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The Estes Method will NEVER be the same… “Remote Contact” NOW STREAMING on PARAFlixx paranormal+ · Paranormal Lens - A Crossroads Of Curiosities, LLC Production

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I wanted to put someone in a more open state
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of mind. Now we're contemplating. The paranormal
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isn't what we think it is. All of this. Can you
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see what Brianna is seeing? Want to know. Wearing
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a headset, doing the Estes method. Oh my god.
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I'm here. It's a whole can of worms. Are you
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serious? What's happening? Remote Contact is
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now streaming on ParaFlix Paranormal Plus. Welcome
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to our podcast, where we take deep dives looking
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at various topics through a paranormal lens.
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Hi, I'm Ben. I'm Angela. And I'm Bree. What's
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new with you guys? Oh, nothing. Well, there's
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something. There's a lot of things. But one specific
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thing in particular. Is that you guys are movie
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stars now. What? Heck yeah. You have a hit film
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streaming on Paraflix, Paranormal Plus, called
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Remote Contact. Oh, yes. Sure. More movie stars.
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No, I'm kidding. I mean, it's not the first film
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we've had out, even on Paraflix, but still. We're
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not even really the stars of it, so... Yeah,
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it was... Ben, you did all the work. It was pretty
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much your thing. Well, let's talk about this
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thing. Yeah. I feel like... We are just the co
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-stars of this idea of remote contact. Yes, the
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film is called Remote Contact. It's now streaming
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on Paraflix, Paranormal Plus. There's a whole
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landing page on the website that you can check
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out for free on our website. That is a link in
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the show notes because it is interactive. You
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guys can participate. We want you to participate.
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It's not just a film. It is an ongoing experiment.
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so let's talk about the genesis of this i mean
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we kind of talk about it in the film um i guess
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i'll kind of start and when you guys come into
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the story i'll hand it off to you so i'm not
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just speaking for a long time i don't want to
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do that but um as as it has been stated in the
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film and elsewhere for years now um i am like
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a film geek i get more film gear than any of
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us have invested in paranormal gear. Even the
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paranormal stuff we've gotten has mostly been
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like FLIR cameras, night vision cameras, ultraviolet
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cameras, like filming stuff. And that's been
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no secret. So I got this new 360 camera. The
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new Insta360 X5. It's really cool. Yeah. But
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I started to think, how can we use this in paranormal
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investigating? So I started off just taking it
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to haunted locations we were investigating. And
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I got like some footage and some audio. And I
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created these little video loops, like five minute
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loops that were essentially immersive renders
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of the locations. And initially it was just like,
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oh, this is cool. You know, a lot of places we
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go to. uh unfortunately get demolished or old
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buildings who knows what will happen in time
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um a place that we've investigated in holly um
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an antique store um just burned down in a fire
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a couple years ago that was top of mind too so
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if we can at least preserve history in a way
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and document these properties that would be cool
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but then we started accumulating i think uh at
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the time we started this project had like five
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or six places that we had these immersive video
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loops of and i have a oculus quest headset you
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know vr headset so i would put it on i would
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look around and you know i hear the sounds in
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you know stereo of the place i could see the
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place in scale you know i kind of set each of
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these shots up as if it was like the height your
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eyesight height of like if you're sitting in
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the middle of the room so sitting in a chair
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is perfect to put on a vr headset and look around
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and you're back in the space so i started talking
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to you guys and i was like we can probably do
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something with this footage and this these this
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headset like we can put on a headset view these
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locations i what were those initial conversations
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like we started going crazy with that yeah well
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because you had come up for a weekend we were
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doing another project and you like presented
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this idea of like getting the footage of the
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360 of haunted locations or historical locations
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and i was so excited because there's so much
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potential that you could do with these locations
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like to not be there one like you said preserving
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history like that's what we've always been about
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is like diving into the history of locations
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and preserving like that stuff that might not
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be very well known so to one have actual footage
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of locations that's like never gonna go away
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never gonna disappear and two To be able to use
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360 footage in some sort of capacity for paranormal
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investigations was such a thrilling idea for
