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Credlin | 21 January · Credlin

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Speaker 1: Peter Krandland live on Sky News Australia.
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Speaker 2: Good evening, Welcome to the show, Donald Trump. While he
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Speaker 2: is now the forty seventh US president, here at home
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Speaker 2: our Prime Minister scrambling is yet another anti Semitic attack
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Speaker 2: occurves overnight in Sydney. That and a whole lot more.
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Speaker 2: Giddy up America. He's what's coming up on Kredline. Wasting
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Speaker 2: no time. Donald Trump has taken back the Oval Office
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Speaker 2: and got to work immediately signing off a flurry of
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Speaker 2: executive orders. Now you want to know what's gone on
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Speaker 2: behind the scenes, We'll talk to one of the presidents
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Speaker 2: own former chief of staff and we'll focus in particularly
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Speaker 2: on the changes critical to Australia. And of course we
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Speaker 2: can't forget the pageantry of the day, nothing like an inauguration. Shortly,
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Speaker 2: we'll speak with an Aussie who's been amongst all the
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Speaker 2: parties and the big rallies on this big, big day
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Speaker 2: in US history. Lost plenty to get across. Domestically, as
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Speaker 2: I said, yet another blow to Chris Bowen's Green Agenda,
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Speaker 2: bidders abandoning a controversial offshore Winden farm on Mass and
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Speaker 2: Tony Evats. He'll join me for his reaction to the
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Speaker 2: latest horrific anti Semitic attack. The Prime Minister has now
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Speaker 2: been dragged kicking and screaming to convene an emergency National
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Speaker 2: Cabinet tonight. But it's all too little, too late.
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Speaker 3: There's no sense holding a meeting for the sake of
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Speaker 3: ticking a box. And if the Prime Minister thinks that
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Speaker 3: he's going to get the Australian public off his back
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Speaker 3: and then he'll have some reprieve from the media by
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Speaker 3: holding this meeting, he doesn't understand the gravity of the situation.
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Speaker 3: This is a national crisis.
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Speaker 2: But first you've got to hand it to the new president.
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Speaker 2: He makes himself absolutely clear, doesn't He Nothing merely mouthed
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Speaker 2: or equivocating, No ifs or buts. What he plans to
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Speaker 2: do in the job hits you between the eyes.
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Speaker 4: As of today, it will hands forth be the official
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Speaker 4: parlor of the United States Government that there are only
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Speaker 4: two genders, male and female. We will begin the process
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Speaker 4: of returning millions and millions of criminal aliens back to
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Speaker 4: the places from which they came. We will reinstate my
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Speaker 4: remain in Mexico policy.
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Speaker 5: Today. I will also declare a National Energy emergency. We
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Speaker 5: will drill, baby drill, and we have something that no
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Speaker 5: other manufacturing nation will ever have the largest amount of
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Speaker 5: oil and gas of any country on Earth, and we
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Speaker 5: are going to use it. We will be a rich
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Speaker 5: nation again, and it is that liquid gold under our
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Speaker 5: feet that will help to do it.
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Speaker 2: In his second in oggression address, Donald Trump came out
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Speaker 2: swinging there in the US government would only recognize, as
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Speaker 2: you heard, two genders, male or female. He declared a
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Speaker 2: border emergency and said the troops would be now deployed
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Speaker 2: immediately to the Mexico border. He withdrew America again from
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Speaker 2: the Paris Climate Accord. He scrapped his predecessor's Green New
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Speaker 2: Deal and declared that America would plant the stars and
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Speaker 2: stripes on Mars as part of a new golden Age. Today,
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Speaker 2: well over one hundred executive orders were signed in his
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Speaker 2: words to make America great again. Of course, the new
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Speaker 2: president will be judged on performance, not promises, as every
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Speaker 2: politician should be, and it will be Trump's record in
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Speaker 2: office rather than just bold declarations that will determine the
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Speaker 2: success or otherwise of his second presidency. But last time
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Speaker 2: he got a lot done despite being a political Novice,
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Speaker 2: and despite sabotage from the woke establishment, well, most of
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Speaker 2: us are better the second time round. To watch this space.
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Speaker 2: Back then, he cut taxes, red and green tape. He
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Speaker 2: did pull out of Paris, and he moved the US
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Speaker 2: embassy to Jerusalem because he boosted the military too, and
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Speaker 2: he intimidated America's enemies. And this time he knows much
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Speaker 2: better the type of people he needs around him, and
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Speaker 2: he's thought long and hard about how to drain the swamp,
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Speaker 2: the same swamp that ultimately got him last time. That's why,
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Speaker 2: for everyone on the center right of politics, and for
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Speaker 2: everyone around the world who knows we need a strong
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Speaker 2: America tonight, there are grounds for optimism, more optimism, to
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Speaker 2: be honest, than we've had for years. One thing's for sure.
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Speaker 2: His unambiguous message and his decisive win has given conservatives
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Speaker 2: everywhere more licensed to be bold. Sitting a few rows
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Speaker 2: back and doubtless grinding her teeth through Trump's speech, even
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Speaker 2: though she claimed it was an honor to be there,
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Speaker 2: was our own Foreign Minister, Penny Wong. Because there could
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Speaker 2: hardly be a greater contrast between Trump's robust common sense
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Speaker 2: and the green fantasy left land inhabited by the Albanese
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Speaker 2: government here at home, in which woe seems to be
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Speaker 2: the dominant personality. Today there was yet another anti Semitic attack,
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Speaker 2: this time the fire bombing of a childcare center next
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Speaker 2: to a synagogue in Sydney's eastern suburbs, and yet again
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Speaker 2: more impotent hand ringing from our Prime Minister.
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Speaker 6: This is a place for children and families and it
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Speaker 6: should never have been denigrated by this despicable and horrifying crime.
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Speaker 6: This is something that people in this great multicultural city
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Speaker 6: of Sydney should never wake up too. And this news
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Speaker 6: will lead to action. As Supremier has said, these are.
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Speaker 2: Just lines I mean. This bloke is a spectator to events.
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Speaker 2: He's not a leader. He's incapable of any strong act,
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Speaker 2: except on left wing causes like green energy or more
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Speaker 2: cave ins to union demands. After rejecting calls for months
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Speaker 2: to call an emergency National Cabinet to deal with the
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Speaker 2: growing scourge of jew hate in this country, today he
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Speaker 2: said he would consider it by the end of the day.
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Speaker 2: He's now holding, as we speak right now, an emergency
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Speaker 2: meeting of the National Cabinet on the very issue, of course,
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Speaker 2: that he's tried to downplate for months. Are you kidding
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Speaker 2: me yet again? Today was the New South Wales Premier,
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Speaker 2: Labour's Chris mins who really showed up the Prime Minister's
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Speaker 2: weakness as he was able to show show real action
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Speaker 2: unlike alban.
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Speaker 7: Easy breaks your heart that we have animals in our
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Speaker 7: city that are prepared to burn down a childcare center.
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Speaker 7: New South Wales Police have put major resources into catching,
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Speaker 7: arresting and then prosecuting people who are responsible for these
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Speaker 7: hate crimes in New South Wales. It is completely disgusting
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Speaker 7: and these bastards will be round up by New South
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Speaker 7: Wales Police.
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Speaker 2: Chrispians is on Labour's right. See the very marked difference
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Speaker 2: between the Labor right and Albanese's left faction. But despite
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Speaker 2: the words, the outrageous keep happening, as do the incessant
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Speaker 2: pro Hummas marchers demanding what amounts to be a new Holocaust,
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Speaker 2: the expulsion of Jews from the River to the sea.
