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Embracing Inner Game for Personal Transformation with Deepak Saini · The One Small Change Podcast

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  Hello, everybody. We're at it again. I am so
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  glad that we're here for the One Small Change podcast.
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  And I'm your host, Yvonne McCoy, and I bring over 30
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  years of entrepreneurial experience and passion for
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  discovering growth through the power of seemingly small
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  change. And I wanna thank you for joining me again this week in this
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  journey of exploration and transformation. And I'm
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  gonna share, and also my guests, will share some
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  smaller unexpected change that had, you know,
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  a remarkable transformation in their growth, either their personal
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  or professional or both. And so my guest today
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  is Deepak Shaney. And I just wanna say
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  this, we have had some interesting experiences
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  together, but I am so glad that he's still willing to talk to
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  me. So so, Deepak,
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  how are you today? I'm I'm doing great. The weather is nice.
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  It's sun is shining. I I'm I'm doing fantastic.
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  So I want our audience
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  to know what you do and what
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  was, you know, and why you do it and kind of what the one small
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  changes that had that unexpected
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  impact on you. Yeah. Absolutely. Okay. Really
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  quickly, there's a couple things I I I do. I'm kind of in definitely in
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  the health space as people can see there, Deepak say need health, and we'll we'll
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  get to how I got here, because that was not my first, first career.
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  I tend to work with entrepreneurs, and I have 2 different offerings. And I
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  won't get into too much detail, but essentially, my hand high end offering,
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  for successful entrepreneurs is is for those who, you know,
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  they probably are saying to themselves, I'm a little bit
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  heavier than I used to be. I'm a little bit more tired than I used
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  to be. I'm not having the type of fun I used to have And that
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  maybe is in the bedroom or otherwise, and they're ready to make those changes
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  and actually really look at their life. And how many times entrepreneurs can understand they've
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  built so busy building their business that they put some of their personal life,
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  including their health on the back burner, and they're conscious enough to
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  make that change. So that's that's kind of one group. And then the other group
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  I work with are people who are more just you know, they have they they
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  realize they have limiting beliefs. They have some emotional regulation
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  issues, and they wanna handle that. They wanna get rid of some of those negative
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  emotions, get some of those, rid of those limiting beliefs,
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  and move their life forward either in their personal life or for their, business. And,
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  hey, we've all been there, and it's always a it's it's a challenge. So that's
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  that's that's who I work with. But, to your to your question of
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  one small change, let me just take a step backwards. My first profession,
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  as I said, being in the health field is wasn't my first thing. I'm a
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  CPA by first profession. I was a I was a
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  accountant, in, you know, corporate finance, corporate accounting for over
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  20 years. I was someone who always struggled with with my health.
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  You know, Ivan, you didn't know me back then, but I was morbidly obese as
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  a as a teenager, a £100 heavier than I am now. Autoimmune
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  condition, my my entire life, I get chronically sick, you know,
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  3, 4 times a year for weeks on end. You know, you're just
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  getting better, and you just think you're moving forward and get sick again. That was
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  essentially me my almost my entire life. But what really was my
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  turning point was, 2014. My youngest
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  daughter, excuse me, was just a baby, and I hurt my back. Hurt my
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  back so bad, I, couldn't bend over at the waist. I had no flexion.
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  So I couldn't essentially do anything. Couldn't golf anymore. I couldn't run.
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  Very painful to move. Very painful getting in and out of a chair. That
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  includes the toilet. But I couldn't pick out my youngest daughter out of her crib.
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  So that was my turning point in trying to heal myself and find
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  the modalities to heal myself. And, I mean, we can take this line of
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  thinking if you want, but, I like to say the western medical system wasted 18
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  months of my health and had no answers for me. I found all you know,
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  alternative means, alternative modalities, if you will, heal
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  myself, and that started my transition of just thinking differently
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  and what was actually available for me in in my life. And I realized
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  I was thinking very, scarcity mindset, very small. And when I
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  opened my mindset of what's possible for my health,
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  that's what everything kind of started from changing that, and that what led me to
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  doing what I'm doing today as as far as the profession. I I don't
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  know that I ever shared with you that at one point I was
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  £440. No. You did not share that.
