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Episode 288: The Kindred (SG-A 4.18 & 4.19) · Get Into Gate: A Stargate Podcast

• 0:25
  Speaker 1: Get into Gate. Episode two hundred and eighty eight took
• 0:30
  Speaker 1: in some Stargate Atlantis Mitch and Maddie yaol y'ao, and
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  Speaker 1: with a little guest this week as well, returning to
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  Speaker 1: the hot seat, Craig.
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  Speaker 2: What's doing my brother? Hey, what's going on?
• 0:43
  Speaker 1: Hello, buddy, welcome back.
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  Speaker 2: It's been a hot minute.
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  Speaker 1: It has been a little hot minute the tail end
• 0:48
  Speaker 1: of Atlantis. You've swept in through, I mean the week after.
• 0:52
  Speaker 1: I won't say, I mean Maddie and I did, but
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  Speaker 1: certainly I been the first timer lost my proverbial over
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  Speaker 1: midway last week. How good is it? Yeah? Maybe maybe
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  Speaker 1: not just a proverbial. Yeah, you would have come away
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  Speaker 1: sticky after that. Mate. Just just be lucky that you
• 1:09
  Speaker 1: went around for that one. But I mean we were
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  Speaker 1: I ironically we were recording in a bedroom. Yeah, yeah, things,
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  Speaker 1: it was appropriate. It was appropriate because I had the
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  Speaker 1: horn over midway. I was very excited that one. But
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  Speaker 1: we're back to talk about a two parter. Been a
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  Speaker 1: minute two parter as well. The Kindred. I kept writing
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  Speaker 1: down just Kindred, but it's the the Kindred. It seems
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  Speaker 1: an important detail to definitely include episodes what eighteen and
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  Speaker 1: nineteen of Season four of Atlantis.
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  Speaker 3: Like I thought this episode was called like Return of
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  Speaker 3: the Shoe Thief or something.
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  Speaker 2: Don't give it away, les, Let's.
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  Speaker 1: Get to that all right. Synopsis The Kindred Part one,
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  Speaker 1: as Taylor and Shepherd search for signs that Kanan is
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  Speaker 1: still alive and mysterious illness is traced to a human
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  Speaker 1: engineered protein found in the Wraiths food supply. Part two,
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  Speaker 1: a friend once believes dead returns to Atlantis. Meanwhile, Taylor,
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  Speaker 1: now captive herself, plots an escape for fellow Athosians who
• 2:15
  Speaker 1: are interned at a secret facility. I'm glad that that
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  Speaker 1: goes into that details probably get into who the writer
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  Speaker 1: and director of such episodes are. We obviously got to
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  Speaker 1: Alan mccarr and Martin Wood, and.
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  Speaker 2: That's the writer and director for Part two one. No
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  Speaker 2: one is John Paul, directed by Peter F.
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  Speaker 1: West West. That's right, and you I'd seen his name
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  Speaker 1: pop up somewhere. A great guy, love match.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, what do you think.
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  Speaker 1: Anyone who saw my little video that go out on
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  Speaker 1: I went out a Patreon sometime this week ahead of
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  Speaker 1: the episode release, would have heard me somewhat curse Maddie
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  Speaker 1: to do with the end of part one because.
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  Speaker 2: Oh well, well we by bit totles.
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  Speaker 1: I know, you know what that was like the first
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  Speaker 1: harth that I had of like, finally I get to
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  Speaker 1: use that again because you know, over the years, certainly
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  Speaker 1: affected Reese for many many seasons of this show before
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  Speaker 1: it affected me with Atlantis. But it was a case
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  Speaker 1: of not to spoil anything for Mitch, but and then
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  Speaker 1: it would be nothing but like insane spoilers.
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  Speaker 2: Rude, well d non factual.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly lovely rude doesn't mean it's false, alternative facts, alternative facts.
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  Speaker 1: And yet there have been a couple of examples. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: in a way, Midway was probably a good one. Last week.
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  Speaker 1: I had no idea when when when Til walked through
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  Speaker 1: that wormhole. Oh the grin, the grin, you've got a
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  Speaker 1: young kid, the craig, like just the joy you see
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  Speaker 1: in a kid's face. I was like that. I was
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  Speaker 1: a little kid who walked into a Toys r us
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  Speaker 1: and my mom and dad said, you can buy anything
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  Speaker 1: you want. That was what I was like, standing in
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  Speaker 1: my kitchen doing the dishes, seeing yeah, Yok walked through
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  Speaker 1: the gate.
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  Speaker 2: It was like from Jingle all the way when that
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  Speaker 2: kid sees his dad as Turboman.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I was Jake Lloyd before the trolls got to him.
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  Speaker 1: And and then this it wasn't so much the joy,
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  Speaker 1: it was the shock that just got me, like obviously bust.
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  Speaker 1: It was like it was all it was all set up.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm really just going to a particular moment
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  Speaker 1: of this episode to give my thoughts. But it's a
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  Speaker 1: gateway drug here.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, we asked what do you think?
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  Speaker 1: Thank you? Yeah, well, I mean this isn't well, I
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  Speaker 1: guess it is the biggest part of the two part. Really.
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  Speaker 2: It was in the like the last thirty seconds.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and and you know, obviously Taylor's not there anymore.
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  Speaker 1: And then they go back to Major Lawn Law and
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  Speaker 1: he's like what about that? And I'm like, no, she's
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  Speaker 1: not here. Obviously they were guarding something. I'm like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: where does the plot need us to go. We've got
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  Speaker 1: ten seconds. They busting the gates, the Peen nineties come down,
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  Speaker 1: and then it's just like him just getting up and
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, well, what what what? What?
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  Speaker 2: What?
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  Speaker 1: What? What? I had to like real, it's a great reveal.
