Latest / Whisky Stories Podcast / Dalmore, Darts & Dram Challenges: A Trip to the Lomond and Clyde Festival
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- 0:00Right. I guess you know today.
- 0:00Clap us in. Welcome to the Whiskey Stories
- 0:05podcast. I see your driver speaking.
- 0:08Oh. Quite apologize for the delay
- 0:14I've been. Informed of problems with
- 0:16overhead wires. What have you had so far?
- 0:18Row one row. One, this is actually a 17 year
- 0:21olds 7 cask finish. 7 cask finish. 7 cask finish.
- 0:26Yeah, I'm going to retract on the wankiness of.
- 0:30I think time and place is a big. Part.
- 0:32I think there was people that. Was the time and it was the.
- 0:34Place welcome along the Whiskey Stories podcast with myself,
- 0:37Graeme Colgar and we are not in the athletic armor stickers.
- 0:40We're on a training. Yeah, we're currently in in
- 0:42transit. We're on the way to Helensburg.
- 0:45We're on the way to Ellsborough for the Lomond and Clyde Whiskey
- 0:48Festival. We're making our way through WI
- 0:51Think right now. This is the furthest W we've
- 0:53ever been. Furthest West we've ever
- 0:55recorded until we get to Arden American.
- 0:58This is that with Glenn going was probably the farthest W
- 1:02we've been. Yeah.
- 1:03Last weeks episode where we were, we were taken around the
- 1:06Glen Going distillery by Gordon Dundas and we were treated to
- 1:11malt master experience with Jake Adkuk who talked us through how
- 1:16to blend Glen Going. Yeah, I guess you're still
- 1:19bitter about the results of your your, your blend.
- 1:22Are you OK with that now? I'm OK with it because I was
- 1:24trying, I was trying something different.
- 1:26It didn't work out, but I thought you know, rather than
- 1:29you 2 just went along with what Jake told you today.
- 1:32I just thought, well, you went, yeah, quite right.
- 1:34Have you? Have you, have you, have you
- 1:36tried your bottle? Since I have.
- 1:37And I have to admit, I really liked the bottle when I was
- 1:41blending it in the blending room.
- 1:42I was like, you know what? I'll create something I really
- 1:43like here. Personally, I think this is
- 1:46really good. I've tried it since and to be
- 1:47honest I'm a little bit. Disappointed.
- 1:49Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I went back to mine and I was
- 1:51alright with that. Yeah, yeah, I was a wee bit.
- 1:53No, I wish. But you know, for about a week
- 1:55after I did that, I kept thinking, now what if I'd done
- 1:59it like this? Yeah, what if I'd just done it
- 2:01like that? I basically I want about four
- 2:03more goes on it. Yeah, well, we just need to go
- 2:04back. Well, I do only think I can
- 2:06crack. It well, I'd like time goes, I'd
- 2:09like to try it again, but also I'd like to go back and I'd like
- 2:11to go to Rose Bank and do the Tambu experience because the
- 2:15Tambu experience that Rose Bank. Tam do whiskey as well as like a
- 2:19decolor to me and you talked about Yeah and really fond of.
- 2:23I, I mean, we're still getting the 15% discount at Rosebank.
- 2:27If you want to do one of these tours, WSP 15 if you go in and
- 2:30check, check out. But Chuck, you've, you've not
- 2:33been on the pod for a couple of weeks.
- 2:34How's things? Things are all right.
- 2:37You enjoying the train trip so far?
- 2:38Yeah, so I'm just smiling myself because the squeaking.
- 2:41Yeah, if anyone's listening to this on a train, the audio
- 2:46quality is Scotrail's fault, not ours.
- 2:48Yeah, exactly. I'd love to say, in fact, this
- 2:50could be a sponsorship opportunity.
- 2:52It's like if you brought to you by ScotRail do.
- 2:55You think we can get a discount code for?
- 2:56ScotRail, absolutely. I think we can get sponsorship.
- 2:58If you're travelling anywhere in Scotland to get to a distillery,
- 3:01there's no better way to do it than by train.
- 3:03Imagine the seats embroidered with whiskey stories podcast.
- 3:05I'll be absolutely fantastic. But yeah, I don't think many
- 3:08people have ever recorded podcasts on a train, no.
- 3:11So this is one for the one for the ages.
- 3:13There's also one for the train spotters.
- 3:15And potentially when you listen back to it, we want to know why
- 3:18people don't do it. Yeah, I mean, you'd probably.
- 3:20Say why we're going to Helen's brother.
- 3:21Well, yeah. Off to the Lohmann and Clyde
- 3:23Whiskey Festival, Yeah. Another whiskey festival that
- 3:26we're going to tick off. Yeah, organized by the
- 3:28Collectors Club, We. Have collectors club
- 3:30competitions. Christmas time last year, wasn't
- 3:33it? That's right before we've got
- 3:34what we have with us and you'll see the video of this will be
- 3:38plenty of content that maybe has already gone out, but we are
- 3:41travelling. Sure, sure.
- 3:42Yeah, a big a big cardboard box, but.
- 3:44What's in the box A. Wheel of Fortune a wheel of.
- 3:47Fortune yes, we're doing some big giveaways this afternoon at
- 3:51the at the Loman and Clyde Whiskey Festival and it's I'm
- 3:55looking forward, I'm looking forward to it.
- 3:56But on the subject of that, we did have a a listener question
- 4:00from Jason Hargreaves, who who spent a lot of time who spent a
- 4:04lot of time at our stand when we were working at at Whiskey
- 4:07Fringe. Jason was a good friend with
- 4:09Jason. He is a great guy and a big
- 4:10lover of Glenn going as well actually.
- 4:12So he's he's he's asked a question.
- 4:15I just bought tickets for Fife and in the festivals next
- 4:18February, March. Yeah.
- 4:19Got 2 questions for you Lanyards wanky or useful right.
- 4:25What are we going with, Chuck? I mean, I think they are useful,
- 4:29but I also think they're wanky, right?
- 4:31OK, I mean I know it's one or the other, but I don't use them
- 4:35personally. No.
- 4:36I probably should because you both saw me at Whiskey French
- 4:39and I probably needed them both hands.
- 4:41I think we needed a lanyard for you because you were supposed to
- 4:45film the content and when I I was cursing you when eventually
- 4:50sobered up. Is that right?
- 4:51I'm going to upload all the footage that that you were
- 4:55supposed to be getting at Whiskey fridge.
- 4:58Is this it? Is this all we've got?
- 5:02Chuck was there for four, 8 hours.
- 5:05We're sweating. We were doing all the work, we
- 5:10were speaking to everybody, We were flogging stuff.
- 5:13You were having a good old trolley.
- 5:15You didn't even take the camera with you.
- 5:16I didn't think about it. Oh, I can't get it.
- 5:19Was you just zooming in and out of our faces for 10 minutes?
- 5:24Yeah, I mean, I've bumped into like loads of people used to
- 5:26work in hospitality and I hadn't seen them in like 2 years.
- 5:31So I got distracted, I had far too much to drink.
- 5:35I'm embarrassed myself so frankly after that.
- 5:37No, you were fine. You were fine, but.
- 5:39I mean, but it was good. I did really milk the free
- 5:44ticket and didn't help it out. So hopefully right to buy that.
- 5:47This one, but that merges in with the the brand values of
- 5:51whiskey stories both gives you all this is milking free
- 5:54tickets. It's another because I mean look
- 5:57when it comes to lanyards. You would back to the original
- 6:00point, I mean my tuppence were for whatever it's worth.
- 6:02I would say useful but not necessary and probably wanky
- 6:08outside of a whiskey festival. But in the confine, I mean,
- 6:13yeah, anyway, if. I showed up to a restaurant.
- 6:16I'm wearing a whiskey lanyard. They won't let me in.
- 6:18Oh no, Actually, I bet somebody's done it for the next
- 6:21for the best. We get lanyards today, which I'm
- 6:24assuming we will hope we will if we do get lanyards today, right?
- 6:27We're all turning up at Diggers for the next recording with our
- 6:31lanyards. And every time we get a
- 6:33Glencairn glass, we're sticking it in there and just walking
- 6:35around Diggers proudly with our land, our drama.
- 6:39I would say, right. First of all, I put this in the
- 6:41newsletter when when Jason asked this, and I would say I think
- 6:46the general consensus, I put it into the whiskey storage group
- 6:49chat as well to just to get your opinions in case we weren't be
- 6:53able to put it down. Ross came straight off the bat
- 6:57with, let me just double check what he said here, but it was on
- 7:03the lines of, yeah, so lanyards are wanky for me is what Ross
- 7:06said. But I'd say like the the person
- 7:09who invented the Glencairn lanyard, it's a bit of a, it's a
- 7:13good bit of engineering there. I think I think the intention is
- 7:16nice. Like, I mean, I think when I was
- 7:19in in Chichibu at Chichibu Fest, that was a big, like that was a
- 7:24big area festival. Yeah.
- 7:25There was like 3 buildings, like 2 tents and I had a whiskey
- 7:29lanyard thing. I used it, yeah, because it was
- 7:31a long day and I needed to. Get your arms were getting tired
- 7:34I was getting tired I. Was looking at bottles, taking
- 7:37pictures of bottles. Yeah, that was.
- 7:39You need your hands. Free.
- 7:39Well, absolutely, and we'll be walking around today with
- 7:42microphones. For the whiskey podcaster, it's.
- 7:43Very awful. Yeah, I'd also agree.
- 7:45I mean it's but the argument is also mute because if I'm doing
- 7:48all that stuff I am being a whiskey wanker.
- 7:50Yeah, 100%. I mean, embrace the I mean,
- 7:52we've embraced the wanky tasting notes, so embrace the wankiness
- 7:55of wanky, wanky lanyard. Yeah, but.
- 7:57The word wanky too. Much but but, but the, what I
- 8:01would say is I'm terrible for it is when I get speaking to people
- 8:03is I'll put my glass down and, and suddenly then and keep
- 8:07getting roofied and that well, no, not that no, I just lose my
- 8:13glass. What I'll do is I'll put that
- 8:16down, I'll walk away. And I think you've also got to
- 8:18remember is that -10 camera, please check.
- 8:21You've got to remember that there'll be there'll be a good
- 8:23few 100 people at these whiskey tastings.
- 8:25And if everyone, if even half of those people are as comes in
- 8:28forgetful as me, then basically what's going to happen is people
- 8:31are going to people are going to put their glasses down, forget
- 8:33about people are going to lift other people's class, etcetera,
- 8:35etcetera, etcetera. But I would say, yeah, I think,
- 8:39I think the general consensus of the Whiskey Stories podcast is
- 8:41that lanyards are useful, but at the same time wanky.
- 8:44However, I am in agreement. I I do think that what we should
- 8:48do is, and I would love to see if anyone who does have a
- 8:53whiskey festival or lanyard or a Glencairn, please please please
- 8:57please please please, please please wear it to your local
- 9:02pub. Wear it in public.
- 9:04Wear it out, Wear it out. Go for a run.
- 9:05Yeah, go. For a run.
- 9:09By Glen Kearn Bag it off your chest and you're not, but I
- 9:12don't. Retain any like.
- 9:13That well, what we're going to do is we're going to wear our
- 9:16lanyard 2 diggers one night right And as soon as we order
- 9:19our DRAM, thank you very much and we're going to clip them in
- 9:22our lanyard and just walk about the boozer with the most.
- 9:24Of the ones like the clip on them as well, yeah.
- 9:27What about? What about if it was instead of
- 9:32a lanyard? If it was a Glencairn tool belt?
- 9:34Right, See. See.
- 9:36Just get a belt. It's like, But that's what.
- 9:37My primary school, you have to reach down.
- 9:39No, but you can have like 4 or five different glencairns in
- 9:42your tool belt and you can have them around.
- 9:43And you can. There's one Mr. Judged Doorway
- 9:46and you're. You're the doctors.
- 9:48Man. Like Fair Player or I tell you
- 9:52what, if anyone's listening and they're organizing whiskey
- 9:54festivals, we've got other whiskey festivals coming up
- 9:56towards the end of the year, but also in the new year, as as
- 9:59Jason was saying in the festival and also Fife Festival.
- 10:02Yeah, we are now. Approaching Del Muir there.
- 10:04We go. We're.