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  And lost a 150. Well, actually, I lost more than that, but
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  I kept off a 100 and 50. And my small change
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  that made that happen was that, I was gonna be a
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  grandmother, and I wanted to be an active
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  grandmother with my grandchild. I did not my grandmother, who I
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  love dearly, I jokingly said was 5, you know, 5 by
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  5. She was 5 foot tall and 5 foot ground. I mean, she just, you
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  know, was a little butterball of love. But I didn't
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  I didn't want that to be me. And so I think, you
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  know, part of the big thing that
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  came out of that is we we we know how
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  most of the time. We just don't have a big enough why, and that's what
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  I think taps into your vision. And that is, for me, the you
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  know, I had gone to doctors. I had done all kinds of stuff. I'd done
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  all kinds of stuff. I'd done all kinds of diets and, you know, what have
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  you. But the fact that I had
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  a grandchild coming was the big why that
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  I you know, the change that I needed, why it was actually important to
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  do this. Yeah. Yvonne, I just thank you for sharing that. I did not know
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  that for how long we've we've known each other for, like, over a year now.
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  I never heard that first. So thank you for sharing that. And, 2 things I'll
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  say. Number 1, yes. Many of my clients, that come to me
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  for any of the work that I do is either, a, they've become grandparents
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  or recently become grandparents or they've become parents, and they wanna
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  like that. It's the it's a wake up call for sure. And I love that
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  you said the why because, again, for me, that's what it boils down
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  to was my why. I wanted to be able to be able to pick up
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  my youngest daughter and and and and be active with my older daughter. You know,
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  I'm the I'm the kind type of dad, you know, at least when they were
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  younger, they're they're too big now. But, you know, who'd, you know, throw the
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  kids up in the air and spin them around and all these kind of things.
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  I'm like, I couldn't do that anymore. So so my why
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  at at that time was just to, like, be able to do those things again.
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  And now my why to this day is basically the same, essentially the same. It's
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  like, I remember how crummy life was. That was 10 years ago. I remember
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  how crummy life was when I couldn't move and do those things, and I never
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  wanna go back there. So all my personal practices for my own
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  health line of in in that fashion. And, again, that's the first thing
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  I talk with my clients regardless of what they're coming to me for or how
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  we're working together is, like, what is your why? Mhmm. Why do you wanna
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  make this change? So I love I love that you brought that up. Yeah. And
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  and I think part of that has to do I think the other piece that
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  was really important for me was that I
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  needed to find I I I one of the misconceptions that I find
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  all the time is that or at least that I had was I had a
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  purse a a professional persona, and I had a
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  personal persona. And what I've discovered is
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  when you come up with philosophies or whatever you're
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  doing and you can incorporate in them into both,
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  you are so more you're so much more relaxed because there's just
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  one one you. Right? And not only
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  that, it reinforces itself in a lot of
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  different ways. And so for me, what the one of the weird exercises that I
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  came up with, mental exercises, was I said, when did I
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  when did I feel like I was at my best? And it was I was
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  21, and I came up with 3 words. But but the most
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  powerful one was from a friend of mine who knew me when then, and
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  she said you were the most adventurous person I'd ever met.
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  And at £440, just going up and down the stairs
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  was, like, there was no adventure. There was no sponsorship.
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  And so everything after that, I would say both in my
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  work and my personal, how can I make this adventuresome? How can I
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  make this, you know, my husband said I was the most intriguing woman
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  he'd ever met? So it was kind of like, I was writing these really dull
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  reports, and it was like, how can I put something kinda quirky in
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  it and intriguing? And I'm sure they edited it out,
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  but it made me feel good. And so
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  that's, you know, it kinda combined what I was looking to
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  achieve in my personal life along with my business life.
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  So that I was living it, you know, 247 in
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  in, you know, all parts of it. Yeah. We
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  we have to live our truth regard regardless, you know, we have to live our
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  truth. We can't be living a persona or what have you. And if we
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  and if we do and sometimes for a short period or whatever the purpose, in
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  the end, it's not sustainable, and, eventually, it'll bite us in the butt.
