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Patriots Unfiltered 4/29: NFL Draft Day 2 Analysis, New England Selects WR Tyquan Thornton · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 1: the twenty twenty two Patriots Unfiltered Draft Show. Welcome to
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  Speaker 1: the NFL Draft, all right, Welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It
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  Speaker 1: is the Draft Extravaganza day too, and the whole Patriots
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  Speaker 1: Unfiltered gang is here. We're on video, so you know,
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  Speaker 1: but we are. We are here until ten o'clock, but
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  Speaker 1: I mean, they don't want us, they don't want us
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  Speaker 1: taken away. Sure, and it's definitely true that the second
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  Speaker 1: hour of the draft on NFL Network and ESPN is
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  Speaker 1: the high you're rated. That's right after they leave us.
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  Speaker 1: But it's Mike do So, it's Samara Brown, it's Eric Scalavino,
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  Speaker 1: Paul Parolo, myself, Matt Morrel's in the booth. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if we can see him, he's I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if we want to. Yeah, he's raising the roof in there.
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  Speaker 1: He's Spider Man. So so let's get right into it. Um,
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  Speaker 1: the Patriots have a pick and round two, the twenty
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  Speaker 1: second pick, fifty fourth overall, and then they've got two
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  Speaker 1: picks in the third round, the twenty first pick in
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  Speaker 1: the third round, in the thirtieth pick in the third round. Freddy,
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  Speaker 1: you have a bold prediction that you told me about
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  Speaker 1: off air. Oh do you several? Several? I want you
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  Speaker 1: to share your bold prediction today. I said they're gonna
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  Speaker 1: probably trade up. I'm gonna move up. Yeah, all right,
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  Speaker 1: Freddy's calling it. I like it. Yeah, I like it too.
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  Speaker 1: I hope. So there's there's there's good players out there today. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: who we're moving up for. Well, let's you know, before
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  Speaker 1: we before we get into you know, uh, the second round,
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  Speaker 1: you know there's probably some unfinished business because you know,
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  Speaker 1: the Patriots picked in our show kind of you know,
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  Speaker 1: came to an end, or some would say a screeching halt.
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  Speaker 1: You were so upset you wouldn't even let the last
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  Speaker 1: picker off the board. But you know, we've had a
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  Speaker 1: night to think about it and really the whole day.
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  Speaker 1: Any any thoughts on the first round pick Cole Strange
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  Speaker 1: like the like the player, like the kid. Don't like
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  Speaker 1: the value of where they got him. And I mean
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  Speaker 1: I think that's uh, it was the I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to call it the nightmare, but I think we all
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  Speaker 1: were aware of guard. It was a significant need. But
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  Speaker 1: you know, personally it felt like you can get guards later. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: he wasn't. You know, I think his things have come out.
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  Speaker 1: It's not quite like he was like a day day
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  Speaker 1: three guy or anything, but you know, certainly went ahead
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  Speaker 1: of where most people expected him to. UM, but it
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  Speaker 1: was definitely on the radar. It was a Patriots type guy.
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  Speaker 1: UM got to meet him today. He came into the
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  Speaker 1: to the building and you know, was presented with the
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  Speaker 1: jersey down on the stadium, you know, out on the
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  Speaker 1: field with the crafts and you know, it seems like
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  Speaker 1: a good kid, good football player. You know. I understand
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  Speaker 1: though a lot of people are a little upset, and
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I I'll lead the way with I think
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  Speaker 1: they need to do something on defense tonight. I really
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  Speaker 1: think if we if we come out of here or
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  Speaker 1: not feeling like we got a defensive player that has
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  Speaker 1: some promise and can maybe bring something additional to the table.
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  Speaker 1: It's it's going to be more disappointing. So I'm optimistic
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  Speaker 1: that they're gonna make some moose tonight and get some
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  Speaker 1: players to round out around him tomorrow. You had a
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  Speaker 1: chance to sit with him and do an interview, which
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  Speaker 1: I saw a good job, by the way, thank you.
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  Speaker 1: But he seemed like a really nice guy. Yeah, he
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  Speaker 1: seemed like a really nice guy. And to Mike's point,
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  Speaker 1: I'm really optimistic, especially after sitting down and having a
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  Speaker 1: conversation with him. I think that the Patriots with that
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  Speaker 1: pick yesterday, I know that it was a bit early
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  Speaker 1: for some people's liking, but I think that they have
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  Speaker 1: shown it a priority to protect their quarterback of the
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  Speaker 1: president in the future, and that's Mac Jones. And so
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  Speaker 1: I think that looking at some of the stats on
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  Speaker 1: him last night when I was when I was preparing
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  Speaker 1: for the interview, once sack over the past four years,
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  Speaker 1: that's incredible. I mean, I'm really looking forward to that
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  Speaker 1: guy protecting Mac Jones. Um. Obviously, we'll hear more of
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  Speaker 1: his dinner with mac Jones tonight, which should be interesting. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we can't divulge what they're calling. He was about to
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  Speaker 1: divulge it, and they're like, don't say, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to place. I think it's called yea, they're
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  Speaker 1: going out tonight. I can't. I can't disclose that he
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  Speaker 1: likes seafood everybody. So we'll hopefully hear his his first
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  Speaker 1: lobster role maybe, I think. But you know, I love
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  Speaker 1: the idea that Mac is right away, let's go out
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  Speaker 1: to eat. You know, that's more a Mac thing to
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  Speaker 1: me than a coal thing. But I like that Max
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  Speaker 1: is like I want to get to know you right away. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's good. And he definitely seems like a do your
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  Speaker 1: job type of Oh, I mean, perfect thing. He's a grinder.
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  Speaker 1: He's a grinder. It's all about football. Um. All the
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  Speaker 1: right answers, yes, And I don't think they were given
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  Speaker 1: to him. I think these were genuine answers that he had,
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  Speaker 1: you know, like like I think one of the questions
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  Speaker 1: you had was like, you know, was it nerve packing
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  Speaker 1: this whole you know, last couple of months, And he's like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I got to talk to like gms and
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  Speaker 1: head coaches and football scouts. He's like it was kind
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  Speaker 1: of cool. Yeah, you know, like I wasn't nervous, it
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  Speaker 1: was kind of cool. It's like a dream to be
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  Speaker 1: able to do this. Yeah, I feel bad for players
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  Speaker 1: in his situation where everybody's so disappointed because he plays
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  Speaker 1: guard and he was taken higher than he probably should
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  Speaker 1: have been, where he's probably a great young man and
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  Speaker 1: you know, excited to be here, as he said a
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  Speaker 1: bunch of times last night and again today, and he's
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  Speaker 1: probably gonna be an immediate starter given the need that
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  Speaker 1: they have, and he'll probably end up being a solid player.
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  Speaker 1: It you know, you feel bad that, Like if you're
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  Speaker 1: him and you're reading any of your press clippings today,
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  Speaker 1: you're like, wow, everybody just is down on me, you know,
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  Speaker 1: like it's it's sad that he has to have that
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  Speaker 1: sort of entree into his new his new line of work.
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  Speaker 1: But but it's understandable because you know, you look at you,
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  Speaker 1: you mean, you look at where so much any people
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  Speaker 1: expected him to go. And I think the Rams were
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  Speaker 1: leading the charge with that last night. Um and Bill
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  Speaker 1: kind of had to make a point last night of saying,
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  Speaker 1: you know, well, we picked him because we're pretty sure
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  Speaker 1: he wasn't gonna be there the next time we were
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  Speaker 1: we were up, and like he usually doesn't say that
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  Speaker 1: kind of thing. Yeah, I mean, I don't know, but
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  Speaker 1: it's a little it was. But think about anything rather
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  Speaker 1: than sports. You're going for a job and you're going
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  Speaker 1: you you know you're going. You went to this small
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  Speaker 1: school and going up against these Ivy league people and
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  Speaker 1: they end up picking you for the job. And on
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  Speaker 1: day one you hear all the people in the wards.
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  Speaker 1: I see he was. They reached for him. Yeah, you
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  Speaker 1: know he's not gonna make it, and that's how you
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  Speaker 1: start your I know, yeah, I feel I feel bad
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  Speaker 1: for him in that way, but you know not his
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  Speaker 1: answer last night though, to that question that someone asked, like,
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  Speaker 1: how do you feel knowing that you know some people
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  Speaker 1: thought you were going to go tomorrow? And he said,
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  Speaker 1: I would have had the same chip on my shoulder
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  Speaker 1: no matter where I was picked. And I thought that
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  Speaker 1: that was a pretty solid answer. So even if he
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  Speaker 1: was picked later, he said he would still even if
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  Speaker 1: you were first overall, Really, that's what I would have.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on in the draft right now.
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  Speaker 1: It looks like they're stringing somebody up. It's the only sacrifice.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's Baker Mayfield them dangle out there. Oh literally. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so listen, you know, you come up with your theories
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  Speaker 1: on what happened, and my theory is, you know, uneducated.
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  Speaker 1: I don't have any inside sources. But I think at
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  Speaker 1: twenty one they said, there's no one with a first
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  Speaker 1: round grade, let's trade down. They traded, They had a partner,
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  Speaker 1: Kansas City. They trade down to twenty nine. I think
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  Speaker 1: they got to twenty nine. Nothing's changed. If no one
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  Speaker 1: had a first round grade at twenty one. No one
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  Speaker 1: had a first round grade at twenty nine, including Cole Strange, right,
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  Speaker 1: including Cold Strange. But they didn't they weren't able to
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  Speaker 1: move out again, and they were stuck making the pick.
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  Speaker 1: And I think that they said, Okay, let's let's take
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  Speaker 1: the biggest need that we have where one guy can
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  Speaker 1: feel that need, and we like this guy we know,
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  Speaker 1: and let's let's take him. Yeah, you know, I don't
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  Speaker 1: think it was like, oh my god, I can't believe
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  Speaker 1: Cole Strange is still there, or and I you know,
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  Speaker 1: I know Bill said that they didn't think you'd be
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  Speaker 1: there for long. That's a relative answer. Yeah, like, what
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  Speaker 1: is long? You know? So I don't. I don't. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not buying that either. I just think it was like
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  Speaker 1: for them, we have to make a pick. We have
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  Speaker 1: no other choice. For them, it was low risk. We
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  Speaker 1: know this guy loves football, he's gonna be coachable. Let's
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  Speaker 1: just take the guy. Let's just take them now. I mean, okay,
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  Speaker 1: so let's say today they get a receiver, a cornerback,
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  Speaker 1: you know, some immediate help on defense to go along
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  Speaker 1: with the you know, projected starting guard here. You're gonna
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  Speaker 1: feel better about there first two days because like, let's
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  Speaker 1: let's like if they had taken the corner Paul, won't
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  Speaker 1: I mean today is not going to have any effect
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  Speaker 1: on Cole Strange in my mind at all. But it
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  Speaker 1: might have an effect of overall draft. Correct, Yeah, yeah might.
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  Speaker 1: It won't have any It won't make me feel better
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  Speaker 1: about the pick of Cole Strange. So eric Kee's saying,
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  Speaker 1: don't judge book by the cover. No, what I'm saying
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  Speaker 1: is like, if they had taken the cornerback last night
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  Speaker 1: or the receiver last night, and then gotten the receiver
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  Speaker 1: and Cole Strange today, right, they'd still have those three players, right,
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  Speaker 1: Just in a different order, Like would you would you
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  Speaker 1: have felt better if they had taken the corner back.
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  Speaker 1: You're going to tell me the same three players. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: then i'd be I'd feel better about it. But the
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  Speaker 1: players that I wanted are gone, so that's impossible. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: like that's the things. They could get a cornerback, but
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  Speaker 1: it ain't the cornerback I wanted. See, that's the thing.
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  Speaker 1: It's or you know whatever Jermaine Johnson is really Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I was with Tamara once. Once Jermaine Johnson started falling
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  Speaker 1: the way Tom predicted at the start of the draft,
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  Speaker 1: I sort of wrapped myself around that. I like, I was,
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  Speaker 1: we could get an edge guy, could be but like
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  Speaker 1: an impact. If let's just say they were able to
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  Speaker 1: get Booth or Pickens in round two, I don't feel great.
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  Speaker 1: I mean if they had pick that one of those
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  Speaker 1: guys in round one and picked strange today, but you're
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  Speaker 1: still getting the same place. But I can understand the
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  Speaker 1: people who say, yeah, okay, that's fine, but there were
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  Speaker 1: guys that now you passed up before you got to
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  Speaker 1: the second round that now you could have had. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, two years from now, you know, we
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  Speaker 1: don't want this to be the situation where we took
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  Speaker 1: Nikil Harry and we passed up all these other guys
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  Speaker 1: that we could have had that were there. Yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 1: for me, it was McDuffie. I mean, I thought throughout
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  Speaker 1: the process he was one of the best fits of
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  Speaker 1: just you know, a guy who and like Cole Strange
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  Speaker 1: for his you know, for what he has checked a
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  Speaker 1: lot of boxes as being a Patriots type guy. And
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  Speaker 1: I thought mcduffey was that guy. And I thought he
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  Speaker 1: was kind of the perfect intersection of available right at
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  Speaker 1: the round where they were picking. You know, a versatile
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  Speaker 1: secondary cornerback can play a bunch of places, smart, physical,
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  Speaker 1: maybe not the biggest guy, but but plays the way
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  Speaker 1: they like, and so he's the one that I'll probably
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  Speaker 1: have my on. I never got two attached to Jermain
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  Speaker 1: Johnson until last night when he started the name coming
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  Speaker 1: up right right. But but I mean, but for the
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  Speaker 1: right reason. I mean, I think he was, you know,
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  Speaker 1: a good player. And I mean I said the last
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  Speaker 1: few weeks I felt like edges as a significant need
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  Speaker 1: it is, and I think he was a player that
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  Speaker 1: could help. But let's go back to the position of guard.
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  Speaker 1: They don't have one, they don't have a starting guard
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  Speaker 1: on or they didn't have a starting guard on this team.
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  Speaker 1: So what about the the idea that we have to
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  Speaker 1: take a guard at some point we like this guy,
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  Speaker 1: there's no guarantee he's gonna be there in the second
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  Speaker 1: round when we're picking one, let's just take well, you know,
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  Speaker 1: let's let's just take him. Let's get let's get that
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  Speaker 1: need taken care of now. And I would have been
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  Speaker 1: able to say, like, I would have been okay with
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  Speaker 1: that at twenty one if it was Kenyan Green, was
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  Speaker 1: Ian Johnson? Johnson, Yeah, like one of those two guys.
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  Speaker 1: And again, I don't hate the trade. I said this
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  Speaker 1: last night. I like the trade in a vacuum. I
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  Speaker 1: don't hate. I What I am thinking that they're going
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  Speaker 1: to regret down the road is the four or five
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  Speaker 1: players that were taken between twenty one and twenty nine
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  Speaker 1: that I think there's a good chance that some of
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  Speaker 1: those guys can play. And I think Mike hit on McDuffie,
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  Speaker 1: I will tell you one guy. If they could come
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  Speaker 1: away with Kyler Gordon today, who is McDuffie's teammate at Washington,
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  Speaker 1: I'd feel a little better because I think he can
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  Speaker 1: play too, and I think he has a lot of
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  Speaker 1: those Patriots traits that Mike is talking about. Booth is
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  Speaker 1: a guy that we talked about a little bit and
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  Speaker 1: there's been a lot of information about him as to
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  Speaker 1: why he's still available medical wise, So I'm fine with
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  Speaker 1: that if they didn't like the medicals and they have
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  Speaker 1: him off their board or something like that. Same thing
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  Speaker 1: with Kobe. Kobe Dean has a a litney of injury,
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  Speaker 1: doesn't How does that just come out? I mean, is
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  Speaker 1: that just coming out now or are we just being
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  Speaker 1: becoming aware of that? And I think that Dean's injuries
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  Speaker 1: mostly were in the past in college. But the knee
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  Speaker 1: thing would worry me. Like if there's a lot of
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  Speaker 1: wear and tear out a guy who's he's a little guy.
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  Speaker 1: He's got so that's gonna deteriorate and now he doesn't
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  Speaker 1: have any bulk to fall back on. Didn't you also
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  Speaker 1: have the other thing? Yeah, that's a temporary injury. You
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  Speaker 1: get that fixed and it's fixed. You know, like where
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  Speaker 1: tearing the knee like that ain't ever getting better. A
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  Speaker 1: tackler with a peck injury. To me, that seems problematic. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but I don't know. But you get surgery and it's
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  Speaker 1: fixed like wearing tearing the knee, you can't get surgery.
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  Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. I'm probably spending his roo gear
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  Speaker 1: with that carness around. It's not it's gonna be pleasant
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  Speaker 1: for it's not gonna not gonna be great. I have
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  Speaker 1: a question that it also came up yesterday too. It
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  Speaker 1: so with these picks tonight, Paul, would it make you
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  Speaker 1: feel a little bit better to double dip wide receiver
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  Speaker 1: or double dip today for the defense and get a
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  Speaker 1: quarterback and maybe two edges or two cornerbacks. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: all defense today, or would you get at least Kimmy, Kimmy.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna jump in on. While Paul is looking through
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  Speaker 1: his notes, I was saying, give me a defensive end,
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  Speaker 1: a cornerback, and a wide receiver. That one of the
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  Speaker 1: three positions that don't double dip today. I'm starting. You know, Ojabo,
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  Speaker 1: you know who probably isn't going to give you much,
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  Speaker 1: if anything, this year. He tore his achilles at his
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  Speaker 1: pro day, so many injuries. There's there's some value there
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  Speaker 1: if you could get him in the third. You know,
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  Speaker 1: in the third round or something like that. Now, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know how long he's gonna still be on the board.
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  Speaker 1: I guess Tampas pick is in. We'll see what see
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  Speaker 1: what they Yeah, I'm same question for me. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: gotta we gotta go defense, defense defense for me. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I was like that before, you know, even before yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: I want a defense okay. Yeah, I'm okay with you know,
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  Speaker 1: waiting until the fourth round to get a wide receiver. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: or if you get Magie and then two guys on defense, okay,
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  Speaker 1: but I want the majority of the players on defense. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't want Maggie so at all. No Christian
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  Speaker 1: Watson that would take. But even if in the fourth
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  Speaker 1: round or something. Yeah, well that's different films. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 1: that's why I think he'll be a third round pick.
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  Speaker 1: But I'll take him, you know, maybe down there. But
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  Speaker 1: I don't love the player. Yeah, Like Jamison Williams to me,
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  Speaker 1: was the guy. Yeah that oh yeah offense, the whole
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  Speaker 1: Alabama thing connection to me is overrated. Yeah. Yeah. So
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  Speaker 1: I just a quick comment about Logan Hall, who apparently
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  Speaker 1: he's going to the Buccaneers right now. I mean that
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  Speaker 1: would have been a guy that I that I that
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  Speaker 1: I loved for that defensive end edge kind of role.
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  Speaker 1: Um kind of reminded me of a mix of Lawrence Guy,
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  Speaker 1: Richard Seymour Long not you know, twenty two NFL Draft,
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  Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers. So Lake Logan Hallen, Yeah, play all
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  Speaker 1: over the place. Long. I mean, they could have done
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  Speaker 1: a lot with him. Um, but he's one of those
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: another late riser kind of sneak in here. They late
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: word was, oh, he could get into the first round
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: obviously one pick away, but he would have been He
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: was my sleeper pick in our in our final thing
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: that we wrote for the Patriots. So he's going in
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: the neighborhood. And when they picked a guy would have
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: liked today. So the Packers just moved up into the spot.
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: So they gotta take a wide receiver, right, Aaron Rodgers
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: will riot if they don't pick a wide receiver. Huh,
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: He's gonna But to Paul's point, I hope they don't
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: pick Christian Watson, Um, but sky Moore is still available.
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: Guy more Pierce. Didn't you mentioned Pierce a lot yesterday too?
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: I did, Alec Pierce, Yeah, he likes a lot of guys.
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: I can't play. I don't think he should be taken
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: this high. At George Pickens, I do like, I do
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: like Pickens, but you know, maybe Pickens over Watson. Sure
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: Pickens are slim at this point. Didn't you get it
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: out of your system? The strange pick I thought would
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: would fulfill his pun fantasies for I'm a football puned.
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: Hopefully we got the strange puns out of the way,
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: I mean every single So you don't like Watson tomorrow?
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: I do? I do. I think, Oh that was great.
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: I think for his size, he's great speed, and so
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be hard for people to cover him,
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: and so I am a huge fan of him. Um
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: he's also if we're keeping down this road of small school, yeah,
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: he's another small school guy North Dakota State. Um, so
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: I think that he would be a great fit here, honestly,
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: So to pick his in Yeah, and and there is
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: Christian I take back everything I just said. Wow, Yeah,
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: he's he's a good one. I mean he just has
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: a small school but has all the intangibles and the measurables.
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: You know, if he can step up to the pro game,
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: I think he has number one receiver potential, and I
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: mean playing with Aaron Rodgers, who you know, seems to
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: be able to take receivers in and make them work
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: pretty well. I think that's a I mean, it's a
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: slam dunk pick for for the Packers. Keep Aaron Rodgers
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: happy you lost Avante Adams. Um, he could get them
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: a real number one threat. And that's why I want
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: him for the Patriots, a Day two guy who could
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: potentially emerge into a real number one with size and
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: speed and everything else. What about another small school guy
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: from South Alabama, Jalen Talbert, Yeah, I think I know
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: that familiar with him. I don't really know he's he's
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: pretty highly ran. Yeah, he's another small school prospect. But
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: I think again, um somewhere to Cole at the Senior Bowl,
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: he was able to show that he can compete with, um,
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: you know, the bigger school guys, and so I think
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: that he could be another sleeper. Yeah, guests. So to
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: speak out of a small school senior competitive is interesting
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: in that it's not the game, it's the practices, you know,
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: because they can match these guys up against guys who
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: because Cole Strange was good in the practices and bad
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: at the game. I'll be quiet, but I got a
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: guy like Jalen. Can I just say one thing. I'm
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: sorry to interrupt. Fred's right, it's about the Senior week
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: is about the right. He's a thousand because I know,
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: but they can match guys up like a guy from
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: a small school saying, Okay, how's he gonna do against this? Yeah,
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: from a bigger school. And and and you know famously
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: Sebastian Volmer, that's kind of where he popped. Yeah, I
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: watched I watched some of Cole Strange at the Senior
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: Bowl practices today. Uh, going up against Travis Jones, who's
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: probably gonna go very soon, but yukon big defensive tackle.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: And I mean Strange played center pretty much the whole
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: time he was at the Senior Bowl. So he held
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: his own, he held his own against him. And that's
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: that's a big boy. Yeah, And I think that Jalen,
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: for example, select Christian Watson law receiver, North Dakota State,
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Bay. Okay. So Jayleen, for example, he
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: had back to back a thousand yards seasons and you
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: look at that, You're like, yeah, but who to South
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: Alabama play? I know, but production is production. Yeah, you know,
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: so if he didn't have those, then it'd be more
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: of a but you know commentary on you. Yeah. And
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: then he went to Senior Bowl and I think that
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: he was just as good there with some of the
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: best talent. Yeah. They always like to say about the
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: small school kids, you better be dominated at your level, right,
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: you know, if they don't bite when they're puppies, they
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: won't bite when they're dogs. And you're gonna make fun
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: of me for this, but because I'm not saying it
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: because of Cole Strange honestly, but I'd be more willing
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: to take a flyer on an athlete at a small
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: school because I think that athletics that translates like sometimes
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: the big guys, And the worry for me for a
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: guy like like Cole Strange is that he's smacking around
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: guys that are not anywhere near as big as he is. Yeah,
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: at that level. Now, I did read several places that
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: corroborated with Bill said. Last night he had one of
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: his best games against Kentucky. So that's a good sign.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: You know, he stepped up against an SEC team and
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: he played well. Yep, So that's a that's a good
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: sign conversely, you know, completely different guy here. But Malik
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: Willis is a guy who plays quarterback at Liberty. He
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: had a chance to play Old Miss and did not
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: perform well, right, And that's a big red flag to me. Yeah,
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: I mean it's it's unfair for those guys because they
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: don't get a lot of chances to play against those teams.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: But you have to show that you can compete. Jets
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: are coming up here, um, but I watched the Jets
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: have traded up. But digging on strange a little bit today,
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: he he talked about that Kentucky game and he knew
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: going in that this is where I have to show
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: up and if I don't show up, it's gonna say
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: a lot. And if I do show up, it's gonna
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: say a lot as well. So he was well aware
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: of that. And a guy, a guy that I really like,
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: um from them is is Pascal who's another versatile front
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: kind of guy, almost a poor man's trivon Walker. Um
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: but he but you know, he held his own against
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: that guy, and he should probably go here in the
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: second round as well. Yeah. The more I think about
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: the strange pick, I I think back to like the
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: last two solid, like really high quality guards they had
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: were Joe Tooney, Shack Mason, third round, fourth round, high
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: caliber starting guards that were picked in the third and
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: fourth round. So this guy better be Logan Mankins like
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: perennial pro bowler. I mean, it's high expectations when you're
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: a first round pick. But at that position especially, there's
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: nobody in front of him. What is he not gonna
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: come in? Yeah and beat up Ferren's all right, he's
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: gonna start, yeah, but I mean but I mean, not
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: just start, but he better be really good. Yea for
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: a long time to justify it. How well, how did
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: you guys the Titans? The Tennessee Titans select Roy that's
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: a good one too, And that's a he's a good
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: Patriot kind of fit. Same thing. It's that, you know,
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: next level cornerbacks. But plenty of Patriots guys on him.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: McQuary off the board. So now the Jets are on
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: the clock. So the Jets traded with the Giants. Huh yeah,
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: who could they be going up to get? I mean
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: they're being aggressive though, got to give him credit aggressive
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: and the Lions and the Lions both of them. Yeah, yeah,
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: but the Jets have had good drafts before. So I
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: was gonna ask you, guys, what was your opinion or
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: impression of of Logan Mankins when he came in as
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: a rookie in training camp when you first kind of
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: got to look at I thought he was going to
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: be a tackle, because that's what he was at Fresno State.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: And Bill had always said, you know, we wouldn't take
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: a guard in the first round. So I was really
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: surprised that he turned into a guard. But he was
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: a dominant guard from day one. But and and and
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: I just remember or from the start, I think the
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: thing on Logan Mankins was he's gonna be good, Like
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: there was no question I thought when they picked. And
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: that was also exactly where he was supposed to get picked, right.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: He was an end of the first round guy. Yeah,
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: that's another like miss nomer with some of these guys.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: His people say, well, Bill does this all the time,
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: and he's always right. No, No, he doesn't do it
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: like people have this notion that mccordy wasn't supposed to
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: be a first round pick. He absolutely was the und
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: he was an end of the first early second round projection. Yeah,
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: and that's where he went and everybody's like, oh, another
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: diamond in the rough for Bill from Rutger, Like, no
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: one saw this one coming. It's not it's not what happened. Um.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: I think what happened with mccordy is somebody said, oh,
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: he's a four down player and everybody said, oh, we
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: got a special team or in the first round. Ye, no,
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: he plays on four downs, right, Yeah, that's one of
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: the rare times I remember Chalise coming at me. I
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: never really got into that. Those on a twisting matches
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: if you will, um, but yeah, that was that was
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: one like that fort front know, how do you feel
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: about him dropping a special teamer in the first round?