- 10:05Good. Please mind the gap when
- 10:06alighting from this. Train, we don't need to get that
- 10:08right, Del. Muir Now there we are.
- 10:09We don't. Again if anyone is listening to
- 10:11this on a train going shit I've missed my stop.
- 10:15But what I'd say is what about? What about a whiskey holster?
- 10:21All right. Yeah.
- 10:23That'd be quite. All right.
- 10:24Because you could do like I'm thinking about like when you
- 10:27watch the like the FBI agents and they've got the holsters on
- 10:30the inside, they're wearing the holsters on the inside, their
- 10:32jackets. You suggesting you go to you go
- 10:34to a whiskey festival with fake arms.
- 10:36But that's correct. But that's so that's that's
- 10:39number one, you could. Do the reinvention of the the
- 10:41Straw hat, Yeah. And then have.
- 10:44Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 10:45No, that's go around and get your that was that was question
- 10:49number one from Jason. This is Billy Connolly.
- 10:53This train is for. Helens for.
- 10:56Essential and the question number 2 is Dunbarton E Thank
- 11:00you. As I say, ScotRail partners of
- 11:02the our official travel partner of the podcast, ScotRail, always
- 11:05making sure you know where we are, exactly where we are and
- 11:07where you're going. Question #2 from Jason here.
- 11:09What are your tactics? Do you plan or freestyle once
- 11:13you get there? At Whiskey Fringe there were
- 11:15some stands I never got to because they just surfed around
- 11:17the stands that looked interesting.
- 11:19To be honest. Spent arguably too long at Glenn
- 11:21Moore stand. Maybe it was the chat or the
- 11:24excellent liquid. Looking at you, 17 year old
- 11:26Poultney. So I would say Jason, it was
- 11:28probably a mix of both and we probably chat, chat.
- 11:30The chat was, I mean I would say.
- 11:32Excellent cameraman work at. That exactly what I would say, I
- 11:35guess, is that, you know, at Whiskey Fringe they dish out
- 11:37awards for the drums and the poultney. 17 won the award, but
- 11:40they don't. Like never mind the rest.
- 11:42We've got the rest. Yeah, but they don't do awards
- 11:44for the chat. And I would say that if there
- 11:46was, I think it was we were given out some award-winning
- 11:49whiskey chat that day as well, I'd say.
- 11:51I mean, I mean, I would, yeah. I I don't ever have it.
- 11:54I've never had a strategy when we've gone to Whiskey Fest, No,
- 11:57because we've we've kind of always done it on the fly a wee.
- 12:00Bit but we've met people. Who have but we've yeah we've
- 12:02met people I mean we we for example, I think Cam big Cam
- 12:07friend of the show Cam you and he said about going three
- 12:12different days and doing right today I'm going to do like in
- 12:15days tomorrow and if. You're going to Whiskey Fringe
- 12:17for three days. You have to have a plan.
- 12:18Well, this is really. Yeah, you can't not but I mean
- 12:21or maybe. Fraser said it.
- 12:22No, you're, if you're going lots of people he's talked about, you
- 12:26know, the order of which you know, I'll try lots of bourbon
- 12:29drams and then I'll try Sherry drams and then I'll.
- 12:31Go well Ross Ross put it out on the on the on the again on the
- 12:35group chat. My festival tactics grain
- 12:37bourbon, non peated, other casks non peated, single casts and
- 12:41then peated. So that's his sort of lineup.
- 12:43That's detailed. Yeah.
- 12:46But then there's other than that's.
- 12:47A tactic that requires you to kind of go around the room
- 12:51several times, which you have to you have.
- 12:52Which you have. To you also remember that I know
- 12:54you're like Graham in the sense you could go to 1 stall and
- 12:57probably spend 20 minutes there and then, oh, you're looking at
- 13:00your watch and thinking, you know, and, and we've probably
- 13:03done that as well at some whiskey festivals where we've
- 13:05not got around everybody just because of the amount, you know,
- 13:08lack of time. With whiskey fringe though, it's
- 13:11unique in the sense it's over 3. I'm not talking.
- 13:13Specifically, but the other thing that's unique about
- 13:16whiskey fringe, which is which is different to like for today
- 13:19and Fife Whiskey festival and others is they have like they
- 13:22have slots. So it's like, oh.
- 13:28I'd like to apologise for the delay I'm leaving down here.
- 13:31I've been informed of problems with overhead wires between down
- 13:35here and compatic. Also been informed that I will
- 13:40get an update as at this point I can't move until I've been
- 13:44updated whether it's safe to continue.
- 13:46So to stay there with me at the moment and I'll keep you updated
- 13:51in a couple of minutes. Once I've been informed what's
- 13:53happening with this, I can apologise.
- 13:59Thank you. Well, thank you very much.
- 14:01Well, I think without further ado, I think all we can do is
- 14:04podcast. Well, we've just been informed
- 14:06that there's some problems with overhead cables in the line.
- 14:08We're delayed. A big shout.
- 14:11Sponsors and our future Scott Our future sponsor Helensburg
- 14:16Cabs. Exactly.
- 14:18Here comes the ticket lady, actually.
- 14:19Yeah, right. 2 seconds special duty.
- 14:27So we're delayed at the moment. I wish we'd brought some drams
- 14:30with us because but but it's a dry train going back to yeah.
- 14:35So I think when you do have the the different slots, because
- 14:39today's there's two, there's the, there's the early slot and
- 14:41then there's the afternoon, the later afternoon slot.
- 14:43Yeah. So actually you're condensing
- 14:45when you look at how many exhibitors and bear in mind if
- 14:48every exhibitor has an average 4 bottles per table and you've got
- 14:51something like 4550 exhibitors, there's just too much whiskey to
- 14:55get through. And especially if you're only
- 14:56going to be there for there's only a three hour, a three hour
- 14:58session as such. So The thing is what I.
- 15:01Would say actually though, is it was quite interesting and again,
- 15:04this is this is a niche audience for this is is when we've
- 15:08exhibited at festival yes. So the Edinburgh Whiskey
- 15:10Festival 5W festival half time is great fun.
- 15:14And actually it's a time where people who have been exhibited
- 15:17and speaking to the general public have a chance to talk and
- 15:20network themselves. And I don't know, I think
- 15:23usually get 45 minutes to an hour.
- 15:25Yeah, of just and drams do get bored in that time as well.
- 15:28But you know, you've also got to remember, like there's a lot of
- 15:30people, this is their work, you know, like so we're going to see
- 15:34some familiar faces. But whilst we're there going, we
- 15:36got the train through, we didn't have to bring just bear in mind,
- 15:39majority of people that are going to these things, they'll
- 15:41be driving if they're working because you've got to take,
- 15:43you've got to take two or three cases of, of liquid with you've
- 15:46got to take all your, all your paraphernalia that you'll be
- 15:50setting up with all your marketing materials and things
- 15:52like that. We just have to get lanyards,
- 15:54but we just have to turn up with our microphones and a camera and
- 15:56we're, and our wheel and our wheel of fortune.
- 15:58Yeah. But I, I, I, I, I like the idea
- 16:01of that. And I think when we speak, you
- 16:02mentioned a couple of names earlier on there and I guess and
- 16:04it's like people that work in the industry now, I think when
- 16:07you do speak to someone like Ross, he'll be whiskey fringe in
- 16:11particular. He'll be given free tickets to
- 16:13go as on trade. Sure.
- 16:14So it's like, right, first of all, Ross has actually got a job
- 16:17to do. Yeah, there, which is try liquid
- 16:20that he maybe might be interested in bringing into the
- 16:22bar. So he's got to that's another
- 16:24tactic there. But then you always hear people
- 16:26saying maybe I think it is the Sunday.
- 16:28A lot of people say it's the people that are in the trade
- 16:30that actually go, I'm coming here, but I'm clocking on.
- 16:32I'm not on the clock. Make some business.
- 16:34So they've got, they've done the well, they've maybe done the
- 16:36business part on the Friday. I came on Friday, I checked all
- 16:39the stuff. So they have to have a clear
- 16:40goal. I think we should probably set
- 16:43ourselves, are we challenged, not challenged today, but like
- 16:47have a plan, try and have a plan, Yeah.
- 16:50And then see how well we execute the plan.
- 16:52Because I would say that it must be really tricky if you go up
- 16:55to, let's just say you go up to a stand.
- 17:01I don't know who, who's, who's exhibiting.
- 17:02Pick us an I'll pick a Pick an exhibitor we know pick.
- 17:05Somebody, an exhibitor we know well, I'll tell you.
- 17:08One we do know is Hunter Lane. Right, so we got Hunter Lane.
- 17:12Hunter Lane on slash Arden Hope, right?
- 17:15So someone we know? Right.
- 17:16So Paul Main is going to be there, right?
- 17:18So what we say is we say, right, I'm not really wanting to try
- 17:21any of the Hunter Lane stuff, but I want to see what Arden the
- 17:24hole they've got on the table, right.
- 17:26But then the problem is you go and you see right, there's a
- 17:29maybe they have two Arden holes. I don't know how many we're
- 17:30going to have. So right, I'll need to try both
- 17:32of them so I can see what they are, get the information and
- 17:34that's fine. So we've tried that.
- 17:35I know. But then they might have
- 17:37something really nice from ever ND on and you go, I can't
- 17:44because that that obscures my strategy.
- 17:46So I can't touch that. Yeah.
- 17:48And then it's like, do we? That's where it becomes really,
- 17:51really tricky. So I think what we should
- 17:52probably do between the three of us now, bear in mind we're going
- 17:55to be doing stuff today because we have the Wheel of Fortune.
- 17:58We've got dart, a dartboard, right?
- 18:00There's a dartboard being there for us today as well.
- 18:04I don't know how well drums and darts goes, but it could be a
- 18:07feature that could this. TuneIn for Part 2.
- 18:09But we're at the hospital. I just got Dart sticking out his
- 18:13head. Yeah, yeah.
- 18:14Drums and Dart talk well. And I'm apologizing again for my
- 18:17I'm. So sorry, I guess.
- 18:19I'm so sorry. I should.
- 18:20Have filmed and thrown darts and had a DRAM on my land.
- 18:23Yard because you have a land yard, so you can play.
- 18:25You can play darts. Yeah, exactly.
- 18:27Well, I should have a straw, yeah.
- 18:30If we ever get there, because facts are travel partners,
- 18:33ScotRail, we are we. Are delayed.
- 18:35Yeah. But I think this is probably a
- 18:36Network Rail issue who aren't our part travel partners, no?
- 18:39You can slag them off, yeah. I said, but I would say, let's,
- 18:44let's try and think about like. So I guess you, I'm going to get
- 18:47you to list. Do you want me to list?
- 18:49Do you want me to just very quickly go through?
- 18:50Well, as I can go through it, go through it, I'll start a timer.
- 18:54Right. OK.
- 18:54So I mean, we've got Borders Distillery, we've got Glenrothes
- 18:58distillery, we've got Spay Distillery, we've got Cabin
- 19:01Heads, Dalmore, Douglas Lane, Annandale, Feb, Rarefine,
- 19:06Glenmore. Yeah, we've got Bricklady,
- 19:09Murray, McDavid, Gordon, Macphail, Ochentosh and Woven
- 19:12North Star Spirits. We've got Glenn Murray, We do
- 19:16Duncan Taylor, We've got Loch Loman, Glenn Scotia, We've got
- 19:19Stravaek Tricara, We've got Compass Box, we've got Glencadam
- 19:23Tom and Towel. We've got Necropolis Spirits,
- 19:26we've got Rosin Distilleries, Nikas Chichibu, Uncharted
- 19:32Whiskey, Alexia Spirits, Lochley Clyde Side, the distillery and
- 19:39been having Deanston Tormore. Right, right.
- 19:42Because I've got I've got Tobermory.
- 19:43So I've got a wee plan here, right, because we are travelling
- 19:46further W there's actually a few things, there's a few names on
- 19:50that sheet that we haven't really spoken about much
- 19:53already. So I think that's where we
- 19:55start. I think we look at going let's
- 19:57target. Who have we not?
- 19:58Spoke well, for example. Right.
- 19:59Well, Necropolis Spirits actually did message me quite a
- 20:03while ago when they were sort of setting up and.
- 20:05They're not. Familiar with them?
- 20:06I'm not, it's not from, not not a name I'm familiar with, but
- 20:09it'd be interesting to speak to them because I know they've
- 20:11they've spoken to us before. Glenn Scotia, Loch Lomond, I'm
- 20:13quite keen to have a wee chat with them.
