Latest / The MeatEater Podcast / Ep. 672: MeatEater Radio Live! Clearing Trails, Getting Roasted, and Beaver Pillows
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- 0:04Speaker 1: Smell us now, lady, Welcome to Meet Eater Trivia mea podcast.
- 0:26Speaker 2: Welcome to Meet Eater Radio Live. It's eleven am Mountain Time.
- 0:30Speaker 2: That's seven pm Hungry time for those listeners in Hungary
- 0:33Speaker 2: on Thursday, March sixth and we're live from Meet Eater
- 0:37Speaker 2: HQ and Bozeman, Montana. I'm your host, Randall Williams, joined
- 0:41Speaker 2: today by Maggie Hudlow and Brody Henderson. On today's show,
- 0:46Speaker 2: we're kicking off a new segment called fake News. We'll
- 0:49Speaker 2: call in with Rebecca Powell from the Bob Marshall Wilderness Foundation.
- 0:53Speaker 2: We're gonna take you backstage for a look at Meat
- 0:55Speaker 2: Eater's new culinary show, Meet Eater ROAs. We'll chat with
- 0:59Speaker 2: Caitlin Lo Spinoso aka Old Trapper Kate, and we'll round
- 1:03Speaker 2: out the show with another long awaited Meat Eater movie Club.
- 1:08Speaker 2: Maggie and Brody, how are you guys doing?
- 1:10Speaker 3: Doing great? Not so bad?
- 1:12Speaker 2: Lovely?
- 1:13Speaker 4: How are you doing, Randall?
- 1:14Speaker 2: I'm doing well. I'm doing well. It's great to have
- 1:17Speaker 2: you here at Bozeman HQ.
- 1:19Speaker 4: It's good to be here.
- 1:21Speaker 2: Well. First up, in a new segment we're calling fake News.
- 1:26Speaker 2: I'm going to share a selectively edited hunting or fishing
- 1:30Speaker 2: related headline from the news, and Brody and Maggie need
- 1:33Speaker 2: to fill in the blank with multiple choice options. Only
- 1:37Speaker 2: one of these is true according to this news article.
- 1:43Speaker 2: And here's where we'll add Phil's drop in later. Phil's
- 1:46Speaker 2: just had.
- 1:46Speaker 3: A really busy week.
- 1:47Speaker 2: Kind of apologies to the listeners out there, Phil, what
- 1:49Speaker 2: do you have to say.
- 1:50Speaker 3: I don't need to disappoint anybody. It's been a crazy
- 1:52Speaker 3: week here at Meat Eater HQ. We got a lot
- 1:54Speaker 3: of new projects happening, and so I didn't have time
- 1:57Speaker 3: to make a drop this week. I do have an idea,
- 2:00Speaker 3: but then we thought we'd bring Chili in and then
- 2:02Speaker 3: he whimped out, Chili, if you're watching, good job. So
- 2:06Speaker 3: now we have nothing for you. And frankly, it's all
- 2:08Speaker 3: Chili's fault.
- 2:09Speaker 5: Yeah, Chilli's working on me roast right now. Phil.
- 2:13Speaker 2: Well, the thing is is he he had agreed to
- 2:16Speaker 2: do this, but then he said he couldn't figure out
- 2:17Speaker 2: the chords, the chord progression, so he did WI. Yeah.
- 2:23Speaker 3: Yeah, So just imagine something. If you guys want to
- 2:26Speaker 3: make some pitches in the live chat, I will read them,
- 2:28Speaker 3: not necessarily take them into consideration, but if you have
- 2:32Speaker 3: a really good one, you might break through the ceiling.
- 2:35Speaker 2: And I know it sounds like we're just killing time here,
- 2:38Speaker 2: but I really think that with the announcement, with the
- 2:41Speaker 2: announcement of the new segment, folks were keyed up, they
- 2:46Speaker 2: were ready to go. So just imagine in your head
- 2:48Speaker 2: what this would sound.
- 2:49Speaker 5: The live viewer counting that Phil's drops are the best
- 2:54Speaker 5: part of the whole damn show.
- 2:55Speaker 2: I know, I know, I already feel like this show's
- 2:58Speaker 2: a flop. On first head line, Phil.
- 3:01Speaker 3: Sure thing, I'm using the slideshow for the very first time.
- 3:04Speaker 2: They are a So this is our first headline. Rocky
- 3:09Speaker 2: Mountain National Park has too many A trails, Rocky Mountain
- 3:15Speaker 2: National Park has too many b elk Rocky Mountain National
- 3:19Speaker 2: Park has too many C visitors, or Rocky Mountain National
- 3:23Speaker 2: Park has too many D moose.
- 3:26Speaker 5: So we're looking for the one that's that's fake, where.
- 3:30Speaker 2: You're looking for the one that's true, for true, the
- 3:33Speaker 2: actual headline.
- 3:36Speaker 4: Okay, I'm gonna say b elk.
- 3:41Speaker 2: Mag says b Elk.
- 3:43Speaker 5: God, I think I just read an article about something else,
- 3:47Speaker 5: Like I know they've had too many elk at one time,
- 3:50Speaker 5: but I think the headline might be moose.
- 3:53Speaker 4: That was my other thoughts.
- 3:54Speaker 2: Moose is your final answer? Brody gets it?
- 3:58Speaker 6: Phil?
- 3:58Speaker 2: Do we have like a ding ding ding?
- 4:00Speaker 3: If I were a professional engineer, I would have one prepared.
- 4:03Speaker 5: But oh gosh. Well, although I could find you a
- 4:06Speaker 5: headline that says they have too many elk, I could.
- 4:09Speaker 2: Find you a headline that says they have too many
- 4:10Speaker 2: visitors as well. This one comes from our friends at
- 4:14Speaker 2: Outdoor Life. While moose populations are down across much of
- 4:18Speaker 2: their range in North America, Colorado is a noteworthy exception.
- 4:22Speaker 2: In Rocky Mountain National Park, wildlife managers are concerned that
- 4:25Speaker 2: a moose population growing at five percent year over year
- 4:29Speaker 2: is having a deleterious effect on wetland habitats and willow growth.
- 4:33Speaker 2: A single moose can consume up to forty five pounds
- 4:36Speaker 2: of willows in a day. In some areas of the
- 4:39Speaker 2: park have seen a decline of up to eighty percent
- 4:41Speaker 2: of their willows since nineteen ninety nine.
- 4:44Speaker 5: The wolves will take care of that problem for too long,
- 4:48Speaker 5: Just give it a little time.
- 4:49Speaker 2: I almost added wolves in there as an option, but
- 4:52Speaker 2: I thought it might be two on the nose and
- 4:53Speaker 2: perhaps you know, traumatizing or triggering to some of our audience.
- 5:00Speaker 2: Onto our second headline, here, philm can wildlife heal? Blank?
- 5:05Speaker 2: The science behind nature's unexpected remedy? The first answer is
- 5:10Speaker 2: a chronic pain. The second is PTSD post traumatic stress
- 5:16Speaker 2: disorder c IS autoimmune disorder d IS hypertension. What are
- 5:24Speaker 2: we think of here?
- 5:25Speaker 7: Gang?
- 5:25Speaker 2: What can nature heal? According to this article?
- 5:29Speaker 5: Go ahead, Maggie, you pick yours?
- 5:32Speaker 4: Ha I'm I'm gonna go B again PTSD.
- 5:37Speaker 2: I'm gonna go see hmmm, well it's one to one Gang.
- 5:42Speaker 2: The correct answer is b PTSD. Thank you, Corey. Is
- 5:48Speaker 2: this show's really taken off? This one comes from sie
- 5:51Speaker 2: Tech Daily. Researchers from the University of Massachusetts studied nineteen
- 5:55Speaker 2: veterans with PTSD and observed notable psychological benefit. It's particularly
- 6:01Speaker 2: reduced levels of anxiety among those who engaged in visits
- 6:05Speaker 2: to wildlife sanctuaries, participated in wildlife care at rehabilitation centers,
- 6:09Speaker 2: and engaged in bird watching, according to doctor Donna Perry.
- 6:13Speaker 2: While many studies involving interactions between humans and other species
- 6:17Speaker 2: aimed at improving psychological or physical health have involved domestic animals.
- 6:22Speaker 2: Few studies have focused on wildlife.
- 6:26Speaker 5: I think that's great news, but I don't think it's
- 6:28Speaker 5: new news. People have been doing, you know, like when
- 6:33Speaker 5: I was a guide, we used to do h like
- 6:36Speaker 5: wounded warrior things. Yeah, in the outdoors.
- 6:39Speaker 2: And the news is that we have the study to
- 6:42Speaker 2: back it up. Phil Once you read me the date
- 6:43Speaker 2: on that article.
- 6:45Speaker 3: It says March sixth, twenty five, Holy crap.
- 6:48Speaker 2: That's today's news. Brody.
- 6:50Speaker 5: Yeah, well, like I said, don't think it's new news, boy.
- 6:55Speaker 2: Rocky, start here onto our third headline. I kind of
- 7:02Speaker 2: like this bit though.
- 7:03Speaker 3: It's fun, and I would this is kind of a
- 7:05Speaker 3: dry run. If people like it, we'll be back with
- 7:08Speaker 3: bells and whistles and hopefully Brody will be more excited.
- 7:11Speaker 8: Yeah.
- 7:11Speaker 5: Well, it's not that I'm not excited. Like, I like
- 7:13Speaker 5: it because I like arguing and you know, and trivia
- 7:16Speaker 5: Spencer just doesn't put up with arguing about his questions.
- 7:19Speaker 4: So you know, I know the answer to this one.
- 7:25Speaker 5: Yeah, this one's been all over the.
- 7:26Speaker 2: Place, but I thought my answers are so clever.
- 7:31Speaker 3: Well, let's let's read the headline for the audio listeners.
- 7:33Speaker 2: Here blank for dinner California officials urge residents to eat
- 7:38Speaker 2: invasive blank Your options are skate for dinner. California officials
- 7:44Speaker 2: urge residents to eat invasive sting rays frog legs for dinner.
- 7:49Speaker 2: California officials urge residents to eat invasive bullfrogs, rodent for dinner.
- 7:54Speaker 2: California officials urge residents to eat invasive nutria or d
- 7:59Speaker 2: cactus for dinner. California officials urge residents to eat invasive
- 8:04Speaker 2: African prickly pair.
- 8:05Speaker 4: It's z nutria.
- 8:08Speaker 2: Well, we've got a tie game, gang.
- 8:12Speaker 3: There's a sound. I found one.
- 8:13Speaker 2: The correct is rodent for dinner. California officials urge residents
- 8:17Speaker 2: to eat invasive nutria. According to an article in the Guardian,
- 8:21Speaker 2: This call to action came during National Invasive Species Awareness
- 8:25Speaker 2: Week in late February. Neutrio were believed to have been
- 8:28Speaker 2: eradicated from the Golden State in the nineteen seventies, but
- 8:32Speaker 2: a growing population was detected in the Sacramento San Joaquin
- 8:35Speaker 2: River Delta in twenty seventeen. The California Department of Fish
- 8:39Speaker 2: and Wildlife has removed some five thy five hundred nutria
- 8:42Speaker 2: from these wetlands so far, and federal officials are trying
- 8:46Speaker 2: to make the consumption of nutrias somewhat enticing by drawing
- 8:50Speaker 2: similarities to the taste of rabbit or dark turkey meat. Resources,
- 8:54Speaker 2: including recipes for nutrient dishes such as stews and chili,
- 8:57Speaker 2: are available on nutria dot com.
- 9:00Speaker 4: Yeah, the New York Times really didn't do a good
- 9:02Speaker 4: job of selling it. Their headline. Their headline was keep
- 9:07Speaker 4: invasive species in check. Eat a big rat like rodent.
- 9:12Speaker 5: I think. I think the funny thing about this is
- 9:15Speaker 5: that this is coming out of California, which is like
- 9:19Speaker 5: one of the most anti hunting states in the country,
- 9:24Speaker 5: and they're like, oh, yeah, go kill these things.
- 9:26Speaker 2: That's a lot of dead things.
