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Bonus Episode: Tribal Tattoos, The Biggest Beefs, and Disgo Massueses · DISGRACELAND

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  Speaker 1: Hey, discos, need a little more Disgraceland in your life,
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  Speaker 1: just to touch to get you through.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, me too.
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  Speaker 1: This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome
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  Speaker 1: to Disgraceland, the after Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode,
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  Speaker 1: a little thing we like to call the after party.
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  Speaker 1: This is the show after the show, the party after
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  Speaker 1: the party, the bridge to get you from one full
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  Speaker 1: episode of Disgraceland to the other, the backyard to dig
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  Speaker 1: into the dirt. On this episode, we are talking about
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  Speaker 1: the Notorious Big Rest in peace, Robbie Robertson and that
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  Speaker 1: tattoo you got years ago that is a dis g
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  Speaker 1: r acee disgrace, and of course your voicemails, text, dms
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  Speaker 1: and more and as always, a whole.
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  Speaker 2: Lot of Rosie.
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  Speaker 1: All right, discues, let's get into it, okay, and this
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  Speaker 1: week's re release of Part one of the Notorious Big Story. Listen,
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  Speaker 1: we're doing this, you know, re release here of the
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  Speaker 1: parts one and part two of Big because we're coming
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  Speaker 1: up where we're at, actually, I should say, the fiftieth
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  Speaker 1: anniversary of hip hop and we are also in a
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  Speaker 1: little bit of a break here before we get into
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  Speaker 1: the next season of Disgraceland and that entire season will
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  Speaker 1: be hip hop focused. More on that later. It's not
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  Speaker 1: what you think. I promise you. If you're on our
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  Speaker 1: email list, by the way, you already know what that is.
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  Speaker 1: So if you want to be in on the in
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  Speaker 1: stuff before it gets announced elsewhere, you can sign up
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  Speaker 1: for our emails. That's easy to do on our website
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  Speaker 1: www dot disgrace leympod dot com. But back to this
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  Speaker 1: notorious big story. In these episodes, we talk about the
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  Speaker 1: guy who entered adulthood as a crack dealer and then
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  Speaker 1: left this world as one of the most famous hip
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  Speaker 1: hop artists of all time, the notorious Biggie Smalls. He
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  Speaker 1: there's no way around it, you got to say it.
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  Speaker 1: He altered the course of hip hop with his debut album,
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  Speaker 1: Ready to Die.
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  Speaker 2: It's an album that.
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  Speaker 1: Was also a soundtrack of sorts for his highly publicized
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  Speaker 1: super dangerous and unnecessary if you asked me, beef between
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  Speaker 1: him and his one time friend fellow rapper Tupac Procure.
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  Speaker 1: But that whole saga, it almost never happened. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: going to get into it too much here. Check out
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  Speaker 1: the episode for more details, but it of course got
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  Speaker 1: me thinking, what are some of the biggest musical beefs
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  Speaker 1: of all time? Biggie and Tupac, John Lennon and Paul McCartney,
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  Speaker 1: Roger Waters and David Gilmour, Liam and Noel Gallagher. There's
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  Speaker 1: got to be some old country singer songwriter beef, country
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  Speaker 1: Nashville musician beef going way back that I'm not aware of.
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  Speaker 2: Well, who do you got? All right? We've got episodes
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  Speaker 2: on all these guys.
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  Speaker 1: We've got two episodes on Big, two episodes on Pac,
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  Speaker 1: one episode on Big Am poc cover, a bunch of
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  Speaker 1: Beatles angles and eight episodes I believe, But we don't
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  Speaker 1: spend a lot of time on the beef between John
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  Speaker 1: and Paul. Our Pink Floyd episode is basically a Sid
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  Speaker 1: Barrett episode. Doesn't really touch on David Gilmore and John Waters.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Roger Waters doesn't touch on John Waters at all,
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  Speaker 1: John Waters, that'd be a good bad Lands episode, But
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  Speaker 1: I digress. Okay, So you know in our Oasis episode
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  Speaker 1: kind of predates the whole fraternal relationship dysfunction that we
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  Speaker 1: now have between the brothers Gallagher. So stupid question of
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  Speaker 1: the week, what's the biggest, baddest craziest musical beef in
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  Speaker 1: music history. Tough to argue with Biggie and Tupac, but
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  Speaker 1: put them aside. Is it John and Paul?
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  Speaker 2: Is it Liam?
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  Speaker 1: And Knowl?
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  Speaker 2: Is it Roger and David? Who is it? Who do
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  Speaker 2: you got? Call me?