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Speaker 2: Federal police well then made just one arrest despite more
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Speaker 2: than a year of anti Semitic outrages. No marches have
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Speaker 2: been stopped. The hate preachers and the mosques go on,
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Speaker 2: no encampments at our universities have been broken up, and
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Speaker 2: none of these un Australian protesters here on AVISA have
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Speaker 2: been deported. The Iranian ambassador will He's not been sent
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Speaker 2: packing despite repeated calls for the destruction of Israel. Why
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Speaker 2: is this because deep down, too many people and the
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Speaker 2: Albanese government except the Marxist perspective that Israel is the
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Speaker 2: embodiment of colonial settler privilege. Even though Jews have lived
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Speaker 2: and what used to be called Judea for over three millennia.
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Speaker 2: It was only last month here in Australia on the
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Speaker 2: twenty fifth of December, we have course celebrated the birth
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Speaker 2: of Jesus, a Jew born in Bethlehem inside what's now
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Speaker 2: the West Bank some two thousand and twenty five years ago.
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Speaker 2: By its attacks on Israel at the UN and its
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Speaker 2: constant demands for ceasefires that would only benefit Hamas, the
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Speaker 2: Albanezer government has licensed the view that Israel's legitimate self
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Speaker 2: defense is somehow committing genocide. I met the labor strategists
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Speaker 2: to ruining the day they started painting Peter Dutton as
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Speaker 2: a hard man, too tough and totally unsuitable for the lodge.
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Speaker 2: Because leadership is exactly what we need right now. You
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Speaker 2: don't get it, do you? From a weak man? America
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Speaker 2: has learned that lesson and our chance will come here
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Speaker 2: in just a matter of weeks. All right, As I said,
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Speaker 2: busy day here in overseas, we've got to hit Camra
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Speaker 2: now for the headlines. Joining me Sky News political reporter
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Speaker 2: cam Redden Good evening.
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Speaker 8: The Prime Minister has called an emergency national Cabinet meeting
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Speaker 8: in response to the latest anti Semitic attack in Sydney,
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Speaker 8: this time a childcare center in Maroubra, a short distance
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Speaker 8: from the local synagogue, set ablaze in the middle of
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Speaker 8: the night. The Prime Minister and Premier making an early
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Speaker 8: morning visit.
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Speaker 6: Here to see firsthand what is clearly a despicable crime.
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Speaker 8: Later vowing the perpetrators would be hunted down.
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Speaker 6: And it should never have been denigrated by this despicable
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Speaker 6: and horrifying crime.
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Speaker 7: And these bastards will be round up by New South
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Speaker 7: Wales police.
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Speaker 8: A Labour senator who previously accused Israel of apartheid will
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Speaker 8: no longer lead Australia's delegation to an event marking the
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Speaker 8: anniversary of the liberation of Auschwitz. The event held in Poland.
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Speaker 8: Next week will mark eighty years since the last prisoners
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Speaker 8: of the Nazi concentration camp were freed. A briefing note
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Speaker 8: from Home Affairs, shared with a member of the traveling
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Speaker 8: party and obtained by Sky News lists Senate President Sue
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Speaker 8: Lyones as head of the delegation, accompanied by the head
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Speaker 8: of Mission in Warsaw, a staff member to the Senate President,
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Speaker 8: Anti Semitism Envoy Gillian Siegel, and others. The apparent selection
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Speaker 8: of Senator Lines raised eyebrows, given these comments from twenty twenty.
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Speaker 9: Two Israeli policies against Palestinians fit the definition of the
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Speaker 9: international crime of apartheid.
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Speaker 10: Surely they can find someone more appropriate, someone who the
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Speaker 10: rest of the delegation would prefer to be with.
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Speaker 8: A final decision on attendance is made by the government,
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Speaker 8: but a week out from the event, a formal announcement
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Speaker 8: is yet to be made. Sky News understands Senator Lines
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Speaker 8: is no longer leading the trip, but that had not
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Speaker 8: been relayed to other members of the delegation on previous trips.
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Speaker 8: Then Liberal Senate President Scott Ryan represented Australia at the
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Speaker 8: seventy fifth anniversary five years ago, and Josh Friedenberg when
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Speaker 8: he was Assistant Treasurer five years before that. Cameron Redden's
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Speaker 8: Sky News Canberra with.
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Speaker 2: Lookok, just on that point there about the Auschwitz commemorations.
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Speaker 2: I am gobsmacked at the Prime Minister's office for even
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Speaker 2: allowing Sue Lines given those comments. We've just played you
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Speaker 2: to appear on the delegation list. There has been a
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Speaker 2: big change. She has been moved out. The Australian newspapers
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Speaker 2: now reporting that it'll be Penny Wong and Mark Drafus.
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Speaker 2: Of course he's coming across it, I would presume from
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Speaker 2: Israel to represent Australia at the event. I think it's extraordinary.
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Speaker 2: I don't think Wong, given her recent comments on Israel,
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Speaker 2: is much better than Lines, but we'll see where that goes.
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Speaker 2: I'm going to go to the US shortly for the
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Speaker 2: latest on the very big day there, but i want
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Speaker 2: to cover off some of the headlines in Australia. First.
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Speaker 2: The PM's delayed response to increased anti Semitic attacks in
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Speaker 2: this country will be a big issue at the federal election.
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Speaker 2: For more on this and other headlines, I'm joined now
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Speaker 2: by the Deputy Executive Director of the Institute of Public
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Speaker 2: a fairs Daniel Wild and The Daily Telly's journalist James
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Speaker 2: Willis Gens. Welcome.
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Speaker 5: Dan.
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Speaker 2: We'll start with this. I was going to say yet
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Speaker 2: another attack, but I don't want to be flippant. Every
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Speaker 2: single one of these anti Semitic attacks makes history in
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Speaker 2: Australia because we have been a country that has welcomed
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Speaker 2: Jews for over one hundred plus years in a way
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Speaker 2: that few countries do. And now we are in this
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Speaker 2: terrible position. And this is a course near a childcare
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Speaker 2: center or of a childcare center. Everyone's been pleading with
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Speaker 2: a PM to do more. He's refused to call national Cabinet.
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Speaker 2: Well today he's doing that as we go to air
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Speaker 2: house is damaging him because we want to see leadership.
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Speaker 2: When looking at America, we see leadership there but not
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Speaker 2: at home. Well, that's right.
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Speaker 11: I think it's been over four hundred days, Peter, since
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Speaker 11: the so called protests at Sydney Harbor on the steps
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Speaker 11: of the Opera House, where nothing was done. There was
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Speaker 11: precious little consequence for that, and of course that created
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Speaker 11: the permission structure within which this behavior has continued, and
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Speaker 11: it has escalated. And as you rightly identify, the prime
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Speaker 11: Minister has been drag kicking and screaming to at least
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Speaker 11: appear to be doing something meaningful. But the horse has
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Speaker 11: well and truly bolted on this one. We've lacked leadership
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Speaker 11: on this since day one, and like I said, it
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Speaker 11: has created the permission structure. I also think that, you know,
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Speaker 11: the leadership of our country needs to understand how significant
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Speaker 11: these events are. It raises serious questions about our migration
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Speaker 11: program and multiculturalism. It raises questions about many of those
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Speaker 11: in the community who are engaging this behavior who are
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Speaker 11: actually citizens of our country. Obviously, some of them are
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Speaker 11: not their temporary visa holders and they should be deported
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Speaker 11: if they're engaging in this behavior, but many are citizens
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Speaker 11: of our country. So this raises all kinds of questions
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Speaker 11: about what kind of country are we, what type of
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Speaker 11: people are we letting into our country? And at the moment,
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Speaker 11: it just doesn't appear that our leaders are willing to
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Speaker 11: have those debates and ask those tough questions.
