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Exploring the Unique Techniques in Children's Storytelling to Support Your Children's Book · Adventures in the Heart of Children's Book Authors Podcast

• 4:16
  Amber
• 4:17
  B.
• 4:17
  Mitchell
• 4:18
  Thanks,
• 4:18
  Amber,
• 4:19
  for
• 4:19
  joining
• 4:20
  us
• 4:20
  today
• 4:20
  on
• 4:21
  the
• 4:21
  Adventures
• 4:21
  in
• 4:21
  the
• 4:21
  Heart
• 4:22
  of
• 4:22
  Children's
• 4:22
  Book
• 4:22
  Authors
• 4:23
  Podcast.
• 4:24
  For
• 4:24
  everyone
• 4:25
  who's
• 4:25
  listening,
• 4:26
  Amber's
• 4:26
  written
• 4:26
  a
• 4:27
  very
• 4:27
  cute
• 4:27
  story.
• 4:28
  Her
• 4:28
  children's
• 4:28
  book
• 4:29
  entitled
• 4:29
  the
• 4:29
  Chickadee
• 4:30
  who
• 4:30
  Knew?
• 4:31
  Amber
• 4:31
  uses
• 4:32
  a
• 4:32
  very
• 4:33
  special
• 4:33
  technique
• 4:34
  that
• 4:34
  I
• 4:35
  haven't
• 4:35
  seen
• 4:36
  used
• 4:36
  before
• 4:37
  by
• 4:37
  my
• 4:37
  guests.
• 4:38
  I
• 4:38
  always
• 4:38
  like
• 4:38
  to
• 4:38
  tease
• 4:39
  the
• 4:39
  audience
• 4:39
  a
• 4:39
  bit.
• 4:40
  I
• 4:40
  always
• 4:40
  look
• 4:40
  for
• 4:41
  what
• 4:41
  is
• 4:41
  this
• 4:42
  children's
• 4:43
  book
• 4:43
  author
• 4:43
  done
• 4:43
  differently
• 4:45
  in
• 4:45
  terms
• 4:45
  of
• 4:46
  a
• 4:46
  technique
• 4:46
  I
• 4:46
  haven't
• 4:47
  seen
• 4:47
  before.
• 4:47
  I'm
• 4:48
  interested
• 4:48
  in
• 4:49
  knowing
• 4:49
  what
• 4:50
  does
• 4:50
  being
• 4:50
  a
• 4:51
  children's
• 4:51
  book
• 4:51
  author
• 4:52
  mean
• 4:52
  to
• 4:52
  you?
• 4:53
  It
• 4:53
  has
• 4:53
  a
• 4:53
  special
• 4:54
  place
• 4:54
  in
• 4:54
  my
• 4:54
  heart.
• 4:55
  I
• 4:56
  to
• 4:56
  me,
• 4:56
  it's
• 4:56
  a
• 4:56
  way
• 4:57
  to
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  spread
• 4:57
  positivity
• 4:58
  to
• 4:58
  kids.
• 4:59
  There's
• 5:00
  so
• 5:00
  much
• 5:01
  good
• 5:01
  that
• 5:01
  comes
• 5:01
  from
• 5:02
  it
• 5:02
  to
• 5:03
  those
• 5:03
  I'm
• 5:03
  gifting
• 5:04
  it
• 5:04
  to
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  as
• 5:05
  well
• 5:05
  as
• 5:05
  to
• 5:05
  myself.
• 5:06
  It's
• 5:06
  a
• 5:06
  creative
• 5:07
  outlet
• 5:07
  for
• 5:07
  me
• 5:08
  and
• 5:09
  I
• 5:09
  feel
• 5:09
  like
• 5:10
  there
• 5:10
  there's
• 5:11
  just
• 5:11
  so
• 5:11
  much
• 5:11
  bad
• 5:12
  in
• 5:12
  the
• 5:12
  world.
• 5:13
  And
• 5:13
  this
• 5:13
  is
• 5:14
  a
• 5:14
  way
• 5:14
  to
• 5:14
  spread
• 5:14
  something
• 5:15
  good.
• 5:16
  This
• 5:16
  is
• 5:16
  a
• 5:16
  way
• 5:16
  to
• 5:17
  help
• 5:18
  kids
• 5:18
  understand
• 5:19
  things
• 5:19
  that
• 5:19
  they
• 5:19
  may
• 5:20
  not
• 5:20
  be,
• 5:20
  things
• 5:21
  they
• 5:21
  may
• 5:21
  not
• 5:21
  have
• 5:21
  taught
• 5:22
  in
• 5:22
  their
• 5:22
  home
• 5:23
  and
• 5:23
  or
• 5:24
  in
• 5:24
  other
• 5:24
  circumstances
• 5:25
  where
• 5:26
  important
• 5:27
  messages
• 5:27
  can
• 5:27
  be
• 5:28
  spread
• 5:28
  in
• 5:28
  a
• 5:29
  good
• 5:29
  way.
• 5:29
  Fantastic.
• 5:30
  Because
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  it's
• 5:31
  interesting.
• 5:31
  I'm
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  very
• 5:32
  fortunate
• 5:33
  in
• 5:33
  that
• 5:34
  I
• 5:34
  came
• 5:34
  to
• 5:34
  being
• 5:35
  to
• 5:35
  be
• 5:36
  a
• 5:36
  children's
• 5:36
  book
• 5:37
  author
• 5:37
  because
• 5:38
  of
• 5:38
  my
• 5:38
  oldest
• 5:39
  granddaughter
• 5:40
  wanting
• 5:40
  to
• 5:41
  write
• 5:41
  a
• 5:41
  children's
• 5:41
  book.
• 5:42
  That's
• 5:42
  pretty
• 5:42
  special
• 5:43
  in
• 5:43
  itself.
• 5:44
  And
• 5:44
  all
• 5:45
  the
• 5:45
  children's
• 5:45
  book
• 5:46
  authors
• 5:46
  I've
• 5:46
  met
• 5:47
  are
• 5:47
  very
• 5:47
  unique
• 5:48
  people.
• 5:48
  Thank
• 5:48
  you
• 5:49
  for
• 5:49
  that.
• 5:49
  Tell
• 5:50
  us
• 5:50
  about
• 5:50
  the
• 5:50
  inspiration
• 5:51
  behind
• 5:52
  your
• 5:52
  book.
• 5:52
  We
• 5:52
  know
• 5:53
  why
• 5:53
  you
• 5:53
  want
• 5:53
  to
• 5:53
  be
• 5:53
  a
• 5:54
  children's
• 5:54
  book
• 5:54
  author,
• 5:55
  but
• 5:55
  how
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  did
• 5:56
  you
• 5:56
  come
• 5:56
  about
• 5:56
  with
• 5:57
  the
• 5:57
  inspiration
• 5:57
  of
• 5:58
  this
• 5:58
  book?
• 5:59
  So
• 5:59
  it
• 5:59
  came
• 5:59
  from
• 5:59
  my
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  own
• 6:00
  life
• 6:00
  experiences.
• 6:02
  I've
• 6:02
  always
• 6:02
  been
• 6:02
  a
• 6:02
  dream.
• 6:03
  I've
• 6:03
  always
• 6:04
  been
• 6:04
  one
• 6:04
  who
• 6:05
  loves
• 6:05
  to
• 6:06
  come
• 6:06
  up
• 6:06
  with
• 6:06
  scenarios
• 6:07
  in
• 6:07
  my
• 6:07
  head
• 6:08
  of
• 6:08
  what
• 6:08
  life
• 6:08
  could
• 6:09
  be
• 6:09
  like.
• 6:09
  A,
• 6:10
  B
• 6:10
  or
• 6:10
  C
• 6:10
  were
• 6:11
  different
• 6:11
  or
• 6:11
  such.
• 6:12
  And
• 6:13
  I
• 6:13
  that's
• 6:14
  just
• 6:14
  always
• 6:14
  been
• 6:14
  me.
• 6:15
  And
• 6:15
  I've
• 6:16
  also
• 6:17
  had
• 6:18
  struggles
• 6:19
  with
• 6:19
  being
• 6:19
  a
• 6:20
  pessimist,
• 6:20
  I
• 6:21
  feel
• 6:21
  like.
• 6:21
  And
• 6:21
  so
• 6:22
  I
• 6:22
  wanted
• 6:22
  to
• 6:23
  combine
• 6:23
  that
• 6:23
  because
• 6:24
  I've
• 6:25
  tried
• 6:25
  as
• 6:26
  I've
• 6:26
  gotten
• 6:26
  older,
• 6:26
  through
• 6:26
  the
• 6:27
  years,
• 6:27
  I've
• 6:27
  tried
• 6:27
  to
• 6:28
  really
• 6:28
  combat
• 6:29
  that
• 6:29
  training,
• 6:29
  try
• 6:30
  to
• 6:30
  see
• 6:30
  the
• 6:30
  positive
• 6:30
  side
• 6:31
  of
• 6:31
  things,
• 6:31
  to
• 6:31
  combat
• 6:32
  that
• 6:32
  pessimist
• 6:33
  inside
• 6:33
  of
• 6:33
  me
• 6:33
  and
• 6:33
  try
• 6:34
  to
• 6:34
  be
• 6:34
  present
• 6:35
  as
• 6:35
  I've
• 6:35
  done
• 6:35
  that.
• 6:35
  I've
• 6:36
  noticed
• 6:36
  the
• 6:36
  importance
• 6:37
  of
• 6:37
  it,
• 6:37
  the
• 6:38
  importance
• 6:38
  of
• 6:38
  being
• 6:38
  present,
• 6:39
  the
• 6:39
  importance
• 6:39
  of
• 6:40
  seeing
• 6:40
  the
• 6:40
  good
• 6:41
  and
• 6:41
  the
• 6:41
  optimism
• 6:42
  and
• 6:42
  things.
• 6:43
  And
• 6:43
  so
• 6:44
  that's
• 6:44
  where
• 6:45
  the
• 6:45
  inspiration
• 6:46
  came.
• 6:46
  Was
• 6:46
  there
• 6:47
  one
• 6:47
  incident
• 6:48
  that
• 6:48
  happened
• 6:49
  to
• 6:49
  you
• 6:49
  or
• 6:49
  was
• 6:50
  it
• 6:50
  a
• 6:50
  combination
• 6:51
  of
• 6:51
  things
• 6:52
  over
• 6:52
  the
• 6:52
  Years.
• 6:53
  It
• 6:53
  was
• 6:53
  a
• 6:54
  combination
• 6:54
  of
• 6:54
  things.
• 6:54
  I
• 6:55
  remember,
• 6:56
  I
• 6:56
  think
• 6:56
  the
• 6:57
  time
• 6:57
  that
• 6:58
  the
• 6:58
  incident,
• 6:58
  I
• 6:59
  guess
• 6:59
  you
• 6:59
  could
• 6:59
  say
• 6:59
  that
• 6:59
  opened
• 7:00
  my
• 7:00
  eyes
• 7:00
  the
• 7:00
  most
• 7:01
  to
• 7:01
  this
• 7:01
  was
• 7:02
  after
• 7:02
  I
• 7:03
  graduated
• 7:03
  high
• 7:03
  school
• 7:04
  years
• 7:04
  ago.
• 7:04
  I,
• 7:05
  I
• 7:05
  was
• 7:05
  so
• 7:06
  anxious
• 7:06
  as
• 7:07
  I,
• 7:07
  I
• 7:07
  think
• 7:07
  a
• 7:07
  lot
• 7:07
  of
• 7:08
  young
• 7:08
  people
• 7:08
  are
• 7:09
  to
• 7:09
  move
• 7:10
  on
• 7:10
  to
• 7:10
  that
• 7:10
  independent
• 7:11
  phase
• 7:11
  of
• 7:11
  your
• 7:11
  life.
• 7:11
  And
• 7:12
  my
• 7:12
  home
• 7:12
  life
• 7:12
  was
• 7:13
  amazing.
• 7:13
  I
• 7:13
  had
• 7:14
  great
• 7:14
  support
• 7:14
  at
• 7:15
  home.
• 7:15
  It
• 7:15
  was
• 7:15
  wonderful.
• 7:16
  But
• 7:16
  as
• 7:16
  we
• 7:16
  all
• 7:17
  come
• 7:17
  of
• 7:17
  age,
• 7:17
  we
• 7:17
  want
• 7:17
  that
• 7:18
  independence.
• 7:18
  And
• 7:19
  so
• 7:19
  I
• 7:19
  was
• 7:19
  so
• 7:20
  anxious
• 7:20
  for.
• 7:20
  And
• 7:21
  I
• 7:21
  moved
• 7:21
  out
• 7:22
  and
• 7:22
  was
• 7:22
  on
• 7:22
  my
• 7:23
  own
• 7:23
  and
• 7:24
  I
• 7:24
  started
• 7:24
  to
• 7:25
  realize,
• 7:25
  okay,
• 7:26
  this
• 7:26
  is
• 7:26
  great,
• 7:26
  there's
• 7:27
  a
• 7:27
  lot
• 7:27
  of
• 7:27
  great
• 7:27
  things
• 7:28
  about
• 7:28
  this,
• 7:28
  but
• 7:28
  I
• 7:29
  actually
• 7:29
  really
• 7:29
  miss
• 7:30
  home.
• 7:30
  That
• 7:30
  was
• 7:31
  the
• 7:31
  first
• 7:31
  eye
• 7:31
  opening
• 7:32
  experience
• 7:33
  for
• 7:33
  me
• 7:33
  to
• 7:33
  help
• 7:33
  me
• 7:33
  realize,
• 7:34
  okay,
• 7:34
  there
• 7:35
  are
• 7:35
  great
• 7:35
  things
• 7:35
  coming,
• 7:36
  but
• 7:36
  I
• 7:37
  need
• 7:37
  to
• 7:37
  be
• 7:37
  present
• 7:37
  and
• 7:37
  be
• 7:37
  grateful
• 7:38
  for
• 7:38
  what
• 7:38
  I
• 7:38
  have
• 7:38
  in
• 7:38
  the
• 7:39
  moment
• 7:39
  because
• 7:39
  it
• 7:40
  may
• 7:40
  be
• 7:40
  gone
• 7:40
  someday,
• 7:41
  right?
• 7:41
  I
• 7:41
  may
• 7:41
  have
• 7:42
  moved
• 7:42
  home.
• 7:43
  And
• 7:43
  so
• 7:43
  that
• 7:44
  was
• 7:44
  the
• 7:44
  first
• 7:44
  time
• 7:44
  it
• 7:44
  really,
• 7:45
  truly
• 7:45
  opened
• 7:46
  my
• 7:46
  eyes
• 7:46
  and
• 7:46
  helped
• 7:47
  me
• 7:47
  to
• 7:47
  realize
• 7:48
  I
• 7:48
  used
• 7:48
  to
• 7:48
  be
• 7:49
  a
• 7:49
  huge.
• 7:49
  I
• 7:49
  would
• 7:50
  count
• 7:50
  down
• 7:50
  the
• 7:50
  days
• 7:50
  for
• 7:51
  things.
• 7:51
  I'd
• 7:51
  look
• 7:51
  forward
• 7:52
  to
• 7:52
  something
• 7:52
  and
• 7:52
  there's
• 7:52
  nothing
• 7:53
  wrong
• 7:53
  with
• 7:53
  that,
• 7:54
  but
• 7:54
  I
• 7:54
  would
• 7:54
  count
• 7:54
  down
• 7:55
  the
• 7:55
  days.
• 7:55
  Kids
• 7:55
  do
• 7:56
  growing
• 7:56
  up,
• 7:56
  we
• 7:56
  do
• 7:57
  that,
• 7:57
  we
• 7:57
  count
• 7:57
  down
• 7:57
  the
• 7:57
  days
• 7:58
  to
• 7:58
  our
• 7:58
  birthday
• 7:58
  or
• 7:59
  big
• 7:59
  events
• 7:59
  or
• 8:00
  whatever
• 8:00
  it
• 8:00
  may
• 8:01
  be.
• 8:01
  And
• 8:01
  I
• 8:02
  stopped
• 8:02
  doing
• 8:02
  that
• 8:02
  because
• 8:02
  I
• 8:03
  realized
• 8:03
  there's.
• 8:04
  Why
• 8:04
  am
• 8:04
  I
• 8:04
  just
• 8:05
  so
• 8:06
  wistful
• 8:06
  of
• 8:06
  what's
• 8:07
  coming
• 8:07
  tomorrow
• 8:08
  to
• 8:08
  the
• 8:08
  point
• 8:09
  where
• 8:09
  I
• 8:09
  can't
• 8:09
  be
• 8:09
  happy
• 8:10
  with
• 8:10
  what
• 8:10
  I
• 8:10
  have
• 8:10
  now?
• 8:11
  I
• 8:11
  love
• 8:11
  it
• 8:11
  because
• 8:12
  it
• 8:12
  definitely
• 8:13
  shows
• 8:14
  a
• 8:14
  sign
• 8:14
  of
• 8:15
  creativity
• 8:15
  on
• 8:15
  your
• 8:16
  part.
• 8:16
  And
• 8:17
  you,
• 8:17
  it
• 8:17
  sounds
• 8:18
  like
• 8:18
  you
• 8:18
  dug
• 8:18
  deeper
• 8:19
  into
• 8:19
  your
• 8:19
  creativity
• 8:20
  as
• 8:20
  you've
• 8:21
  gotten
• 8:21
  older
• 8:22
  and
• 8:22
  taken
• 8:22
  that
• 8:23
  energy
• 8:23
  and
• 8:23
  funneled
• 8:24
  into
• 8:24
  something
• 8:25
  very
• 8:25
  cool
• 8:26
  like
• 8:26
  your
• 8:26
  book.
• 8:27
  Thank
• 8:27
  you.
• 8:28
  I'm
• 8:28
  curious
• 8:29
  and
• 8:30
  I
• 8:30
  only
• 8:30
  started
• 8:31
  asking
• 8:31
  this
• 8:31
  question
• 8:32
  probably
• 8:32
  in
• 8:33
  about
• 8:33
  the
• 8:33
  last
• 8:34
  six
• 8:34
  or
• 8:35
  seven
• 8:35
  interviews
• 8:36
  and
• 8:36
  I
• 8:36
  found
• 8:36
  there
• 8:37
  was
• 8:37
  a
• 8:37
  trend.
• 8:37
  And
• 8:37
  so
• 8:38
  I'm
• 8:38
  interested
• 8:38
  in
• 8:39
  do
• 8:39
  you
• 8:39
  have
• 8:40
  a
• 8:40
  book
• 8:40
  business
• 8:41
  plan?
• 8:42
  So
• 8:42
  when
• 8:42
  you
• 8:43
  started
• 8:43
  writing
• 8:44
  your
• 8:44
  book
• 8:44
  and
• 8:44
  thought,
• 8:45
  oh,
• 8:45
  now
• 8:46
  I
• 8:46
  actually
• 8:47
  got
• 8:47
  this
• 8:47
  book.
• 8:48
  Tell
• 8:48
  us
• 8:48
  about
• 8:49
  your
• 8:49
  book
• 8:49
  business
• 8:50
  plan.
• 8:50
  My
• 8:51
  book
• 8:51
  business
• 8:51
  plan,
• 8:52
  that's
• 8:53
  a
• 8:53
  tricky
• 8:53
  one.
• 8:54
  And
• 8:54
  I
• 8:54
  feel
• 8:54
  conflicted
• 8:55
  with
• 8:55
  it
• 8:55
  because
• 8:56
  originally
• 8:57
  I
• 8:57
  went
• 8:58
  through
• 8:58
  a
• 8:58
  hybrid
• 8:58
  publishing
• 8:59
  company
• 8:59
  for
• 8:59
  the
• 8:59
  tickety
• 9:00
  who
• 9:00
  knew?
• 9:01
  And
• 9:01
  it
• 9:02
  was
• 9:02
  wonderful.
• 9:02
  They
• 9:02
  gave
• 9:03
  us
• 9:03
  amazing
• 9:03
  tools.
• 9:04
  They
• 9:04
  helped
• 9:05
  us
• 9:05
  even
• 9:06
  motivate
• 9:06
  us
• 9:06
  with
• 9:06
  marketing
• 9:07
  and
• 9:07
  give
• 9:07
  it
• 9:07
  gave
• 9:08
  us
• 9:08
  wonderful
• 9:09
  suggestions.
• 9:09
  I've
• 9:10
  watched
• 9:10
  other
• 9:10
  authors
• 9:11
  and
• 9:12
  so
• 9:12
  I've
• 9:13
  had
• 9:13
  a
• 9:13
  lot
• 9:13
  of
• 9:13
  help
• 9:13
  that
• 9:13
  way.
• 9:14
  The
• 9:15
  hard
• 9:15
  thing
• 9:15
  with
• 9:15
  that
• 9:16
  is
• 9:16
  I
• 9:16
  am
• 9:16
  not
• 9:16
  a
• 9:17
  huge
• 9:17
  fan
• 9:17
  of
• 9:17
  social
• 9:17
  media
• 9:18
  and
• 9:19
  I
• 9:19
  don't
• 9:19
  like
• 9:20
  what
• 9:20
  it
• 9:20
  does
• 9:20
  to
• 9:20
  my
• 9:20
  mental
• 9:21
  health.
• 9:21
  So
• 9:21
  I'VE
• 9:21
  had
• 9:21
  to
• 9:21
  take
• 9:22
  a
• 9:22
  step
• 9:22
  back
• 9:22
  from
• 9:23
  the
• 9:23
  social
• 9:23
  media
• 9:23
  side
• 9:24
  and
• 9:25
  so
• 9:25
  marketing
• 9:26
  my
• 9:26
  book
• 9:26
  has
• 9:26
  been
• 9:27
  a
• 9:27
  little
• 9:27
  tricky
• 9:28
  and
• 9:29
  so
• 9:29
  the
• 9:30
  neck.
• 9:30
  My
• 9:31
  next
• 9:31
  plan.
• 9:31
  I'm
• 9:32
  actually
• 9:32
  working
• 9:32
  on
• 9:33
  another
• 9:33
  manuscript
• 9:34
  right
• 9:34
  now
• 9:35
  for
• 9:35
  a
• 9:35
  different
• 9:35
  book
• 9:36
  and
• 9:36
  I'm
• 9:36
  planning.
• 9:37
  I
• 9:37
  saw
• 9:37
  the
• 9:37
  teaser
• 9:38
  on
• 9:38
  your
• 9:38
  website.
• 9:39
  Yeah.
• 9:40
  Yes.