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  Speaker 1: And I took straight to like the video. I just
• 5:00
  Speaker 1: I outed filming. My initial reaction before I even watched
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  Speaker 1: Part two, and I was just like, well done to Maddie,
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  Speaker 1: who did not, I mean, and Brendan, because obviously Brendan
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  Speaker 1: was still around when we were doing Carson's death Sunday,
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  Speaker 1: and there was no indication from either one of you
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  Speaker 1: that he returns for at least two episodes of this show.
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  Speaker 1: And I was just like, hey, credit credit to you guys.
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  Speaker 2: He's a clone.
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  Speaker 1: Sure, okay, well whatever. The actor's name is, Paul mc mcgillian, mcgilla,
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  Speaker 1: Cardy McGillick.
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  Speaker 2: I always forget David Hewlett's name. If you listened to
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  Speaker 2: meybe it was last week or something like that. I
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  Speaker 2: just kept saying McKay because I could not remember David.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well, I mean, it had me as I
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  Speaker 1: clicked play on Part two. Now, they're never going to
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  Speaker 1: do it, because as soon as you put someone in
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  Speaker 1: the opening titles that seems to insinuate they're going to
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  Speaker 1: be a recurring, if not main character. But obviously he
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  Speaker 1: always came before McKay and I always liked out was
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  Speaker 1: Paul mcgillian as Carson Beckett, and then it would have
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  Speaker 1: David Hewlett. As doctor McKay, and I'm like, has he
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  Speaker 1: not been around this franchise long enough to it first
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  Speaker 1: to put Doctor Rodney McKay or just drop the doctor
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  Speaker 1: and replace it with And I thought, do they shove
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  Speaker 1: him in one more time? Paul mcgillan before McKay, even
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  Speaker 1: though he's disappeared. But like that that really caught me
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  Speaker 1: off guard, and I'm like, is he it's not him?
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  Speaker 1: Surely it's not him. Has to be a clone. But
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  Speaker 1: where's cloning come into it? I don't know. And then
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  Speaker 1: you know, they sort of telegraphed, hey, oh his cells
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  Speaker 1: are a little bit funny. It's like, okay, so he's
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  Speaker 1: going to like become an old man, sooner die half true?
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, like you know, Michael's back. And unfortunately I
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  Speaker 1: try not to read the opening credits, and like Maddie
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  Speaker 1: will test to, I'm always doing other stuff when I'm
• 6:43
  Speaker 1: watching these episodes, so it's always good when I'm folding laundry,
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  Speaker 1: doing dishes. But unfortunately I look glance down comin and
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, well Michael's back. That's fine, that's fine.
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  Speaker 1: I think though I was I was blessed by how
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  Speaker 1: busy I was when I watched part one. I think
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  Speaker 1: I watched it in like three parts, and the first
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  Speaker 1: part was like five minutes, the next part was ten,
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  Speaker 1: and then the next part was the rest, and it
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  Speaker 1: was separated by like hours. So by the time I
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  Speaker 1: got around to the Michael reveal, I'd forgotten about seeing
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  Speaker 1: his name of the credits, and then when I got
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  Speaker 1: to that next chunk, I'd forgotten everything that had happened before.
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  Speaker 1: So when Beckett comes back, it was like a double
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  Speaker 1: surprise for some reason. And thank god they didn't you know,
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  Speaker 1: ruin that the credits, you know, special appearance by or
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  Speaker 1: something stupid on the credits.
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  Speaker 2: I think I may have spoken about this before, but
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  Speaker 2: one of the most famous ones where the audience was
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  Speaker 2: trolled was from Buffy, where there was an orange spoiler.
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  Speaker 2: For anybody who hasn't seen Buffy, but there is a
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  Speaker 2: long standing character who was on the show for years
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  Speaker 2: and years and years, was only ever credited as a
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  Speaker 2: guest star, guest Our, guest Our, guest Our, guest Our guest.
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  Speaker 2: I was in it for season. Then finally at the
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  Speaker 2: end of a certain season they bring it up. This
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  Speaker 2: character added to the credits killed in that episode.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yep, well is duels stay safe now though.
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  Speaker 1: That's why I started thing in part two where Beckett's
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  Speaker 1: back there and he's helping to do the tests and
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  Speaker 1: oh yeah, hang on, you're only here because he died. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you're here. Yeah.
• 8:08
  Speaker 2: Is it another Daniel situation? Yeah, Keller just got Jonas.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to send you away for all, bring you
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  Speaker 1: back with the weird haircut.
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  Speaker 2: There's there's I think there's an alternate universe where that
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  Speaker 2: could have happened, because apparently in the like the way
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  Speaker 2: they originally wrote the episode is the Beckett we saw
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  Speaker 2: die in Sunday. He was going to be the clone
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  Speaker 2: and this was going to be the original.
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  Speaker 1: I was honestly wondering whether they were going to do that.
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  Speaker 2: That was the original idea, But then they went, oh,
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  Speaker 2: we can't really sell the fact that Michael was able
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  Speaker 2: to clone something that well back then, like back at
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  Speaker 2: the start of season three or whatever it was. We
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  Speaker 2: can't really sell the fact that with the limited resource
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  Speaker 2: he would have had at that time, that he could
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  Speaker 2: make a perfect clone that would have gotten away Baller.
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  Speaker 2: So they went, no, we just have to make this
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  Speaker 2: on the clone.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, I then start thinking about you know,
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  Speaker 1: because whenever they bring back, you know, characters are acted
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  Speaker 1: into franchises and things, and like, at the moment, I'm
• 9:02
  Speaker 1: going to get my own. That's one for like a
• 9:04
  Speaker 1: Marvel reference. But you know, they've just started production on
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  Speaker 1: Doomsday and we know at least Robert Doney Junior is
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  Speaker 1: coming back. There's all the talk about Chris Evans, and
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  Speaker 1: you'll get people that absolutely live and breathe these movies,
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  Speaker 1: these franchises, the comics, whatever it might be, and a
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  Speaker 1: lot of them are like, does that ruin their goodbye?
