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First Date Nerves · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
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  Speaker 1: with I our radio.
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  Speaker 2: Hey everyone, welcome to the Almost Famous Podcast. It is
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  Speaker 2: fourth of July weekend, but Ben and I had to
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  Speaker 2: of course be here to recap the episode. No, don't, Ben,
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  Speaker 2: We're good at that little pat on the shoulder for ourselves.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I guess when it's week two of the bacheloret season,
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  Speaker 3: it's our time to step up. So we're gonna show
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  Speaker 3: up and step up, just like the guys did this week.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, they step up. I don't know. I'm like, I
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  Speaker 2: went from feeling so great about the season to just being, oh, no,
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  Speaker 2: I'm bored. I watched with a friend last night, though. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: my friend Lizzie's over for the weekend and she hasn't
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  Speaker 2: watched in seasons, so I said, like, probably right regularly,
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  Speaker 2: it's been like three years since she watched, and she's like, oh, well,
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  Speaker 2: when I watch it, I can get into it. It
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  Speaker 2: was fun. She enjoyed it, but she enjoyed it way
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  Speaker 2: more than I did. Maybe it's because she's watching with
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  Speaker 2: fresh eyes. Yeah, but maybe I her her commentary was
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  Speaker 2: the best part of the show for me. Making fun
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  Speaker 2: of the guys.
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  Speaker 3: Well, it's before we dive into the recap this week,
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  Speaker 3: let's talk about your plans for the holidays. Do you
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  Speaker 3: have any big plans.
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  Speaker 2: Big plans. I have my sister coming tomorrow, So it's
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  Speaker 2: my best friend and my sister coming, and we're just
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  Speaker 2: gonna do really girly fun things in Rhode Island, like
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  Speaker 2: just have cocktails on different beaches basically, just like go
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  Speaker 2: in a different little scenic restaurants and have lady talk,
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  Speaker 2: you know, and then we're and then we'll be going
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  Speaker 2: over to Jared's parents house for a barbecue. We're gonna
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  Speaker 2: take Dawson to fireworks last year he was six months
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  Speaker 2: and go over the best of course I'm gonna buy him.
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  Speaker 2: This is a reminder to me to go on Amazon
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  Speaker 2: and see if I can like get those head sets
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  Speaker 2: that you put over baby's ears to block the scar sounds.
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  Speaker 2: And then yeah, we're going to go to this place
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  Speaker 2: called Ocean House, which is one of my very favorite
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  Speaker 2: places in Rhode Island. Take everybody who visits there. It's
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  Speaker 2: right next to Taylor Swift's house. I'm not like revealing anything,
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  Speaker 2: like her house is very well known to be right
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  Speaker 2: next to this place, and she used to be. She
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  Speaker 2: used to hold her fourth July party every year and
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  Speaker 2: it would always make tabloids. Right, I feel like she
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  Speaker 2: might bring it back this year because she's single. She's
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  Speaker 2: she's like really feeling her like friend group or her
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  Speaker 2: girl group self. I don't know, so like we might
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  Speaker 2: be able to see Taylor have a party.
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  Speaker 3: Is that in your head? Is that in your mind
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  Speaker 3: right now?
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  Speaker 2: It is? It's like kind of embarrassing because if I
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  Speaker 2: see them like all partying behind this big fence that
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  Speaker 2: she has, Like, what am I gonna do? Oh my god,
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  Speaker 2: there's Taylor just gog at her Like no, I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: I want to get in there. Hi, Taylor's you watch
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  Speaker 2: The Bachelor?
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  Speaker 3: I hope you do. I hope there's tabloids of that.
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  Speaker 3: That's gonna be a good time. Well, actually we do
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  Speaker 3: have a week two to break down. We have both
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  Speaker 3: now seen the episode. We have our criticisms and judgments
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  Speaker 3: and thoughts on this episode. It kicks off with kind
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  Speaker 3: of everybody sitting in the mansion, and in so far, Ashley,
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  Speaker 3: I feel like this group of guys, there's a few
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  Speaker 3: standout guys going into week two. Obviously, Braden is one
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  Speaker 3: of those. Aaron B Is one of those Joey kind
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  Speaker 3: of made a good first impression on week one, but
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  Speaker 3: Aaron B is the one that gets the first date.
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  Speaker 3: I think the first date of the season is one
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  Speaker 3: of the most spectacular dates to have. And this is
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  Speaker 3: why because nobody has any expectations, like, she's not great
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  Speaker 3: at this point, he's not great at this yet they're
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  Speaker 3: literally this is like, oh my, let's get this thing started.
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  Speaker 3: Let's go. And so they're both kind of very much
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  Speaker 3: in it together. She's not like seasoned in the dating
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  Speaker 3: and the asking of questions. Yeah, isn't like jealous yet
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  Speaker 3: because he hasn't heard about the dates you know before him.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's such a big deal, and this was
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  Speaker 3: a good date. It didn't have a lot of like
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  Speaker 3: dating spark. Right there, it's the Hollywood Sign.
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  Speaker 2: That's we see you didn't think that was cool, Lucy,
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  Speaker 2: And I thought that was so cool.
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  Speaker 3: Really, I thought it was cool. Like I thought it
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  Speaker 3: was fine.
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  Speaker 2: I think the car ride is like that whatever, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: driving up to the Hollywood Sign, I'm like, this is it.
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  Speaker 2: Come on, guys, we can do this any day of
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  Speaker 2: the week if you're in LA. But then when they
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  Speaker 2: got to open the fence and stand up against it.
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  Speaker 2: That was really cool. That's coveted. I don't think that
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  Speaker 2: that access is very easy even for the production company
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  Speaker 2: to get, or maybe I'm super wrong. But then I
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  Speaker 2: was looking at their height and I was like, holy crap,
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  Speaker 2: those things are so high.
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  Speaker 3: So big. It is cool. It is I mean, I
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  Speaker 3: guess you can hike to it, you can see it,
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  Speaker 3: but the stand up against it to be like in
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  Speaker 3: that so in that iconic spot and that the whole
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  Speaker 3: world recognizes and nose is a special date.