• 9:41
  Yeah,
• 9:41
  I'm
• 9:41
  planning
• 9:42
  to
• 9:42
  write
• 9:42
  more
• 9:43
  and
• 9:43
  so
• 9:43
  I'm
• 9:44
  working
• 9:44
  on
• 9:44
  one
• 9:44
  right
• 9:44
  now.
• 9:45
  My
• 9:45
  plan
• 9:45
  is
• 9:46
  to
• 9:46
  work
• 9:46
  on.
• 9:47
  To
• 9:47
  have
• 9:47
  three
• 9:48
  polished
• 9:48
  manuscripts.
• 9:50
  So
• 9:50
  I'm
• 9:50
  going
• 9:51
  to
• 9:52
  do
• 9:52
  the
• 9:52
  best
• 9:52
  I
• 9:52
  can
• 9:52
  with
• 9:53
  these
• 9:53
  on
• 9:53
  my
• 9:53
  own,
• 9:53
  then
• 9:54
  find
• 9:54
  an
• 9:54
  editor
• 9:55
  and
• 9:56
  have
• 9:56
  them
• 9:57
  edit
• 9:57
  these
• 9:57
  manuscripts
• 9:58
  for
• 9:58
  me.
• 9:59
  And
• 9:59
  then
• 9:59
  I'm
• 10:00
  going
• 10:00
  to
• 10:00
  try
• 10:00
  and
• 10:01
  find
• 10:01
  an
• 10:01
  agent
• 10:02
  and
• 10:02
  try
• 10:02
  to
• 10:02
  see
• 10:02
  if
• 10:03
  I
• 10:03
  can
• 10:03
  get
• 10:03
  in
• 10:03
  with
• 10:03
  maybe
• 10:03
  some
• 10:04
  traditional
• 10:04
  publishing.
• 10:04
  Because
• 10:05
  I'm
• 10:05
  not
• 10:06
  going
• 10:06
  to
• 10:06
  lie,
• 10:06
  I'm
• 10:06
  not
• 10:06
  one
• 10:06
  who's
• 10:07
  great
• 10:07
  with
• 10:08
  the
• 10:08
  marketing
• 10:08
  myself.
• 10:09
  Also,
• 10:10
  I'm
• 10:10
  a
• 10:10
  mom
• 10:11
  with
• 10:11
  four
• 10:11
  young
• 10:12
  kids.
• 10:13
  My
• 10:13
  personal
• 10:13
  interest
• 10:13
  is
• 10:14
  more
• 10:14
  in
• 10:14
  the
• 10:14
  writing
• 10:14
  and
• 10:15
  so
• 10:15
  I
• 10:15
  would
• 10:15
  love
• 10:15
  to
• 10:15
  just
• 10:16
  throw
• 10:16
  my
• 10:16
  extra.
• 10:17
  I
• 10:17
  don't
• 10:17
  have
• 10:18
  time.
• 10:18
  I
• 10:18
  would
• 10:18
  like
• 10:18
  to
• 10:18
  throw
• 10:19
  that
• 10:19
  time
• 10:19
  that
• 10:20
  I
• 10:20
  can
• 10:20
  dedicate
• 10:21
  to
• 10:21
  writing
• 10:22
  into
• 10:22
  the
• 10:22
  actual
• 10:22
  writing
• 10:24
  and
• 10:24
  hopefully
• 10:25
  have
• 10:25
  some
• 10:25
  help
• 10:25
  with
• 10:25
  the
• 10:25
  marketing.
• 10:26
  So
• 10:26
  we'll
• 10:26
  see
• 10:26
  where
• 10:26
  it
• 10:26
  takes
• 10:27
  me.
• 10:27
  I
• 10:27
  know
• 10:27
  traditional
• 10:27
  publishing
• 10:28
  can
• 10:28
  be
• 10:28
  really
• 10:29
  difficult
• 10:29
  to,
• 10:30
  to
• 10:30
  be
• 10:31
  able
• 10:31
  to
• 10:31
  be
• 10:31
  accepted
• 10:32
  into
• 10:32
  and
• 10:33
  so
• 10:34
  I'm
• 10:34
  just
• 10:34
  trying
• 10:34
  it.
• 10:34
  I'm
• 10:35
  testing
• 10:35
  the
• 10:35
  waters
• 10:36
  in
• 10:36
  that
• 10:36
  area
• 10:36
  and
• 10:36
  if
• 10:37
  that
• 10:37
  does
• 10:37
  not
• 10:37
  work,
• 10:37
  then
• 10:38
  I'm
• 10:38
  going
• 10:38
  to
• 10:38
  just
• 10:38
  try
• 10:39
  to
• 10:39
  completely
• 10:40
  self
• 10:40
  publish
• 10:40
  on
• 10:40
  my
• 10:41
  own
• 10:41
  again
• 10:41
  and
• 10:42
  I
• 10:42
  will
• 10:42
  have
• 10:43
  to
• 10:43
  jump
• 10:43
  in
• 10:43
  more
• 10:44
  to
• 10:44
  the
• 10:44
  social
• 10:44
  media
• 10:45
  and
• 10:45
  just
• 10:45
  bite
• 10:46
  the
• 10:46
  bullet
• 10:46
  and
• 10:46
  be
• 10:47
  okay
• 10:47
  with
• 10:47
  it.
• 10:47
  And
• 10:47
  so
• 10:48
  at
• 10:48
  this
• 10:48
  point,
• 10:49
  again,
• 10:49
  I'm
• 10:49
  just
• 10:50
  picking
• 10:50
  up
• 10:50
  on
• 10:50
  the
• 10:51
  book
• 10:51
  business
• 10:51
  plan.
• 10:51
  I
• 10:52
  noticed
• 10:52
  on
• 10:52
  your
• 10:53
  website,
• 10:53
  it's
• 10:54
  cool
• 10:54
  and
• 10:54
  we'll
• 10:55
  certainly
• 10:55
  get
• 10:55
  to
• 10:55
  your
• 10:56
  website.
• 10:57
  I
• 10:57
  noticed
• 10:57
  you
• 10:57
  have
• 10:58
  primarily
• 10:59
  two
• 11:00
  revenue
• 11:01
  sources,
• 11:02
  so
• 11:02
  that's
• 11:02
  selling
• 11:03
  your
• 11:03
  book.
• 11:04
  And
• 11:04
  also
• 11:04
  I
• 11:05
  noticed
• 11:07
  you
• 11:07
  have
• 11:07
  a
• 11:07
  published
• 11:08
  rate
• 11:08
  for
• 11:09
  doing
• 11:10
  school
• 11:10
  visits.
• 11:11
  So
• 11:11
  can
• 11:12
  you
• 11:12
  tell
• 11:12
  us,
• 11:12
  tell
• 11:13
  us
• 11:13
  about
• 11:14
  both
• 11:15
  sides
• 11:15
  of
• 11:15
  that
• 11:15
  revenue
• 11:16
  model
• 11:17
  and
• 11:18
  what's
• 11:18
  been
• 11:19
  the
• 11:19
  most
• 11:19
  significant
• 11:20
  revenue
• 11:20
  so
• 11:21
  far
• 11:21
  for
• 11:21
  you?
• 11:22
  Okay,
• 11:23
  so
• 11:23
  for
• 11:24
  actually
• 11:24
  selling
• 11:24
  the
• 11:25
  books,
• 11:25
  I've
• 11:26
  actually
• 11:26
  had
• 11:26
  the
• 11:27
  most
• 11:27
  success
• 11:27
  at
• 11:27
  farmer's
• 11:28
  markets
• 11:28
  and
• 11:29
  that's
• 11:29
  been
• 11:29
  a
• 11:30
  really
• 11:30
  fun
• 11:31
  way
• 11:31
  to
• 11:32
  actually
• 11:32
  sell
• 11:32
  books
• 11:33
  individually.
• 11:34
  I
• 11:34
  think
• 11:34
  if
• 11:34
  I
• 11:34
  want
• 11:35
  to
• 11:35
  be
• 11:35
  able
• 11:35
  to
• 11:35
  sell
• 11:35
  more
• 11:36
  on
• 11:36
  Amazon,
• 11:36
  I'm
• 11:36
  going
• 11:37
  to
• 11:37
  have
• 11:37
  to
• 11:37
  market
• 11:37
  myself
• 11:37
  more
• 11:38
  on
• 11:38
  social
• 11:38
  media
• 11:39
  and
• 11:39
  so
• 11:40
  I've
• 11:40
  taken
• 11:40
  a
• 11:40
  step
• 11:40
  back
• 11:40
  from
• 11:41
  that
• 11:41
  again.
• 11:41
  But
• 11:41
  the
• 11:41
  school
• 11:42
  visits
• 11:42
  have
• 11:42
  been
• 11:43
  really
• 11:43
  great.
• 11:43
  The
• 11:43
  school
• 11:43
  visits.
• 11:44
  The
• 11:44
  interesting
• 11:44
  thing
• 11:45
  with
• 11:45
  that
• 11:45
  is
• 11:46
  I
• 11:46
  earn
• 11:46
  more
• 11:47
  money
• 11:48
  from
• 11:48
  the
• 11:48
  fee
• 11:48
  that
• 11:50
  the
• 11:50
  school
• 11:51
  pays
• 11:51
  me.
• 11:51
  Tell
• 11:52
  us
• 11:52
  a
• 11:52
  little
• 11:52
  bit
• 11:52
  about
• 11:53
  that.
• 11:53
  So
• 11:53
  did
• 11:53
  you
• 11:54
  go
• 11:54
  To
• 11:54
  a
• 11:54
  school
• 11:55
  board.
• 11:56
  And
• 11:56
  from
• 11:57
  the
• 11:57
  school
• 11:57
  board,
• 11:58
  you
• 11:58
  said,
• 11:58
  I'm
• 11:59
  interested
• 11:59
  in
• 12:00
  going
• 12:00
  to
• 12:00
  any
• 12:00
  school
• 12:01
  within
• 12:02
  my
• 12:02
  demographic,
• 12:03
  and
• 12:04
  this
• 12:04
  is
• 12:04
  my
• 12:04
  fee
• 12:05
  schedule.
• 12:05
  Is
• 12:05
  that
• 12:05
  how
• 12:05
  you
• 12:06
  did
• 12:06
  it?
• 12:06
  I
• 12:06
  started
• 12:06
  by
• 12:07
  reaching
• 12:07
  out
• 12:07
  to
• 12:07
  several
• 12:08
  different
• 12:08
  schools
• 12:09
  in
• 12:09
  the
• 12:09
  area,
• 12:10
  and
• 12:11
  I
• 12:11
  quickly
• 12:11
  got
• 12:11
  a
• 12:11
  feel
• 12:12
  for
• 12:12
  which
• 12:12
  districts
• 12:13
  were
• 12:14
  going
• 12:14
  to
• 12:15
  be
• 12:15
  more
• 12:16
  receptive
• 12:17
  of
• 12:17
  this.
• 12:18
  There
• 12:18
  are
• 12:18
  some
• 12:19
  districts
• 12:19
  who
• 12:19
  I
• 12:19
  think,
• 12:20
  just
• 12:20
  don't
• 12:20
  have
• 12:20
  the
• 12:21
  budget
• 12:21
  for
• 12:21
  it.
• 12:21
  They
• 12:22
  don't
• 12:22
  have
• 12:22
  the
• 12:22
  budget,
• 12:22
  and
• 12:23
  some
• 12:23
  of
• 12:23
  them
• 12:23
  aren't
• 12:23
  even
• 12:24
  willing
• 12:24
  to
• 12:25
  have
• 12:25
  authors
• 12:25
  come
• 12:25
  in
• 12:26
  for
• 12:26
  free,
• 12:26
  which
• 12:27
  is
• 12:27
  fine.
• 12:27
  It's
• 12:27
  totally
• 12:28
  fine.
• 12:28
  I
• 12:28
  understand
• 12:28
  there
• 12:29
  are
• 12:29
  reasons
• 12:29
  for
• 12:29
  that.
• 12:29
  Right.
• 12:30
  But
• 12:30
  it's
• 12:31
  just
• 12:31
  funny
• 12:31
  how
• 12:31
  different
• 12:32
  it
• 12:32
  can
• 12:32
  be.
• 12:32
  So
• 12:32
  there
• 12:33
  happens
• 12:33
  to
• 12:33
  be
• 12:33
  my.
• 12:34
  I
• 12:34
  actually
• 12:34
  got
• 12:34
  the
• 12:34
  connection
• 12:35
  through
• 12:35
  my
• 12:35
  sister,
• 12:36
  her
• 12:36
  daughter's
• 12:37
  school.
• 12:38
  My
• 12:38
  sister
• 12:38
  had
• 12:39
  connections
• 12:39
  with
• 12:39
  a
• 12:39
  PTA
• 12:40
  for
• 12:40
  her
• 12:40
  daughter's
• 12:41
  school,
• 12:42
  and
• 12:42
  so
• 12:42
  she
• 12:42
  was
• 12:42
  able
• 12:43
  to
• 12:43
  connect
• 12:43
  me
• 12:43
  with
• 12:43
  the
• 12:43
  pta,
• 12:45
  and
• 12:46
  that
• 12:46
  particular
• 12:46
  district
• 12:47
  had
• 12:48
  to
• 12:48
  have
• 12:48
  me
• 12:49
  approved
• 12:50
  as
• 12:50
  an
• 12:50
  author
• 12:51
  presenter.
• 12:51
  The
• 12:52
  PTA
• 12:52
  that
• 12:53
  introduced
• 12:53
  you
• 12:53
  to
• 12:54
  the
• 12:54
  district,
• 12:54
  Is
• 12:55
  that
• 12:55
  how
• 12:55
  that
• 12:56
  worked?
• 12:56
  Yeah.
• 12:57
  So
• 12:57
  they
• 12:57
  got
• 12:57
  me
• 12:57
  in
• 12:57
  contact
• 12:58
  with
• 12:59
  the
• 12:59
  district.
• 13:00
  I
• 13:00
  had
• 13:00
  to
• 13:00
  fill
• 13:01
  out
• 13:01
  some
• 13:01
  forms,
• 13:02
  and
• 13:03
  the
• 13:03
  district
• 13:04
  then
• 13:04
  approved
• 13:04
  me.
• 13:04
  And
• 13:05
  then
• 13:05
  I
• 13:05
  worked
• 13:05
  directly
• 13:06
  with
• 13:06
  the
• 13:06
  PTA
• 13:06
  again.
• 13:07
  And
• 13:07
  I've
• 13:08
  actually
• 13:08
  only
• 13:08
  had
• 13:08
  one
• 13:09
  assembly
• 13:09
  visit.
• 13:10
  I've
• 13:10
  had
• 13:10
  several
• 13:11
  other
• 13:11
  school
• 13:11
  visits
• 13:12
  that
• 13:12
  I
• 13:12
  did
• 13:12
  for
• 13:13
  free
• 13:13
  for
• 13:13
  other
• 13:13
  districts
• 13:14
  that
• 13:14
  didn't
• 13:14
  have
• 13:14
  the
• 13:14
  budget
• 13:15
  to
• 13:15
  pay.
• 13:16
  But
• 13:16
  I've
• 13:16
  done
• 13:16
  one
• 13:17
  paid
• 13:17
  assembly,
• 13:18
  and
• 13:18
  I'm.
• 13:19
  I'm
• 13:19
  having
• 13:19
  to
• 13:19
  hold
• 13:20
  off
• 13:20
  until
• 13:20
  the
• 13:20
  next
• 13:20
  school
• 13:21
  year
• 13:21
  because
• 13:21
  everywhere
• 13:21
  is
• 13:22
  totally
• 13:22
  booked.
• 13:23
  It
• 13:23
  just
• 13:23
  so
• 13:23
  happened
• 13:24
  that
• 13:24
  my
• 13:24
  first
• 13:25
  assembly
• 13:25
  visit
• 13:25
  was
• 13:26
  in
• 13:26
  March,
• 13:26
  and
• 13:27
  then
• 13:27
  after
• 13:27
  that,
• 13:27
  the
• 13:28
  schools
• 13:28
  have
• 13:28
  already
• 13:29
  booked
• 13:29
  everything
• 13:29
  for
• 13:30
  the
• 13:30
  rest
• 13:30
  of
• 13:30
  the
• 13:30
  year.
• 13:31
  So
• 13:31
  I
• 13:31
  will
• 13:31
  reach
• 13:32
  out
• 13:32
  again
• 13:32
  in
• 13:34
  September
• 13:34
  or
• 13:34
  October
• 13:35
  to
• 13:35
  the
• 13:35
  other
• 13:35
  schools
• 13:36
  in
• 13:36
  the
• 13:36
  district
• 13:37
  in
• 13:37
  hopes
• 13:37
  that
• 13:37
  other
• 13:38
  schools
• 13:38
  can
• 13:38
  bring
• 13:38
  me
• 13:39
  on.
• 13:39
  And
• 13:39
  I've
• 13:39
  noticed
• 13:40
  you
• 13:40
  have
• 13:41
  a.
• 13:41
  Is
• 13:41
  it
• 13:41
  a
• 13:41
  classroom
• 13:42
  fee
• 13:43
  and
• 13:43
  then
• 13:43
  an
• 13:43
  assembly
• 13:44
  fee?
• 13:44
  I
• 13:44
  haven't
• 13:45
  done
• 13:45
  any
• 13:45
  classroom
• 13:45
  fees
• 13:47
  advertising
• 13:48
  myself
• 13:48
  for
• 13:49
  assemblies.
• 13:50
  I
• 13:50
  enjoy
• 13:50
  the
• 13:50
  assembly
• 13:51
  environment.
• 13:52
  For
• 13:52
  some
• 13:52
  reason.
• 13:52
  I
• 13:53
  feel
• 13:53
  like
• 13:53
  it's
• 13:53
  so
• 13:53
  much
• 13:53
  easier
• 13:54
  to
• 13:54
  engage
• 13:55
  the
• 13:55
  kids
• 13:56
  and
• 13:57
  in
• 13:57
  bigger
• 13:57
  groups
• 13:58
  because
• 13:59
  just
• 13:59
  the
• 13:59
  way
• 13:59
  I've
• 14:00
  set
• 14:00
  up
• 14:00
  my
• 14:00
  presentation,
• 14:01
  it's
• 14:01
  more
• 14:01
  feasible
• 14:02
  with
• 14:02
  an
• 14:02
  assembly
• 14:03
  type
• 14:03
  of
• 14:03
  environment.
• 14:04
  And
• 14:04
  so
• 14:05
  that's
• 14:05
  what
• 14:05
  I
• 14:05
  advertise.
• 14:06
  I'm
• 14:06
  not
• 14:07
  definitely
• 14:07
  not
• 14:07
  opposed
• 14:08
  to
• 14:08
  classroom
• 14:09
  visits.
• 14:09
  Those
• 14:09
  are
• 14:10
  so
• 14:10
  fun,
• 14:10
  a
• 14:10
  more
• 14:11
  intimate
• 14:11
  setting.
• 14:11
  So
• 14:12
  those
• 14:12
  are
• 14:12
  great
• 14:12
  too.
• 14:12
  But
• 14:13
  as
• 14:13
  far
• 14:13
  as
• 14:14
  fees
• 14:14
  go,
• 14:14
  I
• 14:15
  focus
• 14:15
  on
• 14:15
  the
• 14:15
  assemblies.
• 14:16
  Okay.
• 14:17
  Good
• 14:17
  to
• 14:17
  know.
• 14:17
  Last
• 14:18
  week
• 14:18
  I
• 14:18
  went
• 14:19
  and
• 14:19
  read
• 14:19
  to
• 14:19
  my
• 14:20
  youngest
• 14:21
  grandson's
• 14:21
  class.
• 14:22
  Now
• 14:22
  he's
• 14:22
  in
• 14:23
  grade
• 14:23
  six.
• 14:24
  Now.
• 14:25
  It
• 14:25
  was
• 14:25
  a
• 14:26
  little
• 14:26
  different
• 14:26
  dynamic
• 14:27
  because
• 14:27
  our
• 14:27
  demographic
• 14:28
  for
• 14:28
  our
• 14:28
  book
• 14:29
  is
• 14:29
  4
• 14:29
  to
• 14:30
  10
• 14:30
  and
• 14:31
  of
• 14:31
  course
• 14:31
  these
• 14:31
  were
• 14:31
  12
• 14:32
  year
• 14:32
  olds
• 14:33
  and
• 14:33
  so
• 14:34
  a
• 14:34
  little
• 14:34
  different.
• 14:35
  But
• 14:35
  the
• 14:35
  neat
• 14:35
  thing
• 14:35
  about
• 14:36
  it
• 14:36
  is
• 14:36
  we
• 14:36
  were
• 14:36
  able
• 14:37
  to
• 14:37
  incorporate.
• 14:38
  We
• 14:38
  broke
• 14:38
  our
• 14:39
  book
• 14:39
  down
• 14:39
  and
• 14:39
  I
• 14:40
  showed
• 14:40
  them
• 14:40
  the
• 14:40
  formula
• 14:41
  of
• 14:42
  storytelling
• 14:43
  and
• 14:43
  how
• 14:43
  to
• 14:43
  write
• 14:43
  a
• 14:44
  children's
• 14:44
  book.
• 14:45
  It
• 14:45
  was
• 14:45
  fun.
• 14:46
  And
• 14:47
  that's
• 14:47
  the
• 14:47
  only.
• 14:48
  I've
• 14:48
  only
• 14:48
  done
• 14:49
  a
• 14:49
  class
• 14:49
  visit
• 14:49
  and
• 14:50
  we
• 14:50
  of
• 14:50
  course
• 14:50
  they
• 14:51
  have
• 14:51
  what
• 14:51
  they
• 14:51
  call
• 14:51
  a
• 14:52
  log
• 14:52
  board
• 14:53
  and
• 14:53
  it's
• 14:54
  like
• 14:54
  a
• 14:54
  digital.
• 14:54
  A
• 14:55
  large
• 14:55
  digital
• 14:56
  big
• 14:56
  screen
• 14:57
  and
• 14:57
  you
• 14:58
  just
• 14:58
  plug
• 14:58
  your
• 14:59
  iPad
• 14:59
  in.
• 14:59
  And
• 15:00
  I
• 15:00
  had
• 15:00
  my
• 15:00
  book
• 15:00
  on
• 15:01
  my
• 15:01
  iPad
• 15:02
  and
• 15:02
  I
• 15:02
  just
• 15:03
  read
• 15:03
  from
• 15:03
  my
• 15:03
  iPad
• 15:04
  which
• 15:04
  was
• 15:04
  projected
• 15:05
  up
• 15:05
  on
• 15:05
  the
• 15:05
  screen.