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  Speaker 1: And I'm like, well, you know, I get it. Robert
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  Speaker 1: niel j is not playing the same character, So do
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  Speaker 1: we really look at it? But like, as far as
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  Speaker 1: an actor as a performer goes, do you kind of
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  Speaker 1: sully the great ending they get by bringing them back,
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  Speaker 1: just so that we get to have as a fan,
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  Speaker 1: do we want that actor back in the franchise? I
• 9:38
  Speaker 1: never wanted them to leave. Of course I do so.
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  Speaker 1: Beckett obviously probably less of an impact on Stargate than
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  Speaker 1: what Robert Donney juniors are on the MCU. But I
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  Speaker 1: started I never at all felt like, ah, are they
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  Speaker 1: bringing him back? Well, that sucks because he died and
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  Speaker 1: we had this sort of great goodbye and what a
• 9:54
  Speaker 1: cop out. I actually but even before they confirmed that
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  Speaker 1: he was a clone, I was thinking, well, he's not
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  Speaker 1: gonna Beckett. There's going to be something else, and I'm
• 10:02
  Speaker 1: actually not I don't think I'm that upset. If they
• 10:05
  Speaker 1: bring him back and I come in tonight and you go, hey,
• 10:07
  Speaker 1: spoiler alert, he's in it for the rest of the series.
• 10:10
  Speaker 2: I like, I would ever spoil any if you wouldn't.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think that I would have. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: that I would have been that upset by it because
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  Speaker 1: of how they set up his backstore. That he's been captured,
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  Speaker 1: like he said, for nearly two years. So it's not
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  Speaker 1: like they've just created him. They've found his blueprint and
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  Speaker 1: printed him, printed him in this episode and oh look
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  Speaker 1: you're back, brilliant, We'll keep you. It's that he's been there,
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  Speaker 1: even though for narratively we've just found out about it.
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  Speaker 1: I still didn't. I still don't think that I would
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  Speaker 1: have been upset if he would have been brought back
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  Speaker 1: as a full timer.
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  Speaker 2: The only thing that I kind of was a bit
• 10:41
  Speaker 2: roll my eyes at was I feel like the goodbye.
• 10:45
  Speaker 2: At the end of the two. Part of him going
• 10:47
  Speaker 2: back into the pod was a bit drawn out because
• 10:49
  Speaker 2: it's like we've literally seen you die, mate, which we've
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  Speaker 2: seen the real version of you die. The heartbreaking scene
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  Speaker 2: of McKay talking to like his imagineer version of you
• 11:00
  Speaker 2: on the pier was kind of like, we've we saw
• 11:03
  Speaker 2: the bagpipes and your coffin getting taken through. You're just
• 11:07
  Speaker 2: going into the pod for a sleep for a bit,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And and and we've already
• 11:12
  Speaker 2: seen the pod thing done better with O'Neill in Lost City,
• 11:15
  Speaker 2: when when we weren't sure what was going to happen,
• 11:17
  Speaker 2: I mean, we all knew it's like he's O'Neill, he's
• 11:19
  Speaker 2: coming back, whereas Yeah, So it was just that was
• 11:21
  Speaker 2: the part that let me down a little bit. But
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  Speaker 2: I think it was a really interesting way to bring
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  Speaker 2: Paul mcgillion back and just sort of do that little thing.
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  Speaker 2: A little unknown fact though the clone, his.
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  Speaker 3: Feet were actually too big, so he had to get
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  Speaker 3: a whole bunch of new shoes.
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  Speaker 2: I do there is a part I'd love if anyone's
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  Speaker 2: got any you know AI or or what do you
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  Speaker 2: call a photoshopability. It's like, I just wanted when we
• 11:46
  Speaker 2: when we when we pan around to see him in
• 11:48
  Speaker 2: the in the cell, I just want to be surrounded
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  Speaker 2: by shoes, imagine shoes and we baby turtles, just piles
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  Speaker 2: of the marine.
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  Speaker 1: He comes back and sees what keV has done to
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  Speaker 1: his lab about shoes.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he was wearing remember what was that TV show
• 12:01
  Speaker 2: Franklin with the turtle Turtle Jim just wearing a Franklin
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  Speaker 2: t shirt instead or something.
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  Speaker 3: Well, the real one was actually buried with all the shoes.
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  Speaker 3: So now you've got to go get them.
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  Speaker 2: That's it. That's it so much. Did you did you
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  Speaker 2: buy the fake funeral opening the sith.
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  Speaker 1: A little bit?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I actually did a little bit because it's I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I was a bit like, ah what, But also I
• 12:23
  Speaker 1: don't know this Kannan who keep going to call Canaan
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  Speaker 1: me too? Yeah, and I'm like, I don't know him.
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  Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, and I was. I was
• 12:29
  Speaker 1: fully prepared to come in because you know, we were
• 12:32
  Speaker 1: talking about it a couple of episodes ago about how
• 12:34
  Speaker 1: you know, as soon as Taylor revealed to everybody that
• 12:37
  Speaker 1: she was pregnant, the question second, oh, who's the father,
• 12:40
  Speaker 1: And you're like, why does it matter. She's a woman,
• 12:42
  Speaker 1: she could have a child. Yeah, like, well, sure, father
• 12:46
  Speaker 1: at least a conception plays a you know, a little
• 12:48
  Speaker 1: bit of a something of a role. So there is that,
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, we don't know this Blake,
• 12:53
  Speaker 1: don't know what he looks like, don't know whether we've
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  Speaker 1: ever like, you know, he's even been like someone in
• 12:57
  Speaker 1: the background. We go, hey, that was actually him, kind
• 12:59
  Speaker 1: of like we're doing Star Wars now. It's like, you know,
• 13:01
  Speaker 1: it's like, oh, there's that guys in the back of
• 13:04
  Speaker 1: that silhouette. Well that's who this is, and this this
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  Speaker 1: new movie twenty years on.
