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Trekcast 357: What's Next? Picard Series Finale Review, Real Life Trek Tech and Where's Laris? · Star Trek Podcast: Trekcast

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  Track Cuss the Galaxy's Most Unpredictable Star Trick Podcast, Where'd you get the pick
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  of that sandwich? Every week? Look at that sandwich. I'm like,
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  that's a good looking sand Google. I just google sandwiches sandwiches. Okay,
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  it does look good. It is a good looking sandwich. Yeah, I
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  would eat it. It is. I'm thinking about ditching the show, which
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  is going to make sandwich almost lunch time for you. Yeah, it is
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  all right. Here's the question. Hot sandwiches or cold sandwiches. Um depends
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  on what's on the sandwich. Okay, So nobody wants a hot peanut butter
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  and jelly. So, although, oh you're wrong, is that a thing?
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  It is a thing. So I've talked before about we do you have
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  to do and free in the house, right right, So because of that,
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  the loaves of bread that I buy, being gluten free are typically come
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  frozen, right, And so it's an eight dollar loaf of bread that's frozen.
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  Okay, Yeah, So I mean the cheapest I can gets eight bucks,
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  that's all rights? Ye that yeah, then twenty exactly yeah, but
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  any rate, um, So because it comes that way, I've gotten very
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  acused used to toasting, the toasting the bread right, and so the bread
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  is always hot and sometimes other things I put in it are hot, and
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  then everything else is like the meat is cold. Um, the cheese I
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  might warm up a little bit with it, and then of course there's cold
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  lettuce and there's cold mayo and all that. But the bread is always warm
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  and hot. And so yes, I do um toasted uh PB and j's
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  the jelly and the is cold, but the peanut butter is warm with the
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  toast. It's it's fantastic. I've had I've had p hey on toast.
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  Yeah, I've head it on toasting bread before. Yeah. Yeah, that's
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  essentially what I'm doing. No, I've heard of people like making basically the
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  way you would make a grilled cheese sandwich in a pan. Amazing, but
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  using uh people that I was getting too. Yeah, okay, that's weird.
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  Yeah, you know what's weird. You're in my spot, that's what's
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  Yeah. I'll move things around that no wrong for me, closer closer,
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  just need to there we go, there we go. There's been a long
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  road, you know, it is what's getting out. Yeah, that's right,
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  that's right. Quizness Nose did not succeed quiznos around here in Kansas City.
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  Here it died, yea death over here to New York as well.
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  They expanded into New York about ten years ago and then uh, they were
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  like, we'll see you. Well, they can't keep up with the chat.
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  They can't keep up with the chata in his spot. Yeah, you're
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  a bottom. You're a bottom, just like Chad Scott's a bottom too.
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  Oh no, go by, he's smiling about it. Oh my, oh
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  bye. We need that soundclip. Someone send me that soundclip. Hot dogs
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  are indeed sandwiches. Indeed, of all the things we have to talk about
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  from this week, this is what we start with. Yeah, well it's
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  food casting. I have I have weird thoughts like this. Sometimes he just
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  brought up hot dogs. Yeah, okay. Sometimes I'll think of things and
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  then I'll say, is there any connection to Star Trek with that item?
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  Has anyone on Star Trek ever been depicted eating a hot dog? Or have
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  we ever seen a hot dog on Star Truck? I don't think we have.
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  No. I would remember that um Cisco asked for hot dogs in one
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  of the Baseball episodes. Or okay, you know what Voyager when they went
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  back in time to nineteen ninety six. I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure
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  tuvak in Paris had hot dogs with really what's what's her name? Who?
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  The comedian? Oh, Sarah. That's my favorite, because Tuvakwar is a
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  drag. Yeah, great, dubaka. Yeah. They also broke the universe
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  there. If you look on her desk Sarah Silverman's character, she has a
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  Playmates action figure of the Telosian Keeper from the TS episode The Cage. So
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  how could Star Trek be a show on Star Trek show with merch? Right?
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  Right? So everything after that is meaningless. So that's it. We're
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  not even we're not even doing the show. What are we doing the show
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  for? Then we're done? Yeah? Little did we know everything ended in
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  nineteen ninety six? Amazing? Well, I mean, yeah, we've got
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  a big finale to go over. We've got news, we've got feedback,
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  so we should probably get going. Sure that's true. There's a lens player
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  to make up for. Yeah. Sorry, it's reigning in New York,
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  so no lens there. I'm sure I could. Let's see there's there.
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  Yeah, you can blind everybody watching on YouTube? Thank you? All right,
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  it's Our first news story comes from from screen Rant. This feels like
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  a million years ago, but a section thirty one show was announced on Monday.
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  Remember that? Yeah, I remember that. Yeah, it's not a
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  show, it's a movie. Or is that a movie in a mini Movie's
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  just a movie. It's a TV movie, TV movie. It was just
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  announced on Monday, and screen Rant is asking the big question. I know
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  Chad was asking this question. Got a million ms about this. Will Michael
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  Burnham appear in the section thirty one show? Oh yeah, I wasn't asking
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  that. Yeah. Uh. Basically the answers we don't know. Um,
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  we don't even know what Universe had said in did she go back to the
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  mirror universe? Out of them? Is jerk in our prime universe? Who
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  knows what what time frame it's in, So a lot of questions. Allegedly
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  this is going to start shooting at the end of the year. Wow,
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  yeah, we'll see, I say allegedly, because you know it's right up
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  there with Star Trek four. We'll see if it actually happened. Yeah.
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  Um. Our next news story comes to us from Collider and ed uh Splitzer.
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  The guy who plays Jack Crusher says he to play whatever his name is
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  man, Yeah, Splinter, just call him Splinter, him and the Ninja
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  Turtles. Yeah, we're saying that uh Ed wants to play Jack Crusher for
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  the next fifteen years for sure right now. This is the best thing he's
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  got going for him, probably well he was something better comes along. I
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  mean, he he could wind up being the replacement for those guys and the
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  Kings the Kingsmen, oh yeah, and the trilogy fit that. Or he
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  could be like the next the next heir to the Indie Indiana Jones things,
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  or the next air to whatever Shila Bou was supposed to do before he went
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  nuts, you know. I mean, he could be a bond he could
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  be I'm curious about that last scene, one of those last scenes he talks
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  about names meaning everything. Yeah, and they never referred to him by name,
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  yeah from that point forward. So I'm wondering it's you know, when
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  he signed up for Starfleet, is he Jack Crusher? Is he Jack Piccard
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  or Jack Crusher Piccard? You know what I think is happening. I think
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  a few things is happening at the end of that um, I think they
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  are late in it open to let the Internet decide and then whatever the majority
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  of fans want. Oh I like what happened? Oh weird? Yeah,
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  well he's ex borg now, so he's probably just Jack period, and his
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  pronouns are they that's a real scrush, dude, that's a real stretch to
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  get there. You weren't even trying with that one. So somebody I saw
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  me put it up, but they basically said I would watch Star Trek Waste
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  Extraction if Jerry Ryan was in it. Oh god, yeah, yeah,
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  yeah. All right. So our next new story comes to us from PC
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  magazine, and I've got to share this one. Hopefully it doesn't kill my
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  audio. But this thing is phenomenal. A an ex Apple employee, him
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  and some people have created a startup and they are creating basically real life com
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  badges with the universal translators in them more or less. So let me let
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  me show you this. This he's wearing a little badge. Let's show the
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  video on this. That's the badge, and it is speaking French as he
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  talks. So here, let me go back a little bit. Should feel
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  so natural to use that you almost forget about their existence, and then it
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  goes. It just translates for him, which is pretty neat. And then
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  here's the other thing it can do. So he's given his ted talk and
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  we agree. It gets a phone call and it projects onto his hand so
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  he can answer my wife. I'm gonna have to so m Yeah, it's
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  definitely interesting be available for us if they are working on it right now.
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  Is that what it did. It projected from the combadge onto his hand,
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  into his hand. Yeah, that's a smart way to do it, cheaply.
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  Yeah, you can do those kinds of heads up like that, real
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  cheap. Yeah. I think it's pretty neat. I thought you would like
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  that, Chad, you know, Yeah, yeah, I do. I
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  like that a lot. I hadn't seen never heard that anywhere. That's awesome.
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  Yeah, because I only get the news from you, Daniel, That's
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  right, literally get news seriously, I really any more nowadays. I don't
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  have the time or the Actually, I just just because I don't care.
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  I don't care any of the news other than the news we have here on
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  the show. I'll keep you up today. I'm patting them three. Don't
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  you worry that I don't want to know? And our last news story comes
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  to us from screen ran again and Season one of Strange New Worlds will soon
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  be coming to Pluto TV. So if you have not seen it and you
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  don't have Paramount Plus, it's going to be on Pluto TV for one month
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  in June. Um. The exact date I do not have, but it
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  will be on there for a month for thirty days the full season. So
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  if you have not watched it yet or you aren't paying for Paramount right now
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  and you want to see it before it starts back up again, it'll be
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  on there in June, and you can smart move. That's a very smart
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  move. Yeah, it's a smart move. So you're right, Eric,
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  it's going to become harder and harder to ignore the White's calls and text because
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  at some point this thing will be embedded in your head. That's right,
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  That's right. And I love and I love Eric's avatar by the way,
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  Yeah exactly, Yeah, yeah. What was his what was his line?
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  He's got a cup of coffee in his hand, you yeah, I mean,
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  I guess. The other quick news story is apparently we're going to be
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  getting a Galaxy Quest TV show that was also announced this week. If you
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  remember that, I remember, yeah, yeah, that was crazy. That
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  was that was announced. I remember that was announced around the same time as
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  The Orville, because I remember talking talking about these two things competing with each
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  other, both being oh yeah, you know Star Trek parodies. Right,
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  So it's interesting that they're Paramounts doing it, right because back when Dan was
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  talking about it, when that time period it was on Amazon, correct,
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  it wasn't part of it was it was going to be a different platform.
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  So it's just kind of I don't know, that's interesting. Hey, did
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  the rights migrate in one of these acquisitions? Not that I can read.
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  I think, well, no, I haven't read that the rights migrated.
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  But there is a thing where one streamer will make the show to sell to
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  another streamer, right, It's like White Paramount makes Yellowstone, but it's on
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  Peacock. Yeah, it's ridiculous. So it's kind of that deal. Is
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  my is my guests? Yeah? Yeah, I don't know. Yeah,
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  no word yet if any of the original Castle will be on this new Galaxy
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  Question show. They're going to completely reboot it. Who knows, Well,
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  they probably can't get They probably can't get Guy Um or Tim Allen he or
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  we Yeah, because he's he's blown up a little bit. That'd be too
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  expensive. He hasn't done too much since then, Sam Rockwell, yeah,
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  for a television show, they probably wouldn't. They probably get Tim Allen for
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  a television show. Yeah, but maybe for like a couple of episodes.
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  I don't know if Yeah, yeah, I'm not gonna get much money.
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  Like it's whether or not he wants to do it. It's not the paycheck.
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  True. Yeah, I think with most of those that's probably a matter
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  of do we want to have some fun with it or not? And how
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  much time does that take? Right? Right? Yeah, that's that's true.