• 15:06
  So
• 15:06
  it
• 15:06
  was
• 15:06
  a
• 15:06
  lot
• 15:07
  of
• 15:07
  fun.
• 15:07
  It
• 15:08
  is
• 15:08
  fun.
• 15:08
  And
• 15:08
  it's.
• 15:09
  So
• 15:09
  both
• 15:09
  settings
• 15:10
  are
• 15:10
  fun.
• 15:10
  Assembly
• 15:11
  visits
• 15:11
  are
• 15:11
  fun.
• 15:12
  The
• 15:12
  classrooms
• 15:13
  are
• 15:13
  very
• 15:13
  fun
• 15:13
  because
• 15:13
  you
• 15:14
  can
• 15:14
  get
• 15:14
  for
• 15:15
  individual
• 15:15
  engagement
• 15:16
  and
• 15:16
  like
• 15:16
  you
• 15:16
  said,
• 15:17
  be
• 15:17
  able
• 15:17
  to
• 15:17
  break
• 15:17
  it
• 15:17
  up
• 15:18
  and
• 15:18
  have
• 15:18
  more
• 15:18
  of
• 15:18
  that
• 15:18
  individual
• 15:19
  interaction,
• 15:19
  which
• 15:20
  is
• 15:20
  really
• 15:20
  fun.
• 15:21
  So
• 15:21
  at
• 15:21
  this
• 15:21
  point
• 15:22
  you're
• 15:22
  hoping
• 15:23
  to
• 15:24
  bring
• 15:24
  in
• 15:24
  more
• 15:24
  revenue
• 15:26
  from
• 15:26
  your
• 15:27
  assembly
• 15:28
  visits
• 15:28
  versus
• 15:29
  your
• 15:29
  book?
• 15:30
  Yes,
• 15:30
  and
• 15:31
  I
• 15:31
  actually
• 15:31
  enjoy.
• 15:32
  I
• 15:32
  just
• 15:32
  love
• 15:32
  connecting
• 15:33
  with
• 15:33
  the
• 15:33
  kids.
• 15:34
  It's
• 15:35
  so
• 15:35
  fun.
• 15:35
  So
• 15:36
  the
• 15:36
  more
• 15:36
  opportunities
• 15:37
  I
• 15:37
  can
• 15:37
  have
• 15:38
  to
• 15:38
  actually
• 15:38
  connect
• 15:39
  in
• 15:39
  person
• 15:39
  with
• 15:39
  the
• 15:39
  kids
• 15:40
  about
• 15:40
  my
• 15:40
  book,
• 15:40
  the
• 15:40
  better.
• 15:41
  And
• 15:41
  so
• 15:41
  if
• 15:41
  I
• 15:41
  can
• 15:41
  be
• 15:42
  paid
• 15:42
  for
• 15:42
  that,
• 15:42
  then
• 15:42
  that's
• 15:43
  great.
• 15:43
  Absolutely.
• 15:44
  And
• 15:44
  so
• 15:44
  at
• 15:45
  this
• 15:45
  point
• 15:45
  you're
• 15:45
  feeding
• 15:46
  your
• 15:47
  ambition
• 15:48
  to
• 15:48
  bring
• 15:49
  your
• 15:49
  next
• 15:49
  book
• 15:49
  to
• 15:50
  market,
• 15:50
  is
• 15:50
  that
• 15:50
  right?
• 15:51
  Yeah.
• 15:52
  With
• 15:52
  your
• 15:52
  revenue.
• 15:53
  Yeah.
• 15:53
  So
• 15:54
  most
• 15:54
  of
• 15:54
  us,
• 15:55
  including
• 15:55
  myself
• 15:56
  and
• 15:56
  my.
• 15:56
  And
• 15:57
  of
• 15:57
  course
• 15:57
  my
• 15:57
  co
• 15:57
  author,
• 15:58
  my
• 15:58
  granddaughter,
• 15:59
  at
• 15:59
  this
• 15:59
  point,
• 15:59
  it's
• 16:00
  hasn't
• 16:01
  been
• 16:01
  a
• 16:01
  break
• 16:01
  even
• 16:02
  situation.
• 16:03
  No,
• 16:04
  no.
• 16:05
  It'll
• 16:06
  be
• 16:06
  a
• 16:06
  while.
• 16:06
  It'll
• 16:07
  be
• 16:07
  a
• 16:07
  while.
• 16:07
  And
• 16:08
  I
• 16:08
  think
• 16:08
  we
• 16:08
  all
• 16:09
  accept.
• 16:09
  That's
• 16:09
  why
• 16:10
  I
• 16:10
  talk
• 16:10
  to
• 16:10
  people
• 16:11
  about
• 16:11
  a
• 16:11
  book
• 16:12
  business
• 16:12
  plan,
• 16:12
  because
• 16:13
  it's
• 16:13
  interesting.
• 16:14
  I
• 16:14
  think
• 16:14
  we
• 16:14
  all
• 16:14
  just
• 16:15
  dive
• 16:15
  into
• 16:15
  the
• 16:16
  pool
• 16:17
  and
• 16:17
  then
• 16:18
  we
• 16:18
  figure
• 16:18
  out
• 16:18
  how
• 16:18
  to
• 16:19
  swim.
• 16:19
  So
• 16:20
  with
• 16:21
  our
• 16:21
  passion.
• 16:21
  Right,
• 16:21
  Our
• 16:22
  passion
• 16:22
  is
• 16:22
  what
• 16:22
  fuels
• 16:23
  us.
• 16:23
  And
• 16:23
  then
• 16:24
  figure
• 16:24
  out
• 16:24
  the
• 16:24
  marketing
• 16:25
  later.
• 16:25
  Absolutely,
• 16:26
  absolutely.
• 16:27
  I
• 16:27
  want
• 16:27
  to
• 16:27
  talk
• 16:27
  to
• 16:28
  you
• 16:28
  more
• 16:28
  about
• 16:29
  your
• 16:29
  publishing
• 16:29
  approach
• 16:30
  because
• 16:30
  you
• 16:31
  said
• 16:31
  you
• 16:31
  used
• 16:32
  a.
• 16:32
  I
• 16:32
  forget
• 16:33
  the
• 16:33
  terminology.
• 16:33
  What
• 16:34
  did
• 16:34
  you
• 16:34
  call
• 16:35
  your
• 16:35
  publisher?
• 16:36
  A
• 16:36
  hybrid
• 16:36
  publisher.
• 16:37
  A
• 16:37
  hybrid
• 16:38
  publisher.
• 16:38
  Okay,
• 16:39
  so
• 16:39
  we've
• 16:39
  talked
• 16:39
  about
• 16:39
  that
• 16:40
  before
• 16:40
  on
• 16:40
  our
• 16:40
  show
• 16:41
  because
• 16:41
  I
• 16:42
  looked
• 16:42
  on
• 16:42
  the
• 16:42
  back
• 16:42
  of
• 16:42
  your
• 16:43
  book
• 16:43
  and
• 16:43
  of
• 16:44
  course
• 16:44
  on
• 16:45
  the
• 16:45
  back
• 16:45
  just
• 16:46
  above
• 16:46
  the
• 16:46
  UPC
• 16:47
  code,
• 16:47
  just
• 16:47
  so
• 16:48
  that
• 16:48
  for
• 16:48
  the
• 16:48
  audience
• 16:49
  to
• 16:49
  know
• 16:50
  it
• 16:50
  has
• 16:51
  Miriam
• 16:52
  Laundry
• 16:52
  Publishing.
• 16:53
  Correct.
• 16:54
  So
• 16:54
  that's
• 16:55
  the
• 16:55
  service
• 16:55
  you
• 16:55
  use?
• 16:56
  Yes,
• 16:57
  Miriam
• 16:57
  Laundrie
• 16:58
  Publishing.
• 16:58
  And
• 16:58
  they're
• 16:59
  phenomenal.
• 16:59
  I
• 16:59
  would
• 17:00
  recommend
• 17:00
  them
• 17:00
  to
• 17:00
  anyone.
• 17:01
  If
• 17:01
  you
• 17:01
  don't
• 17:02
  mind,
• 17:02
  I'd
• 17:02
  just
• 17:02
  like
• 17:02
  to
• 17:03
  get
• 17:03
  into
• 17:03
  it
• 17:03
  a
• 17:03
  bit
• 17:04
  more.
• 17:04
  First
• 17:04
  of
• 17:04
  all,
• 17:04
  how
• 17:05
  did
• 17:05
  you
• 17:05
  find
• 17:06
  the
• 17:06
  publishing
• 17:07
  service?
• 17:08
  Like
• 17:08
  how
• 17:08
  did
• 17:08
  you
• 17:09
  find
• 17:09
  them?
• 17:09
  The
• 17:10
  cookies
• 17:10
  on
• 17:10
  my
• 17:11
  phone.
• 17:11
  Somehow
• 17:12
  they
• 17:12
  knew
• 17:12
  you
• 17:13
  were.
• 17:13
  I
• 17:14
  was
• 17:14
  researching
• 17:15
  self
• 17:15
  publishing
• 17:15
  and
• 17:16
  yeah.
• 17:17
  Okay.
• 17:17
  To
• 17:18
  stumble
• 17:18
  across.
• 17:18
  So
• 17:19
  Miriam
• 17:19
  Laundrie,
• 17:20
  she
• 17:20
  is
• 17:21
  the
• 17:21
  owner
• 17:21
  of
• 17:21
  the
• 17:21
  publishing
• 17:22
  company,
• 17:22
  she's
• 17:23
  the
• 17:23
  CEO
• 17:24
  and
• 17:24
  she
• 17:25
  has
• 17:25
  created
• 17:26
  a
• 17:26
  free
• 17:26
  course
• 17:26
  for
• 17:27
  anyone
• 17:27
  to
• 17:27
  take
• 17:28
  that
• 17:28
  kind
• 17:28
  of
• 17:28
  just
• 17:28
  introduces
• 17:29
  you
• 17:29
  to
• 17:29
  tips
• 17:30
  and
• 17:30
  tricks
• 17:30
  for
• 17:30
  writing
• 17:31
  children's
• 17:31
  books.
• 17:32
  And
• 17:32
  then
• 17:32
  from
• 17:33
  there
• 17:33
  on
• 17:33
  she
• 17:33
  had
• 17:33
  other
• 17:34
  things
• 17:34
  to
• 17:34
  offer.
• 17:35
  She
• 17:35
  had
• 17:35
  a
• 17:36
  more
• 17:36
  in
• 17:36
  depth
• 17:36
  course
• 17:37
  course
• 17:37
  to
• 17:37
  offer.
• 17:38
  And
• 17:38
  then
• 17:39
  beyond
• 17:39
  that,
• 17:40
  the
• 17:40
  publishing
• 17:41
  package
• 17:42
  where
• 17:42
  they
• 17:42
  actually
• 17:42
  help
• 17:42
  you
• 17:43
  publish
• 17:43
  your
• 17:43
  book.
• 17:43
  And
• 17:44
  so
• 17:45
  I
• 17:45
  just
• 17:45
  started
• 17:45
  from
• 17:45
  the
• 17:46
  beginning,
• 17:46
  went
• 17:46
  through
• 17:46
  her
• 17:46
  steps
• 17:47
  and
• 17:47
  to
• 17:48
  publishing
• 17:48
  my
• 17:48
  book.
• 17:48
  Her
• 17:49
  company
• 17:49
  offered
• 17:50
  different
• 17:50
  packages,
• 17:51
  is
• 17:51
  that
• 17:51
  correct?
• 17:52
  Yes
• 17:52
  and
• 17:52
  no.
• 17:53
  So
• 17:53
  there's
• 17:53
  the
• 17:54
  CBM
• 17:54
  course
• 17:56
  which
• 17:56
  just
• 17:57
  goes
• 17:57
  into
• 17:57
  depth
• 17:58
  of
• 17:58
  how
• 17:58
  to
• 17:58
  write
• 17:59
  a
• 17:59
  children's
• 17:59
  book.
• 18:00
  And
• 18:00
  then
• 18:00
  the
• 18:01
  other
• 18:01
  package
• 18:03
  would
• 18:03
  be
• 18:03
  the
• 18:03
  publishing
• 18:04
  mastermind.
• 18:05
  And
• 18:06
  that's
• 18:06
  where
• 18:06
  you
• 18:06
  actually
• 18:07
  sign
• 18:07
  up
• 18:08
  for
• 18:08
  the
• 18:08
  program.
• 18:09
  They
• 18:09
  give
• 18:09
  you.
• 18:10
  They
• 18:10
  give
• 18:10
  you
• 18:10
  like
• 18:11
  a
• 18:11
  helper
• 18:12
  through
• 18:12
  the
• 18:12
  program
• 18:12
  who
• 18:13
  can
• 18:13
  help
• 18:14
  help
• 18:14
  you
• 18:14
  through
• 18:14
  the
• 18:14
  process
• 18:15
  and
• 18:16
  be
• 18:17
  your
• 18:17
  cheerleader
• 18:18
  through
• 18:19
  along
• 18:19
  the
• 18:20
  way,
• 18:20
  answer
• 18:20
  questions
• 18:21
  and
• 18:21
  then
• 18:21
  you
• 18:22
  also
• 18:22
  are
• 18:22
  put
• 18:22
  in
• 18:23
  a
• 18:23
  group
• 18:23
  of
• 18:24
  other
• 18:24
  authors
• 18:24
  who
• 18:25
  are
• 18:25
  all.
• 18:25
  You're
• 18:25
  given
• 18:26
  a
• 18:26
  timeline.
• 18:26
  You
• 18:27
  have
• 18:27
  from
• 18:27
  this
• 18:27
  date,
• 18:28
  this
• 18:28
  month
• 18:29
  to
• 18:29
  go
• 18:29
  through
• 18:30
  these
• 18:30
  steps
• 18:30
  and
• 18:30
  get
• 18:30
  the
• 18:30
  book
• 18:31
  published.
• 18:31
  We
• 18:31
  all
• 18:31
  do
• 18:32
  go
• 18:32
  along
• 18:32
  together
• 18:33
  through
• 18:33
  the
• 18:33
  same
• 18:33
  steps.
• 18:34
  We
• 18:34
  have
• 18:35
  periodic
• 18:36
  meetings
• 18:37
  and
• 18:37
  talk
• 18:37
  about
• 18:37
  our
• 18:37
  progress
• 18:38
  goals,
• 18:38
  how
• 18:39
  we
• 18:39
  can
• 18:39
  support
• 18:39
  each
• 18:39
  other.
• 18:40
  So
• 18:40
  we
• 18:40
  all
• 18:40
  move
• 18:41
  along
• 18:41
  the
• 18:41
  program
• 18:42
  from
• 18:42
  start
• 18:42
  to
• 18:43
  finish.
• 18:44
  It's
• 18:44
  really
• 18:44
  wonderful
• 18:45
  how
• 18:45
  she
• 18:45
  set
• 18:46
  it
• 18:46
  up.
• 18:46
  You
• 18:46
  feel
• 18:47
  like
• 18:47
  you
• 18:47
  are
• 18:47
  supported
• 18:48
  through
• 18:48
  the
• 18:48
  whole
• 18:48
  way.
• 18:49
  It
• 18:49
  helps
• 18:50
  you
• 18:50
  realize
• 18:51
  it's
• 18:51
  not
• 18:51
  as
• 18:52
  scary
• 18:52
  as
• 18:52
  you
• 18:52
  thought
• 18:52
  it
• 18:52
  was
• 18:53
  or
• 18:54
  not
• 18:54
  as
• 18:54
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• 18:55
  as
• 18:55
  it
• 18:55
  seemed.
• 18:56
  Do
• 18:56
  you
• 18:57
  get
• 18:57
  a
• 18:57
  guarantee
• 18:58
  that
• 18:58
  at
• 18:59
  the
• 18:59
  end
• 18:59
  of
• 18:59
  the
• 19:00
  whole
• 19:00
  process
• 19:00
  you
• 19:01
  end
• 19:01
  up
• 19:01
  with
• 19:01
  a
• 19:02
  beautifully
• 19:03
  published
• 19:03
  children's
• 19:04
  book?
• 19:04
  Yes,
• 19:05
  they
• 19:05
  will
• 19:05
  make
• 19:05
  sure
• 19:05
  of
• 19:06
  that.
• 19:06
  They
• 19:06
  provide
• 19:07
  an
• 19:07
  editor
• 19:08
  who
• 19:09
  will
• 19:09
  give
• 19:09
  you
• 19:09
  three
• 19:09
  edits.
• 19:10
  We
• 19:11
  had
• 19:11
  to
• 19:11
  find
• 19:11
  our
• 19:11
  own
• 19:12
  illustrators,
• 19:12
  which
• 19:12
  I
• 19:12
  was
• 19:13
  honestly
• 19:13
  okay
• 19:13
  with
• 19:13
  because
• 19:14
  I
• 19:14
  loved
• 19:14
  that
• 19:14
  process.
• 19:15
  I
• 19:15
  loved
• 19:15
  picking
• 19:15
  my
• 19:16
  own
• 19:16
  illustrator.
• 19:17
  And
• 19:17
  then
• 19:18
  they
• 19:18
  also
• 19:18
  provide
• 19:18
  the
• 19:19
  book
• 19:19
  designing.
• 19:20
  Okay.
• 19:20
  And
• 19:20
  then
• 19:21
  they
• 19:21
  also
• 19:21
  helped
• 19:22
  get
• 19:22
  it
• 19:23
  uploaded
• 19:23
  to
• 19:24
  Amazon
• 19:24
  and
• 19:25
  ingramsparks.
• 19:26
  Okay,
• 19:28
  so
• 19:28
  you
• 19:28
  weren't
• 19:29
  committed
• 19:30
  through
• 19:30
  them
• 19:30
  to
• 19:31
  purchase
• 19:31
  any
• 19:32
  large
• 19:32
  quantities
• 19:33
  of
• 19:33
  books?
• 19:34
  No,
• 19:34
  no.
• 19:35
  Okay,
• 19:35
  so
• 19:36
  you
• 19:36
  just
• 19:36
  went
• 19:36
  to
• 19:36
  the
• 19:37
  print
• 19:37
  on
• 19:37
  demand
• 19:38
  service
• 19:38
  like
• 19:39
  Amazon
• 19:40
  and
• 19:40
  within
• 19:40
  group
• 19:41
  Sparks.
• 19:41
  Yeah,
• 19:42
  exactly.
• 19:42
  And
• 19:43
  just
• 19:43
  so
• 19:43
  our
• 19:43
  audience
• 19:44
  knows,
• 19:44
  again,
• 19:45
  Amazon,
• 19:46
  and
• 19:46
  that's
• 19:46
  who
• 19:46
  I
• 19:47
  purchased
• 19:47
  your
• 19:47
  book
• 19:48
  through
• 19:49
  does
• 19:49
  generally
• 19:50
  softcover
• 19:51
  and
• 19:51
  eBook.
• 19:52
  Yes,
• 19:53
  Ingramsparks
• 19:54
  does
• 19:54
  soft
• 19:54
  cover
• 19:54
  and
• 19:55
  hardcover.
• 19:56
  They
• 19:56
  just
• 19:57
  tend
• 19:57
  to
• 19:57
  be
• 19:57
  more
• 19:58
  costly
• 19:58
  than
• 19:58
  if
• 19:59
  you
• 19:59
  went
• 19:59
  to
• 19:59
  an
• 19:59
  offset
• 20:00
  printer.
• 20:01
  Yes,
• 20:01
  they
• 20:01
  are.
• 20:02
  Yeah.
• 20:02
  I
• 20:02
  focus
• 20:03
  on
• 20:03
  selling
• 20:03
  my
• 20:03
  soft
• 20:04
  covers
• 20:04
  because
• 20:05
  it's
• 20:05
  more
• 20:05
  reasonably
• 20:06
  priced.
• 20:06
  But
• 20:07
  yeah,
• 20:07
  the
• 20:07
  hardcover,
• 20:08
  you
• 20:08
  do
• 20:08
  have
• 20:08
  to
• 20:08
  charge
• 20:08
  more
• 20:08
  because
• 20:09
  ingramsparks
• 20:10
  charges
• 20:10
  us
• 20:10
  authors
• 20:11
  more
• 20:11
  for
• 20:11
  them.
• 20:12
  And
• 20:12
  just
• 20:12
  so
• 20:12
  everyone
• 20:13
  knows,
• 20:13
  too.
• 20:14
  The
• 20:14
  thing
• 20:14
  I
• 20:14
  like
• 20:15
  about
• 20:15
  Amazon,
• 20:16
  but
• 20:16
  to
• 20:16
  Amber's
• 20:17
  credit,
• 20:18
  understand
• 20:18
  that
• 20:19
  you're
• 20:19
  the
• 20:19
  book
• 20:20
  author.
• 20:20
  It's
• 20:21
  really
• 20:22
  entirely
• 20:22
  up
• 20:22
  to
• 20:23
  you
• 20:23
  how
• 20:23
  you
• 20:23
  go
• 20:23
  to
• 20:24
  market
• 20:24
  and
• 20:24
  how
• 20:25
  you
• 20:25
  market.
• 20:26
  Sell
• 20:26
  your
• 20:26
  book
• 20:27
  through
• 20:27
  Amazon.
• 20:28
  The
• 20:28
  beautiful
• 20:28
  thing
• 20:28
  about
• 20:29
  that,
• 20:29
  if
• 20:30
  you
• 20:30
  can
• 20:30
  get
• 20:30
  your
• 20:31
  people
• 20:31
  to
• 20:31
  notice
• 20:32
  your
• 20:32
  book,
• 20:33
  generally
• 20:34
  people
• 20:35
  can
• 20:35
  order
• 20:35
  your
• 20:36
  soft
• 20:36
  cover
• 20:36
  book
• 20:37
  and
• 20:37
  overnight
• 20:38
  or
• 20:38
  within
• 20:39
  two
• 20:39
  days,
• 20:39
  the
• 20:40
  book
• 20:40
  is
• 20:40
  at
• 20:40
  your
• 20:40
  door.
• 20:41
  And
• 20:42
  it's
• 20:42
  because
• 20:43
  Amazon
• 20:43
  has
• 20:44
  printing
• 20:44
  facilities
• 20:45
  all
• 20:45
  over,
• 20:46
  I'm
• 20:46
  going
• 20:47
  to
• 20:47
  say
• 20:47
  all
• 20:47
  over
• 20:47
  the
• 20:47
  world,
• 20:48
  right?
• 20:49
  Yes.
• 20:49
  And
• 20:50
  very
• 20:50
  accessible,
• 20:51
  which
• 20:52
  is
• 20:52
  really
• 20:52
  nice.