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  Speaker 1: Let me know six one seven nine oh six six
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  Speaker 1: six three eight, or you can do so you can
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  Speaker 1: let me know by text as well at that number
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  Speaker 1: six one seven nine oh six six six three eight.
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  Speaker 1: Speaking of which, let's get into your voicemails right here,
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  Speaker 1: right now from last week j.
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  Speaker 3: If Juba and at a six one fourth. And I
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  Speaker 3: just wondered, where did you learn to write so well?
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  Speaker 3: Did you go to college or is this something that
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  Speaker 3: you just, you know, specialized, been in school as a
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  Speaker 3: writer myself, it just kind of comes naturally. But you're
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  Speaker 3: an amazing storyteller and an amazing writer. And I'm going
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  Speaker 3: to tell you I wish your episodes were longer than
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  Speaker 3: like a half an hour because the stories are en thrawling.
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  Speaker 3: So keep it up. Do you drinking? I have to
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  Speaker 3: talk for a long long time later.
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  Speaker 1: All right, thank you six to one four. To answer
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  Speaker 1: your question, I taught myself to write. I'm still teaching
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  Speaker 1: myself to write.
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  Speaker 2: Writing.
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  Speaker 1: I believe it's an everyday learning thing. Okay, it's like singing.
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  Speaker 1: The more you use the muscle, the stronger it gets.
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  Speaker 1: And for me, I taught myself how to write, for sure,
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  Speaker 1: especially how to write podcasts. But I'm constantly teaching myself
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  Speaker 1: how to write in different ways and different mediums, to
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  Speaker 1: tell stories in different ways, reading screenplays, I'm always doing that.
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  Speaker 1: I'm always writing other scripts for other projects. There, of course,
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  Speaker 1: was the book that I wrote, the anthology, the Disgraceline book.
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  Speaker 1: It's you know, that's helped me. It's all helped me
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  Speaker 1: to learn just doing it. The act of doing it
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  Speaker 1: is super helpful, like anything else. I also learned from
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  Speaker 1: other writers. I researched a lot of stuff. I read
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  Speaker 1: books and essays that other writers have written on writing,
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  Speaker 1: interviews they've given on the craft. Stephen King's book was
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  Speaker 1: really helpful. David Mammon has published a bunch on write.
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  Speaker 2: I've I've read a.
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  Speaker 1: Bunch of interviews with Clinton Tarantino and a lot of
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  Speaker 1: his criticism on on other films. That's helped. Robert Towns
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  Speaker 1: written some books. So there's a lot out there, and
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  Speaker 1: it's a cont for me. It's a constant education. I
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  Speaker 1: didn't I didn't study writing in any way in school
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  Speaker 1: beyond what they just teach you in the basics.
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  Speaker 2: I went to college.
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  Speaker 1: To answer your question, I went to college, but I
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  Speaker 1: majored in music industry and uh in history.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: But that that that was That was that was enough.
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  Speaker 1: I guess learning how to write term papers in a
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  Speaker 1: lot of ways taught me how to write scripts. Also
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  Speaker 1: taught me how to write songs, and writing songs taught
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  Speaker 1: me how to tell stories. So it kind of worked
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  Speaker 1: out like that. If that makes any sense. Roundabout answer
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  Speaker 1: to a very easy question of yours, I hope that helped.
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  Speaker 1: Let's uh, let's check in with the four to one.
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  Speaker 4: Oh ao beer Jake.
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  Speaker 5: This is Neil from the four one oh aka four
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  Speaker 5: one zero Needles.
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  Speaker 4: You can find me on the igs.
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  Speaker 3: What the fuck look, bro? Armored?
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  Speaker 4: We got to talk about Armored?
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  Speaker 2: Dude?
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  Speaker 3: That shit. Man.
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  Speaker 4: I don't usually re listen to podcasts, but I fucking
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  Speaker 4: have listened to each episode of Armored about six times.
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  Speaker 4: I annoy the fuck out of people in my recommendations
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  Speaker 4: for it, and I need another goddamn season.
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  Speaker 3: Bro.
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  Speaker 2: It's been like two years.
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  Speaker 4: That shit is fucking amazing. Not the Disgracedland isn't.
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  Speaker 3: But dude, Armored, Oh my god, man, yo, keep doing
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  Speaker 3: that shit.
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  Speaker 4: Give me another season?
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  Speaker 3: Just please, please, bro.
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  Speaker 4: I know there's not too many, like you know, arm
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  Speaker 4: robbery stories out there, or you can unsolve shit, but.
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  Speaker 3: God damn it, wait a thousand days of Armored.
