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Personal Data Online | L.A Fires: One Year Later w/ Michael Monks · The Bill Handel Show

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  Speaker 1: You're listenings kf I AM six forty the Bill Handles
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  Speaker 2: Buty F I AM six forty Bill Handle here on
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  Speaker 2: a Tuesday morning, January sixth As we continue on, By
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  Speaker 2: the way, Anne, are we doing ask Handle Anything this week?
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  Speaker 3: Because Neil normally chooses selects the questions, and are you
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  Speaker 3: going to be doing that?
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  Speaker 4: I can let me look into what we got. Oh no,
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  Speaker 4: I'm here.
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  Speaker 3: We can do the holidays. So again I'm just saying,
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  Speaker 3: are we going to even do it? And I guess
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  Speaker 3: we will? And then and will be Neil because Neil
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  Speaker 3: is not here and therefore here's the equation and is Neil?
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  Speaker 4: And is here therefore and not Neil. That's that's geometry.
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  Speaker 3: In any case, Ask Handle Anything, you record him, You
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  Speaker 3: record the questions, and what ends up happening is the
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  Speaker 3: questions are selected the ones that embarrass me the most,
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  Speaker 3: and we play them on Friday at eight thirty the
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  Speaker 3: Ask Candle Anything segment and I answer them a hearing
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  Speaker 3: ten to fifteen seconds to ask your question. And if
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  Speaker 3: I answer it, but you also win absolutely nothing. And
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  Speaker 3: that's the kind of questions. Those are the contests that
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  Speaker 3: I like the most. Now, California, forty million of us,
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  Speaker 3: we have a reputation. California has a reputation of not
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  Speaker 3: only the most liberal state by far, but at the
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  Speaker 3: forefront of change, cultural change, and consumer protection. If here's
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  Speaker 3: another one that just came down the pike because under
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  Speaker 3: a California law they just kicked in, we will be
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  Speaker 3: able to use a permanent deleet button on the various
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  Speaker 3: websites and browsers that we use, and it's going to
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  Speaker 3: protect us from personal data that is sold or used
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  Speaker 3: by various advertisers. So on New Year's Day, there's a
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  Speaker 3: new government website that opened up and what it does
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  Speaker 3: is demand and force five hundred intermediaries, data brokers who
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  Speaker 3: pick up your data and turn around and sell it,
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  Speaker 3: and they have to wipe out your personal information from
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  Speaker 3: the data on sale and repeat those deletions regularly. And
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  Speaker 3: it's available only to California residents. We'll see what happens
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  Speaker 3: in the other states. And here's the always talked about
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  Speaker 3: this before. So much of your personal information is amassed
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  Speaker 3: by so many companies that effectively we have no privacy.
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  Speaker 3: That's and getting rid of it. I mean, you can
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  Speaker 3: do it, but you have to be very savvy.
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  Speaker 4: It takes long. It takes a long time. You have
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  Speaker 4: to know what you're doing. Well. This makes it easy.
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  Speaker 3: This is going to be a delete button to protect
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  Speaker 3: your information somewhat. As of right now, I can get
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  Speaker 3: you can get from me where I live, where I work.
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  Speaker 4: I mean that's easy. Where I have.
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  Speaker 3: Lived, what my Social Security number is, members of my family,
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  Speaker 3: where they live, the jobs they have, the jobs I've had,
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  Speaker 3: names of my kids, what they do, which, by the way,
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  Speaker 3: there's a on that what your kids do. There's also
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  Speaker 3: button that you can press that says nothing, and there
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  Speaker 3: are it's all kinds of personal information that is being used.
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  Speaker 3: The pop up ads that come in all the time
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  Speaker 3: based on your research, based on what you like.
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  Speaker 4: Well, that's all available and is being sold.
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  Speaker 3: To these data brokers, or the data brokers are collecting
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  Speaker 3: them and selling them to insurance companies, to advertisers, to
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  Speaker 3: governmental agencies in some cases. And you don't even know
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  Speaker 3: that it's happening. Well, now the law says, you bet you,
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  Speaker 3: it's happening. And so our consumer protection laws have been
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  Speaker 3: passed ay way. This passed in twenty twenty three, and
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  Speaker 3: there's a mandate of a US data privacy history.
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  Speaker 4: There since then.
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  Speaker 3: And now the single website has become law.
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  Speaker 4: It's the Delete Act. And here's what you do. It's there,
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  Speaker 4: it's available.