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  So the the question my audience is predominantly
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  predominantly entrepreneurial women. And so one of
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  the things that I'd like to find out from you is
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  as you went into these different modalities,
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  what were some of the things that you found that
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  surprised you or that helped you a lot?
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  Yeah. Great question. Like you said earlier, Yvonne, you
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  said something to the fact of, like, I knew what to do. We all
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  know what to do from a conceptual
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  level. I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna answer this a little bit
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  in 2 ways in 2 different aspects to give a complete
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  answer. So from a from a from a physical kinda
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  health point of view, yes, we all know what to do. But, again,
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  tying it to your why, as we just discussed, you
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  know, what's what's truly important? What's gonna sustain us when, you know,
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  that it becomes hard to make that this that decision. Right? That's putting down that
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  second glass of wine or passing on that cake or whatever the case
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  may be in in that in that sense. So really, really tied to that. But
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  also it's like there's no one size fits all. There's no one perfect diet
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  for everyone or nutrition plan or exercise plan or whatever. It's
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  really getting to that nuance. Again, with my with my clients,
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  I you know, we're really
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  I'm really big proponent of of testing and not that testing is the be all
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  end all, but, you know, it's it's having, you know, your genetic
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  markers, your microbiome, having your metabolics,
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  blood work, etcetera, tying that to your lifestyle goals,
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  your ethnicity, your cultural norms,
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  your family's dynamics, etcetera, and tying all these,
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  together. That's that's the secret sauce because it just can't be, like, do this or
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  do that if that doesn't resonate or from a epigenetical point
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  of view is not it'll it will never work because it it's not a it's
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  not a a line for you. So that's that's one because that's kind of the
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  physical. The other part is actually the inner game, if you'll, which
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  is what I'm really leaning into more so now. And, you
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  know, not only from my my with my clients, but also myself, and I'm continues
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  to do this work on myself because, hey, no one's perfect. Deepak's really not
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  perfect. Is, you know, what are the limiting beliefs? You know,
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  what are the things holding me back? What are some of the emotional
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  regulation things while much approved or not not perfect? Not and then not that they
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  ever will be perfect. And I and I like to say this as well, regardless
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  of where you are on your journey and how and and your success level, and
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  and success can be defined many different ways. Right? And our personal relationships can be
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  money in our businesses, etcetera.
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  And, Yvonne, we know some of these same people or who we would both consider,
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  you know, like, oh, they're so much more successful. I aspire to be them when
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  they hey. They all have limiting beliefs themselves.
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  Sometimes they're the same things we struggle with or this or the scale is different.
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  It but everyone has them. So this I think these are things we continuously need
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  to work on. And what I find, the more I I'm steeped in this community
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  and the more I work with entrepreneurs, the more it actually comes up. It's that
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  inner game that's actually holding them back. It's the limiting beliefs. It's the
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  emotional regulation, trauma, even past traumas,
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  and that type of thing. So that's been a I I don't wanna say a
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  wake up call because we intuitively all know this, but now that I do more
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  of this work and I work more and more with people, You know, I
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  I'm I'm working I was working with someone this morning. We talked about in, you
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  know, their procrastination. I know what I need to do to build my business. I
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  know I need to make the phone calls. I'm just stuck. So it's okay. Well,
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  let's break this. Let's break it and get you from procrastination to motivation.
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  Well, the thing I you know, one of the things that I say to people
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  is it's progress, not, you know,
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  perfection. It's kinda like peeling the onion. And and every
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  time you get a little bit better, you hear different things. You may have
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  I mean, I just somebody that I did for another podcast, they
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  said something on the podcast that I'm sure they've said to me for the last
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  year. And I finally went, oh my god. Is
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  this is this is what you've been talking about? And I think
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  the other thing is you're absolutely right. I mean, I think, you know,
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  what I see so often is people
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  and whether it has to do with food or whether it has to do with
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  their business in a program, they try to follow a guru,
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  you know, and follow the steps. But what I say is you need
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  situational awareness. You need to feel confident enough that you
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  can adjust and tweak and make it work for you.
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  Do you know? And so one of the the weird things that has just
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  happened is I made a big push
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  to get my cholesterol down. It wasn't bad, but my husband's was a little bad,
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  and we went to more plant based eating. And so I
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  just got a call from my doctor that my iron is really low
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  because we'd given up a lot of meat. We haven't adjusted accordingly.