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  That's that's fair enough. So I could see it just being a reboot
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  and let's go by the way. I love this sound of rain in the
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  background. We should do that every every week. It's it's so soothing.
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  You guys can barely but I can. Yeah, it's lovely. I don't
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  think an even the listeners might be able to hear. That's why I'm getting
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  sleepy. It's the rain sounds. Yeah, it's it's really nice. It's
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  really yeah, it's really really soothing. Yeah. Meditations with Chad, Welcome
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  to Sunday Morning and now the Downward Dog. Yes, when did this become
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  NPR? The soothing sounds of the macaw and the rainforest. Now my wife's
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  like, what the is he? What is he yelling about? Now?
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  Yeah, yeah, Scot's right. Rain Wilson would do would Yeah, he
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  would do any of it. Yeah, he needs to come back as Harry
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  Mud. I mean he wants to do. I was listening to a podcast
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  in Rain Wilson happened to be on it. It's for a completely different topic,
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  but he mentioned that he would love to come back. So ye,
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  yeah start hot. Star Trek is hot. It's so hot right now.
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  Yeah, it's about as hot as the spacexbfar blown up. Yes, Oh
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  wow, you went there. I went there. It was Hey, it
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  was a good it was a good run. We should talk about that.
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  If that's not part of your news story, we should talk about that real
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  quick. Yeah, because that's a big deal. And and so I'll give
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  you the I'll give you the quick overview and then shut up. Um,
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  but it is a big deal. And so SpaceX. The way they develop
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  rockets is a little late on that. Yeah, deep thought. The way
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  they develop rockets is they come up with a design, they start to build
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  it, and when they get ready to when they know they're gonna have some
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  sort of timeline for launching it. They're already building a second rocket, and
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  a third rocket and a fourth rocket. They do not wait to build the
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  next rocket until they get data back from the first one. That's not how
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  they do it. So they already have um rocket number two and three in
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  production. Rocket number two will launch within two to three months. Rocket number
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  three will launch within two to three months after that. They were waiting to
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  start rocket number four until they got these test results, and they are extremely
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  excited excited about what they got. So what they expected was was a fifty
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  fifty shot that this thing would blow up on the pad and they'd still get
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  dated from that. To keep in mind, this thing has thirty two rockets
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  or something like that, individual rockets that make up the bulk of this thing.
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  Each one of those rockets were built at a different time, with different
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  tolerances, with different sizes. They're not the same. It's not the exact
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  same thirty two rockets mass produced. It's not like the Falcon right. And
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  so they knew, Yeah, rapid, unscheduled disassembly, that's all it was.
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  Yeah, So all that being said, they were they were excited that
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  it just got off the launch pad. That right, there was a success
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  to them. Instead, what they got was four and a half minutes of
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  flight time and it went past the max que point. For those of you
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  who don't know, the max que point is the point at which in the
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  rockets travel it reaches the maximum amount of stress, pressure and fatigue on the
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  structure before gravity. The max cube point is when John de Lancy can't see
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  it anymore. That's true. Yeah, when when very good point, very
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  good point, He's like, I don't see it anymore. We're done,
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  We're done. It's yeah, yeah, anyway, uh, it did,
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  it did, but it made it past that point. That's huge. They
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  didn't expect that at all. They didn't expect it at all. Now here's
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  why. Here, here's why it should matter to everybody in terms of us
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  and getting to the point where we're living a star trek kind of life.
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  Sorry Dan. A Falcon rocket right now can launch seventeen metric tons per payload
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  at a cost of fifty million to okay, the new rocket can launch one
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  hundred metric tons, Like what is that? Eight times that? Seven times
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  the amount for two million per metric time. This is permitt ton costs per
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  metric ton. Right, so your amount that you can take goes up exponentially,
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  a huge amount, and the cost goes way down. In fact,
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  there's enough room in one rocket they could literally put the entire iss inside the
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  thing and launch it in one shot. So two to three months we'll see
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  another one. I'm done. Okay, all right, it's cool stuff.
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  It's cool stuff. Cool, it's it's just rocket signs. Yeah, there
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  you go. It's the future. It is the future. All right,
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  let's stretchaw, it's the future, Wesley, all right, main topic?
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  Fine, well now, main topic only talking about that. Nothing happens.
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  Nothing happened. Man, a good seeing everybody. Yeah, we're done.
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  No, it's the last Generation. That's the final name of the episode,
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  which kind of sucked that it's called the last Generation. I didn't quite understand
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  that title. But anyway, um, the last generation to be unassembled.
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  I don't know. Uh No, it's not it's not the last as in
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  there are no more. It's it's the other meaning of last, like previous.
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  Yeah, Chaz, why do we need to talk about space? Oh?
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  Kujo, you're right, put that back up. If they don't play
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  faith of the Heart with a successful launch, in orbit. They screwed up.
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  You're damned straight, buddy, you are damned straight. That's right.
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  So no one elong he probably would elon knowing elon you probably anyway. You
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  know what's the funniest part about that, Daniel correcting someone for pronouncing something that's
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  right. See. You know who else does that? Jonathan Franks? Yeah,
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  that guy from Star Trek. He's my favorite Star Trek uh storm trooper.
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  There you go. Is he part of the Victorian Guard? Yes,
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  I believe Yeah, he's one of the Sailor moons. Yeah yeah. Uh
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  anyway, okay, so this was the finale. Um, we got so
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  many things that we wanted. Uh. They they really wrapped up this plot
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  from the whole season pretty fast. And actually he Long is moren name?
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  Yeah you meant born name? Yeah Long this is porn name. Guarantee,
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  there's somebody with that name. We can't get on track. I tell you
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  what, just a bag of cats on this show. We made a list,
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  by the way, ladies and gentlemen, we made a list of top
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  Star Trek podcasts, and we were in the top twenty and I think we
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  were ranked like the fifteenth or something. But the description of the show was
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  what had me rolling, and it was something like, um, these are
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  three guys that this isn't like any other podcast you've ever listen. And two,
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  honestly, there's just three guys who just talk about Trek sometimes and that's
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  kind of what holds it together. And then they just talk. It's hilarious.
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  You really need to listen to it, Like that's that's the description of
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  the show. Yeah, didn't they take that from our website? Though?
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  No, it's not. No, no, they described it. Yeah,
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  they described it pretty well. It wasn't from our website. Somebody listened to
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  the show. But what's funny is like most pop culture cut podcasts are more
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  like us than most Star Trek podcasts. Yea. Most Star Trek podcasts are
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  like very structured, and yeah we're not. Most Star Trek podcasts are like,
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  okay, so when he went up there, why didn't that connect to
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  the other? Like Tube one is not next to Tube four? Like they've
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  messed it's so illogical. I just had to open the chamatic from nineteen seventy
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  four. It's right there. Okay, can we can we get back to
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  the episode. Oh yeah, so there was a show anyways, So the
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  Gard and the Olds. They're They're like, we're gonna go fight this cube.
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  We've had it. I've had it with these borgs on my starship.
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  Now now I'm my planet. You know. It's it's really interesting though,
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  because there's so many things they built up for this whole seat. Ye,
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  you're right, fifty fifty split between bullshit and trek um. They really built
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  up what's behind the Red Door to be some big bad thing. They really
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  built and once they revealed it, it was a borg that was a really
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  built up things in Holy shit, because of all everybody, they assimilate the
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  entire fleet, and they really built up the threat of the changelings as well,
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  only to come to find out it's a shell game. It was a
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  shell game. The Borg Queen has literally been eating herself alive for who knows
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  how long in that cube, try to sustain herself to get to where she
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  can do some more assimilation. Yeah. Is that the same cue from the
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  Voyager finale? Yes, We're that's that's what Terry Mattellis alluded to on the
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  Will Wheaton Show before I Suffer for the People. So the Red Door.
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  The first time Picard saw the Board Queen was in First Contact and the doors
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  on the Enterprise were red. Is that? I mean, it was obviously
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  a different style door, but is that what they're referencing. Is that why
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  it's a red door. I have not seen it anywhere made that. I
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  have not seen an explanation on the red doors period. I think you're just
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  like saying red things, red angel, red door, red herring lady,
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  red lady angel. Yeah, I had the red lady, right, So,
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  I mean yeah, so yeah, I think it's like the red red
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  alert m red shirts, red shirts must it's just red. It's just like
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  it's just like forty two and twenty one, I mean, was right they
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  like the color red? Yep? Yeah, Um dude, this was Star
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  Wars. This was Star Wars. In Star Trek they had doing that to
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  me. I don't get that. Okay, So in Star Wars, right,
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  Luke has to go confront the Emperor because he's gonna save his dad Vader,
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  right, Yeah, and then what do you have here, Um,
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  Picard is gonna go say confront the emperor, I mean board queen to save
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  his son or father however you want to put it, because he's been turned
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  to the dark side. Yeah, and he goes Son, I know they're
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  still good in you. I'm gonna pull you out of it. Vader,
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  I know they're still good in you. I'm gonna pull you out of it.
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  And literally inside the board cube. Yeah yeah, let's just blow this
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  chip jewey and let's go home. Yeah. So, I mean it was
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  Star Wars. It was great. Yeah, so I read that as land
• 25:06
  It was interesting. Okay, So we saw we saw the Enterprise D for
• 25:12
  seven years plus um, between seven seasons of TNG and then Generations, and
• 25:22
  all of those were model model shots, yeah, okay, which you can
• 25:26
  basically shoot it from three sides at a time because it's suspended by a stick
• 25:33
  holding it on the fourth side. And this Enterprise D was obviously not a
• 25:41
  model. This was a CGI model. So it was amazing, um,
• 25:47
  just seeing the ship do things that it couldn't do in the late eighties and
• 25:52
  the early nineties because of the limitations of special effects. So, I mean,
• 26:00
  it was the Enterprise D, but they were flying it like it was
• 26:03
  the Millennium Falcon. It was, and it was nice to see that because
• 26:08
  you know, when I was a kid and I had an Enterprise D,
• 26:12
  I was flying it like the Millennium Falcon. I wasn't just you know,
• 26:18
  they were screen giving a captain's log. They weren't flying it like them and
• 26:22
  liveing Falcon. They were hugging the donkey. Oh yeah, yeah in the
• 26:27
  end when they you know, when they when they kind of fish Dale in
• 26:32
  there and swing the ass end of the Enterprise down to to up. I
• 26:36
  mean I never saw that. I guessed that the series and that was lost.
• 26:40
  And did you did you see who was driving when all that happened,
• 26:44
  Yes, it was and now again Deanna. It was Deanna. She said
• 26:48
  I know where they are, and she ran over and took the con and
• 26:52
  started driving like a Yeah, I've been playing with my d thirty eight years.