- 20:15I'd really like to go to compass box.
- 20:16Compass box, Yeah. I meant to go to see them and
- 20:19whiskey French but got distracted along the way.
- 20:21But then I massive one of them for a really long time.
- 20:23Yeah, I would be interested in speaking to them as well because
- 20:25I've been having there as well. Been having, Yeah, let's do a
- 20:28bit of having. Yeah.
- 20:30And actually might go featuring the spelling challenge.
- 20:32Yes, I like it. Well, yeah.
- 20:33I'd quite like to go to Glenn Murray just to.
- 20:36See Glenn Murray. Glenn Murray.
- 20:38Good. Murray, Glenn Murray.
- 20:41Is that on your way to Royal Walk?
- 20:44All right. I was also so confident as well
- 20:48I. Was like.
- 20:49Come on, Angus. It's better, His Royal Braca I.
- 20:54Saw a. Master Draw Braca.
- 20:59So Glenn Murray. Glenn Murray.
- 21:00Glenn Murray. Sorry, it's early man.
- 21:02Let. Me be sorry we're stuck in a
- 21:05trade. Cabin fever.
- 21:07Already. Come on.
- 21:07Right. Hi, Glenn Murray.
- 21:09Yeah, yeah, yeah. He did the Glenn Murray, right?
- 21:11And then I, I, but I, I might not if it's just like the core
- 21:15range stuff that I'm probably not going to be really pumped
- 21:18up. I think they've got a few if I I
- 21:20might be wrong here, but I think they have a pitted tequila cask.
- 21:25I'll be honest with you, that'll be right at the very end.
- 21:27Of the day, yeah, yeah. Because I think I, well, bear in
- 21:30mind I might be wrong, but I think I might have heard that
- 21:35there's a pitted tequila cask going on.
- 21:37They might have. I thought they've they've ever
- 21:39got something like that on on their on its way.
- 21:43Yes. I think also practicing
- 21:46responsible, responsible darts throwing and whiskey festivaling
- 21:50is important as well, because not just in the sense that like
- 21:53it's a very easy tactic to just fill your boots is the sort of
- 21:57tactic. But at the same time what I have
- 22:00found is. Clever a wee bit.
- 22:01Well, it becomes frustrating because if you drink a lot of
- 22:05whiskey in such a short period of time, the whiskey just all
- 22:08starts to taste like whiskey. It does a little bit.
- 22:10And the danger that you have, particularly in a situation
- 22:13where we're very fortunate, is like that different whiskey
- 22:17festivals we've been to is you get a chance to drink something
- 22:21maybe a little bit special towards the end of the night or
- 22:24the end of the afternoon. And if you're getting handed
- 22:26something that's very special, you go, this is like a taste of
- 22:30a DRAM after a lot of other drams, There's a good chance
- 22:33that you're not going to be able to appreciate that as well.
- 22:36Yeah. Yeah.
- 22:36So I think what we should do is create a little list, but we
- 22:39also I should say we. Should reduce everything down to
- 22:4220% as. Jake, I could say.
- 22:45That just smells. But we are doing so we are.
- 22:50So the plan is we are doing a big giveaway with the
- 22:55collector's club competitions today.
- 22:57And so the plan is that in my head, this is how it's going to
- 23:00work, because bear in mind, we haven't worked.
- 23:02If we get there, thanks to our travel partners, Scornell, we'll
- 23:06be the the plan is that somebody has to throw a dart at a dart
- 23:10board and whatever they hit that will tell them the potential
- 23:14prize that they could be winning.
- 23:16OK. And there's some good prizes.
- 23:18I haven't got it fully confirmed, but there's lots of
- 23:19bottles. There's maybe some discounts for
- 23:21the Royal Mail whiskies. There's there's even more
- 23:24bottles. So there's a lot of prizes to be
- 23:26given away right now. Once they've thrown the dart at
- 23:29a dart board, they'll find out what potential prize they're
- 23:31going to get. Then what they have to do is
- 23:34spin the whiskey stories, Wheel of Fortune to work out what they
- 23:39have to do as a challenge to to win that prize.
- 23:44Now, some of the challenges that we've got lined up so far, and
- 23:48as ever, we're very organized in the sense that we haven't got
- 23:51anything written down as such yet, but it'll be a 32nd, a 32nd
- 23:55time frame, and in 30 seconds they'll have to do something.
- 23:58For example, 5 distilleries that they have to spell correctly and
- 24:04those distilleries will be pulled out of a hat and it could
- 24:06feature anything from Ardbeg Angus.
- 24:10How do you spell Ardbeg A? RDEB e.g.
- 24:12Brilliant to Glen Geary. All right, I'm.
- 24:18Not doing that. Is it GAIROCH?
- 24:23Garrick. Oh no.
- 24:26It's it's Glen Garrick. This is how you spell it.
- 24:30Thank God Hey apologize for the day.
- 24:36That's delays been due to. Problems with overhead wires on
- 24:37front. Of this service.
- 24:42Thank you. You know what's the stories are
- 24:45back? Well, we're literally back on
- 24:46track. Live update for you there.
- 24:48So don't panic everyone who's listening at home.
- 24:50We we, I think we do make it to the Roman and Clyde.
- 24:56But yeah, so something like that, or here's one for you.
- 24:58Right, Right. I'm going to get the timer on.
- 25:01Put you under real pressure here.
- 25:02Right. Yeah, this is my nightmare.
- 25:04A spelling. Test.
- 25:05It's not spelling. This is a different.
- 25:07One, right, two dislikes. Like I said, I remember we're
- 25:09talking about a spelling test. Right, 30 seconds go.
- 25:11I want you to have 5 distilleries that begin with the
- 25:14letter LL. Leg of Room the Frog.
- 25:18Ladyburn, Legic. Nope, it's not distillery.
- 25:24It was a distillery from 1972. If you're like close to still 10
- 25:31seconds. I can think of 1. 5 seconds,
- 25:34Chuck. Little melon.
- 25:35OK, you would win a prize. You would win a prize.
- 25:40I have 7 close distillery. I don't know if we will put
- 25:43close to still, I don't know. I have to clarify that I can't.
- 25:47Like should have done like what they come to you.
- 25:49Yeah, exactly. I think there's seven.
- 25:52I think you, I think if I'm right in the small amount of
- 25:57workings I've done on this, yeah, if I can find the fag
- 25:59packet that I wrote this on the back of, I'd be able to tell
- 26:02you. I think there's seven current
- 26:04distilleries, OK, that Lambert Distillery, because that's what
- 26:09you're looking at. So we'll do something like that.
- 26:11They'll be baby play a little game of player distilleries
- 26:15right higher or lowers all that kind of stuff.
- 26:17And that's what we are probably going to have to start planning
- 26:21at the moment before before we get there, but we are.
- 26:23Kind of forgot about that, yeah. Well, we've recorded, we've
- 26:26recorded 20 odd minutes of OK, the first part of this podcast,
- 26:30yeah. The sober part, yeah.
- 26:32The silver sensible part before. Before we record the final, but
- 26:36after Chuck's had his tequila. Tequila.
- 26:38Glen Murray, Yeah. But there's Jeopardy.
- 26:42This podcast has ever it's got background noise.
- 26:44It's got members of the public. It's also got jeopardy.
- 26:47Will we, will we make it? Will we make it?
- 26:50The Lower and Clyde Whiskey Festival?
- 26:51That's the first. Part Will we make it back?
- 26:53Well, fingers crossed, will we? Will we be the same afterwards?
- 26:57Well, will we all be wearing lanyards or the tree in the way?
- 27:00Well, that's the key, isn't it? Right.
- 27:03I think we've probably, I think we'll probably need to actually
- 27:07start organizing. Yeah.
- 27:08Something. Well, no further ado, Correct.
- 27:10And see how well we've organized.
- 27:12Tune in. TuneIn to the an exit.
- 27:14Solomon. Will, will the lads make it to
- 27:17Helensburgh? Will they have planned a decent
- 27:19challenge? Find out.
- 27:24If only we had lanyards and this.
- 27:28You know what to do. Clap us in.
- 27:32Welcome all to the Whiskey Stories podcast at Alumni and
- 27:35Glade Whiskey Festival. Hey guys, if you're watching
- 27:39this now, you will know we made it.
- 27:41We did. We made it.
- 27:42We made it just in time. Yep.
- 27:44Train wasn't too late it. Wasn't too bad.
- 27:46It's now that we're about an hour into the festival now.
- 27:50It's been we've got our setup here, we've got dart boards
- 27:53behind us, we're ready and everything like that.
- 27:55We're getting ready to get our first competition person to come
- 28:01and take part in our in our giveaway.
- 28:03See we've practiced. Angus, how are you feeling about
- 28:06it? I'm feeling.
- 28:07Very, very good. I'm looking forward to seeing
- 28:09some of the attempts. Yeah, I'm looking forward to the
- 28:12challenges. I'm looking forward to seeing
- 28:13people try and crack my anagrams.
- 28:15Yeah. So yeah, the Angus Grahams.
- 28:18The Angus Grahams Angus anagram. Breaking news Breaking news on
- 28:24the Whiskey Stories podcast at the Lowman and Clyde Whiskey
- 28:26Festival is there are no lanyards.
- 28:30Yeah, 1 yard are not given out. However, there are people who
- 28:34have brought their own. As if I just walked past.
- 28:36With one up. The big question we have to ask
- 28:38now is 1 yard wanky or not wanky, Bringing your own lanyard
- 28:44to to your whiskey festival, I think that's well prepared.
- 28:47I'm not going to call anyone. I'm not going.
- 28:49To seize the. Professional if there is.
- 28:50Exactly, because at the moment, as we're standing here, it's
- 28:53really, really difficult to to juggle a microphone.
- 28:57Well, this is the camera microphone and DRAM.
- 28:59Yeah. So we've got our trucks actually
- 29:01been working really hard. Actually, we we, we've made a
- 29:04really bad decision by not bringing our own line yard.
- 29:06We're the we're the wanking guys without the line.
- 29:08Yeah, this is. The place where it is acceptable
- 29:11being in diggers with one on, maybe not.
- 29:12No, we're still going to do that.
- 29:14We we still have to find blinking lions.
- 29:16In hand at the same time. Yeah, no drams, just two drams
- 29:19in. Hand.
- 29:19Sorry, sorry. And walking about with our
- 29:22lanyards as well. So we've got three or what, 3
- 29:24drams, right hand, left hand, LAN yard.
- 29:27There's what we got right. So we all have a DRAM.
- 29:30So what are we dramming, Graham? Good question, but I have a
- 29:34Linkwood 9 year old from Northstar.
- 29:40I'll be honest with you, the gentleman I asked for the DRAM,
- 29:44he said what would you like? I said I'm something easy going.
- 29:47It's my first drama day, soft, easygoing.
- 29:49It went brilliant. I'll give you this, it's a bit
- 29:51it's over 50%. I couldn't actually hear a lot
- 29:54of what I said about it, but it's a nice easy going.
- 29:57I must admit, Angus, you and I, we were at a tasting last night.
- 30:00We were and I, my head was a slightly fuzzier than I
- 30:03anticipated it being this morning.
- 30:04So this being my first Ram of the day, I'm quite happy with
- 30:07that. It's hit the exactly what I
- 30:09needed it to hit. Well, that leads.
- 30:11Me on nicely Graham because we were tasting last night.
- 30:13One of the one of the drams of the evening was a Glenn lossie.
- 30:16Yes, finishing a kind of red wine break.
- 30:19So I I my first drama the day was a Glenn lossie again from
- 30:22Northstar. I can't remember the age of it,
- 30:25but it was definitely all single cast bourbon refill bourbon.
- 30:30Very, very nice. Nice to try it in that context
- 30:32and compare it to what I can remember from last night.
- 30:35So. Absolutely, Chuck, what have you
- 30:36got? I've got a Clyde, Clyde site.
- 30:39I just went something very light.
- 30:41Yeah, lower ABV. I'm on my best behavior after
- 30:44the last time we were at a whiskey festival and it's like
- 30:4795% is what the guy asked me. White, white, something light,
- 30:51fresh. So this is 95% bourbon, 5%
- 30:54Sherry and takes all the boxes. Man, So I think what we've
- 30:56actually done is in the in the time that we've been recording
- 31:00on the train to now where we said we're going to try and come
- 31:03up with a, a structure with a plan, right?