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: That was like, how she was? You clap back at her?
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: I did. I think it did a little bit, But respectfully,
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: I never was. I mean some of the some of
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: the stuff Tater today, I'm like, dude, you guys got
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: a log off and not take this so seriously. Like
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: people living in pis like, come on, it's football. There's
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: a lot going on in the world, right round all right,
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: there's a lot going on in the world. Now. From
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: the guy who we had a blog, a fun little hobby.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: It was a tastefully done Hobby five five Pats five
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: hundred is the A Sticket hot line. Web radio at
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: Patriots dot com is the email address in case you
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: want to participate in the show. We've got a couple
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: of callers hanging on. Let's go to Michael and Sacramento.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: You know, Sacramento, that's up north. It's kind of the capital. Backdown.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: What's up, Mike, Hey, ladies, it's Element, Children of a
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: Children of all ages. I'm enjoying your show. By the way,
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: I'm a former Ukrainian, so forgive my accent. I don't know. Yeah,
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: So I'm gonna talk politics, but not the same politics
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: that you don't have in mind. I want to talk
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: about football politics a little bit. Um. You know, I've
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: I've watched Patriots draft for twenty plus years as Bill
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: has been there. And one thing, a lot of people
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: came and go the people who who are assisting him
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: with a draft. But that's a fact. But the draft
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: strategy seems to be the same. It seems like they're
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: always picking the players that are consistent with a particular strategy.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: To me, and that's a question, I'm not making a
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: statement to me that means that Bill is the ultimate
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: decider who gets picked. So regardless who brings information, he
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: might agreeing him a disagree, but he's the one who
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: makes the calls. Would you agree with that? Yeah, yeah,
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: we would, ye, wholehearted. Okay. So, and so there's nobody
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: else who can really say that. You know, Bill, you
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: know this is not the guy or this is the
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: concern And oh no, I'm not saying that. There can
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: be disagreements, and Bill's mind can be changed, but the
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: end of the day, it's his decision, his decision. Yep,
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: that's I always want. And so this is bringing me
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: to the question, is that again I'm observing the historical record.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: I have noticed that he has been very good at
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: finding value. Value in rounds four to seven, even undrafted.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: I'm talking to speaking value. Yeah, when it comes to
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: rounds one to two, maybe three in a hidden miss.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: That's my observation, subjective observation. Okay. Now, another thing that
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: I take as effect. He calls draft crap shoot. And
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: what's interesting that you would think that crap usually starts
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: later rounds three to seven, O seven, That's when it
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: gets more crappy, more certain. It's most certainty early on
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: in rounds one to two, when you see more players
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: in the big stage. She was singing rounds one to
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: two or three, it should be less of a crap
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: shoot and more of a crap shoot down the road.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: Why is it almost reversed for us? Well, I think
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: that's an opinion, you know. I think I think overall,
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: like every team is let's hear what running back running
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: back off the wa It's like every time I listen
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: to this, they're like they're just subsolutely flabbergasted with every pick. Um.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: But back to your question, you know, I think every
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: team has had some swings and misses in the first round.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: But I think overall, Bill when he takes a guy
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: in the first round, the guy's usually good. Now when
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: you know, you know he's had some misses, he's had
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: he's been really good in the first round. Like everything
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: else lately, it's been a little hit and miss. Yeah,
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: But in the second round, particularly when they take those
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: defensive bats, he's they've had some issues. Yeah. I just
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: I think every like pick is kind of its own thing,
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: and people want to put it into a box of like, well,
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: don't ever draft a right guard in round two if
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: it falls on a Sunday you know, in the third
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: like it just gets so random like so, but I
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: will say that I will say that I think that
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: there's connections though, I mean, do you really think like
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: like he's got a blind spot for ex position? He
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: can't say, I can't really find I think that he
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: overthinks it. I think that they try to zig when
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: other teams when the rest of the league is sagging.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: I think the more athleticism required for a position, the
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: less app to he is to do it because he
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: looks for everything. Yeah, I think you're overthinking it thought.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: I agree, right, you know, it's got to be a
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: guy that fits a lot of different you know, buckets
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: for the Patriots to be drafted higher, and sometimes that
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: the gates the athleticism because well, football is in is
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: important to him because you know he did this or
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: that he did that or yeah. In that regard, I
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: go back to feeling like he was raised at Navy
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: and was around a lot of Navy could you know players,
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: And I still kind of see that in the players
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: he takes that he takes the kind of guys that
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: will go to a service academy, sometimes literally to a
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: service academy, but those kind of guys who who oftentimes
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: are not the greatest athletes, but they're the kind of
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: guys that you can tell go run through a wall
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: in there and they're gonna try. Hey, thanks for the
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: job called Mike, appreciate it. But I just have trouble
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: Jalen Pete say. I like him as a player. He's
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: a good player. I mean, the Patriots didn't really need
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: a safety, but I like him. Um, I feel like
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: I'm forgetting something. No. I agree with your we're talking
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: to your premise about Bill. Sometimes I think trying to
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: overthink a little bit. And what I would say, Mike
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: to answer your question is not that I necessarily think
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: that there's something he can't but I do think that
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: there have been some trends in the league that I
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: think he's been slow to adjust two and one of
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: those involves sort of the spreading out in the I'm
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: gonna try to say proliferation of the passing game. It's
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: one of those phases I would write it. Yeah, I can't,
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: I can't speak, and I think that that makes it
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: tough for him. Like I think, I don't think it's
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: coincidence that he's taking the fewest amount of wide receivers
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: in the time that he's been in the league because
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: he doesn't value the position as much as other people do.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: It's pretty clear over the last five, eight, ten years,
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: wide receivers are more important than yeah, oh yeah, right then,
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: but you know, but then when he does take one, yeah,
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: it hasn't really one like in the first round, to
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: Fred's point, the second round cornerback, I can give you
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: a half dozen, right, he took one wide receiver in
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: the first round and it didn't work one, Like I don't.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: I don't think that's a referendum. One. He can't pick
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: a wide receiver. Well, but he's picked like you know,
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: Dobson was the second rounder Jackson, Shad Jackson, I mean,
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: and who's the other kind? But now you're going back
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: fifteen years, like right now, wide receiver is a position
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: I think you have to have. Right, the value of
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: wide receiver has gone way up, way up because the
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: need for them. You know, it's it's well and everything
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: you're saying it makes it sound I mean and rightly,
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: so it seems like it's pushing him farther away from
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: it of saying I just have to try to develop
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: guys from within. Well, it's it's almost he's being a
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: little stubborn. It's like, yes, you know almost, Well, like
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: I want to be a coach, you know, I want
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: to I want to form a team and you know,
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: have you know, eleven guys playing together. And when you
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: have high end talent like wide receiver, they don't need
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: the coaching as much. You know, they might need to
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: be shown how to be a professional, but in terms
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: of like just beating out the guy that's matched up
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: with them, they they just have that type of talent.
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: But I mean, like, but like Randy Moss was a
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: supremely gifted talent who loved like being when he first
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: got here, was always talking about like how he coached,
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: he was coaching other players, and he was the unicorn, right,
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: He's the guy like Bill always says it. You know,
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: it's like Lawrence Taylor, you know Tom Brady. Randy Moss
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: was that guy for him, Tom, this is what we
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: need to do, you know, Like there's very few players
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: that can do that with Tom Brady. Like I know
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: that Bill sometimes speaks in hyperbole, like no one works
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: harder than Patrick Chong. The way Bill spoke about Randy
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: Moss's aptitude for football was different then other guys. It
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: was like like the way he talked about Ed Reid
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: at safety. Yeah, you know, some people see everything, and
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: Randy Moss was that rare guy who had top flight,
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: exceptional physical skills to go with the mind for the game.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: And that's what Bill's looking forward. But he's also taken
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: a lot of swings on former first round peace receivers
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: and like the first round picks period. Yeah, all decisions,
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: which I think is a great thing to do. That's
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: that's the thing that Bill does all and almost none
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: of them have hit. But I think, what are you losing? Yeah,
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: what do you have to lose? You take a guy
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: on a second contract who flamed David Terrell, he brought
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: in here for a look, Jonathan Sullivan, the old defensive lineman. Um,
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: I'm saying there's a million guys, a million former first
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: round picks, and you know, the most you know, doctor
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: Starworth worked a little bit. Yeah, you know, he gave
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: him a little juice, But for the most part, those
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: guys don't work. But I love the fact that he
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: does it. I think because this talent there. But you think,
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think he's a smart guy who thinks
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: about things, and I just wonder, are they trying to
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: evolve in a certain direction. I felt like in recent
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: seasons they were trying to evolve towards power running game.
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: You know that that that seemed like the active shift
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: in the philosophy. Yeah, let's go to Vinnie and Chelmsford.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: Who's been holding on? What's up? Vinnie? Are you guys
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: fans good? How are you doing? I'm all right, Vitty.
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: I can't stand this draft. I don't know how you
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: feel about it. That was the best pick he's ever made.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: Would you were talking to Fredding? Come on, come on,
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: He's running right. Everybody else is running left. I know,
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: Chas and Checkers, I know, I get it, Vinnie, I know,
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: but right is into traffic and left is in the freeway.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: And then that little pre boy put out. Now, oh whoa.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: Well we were very highly made. I'm glad, but I'm
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: glad Vinnie brought that up because we haven't talked about it.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: What do you guys think of Sean McVeigh? Yeah, I
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: think he was making fun of us. What do you think, Vinny,
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: do you think he was making fun of the ill?
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: Pack him down? Had shame it padding this little model
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: girl friend tending back to the West coast, all those
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: little shifties. Awesome, awesome, all right? What else he got, Benny,
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: we gotta take in second round? You like him in
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: the second round, all right? He says, thanks Benny, who
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: did the thought? Arnold? Thank you Eric for it was
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: like Arnold E. It's like when we had Albert, oh
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: last year, Albert two years ago into the sauce wants
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: the punter says, he's good for two wins a year.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: As much as I wanted to continue my outrage of
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: when I watched that video of Sean McVay, uh, once
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: I heard that, it seemed more like he was kind
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: of laughing at their cells, like we spent all this
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: time when this guy we're thinking we might have a
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: shot at him, and we don't like I don't know
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: when I first saw without sound, it totally comes across
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: as disrespectful to the Patriot. But I kind of agree
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: with you, I don't I the reaction as soon as
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: the pick was like what they were laughing? They were?
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: It wasn't like, oh, but I think they were laughing.
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: First of all, they were both drunk. Did you hear
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: that was true? And yeah, and what are they doing? Well,
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: that's what I mean, that's what people were saying on
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: Twitter again, picks when okay, so we don't know. That's
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: a good point. That's a good point. It's Twitter, who knows. Yeah,
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: but I think what's his face? Florio said, my goal
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: was to be not more drunk than Sean McVeigh was,
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: but not as drunk as less Needless, I think the
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: moment the pick was made, they were cracking up. They
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: were laughing at us. It's it sure looked like that.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: I see where the interpretation can can be that they
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: were laughing at themselves. But I think that's probably a
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: ten percent chance. And it was a little bit heightened
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: and perhaps from alcohol, a little bit of yeah, yeah,
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: they were a little bit what are we doing in
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: LA now? Which was ranking and doing yeah and then
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: and and I mean and then you connect, you won
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: the super Bowl? For you? The draft video they know,
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: which was about two minutes too long, Well, that something
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: that was well done. I mean, I mean, if you're
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: gonna do that, you do it, you do it. I
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: didn't see I would have I would have thought they
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: had it up. They had a Hollywood production. Oh no,
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: there's no question. It was like five minutes long. I
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: just kept waiting for the like, what was the point
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: of it? What would they doing? It was draft hype,
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: but they had Dennis Quaitet in it. All the players
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: like like like really with good speaking parts. And they
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: were absolutely directed because none of them looked like, you know,
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: stilted matty. They were really natural. Yeah, it was real.
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: It was excellent. It was very very well done. I
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: only know it would have been I get where you're going,
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: you're in love, You're in love with the premise you're
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: making the same joke a few times, it'll land better,
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: cut it in half, and it would have been bang
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: bang bang from Hollywood. They wanted to get a lot
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: of studio notes from They wanted to get everybody in
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: there and everything like that. I'll say this Fred and
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: I because we talk about a lot of that kind
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: of content for us, If you can get the people involved,
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: I don't care if it's not great, it's a home run, right,
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: Like if we could get Bill to do something, I
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: don't care if Bill doesn't if he's just sitting there. Right,
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: we got Bill, right, it's worth it, you know. And
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: they got the people like Aaron Donald's Cup is in it. Yeah,
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: like that works just in and of itself. I'm kind
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: of with Mike. I didn't I didn't really get it. Yeah,
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: and it was long. I got it. I just think
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: it could have been pop more. You got it after
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: shifter three minutes and you're like, okay all. I mean
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: it was like the the initial joke of Dennis Quaide
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: playing the owner, which is funny, but that like, you know,
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: they kept going back to it, and you have different
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: lines where you felt like, just pick one, pick the
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: funniest one and use that. But I mean it was
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: it was very good. I mean compared to what people
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: generally do. But it feels like the Rams are feeling
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: their own song. Oh yeah now, and they're smelling like, yeah,
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: we don't need to draft anybody. We're just sitting here
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: getting drunk and look at everybody making picks. And you know,
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: that's the vibe that they're giving off to the rest
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: of the league. And I'm sure it's not just the
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: Patriots that are you know, we're coming from. It's almost
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: like they put like twenty eight to three sweatshirts out there.
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: That's that's actually random block. Random blocks never hit on
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: the symbolism of twenty eight to three at all and
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: any never, any way, shape or four. Told you before
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: it wasn't a shot at the falcons. It's about life.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: You're down twenty eight three. In life, you gotta never
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: give up. It's not to get cranky now. Okay, So
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: at this point, are we just Andrew Booth? Well, there's
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: quite a few picks before then? What about Fred's guy?
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: Who's who's the next guard? I like, I like Woollen,
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: but I don't like John Bryan la will double DIPICRD.
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: You gotta protect Mac now there? Uh, I mean that's
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: how many trade ups have there been though, I mean
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: they're five six trade ups already. Like, guys, it seems
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: like everybody kind of sat overnight. It's almost like there's
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: not a lot of good players in this draft, and
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: people will get them up as high as they can't
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: to get the best player they can get. Almost like
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: that saying it's exactly like that. It's almost like, no,
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: I think you're different things like that. Everybody has completely
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: different opinions on who's good in this draft, you know.
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: But it's I think, to Paul's point, the teams that
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: identify the guy that they think is that good. Are
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: willing to go get them? They go get them? Yeah,
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: dads out back breakingly go get them. This one's gonna
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: let's go to Patty and agawam, what's up Patty? What's up? Guys?
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: And Gal? Hey, hey, hi, you my cholesterol? Really? I'm sure? Yeah?
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: I need some of that too, maybe some beer later too,
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: but especially if it turns out like so, I just
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: want to start out by saying I like the player.
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: First round kind of just boggled my mind, Like when
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: you guys know, I called in I think last week
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: and m Duppy was one of the guys. He was
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: one of the things. Oh they just put that on
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: to make Paul miserable. You liked him to leave me
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: on an island over here. Oh he seemed over affected
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: by it. So sorry. Duffy would have been one of
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: the guys that I would have played it up before.
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: I would have liked to see him straight up one
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: when he was there in twenty one and they traded back,
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: I just I just funk in. My team was like,
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: come on, man, and like strange has been on my radar,
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: like one of the first two guards went. I was like, yeah, well,
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: maybe they can get this guy in like the third
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: round with number pick number eighty five. But I just
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: I didn't envision. I mean, I would have settled for
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: fifty four. I won't get you know, snarky and say
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: they could have got thanks Patty at eighty five. But
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Is it out of the roma possibility
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: that you could have got this guy at fifty four? No? No,
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: And I'm just looking. I mean, you never know how
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: it would have unfolded. But there hasn't been any offensive
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: lineman taken. And was he really so good? Like? Was
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: he really that much the guy that you just had
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: to bite the bullet? And I think at fifty four
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: you're now in the range where you could probably move
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: up to get him. If you start getting Auntie that
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: someone's gonna take a guard. I don't know. Yeah, I
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: think it's to Fred's point that he checked other boxes. Yeah,
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: I think he did. No, I mean, and I go
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: back to the name, why can't you check those boxes
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: from the fifty fourth spot? I don't understand. I just yeah,
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: he has to be the first round or to check boxes.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm gonna gonna go back to the point
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: I made before though, like you got Tuning in round
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: three Mason in round four. Is this guy gonna be
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: that much better than them? No? But so why are
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: you taking him? I think that they wanted to move
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: out of the first round completely and they couldn't and
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: they had to make a pick, and there was nobody
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: else that was better that they could have gotten him later,
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: whether or not better. But you know, we need a guard.
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: We know we're gonna have to take a guard, and
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: we know we're gonna have to take a guard who
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: was a potential to start. But again, my point is
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: they got guards who started at very high levels in
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: rounds three and four. Yeah, they but but maybe this
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: year they didn't really feel or I mean, maybe those
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: guys were more Let's take a chance on Tuny. I mean,
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: it's a low round guy. He probably had a few
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: more questions and you know he was able to seize
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: that job even though you were about it. But let's
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: look at the line, right, like David Andrews is solid, right,
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: you would say, yeah, nobody else you know when always injured,
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: you know, and want you I mean, he's okay, he
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: got rid of Shack Mason. The line was just so
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: well Trent Brown. You're right there. I forgot about what
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: what did you He's solid. He's solid. Yeah, you just
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: have to worry about about his availability. I also think
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: he's okay. Like their offensive line is. I have no
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: problem that they talk to the offensive line. Mike and
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: I did seventeen podcasts for this draft, and every one
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: of them we talked about offensive line is a major need.
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: If they had taken on Johnson, yes, it would have
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: not been a sexy pick, but it would have. I mean,
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: I would have been totally understandable to take a guard
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: at twenty one, like they needed offensive line help along
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: with cornerback and edge and wide receiver in linebacker and
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: all that stuff offensive. I'm not mad that they took
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: an offensive lineman. I just think they took one earlier
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: than they needed to based on what was available. Yeah,
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: that's all. Let's go to Christian in La Christian allus, Hey,
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: is this guy the top ranked offensive lineman? Do you
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: guys know it's uh cold strange? No, no, no, there
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: were guys taken before him that are obviously they were
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: ranked higher. Now he was the best, He was the
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: best guard on the board. I would say at the time, yeah. Yeah,
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: the two best guards were gone and he was. He
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: was third in most lists, right, yeah, okay, I mean
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: some people had him as a center, but I mean
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: he was he was, he was there. Yeah. Right, So
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: it seems like, you know, Bill likes the guy that
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: can want to be plugging, playing two, that can do
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: multiple things. He can be guard to tackle taking question
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: really quickly. Do you guys know if they can't if
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: they consult with Dante doing the draft? Dard reported today. No,
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: but Dard reported, I know I saw that a lot,
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: and I I yeah, I was not. I don't know, like,
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: for all I know, they flew Dante out to do
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: a private work. I don't that's what they did with solders,
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: but that I heard something I know. But so what
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: he's been returning, he's just consultant. You don't think that.
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: I don't think he is anymore. This is the point.
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: I don't know Seattle's pick, which one may have to
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: pick back to back edge. Who Oh, I'm honestly surprised
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: they didn't go quarterback. Oh they got the next pick too,
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: so damn quarterback means what's that, Chris? I would I
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: would hear on ESPN that the all the Senior Bowl
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: guys were super high on this this uh you know,
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: miss the strange here, So that could probably go into
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: my question, is this guy as the league mote more
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: towards points and more away from just defense, there's this
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: guy by mac one two more seconds if that's important.
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: Max still doesn't have anybody to throw too, So it
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: doesn't matter if you get a great guard that can
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: give you a half seconds second more. If you can't
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: get open, you got no one to get open. Well,
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: I'm a little confused as to why we didn't use that.
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: I know, like you said, he wanted to get out
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: of the first round when he got stuck in that
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: first round. Why not just go after the fastest linebacker,
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: go after the best wide receiver. I know, guard, we
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: needed someone to start, But it just seems like a
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: little you know, like you guys all said it, Bill's digging,
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: everyone's zagging. I'm a little PERPLEXI but I do understand
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: getting a right away. What do you guys think we
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: should go at fifty four if we're not going to
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: trade down for my defense defense defense defense, defense, defense, Yeah, cornerbacks,
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: the front seven, yeah, yeah, we just packing some of
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: those because we have so many medium could players in
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: this draft. Do you see us packaging several players? Can
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: move up from fifty four to get the best players?
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: Sure we can POSSI get on defense. Yep. They last
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: three years they've moved up in the second round, so
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't rule it out. But we're getting close. We're
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: getting down there now. So if they're gonna do a move,
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: they gotta they gotta start thinking about it. Seriously. They
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: free we're gonna wind up at the bottom of the division.
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: What the Jets just did for the ranked starters, what
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: the Dolphins just did, and what but the Bills are doing.
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: It looks like we are not going to be able
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: to roll guys. We'll see as we know. You know
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: this is all on paper. You know, we got to
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: see how the Jets have had some really good drafts before.
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: Thanks for the call, Christ And I'm getting annoyed at
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: his connection. Yeah, yeah, it was a tough connection. I
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: would just like to say, Devin mccordy said, doctor strange.
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: They said I was a bad draft pick too. Welcome
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: to New England. You're gonna fit in well. Yeah. Kenneth
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: Walker running, he's a really good running back. Yep. I mean,
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: you know me running backs on your road. But he's
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: a good he's a good running who's their quarterback right now?