• 27:02
  We're doing that again. Put that one backup too. By the way,
• 27:04
  Tie is right. I said last week we were not going to get
• 27:07
  them sitting around playing poker at the end of it. And where did we
• 27:11
  get We got them all sitting around. Oh I was wrong again. Not
• 27:14
  only that, I'm the Will Wheaton show. They've mentioned that that scene where
• 27:18
  they're playing poker was literally a forty five minute scene. They were all just
• 27:22
  sitting there, just going and Terry mcgell's just they've got it all on tape,
• 27:26
  all of it ye minutes and he's like, maybe someday we'll release it
• 27:30
  on a special Blu ray or something. But yeah, well, I mean,
• 27:33
  if you want to get natural reactions of seven friends sitting around, um,
• 27:38
  let them sit around for forty five minutes, and that's exactly what you'll
• 27:41
  get. Yeah, yeah, yeah, So, um. The other thing
• 27:48
  I just thought about that made it more Star Wars is h date. So
• 27:53
  Jordi says, we can't fly through that thing. It's too complicated, it's
• 27:56
  impossible. The computer can't handle that. Yeah, I got I'm gonna do
• 28:03
  this. I got a gun now. But it was interesting. But it
• 28:07
  was interesting, you know, hearing him say that and also hearing his his
• 28:15
  his frustration that no one's willing to trust his gut because you're not you don't
• 28:18
  have a gun. What are you talking about? Way man, you can't
• 28:22
  do this right, So it was it was good seeing him definitely. Yeah.
• 28:29
  And Jordian, uh, Jordian command I like that. Um. It
• 28:34
  also flipped the script a little bit because on the show, when when Ryker
• 28:38
  and Picard were off the ship, it was data. Yeah, it was
• 28:41
  a second officer, so he was in command, except that Data is uncommissioned
• 28:47
  at this point, and Jordi is a commissioned officer with the rank of commodore.
• 28:53
  So yeah, he's in he's in command, and he's and he's damn
• 28:57
  good at it from what we saw. So that was nice. Why didn't
• 29:02
  they trust data because he doesn't have a gut? Because it made for a
• 29:07
  good line. Yeah, Well, because it showed his character development that he
• 29:11
  said, I trust me at it, I feel in him my gut,
• 29:12
  and they and they took a leap of faith on him. So because in
• 29:17
  a lot of ways, he's not the data they know, he's mixture of
• 29:21
  data and before and lore and so like, yeah, he's got a lot
• 29:23
  of the traits that they remember and memories. But yeah, exactly, if
• 29:29
  you yeah, if you go back, I'm sorry if you go back to
• 29:32
  what was it? Which one was this where he gets the emotion chip for
• 29:36
  the first time and he's losing his mind and he can't do anything and he's
• 29:38
  with Jordy, remember, so I forget which movie that was Generations? Was
• 29:45
  it Generations? Yeah? It was Generations? Yeah, So I mean he
• 29:48
  can't do anything against what's his name spiky hair, Malcolm whatever. Oh yeah,
• 29:56
  yeah, Malcolm Gladwell, Malcolm Gladwell. Yeah, I can't think of
• 29:59
  his name. Is out any McDowell. Yeah, he can't do anything against
• 30:03
  any mcdwell. He's totally he's really scared. Annie mcdel rules the universe.
• 30:08
  We all know that. It was also interesting, you know, he's going
• 30:11
  through these these emotions and he's feeling things in his gut and he expressed hate
• 30:21
  for an entire race of people. That's significant. Yeah, that's significant.
• 30:30
  And Troy could feel his because his emotions too, yeah, which is interesting.
• 30:36
  Yeah, I'm not sure I get that because he's no, he's synthetic,
• 30:40
  just like Picard is. So I'm not really sure how you get.
• 30:42
  But I don't know. I guess if you think about it from the standpoint
• 30:48
  of if telepaths can read your mind, and obviously your body's putting off some
• 30:52
  sort of wavelengths, right, and so it's just a matter of transmission and
• 30:55
  receiving, just like the Bords transmission and receiving. So I mean even a
• 30:59
  synthetic, if it's done right, could do the same thing. So whatever,
• 31:03
  let's see it is what it is. So well, and they did
• 31:06
  say before with the card that the synth robot body is almost indistinguishably different from
• 31:12
  the human body. So yeah, it's just a sleeve. At this point,
• 31:17
  we're watching the future of altered carbon. I mean yeah, so um
• 31:23
  so um Warfs into threesomes, Yes, very much so. The lines from
• 31:32
  Warf and Riker this whole season, man, this whole season are just fantastic.
• 31:37
  I laughed so hard. But my favorite did he had a gun in
• 31:41
  his sword, and swords are fun. Swords are fun. You know.
• 31:48
  It also showed us exactly how strong yeah that when Riker grabbed the sword,
• 31:52
  he's like Jesus Christ didn't realize what was happy now you could even pick it
• 31:56
  up. Yeah. So he's older too though, right, and so Cleon's
• 31:59
  agel different. They're already stronger than age a little different. So yeah,
• 32:01
  it's but but yes, it's uh it's kind of like the dark Saber,
• 32:06
  right, so uh, Mando can't pick it up, but Bokaton can right
• 32:15
  when record drops the sort Yeah that's pretty great. Um yeah, that was
• 32:21
  fun. I like that. There was like four or five different endings and
• 32:28
  it didn't it kept going and just kept going like Rord of the ring style.
• 32:30
  Yeah, yeah, but I was I loved it though, I loved
• 32:35
  every minute of it. I was fine with that. Um so what do
• 32:37
  you think about them? Just? Well, it was weird because when they
• 32:40
  put the D, the Enterprise D back in a cold storage or whatever you
• 32:47
  want to call it, yea, when they shut it down, that was
• 32:51
  after the one year jump. Yeah, so what was it doing for a
• 32:54
  year? I don't know. This one or jump is odd to me.
• 33:00
  Yeah, it's very odd. And I also noticed that, um, we
• 33:06
  absolutely did not get to see Laris again. Yeah even even Yeah, she's
• 33:14
  just sitting by the pool waiting like, no, he's coming, he's coming,
• 33:17
  he's setting it here. Yeah. Well, um, I think your
• 33:22
  answer for what was the D doing for a year will be shimply answered in
• 33:25
  comic book and long form Marvel form. That's that's what's gonna happen. It's
• 33:35
  a multimedia experience. Yeah, it's your book. There's your book, there's
• 33:38
  a comic book, and there's your video game. And if you get all
• 33:43
  three, you get the whole story. And don't don't forget for mobile games.
• 33:49
  The mobile game for happened. Yeah, Laris who exactly exactly exactly She's
• 33:58
  gonna be the villain for US season four if they do it, She's gonna
• 34:00
  be like the bittered, angry lad got left. That's what will be the
• 34:06
  entire season actually, which would be hilarious. I would watch the whole season.
• 34:08
  If Laris comes after Picard, Vosh comes after Piccard crushers chasing him down
• 34:15
  because he left again. I mean, she's going after Jack because if she
• 34:19
  can't have a Picard, nobody can have a Pcard. Yeah, why is
• 34:25
  Lars? Who? Larius? Where Larius? Why Laris? Yeah, nothing
• 34:34
  goes over my head exactly, jump up and catch it. Yeah, hey,
• 34:39
  Larris, I'm sorry, dicks along. By the way, I have
• 34:42
  a kid. Well you haven't gone for nine months, piccarda, but he's
• 34:47
  twenty six. Yeah uh yeah, Oh go ahead. Now she's just gonna
• 34:59
  say. The scene in the Shuttlecraft that one year later was it was verily
• 35:04
  It was very hey, we're a happy family now. Yeah, yeah,
• 35:07
  it really was. Without saying it, it was very we're a happy family
• 35:10
  now, and without doing something with that Laris um storyline, it was kind
• 35:19
  of awkward. You know, it is it is the future. Perhaps it's
• 35:24
  an open marriage. Oh boy, just say Um, what do we think
• 35:30
  about the Titan being renamed they called the Enterprise G or whatever was un I
• 35:40
  don't know. Yeah, not a fan of that, honestly, Yeah,
• 35:45
  really not a fan of it either would have been I would have been a
• 35:49
  bigger fan of Um. Then talking about how the fleet is decimated because of
• 35:59
  this, and because of that, the D is going to stay in service
• 36:04
  for the time being that the G will come later, but in the meantime,
• 36:10
  the D is back in service. And Yeah, whether it's seven that
• 36:15
  gets it or a Riker that that's what I would have liked to see Captain
• 36:20
  Riker on the Enterprise D, because really that's what he wanted all along.
• 36:24
  Yeah, people are saying that they should have been renamed the Piccard or Piccard
• 36:30
  the USS Piccard. Well, I guess my maybe, but if it was
• 36:36
  going to be named after him, it should be the USS John Luke Picard,
• 36:39
  right. So, But UM, my thing with it is is if
• 36:44
  it's a year later, have they not built any other ships and the Enterprise
• 36:51
  of that time that we saw on DOC with Admiral what's her name on board?
• 36:55
  Uh? Did it? Was? It destroyed? It obviously was destroyed.
• 37:00
  Um. Otherwise they couldn't rename the tightened to the Yeah, us Shaw,
• 37:04
  that would have been good too. Um, we got to talk about
• 37:07
  that. Well, I guess we already talked about that because he died before.
• 37:09
  But anyway, Um, he showed up as a forest ghost. I
• 37:13
  mean, uh, but um no, I don't understand, like, how
• 37:22
  many ships were blown up? Is the fleet really decimated? How many ships
• 37:27
  were blown up in that fight? They didn't. They didn't say that I'm
• 37:30
  saying. I'm saying I would have preferred that they, you know, say
• 37:37
  that that happened. The fleet was decimated. We have such a shortage of
• 37:40
  ships. Um, the Enterprise was destroyed, the Enterprise f was destroyed.
• 37:46
  We're putting We're putting the d back in service, We're putting Voyager back in
• 37:51
  service. We're putting the Defiant back in service, and you know, not
• 37:57
  forever while they rebuild the fleet. You know, these these these oldies have
• 38:01
  to come out of off balls. Well I can understand that from right at
• 38:06
  the end of the whole thing. But a year later, you would think
• 38:07
  they'd have ships rebuilt. It's a year. Yeah, I don't know why
• 38:10
  they did the year jump. The year jump is strange. It makes sense.
• 38:15
  It didn't need it all. Yeah, the only the only thing about
• 38:19
  the year jump that makes any sense at all is setting up Jack for another
• 38:24
  series. That is it. There's no other purpose for it, and it's
• 38:29
  weird and it's odd, and it's only gonna look okay in retrospect looking back
• 38:34
  if they use him for legacy or whatever they come up with. Yeah,
• 38:39
  then it makes sense. And then that ending scene also makes sense with they
• 38:45
  could have very easily without doing the jump. They could have very easily done
• 38:52
  a very short jump showing him beginning at Starfleet Academy. Yeah, and then
• 38:58
  if they do another show, you know, it's gonna be two or three
• 39:02
  years until that show comes out, and they could you know, he could
• 39:07
  have graduated by that point and be an ends. And they it was kind
• 39:10
  of weird that they're just like, oh, we accelerated as his stuff and
• 39:14
  he's an ens and now even though it's only a year, well, not
• 39:16
  only that, he's sitting right next to the damn captain m hm. Yeah,
• 39:22
  Specials did not attend start exactly, and a year ago we saw her
• 39:27
  and she was a federous ranger, but now she's the first officer on a
• 39:31
  Federation starship. So I mean there are some unanswered questions. Now she's and
• 39:37
  now she's Captain of the Enterprise and captain of the Enterprise. Yeah, yeah,
• 39:43
  the flagship. That's what I'm saying. If they had if they had
• 39:46
  done the whole Hey, the fleet is decimated. We need to bring some
• 39:50
  of these old ships out of mothballs. She could have been the captain of
• 39:53
  Voyager, which is the ship that she was. Yeah, googly googly.
