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Rachel Friedman, AND THEN WE GREW UP

Maybe early success can be a bad thing. Rachel Freidman debates this in her book and in conversation with Zibby as she reflects on her early achievements in music and then, even, in her first book. But then what? What happens after? And how do you hold onto creativity? Rachel goes back to her “band camp” friends to glean some life lessons.

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A story for the messy middle. Zibby's essay collection Between Chapters is out now!

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