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Episode 320: Justice (SG-U 1.10) · Get Into Gate: A Stargate Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Get into Gate episode three hundred and twenty talking some
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  Speaker 1: Stargate universe. I'm Mitch over there, Brendan mate mate to
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  Speaker 1: you and Maddie.
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  Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, Frank Walker from Nationals. I'd like to introduce
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  Speaker 2: to you my little friends that I brought in here
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  Speaker 2: to show you. This is my new obsession. These are
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  Speaker 2: called unstable unicorns.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we have a camera there, we have a camera. Now,
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  Speaker 2: now what it is? Oh yeah, okay, okay, that's closer. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: So this is my friend Stabby. It's a unicorn and
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  Speaker 2: he's got a knife strapped to his horn. That's why
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  Speaker 2: his name is Stabby. And then these.
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't actually excellent, got a notification of watching it
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  Speaker 1: look like I was looking at the time.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry that kind of demented play school? Is this
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  Speaker 2: and these other floor around here, these other flour around here,
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  Speaker 2: These are the These are the four unicorns of the Apocalypse.
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  Speaker 2: This is war, this is famine, this is pestilence, and
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  Speaker 2: this is death. Nice.
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  Speaker 4: Where's Josie cheer in? Josie, come on, mate, don't play
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  Speaker 4: quo with us. No, genuinely, your cabbage past.
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  Speaker 2: The only Josie I know. Drew Barrymore's character from Never
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  Speaker 2: Been Kissed Josie Grossie.
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  Speaker 4: You told us about Josie in one False step years ago.
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  Speaker 2: What you had a cabbage it's cannon. Now, maybe my
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  Speaker 2: sister had one that I dry humped, but I definitely
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  Speaker 2: never had a cabbage batch kid.
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  Speaker 1: It explains a lot. Actually, absolutely, we're talking to you.
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  Speaker 1: We're talking the episode Justice.
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  Speaker 2: Oh and I should have mentioned that is there's a
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  Speaker 2: there's a great robot chicken joke where they do my
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  Speaker 2: little pony lips pony punish mankind for it and then
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  Speaker 2: they made them un yeah, because they were like my
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  Speaker 2: little ponies, but these are these are unicorns.
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  Speaker 4: But it reminded me of that, so reminds me of Supernatural.
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, that was good.
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  Speaker 2: Good apps. Maybe I should name this one Sam instead
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  Speaker 2: of instead of stabby Shammy stabber stammer work.
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  Speaker 4: Before we kick off, guys, I just want to make
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  Speaker 4: you all aware, all the listeners aware that one of
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  Speaker 4: our great listeners, Ashley O G we call yeah G,
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  Speaker 4: was on a television show in Australia called Mastermind. Now Mastermind.
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  Speaker 4: The show is you do trivia and you have your
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  Speaker 4: own topic. Yeah, like a special topic.
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  Speaker 2: Specialty. There's general knowledge, but you get your own like
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  Speaker 2: specialty topic and it could be anything.
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  Speaker 4: It can be anything, and then you do general knowledge
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  Speaker 4: after that. So Ashley O g Has of course decided
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  Speaker 4: to go with Stargate SG one season one to ten,
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  Speaker 4: five five.
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  Speaker 2: It was, wasn't it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know why I said ten because you were
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  Speaker 2: secretly judging ash for being like, well, if I went
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  Speaker 2: on there, I'd be able to do one.
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  Speaker 4: I'd go one to seven. Imagine if it was no
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  Speaker 4: Wonder Wonder five. What if it was just seasons nine
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  Speaker 4: and ten.
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  Speaker 2: Nah?
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  Speaker 5: Nah.
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  Speaker 2: Someone else, someone else that she was up against, was like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: my special topic is and it was another TV show
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  Speaker 2: but it was like a mini series. Oh, Banded Brothers. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that's a banger. Still that feels like a bit of
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  Speaker 2: a cop out. Damian Lewis is it? Spielberg?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he and Hanksy sort of executive producer if he.
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  Speaker 2: Was like, oh, yeah, my special topic is. Tom Hanks
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  Speaker 2: is big, Like that's like you know what I mean. Like,
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  Speaker 2: at least with ash she went like, I'm gonna, I'm gonna,
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna school you'all on five seasons over one hundred
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  Speaker 2: episodes of TV. Yeah, yeah, so we've got the grab
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  Speaker 2: for this. Get Yeah, it's time to find out if
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  Speaker 2: as paid attention. It's Thursday night. You know what that means.
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  Speaker 6: It is trivia night at your local. Sorry, you can't
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  Speaker 6: make it. Instead, though, you're watching TV, which is just
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  Speaker 6: as good, if not better, because we are talking about Stargate,
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  Speaker 6: the State of Origin, Band of Brothers and Indira gun
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  Speaker 6: to you.
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  Speaker 2: There's no meat plate. But hey, you're kind of winner
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  Speaker 2: for just being here. I'm Mark Fodell. Welcome to Mastermind.
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  Speaker 6: First up is actually Oversby from WA taking on Stargate
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  Speaker 6: SG one. Let's begin time for our first contender.
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  Speaker 7: Your name Ashley Obersby, occupation volunteer and your special subject
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  Speaker 7: Stargate SG one, seasons one to five.
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  Speaker 6: Yes, okay, I cannot believe in the eleventy million episodes
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  Speaker 6: of this show that I've done.
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  Speaker 2: That is a real number that I did not make up.
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  Speaker 2: That we haven't done Stargate on the show. I did
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  Speaker 2: other surprise as well. What did you love about it?
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  Speaker 7: Well, like, the characters are wonderful, The characters are funny.
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  Speaker 7: It's the humor, isn't It isn't slapstick it's character.
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  Speaker 2: Driven humor, very dry at times.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, and there's like really dramatic moments as well, and
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  Speaker 7: like really cool action.
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  Speaker 2: Right, Ashley, are you ready? We will find out Your
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  Speaker 2: time starts now.
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  Speaker 6: Stargate SG one stars which actor as Colonel Jack O'Neill,
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  Speaker 6: the leader of a team traveling across the galaxy through
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  Speaker 6: special portals.
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  Speaker 2: Richard Dene Anderson correct.
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  Speaker 6: The feature length first episode of Stargate SG one, originally
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  Speaker 6: airing on July twenty seven, nineteen ninety seven, has.
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  Speaker 2: What title Children of the Gods correct.
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  Speaker 6: Martin Lloyd, the supposed conspiracy theorist who turns out to
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  Speaker 6: be an alien, goes on to create what fictional cybeyv
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  Speaker 6: show when whole Extreme correct? The Stargate SG one HQ
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  Speaker 6: has between thirty and forty glyphs on its inner ring
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  Speaker 6: and how many chevrons visible above the ramp on its
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  Speaker 6: outer ring seven correct. On the planet p x y
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  Speaker 6: eight eight seven, a source of the valuable element trinium,
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  Speaker 6: the village's animal spirit, Zaeos, appears as what creature.