- 31:07What actually has happened is our structure and plan has been
- 31:10get something nice, easy and light to get started.
- 31:12So there you go. We are.
- 31:13We actually have stuck to that and also we're practicing
- 31:15responsible festivaling by this is we're now we're in this is
- 31:19our first time finest. Of the lanyards, we are being
- 31:21responsible. Yeah, we're going to look
- 31:23around. There's a few familiar faces.
- 31:24These are soonest working on the Gordon Macphail.
- 31:26In fact, this few. Friends of the Show.
- 31:29As this episode's going out tomorrow night, Fraser Soonest
- 31:32will be in the hot seat for our Indie Bottler Spotlight.
- 31:37Digger sold out Indie Bottler Spotlight, I should say.
- 31:40So if you're listening to this code, I wonder if I can get
- 31:42along to that. I'm afraid you can't.
- 31:44It's sold out, but it's Gordon Macphail.
- 31:46Phone phone us up last minute to see if there's any
- 31:48cancellations. Yeah, I, I did say to Fraser, we
- 31:51do have it on good authority that there is a chance that the
- 31:55generations 85 year old will be on the line up.
- 31:59I don't know how big that chance that is.
- 32:00I don't think it will be there. But as I'm saying, there's
- 32:03always, it could be, it could be there until, until we actually
- 32:06have 100% confirmation that won't be there.
- 32:07We'll we'll carry that on. However, he did show on his
- 32:12Instagram Story last week a lovely sample bottle, but he
- 32:18blanked out outside the Gordon Macphail warehouse in Elgin.
- 32:23And it was one of those. The first thing I make sure,
- 32:25obviously duty paid is the only thing you can see on the label
- 32:29when you see that kind of white label duty paid.
- 32:32And it's that we've always said, I guess those are the kind of
- 32:34bottles that, as Ross would say if it was here, gets their tails
- 32:37wagon. Wowsers, right?
- 32:41So we've got a drum, we've got some microphones we've got.
- 32:44We've got a dartboard. We've.
- 32:45Got a dartboard behind us. We've got a wheel of fortune.
- 32:48We've got a wheel of fortune over here.
- 32:49We've got some prizes that we could be given away.
- 32:51Very good prizes. So, yeah, we've, we're we're
- 32:54almost, we're almost all set to go.
- 32:58The festival is in full swing. Shall we shall we go for a quick
- 33:03wonder? Ah, OK.
- 33:06Have you been drowning today, chaps?
- 33:07Yes, I have. What have you had so far?
- 33:11Row one, row one. Is that the way we've been
- 33:14asking a lot of people? Do you come to a whiskey
- 33:18festival with a strategy now? Just coming to find out, New
- 33:23whiskeys, ones I like, ones I'm going to buy.
- 33:26Brilliant. And is there anything that's
- 33:28caught your eye in row one so far?
- 33:30So far, no, no. What's your name?
- 33:32Sorry. I'm Stuart Kelly.
- 33:33Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you.
- 33:34Sure. Thanks for coming along.
- 33:35Now, are you are you up for a drum challenge?
- 33:38Yeah. Why not?
- 33:38Excellent. Brilliant.
- 33:40Superb. Now what we're going to get you
- 33:41to do here? You get 1 dart here.
- 33:46No, you throw. He's getting the jacket off for
- 33:50this. Chucky, this is serious
- 33:51business. We got the dart.
- 33:53We got it right. No, no practice.
- 33:56You can stand on the ochre here. Now what you've got to do is if
- 33:58you hit one to five, you'll get a chance to win a pin badge 5 to
- 34:0414. You get a chance to win a bit of
- 34:08Happen 12, Deanston 12 or a Dalmore 12:15 to 20.
- 34:14You get a chance to win your Dalmore 15, Glen Murray 15 in
- 34:18the Glen Scotia. If you hit a treble or a double.
- 34:22You get a chance to win a 25 LB Royal Mile gift voucher.
- 34:26But you have to throw the dart at a dart board.
- 34:29Then once you establish what you could win, you've got to spin
- 34:31the Wheel of fortune to work out the challenge that you've got to
- 34:33do to walk away with your prize. And if I don't hit the board,
- 34:37you break a window, right? Let's see what we've got here.
- 34:42Up we go then. Oh, he's looking serious here.
- 34:46We've got a 19, right? So you're in with a chance of
- 34:49winning a Dalmore 15. All right, Glenn Murray, 15.
- 34:52Now what I need you to do if you come over here now, spin the
- 34:56wheel of fortune. OK, Spin.
- 34:58Not looking. Whatever you like.
- 35:00Spin it. Spin it.
- 35:00That's what we're going. Right?
- 35:01We're going. Here we go.
- 35:03What have you got to do to have a chance to win a Dalmore 15 or
- 35:05Glenn Scotia 15? You've got to try the anagram
- 35:10challenge. No.
- 35:12Right. So we've got the anagram
- 35:14challenge. Angus has the anagrams there.
- 35:16You've got 30 seconds. OK to.
- 35:18I'm not going to get there. You've got the anagram
- 35:20challenge. I'm going to start the chat.
- 35:23I'm going to start a timer. You've got 30 seconds, Angus.
- 35:26Get one of the anagrams ready. Got.
- 35:27One of the anagrams ready, so the first.
- 35:29Anagram right 321 This is a. Distillery in.
- 35:32Scotland first anagram up there. Lentil veg.
- 35:36Lentil veg is the lentil veg. A distillery in Scotland. 20
- 35:44seconds to go. I'm not going to get that.
- 35:50He's only going to regard first one the first person.
- 35:54Congratulations. Everyone's a woman.
- 35:57Do you know that? My heart was going like that.
- 36:00You did really well there. Absolutely fantastic.
- 36:01How are you feeling? Super.
- 36:03And the good news about that is you get to share that with us.
- 36:07That's absolutely fantastic. Well done.
- 36:09Congratulations. Well done.
- 36:11There you go. Everyone's a winner.
- 36:13Whiskey Stories podcast. Brilliant.
- 36:15I guess you know what to do. Clap us in.
- 36:18Right, lads? It's half time.
- 36:20Yes, we've made it. We've made it.
- 36:22We've made it halfway through. It's been we've got some
- 36:25beautiful scenery behind us. Is that Greenock behind us?
- 36:28I guess it. Is yeah, we are Port Glasgow,
- 36:32Yeah, sort of. We're on the West of West
- 36:34coasts, not the fool at farthest West we could go, but it's the
- 36:37farthest W we've ever been, Yeah.
- 36:39Far West West of Glasgow anyway, yeah.
- 36:42Exactly. We've had a few drams, but we've
- 36:43not had too many. We're not well actually,
- 36:44probably if people are watching this and going.
- 36:46I've seen these guys do episodes from from whiskey festivals
- 36:50before. They sound a lot more
- 36:52compassmentist than they should after.
- 36:53Very well behaved. We have.
- 36:55We've got a guest here. We've got Glenn.
- 36:56Glenn, how are? You, yes.
- 36:57Yeah. Pleasure to be here lads.
- 36:58How are we doing? Great.
- 36:59How are you? Yeah, good, good.
- 37:01Feet are a wee bit sore but we're we're still standing, the
- 37:04legs are still going, so that's good.
- 37:05So you work at White and Mackay, but today you're representing
- 37:07Dal Moore, is that correct? Yeah, yeah.
- 37:08So work for White and Mackay pouring some some more drums.
- 37:12Today. So what's your what's your
- 37:13official title? Official title is a premium
- 37:16business manager. Premium businessman and Adele
- 37:19Moore and Adele. Wow, Yeah, sounds like.
- 37:22That sounds like a thick business.
- 37:25Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's the title probably sounds a
- 37:28lot more sexy than the than the role actually is, but it's no I
- 37:31get to look after some some, you know, some brilliant drafts,
- 37:35brilliant brands and get to go to some some nice places across
- 37:39the. Country and you've made it
- 37:40another whiskey store this podcast now.
- 37:41That's that's his premium as it comes through.
- 37:44I guess what you're head of premium?
- 37:46Hi, the premium. Whiskey story, you have to
- 37:49subscribe for that Head of whiskey story creation.
- 37:54Yeah, only drums, but that's. Something there?
- 37:59But you've, you've put us on a strum what we've got here.
- 38:01Yeah, so this is the luminary #3 this is the third part of a
- 38:06three-part series that we did in collaboration with the VNA in
- 38:10Dundee. Nice.
- 38:11We partnered with a with a, an architect for each iteration.
- 38:15This one's is with Ben Dobbin, who he was the lead architect
- 38:19behind the Gherkin building in London.
- 38:21If you've ever seen The Apprentice and essentially we,
- 38:24it's you know, we created 3 rare bottles and it's get sold the
- 38:27auction and all the proceeds got donated to the V and A and
- 38:3120,000 collectibles. So this is one of the
- 38:33collectibles and this is a this is actually a 17 year olds and
- 38:37seven cask finish. 7 cask finish. 7 cast finish.
- 38:41Yeah, so it goes through multiple red wine breaks to
- 38:44Chateau, enough to pap and some vintage Calvados casts in there,
- 38:48some Sherry as you'd expect with the Dalmore, and always spends
- 38:51its start of his life in next bourbon, really.
- 38:54And so we're up at 49.2% as well.
- 38:57One chill filtered, no colouring added.
- 38:59So this is one for the whiskey purists that maybe, you know,
- 39:02it's not a very Dalmore Dalmore. It's a crackin, crackin whiskey.
- 39:05What do you think? Not really, really, really easy
- 39:06going. What's the bottle of this
- 39:08setting? Somebody back?
- 39:09299 is the retail. Pick the guys are the premium
- 39:13guys like with the dramas. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 39:15Chum change mate. This is this is very, very, very
- 39:18nice. Now you know, we've not had, we
- 39:22don't, we've not talked an awful lot about Dalmore.
- 39:24On podcast, whenever Dalmore gets mentioned, we just talk
- 39:27about Richard Patterson, really. And yeah.
- 39:29Yeah. Yeah, the most expensive carpet
- 39:34in Scotland. Yeah.
- 39:35Exactly. Hello.
- 39:36But no. No.
- 39:37We've not tried an awful lot of Dalmore, which is probably a bit
- 39:40of a shame. But it is.
- 39:41But what? Is the reason behind that
- 39:42because. I don't know.
- 39:43I think I'll tell you. I'll be, I think it's easy to
- 39:47fall into the trap where like you see the Dalmore, you see the
- 39:50Mcallen's, you see them as like that's the premium.
- 39:52Yeah, yeah, yeah. And listen, I think you can, you
- 39:56can say what you like about the premium brands and there's
- 39:57plenty of people that will say, ah, it's just all that.
- 39:59But it's premium for a reason. When we had them, we had Craig
- 40:04Johnson, who, you know, he worked with Edrington, he'd been
- 40:08part of his master blender for the famous Krauss and he worked
- 40:11for, in the sort of blending process, wood management for the
- 40:14Macallan. And he sort of explained like,
- 40:15listen. It's premium and it does get a
- 40:18bit of a Rep, yeah. But at the same time, the bottom
- 40:20line is it's premium for a reason.
- 40:22And he talks about the touch points, talks about the wood
- 40:23management program and that be exactly the same with
- 40:25yourselves, I'm sure. Yeah, for sure.
- 40:27And it's, it's all steeped in, in hundreds of years of, of
- 40:30history. And yeah, look, there's some
- 40:32whiskeys that go at the top end, like for the, for the rare
- 40:35version of the, of the luminary series, you know, 3 bottles have
- 40:39collectively sold for over a quarter of £1,000,000.
- 40:42And that that's all been donated back to, to the.
- 40:44Yeah, of course. Yeah, this is obviously the £300
- 40:47is still a fair benefit for a bottle.
- 40:49But yeah, I suppose you can't get away from the premium
- 40:52nature, of course and. The brand, but that's, it sells
- 40:54as well. There's a marketplace for that
- 40:56as well. And that's that's the bottom
- 40:57line is that, you know, people might say, say what you like,
- 41:00you see what people are spending on these kind of drams, Yeah.
- 41:03And these kind of bottles. But people are buying it.
