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Hamster Extra - Neighbours (featuring Mark Rawlins) · A Hamster With a Blunt Penknife - a Doctor Who Commentary podcast

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  Welcome back to hamster with a blunt.
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  Penknife the Doctor Who non commentary podcast, which we're
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  calling an extra slice. Oh, that's a good.
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  Thank you. I'm Joe.
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  And I'm here today with my special guest star star of to
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  watch who mr. Mark Rollins.
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  Hello, hello. You've done a few of these now
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  Avenue. Yes, you have.
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  And perhaps I'm asking everybody to do this but you could occur
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  Explain the premise of this. Members-only bonus, podcasts
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  that we're doing so off. You go explain the premise?
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  Yeah, well we're talking about other television shows aren't
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  we? That's right.
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  Why do you look so scared? Well?
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  Now, because something is right? Yeah, well that it was gonna be
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  like folks so it's bring it in. Established hamster contributors
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  and asking them to choose a television show and bear in
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  mind, this is can be from any television show for our history.
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  So what they choose to is very personal to them, I would like
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  to make that very clear before we go into the episode we're
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  ads. Do now any TV show?
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  It could have been and we talked about the show is on overview
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  and then we'd select five or six different episodes and we'll do
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  commentaries on those. So it gives you a good Overview
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  of the series and then a good example of episodes from it.
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  So mark Why don't you tell everybody the show that you
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  chosen? Well I have chosen the
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  Australian soap. Opera Neighbours.
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  The wackiest choice of my advice first head that I'm doing of
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  this straight. Can I ask you a question?
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  Yep. When you could have chosen any
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  show why neighbors. It's do.
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  It it's got quite a parallel. If there is a some kind of Then
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  diagram out there of Doctor Who fans and neighbors fans, you
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  know. Okay.
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  What's a Venn diagram? It sounds very intelligent
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  anyway. It doesn't matter what that is.
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  Okay but you - I said they are very similar type very smart.
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  They're that's radical way to your argument.
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  So yes, it's it's really difficult to explain but the
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  reasons I like Kitt is it's it has that similar.
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  Like I'm not a fan of like other soaps or anything like that.
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  Do you get any unless you get people to watch all other
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  things? I don't watch by like continuing
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  TV drama series. Okay.
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  And I think as a doctor you fan you have that kind of Mind of
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  I've been interested in television production and
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  history. I think generally that is
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  something that always saddle fans of television programs,
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  enjoy and Neighbors Is a very long running continuing drama
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  series a bit like talk to who you have different theme Tunes
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  title sequences different cast coming back, different sort of
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  Errors of producers. It does have that similar
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  history? I still, what attracts me?
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  I mean I can go into it when I sort of watched as a child.
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  I think everybody maybe in the UK has watched a bit of
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  Neighbors at some point because it's such a big thing, I
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  definitely did. I think his reputation is very
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  different to what it Actually is, but I think that it's that
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  history and looking back and there's a bit of a fandom around
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  it as well that I've sort of been involved with as well.
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  So it's very it does have those parallels and I think there are
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  a lot of people on Twitter. There is that sort of neighbors
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  found group, but they're also there is a sort of a Doctor Who
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  and neighbors cross over there. I see a lot of people is do
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  enjoy that and it's different to like British soaps.
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  I've no, I don't really what, I've never really watched like
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  carnations here or anything like that.
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  I know their long-running as well.
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  And there's fans in that way, but there's something about the
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  sort of the production of it in the history of it.
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  I also enjoy as well as just watching it for some, great
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  drama and great television. You well quiet.
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  Yeah. And I think some like people
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  find neighbors it quite easy to Mark, I think.
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  But yes, because it's like a piece of a frame rates on early
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  in the evening, in the production value.
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  Even though I think the potential value got better and
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  best that, you know, it's essentially a wobbly wool soap,
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  isn't it? Essentially?
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  Yes. Yes, I know later on it was on
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  film and they made it look very filmic, but initially, it was, I
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  think this perception a bit like Doctor Who wobbly sets in the
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  60s getting parallel. And if you know the height of
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  when he was on like, maybe Tom Baker or even like Dalek Mania,
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  when everyone's like, oh everyone's probably watched an
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  episode of Doctor Who at some point at that time in the UK and
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  it's known for those sort of very few things.
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  I think, obviously doctor he's changed a little bit with a new
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  series, but Neighbors. I think has stayed in that 80s,
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  Maj Harold Kylie Minogue bubble and like when it was axed and it
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  was all the new sites everywhere and the BBC News did, they
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  always show bouncers wedding, which is a dog sweating, which
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  is a female dog and a, but, yeah, and it's just like, one
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  minute in the agent. I think that sums up.
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  How people look back on it, fondly, with Nostalgia.
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  Whereas, if maybe in the 90s, when, I'm talking about Doctor
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  Who they would show some terrible moment of like I do.
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  Martin clunes from snake. Yeah, yeah, exactly like that.
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  So, it's like that were actually, we know, as Doctor Who
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  fans were actually, the show has so many more different levels
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  and so much more into it. So, does Neighbors.
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  I feel and I think the, the scriptwriter towards the last
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  few years of when it was on currently it started looking
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  back, it has passed a bit like Doctor Who referencing things
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  from the heart bringing things back acknowledging.
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  Its Strain its Nostalgia, but also creating some great drama
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  looking forward. And the product as you say, the
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  production values got so much better.
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  It was a great, great drama. I think better than some British
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  TV because I watched soldiers in 90s.
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  Yes. Yeah.
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  It was still a bit of a wobbly wall.
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  So they're not, you know, they'd be having are currently slam a
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  door. Yeah.
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  And you the Dogwood and then I didn't watch it for years and
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  years and years and years and years until I met you.
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  And then I started watching neighbors, like 20 years later.
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  Oh God, what's this? Going to be like a long
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  lingering soap that's gone on forever and you put that episode
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  and also that was all done on film.
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  They want to location the whole episode.
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  You know, they've got this massive Vineyard that they're
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  going to like, these are absolutely beautiful location.
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  I'm like, okay, so they're actually pouring some proper
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  money into it by the end. Maybe my led to it being
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  canceled, you know, maybe they're spending a bit too much.
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  Well, I think it was the longest running continuing drama in
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  Australia, at least and it's got I think Australia should be very
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  proud. Out of it, as easy as a Heritage
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  piece, I'm surprised no one in Australia plumped to to fund
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  that, but I don't see anybody watches.
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  It's the equivalent of you know talk to in 1989 probably over
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  over there commercially you know you said about the fandoms
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  right? Yeah.
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  And the different periods? Yeah they're like well we'll say
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  oh the great William Muir is my favorite, is there a bit of that
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  we're neighbors like you know older the so-and-so producer of
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  the 90s? Yeah.
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  I mean, I we all have our different like the different
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  sort of doctors so I've not I've not watched neighbors all the
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  way. Through, I've I started I did a
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  bit in the 90s sort of to mid-2000s, then I picked up
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  again, talk 2016 onwards. So I've got sort of missing
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  years, we all have Missing Years but talking to doctor, you don't
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  know, for Doctor Who, but for Neighbors.
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  Okay, so yeah, there's a sort of me, it sort of early 2000's,
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  there was a producer that made a lot came in made a lot of
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  changes that the fans really hated and she got rid of a lot
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  of old characters and made the big check.
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  So talking to fans, ya there, So now juices Susan Bower citizen
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  power. We're coming for you Susan.
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  Yeah, so I don't think she'll end up.
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  She decided to make it like you want to use it added a sort of
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  Youth element to it. If you want a bit more of a
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  teenager's 90210, Yang got rid of a lot of older characters and
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  made it. Yeah, so yeah, there are
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  different sort of Time Times within the, in the show.
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  And I think people again like dr.
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  Who have different sort of it errors errors.
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  Yeah. Yeah.
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  Race is. Yeah.
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  That they like, so it's really good fun.
