on.
• 30:07
  SPEAKER_07: Although, like, you know, after his two years, he had like what two good years, he didn't really have another good year after that.
• 30:13
  SPEAKER_07: So I don't know.
• 30:15
  SPEAKER_07: No, but that's there was something to that.
• 30:16
  SPEAKER_03: That's not super uncommon for a running back.
• 30:18
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, they they do have short shelf lives to begin with.
• 30:21
  SPEAKER_03: Um and Foster.
• 30:22
  SPEAKER_07: Especially the way he ran.
• 30:24
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 30:25
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 30:26
  SPEAKER_03: So, but at least, you know, at least it will at least it's not kind of the Dave Smith thing where that's like his only play of his career.
• 30:32
  SPEAKER_03: So at least he has that going for him.
• 30:36
  SPEAKER_03: All right, number fourteen on the list.
• 30:38
  SPEAKER_03: We're gonna go uh a little further back in time for this one.
• 30:43
  SPEAKER_00: There won't be another inning.
• 30:44
  SPEAKER_00: one.
• 30:45
  SPEAKER_00: Master League present Ford Frick is in the press box, and the umpires have passed up the word.
• 30:50
  SPEAKER_00: It's now or never, Leo.
• 30:52
  SPEAKER_00: He throws.
• 30:53
  SPEAKER_00: Gabby swings.
• 30:54
  SPEAKER_00: He hits it.
• 30:55
  SPEAKER_00: It's a long, long drive, way, way out in the left shelter.
• 30:59
  SPEAKER_00: Lloyd Wainer is racing back.
• 31:00
  SPEAKER_00: It's going, it's going.
• 31:02
  SPEAKER_00: It may be, it may be.
• 31:04
  SPEAKER_00: It is.
• 31:09
  SPEAKER_03: So we're going back to 1938 for this one.
• 31:12
  SPEAKER_03: 1938, the Pirates are having a stellar season, actually.
• 31:17
  SPEAKER_03: They have a seven-game lead in the National League in September.
• 31:22
  SPEAKER_03: And remember, this is back when there's no divisions.
• 31:24
  SPEAKER_03: So if you have the best record in the National League, you play the team with the best record in the American League in the World Series.
• 31:31
  SPEAKER_03: And with a seven-game lead in September, the team actually expands the press box at Forbes Field in anticipation of all the media that's going to be flooding into Pittsburgh for the World Series.
• 31:40
  SPEAKER_03: That's how certain they were that they were headed to the World Series, that they're expanding the press box in preparation for it.
• 31:46
  SPEAKER_03: Well, hold everything because the Cubs get red hot.
• 31:50
  SPEAKER_03: They win 18 out of 23 games to pull within a half game of the Pirates.
• 31:54
  SPEAKER_03: And part of this was the Pirates blowing that big lead, but I mean, 18 out of 23 is pretty pretty special.
• 32:01
  SPEAKER_03: So the Cubs were really on fire.
• 32:03
  SPEAKER_03: And on September 28th, which is the last week of the season, the Pirates are at Wrigley in a huge game to potentially decide to pennant.
• 32:12
  SPEAKER_03: Um again, last week of the season, there's only a few games left, and the Pirates are clinging to this half game lead.
• 32:17
  SPEAKER_03: So the Cubs could take over first place with a win, and the Pirates can get back to a game and a half lead if they can win, which again, with only a few games left, might you know just get them into the World Series.
• 32:30
  SPEAKER_03: It ends up being a classic game.
• 32:32
  SPEAKER_03: The Cubs have the lead, then the Pirates have the lead, then the Cubs tie it up.
• 32:36
  SPEAKER_03: There are some controversial calls that tilt the game for both teams, and ultimately it heads to the bottom of the ninth inning, tied at five.
• 32:46
  SPEAKER_03: But there's a problem.
• 32:47
  SPEAKER_03: It's starting to get dark outside, and in 1938, there are no lights at Wrigley Field.
• 32:53
  SPEAKER_03: In fact, there wouldn't be lights at Wrigley Field until I think the late 80s.
• 32:57
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 32:58
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, 86 or 87.
• 32:59
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, I remember I remember like people protesting when they put lights on regular field.
• 33:05
  SPEAKER_03: I I just remember that line in Field of Dreams when Kevin Costner says, like, oh, even Wrigley Field has lights now.
• 33:10
  SPEAKER_03: And that was that was pretty recent.
• 33:12
  SPEAKER_03: Owners.
• 33:14
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 33:14
  SPEAKER_07: He's like, owners.
• 33:15
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 33:16
  SPEAKER_07: Show us Joe didn't like owners.
• 33:18
  SPEAKER_03: No, he didn't.
• 33:20
  SPEAKER_03: So so yeah, it's it's starting to get dark outside.
• 33:23
  SPEAKER_03: And back then, what happened was if it was too dark to play, they would have just called the game and it would have ended in a tie.