• 40:00
  I'd over four episodes, right, So don't get me wrong. I love
• 40:05
  I love this show. I love this season. I love the showy finale.
• 40:08
  I'm you know, there were some other decisions they could have made that
• 40:13
  I that I would have liked. But um, I think you said to
• 40:16
  you guys in our private chat that this is the first time in years that
• 40:20
  I'm legitimately excited about. Yeah, Star Trek. One really weird nitpick I
• 40:27
  had is when they were shutting down the Enterprise d it was Jordy who said
• 40:31
  initiate shutdown sequence and not piccard. I felt like piccard should have been the
• 40:37
  way to say that. Well, it's and I get it because it's Geordie's
• 40:40
  running the museum. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but yeah, I bet
• 40:46
  they went back and forth on that. I'm sure so with Voyager. Teaber
• 40:51
  Coom said Harry was a captain of the Voyager. Oh yeah, a little
• 40:53
  bit of there's a little bit of information that was dropped after what yesterday or
• 40:59
  the day before, Yeah, something like that. That there was some stuff
• 41:01
  in the finale that they either filmed or had written but then cut, as
• 41:07
  in a scene with Jane Way, a scene with Harry Kim that was filmed.
• 41:14
  Where's this article at? I think it was written, but then they
• 41:15
  did not, not not including it, but yeah, it was. They
• 41:19
  were planning on having at least Janeway, Harry Kim and one other member of
• 41:22
  Voyager back. How about how about that voice in the beginning check off?
• 41:28
  Yes, yes, Van talking about that Anton check off, the president Anton
• 41:36
  check off. I thought that was I thought that was beautiful. I almost
• 41:38
  forgot to mention that, thank you, that that was beautiful. Yeah,
• 41:40
  that was really well done. Yep. I had to back up and listen
• 41:44
  to it again. I was like, whoa hold on? And I backed
• 41:46
  up to watch and listen that again. That's got to be check off,
• 41:49
  It isn't. It's amazing. Yeah, exactly, Tiber they cut it.
• 41:53
  It's crazy. Yeah, I don't know, saving it for the leg act.
• 42:00
  I I see Harry, Harry is screwed again, Yeah exactly. I
• 42:04
  mean that's only it's only right that Harry gets screwed again and not physically screwed
• 42:09
  like because right, he doesn't get laid either. Yes, it was antony.
• 42:14
  Yeah, that's where they got the anton of it. Yep, yep,
• 42:16
  exactly. Yeah. Yeah, that was great, man, it was
• 42:19
  it was fantastic. Oh yeah, that's right. In that article they said,
• 42:22
  um in that article they said Rowe was supposed to still make it at
• 42:24
  the end too. How I don't know, but that's how that In that
• 42:28
  article, if you read it, the ending had um Roe, Larin,
• 42:31
  Harry, Kim, and uh Janguys showing up somehow. U. So maybe
• 42:37
  they're all forced ghosts maybe Yeah. Yeah, that's that's how Harry is a
• 42:45
  captain in in in his Dreams and the bed in the Mirror universe. Yeah
• 42:49
  yeah, yep, yep, yeah. Man. Uh, I'm amazed they
• 42:54
  have not announced legacy yet, Like, what the hell are they thinking?
• 43:01
  Well, they announced academy and so now they're like, ah, crap,
• 43:06
  I really hope that they're they're sitting down right now, reevaluating, reevaluating.
• 43:13
  Yeah, because Legacy is a show that everyone wants to see. Yeah,
• 43:20
  Um, nobody wants the Academy. Nobody wants to see Academy specifically because of
• 43:28
  what they've said about it so far. Everybody would want to see Academy if
• 43:31
  they did one thing change the time period Academy starts the moment this season finale
• 43:39
  ended and we see Jack Crusher in the Academy. M I don't even think
• 43:46
  you need to do that. You don't have to have Jack Crusher. I
• 43:51
  think I think it's just the time period. It is time period that people
• 43:54
  want to see. You don't want to see that other time period. Nope.
• 43:59
  So and I think they need to sit down, look at the numbers,
• 44:04
  look at how they hit it out of the park, and basically let
• 44:10
  Terry Mattalis write his own check. Yes, that's what they need to do
• 44:16
  this. If this season proved anything to anybody in paramount, what it should
• 44:22
  have proved was we had a vision at the beginning of all of this with
• 44:27
  Kurtzman and Kurtsman, had a vision of how to expand this into a broader
• 44:30
  universe, a lot of different shows coming from different angles. That vision's dead.
• 44:37
  Yeah, sorry, if you work out that vision's dead, it didn't
• 44:42
  work out. The vision we have right now with what this season did,
• 44:46
  and in this timeline, this is what we need to use and branch out
• 44:52
  and make a universe around everything going on in this timeline period end of story.
• 44:59
  That is, everything needs to happen at where this one just left off,
• 45:04
  whether it's Legacy going in one direction but in the same timeline, whether
• 45:07
  it's UH Academy, whatever there. I don't know why they think they need
• 45:12
  to do section thirty one still, Um. The only thing that would make
• 45:16
  section thirty one interesting to me is, well, two things would make it
• 45:20
  interesting. Number One, she goes back in time, but she's in the
• 45:22
  mirror universe and tries desperately to get back to the prime for some reason.
• 45:27
  I don't know. Maybe that's kind of interesting, not really. Yes,
• 45:29
  there are disco fans, I know, um, and there are a lot
• 45:32
  of disco fans, let's not get ourselves here. There are a lot,
• 45:36
  right, and so I'm sure those fans will will want to see that.
• 45:39
  But the oh sure would be interesting is if if if when she comes back
• 45:44
  in time. Um, she comes back to this right here, right now
• 45:51
  and becomes and becomes the lead up to Late Like see, they could they
• 45:54
  could rethink this right now and say, okay, here's what we do.
• 45:58
  We get the disco fans and they put in the New Picard and strange New
• 46:00
  World fans right and we could put them together by making the set Michelle Yo
• 46:06
  when she goes back in time, she doesn't go back and she goes back
• 46:07
  in time, but she goes to this time right now and she's in the
• 46:10
  movie. Sets up her screwing around with Q or as Q or whatever.
• 46:16
  Yeah, um, screwing around with Jack Crusher on the Titan, on the
• 46:20
  Enterprise, whatever, and that sets up Legacy the show. That would be
• 46:24
  faniastic that it's an idea. My thought is it's interesting that both Star Wars
• 46:30
  and Star Trek have had this interesting thing where they tried to go a different
• 46:35
  direction. Clearly the fans didn't want it, and now they're backtracking and trying
• 46:39
  to fix it. Right. You had the same thing with the Mandalorian and
• 46:43
  everything else. That's that's the timeline people wanted. That's the type the you
• 46:47
  know, the era of Star Trek or Star Wars people wanted and now you
• 46:52
  have the same thing with with Star Trek, right, we want to see
• 46:54
  this timeline. So what's funny too, is like it's a essentially the same
• 47:00
  producer group, right, it's that whole Bad Robot crew. I know it's
• 47:04
  not jj Abrams huh. I know that's a bad Robot, but it's not
• 47:09
  like you said, rad Robot, No bad Robot. It's j J Abrams
• 47:14
  and his people, like his his guys that that all kind of worked on
• 47:16
  it. So it's those same people. But I mean, they have to
• 47:21
  keep learning their lesson. It's the same lesson. It's so sad. But
• 47:23
  they're not learning because they're just announced last week they're doing they're doing another uh
• 47:29
  Daisy Ridley Star Wars right, right? What so they don't listen? Yeah,
• 47:35
  yeah, I didn't see that. I missed that. Dan didn't tell
• 47:37
  me about it, so I Daniel didn't tell me about it. Well,
• 47:39
  it's not Star Trek News, it's Star Wars News. Oh that's why I
• 47:42
  didn't know. Yeah, yeah, I forgot which podcast I was on.
• 47:45
  That's right. I know they alluded to Janeway so much. I don't understand
• 47:52
  why I thought that was a slam dunk to thrower in there. No,
• 47:55
  I can't. I just seen at the end with Tuvak. That should have
• 48:00
  been Janeway. That's exactly where she. That should have been y yeah,
• 48:04
  or it should have been Tuva and Jane Way. Yeah. I was fine
• 48:07
  with it being Tuvak in light of was not knowing if he was dead or
• 48:09
  alive. I was. I was happy to see him and then he's alive.
• 48:13
  Um, well, it was just awesome. Wars not dead jazz biz.
• 48:16
  Oh my gosh, the fans are wrong. It was awkward that it
• 48:21
  was Tuvak because he is not in her chain of command. Yeah, he
• 48:25
  is, you know, captain of a different ship. So why is you
• 48:30
  know, why is she reporting to him about this stuff? Why is he
• 48:36
  evaluating her crew? Why is he looking at her crew evaluation? It just
• 48:39
  it kind of didn't make sense. But if Jane Way he was doing it,
• 48:44
  yeah, and Tuvak was there, because you know, they were all
• 48:46
  in the family, it would have made sense. Yeah. Was he promoted?
• 48:52
  Was he an admiral at that point or what he was just a captain?
• 48:55
  He was still a captain. Interesting. I didn't pick up on that
• 48:58
  that is kind of odd that one captain to a suppose another um our second
• 49:02
  officer. Man, I don't, I don't know. Are there captain's like
• 49:06
  middle management in sturfleet? Is that what I'm understanding? The store manager of
• 49:12
  a target basically, well, they're a franchise own. They're a franchise owner.
• 49:15
  Okay. Captain is both a rank and a position. Okay, okay,
• 49:20
  if you're the captain of a ship, it doesn't matter what your rank
• 49:22
  is. You could be a commander, but this is your ship, so
• 49:25
  they addressed him as captain. Captain is also a rank. It's four pips,
• 49:30
  so you can be a you can hold the rank of captain. But
• 49:36
  I'm a security officer, so I'm I don't have a ship under my command,
• 49:40
  but I hold the rank of captain. Or like um Scottie was captain
• 49:45
  of engineering, he had the rank of captain, but he was the chief
• 49:47
  engineer right ship. So you know, I suppose you could have tuvakas a
• 49:57
  captain and he works directly underneath this admiral doing administrative stuff. But they already
• 50:02
  established that. Now he's the captain of this this other ship which I don't
• 50:09
  know which ship it was. The funkiest ship of them all. Yeah,
• 50:20
  no, I mean really, the I mean Starfleet is um is Walmart and
• 50:22
  the well it is it's the home store there in in Arkansas, and all
• 50:28
  the individual captains are the franchise are the not franchise's but the store actual store
• 50:32
  locations out and scattered all over the place, the actual Walmart's right, So
• 50:36
  the captains are the store managers of that store, and they of course have
• 50:38
  regional managers, which are the admirals. Like the idea, these are all
• 50:43
  just Walmart's just flying and they're trying people. Well yeah, because they're trying
• 50:45
  to spread out and and get everybody's part of Starfleet and shut down all the
• 50:50
  small stores and everything else. You have to assimilate into Starfleet. What department
• 50:53
  is the self checkout? Is that the replicators? Yes? So is Tubac
• 50:58
  assistant regional manager or is he assistant to the regional manager. He's the assistant
• 51:05
  regional manager to the assistant manager of the regional director. Was not on the
• 51:09
  excels here? Yeah? He was not correct? Yeah, assignment there has
• 51:15
  assignment is complete? Is Amazon the board correct? Yes? They have a
• 51:20
  great supply chain, just like the transwarp conduits. Yeah exactly. I mean
• 51:23
  it's just this is what it is. Does that make the Klingon's like Auto
• 51:28
  Zone or NAPA, I don't know, completely different. Actually we could,
• 51:34
  we could put everybody in context of franchise ease of coffee shops. Right,
• 51:38
  you've got Dutch Bros. You've got Starbucks, you've got Um Scooters, you've
• 51:45
  got completely the board exactly. Yeah, yeah, Starbucks is the board.