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  And it's like, it was never real high to
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  begin with when, you know but I said to my husband, I think that's
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  probably why the last couple weeks I've been saying, I really want you to cook
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  some meat. I really want some meat.
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  And so Your your body will send you the signal. Will sending me the signal.
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  And it you know, it's kind of like it's, you know, the making those
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  adjustments. And the other weird thing is, you know,
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  I used to when I first lost my first £100, I did a lot of
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  health coaching. And, you know, people are like, I have to give up
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  this and I have to and I'm like, no. You you know, make a decision
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  about something you can live with. You know? I
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  mean, I could not give up chocolate or coffee for the rest of my life.
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  I mean, it maybe, but not a you know?
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  And the weird thing is I have found this brownie that I
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  that I make that's high in fiber and
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  it's got walnuts in it and has chi chia seeds
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  and oatmeal and stuff like that. And I have it every night
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  and it does not spike my blood sugar. I mean, when I talked to my
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  endocrinologist, he was like I said, I eat it between 8 and
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  9 every night. He goes, your blood sugar looks fine.
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  And my, you know, my a one c has been going down, and I don't
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  crave the other junk food. It's like, you know, I've
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  got my brownie every night. You know. And so it
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  seems counterintuitive, you know, I don't have a whole sheet
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  cake. I have a little dish, you know, but it seems counterintuitive,
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  but it works for me mentally and physically, you know,
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  because I've adapted it. I tried it once with bananas, you know,
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  because I need potassium and that just made my sugar go up. And
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  so you you have to be able to be your own advocate, and I think
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  that's what we've kind of lost. And I and and to tie this back
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  just in general, it comes from my explanation
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  of us coming out of an industrial society because
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  our educational society teaches
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  you not to be creative and think out of the box. It teaches you to
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  follow instructions and be a follower. And
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  so now we're in the Absolutely. Now we're in the information
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  society, and we have lots of information, but we don't know how to
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  filter it or to implement it. Yeah. You may have key point there. There's
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  so many things you just said there, Yvonne. So, yeah, the last last point,
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  filter. That's the most important thing. Filter the information.
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  Again, that's why it's good to listen to
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  many viewpoints and not just listen to 1 channel or 1 guru
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  or 1 coach and, you know, just again using myself. You know, I've
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  I've multiple coaches that I work with for different things. And and and even in
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  those specific realms, I look at
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  various, opinions as well, and I can bring that to the person that I'm actually
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  paying to to work with me for whatever that the case may be. And you're
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  absolutely right. The the the education system or the system in
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  general is meant to good worker bees who worked in factories in the 19 forties
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  fifties. We don't live in that age anymore. Exactly, like you said. And
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  I and I love, you know, you know, back to your your brownie examples. Like,
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  there's no one size fits all for someone. Right? Like, just
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  one ingredient in your brownie could be the thing that spikes them. It doesn't spike
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  for you. Awesome. Amazing. They found the thing. For somebody else, they totally could be
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  something that spikes their blood sugar or causes them inflammation, or or
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  what have you. Right? So we gotta we gotta, you know, figure all these things
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  out again. It's highly individualized. There's no one size fits all.
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  And and I guess back to my last point to that, something you brought came
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  to mind earlier, and I I don't wanna interrupt you. That's why I'm a big
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  fan of, like, going back to a book. You know, every maybe 2 or 3
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  years later and reading the same book again, even though you might have your highlights
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  and flags and whatever someone does, or at least that's what I do,
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  you're in a different place. You're a different person now, and the way you
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  think and the questions you ask yourself are different. And now you're
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  like, oh, now I really understand what the author is saying, or maybe
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  not. It's just like, oh, I have a different perspective of what they're saying now,
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  and something different come up. So, you know, you can see behind me, you got
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  all these books and even the top shelf you can't see, you know, that I
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  and I just periodically, you know, every couple years go back to them again and
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  just get new things. Well, that's that that's my thing where I say, every
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  once in a while, you just need to go back to basics. Go back to
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  where you started. Right? And take a look and
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  see what your frame of mind was and and and
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  and and it's funny because one time I made a list of every all
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  the tools that I had created, and I had, like, a list of about
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  36. And when I went back and I looked at them, some of the
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  ones that I did in the beginning were the best
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  because they weren't, you know, they were very simple and it's like, I
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  can add to this. I can now see why this
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  works, you know, because I'm smarter, and I can I can add to
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  it? And it's funny because I go back and I go, boy, that was
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  good. This makes so much sense. I'm gonna start
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  using this again because you're bringing more you know, you started with a
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  certain perspective, a certain I wanna say it
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  it was kind of an uncluttered perspective before you
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  got so involved in other people. It was really yours.