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  Speaker 2: I would think I was like in Friends with Benefits
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  Speaker 2: with Mila Kunos and Justine, like one of my favorite
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  Speaker 2: rom coms. They do that, but it's like kind of
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  Speaker 2: a chaotic scene because you know, he gets caught. I
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  Speaker 2: would just be like, oh, I guess I live relive
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  Speaker 2: one of my chick flicks. I'd like that for that reason.
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  Speaker 2: But of course that doesn't come up.
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  Speaker 3: The day goes well. In my opinion, it's fine. It's
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  Speaker 3: a good first date. It's a good opening date. I
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  Speaker 3: wouldn't say that their chemistry blew me off. Okay, same, now,
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  Speaker 3: the show tried though, yeah, right, the show.
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  Speaker 2: Tried feeling it I'm feeling it. They kept they were
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  Speaker 2: like she kept saying things that were supposed to make
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  Speaker 2: us think that you was really feeling it. Like verbally
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  Speaker 2: they were all really feeling it, but like I didn't
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  Speaker 2: feel it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think it was it maybe is to come.
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  Speaker 3: There's a lot of nerves on that first date. Now
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  Speaker 3: there's a lot of just excitement, nerves and anticipation, and
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  Speaker 3: you kind of I mean, at least for me, I
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  Speaker 3: remember that first date. You kind of just want to
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  Speaker 3: get it over with, meaning not that you're like sick
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  Speaker 3: of the date or you don't want to be around
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  Speaker 3: the person. You just want to go back to your
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  Speaker 3: For me, go back to my hotel room and be like, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: I did it. I'm in it now, I've done It
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  Speaker 3: was your first date? Uh yeah, I had an ice
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  Speaker 3: cube and Kevin Hart and a hot tub in LA.
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  Speaker 2: That's right. I didn't know that was your first That
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  Speaker 2: was your first date.
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  Speaker 3: It's the first day. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Talk about nerves, Yeah, I talk about not being able
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  Speaker 2: to focus on the other person. Yeah, you were all
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  Speaker 2: about the celebrities.
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  Speaker 3: It was intense, and then amos Lee came in and
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  Speaker 3: my favorite artists. Yeah night, So laurna Lena played on
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  Speaker 3: this date. I still feel very strong and the aaronb
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  Speaker 3: is going to be here a while. I would not
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  Speaker 3: be shocked if he's the one standing up there at
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  Speaker 3: the end. I think they really she was only going
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  Speaker 3: to get closer and grow up. I think again, it
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  Speaker 3: was a first date, and I think as this episode
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  Speaker 3: even progresses, you see Charity loosening up a little bit
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  Speaker 3: in these dates, like having more fun with it, you know,
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  Speaker 3: expressing herself more. She's very excited, you can see on
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  Speaker 3: this first date because she comes to tears, and I
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  Speaker 3: think that's a big deal. I think Charity had I
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  Speaker 3: think and I'm assuming here just on based on her
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  Speaker 3: behavior so far. I think Charity was really worried about
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  Speaker 3: being the bachelorette and that guys would not be into
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  Speaker 3: her for some reason. I don't understand why, but that's
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  Speaker 3: an insecurity of hers because she's really into the guys
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  Speaker 3: that you know that they're into.
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  Speaker 2: Her, yeah, and they're like, I came because of you,
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  Speaker 2: and I was so lit up when I heard that
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  Speaker 2: it was you. Yeah, So that means a lot. Sure
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  Speaker 2: face just shines when they say that.
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  Speaker 3: So I think that's I think that's going to be
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  Speaker 3: very attractive to her at the beginning, And I think
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  Speaker 3: a lot of these guys are there for her, which
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  Speaker 3: makes sense. But I do think she had that something,
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  Speaker 3: somebody said something to her at some point, or something
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  Speaker 3: was living inside of her head where she was nervous
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  Speaker 3: about who would be there for her and who would
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  Speaker 3: be there not for her. And I think that's why
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  Speaker 3: this whole spring Break storyline, through the whole episode, like
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  Speaker 3: hits her so hard and makes her so upset and confused,
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  Speaker 3: and so there's a lot of read there's a lot
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  Speaker 3: to read into this day. But she comes to tears
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  Speaker 3: I think just out of like, I think there's at
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  Speaker 3: least one guy here very much for me, and I
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  Speaker 3: think that's this guy that's with me on this date.
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  Speaker 2: I definitely think he's tough.
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  Speaker 3: Four.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I usually think that the person who has
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  Speaker 2: the first date usually gets all right. So back at
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  Speaker 2: the mention, Oh, I guess is there anything about their
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  Speaker 2: dinner conversation that's worth mentioning?
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  Speaker 3: Oh?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there is, Yes, there is. Okay, I want to
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  Speaker 2: know over on the same page about this. Maybe I
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  Speaker 2: was a total dickhead in interpreting this, but he was
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  Speaker 2: in a four year relationship in college and then realized
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  Speaker 2: that he needed to go to therapy for the way
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  Speaker 2: that he is in relationships because he's not an active
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  Speaker 2: listener and like he wasn't a good communicator. Why did
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  Speaker 2: that set off a little bit of a red flag
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  Speaker 2: for me?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I think probably.
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  Speaker 2: Not that therapy sets off red flags, Okay, not at all,
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  Speaker 2: but the fact that like by nature he's not like
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  Speaker 2: he doesn't want to listen or talk it makes me worried.
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  Speaker 3: I think I actually see it as a great admittance
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  Speaker 3: of vulnerability. Now, I don't think you're wrong. Where at
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  Speaker 3: first she agreed with you. Yeah, Yeah, when you hear it,
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  Speaker 3: you go WHOA, Like Okay, what about? Like what what
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  Speaker 3: in your dating relationship? What made you go, hey, I
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  Speaker 3: need to go get some assistance. Now, I'm assuming after
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  Speaker 3: four years they had probably pretty open communication. I'm sure
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  Speaker 3: there was time after time where he was either told
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  Speaker 3: or he felt like he was falling short in that relationship.