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  Speaker 2: Wolf Raven. The parasitic creatures implanted.
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  Speaker 6: Into humanoid hosts, controlling them but also providing longevity and health,
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  Speaker 6: are the juvenile.
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  Speaker 2: Form of which alien race? Gold? Correct?
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  Speaker 6: A mysterious crystal skull in a huge alien pyramid is
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  Speaker 6: exactly like the one Daniel's grandfather found in what central
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  Speaker 6: American country?
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  Speaker 2: Please correct?
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  Speaker 6: What does O'Neill send through the stargate to Abydos to
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  Speaker 6: determine if Daniel Jackson.
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  Speaker 2: Is still alive? A box of tissues? Correct?
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  Speaker 6: Joelnard was the only prisoner known to have escaped from
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  Speaker 6: what prison? Moon that was terrorform to resemble Hell as
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  Speaker 6: described in Earth Religions Need to Correct. At the end
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  Speaker 6: of season one, under threat of being shut down, the
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  Speaker 6: team try to stop the invasion of Earth led by
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  Speaker 6: which Gold antagonist Apofice Correct? Who removes the symbiit from
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  Speaker 6: t Kilk in the episode Threshold in order to break
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  Speaker 6: his brainwashing by Pofus Master Bretech correct. Tilk's mentor Bratach
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  Speaker 6: is how old when the team meet him during a
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  Speaker 6: mission to stop Tilk's son's implantation.
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  Speaker 2: One hundred and thirty three correct?
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  Speaker 6: What is the title of the two part story in
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  Speaker 6: season two that features a plan to introduce a symbia
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  Speaker 6: to Cartera's dying father in exchange for alien help.
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  Speaker 2: The totekrah correct.
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  Speaker 6: The season four episodes Small Victories revolves around an attack
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  Speaker 6: on a Russian submarine by spider like machines called what
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  Speaker 6: Replicators Correct, which character played by Amanda Tapping is taken
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  Speaker 6: over by Symbio while trying to save someone during an
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  Speaker 6: evacuation mission cement The Kater Correct in the final episode
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  Speaker 6: of season four, SG one destroys the of Officer's fleet
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  Speaker 6: by first causing what to explode a sun correct fifteen points. Ashley,
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  Speaker 6: you knock that out of the park, out of the
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  Speaker 6: solar system, out of the quadrant.
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  Speaker 2: No way, that's a different franchise. That's the bitch. She'll good.
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  Speaker 2: He deserved it.
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  Speaker 6: Yes, we breathe, we're centered, were one with the universe
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  Speaker 6: and had backed.
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  Speaker 2: His chair, then see we should be we should be
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  Speaker 2: working production. Absolutely had a way very interesting show. So
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  Speaker 2: that is an unbelievable achievement.
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  Speaker 4: That was she she won, She won the she won
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  Speaker 4: the night. Yeah, and not only that, she did better
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  Speaker 4: than me. I was sitting in the bloody lounge.
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  Speaker 2: I got a couple wrong with with the zails question.
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  Speaker 2: I went to the wolf instead of that, and I
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  Speaker 2: would have said crow before I said Raven. Which they
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  Speaker 2: probably would have accepted.
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  Speaker 4: As soon as I said Wolf, I was like, it's
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  Speaker 4: a raven, you idiot, and.
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  Speaker 2: The other one just because it was he was so
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  Speaker 2: quick and the wording was weird, the seven chevrons idea,
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  Speaker 2: the way he worded that, I thought he was talking
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  Speaker 2: about the symbols, not the chevrons. So I was like,
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  Speaker 2: how many symbols on a gate when it's above the
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  Speaker 2: white and but ash I couldn't. But like the nay
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  Speaker 2: to one, I was like, oh, where did you get
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  Speaker 2: that from? Yeah? I would have said so car, Yeah
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  Speaker 2: I said so, but that's not right. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I can't believe how many like references or actual name
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  Speaker 1: mentions Joelana got in there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Jesus Christ.
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  Speaker 1: Like when it made one, I'm like, oh, that's interesting
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  Speaker 1: that would be one of the questions, Like, no, she's
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  Speaker 1: going to return two or three more times?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I guess if if you're going to specify seasons
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  Speaker 2: one to five, that's pretty much when Joel and I
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  Speaker 2: keeps showing it like keeping reference and then they just
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  Speaker 2: completely completely brushed you. I think I got eleven, Like,
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  Speaker 2: if I'm being honest, yeah, yeah, I think I got yeah,
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  Speaker 2: twelve or thirteen. No, it probably would have been more
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  Speaker 2: like eleven because there was there was the Zales one.
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  Speaker 2: There was Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: The other wording one that through me was the the
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  Speaker 4: Apophus one because he's like, what did he blow up?
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  Speaker 4: Because I thought it was at the end of season one? Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: because you know, said fleet But yeah, yeah, no, well done, Ash,
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  Speaker 4: I said, think I said pell tack, You're an idiot
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  Speaker 4: and big big shout to to Amazon if if you
• 10:04
  Speaker 4: don't think that someone was at home not knowing what
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  Speaker 4: starget was but then heard her.
• 10:08
  Speaker 2: Rattle off all that I might check.
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  Speaker 1: That out that show as if they wouldn't have that's
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  Speaker 1: a new fan coming at.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and even Mark Fanel said, like in the bajillianty
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  Speaker 2: episodes of that show they've done, that's the first time
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  Speaker 2: someone special subject has been stargting. Yeah, which is predamn
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  Speaker 2: impressed as a well done Ash. Good job.
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  Speaker 1: Episode number ten of season one of sgu Justice.
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  Speaker 2: Come on, mate, what if you got from me? I'm
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  Speaker 2: not going to leave you out to dry like that?
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  Speaker 2: What have you done for me? Give you a little
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  Speaker 2: a little some, a little flavor something I want, a
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  Speaker 2: little something. I don't know, it's going to test you
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  Speaker 2: both to see if you get the reference. God, I
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  Speaker 2: just read it. It's literally the name of the episode.
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  Speaker 4: Read what you said, Yeah, just says Justice. It was
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  Speaker 4: down there Gilmore. Girls, You're safe, You're safe. It is
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  Speaker 4: going to give a rural though.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, what is that? Jay and so Bob struck back
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  Speaker 2: a minute. What's her name? Shannon Elizabeth got a American
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  Speaker 2: American p Yeah, the name was Justice in that in
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  Speaker 2: that movie. It has been a minute since I've seen
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  Speaker 2: that movie. That's a fantastic franchise. Is great.
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  Speaker 1: That was my introduction to that franchise. Actually was the
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  Speaker 1: one before Dogma.
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  Speaker 2: Dogma was great. It's fantastic. I like Clerks too, Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Clerk, I ain't seen Clerks to Brozarie Dawson, I know, Bro, that's.
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  Speaker 2: The best Lord of the Rings pay out of all times. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: that's the one that I send you all the time.