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  Just to look back in history and yeah, like I said, the different
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  title sequences and the different theme tunes of what
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  they do, but it's always neighbors but it's just great to
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  look back or somebody that's dipped into neighbors.
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  Yeah, but has an experience of much as you have such as people
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  listen to this episode, possibly are there distinct eras that you
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  could sort of quantify like, yeah, like the 80s, the 90s, the
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  2000, I would break. Up in those decades.
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  So what? Yeah, so the 80s is where it
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  began and it was sort of like, you know, the ramseys.
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  And it was Scott and Charles it was very much in Harold.
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  I think a very smaller Ensemble, it just focused on these few
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  families and it and those early ones because they're out on DVD,
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  they're all on YouTube and Dailymotion and stuff and out
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  there. They're quite sort of
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  hard-hitting. Though, they don't treat the
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  women very well in. I know they sort of it is The
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  80s there, but the way that they talk to each other and some of
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  the story lines are quite gritty.
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  I've got a says it starts. It's quite kitchen sink drama
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  when it starts off, but I what I like about neighbors is you have
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  those moments, but you have the comedy storylines and you can
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  have the serious style episode. Yeah, you've got something
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  something quite dramatic happening and something
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  absolutely absurd. And there's someone who sort of
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  a different age to identify with in all the different as it goes
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  on. So go so occasionally the
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  Erratic things are the common defects.
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  Well, such as Therese hanging off the roof or Julie Martin's
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  death at the murder mystery party.
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  I think it. No.
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  But then towards the end, it also knew how to lean in and it
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  knew it was being ridiculous, but actually can get away with
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  it because actually, the activities is really good
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  throughout, I think, I think it's pretty strong, but to sum
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  up what I think, generally, people say, and if you think,
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  you know, listen to a thing about neighbors.
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  So for instance, I think the acting is really Great recently.
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  I was watching and I first started watching again.
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  There was this big storyline. It was very dramatic.
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  And Sarah came round. Yeah.
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  And I Sarah marks co-host from to watch her and I know she's
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  never watched neighbors. And I always told her about, all
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  my God, this is happening in Neighbors, this is happening in
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  neighbors and I said, oh, I'm just watching neighbors and she
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  looked at 1 second went. Oh my God, this is terrible.
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  Terrible act and this is awful and she's not even sat and
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  watched like one word of it. It's just you assume.
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  Neighbors, it's an Australian soap opera.
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  It's like, therefore, it's gonna be holding a terrible.
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  This is all terrible. And literally, like you've
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  literally, just looked at the TV screen when it's on.
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  You haven't even seen anything. As you know, what surprised me
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  was when, when you re introduced me to it and the first episode I
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  watch, it was about a polyamorous relationship.
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  Yeah. And these two gay guys, that had
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  a kid with this woman who's James daughter and there was all
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  this sort of very innovative, It kind of woke stuff going on and
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  I remember watching it and I'm going.
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  This is a bit much as it's all the bit greasy PC.
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  And then only took me about two or three episodes of watching
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  where I was like it quite as hooked into me again really
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  quickly. So, I think I don't like if
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  you're just seeing a snapshot of it.
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  Yeah. Oh God.
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  And it's difficult to introduce someone to a soap.
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  Like what? Clear if your episodes?
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  Yeah. But I think you can get into it,
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  but I think you need to. It's more of a stamina than just
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  a watch, this TV series, watch this finite.
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  Beginning an end, but I think you can gather b, or you
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  chimichanga episode. How the hell could you watch
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  Neighbors from beginning? How many episodes are there are
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  over 8,000 take you off your life.
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  You don't need to watch it or you can dip in and out.
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  I think I think you could probably watch a certain here.
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  There are about support, all of the episodes.
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  Think they're honest with streaming channel will be
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  Upstream. So I think hopefully they'll be
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  a Resurgence in interest. What has been great about
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  recently and what is great? Great about when you're a
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  regular Watcher is to see those arcs over a long period of time.
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  That's what you get with soap rather than your just genuine
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  series of drum. You can see things, how things
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  develop sometimes though, we different writers coming in and
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  out, someone will forget something or someone else I know
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  is that a little bit? But what's the name of that
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  character that I thought had, like, evil PTSD and they all
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  thought she had? Like she had no emotions the
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  blond character, the one who went off to London.
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  Oh yeah, halo-halo. I thought that she was turning
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  into a psychopath and evil and they went down this route.
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  So God look at her. She's disassociation from all
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  emotion. And then the next week it was
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  like, oh no, I'm back, I'm back to normal.
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  I was like, well, yes, sometimes you gotta forgive it in that way
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  because he's continuing. And in terms of the production.
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  So you've got to admire it, they're making six separate,
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  they are filming six episodes a week to go ahead and create that
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  is two hours so that an arc hours of Television a week
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  continuing right round. But they were just like you
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  read. Like in rooms a couple of the
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  episodes. Also later on there was a fire
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  in the school. I mean they did a bloody tornado
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  or something hitting. Yeah.
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  And the a tree fell down on the bar and murdered somebody.
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  But yeah but it's nice. Just to watch.
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  You get those big track storylines but then you also
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  have those smaller just looking looking at the community the fun
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  it's a world just to look into that world for 25 minutes and
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  just see what's happening and you could just switch off and
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  it's great escapism was well you know, absolutely.
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  Recognizing over the fact that it's gone the way you just send
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  it back. It's coming back now, isn't it?
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  So it's fine will happen just like dr.
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  Who it was axed. And then it came back, you know,
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  it's a comeback. Two months later, a massive
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  finale. I know what okay, to sort of go.
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  Okay, let's let's take this a decade at a time.
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  Hmm. Very quickly and talk about some
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  of your favorite characters because I think if you look at
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  the 80s that's where probably the most famous characters.
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  Come from that's when that's neighbors.
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  Is Dalek Mania? Isn't it officially a wedding?
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  It's, that's its peak. Who would it be?
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  Who are the biggies our Point? Well, you don't get Madge until
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  sort of a year or so in. So, it was axed after a couple
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  of months or begin with an external and went to another
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  Channel, picked it up so he could have only lasted and that,
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  that, those early, early years are a bit ropey, some of the,
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  some of the characters went over, but not all of, and they
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  recast a few people. But you obviously got your young
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  group of like school kids. So you who you have Scott, and
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  Charlene, and my bike lay, my God.
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  I was such a revelation because a, she capable gist of his
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  coming back for the finale. He's a really great actor and I
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  didn't really, so I guess he didn't watch these ones at the
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  time, I got up on DVD and watch them back, but I think Mike is a
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  great. I think better than Scott.
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  I think he's probably the best actor and I'm not surprised he
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  went on to do move. He's like the Mentos and
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  Priscilla, things like that. And you have Daphne and Des,
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  which were a great couple around that time.
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  He was definitely is when I do. She was a lesbian but I haircut
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  but it's all the 80s, isn't it? Some of the Fashions, oh my God.
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  Can I just say, you just mentioned Desmond?
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  The few episodes we've been watching from that period of
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  Desmond's mother, achievable, my name is, we'll just clean.
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  Is my lady o. My no Desmond.
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  She's not good for your dad's mom.
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  And she is so over the top. If that was a character,
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  neighbors, that would be me. But really in the 80s.
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  You, you've got the Robinson family, which is Helen and Jim,
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  and Julie, I learned Daniels, you know, Helen, damn knew,
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  absolutely that she is as another William Hartnell of
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  neighbors. If I'm a good doctor and she
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  went right through up until 1997, just before she died in
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  real life really, she went right through, she does she left?
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  Because she was ill and had he died.
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  Yeah. Otherwise so I think she would
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  have just carried on so and then you've got the say the robin.
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  Sorry. The ramseys with Madge coming
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  in. So it's really about those two
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  families. They're the main focus of the
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  80s and then you get other as it goes on top of the mountain
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  became independent. So you've got magic and then her
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  two daughters feet, Charlene, her daughter and Henry her son.
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  She match was the sister of Max Ramsey, so it was originally in
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  that house. The first episode was Max,
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  Maria. Danny and Shane they were
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  Ramses, didn't he? And then Max.