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  Speaker 3: And this is an article out of Washington Post in
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  Speaker 3: which the author actually used this.
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  Speaker 4: You go to the data broker deletion website. It's there.
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  Speaker 3: You can do an app search on that verify you're
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  Speaker 3: a California resident through a digital identification service that they have.
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  Speaker 3: Then you enter your basic information name, variations of your name,
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  Speaker 3: date of birth, email address, phone number, and that's it
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  Speaker 3: and they have to verify who you are. And once
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  Speaker 3: they do that and use a delete button, that is
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  Speaker 3: going to remove the vast, vast majority of information that
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  Speaker 3: is being sold about you, and data brokers have basically
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  Speaker 3: until the middle of September to act on these deletion
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  Speaker 3: requests because there's a lot of technology involved in this.
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  Speaker 3: And after that there's face daily fines for each unfilled
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  Speaker 3: deletion demand. Now that could be in the millions of
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  Speaker 3: dollars per day. So that's kind of important and that's
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  Speaker 3: going to make them wake up, that's for sure. Now
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  Speaker 3: the data broker deliation deletions won't scrub everything. Uh you know,
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  Speaker 3: for example, voter registration, property records. Uh do you know
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  Speaker 3: why that won't be scrubbed because those are public documents,
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  Speaker 3: that's why.
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  Speaker 4: And that makes sense.
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  Speaker 3: So here we are at the forefront of this and
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  Speaker 3: that's kind of a neat idea. So and they don't
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  Speaker 3: have to You don't have to tell them anymore that
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  Speaker 3: you that you choose you choose paper or plastic at
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  Speaker 3: the supermarket, because of course it's only paper.
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  Speaker 4: Now we knew that now. Uh.
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  Speaker 3: Something I always talk about is home ownership, and it
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  Speaker 3: is home ownership is something that was the end all
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  Speaker 3: be all as I.
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  Speaker 4: Was growing up.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, that was the holy grail of financial stability. Well,
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  Speaker 3: it's tougher today, way tougher today. Home affordability is increasingly
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  Speaker 3: out of reach. So there was a study that was
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  Speaker 3: done about homeowners and home UH and UH home afford ability,
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  Speaker 3: and it was done by some economists doctoral candidates out
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  Speaker 3: of north Western University, and it talked about how people
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  Speaker 3: who cannot afford homes, how they act, and how they
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  Speaker 3: spend and what they do in society economically. These are
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  Speaker 3: economists sing Hung Yong Lie, economists Jung Yun Yo, and
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  Speaker 3: a third No House Yu. Well, actually he is not
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  Speaker 3: part of this study. He dropped out fairly early on.
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  Speaker 3: And they built a mathematical model. And here's the bottom line.
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  Speaker 3: And I didn't even think about this, but it makes sense.
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  Speaker 3: People conclude that if they're never able to afford a home,
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  Speaker 3: that translates into putting less effort into their jobs.
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  Speaker 4: They tend to spend.
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  Speaker 3: More on luxuries, do less long term savings, and are
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  Speaker 3: more likely to invest in risk your assets like a
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  Speaker 3: cryptocurrent season.
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  Speaker 4: I think about this.
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  Speaker 3: I imagine that if you couldn't afford a home, you
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  Speaker 3: just rented, Okay, life is over in terms of ownership,
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  Speaker 3: with penty of people who just rent and they move on.
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  Speaker 3: Oh no, it is far much farther reaches than that,
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  Speaker 3: because it literally changes.
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  Speaker 4: The way these folks live.
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  Speaker 3: Now. I've been a homeowner since I've been in my twenties.
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  Speaker 3: But then again, in my twenties, you could actually afford
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  Speaker 3: a home today. Well I just for example, Soul of
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  Speaker 3: the Persian Palace. I would never be able to move
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  Speaker 3: into that place. I couldn't buy it today. It's just impossible.
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  Speaker 4: And that's what homes are about.
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  Speaker 3: Those people that are selling their home, they're moving out,
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  Speaker 3: they're looking at spending insane amounts of money just to
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  Speaker 3: move into another place. I mean, it just changes your
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  Speaker 3: life completely. And so here's a stat. Eighty four percent
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  Speaker 3: of the people born in nineteen fifty became homeowners at
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  Speaker 3: some point in their lives. Okay, eighty four percent born
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  Speaker 3: in nineteen ninety seventy four percent. That's a ten percent drop.
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  Speaker 3: And we just do things that are very different. That's
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  Speaker 3: not just not buying a home or not being able
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  Speaker 3: to afford a home.