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  Speaker 2: That he's walking and he's walking, and he's walking, and
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  Speaker 2: then here's here's here's the second movie.
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  Speaker 4: And to the left deep and then here's the third movie.
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  Speaker 2: So myself, that brings but goddamn, that is my Lord
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  Speaker 2: of the Rings right there.
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  Speaker 1: That's and that's fine. Yeah, yeah, I appreciate it when
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  Speaker 1: I get to it. Eventually. He only came out fifteen
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  Speaker 1: twenty years ago. It's fine, I'll get to it.
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  Speaker 2: Justice.
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  Speaker 1: Not that you're going to drop in a little bit
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  Speaker 1: of didn't and give me.
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  Speaker 2: That bed to play with. That a bit of law
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  Speaker 2: and order. That's your stuff, mate. You were giving me something.
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  Speaker 2: You said you had a gift for me. Yeah, but
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  Speaker 2: from me. I'm not going to give you something, Kevin.
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  Speaker 2: I've got to gift for you later. Maddie. Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that is that where you touch a fleg. That's a
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  Speaker 2: different thing Mitch before you got here. Yeah, I don't
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  Speaker 2: worry about preview.
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  Speaker 1: Sergeant Spencer is found dead from a gunshot wound in
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  Speaker 1: his quarters and the missing weapon is discovered in Colonel
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  Speaker 1: Young's room. He has put on trial for murder and
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  Speaker 1: seeds command to Camelle.
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  Speaker 2: Ray, I just realized what a what a missed opportunity
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  Speaker 2: there was for one of the what could have been
• 12:51
  Speaker 2: the greatest Keno entry ever, which well, I suppose you
• 12:54
  Speaker 2: could have had a Kino, but like, I want a
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  Speaker 2: flashback scene to Sergeant Spencer and thud flergent failure having
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  Speaker 2: a conversation with each other that would have been that
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  Speaker 2: would have been all the time. I would have loved that.
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  Speaker 2: The Baldies dead, Mitch hen he gone hey. Fun fact.
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  Speaker 2: So the original title for this episode was Judgment and
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  Speaker 2: then it got changed to Justice. But just to bring
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  Speaker 2: back just a little, a little, a little dead segment
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  Speaker 2: of around the World. Uh. The check name for this
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  Speaker 2: for this episode being justice. The check word for justice
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  Speaker 2: is mm hmm. Spit of asking me sounds verir right.
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  Speaker 2: I just I just find that a fun word. That's
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  Speaker 2: a new vocal stymp for me. I don't mind that.
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  Speaker 2: Just to have d like to to go d l
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  Speaker 2: N in a row like in a word one word
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  Speaker 2: that has d l N in a spot of edel nourse.
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't work out that. Yeah, no, I need something
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  Speaker 2: to break that up. We love it. Yeah, this I mean,
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  Speaker 2: for one, this show is.
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  Speaker 1: Interesting in how it highlights the previously on because you
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  Speaker 1: get I mean, I guess a lot of previously ons
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  Speaker 1: do this, but some of them are subtle enough it's just.
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  Speaker 2: Like, hey, this is vaguely what's been going on.
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  Speaker 1: Whereas this show gets into some almost like soap type
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  Speaker 1: territory where it'll showcase some characters and highlight a few
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  Speaker 1: exchanges where you almost get a feeling of where it's
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  Speaker 1: really going to go. So like when it popped up
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  Speaker 1: and it's oh, well, he's gonna be dead, like very
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  Speaker 1: quickly before it became like that's the story of the episode.
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  Speaker 1: I think I had even forgotten that it was called Justice,
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  Speaker 1: so I wasn't sort of looking for something that would
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  Speaker 1: point that way. Oh Baldy here got I'm sorry about
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  Speaker 1: your luck, mate, But like, yeah, something like that in
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  Speaker 1: this show, Like if someone died in Atlantis, you'd be like, Okay, well,
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  Speaker 1: are they's an invading alien that's taken them or something
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  Speaker 1: happened a couple of times that.
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  Speaker 2: Really annoying guy from the first season, the head of security.
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  Speaker 2: I would have like of him to have died. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: a season of Atlantas that guy who was like accusing
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: Taylor of stuff? What are you talking about? Wasn't he black?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know brown, quadroon, I don't know who you're
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  Speaker 2: talking about. It's an African macaron. I have no idea.
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  Speaker 2: There's a joke from Archer when Archer and Lana have
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  Speaker 2: a baby, the mother calls it a quadroon, not t
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  Speaker 2: two guy security guard. Now let's move on, Colonel, Colonel,
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  Speaker 2: Colonel dead in the first episode, Colonel Terminator Tellford, No,
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  Speaker 2: that's that's this show, Colonel God damn it. All right,
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  Speaker 2: Colonel Holly, We're not going to google it. Absolutely, We're
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  Speaker 2: going to sit here and do we figure it out.
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  Speaker 2: Reggie Reggie Reginald peronl some not slappy slappy bag? Or
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  Speaker 2: was that the guy that replaced him in the siege?
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  Speaker 2: Remember that guy that got fed on by a wraith
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  Speaker 2: as well? Does it count? Does imd being a counting
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  Speaker 2: a as schoogling it? Colonel Marshall Nasonite, Colon slappy it
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  Speaker 2: is slappy bag.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, when that happens in this show, it's like, oh, ship,
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  Speaker 1: but like, hang on, it's not something from outside. And
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  Speaker 1: if they if they do find that it's it's a like,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, he's clearly clearly he's been murdered. What do
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  Speaker 1: they do with that person other than just execute them
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  Speaker 1: and go put him in the same room as Chloe's dad, Like,
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  Speaker 1: what do they.
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  Speaker 2: Do into the broken shuttle?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's funny because it's been so I've
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  Speaker 2: seen this show and I didn't remember most of it.
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  Speaker 2: My first thought was, oh, someone's taken over someone else's
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  Speaker 2: body through the stones and killed him, you know what
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  Speaker 2: I mean, like someone from Earth has you know, swap
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  Speaker 2: bodies or something was gonna be some kind of body
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  Speaker 2: swap shenanigans.
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  Speaker 7: Oh.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't even think about that way to have done it, though. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that would have been nice. That was that was my
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  Speaker 1: first thing maybe. Yeah, I will say though, and you
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  Speaker 1: know me.
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: Like Telford killing Young Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I am.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: I am one thousand percent a Camille Ray apologist because
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: I love Meg. Nah was that much? But damn did
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  Speaker 2: she go hard at the start of this episode, like
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  Speaker 2: unnecessarily hard. Like I was just like she was just
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: like looking to assign blame like straight away. But I
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: will say she was right in her thought of, well,
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: why was Spencer, why did he sign out a gun? What?