• 33:31
  SPEAKER_03: And that actually would have benefited the Pirates because again, they had the half game lead in the division at the time.
• 33:36
  SPEAKER_03: But the umpires, they huddle up and they decide, hey, let's let's try to just get in the bottom of the ninth, right?
• 33:42
  SPEAKER_03: If if it's still tight after bottom of the ninth, then we're done.
• 33:45
  SPEAKER_03: We're gonna call the game, but let's try to get in that last half inning.
• 33:48
  SPEAKER_03: The Pirates have Mace Brown on the mound.
• 33:51
  SPEAKER_03: He's their ace reliever that year.
• 33:54
  SPEAKER_03: He Steve, this stat is pretty amazing.
• 33:56
  SPEAKER_03: He had 15 wins that year, all in relief.
• 33:59
  SPEAKER_07: What the heck?
• 34:00
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 34:01
  SPEAKER_03: Wow.
• 34:01
  SPEAKER_07: They had a lot of comeback wins, I guess.
• 34:03
  SPEAKER_07: Well, you gotta remember like relievers, like we're thinking, oh, he just came into the ninth.
• 34:08
  SPEAKER_07: Like, they didn't call him reliever, they called him like what fireman or something like that.
• 34:12
  SPEAKER_07: Because they would come out like if you got into like the seventh inning and you had like two guys on and one or two people out, you would send that guy in, and then he wouldn't just pitch the one batter, he would pitch from the seventh to the end of the game.
• 34:27
  SPEAKER_07: So that might have been what was going on with that guy.
• 34:29
  SPEAKER_07: He might have come in in a lot of tie games.
• 34:32
  SPEAKER_07: Okay.
• 34:33
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, I mean I don't know if that's what happened, but I would assume it would have to be something like that.
• 34:39
  SPEAKER_07: Unless the 1938 Pirates are so far ahead in their analytics that they were using an opener.
• 34:45
  SPEAKER_07: I don't know.
• 34:48
  SPEAKER_07: That's the 1938 Pirates.
• 34:50
  SPEAKER_07: Well, they had their little you know, abacuses out and they figured it out and didn't have computers back then.
• 34:56
  SPEAKER_03: So yeah, so so pretty impressive.
• 35:00
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, he he won 15 games in relief, so he's he's definitely the guy you want on the mound in a tie game in the bottom of the ninth.
• 35:07
  SPEAKER_03: And sure enough, Mace Brown gets the first two guys out, and then he faces Hall of Famer Gabby Hartnett, who's the Cubs catcher/slash manager.
• 35:15
  SPEAKER_03: Uh and and Brown, the first two pitches, he throws two curve balls and they're both strikes.
• 35:21
  SPEAKER_03: So he's quickly ahead in the count 0-2, which means you know, if you if you have an 0-2 count, you can then you know throw something outside, throw something that's just pretty much an automatic ball, but maybe the guy will swing at it.
• 35:36
  SPEAKER_03: Uh work the count at that point.
• 35:38
  SPEAKER_03: You're way ahead.
• 35:39
  SPEAKER_03: Well, for whatever reason, it maybe it was the fact that it was getting dark, uh, maybe it was just overconfidence.
• 35:47
  SPEAKER_03: Brown makes the ill-fated decision to throw a third curve ball, and this time Hartnett is looking for it and he crushes it over the left field wall for the game-winning home run.
• 35:57
  SPEAKER_03: And as soon as the bat is cracked, Brown doesn't even watch.
• 36:01
  SPEAKER_03: He just immediately buries his head in his arms.
• 36:03
  SPEAKER_03: He knows exactly what he's just done.
• 36:05
  SPEAKER_03: The Cubs win the game, they take over first place, and they ultimately win the pennant and go to the World Series.
• 36:11
  SPEAKER_03: And the play is forever known as the Homer in the Glowman, one of the greatest moments in Cubs history at the expense of Mace Brown.
• 36:20
  SPEAKER_03: And you have to feel for Brown.
• 36:22
  SPEAKER_03: Uh the news accounts at the time say he's seen openly weeping in his locker after the game.
• 36:28
  SPEAKER_03: And then Paul Wayner, the Pirates Hall of Fame right fielder, he actually stays by Brown's side all night at the team hotel.
• 36:36
  SPEAKER_03: And he says, quote, I was so afraid he was going to commit suicide.
• 36:41
  SPEAKER_03: So Mace Brown pretty dejected after giving up that home run.
• 36:45
  SPEAKER_03: Uh Brown lives until the early 2000 and reportedly just never gets over it.
• 36:51
  unknown: Wow.
• 36:52
  SPEAKER_07: Um, yeah, that's wow, that's crazy.
• 36:54
  SPEAKER_07: I I've I've never heard that story before, which it's pretty impressive.
• 37:00
  SPEAKER_07: But um yeah, I mean 1938, wow.
• 37:04
  SPEAKER_07: And uh who won the World Series that year, do you know?
