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Navigating the Automotive World Under Trump's Complex Tariffs · In Wheel Time Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to another In Wheel Time Podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Aiden Bergman, or, as Mr Mars calls him, bagman If he don't answer the phone, he's going to be From Anderson Economic Group, talks Trump's tariffs and the automotive world, part two.
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  Speaker 1: Jeff will bring us some car culture, with trips in the backseat of the family truckster station wagon, and Mr Mars reviews the 2025 Infiniti QX60.
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  Speaker 1: Howdy Along with Mike out of this world.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Nod Nortsmra.
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  Speaker 1: Nod Nortsmra Good, yeah, you ever heard of Nod Nortsmra?
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  Speaker 1: I have now.
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  Speaker 1: Well, nod is Don backwards.
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  Speaker 1: Don Armstrong backwards.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you ever heard of Nod Nortzma?
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  Speaker 1: I have now.
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  Speaker 1: Well, nod is Don Beckwith.
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  Speaker 1: Don Armstrong Beckwith.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, nod Nortzma.
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  Speaker 1: A good friend of mine who's no longer with us that would be Roger Bateman came up with that in one of the newsrooms that I worked in years ago, and so everybody had their name spoken backwards.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, and I think his name was Regor name tab.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, roger bateman.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, anyway.
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  Speaker 1: So there's a salute to you, roger bateman.
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  Speaker 1: So we're going to try to get a hold of aiden bergsman, but in the meantime and in between time, we can still kind of go over this, because automotive news kind of puts a nice spin, if you will, on this.
• 1:49
  Speaker 1: President Trump temporarily suspended most of the reciprocal tariffs he implemented on US trading partners just hours after they took effect April 9th, but numerous tariffs remained in place, including 25% duties on automotive imports that analysts and automakers have warned could lead to skyrocketing vehicle prices and significant production shutdowns.
• 2:11
  Speaker 1: The US is still collecting 25% tariffs on vehicle imports today.
• 2:16
  Speaker 1: That duty went into effect April 3rd and applies to all vehicles except for those from Canada and Mexico that meet the United States-Mexico-Canada agreements regional content rules.
• 2:29
  Speaker 1: Those vehicles have a 25% tariff only on the value of their non-American content.
• 2:36
  Speaker 1: As I talked to Aiden about a couple of weeks ago when we spoke to him, it's just not black and white.
• 2:44
  Speaker 1: That part came from here and went from there to here to there and it's going to be something bizarre or in between that the tariff gets placed on.
• 2:54
  Speaker 2: It's a puzzle together Steel and aluminum tariffs still in place.
• 2:57
  Speaker 1: 25% on steel and aluminum tariffs still in effect.
• 3:00
  Speaker 1: They apply to steel and aluminum imports from all countries.
• 3:03
  Speaker 1: Still in effect.
• 3:05
  Speaker 1: They apply to steel and aluminum imports from all countries.
• 3:07
  Speaker 1: In response to the flow of fentanyl into the US, the tariff 25% continues on Canadian and Mexican goods that do not meet the terms of the USMCA that agreement that I just told you about.
• 3:20
  Speaker 1: But most vehicles and parts from Canada and Mexico meet those requirements.
• 3:23
  Speaker 1: The ones that don't are subject to the duty plus the full 25% auto tariff.
• 3:29
  Speaker 1: A 20% tariff on Chinese goods also remains in effect.
• 3:34
  Speaker 1: That duty stacks on top of the auto tariff for vehicles and parts shipped from China, which last I heard was 145%.
• 3:45
  Speaker 1: Reciprocal tariffs are mostly suspended for now.
• 3:48
  Speaker 1: On April 2nd they were suspended until July 9th.
• 3:51
  Speaker 1: Tariffs on imports from most trading partners range from 10% to 50%.
• 3:57
  Speaker 1: The individualized tariff rates are mostly gone, but a 10% baseline tariff is in effect instead.
• 4:03
  Speaker 1: It applies to goods from all US trading partners except Canada, mexico and China.
• 4:09
  Speaker 1: Canadian and Mexican goods are exempt from the reciprocal tariffs.
• 4:13
  Speaker 1: More tariffs are on the way as negotiations take place.
• 4:17
  Speaker 1: Trump has promised to implement more sectoral tariffs, including on semiconductors, copper, pharmaceuticals and other products.
• 4:25
  Speaker 1: It was unclear what the scope of those tariffs will be and when they might go into place.