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: What did he need to sign It's not like they're
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: allowed to go and do shooting practice. Yeah, they don't
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: have there are great questions asked, you know, but yeah,
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: she just she went she went to hundred real quick,
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: and I was like, oh no, I don't like that,
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: especially when your h you're supposed to have some tact. Yeah. Yeah,
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: I don't know if they do. She's the she's the greatest,
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: hut everything. He's a prosecutor. What would we do?
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, imagine a scene with Weir and Camille just like
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: having just like a moral quandary, like just oh.
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: God, I'm back in Camille to like, hold out, how
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: about this one?
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: Am I interrupting something? No, sir, already to back your play.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: I won't be necessary.
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: So she's going to close the investigation for lack of
• 18:46
  Speaker 5: evidence against me. I, in return, will be stepping down
• 18:50
  Speaker 5: from this moment on she is in command.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: Hold on, Colonel, it is arrested. Every one of my
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: expedition members is willing to take im in light on
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: the adventure we are.
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: You're alsome, the bravest, but as all of you know,
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: we may never be able to return home.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: We go through together. There you go. That was your present.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: Thank you good that you're able to present, because otherwise
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: I was like, how much did that hurt you?
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: That was a punish Honestly, It's so funny when you
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: go from kind of this aesthetic of s g U
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: and the way they speak, and then you cut to
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: the pilot of Atlantis and you're like, wow, that is
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: such a different time.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: Imagine. Now I'm starting to imagine, what if imagine a
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: world where Colonel Young was the leader of the like
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: the he took He took Joe Spot, and then Shepherd
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: was the was the leader of the destiny. Damn, you'd
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: be banging. James will be looking twice at Matt no Way,
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: and even Chloe. Chloe and and Lieutenant James would both
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: be like, hello, Hello, Hello, Colonel Shepherd. I'll let you.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: I'll let you. Heard my cheap Absolutely, I mean the
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: Steam Show, I miss weird.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: Imagine that echoing in the halls of the destiny.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: Maybe it's really quiet. Isn't it too mean to say?
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: But I was gonna say, maybe maybe that's why the
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: Amazon show got canceled. Maybe they wrote Weir back into it.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: Maybe they were like, we're gonna get Reppler Weir. We
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: found her in space and yeah, but that that kind
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: of I don't like committe Yeah, I think Camille goes
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: too hard. I think she makes good points.
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but yeah, it didn't doesn't make sense why they
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: have a gun because what did he say? Because it's
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: they're part of their duty or something.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's like if he's not on on duty
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: if he's not doing like security, then like if you
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: think about the SGC, when SG one comes back off world,
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: we see there's multiple episodes where they're handing off their
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: guns to the whatever they're called, and they're looking after
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: all that stuff. So there's no way that if he's
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: not on Judy, he should have a gun, and when
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: he comes off Judy, he should be hanging that gun
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: into the armory, you know what I mean. So it
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: doesn't make sense that he would have that hanger because
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: he can't go and do target practice. A. They don't
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: have anywhere to do it because they were on a spaceship.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: B they can't waste the ammunition. And that's the biggest
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: crime here is Spencer wasted a bullet.
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: And I think it was just I was like, oh,
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: here we go again, like kind of we've done this.
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: It's going to be a trial episode. Yes, I'm really
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: worried about that.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: I thought the same thing. I was like, in a way,
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: it's too early for a trial episode. But I did
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: enjoy kind of the thought experiment of much like what
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: you've said in the past about Atlanta, in that it's like, well,
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: they don't have to follow Earth rules if they don't
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: want to. Yeah, you know, and this is an extra step.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: So it's like they could Like I love the way
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: Young handled it, the way that he stood down during
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: the investigation, like that was really really good. But yeah,
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: he could have just said I'm in charge. It's not me,
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: I've got the military. Yeah, he could have been you know,
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: martial law or whatever. So it was a nice thought
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: experiment on how they handle these kinds of situations. But yeah,
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: I'm glad the courtroom scene wasn't more than really just
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: what a couple of years, which was which was nice.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: I actually, yeah, I wrote Lord of the Flies here
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: because that's why I was worried it was going to
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: go into territory. Yeah. I actually didn't think about it
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: enough to worry.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: I think because when it was at the start and
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: it's like, hey, this is a murder, and I was like,
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: holy shit, what does a murder look like in this
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: isolated place? And then how are they going to have
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: a court room trial sort of situation?
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: How do they divvy it up?
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: So I was I think I would have happily watched
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: an episode on that. But I can understand why, you know,
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: you guys would feel different and I'm sure if I
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: go back and I watched the second time, like you
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: guys are, I'd be like, Okay, this, this, this.
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: I think it's just because SG one did a try Yeah, Coori,
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: they did one in Atlantis. Yeah, when Varla got put
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: on try it, that's what I said, Like the Jack
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: o'neel line in Window of Opportunity, We've done this, done this,
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: and that's what I was worried about. But yeah, I
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: feel this was one of my favorite parts of that
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: part of the show was when Chloe and Ray were
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: going at it.
• 23:51
  Speaker 8: I need to talk to you now.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: We're trying to get to the truth. I don't think
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: that's even possible.
• 23:58
  Speaker 8: We can't afford to have it unsolved hanging over our head.
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: So forget about the possibility that the colonel is being
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: framed and.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: Just get this. I don't think Colonel.
• 24:06
  Speaker 8: Young is so far above reproach as you seem to
• 24:08
  Speaker 8: think he is.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: Oh, well, you're the human resources person. You would know
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: all about that.
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: In fact, you probably know more about every person on
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: this ship than anyone. If we're throwing do you process
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: out the window?
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: Who do you think did it? We'll just go with that. Well,
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: I see what's going on here. I am smack damn
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: in the middle of a good old fashion. I knew
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: there was a reason you use the phrase Ray and
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: Chloe going at it. I knew there was a reason
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: you used that particular. But that was very satisfying Chloe's
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: shutting her down. Yeah, very good. Yeah, Camille had nothing,
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: had nothing at that point because there was no reason
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: for her to go that hard.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: It was such a fancy way of saying, well, someone
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: needs to be blamed for it, so why not him? Yeah,
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: that was all that was. It wasn't like I've got
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: evidence or I've got it. It's like she's like, do
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: you think he did it? Well, he's not as above reproach.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: It's like that, yeah, good on it. Yeah, just stepping up.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: There's a difference between due process, like Chloe says, and
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: just a man hunt, you know. And that's what I
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: think Camille was getting towards. Well, yeah, I think her
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: own opinions about about Young where I think clouding. Well,
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: I thought it was she wanted to be in charge.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: Well yeah that too, I suppose. Yeah, there is there
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: is moving I guess, not spoiling for Mitch, but there
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: is this weird triadic nature almost of Young and Ray,
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: both kind of vying for leadership, but also kind of Rush.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: But Rush doesn't want to be in charge. He just
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: wants to well, yeah, he wants to be too icee
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: and manipulate. Like I was saying the other week, you know,
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: in the way he knew how to manipulate Telford strategy. Yeah,
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: he wants he whoever out of Young and Camille, he
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: thinks he can manipulate the easiest. He wants them in charge.