• 37:06
  SPEAKER_07: Because it wasn't the Cubs, we know that right.
• 37:09
  SPEAKER_03: I think it was the Yankees.
• 37:10
  SPEAKER_03: Take your home or 38?
• 37:14
  SPEAKER_07: Maybe the no, the Dodgers didn't win till the 50s, right?
• 37:16
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 37:17
  SPEAKER_07: Well the Dodgers were in the National League.
• 37:18
  SPEAKER_03: I'm pretty sure it was the Yankees.
• 37:21
  SPEAKER_03: If you're ever in doubt, if you're ever in doubt of who won the World Series, just guess the Yankees.
• 37:26
  SPEAKER_03: And you're probably right.
• 37:28
  SPEAKER_07: Well they do have do have what, 27, 26 of them, something like that.
• 37:32
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 37:33
  SPEAKER_07: Right?
• 37:34
  SPEAKER_07: You got a you got a good chance, got a good chance there.
• 37:37
  SPEAKER_07: It was some some American league team, that's why.
• 37:40
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, and it wasn't the White Sox or Red Sox.
• 37:42
  SPEAKER_07: Right.
• 37:45
  SPEAKER_03: So yeah, but just any just a bummer.
• 37:50
  SPEAKER_03: Well, that's a bummer too, because that that you know, the Pirates really uh just that could have been and whether or not they would have beat the Yankees, who knows?
• 37:58
  SPEAKER_07: But that doesn't get that doesn't get talked a lot.
• 38:02
  SPEAKER_07: Like that collapse, like because like that's up there with like the Phillies that collapse in the 60s.
• 38:07
  SPEAKER_07: Right.
• 38:08
  SPEAKER_07: You know, that the Phillies had, so with you know, Gene Mock and all them.
• 38:13
  SPEAKER_07: So I don't know.
• 38:14
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, and expanding I'm surprised I haven't heard more about that.
• 38:18
  SPEAKER_03: And expanding the press box in the middle of a depression, I'm sure, you know, they they had to be pretty positive that that was worthwhile, you know, to do that work because the team would have had to pay for that back then.
• 38:30
  SPEAKER_07: So you know who else was having a good season in 1938, so that's it.
• 38:34
  SPEAKER_07: There you go.
• 38:37
  SPEAKER_07: I was gonna let that joke out there.
• 38:39
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 38:40
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 38:41
  SPEAKER_03: All right.
• 38:42
  SPEAKER_03: Number 13 on our list.
• 38:45
  SPEAKER_10: And we've got flags.
• 38:46
  SPEAKER_10: Oh, we have four flags because of a little skirmish between Hayes and BJ Johnson.
• 38:52
  SPEAKER_10: Four flags, David.
• 38:54
  SPEAKER_00: Personal foul.
• 38:55
  SPEAKER_00: Unnecessary roughness, number 44.
• 38:58
  SPEAKER_00: He has been ejected.
• 38:59
  SPEAKER_00: Woohoo!
• 39:02
  SPEAKER_06: Hurt your team.
• 39:03
  SPEAKER_06: Don't get ejected.
• 39:04
  SPEAKER_06: He is one of the fine cornerbacks.
• 39:09
  SPEAKER_03: This is a Steelers game.
• 39:12
  SPEAKER_07: That's crazy.
• 39:13
  SPEAKER_07: Another Al Michaels clip.
• 39:15
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah.
• 39:16
  SPEAKER_03: We're gonna have we're gonna have some more Al Michaels before we're done.
• 39:19
  SPEAKER_03: Nice, nice.
• 39:20
  SPEAKER_07: He he's a very good announcer, so.
• 39:22
  SPEAKER_03: He is, he is.
• 39:23
  SPEAKER_03: So the Steelers are playing at Arrowhead Stadium in a 1993 playoff game against the Kansas City Chiefs.
• 39:29
  SPEAKER_03: The Chiefs have a quarterback by the name of Joe Montana.
• 39:33
  SPEAKER_03: We just saw him a few uh items ago on the list playing for the 49ers.
• 39:37
  SPEAKER_03: At this point in his career, he he had been injured, he had been traded to Kansas City, but he's still Joe Montana.
• 39:43
  SPEAKER_03: He's still the arguably the greatest quarterback ever to play the game.
• 39:47
  SPEAKER_03: So it's a tough matchup for the Steelers because Kansas City's just a tough stadium to play in, period, uh, and they're facing Joe Montana.
• 39:55
  SPEAKER_03: But the Steelers are up 7-0 late in the first quarter, and their defense is not only playing well, their defense is playing physical.
• 40:03
  SPEAKER_03: Donald Evans, who's the defensive tackle for the Steelers, he drills Montana and temporarily knocks him out of the game.
• 40:09
  SPEAKER_03: So the Steelers really have everything going in their favor.
• 40:12
  SPEAKER_03: They've quieted the crowd, they've knocked Montana out of the game, they have all the momentum.