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  Speaker 2: Then he's dead.
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  Speaker 1: They're burning him and I'm like, oh, well, so, really
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  Speaker 1: like he was that unimportant?
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  Speaker 2: Did I miss an episode?
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  Speaker 1: I was a little bit worried, And then I thought, oh,
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  Speaker 1: he was clearly that unimportant that they could find him
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  Speaker 1: in between. And it's going to be more about Taylor's
• 13:26
  Speaker 1: reaction and what that means, who did it? And we're
• 13:29
  Speaker 1: just we're worth three episodes left. We obviously need to
• 13:31
  Speaker 1: start making up some ground, and it's going to be
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  Speaker 1: more about the rest of the Ethosians maybe they've found him,
• 13:36
  Speaker 1: and it's more about finding the rest of the people,
• 13:38
  Speaker 1: and we're going to get to what's what's what's Christopher
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  Speaker 1: Heidel's actual hauling, hauling. It's going to be more about
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  Speaker 1: finding hauling and co uh. And then all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 1: he starts moving and he's as he's burning. I'm like, oh, okay,
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  Speaker 1: But up until that moment, I thought that I really did.
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  Speaker 2: You say you're talking about that? You know, have we
• 13:55
  Speaker 2: seen him in the background and stuff like that, Yeah,
• 13:57
  Speaker 2: technically we kind of have, so is out. He actually
• 14:01
  Speaker 2: the guy that plays Kanan played a Taliban soldier in
• 14:05
  Speaker 2: season three's Phantoms, which is the one where they were
• 14:09
  Speaker 2: all like, uh, I think that might have been the
• 14:12
  Speaker 2: one with Beckett's shoes, the one that Brendan brought up
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  Speaker 2: where they were all like seeing weird different things. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and Shepherd thought that he was like remember he was
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  Speaker 2: like hunker down in the sand and it emptied a helicopter.
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  Speaker 2: He was fighting Canan at that point.
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  Speaker 1: Shit, okay, wow, Taylor.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then yeah, you mentioned hauling. I think it
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: was a it was a big move to like, in
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  Speaker 2: one two parter have both Hauling and Todd right in
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  Speaker 2: the same episode, because I so Hauling was in Part
• 14:44
  Speaker 2: one and Todd was in Part two or vice.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, whatever it was. That's what I thought too, because
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: as soon as I think did Hauling come into it,
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: must have been Part one. He came into it kind
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: of early, and I was like, oh.
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, once she's captured and she meets her people and
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: I was there and he's got the shaved head.
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I was waiting for Todd to come into it,
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: and I was like, this is going to be a
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: big episode for my doll, and then he wasn't. I was, ah,
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: you're getting for one, but you only get in for
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: one character.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he's no Jeffrey Coombs, so you know
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: Star Trek Star Trek would do that where they put
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: him in the same episode.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like that was unnecessary.
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: Absolutely not necessary. But do you know what I did
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: find out, Mitch, please let this be part of the
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: part that's one because he's also Forengi, which Jeffrey Kumbs played.
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: There's a guy that plays Quark's cousin cousin Gala. He's
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: a Frengi in Deep Space nine. He's in like two
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: or three episodes. I only found it the other day
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: it's Rafael from the Ninja Turtles movies. Same god, Okay, really,
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: Rafael from the Ninja Turtles is in Deep Space nine.
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: I about you with Ronan until last week. That was
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: me when I found out that that Rafael was in.
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: I don't know if I believe it was because no,
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: I just remember what I was like, That's why need
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: to replace my couch.
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: That's how excited I was. How good was.
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: That ninety one Ninja Turtles?
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: Made sure that my six year old watched that? Excellent?
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I still getting kids through this. We started, I'm like,
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: we're going to do superhero movies and we're going back,
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: maybe not to the beginning beginning, but we started with
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: seventy eight Superman, and I'm do I shoot ahead to
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: eighty nine Batman and go like Superman Batman, Superman, Batman?
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: Or do I just go through Superman and go through
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: the eighties?
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: My kid is absolutely spider Man and Batman, Matt.
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: My kids have seen the first two McGuire spider Man's
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: Spider Man's and they've seen the the Tom Holland ones.
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: Now seen them all.
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, good kid. I'm just worried my kids would forget stuff,
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: and the good part about when they watched Far from Home,
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: they haven't seen Endgame, haven't seen anything of them.
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: See you.
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: They kind of just like breeze straight over them. The
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: fact that mister Stark it's no longer a part of things.
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: So yeah, they'll be the love. Yeah, yeah, I can't
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: wait till they're broken a little bit from these movies.
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: Speaking of speaking of squishy though, Taylor's boobs were up
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: and out in this episode, and I don't know if
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: they were really showing up. They were like, well, she's
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: pregnant in real life, we're gonna make use of this,
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: and that those puppies were out like when they were
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: just walking to the.
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: Sound like every husband out there.
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: This, Yeah, Maddie's never had a pregnant missus No, but yeah,
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: I was just like, I was just like, I feel
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: like that they either didn't adjust any of her clothing.
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: They just made her squeeze into her non maternity clothes.
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: So they went, We're just gonna make these a little
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: bit more low cut and just squeeze them together a
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: little bit. And I was just like, holy cow, Rachel
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: was giving us the gift. Speaking of guess Mitch, what
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: did you think of Rodney's present for Taylor, for the baby.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: Oh holy shit, He's done some narcissistic shit. Oh yeah,
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: And it's like, oh, I really okay to see what
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: he puts together.