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: Drew Luck? Drew Luck. Let's go to Rob. They were
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: joking around. I saw on Twitter today like they had
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: forty and forty one that like they should take like
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: Malik Willis and Sam let's go to Robin Melbourne. What's
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: up Rob? Good? Hey, how's everybody today? Good? Um? Yeah,
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: I forgot i'd give a call in. Uh. I was
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: a bit disappointed with the pick that came through last night.
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: I was I was actually hoping they'd take that All
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: Street kid. Yeah, Barnard Raymond, get him with the next year. Yeah. Yeah.
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: My thought is, as you said that, somebody one of
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: those tackle gets hurt all the time, and at least
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: you could bring him in and maybe have a tackle
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: of the future and he'd probably play this year, you know,
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: half the games either at right or left because win
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: or you know your boys are going to get hurt.
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, um, I mean Raymond's pretty highly ranked,
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: you know, and the first second round ranking. Yeah he's yeah,
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: he's one of the higher rank guys left. Ye. Well,
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: I can tell you for a day two This is
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: this is kind of what I'm kind of hoping to
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: see on day two here. I'd like to see either
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: a double dipp of wide receiver, a double different linebacker,
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: and the guys I like at and you're getting your
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: opinion on linebacker. I like the kid out of Wyoming
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: he Chad Muma, and I like the guy out of
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: Montana State, yeah, and Roy Anderson him. Yeah, Muma is
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: a production guy, you know. Yeah, yeah, I didn't like
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: him as much fashion all. But yeah, the other guy
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: I wanted, Darien Beaver. I want one of those two
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: smaller guys. And then I'd like to pair them with
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: the Cincinnati guy. And then the wide receivers I like.
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: I like Paul's guy, David bell Um, and I think
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: Mike your guy is Kyle Phillips, who I really liked
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: there too. And then when Wayndale Robinson, I you know,
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: combine them in which way and then Mike, this one's
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: for you defensive back. I'd like for them to trade
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: up right now and go get Travis Jones. Yeah. Next two,
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: Christian Barmore put a big old faddy in there, who
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: eats fate get them so an interesting Travis Jones going again,
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: thanks Rob. One of the ones he lost, Yeah, didn't
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: look good for whole str the one we already got.
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: What about Christian Harris linebacker the thing. But they have
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: a bunch of off the ball linebackers right now, and
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: I know that it's not gonna make anybody happy. And
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: what one, two, three, five of them are coming off
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: some kind of significant injury. Um, but they've got a bunch.
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: And so as much as you want to bring Muma
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: in or those and I get it, I like those
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: guys too. I just who is playing the edge of
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: the defense like that Harris more than me though as
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: those I would agree that I'm not the biggest MoMA fan.
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: I just I think he's kind of everybody really likes
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: MoMA because Logan Wilson has turned into a super player
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: for Cincinnati and he played at Wyoming. Yeah, yeah, so
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: they're just automatically assuming we got the wrong Wyoming guy
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: kash Maluiah. Yeah, and now we got to get another
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: Wyoming of those guys of the kind of stiff middle linebackers.
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: I like Leo Chanal from from Wisconsin. I mean, he
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: just he's he's a beast inside. But I just I
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: think you need a somebody either Travis Jones, somebody on
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: the line, somebody who plays edge, the off the ball linebackers.
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: I know it's a position that's gotten a ton of
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: attention this this offseason, but they have a log jam
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: of guys, and when you have real specific needs, I
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: think you need an edge. You need somebody who can
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: play on the line of scrimmage and win the line
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: of scrimmage. I think they're lacking those guys. The ones
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: that they have are getting old. You've got Barmore, but
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: after that, it's who who do you got? Judean and Barmore?
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: Did they need help? They need guys who can take
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: pressure off of them so that they can make plays.
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: And right now, it's well, we'll just focus on those two.
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: All right. You guys want to try to beat this
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: with Dietrich wise, go for it. Now. That's that's the
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: approach teams you're gonna take. This is an interesting little
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: factoid that doesn't have anything to do with the Patriots,
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: but this is the first time since two thousand that
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: only one quarterback has been selected in the top forty. Yeah,
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: what happened that? Yet? Fred? That was dj Manuel two thousand.
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: Who who was drafted in two thousand, Tom Brady, Yeah,
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: Tom Brady Brady six. So maybe you should just wait
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: till one ninety unity to take a league will right? Yeah?
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: So well, I mean there were a lot of quarterbacks
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: taken that year, but yeah, not early six before by
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: yes Brady six, right, yeah, so that's not a lot.
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: There was five in the first fifteen picks last year. Six. Yeah,
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: And here goes Booth, focusing on the number six six
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: Mike to who both both Minnesota, Minnesota. Yeah, they just traded.
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: Oh they did traded with the clots. Oh all right,
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: Well my list is blown up, refreshing, it's it's slowly
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: um disappearing. So wait, is Gordon gone too? Yeah? Yeah,
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: the cornerbacks is are thinning out rapidly. Sam Houston state
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: he's available, I believe. So you know, the only guy
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: left Freddie cornerback is your guy, Tariq Woollen. Your guy
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: would be maybe, yeah, but I don't think I don't
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: think he should be taken until no, no, like the
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: third round. You know where did Elam go forgot? Buffalo? Um?
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: Joe writes in from San Antonio. Pardon my stupid question,
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: but I just can't remember the video schedule. Is it
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: all night tonight or still just an hour or so?
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: Pure you wish it was. Actually, we're gonna be happy
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: to be wrapping it up in about six minutes. Yeah,
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: it's just one hour, but we'll continue with the audio
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: until ten o'clock. So still here. Yes, So Mike, would
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: you say that's the best eddresher available? Yeah? But that
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: and everybody's gonna lose their mind because he just blew
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: his achilles out, So like, oh great, I mean, I
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: know we need it, but like I think you need
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: to have a guy that play. I mean that, And
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: it's it goes back to you've got these guys, and
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: you know, as much as I say you got the
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: off the ball guys, you do have Oocha Jennings, Ronnie Perkins,
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: three guys haven't really played significant draft picks, Camcron, Camacron
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: maybe more of an intact guy, but you know those guys,
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: they need to be able to play if you're to
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: find out. So are we gonna take another one of
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: those guys that we're not going to know if he
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: can play too until next year? I was workshopping one
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: of my developing opinions. Yeah, um with Mike, and it's
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: just that, Um, I think this is an indication that
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: they might be finally ready to let those guys play. Well,
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: that's I think you're right, Paul. I think you know
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: we're here, we are like they need linebackers, they need it,
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: and they're like, we've got guys. Yeah, and we're gonna
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: give him a chance to play, like Paul just said,
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: And maybe that's kind of what they're thinking, you know,
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: like we just we get rid of High Tower Collins.
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: I mean and and I mean I think ven Noy's gone.
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: You know, we're gonna have bit that bullet over the
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: last two years and not now into year two of
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: mac Um. I've said it before. I can't fault them
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: for taking back Dante high Tower after the COVID season
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: him wanted to come back. I I mean, you're gonna
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: take him back every single time he wants to come back.
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: It was just when then it was all right, well,
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: High Tower's back, that's great. There's some continuity there, there's
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: some leadership that can help shepherd some of these young
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: linebackers as they get into the mix. But then they
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: brought back van Noy and Collins too, and those guys
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: just got pushed farther down the depth chart. So we
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: still don't know what what they have. And we're entering years,
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: you know, two and three with them. So you know,
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: what does Ronnie Perkins have? Is this We're gonna have
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: to find out. And it's a lot of pressure on
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: the defense, on Gerad Mayo, on Steve Belichick to now
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: take these young guys that and I know, you know,
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: just as an example, I know Steve Belichick was heavily
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: involved with with Ronnie Perkins. It's like, all right, well
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: now it's now now we're gonna have to find out.
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: Now there goes one of our guys to Paulli. Another
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: one one Dale. That's a little early for him. I
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: really liked him, but I don't know if I liked
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: him as much as the second round one. Dale to
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: the Giants, given Danny Jones some weapons in his lame
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: duck year apparently to throw too, and of course Kadarius
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: Tony Easy that one fell apart quick for them. He
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: must be a piece of work to have fallen out
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: of favorite right, and for I mean, if he was
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: a potential piece of work, I don't know. I just
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: feel like, with all due respect to Christmas, that seems
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: like Joe jud seems like a guy who would avoid
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: those kind of you know, potential question marks if it
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: fell apart that quick. Uh. Justin writes in, it's not
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: exactly apples to apples, and it doesn't make it a
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: smart pick to take them where they did. But I'm
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: hopeful the Strange pick plays out similarly to Jalen Brown's
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: selection in twenty seventeen, when the Celtics fans were disappointed
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: and booed the pick and ended up getting an All
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: Star caliber player. Hopefully Strange becomes a strong piece of
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: the old line and it ends up working out. So
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: I have I don't know what. I have no recollection
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: of Jaylen Brown being well, I mean not saying like
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: at the Garden there wasn't like. I don't Yeah, I'm
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: not Kenny Keller. I don't go to the Garden for
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: the draft. Um, but I don't remember that that pick
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: being universally panned Jaylen Brown I don't remember either. It's
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: his best couple. Yeah, Joe writes in, I hated the pick,
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: but it's been made and now I'm going to be
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: blindly optimistic may as well. I can't do a single
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: other thing about it anyway. That being said, this is
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: never a good pick, even if he is a Hall
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: of Famer. That is so unlikely that you can't possibly
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: credit them for knowing that, right. I think I'm in
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: the same space as him in the sense of like
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: you can't cry over spilled milk anymore. Like yeah, well,
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: and it's easier to root for a guy when you
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: see him in person and you see how excited he
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: is to be a patriot and to be part of it.
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: It's it's hard to be like, oh you, you're doing
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: your face. Get out of here. Yeah. I think I
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: think he's someone He's beautiful in your face. I did
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: that face. We were out on the on the turf
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: today waiting for him to come out, and you know,
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: talking to like Reese and you know, a couple of
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: the McBride Andrew Collah had a couple of reporters. I
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: was just like, so, how's your's your how's your day been?
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: A lot of you know, Mike, Well, this is terrible.
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: They're laughing at me. It's like who I mean, for everybody,
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: you know, everybody, it's like, you know, you at least.
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: I mean, they have a job to cover the guy
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: into you know, give them. I think after talking to him,
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: like he's not just someone that is going to do
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: a lot of talking about what they're gonna do. I
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: think he's going to show us exactly what he's I mean.
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: And that's it goes back to kind of thing. It's
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: gonna be great. I just wish it was that a
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: position that could be absolutely Like, because plays at a
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: Pro Bowl level this year, how much difference does it
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: make as far as how the patience and lawson ends up.
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: And I know that there'll be a lot of people
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: that will be telling me how we played, but like
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: the whole same people will been telling me how Isaiah
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: Win and Trent Brown played last year. They were both
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: mediocre when they played and missed a lot of impor
• 1:00:00
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• 1:00:02
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• 1:00:06
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  Speaker 1: I need my chips again because I had better luck
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• 1:06:19
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  Speaker 1: Greg Bernard just tweeted out, no, like really, Okay, well
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  Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think that he's that much of
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  Speaker 1: at Alabama, he must be good. Um. You know, it's
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: the same thing with Slade Bolden that everyone's you know,
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: got a fascination for who is like, you know, as
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: slow as they come. Um, but there'll probably be people
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: who are ecstatic because they drafted Max's roommate, you know.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: So I still think George Pickens would be an excellent,
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: exciting pick, But you know, it's they're running out now.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: There's becoming fewer and fewer guys that you really get. Okay, Jack,
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: when you look at the pool, who would you fish
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: for at this point? Wide receiver wise? Mike, Oh god,
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: see that's that's hard. I mean, Pickens um running down
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: the list. I mean it's I don't know. I wouldn't
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: really love Kyle Phillips, Kyle Phillips earlier, Yeah, Phillips, but
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: I'd take Pickens. Yeah, I would definitely know Eric likes Pickens.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: I do, um, but this slim pick I've already used
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: that about David Bell. David Bell I liked. This is
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: a little early for him. He's more of a third rounder.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: But I'm yeah, I'm not gonna get caught up in
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: that if you like the player. I mean, obviously they
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: did it with Cole Strength. Right at this point, I
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: think I'm gonna have to go small school just because
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: of the way we're going. I gotta say, Polly, I
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: see the way this. I think I know how it's
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: about to go. They're not gonna take another good receiver.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: They're not gonna taken maybe we'll get a Kyle Phillips.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: We're gonna take No. One none. It's gonna just like
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: Seinfeld again. It's gonna be a draft about nothing again.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: Position this offense, and what are they gonna do? Now?
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: Why am I hiring you to coach my team? Not yet?
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: You're not not yet? Uh yeah, there's I mean, I
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: was just just running down the list though. I mean,
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm kind of out on wide receivers. I mean, yeah,
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: Skymore Fine, didn't love love him, Alec Pierce. I don't
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: like any of these guys, I don't really I mean,
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: I don't really like any of them. Ravens, taken, Ojabo,
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: jabbo whatever, how do you pronounce it? But you know,
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: but I mean to be fair defense defense defense. So
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: maybe down in the fourth you get you get a
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: Kyle Phillipson and I'd be hey, that that's And I
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: was saying saying that the guys today, it was like,
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: I just want somebody fun to look forward to in
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: training camp. Like last year it was like, man, I
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: have to watch Mac. It's watch a rookie quarterback and
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: thrown into the mix in a competition against Cam Newton,
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: Like I'm there for that. That's exciting. It's I mean,
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: and obviously it's as good as it gets a rookie
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: quarterback where that. I mean, you're gonna see him throw
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: a ton of passes. He's going to be out there. Um.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: You know, just love to have a player that I'm
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: looking forward to seeing how he enters the mix. And
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: you know, as much as you're looking through your binoculars
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: across the field at Cole Strange going up against Christian
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: Barmore and trying to you know, keep Traka who wins
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: and loses all that it's uh, I don't know, it's
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: just it's it's a Patty says. According to the Athletic
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: Football Show podcast before the draft, they said that Dante
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: indeed still consults with the Patriots. So Paul, don't blow
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: me blah Bdard who said that is not the case, right,
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: Mike correct, Well, he's mad to his report. Um Wayne
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: in Tasmania. My wife has heard many snippets of the
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: show over the years. Today was the first time she
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: saw any of you. She's both shocked and disappointed that
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: Paul is not a young, tall stud. She says. His
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: voice is very deceptive. Especially, Wow, this is this is
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: when you had the voice of a tall stud stud.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: I was just focusing on the stud part. Pretty cool
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: watching a jabo and his family. What a terrible set
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: of circumstances where you know, doing a workout, great place,
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: but great place to land there with his family. Crime.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: That's just that, you know, this is the stuff. As
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: much you want the Patriots, but it's it's nice to
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: see these kids and get a chance. Listen. Can you
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: imagine that? Like you know, you know, I've had kids
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: that played sports, you know, they got to college and
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: all that and I just can't imagine, like if they
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: went to the pros, like as a parent, like what
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: that would be like to be in the room when
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: they get the call and they get drafted. You know,
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: it's it's amazing, and then it's also it's life change.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: Can you imagine the pressure too, though, of having your
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: kid be a professional athlete? I remember about like even
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: like what Fred is talking about, like when you're like
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: a high school athlete, you have like a senior day
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: and your parents go out. It's a big deal, and
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: you cry, like I cried at my nephews. You imagine, like,
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: imagine if you had a kid, yeah that was supremely
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: talented and went pro. Did Steve Burton cry when Veronica
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: got drafted? He probably? Yeah, he was all over Twitter
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: all day. Yeah, Like he was psyched. Yeah. And Steve
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: Burton played at a high level. Good. Yeah, I played
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: at Northwestern. He so he you know, it's not like
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: it was new to him and like he was so
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: psyched for her. You know he should be oh yeah,
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: you know, especially just because so few players get draft
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: in then w NBA, it's it's very very slim compared
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: to the NFL draft. In the MLB. Oh my gosh,
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: So to see how drafted was was pretty odd. Yeah,
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: it's it's you know, in the two draft, I love Lions.
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: Select a Ron Josh back to him right now, just
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: throw it all away. George is starting to get upset,
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: you know. But that's the kind of guy I was
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: hoping for. And you know six two five as two
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: sixty eight. Just an inside guy that could put him
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: on the edge, put him inside, move him around, play
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: with him in barmore, create matchup problems, stout tough guy.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think the lines, the lines are having
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: a pretty good draft. I think Alan in South Carolina.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: I've been a Patriots fan since nineteen ninety eight, and
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: Bill's handling of the team and these picks in the
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: past few years has really got me struggling to hang on.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: I know that worst case, we got a Pro Bowl guard,
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: but I wish that instead of trying to be clever
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: and playing chess, that we could see this team with
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: some short, thin talent in the first few rounds. I
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: feel like our recent approach has been bringing a knife
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: to a gunfight, but thinking, don't worry, we'll outsmart them.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: I'm sure Strange will be a great addition when we're
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: running the ball on third and eleven down six in
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. But Paul, Paul, You've said this multiple times,
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: this draft didn't have a lot of sure thing talent,
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: like it kind of yeah, dropped off and so almost
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: you we're gonna like trade up to the top ten
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: to get a few sure things. Yeah. I just like, yeah,
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: I agree with that, and I'm going to stay consistent.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: People have been talking throughout this pre draft process that
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: this is not a strong class. Yeah, so rather than
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: get all leftovers, no, but rather than get all like
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: psyched out and say, like, what do they do? You know,
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: like there weren't that many, let's watched them play for
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: a couple of years and see if they were right
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: or if they were wrong. Right. Yeah, I just I'm
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: maybe it's a way that we could go back to
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: the future. Not yet. I just That's that's what I'm
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: worried about right now. I'm worried about maybe Cole Strange
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: was the highlight of the draft. Right now? Is they
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: of just watching guys I like go left and right?
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: And as I interjected with Paul, it's starting to feel like,
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: are we just waiting for the left. It's like Bill said,
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: you know you're you're just watching the train go by.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: You know you hate that, you know you want to
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: be in the mix. Yeah, I mean it is it.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: You know, usually on Saturday we get to the point
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: where we're like, Okay, we haven't heard of these guys
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: or they're from really small schools. But now, but now
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: is that going to be happening on day two? Yeah? Yis?
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: I mean Travis Jones is still mel Kiper's best available
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: defensive lineman. Federian Mathis, I'm seeing him pop up two
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: is three. I mean I think thank he just went
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: to Washington. Mathis Fedarian Mathis, Yeah, I'm not it's you
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: know on the Yeah, um, interesting Travis Jones. I mean,
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: Yukon was terrible last year they lost the Holy Cross.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: Uh but yeah, but holy Cross was good. So but
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: still that's that's kind of interesting fault because I saw
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: a lot of people saying because of Jordan Davis that
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: people were sleeping on Travis Jones and that really he's,
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: you know, not that much behind him and could be
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: a first round guy. And I mean everybody kind of
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: has him ranked pretty high. I mean, the Bruglar board
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: he's thirty four. Only Dean and Willis are above him
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: that are left right now, So there's still some guys,
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: but you're starting to get down to the down to
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: the you know, just the players that you don't really
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: know that are gonna be more a projection. I mean,
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: I guess that's generally true anyway, but at least for
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: me personally, the guys that I really like, it feels
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: like they're they're really going. Chris writes in I love
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: the draft coverage. I'll start this off by making it
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: clear that I didn't necessarily like the Cole Strange pick. However,
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: I think the pick is a testament to how they
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: feel about Mac. I think the team is confident that
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: Mac will not only get better, but that he'll soon
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: be able to carry the team. Cole should be an
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: immediate starter and will absolutely bolster the line. Yeah, well
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: he better. Yeah, Okay, I'm having a hard time understanding
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: that logic. If it's an indication that they're all in
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: on Mac, and they're completely convinced that, why wouldn't you
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: go defense? If you're all in on Mac, you don't
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: need to help him. He's the guy. Maybe I don't
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: have a bad way. Maybe he meant since they're all
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: in him, they want to get the tools to surround him. Paul,
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: I think that's what he was saying. But I think, yeah,
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: but I think that's the opposite. That's all I think,
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: Like we talked about that last night. If if you're
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: all in on Mac, he can get by with just
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: an average offensive line, like they were the offensive line
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: watching a train wreck last year. But do they think
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: it's not quick? But now you don't have Shaq Mason. Yep.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: I thought he wasn't any good. I'm just saying that
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: he was competent. You know, who plays chess. They just
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: didn't want this guy. They just didn't want to pay
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: the money anymore. But but he was you know, losing
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: him was absolutely you know, now something you had to
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: you had to fill it. Who's your starting guards? It's
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: interesting and just a ron really you could now what's
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: going to be cold strange right right? But yeah, I
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: would have been fine with it. I feel like you'll
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: see it noticeable difference, oh, Paul, Yeah, I just I
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: mean then you'll see different. Paul is nothing but consistent.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: He is the guy that called west Welker lose change.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: So you know, and I'm also nothing but consistent. When
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: I'm wrong, I'll tell you a right. I was wrong
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: about West Welker, Okay, right, and you could be wrong
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: about Cole Strange without question. Okay, So could you Bears
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: d tackle Alabama like you were about Isaiah win See
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: I said his bar as a Pro Bowl guard. They
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: haven't given him a chance yet at guard. Right, he's
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: got to play guard before I'm wrong, Then move him
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: to guard. Your guard problems are solved, and I let
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: heron play tackle where he played last year. Yeah, but
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: I don't think he's good enough to be every game
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: at a tackle ron. Yeah. So that's where we bring
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: in bond Hard. Isn't it a funny? I mean, I
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: know wide receivers get all the attention, but going back
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: to franchising, Tuney, how they've managed the guard position over
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: the last three seasons was a stake. It's kind of bizarre. Yeah,
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: and no, it's my feeling and feeling I was trying
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: to avoid that we're turning off Eric's Mike and my
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: feeling on that is exactly what you said. I didn't
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: understand franchising, Tuny. I didn't understand the long term, big
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: money contract for shack. So what do you do? You
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: get rid of those guys your cycle note and you
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: take another guard in the first round, So you gotta don't.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: I don't understand him. Also my comment earlier, I said
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: Baker could have a home by the end of today.
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: Did you get traded? What happened at news? He's about
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: to what do you know? What do you what? What
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: do you know? Tom? Sources say that he's heading down
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: south to the Panthers Carolina. Oh my goodness. And it's
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: funny because I literally said, multiple times, I keep saying
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: Sam Donald's our guy right until the boy they said it,
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: the more you didn't believe it. And rob you know,
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: I Robbie Anderson not a big fan of Baker Mayfield too,
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: But didn't you have like a social media posterho was
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: reporting that the ESPN reporter who's there reporting for Carolina, um,
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: she said that it could interest could be finished by
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: tonight or the end of the weekend. Okay, okay, Baker
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: Mayfield eyeballs emoji, eyeball emoji. Well, we might see him
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: up here then perhaps at the joint practice. Yeah, shaking
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: Baker with another can you imagine that this is the
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: house that could go on if those two guys don't
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: play well at your factor warned Baker Mayfield and complete
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: pass Yeah oh hey TV anymore. So that's that's a development.
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: It's it's it's big all caps could Kimberly yeah, Kimberly Martin, Yeah,
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: she does have the star could star closed star. So,
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: I mean that was one of the places that I
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: just really think they need a quarterback. Yeah, they said
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: they have one. But and this guy Tepper that owns
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: the Panthers, he'll spend some money, he doesn't he yeah yeah, yeah,
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: so but then trade Sam Donald now if that happens,
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: yeah right for what like I don't think I'll take
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: a fifth round for him. If I'm the Panthers, just
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: give a fifth round for him if you like, if
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: you need a pay yeah yeah, Jas says, I love
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: the show. I usually call, but during this while I'm
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: at work. When you look at the twenty twenty two draft,
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: isn't the second and third round where there are some
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: gems This year more than most years, it seems like
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: they were maybe fifteen really good players and maybe from
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: sixteen to sixty four there isn't as much of a
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: difference in quality this year. By the way, in the
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: two twenty two NFL Draft, the Chicago Bears select Jaqua
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: Brisker defensive back. Okay, I would really like to see
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: a study with these guys. I see a lot like
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: a lot of these draft experts, they compare draft classes
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: from year to year with how many potential first round picks,
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: Like how many they had twelve first round grades this year?
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: There was fourteen last year and twenty of the year before.