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  Speaker 3: And over time, when you hear enough, hopefully you're a
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  Speaker 3: humble enough person to say, Okay, I admit that I'm
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  Speaker 3: not doing and I'm not reaching the expectations that you
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  Speaker 3: have for me. In this relationship, so either I figured
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  Speaker 3: this out on my own or regularly get help. And
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  Speaker 3: I think at some point he said, I just need
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  Speaker 3: to get help because this is the this is the
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  Speaker 3: last option. We've tried everything. I've tried to get better.
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  Speaker 3: I don't. I've tried to get you know, to be
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  Speaker 3: a better partner. I haven't. You continue to be upset
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  Speaker 3: with me. I'm also maybe assuming that the relationship in
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  Speaker 3: itself wasn't healthy because neither felt like they were getting
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  Speaker 3: what they needed out of it. And so, you know,
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  Speaker 3: maybe he took, you know, took one for the team
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  Speaker 3: and said, I'll go get help for this. But there
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  Speaker 3: could we don't know the other side of the story.
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  Speaker 3: It could be that his partner in this also needed
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  Speaker 3: to go get some you know, help on what you know,
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  Speaker 3: what healthy expectations are for relationships.
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  Speaker 2: Totally Now, did did he say that it was that
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  Speaker 2: relationship specifically that sent him to therapy, Because in my memory,
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  Speaker 2: he was like, I was dating.
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  Speaker 3: YEA and a couple other. But I don't think it's uh,
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  Speaker 3: I don't think it's like a big deal. I really don't.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I think it's a good thing he did.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think it's a big deal to look at.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it matters what household you grew up in.
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  Speaker 3: Two what if you could grow up with like a
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  Speaker 3: dad or a mom who isn't an active listener. Like
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  Speaker 3: you never get modeled for you, You never see it,
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  Speaker 3: and so as a result, you go into relationships and
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  Speaker 3: you're kind of modeling off the after the only thing
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  Speaker 3: you know. And then you're like, wait, maybe there's a
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  Speaker 3: better way, but you don't know how to do that
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  Speaker 3: better way. So you have to get taught, you have
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  Speaker 3: to get help.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Charity obviously appreciated his admittance to that, and
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  Speaker 2: and I think I think that's probably the most important
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  Speaker 2: thing to talk about when it comes to their nighttime portion.
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  Speaker 2: So the back of the house, we get a group
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  Speaker 2: date card and it's pretty much everybody. Who's everybody is?
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  Speaker 2: It wasn't every Yes, it's not everybody because there's two
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  Speaker 2: group dates. So this one has Doton Tanner, Adrian John, Caleb,
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  Speaker 2: Caleb b Caleb K. What the heck, how in the
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  Speaker 2: world do we have three Calebs on one season. I
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  Speaker 2: don't remember the last Caleb, Xavier, James, Ernest, Sean and Brandon.
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  Speaker 2: The card says, suns out, buns out, And we didn't
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  Speaker 2: know that they would take that so literally. Because the
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  Speaker 2: guys show up to the beach and they are playing
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  Speaker 2: the fourth annual, not annual as it was the fourth
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  Speaker 2: in the tradition of playing dodgeball, this time modeling after
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  Speaker 2: Claire season, where they will be in speedos. What if
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  Speaker 2: you you care about the speedo thing. Remember how much
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  Speaker 2: that made a stir with what's his name Joseph during
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  Speaker 2: Claire season and how he said that wasn't appropriate for
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  Speaker 2: his daughter.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's fine. I don't have any I don't
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  Speaker 3: have any issues. I do always laugh, and I think
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  Speaker 3: that's what they want out of us. Like all of
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  Speaker 3: a sudden, you see one of these guys in their
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  Speaker 3: job as like attorney, the next is doctor, the other
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  Speaker 3: one's teacher, and you're like, oh, now they're on a
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  Speaker 3: speed in a speedo on national television. However, it's not
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  Speaker 3: a thing. I mean, it's not. It's nothing that bothers me.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's a funny, unique element to it now.
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  Speaker 2: But so what if we flipped it instead of the
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  Speaker 2: girls had to be wearing like thongs.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you're right, I don't know I think
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  Speaker 3: it would.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just playing devil's advocate. Yeah, I don't really care either.
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  Speaker 3: No, see, I don't think you're wrong.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's funny for guys, and we think it's
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  Speaker 2: like misogynistic for girls.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and then and and that's just kind of the
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  Speaker 3: mindset right now. Yes, I don't know if I could
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  Speaker 3: explain anything farther than that, other than it would just
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  Speaker 3: feel like we consistently try to, you know, over sexualize women,
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  Speaker 3: and we have for you know, years, and it would
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  Speaker 3: just be wrong. It wouldn't be right. It wouldn't be
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  Speaker 3: at the right time, right place, right right spot for
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  Speaker 3: the show to do that. But with men, it's like
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  Speaker 3: this can still be funny still, Like it can still
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  Speaker 3: be a comedic about guys.
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  Speaker 2: Butts are funny and if if they were like, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: you're just gonna play dodgeball and a T shirt and shorts,
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  Speaker 2: we'd be like snooze fest it would.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, so, I don't know, I can't explain it.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not like up to date or educated enough.
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  Speaker 3: And why it's still comedy versus you know, why it
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  Speaker 3: would be inappropriate. Yeah, so somebody can do that A
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  Speaker 3: lot better than than we can't hear, but it's still
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  Speaker 3: a little funny. It doesn't really add enough for me.
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  Speaker 3: If they said, hey, you're just gonna play dodgeball, I
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  Speaker 3: would have been fine with that. I mean, it doesn't
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  Speaker 3: add enough for me to be like, oh, now, this
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  Speaker 3: date's worth it. Because all these dudes are tostos. You know,
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  Speaker 3: they give them cups, which is I.
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  Speaker 2: Guess is good. I mean it's also like.
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  Speaker 3: Cold, it's super cool.
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  Speaker 2: This shrinkage must have been a thing.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, because you can see these dudes like shivering.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's march on the beach in La. It's got
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  Speaker 2: to be in the fifties.