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  Yeah. And then this is what happens in
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  the, so something happens behind the scenes, and they just have
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  to swap out a character disappears.
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  No explanation. You know what?
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  My favorite from the 80s. Mrs. Mangle and then you've got
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  people like mrs. Angela, Howard comes in a bit
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  later on. I will have this Cafe shut down.
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  Down. And I'm calling the police
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  immediately. Yeah.
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  And so, these are these characters that are what's mrs.
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  Mangled, equivalent, uttered, a word all excited.
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  But that's the 80s. And then, as we go to the night,
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  I think the 90s Pete again. Yeah, I think because I feel
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  like everybody, no, that's not ours, watch it.
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  And it was down a little bit. And then then when the well, who
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  do we have? We still have Hannah Martin the
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  Marty So Judy - that character gets recast and comes back.
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  This was my period got going on, Lucy Robinson in there, Debbie
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  marting, Hannah Martin. Yeah.
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  Lance Amy all y'all, then it's just expensive.
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  Billy the Kennedys. Oh, my basically Billy Libby,
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  Susan and Karl come in in the mid 90s.
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  And that's I think when it goes back up again, and that's when I
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  first started watching, you know, my first memory, you know
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  who the Kennedys are, don't you mrs.
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  Kennedy was named Susan. Yeah.
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  Sarah Jane Smith. She used to say she thinks she
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  never went away and she, she's lovely.
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  Yeah, I my first memory when I started watching it was Libby
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  was a big character of mine, always been a favorite of mine
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  and I remember I think Darren Stark was going away or
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  something and he got on a bus and she cried and I remember
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  being really upset and crying. That was my first memory of
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  mechanic call during that period, with those sort of
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  longish hair. I will.
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  And Drew, that's a bit later on. As we're getting towards the
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  2000, take his top off a lot though.
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  Mm, I see. And that's when I started was
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  here forever. Yeah, baby.
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  So I probably started like 97. Is that when Jones and Joel came
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  in and the Kennedys? Yeah, the Kennedys were a big
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  factor of the 90s and then the big story line there, I suppose
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  if you looking at Big storyline. So Scott and Charlene's wedding
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  in the 80s, massive Carl and Sarah affair would be the big
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  story of the 90s so it was huge. I feel like that was it s Peak
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  and I said well that's the so yeah we're here.
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  Found out and slapped around the face.
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  I've seen that clip shown so many times.
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  Actual, she says don't, I think that was an X.
• 19:47
  That's the 90s that sort of 98 going into 99 and then an early
• 19:51
  2000s Peak I feel like what's the weather forecast?
• 19:54
  Well, the scully's came in of scully's were a great family for
• 19:57
  me, because I watch them moving in.
• 19:59
  Literally, the Martins drove down the street, and then, the
• 20:02
  scully's, drove up, the street and came in.
• 20:04
  And then you got the three sisters flick Michelle Steph
• 20:08
  with Lynn and Joe Scully and they aren't really the last of
• 20:12
  his mom and all that, then didn't you?
• 20:13
  It was that like it was a big sort of change over there so you
• 20:15
  sort of have the candies and the scully's with a main as going
• 20:18
  into the early 2000s, you know what?
• 20:20
  I can't watch those Cuddy upstairs now, though, because I
• 20:22
  know that Mar and Par Scully, what are their names?
• 20:26
  Lynn Lynn and Joe, yeah, they hate each other.
• 20:29
  You know, not the begin with. They want to begin Drive,
• 20:31
  someone to Absolute depression later on in real life, but then
• 20:35
  they had a court case to get it. I know there's always this is
• 20:38
  interesting as well, being interesting, neighbors, no one's
• 20:41
  ever done a sort of behind the scenes.
• 20:43
  But none of those actors article on scenes, all there's one on
• 20:46
  that shelf. There's one which is a bit
• 20:49
  questionable but nobody's ever done there, you know like dr.
• 20:52
  Who everyone's got a bouquet? I think that someone like
• 20:55
  magical Harold would. There's always a tell-all, no
• 20:58
  one's done, a sort of behind the scenes, it's always been, what's
• 21:01
  been going on behind, you know? No one, you know, what's the
• 21:03
  name? You plays, Susan?
• 21:05
  I don't know. Yeah, she officials.
• 21:07
  Don't want somebody left the show.
• 21:09
  No one's really talking about that book on the shelf that so
• 21:12
  there is a book. So I'm the leader that place the
• 21:15
  played Sarah this is the one laughing a fire.
• 21:18
  We have our Nikolai Charles, she wrote a book self-published very
• 21:22
  questionable. Saying that all these things
• 21:23
  went on Behavior was a bit Casting Couch.
• 21:25
  When she got there people are very horrible to her taking
• 21:27
  drugs blah blah blah blah blah. This is the stretchy one.
• 21:30
  Yes she's not great on Twitter. She's a big Trump supporter and
• 21:34
  it's all very Pro. So a lot of fans like her and
• 21:38
  like block her as well. He's saying I have The fans
• 21:46
  don't like her because she wedged her way in between Susan
• 21:49
  and Karl. Who were like she cares?
• 21:51
  She's coming back twice though. She did come back twice, they
• 21:54
  rewrote the story. Like I'm looking right at the
• 21:56
  end know, towards the end. They rewrote the story line to
• 22:00
  say that Carl actually slept with us.
• 22:01
  So he and another. So they had a son together.
• 22:03
  So the Sun comes back to someone else as well.
• 22:07
  Yes, yeah. Is he and then 2000s.
• 22:09
  That's the other big story line then.
• 22:11
  Is he and Carl? They because I think Is that
• 22:13
  success? They did it again they do it
• 22:15
  again so it's like so easy in college like the Dalek invasion
• 22:18
  of Earth following after the dollar has been such a success.
• 22:23
  Let's do this again but big toothbrush.
• 22:26
  A bit gugu is he she's a classic character.
• 22:30
  I think she's what they call the Heritage character now.
• 22:33
  So she actually back right there.
• 22:34
  The end was shaking. Like she came back.
• 22:36
  She came back a couple of years ago and tried to steal Carl's
• 22:41
  sperm and impregnate herself. In the last period.
• 22:45
  I think she was sleeping with their son in the very last
• 22:48
  episode. Yes.
• 22:49
  Back. Because I think it's again, it's
• 22:50
  a greatest hits. Like, what else could we do?
• 22:52
  It's, you know for the fans, they really looking back.
• 22:54
  It was a sequence. I think I started watching these
• 22:57
  Random clips of of laborers on YouTube.
• 23:01
  I think just to impress your little bit so far.
• 23:03
  You think I'd have a better knowledge and there was
• 23:06
  wonderful clip between Susan and this is he she went out in the
• 23:09
  streets and she's like you are pathetic.
• 23:12
  Is he And now you will never degrade my household again and
• 23:16
  she walked away with her head high.
• 23:18
  Honestly, that Jackie woodburne pissed off because she's always
• 23:22
  so light and amiable throughout most of the show, I'll tell you
• 23:25
  what, when she gets a come on, I think she might be the best
• 23:27
  actress and I'll show, you know, you probably and isn't she?
• 23:30
  Yeah, she's really great and they that I think they all are,
• 23:33
  it's a great point. Because I think again name is
• 23:36
  also famous for just sort of casting people on looks a lot of
• 23:40
  the time, rather than talent and I think that they We get angle,
• 23:44
  they get, you know, for the younger crowd, they would employ
• 23:48
  models and then give them acting lessons behind the scenes.
• 23:51
  Hollywood among people are that. Well, they do auditions, he's
• 23:56
  flick Scully, I beg your pardon, so, but I think at some other
• 24:02
  people have been discovered just on their looks and then I will,
• 24:04
  can you act? And then they learn acting.