• 51:53
  Dutch Bros. Would be star Fleet because they're all inclusive. Which one is
• 51:57
  Dunkin Donuts? You don't even heard Dutch Bros. It's over here. It's
• 52:01
  it's pretty good. Yeah, Duncan Dutch Bros. Is you take the coffee,
• 52:07
  you get the sweet types of coffee. You would get a Caribou,
• 52:10
  only it's twice the price, um for less coffee. And everybody, are
• 52:15
  you guys familiar with Tim Wharton's Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, they're
• 52:19
  they're big in Canada. Um not around. Yeah, my wife bought some
• 52:23
  cake cups, some Tim mohartons cake cups on it, okay, and holy
• 52:28
  shit, is it the best coffee I've ever had? Really, it's good.
• 52:30
  It's amazing. Yeah, it's amazing. All right, So cheers tar
• 52:36
  Canadian friends, Joyce joy some Timmis today, think Timmy, should we get
• 52:45
  to feedback? Yes we should. I'm plugging in the Hey. I love
• 52:58
  that. Hey at the end of it, that's right. Tim Hortons would
• 53:01
  be the packleads because I can't get your order right. Oh really, it's
• 53:07
  that's good to know. I didn't know it was like that. That's funny.
• 53:10
  I've only been there once. Yeah h h all right, uh Chad,
• 53:19
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• 53:24
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• 54:06
  the hard working folk at trek Task for a job well done. See you
• 54:13
  out fair nice nice, hard working. Yeah yeah, those were hard working.
• 54:24
  He assumes assumptions, right, okay. Thanks. One following is an
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  editorial by Federation News Networks, Space Gentry, Good morning Trek Caster as well.
• 54:39
  Q Dan singings, It's been a long road. I can't join you
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  live today, but couldn't let this monumental occasion go by without calling in.
• 54:49
  What a ride it has been. We got action and humor, nostalgia,
• 54:54
  and enough Easter egg to keep us occupied until Strange New Worlds come back in
• 55:00
  June. But this really was the farewell that PNG deserved. The Riders sound
• 55:07
  a way to bring back so many of the characters that we love in a
• 55:09
  thoughtful way, and even though we doubted their vision at times, they pulled
• 55:14
  it off, and in doing so, they've raised the ocean level for all
• 55:17
  of Trek so that every shift's going to float higher. Now our has been
• 55:22
  raised once again, and we're all going to benefit from it. Great pleasures
• 55:28
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• 55:31
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• 55:36
  of you who had the borget Earth with a candlestick transporter created biological borg receivers,
• 55:45
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  News Network, Times, Space, Gentry Live and Prosper And thanks guys.
• 56:02
  Awesome, that's Gentry. Thanks great Gentry. We love hearing from you
• 56:07
  guys. Yeah, what a great send off to get both of them.
• 56:08
  Finally, that's awesome. Um, that's amazing. Great. We've got a
• 56:14
  few people callers on the line, so I got first Chatz Bizz, so
• 56:19
  let's bring him on there. He is one more audio for later, just
• 56:23
  so yeah, okay, well we'll do it after chests Bizz. Yeah,
• 56:25
  yeah, okay, what's going on? Man? I know much. That
• 56:30
  was awesome And to the series, it was it was which is your favorite
• 56:36
  ending of it? It was like the Lord of the Rings returning the King,
• 56:40
  where yeah, maybe he's over, then you got forty five minutes.
• 56:45
  Sorry, just keeps going on. When they were on the bed was my
• 56:49
  favorite. I kept pausing it and checking. I'm like, oh, there's
• 56:52
  twelve minutes left, all right, Yeah, there's eight minutes left, all
• 56:54
  right. Yeah. Well it was cool because they they you got to see
• 56:59
  everybody's ending in a way. Yeah, And I thought WARF's gonna die,
• 57:05
  Riker's gonna die, Card's gonna die. One of them to die. Yeah,
• 57:08
  I was like, one of these people, it's gonna sacrifice in jails.
• 57:13
  They so, yeah, they just went to Orlando. Yeah, that's
• 57:20
  how great the therapist Troy is. She's playing on her phone finding a trip,
• 57:28
  not listening to data. Is like, ah, he's just throwing it
• 57:30
  on whatever. I was like, Orlando or this other planet, let's go
• 57:34
  here. So yeah, yeah, you did they hint that? Um did
• 57:39
  they hint that she pretty much disregards counselor patient confidentiality and just tells Riker everything.
• 57:47
  Robots don't count exactly. That's right, it doesn't matter. It's just
• 57:54
  data, and guys failed to mention this. I'm bringing that back to sandwiches,
• 58:01
  right, okay, okay, the cook took over the helm. Yes,
• 58:07
  that's right, because remember the cook took over the helm and the only
• 58:12
  reason why he didn't do his flying was because his brother had a hernie and
• 58:15
  he had to take over the belly. Do you know who that actor is?
• 58:22
  He seems really familiar. He didn't seem familiar. That was pretty good.
• 58:27
  I'm hoping if they get legacy, bring that guy back, and I
• 58:30
  want to see his progression to becoming a badass. You know who he is?
• 58:37
  Yeah, yeah, but but on this, on that scene, in
• 58:38
  that moment, you know who he was. No, No, he was
• 58:43
  what's his name in the elevator um from uh Orville. Yes, the guy
• 58:51
  who would always be saying, mom, Dan. I always find this elevator
• 58:58
  music really soothing. What do you guys think it's a great day to stay
• 59:06
  in the Federation? Huh? Guy, y, I'm really glad I'm here.
• 59:09
  I wouldn't be here if my brother Timmy hadn't broke his thumb on you
• 59:13
  know, on an hour or whatever. Yeah, that's a that was hilarious.
• 59:19
  You're right. I completely forgot about that scene. And then Beverly you
• 59:22
  like, learned how to use phasers and torpedoes and they all look back at
• 59:27
  her and they're like, what's going on here? So yeah, that was
• 59:30
  pretty awesome. Yeah. I was like, and I mean this, this
• 59:34
  whole season was just it was actually great. And I was thinking about rewatches.
• 59:40
  Will I rewatch season one and two? Or will I just skip those
• 59:44
  two and go straight to them? Yeah? Exactly. You don't want to
• 59:47
  be watched those first two seasons because they're shit, and this one was the
• 59:51
  big d You know what to be fair like the original T and G didn't
• 59:54
  get good until season three. Fair point, Yeah, yeah, fair point.
• 1:00:00
  And I want to know how big is the Sport Cube? I mean
• 1:00:04
  it was because think how big the Enterprise d is. It's flying through this
• 1:00:07
  thing and you got Orlando and Niam done sitting there. You know. To
• 1:00:16
  me, the most realistic thing is afterwards when Worf sits down and just immediately
• 1:00:20
  falls asleep. Yeah. Yeah, that's not my wife. It's like when
• 1:00:24
  I'm talking to her, I like her, She's like, oh she's she's
• 1:00:28
  she's out. Yeah, it happens, awesome. Well you think, guys,
• 1:00:34
  you want to bring up Jessmas. Well, it was great to seek
• 1:00:37
  Q. I love to SEEKQ. And I'm really happy that they read Calling
• 1:00:42
  season one and two and they just kind of scrapped those two. They made
• 1:00:45
  Rappy better this season. She wasn't as annoying. Yeah, you know,
• 1:00:52
  her being first officer with seven to nine, and I kind of don't like
• 1:00:58
  that in a way. I kind of wanted seven with her own crew with
• 1:01:01
  Jack mhm. I would have liked seeing that show. If they do Generations,
• 1:01:08
  I'd like to see Raffi die. That's all well that too. Well,
• 1:01:14
  if they keep pushing her out and making her a better character, I'm
• 1:01:15
  cool. Yeah, if that don't make her just a drunken stupid yeah,
• 1:01:20
  well there was that point. I believe it was that, and I even
• 1:01:22
  said this last season in season two when we started back up with season two,
• 1:01:28
  there was that point for a couple of episodes where Raffi acted like a
• 1:01:30
  badass. Yeah, she was competent, she was she was Yeah, she
• 1:01:35
  was confident, she was competent, she was on it, she was going,
• 1:01:37
  and I was like, Okay, she's gotten her ship straight. I
• 1:01:39
  kind of like this, But then she goes back to that quivering and kind
• 1:01:44
  of you know, I don't know whatever, you know, just as giggly
• 1:01:46
  as her hair is, you know. And it's like, oh my god,
• 1:01:50
  lady apistist, she needs to talk to Data because obviously Data can do
• 1:01:57
  none more than just talk constantly exactly. That'd be funny if Data became the
• 1:02:01
  therapist, that would be hilarious. That would be hilarious. If he's the
• 1:02:06
  therapist, that you could have everything, but he just drones on and won't
• 1:02:08
  shut up about his cat. And then and then the evaluations seven of nine
• 1:02:19
  is like do you really need a therapist? And everybody's like, wait,
• 1:02:21
  data is a therapist. Yes, he is a therapist. I'm fine,
• 1:02:23
  I'm good. Okay, good data evaluation that you're mentally fun. You don't
• 1:02:27
  need it. No, I don't need a therapist. I'm good. I
• 1:02:30
  really wish that the Enterprise that would have used the d at the end,
• 1:02:37
  then the Titan, because there's so much because hell, that ship. How
• 1:02:42
  many times does that ship save the universe or at least star Fleet? And
• 1:02:49
  I want to know how strong is that space doc against all those ship Yeah,
• 1:02:53
  that's the whole. Yeah. I was like, okay, are they
• 1:02:57
  stormtroopers now? And they just can't hit the right hit it? I mean
• 1:03:00
  yeah, Well I imagine something that big has massive shield generators. Yeah,
• 1:03:07
  I mean it's it's literally designed to do exactly what we saw it do.