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Speaker 2: James. In the middle of all of this, we've got
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Speaker 2: the Police Minister, the Police Commissioner, the Attorney General. They're
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Speaker 2: all on leave. There's been a number of these attacks
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Speaker 2: over the Christmas break, they're still not with us. I
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Speaker 2: understand their returning to their post. Yes, Chris mint was
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Speaker 2: strong today, all credit to him, but we really need
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Speaker 2: these people back on deck. Well, that's right, Peter.
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Speaker 12: And that was a real problem for the Men's government
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Speaker 12: today when it was discovered that with the latest attack
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Speaker 12: in Sydney overnight, the Police Minister was on leave, the
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Speaker 12: Attorney General was on leave, the Police Mission.
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Speaker 13: It seems to be on leave this week.
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Speaker 12: They've all returned and that was announced today that they
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Speaker 12: would be heading back to work. But I suppose when
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Speaker 12: a crisis like this unfolds, things have a way of
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Speaker 12: exposing themselves and you get caught short on a range
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Speaker 12: of fronts. I think Chris Means's leadership has been very
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Speaker 12: strong on this in terms of his words. I think
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Speaker 12: he regrets what happened after October seven, twenty twenty three,
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Speaker 12: allowing Palestinian protests to march to the Opera House in Sydney.
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Speaker 12: There are some issues in New South Wales in regards
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Speaker 12: to laws and racial vilification that need to be looked at,
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Speaker 12: but certainly there was strong leadership from Men's today. The
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Speaker 12: real issue on the federal stage is that the Prime
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Speaker 12: minister and look on this latest one, Peter with the
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Speaker 12: National Cabinet. The clues were given that the evidence was
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Speaker 12: in front of him. He was told that by a
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Speaker 12: special envoy more than a week ago that there should
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Speaker 12: be a national cabinet and there should be mandatory sentences.
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Speaker 12: The PM decided not to do that. We've had another attack,
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Speaker 12: and well done to Peter Dutton today, I might point
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Speaker 12: out because finally he said, we are seeing acts of terrorism.
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Speaker 13: On our streets every day.
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Speaker 12: If you look up the definition, the Commonwealth definition of
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Speaker 12: a terrorist attack for mine, it passes. We should be
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Speaker 12: talking more in that language. This is not just an act.
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Speaker 12: This is terrorism what we're talking about right now.
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Speaker 2: I couldn't agree with you more. The President. We've heard
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Speaker 2: it many times, but we heard it on this first
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Speaker 2: day in the job. Drill baby, drill. Well, it looks
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Speaker 2: like Peter Dutton might agree with that. He says, if elected,
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Speaker 2: he'll expedite some eighty seven coal, gas and iron ore
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Speaker 2: projects that have all been held up. He reckons that
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Speaker 2: the claim that the value of these delayed developments has
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Speaker 2: blown out to well over one hundred billion dollars and
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Speaker 2: it's stalled around fifty thousand jobs. The US is out
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Speaker 2: of Paris too, and a whole lot of other international agreements. Surely, Dan,
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Speaker 2: this is going to mean we in Australia have got
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Speaker 2: to rethink this renewable's badness and put gas and nuclear
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Speaker 2: on the table as the only genuine way forward.
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Speaker 13: Well, that's right.
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Speaker 11: I think net zero is dead. If it wasn't dead before,
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Speaker 11: it is dead now. Trump is once again out of
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Speaker 11: the Paris Climate Agreement, as you discussed at the top
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Speaker 11: of the show. That means all of the the major
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Speaker 11: emitting the nations are not bound to any agreement. While
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Speaker 11: we're still in the Paris Climate Agreement, we contribute one
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Speaker 11: percent to total global emissions. I don't understand there's no
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Speaker 11: benefit to us from Paris. There's no benefit to net zero.
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Speaker 11: As you say, we need to have gas in there,
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Speaker 11: we also need coal. I mean, if you want to
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Speaker 11: have twenty four to seven base low power, we've got
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Speaker 11: a perfectly fine energy system.
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Speaker 13: I mean, this is the frustrating thing.
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Speaker 11: We had some of the cheapest energy in the world,
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Speaker 11: most reliable energy in the world.
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Speaker 2: We were a manufacturing an.
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Speaker 11: Industrial powerhouse until we went down this road of wind
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Speaker 11: and solar panel let's just get some coal in the
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Speaker 11: furnaces and gas in the pipelines now. And this is
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Speaker 11: good news. If the coalition is going to expedite those projects.
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Speaker 11: I think at day one, Peter dut government should just say, look,
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Speaker 11: these are going ahead. If the project proponents have die
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Speaker 11: their eyes and crossed their ts, why can't they just
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Speaker 11: get these projects out there straight away? For coalition government
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Speaker 11: is elected because you know, we need these jobs. We
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Speaker 11: need this investment, we need this industry, we need the
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Speaker 11: export revenue. We're going backwards as an economy, and we
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Speaker 11: need our resources SECT to reft up, to take us
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Speaker 11: to generate the wealth and take us to the next level.
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Speaker 2: Amidster all of that to some other executive orders he
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Speaker 2: signed on the first day of the job was one
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Speaker 2: in relation to gender. It proclaimed that the US government
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Speaker 2: will now only recognize one of two genders, male or female,
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Speaker 2: and this is all part of a move to defend women,
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Speaker 2: he says, from gender ideology extremism, and to restore biological
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Speaker 2: truth to the federal government. The order also stops taxpayer
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Speaker 2: funds from MENUS for gender transition care and also ending
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Speaker 2: the radical and wasteful government DEI programs James, give us
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Speaker 2: your take here, is this likely to be a real
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Speaker 2: issue in the Australian election campaign.
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Speaker 12: Well, I think you can have sympathy for people that
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Speaker 12: may fall into the transc agree, but also understand that
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Speaker 12: this issue has been politicized. It has been weaponized by
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Speaker 12: the private sector, where you've had situations and explanations that
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Speaker 12: there are dozens of genders that we are meant to
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Speaker 12: identify and acknowledge we see in email signatures now and
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Speaker 12: everything else. I think there's a common sense element to this.
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Speaker 12: I think a lot of people are confused about where
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Speaker 12: things lie. But certainly what I hear out of America
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Speaker 12: is something that we should be looking at.
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Speaker 9: Here.
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Speaker 12: You've had senior public servants in Australia, Peter at the
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Speaker 12: federal and state level asks a very simple question what
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Speaker 12: is a woman and being unable in Senate estimates and
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Speaker 12: other inquiries to actually explain or give a proper, straightforward
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Speaker 12: answer to that. So people are confused. As I say,
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Speaker 12: it's been weaponized. I think the banks and some of
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Speaker 12: the big companies have played a big role in that
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Speaker 12: with some of their policies. But I think a common
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Speaker 12: sense approach here out of America. From what we're hearing,
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Speaker 12: sounds pretty straightforward and it should be something we're talking
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Speaker 12: about here. You can have that debate, I think really
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Speaker 12: without offending anyone too much.
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Speaker 2: I think you just reinstate the rights of women because
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Speaker 2: I feel like they've been stolen from us. We fought
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Speaker 2: for so bloody long and they have been stolen from us.