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  Speaker 4: It's anticipating that you.
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  Speaker 3: Will never own a home, and at that moment, your
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  Speaker 3: life changes. And then it had to do with and
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  Speaker 3: then they went on. It's a little bit more wonky
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  Speaker 3: than that. They tracked five hundred thousand Americans since twenty fourteen,
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  Speaker 3: and they discovered that renters within the top income earning
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  Speaker 3: more than seventy five hundred dollars a month on average,
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  Speaker 3: they pulled back on credit card spending, especially on luxuries
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  Speaker 3: and non necessities. People in the lowest twenty percent earning
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  Speaker 3: less than three thousand dollars a month. That exactly the opposite.
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  Speaker 3: They up their credit card spending. They upped spending money
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  Speaker 3: whatever they had disposable money on vacations.
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  Speaker 4: So it's exactly opposite of what you think.
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  Speaker 3: Now there are some economists that say, no, it's way
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  Speaker 3: more complicated than that, because you have to put into
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  Speaker 3: account saving for kids, going to school, activities with your kids,
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  Speaker 3: for example, going to Disneyland and Amy. We can talk
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  Speaker 3: about that because what happens today, Well, you go to well,
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  Speaker 3: for example, vacation, you go to Florida and you spend
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  Speaker 3: a week in Florida with your family in Orlando at
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  Speaker 3: a Disney resort property. That is one of those bucket
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  Speaker 3: lists you save up for years and years to do. That.
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  Speaker 4: Didn used to be that way.
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  Speaker 3: Family of four going to Disneyland today can spend eight
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  Speaker 3: hundred dollars for the day.
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  Speaker 4: So luxuries are far.
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  Speaker 3: More expensive, and people who have decided that they're never
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  Speaker 3: going to be able to own a home, they're spending
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  Speaker 3: money on that. And the net worth falling below three
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  Speaker 3: hundred thousand dollars. And that's basically where homeowners where people say, okay,
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  Speaker 3: I can afford a home, I'll be able to buy
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  Speaker 3: a home, or even anticipating buying a home. That's where
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  Speaker 3: the that's where critical mass seems to be at three
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  Speaker 3: hundred grand net worth.
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  Speaker 4: And so what are.
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  Speaker 3: This is where you've got these these researchers Not only
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  Speaker 3: do they come up with the stats, they also come
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  Speaker 3: up with some proposals that the US government considered grants
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  Speaker 3: for people who are close to giving up, arguing that
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  Speaker 3: it could help them on the path to home ownership.
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  Speaker 3: And is that going to happen anytime in life? No,
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  Speaker 3: of course not. And so there is a company down
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  Speaker 3: payment resources. Strangely enough, it helps connect prospective home buyers
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  Speaker 3: with aid programs that are out there. Say that this
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  Speaker 3: economist suggestion sounds a lot like low or no interest
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  Speaker 3: loans that are already offered to qualified first time buyers.
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  Speaker 3: And according to the CEO, there is plenty of money
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  Speaker 3: twenty six hundred programs across the country, and the CEO said,
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  Speaker 3: I don't think we need more programs. We need to
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  Speaker 3: do a better job of communicating the programs. How are
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  Speaker 3: you going to feel if you have decided you can't
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  Speaker 3: afford a home and you have spent all the money
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  Speaker 3: on what you shouldn't have spend because you're never gonna
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  Speaker 3: have to own it. You're never going to own a home.
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  Speaker 3: You don't have to worry about mortgage, so you're oh.
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  Speaker 3: The other thing is you're not motivated as much at work.
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  Speaker 3: That's another part of the study. You don't work as
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  Speaker 3: hard as you would if you were a homeowner or
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  Speaker 3: saving for a home. Keep in mind this again when
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  Speaker 3: I reiterate, this is only for people who have given
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  Speaker 3: up the hope of buying a house.
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  Speaker 4: And I get this constantly. I get it from my daughters.
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  Speaker 3: I even get it from Lindsey who say, you know,
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  Speaker 3: you baby boomers, you've ruined.
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  Speaker 4: It for all of us.
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  Speaker 3: And I guess, to the extent we have, or we
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  Speaker 3: just took advantage of what our circumstances we were. We
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  Speaker 3: went to college, you got a good job immediately after college,
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  Speaker 3: you didn't have to worry about it. You wanted a house,
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  Speaker 3: You could probably afford a house. You wanted good money
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  Speaker 3: for what you worked for.