• 4:31
  Speaker 1: So all of these government divisions, if you will, government agencies that are getting axed.
• 4:38
  Speaker 1: I think they're going to have to put it on a new tariff department.
• 4:41
  Speaker 1: How do?
• 4:42
  Speaker 1: you keep track of all of that.
• 4:43
  Speaker 2: That's the real sticker.
• 4:45
  Speaker 2: You handle automobiles, you handle farming, you handle pharmaceutical, you handle this.
• 4:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, segregated.
• 4:54
  Speaker 1: It's nuts is what it is.
• 4:56
  Speaker 2: It's hard to believe we're going to handle the liquor division, you and I.
• 5:00
  Speaker 2: In real time.
• 5:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, liquor division, michael, do the brown water side, I'll do the clear.
• 5:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you can do the gins and stuff.
• 5:08
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 5:08
  Speaker 2: And you can do the imports from Colorado, the tequilas and stuff like that.
• 5:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 5:13
  Speaker 2: Imports from Colorado.
• 5:14
  Speaker 2: That's a different division altogether.
• 5:19
  Speaker 1: That's a federal division there, buddy?
• 5:21
  Speaker 2: No, I think that falls into corn Corn, yeah, farming.
• 5:25
  Speaker 3: Farming, farming, yeah.
• 5:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know some people that could be good farmers.
• 5:30
  Speaker 2: I really do.
• 5:31
  Speaker 2: Yes, you do, old MacDonald, old MacDonald had a farm Mars.
• 5:37
  Speaker 1: are we going to be able to do this interview?
• 5:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we had an email this year.
• 5:40
  Speaker 3: He's coming right now.
• 5:41
  Speaker 1: Oh, he's coming.
• 5:41
  Speaker 1: Good, good, good, all right, so I've kind of set the stage.
• 5:44
  Speaker 1: I don't want to move on unless I if he's going to be here with us in just a minute yes, because it's too good.
• 5:50
  Speaker 1: Aiden is with.
• 5:55
  Speaker 1: Aeg.
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  Speaker 1: Consultants identified many vehicles commonly identified as American cars.
• 5:59
  Speaker 1: These are manufactured by GM, ford, toyota, honda, tesla and Chrysler.
• 6:02
  Speaker 1: These are manufactured by GM, ford, toyota, honda, tesla and Chrysler.
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  Speaker 1: They also looked at some BMW, kia and Mercedes-Benz vehicles assembled in the US With 2025 models being used as a basis.
• 6:11
  Speaker 1: They estimate the tariff costs that way and if you'd like more information, you can go to andersoneconomicgroupcom.
• 6:20
  Speaker 1: Slash tariffs.
• 6:28
  Speaker 1: And all of that you'll be able to get more information if you're really into this sort of thing.
• 6:30
  Speaker 1: It's so difficult to try to put into words exactly what the tariffs are on what vehicles and how much the exact tariff is.
• 6:37
  Speaker 1: So from what I understand, they're going to put a sticker on the window sticker.
• 6:42
  Speaker 1: You know, when they do that at the dealership, that's going to include the tariff amount for that particular car.
• 6:49
  Speaker 2: I saw a commercial this morning before coming to the studio.
• 6:52
  Speaker 2: I think it was Hyundai and it says these are non-tariffed vehicles, so they're already in inventory.
• 6:57
  Speaker 2: Is what it is.
• 6:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the ones that are already in inventory.
• 6:59
  Speaker 2: They want to make clear because there's people, people are smart, but then then again, they don't do the research to find that out, they don't do the due diligence.
• 7:06
  Speaker 2: I see Aiden there.
• 7:07
  Speaker 1: he is Fire him up.
• 7:10
  Speaker 1: Yes, let's do that, shall we?
• 7:10
  Speaker 1: Aiden Bergsman, it's good to talk to you, good to see you.
• 7:14
  Speaker 3: Yes, hello, gentlemen, good to be back.
• 7:16
  Speaker 1: Well, thank you very much.
• 7:17
  Speaker 1: I know that you're not busy at all.
• 7:18
  Speaker 1: I thought, Mars, you can actually.
• 7:23
  Speaker 1: Well, he's really busy.
• 7:25
  Speaker 1: I don't know whether they can get him on or not.
• 7:27
  Speaker 1: Well, let's try.
• 7:28
  Speaker 2: He's in the office.
• 7:29
  Speaker 2: You're in the office right now.