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Speaker 2: I think it will be an election issue. Jens, thank you,
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Speaker 2: all right. I want to go to Washington now for
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Speaker 2: what's been an historic day. Joining to me our man
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Speaker 2: on the ground, Sky's election analyst Tom Connell. Tom a
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Speaker 2: whole lot of hooplar and pageantry of course inauguration, but
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Speaker 2: also a bit of controversy President Biden pardoning now his
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Speaker 2: entire family in the last couple of minutes before he
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Speaker 2: left the Oval Office.
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Speaker 14: Yeah, this left a lot of people shocked in Washington.
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Speaker 14: I've got to say as well, plenty of Democrats at
20:41
Speaker 14: least privately expressing surprise this happened. We know pardons happened
20:45
Speaker 14: for presidents, and one of the more accept that, if
20:48
Speaker 14: you want to more normal ones, was the pardoning of
20:50
Speaker 14: the January sixth Committee. This is the committee of Democrats
20:54
Speaker 14: mainly who looked into the January sixth riot. So on
20:58
Speaker 14: that pardoning, a lot of people said, well, you'd understand
21:01
Speaker 14: if Donald Trump went after them, so Joe Biden protects them.
21:03
Speaker 13: But for his family, Hunter Biden raised an R five rows.
21:06
Speaker 14: This was Joe Biden's two brothers, sister, and their spousers.
21:10
Speaker 14: So this just leads straight away to questions that had
21:13
Speaker 14: been asked in a preliminary sense, but there wasn't much
21:15
Speaker 14: known about it about whether or not Hunter Biden's business
21:18
Speaker 14: dealings meant money went to Joe Biden, and then what
21:21
Speaker 14: his siblings and then their spouses.
21:23
Speaker 13: So it was a shock revelation.
21:26
Speaker 14: As you say, it was literally the last few minutes
21:29
Speaker 14: of Joe Biden's presidency and it reverberated through so as
21:33
Speaker 14: Donald Trump was becoming president, it happens at midday regardless,
21:36
Speaker 14: here in Washington, DC, we were finding this out.
21:40
Speaker 13: So yes, it was a shock.
21:41
Speaker 14: There's going to be more to this, I'm sure, and
21:44
Speaker 14: it won't stop questions being asked about it. So that
21:46
Speaker 14: was his final act as president, just before Donald Trump
21:50
Speaker 14: was sworn in as he was the forty fifth he's
21:52
Speaker 14: now also the forty seventh president of the United States.
21:57
Speaker 9: Yeah.
21:57
Speaker 2: Well, Donald Trump had pardons too, but they were flagged
21:59
Speaker 2: as absolutely four months that they would happen when he
22:02
Speaker 2: got there should he win. They obviously happened during the day.
22:06
Speaker 2: I think more is going to come out over time
22:08
Speaker 2: about how the White House was actually run with a
22:13
Speaker 2: president there who was basically non compassmntus so who were
22:17
Speaker 2: pulling the strings, who were actually the presidents behind the scenes.
22:21
Speaker 2: I think we'll be shocked with revelations in time. Let's
22:24
Speaker 2: go to the speeches from President Trump. A pretty formal one,
22:28
Speaker 2: the official inauguration address, as you'd expect, but vintage Trump
22:33
Speaker 2: later on the day at the supporter's rally and in
22:36
Speaker 2: the three Balls that he attended where he spoke directly
22:39
Speaker 2: to the crowd as well.
22:43
Speaker 14: Yeah, because the start of this day is always very formal.
22:46
Speaker 14: There's only one element that has to happen on this day, Peter,
22:49
Speaker 14: and that's someone being sworn in. So the speech was
22:51
Speaker 14: something started by George Washington with one hundred and thirty
22:54
Speaker 14: five words. Most presidents go a lot longer than that,
22:56
Speaker 14: of course, and Donald Trump took longer this time, but
22:59
Speaker 14: there was a bit more formal about that. It was
23:00
Speaker 14: inside Remember it's so cold in Washington. It was moved
23:03
Speaker 14: inside for the first time in forty years, and as
23:06
Speaker 14: a result, it just felt like Donald Trump was a
23:08
Speaker 14: bit stiffer.
23:08
Speaker 13: You're right. The next event was actually a presidential parade.
23:12
Speaker 14: Because that was moved inside with only twenty thousand people,
23:15
Speaker 14: it turned.
23:15
Speaker 13: Into a Donald Trump raucous rally.
23:18
Speaker 14: He was geeing people up, he had a desk, he
23:20
Speaker 14: was signing executive orders and telling the crowd what they
23:23
Speaker 14: were later on in the White House. He actually made
23:25
Speaker 14: a real point of being different to Joe Biden in
23:28
Speaker 14: terms of signing executive orders while talking to journalists for
23:32
Speaker 14: fifty minutes. He was casual about it, fielding questions, giving
23:35
Speaker 14: some hints about what he might do on Ukraine, and
23:38
Speaker 14: also TikTok as well.
23:39
Speaker 13: So it was just noteworthy and he.
23:42
Speaker 14: Said it he always does. Donald Trump, He said, Joe
23:44
Speaker 14: Biden wouldn't do this, would he. So he was in
23:46
Speaker 14: his element. He was still.
23:47
Speaker 13: Going at around midnight, So there are three different balls.
23:51
Speaker 13: He attended a long day of celebration.
23:54
Speaker 14: To him his supporters, it's about day three or four
23:57
Speaker 14: days of celebration really, although the big word start tomorrow.
24:00
Speaker 14: There was plenty done today and he wanted to start
24:03
Speaker 14: in that flurry. But tomorrow we'll see more decisions and
24:06
Speaker 14: some of the ramifications.
24:07
Speaker 13: We've already even seen court challenges to.
24:09
Speaker 14: What he's done in terms of those executive orders, Peter.
24:12
Speaker 14: So it always starts. You know, the one hundred days
24:15
Speaker 14: has become a bit of a cliche, but the first
24:17
Speaker 14: ten days of this administration are going to be a
24:19
Speaker 14: cracking paste.
24:20
Speaker 13: Donald Trump was somewhat surprising one last time. He was ready.
24:24
Speaker 13: This time, he'd been waiting for this and.
24:26
Speaker 2: Be absolutely thanks. Tom My mate said it would be
24:31
Speaker 2: a shock on all couple of days in the Trump administration.
24:35
Speaker 2: We'll see what happens tomorrow and the next day. I
24:37
Speaker 2: suspect it will be We're going to stay in the DC.
24:39
Speaker 2: Now it's early Tuesday morning. You can see there are
24:42
Speaker 2: top pass two for poor old Tom. He's rugged up,
24:44
Speaker 2: but funny a party is going on. I want to
24:47
Speaker 2: give you a sense of what the mood's been like
24:49
Speaker 2: over the last couple of days and the last twenty
24:50
Speaker 2: four hours in particular. Had to do that. I'm joined
24:53
Speaker 2: by someone who has been in the thick of it,
24:55
Speaker 2: James Radford, principle at Radford pr joins me. Now, James,
24:58
Speaker 2: thank you so much for st but this is probably
25:01
Speaker 2: your usual hour. You two have got a bit of stamina,
25:04
Speaker 2: like the new president. You've been there on the ground,
25:07
Speaker 2: you've been watching history. May this week give us some
25:10
Speaker 2: of your broad observations. What struck you the most.