• 20:53
  You
• 20:54
  got
• 20:54
  your
• 20:54
  beautiful
• 20:55
  book
• 20:55
  into
• 20:55
  the
• 20:55
  marketplace.
• 20:57
  Does
• 20:57
  Miriam
• 20:58
  Laundrie
• 20:59
  offer
• 20:59
  any
• 21:00
  other
• 21:00
  services
• 21:01
  to
• 21:01
  market
• 21:01
  or
• 21:03
  then
• 21:03
  they
• 21:04
  have
• 21:04
  your
• 21:04
  little
• 21:04
  chickadee.
• 21:05
  So
• 21:06
  Amber
• 21:06
  the
• 21:07
  chickadee.
• 21:07
  And
• 21:07
  they
• 21:08
  go
• 21:08
  like
• 21:09
  this
• 21:09
  and
• 21:09
  say,
• 21:09
  fly.
• 21:10
  Newly
• 21:11
  minted
• 21:12
  children's
• 21:12
  book
• 21:12
  author,
• 21:13
  fly.
• 21:14
  Yeah.
• 21:15
  Is
• 21:15
  that
• 21:15
  what
• 21:15
  happens?
• 21:16
  That's
• 21:16
  pretty
• 21:17
  much
• 21:17
  it.
• 21:17
  They
• 21:17
  give
• 21:17
  us
• 21:18
  tools
• 21:19
  throughout
• 21:19
  the
• 21:19
  program.
• 21:20
  They'll
• 21:21
  bring
• 21:21
  marketing
• 21:22
  specialists
• 21:22
  on
• 21:23
  for
• 21:23
  zoom
• 21:23
  meetings
• 21:24
  to
• 21:24
  give
• 21:24
  us
• 21:24
  tips
• 21:25
  and
• 21:25
  tricks
• 21:26
  and
• 21:27
  show
• 21:27
  us
• 21:27
  some
• 21:27
  of
• 21:28
  the
• 21:28
  things
• 21:29
  that
• 21:29
  have
• 21:29
  helped
• 21:29
  them
• 21:30
  be
• 21:30
  successful.
• 21:31
  We
• 21:31
  also
• 21:32
  have
• 21:32
  a
• 21:32
  community
• 21:32
  with
• 21:33
  each
• 21:33
  other
• 21:33
  so
• 21:34
  we
• 21:34
  can
• 21:34
  watch
• 21:34
  what
• 21:35
  the
• 21:35
  other
• 21:35
  authors
• 21:35
  are
• 21:36
  doing.
• 21:36
  But
• 21:36
  yes,
• 21:37
  it
• 21:37
  is.
• 21:37
  There's
• 21:38
  a
• 21:38
  lot
• 21:38
  of
• 21:39
  freedom
• 21:39
  for
• 21:39
  us
• 21:39
  to
• 21:40
  market
• 21:40
  it
• 21:40
  the
• 21:40
  way
• 21:40
  we
• 21:40
  want
• 21:41
  to.
• 21:41
  I
• 21:41
  could
• 21:42
  tell
• 21:42
  again
• 21:43
  when
• 21:43
  we
• 21:43
  were
• 21:43
  talking
• 21:44
  and
• 21:44
  you
• 21:44
  lit
• 21:44
  up
• 21:45
  about
• 21:45
  being
• 21:46
  involved
• 21:47
  to
• 21:47
  find
• 21:47
  your
• 21:47
  own
• 21:48
  illustrator.
• 21:48
  So
• 21:49
  tell
• 21:49
  us
• 21:49
  about
• 21:50
  that
• 21:50
  process.
• 21:51
  Tell
• 21:51
  us
• 21:51
  how
• 21:51
  did
• 21:51
  you
• 21:52
  find
• 21:52
  the
• 21:52
  illustrator?
• 21:53
  Because
• 21:53
  the
• 21:54
  graphics
• 21:54
  are
• 21:54
  beautiful.
• 21:55
  It's
• 21:55
  a
• 21:55
  beautiful
• 21:56
  book.
• 21:56
  So
• 21:56
  tell
• 21:56
  us
• 21:56
  about
• 21:57
  that
• 21:57
  process.
• 21:58
  Yeah,
• 21:58
  the
• 21:59
  illustrator
• 21:59
  is
• 22:00
  truly
• 22:00
  phenomenal.
• 22:01
  And
• 22:01
  I
• 22:01
  found
• 22:02
  him
• 22:03
  through
• 22:03
  Advocate
• 22:04
  Art,
• 22:05
  the
• 22:05
  website
• 22:06
  Advocate
• 22:06
  Art.
• 22:07
  You
• 22:07
  go
• 22:07
  on.
• 22:07
  And
• 22:08
  it's
• 22:08
  basically
• 22:09
  a
• 22:09
  collection
• 22:10
  of
• 22:11
  different
• 22:11
  artists
• 22:12
  portfolios.
• 22:14
  And
• 22:14
  so
• 22:14
  I
• 22:15
  started
• 22:15
  out
• 22:15
  with
• 22:16
  a
• 22:16
  list
• 22:17
  of
• 22:17
  probably
• 22:17
  20,
• 22:18
  because
• 22:18
  there
• 22:19
  are
• 22:19
  so
• 22:19
  many
• 22:20
  just
• 22:20
  talented
• 22:21
  artists.
• 22:22
  I
• 22:23
  had
• 22:23
  to
• 22:23
  narrow
• 22:23
  it
• 22:24
  down.
• 22:24
  I
• 22:24
  had
• 22:25
  to
• 22:25
  decide,
• 22:25
  okay,
• 22:26
  what's
• 22:26
  the
• 22:26
  feel
• 22:27
  that
• 22:27
  I
• 22:27
  want
• 22:28
  for
• 22:28
  this
• 22:28
  book?
• 22:28
  Because
• 22:28
  this
• 22:29
  artist
• 22:29
  has
• 22:29
  more
• 22:29
  of
• 22:30
  a
• 22:30
  whimsical
• 22:30
  style
• 22:31
  and
• 22:31
  this
• 22:31
  other
• 22:32
  artist
• 22:32
  artist
• 22:33
  has
• 22:33
  more
• 22:33
  of
• 22:33
  a
• 22:34
  sentimental
• 22:35
  style.
• 22:36
  And
• 22:36
  so
• 22:36
  I
• 22:37
  had
• 22:37
  to
• 22:37
  choose,
• 22:38
  I
• 22:38
  had
• 22:39
  to
• 22:39
  kind
• 22:39
  of
• 22:39
  narrow
• 22:39
  it
• 22:39
  down
• 22:40
  based
• 22:40
  on
• 22:40
  the
• 22:40
  artist
• 22:41
  style.
• 22:41
  And
• 22:41
  I'm
• 22:41
  feeling
• 22:42
  like
• 22:42
  if
• 22:42
  it
• 22:43
  matched
• 22:44
  my
• 22:44
  vision
• 22:45
  for
• 22:45
  my
• 22:45
  book.
• 22:45
  You
• 22:46
  had
• 22:46
  20
• 22:47
  choices.
• 22:47
  When
• 22:48
  you
• 22:48
  first
• 22:48
  started,
• 22:49
  you
• 22:49
  said,
• 22:49
  how
• 22:50
  did
• 22:50
  you
• 22:50
  eventually
• 22:51
  get
• 22:51
  down
• 22:51
  to
• 22:52
  one?
• 22:52
  Because
• 22:52
  that's
• 22:53
  like
• 22:53
  going
• 22:53
  from
• 22:53
  20
• 22:54
  to
• 22:54
  one.
• 22:54
  Wow.
• 22:56
  Like,
• 22:56
  how
• 22:56
  did
• 22:57
  you
• 22:57
  do
• 22:57
  that?
• 22:58
  It
• 22:58
  was
• 22:58
  Hard.
• 22:59
  I
• 22:59
  just
• 22:59
  had
• 22:59
  to
• 22:59
  look.
• 23:00
  I
• 23:00
  just
• 23:00
  kept
• 23:00
  looking
• 23:00
  at
• 23:01
  their
• 23:01
  portfolios
• 23:01
  over
• 23:01
  and
• 23:02
  over,
• 23:02
  and
• 23:02
  I
• 23:03
  would
• 23:03
  just
• 23:03
  narrow
• 23:03
  it
• 23:03
  down
• 23:04
  bit
• 23:04
  by
• 23:04
  bit.
• 23:04
  And
• 23:05
  finally,
• 23:05
  did
• 23:05
  you
• 23:06
  have
• 23:06
  any
• 23:06
  contact
• 23:06
  or
• 23:07
  when
• 23:07
  did
• 23:07
  you
• 23:08
  start
• 23:08
  making
• 23:08
  contact
• 23:08
  with
• 23:09
  the
• 23:09
  illustrators?
• 23:10
  Was
• 23:10
  it
• 23:11
  when
• 23:11
  you
• 23:11
  got
• 23:11
  down
• 23:11
  to
• 23:11
  5
• 23:12
  or
• 23:12
  down
• 23:13
  to
• 23:13
  3,
• 23:13
  or
• 23:14
  how
• 23:14
  did
• 23:14
  you
• 23:14
  do
• 23:14
  that?
• 23:15
  So
• 23:16
  Advocate
• 23:17
  Art
• 23:17
  has
• 23:18
  a
• 23:18
  representative
• 23:19
  that
• 23:19
  works
• 23:19
  as
• 23:19
  a
• 23:19
  mediator
• 23:20
  between
• 23:20
  you
• 23:21
  and
• 23:21
  the
• 23:22
  artist.
• 23:22
  So
• 23:23
  I
• 23:23
  know
• 23:23
  contacted
• 23:24
  the
• 23:25
  artist,
• 23:25
  any
• 23:25
  of
• 23:26
  the
• 23:26
  artists
• 23:26
  directly
• 23:27
  until
• 23:27
  I
• 23:27
  have
• 23:27
  made
• 23:28
  my
• 23:28
  decision.
• 23:29
  This
• 23:29
  advocate
• 23:30
  was
• 23:30
  in
• 23:31
  the
• 23:31
  middle
• 23:31
  helping
• 23:31
  us.
• 23:32
  They
• 23:32
  were
• 23:32
  like
• 23:32
  an
• 23:33
  agent.
• 23:33
  They
• 23:34
  were
• 23:34
  an
• 23:34
  agent,
• 23:34
  yes.
• 23:35
  And.
• 23:35
  And
• 23:36
  I.
• 23:37
  So
• 23:37
  I
• 23:37
  believe
• 23:38
  when
• 23:38
  I
• 23:38
  had
• 23:39
  two,
• 23:40
  when
• 23:40
  I
• 23:40
  had
• 23:40
  narrowed
• 23:40
  it
• 23:40
  down
• 23:41
  to
• 23:41
  my
• 23:41
  top
• 23:42
  two,
• 23:42
  I
• 23:43
  had
• 23:43
  contacted
• 23:43
  the
• 23:44
  agent
• 23:44
  when
• 23:45
  I
• 23:45
  had
• 23:45
  my
• 23:45
  big,
• 23:46
  long
• 23:46
  list,
• 23:46
  and
• 23:47
  I
• 23:47
  was
• 23:47
  like,
• 23:47
  can
• 23:47
  you
• 23:47
  tell
• 23:47
  me
• 23:47
  about.
• 23:48
  I
• 23:48
  think
• 23:48
  I
• 23:48
  had
• 23:48
  five
• 23:48
  different.
• 23:49
  And
• 23:49
  she
• 23:49
  said,
• 23:50
  let
• 23:50
  me
• 23:50
  know.
• 23:51
  Basically,
• 23:52
  narrow
• 23:52
  it
• 23:52
  down
• 23:52
  more.
• 23:52
  And
• 23:53
  then.
• 23:54
  Okay,
• 23:55
  they
• 23:55
  encouraged
• 23:55
  you
• 23:55
  to
• 23:56
  get
• 23:56
  it
• 23:56
  down
• 23:56
  to.
• 23:57
  Now,
• 23:57
  was
• 23:57
  it
• 23:57
  two
• 23:58
  or
• 23:58
  three?
• 23:59
  I
• 23:59
  know
• 23:59
  you
• 23:59
  said
• 23:59
  two,
• 24:00
  but
• 24:00
  did
• 24:00
  they
• 24:01
  have
• 24:01
  a
• 24:01
  number
• 24:01
  in
• 24:02
  mind
• 24:02
  before
• 24:02
  they
• 24:03
  wanted?
• 24:03
  They
• 24:04
  would
• 24:04
  let
• 24:04
  you
• 24:04
  contact
• 24:05
  the
• 24:05
  illustrator?
• 24:06
  I
• 24:07
  had
• 24:07
  two.
• 24:07
  And
• 24:08
  what
• 24:08
  I
• 24:08
  was
• 24:09
  talking
• 24:09
  to
• 24:09
  the
• 24:09
  agent,
• 24:10
  just
• 24:10
  telling
• 24:10
  her,
• 24:11
  I
• 24:11
  don't
• 24:11
  know
• 24:11
  which
• 24:12
  one
• 24:12
  to
• 24:12
  go
• 24:12
  with.
• 24:12
  They're
• 24:13
  both
• 24:13
  so
• 24:13
  great.
• 24:13
  So
• 24:14
  she
• 24:14
  said,
• 24:14
  what
• 24:14
  you
• 24:14
  can
• 24:15
  do
• 24:15
  is
• 24:16
  ask
• 24:16
  each
• 24:17
  illustrator
• 24:18
  to
• 24:18
  draw
• 24:19
  up
• 24:19
  a
• 24:19
  picture
• 24:20
  of
• 24:20
  your
• 24:20
  main
• 24:21
  character.
• 24:21
  And
• 24:22
  I
• 24:22
  had
• 24:23
  to
• 24:23
  pay
• 24:23
  money
• 24:23
  to
• 24:23
  do
• 24:23
  that.
• 24:24
  But
• 24:24
  to
• 24:24
  me,
• 24:25
  it
• 24:25
  wasn't
• 24:25
  outrageous.
• 24:26
  And
• 24:26
  it.
• 24:27
  To
• 24:27
  me,
• 24:27
  it
• 24:27
  was
• 24:27
  worth
• 24:27
  it
• 24:28
  because
• 24:28
  I
• 24:29
  wanted
• 24:29
  to
• 24:29
  make
• 24:29
  sure
• 24:29
  I
• 24:29
  was
• 24:29
  getting
• 24:30
  what
• 24:30
  I
• 24:30
  was
• 24:30
  going
• 24:31
  to
• 24:31
  be
• 24:31
  paying
• 24:32
  for.
• 24:32
  And
• 24:32
  so
• 24:33
  I
• 24:33
  narrowed
• 24:34
  it
• 24:34
  down
• 24:34
  to
• 24:35
  his
• 24:35
  name
• 24:35
  is
• 24:35
  P
• 24:35
  S
• 24:35
  Brooks,
• 24:37
  and
• 24:37
  they
• 24:37
  both
• 24:38
  drew
• 24:38
  my.
• 24:39
  He
• 24:39
  and
• 24:39
  the
• 24:39
  other
• 24:40
  artists
• 24:40
  both
• 24:40
  drew
• 24:41
  pictures
• 24:41
  of
• 24:41
  my
• 24:42
  main
• 24:42
  character.
• 24:42
  They
• 24:43
  were
• 24:43
  both
• 24:43
  really
• 24:43
  great.
• 24:44
  And
• 24:44
  which
• 24:44
  almost
• 24:45
  made
• 24:45
  it
• 24:45
  harder
• 24:45
  because
• 24:46
  I
• 24:46
  was
• 24:46
  hoping
• 24:47
  one
• 24:47
  of
• 24:47
  them
• 24:47
  would
• 24:47
  just
• 24:48
  be
• 24:48
  like,
• 24:48
  oh,
• 24:48
  no,
• 24:48
  that's
• 24:49
  not
• 24:49
  the
• 24:49
  language.
• 24:50
  But
• 24:50
  they
• 24:50
  were
• 24:50
  both
• 24:51
  so
• 24:52
  good.
• 24:52
  And
• 24:52
  so
• 24:52
  it
• 24:52
  was
• 24:53
  really
• 24:53
  hard.
• 24:53
  But
• 24:54
  I
• 24:54
  just
• 24:54
  narrowed
• 24:55
  it
• 24:55
  down
• 24:55
  to
• 24:55
  P.S.
• 24:56
  brooks,
• 24:56
  and
• 24:57
  he
• 24:57
  did
• 24:57
  a
• 24:57
  phenomenal
• 24:58
  job.
• 24:58
  Yeah,
• 24:59
  very
• 24:59
  nice.
• 24:59
  So
• 25:00
  I
• 25:00
  always
• 25:01
  ask
• 25:01
  this
• 25:02
  of
• 25:02
  children's
• 25:03
  book
• 25:03
  authors
• 25:03
  that
• 25:04
  have
• 25:04
  been
• 25:04
  on
• 25:04
  the
• 25:04
  show
• 25:05
  that
• 25:05
  have
• 25:06
  multiple
• 25:07
  children's
• 25:07
  books
• 25:08
  published.
• 25:09
  And
• 25:10
  so
• 25:10
  I
• 25:11
  know
• 25:11
  you're
• 25:11
  working
• 25:12
  on
• 25:12
  a
• 25:12
  second
• 25:12
  book.
• 25:13
  Would
• 25:13
  you
• 25:13
  use
• 25:14
  the
• 25:14
  same
• 25:14
  illustrator?
• 25:15
  Yes,
• 25:16
  I
• 25:16
  would.
• 25:16
  I
• 25:17
  would
• 25:17
  use
• 25:17
  his
• 25:17
  work
• 25:17
  for
• 25:18
  any
• 25:18
  book
• 25:18
  he's.
• 25:18
  He's
• 25:19
  done
• 25:19
  really
• 25:19
  great.
• 25:20
  I
• 25:20
  do
• 25:20
  have
• 25:20
  to
• 25:20
  say
• 25:21
  I
• 25:21
  think
• 25:21
  I
• 25:22
  enjoy
• 25:22
  his
• 25:22
  illustrations
• 25:23
  of
• 25:24
  animals
• 25:25
  more
• 25:25
  than
• 25:25
  his.
• 25:26
  And
• 25:26
  his
• 25:26
  illustrations
• 25:27
  of
• 25:27
  people
• 25:27
  are
• 25:28
  great,
• 25:28
  too.
• 25:28
  They're
• 25:29
  really
• 25:29
  great.
• 25:29
  But
• 25:29
  for
• 25:30
  my
• 25:30
  style.
• 25:30
  I
• 25:31
  love
• 25:31
  his
• 25:31
  style
• 25:32
  of
• 25:32
  animals.
• 25:33
  And
• 25:33
  then
• 25:33
  I've
• 25:34
  seen
• 25:34
  other
• 25:34
  illustrators
• 25:35
  who
• 25:35
  maybe
• 25:36
  I
• 25:36
  Enjoy
• 25:36
  their
• 25:36
  style
• 25:37
  of
• 25:37
  people
• 25:38
  better,
• 25:38
  if
• 25:39
  that
• 25:39
  makes
• 25:39
  sense.
• 25:39
  So.
• 25:40
  Right.
• 25:40
  I
• 25:40
  would
• 25:40
  be
• 25:41
  opposed
• 25:41
  to
• 25:41
  using
• 25:42
  him
• 25:42
  again
• 25:42
  because
• 25:42
  he.
• 25:43
  Again,
• 25:44
  he
• 25:44
  did
• 25:44
  such
• 25:44
  a
• 25:44
  great
• 25:44
  job.
• 25:45
  He
• 25:45
  added
• 25:45
  so
• 25:45
  much
• 25:46
  beautiful
• 25:46
  detail
• 25:47
  to
• 25:47
  it.
• 25:47
  Nice.
• 25:48
  You
• 25:48
  know
• 25:48
  what?
• 25:48
  The
• 25:49
  illustrator
• 25:49
  that
• 25:50
  we
• 25:50
  use
• 25:50
  is
• 25:50
  out
• 25:51
  of
• 25:51
  England,
• 25:52
  believe
• 25:52
  it
• 25:52
  or
• 25:53
  not.
• 25:53
  Our
• 25:53
  book
• 25:53
  is
• 25:54
  called
• 25:54
  the
• 25:54
  Adventures
• 25:55
  of
• 25:55
  Caboose
• 25:55
  the
• 25:56
  Rocky
• 25:56
  Mountain
• 25:56
  Bear.
• 25:57
  We
• 25:57
  actually
• 25:58
  have
• 25:59
  people
• 26:00
  and
• 26:00
  animals
• 26:01
  living
• 26:01
  together
• 26:01
  in
• 26:02
  a
• 26:02
  community.
• 26:04
  We
• 26:04
  needed
• 26:04
  an
• 26:04
  illustrator
• 26:05
  that
• 26:05
  the
• 26:06
  balance
• 26:06
  was
• 26:06
  there
• 26:07
  between
• 26:07
  what
• 26:08
  animals
• 26:09
  look
• 26:09
  like
• 26:10
  and
• 26:10
  the
• 26:10
  humans
• 26:11
  look
• 26:11
  like.
• 26:11
  He
• 26:12
  was
• 26:12
  able
• 26:12
  to
• 26:12
  accomplish
• 26:13
  that.
• 26:13
  But
• 26:14
  it's
• 26:14
  interesting.
• 26:14
  That's
• 26:15
  why
• 26:15
  I
• 26:15
  always
• 26:15
  talked
• 26:16
  about
• 26:16
  illustrators
• 26:17
  is.
• 26:18
  It
• 26:18
  seems
• 26:18
  to
• 26:18
  me
• 26:19
  most
• 26:19
  cases
• 26:20
  it
• 26:20
  has
• 26:20
  to
• 26:21
  match
• 26:21
  what
• 26:21
  you're
• 26:22
  trying
• 26:22
  to
• 26:22
  convey.
• 26:23
  Because
• 26:24
  I've
• 26:24
  had
• 26:25
  some
• 26:25
  authors
• 26:25
  have
• 26:26
  up
• 26:26
  to
• 26:26
  three
• 26:26
  or
• 26:26
  four
• 26:27
  illustrators
• 26:28
  and
• 26:28
  at
• 26:28
  first
• 26:28
  I
• 26:28
  thought
• 26:29
  there
• 26:29
  was
• 26:29
  maybe
• 26:29
  an
• 26:29
  issue
• 26:30
  with
• 26:30
  the
• 26:30
  illustrator,
• 26:31
  but
• 26:31
  it
• 26:31
  wasn't.