- 41:05Yeah. So as long as people are buying
- 41:06it and you've got to make sure that when someone does buy that
- 41:09price, you, you can't suddenly just say, oh, it's just because
- 41:12it's the Dalmore. Yeah, you're, you're the quality
- 41:15goes into there. Are drums as well, like when you
- 41:16first start getting into whiskey, Dalmore 12, Dalmore 15
- 41:19are always touch points. Yeah.
- 41:20And for me as well, like cigar, the cigar reserve, yeah, was one
- 41:24that it was like, oh, paydays in, yeah.
- 41:26Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, and that was a great,
- 41:29great drama as well. But I suppose the connection
- 41:32with it being cigar reserve, immediately I'm like, well, I
- 41:34can't afford a cigar. But I mean, you kindly donated
- 41:39the Dalmore 15 for our giveaway that we're doing our competition
- 41:44and that the first person to play won it.
- 41:45Yeah, yeah, yeah. Were.
- 41:47They happy about. It they were over the moon, you
- 41:49couldn't believe it. And he's been walking about with
- 41:51it under his arm for the next three hours.
- 41:53Yeah. Anyone who's won has walked past
- 41:55multiple times. It feels like they've been
- 41:56rubbing it in our. Face.
- 41:58Yeah, I mean, we've had some, we've had some big winners and
- 42:01it's been great to see, see people winning it and stuff like
- 42:03that. But as well as the Dalmore, you
- 42:05know, you guys have Fetter Care as well.
- 42:06You've got lots of other stuff now you're here representing
- 42:08Dalmore today. But yeah, there's loads of going
- 42:10on. White Mackay.
- 42:10Well, why yeah, White Mackay, we've got some amazing brands
- 42:13and amazing whiskey brands and we're very focused on on the
- 42:17West game and we do whiskey well and, and that's what we're
- 42:20focused on on delivering and, and Dura dura as well is, is
- 42:24UK's most loved whiskey. You know, it's, it's some, it's
- 42:28some fantastic brands to to work with.
- 42:30And Fetter Karen's a personal favorite.
- 42:32Yeah, it's, it's, I think it's got a little slot in everyone's
- 42:35heart. There's a whiskey a whiskey
- 42:37lover. What's the new release that you
- 42:38brought out? I've got a photo on my phone.
- 42:39Back guard. Yeah, I just, I tried that.
- 42:42Very, very nice. What's actually very easy going,
- 42:44nice and fruity. And I asked, I actually asked.
- 42:46I went into Scotch at My World this week and asked Curtis, who
- 42:50was behind the bar. I said that I just want
- 42:51something, it's my first drama, the night, just something
- 42:54easygoing and said well we've just got these in and they gave
- 42:56it and I'm really, really nice. So what's the story behind that
- 42:58then? Well, so the Vanguard, I suppose
- 43:00it actually follows a similar out to the luminary series and
- 43:03and down more in the sense that we release our rare bottle, a
- 43:07limited, limited release and there's a collectible version as
- 43:10well. And Greg, I'm sure you guys
- 43:12would know Greg Glass, his way of making whiskey is so visual.
- 43:17It's, it's like he's got a really interesting way of going
- 43:22about making whiskey. He's got, I think of
- 43:24synesthesia. So he tastes in colour and his
- 43:27tasting notes are almost done in watercolour.
- 43:30So he's looking for a whiskey. He's he's looking for like a
- 43:33mainly like a colour that he's looking for.
- 43:36And the Vanguard series is, is the the main Halo in that is a
- 43:40pink oak, French pink oak, which got his lovely sort of perfume
- 43:43kind of characteristics to it. And yeah, so we've got 99
- 43:46bottles of the rare Vanguard that's available, one in Scotch
- 43:49Balmoral with with Ross. Ross We've just mentioned it.
- 43:53Ross So guys, a free drama. Come on.
- 43:56There and then, there's the collectible version of the of
- 43:59the Vanguard as well. That's when I go out.
- 44:01Ross isn't going to give me that.
- 44:04Yeah, but so I Glen yourself then, how long have you been in
- 44:08your current role? How long have you been working
- 44:09for White and Mackay? So I've, I've been with White
- 44:11and Cat just under 2 years now. Yeah, I started my, my life in
- 44:16the, in the hospitality trades, as many do, you know, working
- 44:19in, in bars, restaurants, a wee bit in Edinburgh.
- 44:22Yeah. With the, with the Virgin Hotel
- 44:24in Edinburgh for, for a wee while and then previously in
- 44:27Cameron House running the whiskey bar there.
- 44:29So yeah, WW hospitality and drinks in general has kind of
- 44:34been my bread and butter for the last 10 years.
- 44:36Hotels, where were you there when the fire?
- 44:39I wasn't there in the fire. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 44:41I was just, I was there part of the reopening.
- 44:44Right. Yeah, post fire.
- 44:46Yeah, post fire. Post fire.
- 44:47Good place to be. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 44:49Mid fire is probably not where you want to.
- 44:51Be fire but pre firefight post firefight mid fire absolutely
- 44:56yeah so so today then you've got you've got this on the table.
- 44:59What's been what's been the popular ones that you?
- 45:01Had you know, it's funny you mentioned the cigar.
- 45:03The scar mole has just been flying off the King Alexander I
- 45:07brought with me thinking there would be a favorite.
- 45:09And it's definitely, definitely has been.
- 45:11But quite often people say, oh, I've got a damn more at home and
- 45:13I've not cracked it open. So this is a really great
- 45:16opportunity to interact with whiskey lovers that are like,
- 45:18well, do you know what? Let's let's have a taste and
- 45:20maybe, maybe they will crack open and.
- 45:22Because there's a beautiful bottle and it's a 12 point stag.
- 45:2512 point stag, Yeah, yeah. 12 point stag different to the Glen
- 45:29FedEx stag which is a. Both 12 point royal point.
- 45:32No, it won't be a 12. Point No, no, no.
- 45:34Is it not right so? The royal stag is 12 point to
- 45:37stag and it's the McKenzie code of arms, right.
- 45:40OK, I've been saying this story a lot today.
- 45:43Yeah, Yeah, I can give you this meal if you like.
- 45:46But yeah, it's a go to Steve's back in history to, you know,
- 45:50the 1200 late 1200s of story of King Alexander, a hunting trip
- 45:54with the Mackenzie clan and the Chieftain of Mackenzie clan
- 45:58saving the King's life and can granting him the emblem of the
- 46:02royal stag. 12 point of stack and.
- 46:04That is something that's been on your bottle because I've seen
- 46:06kind of vintage, vintage, no more bottles and it's still, you
- 46:11know, you still had the. Stag.
- 46:12It's been there since 1867. Really 1860?
- 46:147. Yeah, that's when the Mackenzies
- 46:16took over the distillery and from that moment on, it was the
- 46:19first thing they did. They put the 12 point of stag on
- 46:21the bottle and it's been there ever since.
- 46:23Well, I mean it's the brand kind of travels, doesn't it?
- 46:26And I think it as well from a tourist point of view, when
- 46:28people see it, it's like, well, you need to have the stag on the
- 46:31bottle. It's Elmo.
- 46:31Yeah, whiskey with a stag on the bottle.
- 46:34When I went to Taiwan, it was one of the things that surprised
- 46:36me the most. Just like how much Dalmore
- 46:38advertisement. Really, Taiwan's actually one of
- 46:41the biggest markets for value. Yeah, it's Taiwan's a huge, huge
- 46:45market for us slowing down slightly now, but the yeah,
- 46:49Taiwan historically been been a really, really important market.
- 46:52Yeah, it's. And the good prices for that,
- 46:54because Gordon and I said the pricing in Taiwan for whiskey is
- 46:58up there from a single malt point of view.
- 46:59Yeah, I, I was there. I mean, it was a pretty flash
- 47:02trip when I was. There.
- 47:03Oh, you had to go and visit, was it?
- 47:04You wouldn't visit? I went.
- 47:05And visit my cousin. Because your granny.
- 47:07Told you. Yeah, she made me.
- 47:10It was good to see it. I don't get that right but like.
- 47:13He granny stole the incumbent, I do.
- 47:14Remember getting out the airport and it was just like a humongous
- 47:17billboard, and it was just the side of the bottle.
- 47:19The stag. Yeah.
- 47:20I just said dumb like nothing else.
- 47:22Yeah, Yeah. And I was like, what the fuck?
- 47:24Yeah. I hadn't really thought about
- 47:26international, like, branding for whiskey at that time.
- 47:28This was like 2018 or something like that.
- 47:31So, but I was really, really impressed and even going to
- 47:35shops there, I was like, they have a massive collection of
- 47:38well, not only like core range stuff, but there was a huge G&M
- 47:42selection, what Whiskey society, stuff like that.
- 47:44And I was like. They love the whiskey over
- 47:45there. Yeah, and dark, dark, dark
- 47:47whiskey. So you like when you look at
- 47:49like the colouring that you you see on the heavy Sherry stuff
- 47:52they get. What is it?
- 47:53The Glenn Livet 13 Sherry Taiwan edition.
- 47:56I bought, I bought a bottle of that on auction.
- 47:58I think I've still got it in the house, but it's like Coca-Cola.
- 48:00Yeah. And then I was people were
- 48:01explaining to me like if, if you have like over there, they
- 48:04absolutely love it. And I suppose with the Dalmore,
- 48:06some of the colours that you see with the Sherry cast that you
- 48:09use in there must be. For sure, for sure.
- 48:11I mean, what we find in those sort of markets is the higher
- 48:13the number on the bottle, the better.
- 48:14Yeah, Yeah. You guys.
- 48:17Which is which is goods, but it's interestingly like the King
- 48:20Alexander is such a great seller for us doesn't do particularly
- 48:23well in Asia because it's not got a number on the front.
- 48:26Whereas, you know, sharing the story with you and the the
- 48:28history of the King Alexander and, and the US market, the
- 48:31European market goes down really, really.
- 48:33Well, you're a big fan of Roman numerals.
- 48:35Yeah, yeah. So seeing a day like today then
- 48:39having a brand like Dalmore, is it, is it beneficial?
- 48:43Does it help because people are like, oh, it's a Dalmore or does
- 48:45it do you have to do a bit more work because people say it's a
- 48:48Dalmore. It's I would rather go and see
- 48:50somebody else because I know that because the Dalmore's
- 48:53always there. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 48:54So it's like I, I know the Dalmore's there.
- 48:56Does it make, is it harder, easier?
- 48:57What do you? Like it's an interesting one
- 48:58because I think there'll be, there'll be some more
- 49:02challenging conversations sometimes.
- 49:04But in general, people are just they're, they're, they're
- 49:07already massive fans of brand. And I think the situations like
- 49:11this are great because you can really connect with the whiskey
- 49:13drinkers. Sometimes they think we're the
- 49:15premium brand, you know, that they're, I don't know, not
- 49:18stuffy, but you know, you know, I mean, maybe they wouldn't even
- 49:20bother coming to like a whiskey event.
- 49:23But I think for, for me anyway, it's really good to connect with
- 49:26the whiskey drinkers and to share.
- 49:28Stories. Well, I've seen it myself, like
- 49:30over a life, two years of doing the podcast.
- 49:32It's like at a time if someone has said to me spending £75 on a
- 49:36bottle of whiskey, yeah, what are you doing?
- 49:38Like, how can you spend that much money?
- 49:40Now I'm at a stage where, you know, Billy Big Bollocks here.
- 49:43They like but like, you know? 85.
- 49:46Pounds but but you always change but but you look at it but
- 49:51there's like you talk about the Polti 17 rare fine Polti 17 you
- 49:55got 100 hundred and odd quid and they go as value.
- 49:57Yeah, yeah. And I think that's The thing is
- 49:59if, and it doesn't matter whether it's a Macau or a
- 50:01Dalmore or whether it's a Thompson Brothers or somebody
- 50:04like that, if it's a good drum, yeah, you'll pay good money for
- 50:06it. But The thing is for the premium
- 50:08stuff, it might, there might be people that go, I just can't
- 50:11justify spending £300 in a bottle of that.
- 50:13But at the same time, so I might try that and go, I have to buy a
- 50:16bottle of that because the the whiskey is just so good.
- 50:18And I would say I am very much enjoying this, this drama and.
- 50:22I and actually, dare I say it, but something you know, at the
- 50:26end of the day, a lot of whiskey is bought to be gifted.