25:15
Speaker 15: Good evening, Peter, Yes, I'm just in from the Liberty Ball,
25:17
Speaker 15: which is one of the three official inauguration balls this evening,
25:20
Speaker 15: which was a fantastic event, really well attended. But I
25:24
Speaker 15: think the main takeaway here on the ground that we've
25:26
Speaker 15: seen is everybody is excited. Everybody's really looking forward to
25:29
Speaker 15: the Trump presidency which has just begun. But the key
25:32
Speaker 15: takeaway I think is the celebration time is over and
25:34
Speaker 15: it's time to get moving on his agenda. Because Donald
25:37
Speaker 15: Trump's outlined a really strong agenda, a really big agenda,
25:40
Speaker 15: and as you know, with conservative governments, it's often hard
25:43
Speaker 15: to implement that agenda because you have the public service
25:45
Speaker 15: and the bureocracy who work against you. So conservative leaders
25:48
Speaker 15: have to work twice to really get their agenda moving.
25:52
Speaker 15: And the President Trump's also flagged energy projects, getting these
25:56
Speaker 15: off the ground, and these don't happen overnight. So I
25:58
Speaker 15: think the real key takeaway the celebration time is over
26:01
Speaker 15: and it's time to get moving. And we've seen that
26:03
Speaker 15: with the executive orders this afternoon, and we'll see that
26:05
Speaker 15: with the executive orders tomorrow morning and throughout the week.
26:10
Speaker 2: I know you there with a significant delegation of Australian
26:13
Speaker 2: business leaders, many of the long time Trump supporters, like
26:17
Speaker 2: missus Gina reyan Hart, how many are saying to you,
26:20
Speaker 2: I wish we had this sort of action here at home.
26:25
Speaker 15: Yes, well, Jenna Reinhart is really the de facto ambassador
26:28
Speaker 15: here on the ground. I know that President Trump knows her,
26:31
Speaker 15: he likes her, he recognizes her, and she was also
26:34
Speaker 15: the only Australian at his campaign launch when he announced
26:36
Speaker 15: he was running for president back in twenty twenty two.
26:39
Speaker 15: So what I'm hearing is that people really want a
26:43
Speaker 15: back to basics agenda. We want energy to be fixed,
26:47
Speaker 15: we want lower taxes, we want reform on immigration.
26:50
Speaker 16: This is what President Trump is outlined.
26:52
Speaker 15: That's what made him win so significantly, not only the presidency,
26:55
Speaker 15: we should recall, but also the House, the Senate and
26:57
Speaker 15: the popular vote. So real back to basics gender is
27:00
Speaker 15: what we're hearing here in Washington that should be brought
27:03
Speaker 15: back to Australia, and I hope we see that come May.
27:08
Speaker 2: How don't think it's How does the Trump team, I
27:10
Speaker 2: know you run into a number of them, Why you're there.
27:12
Speaker 2: How does a Trump team see their relationship with our politicians,
27:18
Speaker 2: particularly Kevin Rudd and the other labor police Pennywong that
27:21
Speaker 2: you've run into.
27:24
Speaker 16: Yes, well, Kevin Rudd and Pennywong.
27:25
Speaker 15: We run into them on Sunday night at a Conservative function,
27:28
Speaker 15: which was a bit out of character for them because
27:30
Speaker 15: I suspect that on the page have the same views
27:33
Speaker 15: as many of the people at the function. But I
27:35
Speaker 15: think Australia really runs the risk here of being seen
27:37
Speaker 15: as the irrelevant cousin when we really should be the
27:39
Speaker 15: favorite chart of the United States because we have so
27:42
Speaker 15: many similarities and with other regional tensions, we really should
27:46
Speaker 15: be up there in the United States eyes. But what
27:50
Speaker 15: we really need to see is more action, I think
27:53
Speaker 15: from the Australian side to really work with the Americans
27:57
Speaker 15: and have us recognize more positively.
27:59
Speaker 16: And I really think that's starf the top. So I
28:00
Speaker 16: hope we're not forgotten.
28:01
Speaker 15: About it, and I really hope that behind the scenes,
28:03
Speaker 15: we're putting in the hard work to really benefit from
28:06
Speaker 15: the Trump administration.
28:09
Speaker 2: All right, James unconscious, It's help us too. Now let's
28:11
Speaker 2: go to bed. Thank you so much for staying up,
28:14
Speaker 2: staying sober and joining me here tonight on Kredline. I
28:17
Speaker 2: know it's been a big day of parties. I'll tell
28:20
Speaker 2: you if Elbo was smart, he might do something formally
28:24
Speaker 2: with Gina Righthart, given Kevin rides absolutely out on the
28:28
Speaker 2: outer All right, after the break, wasting no time, President
28:30
Speaker 2: Trumps sign a flurry of executive orders, many have implications
28:35
Speaker 2: for us here in Australia. We'll get through that detail.
28:37
Speaker 2: Plus his own chief of staff from the first of
28:41
Speaker 2: Trump administration joins me and all the mechanics of the
28:44
Speaker 2: transition and what we can expect. Welcome back, still the
28:52
Speaker 2: calm Tony Abbott will join me for his reaction to
28:54
Speaker 2: the shocking anti Semitic attack on a daycare center in
28:58
Speaker 2: Sydney as hate has been a to festa by the
29:01
Speaker 2: Albanese government. But first, putting aside the pageantry of the inauguration, today,
29:06
Speaker 2: it's clear that President Donald Trump is wasting no time
29:10
Speaker 2: in pursuing his second term agenda in front of the media,
29:15
Speaker 2: behind the historic resolute desk in the Oval Office, America's
29:19
Speaker 2: forty seventh president sign off on a flurry of executive orders,
29:24
Speaker 2: putting his mark on the new administration, very clearly distancing
29:28
Speaker 2: from its predecessor. Joining me now, someone who's no stranger
29:32
Speaker 2: to the Oval Office all The man sitting behind the
29:35
Speaker 2: desk tonight is Donald Trump's former White House Chief of Staff,
29:39
Speaker 2: Mick mulvaney. Mick, welcome to the program. Look, I've shown
29:43
Speaker 2: my viewers those images out of the Oval Office today,
29:46
Speaker 2: the President behind the desk on day one, signing hundreds
29:51
Speaker 2: of executive orders. We'll get to the detail of what's
29:54
Speaker 2: in those orders in the moment. But the unfettered access
29:58
Speaker 2: of the media to him, pit in questions, exchange. It's
30:02
Speaker 2: such a departure from the hyper management of the buy near,
30:05
Speaker 2: isn't it.
30:06
Speaker 17: Well, it is a dramatic change. It's more like what
30:10
Speaker 17: Trump did in the first term. He had almost unlimited access,
30:14
Speaker 17: or the media had almost unlimited access to him from
30:15
Speaker 17: twenty seventeen to the two thousand and twenty one. Even
30:19
Speaker 17: the media here Peter started to complain towards the very
30:22
Speaker 17: end about Joe Biden's inaccessibility. Now, listen, there's one thing
30:27
Speaker 17: the press is going to have plenty of for the
30:29
Speaker 17: next four years, and that's the chance to talk directly
30:31
Speaker 17: to the President United States. We stopped a tradition when
30:35
Speaker 17: I was in the Trump White House. Typically the Press
30:39
Speaker 17: secretary would have a daily briefing. We stopped that because
30:42
Speaker 17: the President himself was talking to the press almost every
30:45
Speaker 17: single day.
30:46
Speaker 18: I absolutely expect that to continue.
30:48
Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about those executive orders. The border crisis,
30:52
Speaker 2: it was a priority. We knew that, so to energy,
30:56
Speaker 2: but also changes to US funding off the World Health
31:00
Speaker 2: Organization and declarations about gender. Now, he's very deliberate here.
31:06
Speaker 2: So how do you think Trump two point zero will
31:09
Speaker 2: be different this time?