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: I think he well, I think you see it in
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: the in the show. He comes in and goes, congratulations,
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: you're the boss, and I want to just be science
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: team she has.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: Is that it? He's like, that's all I've ever wanted. Honestly,
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: I don't if the human resources people management is yours.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: I need people to do what I say and if
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: they don't, old wine to you and you deal with it.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: He's like, he's just an evil mirror image of Macay. Yeah,
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: he's He's like if McKay wasn't so obsessed with himself, yeah,
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: then he would be like Rush. Yeah, it's almost And
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: then Rodney has like a sense of humor too, whereas yeah,
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: he cares what other people think, but he also cares
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: mostly he cares what other people think about him, Yeah,
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: whereas does not give a ship what anyone thinks about him.
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he he has. And that I've just found
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: this in the recent rewatch is just that he's always
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: for the greater good. And I've said it before, yes, yes,
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: and he's always happy for sacrifice and whatnot. But you
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: do get that that line through where it's just like
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: he won't sacrifice himself or he will, he would if
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: you thought it was worth it.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: I feel like you reckon. I think so interesting because
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: I had I had a very interesting kind of sort
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: of thought at the end, and I think this this
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: might be one of the reasons why this was such
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: a whiplash of a show for people coming off SG
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: Wanted Atlantis is. At the end of the episode, my
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: thought was, well, are Young and Rush redeemable? You know
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: what I mean?
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: For what both of them did. And this is the
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: episode where I've foreshadowed where I just lost it with Young.
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: I was just like, yeah, just because you don't like
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: the guy. Yeah.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: I feel like if this had been SG Want or Atlantis,
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: that whole thing would have happened the exact same way
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: you would have seen Young walk away. But then when
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: it comes time to Young, for Young to walk through
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: the puddle, he would have been dragging Rush with him. Yeah,
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: you know, because if that was the planet, Yeah, if
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: that was O'Neil or Shepherd or you know anyone like that,
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: or even you know, tel Shankxy, even Ford, you know
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: what I mean, Like they would sure they would be
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: the crap out of him for framing him for murder.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: But after they walked away, they went, no, I can't
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: if I if I leave him on this planet, I
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: am sendencing him to death. And then the fact that
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: Young then also lied when he got back, it's like
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: that this is gonna make it shopping.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: Which you know, if if you did lose someone under
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: your command and that was the truth, they die, they
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: didn't make it, and you were blaming yourself for it,
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: maybe you still would walk out of that room. But
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: us as the audience knowing that, and I think, you know,
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: I want to I want to like him for making
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: the right decisions and whatnot. So I think I would
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: have almost preferred it to have gone like if I
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: could choose that character, like come on, men, do the
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: right thing is that that still happened, but maybe after
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: a bit of a tussle, as opposed to like, no,
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: he planned that he wanted that.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: The moment Rush is like, I want to stick around,
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: He's like, you guys, go I'll stay with him. Yeah, dude.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: It wasn't like a all right, I'll see what he's doing,
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: then have the talk with him. Yeah, and then on
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: the way back they argue, argue, slap, punch, fall down
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: a hill, and then go, okay, now it's I'll take
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: advantage of the fact that he's unconscious or he fell
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: behind or something.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: It's like, no, that was premeditated murder. Yeah. Yeah. And
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: then I also kind of I feel it was a
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: little bit clunky in the writing. If you sort of
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: focus on it a little bit, you go, well, had
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: that not all happened, Rush only would have ever gotten
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: ninety seconds to look at that alien ship before they
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: all got to head back, Like like young only just
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: made it through, and he would have been moving a
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: lot faster than Russia. Why wouldn't bring a keino and
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: take video footage of it? Yeah, So it was it
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: was a little it felt a little forced to get
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: Rush and Young alone on that planet. It's like, I
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: don't think when it's like when Young gets back, obviously
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: the gate turns off, so they can't go and like
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: get his body or whatever. So I get that, but
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: it just if that had been a normal mission or
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: Rush probably wouldn't have made it back in time anyway,
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: so Young never would have let him go. So but
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: then I guess, maybe to disprove my own point, maybe
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: Young knew that. Maybe he looked at his watch and went, okay,
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: when you know, yeah, he might not have gotten that opportunity,
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: but maybe he went in with the intent of getting
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: the opportunity to leave Rush behind, and maybe he knew
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: that they were going to be cutting it close. I
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: don't know.
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not technically you're not murdering the guy, but
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: you're leaving him today. Yeah, it's the same thing. Yeah,
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: and that.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: It's hard for me the first time because I do
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: want to like Young, and I've said that throughout the
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: whole series so far. I think season two he's just
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: kind of like, it's not a separate story, but you
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: can leave season one behind. Yeah, it's a weird kind
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: of like I don't think I ever forgive either of
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: them for what they did in this episode. But as
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: an audience, I think we just forget because so much
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: other you know, stuff happens, you just kind of forget
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: that this happened, and like, I don't.
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: That's why I've mentioned so much about the morality of
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: the characters and how good they are in SG one
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: and Atlantis, that this wouldn't happen. And maybe that's why
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: this They wanted to go in this direction, but I
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: think you can just they pushed it.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: Too far, too much, too quickly. Yeah. Yeah, maybe if
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: Atlantis had been a midway huh, midway between SG one.
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: Maybe if Atlantis had been a little darker than SG one,
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: then this they wouldn't have been so much like Shock
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: getting into universe. Yeah, but I would counter that, you know,
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: when Atlantis was, you know, first in development, battle Cycleact
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: together reboot didn't exist yet, and you know, this was
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: very much trying to to emulate that. Yeah, like use
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: that all the all the momentum that that show had
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: created to be like, Okay, maybe we can explore this darker,
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: grittier kind of side. But yeah, maybe they just went
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: too hard, too quick, And to bring up my beloved
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: Gilmore Girls. It's like if you if you watch season
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: seven and they are talking a million miles an hour,
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: and that show is known for their like whip crack
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: speed dialogue, if you then go back and watch the pilot,
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: you go, oh my god, they're talking so slowly, but
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: they're still talking faster than any other traditional show. That's
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: a time but you just see how so it's like
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: it's not the same as Daniel Jackson. Yeah, yeah, exactly
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: exactly season season nine. You're like, what did he say? Yeah, yeah,
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: he got time to wait for you. Yeah yeah, so position. Yeah,
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: so maybe maybe if they had have just gone a
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: little lighter on Universe and then built up to the darkness,
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: maybe it would have been more palatable then. Yeah, but
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: you know the flip sides, maybe it was always destined
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: to only go two seasons and we wouldn't have got
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: to the darker stuff. So you know, hindsight, it's always
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty.