- 50:29Yeah, and that's a good gift. Something like Dalmore is
- 50:32probably a pretty safe bet when it comes to gifting somebody a
- 50:35whiskey because it is that recognizable brand and so forth.
- 50:40And sometimes if you think about the occasions that you drink a
- 50:43whiskey, and I mean, I've been my chat's been pretty atrocious
- 50:47today. I've been telling everyone that
- 50:48I've put 15 year old Damore in my cornflakes.
- 50:55So it's like the train today. Yeah.
- 50:56But there's, there's an occasion for every drum, maybe not
- 50:59cornflakes in your breakfast, but you know, if, if it's, if
- 51:02it's a special occasion, if it's as a wedding or, I don't know,
- 51:05you've got a promotion. Yeah, there's, there's lots of
- 51:07different occasions that you drink a whiskey and sometimes
- 51:09you want to crack open something a little bit special.
- 51:11And I feel like Damore really fits that pretty.
- 51:13Nicely we we had a lot of feta Ken when we were at.
- 51:17We had one particular afternoon where we just yeah, Montrose.
- 51:21So we, we, we got went to the, I can't remember the whole story,
- 51:26but we ended up in the boardroom.
- 51:28Oh really? Due to all.
- 51:32Sorts of things. So we ended up there and they
- 51:34had a table and it had a couple of bottles of Fair care and the
- 51:37guys just the, the, the board of directors at Montrose Football
- 51:40Club said, yeah, wire in. Really.
- 51:43Yeah, then you took. Full advantage and they said our
- 51:46local distillery and all this yeah which is and I it was it
- 51:50was fantastic so that was that whenever fair games mentioned
- 51:54that's like. Have you been to the distillery?
- 51:56No, no, we've never been. Up.
- 51:57We need to get you guys out there.
- 51:58It's too nice side. But never in my mum lives.
- 52:01My mum's moved just to joiners. Oh cool.
- 52:04So I like drove and I just took a picture of it.
- 52:07Yeah, it's an amazing to sell. It's dude, I love going to Feta
- 52:11Caren. Everything's just still it's
- 52:14it's really like family orientated and the way they make
- 52:18whiskey is really unique. The new make spirit and Feta
- 52:22Caren. I'll go out and say that I know
- 52:23I work for White Mackay. I'll go out and say in a limb is
- 52:27the best new egg spirit in the market.
- 52:29It's it's just. What about is it?
- 52:30What was it? Florally light.
- 52:32Super tropical is that you go into the into the mash house and
- 52:35it's banana bread. Yeah, it's, it's just so light
- 52:39tropical. It's like a perfume almost and
- 52:41and yeah, I just, it's just everything about feta caren
- 52:44really is great and you need to go there to experience.
- 52:46And you are open to the public. We are, yeah.
- 52:48Because it's not an area, it's not an area of Scotland that you
- 52:50associate very much with whiskey.
- 52:51Is it whiskey making? You know, when you go up,
- 52:53everyone's like, if you're going up north, you go to Space
- 52:55Islands, but over that side. Now tell me what other brands
- 52:58the White and Mackay have under their umbrella.
- 53:00Sort of recognizable brands and stuff like that.
- 53:02So the Dalmore is right at the top end and the precision, we've
- 53:06got Feta Kern and Dura White and Mackay blend, obviously the name
- 53:10on the door. We've got Woodsman, which is, I
- 53:13suppose, like a premium, a premium blend Gleva, which you
- 53:17can't really. Yeah, yeah.
- 53:18You know, Gleva keeps ticking over.
- 53:20Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's made it made a bit of a
- 53:22resurgence last year. Gleva has been.
- 53:25Someone who's worked in hospital, yeah, it very much.
- 53:27Yeah, yeah, every bub's got a bottle of Gleva, people.
- 53:31Not many pubs that don't have it people.
- 53:32Get really upset if you don't have Gleva.
- 53:34And do White and Mackay still sponsor the horse racing as
- 53:37much? No, not really the horse.
- 53:39Because he's been quite iconic. He used to see.
- 53:40It was like, wait, Mackay on the horse racing was it?
- 53:42Am I right in saying that? I'm pretty sure it was.
- 53:44I don't know, I used to. Is it Sorry, no, I completely
- 53:47changed the topic, but it's woodwork still in the works like
- 53:50the IT was like the experimental stuff that would work.
- 53:53Yeah, it was. They had bottles that were like,
- 53:57maybe it wasn't White Mackay, but I think it was your master
- 54:01blender for doing to like the first Scottish maturation.
- 54:06Ohh, so the Scottish yolk. Yeah.
- 54:08So yeah, over in Feta Kieran, we've got a Scottish Yolk
- 54:12program. Yeah, we had it.
- 54:13We had actually our first ever. It was technical.
- 54:16It was our first proper whiskey festival that went it was there.
- 54:19No, not that was an Aberfeldie Scottish yolk.
- 54:21No, we've had a Fetter Kirn 1 as well.
- 54:23Must have had a fetter. We have had the fetter kit,
- 54:24yeah. The Fettiquet, the Scottish yolk
- 54:26program at Fetter Kirn, really in 200 years will be incredible.
- 54:31What Greg wants to do is to be able to stand at one point in
- 54:34the celery and say this is where the water comes from, this is
- 54:38where the barley's growing, this is where the woods comes from,
- 54:41and this is the distillery it's all made in and you can see
- 54:44every single part of the whiskey making.
- 54:45Process that. That's Scottish Oak.
- 54:47You hear people talking. It's it's an absolute nightmare
- 54:50for working. With it's it's harsh, right, but
- 54:52what I'll I'll try and get you a sample of a three-year old
- 54:55Scottish oak, right OK, whiskey we released last year, Fred
- 54:58Karen turned 200 last year and we released a set as ten sets in
- 55:02the world from three up to a 60 year old, each of the bottles
- 55:07adding up to 200 years. The three-year old is the same
- 55:10colour pretty much as a 16 year old.
- 55:12And I might get, I don't know if I'll get fired for saying this.
- 55:16I actually think that the three-year old tasted better.
- 55:19Really, really tasted insane. Really.
- 55:21And we found that. Again out Scott, because I mean
- 55:23I've had we had the Aberfelde, but we've also I have we have
- 55:25had the fetter care at a whiskey festival definitely have yeah.
- 55:28What are you getting out of Scottish Oak?
- 55:30What's what are you expecting to get?
- 55:31What do people because we've we've talked a little bit.
- 55:33Everyone's talking about the Mizanara Glen going yeah release
- 55:37at the moment. So everyone's saying that
- 55:38Mizanara Oak and what it does and this is what you get and
- 55:40what have you, what Scottish oak given.
- 55:43It actually gives a little bit of a pepperiness to it.
- 55:46There's a bit of spice. So that's probably why a few,
- 55:49you know, the cellies have gone away from using it because it's
- 55:52quite it is quite harsh. It's an acquired taste, but it
- 55:55gives such a complexity of flavour like people often think
- 55:59it's like like a really deep Sherry kind of flavour.
- 56:02The Feds gear and 18 has a has a finish for a year in Scottish
- 56:06oak and I'd recommend giving that a shout.
- 56:08And obviously it's it's not there's not a huge amount of it
- 56:13out there. And and a three-year old Scotch
- 56:15yolk whiskey, you know, is is a bit different.
- 56:18Yeah, it would be. But it's it's really
- 56:20interesting. And I think like, you know, that
- 56:21could be the future of where. Yeah.
- 56:23Well, I think from a yeah, from a sustainability point of view,
- 56:25you got to look at that. If you've been there for 200
- 56:28years, why not look at what the next 200 years would look like?
- 56:30Exactly. And that's, and that's the
- 56:32forward thinking outlook. And that's what I would say
- 56:34about White Mackay is we really, you know, the industry isn't,
- 56:39you know, isn't what it was maybe a year or two ago, but
- 56:42we're really investing in the future and thinking 200 years
- 56:45ahead. And yeah, well, we're thinking
- 56:47about 15 minutes ahead because the doors are about to open.
- 56:51Round 2 is about to start. We've actually got to go in the
- 56:54scavenge again to try and find some a few more bottles to have
- 56:57because I think we'll hold. Too many.
- 57:01Away. We'll hold off and I don't think
- 57:02we'll have to. I mean, I think the longer
- 57:05today, I think what we saw is towards the second-half of the
- 57:08first, first session. People's competence on darts.
- 57:14There is like a sweet spot isn't there?
- 57:16Maybe like 2 dramas there. Drams that went off, but then it
- 57:20went. I don't know.
- 57:22I don't know. I don't know if they'll be
- 57:24listed right and maybe they're, well, good luck to them.
- 57:26But yeah, but basically a group of 6 Polish people came over.
- 57:31I don't know if you maybe chat to them.
- 57:32A group of 6 Polish people I haven't got.
- 57:35Oops 380-613-8061. They conned us.
- 57:39We were, we were ABS. I was like, they'll never die
- 57:42that button. One of the women, she threw 3
- 57:46darts and they went wildly different directions and then on
- 57:48the spin she had thrown another three darts to get 60 points no
- 57:52problem. Absolutely.
- 57:53Yeah. So literally you've got.
- 57:55So the point is, you've got one dart.
- 57:57Throw your dart to dartboard. Whatever number you get will put
- 57:59it towards whatever prize you could win.
- 58:02She did first. Dart didn't even hit the board.
- 58:042nd. But Dart didn't hit the board
- 58:053rd. Oh, you've hit the board.
- 58:06Well done. You've got a chance to win a
- 58:07prize. It was a bottle of Glen School
- 58:09Show. Yeah, yeah, yeah it.
- 58:10Was yeah. So, all right, spin the, spin
- 58:13the wheel. She spins the wheel, and then it
- 58:15comes up saying you've got 3 darts to get 60.
- 58:17Like this will be fine. Nailed it.
- 58:21AA, AA, AA, AA, AA, AA. You're like fair play.
- 58:25Yeah, but but that was she was the third out of the six and it
- 58:29was like after the first guy went Oh well done you use of 1
- 58:32as a group. Congratulations, you've got
- 58:33yourself a bottle. Yeah.
- 58:35Can I have a go now? You want to go today, Right.
- 58:37OK. Then he didn't win.
- 58:38Then the next person that comes in she went, she won.
- 58:40So they clean is like they got Glenn Murray 15 and the Glenn
- 58:44Scotia double wood is what they I think.
- 58:46It was Glenn Scotia like red wine.
- 58:48Yeah, double. So look, people have done well
- 58:51and like I say, the first guy with the 10 minutes of us
- 58:54starting it, the first guy rocks up and walks with a Dalboard 15
- 58:57minutes so. But thank you very much, Glenn,
- 58:59your time. But thank you for for putting
- 59:01the putting the drams up. Thank you for the DRAM as well.
- 59:03Not at all. All very best for the next the
- 59:04next 3 1/2 hours or whatever we've got.
- 59:07Cheers. Yeah.
- 59:07Cheers baby, see you at the dart board.
- 59:11I guess you know what to do. Clap, I said.
- 59:14We're on the whiskey couch. We're on nice and cosy.
- 59:20We're on the whiskey couch. Kimbaya.
- 59:23We've got, we've got Marcus Mccurley, Mccurley Mccurley here
- 59:26with us. Marcus, how are you?
- 59:28I'm not bad, man. How are you?
- 59:29I'm. Good you're you're not working
- 59:31today are. You I'm not working today.
- 59:32But you've got a team drum pass. You're just here.
- 59:35Yeah, I. Just here.
- 59:36Olivia's here, so Olivia, my partner works for Borders
- 59:38Distillery, so and Scott and John that run Lomed and Clyde a
- 59:41class, so they'll come along. Have a few drums, mingle if you
- 59:44have a few good folk, throw some darts.
- 59:47Try not to blind anybody. Have a good time.
- 59:49Brilliant. Now, you've just recently
- 59:51started a new position, So what will tell us what you're doing?
- 59:53So I am the new The Face? No, I'm the new brand
- 59:57ambassador. Do the sales for Brave New
- 59:59Spirits. Brilliant.
- 1:00:00So it's brilliant. Angus, do you know much about
- 1:00:02Brave New Spirits? I don't know.
- 1:00:03Brilliant. Tell us.
- 1:00:04So here's a segments of finding out about brave New Spirits.
- 1:00:08So Brave new Spirits, we actually just celebrated our 5th
- 1:00:11birthday. Brilliant.