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: I would like to see a comparison of the draft
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: where if that's true, if there are more guys in
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: this draft that are going to go between thirty and
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: ninety that actually our second round value than there are
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: in a typical draft. Yeah, and that would make sense
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: to me because of what we talked about last night
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: with the influx of sure people available for eligible in
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: this draft because of they came back and they were
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: extra years. You know, the guy we drafted, it's a
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: six year college player. Yeah, so he you know, he
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: had two senior seasons. Yeah, yep, um NISI probably says,
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: by the way, I posted on Facebook twenty one hours
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: prior to the draft that the Patriots would do exactly
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: what they did and even picked the right player, though
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: I thought it would be picked number thirty instead of
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: twenty nine. Well if you did, JS, if you pick
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: Cole Strange at you know, thirty, then hats off to you.
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: I think I should have been the only person should
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: have been in Vegas putting money down. Yeah, I'd like
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: to be impressed, but I'm really kind of I think
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: it's sad. I didn't realize that. I think PFF keeps
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 1: track of all the different mocks that are run, and
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: it said something like, of the x thousands of mocks,
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 1: there were two two Patriot mock drafts that actually had
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: them selecting Cole Strange in the first round, in the
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: first round of like thousands and thousands, and you know,
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: I mean I did probably thirty twenty. But that's like
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: your dark board throw kind of thing, right, or just
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: some guy screwing around, Like yeah, strange, that sounds stupid. Uh,
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: let's see. Jake writes in from Bendigo, Australia after yesterday's picked.
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: I'm lost. I know we need to protect Mac, but anyway,
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: welcome Strange. I'm currently stuck at a fourth birthday party
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: or I don't know, a four year old birthday, four
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: year old, and I am sneaking in and out to
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: try to listen to what's going on. I was going
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: to ask you who you think will pick, but no
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: use asking after what happened yesterday. Hopefully we get it
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: done and get it done right. Ps. I hope you've
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: sourced some decent or d'uvres tonight. We had Chinese food tonight,
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: We sure did. Yeah, many homes fendah, Fred, I'm still
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: upset for you, hot dog. You made one request, yeah,
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: and you would just weeks ago. Can we make sure
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: that we have the many hot dogs? And we didn't
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: get them hot dogs? Yeah? Just was like, who's that
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: old guy yelling at me? Dogs? Matt, I'm with you.
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: They did have the popcorn, but yeah, the popcorn was good.
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: I was hungry and then I had like the taco
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: ball bar right near us. I was getting excited. I'm like,
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: you know what, midway through the show, im a popover
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: have a time. Every time we took a break, after
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: we got all gone, where am I talking? After we
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: cut off video? Every time we took a break, I
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: wanted to go over and get something like get an
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: ice cream Sunday, like Fred did, and that just you know,
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: my people got ce people, mister Burrulo, mister Burulo, Paul's public,
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: Ben and Pittsfield. I just wanted to write in how
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: hot broken I am about John Metchi being picked. He
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: was the one person I was sure the Patriots would
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: feasibly pick. Sad to see the college wide receiver quarterback
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: window gone besides Slay Bolden. But please know, he was
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 1: someone that the Patriots fans united in wanting, and seeing
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: him gone seems like a reminder that this draft has
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: not been going the way the fans wanted. Gonna be
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: sad about Metchi for a while. Great show so so far, though,
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: Thanks Ben. I don't know, yeah, it would have been nice.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's a nice story, but I was more
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 1: excited about possibly getting Jamison Williams than Metchi, sure, you know, yeah,
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 1: And I wouldn't have been pissed if they got Metchi.
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: I just didn't think that he was the player that
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 1: a lot of people seem to think he is. And
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: if they get I think he's good. And if they
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: get a guy like Pickens instead, I'll be happier than
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: if they had Metchi. Honestly, he's a beast. I mean,
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: I you know, as we're coming up on it, I
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: mean I think Pickens that would that would scratch the
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: as Travis Jones, Um, you know there are there are
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 1: a handful of guys. I just I think tackle probably
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 1: that that's the one that would. Maybe as much as
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: I like Raymond, if they took another offensive lineman right
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 1: now and angry boys, you know what's coming Burn and
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: I like him. I like him, and I'd probably come
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: a rast from the block for right now, I would
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: be a little frustrated. What what if they did go
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: offensive line? Offensive line? They gotta protect Macta, protect him.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: How would that be received? Well, I think that you're
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: kidding me him by him. I like what they're doing,
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 1: protecting Mac Jones, the building the line for the win,
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 1: on the line of scrimmas. Yeah, you know, you gotta
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 1: protective quarterback. You can't move, you gotta make sure you
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: protect them. Chris and Colfax, California. I've been in billwe
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 1: trust guy for a long time, but this offseason is
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: starting to turn me the other way. Just one offseason,
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: that's all it took. Uh this way the way it's
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: starting to turn him the other Okay, we want you
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 1: cut on our break. The way this offseason has been
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 1: approached reminds me a lot of another team I followed
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 1: my entire life, the Sacramento Kings. Other teams are literally
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 1: laughing in our decisions, and we are trying to outsmart
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: everyone else by smashing a square peg into a round hole.
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: This offseason has been atrocious, and we'll get worse when
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: we take a backup tackle with our next pick. Hope
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: we don't begin our sixteen year playoff drought this year.
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: I'll email again next week when I sleep on it
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 1: and am all in on the team again. Wow. I'm
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 1: just surprised that people get to this point on the draft, Like,
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: if you want to talk to me about the end
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: of last season, I'm with you, you know, But people
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 1: get this way on the first day of free agency
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 1: right right now. And that's that's and that's part of
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 1: the fun of it. And I don't want to, you know,
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: discount that. But you know, all these guys, the rookies,
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 1: Like it's as much as you want to get excited
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: about all these guys that have been picked, not by
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: the Patriots, a lot of them are gonna bust. Some
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 1: of them are certainly gonna work out, but a lot
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: of them are gonna bust too. You have to give
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: them a chance, you have to, you know, And that
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 1: goes back to Patriots giving guys a chance that that
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 1: are on their roster. But still I think you got
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 1: to add some defense here coming up soon. Locke in Adelaide.
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah that's right, Yeah, I say that right. I just
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: wanted to let Douce know it's going to be okay.
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: Thank you, Duce. Please join the dark side where we
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: can question, build the GM and be disappointed with his
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 1: draft picks, watching all the guys you like be drafted
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 1: by every other team. You don't have to twist yourself
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 1: into a pretzel defending the Patriots. You listen to the
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 1: show last night, like people like just kind of put
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 1: you into like this box of he loves, he loves,
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 1: and he won't question any I was just as disappointed
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 1: with last night as everybody else. But I just like,
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 1: but people always coming with this and I feel like
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 1: I'm not this stupid Belichick Hank that goes crazy. Well,
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: I'm not a great one, cold, strange, perfect exactly what
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 1: I wanted, Like, listen to what I say and do
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 1: like it's It's just that's what's frustrating. He's like, last night,
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: I'm disappointed by this pick. I said it all in
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 1: the weeks leading up to the draft, that they pick
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: a guard, as I'm gonna be frustrated they pick one.
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 1: I was frustrated. I'm frustrated. Now I'm watching a lot
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 1: of good players go I'm frustrated. You know, I'm already there, guys,
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 1: I'm already there. But I'm not gonna go crazy until
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 1: I get to see these guys play and see how
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 1: it all comes together. Okay, might get back up on
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: the wall, Freddie. A big corner just got taken, Freddy.
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 1: But it wasn't you a Guyante Taylor. Okay, he's the
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 1: second guy on my top hundred that was not outside
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 1: of the top hundred that was taken. Do you got
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 1: you got the Brugler? No, I had his own the Brugler.
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 1: I have my own to my own. No, this is
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: this is not Bob McGain. So on the clock at eighteen,
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 1: Patriots are at twenty two, So we're getting there. We're
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 1: getting close. Let's get back to the aceticket outline. Steve's
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 1: in Miami. What's up, Steve? How well. I got an
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 1: upset stomach today. I think it's the draft. I'm not sure,
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: but I have a statement and then I have a question. First,
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: the statement is I see the Jets going after trading up,
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 1: going up to people that they want. There's a new
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 1: uh term, a new verb I want to say about
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 1: the Patriots. They're doing the mac They're getting mac Jones
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 1: because they waited last year, got mac Jones and it
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 1: seems like they're just waiting it out. Whoever gets left over.
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 1: Hopefully they don't take Matt Riser, the punter with the
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 1: second pick. And the question I have for you, do
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: you think that is falling like he is because of
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 1: his height, no injuries, the Patriots size. The Patriots are
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 1: on the clock. The Kansas City who was right? You
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 1: are right? All right. We don't have any chips to
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 1: give you, but you have right. So that's it's so
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 1: cute though it's Andy Reef. It just played for ye Yeah.
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 1: So we traded down to them and now we're trading
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 1: up with the Chiefs. Yeah yeah, remember that year it
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 1: was like the seventh round the call. I don't think
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 1: they're gonna take a punter here though, not trading up. Yeah,
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 1: I do remember that that year they traded and they
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 1: traded Spot when he was with the Eagles, just so
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 1: they could make a trade. Who's the nuts in this
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 1: pick for us? Is that? I think it makes me
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 1: Larry Guy. I think Larry Guy is there, yeah, in
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 1: his hometown born Guy. All Right, So the NFL dot
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 1: Com doesn't have the trade yet. No, they're just saying
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 1: that they right now, it just says they traded with
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 1: Kansas City and say for what? Okay, No, I mean
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 1: they don't even have the Patriots in the slot yet,
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: and the pick is in the pick is what do
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 1: you think? What do you think Patriots? Who did they target?
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 1: Who did they trade up? Burnd No, No, No, that's
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 1: not the pick. That's not the pick. That's not a pick.
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 1: Wasn't a pick. It's not a pick. I'm gonna stick
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 1: with my my hopes on the Patriots trade. That's gonna
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 1: be my sky More. Okay, I could get behind that.
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 1: See if I don't love him either, Okay, I wouldn't
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 1: be I wouldn't be upset. And that's a guess in
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: case anybody's running to Twitter, I'm just guessing sky More. No,
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 1: we don't know yet or either Sky Moore or Chad Muma. Oh,
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 1: I would really be upset about Chad Mum. Okay, see
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 1: what happens here. But we got what do we got?
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 1: Two days in a row trading with the Chefs? Yeah,
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 1: so that's a fifth round pick the Patriots traded to
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 1: move up four spots. Okay, all right, Christian Harris, Oh
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 1: you know they traded the fifth round pick? Wait more,
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 1: your guy Terek Woolen. Too early, Too early, says Curly.
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 1: But if they it's never too early for to put
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 1: it on the Twitter. But not Tai Kwon Thornton? Is
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 1: that who? They took wide receiver from Baylor? Wow? So
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 1: they go with a position I want, but not the
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 1: player I want? Thanks Bill, Well, if we know something.
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 1: The big twelve is look this guy up? Yeah, you
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 1: off off my radar? All right, let me let's see
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 1: so six two three, one eighty three Miami. Uh, let's
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 1: get the I like it. Overall, Thornton will have a
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 1: tougher time masking his lack of builder playstrink versus NFL competition,
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 1: but his speed plays at any level and his midair
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 1: adjustment skills could be what keep him on an NFL
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 1: roster to eight forty. He ran. This guy's a burner
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 1: very eight, typical patre it's wide receiver to eight. He's
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 1: a fast guy. I like it Sie eight forty. Hey, Fred,
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 1: you said you wanted speed and size. Got both. What's
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 1: his vertical, Paul, what's his vertical? J Thirty six and
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 1: a half or sorry, thirty six and a half at
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 1: the combine, thirty eight and a half at the pro day.
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 1: So he jumped a couple inches higher? What is it third?
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 1: Thirty eight and a half? Broadject out the gym for you. Now,
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 1: my other guy is forty and a half. Okay, well, hey,
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 1: I'll tell Okay. So they took a wide receiver, wide receiver.
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 1: You all said defense, but wide receiver here, I did
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 1: say defense, didn't I? Hey, well, this is we're all
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 1: about speed helping Mack Jones. That is clear. I guess
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 1: it is. I'm to be honest, I didn't. I didn't
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 1: jump into him. Um, based on what I'm reading about him. Now,
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 1: I'm a little I'm a little surprised. I'm a little surprised.
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 1: It's it's kind of a downfield speed guy. Yeah, it's
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 1: a little different than the pature. That's why I said,
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 1: I say a typical page. It's so. Is that a
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: bad thing? No? I don't think so, right, I think
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 1: I'm just who's Oh this is? This is who's Ben?
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 1: Is it Ben Lepper? Is that his name? That's the recipient? Yeah,
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 1: with the wish recipients? Yes, okay? Can we hear this
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 1: bath no no b being told? Making Way says, which
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 1: was to be able to announce this the draft pick
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 1: for his hometown team, the Patriots sixth times, I have
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 1: to battering overcovering like kenya, I know this is gonna
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 1: be a piece of cake. I want to think the
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 1: NFL Robert Crown for making bitch wish come true. Okay, Ben,
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 1: let's make your wish come true. Let's get the Kansas
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 1: City Chiefs have traded the fiftieth pick to the New
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 1: England Patriots. With the fiftieth pick in the twenty twenty
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 1: two NFL Draft, the six times Super Bowl champion New
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 1: England Patriots select Tae Kwon Thornton wide receiver Baylor Oh,
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 1: I like that. Literally pounded the table. He pounded the
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 1: table for Taekwon Thornton and he gave the salute. That's
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 1: how excited all the fans are going to be for
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 1: wide receiver. Okay. I mean the vibe again is like
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 1: a kind of a poor man's Jamison Williams, a little
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 1: bit like a like that kind of skinny I asked
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 1: downfield kind of guy. Yeah, I don't know enough about him.
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah for that, But I mean I I like the
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 1: I what I've been saying about. I think that there's
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 1: a little bit of stubbornness there right right. This is
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 1: an indication he's Okay, let's see if we can get
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 1: a dynamic playmaker. Yeah, I mean, Arlett says a former
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 1: accomplished track star. Thornton is going to be bringing an
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 1: element of speed and big play potential to the table
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 1: right away. So all right, I mean that's it's it's
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 1: some intrigue. I mean, I like guys that have some
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 1: elements to their game that make you think, all right,
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 1: he's got this and it you know at that speed,
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 1: that's great. Will it translate to the to the NFL game.
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 1: We've seen plenty of guys with four three speed get
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 1: to the NFL and not be able to be fast
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 1: football players. Um, but somebody to jump in on and
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 1: check out a little bit off my radars and all
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 1: I will say, it's another guy that's drafted a little
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 1: higher than a little bit most people had him projected.
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 1: So you lost a fifth round pick in the in
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 1: the exchange. So we've we're waiting now on two third
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 1: round picks. Unless they move up into the second, we're
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 1: done with the second round for the page, which I
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 1: do think is a possibility. Sure yeah, all right, Well,
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 1: two catches, nine hundred and forty two yards and ten
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 1: touchdowns in twenty one. Um, that's a good, solid year.
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 1: I think this will this one will probably pleased the
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 1: masses a little bit. And Baylor, I mean they're an
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 1: offensive team right first of all the entire Big twelve conference.
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 1: That's the only thing they could do right score point.
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 1: It's great having college football knowledge. They've actually but they've
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 1: actually changed a lot. If you look at Big twelve scores,
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 1: they look like basketball games sometimes. Yeah, like West Virginia
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 1: versus Baylor type of games. You're like, right, it's literally
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 1: all gas, no breaks, no, nobody plays defense, no, not
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 1: at all. It is funny. I mean, he's I mean
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 1: off my radar, but I haven't really seen him pop
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 1: up at all. And Patriots, you know, I mean look
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 1: at all the reporters and everybody, like similar names keep
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 1: popping up over and over again. This is not one
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 1: of the names that continually popped up. But hey, everybody's
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 1: hot to trot on receivers, so I'm sure that this
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 1: will scratch the itch. Gives you a speed guy to
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 1: watch coming into camp, so I'm happy about that. Ye
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 1: got to see him, though, gotta gotta really kind of
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 1: dive in and get a sense of what exactly how
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 1: he moves and what kind of player is Well, you know,
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 1: Yle Pittsburgh two spots later takes George Pickens. What does
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 1: Pittsburgh do better than anybody they draft? Pretty well? Well
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 1: at what positions? Linebacker, wide, receiver. Just to torture me,
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 1: That is that all it is? Um? Yeah, So listen,
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 1: I always wonder when the Patriots move up to get
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 1: a guy like who in the rooms? Guy it is?
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 1: You know, because it's not always builds guy Bill makes
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 1: the final decision, But who, Like, who is that player's pet?
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 1: You know, who's that? You know? And yeah, I just wonder,
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 1: like Baylor, Okay, where's the connection? I don't know, but
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 1: Jared's did him was in the room? Maybe? Yeah? Uh,
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 1: But along the lines of what I was saying. James Christensen,
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 1: who used to write any Patriots draft, same thing. I mean,
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 1: he does. He's into this as anybody wasn't on my
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 1: list of normal Patriots wide receiver targets. But that's probably
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 1: a good thing. So you know we're all looking for
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 1: see like that's the kind of stuff that But like
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 1: I've already on record, this is a fast guy. I
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 1: like it, Okay, But why is everybody have to say
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 1: I didn't have rated here, but that's probably a good thing.
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 1: Or pff. I saw Doug Kide, he was like one
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 1: ninety two one their bold But you know, Bill saw
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 1: something like why does everybody assume that they're right all
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 1: the every time? Automatic assumption is you are wrong and
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 1: he's right. No, not not. I think it's because it's
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 1: a wide receiver who ran a four to eight. I
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 1: mean I think that's I know the last time we
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 1: took one like that, right, probably Bethel Johnson, but that
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 1: was a long time. My point isn't isn't about this player.
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 1: My point is, why would you like, if you do
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 1: all this work to prepare for the draft, why would
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 1: you just like fall off your conviction? Yeah, and say
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 1: you're wrong because Bill Belichick took him, Yeah, whereas like
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 1: if like the Jaguars took him, you'd say that's why
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 1: they're the Jaguars. Well, I mean, I think it goes
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 1: back to, you know, what we were talking about earlier,
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 1: of that they've got a blind spot a little bit
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 1: for wide receivers that they have. And I think we
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 1: as people who I guess cost play at the draft
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 1: or draft scouting. You you feed off of that and
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 1: you say, well, I think this is the kind of
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 1: guy that they like. They like versatile guys who can
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 1: play a variety of roles within the offense and move
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 1: inside and outside. And you know, usually you're a little
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 1: bit more dismissive of a pure downfield speed guy when
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 1: it seems like the engine of the offense is moving
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 1: guys into place and getting them open. So, you know,
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 1: I think that's what it speaks to a little bit
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 1: of it seems a little bit off the beaten path
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 1: of what they usually take. It. Will it work out?
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean Paul brought up Bethel Johnson.
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 1: I think that's a good yeah, And just the last
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 1: guy that could run like that that I could remember
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 1: it just I think what frustrates people is that they
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 1: look at these players who general consensuses you can get
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 1: them much later, and New England is moving up or
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 1: taking them much higher than they should have, you know,
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 1: and like it's like, Okay, you'll like the guy, great,
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 1: pick him when he's supposed to be picked, and take
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 1: somebody who like Pickens, who's more talented and should be
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 1: picked in that spot, and get the other guy later.
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 1: And that's what And I will say, I'm much more
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 1: willing to overlook a potential reach. Like let's let's say
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 1: that they're right, and this guy was going to be
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 1: available in the third round or or the four. I mean,
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 1: Mike Rees said he was projected as a mid round pick,
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 1: so I don't even know. So let's say that, right,
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 1: I'm more willing to overlook that reach because it's a
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 1: guy with special ability, right, it's a guy that runs
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 1: a four two eight forty, And they're not you know,
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 1: there's not a ton of those guys as opposed to
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 1: a guard, which, as Bill has told me time and
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 1: time again, you can find you know, like, I don't
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 1: think there was something special about Cole Strange that said,
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 1: I know he's not going to go for another round,
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 1: but I gotta take him right whereas there might be
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 1: something special about this guy. Yea, and it's the four
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 1: two eight forty ye Now, whether he can play or not,
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 1: we'll see, yep. I want some of our callers that
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 1: love the receivers to call in to hear what they
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 1: they think about saying right now, no, m y, let's
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 1: go to the phones. Justin's in Virginia. I'm gonna give
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 1: you guys a hot take. I really don't like the
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 1: wide receiver. No, I think he's even worse than Cold Strange.
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 1: That's even worse than the Cold Strange pick. Because the
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 1: thing about the Cold Strange pick is I saw no
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 1: one ranked him above like seventy five, but people did
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 1: mock him in the first two rounds because the the
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 1: um the argument for Cole Strange was that you played
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 1: really good at the Senior Bowl, had a really really
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 1: good combine. Like I want to say it was a
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 1: record broad jump ump for his but like and and
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 1: I can buy that if ye Bill Belichick, if that
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 1: was the top guard on Bill belichick S boards, and
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 1: he said, you know, we got a tech mac. We
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 1: lost these losses interior pieces. We gotta protect mac. I
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 1: can buy somewhere in like the top fifty picks, cold Strange,
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 1: I can buy it. I don't know if this guy
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 1: should have been drafted in the first one hundred and
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 1: fifty picks. Honestly, Like I looked at like twenty five
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 1: different receivers did not see this guy, did not see him.
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 1: Ye see. Now this is where I'm gonna defend it again.
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 1: Like I have a top hundred list and he's here,
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 1: He's one of the four He's he's the fourteenth. This
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 1: is this is Bob McGinn who does this for a living,
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 1: and he's very good at it. And he's got to
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 1: miss his fourteenth wide receiver. I mean, just that's that's
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 1: the last one. I'm near four pole. If you believe
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 1: in it, I'm here. Oh I'm not pumped the brakes. Yeah,
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 1: I am just saying that I would be willing to
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 1: overlook a reach for a guy who has a special skill,
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 1: more so than an offensive lineman, especially in the interior
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 1: offensive lineman. If you look at cold Strange combine numbers,
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 1: he had a really, really good guy. And I'm not
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 1: gonna act like because the guy had a really good
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 1: broad jump that team. He should be drafted in the
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 1: first round. I don't think you should be drafting in
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 1: the first round, but maybe late second I can buy it.
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 1: I can't like. Yeah, And what I'm saying is if
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 1: you you have more intel on the guy though I don't.
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 1: I don't have more intail on him. Alec Pierce. Oh,
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 1: there goes Alec Pierce. That run on. But I appreciate
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 1: everything you guys doing. Be on the line with you guys.
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 1: Take there alright, alright, now the run on wide receivers
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 1: for this year, I'm gonna be like, Okay, who's playing
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 1: better our guy or Alec Pierce. There's gonna be a
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 1: lot of that going on. I mean I'm gonna be
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 1: doing that with Pittsburgh McDuffie, yeah, Pickens, Yeah, I mean
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 1: I hate doing that. But because Pierce is sixty three,
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 1: he runs a four to three. I mean, he's another
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 1: guy that has that type of speed and size. You
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 1: know Pickens too, I mean he was just tough blocking,
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 1: pushing guys into the ground like just and he's throwing
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 1: him out of the club. Some of those kind of
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 1: clips with Pickens coming back from the ACL. Yeah, I
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 1: gotta I gotta check out this. Okay, I'll say it
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 1: looks like Ties from Miami Florida and those guys can ball.
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 1: So what was what was Fred's guy? My first year
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 1: they undrafted Jeff. Jeff Thomas was problem, right, he was,
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 1: oh yeah, Jeff and like like the third week a
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 1: camp for like two practices and right, and that was it. Well,
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 1: you know, you take a fly. But Fred, it was crazy.
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 1: He wasn't the only one. Like the media was like
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 1: did stories every day about this Jeff Thomas and potential,
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 1: and he's like, yeah, I love the U. I mean
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 1: it's just it's got. It's one of the colleges that
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 1: have a mystique a college football missee. Yeah, and what's
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 1: the high school saying? Aquinas thas sweet? It's just a
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 1: factory Paul. He's only twenty one, so yeah, well he's
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 1: he's he's not a step away from social security. Right.
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 1: Speaking of the U, there is a wide receiver there
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 1: that not today pick but like maybe tomorrow pick. But
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 1: technically he transferred from OU. But Rambo, I think Rambo's
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 1: really great. I had a lot of people in my
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 1: mentions about check out Rambo. Rambo check a lot of people.