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  Speaker 3: It's got to be cold. The fans are out there
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  Speaker 3: and like sweaters and long hands. I love that they
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  Speaker 3: have fans there. I love that the fans get to
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  Speaker 3: kind of circle the whole arena because balls are flying
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  Speaker 3: past them. I think that would have been really fun
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  Speaker 3: to be at. I would have loved to just be
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  Speaker 3: there and watch that date. I also say that I
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: was really impressed. I'm not always super impressed with their
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  Speaker 3: dodgeball efforts. This group was very athletic and had some
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  Speaker 3: of them had mass of arms, and they were like
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  Speaker 3: catching incredible balls like this was. This is a legit
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  Speaker 3: good dodgeball game. I think if we would have watched
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  Speaker 3: it in real time on every play, we would have
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  Speaker 3: been super intrigued by it because I think they were
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  Speaker 3: going at each other. Obviously, Caleb stands out during this.
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  Speaker 3: Xavier stood out to me. Some of the stuff he
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  Speaker 3: was doing was incredible. Adrian, Adrian stood out. I was
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  Speaker 3: surprised he got MVP. I think there was He made
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  Speaker 3: it to the end a few times and definitely did
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  Speaker 3: some things that helped his team, you know, almost win.
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  Speaker 3: But I really felt like Caleb, and that was kind
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  Speaker 3: of a storyline that show's point out, Like Caleb definitely
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  Speaker 3: was was their best player and that's why they all
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  Speaker 3: went after him first. And so, you know, fair not
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  Speaker 3: Adrian gets the MVP.
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  Speaker 2: Which creates, yeah, drama at the after party because Adrian,
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: according to Brandon, was not the most qualified for MVP,
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: and that's what gets them started arguing at the after party. Now, listen,
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: I know you don't like Branden, and I know that
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: Braiden is definitely like the guy with the most red
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: flags at this moment, but can we also just say
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: that Adrian is not at all perfect in the situation
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: as well, because Adrian is the guy that takes everything
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: so dead seriously and he hasn't cracked a smile the
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: entire time he's been here, and if he doesn't like
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: if a guy doesn't smile or have any levity about
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: the situation that they're in, he automatically gets on my
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: bad side.
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well they can't. You can't say I don't like
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: Braiden yet. I have my questions. I don't know enough
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: about him. I've seen him for well up to this episode.
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: One episode I thought he definitely threw some red flags up.
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: I definitely would like be weary of his future here
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: on the show and how he's going to behave. But
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: I don't know enough about him yet to say, hey,
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: I like him or I don't like him, or I
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: don't like him for Charity or whatever. I do think
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: Adrian had some stuff here where, you know, he continued
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: throughout this whole up so to h he's kind of
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: the guy now this season to talk about everybody else all.
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: The time the wrong reasons guy.
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and for a guy who probably has a really
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: good shot with Charity, and for a guy that seems
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: like a really good dude. He continues to use his
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: time to point out everybody else's flaws, which happens every season.
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: I don't know why it happens. I don't know how
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: they continue to find the people to do it every season,
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: but they do, and it never goes well and it
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: gets exhausting, I think for Charity, because at some point
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: Charity is going to sit down with the Adrian on
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: a day and be like, okay, well to.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: Get anything in common, because we haven't talked about anything
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: other than other people.
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: So she's gonna end up asking the question because she
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: knows he's the guy, how's everybody else in the house?
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: What's going on? And then they never get to know
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: each other. I think the only, not the only, one
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: of the criticisms of Brayden here in this is he
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: uh you know, on episode one, if you remember, says
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: that he's just too over considerate.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: That's a gross I don't know.
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: His definition of considerate or whatever that means, but he
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: continues to be lacking consideration in this experience, not only
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: in how he comes off the other guys, what he
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: says to the other guys, but also what he's saying
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: to Charity. And how he's reacting to the experience that
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: she's now being thrown into as the leader of the show,
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: knowing that she has to date a bunch of other people.
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: He isn't being considerate, He's being very selfish.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: What did he say at the group day. Specifically at
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: the group day, he just called out Adrian for not
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: being qualified, right.
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: I want to say that he had during the group date,
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: it was mostly just aiding and saying this guy's taking
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: this as a joke, which is fine, but you're seeing
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: it kind of in the house, you know, if he
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: knows that's the concern of maybe just Adrian or others
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: in the house. He's definitely saying things that would rub
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: other people the wrong way to make them look at
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: him be like gosh, dang it, dude, just shut up,
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: stop talking, like, stop saying what you're saying. It's not
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: really until his sit down with Charity where Braden, I think,
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: really shows a selfishness where he's like, hey, I don't
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: like that you did.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: That, which is at the pool party, right.
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: That's a pool party, because pretty much he's saying he
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: said it when he's setting a standard for her to follow,
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: which is unfair. For him right now. Two, he's setting
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: an expectation for her to follow, which is still unfair
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: for him right now. Three he isn't being considerate because
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: if he was being considerate and as he says, overly considerate,
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: he would understand that she's the lead of a show
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: and trying to figure out how to date all these
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: people and build relationships with all these people so that
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: at the end of this she can possibly be with
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: one of them. Consider being considerate, they would be like,
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: I get it, this is weird, this is hard. I'm
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: gonna have my own struggles through this whole thing. But
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: you have to do what you have to do, and
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: hopefully I'm still here at the him because that's how
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: much I care about you, instead of the bantai antithesis
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: of considerate.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but he also she also like apologizes to him,
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: which is like.
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: Too bad, Yeah, she shouldn't do that.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: She's like, I know, I know, I'm just trying to
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: figure things out. Yeah yeah, okay, Wait, let's go back
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: for a second. So their drama at the group date,
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: we where does the spring break term come up? Nobody
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: ever says it feels like spring break? Do they blatantly?
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: I remember, Okay, all right, So I just wanted to
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: clarify that one of the interesting things, and this happens
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: sometimes in the edit, is that John gets the group
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: date Rose, but we do not see them converse very long.