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  Speaker 4: I'll be in touch with Audio Chuck if they approve heard.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, Nils, please contact Audio Chuck. Hit him up, hit
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  Speaker 1: up Ashley Flowers, hit her up on Instagram, let him
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  Speaker 1: know you're looking for another season Armored. I'm not saying
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  Speaker 1: I do it. I'm pretty busy, but I entertain it
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  Speaker 1: if it was interesting enough. And for those of you
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  Speaker 1: who don't know what Neil here is talking about, Armored
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  Speaker 1: is a limited series I did in collaboration with crime
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  Speaker 1: junkies Ashley Flowers and Audio Chuck, her company Audio Chuck
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  Speaker 1: on armored truck robberies. I'm not sure why they asked
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  Speaker 1: me to do it. Maybe because I'm from Boston and
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  Speaker 1: Boston's known for its armored truck robberies.
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  Speaker 4: Neil.
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  Speaker 1: If you need to fix though, I might recommend the
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  Speaker 1: following Armored heist movies to watch, which you've probably seen
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  Speaker 1: but are worth a rewatch. The Friends of Eddie Coyle.
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  Speaker 1: One of my favorite Boston crime movies of all time,
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  Speaker 1: The Town ben Affleck John Ham, heavily inspired by the
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  Speaker 1: Friends of Eddie Coyle and of course, probably the greatest
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  Speaker 1: heist movie of all time in my opinion anyways, heat
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  Speaker 1: so check those out to satiate your heist jones that
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  Speaker 1: you get going on in lieu of any new Armored episodes,
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  Speaker 1: and if you want to hear Armored, that podcast is
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  Speaker 1: available everywhere. All right, back to this podcast, though, let's
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  Speaker 1: check in with the three one four Hi date.
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  Speaker 5: This is Jessica from the three one four Saint Louis, Missouri.
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  Speaker 5: You You're podcast was actually the first podcast I ever
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  Speaker 5: listened to. I love it. I love it still. I
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  Speaker 5: dove right in with the big blurred episode, so quite
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  Speaker 5: to start. But I love the way you tell the stories.
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  Speaker 5: Your voice is great too, but just the creative way
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  Speaker 5: that you and your team come together to write the stories.
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  Speaker 3: So it's not just giving us the facts but actually, you.
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  Speaker 5: Know, telling a narrative, which is lovely. So I really
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  Speaker 5: appreciate that.
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  Speaker 4: Keep on keeping on.
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  Speaker 5: I love the show all right, good care.
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  Speaker 1: Hell, yes, Jessica, happy to hear Disgraceland turn you on
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  Speaker 1: a podcast. Thank you for the props. I appreciate you
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  Speaker 1: mentioning the team that works on the show. We've got
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  Speaker 1: to see you, guys, know, we've got to You know,
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  Speaker 1: you only hear my voice on these episodes, on the
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  Speaker 1: scripted episodes, the full the real episodes of Disgraceland.
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  Speaker 2: But we've got anywhere from five.
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  Speaker 1: To ten people working on any one episode of Disgraceland
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  Speaker 1: at a time, and believe me, we need them all
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  Speaker 1: to make these puppies hit the way that I want
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  Speaker 1: them to hit. So I'm gonna use your praise, Jessica,
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  Speaker 1: as an opportunity to praise as a team here at
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  Speaker 1: Double Elvis for all the smart, hard and creative hustle
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  Speaker 1: that they're putting into making me sound good every week.
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  Speaker 1: So thanks to Double Elvis. And so you know, Jessica,
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  Speaker 1: you might not know, but Double Elvis produces a lot
• 10:30
  Speaker 1: of shows that I'm not a part of that my
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  Speaker 1: voice is not a part of. I executive produced them.
• 10:35
  Speaker 1: But you might want to check out about a Girl.
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  Speaker 1: We've got a new show called Sound of Our Town
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  Speaker 1: hosted by Will daily, which is kind of like a
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  Speaker 1: musical travelogue into different cities throughout America. You know where
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  Speaker 1: to see the best bands, what music venue is, what
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  Speaker 1: music history makes up those towns. Sound of our town.
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  Speaker 1: Check that out. That's a new one that's in season
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  Speaker 1: right now. And about a Girl. That's another one that
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  Speaker 1: you can check out, and some others too. Go to
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  Speaker 1: double up dot FM and that's where you'll get all
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  Speaker 1: the info. All right, I don't normally do this, but
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  Speaker 1: it's worth it. After Jessica called in with that voicemail above,
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  Speaker 1: she called right back with another. It's super short and
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  Speaker 1: it's super interesting, to say the least, So I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to play that.
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  Speaker 2: One real quick.
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  Speaker 5: That's a lie again.