- 9:27Speaker 5: I know. But they need to call uh, they need
- 9:31Speaker 5: to call our old friend Mark Kendrick, who uh see
- 9:35Speaker 5: the chessbeak. Hemanaged Operation Rolling Thunder in the Chesapeake Bay,
- 9:40Speaker 5: which is like the only place they fully eradicated those things.
- 9:45Speaker 2: Yeah, I gotta say, I wasn't California nutrier. We're not
- 9:49Speaker 2: on my radar.
- 9:50Speaker 5: Yeah. I mean, they scattered those things all over the
- 9:53Speaker 5: place to create, you know, a fur industry back in
- 9:56Speaker 5: the day, I believe.
- 9:57Speaker 2: Yeah, I will point out that there is an invasive
- 10:00Speaker 2: African prickly pair cactus called the Devil's cactus.
- 10:03Speaker 5: Sounds nice.
- 10:04Speaker 2: Yeah, I did a little bit of research. Uh no,
- 10:08Speaker 2: I don't think so. We don't have a tie breaker yet.
- 10:12Speaker 2: That's a little wrinkle we should add next time we
- 10:14Speaker 2: do this.
- 10:14Speaker 3: So let's hold on. Let I just want to make
- 10:16Speaker 3: sure we have this all correct. There was no drop, yes,
- 10:19Speaker 3: no sound effects. I'll take credit for that. Yes, no tiebreaker.
- 10:25Speaker 3: How do we feel this segment went?
- 10:26Speaker 2: You know, I like it. I think I like potential.
- 10:29Speaker 2: I think it's got real potential. Brody observed to me
- 10:34Speaker 2: yesterday when we're sort of going over this that this
- 10:36Speaker 2: would be a segment best played with some of our
- 10:38Speaker 2: less uh less news following crew members. Yes, sure, the
- 10:45Speaker 2: online Yeah, the less online people would probably have more
- 10:48Speaker 2: fun with this one. But I was pleased that you
- 10:50Speaker 2: both didn't get all of them right.
- 10:51Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, So earn something new every day.
- 10:54Speaker 2: Man, that's a start. Fantastic gang, Thank you. Joining us
- 11:00Speaker 2: on the line first is Rebecca Powell, the program director
- 11:04Speaker 2: for the Bob Marshall Wilderness Foundation. Rebecca, welcome to the show.
- 11:09Speaker 6: Hey, thanks for having me. Happy to be here. Great show.
- 11:14Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, yeah, it can only go on from here.
- 11:16Speaker 3: So I love honesty, Rebecca.
- 11:18Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you're glad that said that first segment didn't
- 11:21Speaker 2: kill Huh. It's tough act to follow. First thing, can
- 11:25Speaker 2: you tell us a little bit about the Bob Marshall
- 11:27Speaker 2: Wilderness Foundation and maybe for folks that are not from
- 11:30Speaker 2: this part of the world, what the Bob Marshall Wilderness is.
- 11:36Speaker 9: Yeah.
- 11:37Speaker 7: So I am the program director at the bon Marshall
- 11:39Speaker 7: Wilderness Foundation. We're a nonprofit partner of the Forest Service
- 11:43Speaker 7: and we help steward the one point six million acre
- 11:47Speaker 7: Bob Marshall Wilderness Complex.
- 11:48Speaker 6: So the Bob Marsha Wilderness Complex.
- 11:51Speaker 7: Is a northwest Montana kind of below Glacier National Park,
- 11:55Speaker 7: above Yellowstone and Missoula area, and it makes three wilderness areas.
- 12:02Speaker 7: So there's the Great Bear to the north, the Bob
- 12:04Speaker 7: Marshall in the middle, and the Scapegoat Wilderness on the
- 12:07Speaker 7: south end, and together that makes up the one point
- 12:10Speaker 7: six Bob Marshall Wilderness Complex that we all just refer
- 12:14Speaker 7: to as the Bob. So that is a little bit
- 12:17Speaker 7: about the Bob Marshall Wilderness and us as a nonprofit organization,
- 12:22Speaker 7: we're pretty small. We have seven full time, year round staff.
- 12:25Speaker 7: We've been around for almost thirty years, and you know,
- 12:29Speaker 7: the Bob Foundation started as a place for volunteers to
- 12:35Speaker 7: get together and help clear those secondary trails and do
- 12:39Speaker 7: some of the trail maintenance that wasn't getting done as
- 12:42Speaker 7: Foreign Service was facing those budget cuts.
- 12:45Speaker 6: As we've evolved, you know, we've gone.
- 12:47Speaker 7: From more than just moving dirt and now as an organization,
- 12:50Speaker 7: we do a lot of education about wilderness. We do
- 12:54Speaker 7: have a pretty robust internship program. We have some traditional
- 12:59Speaker 7: skills programs such as packing.
- 13:03Speaker 6: We have Artists Wilderness.
- 13:05Speaker 7: Connection program where we partner with the Hockaday Museum of
- 13:08Speaker 7: Art in the Flathead National Forest and place a few
- 13:11Speaker 7: artists in the back country each season to do some art.
- 13:15Speaker 7: And then, of course the Bread and Butter is our
- 13:17Speaker 7: volunteer program, so we have about forty projects usually each
- 13:22Speaker 7: season that we take volunteers out.
- 13:24Speaker 6: We have anything from you.
- 13:26Speaker 7: Know, a day like National Trails Day doing a day
- 13:29Speaker 7: of trail work, to ten day trips where you're in
- 13:33Speaker 7: the back country for ten days.
- 13:35Speaker 6: All of them are led by one of our crew leaders.
- 13:37Speaker 7: We provide food and pack support, all the tools, and
- 13:42Speaker 7: those opportunities are free for anybody who wants to join,
- 13:46Speaker 7: given that it's within your physical limitations to do it. Yeah,
- 13:52Speaker 7: And a lot of our work with the volunteers is
- 13:54Speaker 7: clearing trails, is brushing, you know that all they're off
- 13:58Speaker 7: the trails, clearing drains and improving tread. We do some
- 14:04Speaker 7: work on some of those admin cabins of the back country,
- 14:08Speaker 7: you know, rebuilding corrals, that kind of stuff.
- 14:12Speaker 2: And there's some there's some unique challenges to that type
- 14:15Speaker 2: of work in a wilderness area. Can you tell us
- 14:18Speaker 2: a little bit about what a what a day of
- 14:20Speaker 2: trail maintenance looks like for a volunteer crew.
- 14:24Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 14:24Speaker 7: So I always tell our crew leaders that they have
- 14:28Speaker 7: the hardest job within the complex because they're training new
- 14:32Speaker 7: volunteers each each week, you know, so depending on their
- 14:36Speaker 7: hitch schedule, volunteer show up at a trailhead. We have
- 14:39Speaker 7: up to eight to ten volunteers each project that meet
- 14:43Speaker 7: a crew leader at the trailhead. We have volunteer packers
- 14:46Speaker 7: that use horses and mules that carry in all the
- 14:49Speaker 7: food and tool and group gear into a backcountry site
- 14:52Speaker 7: and we set up a base camp and work on
- 14:54Speaker 7: that base camp for however many days the trip is
- 14:58Speaker 7: and because it's a designation wilderness, you know, no mechanized
- 15:03Speaker 7: use within the wilderness. So we're using cross cut saws, handsaws,
- 15:07Speaker 7: pulaskis looppers, that kind of stuff. And all the stuff
- 15:10Speaker 7: that we get is transported into the back country with
- 15:13Speaker 7: horses and mules. So it's primitive. Uh, it's uh, just how.
- 15:18Speaker 6: We like it.
- 15:19Speaker 2: A lot of sweat.
- 15:21Speaker 6: It is a lot of sut and you know, volers
- 15:23Speaker 6: are they're they're into it.
- 15:25Speaker 4: Man.
- 15:25Speaker 7: People like to work hard and it's impressive to see
- 15:28Speaker 7: the amount of people that come out and want to
- 15:30Speaker 7: do hard work with us.
- 15:32Speaker 2: That's great. Recently, we've been covering a lot of the uh,
- 15:37Speaker 2: the layoffs affecting our public land management agencies, the Forest
- 15:41Speaker 2: Service included. Can you can you speak to how those
- 15:46Speaker 2: cuts at the Forest Service are affecting your organization sort
- 15:50Speaker 2: of how you interface with the Forest Service.
- 15:54Speaker 7: Yeah, there's a lot of ways that that's affecting our organization.
- 15:59Speaker 7: We are, like you know, we pride ourselves on the
- 16:01Speaker 7: relationship that we have at the Forest Service, the folks
- 16:04Speaker 7: at the district level within those others five districts that
- 16:08Speaker 7: manage the Bam Martial Wilderness Complex, and we are.
- 16:11Speaker 6: Are close with all of them.
- 16:12Speaker 7: So each season around January or so, we meet with
- 16:16Speaker 7: those trails and wilderness folks and ask them like, hey,
- 16:19Speaker 7: where do you guys need help?
- 16:20Speaker 6: How can we help you get some volunteers in?
- 16:23Speaker 7: And that's how we build our summer schedule and work
- 16:26Speaker 7: through that, and then.
- 16:28Speaker 6: Once the field season starts.
- 16:29Speaker 7: You know, those folks that are on the ground for
- 16:31Speaker 7: the Forest Service, those river rangers, those trail crews, those
- 16:34Speaker 7: backcountry rangers, those are the people that we're communicating with
- 16:38Speaker 7: on our trips. We're checking in on the radio every
- 16:40Speaker 7: day with those folks where they're flagging out the work
- 16:44Speaker 7: we need to do. Maybe they're out there a couple
- 16:46Speaker 7: of days before that we show up and they're flagging
- 16:49Speaker 7: out where to put a drain, you know, or to
- 16:53Speaker 7: clean up a campsite.
- 16:54Speaker 6: Or that kind of stuff.
- 16:55Speaker 7: And the complex has experienced significant workforce cuts over the
- 17:01Speaker 7: over the last few weeks.
- 17:02Speaker 6: Uh.
- 17:03Speaker 7: You know, Rocky Mountain Ranger District had a back country
- 17:06Speaker 7: crew of eleven and now they're down to three. Spotted
- 17:10Speaker 7: Bear is similar. They had a back country crew of
- 17:12Speaker 7: twenty something and now they're down to four or five people.
- 17:17Speaker 7: So that's going to create significant barriers for the public
- 17:22Speaker 7: and for us to be able to achieve the level
- 17:25Speaker 7: of work that we hope to do.
- 17:28Speaker 6: You know, as an example, we work with the Forest Service.
- 17:32Speaker 7: We have our seasonal workforce that we ramp up to
- 17:36Speaker 7: is about twenty six folks. That's crew leaders, that's interns,
- 17:39Speaker 7: that's packer apprentices.
- 17:43Speaker 6: Usually we hire.
- 17:44Speaker 7: To two wilderness river rangers to go out with the
- 17:49Speaker 7: with the river ranger out of Spotted Bear, and that
- 17:52Speaker 7: that position no longer is there, and so we can't
- 17:56Speaker 7: have those two.
- 17:58Speaker 6: Interns go out on their own without it the supervisions.
- 18:01Speaker 7: So we're we're readjusting, we're getting creative. We're trying to
- 18:05Speaker 7: think of ways that we can still be effective and
- 18:07Speaker 7: help out and be of service to to what's left
- 18:12Speaker 7: out there.
- 18:13Speaker 2: Gotcha. Do you have sort of concrete plans looking forward
- 18:18Speaker 2: to the summer or are there still a lot of
- 18:20Speaker 2: uncertainties at the moment.
- 18:22Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean there's never any concrete plans right for
- 18:28Speaker 7: Plan A, Plan B, Plan Plan D. You know, we're
- 18:32Speaker 7: always adapting for weather and whatever, injuries.
- 18:36Speaker 6: Illness, anything.
- 18:38Speaker 7: This is definitely a big hitch in our in our
- 18:41Speaker 7: program because of i mean shortages aside, workforce cuts aside.
- 18:48Speaker 7: Our program budget was cut fifty percent because of.
- 18:55Speaker 6: A lot of fun thing that we get is frozen currently.