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: It's true, we don't see them converse very long, and
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: I think I don't think it was I think he
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: is secretly a very strong candidate right now, and I
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: don't think his conversations with her are shown a lot,
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: but I believe that they're very comfortable, and I think
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: he's very reassuring. I think he kind of has a
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: demeanor in the spirit of somebody that's definitely there for
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: the right reasons and is taking this as seriously as
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: he possibly can take it at this point in time.
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: I think she's very attracted to him. I think he's
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: very attracted to her, and he's also kind of the
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: he's the pick here for that group day Rose, that's
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: not going to be super controversial. Like there's some people
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: that really thought they deserved it and should have it,
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: and I think there were some people that deserved it
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: and should have it, and he's kind of the one
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: that probably was cool either way, but very excited to
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: have it and that charity probably figured would cause a
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: lot the least amount of drama she gives it to Adrian.
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: Braidens super upset. If she gives it to Braiden, probably
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: Adrian and a few others are upset. I think it
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: was between Xavier and John for this group day Rose,
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: and obviously John got it, and so he was just
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: kind of the safe pick here to say, hey, let's
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: keep this as clean as possible for as long as possible.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: M all right. So I love the second group date.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: This is more up my alley. I love it when
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: it's kind of a game show situation. Gabby and Rachel
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: are there. The boys on the date are John, Henry,
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: Michael Warwick, Spencer, Joey, and Josh. Joey's obviously like the
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: front runner going into this date. Everybody kind of already
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: knows Joey's name. He has a personality that can jumps
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: out a little bit more on scream. So it's all
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: about basically kissing, and I'm like immediately when they say
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: it's the Bachelor record for kissing, I'm like, ah, I
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: remember that being Sean low season, and I remember being like, oh,
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: this is so awkward to have to keep your lips
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: on someone for over who it felt like more than
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: three minutes on Shawn season and it's in public, and
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: it's just like, oh my god, so much. You know
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: you need little breaks. I don't do you agree?
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: Yes, yes, it's just awkward. I mean that's why it's
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: a thing. Is nobody does this, Nobody like this isn't hot,
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: this isn't cool.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: No, it's not.
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: It's literally a competition to say how long can we
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: keep our lips together? But it's not like there's they're
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: lying to you if they're like that was incredibly like
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: for like the first twenty seconds and then it got
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: really boring.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm like, Okay, well this is gonna be
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: interesting but definitely not hot. And I did like the
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: Coole question and answer part. That was really fun and
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: it did get to know I think this is the
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: kind of group date where you can have a lot
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: of guys and get to know their personalities pretty well.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: Three questions like this, now Joey wins the one on
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: Joey Wow. He kind of wins the Q and A,
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: which leads to the kiss, and then that leads to
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: him having a one on one And I like the
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: fact that we're getting to one on ones in the
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: first episode, because usually it's just the standard two group
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: dates and then the one on one we like a
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: little bit of in Micy, Right, So Joey and her
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: go back to like a hotel room, and it is
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: so funny because my friend is like watching this and
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: she and he's like, you know, my family's really important
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: to me, and she like stops and she's like, this
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: is the silliest thing. Like everybody stops the Bachelor a
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: bat Clorette and is like, my family's really important to me.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: Like of course, like how many people are like, you know,
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: family's not a big part of my life.
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: I care less about my friends and family. Yeah.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: Right, And then he just turns it on us and goes,
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: my dad came out when I was in kindergarten. And
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: we're like, okay, selp, you got a really interesting family story.
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, And he does, right, and the way he
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: talks to it and talks talks about it, and you know,
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: I think I think it did. His family's important to him.
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: I'm sure it wasn't always easy. I'm sure it was
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: a you know, there was a lot of conversations that
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: you know, most parents don't have with their kids, but
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: when they do have, I think it brings him closer together.
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: I think we see it in Joey's situation, this group,
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: this after part With me, really it made me more
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: confident in Joey. I remember last week I said, I
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: think there's like gonna be some controversy with Joey. I
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: don't know.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: Why do you think controversy?
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: Well, I mostly I think it was how the last
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: week the preview was edited and how he was like,
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: remember he was the one tongue the tongue, and then
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: like you saw arguments go down afterwards. I didn't know
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: the context for why this kiss was happening in front
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: of all the other guys. I didn't know it was
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: like a set up thing, And so I thought him
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: and Charity had like walked off on the side and
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: like we're seen making out like this in front of everybody,
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: and that he was going to pretty much like throw
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: up the middle finger and be like, hey, screw you all,
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: I'm I'm I'm good. No. Now, with this date, I
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: think it definitely softened what I think of Joey and
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: says no, I think he's gonna be great. I think
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: he's gonna be here for a while. I think he's
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: really in Charity. Now makes sense, so on why he
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: was making out with her in front of other guys.
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: I don't love this for the show. I think this
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: is a fun date.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's weird. It's it's kind of weird. I agree,
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: And that's why I didn't. I mean, I didn't want
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: Brandon to go over and be like, hey, I have
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: problems with you doing that. Yeah, but I do think
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: it's kind of like, oh, that's like a like a.
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: Well, I think it. You know, Charity's brand new into this.
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: I'm sure she has her own strategy on how she
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: wants all these relationships to form and how she wants
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: to cause the least amount of damage to each relationship
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: along the way as she pursues other relationships. One of
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: the ways to do that is to keep your physical
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: touch isolated to when you're in frontment. Yeah, that's just good.
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: It keeps things, keeps things mysterious, it keeps things unknown,
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: And the show definitely set her up to have to
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: have this in public in front of other guys. So
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: I'm wondering, you know, if her fiance feature Beyonce is
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: standing in this group. That's a memory, you know, burt
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: into his mind. Now, how well he'll handle that over time,
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: that's up to him and up to her. But for
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: right now, it's really gonna be hard to be Like.
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: I watched you really make like make make make out
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: with somebody in front of me, and I had to
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: stand there through it and figure out how to be
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: like a decent human during it and not freak out.