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  Speaker 3: I forgot to.
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  Speaker 5: Mention that I listen to your podcast while I'm at work,
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  Speaker 5: which is giving massages to people. I'm also an aesthetician,
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  Speaker 5: but obviously I can't listen when I'm doing facials. But yeah,
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  Speaker 5: I listen kind of binge a bunch of my podcasts
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  Speaker 5: while I'm rubbing people's bodies.
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  Speaker 2: Have a great day, damn, Jessica. Amazing to hear a
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  Speaker 2: little weird.
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  Speaker 1: I'll be thinking about this the next time I get
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  Speaker 1: a massage. I didn't know the massage therapist listened to
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  Speaker 1: anything while they gave massages. I certainly didn't realize that
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  Speaker 1: one I was when I'm getting a massage, I'm not thinking.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not thinking about anything, really, I'm just
• 12:04
  Speaker 1: kind of zend out. So I guess it makes sense
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  Speaker 1: that a massage therapists could have their earbudds in and
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  Speaker 1: be listening to something. The thought of you listening to Disgraceland, though,
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  Speaker 1: while massaging people is kind of hysterical. So thank you, Jessica.
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  Speaker 1: All right, let's move on. If you've been listening to
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  Speaker 1: these bonus episodes over the last few months, then you
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  Speaker 1: know that I haven't been able to shut up about Fidlar. Fidlar.
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  Speaker 1: I still have a hard time saying that instead of Fiddler.
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  Speaker 1: So here's a voicemail relative to that from the eighth four.
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  Speaker 4: Thanks you, Hey, Jake. My name is Ben and I
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  Speaker 4: grew up in Los Angeles and I went to Hamilton
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  Speaker 4: High School from two thousand and four to two thousand
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  Speaker 4: and eight. In my graduating class was the band's the
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  Speaker 4: lead guitarist of fid Lar and his brother younger brother
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  Speaker 4: just a couple of years behind us, and I got
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  Speaker 4: to watch this band or these guys kind of find
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  Speaker 4: their way. And one day, I think it was in
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  Speaker 4: the tenth grade, I was in piano class.
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  Speaker 3: So our high.
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  Speaker 4: School was Hamilton High School was had a music academy
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  Speaker 4: Magnet that was really amazing program. And in my second
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  Speaker 4: level piano class sat next to me a transfer student
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  Speaker 4: by the name of Elvis Keene and I had did
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  Speaker 4: know Elvis, and he is the lead singer or the
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  Speaker 4: lead guitarist for Fiddler, and I got to know Elvis
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  Speaker 4: and his brother pretty well over the years. Elvis's dad
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  Speaker 4: was also in a punk rock band, so that's where
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  Speaker 4: his infest business schoolances came from. But it was really
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  Speaker 4: wild to see after he graduated high school and kind of,
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  Speaker 4: you know, loosely keeping in touch of these people. All understand,
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  Speaker 4: Fidlar shows up and I knew that Elvis was kind
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  Speaker 4: of associated with it, but I didn't know how big
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  Speaker 4: they were getting. I would travel. When I would be traveling,
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  Speaker 4: I would see with fid Lar's shirts, and then eventually,
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  Speaker 4: when I moved to Richmond, Virginia in two and nineteen,
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  Speaker 4: the procession of Fiddler apparel and it just kept growing.
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  Speaker 4: I kept seeing it everywhere and everywhere, So yeah, Fiddlar
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  Speaker 4: awesome Dan, great, great guys. Never got to see any
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  Speaker 4: of their shows live, unfortunately, but on YouTube.
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  Speaker 2: Amazing stuff.
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  Speaker 3: Dan.
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  Speaker 1: I'm totally jealous that you get to be in on
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  Speaker 1: the early days of this band, Fiddler. Thanks for the
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  Speaker 1: backstory on Elvis. I knew that one of their dads
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  Speaker 1: was an old punk dude a while back. I saw
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  Speaker 1: that video that they did Wake Bake Skate for with
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  Speaker 1: the dude from Parks and Rec blanking on his name,
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  Speaker 1: and I think I was like, how'd they get that dude?
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  Speaker 1: And then the answer, I think had something to do
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  Speaker 1: with one of their dads being in TSOL. So I
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  Speaker 1: kind of knew that, but I love the story. I
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  Speaker 1: appreciate it. Nonetheless, if you run into those dudes, let
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  Speaker 1: him know that I won't shut up about him.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks Dan.
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  Speaker 1: Stay in touch all right, guys. Great job on the voicemails.