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me. Like, I think we talked about it for several
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hours. Like, just the possibilities are limitless,
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really. They really are. And I think it was important
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to, like, reel it in. I can get carried away
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with ideas. Yeah. This was evidence that, like,
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if we didn't have, like, a simple plan. Because
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this is weird, too. Like, no one's done this
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before. In the film, I talked to a group that's
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done, like, remote, like, dual sessions before,
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like, using, like, FaceTime and Messenger and
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stuff. But, like, no one's done, like, 360 VR
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virtual. stuff to the best of my knowledge um
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so if we start talking about all this weird stuff
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and trying to explain what we're doing and then
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going a million directions and like a kid in
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a candy store wild happy uncontrolled puppy um
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you got a couple of those brie um just you know
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just one but it would have been chaotic and it
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would be unfocused because that's kind of how
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our brains work but you know that doesn't if
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you couldn't tell by the you know flow of our
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podcast flow there yeah i'm anyways angela's
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never heard of flow what then here we go breaking
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the flow again oh my god stop being so confusing
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But this is my point. Like if we just be our
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normal chaotic selves, it would have been very
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confusing. So we had to stay focused. And behind
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the scenes, we're doing like more experiments.
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But for the sake of the film, we decided to focus
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on what we're doing with the VR headset and Estes
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method specifically. So I'm going to play a clip
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right now from the film where we describe the
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Estes method is so that we don't have to just
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repeat it for the five millionth time. The difference
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between just a regular audio session and this
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is... You have headphones that are noise reducing
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headphones. The other piece of equipment you
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have to have is a blindfold so that you can't
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read the lips of the operator to see that they're
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talking so that it prompts you to say something.
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So that receiver has no idea what the operator
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is asking, where they are, anything. They just
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are basically sitting in a dark cocoon and then
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they spout out whatever it is they hear either
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in here or coming through those headphones. Okay,
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so that's the Estus method. We all know here
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what it is, right, Angela? Yep. Okay, not confusing
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anymore. Oh, you think I don't know what that
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is? I know you know what it is. We love the Estus
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method. But essentially, we have always, like,
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experimented with Estus method. Mainly it was,
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like, using mirrors and weird... We love doing
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it with mirrors. Brianna hates doing it with
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mirrors. Yeah, no. No, I hate doing it with mirrors.
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And, you know, also in dark basements where there's
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bats. Oh, yeah. There was one time Brianna did
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a Estus session. A solo Estus method in a basement.
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Yeah, and there was a bat. Thankfully, I didn't
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know because I was wearing headphones and a mask.
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I mean, it didn't matter. I wouldn't have been
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able to see it because it was pitch black, but
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still. The footage was hilarious. I was terrified
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the whole time. Well, first, because on the footage,
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you can see the bat farther in the hallway. I'm
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like, we caught a ghost! It was in the hallway.
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And then it flies into the room. It's like, oh,
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it's a bat. Even scarier, though. Anyways, we
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started continuing to tinker with S's method
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by swapping the blindfold. Traditionally, you
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do the spirit box with a blindfold. headphones
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we decided to swap the blindfold for a vr headset
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that was playing an immersive 360 degree render
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of a haunted location that we have been to and
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investigated and initially it was just like a
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fun thing uh but then we started getting responses
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that had more to do with the place we were viewing
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in the headset because these are all places we
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knew intimately right yeah we've investigated
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before numerous times that was intentional um
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on our part we started getting responses that
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had more to do with the locations we were viewing
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than the locations we were at yeah and that's
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that's also the reason why we would we did 360
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footage of places that we know very well is for
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that exact purpose because if we're in a location
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or if we're at literally anywhere and we have
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start stuff start coming through if we don't
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know the location that we're viewing or the location
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where we're at like we're not going to be able
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to tell which side we're interacting with and
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that's why we're kind of semi -controlled environment
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by one having the 360 video immersive experience
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be of a place that we know very well at the same
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time while being in a location that we know very
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well. That's a good point. Both were controls.