• 26:31
  It
• 26:32
  was
• 26:33
  their
• 26:33
  ability
• 26:34
  to
• 26:35
  match
• 26:35
  what
• 26:36
  the
• 26:36
  author
• 26:37
  had
• 26:37
  in
• 26:37
  mind.
• 26:38
  And
• 26:39
  some
• 26:39
  did.
• 26:40
  Just
• 26:40
  did
• 26:40
  it
• 26:40
  better
• 26:40
  than
• 26:41
  others
• 26:41
  in
• 26:41
  terms
• 26:42
  of.
• 26:42
  For
• 26:42
  that
• 26:43
  instance.
• 26:43
  Yeah.
• 26:44
  Coordinate
• 26:45
  with
• 26:45
  your.
• 26:46
  Absolutely.
• 26:47
  So
• 26:48
  we
• 26:48
  talked
• 26:49
  a
• 26:49
  little
• 26:49
  bit
• 26:49
  about
• 26:49
  your
• 26:50
  website.
• 26:50
  Which
• 26:51
  came
• 26:51
  first,
• 26:51
  your
• 26:52
  website
• 26:53
  or
• 26:53
  your
• 26:53
  published
• 26:54
  book?
• 26:55
  I
• 26:55
  started
• 26:55
  working
• 26:55
  on
• 26:56
  my
• 26:56
  website
• 26:56
  before
• 26:57
  the
• 26:57
  book
• 26:57
  was
• 26:58
  officially
• 26:58
  published,
• 26:59
  if
• 26:59
  I
• 26:59
  remember
• 26:59
  right.
• 27:00
  I'm
• 27:00
  trying
• 27:00
  to
• 27:01
  remember
• 27:01
  back,
• 27:01
  but
• 27:01
  I
• 27:02
  had
• 27:02
  it
• 27:02
  pretty
• 27:02
  much
• 27:03
  set
• 27:03
  up.
• 27:03
  I
• 27:04
  don't
• 27:04
  believe
• 27:05
  I
• 27:05
  actually
• 27:05
  published
• 27:06
  it.
• 27:07
  I
• 27:07
  was
• 27:07
  working
• 27:08
  on
• 27:08
  it
• 27:08
  in
• 27:08
  the
• 27:08
  background
• 27:09
  and
• 27:09
  then
• 27:10
  I
• 27:10
  officially
• 27:11
  published
• 27:11
  it
• 27:11
  once
• 27:12
  the
• 27:12
  book
• 27:12
  was
• 27:12
  published.
• 27:13
  Okay.
• 27:13
  And
• 27:14
  I
• 27:14
  noticed
• 27:14
  you
• 27:14
  use
• 27:15
  some
• 27:15
  of
• 27:15
  the
• 27:15
  graphics
• 27:16
  from
• 27:16
  your.
• 27:17
  From
• 27:17
  your
• 27:18
  book
• 27:18
  and
• 27:19
  incorporated
• 27:20
  into
• 27:20
  your
• 27:21
  website,
• 27:21
  Correct?
• 27:22
  Yes.
• 27:23
  Okay.
• 27:23
  And
• 27:23
  the
• 27:24
  reason
• 27:24
  I
• 27:24
  talk
• 27:24
  about
• 27:24
  that
• 27:25
  is
• 27:25
  that
• 27:26
  the
• 27:26
  one
• 27:26
  thing
• 27:27
  that
• 27:27
  I
• 27:28
  found,
• 27:29
  and
• 27:29
  it's
• 27:29
  interesting
• 27:30
  because
• 27:30
  next,
• 27:31
  next
• 27:31
  Tuesday,
• 27:31
  I
• 27:32
  actually
• 27:32
  have
• 27:33
  a
• 27:33
  website
• 27:34
  designer
• 27:34
  coming
• 27:35
  on
• 27:35
  as
• 27:35
  a
• 27:35
  guest
• 27:37
  and
• 27:37
  he's
• 27:38
  from
• 27:38
  Buffalo,
• 27:39
  New
• 27:39
  York.
• 27:39
  We
• 27:39
  got
• 27:40
  into
• 27:40
  the
• 27:41
  importance
• 27:41
  of
• 27:42
  a
• 27:42
  website
• 27:42
  because
• 27:43
  to
• 27:44
  your
• 27:44
  point,
• 27:45
  you
• 27:45
  know,
• 27:45
  whether
• 27:46
  you
• 27:46
  look
• 27:46
  at
• 27:46
  Instagram
• 27:47
  or
• 27:47
  Facebook
• 27:48
  or
• 27:48
  LinkedIn
• 27:49
  or
• 27:49
  any
• 27:49
  of
• 27:50
  the
• 27:50
  social
• 27:50
  media
• 27:51
  platforms.
• 27:51
  TikTok.
• 27:52
  The
• 27:53
  thing
• 27:53
  is,
• 27:53
  you
• 27:53
  don't
• 27:54
  own
• 27:54
  those.
• 27:55
  You're
• 27:55
  just
• 27:55
  a
• 27:55
  visitor
• 27:56
  or
• 27:57
  a
• 27:57
  renter,
• 27:58
  depending
• 27:58
  if
• 27:58
  you
• 27:58
  pay
• 27:59
  for
• 27:59
  services,
• 28:00
  then
• 28:00
  you're
• 28:00
  a
• 28:00
  renter.
• 28:01
  But
• 28:01
  they
• 28:01
  have
• 28:02
  total
• 28:02
  control.
• 28:03
  So
• 28:03
  if
• 28:03
  they
• 28:03
  decide
• 28:04
  they
• 28:04
  don't
• 28:04
  like
• 28:04
  your
• 28:04
  posts
• 28:05
  or
• 28:05
  whatever,
• 28:06
  they
• 28:06
  can
• 28:06
  take
• 28:06
  you
• 28:07
  down
• 28:07
  and
• 28:07
  you've
• 28:08
  lost
• 28:08
  your
• 28:08
  audience.
• 28:09
  Versus
• 28:10
  when
• 28:10
  you
• 28:10
  have
• 28:11
  your
• 28:11
  own
• 28:11
  website,
• 28:12
  it's
• 28:12
  yours
• 28:13
  and
• 28:13
  as
• 28:13
  you
• 28:13
  collect
• 28:14
  email
• 28:15
  addresses,
• 28:16
  it's
• 28:16
  your
• 28:17
  property.
• 28:18
  Yes.
• 28:18
  Yeah,
• 28:19
  that's
• 28:19
  a
• 28:19
  good
• 28:20
  point.
• 28:20
  And
• 28:20
  I
• 28:20
  do
• 28:21
  like
• 28:21
  that
• 28:21
  aspect
• 28:22
  of
• 28:23
  having
• 28:23
  our
• 28:23
  website.
• 28:24
  I
• 28:25
  think
• 28:25
  that's
• 28:25
  one
• 28:25
  way
• 28:25
  for
• 28:26
  you
• 28:26
  to
• 28:26
  get
• 28:26
  around
• 28:27
  the
• 28:27
  social
• 28:28
  media
• 28:28
  in
• 28:28
  a
• 28:28
  way
• 28:29
  is
• 28:29
  promote
• 28:29
  your
• 28:30
  website
• 28:30
  more
• 28:30
  and
• 28:31
  hopefully
• 28:31
  build
• 28:32
  a
• 28:32
  following
• 28:32
  through
• 28:33
  your
• 28:33
  website.
• 28:34
  When
• 28:34
  you
• 28:34
  looked
• 28:35
  at
• 28:35
  your
• 28:35
  website,
• 28:36
  did
• 28:36
  you
• 28:37
  have
• 28:37
  help
• 28:37
  or
• 28:37
  did
• 28:37
  you
• 28:38
  do
• 28:38
  it
• 28:38
  on
• 28:38
  your
• 28:38
  own?
• 28:39
  I
• 28:39
  did
• 28:39
  it
• 28:39
  on
• 28:39
  my
• 28:40
  own.
• 28:40
  It's
• 28:41
  not
• 28:41
  as
• 28:41
  aesthetically
• 28:42
  pleasing
• 28:42
  as
• 28:42
  some
• 28:43
  other
• 28:43
  websites,
• 28:43
  but
• 28:44
  I
• 28:44
  go
• 28:45
  it's
• 28:45
  through
• 28:45
  GoDaddy.
• 28:47
  And
• 28:47
  they
• 28:48
  make
• 28:48
  it
• 28:48
  really
• 28:48
  easy,
• 28:49
  and
• 28:49
  they
• 28:49
  make
• 28:50
  it
• 28:50
  very
• 28:50
  doable
• 28:51
  for
• 28:51
  those
• 28:52
  of
• 28:52
  us
• 28:52
  who
• 28:52
  are
• 28:52
  not
• 28:53
  tech
• 28:54
  gurus.
• 28:54
  Right.
• 28:55
  And
• 28:55
  so
• 28:55
  I.
• 28:56
  That's
• 28:56
  what
• 28:56
  I
• 28:56
  liked
• 28:57
  about
• 28:57
  it.
• 28:57
  And
• 28:58
  I
• 28:59
  felt
• 28:59
  like,
• 28:59
  for
• 28:59
  me,
• 29:00
  it
• 29:00
  was
• 29:00
  good
• 29:00
  enough.
• 29:00
  I
• 29:00
  felt
• 29:01
  like
• 29:01
  it
• 29:01
  was
• 29:01
  what
• 29:01
  I
• 29:01
  was
• 29:01
  looking
• 29:02
  for.
• 29:02
  Maybe
• 29:03
  in
• 29:03
  the
• 29:03
  future
• 29:04
  I
• 29:05
  will
• 29:06
  pay
• 29:06
  to
• 29:06
  have
• 29:07
  someone
• 29:08
  do
• 29:08
  a
• 29:08
  better
• 29:08
  job
• 29:09
  for
• 29:09
  me
• 29:09
  than
• 29:09
  I
• 29:09
  did
• 29:10
  on
• 29:10
  my
• 29:10
  own,
• 29:10
  But
• 29:11
  I
• 29:11
  was
• 29:11
  already
• 29:11
  putting
• 29:12
  so
• 29:12
  much
• 29:12
  money
• 29:13
  into
• 29:13
  the
• 29:13
  book
• 29:13
  itself
• 29:14
  that
• 29:14
  I
• 29:14
  felt
• 29:14
  like
• 29:15
  this
• 29:15
  is
• 29:15
  something
• 29:15
  I
• 29:15
  can
• 29:15
  do
• 29:16
  on
• 29:16
  my
• 29:16
  own.
• 29:16
  And
• 29:16
  again,
• 29:17
  GoDaddy
• 29:17
  made
• 29:17
  it
• 29:18
  very
• 29:18
  easy
• 29:18
  to
• 29:19
  do
• 29:20
  on
• 29:20
  my
• 29:20
  own.
• 29:20
  On
• 29:21
  this
• 29:21
  upcoming
• 29:22
  episode
• 29:22
  that
• 29:22
  I
• 29:23
  have
• 29:23
  next
• 29:23
  week
• 29:23
  on
• 29:24
  Website
• 29:24
  development,
• 29:25
  episode
• 29:26
  31
• 29:26
  with
• 29:26
  David
• 29:27
  Servey.
• 29:27
  And
• 29:27
  it's
• 29:27
  interesting
• 29:28
  because
• 29:28
  we
• 29:28
  talk
• 29:28
  about
• 29:29
  building
• 29:30
  your
• 29:30
  website
• 29:30
  around
• 29:31
  your
• 29:31
  book
• 29:31
  brand
• 29:32
  or
• 29:33
  building
• 29:33
  your
• 29:34
  website
• 29:34
  around
• 29:35
  your
• 29:35
  author
• 29:36
  brand.
• 29:37
  So
• 29:37
  you
• 29:37
  chose
• 29:37
  to
• 29:38
  build
• 29:38
  yours
• 29:38
  around
• 29:38
  your
• 29:39
  author
• 29:39
  brand,
• 29:39
  correct?
• 29:40
  Yes.
• 29:41
  Yes.
• 29:42
  In
• 29:42
  our
• 29:43
  case,
• 29:43
  because
• 29:43
  ours
• 29:44
  is
• 29:44
  called
• 29:44
  the
• 29:44
  Adventures
• 29:45
  of
• 29:45
  Caboose
• 29:45
  the
• 29:46
  Rocky
• 29:46
  Mountain
• 29:46
  Bear,
• 29:47
  we
• 29:47
  have
• 29:48
  multiple
• 29:48
  stories
• 29:49
  written
• 29:49
  with
• 29:49
  my
• 29:50
  grandchildren.
• 29:51
  38
• 29:52
  stories.
• 29:53
  Wow.
• 29:54
  We
• 29:54
  don't
• 29:54
  have
• 29:54
  38
• 29:55
  books,
• 29:55
  but
• 29:55
  we
• 29:55
  have
• 29:56
  38
• 29:56
  stories,
• 29:56
  and
• 29:57
  they're
• 29:57
  all
• 29:57
  Adventures
• 29:58
  of
• 29:58
  Caboose
• 29:59
  or
• 30:00
  Caboose's
• 30:00
  Community
• 30:01
  or
• 30:01
  Family
• 30:02
  and
• 30:02
  Friends.
• 30:03
  That's
• 30:03
  so
• 30:04
  fun.
• 30:04
  Everybody
• 30:05
  does
• 30:05
  it
• 30:05
  a
• 30:05
  little
• 30:05
  differently.
• 30:06
  I
• 30:06
  just
• 30:06
  want
• 30:06
  everybody
• 30:07
  to
• 30:07
  understand
• 30:07
  that
• 30:08
  I
• 30:08
  don't
• 30:08
  think
• 30:09
  there's
• 30:09
  any
• 30:09
  right
• 30:09
  or
• 30:10
  wrong
• 30:10
  answer
• 30:10
  in
• 30:11
  terms
• 30:11
  of
• 30:12
  as
• 30:12
  long
• 30:12
  as
• 30:12
  you
• 30:12
  know
• 30:13
  what
• 30:13
  you're
• 30:13
  doing
• 30:13
  in
• 30:14
  terms
• 30:14
  of
• 30:14
  branding
• 30:15
  and
• 30:15
  why
• 30:15
  you're
• 30:15
  doing
• 30:15
  it,
• 30:16
  that's
• 30:16
  the
• 30:17
  most
• 30:17
  important
• 30:17
  piece.
• 30:18
  And
• 30:18
  I
• 30:18
  feel
• 30:19
  like
• 30:19
  it
• 30:19
  would
• 30:19
  make
• 30:19
  more
• 30:19
  sense
• 30:20
  to
• 30:21
  build
• 30:21
  it
• 30:21
  around
• 30:21
  the
• 30:22
  book
• 30:22
  if
• 30:23
  you
• 30:23
  have
• 30:23
  a
• 30:23
  series.
• 30:24
  I
• 30:24
  wasn't
• 30:24
  planning
• 30:25
  on
• 30:25
  making
• 30:26
  this
• 30:26
  book
• 30:26
  a
• 30:27
  series,
• 30:27
  so
• 30:27
  that's
• 30:28
  why
• 30:28
  I
• 30:28
  wanted
• 30:28
  to
• 30:28
  just
• 30:29
  build
• 30:29
  it
• 30:29
  around
• 30:29
  my
• 30:29
  author
• 30:30
  name.
• 30:30
  And
• 30:31
  I
• 30:31
  find
• 30:31
  that
• 30:31
  with
• 30:31
  a
• 30:32
  lot
• 30:32
  of
• 30:32
  children's
• 30:32
  book
• 30:33
  authors,
• 30:33
  they
• 30:33
  have,
• 30:34
  they
• 30:34
  might
• 30:34
  have.
• 30:35
  Like,
• 30:35
  one
• 30:35
  of
• 30:35
  my
• 30:36
  first
• 30:36
  guests,
• 30:36
  Darcy
• 30:37
  Guy,
• 30:37
  had
• 30:38
  three
• 30:38
  books
• 30:38
  in
• 30:38
  this
• 30:39
  book
• 30:39
  series,
• 30:40
  but
• 30:40
  he
• 30:40
  had
• 30:41
  another
• 30:42
  idea
• 30:42
  for
• 30:42
  another
• 30:43
  book.
• 30:44
  That's
• 30:44
  why
• 30:44
  he
• 30:45
  kept
• 30:45
  it
• 30:45
  in
• 30:45
  his
• 30:45
  author's
• 30:46
  name,
• 30:46
  because
• 30:47
  the
• 30:47
  fourth
• 30:48
  book
• 30:48
  was
• 30:48
  not
• 30:49
  part
• 30:49
  of
• 30:49
  the
• 30:49
  book.
• 30:50
  His
• 30:50
  first
• 30:50
  three
• 30:51
  books
• 30:51
  that
• 30:52
  were
• 30:52
  in
• 30:52
  a
• 30:52
  series,
• 30:53
  you
• 30:53
  really
• 30:53
  have
• 30:53
  to
• 30:53
  think
• 30:53
  it
• 30:54
  through.
• 30:54
  So
• 30:54
  that's
• 30:54
  why
• 30:54
  I
• 30:55
  like
• 30:55
  bringing
• 30:55
  it
• 30:56
  up
• 30:56
  on
• 30:56
  the
• 30:56
  show
• 30:57
  so
• 30:57
  people
• 30:57
  understand
• 30:58
  the
• 30:58
  internal
• 30:59
  struggles
• 31:00
  that
• 31:00
  we
• 31:00
  all
• 31:00
  have
• 31:01
  on
• 31:01
  deciding
• 31:02
  what
• 31:02
  do
• 31:02
  we
• 31:03
  do
• 31:03
  here.
• 31:03
  And
• 31:03
  if
• 31:04
  you
• 31:04
  decide
• 31:04
  to
• 31:04
  rebrand
• 31:05
  Later.
• 31:05
  Is
• 31:05
  that
• 31:06
  going
• 31:06
  to
• 31:06
  be
• 31:07
  hurtful
• 31:07
  ultimately
• 31:08
  to
• 31:08
  your
• 31:09
  following
• 31:09
  or,
• 31:10
  you
• 31:10
  know,
• 31:10
  have
• 31:10
  to
• 31:11
  consider
• 31:11
  all
• 31:11
  that?
• 31:12
  Absolutely.
• 31:13
  We
• 31:13
  talked
• 31:13
  about
• 31:14
  inspiration
• 31:15
  behind
• 31:15
  your
• 31:15
  book.
• 31:16
  What
• 31:16
  about
• 31:16
  motivation?
• 31:17
  Was
• 31:18
  there
• 31:19
  one
• 31:19
  specific
• 31:20
  person
• 31:21
  or
• 31:21
  event
• 31:22
  that
• 31:22
  you
• 31:23
  said,
• 31:23
  you
• 31:24
  know
• 31:24
  what,
• 31:25
  I'm
• 31:25
  a
• 31:25
  children's
• 31:26
  book
• 31:26
  author,
• 31:27
  Tell
• 31:27
  us
• 31:27
  about
• 31:28
  that.
• 31:29
  So
• 31:29
  I,
• 31:30
  I
• 31:30
  would
• 31:30
  say
• 31:30
  it
• 31:30
  started
• 31:30
  when
• 31:31
  I
• 31:31
  became
• 31:31
  a
• 31:31
  mom
• 31:32
  and
• 31:32
  I
• 31:33
  began
• 31:33
  reading
• 31:34
  to
• 31:34
  my
• 31:34
  oldest
• 31:35
  son
• 31:35
  and
• 31:36
  we
• 31:36
  were
• 31:36
  just
• 31:36
  building
• 31:37
  our
• 31:37
  own
• 31:37
  little
• 31:38
  collection
• 31:38
  of
• 31:38
  books.
• 31:39
  I
• 31:39
  remember
• 31:40
  reading
• 31:41
  Sandra
• 31:41
  Boynton's
• 31:43
  Moobala
• 31:44
  to
• 31:45
  him
• 31:45
  quite
• 31:45
  often
• 31:46
  and
• 31:47
  of
• 31:47
  course,
• 31:47
  the
• 31:47
  Dr.
• 31:48
  Seuss
• 31:48
  classics.
• 31:49
  And
• 31:49
  I
• 31:49
  remember
• 31:50
  just
• 31:50
  thinking,
• 31:51
  this
• 31:51
  would
• 31:51
  be
• 31:52
  such
• 31:52
  a
• 31:52
  fun
• 31:52
  career
• 31:53
  to
• 31:53
  be
• 31:53
  able
• 31:54
  to
• 31:55
  write
• 31:55
  these
• 31:55
  books
• 31:56
  and
• 31:57
  books
• 31:57
  that
• 31:57
  make
• 31:58
  kids
• 31:58
  laugh.
• 31:58
  And
• 31:58
  it's
• 31:59
  funny
• 31:59
  because
• 31:59
  people,
• 32:00
  some
• 32:00
  people
• 32:00
  will
• 32:01
  say
• 32:01
  that
• 32:02
  they
• 32:02
  don't
• 32:02
  appreciate
• 32:03
  the.
• 32:03
  Just
• 32:03
  the
• 32:03
  silly
• 32:04
  nonsense
• 32:04
  books,
• 32:05
  but
• 32:05
  I
• 32:06
  appreciate
• 32:06
  it
• 32:06
  all.
• 32:06
  I
• 32:07
  think
• 32:07
  it's
• 32:07
  so
• 32:07
  fun.
• 32:07
  I
• 32:08
  love
• 32:08
  the
• 32:08
  books
• 32:08
  that
• 32:08
  have
• 32:09
  deeper
• 32:09
  meaning
• 32:09
  for
• 32:10
  kids,
• 32:10
  but
• 32:10
  I
• 32:10
  also
• 32:11
  love
• 32:11
  just
• 32:11
  the
• 32:12
  silly
• 32:13
  books
• 32:13
  that
• 32:13
  make
• 32:13
  kids
• 32:14
  laugh.
• 32:14
  And
• 32:14
  so
• 32:14
  that
• 32:15
  was
• 32:15
  kind
• 32:15
  of
• 32:15
  my
• 32:15
  motivation
• 32:16
  was
• 32:16
  reading
• 32:17
  with
• 32:17
  my
• 32:17
  son.
• 32:18
  And
• 32:19
  so
• 32:19
  I
• 32:19
  had
• 32:19
  it
• 32:19
  in
• 32:19
  my
• 32:20
  mind
• 32:20
  that
• 32:20
  I
• 32:21
  would
• 32:21
  someday
• 32:21
  do
• 32:22
  this.
• 32:22
  And
• 32:22
  it
• 32:22
  was
• 32:22
  interesting
• 32:23
  because
• 32:23
  I
• 32:23
  was
• 32:24
  on.