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  And now you have other things that you can bring with it. So it you
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  know, when you go back to the basics and you enhance it, it's even better
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  than it was before. So I absolutely agree with you
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  on that. And I think,
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  the industrial mindset, unfortunately,
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  I think has a lot to do with
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  our limiting beliefs. You know, you
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  know, I one of the examples I always use
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  is, you know, for a long time, even now, I don't think
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  anybody in my family knows what I do. They don't quite understand what Yeah. I
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  don't think they know what I do either. My family. Don't worry don't worry about
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  it, Yvonne. And and and so forever my mom would say, you know,
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  because I have a Wharton MBA and and, you know, so her thing is why
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  don't you just get a job? You know, because that's the
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  industrial way. You go and you get education and you get a job and you
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  work there. It you know, it used to be that you worked for 30 years,
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  but now you don't. And so, you know, even if if you do
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  get a job, part of your responsibility for
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  yourself is to educate yourself as much as you can from what's
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  available at that job. So when, for whatever reason, you
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  have to leave, you've got a better product in yourself.
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  Do you know? And and and, you know, because those skills are
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  portable. But, but I think the mindset is
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  I have to do it this way. Nobody wants to hear what I have to
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  say or, you know, it's not my job or it's
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  outside my role kind of thing. And I and I and I see that
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  all the time because it it's like
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  it's it's like somebody grinds away the thing that makes
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  you unique, You know? You started out with this wonderful
• 20:59
  individuality, and when you're finished, you're just a little round pebble.
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  Yeah. I mean, it starts with our school system. Right? Like, there's
• 21:06
  no 5, 7 year olds who are stressed
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  out and blah blah blah. No imagination. No
• 21:13
  creativity. Right? Like, we beat it out of people. Don't
• 21:16
  sit at your desk. Don't move. Start start the wall.
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  Lines. Color Color in the lines. Yeah. Exactly. You know, the grass
• 21:24
  is always green. You know? I mean, that was what my remember my mom saying
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  to me. You know? The grass can't be purple, but, you know,
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  those kinds of things. Alright. But before we run out of time, can you give
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  us a couple action steps that can help us that people can
• 21:40
  actually start using? Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely.
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  So a a couple things here. So, maybe just go let me go a little
• 21:47
  bit meta and then kind of burp boil it down to some action stuff. So
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  I guess the number one is I'm a big proponent
• 21:56
  with my clients or otherwise and certainly for myself is just, like, really, really
• 22:00
  focusing on what is true what do we truly want and
• 22:03
  what is maybe truly missing. So maybe that's doing we need to
• 22:07
  do some inner game work. Again, we're talking to entrepreneurs primarily here,
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  and, you know, there's tons of tactics and marketing and all this stuff. But if
• 22:14
  you have limiting beliefs, none of that's gonna make a difference. Yeah. But yeah.
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  No. I shouldn't say that. You're gonna you're gonna make some progress, but you can
• 22:20
  make so much more progress if you, you know, had your inner game in
• 22:24
  check. So, you know, whatever that is for you is really be aware of
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  of of that at a at a high level, at a meta level, and then
• 22:31
  kinda work your way down. I'm a huge proponent of, like,
• 22:35
  you know, doing certain things to just, like, reset ourselves. So maybe that's
• 22:39
  taking a breath. Maybe that's meditation. Certainly
• 22:42
  doing some exercise. You're feeling struggling with a problem? Go
• 22:46
  outside in nature and go for a walk. Trust me. The the solution will probably
• 22:50
  come to you. Just do basic things. And if you can do these
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  basic things, so much of
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  our anxieties and our tensions and our conflicts will just melt away.