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: This what a nice thought.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: Hang on, it's your own voice some of my more
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: complicated and amazing theories and accomplishments. And I was like, holy.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: Shit, he truly means well he does.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: He does not have any awareness of what he is doing,
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: what he did in that moment, and I love that
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: he did it obviously. I mean there's gonna be there's
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: probably two percent there, but like for the majority, he's
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: doing it out of absolute love and selflessness like this.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: I would love to be able to give this the
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: child this Like they say music, but you know what's
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: better than music? Science. He's going to be born in Atlantis.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: Maybe we'll grow up here. We don't know what Taylor
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: is going to feel like, you know, after after things,
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: if she rescues Kannan and.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: I maybe been born four years ago, wouldn't even know
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: what electricity is.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: But that's true. So yeah, Now.
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: Do we think do we think Rodney already had these recordings?
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: He was just recording himself with some random like ranting. Absolutely,
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: and he went and he went, I'm going to repurpose
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: those and give them to Taylor. Or do you think
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: he went in recording them knowing he was.
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: How Taylor's fall asleep listening to music, Rodney falls asleepless
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: thing to.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: Yes, he probably tries to like think through things in
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: his sleep. It's he asks questions to himself, hoping that
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: maybe in his subconscious state he can work through the
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: problems while he's asleeps then he wakes up and has
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: the answer. So he's always working.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: He's laying there going this is so hot.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: He had to replace his catch.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, He's like, I don't I don't need Katie anymore.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh god, that poor girl. Imagine Okay, I'm just
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: gonna guess def.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: From what she got for their first anniversary was those recordings.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: I have to sleep with noise, Oh, like a white
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: noise like the fan. Yeah, it's something like that, Like Hello, Rodney,
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: it's Rodney, You're amazing, You're brilliant.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: Taylor's baby. Yeah, turns out it's kind of a mini
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: I worry where you were going to go with this?
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that it's gonna be the next stage.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the first the first time we're aware of that
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: two people who have the gift have have done a
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: little bit of selective breeding. Mission knows all about that.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: His his kvoodle poodle Kirk Grudle Grudle, Yeah, Grudle's just
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: had some selective breeding going on. Yeah, so who knows what?
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: Uh what's going I say, who knows because I don't
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: remember season five, so I don't remember.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: If the baby does that's interesting.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't remember the baby does it anything interesting.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: I don't think it creates any tornadoes or anything like
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: she who did.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: But we'll see.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: Oh I did forget too when we were talking about
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: uh Beckett and his weird beby totos Mitch, I mentioned
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: this to you back maybe in Spoils of War or
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: something like that. But this, if you go like this
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: is the you know, second last episode if you go
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: all the way back to disc two, so that's episodes five, six, seven,
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: and eight A boot scootin Baby. Yeah, there is a
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: special feature called the Doctor is In and it's a
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: whole bonus feature about Beckett returning.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I didn't think it would be from that
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: early because remember you saying at one point you listened
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: to the audio commentary, you were looking at special features.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: You're like, oh, they completely spoil what's coming up at
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: the end of the year, at the end of the season.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so in disc two, so when you're watching episodes five, six, seven,
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: and eight, there's a special feature in there that's like
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: Beckett's back, beck It's back, baby, would you do that?
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: And then in Spoils of War, which was episode eleven,
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: this is what they drop in the audio commentary.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: We were looking for an episode to come.
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: I need another episode to write after the mid season
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: two parter, and we knew at the time that we
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: were doing we were bringing back back at later in
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: the season as a clone, and so you know, we
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: needed we needed a setup cloning that was you know,
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: you couldn't just bring that in magically that the Raith
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: know how to clone, or that Michael knew how to clone.
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: So we needed an episode that set up cloning, but
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: at the same time revealed a little bit of the
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: backstory of how Race reproduced.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: Like we were talking about weeks ago, how you know
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: everything episode one through nine, one through ten was set
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: up for all my Sins Remembered. Then Spoils of War,
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: which is the one where Todd steals the ZZPM to
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: start cloning the scab faces. Was purely to set up
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: cloning so that they could bring back it back at
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: the end of the season. That's the only reason that
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: episode exists. Yeah. Wow, yeah, that's crazy.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, thank Christ. I don't pay much attention
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: when I put those discs in.
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: So you barely have enough time to watch the episodes themselves.
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: A little loone the special media.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, at least it's not a separate thing. At least
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: you're not pressing special features. You're just going to episode selections.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, and thank god Maddie does all the all
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: the hard work leading into the record so that he
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: gets all this audio. I was like, oh, I'll get
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: it the first time. I'll forget things that stand out
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: to me.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: The Yeah, that'd be equipment measured us getting reesed to
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: grab audio for those couple of seasons. That would just
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: be so mean. Of course, Daniel dies, Yeah, yeah, us,
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: I said, he test going, hey, Rys, can you describ audio?
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: At forty two minutes when Daniel dies, and he's like,
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: I haven't actually watched the episode. You're like, oh, that's awkward, Mitchie.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: You mentioned mister West, mister Peter f. Huest earlier, who
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: directed Part one last of twelve episodes. This is it.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: This is the last one that he does, only twelve. Yeah,
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: it must have been.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: It must have been spaced out there, because I feel
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: like he's been around for us too.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, and like, say so it's SG one in Atlantis.