- 19:01Speaker 7: So the funding from you know, the Great American Outdoors
- 19:05Speaker 7: Act that helps fund our interns and our trail crews
- 19:09Speaker 7: and that kind of stuff. Some of the grants that
- 19:11Speaker 7: actually fund paying for the food for our volunteers, those
- 19:14Speaker 7: are all currently frozen.
- 19:15Speaker 5: And heya, Rebecca, that's money that was already approved to
- 19:21Speaker 5: go to you guys, correct, correct.
- 19:23Speaker 6: That's money that's approved to us.
- 19:25Speaker 7: That's like, for instance, the the America the Beautiful Grant
- 19:30Speaker 7: that we get that that funds our invasives crew. So
- 19:32Speaker 7: we have an invasive Species coordinator that works for us,
- 19:35Speaker 7: and he has four interns and a crew leader that
- 19:39Speaker 7: go around the complex and uh spray and map invasive
- 19:42Speaker 7: weeds all summer long. That's funded from the America the
- 19:47Speaker 7: Beautiful Grant, which we're in year three of a five
- 19:51Speaker 7: year grant of that, and that has been has been frozen.
- 19:54Speaker 7: So this is the time of year that we're hiring
- 19:58Speaker 7: all of our interns and placing all those folks, and
- 20:02Speaker 7: we kind of put a temporary pause on that because
- 20:05Speaker 7: we don't want to hire all these folks and then
- 20:07Speaker 7: be like, hey, guess what, we don't have the funding,
- 20:10Speaker 7: so you can't go.
- 20:11Speaker 6: Out there and do the work.
- 20:12Speaker 7: So we have decided to just keep moving on as
- 20:16Speaker 7: if we have that funding in place, and then we've
- 20:21Speaker 7: made a deadline that if we don't have you know,
- 20:23Speaker 7: confirmation and that funding at a certain time, we'll call
- 20:26Speaker 7: it off and read re.
- 20:29Speaker 6: Group our summer schedule.
- 20:31Speaker 7: I mean, there's like I said, there's seven of us
- 20:33Speaker 7: year round staff, and like five of us are are.
- 20:38Speaker 6: Ready to roll up our sleeves and get in the
- 20:40Speaker 6: back country.
- 20:41Speaker 7: You know, it's folks that still spend quite a bit
- 20:44Speaker 7: of time doing work in the back country. So we
- 20:46Speaker 7: can still do some volunteer trips, we can still do
- 20:48Speaker 7: some packing, we can do some other things. It'll just
- 20:51Speaker 7: be quite abbreviated from what we had hopes and planned.
- 20:57Speaker 2: So, folks, if folks are in just didn't supporting your work,
- 21:02Speaker 2: how do they either go about volunteering and getting getting
- 21:06Speaker 2: out there with you guys this summer, or if they
- 21:08Speaker 2: maybe live remote or can't do trail work themselves house,
- 21:13Speaker 2: can they support your mission?
- 21:16Speaker 7: Yeah, well, we do a lot of fundraisers right now.
- 21:21Speaker 7: We have We partner with the Telly Ride Mountain Film
- 21:23Speaker 7: Festival and do like a fundraiser and kind of circumnavigate
- 21:27Speaker 7: the Bob Marshall Wilderness Complex.
- 21:29Speaker 6: On Friday tomorrow, we have a show in Big FOURK.
- 21:33Speaker 7: We have a show in Showdow, Montana, in Helena and
- 21:38Speaker 7: Missoula and Whitefish, So anybody can go and buy tickets
- 21:42Speaker 7: to come see us at those events, and we have.
- 21:45Speaker 6: Raffles and fun stuff and a lot of great films
- 21:48Speaker 6: on that.
- 21:49Speaker 7: We also have like business partners, So if you're a
- 21:53Speaker 7: business owner and you want to be part of the
- 21:55Speaker 7: of the Bob Marshall Wilderness Complex and supporting that, you
- 21:58Speaker 7: can join our business become a business partner.
- 22:02Speaker 6: A big fundraiser for us actually is our license plates.
- 22:05Speaker 6: So we have like the Bob license plates.
- 22:08Speaker 7: It's when you go to the DMV. It's the one
- 22:10Speaker 7: with like a pack string on it. Get those on
- 22:13Speaker 7: your car. That's super supportive of us. We have monthly donations,
- 22:17Speaker 7: all kinds of different donations, you know, Like I said,
- 22:20Speaker 7: really only twenty percent of our funding comes directly from
- 22:23Speaker 7: a forest service. The rest is all donations and fundraisers
- 22:27Speaker 7: and merchandise sales.
- 22:28Speaker 6: And all that stuff, So good deal in that any
- 22:32Speaker 6: of that support, it was great.
- 22:33Speaker 2: And as far as the volunteer side of things, if
- 22:38Speaker 2: you know, if I get in the weight room or
- 22:40Speaker 2: get in shape and I'm ready to grab a hold
- 22:42Speaker 2: of crosscutsaw, what's my next step there?
- 22:46Speaker 7: Yeah, So traditionally we've launched our volunteer projects by March first.
- 22:53Speaker 7: That's on pause for right now, so we get confirmation
- 22:56Speaker 7: that we have the funding to go ahead with that
- 22:58Speaker 7: and hire our crew leaders and you know, buy volunteer
- 23:01Speaker 7: food and all that stuff, and pay for the pack
- 23:04Speaker 7: support that joins us out there. Our trips are all
- 23:08Speaker 7: posted online on our website, on our social.
- 23:11Speaker 6: Media will promote that once we launch those, some of
- 23:16Speaker 6: our trips fill up really fast, some of them don't.
- 23:19Speaker 7: We like to have a large variety of trips, so
- 23:21Speaker 7: we'll have, like I said, some like just one day
- 23:23Speaker 7: trips that are like lopping or pulling weeds or something,
- 23:28Speaker 7: and then we have like I think that our most
- 23:32Speaker 7: popular trip is like a five day trip. So you
- 23:34Speaker 7: hike in, you work for two days, you have a
- 23:36Speaker 7: day off, you work for two more days or one
- 23:39Speaker 7: more day, and then you hike out. And those you know,
- 23:43Speaker 7: there's there's different variations of the fitness levels you need
- 23:47Speaker 7: for that, and we.
- 23:49Speaker 6: Advertise that on our website.
- 23:51Speaker 7: Some of them, you know, you're hiking fourteen miles into
- 23:53Speaker 7: the back huntry over a mountain pass, and that's more strenuous,
- 23:56Speaker 7: and the work you're doing is like clearing a trail
- 23:59Speaker 7: that's you know, had a significant blowdown and you're on.
- 24:02Speaker 6: A cross put all day.
- 24:04Speaker 7: Some of the trips that are even longer, are you
- 24:06Speaker 7: hike six miles into a backcountry site and you work
- 24:09Speaker 7: on campsite restoration and you know, getting rid of fire
- 24:13Speaker 7: rings and barry and poop and all that kind of stuff.
- 24:16Speaker 6: That that's a little less strenuous. So we have.
- 24:21Speaker 2: Everyone what you're selling excellent.
- 24:24Speaker 5: Yep.
- 24:25Speaker 2: Well, Rebecca, we I can I think I can speak
- 24:27Speaker 2: for everyone in the building that we love the Bob
- 24:30Speaker 2: Marshall Wilderness as we love all of our public lands. Uh,
- 24:33Speaker 2: and so we appreciate the work that you do and
- 24:36Speaker 2: hopefully we can maybe get a couple of us out
- 24:38Speaker 2: on a crew with you this summer the next.
- 24:41Speaker 6: Yeah, that sounds great.
- 24:42Speaker 7: We have partner trips too, so if you want to
- 24:44Speaker 7: just grab your friends and come join us. The whole
- 24:47Speaker 7: Meat Eater crew can come out and you can't tell
- 24:50Speaker 7: it because we're in wilderness.
- 24:51Speaker 2: So I like that idea very much.
- 24:54Speaker 6: Yeah, you can take some pictures.
- 24:56Speaker 9: Yeah.
- 24:56Speaker 6: I appreciate you guys taking the time to hear from
- 24:58Speaker 6: us and.
- 25:00Speaker 7: Kind of shed some light onto the work that we're
- 25:02Speaker 7: doing and our and our passion for the public land
- 25:05Speaker 7: and the place.
- 25:06Speaker 6: And thanks for having us.
- 25:08Speaker 2: Yeah, happy to do it, and good luck. We appreciate you.
- 25:12Speaker 6: Thanks.
- 25:12Speaker 5: Thanks.
- 25:16Speaker 2: Now, here's a transition we didn't rework after a little
- 25:19Speaker 2: edit to our script.
- 25:20Speaker 3: Hold hold on here, I'll help you out. And I
- 25:22Speaker 3: guess that's why they called it fake news. There's an
- 25:26Speaker 3: Elton John throwing something about like the pe tape or
- 25:30Speaker 3: pizza Gate, and then you know, you got yourself a
- 25:32Speaker 3: drop right there.
- 25:33Speaker 5: Oh that's good, Phil.
- 25:36Speaker 3: That's how the magic happens right here in this chair.
- 25:39Speaker 3: And you guys got to witness it live.
- 25:41Speaker 2: That's great. That's that's a uh. That's an example of
- 25:44Speaker 2: someone adapting and and and you know, making it work
- 25:47Speaker 2: in the show. But I'm going to read a transition
- 25:51Speaker 2: that has not been reworked. Speaking of our new show,
- 25:54Speaker 2: Meat Eater, ros Corey, why don't you walk down the
- 25:57Speaker 2: hallway to the kitchen and see what's cooking. Oh great idea, Randall,
- 26:02Speaker 2: are making me hungry with all that chatter about Meat
- 26:05Speaker 2: Eater Roast walking down the hall.
- 26:08Speaker 3: And I just want to I don't want to under
- 26:11Speaker 3: under state how how this is like a first time experience.
- 26:14Speaker 3: People are getting to see the behind the scenes Meat
- 26:17Speaker 3: Eater headquarters right now.
- 26:18Speaker 4: Yeah, who's that Yanni juggling.
- 26:25Speaker 9: Johnny? What's cooking? Well, I'm just tenderizing these avocados.
- 26:31Speaker 1: In case they have to use these for a for
- 26:34Speaker 1: a part of their meal today.
- 26:36Speaker 9: Uh what do you? May just explain what Media Roast
- 26:39Speaker 9: is doing here.
- 26:42Speaker 1: It's Meat Eater's new competition cooking show where we have
- 26:46Speaker 1: two ordinary wild game cooks, which up to this point
- 26:50Speaker 1: have all been meet your employees, and not just the
- 26:53Speaker 1: ones that you expect to be good wild game cooks.
- 26:57Speaker 1: You've got folks like carin in here, Maggie. How well
- 27:00Speaker 1: maybe you would expect it.
- 27:01Speaker 2: Yeah, take that cool?
- 27:04Speaker 4: All right? Annie?
- 27:10Speaker 9: You know what I mean?
- 27:13Speaker 1: What do you mean you have the challenge or the
- 27:16Speaker 1: mystery that makes their competition. Well, we have two people,
- 27:19Speaker 1: which makes the competition. But every episode there's a protein
- 27:24Speaker 1: or a chunk of meat that is unknown to the
- 27:27Speaker 1: contestants until the moment that I reveal it, and uh
- 27:31Speaker 1: like right here in this uh cast iron, mini Dutch
- 27:34Speaker 1: of and whatever they call these, just what meat is
- 27:38Speaker 1: for a episode we're gonna film today, So I'm gonna
- 27:42Speaker 1: reveal it to the contestants and then they're gonna have
- 27:44Speaker 1: ninety minutes to cook me and the two.
- 27:47Speaker 9: Judges that were here, which one of them is gonna
- 27:50Speaker 9: be Maggie Huddler.
- 27:51Speaker 1: We also have the most famous butcher I know, and
- 27:54Speaker 1: the foreman that you're judging today, and they're gonna have
- 27:58Speaker 1: ninety minutes to cook us up something delicious.
- 28:00Speaker 9: That means the.
- 28:02Speaker 1: Best part about this show, this is episode number four
- 28:06Speaker 1: with filming today, is that we've come to see that.
- 28:12Speaker 9: Wild game cooking is not that hard.