• 24:06
  And a lot of people had never acted before, but it's a great
• 24:09
  training ground. This was what was talked about
• 24:12
  when neighbors was been asked This is where a lot of directors
• 24:15
  or, you know, casting people. They added like a director's
• 24:18
  course, where you would let a new word, direct neighbors.
• 24:21
  And it's a great pool of talent for Australian television said,
• 24:24
  when the show was axed, he said, this is a travesty because this
• 24:28
  show has been basically like the apprenticeship for so many
• 24:32
  people in Australian television actors, directors writers.
• 24:37
  Like they've all learned their chop through neighbors and it is
• 24:39
  a really good way of starting out.
• 24:42
  Yeah, you know and I think what you've Get there as well.
• 24:44
  Is you get great TV? Because I think when you're
• 24:47
  starting out and the beers, you take risks, you know, so you get
• 24:51
  big story lines. Okay.
• 24:52
  So we've got the, the scully's and the Kennedys.
• 24:56
  Yeah. And that's going to sort of
• 24:58
  thousands. And then this is where I stopped
• 25:00
  watching soft. Yeah, me too.
• 25:03
  This is where Paul Robinson, came back to New Orleans with
• 25:07
  Izzy whedon's, wieland's family. And then I and this is where I
• 25:16
  mean, it went off a little bit. I think because what Susan ended
• 25:19
  up being the local newspaper, editor for a while, okay, Livi
• 25:22
  left, the coffee shop came like Harold store.
• 25:26
  Lou and Harold ran the shop the store together.
• 25:28
  They blew up Lassiter's and rebuilt it.
• 25:31
  And pull was this big super villain that came in and he
• 25:35
  started taking up, something sort of the pool, sort of time,
• 25:39
  Harold's family came in and then everyone died in a plane crash.
• 25:42
  Obviously they got Rid of half the cast and a big plane crash
• 25:45
  really likes. A lot of people all of Howard's
• 25:47
  family died because he was living with his son
• 25:52
  daughter-in-law and Was like a motorcycle granddaughter who got
• 25:57
  killed off. He will just.
• 25:59
  When, is that during this woman? I hear it, man.
• 26:02
  Well towards that. And then I started watching
• 26:06
  again, sort of 2017 or so I mean Toady you have these characters
• 26:12
  and stay through all the Scully sort of dispersed eventually.
• 26:18
  So I didn't really know anyone when I started watching, but
• 26:20
  what got me back into it and this is great marketing because
• 26:25
  Big storyline towards or 2001-2002 was totally getting
• 26:28
  married today and they sort of because he's not as conventional
• 26:34
  looking. Maybe it's so he always had
• 26:36
  different heavy. She was like this thin blond
• 26:38
  girls. They're always saying it was
• 26:39
  sort of The Princess and the toad or whatever you know
• 26:42
  because he's Toady they'll sort of nickname is great wedding and
• 26:45
  they were sort of an unlikely couple and it went on for years
• 26:48
  and years, will they won't they and they did eventually married
• 26:51
  and then oxy on their wedding day, the car went off the cliff
• 26:56
  He survived D was never seen again and we had the funeral and
• 27:01
  everything her body was never found.
• 27:03
  And it was always a big tell me. She came back as always a big
• 27:05
  thing and then this news article came out.
• 27:08
  Deep Bliss is back from the dead, she's going to be in it.
• 27:11
  So this was like over 10 years later and I thought I have to
• 27:14
  watch now because I just needs it.
• 27:17
  I got the same actress back. What is going to happen?
• 27:19
  Totally settle down. Our kids in the new wife, and
• 27:21
  she knocks on the door. Hi, I'm back.
• 27:23
  And that started off a bit. Storyline.
• 27:26
  That was so successful. They extended it by a couple of
• 27:29
  years and kept at it were. The original plot was just
• 27:32
  extended so much and they added so much more because it got.
• 27:35
  So I think a lot of people started watching except
• 27:38
  doppelgangers of, then it went on, it was an evil sister.
• 27:43
  Twin separate those knocks on the door.
• 27:46
  Yeah. Pretending and but then wow, it
• 27:49
  was this whole storyline actually.
• 27:50
  And she was saying yes. I remember you Suzanne.
• 27:52
  Oh yeah. And all this stuff.
• 27:54
  She was pretending the whole time.
• 27:57
  It was the evil double sister but then what they did because
• 28:01
  it was so successful. They added his whole extra bit
• 28:03
  where actually there is the real D and she turns up after a
• 28:07
  while. So we have two of them being
• 28:09
  played by the same actress and he went on for ages and the even
• 28:13
  sister got put in prison and then the the her double came to
• 28:17
  visit. And so they had all these scenes
• 28:18
  between themselves, evil doppelganger.
• 28:25
  Then they brought in the evil mother, who was poisoning times
• 28:29
  current, why talk about this place?
• 28:31
  Is that Valley McPhee or Nanny Alice as well.
• 28:33
  So they adequately stuff. I've gotta say when you started
• 28:36
  telling me about this nanny Alice character, I was like,
• 28:39
  I've gotta wash episodes and then they showed me some clips
• 28:42
  and there's this woman. Sweetness and light is making
• 28:44
  these cookies will she powder and with like codeine and she's
• 28:50
  going He's going over. It's not just sort of a, I don't
• 28:57
  know. It sounds a bit.
• 28:57
  Like what's the American side like Days of Our Lives type of
• 28:59
  thing? It's not done like that.
• 29:00
  It's done in a, it sounds ridiculous, but it's done in
• 29:03
  quite a realistic way. So it's over as period of
• 29:06
  months, and months. And even years that you're
• 29:08
  watching this slow-burn storyline, because she came in a
• 29:11
  bit, a bit happened. Went out.
• 29:12
  Other things were happening and there were all these clues in
• 29:15
  the build-up doing. And while that's happening.
• 29:17
  There's other big story lines happening.
• 29:20
  They brought in a character, Cassius right?
• 29:24
  He turns up And he's literally wearing hardly anything.
• 29:27
  He's like this big sort of bodybuilder guy, he's like, oh
• 29:30
  your kids, my wife and she hasn't got any, but there's no
• 29:32
  relation to any one industry. He's not going to be front door,
• 29:34
  saying, how can I do some gardening for you and he's doing
• 29:36
  all his gardening in like and they did all the channel 5 did
• 29:39
  all these promos of him like we're in life.
• 29:41
  We doing with things and all that everyone in the street
• 29:43
  sleigh, is this going to get attention from everybody?
• 29:46
  It's like who is this person was and they put him in the titles
• 29:50
  straight away and usually there's some rules that, you
• 29:54
  know, I love how The titles change and you have the
• 29:56
  characters and they and you know, they can just sometimes
• 29:58
  they do like, I don't know a month or two and then once they
• 30:01
  start their first storylines over, you know, they're staying
• 30:03
  around. So they get put in the time.
• 30:04
  He's in the title straightaway. So that what's going on?
• 30:07
  What's Happening anyway? Turns out this is huge build
• 30:10
  storyline, where actually, he'd been in about six months before
• 30:15
  in the background as a waiter. Because someone and he was
• 30:18
  looking for his long-lost. Father, who had died on Guy
• 30:21
  Fawkes Night in a Jacuzzi dressed as guy for someone had
• 30:24
  hit him over the head. No, and with alarmed, he was
• 30:28
  secretly talk undercover trying to find his father but what they
• 30:30
  planted him and then he was in that six months, he was a bad.
• 30:33
  He got put into prison and they took him out again because so
• 30:36
  even like the show knows what it's doing by this point, so
• 30:40
  they're putting him in the title.
• 30:41
  So we're not thinking, he's not just sort of villain of the week
• 30:43
  because he's in the title is, he's gonna some, it's a bit
• 30:46
  like, you know, like you see in those earlier seen earlier
• 30:49
  episodes in the background, looks like they did a flashback
• 30:53
  a year, like a year when This one on for about a year and then
• 30:57
  they did a flashback and he was there as a weight of the
• 31:00
  masculine Guy Fawkes Night and he was actually turned out to be
• 31:03
  the murder. But there was this whole big
• 31:05
  who, who is it, you know, so why you're saying?