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: I just yeah, I just feel like a card. Yeah,
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: I just can't get past it. It's I guess. There's
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: also and they talk about a letting Star Trek where
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: it's like franchise fatigue, whereas it's like you know, after
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: like four series running seven seasons each a couple of
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: hundred episodes, there's only so many stories to tell. So
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: maybe and you know, you know me, I wasn't a
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: huge fan of season four and five of Atlantis, so
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: maybe it was just it was the way for you know,
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: Brad and Joe and Cooper and everyone else to just
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: try something different, just like, let's let's throw this shit
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: up on the wall see what sticks. And unfortunately it
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: didn't get a chance, because the back end of season
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: two is great, you know, it's really really, really good.
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: So it's a shame it didn't get more.
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: But I feel like now I think this is the
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: fourth or fifth time I've seen the whole show. Yeah,
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: I can get over it pretty quick.
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's one of those things like I can watch
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: the show, but I don't. I never go, oh, I
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: really want to rewatch that. It's not like it's I
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: want to rewatch First Ones or I want to rewatch
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: Window of Opportunity. I never crave watching this show. I don't.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: I don't miss these characters when I haven't watched the
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: show in a while. Same as what's Brad show like Travelers?
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: Like Travelers is amazing to watch. But it's not like
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: if you rewatch that show, you have to rewatch the
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: whole thing. You can't just pick one episode, same as
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: I guess what I've always done with season nine and
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: ten of Atlantis of SG one, It's like, it's very rare.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: I'll just pick one episode unless it's like two hundred
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: or one end, but otherwise it's like I'm going to
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: watch all of season nine and all season ten. You know,
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: as a.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: Rewatch, I wonder what your first first memory of watching it,
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: how much that sort of sticks around in a way,
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: even if you come to like it ten times more
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: than you did the first time, just having that sort
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: of like cemented first reaction to the episode, because you know,
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: like I'm in a blessed position. I meant to say
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: it the other day in our our episode on Stave Stargate,
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: is that I am a huge fan of this franchise,
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: but I also never watched Atlantis and I never watched
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: sgu Can you call me a die hard fan if
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: I'd only seen one of the three shows, probably not.
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: One fan.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: And I just I just kept pushing aside or pushing
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: further uphill Atlantis, knowing that I would eventually get to it.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: It's because you knew that you're going to do a podcast, rewatch,
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: I mean fresh, I mean you love your stats. And
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: if you think about it, there's seventeen seasons of Stargate.
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: You hardcore watched ten seasons, and then there was seven
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: you hadn't, So you've you've watched the most of the Yeah,
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: I was good. Yeah it was a past month. Yeah,
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: it was like a what A C plus B.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: Minus something like that. So I've been I'm very well
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: versed in that. To be honest, I should know the answer.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: But I've been lucky the last couple of years that
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: I have been watching fresh Stargate. Yeah, I'm in a
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: very privileged position in the Stargate community, fandom, whatever. But
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: then especially with sgu I'm watching this now and we
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: come in and we did the podcast on the pilot,
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: and I loved it. I couldn't get over how much
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: I loved it because I had no idea the aesthetics.
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: I knew a handful of the actors that were in it,
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: I knew nothing about the show otherwise, and I was
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: so happy with how much I enjoyed that first episode.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: But those first.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: Three that we come in to talk about all parts
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: of air, and I wondered, and I have every time
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: I pressed playing in one of these episodes, I'm like,
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: I don't know that I would have liked it if
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: I would have watched it back in two thousand and nine,
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: twenty ten. So I'm so happy that I am watching
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: it now because it is cementing that first time reaction
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: that is really positive.
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: I'm actually glad that we get to spoon like trickle
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: feed you with it as well. Yeah, I'm fairly certain
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: I didn't ever watch Universe on television. I don't remember
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: like I would have seen it, like I would have
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: gone and bought the option to see the season one,
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: put in the first DVD and just watched the whole
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: like which the first three episodes or four episodes or whatever,
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: put the next disc in and kind of got a
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: little bit of like, oh, this has lost a bit
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: of momentum, you know, you know what I mean. Whereas
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: at least with you A, you know you're going to
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: watch the whole thing, but we're also like, you can
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: you know you're watching a couple of episodes a week
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: and that's it, you know, So there's there's less chance
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: of you to get that fatigue.
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: And yeah, well and maybe because of that, I now
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: we're getting into you know, episode nine and ten, and
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: we're hitting that sort of midway through season one mark.
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean this is the mid season finale. I
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: just read that.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: I was just looking at when I looked at the synopsis,
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: I actually didn't of course it would be.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: But my fun fact, next week was actually supposed to
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: be the mid season finale. Yeah, but because Fire got
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: turned into Darkness and the Low as a two parter
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: got pushed.
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so well, I guess at the end of
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: this episode makes so much sense as as a little cliffhanger. Absolutely,
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: but yeah, maybe now that we're at this stage of
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: the season, it's a bit hard to go back and
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: do it. For those when I would go and watch
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: episode four and five, and then six and seven, and
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: then it was eight nine, and I'm like, maybe I
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: should rewatch all of it, Like I was just I
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: just wanted to relive your story up and no, just
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: I again, because it is that sort of like chapter
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: of a book as opposed to singular episodes sort of
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: feel compared to the other two shows.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: It's more like modern TV.
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: Now.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I haven't watched an episode of this show
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: yet that I that I didn't like, so I've just
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: wanted to relive it. And it is one that I've
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: wanted to sort of say to my wife and go, hey,
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: I'm going to start this show again.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: Do you want to watch it with me?
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: Because I think maybe you would like it because it
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: isn't just like, hey, we're going to go out there
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: with crazy weapons and fight really bombastic looking aliens and
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: space fights.
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: It is about these characters and stuff. So yeah, Brendon,
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: you should be with only what thirty episodes of the
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: show left to go. She said to me the other
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: day that Sarah was like, should I should I listen
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: to the podcast? Should I know? Should I start? Should
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: I be joking with a friend? She's like, yeah, I
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: think it was my brother. Should I watch an episode
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: first and then listen to the pod or watch a
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: couple And then.
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: She's like his like, his podcast is really popular with
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: him and his friends, and he's like, oh really because
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: he used to watch the show when he was a kid.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: And then we got home that no, we did the
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: record for I can't even think it was two episodes
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, and I got up and
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: she said, should I I think I might start like
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: it's almost to apologize to me. I'm like, I don't care.
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: And she said, but should I watch an episode and
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: then listen to the podcast? I should I do a
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: few and then go what should I do? And she said,
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: hang on, but didn't you say that it gets a
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: bit like you guys get a bit like gross sometimes
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: and I'm.
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: Like, oh yeah, but sometimes.
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: Oh.
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: That was the episode we talked.
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: It was life because I said, okay, look take for instance, okay,
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: they do this big body, then give you this woman
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: goes into another woman's body. She goes back to visit
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: her wife, but she doesn't look like herself, but she
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: visits her wife. And then we talk about the fact
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: of like, you know, okay, friends, I brought up the
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: fact that she met reference how food tastes different, but
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: then it became like how other things and taste different, and.