- 28:14Speaker 1: Everybody that's that's participates as far as we've ped up
- 28:17Speaker 1: some amazing stuff in an elimited amount of time, not
- 28:20Speaker 1: knowing what they had to work with when they started,
- 28:23Speaker 1: So the energy level is high or digging producing it
- 28:29Speaker 1: with us, So I'm hoping that the viewers are going
- 28:31Speaker 1: to like it too. Any questions Corey or from the
- 28:36Speaker 1: next door I can just walk over there too, if
- 28:38Speaker 1: you guys want to talk to me.
- 28:40Speaker 2: Yeah, Johnest, I wonder if you're a little overconfident there
- 28:42Speaker 2: in your assessment that the show is demonstrating that wild
- 28:45Speaker 2: game cooking is not that hard. I will be joining
- 28:49Speaker 2: you there in about an hour, and I'll be taking
- 28:53Speaker 2: the helm at that stove, so I wouldn't really count
- 28:56Speaker 2: your chickens before they hatch, as the old proverb goes,
- 28:59Speaker 2: I think I might set a new standard for incompetence.
- 29:05Speaker 1: A difficult chunk of game me for you too. You're
- 29:09Speaker 1: not going to have. I'm not giving you like an
- 29:11Speaker 1: ELF ten you're going to work with, So put your
- 29:14Speaker 1: thinking cap on.
- 29:15Speaker 9: Randall late, Oh you hear that from Max? No, you're
- 29:21Speaker 9: in an hour, You're late.
- 29:23Speaker 2: Oh geez, well we better wrap this sucker up then.
- 29:27Speaker 2: Anything you like to add Chili, Yeah, you know, really
- 29:33Speaker 2: rooting for you, Randall and the other contention as well.
- 29:36Speaker 2: But h who should not.
- 29:38Speaker 5: Be named Chilly, just wants to make sure you keep
- 29:41Speaker 5: the kitchen clean while you're working.
- 29:42Speaker 7: Yeah, Chili's going a great job remodeling this kitchen.
- 29:48Speaker 9: Check out some beautiful.
- 29:49Speaker 2: Artwork that's our new art gallery for those of you watching, Well,
- 29:53Speaker 2: which way this way? Sam, there's the brains behind the
- 29:59Speaker 2: whole and the creative the creative engine behind it all.
- 30:04Speaker 2: Sam might just say hi to folks instead of hiding
- 30:07Speaker 2: behind the.
- 30:10Speaker 4: Lovely There's some real interesting stuff on that shelf behind
- 30:14Speaker 4: Sam too.
- 30:14Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, what are some interesting ingredients that these
- 30:19Speaker 3: folks have to work?
- 30:22Speaker 1: She's attracted to the craziest stuff that is available in
- 30:27Speaker 1: the outdoors, and so she really wanted to use the
- 30:31Speaker 1: python oil. I can't remember who said this to Steve,
- 30:34Speaker 1: but unfortunately or fortunately you look at it, it's rancid.
- 30:39Speaker 1: So if you see this in an upcoming episode, you
- 30:41Speaker 1: will know that that's the person that used it.
- 30:43Speaker 9: Lost really wanted to use it, but it did.
- 30:48Speaker 4: Not smell good.
- 30:51Speaker 9: Yeah, we got grizzly.
- 30:52Speaker 1: Bear fast, which we did use some grizzly bear grease
- 30:54Speaker 1: the other day, and I wish I knew the story
- 30:56Speaker 1: on how they legally obtained it. Maybe they got it
- 30:59Speaker 1: from Alaska, I guess. But it was actually very delicious.
- 31:02Speaker 1: Oh then the Maggie anchorin the other day used bison
- 31:08Speaker 1: garum was It basically tasted like an extra rich soy sauce,
- 31:15Speaker 1: like like mega umami.
- 31:17Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm really curious how that was made. I would
- 31:20Speaker 4: love to learn how to make garum It was delicious.
- 31:26Speaker 1: We also, if you've never seen this exotic pasta from
- 31:29Speaker 1: Italy called Penny Penny.
- 31:33Speaker 2: I thought the e was silent, just pean.
- 31:37Speaker 1: Maybe it's randall elbow macaroni, also from Italy.
- 31:45Speaker 2: Got any wonderbread any ketchup?
- 31:48Speaker 10: Oh yeah, yeah, buddy, we have we have like a
- 31:51Speaker 10: crush shell.
- 31:52Speaker 11: We have a crush shell for those that that can't
- 31:55Speaker 11: get it done with, you know, from scratch. You can
- 31:59Speaker 11: use catch up, wonderbread, that sort of stuff, and I'll
- 32:03Speaker 11: be happy.
- 32:03Speaker 1: To eat it, but it's probably gonna cost you a
- 32:05Speaker 1: little bit of in the creativity.
- 32:08Speaker 9: Uh point.
- 32:09Speaker 2: You don't know what I'm gonna do with it yet.
- 32:11Speaker 1: I don't, I don't, but I feel like that stuff's
- 32:14Speaker 1: a little bit of a crutch.
- 32:15Speaker 9: It's a little bit of an easy button.
- 32:17Speaker 2: Well, well, I'm gonna see what I get for my
- 32:20Speaker 2: uh mystery ingredient today and we'll just proceed from there.
- 32:23Speaker 2: How's that sound.
- 32:26Speaker 9: We'll see it these folks.
- 32:29Speaker 2: Okay, thank you, thank you, sir.
- 32:32Speaker 4: Now Randall has teased me with the prospect of a
- 32:36Speaker 4: meat smoothie.
- 32:37Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I've been told there's a blender and if
- 32:40Speaker 2: all else fails can't nail the texture on the uh
- 32:44Speaker 2: on the hot pan, it's they're going in there take
- 32:47Speaker 2: it through a straw.
- 32:48Speaker 4: I hope I'm not drinking my meal today.
- 32:51Speaker 2: You very well might be.
- 32:53Speaker 4: Phil.
- 32:53Speaker 2: What do we got for some listener feedback here?
- 32:55Speaker 3: Yeah, because this reminder now is a good time to
- 32:58Speaker 3: submit some questions for the crew to day Maggie, Brody
- 33:01Speaker 3: and Randall. Yeah, this one was just funny to me.
- 33:04Speaker 3: When you were looking at the tv raandl someone said,
- 33:05Speaker 3: why does Randal always look like he's trying to remember
- 33:07Speaker 3: his AOL password? Which that's just that's just a funny.
- 33:11Speaker 3: That's just a funny joke.
- 33:12Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's funny.
- 33:13Speaker 3: Ryan.
- 33:14Speaker 2: I am really bad with passwords, so this is I
- 33:19Speaker 2: usually I don't know what I look like when I'm
- 33:22Speaker 2: trying to think of I think.
- 33:23Speaker 5: You're just making sure you're saying what you're supposed to say.
- 33:26Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true, that's true. You know, just trying to
- 33:29Speaker 2: stick to the script.
- 33:30Speaker 5: Speaking before you think and get you in trouble.
- 33:32Speaker 2: We like to have a nice clean show here.
- 33:35Speaker 3: On that note, and I'm trusting you guys right now.
- 33:37Speaker 3: I'm putting a lot of faith in in in you
- 33:40Speaker 3: for not spoiling what's coming up next week. But Wang
- 33:45Speaker 3: Gonzalez asks, if Randall wins the trivia tournament, are we
- 33:48Speaker 3: going to see some suck at Randall stickers to replace
- 33:50Speaker 3: the sucket Brody stickers.
- 33:52Speaker 5: I we'll have to come up with something better and suck.
- 33:54Speaker 2: It from the man himself.
- 33:58Speaker 5: You heard it here that one's copyrighted to me.
- 34:05Speaker 3: This is something that I'm curious about. Maybe it'll be
- 34:07Speaker 3: a short answer. But Brendan asks. He says, hey, guys,
- 34:11Speaker 3: y'all have any issues with lower turkey numbers due to predation.
- 34:14Speaker 3: My turkey flocks that I've hunted for years got decimated
- 34:16Speaker 3: by coyotes over the winter. I don't know where you are, Brendan,
- 34:19Speaker 3: but if you're still in the chat, you want to
- 34:21Speaker 3: let us know.
- 34:22Speaker 5: Yeah, that's like very location dependent. I feel like I
- 34:29Speaker 5: would say out here, numbers are are more influenced by
- 34:33Speaker 5: the severity of winters and whether turkey flocks have access
- 34:40Speaker 5: to this Some people might not like hearing this, but
- 34:43Speaker 5: where turkey flocks out here have access to cattle pastures
- 34:49Speaker 5: in the winter, they're going to do a lot better.
- 34:52Speaker 5: They like getting down in that cattle pasture and pecking
- 34:55Speaker 5: through the cow poop and where they can do that,
- 34:58Speaker 5: they do pretty good. But we had a old winter
- 35:01Speaker 5: well along stratch of cold, so it's yet to be
- 35:05Speaker 5: seen what's going on with turkey numbers in Montana. I
- 35:10Speaker 5: can't speak to anywhere.
- 35:11Speaker 3: Brent Brendan says he's in New Jersey by the way.
- 35:13Speaker 5: M Yeah, I mean predation is certainly a problem, like
- 35:17Speaker 5: a net nest predation. I think you probably uh, raccoons
- 35:22Speaker 5: are doing as much damage as coyotes.
- 35:25Speaker 2: This this might be a question to uh Caitlin for
- 35:28Speaker 2: share with our next guest.
- 35:30Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, she knows a lot about Turkey's coyotes.
- 35:34Speaker 3: She's smiling in the waiting room. I hope that's a
- 35:36Speaker 3: good sign. Good good in the woods, asks Maggie. What's
- 35:39Speaker 3: the crat craziest article you've written for me here? And
- 35:41Speaker 3: I'll extend to like maybe maybe your favorite or something
- 35:44Speaker 3: you're you're the most proud of that people should check
- 35:45Speaker 3: out to.
- 35:47Speaker 4: I wrote one about seafood fraud a few years ago.
- 35:53Speaker 4: I think it was titled something like hog bunk of
- 35:56Speaker 4: the sea because people will actually use hog bunk and
- 36:03Speaker 4: slice it up as calamari and sell it as calamari.
- 36:08Speaker 4: And there's like other instances of you know, like Chile
- 36:13Speaker 4: and sea bass. It's I forget what it was actually called.
- 36:19Speaker 4: It's like, uh something toothfish, and it's just like this
- 36:24Speaker 4: renaming rebranding. Selling seafood is something that it maybe isn't
- 36:30Speaker 4: just to market it to the consumer, which is really
- 36:34Speaker 4: interesting because people still consume it and buy it.
- 36:36Speaker 2: And that name really took hold after it was served
- 36:39Speaker 2: for launch at Jurassic Park headquarters, just fictional island where
- 36:52Speaker 2: Jurassic Park was. Philly got anything else from the check?
- 36:55Speaker 3: Does Randall like skyline Chili?
- 36:57Speaker 4: Oh?
- 36:57Speaker 2: I love it so much. I love so much, Austin,
- 37:00Speaker 2: Do you have any send it to me? I just
- 37:03Speaker 2: made some. I just made some fake skyline a couple
- 37:07Speaker 2: of weeks ago.
- 37:08Speaker 5: Maybe you'll be making some in half an hour I could, Yeah, yeah,
- 37:12Speaker 5: in a blender.
- 37:13Speaker 3: We'll see.
- 37:13Speaker 4: Do you put beans in skyline Chili?
- 37:16Speaker 7: Uh?
- 37:16Speaker 2: No, you can add you can add beans.
- 37:19Speaker 4: Beans and noodles. Seems weird.
- 37:22Speaker 2: Yeah. So so, typically it's served in a number of ways.
- 37:25Speaker 2: You have a three way, which is chili. It's it's spaghetti,
- 37:28Speaker 2: chili and cheese. And then you can have a four
- 37:30Speaker 2: way where you either add chopped onions or beans chopped
- 37:34Speaker 2: five way where you add both, or you serve them
- 37:37Speaker 2: on a coney hot dog, little mini.
- 37:40Speaker 4: Hot dog, hot dog with noodles.