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  Speaker 1: Keep them coming six one seven nine oh six six
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  Speaker 1: six three eight. Jessica's got me thinking, I want to
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  Speaker 1: know what you guys do for work when you listen
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  Speaker 1: to Disgraceland. For all you quiet quitters out there, I
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  Speaker 1: hate that term, but anyways, let me know what job
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  Speaker 1: you're not doing while listening to this show. Six one
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  Speaker 1: seven nine oh six six six three eight. I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: take a quick break. I'll be back in just a
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  Speaker 1: minute with your text and your DMS.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, we are back.
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  Speaker 1: So let's dive into some d ms on x formerly
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  Speaker 1: known as Twitter, where we can be reached at Disgrace
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  Speaker 1: Lamp Pod. We still have the same branding at Disgrace
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  Speaker 1: Lamp Pod. Jay Smith three sixty hit me up saying
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  Speaker 1: that we should check out that Woman's Got Me Drinking
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  Speaker 1: a song by Shane McGown featuring Johnny Depp on guitar.
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  Speaker 1: Why because we just featured Johnny Depp over in our
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  Speaker 1: bad Land series. And Jay goes on to talk about
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  Speaker 1: Johnny playing with Oasis, which I didn't know that, but
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  Speaker 1: I did know that he played on one of those
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  Speaker 1: Ryan Adams records that are like a lot, the one
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  Speaker 1: that Mike Viola produced. Think it's self titled just Ryan Adams,
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  Speaker 1: And I think I think that's someone Johnny Depp is on.
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  Speaker 1: I think I think Johnny Depp can play man. He
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  Speaker 1: can act, but he can play guitar as well and
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  Speaker 1: drink wine. Apparently, and pass out in hotel rooms before
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  Speaker 1: Hollywood Vampires kicks rock and Roll Baby Adam Maglioni shouts
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  Speaker 1: out our Rick James episode in Rick's relationship with the band.
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  Speaker 1: This on Twitter as well, he talks about the band
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  Speaker 1: up in Canada, and this is in reference to Robbie
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  Speaker 1: Robertson's recent passing, which I get to say hurt, but
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  Speaker 1: I address this in our previous mini episode and on Instagram.
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  Speaker 1: You want to hear my thoughts on Robbie's passing, you
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  Speaker 1: can get them there. Matt White on Twitter as well,
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  Speaker 1: Matt wants a Kiss episode. Do you guys want a
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  Speaker 1: Kiss episode? I'm not sure that I do, nor am
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  Speaker 1: I sure what the crime is to Motor the story
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  Speaker 1: on Kiss? Let me know what you guys know on Kiss?
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  Speaker 1: Maybe there's something there is there something there involving Detroit.
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  Speaker 1: Now that I just said motor it's Motor City. It's
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  Speaker 1: in my head. There's got to be something with Kiss.
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  Speaker 1: Let me know, Kiss Heads Kiss, Army, get at me
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  Speaker 1: six one seven nine oh six six six three eight.
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  Speaker 1: Where's the angle on the Kiss story? The Kiss episode
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  Speaker 1: that you guys want me to do? Let me know,
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  Speaker 1: all right, let's Let's get into some Facebook messages here
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  Speaker 1: as well. David Moon on Facebook rights, Hey, Jake moon
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  Speaker 1: Man from down Under here. I'm a week or so behind,
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: but feel I have to wait in on the subject
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  Speaker 1: of greatest pop duet performances. It's possible I could be
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: coming from a patriotic standpoint here and shouting out Australia,
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: but I honestly think Where the Wild Roses Grow by
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: Nick Cave and Kylie Minogue has to be in the conversation.
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  Speaker 1: It's a sinister, sexy, melancholic masterpiece of pop. I can't
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  Speaker 1: really think of a more surprising collaboration that breathed life
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  Speaker 1: into two seemingly disperate careers and the result is quite amazing. Anyways,
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: big fan, love the skill and passion you and the
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: team obviously have. Raka Rola, David, great message. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know this song, but I love Nick Cave and I
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: love Kylie Minogue, so I should. And I'm gonna go
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  Speaker 1: check this out and I will report back to you
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  Speaker 1: next week on my thoughts, or maybe I'll just hit
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: you up in the Facebook app. Either way, thanks for
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: reaching out. I appreciate it. Also on Facebook, Aaron Nicole writes, Hey, Jake,
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: my name is Aaron from The four one nine. Just
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: discovered your podcast about a month ago.
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  Speaker 2: Love it.
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  Speaker 1: Listen to it all day at work.
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: Aeron, What do you do at work? Let me know.