• 40:17
  SPEAKER_03: And on the first play with backup quarterback Dave Craig in the game for Kansas City, Steelers cornerback DJ Johnson just absolutely loses his mind and kicks Kansas City wide receiver Tim Barnett in the head.
• 40:30
  SPEAKER_03: I guess Barnett had blocked him low, and Johnson just didn't appreciate that.
• 40:34
  SPEAKER_03: So he kicks him in the head.
• 40:36
  SPEAKER_03: And this is an NFL playoff game, right?
• 40:39
  SPEAKER_03: You have to do something pretty egregious to get kicked out of an NFL playoff game.
• 40:43
  SPEAKER_03: And DJ Johnson was up for that challenge.
• 40:45
  SPEAKER_03: And not only does that penalty give Kansas City 15 yards and the momentum back, but it gets, as you heard in the clip, it gets Johnson ejected from the game, and that was huge.
• 40:56
  SPEAKER_03: Because the Steelers had Rod Woodson, who was that year was the NFL's defensive player of the year, playing on the left side at cornerback, which meant that DJ Johnson on the right side got a lot of balls thrown his way that season.
• 41:09
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, a lot of teams were like, hey, we're just not even throwing on Rod Woodson's side.
• 41:13
  SPEAKER_03: We're just going to throw at this guy all day.
• 41:16
  SPEAKER_03: And he played really well.
• 41:18
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, you know, I mean, he was he wasn't a star, but he he held his he held down the fort pretty well.
• 41:23
  SPEAKER_03: And now he gets thrown out of the game in the first quarter against Joe Montana.
• 41:28
  SPEAKER_03: And that just that just absolutely doomed the Steelers defense that day.
• 41:32
  SPEAKER_03: Kansas City goes on to score a touchdown on that drive without Montana, thanks largely to that penalty.
• 41:37
  SPEAKER_03: And then Montana ultimately does come back into the game and leads Kansas City to an overtime victory.
• 41:42
  SPEAKER_03: It ends up being DJ Johnson's last ever play in a Steeler uniform.
• 41:46
  SPEAKER_03: He he goes elsewhere after the season and then is out of the league a few years later.
• 41:51
  SPEAKER_03: Um DJ Johnson, I I mean, if you remember him, Stevie had like that very um you know I don't know how to describe it.
• 41:59
  SPEAKER_07: He had like a curly he had like a curly haircut, didn't he?
• 42:03
  SPEAKER_07: Like I remember he had curly hair and he wore like kind of like a bandana.
• 42:07
  SPEAKER_07: That's exactly that's exactly right.
• 42:09
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 42:09
  SPEAKER_03: That's that's that's exactly what he had.
• 42:11
  SPEAKER_07: He kind of looked like like if Easy E was a football player and not a rapper, that's that's who he would be.
• 42:18
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, good comparison.
• 42:19
  SPEAKER_07: And he wasn't he wasn't a bad he wasn't a bad player at all, but but boy, that was such a such a bad move to get kicked out of a playoff game against Joe Freaking Montana um when you really needed your your entire didn't Montana complete like a fourth and seven too against his backup and they blocked like there was a punt, Mark Royals had a punt blocked, right?
• 42:44
  SPEAKER_07: Like a lot of other stuff did happen in that game, and like my personal memory is I remember like going out with my mother and my sister, and they went shopping, and we went to the um you know where Lowe's is in Bethel Park, like we're in that it used to be in Ames way back when I think.
• 43:03
  SPEAKER_07: And like we're in that parking lot, and I was listening to that game on the radio, and like it was the old um uh who's the old announcer with Iron Coat before Jack Fleming.
• 43:13
  SPEAKER_07: Jack Fleming.
• 43:14
  SPEAKER_07: And it was like at the end of Jack Fleming's career.
• 43:18
  SPEAKER_07: So like when they when they kicked um, who was it?
• 43:21
  SPEAKER_07: Was it Morton Anderson?
• 43:22
  SPEAKER_07: I think was their kicker.
• 43:24
  SPEAKER_07: I think it was Nick Lowry.
• 43:25
  SPEAKER_07: Nick Lowry, yeah.
• 43:26
  SPEAKER_07: So he's like, and Lowry's kick is and because it's in Kansas City, it's in overtime, and all I'm saying here, it's like, thanks, thanks, loving.
• 43:36
  SPEAKER_07: I I think I know that this kick is good.
• 43:38
  SPEAKER_07: And he's like, it's good.
• 43:40
  SPEAKER_07: It's like thanks, yeah.
• 43:41
  SPEAKER_07: I I figured that out that people in Kansas City weren't cheering because he missed the field goal.
• 43:49
  SPEAKER_03: Uh yeah, Jack Jack stayed on a few years too long.
• 43:53
  SPEAKER_03: But but yes, DJ Johnson getting kicked out of the playoff game.