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 1: He has a lot of fans out there. Um, I
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 1: think he has the speed in the size that Fred wants. Um. Great,
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 1: you know he'll go out there and get it great
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 1: hops as Fred wants. I'd also like a guy who
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 1: can get open you know, it doesn't always have to
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 1: be contested. Yeah, he's great. Uh, let's go to William
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 1: and Phillham. What's up William? We know he would have
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 1: been a good one. I would love to hear what
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 1: he had to say. Yeah, he's just coast. He just
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 1: hung up, hung up. So then we'll go to Oh,
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 1: this is our fellow who, um, you know, was really
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 1: distraught yesterday. John's in Duxbury. What's up John? H Yeah
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 1: I was. I said two things to you guys yesterday.
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 1: You're hope they don't pray it down, and I hope
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 1: they don't take a guy. They did both right, and
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 1: you're still here though. I'm glad to hear your voice. No, no,
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 1: thank god, I am. I'll tell you right now. Uh.
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 1: I was reading a story about Picks and they said
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 1: he's got serious maturity issues. It's been a couple of
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 1: fights down there that suspended a couple of times. So
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 1: I think that's tough. No, you know, focused, I like it. Emotional.
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 1: Pittsburghs used to that football meet a lot to them.
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 1: I like it. Antonio brownis my kind of guy. I
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 1: give them credit though, for trading up. I thought they
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 1: were gonna sit on the hand and be, you know,
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 1: instead of being proactive, being reactive like he usually is.
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 1: So hopefully this guy will work out. Yeah, well, I
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 1: appreciate it. John thinks of the call. Let's look at
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 1: the players that the Patriots have actually traded up to get.
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 1: Would you say that more often than not it was
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 1: a good move. Can you tell me who they have?
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 1: Barre Chandler Jones, Tandler Jones. Yes, yes, Will Fork traded
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 1: up for him. He just fell to them, right, he
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 1: fell to that. Yeah, he felt Daniel Graham. I'm not
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 1: as Daniel Graham is one they traded up for. It
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 1: didn't work. Yeah, well, um, yeah it wasn't great. Yeah,
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I'm lessly interested in the trade ups
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 1: in the second you know, for the first round, the
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 1: trade for they traded up for Gronk right before get
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 1: up for the Ravens. Yeah, when they trade up, they
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 1: know what they're doing. They always know what they're doing.
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 1: Come on, they're gonna have a better reaction that. Well,
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 1: I just gave you what you we're looking for. I
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 1: always know what I wanted you to jump down my throat,
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 1: That's what I was looking for him. I the only
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 1: real I mean, Daniel Graham was a trade up and
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 1: the two in in twenty twelve. Yeah, yeah, I don't really,
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 1: I can't really think of Barmore. Well, I think maybe
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 1: they traded up like a spot for Ty Warren or
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 1: something like that. I don't know. Yeah, I think you're right.
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 1: I don't remember. You're right. Yeah, maybe the Gronk one
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 1: is the best one though. Second round? What are you
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 1: talking about? A ten end of all time? Right? No,
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 1: I know, but it's like like trading up to I
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 1: don't know. You're right. They traded up for a guy
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 1: with back problems that a lot of people thought that's
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 1: the only reason the second round? Yeah, well, what's the
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 1: only reason why he's in the second I also, Patriots
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 1: were one of like three teams that could take them.
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 1: What do you mean that could take them? Like right now?
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 1: The Patriots couldn't make that pick. Why because the coach
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 1: could get fired if it doesn't work. Yeah, because they
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 1: had Brady they could afford to do. No, Belichick was
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 1: in his prime and there's nothing that was going to
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 1: happen that was going to put his job in Jeopards. Ok,
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 1: Like Carolina Panthers couldn't take a guy who had missed
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 1: the whole year and with back surgery, right, Yeah, because
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 1: Matt Rule's gonna get fired if that doesn't pan out. Yeah, well,
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 1: I'm you know when the guy more went to Kansas,
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 1: when they target somebody, they know something, did he? Yeah?
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 1: I like my guy better than Khalil Squire. I don't
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 1: know about this. I don't know about Thorton, about who
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Oh wow, I don't know about him. Really.
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 1: I never thought I would see the day that I
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 1: was more enthusiastic about a paper draft pick than Mike was.
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 1: I never thought two picks in a row where Mike's
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 1: not half Yeah, I mean I'm in a reserve judgment
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 1: until I can really watch him actually play. But just
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 1: you know, going through some research. Now, Yeah, I don't
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 1: know my speed, guys, but even then I can run
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 1: routes though. I remember I remember Paul brought up Bethel
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 1: Johnson and I remember going you know to training camp.
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 1: It might have been even mini camp, and back then
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 1: we could actually get on the field and I was
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 1: in the end zone and he was returning kicks and
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 1: I had never seen anyone get to full speed so
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 1: fast like it was. It was noticeable how quickly he
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 1: got from zero to sixty. But he just it was
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 1: faster than Fred got in that ice cream. Yeah. But
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 1: you know, like he was a consistent player. I mean
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 1: he had his moments as a Patriot. Yeah. His problem
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 1: was not ability and no, it was mental. He didn't
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 1: want to take coaching. Remember what he said, you know
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 1: more if someone tells me what to do, the less
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 1: I want to do it. Right. That's a good trait. Yeah,
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 1: you know that's not good on a team. You know.
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 1: Willie used to bust his balls. Oh yeah, I think
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 1: it's an interesting pick. I'm curious what the what the
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 1: reaction is going to be because the things that I
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 1: see are that he's fast, he's got great speed, and
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 1: that that he can separate. And these are you know,
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 1: constant refrains from the critics of of the Patriots offense
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 1: that they don't have enough speed and that they don't
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 1: have guys that can separate. So on paper, it seems
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 1: like this guy can do that. Now, can he pick
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 1: up the offense? Can he you know, come in and
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 1: contribute immediately with what they have on the depth chart?
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 1: You know, it's it's I mean, wouldn't that be a
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 1: concern for any receiver they picked? Absolutely? But I think
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 1: if I saw him, that's good. Trey McBride's first tight
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 1: end off the board. Wow, So too, do you think
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 1: we'll see a wide receiver every year like this where
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 1: there hasn't been a wide receiver taken Like there's just
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 1: always such a mass of them in the last three
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 1: years and now it's like these random positions keep only
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 1: not random. But but you know, quarterback, Yeah, you kind
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 1: of think that's hand in hand. You talk about seven
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 1: on seven and these guys are learning how to do
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 1: it all the time, and there's gotta be quarterbacks too.
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 1: But somehow you've hit hit a void. I wonder if
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 1: you'll hit avoid with with that with wide receiver position.
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 1: But I'm going into Thornton trying to be with an
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 1: open mind. But I just sometimes I think that these
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 1: this is, this should be what the fans want, right,
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 1: I mean, there might be some people that complain that
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 1: you overdrafted them again, But I think as you get
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 1: into this phase of the draft, it's like you're kind
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 1: of splitting hairs. But here's the other one. Okay, And
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 1: again I think I'm a little higher on Thornton than
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 1: you are. But this will be another referendum because at
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 1: fifty you trade it up and took taekwon Thornton at
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 1: fifty two, George Pickens fifty three, Alec Pierce fifty four.
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 1: Sky more right, this is you're You're gonna have three
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 1: guys to directly compare them to, right, And you know,
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 1: Pittsburgh's gonna have Mitchell Trubisky or Kenny Pickett, probably Trubisky.
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 1: Indie's gonna have what's his face, Matt Ryan, Matt Ryan,
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 1: and Kansas City is gonna have Mahomes, which obviously excus
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 1: it a little bit. Yep um. So your guys should
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 1: be as good as their guys. Yes, you know, maybe
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 1: I'll give I'll give more because of Mahomes. I'll give more,
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 1: you know, the the edge if he has more more catches.
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 1: How's that? I like it? I knew I saw you
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 1: going there, I saw you going there. I let you go.
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 1: But but the other guys in Indian Pittsburgh. You know,
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 1: your guys should be able to do the same as
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 1: their guys. Cowboys are about to get their guy. Oh
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 1: yeah again a big war room. He looks like a doctor,
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 1: evil villain like in the big right, that big star
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 1: above them. We're going to pay you one million. That's
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 1: really not a lot of money these days, Jerry, That's
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 1: that's not a lot. Where's his grandson? I like watching
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 1: his grandson slowly age up as he's always a table
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 1: over there on the left. Wow. The Steelers literally just
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 1: tweeting your food, our picks, picket and pickings. Oh what
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 1: what's that? Pittsburgh tweeted our picks, pick it and pickings. Okay,
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 1: they're taking the draft seriously, picks can pick them? Oh
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 1: my god? All right, uh yeah, cowboys are on the clock.
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 1: The pick is in Tyler Smith. Tyler Smith. They already
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 1: picked him, d e. Tyler Smith. Oh another Tyler Smith.
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 1: We're the fifty six pick in the twenty twenty two
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 1: NFL Draft. The Dallas Cowboys select Sam Williams. So they
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 1: have two what I don't know, what do they have?
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 1: Do they pick? Do they have? Do they select two
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 1: Tyler Smith. I'm saying, now they have two they picked
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 1: two guys on defense. Oh no, Tyler SMI it's a tackle. Okay.
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 1: I wasn't say what in the world he's an offensive tackle. Ye,
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 1: remember I said, Tyrn Smith. Yeah, there you go. Wait,
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 1: the grandsons and cheese off the Wait. No, the graphic
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 1: on the TV does say defensive end. Yeah for this guy.
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 1: This guy, Tyler Smith was Tyler Smith is the first
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 1: round pick they made last night. Yeah. I was like, what,
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 1: I'm surprised for not lighting cigars and like, you know,
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 1: toasting each third guy not on the top, right, Jerry,
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 1: we still have five rounds to go. I think everyone
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 1: just throwing away their tap one hundred lists right now. Grandpa,
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 1: we need more mozzarella sticks. Shot up, Bobby, We're getting
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 1: our guy over here. We're getting our guy. Oh that's fun,
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 1: fun stuff, fun cowboys. I would the Bills. The Bills
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 1: have traded with the Bucks. Maybe the getting a running back. Okay,
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 1: the Bills are on the clock, all right, So I
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 1: think that they haven't picks. It's elim I don't think so, right,
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 1: another piece for them. Maybe let's go see what more
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 1: people And I can't talk. Chris is in Scottsdale. What's up, Chris.
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 1: I don't know what the Bills did. Yeah, it'll never
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 1: get a little, this Sword of God, it will get old.
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 1: Um okay. So Paul, thank God man for you to
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 1: be on this show. Can you talk into the bike?
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 1: I agree, Yeah, you sound like you're really far away
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 1: first to say it. I certainly won't be the last.
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 1: But um okay. And Samara, welcome to the show. Hi.
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 1: Good to have a nice edition. So it's nice to
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 1: have you aboard here. Um okay. So Deuce, I got
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 1: a bone to pick with you, man, and I've been
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 1: doing on it since it was like five years ago
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 1: when I when I called in. Yeah okay, So there
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 1: was some sort of somebody alluded to you know, you
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 1: you know, being a bill honk and you know, things
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 1: like that or whatever. And I think why that happens?
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 1: And I experienced this firsthand with you and and I
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 1: honestly hated it. But it is what it is. Uh,
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 1: it's it's the snide size and the deep breaths and
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 1: the oh, I know, you know, like we're reaching and
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 1: it's this and it's bad. And this is again way
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 1: before the draft. You know, people complaining about the picks
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 1: that he makes and so on and so forth. And
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 1: this is why I say thank God for Paul, because Paul,
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 1: you know, you know, Fred spread it is what it is.
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 1: He's well renowned for it. But Paul literally calls it
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 1: like it is, flat out, like he doesn't kiss anybody's cut.
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 1: He absolutely calls the picks and decisions that we make
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 1: as a team, but they are No, you're right, he's
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 1: always hated the Patriot. No. But but he's just realistic
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 1: and regard and he's a fan and regardless, and he
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 1: agrees with you. Fred shut it for a second. Whoa
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 1: trying to? He was there, He would give me a
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 1: standing out right now in class and dead um. But anyways,
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 1: Fred's listening. So what I'm trying to say, Douce, is
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 1: that it is frustrating from a fan perspective because these
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 1: takes and these frustrations, and you know, as a former
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 1: fan or a fan and former lawyer and what have you,
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 1: that they're famous complaint man, They're they're well renowned complaints
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 1: that we've had for years and years and years under
• 1:58:30
  Speaker 1: this under Bill pooplage. And I gotta tell you something,
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 1: then you know that the reachie for picks, you know,
• 1:58:37
  Speaker 1: the safety that we took up book in the second round.
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 1: Richardson George Richardson or whatever his name was, became about
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 1: Richards Jordan Richardson. Yeah, Richards there you go. Yeah, you
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 1: know it's these trust the picks and and the second
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 1: round reaches and trading down out of the first round
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 1: and he you know, trading great players to other teams. No, no, here,
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 1: you guys have these great players. We're just gonna go
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 1: down and we're gonna take super mediocre guys. We're gonna
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 1: take them well over draft slot and we're just gonna
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 1: do our thing over here. And you could get away
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 1: with it. This is a comment that where you say
• 1:59:06
  Speaker 1: all the time, uh, dues, you could get away with it,
• 1:59:10
  Speaker 1: how and why because you had Brady right and you're
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 1: sick of hearing that. But guess what those are facts. Gack,
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 1: that's the reality of it. I cannot wait until Bill
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 1: Belichick and I thought I would never ever ever say this,
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 1: and you already know where I'm going. I cannot wait
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 1: for the day when Craft finally says, listen, you're absolutely
• 1:59:29
  Speaker 1: guestimating our team. When I spent in five shows Ago
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 1: that we were in shambles. I want that we have
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 1: a quarterback that is not an absolute campus. The rest
• 1:59:39
  Speaker 1: of the team is completely mediocre. We do not have
• 1:59:42
  Speaker 1: any kind of beasts on our team, no star power,
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 1: no nothing from a fan perspective. I'm just gonna tell
• 1:59:47
  Speaker 1: you straight up, when I slip on the channel and
• 1:59:54
  Speaker 1: tackle Central, go on, I'm just gonna say this real quick.
• 2:00:01
  Speaker 1: Can I just interrupt you real quick? Luke Goodecki. Okay,
• 2:00:05
  Speaker 1: So Bill made a comment last night in his press conference,
• 2:00:10
  Speaker 1: and he suggested that Cole Strange wouldn't have been around
• 2:00:15
  Speaker 1: much longer and Tampa Bay had the first pick of
• 2:00:16
  Speaker 1: the second round. Okay, Tampa Bay just traded up three
• 2:00:21
  Speaker 1: or four spots to take a tackle out of Central
• 2:00:23
  Speaker 1: Michigan that a lot of people project as a guard.
• 2:00:26
  Speaker 1: So maybe, maybe, maybe Cole Strange gets taken by Tampa
• 2:00:31
  Speaker 1: Bay at the top of the second round. Good point.
• 2:00:33
  Speaker 1: I doubt it, but it's possible they took They took
• 2:00:35
  Speaker 1: the position, so so I think it's you know, you know,
• 2:00:39
  Speaker 1: this guy was a second according to NFL dot com,
• 2:00:43
  Speaker 1: this guy was a second or third round projection, so
• 2:00:46
  Speaker 1: he went where he was projected ye, Chris. I'm sorry
• 2:00:50
  Speaker 1: didn't get to respond to you on the air, but
• 2:00:51
  Speaker 1: I have questions for you call back this week. Um,
• 2:00:54
  Speaker 1: when did you start hitting Bill Belichick? When did it
• 2:00:57
  Speaker 1: become so miserable for you? That? You know? I like
• 2:01:00
  Speaker 1: because I appreciate a coach and I enjoy watching him
• 2:01:04
  Speaker 1: how he does it. I'm not saying that perfect. Yeah,
• 2:01:07
  Speaker 1: I'm not sitting here and telling you that everything has
• 2:01:09
  Speaker 1: gone great. I know exactly what the state of the
• 2:01:11
  Speaker 1: team is. I agree with you on a lot of
• 2:01:12
  Speaker 1: the points of where it stands right now. But to
• 2:01:14
  Speaker 1: go back into the middle of twenty twelve, two years
• 2:01:18
  Speaker 1: before they won a Super Bowl and complain about their picks, like,
• 2:01:21
  Speaker 1: what do you what is your expectation? Like, he's a
• 2:01:23
  Speaker 1: football coach. I don't I'm not telling you that it
• 2:01:25
  Speaker 1: was all him magic pulling the strings behind the scene.
• 2:01:28
  Speaker 1: But he's a good football coach and I appreciate that,
• 2:01:30
  Speaker 1: and I like watching it, and I don't know how
• 2:01:32
  Speaker 1: it's going to end, but I'm looking forward to watching
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 1: how it does. I'm finding this highly dramatic. What he's
• 2:01:37
  Speaker 1: doing right now is certainly driving me crazy. I'm sure
• 2:01:40
  Speaker 1: brings you excitement, but I ask a question without starting
• 2:01:42
  Speaker 1: an argument. No, but go ahead, probably, Okay, go ahead,
• 2:01:46
  Speaker 1: do it. Well, here's my thing, Like, and I think
• 2:01:50
  Speaker 1: with some people, and I'm not telling you that I'm
• 2:01:51
  Speaker 1: in this camp, but I think some people are starting
• 2:01:54
  Speaker 1: to get in the camp of they think they were
• 2:01:56
  Speaker 1: wrong about Bill Belichick. You're not that good a coach
• 2:02:00
  Speaker 1: according to this guy. Was he like this whole time?
• 2:02:03
  Speaker 1: That's what he feels. Yeah, right, Like so like I've
• 2:02:07
  Speaker 1: enjoyed it, I've watched He's a really good well is he? Yeah? Yes, yes,
• 2:02:11
  Speaker 1: I listen to the player. So you listen to the players,
• 2:02:13
  Speaker 1: not the fans. So you got well, the players owe
• 2:02:15
  Speaker 1: their careers to him. Yeah, but still you listen to
• 2:02:17
  Speaker 1: anybody who comes in who doesn't owe their career to him,
• 2:02:20
  Speaker 1: somebody who comes in and is like the impression that
• 2:02:22
  Speaker 1: they have of him, of what he starts. And I'm
• 2:02:24
  Speaker 1: not telling you that a football coach pulls all the
• 2:02:26
  Speaker 1: magic strings and makes all the magic happen. Like you know,
• 2:02:29
  Speaker 1: I think people think that I give him one hundred
• 2:02:31
  Speaker 1: percent credit, but like I do give him. I think
• 2:02:33
  Speaker 1: a lot of people do. I don't think that you
• 2:02:34
  Speaker 1: do that. I don't I don't think that you're like that.
• 2:02:37
  Speaker 1: I think a lot of people think that he is
• 2:02:40
  Speaker 1: just this can't miss do what, do no wrong coach
• 2:02:44
  Speaker 1: who is responsible. I think people felt people for Brady left.
• 2:02:48
  Speaker 1: I think people felt that Bill was largely responsible for
• 2:02:51
  Speaker 1: the success and I think some people now don't think
• 2:02:53
  Speaker 1: that way anymore. Listen, he's not perfect, but who else
• 2:02:57
  Speaker 1: would you want? We just have a quarterback taken? Was
• 2:03:00
  Speaker 1: that a wide receiver he is throwing? I mean not
• 2:03:02
  Speaker 1: right now? I like and I don't. I'm not gonna
• 2:03:04
  Speaker 1: tell you that it's all gonna work out great and
• 2:03:06
  Speaker 1: don't worry guys like coach Rane is gonna be the
• 2:03:08
  Speaker 1: next All Pro and it's all gonna work out like
• 2:03:09
  Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know, but I think he's I
• 2:03:12
  Speaker 1: think he's a good coach. And I think that the
• 2:03:14
  Speaker 1: players who played with him would tell you the same.
• 2:03:17
  Speaker 1: And if you want to retroactively go back and say
• 2:03:19
  Speaker 1: that he was just an idiot at the wheel who
• 2:03:21
  Speaker 1: somehow struck luck with well, would not just Tom Brady
• 2:03:24
  Speaker 1: get more information some other players. When you get more information,
• 2:03:29
  Speaker 1: doesn't that like impact the So how should have happened? Paul?
• 2:03:32
  Speaker 1: Should he have gone from Tom Brady in twenty nineteen
• 2:03:35
  Speaker 1: to Cam Newton and they should have been in the
• 2:03:37
  Speaker 1: AFC Championship again, and then Mac Jones they should be
• 2:03:39
  Speaker 1: an AFC Championships. Is that what the bar is to
• 2:03:41
  Speaker 1: like say that he's a good coach, Like, it's a
• 2:03:44
  Speaker 1: hard thing to do. You got ninety guys that the
• 2:03:46
  Speaker 1: roster at the start of the year. You've got to
• 2:03:47
  Speaker 1: build a whole team. You gotta get everybody pulling. It's
• 2:03:50
  Speaker 1: really hard to do. And I think people think that,
• 2:03:52
  Speaker 1: like there's this bar that like he I just think
• 2:03:56
  Speaker 1: that people have more seasons now without Brady, that it's
• 2:04:00
  Speaker 1: not a small sample size anymore. It's now up to
• 2:04:04
  Speaker 1: fine seven eight, like eight eight and a half season,
• 2:04:09
  Speaker 1: like eight plus seasons now without Brady, and the and
• 2:04:12
  Speaker 1: the record without him is very mediocre. Again, Like, I
• 2:04:18
  Speaker 1: just think it's worth a discussion, Like I think people
• 2:04:21
  Speaker 1: have been discussing. I think people around here just missing
• 2:04:24
  Speaker 1: as out of hand. No they don't, it's beyond I
• 2:04:26
  Speaker 1: think it's a debate. He believes in them, like I
• 2:04:30
  Speaker 1: listened to ninety eight five when I was driving it today.
• 2:04:32
  Speaker 1: He believes in them, So it's a good pick. Beetle
• 2:04:36
  Speaker 1: and Zoe. Okay, well that's one show. The show right
• 2:04:39
  Speaker 1: after that doesn't it's a raging debate. It's it's not
• 2:04:42
  Speaker 1: like everybody believes one way. You know. I I'm I
• 2:04:47
  Speaker 1: think he's a great coach. I can't think of another
• 2:04:50
  Speaker 1: guy i'd rather have running this team. You know, is
• 2:04:53
  Speaker 1: he perfect? No, but goes back like he's a genius.
• 2:05:00
  Speaker 1: I've never thought he's a gene he's a football coach, Like,
• 2:05:03
  Speaker 1: don't put me in this box of he's an infallible
• 2:05:06
  Speaker 1: genius that everyone was. I said before and I'll say
• 2:05:09
  Speaker 1: it again. I don't put that. But but I feel
• 2:05:11
  Speaker 1: like the caller was acting like, you know, I'm just
• 2:05:13
  Speaker 1: whistling by the graveyard, like I haven't been on the
• 2:05:15
  Speaker 1: show for three years and been Wow, this isn't going
• 2:05:18
  Speaker 1: in a great direction right now. Wow, we didn't force
• 2:05:19
  Speaker 1: the Bills to punt at all. We don't have a
• 2:05:21
  Speaker 1: lot of talent on defense. Like how many times can
• 2:05:23
  Speaker 1: I say these things when people just think that I
• 2:05:25
  Speaker 1: think it's awesome. I think there's different gradients of where
• 2:05:29
  Speaker 1: people so you can't respect and like some people that
• 2:05:33
  Speaker 1: just that's yeah, that's it. He's no good and that's
• 2:05:37
  Speaker 1: the extreme you're you're hearing from some of those now
• 2:05:39
  Speaker 1: because they feel emboldened, you know, because like Paul said,
• 2:05:43
  Speaker 1: there is evidence that, yeah, Tom Brady had something to
• 2:05:46
  Speaker 1: do with this, y you know which And what I'm
• 2:05:49
  Speaker 1: trying to say, which which is kind of like what
• 2:05:51
  Speaker 1: I've always said, is they both each made the other better.
• 2:05:55
  Speaker 1: You know. I used to think it was more Bill. Yeah.