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: You know, we naturally we're going to get into those tangents.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: But then I said, in an instant, we're then talking
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: about quantum physics, and with it would sound like an edit,
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: but it's not. We just get and I said, look
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: that that's you've hung out with me and Brendan Okay,
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: and our school friend we.
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: Met on k We're still hanging out, so you can't
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: be come on. She knows. Yeah, she kind of knows
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: what she's in for. But also, you know, once it
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: gets to like old lady weirmazin all over Atlantis for
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: twelve years, Yeah, it's.
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: Like skip skip somewhere and the what was that late
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: season one or early season two, late season mid season one,
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: mid season one, It's like skip that part maybe.
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: Where she used everything in that. Yeah, and that's that's
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: what I did though. That's why the drop sh problem.
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: That's it was not just it happened. Was that long
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: that you weren't there? You can't approve it didn't happen.
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: The ocean got a couple of centimeters deeper. God, that
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: drop sheet line was hilarious. Oh my god, that's so good.
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: One day she will listen. My kids will be listening
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: to it as well, and they'll be like, oh, actually, yeah,
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: well your oldest is what thirteen? Now, Yeah, he could
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: learn a few things if he listened to her podcast.
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: I showed Jack, my son Jack the Ball Chronicles the
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: first one, Everyone's gone.
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: Ball ball ball excellent. Hey, a couple of little interesting
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: things I noted in this episode. One, my beloved MiG
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: Nah is a series regular as of this episode, it's
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: not and also like to not a guest starring mcnaw.
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: She's added to the main the main credits, which is
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: interesting to be like, the mid season finale is a
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: weird time to do it. I think it'd either be
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: next week's episode or I thought it was next season.
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: But yeah, this episode she's she's added to the main
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: credit and no wonder she came in hot. Yeah, she's like,
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: I need to earn my paycheck this week. Oh, by
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: the way, if if anyone's on TikTok, mick Na has
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: the most amazing TikTok where she like like she cooks
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: and tells stories and she she's a she's a massive nerd.
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: She has like, you know, my nerd room upstairs. She's
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: got one like that. But of all her ship. Yeah,
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: it's like her her Star Wars costume and fan out
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: of her as May from Ages of Shield and chun
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: Ley stuff and like Mulam stuff. And yeah, she's a
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: she's a she's a sweaty sweaty, nerd nice. And the
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: other thing I picked up in this episode, which I
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: don't think I ever realized before, is Rush mentioned something
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: about Young resigning his position as an SG leader. Yeah.
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: I think we spoke about it. Oh really, Well, not
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: that he not that he was, he didn't want to be.
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: Oh so you're suggesting that he was in Stargate command.
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: Yes, the way I read it is prior to him
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: taking the Icaruspace mission. I think he was in charge
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: of an s G team SG nine, SG fifteen, SG
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: whoever eleven.
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: That's why they kept eleven, kept leaving them off and resigned.
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: Are you the wrong man for the job? Connor?
• 43:11
  Speaker 5: I'm sorry to have to be the one to say it,
• 43:13
  Speaker 5: but I think you know it's true, do.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: I You don't believe in the mission.
• 43:19
  Speaker 5: You resigned your position as SG leader because you didn't
• 43:22
  Speaker 5: want to make the hard decisions, the life and death decisions. Well,
• 43:30
  Speaker 5: that makes you a liability. I'm not proud of what
• 43:34
  Speaker 5: I did, but I did it for the benefit of
• 43:37
  Speaker 5: everyone on board.
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: Say that ten times fast. I think that for the
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: benefit of Yeah, I think like such a good villain. Yeah,
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: with what you guys.
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: Were talking about before, it's like they've both done hainous things. Yeah,
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: I think with I was didn't didn't. If we were
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: going to have to to like break it up and
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: I have to choose one that I'm going to side with,
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: it would be because I don't know that he would
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: have done this to anyway.
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: It's like he would have kept killing people.
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: That Whereas I feel like my theory is a serial
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: kill He was so cold and he is okay, yeah.
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: Whereas Rush, I'm like, I feel like Rush would happily
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: narrow this down to just him and someone else on
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: the ship if it meant that he if he thought
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: that they didn't believe in the mission, you know, like
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: he would happily just like do do something evil and
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: something that he wasn't proud of if it meant that
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: they could get to the next thing. Whereas I don't
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: think that Young would have done again what he did
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: in this episode over and over again. Obviously he went
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: into that decision having already disliked Rush extremely.
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean like Rush rushiad almost already like created
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: a list in his mind or maybe he was a
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: book of just like who are the five least useful
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: people on this ship? In which order can I put
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: them in that chair in case it melts their brain.
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: Chloe was up there, She's definitely in that one.
• 45:05
  Speaker 4: But just in terms of that line as SG leader,
• 45:09
  Speaker 4: I think that was a strange, just strange line. Yeah,
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: written there, I'm pretty sure it's referring back to when
• 45:15
  Speaker 4: O'Neill said, we offered you the mission for the nine
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: Chevroun mission for destiny he turned it down.
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: Okay, well that's the only reference I have. Yeah, yeah,
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: because I guess it should have been like SG Team
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: leader or something like that, or SG leader. What does
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: that mean? Because at no point do I think he
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: was ever, you know, given the job of like you know,
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: SG one leader or anything like that. And nor do
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: I think he was ever you know, given that he's
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: only a colonel. He's not going to be in charge
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: of the SGC. He's not going to be taking Landry's job. Yeah,
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: And I guess, yeah, Rush maybe just being a scientist
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: doesn't know the lingo. Yeah, that's true. It could be.
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: And a fresh scientist. He is a foreigner too, that's right.
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: He doesn't dirty foreigners, Yeah, he doesn't. It doesn't know units,
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: freedom units. I think my favorite part of this episode,
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: and I wish they did more of this was when
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: they did, when Rush was given the opportunity to use
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: the or to study the chair the way that he
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: wanted to be in charge of team, and it gave
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: me a lot of Atlantis vibes in that. So I
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: just wanted to play this bit. He's a bit of
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: a good leader, like he gave me. This is it,
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: This is it, were impressive chairs, go tell, you will tell.
• 46:39
  Speaker 7: I suppose so you sit in the chair and it
• 46:42
  Speaker 7: downloads the secrets of the universe.
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: Into your head and then you die, not necessarily you
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: like every Thomas Abraben tried as close to death who's.
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: Trained General and Neil for one, and he survived. We
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: don't have little Great Ali interceptings right this time. No
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: we don't. But this is an earlier model. That's the
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: device possibly of it to build very early in the revolution.
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: My experience, the one point zero version is usually the
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: most buggy. It's also the simplest. I mean, it's really simple.
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: Maybe it just tells you how to fly the ship.
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: I'm sure it's a bit more than that. But your
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: point is well made.