• 7:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you've got a coat dye on and everything I know You're looking sharp.
• 7:34
  Speaker 2: I feel underdressed.
• 7:36
  Speaker 1: Aiden, I just ran over an auto news story about trying to break it down.
• 7:43
  Speaker 1: News story about trying to break it down, but, as you and I talked a couple of weeks ago, we probably spread more gray paint on the whole issue because it is so complicated and so interwoven.
• 7:55
  Speaker 1: And now it's boiling down to hey, was the cigarette lighter made where?
• 8:00
  Speaker 1: It was made in China.
• 8:02
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's part of the tariff thing, because that's basically what it is.
• 8:06
  Speaker 1: If it's not made in America, then there's a tariff on that particular piece of the car, even though the car is built in America.
• 8:13
  Speaker 1: So maybe you can help us understand all of this.
• 8:18
  Speaker 3: I can do my best.
• 8:19
  Speaker 3: Like you said, it is very tricky and with kind of the back and forth and it's hard to remember which ones are even in effect anymore and which ones aren't.
• 8:27
  Speaker 3: But, um, you know, the current situation is, I'm sure we're all maybe aware of now, the reciprocal tariffs that were announced just last week.
• 8:36
  Speaker 3: Those have been paused, but the ones that are still in effect are those steel and aluminum and the, as you mentioned, tariffs on the car imports and their car components.
• 8:46
  Speaker 3: So, yeah, it does come down to just yeah, where is this component coming from?
• 8:52
  Speaker 3: Is it the US?
• 8:52
  Speaker 3: Is it Canada, mexico, somewhere in the EU?
• 8:56
  Speaker 3: There are some exemptions that I think they're still working on.
• 9:00
  Speaker 3: If they fit under the USMCA, certain components may not be hit with these tariffs, but that's still something that they're currently working on, trying to differentiate.
• 9:10
  Speaker 1: Well, my take on the 90-day pause on this is that I would imagine that whatever department you want to call this the tariff department within the United States government, that those guys are working 24 hours a day, seven days a week, setting up meetings with all of these countries and trying to then hash out okay, where are we going to settle on this to move forward?
• 9:33
  Speaker 1: And I would imagine that there probably aren't enough people within the United States government overall to be able to handle all of this, because each government has their own entity that handles tariffs.
• 9:45
  Speaker 1: And so the leader of that country says well, we're going to do this, we're going to do that.
• 9:49
  Speaker 1: Now you guys go back and you straighten it all out and you fix it up and you do the negotiation with the United States.
• 9:55
  Speaker 1: Isn't that the kind of read that you get on this?
• 9:58
  Speaker 3: It's certainly a lot of back and forth and you know you guys joked earlier that you guys thought I was pretty busy there.
• 10:03
  Speaker 3: They're certainly busier, you know, like you said, working around the clock, the uncertainty of it all definitely adds to it, I think, where one day you're thinking all these other tariffs are going into effect and then shortly after now they're not.
• 10:17
  Speaker 3: They were probably spending a lot of time trying to hash that out, as you said, and figure out how do we go about implementing these and what's going to be impacted versus what's not, who's involved and who's not.
• 10:29
  Speaker 3: So it's, I think, a very, you know, laborious process and, yeah, like you said, they're probably working really, really hard to figure that out.
• 10:38
  Speaker 1: Do you think that we'll ever see a free trade agreement between countries again, between the United States and country x or y or z?
• 10:47
  Speaker 3: I really hope so.
• 10:48
  Speaker 3: I I think you know that's.
• 10:49
  Speaker 3: That's the way that it should be.
• 10:52
  Speaker 3: I think, as a you know, from one country to another, we all have our strengths and we all have our weaknesses, things that we're better at producing or, you know, easier access to natural resources, and we shouldn't try to be so self-reliant because there are other countries that can do some things better than we can, and we can do some things better than others can, and I think for us to all gain the benefits of what we all can do very well, it does have to stem from some free trade and relying on others and being okay with not being able to do everything yourself, because you've got your friends and allies out there who can help when you need the help.
• 11:30
  Speaker 1: Well, it is a global economy and I think that we, for decades now, have really been working on a global economy.
• 11:37
  Speaker 1: Unfortunately, I think that there are some countries that have taken advantage of us and, as I just go by what Donald Trump says, that they're raking us over the coals, so to speak, on many items with the tariffs that they place on American goods, and then we have to pay all of the extra.