• 43:57
  SPEAKER_03: Just and and and again, like not for a You know, because like now they have like the targeting penalties and stuff that could get guys in trouble.
• 44:04
  SPEAKER_03: But but this wasn't like a during the play, like you hit him too high by accident.
• 44:09
  SPEAKER_03: This is literally the play's over, and he walks over and he's upset and he just kicks a guy in the head.
• 44:14
  SPEAKER_03: So really, really bad play there by DJ.
• 44:19
  SPEAKER_03: All right, number 12 on the list.
• 44:24
  SPEAKER_08: Faez hits it on the ground of third Gonzalez.
• 44:28
  SPEAKER_08: Oh my goodness! You're gonna be kidding me! You've gonna be hitting me! You have gonna be kidding me! Hummy Biden is keep going! Go! Go! Think you're invisible! Elma goal indeed.
• 44:50
  SPEAKER_03: So, Pirates versus Cubs again, this time 83 years later, in May of 2021, the Pirates are playing the Cubs at PNC Park.
• 44:59
  SPEAKER_03: It's the top of the third inning.
• 45:01
  SPEAKER_03: Cubs have a guy on second, and there's two outs.
• 45:04
  SPEAKER_03: I just want to repeat, there are two outs.
• 45:07
  SPEAKER_03: Javi Baez is at the plate for the Cubs, he hits a grounder to third.
• 45:11
  SPEAKER_03: Third baseman throws it to Will Craig, the Pirates' first baseman, and that should seemingly end the inning.
• 45:17
  SPEAKER_03: Now, to be fair, the throw is a little off the bag.
• 45:21
  SPEAKER_03: So Craig doesn't have his foot on the back when he catches it.
• 45:24
  SPEAKER_03: He has to take a step off, but he still catches it.
• 45:27
  SPEAKER_03: He still has plenty of time to just move two feet to his right, touch first base, and end the inning.
• 45:32
  SPEAKER_03: In fact, Baez makes it really easy for him because he turns around and starts running back towards home plate.
• 45:39
  SPEAKER_03: And that's when Craig makes the dubious decision to start chasing Baez.
• 45:44
  SPEAKER_03: Why does he do this?
• 45:45
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know that we'll ever know the answer to that, but it's probably the first ever first base to home plate rundown in the history of Major League Baseball.
• 45:54
  SPEAKER_03: Uh because all you have to do at first base is touch first and the guy's out.
• 45:58
  SPEAKER_03: But Craig chases him, and as he's doing that, the runner from second comes all the way home.
• 46:03
  SPEAKER_03: So then Craig, seeing that, attempts to throw it at the catcher, but it's too late.
• 46:07
  SPEAKER_03: That guy scores, and now Baez turns around.
• 46:10
  SPEAKER_03: He's running back towards first.
• 46:12
  SPEAKER_03: And since Craig was busy chasing him, there's no one to cover first.
• 46:15
  SPEAKER_03: The pitcher tries to cover it, he's too late, the ball gets into the outfield.
• 46:19
  SPEAKER_03: Baez eventually ends up making it to second.
• 46:22
  SPEAKER_03: Just an absolute embarrassment of a play.
• 46:25
  SPEAKER_03: And you know, you might be saying, hey, this was this was the third inning of an inconsequential game during the season where the Pirates were lousy.
• 46:35
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, you have this number 12 on the list.
• 46:38
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, it's above them blowing the 1938 pennant.
• 46:41
  SPEAKER_03: You know, don't don't you think number 12 maybe is a little high on the list for this play?
• 46:46
  SPEAKER_03: And my response to that would be, no, no, I don't think it's too high on the list.
• 46:52
  SPEAKER_03: Because because uh this is just totally indicative of where the pirates are as a franchise right now.
• 47:01
  SPEAKER_03: They have an owner who for two decades has uh taken this team, has has filled it with cheap talent, trying to squeeze out as much profit as possible, totally just hosed over anybody that's a fan, anybody that would invest any kind of passion in the team.
• 47:20
  SPEAKER_03: And this is this is the end result of that.
• 47:23
  SPEAKER_03: The end result is the pirates are employing somebody as their first baseman who literally doesn't know the roles of the game he plays because that's where we are as a franchise.
• 47:35
  SPEAKER_03: And you know, it doesn't matter because fireworks and and and bobbleheads and PNC Park in the summertime, so people just keep coming back and supporting this trash, and and Bob Nutting gets to make lots of money, and then we end up with a first baseman who can't play first base, and it's a joke.
• 47:53
  SPEAKER_03: And anybody that grew up, you know, actually caring about this team and rooting for this team and loving this team, you know, you can't ever like them again because this is this is what they are now.
• 48:04
  SPEAKER_03: A team with a first baseman, uh a little league player would know to step on first base there, but Will Craig doesn't because pirates.
• 48:12
  SPEAKER_03: So no, it's not too high on the list.