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Yes. And we swapped out the person doing the
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Estes session as much as possible and asked a
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variety of questions. Yeah, and even... The one
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experiment we did, we had people who weren't
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intimately known with either location. So they
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had no bias of things that were coming through
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to be like, oh, this is something coming from
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this area or, oh, this is something coming from
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where we're at. Like, they have no idea. Because
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that's the thing with the SS method, right? It's
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so easy because we start talking about like woo
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-woo kind of stuff, you know. pretty quickly
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about like meditation and like that's this method
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opening yourself up which we'll probably get
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into in a little bit here but um it's so easy
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for someone i think that doesn't know the paranormal
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to look at that's this method and be like oh
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i can't hear what he's hearing he's just saying
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stuff oh they know this location it's so easy
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oh he got that name last time he's just gonna
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say it again Yeah. Like, oh, he knows they're
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going to ask, what's your name? So he's just
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going to say that one name he knows. So I am
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cognizant of the fact that people. People. Will
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probably believe in this method more if the people
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are shuffled in and out, and that if the people
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that we bring in that aren't us have no idea
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of the location they're viewing. the history,
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the prior experiences. And if that can pair with
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what we got and validate in a sense, then that
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just makes everything more credible in my books.
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So we intentionally withheld, we filmed this
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whole film at two events in September. And then
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we did a couple of interviews that took longer
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to schedule than to film the entire. freaking
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40 minute film yeah and then it was a very short
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plan like this all happened was in like what
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just a few months like yeah yeah like we started
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in um july i believe yeah we started the idea
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was like july but yeah the idea was conceptualized
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in july and then we didn't actually start the
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process until mid -august maybe Yeah, it was
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one event in August, one event in September,
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and then two interviews in October. And then
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the film was done. It was very easy. And we brought
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it to events that we were doing because we already
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had people on a ghost hunt. And we basically
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pitched this idea, explained what we were doing.
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And any volunteers, we had them sign the release
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forms like we always do. And then we said, hey,
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we're filming this. Come experiment. We're not
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going to tell you any more beyond what we're
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doing. um we're not going to tell you the locations
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or what we because we i didn't want anyone to
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like even we were asking questions more than
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just like the voices that or responses they were
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allegedly you know hearing or seeming to get
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i wanted to know like what they felt i wanted
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to know like if we are because it's common with
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s's method i really do believe that the main
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benefit of doing this is you start channeling
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shit our last episode was like on exorcisms and
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like channeling and stuff it's so easy for someone
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to start channeling because when you're doing
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the estus method i know at least i every time
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i've like channeled something or whatever it's
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always about doing the essence method and that's
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because like i think that i really do think there
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is something too you get in a meditative state
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with that sweeping sound the static You have
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your senses deprived. You're hyper -focused on
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something. And you really put yourself in that
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mindset. And then you're freaking, like, trying
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to reenact, like, the voices. And I'm putting
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my emotion into the emotion I hear coming through
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the box. So I'm ascribing my emotion to the ghost's
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emotion. And we're kind of, it's weird. It gets
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to that weird level where I try to, like, like,
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if the voice sounds angry and it says, like,
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get out, I'm going to say it. get out i'm not
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gonna say oh get out he does yeah it's terrifying
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it's terrifying but like if you're primed or
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susceptible to like channel or you're empathic
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or whatever like if you guys notice that like
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estus method is gonna you're gonna start channeling
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something if you're doing it properly yeah i
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feel like yeah i i that's where i lack in estus
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method is i feel like i my brain can't shut off
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everything else that's going on outside so i
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can't center myself enough to get to that thing
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i think that's my issue too like it's whenever
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i do it i don't get good responses it's like
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because i'm always like i don't know that constant
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swooshing sound um it's like nails on a chalkboard
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it makes me nervous and i just can't get in that
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meditative state and ben is really good at it
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which would explain why he's really good at doing
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it but i'm not yeah like i think i think all
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of us have our um oh my gosh our strengths strengths
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and ben's method i mean but it was important
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to have everyone included in yes in this and
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i mean all of us did have experiences that related
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and were included in the film that were pretty
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like interesting i mean okay so i have to ask
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because I feel like every team has like the designated
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like SS method person too. It's like everyone
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we collab with or whatever, they're like, they're
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the SS person. They're so good at it. And it's
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probably the same reason they're able to close
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everything out. But Bree, I've seen you do like
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SS methods in the past and like, like you said,
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like you get a couple responses in the beginning
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and then it kind of, it's hard for you to like
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get in that zone really. Nothing wrong with that
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at all. Most people. can't but yeah this that
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we filmed for remote contact i think your session
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or because you did one at this location and i
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did one right after you so it was like both of
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ours combined was so impressive and yeah everything
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i got You got to. But like not the same responses.