• 2:05:57
  Speaker 1: I think as time is going by, I think I'm wrong. Yeah,
• 2:06:01
  Speaker 1: But again, I I don't think it's that hard to
• 2:06:04
  Speaker 1: that when you analyze something or try to, you know,
• 2:06:08
  Speaker 1: and sometimes you step away you're like, oh, yeah, I
• 2:06:10
  Speaker 1: thought about it this, but I don't think I'm right
• 2:06:11
  Speaker 1: about it. But I would say no one coach has
• 2:06:14
  Speaker 1: ever had the twenty year run that Bill had. And
• 2:06:16
  Speaker 1: I will also say he wouldn't have had it without
• 2:06:19
  Speaker 1: Tom Brady. I think you can say that, you know,
• 2:06:23
  Speaker 1: and and not disparage either Bill or Tom, right, you know,
• 2:06:28
  Speaker 1: like like they both had a hand on it. Bill
• 2:06:32
  Speaker 1: would not have been able to do this with multiple quarterbacks.
• 2:06:35
  Speaker 1: He needed Tom Brady. But that's your but that's your opinion,
• 2:06:37
  Speaker 1: and I think Tom yeah, and I think someone else's
• 2:06:39
  Speaker 1: opinion might be he wouldn't have had a twenty year
• 2:06:41
  Speaker 1: run without Brady. I just said that. I just said that.
• 2:06:46
  Speaker 1: They don't think it was both of them. They think
• 2:06:47
  Speaker 1: it was Brady. But I think that Tom Brady wouldn't
• 2:06:49
  Speaker 1: have had a twenty year run without a head coach.
• 2:06:51
  Speaker 1: You could keep the team together, right, And I think
• 2:06:53
  Speaker 1: people think that he would have. Yeah, I don't, I don't.
• 2:06:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think Tom Brady's the greatest of all time,
• 2:06:58
  Speaker 1: but to he wouldn't think together one of as a
• 2:07:00
  Speaker 1: player coach, Like, I don't know. I don't know if
• 2:07:03
  Speaker 1: that he wouldn't have been this without without Belichick team.
• 2:07:08
  Speaker 1: But I mean, are people gonna tell like, I don't
• 2:07:11
  Speaker 1: believe that Tom Brady with any other coach would have
• 2:07:14
  Speaker 1: had twenty years, six Super Bowls of dominance. I'm not
• 2:07:17
  Speaker 1: gonna say that it was all Bill Belichick. But I
• 2:07:19
  Speaker 1: think he's a good coach, and I appreciate how what
• 2:07:21
  Speaker 1: he's done, how he's turned things over continuously on defense,
• 2:07:26
  Speaker 1: on special teams, how he's won in situations. I take
• 2:07:29
  Speaker 1: nothing away from Brady. I've said it a hundred times.
• 2:07:32
  Speaker 1: I think when it comes down to the nitty gritty
• 2:07:33
  Speaker 1: and the super Bowls. Brady came through every single time.
• 2:07:36
  Speaker 1: That is Tom Brady. But I also think that Bill
• 2:07:39
  Speaker 1: Belichick deserves a little bit of credit. And I don't
• 2:07:42
  Speaker 1: have any tolerance for somebody who's gonna just say Bill
• 2:07:44
  Speaker 1: Belichick's just an idiot who got lucky and happened to
• 2:07:46
  Speaker 1: coach where Tom Brady landed. You look at the Cowboys, right,
• 2:07:49
  Speaker 1: they were set up to win. Jimmy Johnson had them,
• 2:07:53
  Speaker 1: you know, and Jerry couldn't take Jimmy Johnson, you know,
• 2:07:57
  Speaker 1: he was he was getting bigger than I was, so
• 2:07:59
  Speaker 1: gets rid of them. They win one more and then
• 2:08:01
  Speaker 1: they didn't win again forever. Yeah, Right, the Cowboy Cowboys
• 2:08:05
  Speaker 1: when Jerry, you know, Jimmy had their fallout, you know,
• 2:08:09
  Speaker 1: and they won one more and then that was it. Right.
• 2:08:12
  Speaker 1: Do you think that would have happened if Brady was
• 2:08:13
  Speaker 1: the quarterback? No, But I'm just saying that you need
• 2:08:17
  Speaker 1: the structure you need, you can't. You gotta have both.
• 2:08:20
  Speaker 1: Troy Aikman needed destructure, well, but he never won. That's
• 2:08:24
  Speaker 1: what I just said. He needed destructure. Right, Maybe if
• 2:08:27
  Speaker 1: it was Brady, they just would have kept on winning.
• 2:08:29
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying you can you can be the Dallas Cowboys.
• 2:08:31
  Speaker 1: But if you don't have a solid coach and a
• 2:08:34
  Speaker 1: solid quarterback, you're not gonna have a run of twenty
• 2:08:36
  Speaker 1: years like the Patriots had. It's just not gonna happen.
• 2:08:40
  Speaker 1: You need both. I just I don't know why it's
• 2:08:43
  Speaker 1: okay to just say that, like it's definitive, it's fact.
• 2:08:46
  Speaker 1: I just my opinion. But why can't I have my opinion?
• 2:08:50
  Speaker 1: You can, but you're stating it as a fact, not
• 2:08:52
  Speaker 1: as an opinion. You can't do that. You can't have
• 2:08:55
  Speaker 1: twenty years of dominance without But it's never happened before.
• 2:08:59
  Speaker 1: No one's ever done it, that's right. The Patriots did
• 2:09:01
  Speaker 1: it like no no, no one's ever played quarterback with
• 2:09:03
  Speaker 1: the forty four. Yeah, well, I'm just so like to
• 2:09:06
  Speaker 1: get to twenty years. There's a unicorn doing it right now. Yeah,
• 2:09:10
  Speaker 1: I'm And I don't think that a teams traded down
• 2:09:13
  Speaker 1: again the Bills. By the way that Montana State linebacker
• 2:09:18
  Speaker 1: kid Or Anderson went to the Falcons and another guard
• 2:09:20
  Speaker 1: at Ingram LSU guy went to the Vikings run maybe
• 2:09:25
  Speaker 1: there's maybe there's a little bit of a little heated there,
• 2:09:27
  Speaker 1: and that's okay. Hey, I appreciate it. It's you know,
• 2:09:32
  Speaker 1: it's it's fun, it's it's it's you just don't know.
• 2:09:36
  Speaker 1: I used to be a fan. I'm still a fan.
• 2:09:39
  Speaker 1: But I think it's a debate that that it's obviously
• 2:09:42
  Speaker 1: easy to have that you can say, well, how do
• 2:09:43
  Speaker 1: you cut the how do you slice the pie up?
• 2:09:45
  Speaker 1: Who do you give the bigger piece too? You know,
• 2:09:47
  Speaker 1: I just think I have to do that. But but
• 2:09:50
  Speaker 1: but even in that regard for it, like I'm I'm
• 2:09:52
  Speaker 1: okay giving Brady a bigger piece of the pie. But
• 2:09:55
  Speaker 1: I appreciate a good coach and I I and I
• 2:09:57
  Speaker 1: always will appreciate and when a new coach comes in here,
• 2:10:00
  Speaker 1: I'll appreciate him and try to find out what he's
• 2:10:02
  Speaker 1: like and what he likes in the same kind of
• 2:10:04
  Speaker 1: way that I do with Bill. But you know, to
• 2:10:07
  Speaker 1: think that I just assume that it's all going great,
• 2:10:10
  Speaker 1: like come on, like really like it's but it's hard
• 2:10:13
  Speaker 1: to do. So I'm not like grading him against oh
• 2:10:15
  Speaker 1: my god, like he didn't immediately turn it over and
• 2:10:17
  Speaker 1: go right back to the AFC Championship Like that's that's ridiculous.
• 2:10:21
  Speaker 1: John and La says uh In Bob McGinn's Draft Scout
• 2:10:24
  Speaker 1: series that Paul was saying, Uh, this is what he
• 2:10:27
  Speaker 1: said about Tae Kwon Thornton. He's a big play threat
• 2:10:30
  Speaker 1: waiting to happen. He's a better version of Darius Slayton
• 2:10:33
  Speaker 1: or Will Fuller what Henry Henry Ruggs was. He's got
• 2:10:38
  Speaker 1: that caliber impact. But this guy can actually run routes
• 2:10:42
  Speaker 1: so well. Yeah, and and and I would be surprised
• 2:10:47
  Speaker 1: if they took a guy who couldn't have some route
• 2:10:49
  Speaker 1: savvy to him, a guy who's just a pure straight
• 2:10:52
  Speaker 1: down the field. I just when I see a guy
• 2:10:54
  Speaker 1: that is they say track athlete, it immediately because I
• 2:10:59
  Speaker 1: think that they grab to take towards quote unquote football players,
• 2:11:02
  Speaker 1: guys who you know come from that, not guys who
• 2:11:05
  Speaker 1: maybe your speed, run down the track first type guys.
• 2:11:09
  Speaker 1: But I'm interested to jump in see what he's like.
• 2:11:12
  Speaker 1: I'm very curious to see how the how the fan
• 2:11:15
  Speaker 1: reaction is because I feel like this is the the
• 2:11:18
  Speaker 1: type of player that a lot of people have been
• 2:11:20
  Speaker 1: longing for for this offense, and we'll see what kind
• 2:11:23
  Speaker 1: of difference it makes it. You know, if Max's able
• 2:11:26
  Speaker 1: to develop some synergy with him, if he really has
• 2:11:29
  Speaker 1: that field stretching ability. It's it's going to open up
• 2:11:32
  Speaker 1: a lot of things for them. So it's an important
• 2:11:33
  Speaker 1: part of an offense. If if you could be the
• 2:11:36
  Speaker 1: end for maybe not this year, but I mean, I
• 2:11:40
  Speaker 1: think he's done this shot this year. But but but
• 2:11:44
  Speaker 1: that's what I like. I mean, that's probably that's a
• 2:11:46
  Speaker 1: great point, Paul. I mean, Aglare, this is his last year.
• 2:11:49
  Speaker 1: You bring Thornton in, learn, learn the offense a little bit,
• 2:11:52
  Speaker 1: maybe get his feet wet, and then Aglare goes and
• 2:11:54
  Speaker 1: then he takes that primary outside receiver spot. If you
• 2:11:58
  Speaker 1: if you stop trying to fight me, you'll realize there's
• 2:12:00
  Speaker 1: a lot of insights. Kent two NFL draft, the Cincinnati
• 2:12:06
  Speaker 1: Bengals select Cam Taylor Bret Nebraska. I liked him, uh,
• 2:12:13
  Speaker 1: Charles writes in normally I agree with Mike, but he's
• 2:12:16
  Speaker 1: making a bit of a straw man with I'm not
• 2:12:19
  Speaker 1: gonna take it with people saying he's an idiot who
• 2:12:21
  Speaker 1: got lucky. I think you guys are looking at this
• 2:12:24
  Speaker 1: a bit too black and white. It's not that people.
• 2:12:26
  Speaker 1: That's kind of the point I was trying to make, Like,
• 2:12:28
  Speaker 1: I don't think he has to be an idiot who
• 2:12:30
  Speaker 1: got lucky rights to have been. That's why I said
• 2:12:33
  Speaker 1: there's gradients and there's a right. Like I think that
• 2:12:35
  Speaker 1: he's proven to be a competent NFL head coach without
• 2:12:38
  Speaker 1: Tom Brady. Competent. Yes, that's what he is. Without Tom Brady, competent.
• 2:12:42
  Speaker 1: It's not that people think it's a trash coach or
• 2:12:45
  Speaker 1: an idiot at the wheel. As Mike said, the discussion
• 2:12:48
  Speaker 1: is really if he's the best coach of all time,
• 2:12:50
  Speaker 1: head and shoulders above his peers, or if that aura
• 2:12:54
  Speaker 1: is the result of Tom. I think it's skews towards Tom.
• 2:12:57
  Speaker 1: While Bill is still an excellent coach, it's just that
• 2:13:00
  Speaker 1: the game is won by players. Bill can be a
• 2:13:03
  Speaker 1: great defensive coach, but can be a week GM and
• 2:13:07
  Speaker 1: having a five record without Brady shows that it's likely
• 2:13:10
  Speaker 1: that Brady was the one pushing the Patriots to the
• 2:13:13
  Speaker 1: greatest dynasty in history. So yeah, I think I think
• 2:13:21
  Speaker 1: he's so. Brugler said that he has thin wrists. What
• 2:13:24
  Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever heard Rits thin wristed weekly
• 2:13:30
  Speaker 1: who had a bar, a metal bar in his He
• 2:13:33
  Speaker 1: was another one that you tapped as a prow and
• 2:13:38
  Speaker 1: the skinniest rist. Do you remember the draft? Because was
• 2:13:43
  Speaker 1: wrong on this one? When Fred who's wrong more than me?
• 2:13:46
  Speaker 1: Me and Charlie Castle although Charlie Castly had something right
• 2:13:50
  Speaker 1: the other Oh you'll be hearing about that when we
• 2:13:53
  Speaker 1: have our Pats from the Past podcast is released. Gerard
• 2:13:57
  Speaker 1: Mayo said something about the only guy who had it
• 2:13:59
  Speaker 1: was was Charlie Castley. Oh, the only guy who had
• 2:14:02
  Speaker 1: it right about his draft? Oh? Really? Yeah? Wow. He's
• 2:14:06
  Speaker 1: also got tiny hands, tiny hands, small wrists. What what
• 2:14:10
  Speaker 1: sized hands does he have? Hate in the quarter? Oh?
• 2:14:13
  Speaker 1: That are that is small for a receiver? Yeah? Yeah,
• 2:14:17
  Speaker 1: oh m a lot of body cast think I've ever
• 2:14:20
  Speaker 1: heard thin risk No, I know that that that stuck
• 2:14:23
  Speaker 1: out to me. I mean he had the measures. I
• 2:14:24
  Speaker 1: didn't even know they measured the wrists. Yeah, because you know,
• 2:14:28
  Speaker 1: when he comes here, I feel like I'm gonna be
• 2:14:30
  Speaker 1: like getting's getting They're like, well, that's that's really small.
• 2:14:34
  Speaker 1: He like, we're gonna save tape with you. He shakes
• 2:14:37
  Speaker 1: hands like this, you know, comes over the top. Sorry, taking,
• 2:14:41
  Speaker 1: I think he's taking. Tamara is listening to him talk
• 2:14:44
  Speaker 1: right now. I think it is. She's probably gonna have
• 2:14:45
  Speaker 1: to sit with him tomorrow if he comes in, Yeah,
• 2:14:49
  Speaker 1: get him on a plane from I assume he's gonna
• 2:14:51
  Speaker 1: be here tomorrow, so we'll get to uh maybe a
• 2:14:54
  Speaker 1: person and maybe the other picks that where he is
• 2:14:55
  Speaker 1: he's in Florida. I think I think he's from in Uh.
• 2:15:00
  Speaker 1: Let's go to Neil and work on the A sticking
• 2:15:03
  Speaker 1: up line? What's up Neil? Hey, guys, I really wish
• 2:15:07
  Speaker 1: the past drafted George Pickens tonight. I mean, I think
• 2:15:10
  Speaker 1: he's a better here. I get that type one fast,
• 2:15:13
  Speaker 1: I get that. I just hope he's not a type
• 2:15:15
  Speaker 1: one Underwood. I mean the name, I get that. But also, um,
• 2:15:20
  Speaker 1: fun fact if you didn't know, he also wore nine
• 2:15:22
  Speaker 1: eighty one in college. Bethel Johnson were eighty one here
• 2:15:25
  Speaker 1: and Bethel Johnson were nine in college too. M do
• 2:15:30
  Speaker 1: not make me feel better, right, I'm a little scared.
• 2:15:33
  Speaker 1: Although he had that catching though, that one catch? Yeah?
• 2:15:36
  Speaker 1: How was that that game? Freezing? When you were a fan?
• 2:15:39
  Speaker 1: When ye back when fast Dance? Thanks for the call, Um,
• 2:15:44
  Speaker 1: Let's go to Bill and DC. Hey Bill, everyone, great
• 2:15:48
  Speaker 1: draft show as usual, Thank you, thank you, and tomorrow,
• 2:15:53
  Speaker 1: welcome aboard. So happy to have you here. Hi, glad
• 2:15:56
  Speaker 1: to be here. So um, I read something pretty interesting
• 2:16:00
  Speaker 1: on a of All Things Cleveland Brown's blog about the
• 2:16:04
  Speaker 1: Earhart Perkins systems and why maybe it's so hard for
• 2:16:09
  Speaker 1: wide receivers to pick it up England. Yeah, but I
• 2:16:12
  Speaker 1: might share it if that's okay. Sure. So I guess
• 2:16:15
  Speaker 1: the idea is and I'm assuming this acts is an
• 2:16:18
  Speaker 1: accurate breakdown. But I guess the issue is that this
• 2:16:21
  Speaker 1: system is modular in a way that other ones aren't.
• 2:16:24
  Speaker 1: So like in the West Coast offense, you know, every
• 2:16:28
  Speaker 1: play has a formation, protection scree scheme and then routes.
• 2:16:32
  Speaker 1: But in our system you mix and match the module,
• 2:16:35
  Speaker 1: so you have like a formation module, a protection call,
• 2:16:39
  Speaker 1: and then a route concept not an actual route. So like,
• 2:16:43
  Speaker 1: for example, you know whoever is the outside play wide receiver,
• 2:16:48
  Speaker 1: tight end, running back, doesn't matter who it is, they
• 2:16:50
  Speaker 1: run a fourteen yard incut and the next player inside
• 2:16:53
  Speaker 1: again whoever it is, runs a ten yard curl. So
• 2:16:56
  Speaker 1: the benefit, I guess is that you can very quickly
• 2:17:00
  Speaker 1: these calls line scrimmage. You can run a temple if
• 2:17:02
  Speaker 1: you want to. You can flex out and just change
• 2:17:05
  Speaker 1: the protection, just change a route scheme, whatever you want.
• 2:17:08
  Speaker 1: Some like Brady can like on the fly just bam bam, bam,
• 2:17:12
  Speaker 1: bam bam, make one word call and quickly change like
• 2:17:15
  Speaker 1: a portion that's happening. Okay, And no, I mean that
• 2:17:20
  Speaker 1: that makes sense. You know, we've been told that. You know,
• 2:17:23
  Speaker 1: it's in those line of scrimmage pre snap calls or
• 2:17:27
  Speaker 1: what makes you know the passing game happen and the
• 2:17:31
  Speaker 1: fact that Brady had done it for so long, like
• 2:17:33
  Speaker 1: it was second nature to him. But you know, and
• 2:17:37
  Speaker 1: that could be true. But I will go back to
• 2:17:39
  Speaker 1: last year and I will listen to what other teams
• 2:17:43
  Speaker 1: said about the Patriots in that they were pretty easy
• 2:17:46
  Speaker 1: to defend. And I think that last year anyway, they
• 2:17:50
  Speaker 1: still might have the same offense, but they didn't get
• 2:17:53
  Speaker 1: to like deep into the playbook last year. I mean,
• 2:17:56
  Speaker 1: they were still on chapter one and two for Mac.
• 2:17:59
  Speaker 1: You know, it's gonna take them a little while to
• 2:18:02
  Speaker 1: really if if you're right, you know with the Perkins
• 2:18:05
  Speaker 1: air Heart offense, if you're right there, uh, Bill, then
• 2:18:09
  Speaker 1: it's gonna take at least a few years for Mac
• 2:18:12
  Speaker 1: to fully you know, be able to run that the
• 2:18:15
  Speaker 1: way it's supposed to be run. Yeah. Sure, I mean,
• 2:18:17
  Speaker 1: but I think I think the bigger piece that that
• 2:18:19
  Speaker 1: that I don't think he really touched upon that, that
• 2:18:21
  Speaker 1: is the number of option routes that they have right
• 2:18:23
  Speaker 1: and on the site adjustments that you make after the snap. Um,
• 2:18:28
  Speaker 1: you know, totally right on on all the concepts and everything.
• 2:18:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's not like a you know a nine
• 2:18:32
  Speaker 1: one one or you know whatever your numbered system where
• 2:18:34
  Speaker 1: it's easy, all right, that's the route and running. So
• 2:18:36
  Speaker 1: but and that's a lots on and like and like
• 2:18:39
  Speaker 1: a lots on the wide receiver to recognize that whether
• 2:18:42
  Speaker 1: it's a hand signal or a blank or whatever is looking. Yeah,
• 2:18:46
  Speaker 1: I mean we saw it a lot with Brady and
• 2:18:48
  Speaker 1: Welker and and Edelman and Moss and all these guys
• 2:18:51
  Speaker 1: with the high Football IQ. They made this thing click.
• 2:18:55
  Speaker 1: And plus you can move guys, you know, tight end
• 2:18:57
  Speaker 1: wide receiver running back even you can move them the
• 2:19:00
  Speaker 1: different spots and have them right run the same you know,
• 2:19:02
  Speaker 1: route combination, so you can you know, dress plays up.
• 2:19:05
  Speaker 1: It looks different all of a sudden, it's you know,
• 2:19:07
  Speaker 1: Gronk and James White out there. The next time it's uh,
• 2:19:10
  Speaker 1: you know, two wide receivers. So yeah, no, it's it's
• 2:19:12
  Speaker 1: it's accurate. It's it's part of what is you know,
• 2:19:15
  Speaker 1: difficult about hearing what they run and makes you wonder
• 2:19:18
  Speaker 1: how do things change after Josh McDaniels. Yeah, but I guarantee,
• 2:19:20
  Speaker 1: like even in Brady's first year, they weren't running this
• 2:19:24
  Speaker 1: offense to it's full of course capacitor. And then you
• 2:19:27
  Speaker 1: know what I'm trying to say is, don't make excuses
• 2:19:30
  Speaker 1: for these wide receivers, you know last year or whatever.
• 2:19:34
  Speaker 1: You know we've heard playing it over the last couple
• 2:19:36
  Speaker 1: of years of Cam Newton calling a calculus you know,
• 2:19:38
  Speaker 1: I mean NFL players who have been around I mean,
• 2:19:41
  Speaker 1: and maybe that's a bad example, right, he's got COVID
• 2:19:45
  Speaker 1: and said he claimed that they changed the whole playbook
• 2:19:48
  Speaker 1: on that. That's a bad example by me. I take
• 2:19:52
  Speaker 1: more about it's more about it's more than talent. Like
• 2:19:56
  Speaker 1: I agree with you this, No, they didn't run the
• 2:19:58
  Speaker 1: same offense and oh one, but that had as much
• 2:20:01
  Speaker 1: to do with Brady's and experience as it did the
• 2:20:02
  Speaker 1: talent around them. Sure, they played in a much different
• 2:20:05
  Speaker 1: style and a much different style of game. Yeah. Yeah,
• 2:20:07
  Speaker 1: And and really the U and really the original origination
• 2:20:11
  Speaker 1: of the system more like you know, run the run
• 2:20:14
  Speaker 1: the score, was it past the score, run to win?
• 2:20:16
  Speaker 1: That was you know, more that, but but much more
• 2:20:19
  Speaker 1: power running than it is now. Where you know, at
• 2:20:22
  Speaker 1: certain points they went to spread, they went to the
• 2:20:24
  Speaker 1: hurry up, the one word off the you know, the
• 2:20:26
  Speaker 1: one one play what is it, the one word no
• 2:20:28
  Speaker 1: huddle offense that they got famous foreign like twenty eleven
• 2:20:31
  Speaker 1: when they put the hammer down because everybody was going
• 2:20:33
  Speaker 1: to have you know, shorten training camps that we talked about.