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  And, yeah, there's gonna be other other stuff, and we gotta do some more advanced,
• 23:05
  things. But just do do the basics.
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  Clean water, clean air, eat healthy,
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  move a little bit, get out in the sunshine, and just
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  learn to breathe properly, meditate if if you want to or
• 23:20
  Tai Chi or whatever is your thing, and have your
• 23:24
  problems resolved right there. And and you know what?
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  I I think what people need to understand is
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  there are things in each of those that you can do. So for
• 23:34
  instance, you know, I admit that I have some
• 23:38
  mobility issues. But, you know, if I go online,
• 23:42
  I I have a 10 minute Tai Chi seated Tai Chi that I can do.
• 23:46
  That's great because if I have, like, 20 minutes before the next
• 23:50
  call, I can slip that in. Do you know? I mean, that was the one
• 23:53
  thing that I learned was to have a variety. If you say you're gonna exercise,
• 23:57
  have a variety of ways that you can do that. So if it rains, you
• 24:00
  go, I can't go outside because it's raining. Well, you've got something else you can
• 24:03
  do, you know, or you can buy a raincoat, which is what I did when
• 24:06
  I got a dog. The dog still had to go out, and I and I
• 24:09
  used to say that was my exercise thing. So, Having
• 24:13
  a dog is a great exercise motivator because you have to get outside. And even
• 24:17
  if it's a slow pace and only 5 minutes, you're still
• 24:20
  moving. And you cannot hang your clothes on it. That's
• 24:24
  the other that's the other thing that's really important. That's been my experience. They don't
• 24:28
  like when you drape your clothes on top of your dog. That's right. The last
• 24:32
  thing is, what's the freebie? What's the gift you're
• 24:35
  gonna give us? Yeah. Absolutely. So it you know, kind of to my
• 24:39
  my last point there, it's it's a guide, for the
• 24:43
  successful entrepreneur. 7 7, action steps,
• 24:47
  that you can take. And so at the beginning, just to kinda read read about
• 24:50
  them and why why they're beneficial, not only to your health, but also
• 24:54
  to your business. And then at the end of it is 30 days of
• 24:57
  tracking. So of these habit changes or habits we wanna implement. So
• 25:01
  now I'm gonna be perfectly clear. Do not try all 7 at once. You
• 25:05
  are just you're setting yourself up a failure. Choose 1, maybe 2.
• 25:09
  No more than 2 at a time. Choose 1 or 2.
• 25:13
  Track it for 30 days. If it resonates with you, great. Keep doing that. You
• 25:16
  built a new habit. If it doesn't, that's fine too. Go back to the beginning,
• 25:19
  pick another one. And at the end of some period of time, of those 7,
• 25:23
  maybe there's a handful, maybe there's all 7, you picked up a new healthy habit
• 25:26
  for you that you can incorporate, into your life.
• 25:30
  Fantastic. I I absolutely believe in trackers. I don't know what your
• 25:34
  tracker looks like, but I have to tell you, and this is another
• 25:38
  thing about picking something that works for you. I am not a journaler. I don't
• 25:42
  want a food journal. You know, it's kind of like I know what I ate,
• 25:45
  and I don't wanna write it down. And the other part is it
• 25:49
  if I if there's a lesson I learned, I don't know how to find it
• 25:52
  in a journal. So I have a tracker too that
• 25:56
  I will share with you a different time. So here's the here's the
• 25:59
  the question. Here's the the teaser. When was the last time
• 26:03
  that you did something new for the first time?
• 26:07
  When was the last time I did something new for the first
• 26:14
  time? Great question. Let me think.
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  Last Thursday. Last
• 26:24
  Thursday, I did I did I did something something new. Yeah.
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  Do you wanna share? You wanna share. Yes. Absolutely.