• 48:16
  SPEAKER_07: Um well Craig isn't a rookie, so I I guess that.
• 48:20
  SPEAKER_07: And I'm assuming he's been playing baseball for a long time.
• 48:23
  SPEAKER_07: Fun facts.
• 48:24
  SPEAKER_07: You want some fun facts?
• 48:26
  SPEAKER_07: Sure.
• 48:27
  SPEAKER_07: Javi Baez on his way back to home plate would have crossed home plate, he's out.
• 48:33
  SPEAKER_07: The guy who's who, and I'm putting air quotes around scored from third, that run doesn't count until Javi Baez ray reaches first base safely.
• 48:47
  SPEAKER_07: So that guy could literally stand up and down on home plate, the guy from third, and jump up and down and touch home plate with his hands all he wants.
• 48:55
  SPEAKER_07: It doesn't count.
• 48:57
  SPEAKER_07: All you have to do is step on first base.
• 49:01
  SPEAKER_07: You don't even he could have ran and like stood in front of home plate, like in front of Jobi Baez, and like waited for the pitcher to cover first, and then let Javi Baez run by him and throw the ball to first, and the run still wouldn't have counted.
• 49:15
  SPEAKER_07: So there's a lot going on that's wrong with that play, and I've seen like seven and eight-year-olds and nine, ten-year-olds make that play, but I've never seen like high school or 11, 12-year-olds even make like even they just would have stepped on first.
• 49:31
  SPEAKER_07: It's one of the more ridiculous brain farts I've ever seen in my life.
• 49:36
  SPEAKER_07: It really is.
• 49:37
  SPEAKER_07: And I mean, you can blame the whole, but I've seen other teams, and just to wrap this up with a bow, Javi Baez later in this season forgot how many outs there were himself and just kept running and got doubled off at first and didn't even make an attempt to turn around and go back to first.
• 49:57
  SPEAKER_07: So, I mean, I maybe this is a baseball problem, but at some point, don't you gotta start finding people?
• 50:03
  SPEAKER_07: Because like the Pirates started making like a lot of defensive errors, and like don't as a manager you have to like have some accountability, you know?
• 50:13
  SPEAKER_07: And I I don't know.
• 50:15
  SPEAKER_07: I I I don't know what to say.
• 50:16
  SPEAKER_07: Maybe their baseball's union so strong you can't do it, but it's definitely upsetting that like they don't even know the rules.
• 50:25
  SPEAKER_03: So what's the point?
• 50:27
  SPEAKER_03: I mean you find 'em or you go get a new first baseman.
• 50:30
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, who cares?
• 50:31
  SPEAKER_03: It's it's the same, it's the same thing every year.
• 50:33
  SPEAKER_03: It's it's mediocre at best baseball with the cheapest payroll possible, and you just you just put more money in Bob Nutting's pocket.
• 50:43
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, what's the point?
• 50:46
  SPEAKER_07: Well, I will say this, like they do have three or four guys, and this is 2021, that aren't too bad on that team.
• 50:53
  SPEAKER_07: Now, one or two of them are probably trade bait, but they're there's two younger players, Cabron Hayes and I would say Brian Reynolds, are pretty good.
• 51:05
  SPEAKER_07: And it they could build around them for the future.
• 51:08
  SPEAKER_07: So I mean, but how many times like every i we said that with Neil Walker and Andrew McCutcheon?
• 51:15
  SPEAKER_07: We said that with you know Jack Wilson and Brian Giles, we said that with you know I don't know, Francesco Cabrera and you know whoever else was on that team, you know?
• 51:29
  SPEAKER_07: Or not Cordova or whatever.
• 51:32
  SPEAKER_07: You know, you know what I mean?
• 51:33
  SPEAKER_07: You could go back like 20 years and keep naming two or three players they had.
• 51:38
  SPEAKER_07: But at least with like I would say with McCutcheon and Walker, they got some mileage on and they went to the playoffs like three three years in a row, so I I don't know.
• 51:48
  SPEAKER_07: I don't know what to tell you.
• 51:51
  SPEAKER_07: It's not like the Cubs have won the Pirates have won more World Series in the hundred years that the cut than the Cubs have.
• 51:59
  SPEAKER_07: So take that for what it's worth.
• 52:04
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, Cabrian Hayes will be great in a Yankees uniform in five years.
• 52:08
  SPEAKER_03: That's all I know.
• 52:09
  SPEAKER_03: Because that's what always happens.
• 52:11
  SPEAKER_07: Oh I okay, I I mean I mean the Marlins have won more than the Cubs have, uh as far as like World Series.
• 52:19
  SPEAKER_07: So I I don't know what the I mean, I don't know what the like you can complain about the Pirates all you want, but there's big money teams that don't do much better.
• 52:28
  SPEAKER_07: The Anaheim Angels or California Angels or whatever they're called this week are spend a crap ton of money and will they have one World Series?