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But responses that we later found out. Validated
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each other. And then we ended up looking in the
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same direction. And looking at the same things.
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And like. Because that's another thing about
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the 360. Is. If you look somewhere. I have the
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footage. I lined it up and you know. Editing
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exactly where people were looking. Like if I
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look right here. I know exactly where that is
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at a location. And if a voice comes through saying,
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that's me. And then an hour later, you put on
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the box and you look at the same exact spot I
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did and said, my name is Sarah. And then we later
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find out. That it did coincide. Yeah, in this
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case, we were viewing a cemetery and that we
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both looked at the same exact headstone. Which
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just so happened to be the only one you couldn't
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see. Because it was flat. Because it was blocked
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by another one. Yeah, it tipped over. Yeah, so
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it was flat on the ground and behind another
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one. And the name was Sarah. So that's just one
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example. And there were so many examples during
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each of our sessions back to back that validated
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that we were looking at the same spot, talking
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about the same thing. Do you think, Bree, that
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like... I don't know, did you notice you were
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able to, like, focus on it more in the VR? Because
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instead of having everything off, like, you couldn't
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see, so you just had to, like, in traditional
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SS method, you have to just focus on that grating
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noise. Did having something to look at, like,
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help you focus on something? I don't, I'm not
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sure. I don't know what was different, but honestly,
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it wasn't really all that different from any
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of my other Estes methods that I've done. Like,
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I still had that sense of, like, I could hear
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things outside of the Estes method. That wasn't
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necessarily, like, the audio from the location
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either. Like, I could just barely hear you guys
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speaking but not being able to make it out. Yeah,
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and that was intentional. It was intentional
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not... I mean, A, it's incorrect. You're supposed
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to have noise reducing, not noise cancelling.
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But it was intentional to get... to pump as much
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of that location audio in as possible as well.
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So you hear the box and the location you're viewing.
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But A, I just... Like I said, I don't think it
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was any different from any of my other Estes
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methods. And I feel like that just makes it more
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valid. Because it... it was the same as any of
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my others that's definitely interesting every
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session we filmed for this doc was like everything
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seemed to correlate and it got less and less
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like each voice each response matters and it
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got more and more let's lean into like the meditative
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angle of this which really culminated um at madcon
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uh with the resonance chamber that I was very
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fortunate to experiment with for the first time.