31:11
Speaker 17: Well, what I tell people is that what they liked
31:12
Speaker 17: about Trump one point zero, they will like even more,
31:16
Speaker 17: and what they disliked about Trump one point zero they
31:18
Speaker 17: will dislike even more, just because he's better at the job.
31:22
Speaker 17: Keep in mind, when he won in twenty sixteen, it
31:25
Speaker 17: came not only as a surprise to a lot of people,
31:27
Speaker 17: it cheme as a surprise to him and his team,
31:30
Speaker 17: which means they hadn't done a lot of the work
31:32
Speaker 17: necessary to get ready to go into office. That's not
31:35
Speaker 17: the case. Now they've hit the ground running today. He
31:37
Speaker 17: did two hundred and twenty five executive orders in the
31:39
Speaker 17: first four years. He may do as many as two
31:42
Speaker 17: hundred this week alone. So now it doesn't surprise me
31:46
Speaker 17: that is it's Trump in high gear. By the way,
31:49
Speaker 17: it also doesn't surprise me. You mentioned the World Health
31:51
Speaker 17: Organization that has been an issue for conservatives in this
31:54
Speaker 17: country going back to the beginning of the COVID pandemic,
31:59
Speaker 17: when the World Health Organization, which we fund to a
32:02
Speaker 17: substantial degree, would not allow American observers and scientists into
32:07
Speaker 17: China for several weeks.
32:08
Speaker 18: In fact, it maybe several months.
32:11
Speaker 17: And that sort of gave rise to the question amongst
32:14
Speaker 17: Republicans conservatives here as to why are we paying an
32:17
Speaker 17: organization that doesn't allow us to actually do work with it.
32:20
Speaker 17: So doesn't surprise me that was one of the It
32:23
Speaker 17: surprised me is one of the first things. But it
32:24
Speaker 17: doesn't surprise me that it was on the list of
32:28
Speaker 17: initiatives that he wanted to put into place fairly early.
32:31
Speaker 2: We are African parlie of Australians with shearing that one
32:33
Speaker 2: as well, energy, it's a massive issue he domestically, and
32:38
Speaker 2: we're all watching this very closely, particularly his decision to
32:42
Speaker 2: leave a number of global climate agreements and really fast
32:46
Speaker 2: track US energy self reliance. How's this going to shake
32:50
Speaker 2: up things at home and abroad, Well.
32:53
Speaker 18: Fairly dramatically.
32:54
Speaker 17: Keep in mind, it's what he's counting on. He's made
32:56
Speaker 17: a lot of promises, Peter. Regarding inflation, Inflation is driven
33:00
Speaker 17: and in large part in this country, by government spending,
33:02
Speaker 17: and it's unlikely that that is going to change. So
33:05
Speaker 17: if Donald Trump is going to do something about inflation,
33:07
Speaker 17: he has to go to someplace else other than spending.
33:10
Speaker 18: In the two places he's looking at.
33:11
Speaker 17: Are regulation, deregulating making it easier to get goods and
33:15
Speaker 17: services to market that hens tends to reduce inflation. And
33:19
Speaker 17: then energy, which we have a lot of this country,
33:22
Speaker 17: as you do in your country, of a different sort,
33:24
Speaker 17: but we will be focusing on domestic energy production as
33:29
Speaker 17: part of Trump's efforts to keep energy costs down.
33:31
Speaker 18: Because energy costs.
33:32
Speaker 17: Are a lot more than just the gasoline you put
33:35
Speaker 17: in your automobile. It's also the cost of a lot
33:37
Speaker 17: of chemical products fertilizers that go into food, transportation costs, etc.
33:42
Speaker 17: So if he can get energy prices down, he might
33:44
Speaker 17: be able to do something about inflation. And he needs
33:46
Speaker 17: to follow through on that promise fairly quickly.
33:49
Speaker 2: You've worked in the White House, and I my viewers
33:52
Speaker 2: one to I what's really going on behind the scenes,
33:54
Speaker 2: what's the mechanics of this transition of power, and giving
33:59
Speaker 2: your window into things operated previously with Vice President Pence.
34:04
Speaker 2: Jdie Vance is a very different character. So what sort
34:07
Speaker 2: of role do you see him playing? Nick?
34:09
Speaker 17: How jd Vance fits into this administration will be one
34:13
Speaker 17: of the fascinating things to watch. Keep in mind, a
34:16
Speaker 17: lot of the people around Trump have been with him
34:18
Speaker 17: now for eight years. Jdi Vance has been with him
34:21
Speaker 17: for six or seven months, So be curious to see
34:23
Speaker 17: how he integrates into the team, whether or not he
34:27
Speaker 17: finds his issues, finds his footing, finds a place inside
34:30
Speaker 17: the Oval office, and becomes a trusted advisor to the president.
34:33
Speaker 18: He might he might not.
34:35
Speaker 17: That will be one of the things that political observers
34:38
Speaker 17: here in this country for sure, will be watching closely.
34:40
Speaker 2: All right, talk to me about the Congress, because part
34:42
Speaker 2: of the reason the President has signed all these executive
34:46
Speaker 2: orders is that Biden overturned his old orders, So how
34:51
Speaker 2: much of what he's put in place today will be
34:52
Speaker 2: backed up with legislation? How cooperative will his own party
34:57
Speaker 2: be in the Congress.
35:00
Speaker 17: It's an excellent question. Look, executive orders, to your point,
35:03
Speaker 17: aren't law. They're essentially directives to our executive branch as
35:08
Speaker 17: to how they are to function, how are they prioritize their.
35:11
Speaker 18: Time, their energy, and their money.
35:14
Speaker 17: And in order to be truly lasting, they have to
35:18
Speaker 17: be turned into legislation that comes out of the Congress.
35:21
Speaker 18: That is going to be really, really hard to do.
35:23
Speaker 17: Pet there's a very narrow majority of Republicans in the House,
35:26
Speaker 17: and even though there's a substantial majority of Republicans in
35:29
Speaker 17: the Senate, we have fifty three out of the one
35:30
Speaker 17: hundred seats. Most legislation, not all, but most legislation in
35:35
Speaker 17: our Senate requires sixty votes. So it's not like the
35:38
Speaker 17: Republicans can push through everything in both the House and
35:41
Speaker 17: the Senate easily. If they're going to pass significant legislation
35:44
Speaker 17: out of the Senate, in most cases, that will take
35:46
Speaker 17: at least seven Democrats.
35:48
Speaker 18: And it's unlikely that many.
35:49
Speaker 17: Of these Trump executive orders will be turned into legislation
35:53
Speaker 17: by Democrats in the Senate.
35:54
Speaker 2: President Biden pardoning the rest of his family members minutes
35:59
Speaker 2: before he walked out the door. President Trump pardning the
36:02
Speaker 2: January sixth protest is the moment he walks in. I
36:06
Speaker 2: have to be honest, the whole concept of a leader
36:09
Speaker 2: being able to partner individuals sits pretty uncomfortably with me.
36:14
Speaker 2: Are we likely to see this new weaponization at the
36:16
Speaker 2: legal system become a permanent feature of US politics?
36:21
Speaker 18: Yeah? I think we probably are.
36:23
Speaker 17: I think that the toothpaste is out of the tube,
36:26
Speaker 17: as we say this country, it's very difficult to put
36:28
Speaker 17: it back in. Keep in mind that Joe Biden had
36:30
Speaker 17: said for years that broad and sweeping pardons were wrong,
36:34
Speaker 17: that they implied criminality, and that he would never do them.
36:38
Speaker 18: Of course, he went back on all of those declarations
36:40
Speaker 18: and so forth.