• 2:20:35
  Speaker 1: Um yeah, there's there's wrinkles within, but the system itself
• 2:20:39
  Speaker 1: is the same now that that would see. I found
• 2:20:42
  Speaker 1: that really interesting in one of the Brady things, one
• 2:20:43
  Speaker 1: of the man in the arenas, when they were talking
• 2:20:45
  Speaker 1: about that. Um just they decided to really step it
• 2:20:49
  Speaker 1: up in terms of the tempo. But the Perkins air
• 2:20:53
  Speaker 1: heart system I don't think is like overly complicated. I
• 2:20:58
  Speaker 1: think it's reliant on specific ability. Yeah, and I think
• 2:21:03
  Speaker 1: there's been times where they've been without that ability, and
• 2:21:05
  Speaker 1: those are some of the years that the offense hasn't
• 2:21:07
  Speaker 1: been quite as dynamic. Right now, it's as much to
• 2:21:10
  Speaker 1: do with the quarterback as anything else. Right He's got
• 2:21:12
  Speaker 1: to look, he's got to get some experience, and I
• 2:21:14
  Speaker 1: think part of it fall part of it too, like
• 2:21:15
  Speaker 1: would they appeal with Kyle Phillips or those are the
• 2:21:18
  Speaker 1: kind of receivers I'm kind of into. Is that they
• 2:21:20
  Speaker 1: can run those option routes really well. And Edelman knowing
• 2:21:23
  Speaker 1: exactly where to go and stop on a dime and
• 2:21:26
  Speaker 1: get out. I mean, you're open every time, you know
• 2:21:28
  Speaker 1: what you're doing, and you have that quick It does
• 2:21:30
  Speaker 1: require that underneath guy. You gotta have the move the
• 2:21:33
  Speaker 1: chains guy. You know. Um, I'm going to be really
• 2:21:37
  Speaker 1: interested to see that if Mac needs that slot guy
• 2:21:42
  Speaker 1: like Brady Dante says he does. No, I know, but
• 2:21:45
  Speaker 1: I'm curious, well that guy right now. But I'm gonna
• 2:21:50
  Speaker 1: be curious to see if if Mac gets a guy
• 2:21:55
  Speaker 1: like Edelman, is he is effective with it with that
• 2:21:58
  Speaker 1: as as other guys work. Yeah, because I don't think
• 2:22:01
  Speaker 1: it's easy to do that. No. Tim and West Virginia says,
• 2:22:06
  Speaker 1: my wife is five to seven ways one hundred and
• 2:22:08
  Speaker 1: fifteen pounds. Her wrist is six and a quarter. That
• 2:22:11
  Speaker 1: guy has very thin wrist. Dainty. Even speaking of Thornton,
• 2:22:16
  Speaker 1: I just popped into oh yeah, I'm here to report
• 2:22:20
  Speaker 1: that one He attributes his speed to running track in
• 2:22:23
  Speaker 1: high school. He said that's where he really developed the
• 2:22:27
  Speaker 1: four two that we saw in the combine, I mean
• 2:22:30
  Speaker 1: in the combine. He also said that Bill Belichick is
• 2:22:33
  Speaker 1: very similar to Baylor football in the sense he's a
• 2:22:35
  Speaker 1: big process guy and that they're talked a lot about
• 2:22:38
  Speaker 1: trust in the process, and that is the vibe that
• 2:22:40
  Speaker 1: he got from his conversations with coach Belichick. He also
• 2:22:44
  Speaker 1: said he thinks Mac Jones is a stud and he
• 2:22:47
  Speaker 1: also loves that he's a Florida guy. He was asked
• 2:22:50
  Speaker 1: about how living and growing up in South Florida, I'm
• 2:22:52
  Speaker 1: playing football in stats Florida attributed to his success and
• 2:22:56
  Speaker 1: similar to what I brought up earlier, Florida guys are
• 2:22:58
  Speaker 1: a big deal. There's a lot of competition there, he said.
• 2:23:00
  Speaker 1: There's so much going on around you. There's so much
• 2:23:03
  Speaker 1: adversity around you that you have to grow up so quickly.
• 2:23:06
  Speaker 1: And just like football, there's so much adversity. You can
• 2:23:08
  Speaker 1: only control what you can control. And that's really helped
• 2:23:11
  Speaker 1: him um be the football player. I saw how many
• 2:23:15
  Speaker 1: years did he play at Baylor? Four he was there?
• 2:23:19
  Speaker 1: So was he? How long is Matt was Matt rule
• 2:23:21
  Speaker 1: there when he was probably, yeah, you would have been there.
• 2:23:24
  Speaker 1: That's yeah, because this is rules. What the third Yeah.
• 2:23:27
  Speaker 1: Also another thing is to note which I really liked.
• 2:23:30
  Speaker 1: When someone asked how he would describe himself, he said
• 2:23:33
  Speaker 1: his first word was coachable. Yeah, and there it is.
• 2:23:38
  Speaker 1: Also that was the first thing he said about this process.
• 2:23:42
  Speaker 1: Dante Adams, Davanta Adams is his role model. He did
• 2:23:45
  Speaker 1: say that a good one and a half with Paul
• 2:23:47
  Speaker 1: What's so funny? Coachable? That was his first describe yourself coachable,
• 2:23:52
  Speaker 1: and then his second one was was versatile. He said,
• 2:23:57
  Speaker 1: I'm willing to come in here and learn and change
• 2:23:59
  Speaker 1: my game if I need too. What does that process mean?
• 2:24:02
  Speaker 1: It seems like one of those nebulous things. It's like,
• 2:24:04
  Speaker 1: I'm all about the process. Trust the processs wrong? Yeah. Also,
• 2:24:10
  Speaker 1: speaking of we keep talking about guys being drafted too high,
• 2:24:14
  Speaker 1: too low, he that he was asked where he thought
• 2:24:17
  Speaker 1: he should have been drafted. He said he wasn't really
• 2:24:19
  Speaker 1: concerned with where where I was, but he said he
• 2:24:22
  Speaker 1: did expect to be a day two guys. Okay, James
• 2:24:25
  Speaker 1: Cook running back, Joja Dalvin's brother, is it yep ye
• 2:24:28
  Speaker 1: going to the Buffalo. I liked him as a James
• 2:24:31
  Speaker 1: White kind of replacement. Let James Cook. I think Duce
• 2:24:34
  Speaker 1: might go over on the big board this year, and
• 2:24:36
  Speaker 1: that's gonna hurt. The Chiefs also took the safety Brian Cook,
• 2:24:42
  Speaker 1: so too many cooks in the kitchen hurt as much
• 2:24:45
  Speaker 1: as it's gonna when when you're gonna have to listen
• 2:24:47
  Speaker 1: to me a whole year about it, Well, I mean,
• 2:24:50
  Speaker 1: you talk constantly about how great I did the first
• 2:24:52
  Speaker 1: two years. I'm sure it'll be balanced right. Last pick
• 2:24:54
  Speaker 1: in the second round coming up here too. I have
• 2:24:56
  Speaker 1: to I have to be honest. It seems like I
• 2:24:58
  Speaker 1: love it. I'd love to credit you for for all
• 2:25:00
  Speaker 1: the hits that you had in the first two years,
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  Speaker 1: just not aware of them. So I don't. I don't.
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  Speaker 1: I don't blow my trumpet that much. Um tomorrow. I
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  Speaker 1: just want to go back to you know the call.
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  Speaker 1: How did he sound that? He sound like confident? Like
• 2:25:16
  Speaker 1: or fast? Was he one of the you know those
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  Speaker 1: times it sounds like something the small risks? But was
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  Speaker 1: was he was? My wrists are small, so I really can't.
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  Speaker 1: Did you have you measured them? Do you have a
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  Speaker 1: measurement on them? Can we we should, we should do?
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  Speaker 1: Can we get it? Do we have a Canamar's got
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  Speaker 1: bigger rist? Yeah? Yeah, Okay, I have small wrists. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's why I could never be an elite wide receiver. There.
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  Speaker 1: What can you say if you if you can touch
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  Speaker 1: like the when you grasp your wrist, that's the size
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  Speaker 1: of your heart or something. Isn't there some sort of
• 2:25:47
  Speaker 1: like correlation between sounds like a like Owen Wilson and
• 2:25:50
  Speaker 1: wedding crashers? Yeah, I'm not buying that, um Ross and Scotland.
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  Speaker 1: I want to start an argument, so I'll give it
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  Speaker 1: a shot. Oh awesome without Brady? Is there a point
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  Speaker 1: in having build a coach anymore? When Bill the GM
• 2:26:05
  Speaker 1: gets in the way, Hopefully this makes Mike's head explode?
• 2:26:09
  Speaker 1: It could? I don't. I mean, we're gonna find out
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  Speaker 1: this fall, I think. I mean, that's that's the truth.
• 2:26:15
  Speaker 1: I mean, the last three years, thinks have not ended
• 2:26:18
  Speaker 1: well in any of those seasons, and you had a
• 2:26:21
  Speaker 1: pretty good draft last year so far two two NFL
• 2:26:25
  Speaker 1: draft bus the Bronco selects Nick Bonito, Oklahoma. Uh, we'll see,
• 2:26:34
  Speaker 1: we'll see. I mean, you know, it's it's they're up
• 2:26:36
  Speaker 1: against it. Right now, and the AFC is awesome, the
• 2:26:39
  Speaker 1: AFC East is all getting better, and so he's got
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  Speaker 1: to prove it. I mean he's got to prove it.
• 2:26:44
  Speaker 1: And that's what football is. Every year, you got to
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  Speaker 1: prove it. And he's no different. And I think he
• 2:26:48
  Speaker 1: knows that. We'll see Chris with a T I A.
• 2:26:52
  Speaker 1: N says. We could talk about it all day, like
• 2:26:55
  Speaker 1: Deuce just said, who gets a bigger piece of the pie?
• 2:26:58
  Speaker 1: Bill has proven to be the best code ever with Brady,
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  Speaker 1: and as Tony Soprano once said to Christopher, you you're
• 2:27:05
  Speaker 1: average at best without Brady. The longer Tom plays and succeeds,
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  Speaker 1: the more average Bill looks unless he starts putting together
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  Speaker 1: thirteen thirteen or fourteen and three seasons with deep playoff fronts.
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  Speaker 1: is the twenty twenty two Patriots Unfiltered Draft Show. Welcome
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• 2:32:39
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• 2:32:42
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• 2:32:45
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  Speaker 1: at two pm. So we'll catch up then with everyone.
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  Speaker 1: Jared and Virginia writes in I think these draft shows
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  Speaker 1: are the closest that the rest of you get to
• 2:33:08
  Speaker 1: see what Fred goes through all season, with kersh words,
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  Speaker 1: hearing the fans emotions in real time while the event
• 2:33:14
  Speaker 1: is happening. There have been many times when Fred will
• 2:33:16
  Speaker 1: say the fans think something and Paul will question where
• 2:33:19
  Speaker 1: he's hearing it because it's not showing up on radio shows.
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  Speaker 1: The answer is that Fred gets thousands of fans reactions
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  Speaker 1: play by play, communicating with him in real time, and
• 2:33:29
  Speaker 1: it's a different and unique viewpoint. It's true, it is.
• 2:33:32
  Speaker 1: It's knee jerk, right, you know. But I also often say,
• 2:33:37
  Speaker 1: like when I say that no one is doing something
• 2:33:39
  Speaker 1: like everyone is saying something. I don't literally mean zero
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  Speaker 1: in everybody like, I mean like, that's not really a
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  Speaker 1: thousands you have, Fred So out of tens of thousands,
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  Speaker 1: if he has a couple of guys that have crackpot
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  Speaker 1: things and one fire Bill Belichick in the middle of
• 2:34:01
  Speaker 1: the second quarter. Yeah, again, I say no one wants
• 2:34:05
  Speaker 1: to fire Belichick. I'm sure that there is like five
• 2:34:08
  Speaker 1: people out there that would legitimately like to fire Belichick.
• 2:34:11
  Speaker 1: I don't mean literally zero. The New York Giants select
• 2:34:16
  Speaker 1: Josiah A. Zudu guard North Carolina. So that's the first
• 2:34:22
  Speaker 1: pick of the third round. No third pick of the
• 2:34:26
  Speaker 1: third round. Yeah. The Jags went with Luke Fortner, center
• 2:34:30
  Speaker 1: from Kentucky, and the Vikings took a linebacker, Brian Asamoa. Okay, Oklahoma.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Nathan writes in He's from Monterey, Mexico. Hope
• 2:34:40
  Speaker 1: you're keeping the energy up during the draft, Paul, Sorry
• 2:34:43
  Speaker 1: about the complainer comment yesterday. It was meant to be
• 2:34:45
  Speaker 1: tongue in cheek. You're awesome. Keep it up. I don't
• 2:34:48
  Speaker 1: know if you guys have already discussed this, but I
• 2:34:51
  Speaker 1: thought we were discussing to Kobe Dean as an option
• 2:34:53
  Speaker 1: for our first round pick, any idea why he's fallen
• 2:34:56
  Speaker 1: to the third round health And we talked a little
• 2:34:59
  Speaker 1: bit at the top up of the show about extensive
• 2:35:02
  Speaker 1: health issues and the fact that no one's taken them
• 2:35:05
  Speaker 1: tells me that dis validity to that. Yeah, it's not
• 2:35:07
  Speaker 1: just the size. It is surprising though, what I mean,
• 2:35:10
  Speaker 1: it's just it goes to show everybody wants to talk
• 2:35:12
  Speaker 1: about where everybody's supposed to be drafted. Okay, pretty much
• 2:35:15
  Speaker 1: every single person that did a mock draft of hiding
• 2:35:20
  Speaker 1: to Kobe Dean. So just take it all with a
• 2:35:22
  Speaker 1: green AsSalt about where everybody's supposed to go. There's other
• 2:35:25
  Speaker 1: information and they could still get them right. But if
• 2:35:27
  Speaker 1: you look at it, I think we had twenty seven
• 2:35:30
  Speaker 1: out of thirty two in the first route. That's not
• 2:35:32
  Speaker 1: that's remarkable, that's not bad. And we had a handful
• 2:35:35
  Speaker 1: of direct hits in a year, a specific year that
• 2:35:38
  Speaker 1: was wacky exactly, that included a lot of trades. I'm
• 2:35:41
  Speaker 1: gonna take solace in that. If my big board falls
• 2:35:43
  Speaker 1: on its face this year, Paul Uh, Let's see David
• 2:35:47
  Speaker 1: in Portland, Maine, seems to me that Taekwon Thornton compares
• 2:35:50
  Speaker 1: favorably to the wide receiver taking a thirty four Christian Watson.
• 2:35:54
  Speaker 1: Tai Kwon is faster, both are tall, I would agree,
• 2:35:57
  Speaker 1: and Tai Kwon seems to be more skilled and played
• 2:35:59
  Speaker 1: better against better competition. What am I missing? I don't
• 2:36:03
  Speaker 1: know about the better played. I don't know if he
• 2:36:05
  Speaker 1: played better, but he definitely played against better competition, and
• 2:36:08
  Speaker 1: I think there's a comparison there. Yeah. I think Watson's bigger, right,
• 2:36:11
  Speaker 1: but probably a little bigger and probably did a little more.
• 2:36:14
  Speaker 1: It seems like, I mean, just that's why I don't
• 2:36:16
  Speaker 1: know about the better part. Yeah, George says he's another
• 2:36:20
  Speaker 1: people just screwing with me about the Virginia probably now,
• 2:36:24
  Speaker 1: I mean, come on, probably all the same person. Yeah.
• 2:36:26
  Speaker 1: First off, I want to say, frustrated Deuce is amazing.
• 2:36:29
  Speaker 1: I haven't heard a rant like that from him since
• 2:36:31
  Speaker 1: the postgame show after the second Buffalo game, and I've
• 2:36:34
  Speaker 1: missed it on our wide receiver draft selection. I had
• 2:36:38
  Speaker 1: not heard of him before tonight watched them highlights, and
• 2:36:41
  Speaker 1: he seems to have some skills. I'll be looking forward
• 2:36:44
  Speaker 1: to seeing his speed on the field. A fall. Great work, guys,
• 2:36:47
  Speaker 1: you were making the last few hours of work fly by,
• 2:36:49
  Speaker 1: and I'm beyond appreciative for that. Have a good night,
• 2:36:52
  Speaker 1: Fellas and Tamara. Yeah, I've just been diving in a
• 2:36:56
  Speaker 1: little bit, running some of his some of his film,
• 2:36:59
  Speaker 1: grinding the film, just putting some highlights on just to look.
• 2:37:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, he's he's got some intrigue, he's got some speed. Um.
• 2:37:04
  Speaker 1: I hope that that people are maybe a little bit
• 2:37:07
  Speaker 1: excited about him, just to give him a chance. It
• 2:37:09
  Speaker 1: just seems like the kind of guy that everybody is
• 2:37:11
  Speaker 1: calling when you got that sub four three forty runners
• 2:37:17
  Speaker 1: are not teach that, Yeah, like Paul, we haven't had
• 2:37:19
  Speaker 1: one here since I mean Specil Johnson. So it's gonna
• 2:37:24
  Speaker 1: be fun just to see how much different he is
• 2:37:27
  Speaker 1: compared to some of these other guys in terms of,
• 2:37:29
  Speaker 1: you know, yeah, how quickly he can get to that speed?
• 2:37:32
  Speaker 1: You know? Is he one of these like it takes
• 2:37:33
  Speaker 1: a while to right up? Can he get jammed at
• 2:37:35
  Speaker 1: the line the track background? Is he like really able
• 2:37:38
  Speaker 1: to do that right away? And how much of a
• 2:37:40
  Speaker 1: difference is that going to make? Ye, that's the part
• 2:37:43
  Speaker 1: I'm most excited about right now. Is to see that.
• 2:37:45
  Speaker 1: I see that speed, I see I see a little
• 2:37:47
  Speaker 1: bit of you know, a little bit of Jamison Williams
• 2:37:49
  Speaker 1: would just the ability to pull away. And that's I mean,
• 2:37:52
  Speaker 1: that's speed and that's just a pure kind of speed thing.
• 2:37:55
  Speaker 1: But how does Mac drive with that kind of player?
• 2:37:58
  Speaker 1: You know, I mean we've we've I haven't really seen
• 2:38:00
  Speaker 1: him with with that kind of guy when there were
• 2:38:02
  Speaker 1: some can toss it up, toss it up, down phield,
• 2:38:04
  Speaker 1: let him go run under it. But you think maybe
• 2:38:06
  Speaker 1: some thought about max skillset went into it. If you
• 2:38:09
  Speaker 1: can get it there, if you can get it there,
• 2:38:13
  Speaker 1: let's go to the phones. Jeffson, California. Hey Jeff, Jeff
• 2:38:18
  Speaker 1: good good, good, Hey Deuce. Angry Deuce is always fun.
• 2:38:25
  Speaker 1: And uh, you know I used to think like you too,
• 2:38:28
  Speaker 1: So I understand where you're coming from us, you know,
• 2:38:31
  Speaker 1: defending the wall. But you know now more right now
• 2:38:35
  Speaker 1: I would understand. Don't don't be patronized. There was condescension
• 2:38:39
  Speaker 1: in that that comment. I agree. I used I used
• 2:38:42
  Speaker 1: to be foolish like you. I used to think Bill
• 2:38:45
  Speaker 1: Belichick was an okay head coach, but now I know
• 2:38:47
  Speaker 1: that he's terrible, and that he's got to go. He's
• 2:38:49
  Speaker 1: been here twenty one years too long. There he goes,
• 2:38:52
  Speaker 1: There he goes. All all intakes is just a little
• 2:38:55
  Speaker 1: match you have. You do. You have a lot of
• 2:38:58
  Speaker 1: antie in you. You take it to such an extreme. Oh,
• 2:39:02
  Speaker 1: I guess you know we shouldn't ad him for the
• 2:39:04
  Speaker 1: last twenty one years. You do me, DEVI show you
• 2:39:13
  Speaker 1: I can. I do it like twice a year and
• 2:39:15
  Speaker 1: everyone was like, oh my god, the pot every single episode.
• 2:39:18
  Speaker 1: WHOA what'd you say? I think? I cry, I argue
• 2:39:23
  Speaker 1: all the time. You never take things to extremes. I
• 2:39:27
  Speaker 1: don't say like point, I'm not trying to tell you
• 2:39:29
  Speaker 1: that Bill should have been fired twenty one years ago.
• 2:39:32
  Speaker 1: It isn't anything. But I also take any you stupid
• 2:39:34
  Speaker 1: argument things so hey, we're having fun, it's that seat,
• 2:39:37
  Speaker 1: you're in the seat, anything else, Jeff, Yeah, yeah, just
• 2:39:41
  Speaker 1: two quick things. The reason I was calling the needle
• 2:39:45
  Speaker 1: deuce is I think that a lot of people when
• 2:39:46
  Speaker 1: they get their back up about the Bill Belichick thing,
• 2:39:50
  Speaker 1: it's that you know, unh unattributed quotes that everybody linked
• 2:39:55
  Speaker 1: to Joe Judge belt like, well, we could have done
• 2:39:57
  Speaker 1: this with any top fifteen quarterback, blah blah. It's the
• 2:40:01
  Speaker 1: attitude of that that I think that's people like me
• 2:40:04
  Speaker 1: off that Belichick kind of thumbs his nose, that everybody like,
• 2:40:08
  Speaker 1: oh no, it all was me, Like because it has
• 2:40:11
  Speaker 1: to be always the air that comes out of the building,
• 2:40:13
  Speaker 1: that it's like, oh, it all was me, it was
• 2:40:16
  Speaker 1: all our system, it was all this. Yeah that I'm
• 2:40:19
  Speaker 1: the first point. Yeah, And that's what gets my backup
• 2:40:22
  Speaker 1: is it's like, well, if it really was all you,
• 2:40:24
  Speaker 1: then why don't you do it now? Oh you go.
• 2:40:27
  Speaker 1: I'm on board with that. Yeah, you know, me too,
• 2:40:29
  Speaker 1: me too. I don't. I don't. I don't need any
• 2:40:31
  Speaker 1: of that. I mean, come on, yeah, I'm Brady credit.
• 2:40:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah he's pretty good. But again, it's like this hearsay
• 2:40:36
  Speaker 1: stuff of like, well did you did we hear Joe
• 2:40:38
  Speaker 1: Jes say that? Or is that like you know, I
• 2:40:40
  Speaker 1: don't know, Yeah, yeah, no, I get that. And and
• 2:40:43
  Speaker 1: just the second thing real quick, because I'll take it
• 2:40:46
  Speaker 1: off the air and ask you guys um with the
• 2:40:50
  Speaker 1: pick last night because I was apoplectic but I knew
• 2:40:53
  Speaker 1: it was coming anyway. But do you guys think that
• 2:40:56
  Speaker 1: that's kind of a pick proved that last year an
• 2:41:00
  Speaker 1: outsider like Ziegler kind of being in the process, was
• 2:41:04
  Speaker 1: more influenced he left. Now Grow is in place, and
• 2:41:09
  Speaker 1: you heard his press conference. This guy sounds like he's
• 2:41:12
  Speaker 1: just completely the old been one hundred percent that yes man.
• 2:41:16
  Speaker 1: And so it feels like that after the owner called
• 2:41:20
  Speaker 1: him out about having a bad draft the last four years,
• 2:41:23
  Speaker 1: it feels like we're right back to that whole Bill
• 2:41:26
  Speaker 1: is in charge thing. But also all the owner called
• 2:41:30
  Speaker 1: me out, So I can't have this pick look like
• 2:41:32
  Speaker 1: a total bust. So I'm gonna pick a guy that
• 2:41:35
  Speaker 1: can hide on the offensive, lying regardless, and no one's
• 2:41:38
  Speaker 1: going to see him get beat like a drum in
• 2:41:40
  Speaker 1: a big game. Anyways, I'll pick it off the air. Okay,
• 2:41:44
  Speaker 1: you know, I could I hear that argument, you know,
• 2:41:48
  Speaker 1: but MATC. Grow got up there and said, when it
• 2:41:51
  Speaker 1: comes to wide receivers, you gotta go get him, and
• 2:41:54
  Speaker 1: they trade it up to get one. So I don't
• 2:41:57
  Speaker 1: is that a Bill thing or was that you know
• 2:41:59
  Speaker 1: some of the younger guys. A lot of guys in
• 2:42:01
  Speaker 1: that room, Like I said, you know, I always wonder
• 2:42:04
  Speaker 1: like when they trade up to go like whose guy
• 2:42:06
  Speaker 1: was that? Well? I just think it's last a little brother,
• 2:42:13
  Speaker 1: Jackal the little brother. It's not fair speak French. Yeah, uh,
• 2:42:21
  Speaker 1: let's go. Let's go to Bob and Western Mass. He's
• 2:42:25
  Speaker 1: just out there in Western Mass. What's up? Bob? Parts
• 2:42:29
  Speaker 1: on them? Bob, are you there? Bob's really Western Mass? Yeah,
• 2:42:33
  Speaker 1: they don't even get soil reception. Yeah, it's terrible, all right,
• 2:42:36
  Speaker 1: do we dare? Let Chris from Scott d D Chris
• 2:42:43
  Speaker 1: and Scott Stale is calling back for round two. I
• 2:42:46
  Speaker 1: hope your connections better this time. Let's go. It's not
• 2:42:58
  Speaker 1: like you are the show for me, Like when you're gone,
• 2:43:01
  Speaker 1: it's not the same. Paul's my thinking. But what I'm
• 2:43:03
  Speaker 1: trying to tell you is like when you're not there, man,
• 2:43:05
  Speaker 1: the show is completely It's hopefully not the same. Yeah.