• 32:24
  I
• 32:25
  was
• 32:25
  actually
• 32:25
  on
• 32:25
  an
• 32:25
  airplane
• 32:26
  and
• 32:26
  my
• 32:26
  assigned
• 32:27
  seat
• 32:27
  was
• 32:27
  next
• 32:27
  to
• 32:28
  this
• 32:28
  woman
• 32:29
  who
• 32:29
  was
• 32:29
  in
• 32:29
  the
• 32:30
  Peace
• 32:30
  Corps.
• 32:30
  And
• 32:31
  she.
• 32:31
  We
• 32:32
  started,
• 32:32
  we
• 32:32
  began
• 32:32
  talking
• 32:33
  and
• 32:33
  she
• 32:33
  was
• 32:33
  very
• 32:33
  inspirational
• 32:34
  to
• 32:34
  me.
• 32:34
  And
• 32:35
  she
• 32:36
  was
• 32:37
  asking
• 32:37
  me
• 32:37
  about
• 32:38
  going
• 32:38
  goals
• 32:38
  in
• 32:38
  my
• 32:38
  life.
• 32:39
  And
• 32:39
  I
• 32:39
  told
• 32:39
  her,
• 32:39
  I
• 32:39
  want
• 32:40
  to
• 32:40
  write
• 32:40
  a
• 32:40
  children's
• 32:40
  book.
• 32:41
  I
• 32:41
  told
• 32:41
  her
• 32:41
  I
• 32:41
  actually
• 32:42
  wanted
• 32:42
  to
• 32:42
  write
• 32:42
  and
• 32:42
  illustrate
• 32:43
  it.
• 32:43
  I'm
• 32:44
  not
• 32:44
  an
• 32:44
  artist,
• 32:45
  but
• 32:45
  it's
• 32:46
  my
• 32:46
  goal
• 32:46
  someday
• 32:47
  to
• 32:47
  become
• 32:47
  one.
• 32:48
  And
• 32:48
  so
• 32:49
  anyway,
• 32:49
  I
• 32:49
  told
• 32:50
  her
• 32:50
  this
• 32:50
  and
• 32:50
  she
• 32:51
  said
• 32:51
  before
• 32:51
  we
• 32:51
  carted
• 32:52
  our
• 32:52
  ways
• 32:52
  after
• 32:52
  the
• 32:53
  flight,
• 32:53
  she
• 32:53
  said,
• 32:53
  I
• 32:54
  hope
• 32:54
  someday
• 32:54
  we
• 32:54
  run
• 32:55
  into
• 32:55
  each
• 32:55
  other
• 32:55
  again
• 32:56
  and
• 32:57
  you
• 32:57
  will
• 32:57
  have
• 32:57
  fulfilled
• 32:58
  that
• 32:58
  dream
• 32:58
  and
• 32:58
  you
• 32:59
  can
• 32:59
  tell
• 32:59
  me
• 32:59
  about
• 32:59
  it.
• 33:00
  And
• 33:00
  so
• 33:00
  it
• 33:01
  was
• 33:01
  just
• 33:01
  a
• 33:01
  touching
• 33:01
  moment.
• 33:02
  And
• 33:02
  I
• 33:02
  thought,
• 33:02
  you
• 33:02
  know
• 33:02
  what?
• 33:02
  I'm
• 33:03
  going
• 33:03
  to
• 33:03
  do
• 33:03
  this.
• 33:04
  I'm
• 33:04
  really
• 33:04
  going
• 33:04
  to
• 33:05
  make
• 33:05
  this
• 33:06
  happen.
• 33:06
  So
• 33:06
  did
• 33:06
  you
• 33:06
  track
• 33:06
  her
• 33:07
  down?
• 33:07
  No.
• 33:08
  I
• 33:08
  didn't
• 33:09
  even
• 33:09
  get
• 33:09
  her
• 33:10
  contact
• 33:10
  info,
• 33:11
  but
• 33:11
  she
• 33:11
  was
• 33:11
  a
• 33:12
  source
• 33:12
  of
• 33:12
  inspiration
• 33:13
  to
• 33:13
  me
• 33:13
  and
• 33:13
  helping
• 33:14
  me
• 33:14
  realize,
• 33:14
  you
• 33:15
  can
• 33:15
  do
• 33:15
  this,
• 33:15
  you
• 33:16
  should
• 33:16
  do
• 33:16
  it.
• 33:16
  And
• 33:16
  what
• 33:17
  was
• 33:17
  her
• 33:17
  first
• 33:17
  name?
• 33:17
  Do
• 33:18
  you
• 33:18
  remember?
• 33:19
  I
• 33:19
  do
• 33:19
  not
• 33:19
  even
• 33:19
  remember.
• 33:20
  Oh,
• 33:20
  okay.
• 33:21
  I
• 33:21
  know
• 33:21
  I
• 33:22
  should
• 33:22
  have
• 33:22
  gotten
• 33:22
  her
• 33:23
  contact
• 33:23
  info.
• 33:24
  This
• 33:24
  was.
• 33:25
  Man,
• 33:25
  this
• 33:26
  was
• 33:26
  almost
• 33:26
  10
• 33:26
  years
• 33:26
  ago.
• 33:27
  No
• 33:27
  problem
• 33:28
  teasing
• 33:29
  you.
• 33:29
  I
• 33:29
  thought
• 33:29
  maybe
• 33:30
  through
• 33:30
  this
• 33:31
  magic
• 33:31
  of
• 33:31
  the
• 33:31
  digital
• 33:32
  world,
• 33:33
  someone
• 33:33
  in
• 33:33
  the
• 33:33
  Peace
• 33:34
  Corps
• 33:34
  would
• 33:34
  realize
• 33:35
  that
• 33:36
  they
• 33:36
  had
• 33:36
  inspired
• 33:37
  you
• 33:37
  to
• 33:37
  actually
• 33:38
  get
• 33:39
  your
• 33:39
  book
• 33:39
  to
• 33:39
  market.
• 33:40
  Yes.
• 33:42
  Hopefully
• 33:42
  someday.
• 33:43
  Someday
• 33:43
  I'll
• 33:44
  run
• 33:44
  into
• 33:44
  her
• 33:44
  again
• 33:45
  by
• 33:46
  fate.
• 33:46
  I
• 33:47
  want
• 33:47
  to
• 33:47
  talk
• 33:47
  a
• 33:47
  Bit
• 33:47
  about
• 33:48
  character
• 33:48
  development.
• 33:49
  Many
• 33:50
  books
• 33:50
  have
• 33:50
  one
• 33:51
  main
• 33:51
  character,
• 33:51
  and
• 33:52
  in
• 33:52
  your
• 33:52
  book,
• 33:52
  the
• 33:52
  Chickadee,
• 33:53
  who
• 33:53
  knew
• 33:54
  your
• 33:54
  main
• 33:54
  character
• 33:55
  is
• 33:55
  Finn
• 33:56
  and
• 33:57
  his
• 33:57
  interactions
• 33:58
  with
• 33:58
  others,
• 33:58
  which
• 33:59
  there's
• 33:59
  lots
• 33:59
  of
• 34:00
  interaction.
• 34:01
  So
• 34:01
  tell
• 34:01
  us
• 34:02
  why
• 34:02
  you
• 34:02
  took
• 34:03
  this
• 34:03
  approach
• 34:03
  and
• 34:04
  how
• 34:04
  did
• 34:04
  you
• 34:04
  do
• 34:04
  Finn's
• 34:05
  character
• 34:06
  development?
• 34:07
  I
• 34:07
  took
• 34:07
  it
• 34:07
  again
• 34:08
  for
• 34:08
  myself.
• 34:08
  I
• 34:08
  pulled
• 34:09
  out
• 34:09
  that
• 34:09
  little
• 34:09
  bit
• 34:09
  of
• 34:09
  pessimist
• 34:10
  inside
• 34:10
  of
• 34:10
  me
• 34:11
  and
• 34:11
  said,
• 34:11
  this
• 34:11
  is
• 34:11
  going
• 34:11
  to
• 34:11
  be
• 34:12
  Finn.
• 34:13
  And
• 34:13
  then
• 34:14
  I.
• 34:15
  But
• 34:15
  also
• 34:16
  added
• 34:16
  to
• 34:16
  that
• 34:17
  how
• 34:18
  I've
• 34:18
  seen
• 34:18
  myself
• 34:18
  grow
• 34:19
  over
• 34:19
  the
• 34:19
  years
• 34:19
  and
• 34:20
  be
• 34:20
  able
• 34:20
  to
• 34:20
  pull
• 34:20
  myself
• 34:21
  out
• 34:21
  of
• 34:21
  pessimism
• 34:22
  and
• 34:22
  be
• 34:22
  more
• 34:22
  optimist.
• 34:23
  And
• 34:24
  that
• 34:24
  was
• 34:24
  going
• 34:24
  to
• 34:24
  be
• 34:24
  fin
• 34:25
  at
• 34:25
  the
• 34:25
  end
• 34:25
  of
• 34:25
  the
• 34:25
  book.
• 34:26
  Why
• 34:26
  not
• 34:27
  a
• 34:27
  female
• 34:27
  Finn?
• 34:28
  Why
• 34:28
  a
• 34:29
  male
• 34:29
  Finn?
• 34:30
  I
• 34:30
  think
• 34:30
  because
• 34:31
  I
• 34:31
  have
• 34:31
  four
• 34:31
  sons.
• 34:33
  I
• 34:33
  always
• 34:33
  like
• 34:33
  to
• 34:34
  ask
• 34:34
  that
• 34:34
  because
• 34:35
  it's
• 34:35
  helping
• 34:35
  others
• 34:36
  who
• 34:36
  are
• 34:36
  inspiring
• 34:37
  to
• 34:37
  be
• 34:37
  an
• 34:37
  author
• 34:38
  understand
• 34:39
  that
• 34:39
  there's,
• 34:40
  again,
• 34:40
  there's
• 34:41
  different
• 34:41
  reasons
• 34:41
  why
• 34:42
  people
• 34:42
  do
• 34:42
  things,
• 34:43
  and
• 34:43
  I
• 34:43
  just
• 34:43
  like
• 34:43
  to
• 34:43
  get
• 34:43
  a
• 34:44
  little
• 34:44
  deeper.
• 34:44
  So
• 34:45
  having
• 34:45
  four
• 34:46
  sons,
• 34:46
  I
• 34:46
  think
• 34:47
  that
• 34:47
  would
• 34:47
  definitely
• 34:48
  be
• 34:48
  a
• 34:48
  strong
• 34:48
  motivator.
• 34:49
  I
• 34:50
  wanted
• 34:50
  my
• 34:50
  sons
• 34:51
  to
• 34:51
  connect
• 34:51
  with
• 34:51
  the
• 34:51
  book
• 34:52
  and
• 34:52
  with
• 34:52
  the
• 34:52
  character.
• 34:54
  And
• 34:54
  it's
• 34:54
  funny
• 34:55
  because
• 34:55
  at
• 34:55
  one
• 34:55
  point
• 34:55
  I
• 34:55
  remember
• 34:56
  thinking,
• 34:56
  should
• 34:56
  I
• 34:56
  make
• 34:57
  my
• 34:57
  character
• 34:58
  a
• 34:58
  female?
• 34:59
  But
• 34:59
  it
• 34:59
  just
• 34:59
  didn't.
• 35:00
  Never
• 35:00
  even
• 35:00
  crossed
• 35:01
  my
• 35:01
  mind.
• 35:01
  I
• 35:02
  just
• 35:02
  always
• 35:02
  knew
• 35:02
  it
• 35:02
  was
• 35:02
  going
• 35:03
  to
• 35:03
  be
• 35:03
  a
• 35:04
  male
• 35:04
  because
• 35:04
  of
• 35:04
  my
• 35:05
  sons,
• 35:05
  and
• 35:05
  I
• 35:05
  wanted
• 35:06
  to
• 35:06
  have
• 35:06
  that,
• 35:07
  have
• 35:07
  them
• 35:07
  be
• 35:07
  able
• 35:07
  to
• 35:08
  connect
• 35:08
  more
• 35:08
  deeply
• 35:09
  with
• 35:09
  it.
• 35:09
  Now,
• 35:10
  are
• 35:10
  any
• 35:11
  of
• 35:11
  your
• 35:11
  sons
• 35:12
  close
• 35:12
  to
• 35:13
  Finn,
• 35:14
  or
• 35:14
  is
• 35:14
  Finn
• 35:14
  more
• 35:15
  close
• 35:15
  to
• 35:15
  you
• 35:16
  in
• 35:16
  terms
• 35:17
  of
• 35:17
  character?
• 35:17
  It's
• 35:18
  hard
• 35:18
  because
• 35:18
  I
• 35:18
  do
• 35:18
  feel
• 35:18
  like
• 35:19
  I
• 35:19
  try
• 35:19
  to
• 35:19
  make
• 35:20
  Ben's
• 35:21
  character
• 35:21
  relate
• 35:21
  with
• 35:22
  children.
• 35:22
  I
• 35:22
  feel
• 35:22
  like
• 35:23
  a
• 35:23
  lot
• 35:23
  of
• 35:24
  children,
• 35:24
  my
• 35:24
  sons
• 35:25
  included,
• 35:25
  can
• 35:25
  probably
• 35:26
  relate
• 35:26
  to
• 35:27
  the
• 35:27
  whining
• 35:28
  that,
• 35:29
  yeah,
• 35:29
  I
• 35:30
  would
• 35:30
  say
• 35:30
  that
• 35:30
  he
• 35:30
  relates
• 35:31
  to
• 35:31
  my
• 35:31
  sons,
• 35:32
  but
• 35:32
  not
• 35:32
  completely.
• 35:33
  I
• 35:33
  don't
• 35:33
  believe
• 35:34
  we
• 35:34
  all
• 35:34
  have
• 35:35
  moments
• 35:36
  where
• 35:36
  we're
• 35:36
  more
• 35:37
  whiny
• 35:38
  than
• 35:38
  others.
• 35:38
  Absolutely.
• 35:39
  Or
• 35:39
  we're
• 35:40
  more
• 35:40
  grateful.
• 35:40
  And
• 35:41
  so,
• 35:41
  yes,
• 35:42
  aspects
• 35:43
  of
• 35:43
  his
• 35:43
  character
• 35:44
  does
• 35:45
  relate
• 35:45
  to
• 35:46
  my
• 35:47
  boys
• 35:47
  and
• 35:47
  myself
• 35:48
  and
• 35:48
  all
• 35:49
  kids.
• 35:49
  I
• 35:49
  would
• 35:49
  say,
• 35:50
  okay,
• 35:51
  I
• 35:51
  want
• 35:51
  to
• 35:51
  get
• 35:51
  to
• 35:52
  what
• 35:52
  I
• 35:52
  think
• 35:53
  is
• 35:53
  so
• 35:53
  magical,
• 35:54
  what
• 35:54
  you
• 35:54
  did.
• 35:55
  And
• 35:56
  I
• 35:56
  know
• 35:56
  I
• 35:56
  teased
• 35:57
  everybody
• 35:57
  at
• 35:58
  the
• 35:58
  beginning
• 35:58
  of
• 35:58
  the
• 35:58
  show,
• 35:59
  including
• 36:00
  Amber.
• 36:00
  I
• 36:00
  teased
• 36:01
  her
• 36:01
  like,
• 36:01
  what
• 36:01
  am
• 36:02
  I
• 36:02
  doing?
• 36:02
  Special
• 36:03
  and
• 36:03
  magical
• 36:04
  that
• 36:04
  Rick
• 36:05
  hasn't
• 36:05
  seen
• 36:05
  with
• 36:05
  any
• 36:06
  other
• 36:06
  children's
• 36:06
  book
• 36:07
  author
• 36:07
  so
• 36:07
  far.
• 36:08
  And
• 36:09
  when
• 36:09
  I
• 36:09
  looked
• 36:10
  at
• 36:10
  your
• 36:10
  website
• 36:10
  videos
• 36:11
  and
• 36:11
  you
• 36:11
  were
• 36:12
  at
• 36:12
  the
• 36:12
  assemblies
• 36:14
  and
• 36:14
  you
• 36:14
  had
• 36:14
  a
• 36:15
  puppet,
• 36:15
  a
• 36:15
  fit,
• 36:17
  I
• 36:17
  thought,
• 36:18
  oh,
• 36:19
  my
• 36:19
  goodness,
• 36:20
  that
• 36:20
  is
• 36:21
  phenomenal.
• 36:23
  And
• 36:23
  the
• 36:24
  reason
• 36:24
  I
• 36:24
  get
• 36:24
  so
• 36:25
  excited
• 36:25
  about
• 36:26
  this,
• 36:26
  and
• 36:26
  I'll
• 36:26
  tell
• 36:26
  you
• 36:27
  why,
• 36:27
  is
• 36:28
  if
• 36:28
  you
• 36:28
  look
• 36:29
  behind
• 36:29
  us,
• 36:29
  and
• 36:30
  so
• 36:30
  those
• 36:30
  who
• 36:31
  are
• 36:31
  listening
• 36:31
  In
• 36:32
  I
• 36:32
  tell
• 36:32
  the
• 36:33
  story
• 36:33
  on
• 36:33
  some
• 36:34
  of
• 36:34
  the
• 36:34
  episodes
• 36:35
  when
• 36:35
  my
• 36:36
  granddaughter
• 36:36
  and
• 36:36
  I
• 36:37
  came
• 36:37
  up
• 36:37
  with
• 36:37
  our
• 36:38
  idea
• 36:39
  about
• 36:39
  this
• 36:39
  adventurous
• 36:40
  bear,
• 36:41
  it
• 36:41
  was
• 36:41
  all
• 36:41
  based
• 36:41
  on
• 36:42
  a
• 36:42
  real
• 36:42
  story
• 36:43
  that
• 36:43
  happened
• 36:43
  to
• 36:43
  us.
• 36:44
  And
• 36:44
  what
• 36:44
  happened
• 36:44
  was
• 36:45
  my
• 36:45
  granddaughter
• 36:47
  went
• 36:47
  to
• 36:47
  a
• 36:47
  daycare,
• 36:48
  and
• 36:48
  the
• 36:49
  daycare
• 36:49
  had
• 36:50
  two
• 36:50
  stuffies.
• 36:52
  One
• 36:52
  was
• 36:52
  a
• 36:52
  rabbit
• 36:53
  named
• 36:53
  Georgia,
• 36:54
  and
• 36:54
  one
• 36:55
  was
• 36:55
  a
• 36:56
  bear
• 36:57
  named
• 36:57
  her
• 36:57
  brother,
• 36:58
  George.
• 36:58
  So
• 36:58
  there
• 36:59
  was
• 36:59
  Georgia
• 37:00
  the
• 37:00
  rabbit
• 37:01
  and
• 37:01
  George
• 37:02
  the
• 37:02
  bear,
• 37:03
  and
• 37:03
  they
• 37:03
  were
• 37:04
  brother
• 37:04
  and
• 37:04
  sister.
• 37:05
  And
• 37:05
  the
• 37:06
  daycare
• 37:07
  would
• 37:07
  give
• 37:08
  the
• 37:08
  them
• 37:09
  to
• 37:09
  children
• 37:10
  if
• 37:10
  they
• 37:10
  were
• 37:10
  going
• 37:10
  on
• 37:11
  vacation.
• 37:12
  And
• 37:12
  then
• 37:12
  when
• 37:12
  the
• 37:12
  children
• 37:13
  came
• 37:13
  back,
• 37:14
  they
• 37:14
  would
• 37:14
  tell
• 37:15
  stories
• 37:15
  about
• 37:16
  their
• 37:16
  adventures.
• 37:18
  So
• 37:18
  Kira
• 37:18
  brought
• 37:19
  Georgia
• 37:19
  a
• 37:20
  lot,
• 37:20
  the
• 37:20
  stuffed
• 37:20
  bunny.
• 37:21
  And
• 37:21
  we
• 37:21
  did
• 37:22
  so
• 37:22
  many
• 37:22
  adventures.
• 37:23
  We
• 37:23
  ran
• 37:24
  all
• 37:24
  over
• 37:24
  the
• 37:24
  Rocky
• 37:25
  Mountains,
• 37:26
  and
• 37:26
  we
• 37:27
  just
• 37:27
  had
• 37:27
  so
• 37:27
  much
• 37:28
  fun.
• 37:28
  Kira
• 37:29
  outgrew
• 37:29
  the
• 37:30
  daycare,
• 37:31
  but
• 37:31
  we
• 37:32
  had
• 37:32
  all
• 37:32
  these
• 37:32
  adventures.
• 37:33
  We
• 37:33
  had
• 37:33
  all
• 37:33
  these
• 37:34
  stories.
• 37:35
  But
• 37:35
  we
• 37:35
  need
• 37:35
  the
• 37:35
  character.
• 37:36
  We
• 37:36
  had
• 37:37
  a
• 37:37
  character
• 37:38
  in
• 37:38
  mind.
• 37:39
  We
• 37:39
  just
• 37:39
  didn't
• 37:39
  know
• 37:40
  how
• 37:40
  to
• 37:40
  bring
• 37:41
  the
• 37:41
  character
• 37:41
  to
• 37:42
  life.
• 37:42
  My
• 37:42
  wife
• 37:42
  and
• 37:43
  I
• 37:43
  talked
• 37:44
  about
• 37:44
  this
• 37:45
  adventurous
• 37:46
  bear
• 37:46
  so
• 37:46
  much
• 37:46
  to
• 37:46
  my
• 37:47
  wife
• 37:47
  that
• 37:48
  I'm
• 37:48
  sure
• 37:48
  she
• 37:48
  thought
• 37:48
  I
• 37:49
  was
• 37:49
  crazy.
• 37:49
  But
• 37:49
  we
• 37:50
  were
• 37:50
  down
• 37:50
  in
• 37:50
  San
• 37:51
  Francisco
• 37:52
  on
• 37:52
  a
• 37:52
  holiday
• 37:53
  and
• 37:53
  went
• 37:53
  into
• 37:53
  one
• 37:53
  of
• 37:54
  these
• 37:54
  plushie
• 37:54
  bear
• 37:55
  places,
• 37:56
  build
• 37:56
  a
• 37:56
  bear.
• 37:57
  And
• 37:58
  they
• 37:58
  had
• 37:58
  this
• 37:59
  bear,
• 37:59
  and
• 38:00
  then
• 38:00
  they
• 38:01
  had
• 38:01
  this
• 38:01
  engineering
• 38:02
  outfit.
• 38:03
  It
• 38:03
  was
• 38:03
  magical.