• 31:07
  So it's a very clever at Fort, you know, all these things.
• 31:10
  If you're watching as a regular right through, you get so much
• 31:13
  benefit from that's that's I suppose the benefit of having
• 31:18
  the longevity. It does.
• 31:19
  Yeah and knowing it's going to continue.
• 31:21
  Yes. Is that they can do this?
• 31:22
  Long-form storytelling with massive payoff.
• 31:24
  Yeah, they did the same thing. I remember they did it with
• 31:28
  Phil's, son, Michael, who was trying to kill Julie, Martin in
• 31:33
  various ways and it started off of him just being a bit of a
• 31:36
  petulant teen. I'll eventually obviously, he's
• 31:39
  trying to drug her and throw down a Jacuzzi.
• 31:42
  I mean, it was amazing but they know what they're doing because
• 31:45
  with the whole D thing, anything with D or a clue, everyone will
• 31:50
  be talking about it on Twitter. What is it?
• 31:51
  And there was like, end-of-year special literary sheet.
• 31:54
  The Car pulled up in the background of something else.
• 31:56
  The window came down and there was D and it went up.
• 31:59
  Again in the car went away. And that was the end of the
• 32:01
  season and everyone's like, oh my God, what's the next thing?
• 32:04
  What's the next chapter? They just know what they're
• 32:06
  doing. Would you say this was another
• 32:08
  Peak period of Neighbors, when the D I think a lot of viewers
• 32:12
  came back on board like me who had maybe watch from the 90s and
• 32:15
  they got everybody watching again I think and so did that
• 32:18
  attract like and towards again bringing David Tennant back for
• 32:21
  this RTD back after 70 days. That's the pig is gone down a
• 32:27
  bit. Let's bring David Tennant back
• 32:29
  and I think a lot of viewers will come back to who go.
• 32:31
  Yeah. And I think just bringing that
• 32:32
  carrot because everyone would always say, oh, what happened to
• 32:34
  do? It was a big, sort of question,
• 32:36
  mark, and it's so clever for the producers to do that.
• 32:39
  But then after that, that led the way for other Heritage
• 32:43
  characters to come back. So there was always late
• 32:46
  Reformation. There was lots of references to
• 32:48
  past lots of 90s, carry, two people that I wouldn't expect a
• 32:50
  me was on my list of come because I loved her in the 90s
• 32:53
  and had to come back as a regular character.
• 32:54
  It was great. Well, she broke his heart.
• 32:57
  You know, she'll sleep, move. All these Pilots.
• 32:58
  I mean they did bring magic back as well.
• 33:00
  I missed that bit around the 30th Anniversary match.
• 33:02
  Came back as a ghost for a week but Harold it.
• 33:05
  So no one else could see apart from him.
• 33:07
  So she was always in the scenes talking to him, but no one else
• 33:09
  could see that. That's a great way of bringing
• 33:11
  him back, you know. So so what about the last period
• 33:15
  Then I sort of last couple years getting great.
• 33:19
  I think I was because then, well, then you had the first
• 33:22
  ever gay wedding, I think I'm Australian.
• 33:24
  Additionally, smokin hot as well, making history.
• 33:28
  And then that, yeah, the storylines were very
• 33:30
  Progressive. I think what?
• 33:32
  I'll never find in Therese hanging off that roof.
• 33:34
  Yeah, it had this surrogacy storyline with our favorite
• 33:41
  Jane's daughter. Oh, Charlotte Grimes.
• 33:45
  Yeah, Charlotte Chimes. Yeah.
• 33:48
  Nicolette Nicholas, baby swap stories.
• 33:50
  And so she had a baby and there's a big moment there,
• 33:53
  where actually? There were two babies All of a
• 33:55
  sudden, like I said, massive pole came down hit a bar killed
• 33:59
  somebody and then Paul son went off the rails suddenly a bit.
• 34:02
  We also have that small drop well and then they were
• 34:04
  celebrating the 35th Anniversary like dr.
• 34:07
  Who they love and anniversary special bring everyone in.
• 34:09
  So bring everybody back when it's an anniversary.
• 34:13
  You know it's the equivalent the five doctors, you know, the
• 34:16
  folks you know, it is they bring all these faces back and I think
• 34:20
  that gets viewers watching as well, but then some of them stay
• 34:23
  around or some of them. What they did.
• 34:25
  I think in the 80s and the 90s, you would have a character
• 34:29
  coming off, see that actor wants to leave their written out and
• 34:32
  they're always all there in Queensland.
• 34:34
  Oh, they can't get a flight. When there's a big family
• 34:36
  emergency, like when match tied, her daughter didn't come to the
• 34:39
  funeral or anything, you know, I surely know, there's a, the
• 34:42
  flight's been delayed, she can't get there.
• 34:44
  Well, he would be there, whereas, some of these other
• 34:47
  smaller characters, what happens if they sort of dropped in and
• 34:50
  out a bit more like real life. So you would have Your sister.
• 34:55
  So you'd have Lucy Robinson, then all of a sudden she come in
• 34:57
  for a couple of episodes. Go away.
• 34:59
  You see a few months later because it's a rusty Davis here.
• 35:03
  A doctor with Jackie Tyler, Mickey coming back every couple
• 35:05
  of episodes. They leaned into getting some of
• 35:07
  these other cat faces, not for big stints, some of them were
• 35:12
  stayed around some of them didn't or they'd be on a court,
• 35:14
  or do a Skype call and Tom will do a video and it made it even
• 35:18
  more sort of real life. That actually, there are these
• 35:20
  people other characters still living their lives out there and
• 35:22
  they got to come on our Rich history of They were just
• 35:25
  minding that history towards the end.
• 35:26
  They were really minor that history, which resulted in the
• 35:29
  fern lever episode of the current Rod?
• 35:31
  Well, everyone came back, which is brilliant, which is the
• 35:34
  Journey's End I suppose. Yeah.
• 35:36
  Images in time. Yeah, of all of that.
• 35:41
  So, it was absolutely incredible.
• 35:43
  The amount of famous people and I know people criticize, Kylie
• 35:49
  Minogue ingested Donovan, but I'm sure they would, they just
• 35:51
  had a, like, a days were filming.
• 35:54
  So for them, To do it at all. They are Mega stars that they
• 35:57
  are not, they don't own neighbors.
• 35:59
  Anything that is kind of a no coming back.
• 36:01
  Is Tom Baker coming back into a the doctor just for one Cameo
• 36:04
  he's no doctor anything in there.
• 36:06
  Yeah. It just comes back just to do
• 36:07
  that large. Yeah but like you said Guy
• 36:09
  Pearce coming back that was a proper storyline where he
• 36:12
  reconnected with Jane. Yeah.
• 36:14
  And there's some serious acting going on that it was really
• 36:17
  really nice. Like I think that was the
• 36:20
  biggest surprise of that was how much that pie they gave him and
• 36:23
  then you just so In the last sequence where Susan Kennedy
• 36:26
  gave that lovely speech when she said, you know together we will
• 36:31
  find the perfect. Blair yeah so I'm doing the
• 36:34
  Irish radian and now and now it's coming back and I don't
• 36:37
  know if that was such a great ending.
• 36:38
  It's great that its continuing but I don't know who's coming
• 36:42
  back. Is it gonna be so different?
• 36:44
  Is this, this is its reboot. This is It's Christopher
• 36:47
  Eccleston starting from what is that Gap?
• 36:50
  We need neighbors magazines. Do a regeneration in the comic.
• 36:56
  Well, I got another question for you, oh my god.
• 36:58
  Imagine neighbors poster Magazine anyway.
• 37:01
  No, wow, so we covered in blood, a proposed to solve do gold and
• 37:06
  also sorry. Just in terms of the merch you
• 37:09
  get the neighbors annual like Doctor Who you get the
• 37:11
  novelizations of the some of the 80s ones.
• 37:13
  Like Doctor Who there are some you know it was big back.