36:41
Speaker 17: I fully expect Donald Trump to take it to the
36:43
Speaker 17: next level, pardoning not only his family on the way
36:46
Speaker 17: out the door, but probably many many members of his administration,
36:49
Speaker 17: even if they've done nothing that anybody ever.
36:51
Speaker 18: Thinks is wrong.
36:52
Speaker 17: It's sort of a really good insurance policy against a
36:54
Speaker 17: weaponized government coming back to get you. But yes, I
36:57
Speaker 17: do think there'll be a discussion in this country now
36:59
Speaker 17: about whether we need to limit that authority. And it's
37:03
Speaker 17: not only going to get worse before it gets better.
37:05
Speaker 17: So my guess is there will be a debate on this,
37:07
Speaker 17: both academically and politically and legislatively in this country.
37:10
Speaker 2: Well, how about it, Mick, Does today make you want
37:13
Speaker 2: to get back in the settle?
37:14
Speaker 5: Oh?
37:15
Speaker 18: No, listen, I had a great time. I wouldn't change
37:19
Speaker 18: it for the world.
37:19
Speaker 17: But I've found that being near politics is a lot
37:22
Speaker 17: better than in politics. For example, I'm going to go
37:25
Speaker 17: to bed shortly after this interview. My guess is the
37:27
Speaker 17: team in the White House has probably got six or
37:29
Speaker 17: seven hours ahead of them this evening. Donald Trump only
37:32
Speaker 17: sleeps about four hours a night, and he never sleeps
37:35
Speaker 17: right after a rally.
37:36
Speaker 18: He's a true extrovert, Peter.
37:37
Speaker 17: He draws energy from these public appearances, so he will
37:41
Speaker 17: be wound up and ready to go tonight, and he
37:43
Speaker 17: will expect his team.
37:45
Speaker 18: To be there with him.
37:46
Speaker 17: I've put in my time on that duty, and I'm
37:49
Speaker 17: glad to step back and let others enjoy the privilege.
37:52
Speaker 18: Thank you so much, Thanks, Peter.
37:56
Speaker 2: Oh I remember those hours also well, or a leaf
37:58
Speaker 2: the break well a little too late, too little too
38:02
Speaker 2: late for the Prime minister, months and months of rising
38:04
Speaker 2: anti Semitism. But what the next for Labour's Greenham Session
38:08
Speaker 2: Now that Donald Trump's pulled the US out of Paris
38:11
Speaker 2: and his drill baby drill agendas there, what about Australia.
38:14
Speaker 2: Former PM Tony Abbott up next, we back still the
38:22
Speaker 2: car now the blow to Chris Bowen's offshore wind dreams.
38:25
Speaker 2: But is pulling out of a controversial project off the
38:27
Speaker 2: New South Wales coast. Now does this mean it's the
38:30
Speaker 2: end of his plan to desecrate the Illawarra coastline. We'll
38:34
Speaker 2: get into that the first got plenty to get through
38:36
Speaker 2: with My next guest to join me here at the desk,
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Speaker 2: former Prime Minister Tony Abbott. Tony, great to have your
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Speaker 2: company tonight. I want to get into a lot of
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Speaker 2: domestic issues. But we've seen now a returned to the
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Speaker 2: White House of President Trump, heavy used today of executive orders.
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Speaker 2: I mean he's hit the ground running. It would all
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Speaker 2: be a lot wise the second time round, wouldn't we
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Speaker 2: absolutely right?
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Speaker 10: And he wants to who actually drain the swamp this time?
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Speaker 10: Last time he was effectively a novice in the White House,
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Speaker 10: He's been thinking a lot over the last four years,
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Speaker 10: what he did wrong, what he needs to do better
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Speaker 10: this time. And I would be amazed if trump Mark
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Speaker 10: II is not a big improvement on trump Mark one.
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Speaker 10: Not that there wasn't quite a bit to like even
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Speaker 10: in trump Mark one.
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Speaker 2: On energy specifically, because it's clearly going to be a
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Speaker 2: feature of our looming election campaign. He is upending the
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Speaker 2: whole net zero business. He's calling out the green agenda,
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Speaker 2: he's particularly calling out renewables. They're investing in gas and
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Speaker 2: nuclear drill, baby drill. What's this mean for Australia.
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Speaker 10: Well, if there's one aspect of today's speech that I
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Speaker 10: hope we would copy, it is this idea of declaring
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Speaker 10: an energy emergency. If we don't get more gas out
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Speaker 10: of the ground dramatically quickly, at breakneck speed, we will
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Speaker 10: either run out of domestic gas, we will have to
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Speaker 10: import it at very high cost, or we're going to
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Speaker 10: have to break contracts with our very significant partners like Japan.
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Speaker 10: So I hope that what the next election will do
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Speaker 10: is give an incoming coalition government an absolute mandate to
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Speaker 10: move without any further green delays. Or indigenous delays, to
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Speaker 10: get the Narrabrai gas field open and operating, to get
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Speaker 10: the Beaterloo gas field open and operating, and to get
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Speaker 10: these stalled gas fields to our north and west operating
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Speaker 10: in record time. We just have to treat this as
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Speaker 10: a national emergency and get it done.
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Speaker 2: And it's not just about cheaper prices for households in
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Speaker 2: their power bills. It's about manufacturing soft Is.
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Speaker 18: It exactly right?
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Speaker 10: Our challenges and competitors are not putting any constraints on
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Speaker 10: what they do. There's a lot of bogus talk about
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Speaker 10: what China is doing in the renewable space. Well, sure,
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Speaker 10: China is a big place and it's doing a lot.
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Speaker 10: But China is planning to open one hundred new culified
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Speaker 10: power stations and ten new nuclear power stations. Now that's
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Speaker 10: the kind of thing we need to be doing if
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Speaker 10: we are going to be serious about ending what has
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Speaker 10: been a period of military, economic, and cultural disarmament.
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Speaker 2: All right, let's got a culture values. How we are
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Speaker 2: being perceived at the moment around the world anti Semitism
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Speaker 2: and other horrific attack I fear we're just one episode
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Speaker 2: away from an Australian being killed. You've had serious security
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Speaker 2: briefings in the past. Has Labor licensed anti Semitism?
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Speaker 10: There are many problems with what the government's done, and
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Speaker 10: it all started with the toleration of that abominable display
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Speaker 10: in front of the Sydney Opera House back on October
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Speaker 10: the ninth, twenty twenty three. But at every step from
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Speaker 10: the Prime Minister down, we've been lecturing Israel, hectoring Israel,
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Speaker 10: treating Israel as a moral pariah. And when this is
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Speaker 10: the signal coming from government, is it any wonder that
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Speaker 10: poorly integrated migrants, cultural Marxists, the kind of render crowd
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Speaker 10: that most countries have. Is any wonder that this ugly
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Speaker 10: renter crowd is being seen on our streets weekend in
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Speaker 10: weekend out and a small group are resorting to acts
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Speaker 10: of effectively domestic terrorism.
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Speaker 2: We're allowing this hate in the mosques to continue. Much
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Speaker 2: of it goes online. You and I both know that's
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Speaker 2: how a lot of our young people are at risk
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Speaker 2: of radicalization. We're not deporting anybody. A lot of these
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Speaker 2: people are on foreign visas. This to me feels like
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Speaker 2: a vote hunt for labor with the Arab vote, Muslim
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Speaker 2: vote in Western Sydney.