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And that was a pretty pivotal part of the doc,
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I think, because for the first time, for anyone
21:36
that is unaware, the residence chamber is this
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incredible meditation chamber built by Lauren
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Hans, and it's currently housed at the Madison
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Seminary, which is one of our favorite places
21:46
to investigate. And there's a five -minute guided
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meditation option. which I realized fit very
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well with the five minute video loop I created
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of these places. And since we're already in the
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mindset of like, you know, we're getting more
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in a more meditative state. Is this why we're
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having these? They were bordering on like remote
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viewing experiences. So let's really lean into
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this meditative angle. and drop the SS method
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entirely. And instead, what we're pumping into
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our ears is Lauren's guided meditation in this
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chamber. So I'm in this chamber with a guided
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meditation going in my ears instead of the spirit
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box put me in a meditative state while still
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viewing the same location we were viewing doing
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the SS method sessions, if that makes any sense.
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Yeah. Yeah. Oh, sorry. I zoned out for a second.
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Is he distracting you? No, my cat is. Oh, it
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was your cat. Yeah, he was like yelling for some
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reason. Anyways, sorry. Okay, glad that makes
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sense. Yes, it does make sense. So, that got
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really interesting, doing that. So, I guess I
23:08
don't want to spoil that though, so. Yeah, you
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had some crazy things happening. Yeah. We've
23:15
been talking for, like, 20 minutes, and finally
23:18
we've reached the point where I'm going to say
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just watch the film to get more info. We've,
23:24
like, kind of dropped a couple spoilers, but,
23:26
like, listen. Nothing major. Intentionally. Because
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you should watch this film. It's streaming on
23:33
Paraflix. It's 40 minutes long. That's a short
23:38
episode of this podcast. And if you can listen
23:40
to us babbling on. by the dumbest things. Sandwiches?
23:44
Cheese layers? What other dumb shit? Those were
23:47
very good episodes. You're only listing the episodes
23:55
that I came up with. And I thought those topics
23:59
were amazing. I didn't actually realize that.
24:02
That was not targeted. I was just trying to think,
24:05
like, we spent an hour talking about, like...
24:08
cheese layers representing ghosts and then we
24:11
spent like maybe 20 minutes talking about exorcisms
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it's like no other podcast does that my whole
24:19
point was if you can listen to an hour of cheese
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layers you can you can watch 40 focused minutes
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of this like i don't want to say groundbreaking
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because like i'm it's i i'm humble i promise
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but this innovative there innovative uh project
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that we kind of put together so you can do it
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40 minutes that's nothing yeah so it's all filmed
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with the um 360 camera too yeah it's all filmed
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with 360 camera and a couple times we took out
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our phones so it's really funny because like
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so we did the web series right in college that
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was like 200 something episodes they all had
25:09
like the same flow and then the web series was
25:13
capped off with a trilogy of short films that
25:15
screened around the country those all i consider
25:19
them a trilogy they all had their same little
25:21
aesthetic and vibes and and the black and white
25:24
cinematic little vignettes with like little musings
25:30
and waxing poetic you know and they all ended
25:34
with poems And so the first two minutes of this
25:39
film, black and white, contemplating music, it
25:43
really feels like we're just continuing down
25:46
that same afterlife road. But then it just, the
25:52
rug gets pulled out under you and there's no
25:55
more art. There's no more cinema. There's no
25:59
more poetry. It's just 40 minutes of, we have
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our phones, we have a 360 camera. We're going
26:03
to just document. And just documentary style.
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Explain this project we're doing. And then end
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on a note of. We don't have the answers. We filmed
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this over the course of like. Two events. A month.
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We aren't going to. Distract. And detract from
26:25
the main point. By. We're already talking about
26:28
weird stuff. That we want you to participate
26:30
in. So we're not going to wax poetry. And make
26:33
it any weirder than it needs to be. We're going
26:35
to keep it simple. And we're just going to put
26:38
it out there. But also with doing that, it leaves
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the opportunity for more to come in the future.
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So I'm also very excited about that. Yeah, so
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let's talk a minute about stuff that didn't make
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the cut. Because there's a lot of stuff that
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we've been thinking about that it would just
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really confuse everyone if we're like, we want
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you to participate in this thing we're trying.