• 52:38
  SPEAKER_03: I bet they have a guy that knows the roles of first base.
• 52:45
  SPEAKER_03: I'd be willing to bet that.
• 52:48
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, this this play this play should be really forever.
• 52:50
  SPEAKER_03: It's just to your point about like you you still could have got him out after all that.
• 52:56
  SPEAKER_07: Well, that's what this is unbelievable.
• 52:58
  SPEAKER_07: Just to chase him, like I just would have stood there, like, and let him run.
• 53:02
  SPEAKER_07: And like just just stand there and like two feet away, like literally walk one footstep away and let him just let him run.
• 53:09
  SPEAKER_07: I just sit there and watched him when I watched it.
• 53:11
  SPEAKER_07: That would have been the best thing to do, and just like let him run around like an idiot.
• 53:15
  SPEAKER_07: And when he starts to come back, just stare at him.
• 53:18
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, you've wasted everybody's time.
• 53:21
  SPEAKER_07: I'm just gonna stand there until you make up your mind and let you run yourself dragged, and yeah.
• 53:27
  SPEAKER_07: That would have been the best thing to do.
• 53:29
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but that would require Will Craig actually knowing you know how to play his position.
• 53:34
  SPEAKER_07: Well, he panicked.
• 53:35
  SPEAKER_07: He obviously panicked, and then he really panicked when he saw the guy come home and touch home plate and not realize that that and that rule did confuse me for the longest time.
• 53:45
  SPEAKER_07: Like I could never remember like when people would score and when it count until somebody explained it doesn't count until you're safely at first.
• 53:55
  SPEAKER_03: All right, number 11 on the list.
• 53:57
  SPEAKER_03: I actually don't have audio for this one, and I won't even tell you how much time I wasted trying to find it, but if it's out there, it's well hidden.
• 54:04
  SPEAKER_03: It's the first round of the 1972 NHL playoffs.
• 54:09
  SPEAKER_03: The Penguins are playing the Chicago Blackhawks.
• 54:12
  SPEAKER_03: Both of those teams back then were in the old West division in the NHL.
• 54:17
  SPEAKER_03: And Chicago had won the West Division that year.
• 54:20
  SPEAKER_03: They were they were a powerhouse, and the Penguins went 26 and 38 and still qualify for the playoffs.
• 54:28
  SPEAKER_03: Because back then there weren't that many teams, and as long as you were just a little bit better than some of the really, really awful teams, you made it to the playoffs.
• 54:37
  SPEAKER_03: So this is a pretty good mismatch.
• 54:39
  SPEAKER_03: A 26 and 38 penguins team playing uh a really good Chicago team.
• 54:44
  SPEAKER_03: And and sure enough, the Blackhawks do win the first three games of the series, but the the Pens are really putting up a good fight.
• 54:51
  SPEAKER_03: Um, everybody, well, if you read sort of the media accounts back then, everybody's really surprised at how hard the Penguins are fighting.
• 54:58
  SPEAKER_03: All three of those games are pretty close.
• 55:01
  SPEAKER_03: And it's coming back to the Civic Arena for game four, and the Pens are hoping obviously to avoid a sweep, but you know, maybe if they can just get a win, uh that can spark something, and maybe they can get a second win in game five and build off of that, and who knows what happens, right?
• 55:16
  SPEAKER_03: So the the penguins are just trying to salvage a series at this point.
• 55:20
  SPEAKER_03: And uh it's it's a it's a really good, it's another game where the penguins are up for the challenge.
• 55:25
  SPEAKER_03: Uh they really battle Chicago hard, and the game goes into overtime, tied five to five.
• 55:31
  SPEAKER_03: And right at the start of overtime, Jim Papen for Chicago shoots the puck at the Penguins' net, and Penguins goaltender Jim Rutherford, yes, that Jim Rutherford, makes the save with his chest, but the puck bounces to his left and he dives to try to cover it, but at that point there's there's a scrum of other guys right next to the net.
• 55:54
  SPEAKER_03: So now all of a sudden there's just a melee of everybody trying to get to the puck around the side of the net.
• 56:00
  SPEAKER_03: And one of the guys in the middle of that mess was Penguins defenseman Tim Horton.
• 56:04
  SPEAKER_03: Yes, that Tim Horton, uh Hall of Fame player and founder of the restaurant.
• 56:09
  SPEAKER_03: You may have had a a donut and a cup of coffee at his restaurant at some point in time.
• 56:14
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, he's one of the guys uh in a penguins uniform that's that's near the puck.
• 56:18
  SPEAKER_03: Uh Horton at this point, he's 42 years old.
• 56:21
  SPEAKER_03: He's definitely in the twilight of his career.
• 56:23
  SPEAKER_03: But the penguins had picked him up.
• 56:26
  SPEAKER_07: 42 years old.
• 56:28
  SPEAKER_03: 42.
• 56:29
  SPEAKER_03: He's still playing, and and the penguins had picked him up actually that season.