• 1:03:13
  So yeah, but there's two things wrong with that. Okay, so this
• 1:03:17
  is just defensive should around not just one Well they did, they did,
• 1:03:22
  all right, and that's that's part of the problem. So granted, I'm
• 1:03:24
  sure it's got huge power reserves for a projection of a shield, but apparently
• 1:03:30
  it has such big power reserves that it has a shield projected around the entire
• 1:03:35
  Earth, because as soon as it shields went down and it really started taking
• 1:03:37
  damage and blew up. You saw the shields around Earth drop. There were
• 1:03:42
  shields around Earth and those drop two and it's like, okay, hold on
• 1:03:45
  a second, Uh, there's no there's no energy generations for shields on the
• 1:03:51
  freaking ground. Really yeah? Probably, yeah, protect that area? Why
• 1:04:00
  put shields around the Earth anyway when you could just you know, lie through
• 1:04:04
  it and then hit it at close range, like I don't yeah exactly,
• 1:04:09
  there's something or something. Yeah, I don't know that that part of it
• 1:04:14
  seemed really awkward to me. Um not, I mean, yeah, I
• 1:04:19
  don't know, it seemed awkward. It didn't seem quite right. I kind
• 1:04:23
  of wish they would have made a new like not recommissioned the Titan to the
• 1:04:28
  G the Enterprise G. Yeah, that was kind of disappointing to me because
• 1:04:32
  that it's bad luck to rename a ship. And when you rename a ship
• 1:04:40
  and then now it's the G. So you got the big D in the
• 1:04:43
  G spot and yes, and when they come together they turn it a voltron
• 1:04:55
  turn and come together, satisfying the magic the attached when a mommy ship and
• 1:05:03
  a daddy ship love each other, run about drops out awesome? Well,
• 1:05:15
  um anything else justiz, we do have quite a few people. So yeah,
• 1:05:18
  great season, loved it. Uh. The only problem is the new
• 1:05:24
  seasons. Can they meet this? Can they keep up with good writing,
• 1:05:30
  good directing, everything else? Because they can if that's what they want to
• 1:05:33
  do. Yeah, this is the big decisions. Yeah, because the decisions
• 1:05:39
  we have the ten course right now is this gonna be faced for Marvel and
• 1:05:43
  it's gonna go it out. I mean this was endgame in a lot of
• 1:05:46
  ways. Yeah, this is the end game, and right now you gotta
• 1:05:50
  course correct. Make sure you're not just saturating the market with bad TV shows
• 1:05:55
  because you want content not uh good writing. It shows right, because you
• 1:06:00
  do the Netflix model and you just dump a bunch of content out there that
• 1:06:04
  subpar. People kind of get exhausted. They don't care about start right,
• 1:06:12
  I think all I think all they need to do, um was Strange New
• 1:06:15
  Worlds. It's just continue what they started last last season. They don't need
• 1:06:20
  to do anything more than that. They just need to continue what they did
• 1:06:24
  with last season. That's it. That's all they gotta do. Yeah.
• 1:06:28
  Absolutely, and it'll be it'll be a phenomenal success. If that's all they
• 1:06:30
  do, they don't have to do anything different based off of what they did
• 1:06:34
  last season. Lower Dex is Lower Dex. It's fantastic, and we're gonna
• 1:06:38
  have a crossover with those two shows this season. What about the Discovery?
• 1:06:44
  What about it? It's dead? Well, I know it's dead, but
• 1:06:46
  like how many episodes? Like having mentioned if it's coming out this year,
• 1:06:50
  next year, it's next year they have Yeah, it's twenty three, twelve
• 1:06:56
  episodes, thirteen episodes, whatever it is, and that's the end of it.
• 1:06:59
  Yep ye. So yeah, okay, thanks for being so sorry.
• 1:07:05
  Yeah, thanks, JS, appreciate it many thanks, buddy. Yeah,
• 1:07:09
  now you've got Oh you had another audio clip you wanted to play real quickly,
• 1:07:13
  Timothy Morris, Okay, yeah, that's loading. Sorry, Hello boys,
• 1:07:20
  I hope my favorite threesome. Oh well, this is the second time
• 1:07:26
  I've recorded this because the first one went on for three minutes and I didn't
• 1:07:29
  want to take up too much time because I know you're going to be busy
• 1:07:32
  today. So my thoughts on Vicard finale on the whole, I enjoyed it
• 1:07:39
  on the whole, I enjoyed the season much better than anything we've had since
• 1:07:44
  two thousand and five. I would say I hope that they carry on in
• 1:07:47
  this vein rather than steaming out the turgid paths of ship we've had recently.
• 1:07:55
  And I think there has been a setup in this finale, especially the final
• 1:08:00
  scene after credits, which I almost missed because I needn't turn it off my
• 1:08:05
  highlight. Do you know? The bit that poked out of me, apart
• 1:08:10
  from seeing the Enterprise D going through the death cube was when they were when
• 1:08:16
  they've been the guys out at the end and you could see the Enterprise D
• 1:08:20
  come down and turn around. You can see him from underneath beautiful. I
• 1:08:25
  really like that. What a fan of Enterprise G. I just don't think
• 1:08:30
  it looked nice. I don't like those new sources sections where they have a
• 1:08:34
  little cut off at the back. I need to see either round discs or
• 1:08:39
  ovals like the Galaxy class, so you know it needs are just little little
• 1:08:45
  things really on the whole, I enjoyed the show. I'm sure I'm missing
• 1:08:48
  something, but I don't want to take up too much of your time moving
• 1:08:54
  forward with your show boys. I don't know what we're gonna do now.
• 1:08:57
  I've quite enjoyed doing these recordings and sending them in, and haven't you make
• 1:09:00
  fun of my accent? I will record something again, I expect if I
• 1:09:09
  know what you're talking about next time. But in the meantime I wouldn't to
• 1:09:14
  say thank you very much for tolerating my voice notes and knocking out a brilliant
• 1:09:19
  show. Um. Yeah, enjoyed Picard on the whole season three and looking
• 1:09:27
  forward to more Trek, especially with Q. That was the big thing that
• 1:09:31
  got me Q. Wow, take care fellas and remember as always, love
• 1:09:40
  you very much, no homose, Yes, thank you. They're fantastic.
• 1:09:48
  I kind of want to know what a pliance he's on his way to fix.
• 1:09:51
  Is it a washing machine as a refrigerator? What's going on there?
• 1:09:56
  Plumber? Plumbers? Yeah? Yeah, but I mean like just a garbage
• 1:10:00
  disposal or yeah, what is going on? Yeah? He should tell us
• 1:10:04
  next time. You should let us know, yeh, call call, call
• 1:10:08
  back in or actually record it and send it to my email and then we'll
• 1:10:12
  play it and tell us which garbage disposal you were installing, because nobody in
• 1:10:15
  Great Britain has one. There you go, There you go. All right,
• 1:10:19
  we got hipster Spock waiting on the line. There he is always flash
• 1:10:29
  it's on the internet, flashing his d There you go. I mean you
• 1:10:31
  can't, you can't hold your hand in front of it. Yeah yeah,
• 1:10:39
  there you go. There you go. So what do you think? Great
• 1:10:42
  end? Yeah, great ending it It hit everything in the right note and
• 1:10:48
  stuff. So that's great. And um, I love the queue uh cameo
• 1:10:54
  And did you notice that he got the last word? Yeah, the whole
• 1:11:00
  re Yeah yeah, that was pretty cool. Um even his outfit was close.
• 1:11:06
  So h yeah, mm hmm, that's that's right. Uh So one
• 1:11:15
  thing I made a legacy versus start startle the Academy poll on on some of
• 1:11:24
  the trek groups on Facebook. And as I said, and I said,
• 1:11:30
  as I said, of the people they wanted legacy, they didn't. They
• 1:11:36
  didn't care for Academy. And it's like that abstracted um abstracted boyfriend meme.
• 1:11:44
  Yeah where Yeah, And so that's great. But let's talk about legacy for
• 1:11:54
  for a second, okay, can we please? Sure? Sure? Okay,
• 1:11:59
  So with section thirty of I'm gonna get into section thirty one before I
• 1:12:06
  get into that. And I have a point before that, Okay, section
• 1:12:10
  thirty one is happening because yo she wanted to ask her. And and with
• 1:12:15
  that, it's really good at like going outside and getting investments because like they
• 1:12:23
  cannot make movies based off of a paramount subscription revenue. It's just not enough
• 1:12:30
  to make any like m movie or anything or any other content, so they
• 1:12:35
  need investments. So um, I think with why second thirty one is happening
• 1:12:43
  because Yo Wan or Oscar and you get to say that we have an Oscar
• 1:12:48
  Best Actress winner in our cast, and that's gonna draw a lot of like
• 1:12:55
  attention, and like it's gonna be like, okay, yeah, it's gonna
• 1:12:59
  work. Right. But then with with Picard three season three, I think
• 1:13:04
  it's good for getting subscribers to to bump up their metrics so they could get
• 1:13:12
  more like investments and all the other things right, and to even make a
• 1:13:16
  little bit of of like content and stuff. But the thing is we might
• 1:13:25
  not be getting legacy right away no matter how much demand there is, because
• 1:13:31
  there's three letters E, S and G okay and the and why that is
• 1:13:40
  because you guys know about ESG scores, right, I don't tell me that.
• 1:13:46
  Yeah, it's it's an environmental social governance um. And it's a big
• 1:13:55
  thing in bank in the big banks and stuff, and it's its basically,
• 1:14:00
  if your score is really high, it means that uh, you'll get really
• 1:14:05
  really good uh investment, um, you know, ratings, and then people
• 1:14:10
  will and people will be like, Okay, yeah, this is great.
• 1:14:15
  Um, let's invest in this company because and so, and that's why they
• 1:14:23
  pushed the diversity thing with Academy because it bumps up their es scores so they
• 1:14:30
  get more investments. But that's not so. Um, the fact that piccart
• 1:14:36
  did so well, it's not the fact that piccart did so well. It's
• 1:14:43
  not I don't think it's enough to get legacy made right away because they need
• 1:14:48
  money coming these and so uh okay, you got you got Amazon Prime money
• 1:14:57
  coming in, but that's not enough. And uh, the the amount of
• 1:15:00
  a subscription they they got from from Pick the Card and all that stuff and
• 1:15:06
  all that uh streaming, that's great, but they need investors to to make
• 1:15:14
  all this um, all all this content. So they need to bump up
• 1:15:19
  the ESG scores to get that. And then after they get all the investment,
• 1:15:25
  then we can start making a lot of the shows that the fans want.
• 1:15:29
  So yeah, it is like eating your vegetables first before you get your
• 1:15:33
  dessert. So Academy is our vegetable. Yeah, yeah, it doesn't quite
• 1:15:39
  work like that. So in I mean that's I mean from from a business
• 1:15:44
  point of view, I think, yeah, I get start. You're comparing
• 1:15:48
  it to to like if I want to start a bakery, and and and
• 1:15:53
  or if I want to start you know, different things. But with with
• 1:15:57
  film and television, you have to draw an audience. Doesn't matter what your
• 1:16:00
  ESG score is. If nobody's gonna watch it, right, that's the whole
• 1:16:03
  point of it. So as far as like outside investment, the way Paramount
• 1:16:11
  works and the way a lot of these studios work. If it's a streaming
• 1:16:14
  show, it's something they pay for in house because they're trying to maintain their
• 1:16:18
  membership base and grow it. Right, that's their metrics are more did people
• 1:16:24
  join the service to watch this show and they can see when people join up
• 1:16:29
  in relation to when the show debuts. That's really more of what they care
• 1:16:32
  about. And then what they care about is did people rewatch it? How
• 1:16:35
  many times did you rewatch the episodes? Because then that means you're more likely
• 1:16:40
  to stay to watch the show. That's those are their main things, right,
• 1:16:46
  You're both correct. Okay, so Daniel's correct on how the streaming service
• 1:16:49
  is looking at what they're going to produce, what they're gonna make, what
• 1:16:53
  their metrics are, all that kind of stuff, right. But the production
• 1:16:56
  studio, the one that has to lay out the cash at the beginning of
• 1:17:00
  it in order to make anything, does have investors on the back end.