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: He's only done twelve in total.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And it seems to be a little bit of
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: a running theme that maybe we'll talk about next week,
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: but I don't want to say anything else. Well that, yeah,
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: I thought that was quatish. I was like, Okay, I
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: think that might Maybe that is why I have issues
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: with season five because I feel like where we lose
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: a lot of a lot of things that we haven't
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: had Peter Delaweze do anything god since maybe season three
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: or something like that. Like I don't think he came
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: back for this entire season, lost my beloved Weir and yeah,
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: we just and then we lose some of these directors
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: and obviously, you know, there's no Brad on the show
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: this season, there's no Cooper because they're off doing Arch
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: Truth and continually. Yeah, so yeah, maybe that's just what
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: it is. I'm just used to a certain a certain
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: vibe and all the all the ogs are sort of
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: you know, moving away and not.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I wonder what that's like. I don't know if
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: you've seen any interviews over the years or anything. I
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: wonder what that was like, as like for for the performers,
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: the main the main starts like, hey, you've got a job.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: You know, you're Joe Flanagan, you know, and and and
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: you know you're Oh my god, Jason Momoa. How did
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: you forget that? So he's so convincing, I just like
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: forget him as a performer that they've got jobs. But like, okay,
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: we're well, she'd been around fraids and she's gone, you know,
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: and Beckett had already left. But it's slightly different, but still,
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: you know, gone all there. A lot of the creatives
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: are gone, they're off doing Okay, we're back to SG one,
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: so they went back to their X in a way,
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: but all this shit shit is is changing. And then yeah,
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: like okay, maybe they're not to know that, you know,
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: mister Howest is not going to be coming back. But
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: I wonder what that would feel like, because like in
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: any workplace, if you're there long enough and you see
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: people come, people go and oh no, no where We're
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: still fun. We're still powering on. I'm living, I'm working
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: a radio station. Like the turnaround of this joint. Oh
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: my god, read the Oh.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: You've been here ten years, sorry, today's your last day?
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: Well no, okay, you don't. We've actually already got you
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: stuff packed. It sounds we're going to be escorted.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: Actually already, we've already turned off your swipe card. Yeah,
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: it actually won't actually doors anymore.
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: It's the show where everybody comes to regain their career
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: and then they get confident and.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: They leave and then they're like, oh shit, I need
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: to come back.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: So yeah, just I mean, I'm probably looking at it
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: with a little bit of like hindsight and knowing that
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: like some creatives, well they didn't come back to it
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: or anything like that, but I wonder what they felt like, Well,
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: hang on, does everyone is this changing? Like are we safe?
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: Like we've got jobs right, we're signed up. Because this stage,
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: they're not knowing that season five is going to be
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: their last.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so and I can't And funnily enough, we'll talk
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: about it next week. But while they were filming the
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: season finale next week. They still hadn't actually received their
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: order for season five yet.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: Oh wow, wow wow wow wow Wow.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: Okay, but I do think I just mentioned Peter Delowiz.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: I think from memory and Jacob you may have to
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: fact check me on there. I think he does come
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: back for Universe and either does some writing or some
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: directing on Universe. Not sure. I'm not too sure, but
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: as far as Peter West is concerned, yeah, this is
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: it for I guess. I wonder if you know, given
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: that SG one had been there for ten years, and
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: I guess maybe once that show ended, I guess a
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: lot of the crew would have come over to Atlantis.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: But I guess someone like Peter Delowiz, who's not Canadian,
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: was like, Okay, well now it's my chance to you know,
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: back to the States and do work down there. Same
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: as what was the guy who started the show with
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: Brad what was his name? The guy that like left
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: the show after like season three because he wanted to
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: move back to l Ah. That's gonna bug me, Like
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: his name has been on the title for a thousand years.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: We're just all sitting here, like I'm just I'm literally
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: watching the credits and like, what is his name?
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: I can't remember Brad Right, and it was a weird
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: name to have your passkey, sir food.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: Right, So some behind the scenes, Maddie's just walking out
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: of the studio. He's we've had some Uber Eats ordered Craigs,
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: so Mattie's just went to get that. I mean, how
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: long does this take us to find out this name?
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: Because I mean we can sit here and just think
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: about it. But you're you're having a gurgle, so you're welcome, Holly.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: We're actually googling yep. Oh okay, yeah, okay, I'm just
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: going to go straight Google. I'm just gonna go who
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: created stargut s? He won no.
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: Where's the episodes?
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: Episode? God, here we go. I'm just gonna go the
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: first one.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: Because obviously it'll it'll give you know, Jonathan Glaisner. Yeah, Yeah.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: Target SG one was created by Brad Right and Jonathan Glaisner.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: It developed the t television series as a sequel to
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: the ninety four film Starget, with the intention of continuing
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: the story and exploring the universe established in the movie.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: It's got to be Him. That name was around for it.
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: For Greenberg, he was executive co executive producer. The show
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: runner was Jonathan Glaisner. Yeah, that's the one. Okay, that's
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: the one we're thinking. Yeah, so it was originally show
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: run by Brad Wright and Jonathan Glaistner.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: When Maddie gets back in, we'll go, dude, gunning, we
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: can't think about it. And then we'll just be like, oh, yeah,
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: oh you know what you should do? The other name.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: Tell him the other name that you just found. We
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: found it, Brad right and whatever. That guy's named Greenberg,
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: Michael Greenberg. Yeah, and I Maddie's like, oh yeah, yeah,
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: oh yeah, We're like, yeahah, we knew that.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: Now you're wrong. Hey, we could talk sportspad he's not.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh no, we were just sports. We just told
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: rugby league. That's that's two.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: Because there's two of you.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: We need, we need something of Ray Warren. That's too, buddy.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: Hey, fun fact, so where I grabbed the that's one.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: That's two.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: That's three. Audio that's from an episode of d Space
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: nine where Kira Naresi is pregnant and she's held captive
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: and she's pinned down to a table while she's pregnant,
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: wants to correct and that's Taylor in this episode.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: And then you said that was very similar to was
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: it last week's episode that was very similar a couple ago?
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: Maybe a couple ago.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: Last week was episode I'm gonna say episode eighty three,
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: episode two eighty three. I want to say a lot
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: of quarantines. It was. It was quarantine where she was
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: gonna We thought maybe she's gonna have the baby, because
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: that's what happens to every TV shows. Yeah, yes, yeah,
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: and even so, you know, but I feel like we're we're, we're, we're,
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: you know, nearing enough to the end of the podcast.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: We don't know that yet.