• 37:17
  Then I remember animals and also guess.
• 37:19
  Yeah. Unless you just said that.
• 37:24
  All we need. Now is a dramas.
• 37:27
  The Ramsey Street Chronicle has appeared, we need please around.
• 37:31
  Now, if it wasn't going bang, Mark really could have done
• 37:35
  that. Okay, another question for you.
• 37:37
  Yeah, come on. Now, you get a very excited
• 37:39
  there. Got you, got you all the topic?
• 37:41
  You're very passionate, this is all about Peak.
• 37:47
  Deaths. Peak marriages, this is a soap
• 37:52
  opera. Well it's basically births
• 37:54
  deaths and marriages really, is that, it's okay.
• 37:56
  Let's start with births. I've also got not bothered about
• 37:59
  the births. I've never been excited about
• 38:01
  me, but I know I might remember anyone being bald in Neighbors?
• 38:05
  Didn't somebody, I think it was mainly gave birth with a tight
• 38:08
  still on. I think that's quite baby stuck
• 38:11
  in the toys. He was a lorry driver for a
• 38:15
  while and No, he's a taxi driver and this girl that he was faring
• 38:20
  around was just site to give birth and he couldn't get any
• 38:23
  signal. So he had to deliver the baby by
• 38:26
  the side of the road and oh yeah, but births I yeah, they're
• 38:31
  more sort of 80s. I feel but they go to town on
• 38:34
  death's. I can I just say to that?
• 38:36
  I remember very well I remembered after is it
• 38:39
  definitely which do when they're in the field?
• 38:42
  They're going on there. The daikon one.
• 38:43
  Yeah. So that is definitely Skies
• 38:47
  Mother. So that's Harold's daughter.
• 38:48
  Is it? What's her name?
• 38:50
  I remember he was, he was waiting his way for that, it was
• 38:52
  like para. Crowley was going through this
• 38:54
  Marsh, screaming out a name, married to Joe mangle.
• 38:57
  Yeah, it was during my goals Skye's mother house door.
• 39:00
  I've can think of everybody else around her that conditional
• 39:03
  carriers, it carer number. But obviously, my other favorite
• 39:09
  is Julie, Martin's death, just because they made a joke of it
• 39:13
  is set. The murder mystery party.
• 39:14
  They're all there and her last fall in the At this point, I
• 39:17
  mean, she was fabulous. Was a she had told neurotic Jew
• 39:21
  both versions. Both incarnations of Jeannie.
• 39:22
  Mine have been brilliant. She was so amazing.
• 39:25
  She accused the neighbors of cooking and eating the dog,
• 39:29
  didn't she? But it's the snipers in the 80s,
• 39:32
  not right now. And she's found date down the
• 39:50
  bottom of this Bell Tower. And so that becomes a real
• 39:53
  murderer who killed Julie, Martin, what turns out it was
• 39:56
  Debbie, where weren't in flashback.
• 39:59
  We learned later on that everyone up, it's just going no
• 40:02
  more. Jerry Martin's at the top going
• 40:05
  you all think I'm a terrible person.
• 40:07
  She's got this. She's absolutely pissed as
• 40:08
  houses. She's got a glass of wine in her
• 40:10
  hands and she just falls off. The top of the belter.
• 40:13
  Amazing, gotta wash. Your Peak deaths.
• 40:15
  Are will match going? It was a set really sad, he's
• 40:18
  that was the first one. That was really sort of a and
• 40:21
  Smith when he really wants to act, that was so good and it
• 40:25
  happens quite quickly in these soaps.
• 40:26
  It happens quite quickly, doesn't it?
• 40:28
  It's like death shit. Well mattress like diagnose in
• 40:31
  like two weeks, she's written out, you know, it happened
• 40:33
  quickly for Todd. He ran across the road and got
• 40:35
  hit by a car and one of my picks as well as Sonya's death which
• 40:39
  was a more recent one which a whole episode was devoted to.
• 40:42
  This is what neighbors did later on?
• 40:44
  I think they took the leaf from some of the UK soaps.
• 40:47
  They do these two handers where it's just two characters, very
• 40:51
  minimal, just between them. They did a couple of those and
• 40:56
  sonja's, death is a bit like that and that's so very
• 40:59
  emotional and the acting in that is absolutely brilliant that I
• 41:02
  think that could be just a short film that short drama film on
• 41:05
  its own. You don't need to know anything
• 41:06
  else about that. What about Helen Daniels and
• 41:09
  Helen of start was sad as well. You can't wash that without
• 41:13
  tearing up because that is you know, that's like your Tenth
• 41:15
  Planet. Episode 4 is In it.
• 41:17
  That's William, Hartnell leaving the series and had, he's leaving
• 41:19
  the city watching Scott and Charles Eames wedding over and
• 41:23
  over. She's like, oh darling to
• 41:25
  Hannah. I'm feeling a bit sleepy, so
• 41:27
  she's puts her head down on her shoulder.
• 41:29
  Yeah, and then doesn't wake up. That's all like I really had a
• 41:33
  mic is like I think she did the piano music, the sad piano music
• 41:41
  when someone's dead bit like a tricks death but she has a
• 41:44
  proper Montage, doesn't she? Yeah, she does when she has Dice
• 41:47
  with death before then when she was nearly get gassed in the
• 41:49
  garage and lots of things happen.
• 41:51
  Solid Daniels, menaced on the bungle, bungles a romance
• 41:57
  laughing. Yeah, any other deaths were
• 42:01
  floating Drew. Fell off a horse.
• 42:04
  Oh, that's Ties That and Libby. That was really sad for Liberty.
• 42:07
  Was there a plot right where flick Scully and Libby were both
• 42:12
  after the same man? Very most.
• 42:15
  So what happens Steph Was getting married and younger
• 42:20
  sister was having an affair with him and then they found out on
• 42:23
  the a goal to that was a big. My holster always been a quiet
• 42:26
  industry. Proper bitch fighting going on
• 42:28
  Lightning hate neighbors that is yeah went in with will go each
• 42:32
  other but that's always months. What you see these clips?
• 42:34
  Actually? It's months and months of this,
• 42:36
  these characters building up to this point, which is great.
• 42:39
  Well, okay, I don't know. There are some murders.
• 42:41
  I do want to talk to you about, right?
• 42:43
  Because neighbors, had a Weird adult spin-off, where some of
• 42:50
  the younger members of the cast all went off to a desert island.
• 42:53
  Well, this was the 35th Anniversary week so we had a
• 42:55
  week, you normal episodes in the daytime where there was a
• 42:59
  wedding fair going on. So it's five weddings happening
• 43:01
  in that way, they'll bring back old characters and then there's
• 43:04
  going to be however, many deaths as well that week.
• 43:07
  And that was a late night version where the other another
• 43:10
  set of characters were bought on an island with a little, did
• 43:13
  they know there was a psychopath on the island with them?
• 43:17
  Who's trying to kill them? All looking hot Psychopathic,
• 43:20
  they're all trying to fuck him and he's trying to kill them
• 43:21
  all. So yeah.
• 43:23
  So that's great. And astonished me about that
• 43:26
  when you show me clips that I was like a movie, it was shot
• 43:30
  like a bloody movie. So a lot was put into it and
• 43:32
  channel 5, put a lot of money into that.
• 43:34
  So the BBC gave up Neighbors in 9 2004, which I think was a big.
• 43:40
  I don't know why they did that they didn't want to pay.
• 43:43
  We're just giving a Mondeo is where ice when talk about the
• 43:45
  same siren wails. Exactly.
• 43:46
  I'm Like that dick head moves whether PPC.
• 43:49
  So then it went over to Channel 5 and I think the viewing
• 43:53
  figures went down because I just think generally Channel 5, it's
• 43:55
  not as many people have Channel 5.
• 43:57
  Yeah. And that's when the pitcher
• 43:58
  changed as well. When it got graded and film
• 44:00
  rised, where and they're thinking, right?
• 44:06
  He's very much game. Show we in the studio, you can
• 44:08
  tell it's fake. But what then?