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  Speaker 4: You were able to do that.
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  Speaker 3: Life was a lot simpler financially than it is today today,
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  Speaker 3: obviously much much more complicated.
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  Speaker 4: Most people want a home.
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  Speaker 3: Very few renders don't want a home until they sit
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  Speaker 3: down and really figure out what does home ownership actually
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  Speaker 3: cost you? A whole lot. I mean, that's a real commitment,
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  Speaker 3: that's real dedication. So if you are a renter and
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  Speaker 3: you've given up, the bottom line, according to the study
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  Speaker 3: that was just done by these economists is you're gonna
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  Speaker 3: work less.
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  Speaker 4: You're not gonna work as hard.
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  Speaker 3: You're gonna spend more money going to Disneyland than you
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  Speaker 3: normally would. You are not going to put money for
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  Speaker 3: your kids' education as much as you would because, frankly,
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  Speaker 3: if you're a renter, you just don't care about life.
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  Speaker 4: Now, Amy, you rent, right, Well, yes, I rent, but
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  Speaker 4: I also I own a home. Oh I just not here. Okay,
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  Speaker 4: So wow, so you're half depressed. Oh I'm mostly depressed. Yeah, okay, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: you work here, that's true.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, cono, you're a renter right, Oh yeah, okay, so
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  Speaker 3: do you do you contemplate suicide every day because you're
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  Speaker 3: never gonna be able to afford a home. And and
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  Speaker 3: by the way, is as much joking as I do.
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  Speaker 3: Your wife is an RN correct, and she makes very
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  Speaker 3: good money because our ring is due.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, very good money. Well there you go. And are
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  Speaker 4: you an anticipator of owning a home? Yeah, we'll get there. Okay,
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  Speaker 4: you say, okay, then you.
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  Speaker 3: Are in that category where you do live a life
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  Speaker 3: that you're not spending money on what is considered for qualities.
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  Speaker 3: And I know Anne owns a home, so she's out
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  Speaker 3: of the picture. And will do you rent or do
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  Speaker 3: you live in a tent?
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  Speaker 4: What do you actually? I currently rent. I've owned a
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  Speaker 4: condo before.
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  Speaker 5: And I just got to say, even if you own something,
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  Speaker 5: you're still I mean, really, it's the banks you're paying
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  Speaker 5: the bank you're it's it's almost like renting.
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  Speaker 3: That's a good point, you know that, that is a
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  Speaker 3: decent point. I mean, to really own a home is
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  Speaker 3: to have no mortgage. Yep, that's owning a home. However,
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  Speaker 3: you're still paying for the privilege of owning a home
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  Speaker 3: with these ridiculous property taxes.
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  Speaker 4: Welcome to California.
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  Speaker 3: Now I want to talk to you about how our
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  Speaker 3: lives are going to be affected, and not in a
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  Speaker 3: good way. GPS systems and we rely on these GPS systems.
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  Speaker 3: Matter of fact, six billion people, businesses and governments use
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  Speaker 3: GPS and why are they so critical? Well, here's an example.
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  Speaker 3: Pilots flying into Denver International Airport. It just happened recently,
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  Speaker 3: reported to the GPS positioning system that they used to
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  Speaker 3: navigate when haywire and they had to go to a
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  Speaker 3: backup system for more than a day. And the FAA, well,
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  Speaker 3: they issued warnings to air traffic in the entire area.
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  Speaker 3: In October of twenty twenty two, at Dallas Fort Worth
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  Speaker 3: International they shut down a runway as pilots, air traffic
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  Speaker 3: controllers scrambled for over two two.
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  Speaker 4: Days without GPS.
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  Speaker 3: Now, the FEDS haven't said who is responsible or I
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  Speaker 3: took so long to get back online, although they did
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  Speaker 3: say this was unintentional. And that's the problem because GPS
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  Speaker 3: systems are vulnerable. They're vulnerable on not only two hackers,
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  Speaker 3: state sponsored hackers. Now, I literally was it in China.
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  Speaker 3: I believe is where we read about there's a building
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  Speaker 3: in China, an entire building staffed by hundreds of people,
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  Speaker 3: and their job is to hack into our financial and
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  Speaker 3: governmental systems. That's what they do. That's their job, and
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  Speaker 3: we're vulnerable. I mean, look at these disruptions. And now
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  Speaker 3: there's a few different kinds of people who do this.