- 37:42Speaker 2: Oh, no, you could, but that's typically not the traditional way.
- 37:47Speaker 2: Bee Dawson. I could go on for hours about Skyline Chili.
- 37:50Speaker 2: I love it. Also a gold Star man, but Skyline
- 37:53Speaker 2: really is probably my number one.
- 37:55Speaker 3: A question from mogor Uh. He says he finished the
- 37:58Speaker 3: new audiobook this week, the one that you made with Steve.
- 38:02Speaker 3: He really enjoyed it. Congratulations. His question is how much
- 38:04Speaker 3: research was needed for the project. And I guess, like
- 38:07Speaker 3: you could say that in terms of months, or books
- 38:10Speaker 3: or hours.
- 38:14Speaker 2: I'll just say that that's my full time job. Trivia
- 38:19Speaker 2: and podcasts and radio live are just sort of the
- 38:23Speaker 2: icing on top, but none of that is in my
- 38:25Speaker 2: job description. It's a full time job. I don't really
- 38:29Speaker 2: know where to start with number of books, but yeah,
- 38:32Speaker 2: we probably worked on that for oh, I guess maybe
- 38:37Speaker 2: seven months for the first draft, and then rewrote a
- 38:42Speaker 2: bit and then recorded it probably nine months out from
- 38:46Speaker 2: when we started, So it's like a year long life
- 38:48Speaker 2: cycle basically between getting it started and then the launch
- 38:53Speaker 2: and promotion and everything.
- 38:54Speaker 5: You're already researching the next one, aren't.
- 38:56Speaker 2: You, in the spare time that I have. Yes, we've
- 39:00Speaker 2: got another one coming out on the Buffalo Hide Hunters,
- 39:02Speaker 2: which is kind of a subject near and dear to
- 39:06Speaker 2: Steve's heart. So that's that's been a fun one to
- 39:07Speaker 2: get started.
- 39:10Speaker 3: There was a question regarding your crossword puzzle scores, Rano
- 39:14Speaker 3: that we haven't gotten an update in a while, but
- 39:16Speaker 3: then Spencer, our very own Spencer new Heart, responded that
- 39:20Speaker 3: Randall scores are posted at the top of every crossword puzzle.
- 39:23Speaker 3: If you go look at any of them, you'll see
- 39:25Speaker 3: his score in the first sentence. Do you know what
- 39:27Speaker 3: that means?
- 39:29Speaker 2: Probably in the little lead in instructions thing. Yeah, So
- 39:33Speaker 2: when Spencer puts together a crossword every week, he and
- 39:37Speaker 2: Logan who plugs it into the website, give me that
- 39:41Speaker 2: link in advance. You take it first, and I take
- 39:44Speaker 2: it first, so then everybody can. And this week, let
- 39:48Speaker 2: me just point out here that this week I scored
- 39:50Speaker 2: a three ninety five with a record time of a
- 39:52Speaker 2: minute and thirty four seconds. Pretty proud of that one,
- 39:56Speaker 2: Thanks Spencer.
- 39:57Speaker 3: That's great.
- 39:59Speaker 2: Crosswords are an part of my job that aren't in
- 40:01Speaker 2: my job description.
- 40:02Speaker 4: Curious that is because you have a superhuman ability to
- 40:05Speaker 4: get them done in that amount of time.
- 40:08Speaker 2: I just don't have much else.
- 40:10Speaker 3: Let's do one more on the heels. Let's do one
- 40:12Speaker 3: more on the heels of the Meat Eater behind the
- 40:14Speaker 3: scenes HQ. Yeah, this is kind of a big question
- 40:18Speaker 3: for everyone, but Michael asks, what's your favorite part of
- 40:22Speaker 3: working at Meat Eater? That could be anything from crossword
- 40:26Speaker 3: puzzles to researching mountain men for months.
- 40:30Speaker 2: Who wants to start?
- 40:32Speaker 5: My favorite part is turning in a finished manuscript. The
- 40:37Speaker 5: rest of it is isn't necessarily that fun, but man,
- 40:40Speaker 5: when you're like, holy shit, we're done, like that's a
- 40:43Speaker 5: good feeling.
- 40:44Speaker 4: That's got to be satisfying.
- 40:46Speaker 2: Yep, Maggie, I would.
- 40:49Speaker 4: Say, just like the content that we get to work
- 40:52Speaker 4: with day in and day out is really great and fun,
- 40:56Speaker 4: and we like everyone that we work with is a
- 41:00Speaker 4: fantastic person Like, it's just a really great community here.
- 41:08Speaker 5: I didn't think about that.
- 41:09Speaker 2: Yeah, sorry, interrupted, I just couldn't help myself.
- 41:14Speaker 4: No, every and every time I come into the office,
- 41:17Speaker 4: I'm reminded of like all the good folks that work here.
- 41:20Speaker 4: So that's it's nice, you don't You don't always get that,
- 41:24Speaker 4: so I try not to take it for granted.
- 41:26Speaker 2: Yeah, I would probably echo some variation of that. I
- 41:32Speaker 2: enjoy coming into the office and just having fun all
- 41:36Speaker 2: day long.
- 41:37Speaker 5: Like today, all you're doing is having fun all day long.
- 41:40Speaker 2: Yeah, just make a couple of stupid jokes and act
- 41:43Speaker 2: like a buffoon. You know, A lot of jobs require
- 41:45Speaker 2: you to maintain some level of professionalism, and I like
- 41:51Speaker 2: that I can just be a weirdo.
- 41:54Speaker 3: I'll second that.
- 41:55Speaker 4: Yeah, let it, let it shine, just let it fly.
- 41:59Speaker 3: Cool. Well, let's keep sending those questions in. We'll do
- 42:03Speaker 3: one more round of those at the end of the seas.
- 42:04Speaker 2: Those are some good ones. Thank you. Joining us on
- 42:08Speaker 2: the line is Wild Turkey researcher and fur trapper Caitlin
- 42:12Speaker 2: lo Spinoso, or as some of you may know her
- 42:15Speaker 2: better on social media as old Trapper Kate. Caitlin. Welcome
- 42:19Speaker 2: to the show.
- 42:20Speaker 10: Hi, how are you.
- 42:22Speaker 2: We're doing great? How are you?
- 42:24Speaker 10: I'm good mentally? Oh no, but you know we'll get there.
- 42:30Speaker 2: Good, good, Well, Caitlin tell us a little bit. Uh,
- 42:35Speaker 2: you are a wildlife researcher and a fur trapper, and
- 42:39Speaker 2: anybody who's following along on social media knows that you've
- 42:43Speaker 2: been rather busy lately with your trapping season. Can you
- 42:47Speaker 2: just give us a quick overview of of your trapping season,
- 42:51Speaker 2: kind of what when that starts, when that ends, and
- 42:54Speaker 2: how hard you go?
- 42:56Speaker 8: Yes, So it's been a crazy season. Land trapping wrapped
- 43:01Speaker 8: up here. The season closed on Friday, so I've been
- 43:04Speaker 8: taken this week for some R and R, just kind
- 43:07Speaker 8: of relaxing before I start setting for Biaber.
- 43:10Speaker 10: We have another month of water trapping coming up here.
- 43:13Speaker 8: So I had a great land trapping season, targeting bobcats
- 43:17Speaker 8: and coyotes. I'm trapping all on public land, so I
- 43:21Speaker 8: can't run a huge line. I probably average about twelve
- 43:24Speaker 8: sets at any given time and just run those as
- 43:27Speaker 8: I can while I'm working. And I did fantastic on bobcats.
- 43:33Speaker 8: There was a record year. I doubled my goal. I
- 43:36Speaker 8: was hoping I would get four. I got a nice,
- 43:41Speaker 8: amazingly spotted, just beautiful cats. Yeah, that was actually my
- 43:46Speaker 8: my last hurrah. Last week on them, I I doubled
- 43:50Speaker 8: up and that spotted one was just a beautiful tom.
- 43:54Speaker 10: But yeah, I got nine.
- 43:55Speaker 8: Coyotes as well, and it was it was a grind
- 43:59Speaker 8: this season.
- 43:59Speaker 10: I really really enjoyed it, had a great time.
- 44:03Speaker 2: Very cool. How did you get into trapping, if you
- 44:05Speaker 2: don't mind us asking.
- 44:07Speaker 10: Yeah, very non traditionally.
- 44:10Speaker 8: I didn't have any history of trapping in my family.
- 44:13Speaker 8: I didn't know any trappers. I just it was totally
- 44:15Speaker 8: not on my radar. But I love the grind. I
- 44:21Speaker 8: taught myself how to hunt in public land. I taught
- 44:23Speaker 8: myself how to bass fish like a pro. I just
- 44:27Speaker 8: always loved having some kind of really complex problem to
- 44:30Speaker 8: solve in the outdoors. And I found myself in that
- 44:34Speaker 8: kind of dead space between deer season and Turkey season,
- 44:37Speaker 8: just really trying to find something I could go hard
- 44:40Speaker 8: on and really get into. And I had the hardest
- 44:43Speaker 8: time figuring out what that could be until I went
- 44:45Speaker 8: into undergrad and I had a wildlife management course where
- 44:49Speaker 8: trapping was discussed as a method for both research and harvest,
- 44:53Speaker 8: and it kind of got my wheels turning. And I
- 44:55Speaker 8: actually remembered the Wyoming beaver trapping episode that that was
- 45:00Speaker 8: in I think season six of Meat Eater where Steve
- 45:03Speaker 8: snared one and it just clicked like instantly.
- 45:06Speaker 10: I was like, that's the next step, that's it.
- 45:09Speaker 4: I can do that.
- 45:10Speaker 8: And I had tons of beaver in the creek bottom
- 45:13Speaker 8: that I was hunting on public, so I went in there.
- 45:16Speaker 8: It took me two days, got my first beaver, and
- 45:19Speaker 8: it just snowballed from there.
- 45:20Speaker 10: I was. I was hooked, and now now I'm I'm doing.
- 45:25Speaker 8: Everything that I possibly can coyote, bobcat, raccoon, possum, skunk, beaver,
- 45:32Speaker 8: hopefully otter I'll get back into.
- 45:35Speaker 10: There's not many here where I'm at here in Kansas now.
- 45:38Speaker 2: But these pillows here that are on the screen, those
- 45:42Speaker 2: you set those in for the auction house of otities,
- 45:46Speaker 2: if I recall.
- 45:47Speaker 8: So, not those ones in the picture there's there's a
- 45:50Speaker 8: photo of me holding to those are the ones that
- 45:52Speaker 8: I sent in. But yeah, I started so when I
- 45:55Speaker 8: started trapping and I started out with beaver, I was
- 45:59Speaker 8: getting all these you know, beautiful pelts and looking at
- 46:02Speaker 8: the fur market obviously dried fur. It's been talked about
- 46:05Speaker 8: a lot like the fur market was just in the tank.
- 46:08Speaker 8: Beaver's come up a little bit with the with the.
- 46:11Speaker 10: Western hat craze.
- 46:13Speaker 8: But at the time, I was trying to figure out,
- 46:15Speaker 8: how can I use this fur in in kind of
- 46:19Speaker 8: a unique way that I'm going to be able to
- 46:21Speaker 8: turn more of a profit than I would if I
- 46:24Speaker 8: just sold the dried pelts to a fur buyer. And
- 46:27Speaker 8: I started thinking about, like, how can I make it
- 46:29Speaker 8: a novelty? And the first thing I thought it was like, man,
- 46:33Speaker 8: these are these would make like a.
- 46:34Speaker 10: Really awesome throw pillow.
- 46:36Speaker 8: So I just took, you know, I took the beaver
- 46:38Speaker 8: that I got that first season, I tandemed myself and
- 46:42Speaker 8: and I just got to making them into into pillows
- 46:45Speaker 8: and selling them on just through Facebook, and they were
- 46:48Speaker 8: selling really well. So then I thought, you know what
- 46:51Speaker 8: about Etsy if I really got a store going and
- 46:54Speaker 8: sold you know, Wallhannger pelts and you know, different fur
- 46:58Speaker 8: items that I could make myself. And yeah, just kind
- 47:02Speaker 8: of went from there. And those the ones that I
- 47:03Speaker 8: donated when I made them. I really loved that pair
- 47:07Speaker 8: was this beautiful, dark kind of chocolate beaver pelts and
- 47:12Speaker 8: they matched perfectly, and and I was just sitting there
- 47:15Speaker 8: like fixing them up, and I was going to the
- 47:17Speaker 8: Meat Eater Live show that night actually when I finished them,
- 47:19Speaker 8: and I was.