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So let's tell you about... 10 more things that
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we're thinking about but you can't participate
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in so uh one of them is leaning into the five
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one stereo audio because all the video and audios
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is clean video no people in it audio no talking
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do you think uh there's a potential we can catch
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evps sticking in like if you put a evp recorder
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in the middle of a headset and it's just picking
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up on the 5 .1 stereo 360 audio. You see where
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I'm going with this? Kind of, yeah. Can you catch
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EVPs in this white noise? Oh, man. I don't know.
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I don't know. That would be a good experiment.
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It would be insane if that did happen, but I
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think it's like low on the poll of like possibilities
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but if it did it would be awesome to experiment
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to see if we got something from it i mean you
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never know we also weren't sure if we were going
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to get anything from doing exactly everything's
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been surprising we're not going to know unless
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we try it would be the most controlled evp session
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because get this we know that there's no voices
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on there and if we use the same recorder doing
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sessions in a controlled environment with this
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headset we know like let's say at the two minute
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and 20 second mark we get an evp then next time
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we don't but we got one at the one minute mark
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in 15 seconds there's no voice there we didn't
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get one last time this is the same exact audio
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sample in the same exact location like and then
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what if we send this audio to like because we're
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putting the main video that we were viewing in
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this film up for free and encouraging anyone
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watching to download it and do experiments of
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their own We want to share as much of this as
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possible. If we share these audio files and tell
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other people to use them however they want, and
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they catch EVPs, but we don't, it's like, there's
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nothing on that file. I don't know what to tell
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you. Yeah. That would be really, really cool.
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I would love to have a lot of people hear this
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and try that out. Once they're able to try that
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out. Because think of the database we could collect
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and actually have data for this experiment. That's
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the basis of experiments, is the more data you
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collect, the more valid your theories and hypotheses
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become. So it would be great to get some... involvement
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of other investigators we would really need to
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like advertise that because it's like we know
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people we know people who would be willing to
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try that out but like you can't get a good um
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good experiment and a good idea gathering of
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information unless you don't have like at least
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100 people i would say yeah and another thing
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too is like on our website like i said we're
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posting the main video and there's a questionnaire
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where people who use the footage is going to
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ask how did you use it did you use it you know
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it explains like this is how we did it watch
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the film for more info but you know here's step
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by step how we utilized it if you utilize it
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in that way here's a questionnaire to fill out
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if not if someone just has access to a vr headset
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and they just want to put on this five minute
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video loop and just meditate with it I'm so interested
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if they pick up on anything because the film
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doesn't even explain any of the history of this
31:02
location, the experiences or anything. If someone
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buys, because you can buy the guided meditation
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from Lauren Hans's website. If you want to buy
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that five minute guided meditation and do that
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while or do whatever your preferred meditation
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is, if you need an audio track or not, if you're
31:24
more experienced. If you do a guided meditation
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while viewing, you don't even need to be a paranormal
31:30
investigator or have an SS session set up or
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anything. Just view, tell me what you feel. It
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would be very interesting if a bunch of people
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meditating pick up on the same things. Because
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something that happened in the film that we didn't
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even discuss, which is crazy because it didn't
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make any sense, there was a sensitive person
31:49
that did the SS session, and he was seeing...
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A figure in the video! And there's no figure
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in the video! To be totally fair though, that
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kid was like a ghost magnet though. I know! This
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wasn't a regular person. This kid had some special
32:10
abilities for sure, I feel like. How do you see,
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like, he was freaked out. He was freaked out.
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And the vibe in the room when he was seen out
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got really off and weird too. That was some crazy
32:25
shit. Even if it's just for this one moment,
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you guys need to watch this because this was
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insane. But enough spoiling. Go watch Remote
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Contact. It's out now on Paraflix streaming.
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More info on our website, of course. Links to
32:44
everything is in the show notes below. I do have
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one more thing I want to get in. I want to show
32:52
you something. Are you ready? Yes. I got an outtake
32:57
from the film. It is a Paranormal Lens exclusive.
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