• 1:17:02
  And Hipster's Box is making a very good point about this new EGS stuff or
• 1:17:06
  EGP stuff that's coming around. Well, a lot of these investment banks and
• 1:17:12
  corporations that do put investment into things to get a return on it, right,
• 1:17:15
  have to do it now based on those metrics, or at least they're
• 1:17:18
  being pushed to do it based on those metrics. So there's a lot bit.
• 1:17:21
  So what I was getting to though, is what you're talking about is
• 1:17:27
  stuff that has not yet been assigned to where it's going to go. Is
• 1:17:30
  it going to go on a streaming platform, Is it going to go to
• 1:17:35
  the movie theaters? Where is this content going to make its its money?
• 1:17:41
  Are we going to just jump it on YouTube and hope ad revenue pays for
• 1:17:44
  this thing. That's when you're pulling in investors to pay for something, to
• 1:17:48
  then figure out where we're going to make our money on the back end.
• 1:17:51
  That's when EG scores and all that come into play. But because this is
• 1:17:56
  a paramount production, paramount already has lated money for Discovery or or Picard or
• 1:18:03
  whatever that's set. It's just now allocating. Okay, do we want to
• 1:18:09
  take these funds and do a season of Legacy or do we want to do
• 1:18:13
  a season of Picard? Do we want to do a season of Strange New
• 1:18:15
  World. That's the question. It's not outside investors at that point. But
• 1:18:26
  um, I think that um, and I think it's it lines up with
• 1:18:31
  a lot of the things that's been going on. Why why a lot of
• 1:18:35
  corporations make these really like, um, what the hell kind of type of
• 1:18:43
  decision and like you know, like when Disney they went walk and all this
• 1:18:49
  stuff and then they And so that also has a lot to do with the
• 1:18:55
  ESG scores, because um, the thing is paramount. They're not as rich
• 1:19:00
  as they used to be anymore, so they need a lot of money and
• 1:19:03
  so they need investors and a lot of investors. So that's why. Um,
• 1:19:10
  okay, yes, you're right that they probably already have allocated a lot
• 1:19:15
  of sum of money for the Starfeed Academy thing, and okay that's earmarked probably,
• 1:19:21
  but then we need they need additional funds to get this legacy going.
• 1:19:28
  And so okay, you got a change dot org petition going twenty five signature
• 1:19:33
  twenty five thousand signatures already. That's wonderful. And Metallis has been pushing for
• 1:19:40
  it in all the podcasts that he's been visiting and so that's, um,
• 1:19:45
  you know, that's great, but and that will set up the demand,
• 1:19:49
  but they still need the money, so investors Is really can't do with it.
• 1:19:56
  Yeah, we'll see, yeah, do with it. Um, there's
• 1:19:58
  a whole lot of stuff that goes into it that I was see we don't
• 1:20:00
  hear about. We'll try to get as much information as we listen. We'll
• 1:20:02
  try to get as much information as we can as we move forward with it.
• 1:20:05
  So maybe we'll hear something more too by STLV, which will be fun.
• 1:20:10
  Um. I hope they announced it there. I mean they should have
• 1:20:13
  something. Honestly, it should have ended with Q doing his bit and then
• 1:20:15
  like like a Venger style Jack Frusher will return. That would be hilarious.
• 1:20:23
  Yeah, that would be great great. I mean I want legacy to happen
• 1:20:27
  because you know, I really like Jerry Ryan. She's like, yeah,
• 1:20:31
  I get everybody likes it for multiple reasons, and like I I would love
• 1:20:39
  to have uh to see where Jack goes and stuff, because okay, he's
• 1:20:45
  a let us snug a little kid and stuff, but then he's grown on
• 1:20:49
  us. I think thirty so um, I think yeah, um, I
• 1:20:57
  want to see interest kid between Jack and Wesley. I want I want to
• 1:21:00
  see interactions with interactions between those two. Yeah, Jack and Wesley? How
• 1:21:03
  that? How in the hell with that panel? But yeah, anyway,
• 1:21:06
  okay, hipster spot two more guys here. Yeah, sorry, no,
• 1:21:13
  you're fine. Man, appreciate it. That's my That's good. All right,
• 1:21:18
  sounds good man, buddy, Appreciate you, buddy. Thanks for coming.
• 1:21:21
  Let's get T Bear on next. We got T Bear. Let's bring
• 1:21:24
  them on bear. Oh look at that rock. Yeah, and this is
• 1:21:32
  embroidered, so its bears are fashion now look at that. Yeah, but
• 1:21:39
  what are you doing in the garage? That's my man cave? Okay,
• 1:21:43
  yea clearing out some cleaning up the rock and I found this oh ng chest
• 1:21:50
  up n it's my other it's my other D. There you go, that's
• 1:21:57
  the other one. So yeah, yeah, yeah, cool. It's got
• 1:22:00
  like the all the configures and it's basically got the look. I think,
• 1:22:06
  what was it the one with yar crap with the Enterprise B. So I
• 1:22:12
  guess the white versus the black pieces are the Enterprise B and the Ultra Timeline.
• 1:22:16
  Oh yeah. Anyways, it's cleaning up more and more stuff. But
• 1:22:23
  I think I've watched the episode like three times already since Yeah, I'm gonna
• 1:22:29
  go watch go back and watch the nice Yeah. Yeah, I'm gonna do
• 1:22:34
  a live stream where I open them. I'm gonna go back and watch the
• 1:22:39
  whole series again at this point. Yeah yeah, all the little yeah,
• 1:22:42
  all the little Easter eggs that were leading up, and you're just gonna be
• 1:22:45
  like, oh, damn it that that was just foreshadowing. Oh crap,
• 1:22:47
  They're they're hinting it there. So it's gonna be on the lookout for those.
• 1:22:53
  But everything I care, everything I read says they cut a lot.
• 1:22:57
  They cut a lot stuff, not necessarily stuff that they filmed, but stuff
• 1:23:00
  that they planned, like, um, you know, Davia's got a daughter
• 1:23:05
  and she's alive. And there wasn't even a mention of these two coming together
• 1:23:12
  and you know, meeting each other and a son. They're all talking about
• 1:23:16
  families. Yeah, not one mention of Alexander. Yeah, and and Jordy's
• 1:23:23
  wife. We still don't know who Sydney and um Alane's mom is, Like,
• 1:23:27
  that's still something everybody know. They've hinted that it's Leah Brahms. Yeah,
• 1:23:32
  as far back as all good things, we know her first name is
• 1:23:35
  Leah. Yeah, So I don't know, it'll be interesting. I'm I
• 1:23:44
  was surprised they caught me off guard with Q at the end. Oh yeah,
• 1:23:46
  I wasn't expecting much, if anything, maybe Wesley or something or just
• 1:23:51
  something random. But do you see Q? That Holy crap, he just
• 1:23:59
  basically in his what twenty thirty seconds he was there? He ere Race season
• 1:24:01
  two completely. Oh yeah. It feels like because he made a comment about
• 1:24:10
  um, didn't he say something about so linear? Yeah, this is linear
• 1:24:15
  thinking. So this is this is Q at a point in Q's life before
• 1:24:19
  he died. That I think he I think Your Race Season two, in
• 1:24:23
  a sense of it wasn't as good kind of thing where his presence in that
• 1:24:28
  short scene was so good, and the way he did it and the way
• 1:24:31
  it just sounded more like CUE than the last time you saw it. And
• 1:24:34
  I think that's kind of not only that, but I think, I think
• 1:24:39
  I think you're onto something there. Um. I think it does kill season
• 1:24:44
  two from the standpoint of in season two, we experienced a loss of Q.
• 1:24:49
  Q's dead. Well granted that's linear thinking or whatever however you want to
• 1:24:54
  play that in terms of the Star Trek universe. But here he is again,
• 1:24:58
  Yeah, which is something we already kind of knew, which is that
• 1:25:00
  he's never He's immortal technically, and all we got to see at that point
• 1:25:03
  was him at the end because he wanted to be there at his end,
• 1:25:08
  at Picard's end, right, suppose it end or whatever. I don't know.
• 1:25:13
  He was already not a real boy at that point, so whatever.
• 1:25:15
  Um so, but I think it just lessens that impact. Though if we'd
• 1:25:19
  never see Q again, that would make season two more impactful. But here
• 1:25:24
  we are, We're seeing Q already one season later, so it makes that
• 1:25:28
  loss just like any other loss, Like you know, uh, nobody can
• 1:25:33
  die now there's they can just go get into another sleeve and get to another
• 1:25:36
  body, like so you know that part. Yeah, it cheapens, it,
• 1:25:43
  it cheapens the it cheapens what happened in season two, same thing with
• 1:25:45
  Agnes, So they could have brought her back, and I'm okay they didn't,
• 1:25:53
  but yeah, you're right. I mean, I'm okay they didn't.
• 1:25:55
  But it just makes season too irrelevant in a weird way that there was really
• 1:26:00
  challenging to move forward with those characters, yeah, the way they were.
• 1:26:03
  But yeah, yeah, anyways, I don't think anyone's mentioned it, but
• 1:26:09
  didn't you watch the Strange New Worlds trailer and catch the fact that there's cling
• 1:26:14
  on, like real cling on, not disco clingons. Yes, yeah,
• 1:26:19
  and I know people are going to complain, you know, because of the
• 1:26:24
  virus that half of some of them looked human. M the prosthetics, and
• 1:26:29
  then maybe it's a coloring. Strange New Worlds has a very saturated color palette.
• 1:26:33
  It looked like it was more prosthetics than natural, So I don't know,
• 1:26:38
  it's maybe some clingons were a little bit more vain than some other ones,
• 1:26:42
  and it was more honorable to have a prosthetic m ridges So but I
• 1:26:47
  think it's just a style of it, but yeah, I was. I
• 1:26:50
  was happy. I like the idea of Bougie cling on to go get plastic
• 1:26:54
  surgery. They did. If you go back and watch that episode of Um
• 1:27:00
  Enterprise, the Klingon doctor does mention, you know, I could. He
• 1:27:06
  says something the effect of, you know, I could change specialties and go
• 1:27:10
  into reconstructive surgery market. There's a market for it, or something like that.
• 1:27:15
  Yeah, I do remember that. You know, if I was a
• 1:27:18
  Klingon who suddenly didn't look like a Klingon, yeah I might, you know,
• 1:27:25
  go have surgery to fix that. I want larger ridges. Yes,
• 1:27:31
  stop to size your ridges. It's what you do with them. That's right,
• 1:27:35
  that's right. You could eventually explain his head because he's just waiting.