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: Eron goes on to say, listening to Graham Parsons the
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  Speaker 1: extra episode for an easy going watch on Netflix. F
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  Speaker 1: is for Family, It's hilarious. I don't know what that is, Aaron.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: I don't know what F is for Family is, but
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: I will look into that. All right, Let's do another
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  Speaker 1: one here, This one from Curtis Gallipo on Facebook, who
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: writes in to introduce himself, says, Curtis from Connecticut. What
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: makes me me is a variety in order, my eleven
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  Speaker 1: year old daughter, Sophia, my family, my various Fender guitars, ukulele.
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  Speaker 1: I just bought a steel guitar. I'm kind of scared
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: to play because I have no idea what the fuck
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: I'm doing. Mountain biking. I ride a Cannondale and then
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: unfortunately work. Thank you for the Fire podcast on both channels.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: Some make me laugh, others teach me shit I did
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  Speaker 1: not know. Uh listen, Curtis, awesome, awesome to hear from you. Dude,
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: appreciate it. I love hearing what makes you guys? You guys,
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  Speaker 1: and I love getting to know you a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: Six one seven nine oh six six six three eight.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: You can leave a voicemail, you can send me a text,
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  Speaker 1: or you can hit me up on Facebook like Curtis here,
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: or on Twitter or Instagram or anywhere and introduce yourselves.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: Guys.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: All right, let's check in with Let's do another Facebook
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: one here, this one from Caleb Clark, who writes in Dude,
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: the Ariana Grande episode was intense.
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  Speaker 2: Loved it.
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  Speaker 1: You were really skilled at capturing the imagination with your
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  Speaker 1: sound effects and music.
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  Speaker 2: Love it.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: Will you please do an episode of my favorite band,
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: The Smashing Pumpkins. They have an intense backstory. I even
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: have a Pumpkins tattoo on my ass. Poor decision when
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: I was eighteen still stands though. Thank you so much
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: for your hard work. Love to listen. Thanks Caleb. Yeah, man,
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: I'd be down to do a Smashing Pumpkins episode again.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: Back to the crime issue, what is it? They don't
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: strike me as having any true crime in their backstory,
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: but yeah, I can relate to the shitty tattoo thing
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: I got one on my own. It's not a Smashing
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: Pumpkins tattoo, god damn it. But it is a tribal
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: ankle tattoo. And you know, it's good work. The tattoo's
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: a good tattoo. It's just a fucking ankle tattoo, which
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  Speaker 1: seemed like a good idea back when I was eighteen
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  Speaker 1: and I could not wait to get a tattoo. But
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  Speaker 1: in retrospect, the placement and you know, it's funny. We
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: were watching my wife and I when Portlandia came out.
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  Speaker 1: We were watching I think it was the first episode. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's the first episode where they have that big set
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  Speaker 1: piece musical thing where they're talking about there's a song
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: the Dream of the Nineties, and my wife had a
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: joke that the Dream of the nineties was alive on
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  Speaker 1: my ankle in the form of a travel tattoo.
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  Speaker 2: And we still reference it.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know why I'm telling you that not that interesting,
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  Speaker 1: but hey, thought i'd share. Okay, all right, you know
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  Speaker 1: how to share with me? Hit me up at disgrace
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  Speaker 1: Lampod on Facebook, on Twitter. I want to know where
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  Speaker 1: your shitty tattoos are. Let me know what tattoos do.
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  Speaker 1: You have that you regret at disgrace lampod six one
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  Speaker 2: Let's do some texts.
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  Speaker 1: From the three three Oh. Hey, Jake David here from
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  Speaker 1: the three three Oho. I would like to suggest the
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: idea of a musical generation series. It would examine the
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  Speaker 1: children of musical icons you feature. I would love a
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  Speaker 1: follow up to Hank Williams. It's about Hank two and three,
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  Speaker 1: John Bonham's son, Jason, Danny Harrison, Sean and Julian Lennon,
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  Speaker 1: Johnny Cash's son and daughter and so on. Huge influence
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  Speaker 1: from the parents adding their voice and molding it to
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  Speaker 1: play in their moment, and how these children carry the torch.
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  Speaker 1: There are a lot of very interesting layers to this
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  Speaker 1: and I think it's got a lot of eggs, could
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  Speaker 1: really grow into something. Thanks for all you do. Love
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  Speaker 1: the shows and the amazing craft care you bring to
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  Speaker 1: each episode. Cheers from all of us in the three
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  Speaker 1: three oh. Thanks three to three to zero. Appreciate the
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  Speaker 1: craft and care that you brought to that message. Great idea.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: Don't know that I can take on another series right now,
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: but perhaps there's some way there's something here. It feels
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: like there's something here, something to get into, appreciate it.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: I don'tant to think about it. And maybe I'll have
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  Speaker 1: some news. I don't know, maybe something will pop. Who knows?