• 2:43:10
  Speaker 1: So anyways, Douce, I want to be clear. And by
• 2:43:13
  Speaker 1: the way, Fred, before you do let me go, I
• 2:43:15
  Speaker 1: have two prospects. I have a couple of guys i'd
• 2:43:17
  Speaker 1: like to see us get and I just wanted your
• 2:43:19
  Speaker 1: thoughts on him as a group. But Douce, because you
• 2:43:22
  Speaker 1: said that you wanted the opportunity to talk to me
• 2:43:24
  Speaker 1: while while I was on air, I'm just gonna say
• 2:43:26
  Speaker 1: this and unless you know something so I've had. I've
• 2:43:30
  Speaker 1: been defending the wall for years and years and years.
• 2:43:32
  Speaker 1: I went to the Super Bowl with the helmet cash
• 2:43:34
  Speaker 1: and the whole day, you know, I had my heart
• 2:43:37
  Speaker 1: ripped out, you know when I saw that. Like everybody else,
• 2:43:39
  Speaker 1: I've been a fan for you know, ever since I
• 2:43:41
  Speaker 1: was a kid in forty six gallons U. The point
• 2:43:44
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to make to you is I never won
• 2:43:46
  Speaker 1: said anything at all, and I don't think anybody else
• 2:43:49
  Speaker 1: the same anything at all either, felt Bill the coach
• 2:43:53
  Speaker 1: build the coach. I wouldn't and Paul said it a
• 2:43:56
  Speaker 1: million times as well, Bread everybody. I wouldn't want another
• 2:43:59
  Speaker 1: soul planet Earth to be the coach of my New
• 2:44:01
  Speaker 1: England patients, my New York Patriots. What I'm sick of
• 2:44:05
  Speaker 1: and what I can't stand and why I'm going to
• 2:44:06
  Speaker 1: have to see him go is that as a GM,
• 2:44:10
  Speaker 1: it is completely disgusting what he does with free agencies
• 2:44:15
  Speaker 1: and especially the draft. I'm tired by the fans, just
• 2:44:19
  Speaker 1: as a fan of every year having a draft, the
• 2:44:22
  Speaker 1: complete garbage every year, having to watch other teams, other teams,
• 2:44:27
  Speaker 1: I have to watch athletic superstars, and this that and
• 2:44:30
  Speaker 1: the other to get the enjoyment of watching the athleticism
• 2:44:32
  Speaker 1: on the field because he doesn't draft it, he hands
• 2:44:35
  Speaker 1: it over to people. So but no, no, Paul, That's
• 2:44:40
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. We finally have a fast guy. But again,
• 2:44:43
  Speaker 1: well we do, we have to draft him new sky
• 2:44:45
  Speaker 1: high compared to where he probably should have gone in
• 2:44:47
  Speaker 1: the draft, and this, that and the other. I want
• 2:44:49
  Speaker 1: a competing GM who knows how to work a draft
• 2:44:53
  Speaker 1: or to appropriately and takes advantage of talent and doesn't
• 2:44:56
  Speaker 1: just say, well, I'll say, talk Liver because I'm arrogant
• 2:44:59
  Speaker 1: Bill Belichick, And I'll yeah, I think you're you're being
• 2:45:03
  Speaker 1: very extreme here, you know, No, I know, but like,
• 2:45:08
  Speaker 1: did you like did you not like Barmore last year? No?
• 2:45:14
  Speaker 1: I was, I was just I mean, your your your
• 2:45:18
  Speaker 1: your phone sucks, so we gotta go. But thanks. Yeah,
• 2:45:22
  Speaker 1: I mean I get what he's saying. I mean, it's
• 2:45:25
  Speaker 1: it's it's it's He's right. I mean, in terms of
• 2:45:27
  Speaker 1: the talent that they've acquired since twenty sixteen, that that's
• 2:45:31
  Speaker 1: been a big part of it. So I mean, I
• 2:45:33
  Speaker 1: I don't disagree with that. I mean I also think
• 2:45:35
  Speaker 1: it's it's very hard to to pick guys and to
• 2:45:38
  Speaker 1: put a team together over twenty plus years. And I know,
• 2:45:41
  Speaker 1: but it's it's fallen below the line. I agree, I do.
• 2:45:45
  Speaker 1: She weren't around when I had some historic rants on
• 2:45:48
  Speaker 1: draft shows when he would take guys like Tavon Wilson,
• 2:45:51
  Speaker 1: and you know, even like even the Matthew Slater pick,
• 2:45:54
  Speaker 1: when we like had like nobody had any information anywhere
• 2:45:57
  Speaker 1: about Matthew Slater other than no just that they just
• 2:46:01
  Speaker 1: knew that he played at UCLA, that his father was
• 2:46:03
  Speaker 1: jack father was Jackie Slay, Like nobody had any information
• 2:46:06
  Speaker 1: about him, and like I was just I rate, like, yeah,
• 2:46:09
  Speaker 1: you know, Matthew Slater ended up being one of the
• 2:46:10
  Speaker 1: ones that worked out, But like he takes these he
• 2:46:15
  Speaker 1: the appearance is that he's smarter than everybody else, and
• 2:46:18
  Speaker 1: I'm going to draft these guys that nobody expects. And
• 2:46:21
  Speaker 1: that's where the frustration comes in for a lot of people,
• 2:46:23
  Speaker 1: because they're like, we're seeing all of these names that
• 2:46:25
  Speaker 1: we recognize, and these guys end up more often than
• 2:46:28
  Speaker 1: not becoming stars in the league, and we could have
• 2:46:31
  Speaker 1: had them, And imagine how much more he could have
• 2:46:33
  Speaker 1: won if he had had those guys on his team.
• 2:46:35
  Speaker 1: And that's the I understand what was it, Scott, yeah,
• 2:46:39
  Speaker 1: or Chris and Scott Scottsdale? Right, I understand that frustration. Yeah, yeah,
• 2:46:44
  Speaker 1: because I felt that so many times on this draft show,
• 2:46:47
  Speaker 1: saying like, look at all these look at all these
• 2:46:50
  Speaker 1: clearly talented guys that they're passing over. That's what's funny, though,
• 2:46:54
  Speaker 1: is that I don't really feel the need to defend
• 2:46:56
  Speaker 1: Bill that GM. Like I'm not like the passionate defender
• 2:46:59
  Speaker 1: of Bill g the GM. I just like coaches. I
• 2:47:01
  Speaker 1: like coaching. I like that's aspect of it. That's what
• 2:47:04
  Speaker 1: I find fascinating. Um, you know, I mean, I still right,
• 2:47:10
  Speaker 1: but I still think he's a great coach. I do.
• 2:47:12
  Speaker 1: That's what I That's I've always sen Fred will tell
• 2:47:14
  Speaker 1: you this. I've always questioned Bill the GM. I think
• 2:47:17
  Speaker 1: they left championships on the table. Oh I've said that too.
• 2:47:19
  Speaker 1: Imagine how many more they could have won if they had.
• 2:47:22
  Speaker 1: And I know that's being ridiculously selfish, but like never
• 2:47:25
  Speaker 1: say like I'm outraged I need him gone because I
• 2:47:28
  Speaker 1: should have nine titles and set to six. But like
• 2:47:30
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like, yeah, two thousand and six is
• 2:47:32
  Speaker 1: a sure, example with the general totally Tennessee, Travis and
• 2:47:39
  Speaker 1: West Virginia, says funny, all of the thousands of emails
• 2:47:42
  Speaker 1: Fred doesn't think are good enough to read. But you
• 2:47:45
  Speaker 1: let a guy call from a subway station and yell
• 2:47:48
  Speaker 1: into a speaker phone from thirty feet away to complain
• 2:47:51
  Speaker 1: about Mike for twenty minutes. I'd be very, very hurt
• 2:47:55
  Speaker 1: if I were Miking you allowed that to have. Also,
• 2:47:57
  Speaker 1: can you make sure Tamara is okay? She might have
• 2:47:59
  Speaker 1: had a mini stroke just prior to the Cowboys pick tonight.
• 2:48:02
  Speaker 1: She was very confused. I'm okay, coming for you. Okay,
• 2:48:09
  Speaker 1: she's multitasking, Yes, multitasking, was doing research. Chad Muma another favorite.
• 2:48:15
  Speaker 1: Oh Vilas Jones. He was on the big board too.
• 2:48:18
  Speaker 1: Oh Bears. Bears look very happy getting their guy in
• 2:48:20
  Speaker 1: their war room. God, third round pick. Yeah, articulous third
• 2:48:27
  Speaker 1: round pick. It's like New Year's Shakes. Yeah. Yes, No.
• 2:48:34
  Speaker 1: Matt Miller, right, the draft analyst for ESPN, you know
• 2:48:37
  Speaker 1: in he wrote, he just tweeted out I thought Taekwon
• 2:48:42
  Speaker 1: Thornton was a Day three pick who was only that
• 2:48:44
  Speaker 1: high based on his speed, which is really damning. Like
• 2:48:47
  Speaker 1: a Day three pick only because he was lightning fast.
• 2:48:50
  Speaker 1: I really hope I'm wrong, but the Patriots draft value
• 2:48:53
  Speaker 1: has been way, way off. And the only thing I
• 2:48:56
  Speaker 1: would say to that is, why do you really hope
• 2:48:59
  Speaker 1: you're wrong? Right? Like, like what do you have in
• 2:49:02
  Speaker 1: but like you know, but your job is to be right? Right? Yeah,
• 2:49:08
  Speaker 1: if I right? You know, Like the reason I gravitate
• 2:49:11
  Speaker 1: toward guys like Daniel Jeremiah is because I look at
• 2:49:16
  Speaker 1: his stuff and generally he seems to be pretty close
• 2:49:19
  Speaker 1: no one gets it right, yeah, but he seems to
• 2:49:22
  Speaker 1: be pretty accurate with a lot of his projections. And
• 2:49:24
  Speaker 1: if I'm Matt Miller, I'm completely the opposite of that.
• 2:49:28
  Speaker 1: I'm hoping I'm right. I think he's pick and that's
• 2:49:32
  Speaker 1: what he turned out to be, right. Yeah, this, uh,
• 2:49:35
  Speaker 1: this Thornton kid, I'm looking at pictures of him. He
• 2:49:36
  Speaker 1: looks skinny, like, um, well that's one of them kid
• 2:49:39
  Speaker 1: from Alabama and with the Eagles, what's what's his name?
• 2:49:42
  Speaker 1: You know about his rest but a lot of people
• 2:49:46
  Speaker 1: are saying it that's one of the reasons why he
• 2:49:48
  Speaker 1: was a Day three projections He's so over the middle
• 2:49:51
  Speaker 1: and get popped and yeah, I mean and that's you know,
• 2:49:59
  Speaker 1: but I mean similar kind of range of Jamison Williams.
• 2:50:02
  Speaker 1: I mean, Thornton seems skinnier. It's not He's not Jamison Williams,
• 2:50:05
  Speaker 1: but that's the kind of player. You know, lean tall,
• 2:50:08
  Speaker 1: but you miss him in space. He's gone. Bob is
• 2:50:11
  Speaker 1: back from Western mass Bob, what's up? Hey, guys? How
• 2:50:15
  Speaker 1: are you doing good? How are you doing about the
• 2:50:17
  Speaker 1: faux pa areas out here in the hot tub? And
• 2:50:19
  Speaker 1: I had the bluetooth connected machine. I'm a big shot.
• 2:50:26
  Speaker 1: I don't like the brag. Puts your toe win very hot?
• 2:50:29
  Speaker 1: Wha who? Well? Nice the water? Now? Are you nude?
• 2:50:39
  Speaker 1: The audio good? Yeah? Okay, excellent, Okay, go ahead, we
• 2:50:43
  Speaker 1: can hear you. I'm sorry. So I was kind of
• 2:50:47
  Speaker 1: pingybacking on the Ukrainian guy that called about an hour
• 2:50:50
  Speaker 1: ago and what he was trying to say, and maybe
• 2:50:52
  Speaker 1: had a little brady to his argument. But I think
• 2:50:56
  Speaker 1: Belichick's you know, still pretty decent at you know, picking
• 2:50:59
  Speaker 1: up free agents. Not too bad in the later rounds,
• 2:51:01
  Speaker 1: but maybe take away the first round, second round, third
• 2:51:05
  Speaker 1: round from him, you know, the grandpa drive to the market,
• 2:51:09
  Speaker 1: but maybe keep him off the freeway. Wow, jeez, Paul
• 2:51:15
  Speaker 1: two one. I go, Paul, I don't want to. I
• 2:51:18
  Speaker 1: don't want to hear you tell me that no one
• 2:51:20
  Speaker 1: criticizes Bill Belichick. Do I have to explain this again? Yeah? Yes, apparently. Yeah.
• 2:51:26
  Speaker 1: Please when I say no one, I don't mean zero. Yeah. Yeah,
• 2:51:29
  Speaker 1: like I want I want you to to Like a
• 2:51:32
  Speaker 1: lot of people are, well, now I'm talking about the
• 2:51:36
  Speaker 1: last twenty twenty plus years. He's got no criticism. Well
• 2:51:39
  Speaker 1: should he have? Sure? Yes, Malcolm Brown, like eight years
• 2:51:44
  Speaker 1: ago was a terrible pain. Okay, so he has to
• 2:51:46
  Speaker 1: be perfect. No, but I mean everybody told me it
• 2:51:49
  Speaker 1: was great. They got an A for that draft. Like
• 2:51:52
  Speaker 1: there's a difference between everybody's perfect. No, he's considered to
• 2:51:56
  Speaker 1: be perfect, right, but people are writing it's like, well,
• 2:51:59
  Speaker 1: I guess I'm wrong Bill Bill, Bill likes Cole Strange.
• 2:52:01
  Speaker 1: I guess I'm wrong. Like some draft expert hopes he's
• 2:52:04
  Speaker 1: wrong because Bill Belichick took took the guy, you know
• 2:52:08
  Speaker 1: before he thought he was gonna be I don't tell
• 2:52:11
  Speaker 1: me there's not this still this opinion of Bill of
• 2:52:15
  Speaker 1: being infallible. Okay, you don't think so, but infallible again,
• 2:52:21
  Speaker 1: We're we're talking definitives here. No he's not infallible. But
• 2:52:26
  Speaker 1: I know he's not infallible, but there's still a widespread Again,
• 2:52:30
  Speaker 1: not every single person thinks he's infallible. Yeah, but there's
• 2:52:34
  Speaker 1: that's still a widely held belief. I'm listening to like Beetle,
• 2:52:38
  Speaker 1: who's very critical, Yeah, telling me what Bill had conviction.
• 2:52:41
  Speaker 1: He liked this guy i'd like to pick. So you
• 2:52:44
  Speaker 1: liked the pick solely because Bill Belichick made it. Yeah,
• 2:52:48
  Speaker 1: And I like Beetle. I'm not trying to pick on him.
• 2:52:51
  Speaker 1: I don't know, trading down and then picking the guy
• 2:52:54
  Speaker 1: that's not conviction. I don't know, afraid. I mean, you
• 2:52:58
  Speaker 1: you hire people. How would be like if you had
• 2:53:00
  Speaker 1: to hire forty people every year? Every year you gotta
• 2:53:03
  Speaker 1: hire forty My head would explode. It's really hard. I'm
• 2:53:07
  Speaker 1: gonna bust his balls. Light the Seattle Abraham Lucas, Tackle,
• 2:53:14
  Speaker 1: Washington State, hometown products, Bob anything else, because you know
• 2:53:20
  Speaker 1: we're getting up. We're all right. We're also getting a
• 2:53:23
  Speaker 1: little punchy. Yeah, wait till tomorrow some of us. Oh
• 2:53:26
  Speaker 1: but that's funny punchy. Uh. Jason and Carl's bad New Mexico.
• 2:53:31
  Speaker 1: So I hadn't heard of Thornton until the Patriots selected him.
• 2:53:34
  Speaker 1: But I watched some of his highlights and he seems
• 2:53:37
  Speaker 1: to have good hands, and he looks like he is
• 2:53:39
  Speaker 1: definitely a playmaker. He's a good runner with the football
• 2:53:42
  Speaker 1: after the catch. I like his big playability and his
• 2:53:45
  Speaker 1: ability to make contested catches. Looks like a decent pick.
• 2:53:49
  Speaker 1: I look forward to seeing him as a Patriot and
• 2:53:51
  Speaker 1: seeing how he fits in the offense. Do you think
• 2:53:53
  Speaker 1: he could potentially be our number one receiver? Loving the
• 2:53:57
  Speaker 1: draft shows, keep up the great work. I think I
• 2:54:00
  Speaker 1: think Paul was right on it with I think he's
• 2:54:03
  Speaker 1: your next year Agalore replacement. You're outside X receiver consistently
• 2:54:08
  Speaker 1: down to downy and if he pants out, I'm fine
• 2:54:11
  Speaker 1: with that because I'm not I'm not entering twenty twenty
• 2:54:14
  Speaker 1: two with like these through the roof aspirations and expectations.
• 2:54:18
  Speaker 1: I think there's if he's a good player and he
• 2:54:21
  Speaker 1: maybe catches thirty balls this year, but he shows promise
• 2:54:26
  Speaker 1: and you know, maybe he steps into a bigger role
• 2:54:28
  Speaker 1: next year. I'm fine with that. Let's just say it now,
• 2:54:30
  Speaker 1: get on the field, stay on the field, just stay healthy. Yep,
• 2:54:33
  Speaker 1: that's how That's what matters now if he's a healthy
• 2:54:36
  Speaker 1: scratch every week or gets hurt even worse, gets hurt
• 2:54:40
  Speaker 1: and like, I don't just give him a free pass.
• 2:54:42
  Speaker 1: That that's a bad pick. It's it's it's like, you know,
• 2:54:46
  Speaker 1: the injury within reason. I think, what has happened? What
• 2:54:49
  Speaker 1: the hell just happened? Some guy just fall out? Yeah?
• 2:54:52
  Speaker 1: Oh wow? On the draft show, yeah, there were like
• 2:54:55
  Speaker 1: somebody was on somebody else's shoulders and okay. In the
• 2:55:01
  Speaker 1: twenty two NFL drafts, the Indianapolis Cults select they're a
• 2:55:07
  Speaker 1: comedy duo. So I'm gonna guess this is a joke.
• 2:55:09
  Speaker 1: That's cults. They're gonna hang out, They're gonna hit a
• 2:55:13
  Speaker 1: batterer for that. That one, I guess was very funny.
• 2:55:16
  Speaker 1: Um oh, Atlanta, I think took Desmond ridding. You know,
• 2:55:18
  Speaker 1: it's bad when you're trying to do a bit and
• 2:55:19
  Speaker 1: everyone's like, is he okay? Is this is this a joke?
• 2:55:22
  Speaker 1: Right now? What's going on? Let's say? Baker writes in
• 2:55:26
  Speaker 1: from uval Texas. I think a lot of people are
• 2:55:29
  Speaker 1: looking at this draft wrong. We're seeing people say things
• 2:55:33
  Speaker 1: like there was an eighty four percent chance this guy
• 2:55:35
  Speaker 1: was going to be available in the mid third or
• 2:55:37
  Speaker 1: fourth round. I think if you look at analytics like
• 2:55:39
  Speaker 1: that and trust them, you can lose the guy you're after,
• 2:55:42
  Speaker 1: because none of these draft experts know what all thirty
• 2:55:46
  Speaker 1: two teams are thinking. Strange could have gone anywhere in
• 2:55:49
  Speaker 1: the twenty to eighty range. Bill Gutt is guy. I
• 2:55:52
  Speaker 1: like having the fifth year option on Strange and avoiding
• 2:55:55
  Speaker 1: another Joe Tuney situation. Same thing with Thornton Bill Gutt,
• 2:55:59
  Speaker 1: who he wanted and traded up to do so. I
• 2:56:01
  Speaker 1: see the twenty twenty season as pushing the reset button
• 2:56:05
  Speaker 1: on the Pagets. I think he meant twenty twenty two.
• 2:56:07
  Speaker 1: Uh it marked Oh oh no, he does mean twenty
• 2:56:10
  Speaker 1: just having the fifth year, avoid the Joe Tuney situation.
• 2:56:12
  Speaker 1: Just let me finish. I see the twenty twenty season
• 2:56:15
  Speaker 1: as pushing the reset button on the Patriots. It marked
• 2:56:18
  Speaker 1: the beginning of a long but necessary rebel. We did
• 2:56:22
  Speaker 1: well in the last year's draft and have yet to
• 2:56:24
  Speaker 1: see what some of the linebackers can do and in
• 2:56:27
  Speaker 1: free agency. And Bill Belichick is still the greatest coach
• 2:56:30
  Speaker 1: of all time. Let him rebuild the team his way. Quarterbacks. Finally,
• 2:56:35
  Speaker 1: another quarterback there it is. You know, Paul, I gotta
• 2:56:39
  Speaker 1: I gotta give a shout out real quick to me
• 2:56:42
  Speaker 1: tease mentioned Taekwon Thornton on our draft preview podcast, is
• 2:56:47
  Speaker 1: letting you know. He did let me know. But I
• 2:56:51
  Speaker 1: but I you know, he was the new guy. We
• 2:56:53
  Speaker 1: brought him in and he was right on the pick.
• 2:56:55
  Speaker 1: So how about that job tease? Oh oh what's I
• 2:57:02
  Speaker 1: just realized something him. I'll tell you off. Okay. Uh,
• 2:57:06
  Speaker 1: Caesar in Kansas City will get the last word, he says.
• 2:57:10
  Speaker 1: Every year, casual fans and media members project and analyze
• 2:57:13
  Speaker 1: the draft. Every year, there are overreactions and criticism before
• 2:57:17
  Speaker 1: guys even play a snap. I admit I wasn't a
• 2:57:20
  Speaker 1: fan of either of the first picks because in my
• 2:57:23
  Speaker 1: mind there were better options. That said, this draft has
• 2:57:26
  Speaker 1: reminded me of something very important. Most of us don't
• 2:57:29
  Speaker 1: know blank about the draft, myself and just about everyone else,
• 2:57:33
  Speaker 1: said Nacoby Dean going round one yet he's still available
• 2:57:36
  Speaker 1: around three. Just goes to show I'm not an expert.
• 2:57:40
  Speaker 1: None of us are. Nope, even the ones that were.
• 2:57:43
  Speaker 1: But that's not a good example. Like Cole Strange is
• 2:57:47
  Speaker 1: a good example. No one had him in the first round.
• 2:57:49
  Speaker 1: He went in the first round. Nacobe Dean is clearly
• 2:57:53
  Speaker 1: every team hasn't taken him. Yeah, well, so the reports
• 2:57:57
  Speaker 1: about his medicals have to be accurate, right, Yeah. Um,
• 2:58:00
  Speaker 1: I did see a report from PFF that he refused
• 2:58:04
  Speaker 1: shoulder Yeah okay, yeah, and that was part of the
• 2:58:09
  Speaker 1: you know, the Bereer thing earlier that I read. But like, yeah,
• 2:58:14
  Speaker 1: when we don't have all the medical information, But to me,
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  Speaker 1: when you think a guy is a first round value,
• 2:58:21
  Speaker 1: like you watched I watched Mike Deso play and I
• 2:58:24
  Speaker 1: think he is a first round player. I disagree, and
• 2:58:27
  Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong with him and he gets taken in
• 2:58:29
  Speaker 1: the fourth rust. That's an example of not knowing what
• 2:58:32
  Speaker 1: you're you're talking about. Let me, well, it's too bad,
• 2:58:34
  Speaker 1: we're coming to the end. But why do you think
• 2:58:36
  Speaker 1: like the Nakobe Dean info didn't like that didn't come
• 2:58:39
  Speaker 1: out before. Yeah, that's weird because that happens, not every year,
• 2:58:42
  Speaker 1: but frequently a lot of times it happens to the opposite. Yeah,
• 2:58:47
  Speaker 1: like guys leak medical information together to try to try
• 2:58:52
  Speaker 1: to get him right. But in this case, I think
• 2:58:54
  Speaker 1: they had the info, but they didn't want any Let
• 2:58:57
  Speaker 1: it out, maybe because they take them, you know, let
• 2:59:00
  Speaker 1: the other team, which I think is say, but it
• 2:59:02
  Speaker 1: turns out that they all have the info, you know.
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