• 11:55
  Speaker 1: It's just a bad, biased kind of thing that needs to be straightened out.
• 12:01
  Speaker 1: But beyond all of that, I wanted to focus with you for a moment now, because we have a lot of our viewers and listeners that really want to talk about stock prices, what it's doing to the stock market and how it affects even if you're not in the stock market how it affects people.
• 12:18
  Speaker 1: So I'll let you try to guide us on this kind of discussion, because I've got a 401k, I'm invested in the stock market through a 401k and I know what it's done to my 401k here recently is not a good thing.
• 12:37
  Speaker 1: So what is your take on this?
• 12:40
  Speaker 3: Well, I think, much like everything else, it's pretty taxing to experience and to see, and you know, much like you, I also have a 401k, and so we're seeing effects of that as well, and I don't have any other kind of personal stocks or investments, but for people that do it's you know, you're hearing all these stories of just you know, one day it seems to be recovering and then the next announcement is made and everything just starts to tumble and it's across the board.
• 13:06
  Speaker 3: And, from what I just see in the news and from friends or family, it's a lot to take in.
• 13:14
  Speaker 3: Not only are we, from our perspective, focusing on the auto impact of it, but it's really being felt everywhere.
• 13:20
  Speaker 2: Aiden, I've got a question for you.
• 13:22
  Speaker 2: If they came to you and said, Aiden, fix it for us, what would you do?
• 13:25
  Speaker 2: What's?
• 13:29
  Speaker 3: your opinion on how it should work.
• 13:29
  Speaker 2: You can pick a segment Pick just the automobile segment.
• 13:31
  Speaker 2: Sorry, Just pick the one segment like an automobile segment.
• 13:35
  Speaker 2: To fix with all of the.
• 13:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, that's a good question.
• 13:41
  Speaker 3: I mean, I certainly don't think trying to target these components that come from other places is certainly going to help.
• 13:50
  Speaker 3: If a certain vehicle line is going to be relying on maybe a lot more Canadian or Mexican components and we're just targeting that, then I mean, you know what are we doing.
• 14:16
  Speaker 2: That car is just going.
• 14:17
  Speaker 2: Opinion should be done.
• 14:26
  Speaker 3: Tariffs are a pretty tricky thing, and especially when they're all widespread like this and hard to keep track of, I think it can be a little hard to keep track of, maybe, what the whole underlying point was and kind of what that solution is and how we can maybe make it more beneficial for people rather than seeming like this dark cloud looming over that things are just going to get more expensive, right.
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: And that things are going to get worse and we're going to lose more money in the stock market.
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: You know, a good friend of mine actually handles my 401k.
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: He told me several years ago hey look, there's going to be bumps in the road when it comes to investments with your 401k and that sort of stuff.
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: The best advice that I can give you is don't panic Everybody wants to, you know to stop all your stock market stuff.
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: Stop everything that you're doing.
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: Ride it out.
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: Chances are.
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: If you look at the past history of the stock market, it will even itself out and it will bring itself back.
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: And it was a 10, I heard on the radio they were using a 10-year analogy of the stock prices.
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: And if you bought the stock 10 years ago and then you look at it on a year-to-year basis, you get this wavy line where it comes and goes and it gets better, it gets worse, that sort of stuff.
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: But overall the value of that $1 piece of stock that you had has already grown over the years into something that you would typically not find if you go to your local bank and put your money in a savings account.
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a very good point.
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: I think panicking can only, you know, make it worse for some people and is going to add more stress and more anxiety and all of that.
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: And you're right over time, if you you know you select a large period, you're going to have those ebbs and flows, the ups and downs.
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: You're going to have times when you're doing really, really well with your stocks or your investments and because of that, it's when the times are a bit tougher and you're seeing those declines that you need to remember that you're going to be okay.
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: You've been doing pretty well before and up until that point, and there's always going to be the positives and negatives.
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: It's not always going to be just a really, really smart investment that only gets better and better.
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: If that were the case, I'd like to know which one that is and I'd like to join in that one too.
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: In your job.
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: What are you focused on right now?
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: Well, we did our update to our tariff analysis, which our first iteration of was really just focused on the Canadian and Mexican tariffs, and at the time what we were finding is we're going to see these impacts on vehicles with those, you know, the reliance on those countries for components or assembly or manufacturing or manufacturing, and at the time some of the winners, it seemed, were going to be vehicles from either the EU or from Asia that weren't relying on parts from those countries and you know they could not be as impacted.