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: Three three oh from the nine My two cents about
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  Speaker 1: the Lizo drama. Heye jake, I'm say okay, hold on
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: the Lizo drama for those who missed the bonus excuse
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  Speaker 1: me for those who missed the mini episode this week.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: The Lizo drama has to do with the allegations by
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: Lizzo's team, some of her dancers alleging that Lizzo sexually
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  Speaker 1: harassed them at a strip club in Amsterdam, or I
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: should say a sex show in Amsterdam. And there are
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: some other allegations that from her team that Lizzo was
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: body shaming them, which is the height of all irony.
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  Speaker 2: Makes no sense.
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  Speaker 1: So anyways, we get this text here from the nine
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  Speaker 1: to five to one. My two cents about the Lizo drama.
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  Speaker 1: Heye Jake, I'm a seamstress in La seamstress for the band.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: I added that, and I worked for a designer who
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: a few years back made some custom performance costumes for Lizzo,
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: and they poured their heart and souls into making these beautiful,
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: well made costumes for Lizzo just to have been completely
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: shit on by her and her team.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: Damn all right, I'm not going to read.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: The rest of this cause it's uh, you know, it's
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: all alleged. But anyways, Uh, what do you guys think
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: of this Lizzo thing? Let me know six one seven
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  Speaker 1: nine oh six six six three eight. The story's nuts.
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  Speaker 1: I want to hear from you guys, your thoughts on it.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: The irony is just too rich. Let's do a couple
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: more texts here. Last week we were talking about what
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: are you listening to after work when you're cracking a beer?
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: It's a specific ritual, you know what I mean? I really,
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: I really fucking enjoy it.
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  Speaker 1: I have my whole life I'm sure you guys do
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  Speaker 1: as well post work. Crack of brew cuts from the
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  Speaker 1: five to three to oh says Guns n' Roses, Paradise City,
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: Katrina and the Waves, Walking on Sunshine, The Doors, La Woman,
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: John Party, Heartache, Medication all Right, John Party, Motley Crue,
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: Kickstart My Heart, just to name a few great lists.
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  Speaker 2: Five to three to zero love It. What are you
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: guys listening to at the end of the day? Let
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  Speaker 2: me know. Let's see a couple.
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  Speaker 1: More here, five oho nine rights in, Hey, Jake, Greetings
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: from Jill of the five oh nine have been a
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: Disgraceland and bad Lands listeners since their first episodes. As requested,
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: here are some pop rock duets, but I decided to
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  Speaker 1: shout out three from the eighties. You get the Look
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  Speaker 1: by Prince and Sheena Easton, I Knew you were Waiting
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  Speaker 1: by George Michael and Aretha Franklin, and my personal fave,
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  Speaker 1: good Times by Inexcess in Jimmy Barnes, which was on
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  Speaker 1: the Lost Boys soundtrack.
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  Speaker 2: I vaguely remember that. I gotta go back and listen
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  Speaker 2: to the Lost Boys soundtrack.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: I listened to all these. I don't remember the George
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  Speaker 1: Michael and Aretha Franklin. I mean, I know, I know
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: they do edit. I just don't remember that tune. And
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: of course I remember the Prince and the Sheena Easton
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  Speaker 1: won great, great great Rex here five oh nine, sending
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  Speaker 1: me back to the eighties, which is always a welcome
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  Speaker 1: thing to do.
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  Speaker 2: All right, I'm.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: Kind of, you know, half reading these texts here while
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: I'm talking to you guys. Let's do one more here
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  Speaker 1: nine seven eight, rights, saying, Hey, Jake, this is Jack
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  Speaker 1: from Somerville. You were asking about best songs to Unwind too,
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: and I wanted to say, you can't do better than
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: that smooth jazz fusion cheese that is Hey nineteen by
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: Steely Dan. Bonus points if you're mixing a drink while
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  Speaker 1: you got it on. All right, good talk, see you
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: out there. Uh yeah, I hear this Hey nineteen. I
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: like Hay nineteen. Hey, I like Steely Dan. Now well,
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: I can't believe I just said that publicly, but I do.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: But if I'm gonna put a one Steely Dan track
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: on too Unwine Too, it's gonna be dirty work in
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  Speaker 1: the number one slot and my old school in the
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  Speaker 1: number two slot. There you go, an informed opinion from
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  Speaker 1: yours truly on Steely Dan. You never thought it would happen.