• 44:09
  They went over to more these real sets and they upgraded
• 44:12
  everything when it went to HD as well and the picture and it
• 44:15
  just, yeah. And they do sell these Drone
• 44:18
  footage as well and they rebuilt.
• 44:21
  So they used to use the real Gardens.
• 44:23
  Yeah, for the residents on the street and they're swimming
• 44:26
  pools and stuff, but then they rebuilt all of that on on the
• 44:30
  lot. So all of the gardens became
• 44:33
  sets which you can use whenever and they came a bit bigger and I
• 44:35
  don't think they're very much like real life.
• 44:37
  So you said so many, there were some times where they only had
• 44:41
  the Studio's available and there are other times where they had
• 44:42
  the outsides available. Yeah, you'll notice.
• 44:44
  There are some episodes where they're all just Outside.
• 44:47
  I've been there drawing those? Yeah this is there was an
• 44:49
  interview with one of the writers.
• 44:51
  So what happened that you have one set of cast that are on
• 44:54
  location? The other set are on the studio
• 44:57
  and then they sort of swap over. And so the right is it's all
• 45:00
  different writers. Each episode is not like, it's
• 45:03
  so the storylines are pitched out a night.
• 45:05
  And then, okay, I'm so sorry too.
• 45:09
  There's another Doctor Who parallel because Pete, look Ty,
• 45:12
  yes, Doctor Who fan practice a us, an award for writing them.
• 45:16
  Script editor and script writer Davis.
• 45:19
  I really want to talk to people in time.
• 45:21
  I don't know something I really want to talk to him.
• 45:23
  Anyway, can I continue my story? Thank you.
• 45:25
  Yeah, sorry. So you've got these, so the
• 45:29
  writers are like, right. This these are, this is what
• 45:31
  needs to happen and you have the sets available because you're in
• 45:37
  studio this week for these episodes.
• 45:38
  So then the writers have to work out, right?
• 45:40
  This important business meeting needs to happen but we don't
• 45:43
  have pools office set available. We've only got the pub That's
• 45:47
  why it goes a little slightly off real life, where the light
• 45:50
  we need to have this confidential business meeting in
• 45:52
  the coffee shop, or in the because, and it's more of a
• 45:56
  necessity of the set rather than because you're watching it.
• 45:59
  Like, why are you having this really important business in the
• 46:02
  middle of a pub, in the daytime? You know, you wouldn't do that.
• 46:04
  But that is because they've only got that set that week or these
• 46:08
  characters need to be outside on the street.
• 46:10
  This point I have this conversation.
• 46:12
  Oh they have conversations outside rather than in The Host
• 46:16
  range. Can I have a chat to you?
• 46:18
  Oh, we just going to stand out on the street here, rather than
• 46:20
  being your house together. So it's a big jigsaw puzzle as
• 46:24
  well. We actually writing the one,
• 46:26
  that's the most amazing. And they were the first
• 46:29
  production to come back after coat after of things, stopped in
• 46:33
  the world to come back. The first TV production, to go
• 46:35
  back and they'd worked out bubbles.
• 46:38
  Did they bubbled up? The two cars and only had one
• 46:41
  set of cast outside and one set of cast insights that made it
• 46:43
  even more difficult. Yeah.
• 46:44
  But clear. So you only ever saw these.
• 46:46
  Outside for months and months and months but it was so good
• 46:50
  and they were the first of the year to go back into production
• 46:52
  and to carry on and they set things up for the rest of the
• 46:55
  world. Other companies were getting in
• 46:57
  touch when I how do you, how are you doing this?
• 46:58
  What are you doing? So it's it's very graphic.
• 47:01
  Great, what? So we've done births, we've done
• 47:04
  deaths. Yeah marriages, she's got
• 47:07
  Charlie allies, but by during Libby's wedding, was great.
• 47:11
  I had of Scottish feel yet to eat haggis and wear a kilt and
• 47:14
  all that stuff. So gay weddings, obviously a Gay
• 47:17
  wedding was a, yeah, it had what's-her-name's your watch
• 47:20
  Kath & Kim. No.
• 47:21
  Okay, there's a famous comedian from that who was there,
• 47:26
  celebrant in that, which turned out to, because half-sister just
• 47:30
  kind of stay generally, went out and she came back and she'd
• 47:33
  read, and she knocked down half their fireplace and Warren redid
• 47:36
  their living room for them. I'll tend to be secret
• 47:39
  millionaire because she's written a song that got loads of
• 47:41
  royalties and she bought called the tram.
• 47:46
  Now between soap operas like neighbors.
• 47:50
  Yeah. And Doctor Who is how fucking
• 47:52
  absurd the twists and turns? No wonder you love neighbors
• 47:55
  because it's just like Doctor Who.
• 47:57
  Yeah. Very you know your long-lost
• 47:59
  sisters are things like this evil doppelganger it's just a
• 48:03
  place that's not make laws to me.
• 48:05
  Okay we'll look we've got about 10 minutes left.
• 48:08
  Okay we covered a lot of ground here.
• 48:10
  I think excited to be talking so passionately about this subject
• 48:15
  but I would like Just for five minutes because anyone that
• 48:18
  follows to watch who will know of The Saga when you faced with
• 48:24
  a member of neighbors fandom, so, perhaps, you'd care to share
• 48:28
  your story about that. So, in the 2000s, when I was
• 48:33
  watching, I taped all the episodes, right?
• 48:35
  She's a bit like a doctor who fan would do.
• 48:37
  So I had all these tapes you a couple of years worth of
• 48:40
  episodes and I started to digitize them all because
• 48:44
  there's taking up so much space or it's getting DVDs, I've got a
• 48:47
  good chunk of episodes and so I'm going to touch on Twitter
• 48:50
  saying hi. I hear you've got talk to and
• 48:53
  not take neighbors episodes and then we started an exchange.
• 48:57
  This fan in Australia, who wants to collect them all.
• 48:59
  He's got loads. What should be reasonable?
• 49:01
  But you just hide her at like a lot.
• 49:03
  Like the conversation just started to go around?
• 49:05
  What episodes of you gotta be? Like, I've got these.
• 49:08
  You like, okay. Have you got this?
• 49:09
  I was like no. I've got these.
• 49:10
  I have. You got this?
• 49:11
  No. Are these the only ones I've
• 49:12
  got? Why haven't you got these ones?
• 49:14
  I was like because I haven't got them.
• 49:16
  Okay. I have these ones.
• 49:17
  Anyway, I just went on and on, we didn't exchange.
• 49:20
  He sent me a big chunk of DVDs to be fair and I sent a load of
• 49:24
  to him. And then you as soon, I like I
• 49:26
  said, like, I don't know, like 50 DVDs to him, and he sent 50
• 49:30
  to me and then it was like, have you got any more?
• 49:32
  I'm like that. I, it takes a long time to
• 49:34
  digitize them. I've got a sit through each
• 49:36
  stage, you know, put them through and he was like, well,
• 49:39
  when you can win, can I have them?
• 49:41
  When can I have them? When can I have?
• 49:42
  I got, I'm just gonna mess up your nails and that was about a
• 49:45
  year and a half ago. I sort of gave up and I just
• 49:50
  don't want to send a medic because then he wanted to do a
• 49:52
  file transfer but the files are too big.
• 49:54
  Then he wants me to buy my hard drive and send them all over.
• 49:57
  And then I sent him these DVDs and he said oh can I have them
• 50:00
  all on digital as well? Because the quality isn't great.
• 50:02
  And it's like they're really old VHS is I said to him as well.
• 50:05
  They're old VHS is they're not great quality kind of anyway
• 50:08
  it's basically a stalker. Now Annie I getting emails and
• 50:11
  getting messages day day after day after day and it's about a
• 50:14
  year and a half ago and at last Said I was like, look, I've
• 50:17
  given you all these. Have you watched me?
• 50:19
  He's like, yeah, I don't I don't do anything else.