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  Speaker 3: Number one, the state sponsored ones. These are a lot
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  Speaker 3: of them come from Russia with interference with our election.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my god, no that didn't happen. Also, you're talking
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  Speaker 3: about governments that are not on our friendly list. But
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  Speaker 3: you also have private criminals, and we've seen this before
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  Speaker 3: where you have municipalities and hospitals for example, they're hacked
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  Speaker 3: and virus were inserted. This is all done through the Internet,
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  Speaker 3: and they have to pay money, they have to pay
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  Speaker 3: ransomware to allow their system to work again.
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  Speaker 4: And then there are people that just do it for fun.
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  Speaker 4: They just do it for fun.
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  Speaker 3: And let me give go back a little bit of history,
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  Speaker 3: before hackers even existed, what they used to do, and
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  Speaker 3: Steven Jobs did this is as a kid and I
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  Speaker 3: had friends that did this. What they would do is
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  Speaker 3: buy is build something called a blue box and the
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  Speaker 3: phone system.
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  Speaker 4: Was set on these frequencies.
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  Speaker 3: In other words, you know, had the roto dial system
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  Speaker 3: that connected.
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  Speaker 4: With and.
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  Speaker 3: Oh god, there's a word there, analogy not analogy, What
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  Speaker 3: am I looking for?
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  Speaker 4: Analog? There you go handle working on analog systems.
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  Speaker 3: And then you had the new system that came into
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  Speaker 3: being with the phone systems where it was electronic and
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  Speaker 3: it was on a high pitched signal, it was a frequency. Well,
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  Speaker 3: what they did with these blue boxes was build these
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  Speaker 3: systems that could mimic the frequencies.
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  Speaker 4: And I remember, I remember one of the.
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  Speaker 3: Guys would be built a blue box and was able
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  Speaker 3: to call number in the house. They had two lines,
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  Speaker 3: was able to call the other line by sending the
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  Speaker 3: signal around the world.
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  Speaker 4: You talk about long distance calls.
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  Speaker 3: And that was the beginning, certainly in my crew of
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  Speaker 3: the hacking world. Amateurs said, well, of course, then went
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  Speaker 3: into the computer world and it was so been around
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  Speaker 3: for a long time. So there are a lot of
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  Speaker 3: hackers out there that go into these systems just sort
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  Speaker 3: of approve they can. Well, when you go into a
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  Speaker 3: GPS system, now that gets really dangerous. Why is that
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  Speaker 3: Because entire municipalities have water systems are electronic are electrical systems.
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  Speaker 3: The grid is powered by the internet. Finance is powered
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  Speaker 3: by the Internet.
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  Speaker 4: You keep money in the bank. Guess what that's all
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  Speaker 4: controlled by the Internet, and GPS is, well, it is.
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  Speaker 3: You'd be surprised how many industries and governmental entities rely
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  Speaker 3: on GPS in and of itself.
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  Speaker 4: Well, here's a great story I want to share with you.
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  Speaker 3: That the US has a GPS system, and you think
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  Speaker 3: it'd be international GPS, that everybody would use the same GPS.
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely not.
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  Speaker 3: Europe operates its own GPS system, Russia operates its own
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  Speaker 3: GPS system.
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  Speaker 4: China does.
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  Speaker 3: China, by the way, has more satellites in orbit than
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  Speaker 3: any other country, and it reached global coverage in twenty twenty.
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  Speaker 4: It's called the bay Do system I think I pronounced it.
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  Speaker 3: And the reason that China is becoming so successful at
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  Speaker 3: all of this because China wants to become one of
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  Speaker 3: the world's great power superpowers, and it's moving enormously fast
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  Speaker 3: to do that. So next time you're on an airplane,
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: I just want to point out that if someone hacks
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: the GPS system, which is controlling where the plane is going,
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  Speaker 3: there's a very good chance that the plane can't land.
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  Speaker 3: It'll be flying around that will run out of fuel
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  Speaker 3: and they're going to crash and you're going to die.
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  Speaker 3: Oh okay, so much for that. It's an up Tuesday.
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: Why not? Okay?
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: Now, Michael Monks is with us, Michael who is a
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: KFI reporter, and he covered the fires, the La fires.
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  Speaker 4: This is a year later, and there's a special that
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: is going to.
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  Speaker 3: Be broadcast tomorrow night at seven pm here on KFI.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, Michael, you covered the fires.
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  Speaker 3: I mean you were there on top of them, going
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: from location to location. So I talk about what we're
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: going to hear tomorrow night.