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  Speaker 1: Needed to di I all right, um, yeah, you know
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  Speaker 1: the number six one seven nine O six six six
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  Speaker 1: your voicemails, hit me at disgrace, slam pod on Instagram, Twitter, Facebook,
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  Speaker 1: and TikTok, and I shall get back to you, perhaps
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: even in one of these episodes. Gonna take a quick
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  Speaker 1: break and we'll be back with your recommendations shortly. All right,
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  Speaker 1: all right, all right, the recommendations part. This is the
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  Speaker 1: recommendation's part, the part where we recommend the things that
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: need recommending, the recommendations part what I've been listening to.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: So Robbie Robertson died, and it was sad, But in
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: these instances I try to remember that, Yes, of course,
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: it is a bummer when anyone dies, but this isn't
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  Speaker 1: like Prince dying or Tom Petty. I mean, those guys
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  Speaker 1: were older, but they definitely died too soon, and they did.
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  Speaker 2: Not live their full lives.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: Robbie Robertson was not young, and Robbie Robertson did live
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: a full life, a great life. Not the Prince and
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: Tom Petty did not. But again different circumstances. Robbie Robertson
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  Speaker 1: lived out his life as one of the greatest rock
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  Speaker 1: and roll lives a person can live.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm not that sad. It's not like I knew
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  Speaker 2: the guy.
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  Speaker 1: But I was sad, a little sad, And I think
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: my sadness I was thinking about it. Where does it
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: come from?
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: And I think it comes from the emotion in the music.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: Of the band, and of course Robbie Robertson dies. You're
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: on Instagram, you start to hear a bunch of their songs,
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: you start listening to their stuff on purpose. You know,
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: these songs Across the Great Divide, the Night they drove
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: Little Dixie Down. These songs are steeped in deep, deep
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: resonant emotion and set to the death of one of
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: their songwriters. Can make it guy, you know, can make
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: a guy tear up?
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: I almost did, but I didn't.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: Like I said, I didn't know Robbie Robertson, and I'm
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: sure most of you did not either. But I'm also
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: sure that, like me, a lot of you watched The
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: Last Waltz an infinite amount of time. So there's a
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: familiality with Robbie that is intense. And when he died,
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: I went back, and of course I watched some of
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: the Last Walls after hearing about his death, and was
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: no less emotionally walloped by it than I was when
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: I saw it for the very first time. And that's
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: because of the songs, his songs, the band's songs, and
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: Robbie Robertson's playing. The earnestness of everyone in the band,
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: not just Robbie, it's it's just something to see.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know what else to say.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: I said a lot you can hear it in the
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: mini episode, and I said some stuff on Instagram as well,
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: But you know, Garth Hutson incredibly the only one left
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: play on Garth. This is all a long way of
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: me recommending you watch Robbie Robertson in The Last Waltz.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: If you have not already for whatever reason. Maybe you're young,
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: maybe you've never heard of it, maybe you don't like
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: the band for some reason, check out The Last Waltz. Whatever,
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: whatever your reason for not watching it, that is fine.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: Just watch it. It's so fucking good. If you're into
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: rock and roll, it's a musty. For no other reason
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: then to just watch Robbie Robertson smoke Eric Clapton.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: But that's another story, all right. What else am I
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: listening to?
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm listening to another musician featured in the Last Waltz,
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: Muddy Waters, because one of our listeners, Robin Cave on Instagram,
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: hit me up, Robin put together this killer Muddy Waters playlist.
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  Speaker 1: I haven't been able to stop listening to it. If
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: you're interested in Muddy Waters, you're interested in the blues,
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: or in an artist who perhaps influenced Robbie Robertson, then
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: go to Spotify and search Muddy for Jake. That's the
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: name of the playlist, Muddy for Jake. It's great, spans
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: his whole career. It's got a bunch of mid career
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: stuff that I never even knew existed. It's fucking great.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: Thank you, Robin, I appreciate it. All right, what are
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: you guys listening to? What music related content are you watching?
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  Speaker 1: Six one seven nine oh six six six three eight
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: To let me know, I'm going to take a quick break,
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  Speaker 1: drink some tea.
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  Speaker 2: Back after this.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: All right, let's recap, shall we. Number one, Part one
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  Speaker 1: of the notorious Big Rear Release is the latest episode
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  Speaker 1: of Disgrace Slam that is in your feeds right now.
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  Speaker 1: Number two over in the bad Lands Feed, we are
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  Speaker 1: rolling along with season eight and a brand new episode
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  Speaker 1: of the notorious Big where we specifically get into his murder,
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  Speaker 1: a murder which twenty six years later remains unsolved. But
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  Speaker 1: you know, if you read between my lines, I'm pretty
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