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: And I get the freak out. So I think it
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: sets her up for failure a little bit. And so
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: that's why I'm a little upset with Braden and how
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: he handled it. Where it's like, I don't know if
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: Charity wanted to do this or not. I'm sure she
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: didn't find this the most ideal situation, but it was.
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: It was the the date that was planned that she
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: didn't know about. Obviously, it was in a sense it
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: was like an obstacle. You know, every day has its
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: own little obstacles to it. It was her obstacle to complete
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: and to finish and to conquer, to move on then
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: to whatever was next in the season. And I'm hoping
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: that all these guys are like Churity, you did it,
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: if you liked it or not. You did it, you
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: did it well, you got through it, you set the record,
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: and you moved on. But to get upset with her
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: is just unfair.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: Two things. Do you think that this this was the
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: scene with the tongue right in the preview?
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: I think it was. It looked like the best same background.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: I didn't see the actual tongue clip that they showed.
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: I'm glad they didn't.
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: They probably flashed to the other guys during that. I
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: don't know if we did to begin in real time,
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: I don't think we had three and a half full minutes.
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: Awful to you, Yeah, imagine.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: And then uh, Secondly, you just have to on the
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: back end, like you have to kind of like think
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: the pressures of just being like, yeah, am I gonna
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: fight this? No, I'm not going to fight this one.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: There's certain things that you get given as the lead
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: where you're like, I really don't want to do this,
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: Like let's talk this out, like let's figure out what
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: we how do we get away around the situation with production? Right,
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: And then there's stuff like this where you're just like
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: it's silly, it's a show, let's just go with it,
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: go with it.
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: I mean it's yeah, it's just silly. This is not
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: a This is not hey go up on stage and
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: like have the hottest thing of your life in front
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: of all these other dudes.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: That's not kind of like straddling each other too.
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: They're standing up in front of a group of people
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: that are cheering, and they're being like commentated on. This
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: is nothing romantic. Yeah, but I will say their evening
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: portion was more romantic. And I do think Joey is
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: a front runner. I think he definitely stands out. I'm
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: going to be shocked if he goes home anytime soon.
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: I think his I think his relationship with Charity is
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: is probably even above Aaron Bees at this point.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: Really, I think she likes Aaron Bee more for some reason.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: I think she connects with him more emotionally, but I
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: think that she's more physically maybe into Joey.
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: Well, I think they're both front runners. I think if
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: I had to make my list, they're one and two
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: either direction.
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: Right now, one and two mm hmm, no way, Yeah.
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: It would be above them.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: When I look at the list. Maybe you're right. I mean, Braiden, honestly,
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: Branden would for her, I mean for her right now,
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: right there in her head, she's thinking about Braiden more
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: than joe I think.
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: No. I think at this point after episode two, she's
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: starting to get a very clear picture of who Braiden is.
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: I think she, Yes, she apologized to him, Yes she
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: handled that conversation how she needs to. But I think
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: she is very aware and in tune with the communication
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: going on, where she's like, this is getting weird, like
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: this is my brother said something. He's already said a
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: few things that have like kind of thrown me off. Like,
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: I think her comfort and her romantic or like relationship
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: with Braiden is definitely far below what it is with
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: Joey and Aaron.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: B Okay, okay, okay, we'll see. Well, let's go to
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: the pool party. Classic story. The cocktail party is canceled
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: because where's a pool party? Like, you know what? One
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: time I want them to throw us a twist and
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: be like guess what, guys. Week two, everything's canceled, see it.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: The row ceremony, Yeah, without bringing the pool party in.
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: And we've said it every season, the pool party is
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: never a party.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: It's I hate it. I hated the pool party. These
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: things are meant to happen at night in a more
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: romantic atmosphere, and the pool party is.
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: Such a weird idea. It's like, Okay, you have one
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: girl and like twenty five dudes, like what party?
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: Exactly?
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: What? They're all going to be like fighting after charity,
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: She's gonna be being pulled left and right, and they're
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: all going to be swimming in the pool and a
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: bunch of dudes are going to be playing chicken with
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: them on their shoulders, and she's gonna be on some
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: other guys like it doesn't happen.
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: I thank you for saying that, because at night, when
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: it's all glamorous, makes sense for the guys to be like,
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: can I take you aside? Can I? Just everything just
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: feels more of like a ball, like they're courting you
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: in a Bridgington way, and the pool bard is just
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: like black let's have beers and get sloppy, all right.
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: So the only like the thing that I really remember
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: from this, of course, is first we've talked about how
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: Braiden pulls her aside, But what we don't we haven't
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: talked about yet is then Adrian pulls her aside and
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: is like I just want to reiterate the whole spring
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: break conversation I'm having, Uh, it's Brayden, and I don't
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: know that I really I don't really trust this guy. Again,
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: doesn't really crack a smile the entire time. He you know, Basically,
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: the reveal here is that Braiden is the one that
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: is giving him spring break feels. And then she's like really,
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: and then we never see her address Braiden again, so
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: either not that big of a deal or they did
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: address it and not just didn't keep it in there.
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: Then goes to the rose ceremony. Of course it's going
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: to go to the two of them at the end,
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: and then of course the two of them are going
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: to get roses. But what was telling to me and like,
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: you keep fighting it. She definitely gave Branden the last
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: rose because of dramatic factor, but she got giddy when
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: she gave him that rose. She was like, I finally
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: give it to you, and then they were all tachi
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: and giggly.
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: Well, Jessica watched that part with me.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: She was like, she likes him.
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, she hasn't watched the first two episodes, but she
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: watched this part and when she watched she I said
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: what do you think of this dude? That's all I
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: asked her. And she watched like his kind of monologue
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: there where he was speaking to camera and then gets
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: the rose and she's like she really likes it him. Yea,
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: she could tell. Yeah, she might be a little giddy.
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: I just don't think it has the depth. Again, I'll
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: go back. I don't think it has the depth of
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: If I'm putting a bet on this right now, it's
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: Aaron b and Joey above Braiden here. You know at
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: this point too, like you said at the beginning, Adrian
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: is not without fault here. Even Xavier comments on the
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: fact that Adrian continues to kind of be this not
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: for the right reasons police. Exavier says, come on, dude,
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: what are you doing? Yeah?