- 47:20Speaker 10: Like, I wonder, I wonder if they would take.
- 47:23Speaker 8: This for the auction house because I was like, that
- 47:25Speaker 8: would be a really cool thing to see. You know
- 47:28Speaker 8: how much these could get for the for the cause?
- 47:31Speaker 8: And yeah, message Spencer and he was like, yeah, we'll
- 47:34Speaker 8: take them. Heck yeah, And I was. I was super
- 47:37Speaker 8: worried that they weren't gonna do much in the in
- 47:40Speaker 8: the auction but they they actually did really well, so
- 47:42Speaker 8: that was awesome.
- 47:43Speaker 2: Do you remember what they sold for you got that?
- 47:46Speaker 8: I think it was eight hundred and five if I remember,
- 47:49Speaker 8: Oh nice, yeah, And I mean they were a beautiful set,
- 47:53Speaker 8: and I like, I I was going to keep them
- 47:54Speaker 8: for myself. I was like, oh, like if this can
- 47:56Speaker 8: go to to raising some money for the cause, and
- 47:59Speaker 8: obviously that's just like a super cool thing.
- 48:01Speaker 2: To do, so very cool. We appreciate it very much.
- 48:04Speaker 4: What do you typically sell a beaver throw pillow for?
- 48:10Speaker 8: So I had been selling them, uh for depending on
- 48:13Speaker 8: the size, probably eighty two one hundred eighty depending because
- 48:18Speaker 8: I would make some like really little tiny ones that
- 48:20Speaker 8: are like like just a cute little thing to have,
- 48:24Speaker 8: and then I had some that were like eighteen twenty
- 48:27Speaker 8: inches that would be and depending on the backing that
- 48:31Speaker 8: I put on them, Like if I just did a
- 48:33Speaker 8: basic kind of corduroy backing, obviously that's much cheaper. Some
- 48:36Speaker 8: of them I did swayed, which is which is a lot. Yeah,
- 48:40Speaker 8: Spencer does confirmed eight hundred five.
- 48:44Speaker 10: Yeah I did.
- 48:44Speaker 8: I did swayed on those, so it was really those
- 48:48Speaker 8: were a really nice set. But yeah, I've done I've
- 48:51Speaker 8: done double sided for which is going to be the
- 48:53Speaker 8: most expensive. But yeah, the backing material adds adds a
- 48:57Speaker 8: that's a big variation.
- 48:59Speaker 10: The value and then the side.
- 49:00Speaker 4: Sure did you already know how to sew or did
- 49:04Speaker 4: you learn that as well?
- 49:05Speaker 2: As same question if that's another thing you just figured
- 49:08Speaker 2: out for something to do.
- 49:10Speaker 8: I learned to make the pillows, you know. I was like,
- 49:13Speaker 8: the idea for a pillow came into my head.
- 49:15Speaker 10: And I was like, I don't know how.
- 49:17Speaker 8: To stitch like a pillow cover, and so I, yeah,
- 49:20Speaker 8: I learned that on the fly, and uh, it's it's
- 49:24Speaker 8: so much fun. It's just you know, another another thing
- 49:26Speaker 8: to keep me engaged with it and do something more
- 49:31Speaker 8: with that with that fur. It really it it makes
- 49:34Speaker 8: me very happy to you know, make as much back
- 49:38Speaker 8: on that harvest, like make that harvest as meaningful as
- 49:41Speaker 8: possible and get as much use as it out of
- 49:44Speaker 8: it as I can.
- 49:45Speaker 10: So yeah, I really enjoy that part.
- 49:48Speaker 2: Very cool.
- 49:48Speaker 4: It's impressive.
- 49:50Speaker 2: So how are the critters in your neck the woods
- 49:53Speaker 2: doing this year? What are your takeaways from the season
- 49:55Speaker 2: as far as hair and hides and the health of
- 49:59Speaker 2: the health of the populations.
- 50:02Speaker 10: Yeah, so they've been They were really really healthy. Started
- 50:06Speaker 10: the year.
- 50:07Speaker 8: The coyotes were as about as fatty as I've seen
- 50:10Speaker 8: them and super primed up.
- 50:12Speaker 10: They stayed prime all the way through the end of
- 50:15Speaker 10: the season.
- 50:15Speaker 8: On Friday, I think, you know, obviously it was just
- 50:19Speaker 8: talked about we had a really hard winner. The last
- 50:23Speaker 8: couple winners have been kind of mild to where getting
- 50:25Speaker 8: into February they would already have some rubs and and
- 50:29Speaker 8: just losing.
- 50:30Speaker 10: Those guard hairs.
- 50:31Speaker 8: But this season they were they were primed like I
- 50:34Speaker 8: have not seen since I've been here. This is my
- 50:37Speaker 8: third season trapping here, so they're they were just fantastic.
- 50:42Speaker 10: I was. I was over the moon with it, especially like.
- 50:45Speaker 8: Friday, I picked up my last coyote of the season
- 50:49Speaker 8: and she I was expecting her to have rubs and stuff,
- 50:52Speaker 8: but she was still super prime. So this this is
- 50:55Speaker 8: not a I mean, Kansas, it's not you know, a
- 50:58Speaker 8: top tier first date usually. But the animals that I
- 51:02Speaker 8: pulled this year were very very well, doing very well,
- 51:07Speaker 8: very cool. Yeah, they had some I saw some crazy injuries,
- 51:11Speaker 8: which I sent in a picture of one that that
- 51:13Speaker 8: coyote that I pulled on Friday, she was super big, healthy.
- 51:17Speaker 8: You wouldn't have thought that anything was wrong with her.
- 51:19Speaker 8: And when I got to skinning her got down to
- 51:22Speaker 8: her face and I hit metal and I was like,
- 51:24Speaker 8: oh gosh, right around her eye, I hit metal, So
- 51:27Speaker 8: I like pull the skin back and there's a broadhead
- 51:30Speaker 8: sticking out of her eye socket. Wow.
- 51:32Speaker 10: She was just gnarly.
- 51:34Speaker 8: It was just when I got in there and started
- 51:37Speaker 8: digging around, it was just sitting under her eyeball Like.
- 51:40Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you.
- 51:43Speaker 8: Yeah, you could not tell that anything was wrong. She
- 51:46Speaker 8: had like a little lump under her eye that was
- 51:49Speaker 8: healed over, scabbed over, And when I got to skinning,
- 51:52Speaker 8: I hit metal and I could not figure out what
- 51:54Speaker 8: it was and had to clean it up before I
- 51:56Speaker 8: could see that it was a broadhead. But yeah, you
- 51:59Speaker 8: wouldn't have known her. Her one eye was like up
- 52:01Speaker 8: a little higher than the other because it was resting
- 52:03Speaker 8: on the broad head. But the eye wasn't punctured like
- 52:07Speaker 8: she was. She was doing great. So yeah, pretty crazy stuff.
- 52:11Speaker 8: They're they're tough and they they made it through very
- 52:15Speaker 8: well this year despite the harch weather.
- 52:17Speaker 4: So oh yeah, that's incredible.
- 52:21Speaker 2: Well, thank you for joining us. I know you've got
- 52:25Speaker 2: to rest up before you kick off your your spring
- 52:28Speaker 2: beaver trapping, so appreciate the update and we will check
- 52:32Speaker 2: in with you again here soon.
- 52:33Speaker 10: Yeah, sounds good. Thank you, Thank you for having me.
- 52:39Speaker 2: Our next segment is Meat Eater Movie Club. Thank you.
- 52:56Speaker 2: Phil Jean Jacques Anoud's nineteen eighty eight feature The Bear
- 53:02Speaker 2: offers a mesmerizing glimpse into the wilderness through the eyes
- 53:05Speaker 2: of its ersine protagonists. This largely dialogue free film follows
- 53:10Speaker 2: an orphaned cub who forms an unlikely dare I say,
- 53:14Speaker 2: unnatural bond with an adult male grizzly while fleeing human
- 53:17Speaker 2: hunters in the Canadian wilderness. The arc of the film,
- 53:20Speaker 2: though simple, carries surprising emotional weight. We witness terror, playfulness, curiosity,
- 53:25Speaker 2: and tenderness through the bear's experiences. In my own reading
- 53:29Speaker 2: of the film, the human hunters or portrayed not as
- 53:31Speaker 2: unredeemable killers, but as yet another species on the landscape,
- 53:35Speaker 2: prisoners of their own nature, which adds a layer of
- 53:38Speaker 2: moral complexity to the tale. But all else, the Bear
- 53:42Speaker 2: is a noteworthy technical achievement in the underappreciated genre of
- 53:45Speaker 2: animal movies, anod somehow elicits authentic performances from real bears,
- 53:51Speaker 2: only rivaled in my mind by the profound work of
- 53:54Speaker 2: Sam the orangutan in as the title character in the
- 53:57Speaker 2: nineteen ninety six comedy Dunstan checks In. The Bear manages
- 54:01Speaker 2: to create moments of genuine emotion without excessively anthropomorphizing its subjects,
- 54:06Speaker 2: although I think we might have some discussion on that later.
- 54:09Speaker 2: I did add the qualifier excessively. The film stunning cinematography
- 54:13Speaker 2: captures both the brutal reality and sublime grandeur of nature
- 54:17Speaker 2: as it is red in Tooth and Claw. Most remarkable
- 54:20Speaker 2: is the film's successful execution of what can only be
- 54:23Speaker 2: described as the peculiar artistic vision of its French director.
- 54:27Speaker 2: Ant had long been fascinated by nonverbal communication and specifically
- 54:32Speaker 2: sought to make an animal the lead character in a
- 54:34Speaker 2: psychological drama, a revolutionary concept that challenged conventional Hollywood wisdom.
- 54:40Speaker 2: He boldly inverts the traditional literary conflict type of man
- 54:43Speaker 2: versus beast, placing humans as the antagonists rather than the protagonist.
- 54:49Speaker 2: Whereas films like The Gray Parentheses Media to Radio Live
- 54:53Speaker 2: Episode two position large conivores as an existential threat to
- 54:57Speaker 2: human survival, and those like The Edge Fanentheses Media to
- 55:00Speaker 2: Radio Live Episode fifteen employ them to heighten familiar conflicts
- 55:04Speaker 2: rooted in the human experience, The Bear elevates animal consciousness
- 55:08Speaker 2: to the narrative center. This radical perspective shift forces viewers
- 55:12Speaker 2: to confront uncomfortable questions about our fundamental relationship with wildlife
- 55:16Speaker 2: and our place within nature's hierarchy. The Bear is a
- 55:20Speaker 2: unique cinematic experience, particularly after a few glasses of wine.
- 55:26Speaker 2: It's a testament to the power of filmmaking that transcends
- 55:29Speaker 2: language barriers to speak directly to our primal understanding of survival, family,
- 55:34Speaker 2: and the wilderness. Phil I appreciate your screen grab there. Now,
- 55:40Speaker 2: what do the critics say? Roger Ebert gave this film
- 55:42Speaker 2: three out of four stars and had this to say
- 55:45Speaker 2: about the dialogue of the hunters quote. Their words are
- 55:48Speaker 2: not meant to be language, but simply the sounds made
- 55:52Speaker 2: by the animal named man. And I have a couple
- 55:56Speaker 2: of quick facts for you here. It's based on a
- 55:58Speaker 2: nineteen sixteen called The Grizzly King. Brody characterized it as
- 56:04Speaker 2: a book written by a repentant French.
- 56:06Speaker 5: Guilman guil Frenchman.