• 38:04
  Caboose
• 38:04
  was
• 38:05
  born,
• 38:05
  and
• 38:06
  we
• 38:06
  actually
• 38:06
  used
• 38:07
  the.
• 38:07
  This
• 38:07
  bear
• 38:08
  in
• 38:09
  the
• 38:09
  background
• 38:09
  that,
• 38:10
  of
• 38:10
  course,
• 38:10
  anybody
• 38:11
  listening
• 38:11
  can't
• 38:11
  see.
• 38:11
  But
• 38:12
  the
• 38:12
  bear
• 38:13
  ended
• 38:13
  up
• 38:13
  being
• 38:14
  our
• 38:15
  inspiration
• 38:15
  for
• 38:16
  our
• 38:16
  main
• 38:16
  character.
• 38:17
  I
• 38:17
  took
• 38:17
  a
• 38:17
  picture
• 38:17
  of
• 38:17
  the
• 38:18
  bear
• 38:18
  and
• 38:18
  gave
• 38:18
  it
• 38:19
  to
• 38:19
  the
• 38:19
  illustrator.
• 38:20
  And
• 38:20
  our
• 38:20
  illustrator
• 38:21
  built
• 38:21
  our
• 38:22
  whole
• 38:22
  book
• 38:22
  series
• 38:23
  around
• 38:24
  one
• 38:25
  stuffing.
• 38:26
  I
• 38:26
  love
• 38:26
  that.
• 38:27
  That's
• 38:27
  why
• 38:27
  I'm
• 38:28
  excited
• 38:28
  about
• 38:28
  what
• 38:29
  you're
• 38:29
  doing,
• 38:29
  because
• 38:30
  I
• 38:30
  never
• 38:30
  thought
• 38:31
  about
• 38:31
  a
• 38:31
  puppet
• 38:32
  taking
• 38:33
  your
• 38:33
  main
• 38:33
  character
• 38:34
  and
• 38:34
  turning
• 38:34
  it
• 38:34
  into
• 38:35
  a
• 38:35
  puppet.
• 38:36
  So
• 38:36
  I'm
• 38:37
  so
• 38:37
  interested,
• 38:38
  and
• 38:39
  I
• 38:39
  think
• 38:39
  as
• 38:40
  a
• 38:40
  storyteller,
• 38:41
  like,
• 38:41
  what
• 38:42
  a
• 38:42
  great
• 38:43
  thing
• 38:43
  to
• 38:43
  do.
• 38:44
  Tell
• 38:44
  us
• 38:44
  about
• 38:45
  that
• 38:45
  whole
• 38:45
  experience.
• 38:46
  How
• 38:46
  did
• 38:46
  you
• 38:47
  come
• 38:47
  up
• 38:47
  with
• 38:47
  that
• 38:47
  idea?
• 38:48
  I'm
• 38:48
  trying
• 38:49
  to
• 38:49
  remember
• 38:49
  where
• 38:50
  I
• 38:50
  did
• 38:51
  come
• 38:51
  up
• 38:51
  with
• 38:51
  the
• 38:51
  idea.
• 38:52
  I
• 38:52
  think
• 38:52
  I
• 38:52
  was
• 38:53
  trying
• 38:53
  to
• 38:53
  figure
• 38:54
  out
• 38:54
  a
• 38:54
  way.
• 38:54
  So
• 38:55
  in
• 38:55
  my
• 38:55
  book,
• 38:56
  there
• 38:56
  are
• 38:56
  several
• 38:57
  times
• 38:57
  throughout
• 38:57
  the
• 38:58
  story
• 38:58
  when
• 38:58
  Finn,
• 38:58
  my
• 38:58
  main
• 38:59
  character,
• 39:00
  will
• 39:00
  sing,
• 39:00
  Chickadee
• 39:01
  Dee
• 39:01
  Dee
• 39:01
  this
• 39:02
  place
• 39:02
  is
• 39:02
  not
• 39:02
  for
• 39:03
  me.
• 39:03
  And
• 39:03
  then
• 39:04
  at
• 39:04
  the
• 39:04
  end
• 39:04
  he'll
• 39:04
  say,
• 39:04
  Chickadee
• 39:05
  dee
• 39:05
  Dee
• 39:05
  this
• 39:06
  place
• 39:06
  was
• 39:06
  made
• 39:06
  for
• 39:06
  me,
• 39:07
  but
• 39:08
  I
• 39:08
  wanted
• 39:09
  the
• 39:09
  kids
• 39:09
  to
• 39:10
  sing
• 39:10
  that
• 39:10
  phrase
• 39:11
  with
• 39:11
  me,
• 39:11
  the
• 39:11
  Chickadee
• 39:12
  dee
• 39:12
  Dee.
• 39:13
  And
• 39:13
  I
• 39:13
  thought,
• 39:14
  what's
• 39:14
  a
• 39:14
  good
• 39:14
  way
• 39:15
  I
• 39:15
  can
• 39:15
  engage
• 39:15
  the
• 39:16
  kids
• 39:17
  to
• 39:17
  get
• 39:17
  them
• 39:17
  to
• 39:17
  say
• 39:18
  it,
• 39:18
  but
• 39:18
  the
• 39:19
  to
• 39:19
  also
• 39:20
  quiet
• 39:20
  down
• 39:20
  after
• 39:21
  so
• 39:21
  they
• 39:21
  can
• 39:21
  continue
• 39:21
  to
• 39:22
  hear
• 39:22
  the
• 39:22
  story.
• 39:23
  And
• 39:24
  I
• 39:24
  thought,
• 39:24
  what
• 39:24
  I'm
• 39:25
  A
• 39:25
  puppet.
• 39:26
  And
• 39:26
  I
• 39:26
  can
• 39:26
  hold
• 39:27
  him
• 39:27
  up
• 39:27
  in
• 39:27
  the
• 39:27
  air
• 39:27
  and
• 39:28
  say,
• 39:28
  when
• 39:28
  Finn
• 39:28
  flies
• 39:28
  up
• 39:29
  in
• 39:29
  the
• 39:29
  air,
• 39:29
  that's
• 39:29
  your
• 39:29
  cue.
• 39:30
  And
• 39:30
  it's
• 39:30
  time
• 39:30
  to
• 39:30
  say
• 39:31
  Chickadee
• 39:31
  Dee
• 39:32
  Dee.
• 39:32
  And
• 39:32
  then
• 39:32
  when
• 39:32
  he
• 39:33
  comes
• 39:33
  back
• 39:33
  down,
• 39:33
  we
• 39:34
  need
• 39:34
  to
• 39:35
  be
• 39:35
  quiet
• 39:35
  so
• 39:35
  we
• 39:35
  can
• 39:35
  hear
• 39:36
  the
• 39:36
  rest
• 39:36
  of
• 39:36
  the
• 39:36
  story.
• 39:37
  I've
• 39:37
  used
• 39:37
  him
• 39:37
  as
• 39:37
  a
• 39:38
  tool.
• 39:38
  And
• 39:38
  it's
• 39:38
  funny
• 39:39
  because
• 39:40
  I.
• 39:40
  I
• 39:41
  did
• 39:41
  it
• 39:41
  in
• 39:41
  reverse
• 39:42
  of
• 39:42
  the
• 39:42
  way
• 39:42
  you
• 39:42
  did
• 39:43
  it.
• 39:43
  I
• 39:43
  had
• 39:44
  my
• 39:44
  character
• 39:44
  drawn
• 39:45
  first,
• 39:45
  and
• 39:45
  then
• 39:45
  I
• 39:46
  sent
• 39:46
  the
• 39:46
  picture
• 39:47
  that
• 39:47
  the
• 39:47
  illustrator
• 39:48
  created
• 39:48
  a
• 39:48
  Finn
• 39:49
  into
• 39:49
  a
• 39:50
  company
• 39:50
  called
• 39:50
  Budsies.
• 39:51
  And
• 39:51
  they
• 39:51
  created
• 39:52
  the
• 39:52
  puppet,
• 39:53
  and
• 39:53
  he
• 39:54
  came
• 39:54
  looking
• 39:54
  more
• 39:55
  like
• 39:55
  a
• 39:55
  penguin.
• 39:55
  I'm
• 39:56
  not
• 39:56
  gonna
• 39:56
  lie.
• 39:57
  So
• 39:57
  I.
• 39:57
  That's
• 39:57
  fun,
• 39:58
  though,
• 39:58
  because
• 39:58
  I
• 39:58
  will
• 39:59
  joke
• 39:59
  about
• 39:59
  that
• 39:59
  with
• 39:59
  the
• 40:00
  kids
• 40:00
  when
• 40:00
  I
• 40:00
  go.
• 40:00
  And
• 40:00
  I'll
• 40:01
  say,
• 40:01
  how
• 40:01
  many
• 40:01
  of
• 40:01
  you
• 40:02
  think
• 40:02
  he
• 40:02
  looks
• 40:02
  like
• 40:02
  a
• 40:02
  chickadee?
• 40:03
  And
• 40:03
  how
• 40:03
  many
• 40:03
  of
• 40:03
  you
• 40:04
  think
• 40:04
  he
• 40:04
  actually
• 40:04
  looks
• 40:04
  more
• 40:05
  like
• 40:05
  a
• 40:05
  penguin?
• 40:05
  And
• 40:06
  they
• 40:06
  think
• 40:06
  that's
• 40:06
  fun.
• 40:06
  That's
• 40:07
  hilarious.
• 40:07
  The
• 40:08
  nice
• 40:08
  thing
• 40:08
  about
• 40:08
  the.
• 40:09
  On
• 40:09
  the
• 40:09
  front
• 40:09
  cover.
• 40:10
  Finn's
• 40:11
  on
• 40:11
  the
• 40:11
  front
• 40:11
  cover
• 40:12
  is
• 40:12
  he's
• 40:12
  pretty
• 40:13
  fat.
• 40:13
  Yes.
• 40:14
  Until
• 40:14
  you
• 40:14
  said
• 40:15
  that,
• 40:15
  I.
• 40:15
  Of
• 40:15
  course,
• 40:15
  I.
• 40:16
  I
• 40:16
  haven't
• 40:16
  seen
• 40:16
  Finn
• 40:17
  live
• 40:17
  as
• 40:18
  a
• 40:18
  puppet,
• 40:19
  but
• 40:19
  I
• 40:19
  thought,
• 40:20
  wow,
• 40:20
  that's
• 40:21
  pretty
• 40:21
  darn
• 40:21
  cool.
• 40:22
  But
• 40:23
  when
• 40:23
  the
• 40:23
  hard
• 40:23
  thing
• 40:24
  is,
• 40:24
  I'm
• 40:24
  like,
• 40:25
  in
• 40:25
  the
• 40:25
  company's
• 40:26
  credit,
• 40:26
  I
• 40:26
  don't
• 40:26
  know
• 40:26
  how
• 40:26
  you
• 40:27
  would
• 40:27
  make
• 40:27
  it
• 40:27
  look
• 40:27
  more
• 40:27
  like
• 40:27
  a
• 40:28
  chickadee.
• 40:28
  Cause
• 40:28
  the
• 40:28
  coloring
• 40:29
  is
• 40:29
  very
• 40:29
  similar
• 40:29
  to
• 40:30
  penguin.
• 40:31
  Tell
• 40:31
  us
• 40:31
  about
• 40:31
  the
• 40:32
  interaction
• 40:32
  with
• 40:33
  the
• 40:33
  kids.
• 40:34
  Have
• 40:34
  the
• 40:34
  kids
• 40:34
  said,
• 40:35
  can
• 40:35
  I
• 40:35
  get
• 40:36
  a
• 40:36
  puppet
• 40:36
  to
• 40:36
  go
• 40:37
  with
• 40:37
  the
• 40:37
  book?
• 40:38
  They've
• 40:38
  never
• 40:38
  asked
• 40:39
  for
• 40:39
  a
• 40:39
  puppet.
• 40:40
  Actually,
• 40:40
  I'm.
• 40:41
  I'm
• 40:41
  shocked
• 40:42
  that
• 40:42
  I.
• 40:42
  Yeah,
• 40:43
  so
• 40:43
  am
• 40:43
  I.
• 40:44
  But
• 40:44
  I
• 40:44
  do
• 40:44
  have
• 40:45
  to
• 40:45
  say
• 40:46
  they
• 40:46
  haven't
• 40:46
  asked
• 40:46
  for
• 40:47
  that
• 40:47
  at
• 40:47
  school
• 40:47
  visits.
• 40:48
  But
• 40:48
  when
• 40:49
  I've
• 40:49
  been
• 40:49
  at
• 40:49
  my
• 40:49
  farmer's
• 40:50
  market,
• 40:50
  I
• 40:50
  will
• 40:51
  set
• 40:51
  my
• 40:51
  puppet
• 40:51
  out
• 40:52
  on
• 40:52
  the
• 40:52
  table
• 40:53
  with
• 40:53
  my
• 40:54
  book,
• 40:54
  and
• 40:55
  they
• 40:55
  will
• 40:55
  ask
• 40:55
  if
• 40:56
  they
• 40:56
  can
• 40:56
  buy
• 40:56
  the
• 40:56
  puppet,
• 40:57
  too.
• 40:57
  And
• 40:57
  I
• 40:57
  said,
• 40:58
  no,
• 40:58
  that
• 40:58
  one
• 40:59
  is
• 40:59
  just
• 40:59
  for
• 41:00
  when
• 41:00
  I
• 41:00
  go
• 41:01
  and
• 41:01
  read
• 41:01
  my
• 41:01
  stories.
• 41:02
  But
• 41:02
  I'll
• 41:03
  let
• 41:03
  them
• 41:03
  hold
• 41:03
  it
• 41:04
  and
• 41:04
  pet
• 41:04
  it.
• 41:05
  And.
• 41:05
  Yeah,
• 41:06
  I
• 41:06
  want
• 41:07
  to
• 41:07
  share
• 41:07
  something
• 41:07
  with
• 41:07
  you,
• 41:08
  because
• 41:09
  when
• 41:09
  we
• 41:09
  first
• 41:09
  started
• 41:10
  out,
• 41:10
  we
• 41:10
  went
• 41:11
  to
• 41:11
  several
• 41:12
  independent
• 41:12
  bookstores.
• 41:14
  And
• 41:14
  one
• 41:14
  of
• 41:14
  the
• 41:15
  independent
• 41:15
  bookstores,
• 41:16
  Stonewaters,
• 41:16
  we
• 41:17
  went
• 41:17
  to,
• 41:18
  is
• 41:18
  in
• 41:18
  the
• 41:18
  Rocky
• 41:19
  Mountains.
• 41:19
  They've
• 41:19
  been
• 41:20
  selling
• 41:20
  our
• 41:20
  book,
• 41:21
  but
• 41:21
  the
• 41:21
  owner
• 41:22
  of
• 41:22
  the
• 41:22
  bookstore
• 41:23
  said,
• 41:24
  have
• 41:24
  you
• 41:24
  got
• 41:24
  a
• 41:25
  stuffy
• 41:25
  to
• 41:25
  go
• 41:26
  with
• 41:26
  the
• 41:26
  book?
• 41:26
  And
• 41:26
  I
• 41:27
  said,
• 41:27
  oh,
• 41:28
  no,
• 41:28
  we
• 41:29
  don't,
• 41:29
  Mike.
• 41:30
  What
• 41:30
  are
• 41:30
  you
• 41:30
  talking
• 41:30
  about?
• 41:31
  And
• 41:31
  he
• 41:31
  said,
• 41:31
  if
• 41:32
  you
• 41:32
  come
• 41:32
  over
• 41:32
  to
• 41:32
  the
• 41:33
  section.
• 41:33
  So
• 41:33
  he
• 41:33
  took
• 41:33
  us
• 41:34
  to
• 41:34
  the
• 41:34
  section
• 41:34
  of
• 41:35
  the
• 41:35
  children's
• 41:35
  books,
• 41:36
  and.
• 41:36
  And
• 41:36
  a
• 41:36
  lot
• 41:36
  of
• 41:37
  Them
• 41:37
  had
• 41:38
  a
• 41:38
  book
• 41:39
  and
• 41:39
  a
• 41:39
  stuffy.
• 41:40
  And
• 41:40
  he
• 41:40
  said
• 41:41
  a
• 41:41
  lot
• 41:41
  of
• 41:42
  the
• 41:42
  times
• 41:42
  we
• 41:42
  sell
• 41:43
  the
• 41:43
  book
• 41:43
  and
• 41:43
  the
• 41:43
  stuffy
• 41:44
  together
• 41:44
  because
• 41:45
  it's
• 41:46
  such
• 41:46
  a
• 41:46
  cute
• 41:47
  idea
• 41:48
  and
• 41:48
  people
• 41:48
  like
• 41:48
  doing
• 41:49
  that
• 41:49
  when
• 41:49
  they
• 41:49
  know
• 41:50
  that
• 41:50
  they've
• 41:50
  got,
• 41:51
  they're
• 41:51
  reading
• 41:52
  Caboose,
• 41:52
  the
• 41:53
  Rocky
• 41:53
  Mountain
• 41:53
  Bear
• 41:54
  and,
• 41:54
  and
• 41:54
  the
• 41:55
  child
• 41:55
  has
• 41:55
  caboose
• 41:56
  in
• 41:56
  his
• 41:57
  or
• 41:57
  her
• 41:57
  lap.
• 41:58
  Romantical
• 41:59
  kids.
• 42:00
  It
• 42:00
  is
• 42:00
  the
• 42:01
  only
• 42:01
  thing
• 42:01
  is
• 42:01
  that
• 42:03
  in
• 42:03
  retail
• 42:04
  they
• 42:04
  always
• 42:04
  like
• 42:05
  to
• 42:05
  double
• 42:05
  their
• 42:05
  price
• 42:06
  and
• 42:07
  then
• 42:07
  you
• 42:07
  also
• 42:07
  have
• 42:08
  to
• 42:08
  make
• 42:08
  a
• 42:09
  profit.
• 42:10
  Exactly.
• 42:12
  My
• 42:12
  wife
• 42:12
  and
• 42:12
  I
• 42:13
  did
• 42:13
  a
• 42:13
  lot
• 42:13
  of
• 42:14
  research
• 42:15
  trying
• 42:15
  to
• 42:16
  figure
• 42:16
  out
• 42:16
  how
• 42:16
  to
• 42:17
  do
• 42:17
  it.
• 42:17
  And
• 42:18
  at
• 42:18
  the
• 42:18
  end
• 42:18
  of
• 42:18
  the
• 42:19
  day
• 42:19
  we
• 42:20
  just,
• 42:20
  with
• 42:21
  the
• 42:21
  margins
• 42:21
  that
• 42:22
  everybody
• 42:22
  wanted,
• 42:23
  we
• 42:23
  just
• 42:23
  couldn't
• 42:23
  do
• 42:24
  it
• 42:24
  in
• 42:24
  North
• 42:25
  America
• 42:25
  either.
• 42:26
  You
• 42:26
  live
• 42:26
  in
• 42:26
  the
• 42:26
  United
• 42:26
  States,
• 42:27
  you
• 42:27
  live
• 42:27
  in
• 42:27
  Canada.
• 42:28
  It,
• 42:29
  the
• 42:29
  cost
• 42:29
  is
• 42:30
  prohibitive.
• 42:31
  And
• 42:32
  so
• 42:32
  what
• 42:33
  we
• 42:33
  did
• 42:33
  is
• 42:34
  I
• 42:34
  was
• 42:34
  interviewing
• 42:35
  a
• 42:35
  guest
• 42:35
  from
• 42:35
  Oklahoma
• 42:37
  and
• 42:37
  she
• 42:38
  actually
• 42:38
  had
• 42:39
  her
• 42:39
  book,
• 42:40
  hard
• 42:40
  hardcover
• 42:41
  books
• 42:42
  offset
• 42:42
  printed
• 42:43
  in
• 42:44
  China.
• 42:45
  And
• 42:45
  she
• 42:46
  told
• 42:46
  me
• 42:46
  about
• 42:46
  this
• 42:46
  service
• 42:47
  called
• 42:47
  madeinchina.com
• 42:49
  and
• 42:49
  she
• 42:50
  said
• 42:50
  they'll
• 42:50
  make
• 42:51
  anything
• 42:51
  for
• 42:52
  you
• 42:52
  and
• 42:53
  the
• 42:53
  price
• 42:54
  will
• 42:55
  work
• 42:55
  in
• 42:55
  North
• 42:56
  America.
• 42:56
  Yeah,
• 42:57
  yeah.
• 42:57
  And
• 42:58
  I,
• 42:58
  we
• 42:58
  said,
• 42:58
  oh.
• 42:59
  So
• 42:59
  anyway,
• 42:59
  she
• 43:00
  gave
• 43:00
  me
• 43:00
  the
• 43:00
  lead.
• 43:01
  I
• 43:01
  went
• 43:02
  and
• 43:02
  actually
• 43:02
  did
• 43:03
  that.
• 43:03
  I
• 43:04
  thought,
• 43:04
  okay,
• 43:04
  I'm
• 43:04
  going
• 43:05
  to
• 43:05
  try
• 43:05
  this.
• 43:06
  And
• 43:06
  so
• 43:07
  I've
• 43:07
  got
• 43:07
  to
• 43:07
  show
• 43:07
  you
• 43:08
  this.
• 43:08
  So
• 43:08
  this
• 43:08
  is
• 43:08
  actually
• 43:09
  for
• 43:10
  those
• 43:10
  again,
• 43:10
  listening,
• 43:11
  you
• 43:11
  can't
• 43:11
  see
• 43:11
  it.
• 43:12
  This
• 43:12
  is
• 43:12
  actually
• 43:13
  what
• 43:13
  they
• 43:13
  did.
• 43:14
  Made.
• 43:15
  Yes.
• 43:16
  And
• 43:16
  isn't
• 43:16
  that
• 43:17
  incredible
• 43:17
  how
• 43:18
  anyone
• 43:18
  listening?
• 43:19
  Our
• 43:19
  sample
• 43:21
  of
• 43:21
  our
• 43:22
  bear
• 43:22
  that
• 43:22
  we
• 43:23
  bought
• 43:23
  in
• 43:23
  San
• 43:23
  Francisco
• 43:24
  and
• 43:25
  the
• 43:25
  one
• 43:25
  that
• 43:25
  we
• 43:26
  just
• 43:26
  had
• 43:26
  designed
• 43:27
  in
• 43:27
  China
• 43:28
  are
• 43:28
  almost
• 43:29
  identical
• 43:29
  except
• 43:30
  for
• 43:30
  the
• 43:30
  size.