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: I like that. I was like, yes, thank you for
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: just saying, like, why do you even care?
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: And if I'm a buddy of Adrian in the house,
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: like if I'm close enough in a friend with him,
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: I'm pulling him aside and being like, hey, I get
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: that you have weird feelings. We all do, like about Braiden,
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: Like it's it's not a secret. You just don't have
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: to get a guy like, you don't have to carry
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: you don't have to carry the weight to this for
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: the whole cast. You just got to focus on Charity
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: because at the end of the day, this is going
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: to destroy relationship with Charity and you're only going to
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: be known as the guy who is policing and comedy
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: on Braiden, which is odd in itself. One thing we
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: haven't got to yet. The guys that get a rose
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: this week are Doton Tanner, Caleb b Warwick, Michael Sean,
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: Xavier Aaron s, James Adrim Braiden, Joey Aaron and John
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: already had roses. So the guys that go home, a
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: lot of them we don't even know yet. I can't
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: even tell you their names.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: We got rid of two Calebs, though I can tell
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: you that we got.
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: Rid of two Caleb's big deal for the rest of
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: the season. The other one is my dude Spencer that
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: I wanted to see more of, that I wanted to
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: understand more of. I think was let go. He is
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: the one with the child who spoke at Charity last week,
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: who I said just kind of like was an awkward conversationalist,
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: but I wanted to know more about him because I
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: don't think he's super awkward or super weird. But we
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: never got to see him again, so he had like
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: one little moment there and we have nothing else to
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: base it on. But I do think he goes home
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: this week.
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: But there's multiple guys with kids, right.
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: There are multiple multiple guys with kids, But he was
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: Spencer was the one that sat down to the fireplace
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: and we both agreed, like the conversation was just awkward,
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: Like it just felt weird. It felt like he was
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: trying really hard.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: Oh that's Spencer. Yeah, Okay, that was weird because I
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: actually thought he was going to play a bigger role
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: in this season, right. I thought he was going to
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: be the token awkward guy that would like creep in
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: on situations and would be there for humor's sake.
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah he's not, And I'm sad about that because I
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: wanted to get to know more about him. I think
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: he probably had a really cool story, and I think
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: his you know, his first week. He can't judge somebody
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: in their first week's impression because it's so it's so
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: nerve wracking, So I want to see more of them.
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: He does get on the group date for the kiss,
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: but he doesn't really say much. But he's gone this week. Okay,
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: final question of the day for you, Ashley, as we
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: prepare here to talk about the sneak peak for the
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: following weeks. You had said something last week about Braden's ear.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: Rings earrings, and he brought it. He brought the he
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: brought the earring game. This week he had so many
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: earring changes. Now, no, my fault.
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: That's what I wondered, is is that a cool thing?
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: Like is?
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: Uh? I would never be into a guy that was
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: wearing earrings like that. It would be like we'll throw
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: me off a bit, and that I mean like that
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: in a sexual sense. Like I would never be like, ah,
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: those earrings on you really turned me on, except for
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: the little diamond studs aka like ad justin Timberlake that
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: that he wore the first week. That was like like those.
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: It's weird how some guys can just get away with
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: diamond earrings, right, But like, could you I mentionine yourself
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: wearing diamond earrings? Actually, I can imagine you wearing diamonds
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: and getting away with it way better than Jared gerould
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: look super weird in it. You'd actually maybe look good No.
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: That's it's that's that's not a look.
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: Did you ever know you're a little.
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: Had never had a near ringe. I wasn't against it.
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: I probably had thought about it because they used to
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: be really cool to have.
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: They were so cool.
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: But no, I've never I've never had them, And if
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: I had them today, I think I would just personally
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: feel very awkward, not because I don't think they're cool,
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: sometimes just because for me, I just don't feel like
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: they fit me very well at all.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: I think diamond studs, you know, at a certain time
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: and place, at that time and place that you were
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: on that cop show, Yeah, I.
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: Don't think when I found the cocaine on the beach
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: in Miami, that would have been the time.
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: And what was the line at the end of the show.
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: With my hookah necklace, I saw I found cocaine, or
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: I salt Tities and found cocaine the best spring break ever.
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: You look that up on through TV. It's South Beach,
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: Miami and find my little sophomore high school self finding
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: cocaine washed up on the beach and saying the stupidest
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: quote of all.
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: Time, Cities and cocaine, best spring freak ever. With some
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: Diamond Studs. I've been super cute.
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: If you don't know where we're talking about, go Google. Okay,
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: sneak peak for next week. Really, nothing in this stands out.
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: To me, nothing least dramatic review ever.
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: So let's bounce into Bachelor headlines. There's some controversy this
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: week actually in Bachelor Nation, maybe not with contestants themselves,
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: but just with how things have played out. One of
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: our rival podcasts, Bachelor Happy Hour, has made headlines.
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: Joe and Serena are the new Bachelor Happy Hour hosts
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: and they have big shoes to fill, they say they do.
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: Beck and Michelle are the hosts of that. Becca has
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: been the consistent host fat for a while. Thomas Jacob
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: kind of came out yeah, commented how sad it was
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: that Becka and Michelle were released from the show without
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: even a good bye episode. M h.
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: I think there's an illusion that there was like some
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: shade there, yeah, that they yeah, like why would they
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: do that to them without giving them an option. I
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: think they're mad because I think that it was just
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: an executive decision to have Joe and Siran in and
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: they just had no warning at the end of their season,
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: but it has been a rotating cast for quite some time.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: There was I first started out with Rachel. Oh no,
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: it was Rachel and Ali.
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Rachel and Ali started it, and then.
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: It was Rachel and Becca, and then Beca and anybody else?
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: Or did Michelle go right in after Rachel.
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: I think Michelle stepped in, and I don't. I think
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: Tasha might have sat in for that's a ship.
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: May have been there for a while too.
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I mean Beca's been around there a while.