• 26:32
  I'm a huge proponent of
• 26:37
  and I think there's there's great research coming out of many places at John Hopkins
• 26:40
  and and others as well of using the right the
• 26:44
  right psychedelic medicine in the right dose for the right
• 26:47
  intention and purpose. And I wanna be very clear about this right intention,
• 26:51
  purpose dose. I had the opportunity,
• 26:55
  last Thursday to try 1,
• 26:59
  psychedelic medicine that I had never tried before,
• 27:03
  in in, again, the right setting in in a heart heart opening,
• 27:07
  heart centered way in a in a in a in a mastermind,
• 27:11
  setting. And, Yeah. I did I was not expecting that.
• 27:15
  That was not on on agenda, so to speak, but it it was
• 27:19
  offered and and and and it made sense. So I I I tried it, and,
• 27:23
  yeah, it was it was fine. It was there was a little bit
• 27:26
  of a, a carry forward for a couple couple days, which was
• 27:30
  maybe not the best, but, totally open to open to trying. Because, again, I'm I'm
• 27:34
  a bit of a self experimenter, and I totally believe in the work you can
• 27:37
  do in p s, PTSD and and other things like that.
• 27:41
  So if these are things and, again, I don't I don't do that myself, obviously.
• 27:45
  But if I'm going to recommend that to a client,
• 27:50
  you know, with the right person and the right professional, etcetera, I wanna be able
• 27:54
  to share my experience. I don't like I'm not gonna test every single thing out
• 27:57
  there. But but, you know, I I I want I wanna be able to have
• 28:00
  that, experience that I can personal experience that I can relay with my
• 28:03
  clients if I feel that's gonna serve them, in the best way. So, yeah,
• 28:07
  that's that's something new that I tried. So that that really is something new.
• 28:11
  So thank you for sharing that with us. So,
• 28:14
  I just wanna make sure that everybody knows. I I I kinda
• 28:18
  hate to wind this up because I realized that we have ground that
• 28:22
  we've never explored. So we probably could go on
• 28:25
  talking for quite a while. But this is only a 30 minute
• 28:29
  show, and so I have a couple of things that I need to make sure
• 28:32
  that I say, and that is be sure you subscribe and share,
• 28:37
  and, you know, tell people about the podcast. I would love it. It's it's my
• 28:41
  way of trying to give back to the community and, you know,
• 28:44
  fueling your quest for growth and impact. And you can always,
• 28:48
  join me for the One Small Change podcast, every week, which comes
• 28:52
  out on Friday. So the last
• 28:56
  thing is if you had, you know, like, last words of
• 28:59
  wisdom to share with everybody, what would it be?
• 29:06
  I would say if you really
• 29:10
  take a moment and reflect upon yourself,
• 29:15
  you'll probably find that there's something that's you feel is missing
• 29:19
  or lacking, could be in your health, physical
• 29:23
  health, could be in your mental health, emotional health, whatever the case may
• 29:26
  be. Take one step. Take one small step.
• 29:30
  Doesn't matter what it is. Doesn't matter what it is. Take one positive step
• 29:35
  and try something out and just incrementally work on whatever your
• 29:39
  whatever is it is for you, and I think that's all. Don't don't
• 29:42
  grandeur of I need to lose a £100. Just lose 5.
• 29:47
  Or I need to run a marathon, get off the couch.
• 29:50
  What whatever whatever the the the the case is, for
• 29:54
  you, just take one small step, and I think that's those habits
• 29:58
  and those small steps build on each other. And I think then over the long
• 30:01
  term, where we are in our grander. So, yeah, just take
• 30:05
  one small step. I absolutely
• 30:09
  believe in that. You know, if you know, I often say
• 30:13
  if you keep doing what you're doing, you're gonna keep getting what you got. So,
• 30:18
  guys, this has been fantastic. I hope everybody got as
• 30:21
  much out of this as I did. And I want you to remember that change
• 30:25
  can be simple, but it isn't always easy. And it does require a
• 30:28
  certain amount of courage and resilience and a
• 30:32
  willing willingness I have lip lock today,
• 30:36
  and a willingness to step outside your comfort zone. So I hope you will
• 30:40
  join me again for one small change and see what innovative possibilities
• 30:44
  you can come up with. And until then, stay curious.
• 30:48
  This is Yvonne McCoy. Join us next week. Bye.
• 30:52
  Bye, everyone.