- 1:00:12So it's quite a relatively young company, but what they've done
- 1:00:14in that short space of time has been phenomenal.
- 1:00:16Independent Bots are based in Glasgow.
- 1:00:18We have warehouses in the centre of Glasgow, also in Campbelltown
- 1:00:22and and within that time, you know, we're distributed in over
- 1:00:2440 countries around the world. We have our three ranges, which
- 1:00:27is cast Masters, we have our whiskey heroes and we also have
- 1:00:31our Voodoo series, which is about the connoisseurs range.
- 1:00:34And then we have volume brands as well, which again likes for
- 1:00:37example, over in Asia and Japan, hundreds of stores over there.
- 1:00:39So to do that in five years is absolutely amazing.
- 1:00:43Actually they were really kind thought the end they went, do
- 1:00:45you want to come along to our first birthday party?
- 1:00:48And I thought I feel a wee bit of an imposter syndrome here and
- 1:00:51you're doing all the clapping. Fantastic.
- 1:00:53I've only been here 3 days but they're really good team.
- 1:00:56Really good bunch in the whiskey is pretty smashing.
- 1:00:58Yeah. So you're talking about these
- 1:00:59warehouses. We were chatting earlier and you
- 1:01:01said some of the liquid that you guys must have in those
- 1:01:03warehouses. Yeah, the second day and not not
- 1:01:07flexing, but it was really cool. Got to try 50 year old.
- 1:01:10It's going to be coming out next month, which is a 50 year old
- 1:01:12Glen Burgie and it's absolutely banging, man.
- 1:01:15It's really good. That's why do the tasting notes
- 1:01:18like you're you're you're leaving me responsible to do the
- 1:01:20tasting notes for us. Really.
- 1:01:22Yeah. So so how did?
- 1:01:23How did you get into whiskey then?
- 1:01:24What's your sort of whiskey story?
- 1:01:26Funnily enough, funnily enough, it was actually doing a tour,
- 1:01:30doing a tour and Glasgow, the Clydeside Distillery and went
- 1:01:33around there and I thought, you know what, I've kind of, this is
- 1:01:36really interesting, like the history behind that kind of
- 1:01:39geekery. And from there, four years from
- 1:01:43being a tour guide at Clydeside Distillery, Glengoine said.
- 1:01:46I'm working at an All Star and now at the mighty Brave New
- 1:01:48Spirits in four years, which is just.
- 1:01:50Amazing. And we, we our last episode we
- 1:01:52were at Glengoine. Gordon Dandas took us around
- 1:01:56Great, great distillery. It's beautiful.
- 1:01:58Good stuff, good stuff. Now what?
- 1:02:00What? What are brave new Spirit?
- 1:02:01What? What kind of things will people
- 1:02:02see? If people are looking like
- 1:02:03what's what can? What can people find online or
- 1:02:06buy from brave New Spirits? Yeah, what?
- 1:02:07Kind of releases well, I brought another segment we drum that so
- 1:02:11I brought a wee miniature with me so we can crack that open.
- 1:02:14This is the cast masters range. So this is the old and rare cast
- 1:02:16masters. So that's what we have as a 31
- 1:02:19year old single cast Glenn Rothes matured then I first felt
- 1:02:21all it also hogs said not a bad we DRAM you have in your pocket.
- 1:02:24You pull that out there and it's absolutely delicious.
- 1:02:27So do you fancy we're not going? To say no to that.
- 1:02:30No, no. I've had a few of.
- 1:02:33The few days. Over the years, some really,
- 1:02:36really good ones. I think it was a four more
- 1:02:38particularly that really stood out for me a while ago.
- 1:02:40And weirdly enough, when I was in Chichaboo earlier this year,
- 1:02:44Chichaboo, wow. Yeah, when I was at Chichaboo
- 1:02:46Whiskey Fest and you had guys had a really nice stand up there
- 1:02:49as well, so. Well, I'll pop my microphone
- 1:02:53back on. The chichaboo was until the 50.
- 1:02:56The Glen Burgy 50 comes out next month.
- 1:02:57Oh, cheers by the way, Slanger. Thank you Slanger guys, thank
- 1:03:00you. Wait, before the Glenbarky comes
- 1:03:03out next month, The Chichibu Festival, that was the oldest
- 1:03:07whiskey that we released and it was the 34 little mile for the
- 1:03:09festival and I heard that was absolutely amazing, so I don't.
- 1:03:15Like you wish you had tried that job.
- 1:03:16Yeah, I kind of guided about that.
- 1:03:18So what would you say, People listen here, right?
- 1:03:19You've been in? How long you been in the new
- 1:03:21job? I think I've been three weeks 3.
- 1:03:23Weeks, right? So three weeks.
- 1:03:25I mean, you're talking about day day 2, Day three, you're getting
- 1:03:27a chance to try. Yeah, they're really good.
- 1:03:31They are a good bunch and they're passionate.
- 1:03:33And the corner Alexander Alex, a lovely guy from Germany when I
- 1:03:37was only there a few days. We've got a new voodoo series
- 1:03:40which came out and I really like the voodoo because it's really
- 1:03:41funky with the different cast maturation.
- 1:03:44So we we have a bled Atho that's been in rum hogs heads and it's
- 1:03:48like a villain casks and like that's pretty cool.
- 1:03:50You know, it's got that kind of Pete element behind the bled
- 1:03:52Atho. The spirit's really nice.
- 1:03:54It's got that nutty profile and I thought, you know what,
- 1:03:56something a little bit different.
- 1:03:57And I think whiskey, I say this all the time.
- 1:04:00I think whiskey should be fun. It should, you know, don't take
- 1:04:02it too seriously. There is a time and a place for
- 1:04:04that, but with the Whiskey heroes, you know that comic book
- 1:04:07style labels with the voodoo and then of course the cast masters
- 1:04:10are a little bit more conservative and has that
- 1:04:12beautiful kerigami illustrations on it.
- 1:04:15There's something for everybody, but most importantly, the juice.
- 1:04:18Is really good. I like what's good.
- 1:04:19So we want to go, right, OK, pick us for people who are
- 1:04:23listening. I may be thinking, right, I want
- 1:04:25to check a bit more of these brave new spirits here about it
- 1:04:28and things like that. Pick us. 33 drums go, one high
- 1:04:32end, 1 mid range, one sort of core range that you're looking
- 1:04:34at that you would sort of be recommending and pushing the
- 1:04:36people. So you're saying like, let's say
- 1:04:38I push the boat out drum, we've got a 31 year old Glenn office.
- 1:04:41Yeah, right. Should I imagine?
- 1:04:42Gorgeous, Absolutely delicious. Really, really, really good.
- 1:04:45It's absolutely insane. I sort.
- 1:04:46Of a nice drum to treat yourself with, but something that's he's
- 1:04:50going and something that a hoose drum that you can say stick in
- 1:04:53the house and have something that you can tap.
- 1:04:54It fantastic. So we have a two more 33 that
- 1:04:57came out which is in the cast Masters owned in May as which
- 1:04:59says they're in the bit under £400 RRP, but but they got 90
- 1:05:02points recently at whiskey fund. So everybody's going mad about
- 1:05:05it. It's beautiful.
- 1:05:06Tomoa is one of those distilleries.
- 1:05:08You know, you don't see it very often.
- 1:05:09You're now starting to see it more because of course Alexa,
- 1:05:12beautiful spider that comes through there.
- 1:05:13So I would say you kind of want to go high end or it's still
- 1:05:16accessible. Well, it's a lot of money, but
- 1:05:18it's this value there. There's value.
- 1:05:20There's a good value there. Dormo's a disability I see more
- 1:05:22often the more often I drive up to Elgin, Yeah.
- 1:05:25It's so beautiful, man. It's such a beautiful spot.
- 1:05:28But no, I would say that there's also a Blair Atho, which one of
- 1:05:32the first drams I tried there. And that's been again, the Cast
- 1:05:34masters range, which was fuel maturation and an all Russell
- 1:05:37Hockey gorgeous as well. The whiskey heroes.
- 1:05:40I'll keep an eye out. There's a Ben Renis that we
- 1:05:41released that's been finished in a first full PX break.
- 1:05:46Absolutely stunning. You've still got the robustness
- 1:05:48of the Ben Runnister. It's quite, quite weighty, the
- 1:05:50spirit, but the PX it doesn't, it doesn't mask over the spin
- 1:05:54up. It just it works.
- 1:05:55It works really well. And that Blair Athol and the
- 1:05:58Voodoo, I think absolutely delicious of the rum hoggies,
- 1:06:01the Lagaville and expedited casks.
- 1:06:03What's that? Start looking at what you're
- 1:06:04talking about. Price point I'd say around about
- 1:06:06with the with the cast masters. That's the Blair athols under
- 1:06:09£60, right? Good.
- 1:06:10So kind of around about 60, just under 6 lbs with the voodoo just
- 1:06:14a little bit higher. So again, accessible.
- 1:06:16Yeah, good liquid. The Voodoo Small Batch, the Cast
- 1:06:19Masters single casks. Brilliant Susan, well, I think
- 1:06:22the noise you've heard with people cheering as the first
- 1:06:24folk are starting to make their way back in round two lads.
- 1:06:27We haven't managed to scavenge and get some other prizes so it
- 1:06:31could be it could be a short, short game once we get rid of
- 1:06:33them. It's back on the train on the
- 1:06:34way home. Mr. Marcus, thanks very much for
- 1:06:36the drum. Thank you for coming on.
- 1:06:37Great chat. All the very best and enjoy the
- 1:06:39rest of the rest of your day. Cheers.
- 1:06:42Cheers, Angus. Clap aside.
- 1:06:44Welcome back to the Whiskey Stories podcast on the train on
- 1:06:47our way home from the Lomond and Clyde Whiskey Festival.
- 1:06:51I was we've got we drop in hand. We're on the same squeaky train.
- 1:06:56We're on our way home. It's been a successful outing
- 1:06:58truck. Yeah, I would say so, yeah.
- 1:07:00I think this is the voice of a little bit more hoarse than it
- 1:07:03was before, but I know it was a great event.
- 1:07:05Really driving yourself. Yeah, it was this.
- 1:07:08Train is for Edinburgh Waverly, the next stop.
- 1:07:11That's where we're going. Yeah.
- 1:07:13So we're on our, we're in, we're currently out in, Yeah, we're in
- 1:07:16Cardros. We are.
- 1:07:16We're in Cardros. Outside, I tell you what,
- 1:07:18looking out, the scenery is lovely if you if you get a
- 1:07:20chance to see, it's a lovely part of the world.
- 1:07:22Clyde Riviera, Graham. Absolutely.
- 1:07:24But like Angus with so that we were we were giving away some
- 1:07:27some whiskey today we were. Absolutely.
- 1:07:29And we actually managed to give most of it away as well, which
- 1:07:32was. Our success, we did quite well
- 1:07:33at it. We're a Chap 1, the 14 year old
- 1:07:36rare find. All more yeah, I mean, the fact
- 1:07:41is right. So first of all, well, first
- 1:07:44first person to do part of the charge.
- 1:07:46You'll see this on the on the video.
- 1:07:47We will be putting a video out for that.
- 1:07:49So you see that. But the first person to take
- 1:07:51part in the challenge nailed it and walked away with Dalmore 15,
- 1:07:54which is but I do have to say I've got a retraction to make.
- 1:07:57I just sit here wearing a lanyard, not a lanyard that has
- 1:08:01a Glen Karen at the bottom, but it says the team, team DRAM my
- 1:08:05pass, which lets people know I'm I'm I'm official, I'm there on
- 1:08:09official capacity, but I would say no lanyards are up for
- 1:08:14grabs. But.
- 1:08:16Not being handed out in a way. I would tell you this right
- 1:08:19after a long old day of being at a whiskey festival, I could
- 1:08:22really do with a lanyard round my neck with a like care and
- 1:08:25resting on it. And actually, how many times
- 1:08:29have we? We all lost our glasses about 10
- 1:08:31times and we had a table that only we used.
- 1:08:35Yeah, we had our own table. We still lost our glass.
- 1:08:37Yeah, I'm going to retract on the wankiness of.
- 1:08:42I think time and place is a big. Plan.
- 1:08:45I think there was people. That was the time and it was
- 1:08:47the. Place.