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: I get it, like all of a sudden, iHeart calls
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: you nine says hey, almost famous podcast is changing hosts.
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: You're out, and we don't get the say anything about it.
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: We don't get to come on for like a final Hey,
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: thank you for the years that we've gotten to speak
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: with all of you and share emails with all of
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: you and talk about this show with all of you.
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: You kind of feel like, okay, well you get pushed out,
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: which would just be weird. And it doesn't sound like
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: they get pushed out based on ratings or listeners or
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: bad behavior. It just sounds like they got changed up
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: based on negotiations. Maybe I don't know.
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: Well. Thomas also said that they're not really into watching
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: the show this season because of the bad taste left
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: in their mouth because of this move.
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: Well that's not fair to charity.
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but they're talking about water.
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: Oh there's upset, there's probably. I mean Becka came on
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: and co hosted this with me for a bit when
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: you were out and had said then like she didn't
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: really know what was going on, but they hadn't record
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: We're in a few weeks and she was kind of wondering,
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: we wish Joe. I mean, this is this is nothing
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: to do with Joe and Srena stepping into this bachelor
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: happy hour, you know, Joe.
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: I like the fact a married couple is going to
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: be breaking it down.
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: Sure, and Joe and Joe has been around Warner Brothers
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: now for years doing projects for them. When it comes
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: to podcasts and shows and hosting things started on clickbait clickbait.
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: But I do think you know, it's in a transition season,
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: which is always interesting, but you can always listen to us.
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: We're not changing. We're gonna be here and we're not
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: mad at each other.
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: We're not trying to plug the other podcast here. It's
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: too much drum over there. Guys, just stay where it's stable.
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: Stay here and almost famous. Hey, next headline is this
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: Bachelor Nations Julia Kenny, Marys, Evan Bass's brother Aaron Bass,
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: and King Kune.
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm okay. So they've been together for a long
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: time and engaged for a long time. So I wasn't
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: even sure that they weren't secretly married like had done
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: a courthouse wedding. But they had the real wedding six
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: years after meeting in Mexico and one child. They were
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: in Cancun and it was this past Friday, June thirtieth,
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: in front of friends and family, including of course his
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: brother Evan. It's always just so crazy to me because
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: Carly and Julia were the best of friends, which is
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: why the two of them well, which is why Carly
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: introduced Well, I guess it's not a real introduction because
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: it happened at the wedding, but Carly loved the fact
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: that Julia was dating her then brother in law. But
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: now they're no longer brother in law, so we're was
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: Carly at the wedding. Wait, I have got to find
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: this out. I've got a text Carly that's freaking crazy, right,
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: what do you do in a situation like that, But
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: your bestie ends up marrying your past brother in law,
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: your ex brother in law.
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: It's not about you. You just smile, You go through it,
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: you show up, you do your best you can. You
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: know it's awkward, you know it's weird, but you don't
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: take any attention on yourself. Yeah, it's the best way
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: to do it.
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they've been planning a wedding for a while, they said,
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: but but the COVID got in the life.
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well it is a little bit of a oh.
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: We have an answer, okay. Carly actually told us Weekly
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: in April that she was going to be skipping the
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: wedding to avoid causing a distraction on Julia's big day.
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: She said, if I'm there, lots of people could be uncomfortable,
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: and we don't need that to be the focus. So instead,
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: I'm going to FaceTime her. The whole day is she's
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: getting ready and drink champagne with her via FaceTime. It's
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: Evans brother, it's his family and friends, and I think
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: that takes priority. That's actually really really awesome of Carly,
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: and I would obviously expect no less.
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's great. That's a good, good choice, So Carly
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: was not at the wedding. Reporting right now, we're reporting
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: it bach Nations. Tasha Adams says she has become more
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: private since her split with Zach Clark.
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: This according to E News, she said that her life
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: was pretty exposed at one point, nothing was really her own,
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: and I think there's a lot of beauty in that,
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: because you create a community of people that really care
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: about you and they want to see you do well
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: and root for you. But at the same time, it's
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: not normal to have every aspect of your life out there.
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: So she's been taking a step back because she says,
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: I think as a human you look for validation everywhere,
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: and it was just becoming an unhealthy, an unhealthy thing
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: for me. So there are some aspects of my life
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: that I like to keep a bit private, and when
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: I'm ready to announce things, I'll do it. But other
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: than that, it's just a balance of what you're okay with.
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: And I think that we're all kind of curious whether
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: she's still dating Loop from Summerhouse. Right. They have not publicly,
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: you know, come out there with their relationship on their
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: own Instagram, but they were seeing looking at rings in
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: April rings like engaging rings.
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: It feels like it's serious.
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that sounds like it's serious. I hope.
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: Well that's all we have for you today. We'll be
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: back next week breaking down Week three of Charity season
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: of The Bachelorette. Just pretty fans out there who have
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: been watching and wondering. Yes, I don't think Week two
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: was as good as Week one on this Bachelorette season.
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: Because we didn't have our brother in a costume.
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: That's probably it, but we also have to remember that
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: week's two, three, and sometimes even four kind of they
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: get slow. They get slow, and then they pick up again. Right.
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: Weeks five on are really exciting. We start to know
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: the cast better, we start to hear more of the
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: cast stories, and so just you got to just kind
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: of plug through, stay in. I know it's a late night,
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: I know it's a long watch, but if you plug through,
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: I do think this season is going to end and
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: everybody's gonna really satisfied.
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: People do that with so many other shows. How many
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: shows do people tell you, Ben, You've got to watch this,
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: but then you watch it and you're like, uh, the
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: first four episodes were so boring until I got there Yeah,
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: it's like a normal TV show thing to do. And
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: the first episode I still thought was really great. And
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: I've heard from other people that popped into Audrey's and
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: talked about the episode they agree it was a good
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: first episode. All right. Well, until next time, enjoy the
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: Fourth of July. People. It is the fourth of July
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: as we speak, So go spend some great family time.
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: Yay America and Independence, and have a good couple burgers
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: and hot dogs for us. Bye, guys, I've been Ashley.
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: I've been dead calculated.
• 48:47
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