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: But now, with these across-the-board autos and auto parts tariffs, we've updated it and we're now kind of seeing that narrative flip where we're still seeing these costs going up for North American produced vehicles, but also we're seeing some pretty steep costs for vehicles with heavy reliance on European parts or Asian parts, because those are now being rolled into these tariffs.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: Well, you know, somebody said on the news the other day that, oh, I've got to go out and buy me a new car right now.
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: And the cars that are on the ground in the United States at the dealerships, those really aren't any more affected by what's going on in Washington and the current tariff ups and downs than they were before.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: So if you want to go buy a car, buy it off.
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: The lot is my suggestion there's plenty of inventory.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: I read a story and mentioned it earlier before you came on that there's I don't remember what manufacturer it is, but they're holding all of their imported cars I think it was an Asian company, I don't know if it was Hyundai or somebody but they're holding all of their cars that are coming off of the ships at the port, so they're not sending them to the dealers.
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: So they're going to try to ride it out as long as they can until they get the tariff situation straightened out with their country.
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you're right there.
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: From what I've heard, the vehicles currently on lots those aren't.
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: You know, they didn't pass through the borders and the ports with these tariffs in effect so they weren't.
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: You know, nobody had to pay for that tariff.
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: The costs weren't going up.
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: I'm sure you guys have seen some commercials I know we have some here for the ones I've seen were Ford and GM or Ford and Jeep, rather offering employee pricing for some of their vehicles, and I'm assuming that's for these at least, the vehicles on lots currently.
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: So we're starting to see now some of the responses from these OEMs and how they are handling these tariffs and, at least initially, it seems like they're trying to get with the consumers and show them that they're at least for now, that there's some benefits and that they can not have to worry too much about going to the lot and seeing these prices skyrocket.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: So it's andersoneconomicgroupcom slash tariffs, and that's where we can drill down into the latest report.
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: Yep, that's correct.
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: We released it a couple of weeks ago, I think April 2nd, and you know, as this continues to develop, I'm sure we'll spend some more time, even adding more vehicles to our analysis and really drilling down into the minute details of the tariffs coming from which countries and how much.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: Well, aidan, it's a great pleasure to have you on the show with us.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: I know you're extremely busy and I know that this was kind of a we've got to talk to those guys again, but we truly appreciate your knowledge and thank you very much for spending the time with us today.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: You take care and let's stay in touch.
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll do, happy to be on.
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: Thank you, aiden.
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: Thanks so much, aiden.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: Bergsman, anderson Economic Group.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: All right, let's take a little break, shall we?
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: Yep?
• 20:13
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  Speaker 1: Now for Jeff's car culture.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: Remember riding in the backseat of your parents' station wagon?
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: A lot of people do.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: Yep, yep, yep, we're ready to hear all about it.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, these are things that kids rode in a station wagon remember.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: If you grew up in the 60s or 70s.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: Chances are you spent countless hours in the back of that wagon.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: Before minivans and SUVs took over, these wood-paneled beasts were the ultimate car family.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: Those of us who survived the pre-seat belted days have some unique memories of what your kid did as a kid back there.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: Nowadays the kids won't understand.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: The first one we talk about is the coveted rear-facing back seat.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: The rear-facing third seat was a prime real estate.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: People would fight the kids would fight over who rides in the back, waving their cars behind, making faces at other kids.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: It was like having your own private clubhouse on wheels.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: If it meant getting a little carsick sometimes that was okay too.
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: And the next one they appreciated was the way back was our territory.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: The vast cargo area behind the seats was our domain.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: Kids sprawled out with pillows and blankets on long trips, reading comics, playing games or just watching the sky through the rear window.