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: The only other things I had to bring up because
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: I get in trouble if I don't bring up the
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: the little bits of trivia. Hauling. This is the first
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: time we've seen him since the end of season one.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: Holy ship, are you joking?
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: The last time we saw Hauling was the Siege Part one.
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: I knew it had been a while, but I would
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: have I would have said no earlier than season two.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, right, so when they when they shipped off all
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: the Ethosians, Yeah, siege was happening. That's the last time
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: I saw Hauling.
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, you know, the composed, and the director
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: obviously wanted to make it a big deal because when
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: I was like Hauling, it was like the whole score.
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, And I was like, oh, that's Hauling's ring
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: or whatever and all that kind of stuff. Yeah, yeah,
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: I thought that was interesting. Carson or alternate Carson shouldn't
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: have actually known about the replicators because we didn't meet
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: the replicators. I was wondering that three episodes after he
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: was yeah and clone and all that kind of he
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: would have no knowledge of that.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I was wondering when they said the replicator and
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: I was waiting for him to be like, what do
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: you mean to replicate it? And I was just like,
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: oh no, maybe hang on because I can't remember how
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: late in the season his death was, but because it
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: was it was.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: Earlier late in season three was his death.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: But we still got the rep clators in season three.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: But yes, but but Michael abducted Carson at the start
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: of season three and cloned him. So that's when he
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: was cloned. Remember remember about the death Remember when all
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: the humans in the Bad Old Lady weirwigs. Yes, Yes,
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: that episode was the episode where that okay, because he
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: was cloned.
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, with the timeline. He goes, oh, I've been captured
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: for nearly two years, and like it's been a little
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: every year. You don't just round up from fourteen months ago,
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: it's been twenty four yeah, shout up.
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was three episodes after that episode was when
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: we met.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: That sucks. He should have known.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: I almost had a bit of audio.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: Of maybe Michael's been talking about it.
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe, Well I was going to go back and
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: I was going to go back to my screaming say
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: her name thing at a certain point when Beckett was like, oh,
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: I've always been I've been thinking about you and ruining
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: and the others, and I was like, say it. But
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: then he said, we have named later on.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: That's like the we're in here and oh, this is okay.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: So if the first part hurt, this part's also going
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: to hurt Elizabeth. I mean, just that alone, like we
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: thought you were dead, and then I'm thinking, hang on,
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: but what about family? And it was like eight seconds
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: before he goes, yeah, what about my mother? Did you
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: tell her I was dead? Yeah? We had to. Why
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: would you do that? I'm like, dude, you can't say
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: and I'm thinking, well, yeah, what do you do? And
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: I thought maybe very early on in that second episode,
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: like does he record a video tour or something? And
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: at the end he goes, hey, I've written this letter.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: I'm like, that's actually really nice because you didn't get
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: a goodbye. You don't know what maybe you would have said,
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: being you, having lived that extra six seven eight months
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: of being you, but knowing that your mother got a
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: phone call from someone in the military going accident on base. Ghastly, Yeah,
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: something happened.
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: I guarantee. I think Sam was very kind there. But
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: you know she read that letter. She would have had to.
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: She would have had to security purposes. Yeah, you would
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: have been like, I'm going to read that just to
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: make sure. He said he was careful, but she needs
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: to make sure she's doing her job. Absolutely, she absolutely likes.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: She got some microwave popcorn though, and she sat down
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: and she read the shit out of that.
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: Do you think he snuck into weirds old quarters later
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: and was like, were are the shoes?
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, is is Sam in those? Yeah? Sam?
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: Is Sam in Weirs old quarters? That would have been awkward.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: He's in there sniffing the wrong shoes or the right shoes.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: All of a sudden.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and the only thing I want to bring up
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: because I know that Brennan will probably be yelling at
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: his whatever device he's listening to right now if I
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: don't bring it up. But in our in our seasons
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: and seasons long struggle of alternate timelines versus alternate realities
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: and stuff like that, oh boy, just just to be
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: Brennan's voice while he's not here. I thought it's only
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: fetch shut up. I thought it's only fair to, you know,
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: give one for his side of the argument.
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: Brennan.
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so we've ruled out advanced robotics, and still these
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: are a half a dozen.
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: Possible other explanations like well like alternate timeline, parallel universe cloning,
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: and you'll take a pick.
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: So I blame Alon McCulloch because you know, I really
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: like how Jason mcmore has massive lines in this yeah,
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: like getting stabbed in the airs, but he spends like
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: two minutes rehearsing. He's like, yeah, I'm done.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: I swear it was this one. I feel like I
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: watched it recently, so it must have been that one.
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: And he actually said that he is all right, And
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: I wanted to like get that scene and just overlay
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: Appleman's all right, Justice.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: League and of like him surfing on a paradem and
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: it's like.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: Catching Owen Wilson in one of his first on screen performances,
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: going wow, and just being like, oh, that's the thing
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: that you eventually say. Yeah, not that Jason mcmo was
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: renowned for saying.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: All right, but you know I was infamous at this point.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: Well that in Justice Lea.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well it became like, you know, one of the
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: most memorable.
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: Did it on Stargate first?
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Stargate did it better? Better?
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: He was born to be Aquaman if you think about it.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: He started on Baker say that mate, he is, well yeah, sure,
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: started on Baywatch, then literally moved to a show called
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: Atlantic before becoming Aquaman. And now it's gonna be what
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: that's what it should have been.
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: Would have been amusing if they put him in the
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: old school Aquaman like.