- 56:09Speaker 2: It was filmed over nineteen weeks in the Dolomites in
- 56:12Speaker 2: Italy with three actors, twenty three bears, and lots of
- 56:16Speaker 2: other critters. They had to teach this bear how to
- 56:19Speaker 2: fish because he had been living in captivity in Utah
- 56:22Speaker 2: and didn't have experience with fishing, so they hired a
- 56:25Speaker 2: guy to come on set every day and release a
- 56:27Speaker 2: fish into the pond. But the bear was initially afraid
- 56:30Speaker 2: of the fish. And then this is my final note here.
- 56:33Speaker 2: This one might go on a little bit. One day
- 56:36Speaker 2: during production, Bart the bear injured a nod while the
- 56:39Speaker 2: two posed for photographers. A Nod's wounds, which included claw
- 56:42Speaker 2: marks on his back, had to be drained with a
- 56:45Speaker 2: shunt for two months. Then I happened to find this
- 56:49Speaker 2: quote from an interview. I believe it's translated from the
- 56:51Speaker 2: original French. So I'll do my best. I was a
- 56:55Speaker 2: very good friend of Zibert. One days, the photographer had
- 56:59Speaker 2: to make the use you a picture of the director
- 57:01Speaker 2: and z star this film. I had to show that
- 57:04Speaker 2: my star was huge, so I stood on a little mound.
- 57:07Speaker 2: Of course, all that protected me was a flimsy fence.
- 57:11Speaker 2: So I went into his part his domain. I was standing,
- 57:14Speaker 2: but he was so high I could not see his head.
- 57:17Speaker 2: To make it even more apparent, I decided to squat.
- 57:20Speaker 2: I always carry my viewfinder, you know, I took it
- 57:23Speaker 2: like this. He had never seen my viewfinder. I immediately
- 57:26Speaker 2: understood that I did something wrong. Ooh la la. He
- 57:30Speaker 2: didn't add that I did. He leaned down with his
- 57:33Speaker 2: mouth open. That means you're not my friend. I knew
- 57:36Speaker 2: what to do. I decided to go limp bin.
- 57:40Speaker 5: A great German accent.
- 57:42Speaker 2: I really tried not to make this German brand.
- 57:44Speaker 3: It's really good. You're you're kind of towing the line.
- 57:46Speaker 3: I'd say it's more French than German, though I'm giving
- 57:48Speaker 3: you credit.
- 57:48Speaker 2: He stroked me on the shoulder and I went six
- 57:51Speaker 2: seven meters down. I heard his mouth go ek ek
- 57:55Speaker 2: ek eck. His trainer says okay, good boy, good boy.
- 57:59Speaker 2: Clearly he too wanted to kill the director. The stench
- 58:03Speaker 2: was incredible. I felt he missed an opportunity and crab.
- 58:10Speaker 2: I felt that this was my mistake. Very Fortunately, I
- 58:13Speaker 2: had read the book called Bear Attacks, and they explains
- 58:16Speaker 2: that the only survivors.
- 58:17Speaker 3: Of a bear attack now it's very German, were.
- 58:21Speaker 2: Those who were playing dead. Apparently that was the only
- 58:24Speaker 2: time I was a good actor that's German, when I
- 58:28Speaker 2: was playing dead, so I trusted that I was dead.
- 58:32Speaker 2: The last two months of shooting. I had to go
- 58:34Speaker 2: to the hospital every morning and evening after the shoot,
- 58:37Speaker 2: as I was seriously wounded. Otherwise I should be in
- 58:40Speaker 2: a wheelchair today. The very touching thing is that for
- 58:43Speaker 2: the z rest of the shoot, Bear never met my
- 58:46Speaker 2: eyes again. Each time I was moving on Z set,
- 58:49Speaker 2: he looked away like a dog feeling guilty.
- 58:53Speaker 4: Well done, Randall.
- 58:55Speaker 2: So I just thought that was too good not to share.
- 58:57Speaker 2: And we couldn't play the video because it's in French, so.
- 59:01Speaker 5: Well you could have translated in that voice.
- 59:03Speaker 2: What do you guys think of the movie?
- 59:06Speaker 5: Here? Big Picture to have a hard time calling it
- 59:10Speaker 5: a movie. I think it's propaganda at best.
- 59:15Speaker 4: Answer, finest sleep.
- 59:18Speaker 5: It's like it's like nature good Man, bad, Hunting worse
- 59:25Speaker 5: and uh. Like we were talking about Roger Ebert's Uh.
- 59:29Speaker 5: Roger Ebert's review, that man, who was a very respected
- 59:34Speaker 5: movie critic when he was still alive, said like part
- 59:39Speaker 5: of his review is like it gives you a glimpse
- 59:42Speaker 5: into how bears live, which tells you, like how much
- 59:45Speaker 5: that guy knows about like how bears live. Like, I
- 59:50Speaker 5: would add more respect for this movie if it was
- 59:53Speaker 5: a Disney channel or a Disney movie where the bears
- 59:56Speaker 5: talked and they had the funny raccoon sidekick that followed
- 59:59Speaker 5: him around, Like it would have been better if it
- 1:00:02Speaker 5: was done that.
- 1:00:03Speaker 4: Way, right, I would have more respect for this movie
- 1:00:07Speaker 4: if they didn't use a monkey and a child the
- 1:00:14Speaker 4: noises that the cub makes, because if you haven't watched
- 1:00:19Speaker 4: the bear the entire time, the cub is just.
- 1:00:23Speaker 2: Like making these So that.
- 1:00:28Speaker 4: I looked it up, it was either a monkey or
- 1:00:30Speaker 4: a child making those noises.
- 1:00:32Speaker 2: In my notes here, right between the note that says, oh,
- 1:00:35Speaker 2: this is too sad and the note that says steep
- 1:00:37Speaker 2: ass country, I have a note that says this bear
- 1:00:40Speaker 2: is giving off strong monkey vibes.
- 1:00:42Speaker 4: So monkey or child, so they.
- 1:00:44Speaker 2: Couldn't just set the noises were bad.
- 1:00:46Speaker 4: The noises were bad. I think it like the cinematography
- 1:00:50Speaker 4: in the movie is beautiful.
- 1:00:51Speaker 3: And it's it's really striking.
- 1:00:54Speaker 4: Yeah, like this movie looks looks incredible, like the Dolomites.
- 1:00:58Speaker 4: It's it's really cool. And I think if they just
- 1:01:00Speaker 4: had like music, like a good score, I think it
- 1:01:05Speaker 4: would be a lot more powerful than these horrid whimpering.
- 1:01:10Speaker 3: It's something else. The bear either that. The fully work
- 1:01:14Speaker 3: overall is kind of rough. There's the very beginning when
- 1:01:17Speaker 3: the mom is cleaning off her cub with her tongue
- 1:01:19Speaker 3: and it sounds like a human being slurping jelly.
- 1:01:21Speaker 2: Yeah. Now, Phil, For for those of us who aren't
- 1:01:24Speaker 2: in showbiz, folly is a.
- 1:01:26Speaker 3: Oh yes, fully. A fully artist is someone who records
- 1:01:29Speaker 3: sounds after the movie is shot, basically fake sounds. Not
- 1:01:33Speaker 3: I mean the sounds aren't fake, but.
- 1:01:34Speaker 5: Something you have a lot of experience with.
- 1:01:36Speaker 9: I do.
- 1:01:36Speaker 3: Yeah, I not just at meat Eater, but for for
- 1:01:39Speaker 3: TV shows I worked. I worked on Mountain Men on
- 1:01:42Speaker 3: the History Channel and all those footsteps you hear through
- 1:01:44Speaker 3: the snow are my footsteps walking through snow. That's fully
- 1:01:49Speaker 3: something after the fact, and then plug it in in
- 1:01:51Speaker 3: the I.
- 1:01:51Speaker 2: Think the moments like that are my favorite part of it.
- 1:01:54Speaker 5: I think this movie should have ended with the folly
- 1:01:57Speaker 5: of that male grizzly crunching that cub skull. That's like,
- 1:02:01Speaker 5: that's how it would have ended in real life.
- 1:02:04Speaker 4: Yet not the cub licking the bullet wound.
- 1:02:07Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, that was.
- 1:02:08Speaker 2: My least favorite part of it. Was just the dynamic
- 1:02:11Speaker 2: between the cub and the bore. But otherwise there were
- 1:02:14Speaker 2: a lot of times where if I wasn't paying attention
- 1:02:17Speaker 2: to what was coming out of the speakers, I was
- 1:02:19Speaker 2: just like, man, I'm looking at some bears doing bear
- 1:02:22Speaker 2: stuff in beautiful country.
- 1:02:24Speaker 4: But the bear acting was really impressive, and apparently Bart
- 1:02:29Speaker 4: the bear almost got an oscar for not killing the
- 1:02:33Speaker 4: cub like that specifically.
- 1:02:36Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I there's also a there's a whole
- 1:02:39Speaker 2: book about how they made this, and there's also a
- 1:02:41Speaker 2: fifty minute documentary on YouTube of behind the scenes footage
- 1:02:45Speaker 2: and it's ship I skimmed through it, and you get
- 1:02:49Speaker 2: to see the trainers trying to stimulate the bears into
- 1:02:53Speaker 2: making different faces and then sort of leading them around,
- 1:02:57Speaker 2: through their through their steps on the scene, you get
- 1:02:59Speaker 2: to see the lion.
- 1:03:01Speaker 4: Uh.
- 1:03:02Speaker 5: I think Bart the bear was better in Legends of
- 1:03:04Speaker 5: the Fall when he rips up. Brad Pitt agreed.
- 1:03:07Speaker 2: Totally, totally. But I think one of the things that
- 1:03:11Speaker 2: bothered me the most. I mean, my notes are just chaos.
- 1:03:14Speaker 10: Same.
- 1:03:16Speaker 5: Were you just watching a movie with a coldie in
- 1:03:18Speaker 5: your hand writing stuff down? Yeah?
- 1:03:21Speaker 2: Yeah, and uh, it was not a movie that I
- 1:03:24Speaker 2: felt I had to pay particularly close attention to. But
- 1:03:27Speaker 2: when he's cleaning the gun and there's not it's like
- 1:03:32Speaker 2: this beautiful gun and he's got the action open and
- 1:03:35Speaker 2: there's not like a drop of grease.
- 1:03:36Speaker 9: On it anywhere.
- 1:03:37Speaker 2: There's no grime or grid anywhere. That was the thing
- 1:03:39Speaker 2: that just jumped out to me the most.
- 1:03:41Speaker 5: You appreciated that, or you felt it was it.
- 1:03:44Speaker 2: Was unrealistic for that guy, the way that guy looked.
- 1:03:48Speaker 2: I don't think his gun was as clean as it was.
- 1:03:50Speaker 4: I don't think you would have had that pretty of
- 1:03:52Speaker 4: a gun either. I think this was like French director
- 1:03:55Speaker 4: wanting to have this like, yeah, he's a bear hunter,
- 1:03:58Speaker 4: he has a bear gun. As this pile of dead
- 1:04:01Speaker 4: bears that the cub lays on, you know, like, but
- 1:04:05Speaker 4: I did think it was a really cool gun. Yeah,
- 1:04:07Speaker 4: And I looked it up and apparently it's Tom. Is
- 1:04:12Speaker 4: this man's name Tom? I'm assuming you didn't pick that
- 1:04:15Speaker 4: up in.
- 1:04:15Speaker 2: The no French reading the Wikipedia.
- 1:04:19Speaker 4: Same, So this is Tom and that's a Winchester eighteen
- 1:04:24Speaker 4: sixty six Yellow Boy rifle, which is a very cool
- 1:04:28Speaker 4: name for a very cool gun. I believe it was
- 1:04:31Speaker 4: forty four rim fire.
- 1:04:33Speaker 5: Not one you'd want to be shooting a grizzly with.
- 1:04:35Speaker 2: Well, clearly when you know the one. The other note
- 1:04:39Speaker 2: I have.
- 1:04:40Speaker 4: When he cuts the tips of the bullets.
- 1:04:42Speaker 2: When he shoots, No, when he shoots the bear and
- 1:04:46Speaker 2: he goes, the guy goes, oh, you spooked him, And
- 1:04:50Speaker 2: I was just saying that you usually don't. If someone
- 1:04:52Speaker 2: shoots something in the front half and there's a big,
- 1:04:54Speaker 2: gaping wound, you usually don't call it spooked. Right You
- 1:04:57Speaker 2: hit it, Yeah, you hit it, and probably greenviously wounded it.