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  Speaker 5: Well, it's been a year since those devastating wildfires took
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: over LA County, eliminating major parts of Pacific Palisades, Alta, Dina,
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: parts of Malibu, and there were other fires as well.
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: We forget that it wasn't just the Palisades, it wasn't
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: just the Eating Fire. There were a lot of fires
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: going on, and a lot of damage was suffered, and
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: not just physical damage. People are still dealing with the
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: emotional and mental fallout from that. So our special tomorrow
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: night will focus on a variety of those things. And
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: I apologize I'm in downtown LA. So you're going to
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: hear some of the ambient noise of downtown Los Angeles,
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: including some of the sirens, and goodness knows, there were
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: plenty of those during the wildfires.
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: So we're looking at what happened.
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: By the way, excellent segue. How you connected those two.
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: I must tell you I should get into broadcast. Yeah,
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: this is why you get paid the big bucks because
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: you were able to take that and move And I'm thinking, oh, wow,
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: that wasn't bad.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, I'm sorry interrupted.
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah, just saying that there's you're dealing with the fire
• 23:21
  Speaker 5: at the moment, but it it's so much work in
• 23:26
  Speaker 5: the aftermath of it, and how that work has gone
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: is one of our focuses for Tomorrow night. How people
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: are feeling a year later later, just in general, that's
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: a focus tomorrow. The obstacles they're facing and trying to
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: rebuild their homes and their lives, the federal investigation from
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: lawmakers who are not who are not even from California.
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: We talked to Florida Senator Rick Scott about that. That's
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: going to be here and Amy King is also featured
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: in this special as she revisits the Dream Center which
• 23:53
  Speaker 5: was so helpful during the fire. We talked to them
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: one year later about their recollections.
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: Of that event.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, let me ask you a couple questions first, and
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: first of all, of course, you covered what was actually
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: happening and the people that were being affected, as well
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: as what was going on at that moment in terms
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: of the fire. But were you able to get information
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: or were able to notice what people were thinking looking
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: like with fire men and women, with firefighters looking at
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: where they ran out of water at that moment?
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: What was the response to that?
• 24:30
  Speaker 5: From what you saw, there seems to be official dispute
• 24:35
  Speaker 5: over what happened with water with resources, and that's not
• 24:40
  Speaker 5: going to be wrapped up tomorrow night. That's not going
• 24:42
  Speaker 5: to be wrapped up for some time. You can expect
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: litigation to continue. You know the law very well. I mean,
• 24:47
  Speaker 5: there are folks in the Palisades who are hosting a
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: protest or a rally or a remembrance, however you want
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: to characterize it, tomorrow morning, and they've called this thing
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: they let us burn. So that should get you an
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: indication of the feelings around the response. You have a
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: fire chief in the city of Los Angeles who was
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: fired by the mayor over the response to the fire.
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: But you have a new fire chief who has disputed
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: some reporting by the La Times that there were firefighters
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: on the scene of what would later become the Palisades
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: fire seeing this earlier fire, the Lockman fire, This thing's
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: not out. Why are we leaving? He disputes that these
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: text messages exist. So there's a lot of confusion, a
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: lot of dispute, and we're probably not going to know
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: all of the answers for quite some time.
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: The bottom line is, have the authorities done a decent job?
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: What grade do you give the fire department, the city,
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: the insurance companies. It's all over the place, everything from
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: an F to and A plus, depending on which insurance
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: company you're dealing with.
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: So talked to residents of the Palisades, If you talk
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: to residents of Alta Dina, if they were handing out scorecards,
• 25:56
  Speaker 5: I don't think anybody would score higher than a DP plus.
• 25:58
  Speaker 5: I mean, there are some local elected officials that might
• 26:01
  Speaker 5: receive higher marks than others, but cumulatively, the response has
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: not been adequate enough. And it's not just local officials.
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: I mean, when you're talking about the insurance situation that's
• 26:11
  Speaker 5: mostly a state issue, and there are folks who are saying,
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: we can't get insurance, or we can get insurance but
• 26:17
  Speaker 5: it's not enough, or we can get insurance and it's
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: way too expensive. The fallout from this is not wrapping
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: up anytime soon, no kidding.
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: All right, Michael.
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: That'll be tomorrow night at seven o'clock right here on KFI,
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: and it's not to be missed. I have a good one,
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: go and report on something.
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: Thanks Bill. Okay, this is KFI AM six point forty.
• 26:41
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