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: In the kind of did in the second one. In
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: the second one, they gave him behind the gold the
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: gold on the green, but he certainly wasn't like riding
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: any seahorses.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: I mean, check out, I don't. The show's not out yet,
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: but it is coming out soon as it's Apple yet
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: Apple TV Plus, hitting cinemas, hitting your TV screens. August
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: once called Chief of War and one he says like
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: really like you know, really personal to him because it's
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: I don't know whether it's you know, when colonizers came
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: to Hawaii or anything like that, but like Louis, he's
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: getting around like in almost nothing. It's like loin cloth
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: sort of ship, like he is barely covered.
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: Double feature of that. And and the kids movie he
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: did with the Purple, the Purple Invisible Monster or whatever
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: it was. I thought you were.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: Look at how much he's not worrying. He's got it's
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: not the full like the bit that goes up his ass.
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: Like remember he wore that on like Jimmy Foul, Jimmy
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: Kimmel or something like that. He actually showed people like
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: how to wrap it because it's just like one piece
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: of cloth and you just wrap around and fold in.
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: It's a it's a traditional piece of cloth that he
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: he wears that around his house when he's when he's
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: just like hanging out on his compound. Yeah, that's what
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: he gets around in.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: Well, I've only seen the teaser trailer for it, and yeah,
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: it looks like it's going to be a a brutal
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: little series. So I'm i'm you know.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: What if is that the thing that he was in
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: that I was talking about with the.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's gonna was he in that? I saw that?
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: If John Krasinsky and Ryan Reynolds. Oh no, there was
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: the other one Visible Friends?
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there was another one with an invisible friend that
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: had Jason Momoray.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: Oh god, I'm sorry, Holly, I'm googling.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: I'm googling.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, the most recent thing I've seen him in
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: cinematically was was Minecraft, and I actually saw that.
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: I believe Last ten was the last one. I think
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: I saw it. I haven't seen that yet.
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: It's been two years. I've been waiting to flamboyant in that.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: I don't think i've seen Fast nine yet. So I
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: don't want to ruin it, you know, because obviously, you know,
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: the plot is very important in these films.
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: I've seen the clip of Fast X where I think
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: he like basically, you know, does the big jump into
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: a car, like you know, leaps over the door from
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: over the boot. He's like it's almost like a and
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: he jumps into it. And I'm like, oh, dude, that
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: doesn't seem right coming from your body shape, with your
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: long hair and your big aggressive beard. And he's just
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: very yeah, like they said, it's it's like he's watched
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: someone play the Joker and went, how would that look
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: like in an action film with with with with supercars
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: or something like that.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: Like, he's very he's very flamed Plumberland. I think he
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: is the imaginary friend.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: I could confidently say that I've not heard of It's
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: that's an online that's a Netflix thing.
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what a real
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: movie is on Netflix.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: Whoa buddy, Oh hey, hey, no, I have heard of it. Yeah,
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: he's got the big Yeah, I got.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: That confused with IF because that's got a purple monster,
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: and in this I think he's the purple monster. Yeah,
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: because he's got some mister mister Tompkins or whatever it
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: is horns on his head. M Yeah, big love, big
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: love to Jason, Mama love, come on the show te
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: what Yes, absolutely, we'll just keep asking.
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Also we can give you Cooper. Nah, We're gonna
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: hold out for Mama.
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: I mean the Cooper thing. You know, I've always laughed
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: at the idea that one day we will get it
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: we'll get to interview him and.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: I'm busy that day. Well, just one on one between
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: two ferns, see Cooper Brendan.
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, it wouldn't be scripted comedy. It'd just be
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: Brendan absolutely roasting him to his Actually, I.
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: Mean Brendan's not busy now, he's at home. So what
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: I think he should do is he now needs to
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: write a script where he plays both Cooper and Brendan Brennan.
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: Honestly, Brennan would nail that, wouldn't he. Brendan mate like
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: he in grade twelve. It's this carmel chat he has.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: He adopted the character of playing our year twelve coordinator
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: and the guy that you hooked up with on the
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: on the trip that was mister Redwoods. This talk at
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: mister Langer.
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: Oh so different, not the spear guy.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: Different guy, different guy. Oh, mister Langer Like.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: He looks like there was some spear touch.
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: He looks like if an accountant wanted to teach history,
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: Like he's a classic.
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: Isn't that the guy you school with. Isn't that one
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: the one guy that is your groomsman that you guys
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: always should on.
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: Oh no, Josh, yeah, we always say, Josh is not
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: an old man trapped in a young man's body, but mister.
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: Here is Mattie opening the food.
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: Brendan would play mister Langer and like just like he
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: would just do his voice, you know, like around the
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: grounds and stuff and tell people make sure you pick
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: up that rubbish and you know, I make sure that
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: they're this blah blah blah. People would laugh about it,
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: and then he started filming skits at home and you
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: know we would we would like, that's funny, that's funny.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: And in the end he would get up an assembly
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: and be mister Langer in front of like the entire grade.
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: And then I think at one stage you even got
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: a chance to do it in front of the entire
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: school and that teacher was there and Brendan was taking
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: the absolute piss out of him and like they had
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: a great relationship about it, but he was he was
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: having like emphasis.
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: On a relationship.
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, maybe.
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: I don't know, but nobody's seen that guy in twenty years.
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: Biggest honestly, if Brendan did it about Cooper, like there'd
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: be such an an added element of passion because it's
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: got to do a stargate. Holy shit, Brandon. Honestly, mate,
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: you know, I know you've got two teenage kids. Well
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: soon enough, I can bring the two Little game, an
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: sg Wilm game.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, yes, we'll put it on Patreon. Bright job,
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: here as done, gentlemen, tell that idea. It's worth a million,
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: and we'll put it on Patreons so you get paid
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: for it as well. And I guess I'm the creator.
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: You're in a room with Maddie. It's content creator, Craig.
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: What if he's triples Craig's content.
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: Creator, Mitchell.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: That's three. Get into the gate, Get into gate Stargate,
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: Send me some maass bread