• 50:21
  So I've got time to watch them all this Obsession.
• 50:24
  Another let he keeps us from every episode is like this
• 50:28
  reminds me of a neighbor's episode.
• 50:30
  Yeah, he's gonna turn up on your doorstep so soon.
• 50:33
  So anyway I'll be your long lost brother so there's some sets of
• 50:36
  fans out there. If you think Doctor Who fans are
• 50:38
  obsessive, he's like the Ian Levine.
• 50:40
  Yeah, it's a surprise, but it came off the air.
• 50:46
  He didn't do his own. It's no fun drive was like at
• 50:49
  least it stopped now. He's can collect every other
• 50:51
  shows probably a bit like whiz kid, you know.
• 50:53
  Uh, I know it's not as good as it used to be but I still
• 50:56
  terribly interested. Well yes, I read your still
• 51:01
  being message now. Yeah.
• 51:03
  Oh, bless you. Yeah.
• 51:04
  Well there you go when I'll get poisoned messages on my blog
• 51:07
  don't worry about it's part and parcel putting things out there.
• 51:10
  I'm afraid. Well why don't you tell
• 51:13
  everybody what episodes you've chosen to be chosen?
• 51:16
  Five. I've got six.
• 51:18
  Wow, I can't, I wanted to be an impossible task but I want to
• 51:22
  try and get a bit of an overview of the whole series.
• 51:25
  So I've chosen, you know, some of the different decades but
• 51:28
  also ones that I think are a great to talk about.
• 51:32
  So I've got one from 1986 episode 249.
• 51:39
  And this one, I've chosen this just because it shows that
• 51:43
  Community Spirit, those regular characters, the peak in the And
• 51:47
  it's the one where they do the pancake competition.
• 51:48
  We've matched. Hello!
• 51:50
  So we'll call it the pancake competition God, which sums up
• 51:53
  Neighbors to it, you can have wishes, you can have weeks and
• 51:56
  weeks of episodes. Talk about this pancake
• 51:58
  competition and if of anticipation that there's going
• 52:01
  to be a pancake competition. So we have to do that was the
• 52:04
  Doctor Who equivalent of that episode.
• 52:06
  Oh God, the chase. Um yeah next then we're going
• 52:14
  way forward in time, actually to To episode 3445 skipped forward,
• 52:21
  Fred are thousands of showing a bit of 90s drama, and this is
• 52:25
  what I remember watching the 1999 season finale, celebrating
• 52:30
  the Millennium, a big house, party in the street.
• 52:32
  And there's a fire. Oh, I love that hat.
• 52:35
  Besides I just got all of the characters in it as well,
• 52:38
  because I really, I remember watching this, at the Tarsus say
• 52:40
  that, I definitely got the channel 5 budget at this point.
• 52:42
  Good fire itself is so lame. Okay, and We are going up to
• 52:49
  episode 4773, which is the 20th anniversary.
• 52:54
  So this is the five doctors of Neighbors, which has ever.
• 52:58
  This is the first time where it's really looking back on the
• 53:00
  show and you get in lots of faces together is that where
• 53:03
  Annalise makes her video and Lisa's making a documentary
• 53:05
  about the history of the street and everyone everybody could
• 53:08
  what sounds best name the woman. I love the relay Marlene Okay,
• 53:18
  and then we're going to fit more recent because this is what I've
• 53:21
  really been enjoying most recently.
• 53:24
  So then we're going to episode 8 2002.
• 53:28
  We've skipped file for thousands.
• 53:30
  Oh I know. I know so Channel 5 towards the
• 53:35
  end of saying we're going to put more money into the show because
• 53:38
  usually what would happen is the show would stop sort of over
• 53:41
  Christmas time. You'd have that season break,
• 53:44
  but then they said we're going to do more specials.
• 53:45
  We're going to carry on right through and At a big press
• 53:47
  thing. Saying going to carry on through
• 53:49
  Christmas with going to make more episodes.
• 53:51
  That did it for two years before the accident.
• 53:53
  So I didn't really live up to their promises, but this was one
• 53:56
  of the first Christmas Day episodes.
• 53:59
  Wow. So this is 8002.
• 54:01
  Jim Robinson appears in a Christmas ball ball so we have
• 54:05
  to watch it. So you see everyone celebrating
• 54:07
  Christmas. They brought Jim Robinson back
• 54:12
  from the dead. See, I'm glad A bit wacky and
• 54:23
  the actor. Yeah, yes.
• 54:28
  Anyway, well that's just it was special effects, right?
• 54:32
  This is actually put him inside a ball ball.
• 54:35
  No, they didn't put him inside the Border, you know?
• 54:36
  He just turns out anyway. So and actually you know what,
• 54:42
  if made a continue that in the big episode on Christmas Day bit
• 54:46
  like it. Doctor Who the Christmas Day
• 54:47
  episode? You could have had everybody
• 54:49
  watching our neighbors on Christmas day.
• 54:51
  Yeah, they're always I could have not like this.
• 54:54
  Yeah, you're right. And then we're going to 8050 to
• 55:02
  which is Sonya's death, which I talked about before which is
• 55:06
  like a tube which is just between Toady and Sonya.
• 55:09
  She knows it's like your event episode that you.
• 55:11
  This is a big event one and she knows.
• 55:16
  So she's gonna die. She's been given like days to
• 55:19
  live but he's she hasn't told him.
• 55:21
  All right, so are my God can't, it's gonna be tough to watch
• 55:25
  that one. Okay.
• 55:26
  You're tearing up that. I told ya.
• 55:28
  So your last one and then the last one is eight thousand one
• 55:32
  hundred and forty one the D storyline which I said, well
• 55:36
  it's where Dee and her evil twin sister meet on the top of a
• 55:41
  cliff, top obviously know. And what happens then?
• 55:46
  It is absolutely no. So the doctor and the master and
• 55:50
  last of the time little. Yes.
• 55:52
  Yeah, those moments like because that's the combination of a
• 55:56
  couple of years worth of storyline that they've been
• 55:58
  working towards and it's been such a success.
• 56:01
  So there we are. I am so impressed that you have
• 56:03
  managed to boil maybe it's out. I mean to be fair there about
• 56:07
  100 episodes you could have chosen this so many when it
• 56:10
  comes to births deaths. Marriages events.
• 56:13
  Yeah it's so things going on. And before we go there do you
• 56:19
  have like a favorite storyline it?
• 56:22
  I think it would have to be the DNA Andrea one, just because it
• 56:25
  goes all because it went on for so long and it gave so many
• 56:27
  moments. So many Mysteries, they just
• 56:31
  executed it really, really well. I think, wow.
• 56:34
  And I know and sometimes it goes over the top a little bit maybe.
• 56:37
  But actually, it was great. Drama is great.
• 56:39
  It's well-acted. And the way that she plays the
• 56:41
  two different ones, because she's because one of them, sort
• 56:43
  of like, a more well-spoken version, the other one's a bit.
• 56:46
  Of the Bogan e sort of sister that was forgotten.
• 56:50
  So she plays up against herself. Okay.
• 56:53
  Yeah. You know like I suppose that's
• 56:55
  Australian world of sort of caviar.
• 56:57
  Okay. I think wow, Jack our way to get
• 57:02
  started with it. Oh my God.
• 57:04
  You talked so much about so much.
• 57:06
  Neighbors content, here. I'm desperate to go back to
• 57:08
  episode while the neighbors family, since the whole after
• 57:10
  talk to you, when we watch these episodes of The Fan meet ups
• 57:12
  that I've done and stars. Well, the thing is about these
• 57:15
  neighbors episodes is there, Only 20 minutes.
• 57:17
  So while the better chat before laughter and they'll be
• 57:19
  available online for people to watch along with us as well.
• 57:22
  They are all up. There were Dailymotion and stuff
• 57:24
  you can't find them. Well, I think we should probably
• 57:26
  see this fantastic episode of how to structure our where I was
• 57:31
  both singing. The name is oh sure.
• 57:46
  One, that's good.