• 56:33
  SPEAKER_03: That was his first season with the penguins because they wanted that veteran leadership presence.
• 56:38
  SPEAKER_03: And somehow in the mess of guys, Horton accidentally kicks the puck into his own net, and that ends the game, and that ends the season.
• 56:49
  SPEAKER_03: And and you know, again, probably another situation like some of the ones we mentioned earlier, where the Pittsburgh team, you know, it was unlikely that they were going to win anyway.
• 57:00
  SPEAKER_03: But, you know, uh when the season ends with you kicking the puck into your own net, I have to I have to put it at number 11.
• 57:09
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, that was that was pretty bad.
• 57:11
  SPEAKER_03: And and it wasn't like he did it on purpose.
• 57:13
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, it was just everybody trying to get to the puck, and he just he just kicked it with his skate and it goes into the net.
• 57:20
  SPEAKER_03: So pretty unfortunate.
• 57:21
  SPEAKER_03: That ends up being Horton's last ever game with the Penguins.
• 57:25
  SPEAKER_03: He signs with Buffalo the next year and then tragically is killed in a car accident in 1974.
• 57:32
  SPEAKER_07: Now, I now was that his only year with the Penguins?
• 57:35
  SPEAKER_07: I didn't know Tim Horton actually played for the Penguins.
• 57:38
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, that was his only year with the Penguins.
• 57:40
  SPEAKER_07: So so you could say he had a cup of coffee in Pittsburgh?
• 57:44
  SPEAKER_03: Oh that joke.
• 57:47
  SPEAKER_03: That's good.
• 57:48
  SPEAKER_03: Now wait a minute.
• 57:49
  SPEAKER_07: Has Tim Hortons been around since 1974?
• 57:53
  SPEAKER_07: I I guess so.
• 57:54
  SPEAKER_07: Did somebody just like find I mean, did just somebody just found like a copy and donut shop and like, what do we name it, eh?
• 58:01
  SPEAKER_07: No, no, no.
• 58:01
  SPEAKER_07: Name it after that uh Horton guy, eh?
• 58:04
  SPEAKER_03: No, Tim Tim Horton started the restaurant.
• 58:06
  SPEAKER_03: Play pretty well for Toronto, eh?
• 58:08
  SPEAKER_07: Well, I I think So while owning a coffee and donut restaurant in Toronto, he decides to play more hockey.
• 58:16
  SPEAKER_03: Well, well, remember like Rod Woodson?
• 58:19
  SPEAKER_03: Well, remember like Rod Woodson had a restaurant in Station Square, and and even after he left Pittsburgh, that restaurant was still there.
• 58:26
  SPEAKER_03: And and I don't know if Tim Horton You know, it it it just it became a chain, and I don't know how big it was at the time of his death, but I mean it's it's still around today, and and there's even you know, there's mostly in Canada, but there's there's still a lot of them here in the States.
• 58:42
  SPEAKER_03: So I I I went to one in Detroit one time.
• 58:45
  SPEAKER_07: It's not that great.
• 58:47
  SPEAKER_07: It's it's a ca it's a it's a glorified Dunkin' Donuts.
• 58:50
  SPEAKER_07: There's there's one in uh Washington, PA No offense to Tim Horton.
• 58:54
  SPEAKER_07: Oh, is there?
• 58:55
  SPEAKER_03: I did not know that yeah, so there is one in our area.
• 58:58
  SPEAKER_03: Channeling my inner Johnny Carson, I did not know that.
• 59:03
  SPEAKER_03: I actually I know that because I have a gift card to a Tim Hortons, and I don't remember how I ended up getting one.
• 59:10
  SPEAKER_03: And and I've never used it because there aren't that many around here.
• 59:14
  SPEAKER_03: But anyway, yeah, Tim Horton kicks the puck into his own net, and that ends that ends the 1972 season for the pens.
• 59:22
  SPEAKER_07: Our famous uh, you know, coffee restaurantur.
• 59:26
  SPEAKER_07: Do too well.
• 59:28
  SPEAKER_07: Nope.
• 59:29
  SPEAKER_07: There is a picture of him.
• 59:30
  SPEAKER_07: Have you ever been in Tim Hortons?
• 59:32
  SPEAKER_07: There is a picture of him in like I think it's the Maple.
• 59:34
  SPEAKER_07: I think he he was big in he played most of his career with Toronto.
• 59:37
  SPEAKER_07: Correct.
• 59:38
  SPEAKER_07: Correct.
• 59:38
  SPEAKER_07: If I remember correctly, yeah.
• 59:40
  SPEAKER_07: And there's like a picture of him in like a maple leaf's uniform.
• 59:42
  SPEAKER_07: It's like, oh, it's Tim Horton.
• 59:44
  SPEAKER_07: Sweet.
• 59:46
  SPEAKER_03: All right, folks.
• 59:47
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• 59:51
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• 59:52
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• 59:55
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