- 1:05:01Speaker 2: But spooked was the the word choice of the the
- 1:05:04Speaker 2: screenwriter there.
- 1:05:05Speaker 4: So, and then the bear goes on to kill a mule, yeah,
- 1:05:09Speaker 4: like seriously, and you're a horse and then leave.
- 1:05:12Speaker 2: I wrote here.
- 1:05:13Speaker 3: Also like how the guy said my gun jam after.
- 1:05:17Speaker 3: I don't know how that affected it.
- 1:05:18Speaker 2: I wrote, uh, I wrote horse wounds are wild because
- 1:05:24Speaker 2: they did have a lot of animal blood in this film.
- 1:05:27Speaker 4: On the dog guts.
- 1:05:29Speaker 5: Yeah, what about the sex scene?
- 1:05:31Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, there was there speaking of animal noises.
- 1:05:35Speaker 4: There did not need to be that level of grunting.
- 1:05:38Speaker 4: It was unnecessary.
- 1:05:39Speaker 5: It's like a regular old movie with a sex scene.
- 1:05:42Speaker 4: Yeah, and the kid just watching with a.
- 1:05:44Speaker 5: Kid watching, Yeah, that that.
- 1:05:47Speaker 2: You can't do that if humans are your protagonists.
- 1:05:49Speaker 5: No, you can't. You can't.
- 1:05:52Speaker 2: So would you recommend this film?
- 1:05:57Speaker 5: It's so hard for me. Like when Mike boys were younger,
- 1:06:01Speaker 5: they would have watched it and probably enjoyed it, but
- 1:06:04Speaker 5: I wouldn't have been able to watch it with them
- 1:06:07Speaker 5: because I'd just been like, that's not right, that's not yeah,
- 1:06:10Speaker 5: that's not right. That would never So, I mean, it's
- 1:06:14Speaker 5: a it like has its moments, I guess, but no.
- 1:06:17Speaker 4: Look when I was like ten years old, when I
- 1:06:20Speaker 4: was a child, I watched Old Yeller on repeat. That
- 1:06:24Speaker 4: was like my go to movie.
- 1:06:25Speaker 5: That's some real shit there.
- 1:06:27Speaker 4: That is some real shit. But I also enjoyed, Like
- 1:06:30Speaker 4: do you guys ever see Wild America.
- 1:06:33Speaker 5: Yeah, Marky Stove, Yeah was that his name?
- 1:06:36Speaker 4: I think, Yeah, with really really awful animatronic bears. But
- 1:06:41Speaker 4: like I loved that as a kid.
- 1:06:43Speaker 5: Isn't that the guy had got in trouble for like
- 1:06:45Speaker 5: for Raisin Bears.
- 1:06:47Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, for like staging Wildlife.
- 1:06:50Speaker 2: Yeah, if this movie is ninety seven minutes long, there's
- 1:06:53Speaker 2: probably fifty minutes of it that I could clip out
- 1:06:57Speaker 2: and just play on repeat with a different sound. And
- 1:07:00Speaker 2: I just glance over at the monitor every now and
- 1:07:02Speaker 2: then when I'm watching an NBA game and they go
- 1:07:04Speaker 2: to a TV timeout and I could just watch the
- 1:07:06Speaker 2: bears kind of moving across the landscape.
- 1:07:08Speaker 4: I would have been this would have been my jam.
- 1:07:13Speaker 3: Yeah, Randall, you said that you watched a little behind
- 1:07:16Speaker 3: the scenes documentary and saw some kind of wild stuff. Yes,
- 1:07:25Speaker 3: like what, I'm sorry, Well, I just suggest you, like
- 1:07:28Speaker 3: like there's some scenes where they use puppets or how
- 1:07:30Speaker 3: they were kind of like they had the bears chained up,
- 1:07:34Speaker 3: so they did use.
- 1:07:35Speaker 2: Like puppet or animatronic bears for some of the fighting scenes,
- 1:07:40Speaker 2: but otherwise it's just real bears.
- 1:07:42Speaker 4: And yeah, they were in the dream scenes.
- 1:07:45Speaker 2: In the dream scenes, Yeah, when he eats, the Mario mushrooms,
- 1:07:48Speaker 2: the Super Mario mushrooms and just goes wild. That reminded
- 1:07:52Speaker 2: me of the time that I went to Chuck E Chee.
- 1:07:54Speaker 2: When I went to Chuck E Cheese and I was
- 1:07:55Speaker 2: much too old to go to Chuck E Cheese and
- 1:07:58Speaker 2: the animatronic animals kind of pop out of the wall
- 1:08:00Speaker 2: and there's purple lights flashing around.
- 1:08:03Speaker 5: Age uncomfortable, horrible.
- 1:08:04Speaker 2: Flashbacks to that, But yeah, they they I mean to
- 1:08:09Speaker 2: move the animals around. They had chains on them, and
- 1:08:12Speaker 2: they would kind of like walk them on the rocks,
- 1:08:14Speaker 2: like across the river, and like you could see them
- 1:08:17Speaker 2: sort of setting the bear on that piece of wood
- 1:08:19Speaker 2: that he floats down on. It was pretty weird stuff,
- 1:08:22Speaker 2: pretty weird stuff, but also interesting. I think that brings
- 1:08:27Speaker 2: us the end of Meat Eater Movie Club. Another flawlessly
- 1:08:31Speaker 2: executed segment until I dropped Phil's little prompt there at
- 1:08:35Speaker 2: the end. But I think it turned out all right. Phil,
- 1:08:38Speaker 2: what's the chat saying?
- 1:08:40Speaker 3: Well, there was a funny little conversation that happened. Canadian
- 1:08:46Speaker 3: Hunter asked us, now that you no longer have an internate,
- 1:08:49Speaker 3: are you looking for a new Internnate? I'm assuming Canadian
- 1:08:52Speaker 3: hunter's name is Nate. And then our very own internate
- 1:08:55Speaker 3: Pipe piped in and said, intern isn't a title, it's
- 1:08:57Speaker 3: a way of life. Wants an internate, always an internate,
- 1:09:00Speaker 3: and then Spencer said, get back to work, Nate. I
- 1:09:02Speaker 3: just thought that was funny. Jack's fishing asks that his
- 1:09:06Speaker 3: kids or her kids love Meat Eater trivia? Is there
- 1:09:09Speaker 3: any more coming up soon? There will be more Meat
- 1:09:11Speaker 3: Eater Kids episodes this summer. We are currently in pre
- 1:09:15Speaker 3: production on those sighting, so stay tuned. And honestly, that
- 1:09:20Speaker 3: was pretty much the only question we got between the.
- 1:09:24Speaker 5: Last No reactions to the movie.
- 1:09:27Speaker 3: A lot of a lot of reactions. I don't know.
- 1:09:29Speaker 3: I don't know if a lot of people watched watch
- 1:09:32Speaker 3: the movie, so they didn't have a lot to say,
- 1:09:33Speaker 3: but they had a lot of a lot of comments,
- 1:09:38Speaker 3: mostly suggesting new movies like Leland suggested the legacy of
- 1:09:42Speaker 3: a White til Yeah, there's been a lot of hundreds
- 1:09:44Speaker 3: of beavers suggestions and that's a that's a newer movie,
- 1:09:48Speaker 3: so that might be kind of fun to do.
- 1:09:49Speaker 2: Yeah, that is one that's on the list. Corey has
- 1:09:52Speaker 2: been helping us curate our selections.
- 1:09:55Speaker 3: So jess A cow Guys said that Brody was the
- 1:09:59Speaker 3: only one old enough to see it by himself. It
- 1:10:02Speaker 3: isn't true. This movie came out in nineteen eighty eight.
- 1:10:04Speaker 3: I Randall was alive. I believe, I.
- 1:10:05Speaker 2: Bet I was two years old.
- 1:10:07Speaker 5: Yeah, and it's just like ben like it's people are
- 1:10:10Speaker 5: still wi like it's been around.
- 1:10:12Speaker 4: It's on Amazon, yeah right.
- 1:10:14Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very accessible for those of you with an
- 1:10:17Speaker 2: Internet connection.
- 1:10:18Speaker 5: Like people think they can hit me with those age
- 1:10:20Speaker 5: jokes and I'm telling you it doesn't. Just like it
- 1:10:23Speaker 5: just doesn't matter. Give up, Brody.
- 1:10:28Speaker 3: Also, Spencer pulled a guy and another good one and
- 1:10:30Speaker 3: wished you a very happy birthday today, Brody, Happy birthday, Brody?
- 1:10:35Speaker 5: What's that?
- 1:10:36Speaker 3: Spencer wished you a happy birthday in the chat? You
- 1:10:38Speaker 3: have a lot of happy birthday messages from people, so
- 1:10:40Speaker 3: I just thought i'd extend that to hear.
- 1:10:42Speaker 4: I didn't fall for it this time, Spencer.
- 1:10:45Speaker 5: I'm not following Spencer.
- 1:10:47Speaker 3: Spencer everything about once every once a month, Spencer wishes
- 1:10:51Speaker 3: happy birthday to someone in the chat, and it's when
- 1:10:53Speaker 3: it's not their birthday, and he gets a kick out
- 1:10:55Speaker 3: of it.
- 1:10:55Speaker 5: And I'm glad he.
- 1:10:57Speaker 3: Brody doesn't I'm glad.
- 1:11:01Speaker 2: Well gang. Before we go, Brody's got a special call
- 1:11:06Speaker 2: to action for you folks out there.
- 1:11:07Speaker 5: Yes, Surrey, for the twenty twenty six calendar, we are
- 1:11:13Speaker 5: doing another e fed Up Old calendar this year. It
- 1:11:16Speaker 5: is going to be efed up old trucks, which you
- 1:11:19Speaker 5: should interpret as e fed up old hunting rigs. So
- 1:11:23Speaker 5: we'll be taking submissions kids, if you're listening, close your ears.
- 1:11:29Speaker 5: The email to submit photos of your fucked up old
- 1:11:32Speaker 5: hunting truck is fucked Up Old Trucks at the meat
- 1:11:36Speaker 5: eater dot com. We are this year the calendar, we're
- 1:11:42Speaker 5: going to donate a portion of the sales to back
- 1:11:45Speaker 5: huntry hunters and anglers so they can keep on fighting
- 1:11:48Speaker 5: these attacks on public lands. So that that's like, that
- 1:11:52Speaker 5: reason alone is why you should buy the calendar. But
- 1:11:55Speaker 5: they'll be they'll end up being some really cool photos
- 1:11:57Speaker 5: of old trucks and and we'll sort through them. We'll
- 1:12:02Speaker 5: get a bunch of them, hopefully. Then we're gonna have
- 1:12:04Speaker 5: run a little contest for the fans where they can
- 1:12:09Speaker 5: hop on the website and choose, will narrow down the
- 1:12:12Speaker 5: selection to whatever fifty or one hundred that we like,
- 1:12:15Speaker 5: and then then our fans can hop on the web
- 1:12:18Speaker 5: page and vote, and those the ones that that get
- 1:12:23Speaker 5: the most votes will end up in the calendar.
- 1:12:25Speaker 3: And this is an example of a fucked up old truck,
- 1:12:27Speaker 3: and you can tell that it's actually in pretty good shape,
- 1:12:29Speaker 3: but it's got a lot of character.
- 1:12:31Speaker 5: Yes, it's yea an example to chop down suburban I
- 1:12:34Speaker 5: believe if you would like an insane conversation about the
- 1:12:37Speaker 5: parameters of this prompt, please listen to Monday's Oh Yeah. Next,
- 1:12:42Speaker 5: we're telling Steve and I how to make the calendar
- 1:12:44Speaker 5: that Steve and I are making that great.
- 1:12:46Speaker 2: I wasn't telling you make the calendar. Well, gang, it's
- 1:12:53Speaker 2: been fun and we're running a little over time, So
- 1:12:56Speaker 2: with that, I think we will bid you ado. Thanks
- 1:12:59Speaker 2: for tuning in, and we'll see you here next week
- 1:13:02Speaker 2: live for media to HQ. Signing off,