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Speaker 10: I think the regrettable reality is that the Labor Party
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Speaker 10: is utterly torn. There are still some good people in
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Speaker 10: the Labor Party who understand that it's Australia's democratic solidarity
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Speaker 10: with Israel that matters, not some poorly integrated migrants religious
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Speaker 10: solidarity with other Muslims that matters. But far too many
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Speaker 10: senior people in the Labor Party. I guess some of
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Speaker 10: them have swallowed the cultural Marxist stuff about settler privilege
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Speaker 10: and Israel as a kind of a settler colonist state.
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Speaker 10: Some of them have been, I suppose, beguiled by the
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Speaker 10: electoral calculus. It's a really dire situation and I just
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Speaker 10: hope that the decent people inside the inside the Labor
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Speaker 10: Party can somehow find the backbone to fight for decent
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Speaker 10: Australian values here, because in the end, if a country
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Speaker 10: like Israel is seriously diminished, even destroyed, democracy everywhere, liberal
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Speaker 10: democracy everywhere is imperiled.
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Speaker 2: I've got to leave it there, Tony. But I want
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Speaker 2: to make the point the Prime Minister has not ruled
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Speaker 2: out that Australia would take some of these released terrorists,
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Speaker 2: Palestinian terrorists out of the jails in Israel. Well now
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Speaker 2: to be in fact that a prime minister can't rule
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Speaker 2: that out says everything to me.
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Speaker 10: We don't want to import any more of the world's problems.
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Speaker 2: No, all leave it there, Thank you, Tony. Good luck
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Speaker 2: for the year ahead. All right, after the break, we're
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Speaker 2: going to get into the green dream. It's in tatters tonight.
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Speaker 2: It is abandoning a controversial offshore wind farm. Welcome back
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Speaker 2: tomorrow night. I've got that big show on renewaballs. I've
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Speaker 2: been out there in the country plenty. I'd tell you
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Speaker 2: all get to that. But today Daily Telegraph reporting another
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Speaker 2: major energy company has backed out of wind farm plans
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Speaker 2: for the Yellowarra. There's some of the news south of
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Speaker 2: bulls a South Coast Blue Floats has reportedly decided to
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Speaker 2: focus on the astral Victorian market after being awarded a
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Speaker 2: separate contract in Gippsland by Energy Minister Chris Bowen. Here
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Speaker 2: was mister Boyne's response when asked about this issue today.
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Speaker 19: Different zones at different levels of interest. I'm not going
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Speaker 19: to go in the detail on all of them, but
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Speaker 19: all have received interest, all have received interest.
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Speaker 18: The Ila Warra.
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Speaker 19: Has I've declared and has received interest. I read a
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Speaker 19: report in the Daily Telegraph today which is incorrect. It's
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Speaker 19: still on Blue Float's website their interest. I'm not going
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Speaker 19: to go into details because I'm still in the middle
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Speaker 19: of a decision making process.
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Speaker 2: From what I'm doing now my responsible future Illawarra spokesman
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Speaker 2: Alex O'Brien Alex, So we listened there to Chris Bowen
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Speaker 2: saying that there's a lot of interest a Blue Float
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Speaker 2: in particular. He says, is still hot to drop this project.
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Speaker 2: Your projects listed on their website. Now we had a
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Speaker 2: look at this. It's not listed on the website. He's scrambling.
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Speaker 2: Does this tell you just how out of touch he is?
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Speaker 7: Yeah?
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Speaker 9: Look, you know it's just a few clicks to jump
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Speaker 9: on the website and you can see that, all of
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Speaker 9: a sudden on their main website and even the project
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Speaker 9: specific website no.
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Speaker 18: Longer have the Yela Wora mentioned.
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Speaker 9: But Peter, it's not only the Yelo Warra, it's also
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Speaker 9: the Hunter. It's also Portland that Blue Float have removed.
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Speaker 9: So we're talking about three other major projects in Australia
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Speaker 9: off the back of Blue Flight just recently pulling out
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Speaker 9: as well of New Zealand, and they had two projects there.
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Speaker 18: But what's really.
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Speaker 9: Important is that the Minister is also listening to industry
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Speaker 9: experts because developers signaling an issue here, but industry experts
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Speaker 9: like TRANSCRID have indicated that floating offshore wind they do
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Speaker 9: not see playing a part in our New South Wales
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Speaker 9: critical energy security. The CSIRO again you find very little
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Speaker 9: reference there. EMO excludes a lot of offshore projects and
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Speaker 9: so there's a lot of industry movement now on top
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Speaker 9: of developers, you know, withdrawing interest that should be signaling
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Speaker 9: some concerns there for the Minute and his offshore wind
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Speaker 9: ambitions in this country.
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Speaker 2: Just quickly, Alex, do you think this now means the
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Speaker 2: Elawarra is safe? Your region will not have an offshore
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Speaker 2: wind project.
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Speaker 9: Look, I think we're still waiting for the Minister to
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Speaker 9: make an announcement and we call upon him it's almost
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Speaker 9: been six months now since applications closed to come forward
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Speaker 9: to the community and be clear you know, in terms
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Speaker 9: of what's happening with the feasibility applications. So yes, look,
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Speaker 9: we're hopeful, but we need the Minister to accept the
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Speaker 9: reality of the situation, which is the economics don't stand
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Speaker 9: up floating offshore wind is you know, four times more
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Speaker 9: expensive than on shore. There's only, again, Peter, twenty five
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Speaker 9: floating turbines around the world and four hundred floating turbines
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Speaker 9: four hundred to six hundred sorry, have been touted for
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Speaker 9: the Hunter and Illawarra, and again you've got major issues there.
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Speaker 2: Thanks Alex. Will watch this closely, but well done. I'm
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Speaker 2: getting to a decision where you are tonight, excuse me
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Speaker 2: tomorrow night to join me. I'm going to take you
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Speaker 2: back to my old hometown of wit Shipproof in regional Victoria.
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Speaker 2: They are under attack from wind farms and transmission lines
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Speaker 2: like the Olla Warra, but they're in WHICHI farmers and
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Speaker 2: locals are fighting back. This is where the reality of
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Speaker 2: decisions made at international climate conferences by people like Chris
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Speaker 2: Bowen end up, where billions will be wasted trying to
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Speaker 2: bribe and bully farmers into rolling over and giving up
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Speaker 2: their land. Honestly, this is madness. It doesn't stack up,
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Speaker 2: and everyone here knows it. It's an election year this year.
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Speaker 2: Anthony Albanese is in the fight of his life to survive.
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Speaker 2: Just into Allen. They're coming for you too. Out here,
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Speaker 2: these farmers are angry, they're organized and they're up for
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Speaker 2: the fight.
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Speaker 18: I don't see how we can cover our small business.
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Speaker 16: In the case of a fire of burning out.
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Speaker 17: A few wind turbines are a battery facility right next
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Speaker 17: door to our farm.
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Speaker 9: These transmission lines, they've told us that it's no benefit
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Speaker 9: to us in these regions.
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Speaker 16: It's going from Melbourne to Sydney and we get nothing.
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Speaker 7: This four hundred proposed to ones within thirtykve out property,
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Speaker 7: so you.
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Speaker 18: Know, the company say you won't see and won't affect you.
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Speaker 4: Well, very flat country out here, so you'll definitely see them.
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Speaker 1: Our lives have always been this way. We're always farmers.
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Speaker 1: We're not going to drop the tools and head off
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Speaker 1: to Melbourne and do something else because we don't know
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Speaker 1: anything else.
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Speaker 2: Right. Serious allegations are bully and intimidation by officials as well.
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Speaker 2: Don't miss my special tomorrow night at six. Here's Andrew