• 47:13
  Speaker 5: There's knowledge of this ship we need if we're to survive,
• 47:16
  Speaker 5: get back to Earth one day, then I'm convinced that
• 47:18
  Speaker 5: this chair is the only way to do that.
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: There's only one way to find out.
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: This is our priority.
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: Well, I feel like that's what Atlantis was a lot
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: of that, And as much as I love Atlantis, I
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: love as She won. If this show had a little
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: bit more of that, not a lot more, just a
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: sprinkle of a couple of scenes like that every episode
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: instead of just pushing the character asks too much, Yeah,
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: then I would have liked it a lot more. Yeah,
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: because I feel, yeah, there were definitely some elements of
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: Atlantis where it was like, Okay, the the exploration room
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: of the week, we found a room with some ancient
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: taking it, and how's that going to be the catalyst
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: to explore the human condition? Whereas, yeah, there's not as
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: much in this it's more about the survival and the
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: interpersonal relationships. But maybe that was something that came down
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: from you know, Cooper or Brad or something like that.
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: We're like, okay, we maybe they don't want to retread
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: that stuff, but it's to me, it's like, well that's
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: an opportunity to do like a take two on Atlantis
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: to be like, well, those stories that we missed out
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: on doing early on because we were trying to, you know,
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: run a show, and we thought it's, yes, it's too
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: late for us to do this episode in season four.
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: That was a season one episode. It's like, well, you
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: can do it. You can do that in in universe.
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I did want to tell Eli to shut
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: up when he's like, in my experience, shut a bit
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: of it in space for like two weeks and shutch
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: a pie hole.
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: An idiot has an Asis computer and uses iMac movie.
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: You can't even do that.
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: Well I could. I've got I've got a I've got
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: a mac book that runs Window parallel. Where did he
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: get that laptop? Though? Was it in his bag when
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: he abandoned.
• 49:05
  Speaker 4: He got taken out with his and he's happy like
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: he had nothing. He was there in his PJ from
• 49:13
  Speaker 4: But who's like, that's what I mean. I guess he
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: just stole someone's laptop.
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: I'm sure they gave him one, like his job was
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: to solve the nine chevron address. I'm sure at some
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: point they're like, he is, he's a laptop for you
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: to use. I'm sure it was like but it was
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: like his government issue. He was there for like three hours.
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: It felt of someone having to beam down after he
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: got beamed up, to beam down to his room take
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: his stuff.
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: But there's just ship everywhere. I need you to scrub
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: my browser history. We'll just beam up the computer. There's
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: way too many tissues for a guy that wasn't sneezing it.
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: Also, there's a pair of jocks just lying kind of
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: half inside out, and they're like a little ship staying
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: on him, Like ship, Yeah, really, what else.
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: Plenty? You sick bastard?
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: Uh shit, I am just talking about how evil rushes
• 50:07
  Speaker 4: I lock him as a character. I hated him the
• 50:08
  Speaker 4: first time I watched it, but seeing it all the
• 50:11
  Speaker 4: second time, you're like, you can kind of see where
• 50:14
  Speaker 4: he's angling. I just locked his so called testimony, assuming you.
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: Heard correctly, No, not at the time, I didn't. I
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: don't remember the exact details of.
• 50:22
  Speaker 8: The conversation, but you do remember speaking with Colonel Young
• 50:26
  Speaker 8: about Sergeant Spencer.
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: Well, the Cola was doing most of the talking. I
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: think it just wanted to let offs team.
• 50:34
  Speaker 8: Do you remember him saying that if things didn't improve,
• 50:37
  Speaker 8: he was going to have to take drastic action.
• 50:40
  Speaker 5: I'm not sure he used those exact ones.
• 50:44
  Speaker 8: Do you agree that Sergeant Spencer was a disruptive force,
• 50:48
  Speaker 8: that his attitude was damaging to morale and was only
• 50:52
  Speaker 8: getting worse. Yes, Then would you say that his removal
• 50:59
  Speaker 8: from the situation has been a net benefit or a detriment.
• 51:05
  Speaker 5: I know what you're trying to do.
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: You want me to suggest that we're better off with
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: out him.
• 51:12
  Speaker 5: Therefore imply that Colonel Young may have drawn the same conclusion,
• 51:16
  Speaker 5: but that was Commander he may I believed they had
• 51:19
  Speaker 5: no choice. Well, well, that would be pure speculation and
• 51:25
  Speaker 5: I'm having none of it.
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: Got to get up earlier in the morning to trick him.
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: That's yeah, Like you said it all out loud without
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: actually saying it, though I hadn't.
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: I hadn't re listened to that since seeing the end
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: of the episode, and it's like, I appreciate the like
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: defending of Young that he's doing there, but also, yeah,
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: speaking on himself, he's giving the detail.
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: Fuck yeah, like that's I'm like, you can asshole like
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: and played for dchs. Yeah yeah, we're all playing Sudoku.
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah.
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: Rato episode three hundred and twenty of I was gonna
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: say Starget universe. No, it's not get into Gates talking
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: about the Starget universe with justice Now.
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: I was leaning back in my chair made you're the
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: pots and pants going out here.
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Worth it once again. I was
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: waiting for law and orderting. I'm gonna to do it
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: in post just to just to appease myself. Goddamn, next week,
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: what's there? What's the episode next week?
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: So we got a little bit base interesting lost in space.
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: That's I mean, like it feels like the most the
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: Final Frontier. These are the voyages of the Starship and
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: de Bras. You know something. It's ongoing mission I got
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: to explore before we leave, to seek out new life,
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: new civilizations where no man has when no one has
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: gone before, no.
• 53:05
  Speaker 4: Man is fine, because that was in the original. I
• 53:09
  Speaker 4: had a direct message. I don't get many direct messages.
• 53:12
  Speaker 4: I don't really check social media that much, but I
• 53:15
  Speaker 4: got a message from Jeremy Orum and he sent me
• 53:21
  Speaker 4: a link or.
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: Like, wasn't that Carter's ancient boyfriend? Or it was Oran?
• 53:26
  Speaker 4: Sorry withdrawn Jeremy Orlan. He sent me through a snippet
• 53:32
  Speaker 4: of our podcast. Big fan of the show. He says,
• 53:35
  Speaker 4: he just sent this through. I'm just going to play
• 53:39
  Speaker 4: it and then we'll talk about it after.
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: This is from Get Into Gate, episode three hundred and thirteen,
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: Redemption into the Check. Yeahusus, that's one mention the cafeteria.
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: I like it when he doesn't notice.
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: Well, every time if I use it, it feels like,
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: you know, we're not using it anymore, and if I don't,
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: I should.
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: So we're always using It'll last till I can last
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: till the end of your universe. Okay, let's do it.
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: I don't think there'll be any Trek references in universe. Whoa, whoa, whoa.
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: I'm no further sorry, Maddie. That's say you next week, buddy.
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: I've got Patreon shoutouts to do it next week. Yeah,
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: Get into Geek, Get into the Gate, Get into Gate,
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: Stargate