• 1:27:43
  Oh you know what would have been a great, a great way to have
• 1:27:45
  Laris in this last episode is when he introduces everybody to Laris and Worf's like
• 1:27:51
  upset, and he looks you married. You're married to Romulin and he's like,
• 1:27:56
  yes, I did, And Worf can just say, well at least
• 1:27:58
  she's not from the North. There I go, yes, work would have
• 1:28:04
  been asleep, just yeah, yeah, on the bridge. Yes, that's
• 1:28:13
  awesome. Do you think we'll get legacy t beer? We better We're going
• 1:28:18
  to ride into the streets and that's the phase start. That's exactly what the
• 1:28:28
  ways it's totally set up. I mean, all those multiple endings and even
• 1:28:32
  in some of the interviews, um, and I do suffer with you,
• 1:28:36
  Daniel UM. And it's funny because, yeah, if you watched the interview,
• 1:28:43
  at some point, mat tell Us kind of looks directly at the camera
• 1:28:45
  when he's asked about that. I have a feeling it's done, but he
• 1:28:50
  can't say anything yet exactly. I think Seven had the same. Saint Jerry
• 1:28:56
  Ryan had the same comment. They're kind of skirting the issue. Yeah,
• 1:29:00
  they were very careful on their thoughts and their words. And I don't know
• 1:29:02
  if it's it's paramount or what, but yeah, if they don't do it,
• 1:29:08
  it's stupid. And if they announced it at STLV, that'd be freaking
• 1:29:13
  awesome. Okay, will they announce it or will they just randomly drop it
• 1:29:16
  in a press release some random day because they keep doing that shit. They'll
• 1:29:20
  do it at Comic Con if if they do it anywhere, Yeah, San
• 1:29:25
  Diego Comic the big one they announced recorded a STLV. What they should do
• 1:29:30
  is it was an official con back then. Yeah, that's true. Yeah,
• 1:29:35
  yeah, I'm hoping they announced it there. Um I should be there.
• 1:29:41
  Hopefully you guys are there too, so we'll see. Oh yeah yeah,
• 1:29:43
  we'll be we will be. We are ye. Yeah, it's it's
• 1:29:46
  in stone. We're gonna be there. Yeah, so yes, okay,
• 1:29:49
  yeah, I'm already already have my apparel. Yeah, you're gonna be hot.
• 1:29:56
  Yeah. Yeah. It's been eighty ninety here a few days, so
• 1:30:00
  like this is coming off soon. Now we all have to get dressed for
• 1:30:05
  the show. Right, we have to get correct paralleln for to del for
• 1:30:11
  the heat. Can I get a track cast tank top caspedos coming soon?
• 1:30:16
  Oh? Man, I thought it's the men of Track Caspedos. Oh there
• 1:30:21
  will be yeah yeah yeah yeah you go, there you go. And it
• 1:30:26
  really does need to say men of track cast on the side. Yes,
• 1:30:29
  that's right across the button shorts or whatever. It just covers the d oh
• 1:30:39
  no, oh man, put the logo on the front. Yeah you could,
• 1:30:46
  technically it'll it'll just have a combat it says to tap the combatge right
• 1:30:50
  right there. What do you think it would cost. What do you think
• 1:30:55
  it would cost to hire a professional photographer for an hour long photo shoot?
• 1:31:00
  What do you think one hundred bucks? Nifty bucks in Vegas? You mean?
• 1:31:04
  Or yeah? Oh maybe maybe like three or four hundred yeah like that.
• 1:31:12
  Should we do it? Go fund me for the for the Should we
• 1:31:15
  shoot the amount of check gest calendar on location? Here's the thing, now,
• 1:31:24
  I'm scared. I have the equipment needed to do this. I could
• 1:31:28
  do it. I just couldn't shoot myself. I could show you one of
• 1:31:30
  the guys what to do. But I have lights, I have listened camera,
• 1:31:35
  saw the actual amount of check cast calendar. You'd want to shoot yourself.
• 1:31:44
  We'll talk about it. Oh yeah, yeah, alright, some photography
• 1:31:49
  equipment too, But I'm not going to volunteer it. He's like, I
• 1:31:54
  don't think I can unsee that ever in my life. No, thank you.
• 1:31:58
  Hey, right, it'll have to stay there. If whatever happens there,
• 1:32:00
  it's gonna have to stay there. Right, That's true, that's true.
• 1:32:01
  True visually take you know, photographs with your eyes. Strawberry is losing
• 1:32:06
  his mind. I can see him in the preview. I see thee in
• 1:32:12
  the waiting room, he's like turning his red as his shirt. It's great,
• 1:32:18
  all right, guys, I'll let you get moving. You appreciate it
• 1:32:23
  all. Take care buddy, all right, let's bring him one. Well
• 1:32:26
  he's go breathing. Yeah. Dandie's like, yeah, I've got the equipment
• 1:32:31
  for this shoot. B Are you talking about camera equipment? Oh? By,
• 1:32:39
  bad story, that's a different story. Oh, he's got the equipment
• 1:32:45
  for a threesome and the cameras to boot. It's how he makes his money
• 1:32:47
  on the side. But the only famous guys come on. And the other
• 1:32:50
  thing I couldn't stop thinking about was Star Trek g Spot yea god um.
• 1:32:58
  So we have this private chat, the three of us, so we're always
• 1:33:00
  just shooting ideas back and forth. I shot an idea for a T shirt
• 1:33:04
  last night and it's uh yeah, to do it treck cast warps second favorite
• 1:33:11
  threesome. What do you think? Yeah, yeah, yeah, great,
• 1:33:14
  great. I don't know if I'll buy it, but I think it's a
• 1:33:16
  good idea. I did by I did buy this shirt. No, you
• 1:33:20
  bought that shirt and my wife's got the other shirt that we bought. Yes,
• 1:33:24
  absolutely, thank you, Dan so um welcome a couple of things I
• 1:33:28
  wanted to say. Uh number one, Um, I don't think it's said
• 1:33:31
  enough, but uh man, what a gem gentry is Uh that guy?
• 1:33:35
  You gotta gotta get him on the on the show. He's awesome. Uh
• 1:33:40
  he's uh definitely, Uh a lot more articulate than I am. So I
• 1:33:45
  think he did a great job when he guests hosted the last time. But
• 1:33:48
  uh, you know another thing we haven't talked about, uh two, and
• 1:33:53
  we were talking about. You guys were talking about the things that they either
• 1:33:56
  shot or didn't shoot but planned to shoot and these would be great uh short
• 1:34:01
  tracks? Bring those back? Yeah, yeah, but you know, as
• 1:34:06
  much shit as we gave them for doing those, and in some cases,
• 1:34:10
  um, there were some really there were some really good ones in there.
• 1:34:12
  There's some gyms in there. Yeah. Absolutely. We game a lot of
• 1:34:15
  crap too, because it was like you know, short trecks of you know,
• 1:34:17
  Star Trek Discovery, which not all of us were excited about. But
• 1:34:20
  I bet if we had short you know, Picard short tracks, we'd be
• 1:34:25
  a lot more excited about it the worlds or anything lower decks, I mean
• 1:34:29
  exactly in the chair. Yeah, that was great, that was great.
• 1:34:36
  Yeah, we'll watch it. We'll watch it absolutely, Yeah, Jerry Ryan
• 1:34:41
  and Michael Doran. Absolutely anything they're in, we'll watch it. But yeah,
• 1:34:45
  Um, as far as the series finale, the one thing that I
• 1:34:47
  thought about the most was back um in ninety three and ninety four when the
• 1:34:55
  series finale of TNJ came on. One of the things that was different about
• 1:34:59
  it then for me was, you know, I was just a teenager watching
• 1:35:02
  it by myself in my bedroom. I didn't have anybody to share it with.
• 1:35:05
  You know, I was an only child, no brothers and sisters.
• 1:35:08
  My parents weren't into it or anything. This time, um, my wife
• 1:35:12
  is really into it and she watches it with me. And obviously we didn't
• 1:35:15
  have and by we, I mean every everybody that's watching this and listening to
• 1:35:19
  this. We didn't have trek Cast. We didn't have something to you know,
• 1:35:23
  listen to and bounce ideas off of and stuff like that. And the
• 1:35:25
  community has been super awesome to you know, help us be a part of
• 1:35:30
  that. So I just wanted to thank you guys for for doing that,
• 1:35:32
  because that's something we've never had before. So yeah, you know, I
• 1:35:36
  want to do this is enjoyable for us because we had, Yeah, exactly
• 1:35:42
  exactly. So it's been great. I wish I could make it to Star
• 1:35:45
  Trek Las Vegas, but my wife reminded me that that weekend is our anniversary
• 1:35:48
  weekend, so we have a we have a little motorcycle trip planned that weekend,
• 1:35:54
  so I can't make it. Wish I could. So what's that,
• 1:35:59
  Oh you're going to Sturge. Yeah, yeah, just just a real short
• 1:36:01
  trip. But yeah, anniversary weekend sort of. Uh, that's awesome.
• 1:36:05
  That's cool man. Right, there'll be other meetups, Oh, absolutely,
• 1:36:10
  absolutely, Yeah, if they ever come to Detroit, to Chicago or you
• 1:36:14
  know, any any Indianapolis or something as like that, that'd be great.
• 1:36:17
  H So yeah, yeah, so I'm sure we'll find other trips. But
• 1:36:23
  yeah, yeah, oh yeah anything all right, guys. Well that's all
• 1:36:26
  I had to say. So you guys have a good one. And I
• 1:36:29
  absolutely loved the finale, especially Data flying the Enterprise. There's been so many
• 1:36:35
  things, so many musical things overlaid that on, like TikTok and stuff you
• 1:36:40
  know with it, like Sabotage and some other different music. It's been I
• 1:36:44
  watch all of them. They're absolutely wonderful. I haven't seen to check them
• 1:36:46
  out. There's a few where they see music makes the difference and it's Hanger
• 1:36:51
  twelve opening and you see the d for the first time and they keep changing
• 1:36:55
  out the song on it. It's great. Oh yeah, like the song
• 1:36:58
  I Need a Hero. Yeah, like I said, sabotaged and they keep
• 1:37:01
  overlay just to look at data states that he's doing a Yeah, you know
• 1:37:04
  he's operating the control with you know, the hands and everything. So that's
• 1:37:09
  great to go look for him. Yeah, all right, thanks man,
• 1:37:15
  all right, take care everybody. Yeah, well cool, all right,
• 1:37:20
  that's it. We're wrapping it up. Yeah, so I got a big
• 1:37:24
  surprise. I was telling you forgot, forgot. Yeah. Yeah. So
• 1:37:28
  we always have show under or we're supposed to, right and then and then
• 1:37:32
  we didn't, and now I decided to make another one. So since this
• 1:37:36
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• 1:37:41
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• 1:37:45
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• 1:38:18
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• 1:38:21
  next week, right right, that's right, We're not here next We're not
• 1:38:25
  here next week. We'll be back in two weeks with another show. So
• 1:38:29
  figure out what it's going to be about. I have like six different ideas
• 1:38:33
  we can pick you. Oh no, no, no, I've been working
• 1:38:34
  on it. We're gonna do a starship draft I've been wanting doing for years.
• 1:38:39
  It's time, it's time, it's time. Okay, So I'm already
• 1:38:42
  talking to other Star Trek podcasts. We're gonna have guests and it's gonna be
• 1:38:45
  fun. All right, cool, that's what we're doing. Yep, that
• 1:38:53
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  all good, right, Daniels, got it all right? All guys,
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  Bye see you guys. Take care. M h