- 1:08:47There was a time and a place when you need a lanyard and
- 1:08:50there were people who had brought their own lanyards with
- 1:08:52them, One guy in particular who who ended up mailing the Treble
- 1:08:5420 on there. Some really nice like whiskey
- 1:08:58sponge decanter badges and stuff.
- 1:09:00Yeah, loads of badges since I get collected his badges and
- 1:09:03stuck them all in it. So I'm I'm making a fool.
- 1:09:06In one episode, I'm making a fool.
- 1:09:08Whiskey Stories Podcast. Graham Cogar. 10 hours.
- 1:09:11Yeah, Graham. Cogar is pro lanyard.
- 1:09:13I'm, I'm making a reduction on my previous comments where I
- 1:09:16will say actually, you know what, not having a lanyard
- 1:09:19wanky. Maybe.
- 1:09:20Maybe look out into the store because no merch.
- 1:09:23We're going to bring out whiskey stories lanyard.
- 1:09:25We're going to bring out whiskey stories lanyard.
- 1:09:27Maybe, maybe in a couple of weeks, Grace will be nothing to
- 1:09:29the listeners, but maybe in a couple of weeks, Graham, when we
- 1:09:31go up to Dingwall, we should both go with a couple of
- 1:09:33Glencairn lanyard next on the bus.
- 1:09:35Absolutely. I think I.
- 1:09:37Think the reaction would be worth it?
- 1:09:38What drams have we got? We've got, we've all got the
- 1:09:40same DRAM. We've all got the same DRAM.
- 1:09:42Power the pod Fraser Soonest. Gordon Portfail poured us a nice
- 1:09:46DRAM from Gordon Macphail on our way on our just before we were
- 1:09:49leaving. A ball Blair 33.
- 1:09:51Years, I think a 30 year old, 30 year.
- 1:09:54Old Yeah, I. Think 30 in the button, Yeah. 30
- 1:09:57year old ball Blair Gordon Macphail on a train on the way
- 1:09:59home. I mean, I've had worse strums on
- 1:10:02a train, yes. What I.
- 1:10:03Would say absolutely slumming it.
- 1:10:05We're really, we're really scraping the but Marcos gave us
- 1:10:10a lovely 31 year old when Rothfest that was that.
- 1:10:14Was actually, I think we were talking about drams just before
- 1:10:17we started recording. I think for me that was possibly
- 1:10:21the highlight of the afternoon, that drama.
- 1:10:23That was probably my favorite drama, closely followed by
- 1:10:26actually Tree. Cara had a brave valve.
- 1:10:29You like the brave valve, did you?
- 1:10:30I think it was a very old Brave. I thought that held up very,
- 1:10:33very nicely against the Glenrothes.
- 1:10:34It was a bit different, but it was very, very nice.
- 1:10:37I'm going to go and say actually I preferred the arrange cover.
- 1:10:41Their inch gour was very good. I was one of the, I think it's
- 1:10:45Phil Bourbon or something like that. 16 year old in first Fell
- 1:10:47bourbon, Yeah. Cracking drum, Yeah.
- 1:10:50But there was a drum, Graham. You went back forth twice.
- 1:10:52Yes, cameras gone again. Cameras gone again.
- 1:10:56That's all right. It's OK, the scar marks had
- 1:10:58cameras. It's switch sides.
- 1:11:04There we go. We're back in the game.
- 1:11:06That's it. So Grimm there was there was a
- 1:11:09drama you went back for twice. Yeah.
- 1:11:11Which is what breaking the golden rule of a festival is it
- 1:11:14I? Don't technically speaking, you
- 1:11:15could say if I have my phone, which is somewhere here, I'll be
- 1:11:19able to get because there's a lot of drams that you get in
- 1:11:22these things. So it's very easy to forget what
- 1:11:24you've, what you, what you had. But what I would say is I took a
- 1:11:29photo before life because what's today about this DRAM for me #1
- 1:11:32it was in a wine cooler, a bucket with ice.
- 1:11:35So straight away when you see whiskey in a wine cooler front.
- 1:11:41Whiskey Festival. So this was an Arkintosh and
- 1:11:43single malt Sauvignon Blanc finish.
- 1:11:45Vibrant and fresh. Exclusive, limited edition and I
- 1:11:50don't know if it's got an age on it.
- 1:11:52I think it did have an age, the guy said.
- 1:11:54I think it had I'm I'm going to say I'm I'm.
- 1:11:58There's nothing on the label. There was absolutely nothing on
- 1:12:00the label. You said to me, it said had
- 1:12:01something like 12 years of bourbon and then three years
- 1:12:04finished and serving you on block.
- 1:12:05I tell you what, it was an absolute cracker.
- 1:12:07You didn't like it, Chuck, or you didn't not like it, but it
- 1:12:09was the. First, it just won my cup of tea
- 1:12:11at all. I thought for that, we were
- 1:12:14actually talking about it a couple of months ago, about a
- 1:12:16month and a half ago, when one of the listeners asked what
- 1:12:21would be a DRAM that you can have on a hot day when they were
- 1:12:23off to Egypt. Yeah, we were talking about
- 1:12:26whiskey and ice. Or do you put ice in the
- 1:12:28freezer? I said the Johnny Walker White
- 1:12:30Walker, which is what put in the freezer.
- 1:12:32Well, that well, the guy said to me this is a DRAM to have after
- 1:12:35a hot spicy meal, and yeah, that kind of fits.
- 1:12:40I know the mouthfeel, I really enjoyed it, I really would say.
- 1:12:42Is I had the 1st of it but then I was holding onto my glass.
- 1:12:47By the time I took the sense it was more.
- 1:12:49Again, if you had a land yard, it wouldn't have had a land.
- 1:12:52Yard I would have avoided that problem completely.
- 1:12:54Yeah, but look, the lads did well organizing.
- 1:12:57It was a very well put together festival.
- 1:12:59There were some really, really, really good.
- 1:13:00Approaching Dunbarton Central. We're in Dumbarton now.
- 1:13:03Let's please. Mind the gap when a lighting
- 1:13:05from this. Train.
- 1:13:05I thought there were some really, really good.
- 1:13:07Some really, really good. Just a couple of bombers I've
- 1:13:09never seen before. It was a really good turn out as
- 1:13:11well. Yeah, this was.
- 1:13:12Really good turn out, busy, busy hall and interesting exhibitors
- 1:13:17as well I. Got taste living soul stuff for
- 1:13:19the first time. I think that that was probably
- 1:13:21they had a 10 year old. I actually don't remember what
- 1:13:23it's named under, but it was a This is.
- 1:13:25T Submarines. Central.
- 1:13:27This train is. For Ball and Dallas, right, told
- 1:13:30me that was my. Favorite one of my one of my
- 1:13:33highlights was when we had we were playing the game and it was
- 1:13:36the 14 Glens of space side and the fair girl when she was under
- 1:13:41pressure. Glen, Glen, Glen and then Glen
- 1:13:45Fuck. I went no, that's she was close
- 1:13:48to something like Barclay. Yeah, sounds similar, but yeah,
- 1:13:51Glenn, Glenn Fox. Glenn, fuck this.
- 1:13:54If anybody wants to found it, a salary in space.
- 1:13:56I didn't call it Glenn Fox then, yeah.
- 1:13:58I don't know how I'm. Not going to invest but.
- 1:14:01Yeah. But anyway, look.
- 1:14:04We are on a public transfer thanks to our.
- 1:14:06Sponsors Scotland. A big thanks to our sponsor
- 1:14:09ScotRail for putting it up with us.
- 1:14:11Direct service straight back-to-back to Edinburgh.
- 1:14:13And you know what? If you want to spend a couple
- 1:14:15hours on a train going through from the East Coast to the West
- 1:14:20Coast, seeing some beautiful places and scenery and then
- 1:14:22getting some whiskey. I would thoroughly recommend
- 1:14:24next year booking your tickets for the Lohman and Clyde Whiskey
- 1:14:28Festival, jumping on a train and heading through and trying some
- 1:14:31great whiskey, some great drams. Because I mean, there are a lot
- 1:14:34of, there are a lot of whiskey festivals in Scotland.
- 1:14:37And there are. They're all over the place.
- 1:14:38But what I would say about this one is very, very convenient for
- 1:14:42the train. It was only about a 10 minute
- 1:14:43walk from the station, 5 minute F, 10-5 minute walk from the
- 1:14:47station. So very.
- 1:14:49Very if you're. Close to a train station, very
- 1:14:51very accessible for you to get there and if you use the
- 1:14:55discount code, whiskey stories. Train you're getting.
- 1:14:59You get no discount. You'll get an error code.
- 1:15:02You'll get absolutely no discount whatsoever.
- 1:15:05Unless. After this podcast, someone who
- 1:15:08enjoys the DRAM and works for ScotRail is listening, contacts
- 1:15:12us because we've really enjoyed the train hanging, don't we?
- 1:15:15There's actually there's legs in a podcast just of us on a train
- 1:15:18drinking drams. I think there's, I think now
- 1:15:20that I think now that the ban of drinking alcohol on trains has
- 1:15:23been officially lifted in Scotland.
- 1:15:25Was that was that on at some point?
- 1:15:27Yeah. All right.
- 1:15:27Yeah, yeah, yeah. So yeah, it's been lifted.
- 1:15:30So we've. Got an opportunity now to enjoy
- 1:15:32a nice jam. We've got a 30 year old private
- 1:15:35single cast bottling Gordon Macphail that we could sit back,
- 1:15:38relax and enjoy. Tomorrow, as you're listening to
- 1:15:41this, we'll be hosting our Gordon Macphail Indie Bottler
- 1:15:45Spotlight. The last time ever see Fraser
- 1:15:49see this in a professional. Capacity.
- 1:15:54No problem. But yeah.
- 1:15:56That's that's it's going to be it's going to be a good night
- 1:15:59tomorrow night as we record absolutely as you listen to
- 1:16:02this. But I mean, what I would say
- 1:16:03about Fraser is worst guess we've had the.
- 1:16:05Podcast I wouldn't hold that much hope for this Andy bottle
- 1:16:08spot no, I think he's going to redeem himself I think he's
- 1:16:10going to pull out the bag I think he's.
- 1:16:12Going to the final tram he's going to pull out an 85 year old
- 1:16:16Glenn Live it generations if anyone government fails.
- 1:16:20Listen, I don't think I don't think he's going to do that.
- 1:16:23I have a 20 mil bottle. I know I heard a.
- 1:16:26Full bottle would be given to every.
- 1:16:28Guest, is that right take? Home.
- 1:16:30I mean, I mean treat on the whiskey.
- 1:16:32Stories podcast actually as we're and that's not value for
- 1:16:35money really exactly for £25. This is episode. 98.
- 1:16:39Yeah, Friday's episode Indie Butler spotted with episode 99.
- 1:16:44Then it's the Big 100 and of course the Centurion triple
- 1:16:49figures. And the important thing is to
- 1:16:51remember as well is I guess we're approaching our two year
- 1:16:55birthday, so we really need to get something planned for our
- 1:16:58second year. But it's going.
- 1:17:00To. Be good, I'll tell you what, who
- 1:17:01might be listening to this on their way up to Edinburgh is
- 1:17:04Lance Morgan. He's coming up for the Indy
- 1:17:07bottler spotlights with his current wife.
- 1:17:09So I'm looking forward to seeing seeing them back in Edinburgh,
- 1:17:12back in athletic arms again. Good to see them both.
- 1:17:14Can't wait to see you guys. Anyway, listen lads, we've got a
- 1:17:16drama to drink. We've had a good old day.
- 1:17:19It's been good fun. Thanks again to the guys at
- 1:17:22Loman, it's really hyped up the squids.
- 1:17:26This could be a. Disaster in the end?
- 1:17:27Oh, no, no. I'll call that out.
- 1:17:28It's even though it's all fine. That's it.
- 1:17:30But. Look guys, have a good, have a
- 1:17:32good one. Thanks very much for listening.
- 1:17:34Thanks for passing the pod. Share the pod.
- 1:17:36Please. Be, be, be, keep, keep telling
- 1:17:38everybody. Get involved in the weekend DRAM
- 1:17:40roll call. Get involved in our Frisky
- 1:17:42Stories Facebook group, all the other stuff.
- 1:17:44I guess we've done it again. SpongeBob Slime.
- 1:17:46Cheers. Cheers.