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  Speaker 2: No seatbelts, no rules, just freedom to roam in a rolling living room.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: The third one we appreciated was wood paneling.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: It was cool.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, baby, those fake wood panels and the sides were the height and style.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: Whether it was a Ford Country Squire, a Chrysler Town Country, the wood grain siding made our cars look like surfboards on wheels.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: We had no idea how tacky it was.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: You know decades decades later.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: So there you go, there you go and then we have the uh, manual rear window.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: The rear window was a source of endless fascination, some rolled down into tailgate, others lifted up, but all required manual operation.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: The power window was a luxury few had, and we became experts at the crank and latch system.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: Road trips we all did them with no see, no screens or devices.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: We invented our own entertainment license plate bingos, I spy, the alphabet game for all the activities that we had.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: The station wagon became a mobile game room with siblings competing and parents mediating from the front seat.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: I'm not touching you.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: I'm not touching you.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: I'm not touching you.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: That was a big one.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: Tailgate party position.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: The drop-down tailgate was perfect for picnics, drive-in, movies, parade watching.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: It became an instant bench seat, complete with metal support that would leave impressions on the backs of your legs.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: Every family gathering started with pop the tailgate.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: There you go.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: You knew it was a party after that Summertime seat burn.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: Those final seats were lethal in the summer.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: We learned to check the seat temperature before sitting down or risk that third-degree burns on the back of your legs.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: The ritual of throwing blankets over the seats became second nature during the hot weather season.
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: And, of course, who remembers no air conditioning experience?
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: Many wagons didn't have AC back then.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: They relied on the 40-60 system Four windows down, 60 miles an hour.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: Your hair got tangled, maps flew around and you couldn't hear anything.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: But it was our version of climate control Secret storage.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: We all had it.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: Every wagon had hidden compartments under the floor or in the aisles.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: This became our treasure trove storing emergency supplies, hidden snacks or that forgotten toy on the summertime trip.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: Finding something months later was like discovering a buried treasure.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: And, of course, by then it was the end of an era.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: When minivans appeared in the 80s, our beloved wagons began disappearing.
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: Modern kids will never know the joy of riding backwards, the freedom of the way or the distinctive squeak of those vinyl seats.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: The station wagon wasn't just a car, it was a way of life that was so good.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: It was good, yeah, I enjoyed it we had wagons.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: They were fun.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: They were fun.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: How many brothers and sisters?
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: I was the youngest of four, but it wasn't our wagon.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: We would ride relatives and things.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: My dad always had a Pontiac or a Cadillac or something.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: See my sister and brother-in-law.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: They had a station wagon, four kids and man.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: That thing got wore out.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're cool, they are.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: And that's why I like them to today I like a station wagon.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: Well, you know what's so funny?
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: Because really in essence, the SUVs that everybody drives now.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: It's basically a station wagon.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: And you know you had your.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: The doors had ashtrays with cigarette lighters in them and all that.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: Everybody pushing them.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: Don't play with the lighter, all that stuff, oh yeah.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: How about the tattoo that you got on your?
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: leg.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, yeah.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: Burning it on your leg.
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: I'm not touching you.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: That's a favorite one of mine.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: All right, maz.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: Do you want to do your car review now or do you want to wait until the bottom of the hour?
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: That's up to you.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: I can do it right now.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: I was just answering Mr Ainsley.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: He had a question about our engineering, but I'm good to go.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: Our engineering is his engineering, is it not?
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: Oh, he's asking questions about the other stuff that you're working on.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: Okay, well, I don't know what to do.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: I think we need a new raffimator valve Do we have time.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: We only got three minutes?
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: No, we don't.
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: I can be quick, but not quite that quick.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, I don't trust Mike on the quickness.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: No, I don't either, and I think that we're going to do work right off the top of the next hour.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I have a story that that I want to throw in here while I can.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: Automakers investing billions of dollars developing more sophisticated driver assistance systems may want to think twice.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: Consumer demand has stagnated from many of the underlying features in those systems.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: According to AutoPacific, the most popular ones support human drivers rather than monitor or critique their behavior.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: According to findings from the market research firm's latest consumer survey, 88% of respondents viewed parking sensors favorably, according to the findings, while blind spot cameras 83 percent and rear cross-traffic alerts with automated emergency braking 80 percent, also received high satisfaction marks.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: Consumers reported their highest levels of disapproval with speed limit warnings and driver monitoring systems, which they viewed as vehicular school marms.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: 80% say they did not like driver monitoring, while 17% disliked speed limit warnings.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: Findings may complicate efforts to rely on new technology as a primary means to combat traffic deaths on US roads.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: Despite an influx of technology offerings, road fatalities remain higher than they were a decade ago.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: Part of the reason Consumers remain reluctant to pay for technology features, even as their awareness of them grows.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: According to AutoPacific's research, the In World Time Car Talk Show continues right after this quick break.
• 29:11
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• 29:20
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• 29:25
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• 29:31
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• 29:41
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• 29:48
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• 29:52
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• 30:02
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• 30:06
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• 30:11
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• 30:27
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• 30:44
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