• 43:30
  And
• 43:30
  yet
• 43:31
  the
• 43:31
  pricing
• 43:32
  won't
• 43:32
  work
• 43:33
  for
• 43:33
  us.
• 43:33
  The
• 43:33
  only
• 43:33
  reason
• 43:34
  I
• 43:34
  bring
• 43:34
  that
• 43:34
  up
• 43:34
  is
• 43:35
  I
• 43:35
  think,
• 43:35
  you
• 43:35
  know
• 43:36
  what,
• 43:36
  as
• 43:36
  you're
• 43:37
  trying
• 43:37
  to
• 43:37
  build
• 43:38
  some
• 43:39
  revenue
• 43:40
  with
• 43:40
  your
• 43:41
  book,
• 43:42
  possibly
• 43:43
  it
• 43:43
  might
• 43:43
  be
• 43:44
  too
• 43:44
  cost
• 43:44
  prohibitive
• 43:45
  to
• 43:46
  do
• 43:46
  it
• 43:46
  in
• 43:47
  the
• 43:47
  usa,
• 43:48
  but
• 43:48
  it
• 43:49
  might
• 43:49
  not
• 43:49
  be
• 43:50
  such
• 43:50
  a
• 43:50
  bad
• 43:50
  idea
• 43:51
  if
• 43:51
  you
• 43:51
  could
• 43:51
  source
• 43:52
  it.
• 43:53
  So
• 43:53
  now
• 43:53
  just
• 43:53
  so
• 43:54
  you
• 43:54
  know,
• 43:54
  our
• 43:54
  minimum
• 43:55
  order
• 43:55
  is
• 43:55
  500
• 43:56
  units.
• 43:57
  They
• 43:57
  A
• 43:57
  lot
• 43:57
  of
• 43:57
  times
• 43:58
  they
• 43:58
  want
• 43:58
  bulk
• 43:58
  orders.
• 43:59
  Correct.
• 44:00
  So
• 44:00
  that's
• 44:00
  the
• 44:00
  only,
• 44:00
  that's
• 44:01
  the
• 44:01
  only
• 44:01
  thing.
• 44:02
  And
• 44:02
  we
• 44:02
  had
• 44:02
  to
• 44:03
  pay
• 44:03
  for
• 44:03
  the
• 44:03
  sample
• 44:03
  up
• 44:04
  front.
• 44:05
  Okay.
• 44:05
  So
• 44:05
  it
• 44:06
  currently
• 44:06
  it's
• 44:07
  on
• 44:07
  its
• 44:07
  way
• 44:07
  to
• 44:08
  us
• 44:08
  because
• 44:08
  we
• 44:08
  only
• 44:09
  have
• 44:09
  pictures.
• 44:09
  I
• 44:09
  only
• 44:10
  mention
• 44:10
  that
• 44:10
  because
• 44:11
  especially
• 44:12
  Amber
• 44:13
  with
• 44:13
  you
• 44:14
  being
• 44:14
  so
• 44:14
  honest
• 44:15
  about
• 44:15
  your
• 44:15
  approach
• 44:16
  about
• 44:16
  social
• 44:16
  media.
• 44:17
  It's
• 44:18
  something
• 44:18
  that
• 44:18
  you
• 44:19
  don't
• 44:19
  really
• 44:19
  want
• 44:20
  to
• 44:20
  embrace
• 44:20
  at
• 44:20
  this
• 44:21
  point,
• 44:21
  but
• 44:21
  you
• 44:21
  still
• 44:22
  want
• 44:22
  to
• 44:22
  be
• 44:22
  a
• 44:22
  children's
• 44:23
  book
• 44:23
  author.
• 44:23
  And
• 44:24
  how
• 44:24
  do
• 44:24
  you
• 44:24
  create
• 44:25
  some
• 44:25
  revenue
• 44:26
  that
• 44:26
  could
• 44:27
  offset
• 44:28
  if
• 44:28
  you're
• 44:28
  not
• 44:29
  reaching
• 44:29
  people
• 44:30
  through
• 44:30
  social
• 44:30
  media?
• 44:31
  How
• 44:31
  do
• 44:31
  you
• 44:31
  create
• 44:31
  Some
• 44:32
  revenue
• 44:32
  and
• 44:33
  possibly
• 44:34
  your
• 44:34
  puppet,
• 44:34
  which
• 44:34
  I
• 44:35
  think
• 44:35
  is
• 44:35
  a
• 44:35
  phenomenal
• 44:36
  idea.
• 44:37
  I
• 44:37
  was
• 44:37
  thinking
• 44:38
  a
• 44:38
  parent
• 44:38
  or
• 44:39
  a
• 44:39
  grandparent
• 44:39
  or
• 44:40
  a
• 44:40
  friend
• 44:40
  reading
• 44:41
  to
• 44:41
  the
• 44:41
  child
• 44:41
  and
• 44:41
  they
• 44:42
  got
• 44:42
  the
• 44:42
  puppet
• 44:42
  on
• 44:42
  their
• 44:43
  hand
• 44:43
  and
• 44:43
  the
• 44:43
  book.
• 44:43
  Oh,
• 44:44
  and
• 44:44
  then
• 44:44
  the
• 44:45
  puppet
• 44:45
  becomes
• 44:46
  the
• 44:46
  friend
• 44:46
  of
• 44:47
  the
• 44:47
  child.
• 44:47
  It's
• 44:48
  so
• 44:48
  magical.
• 44:49
  Just
• 44:49
  saying
• 44:50
  to
• 44:50
  you,
• 44:50
  I'm
• 44:50
  so
• 44:50
  excited
• 44:51
  about
• 44:51
  it
• 44:51
  because
• 44:51
  I
• 44:52
  think
• 44:52
  you
• 44:52
  have
• 44:53
  something
• 44:53
  very
• 44:53
  special
• 44:54
  there
• 44:55
  that
• 44:56
  might
• 44:56
  fit
• 44:56
  into
• 44:57
  your
• 44:57
  building
• 44:58
  your
• 44:59
  book
• 44:59
  business
• 45:00
  a
• 45:00
  different
• 45:00
  way.
• 45:01
  Thank
• 45:01
  you.
• 45:02
  Can
• 45:02
  you
• 45:02
  repeat
• 45:03
  the
• 45:03
  name
• 45:03
  of
• 45:03
  that
• 45:03
  website
• 45:04
  again
• 45:04
  for
• 45:04
  myself
• 45:05
  and
• 45:05
  the
• 45:05
  listeners?
• 45:06
  So
• 45:06
  it's
• 45:06
  Made
• 45:07
  in
• 45:07
  China.
• 45:10
  And
• 45:10
  just
• 45:10
  so
• 45:10
  everyone
• 45:11
  knows,
• 45:11
  Amber's
• 45:12
  been
• 45:12
  giving
• 45:12
  us
• 45:12
  so
• 45:13
  many
• 45:13
  great
• 45:13
  insights
• 45:14
  into
• 45:15
  other
• 45:16
  companies.
• 45:16
  We'll
• 45:17
  make
• 45:17
  sure
• 45:17
  all
• 45:17
  the
• 45:17
  links
• 45:18
  are
• 45:18
  in
• 45:18
  the
• 45:18
  show
• 45:18
  notes.
• 45:19
  So
• 45:20
  have
• 45:20
  no
• 45:20
  fear,
• 45:21
  the
• 45:21
  links
• 45:21
  will
• 45:21
  be
• 45:22
  there
• 45:22
  or
• 45:23
  something.
• 45:23
  It
• 45:23
  doesn't
• 45:24
  rhyme.
• 45:24
  But
• 45:24
  that's
• 45:24
  okay.
• 45:25
  You
• 45:25
  have
• 45:25
  something
• 45:26
  magical
• 45:26
  there
• 45:27
  that
• 45:27
  you
• 45:27
  could
• 45:28
  really
• 45:28
  take
• 45:28
  advantage
• 45:28
  of.
• 45:29
  And
• 45:29
  if
• 45:29
  you
• 45:29
  love
• 45:29
  going
• 45:30
  to
• 45:30
  farmers
• 45:30
  markets
• 45:31
  to.
• 45:32
  Then
• 45:32
  you
• 45:32
  could
• 45:32
  have
• 45:33
  a
• 45:33
  combo
• 45:34
  pricing.
• 45:35
  So
• 45:36
  the
• 45:36
  puppet
• 45:36
  itself
• 45:37
  might
• 45:37
  be
• 45:37
  $5
• 45:38
  more
• 45:38
  and
• 45:39
  the
• 45:39
  book,
• 45:39
  and
• 45:39
  then
• 45:39
  you
• 45:39
  have
• 45:40
  a
• 45:40
  combo
• 45:40
  price
• 45:40
  and
• 45:41
  then
• 45:41
  your
• 45:41
  chances
• 45:42
  of
• 45:42
  selling
• 45:42
  more
• 45:42
  but
• 45:43
  making
• 45:44
  good
• 45:44
  margin
• 45:44
  to
• 45:45
  help
• 45:45
  you
• 45:45
  do
• 45:45
  your
• 45:45
  next
• 45:46
  book
• 45:46
  just
• 45:47
  might
• 45:47
  be
• 45:47
  a
• 45:48
  big
• 45:48
  possibility.
• 45:49
  I
• 45:49
  think
• 45:49
  what
• 45:49
  you've
• 45:49
  done
• 45:50
  is
• 45:50
  so
• 45:51
  magical
• 45:51
  and
• 45:51
  it's
• 45:52
  such
• 45:52
  a
• 45:52
  genius
• 45:53
  idea.
• 45:54
  Thank
• 45:54
  you.
• 45:54
  Thank
• 45:55
  you.
• 45:55
  And
• 45:55
  yeah,
• 45:56
  it's
• 45:56
  funny
• 45:56
  you
• 45:56
  mentioned
• 45:56
  that
• 45:57
  with
• 45:57
  a
• 45:57
  farmer's
• 45:57
  market,
• 45:57
  because
• 45:58
  I
• 45:58
  actually
• 45:58
  did
• 45:59
  find
• 45:59
  my
• 45:59
  booth
• 46:00
  was
• 46:00
  next
• 46:01
  at
• 46:01
  one
• 46:01
  of
• 46:01
  the
• 46:01
  markets,
• 46:01
  my
• 46:02
  booth
• 46:02
  was
• 46:02
  next
• 46:02
  to
• 46:03
  someone
• 46:03
  who
• 46:03
  crocheted
• 46:05
  cute
• 46:05
  little
• 46:05
  stuffy
• 46:06
  animals.
• 46:06
  And
• 46:06
  so
• 46:06
  I
• 46:06
  said,
• 46:07
  oh,
• 46:07
  can
• 46:07
  you
• 46:07
  crochet
• 46:08
  my
• 46:08
  main
• 46:08
  character?
• 46:09
  And
• 46:09
  she
• 46:10
  did.
• 46:10
  And
• 46:10
  I
• 46:10
  bought
• 46:11
  some
• 46:11
  from
• 46:11
  her
• 46:12
  and
• 46:12
  she
• 46:13
  did
• 46:13
  a
• 46:13
  great
• 46:13
  job.
• 46:13
  They're
• 46:14
  so
• 46:14
  cute.
• 46:14
  But
• 46:14
  it's
• 46:14
  the
• 46:15
  same
• 46:15
  thing.
• 46:15
  It's
• 46:15
  like
• 46:16
  she's
• 46:16
  trying
• 46:17
  to
• 46:17
  make
• 46:17
  money,
• 46:17
  so
• 46:17
  she
• 46:18
  has
• 46:18
  to
• 46:18
  charge.
• 46:18
  And
• 46:19
  they're
• 46:19
  handmade,
• 46:20
  so
• 46:20
  there's
• 46:20
  a
• 46:20
  lot
• 46:20
  of
• 46:21
  value.
• 46:21
  Not
• 46:21
  too.
• 46:21
  I
• 46:22
  was
• 46:22
  running
• 46:22
  into
• 46:22
  the
• 46:22
  same
• 46:22
  issue.
• 46:23
  I
• 46:23
  tried
• 46:23
  to
• 46:23
  sell
• 46:24
  them
• 46:24
  and
• 46:24
  I
• 46:24
  actually
• 46:24
  could
• 46:25
  not
• 46:25
  sell
• 46:25
  them
• 46:25
  at
• 46:25
  the
• 46:26
  farmer's
• 46:26
  market
• 46:26
  because
• 46:27
  of
• 46:27
  stipulations,
• 46:28
  which
• 46:28
  the
• 46:28
  way
• 46:28
  the
• 46:28
  farmer's
• 46:29
  market
• 46:29
  was
• 46:29
  ran,
• 46:29
  I
• 46:29
  couldn't
• 46:30
  sell
• 46:30
  the
• 46:30
  stuff
• 46:31
  along
• 46:31
  with
• 46:31
  the
• 46:31
  book
• 46:32
  at
• 46:32
  that
• 46:32
  particular
• 46:33
  market.
• 46:33
  But
• 46:34
  I
• 46:34
  think
• 46:34
  if
• 46:34
  I
• 46:34
  were
• 46:35
  to
• 46:35
  have
• 46:35
  one
• 46:36
  made
• 46:37
  separately,
• 46:37
  not
• 46:37
  from
• 46:38
  another
• 46:38
  vendor.
• 46:39
  Yes.
• 46:39
  From
• 46:40
  like
• 46:40
  you
• 46:40
  say,
• 46:41
  from
• 46:41
  this
• 46:41
  website,
• 46:42
  then
• 46:42
  I
• 46:42
  think
• 46:42
  that
• 46:43
  would
• 46:43
  be.
• 46:43
  What
• 46:44
  I'll
• 46:44
  do
• 46:44
  is
• 46:44
  I'll
• 46:44
  send
• 46:45
  you
• 46:46
  my
• 46:46
  contact
• 46:47
  name
• 46:47
  that
• 46:47
  I
• 46:47
  used.
• 46:48
  Oh,
• 46:48
  that
• 46:48
  would
• 46:49
  be
• 46:49
  wonderful.
• 46:49
  Yeah,
• 46:50
  I
• 46:50
  know.
• 46:50
  I'd
• 46:50
  be
• 46:50
  happy
• 46:50
  to
• 46:51
  do
• 46:51
  that.
• 46:51
  Their
• 46:51
  service
• 46:52
  was
• 46:52
  unbelievable.
• 46:53
  Oh,
• 46:54
  God.
• 46:54
  I
• 46:54
  thought,
• 46:55
  why?
• 46:55
  They
• 46:55
  don't
• 46:55
  even.
• 46:56
  Like
• 46:56
  they're
• 46:56
  sitting
• 46:56
  In.
• 46:57
  Now
• 46:57
  they're
• 46:57
  in
• 46:57
  Singapore.
• 46:58
  It
• 46:58
  was
• 46:58
  like
• 46:59
  it
• 46:59
  almost
• 47:00
  instantaneously
• 47:01
  because
• 47:01
  we
• 47:01
  live
• 47:02
  in
• 47:02
  a
• 47:02
  technological
• 47:03
  world
• 47:03
  where
• 47:03
  there.
• 47:03
  There
• 47:04
  is
• 47:04
  no.
• 47:04
  There
• 47:05
  is
• 47:05
  no
• 47:05
  boundaries.
• 47:06
  It's
• 47:07
  amazing
• 47:07
  what
• 47:08
  they
• 47:08
  did.
• 47:08
  And
• 47:08
  they
• 47:09
  would.
• 47:09
  I.
• 47:09
  It
• 47:10
  was
• 47:10
  $85American
• 47:13
  to
• 47:14
  have
• 47:14
  the
• 47:14
  sample
• 47:15
  made
• 47:15
  up.
• 47:15
  Now,
• 47:15
  I
• 47:15
  don't
• 47:16
  know
• 47:16
  if
• 47:16
  that'd
• 47:16
  be
• 47:16
  the
• 47:16
  same
• 47:16
  for
• 47:17
  a
• 47:17
  puppet,
• 47:17
  but
• 47:17
  probably
• 47:18
  in
• 47:18
  that
• 47:18
  range.
• 47:19
  Right.
• 47:19
  And.
• 47:20
  And
• 47:20
  then
• 47:20
  I
• 47:20
  had
• 47:20
  to
• 47:20
  pay
• 47:21
  $25American
• 47:22
  to
• 47:22
  get
• 47:22
  it
• 47:23
  shipped
• 47:23
  to
• 47:24
  Canada.
• 47:24
  Yeah.
• 47:25
  And
• 47:25
  you
• 47:25
  know
• 47:26
  what?
• 47:26
  They
• 47:26
  don't
• 47:26
  do
• 47:27
  anything.
• 47:27
  These
• 47:28
  are
• 47:28
  all
• 47:28
  their
• 47:28
  pictures.
• 47:29
  They
• 47:29
  took
• 47:29
  the
• 47:29
  picture
• 47:30
  of
• 47:30
  the
• 47:30
  front,
• 47:30
  they
• 47:31
  took
• 47:31
  the
• 47:31
  picture
• 47:31
  of
• 47:31
  the
• 47:32
  back,
• 47:32
  they
• 47:32
  took
• 47:33
  the
• 47:33
  picture
• 47:33
  of
• 47:33
  the
• 47:34
  side.
• 47:34
  Well,
• 47:35
  that
• 47:35
  is
• 47:35
  so
• 47:36
  cute.
• 47:36
  And
• 47:37
  just
• 47:37
  sent
• 47:37
  it
• 47:37
  to
• 47:38
  me.
• 47:38
  So
• 47:38
  they
• 47:38
  would
• 47:38
  do,
• 47:39
  I'm
• 47:39
  sure,
• 47:39
  the
• 47:39
  same
• 47:39
  thing
• 47:40
  for
• 47:40
  you,
• 47:40
  except
• 47:41
  they
• 47:41
  put
• 47:41
  it
• 47:41
  on
• 47:41
  their
• 47:41
  hand.
• 47:42
  Yeah.
• 47:43
  Anyway,
• 47:44
  sorry.
• 47:44
  Sorry
• 47:44
  to
• 47:44
  digress
• 47:45
  there,
• 47:45
  but
• 47:45
  I
• 47:45
  think
• 47:46
  we're
• 47:46
  just.
• 47:46
  You've
• 47:46
  done
• 47:46
  it
• 47:46
  so
• 47:47
  wonderful.
• 47:47
  I
• 47:47
  want.
• 47:47
  And
• 47:48
  I
• 47:48
  always
• 47:48
  want
• 47:48
  to
• 47:48
  bring
• 47:49
  value
• 47:49
  to
• 47:50
  our
• 47:50
  listeners,
• 47:51
  to
• 47:51
  understand
• 47:51
  there's
• 47:52
  so
• 47:52
  many
• 47:52
  ways
• 47:54
  we
• 47:54
  live
• 47:54
  in
• 47:54
  a
• 47:55
  fantasy
• 47:55
  world
• 47:55
  as
• 47:56
  children's
• 47:56
  book
• 47:56
  authors.
• 47:57
  The
• 47:57
  imagination
• 47:58
  is
• 47:58
  boundless.
• 47:59
  Absolutely.
• 48:00
  I
• 48:01
  want
• 48:01
  to
• 48:01
  talk
• 48:01
  to
• 48:02
  you
• 48:02
  about
• 48:02
  your
• 48:02
  theme.
• 48:03
  I
• 48:03
  want
• 48:03
  to
• 48:03
  come
• 48:04
  back
• 48:04
  to
• 48:04
  your
• 48:04
  book.
• 48:05
  I
• 48:05
  know
• 48:05
  you
• 48:05
  have
• 48:06
  a
• 48:06
  clear
• 48:06
  theme
• 48:07
  in
• 48:07
  your
• 48:07
  book
• 48:07
  and
• 48:08
  it's
• 48:08
  right
• 48:08
  on
• 48:08
  the
• 48:08
  back
• 48:09
  of
• 48:09
  the
• 48:10
  book.
• 48:10
  And
• 48:10
  I
• 48:11
  really
• 48:11
  like
• 48:11
  that.
• 48:12
  Join
• 48:12
  Fin
• 48:13
  as
• 48:13
  he
• 48:13
  discovers
• 48:14
  the
• 48:14
  true
• 48:14
  meaning
• 48:15
  of
• 48:15
  home
• 48:16
  and
• 48:16
  how
• 48:16
  our
• 48:17
  perspective
• 48:17
  can
• 48:18
  change
• 48:18
  everything.
• 48:19
  Would
• 48:19
  that
• 48:19
  be
• 48:20
  the
• 48:20
  underlying
• 48:21
  story?
• 48:22
  Yes.
• 48:22
  Yeah.
• 48:23
  Just
• 48:23
  that
• 48:24
  coming
• 48:24
  back
• 48:25
  to
• 48:25
  the
• 48:25
  good
• 48:26
  and
• 48:27
  realizing
• 48:28
  that
• 48:28
  sometimes
• 48:29
  there
• 48:29
  is
• 48:30
  value
• 48:30
  in
• 48:31
  being
• 48:31
  able
• 48:31
  to
• 48:31
  step
• 48:32
  away
• 48:32
  from
• 48:32
  what
• 48:33
  we
• 48:33
  have
• 48:34
  in
• 48:34
  order
• 48:34
  to
• 48:34
  realize
• 48:35
  how
• 48:35
  good
• 48:35
  we
• 48:35
  actually
• 48:35
  have
• 48:36
  it.
• 48:36
  And
• 48:37
  then
• 48:37
  when
• 48:37
  we
• 48:37
  come
• 48:37
  back,
• 48:37
  our
• 48:37
  eyes
• 48:38
  are
• 48:38
  opened
• 48:38
  to
• 48:38
  something
• 48:39
  new.
• 48:39
  You
• 48:40
  have
• 48:40
  perspective,
• 48:40
  gratitude,
• 48:42
  realizing
• 48:42
  the
• 48:43
  good
• 48:43
  in
• 48:43
  what
• 48:43
  we
• 48:43
  have.
• 48:44
  When
• 48:44
  you
• 48:44
  go
• 48:44
  to
• 48:45
  the
• 48:45
  school
• 48:45
  assemblies,
• 48:46
  is
• 48:46
  that
• 48:46
  your
• 48:47
  central
• 48:48
  teaching?
• 48:49
  Yes.
• 48:50
  Yeah.
• 48:50
  So
• 48:50
  I'll
• 48:51
  usually
• 48:51
  read
• 48:51
  the
• 48:51
  book
• 48:52
  and
• 48:53
  then
• 48:53
  we
• 48:53
  will
• 48:54
  talk
• 48:54
  about
• 48:54
  the
• 48:54
  themes
• 48:54
  of
• 48:54
  the
• 48:55
  book.
• 48:55
  Perspective.
• 48:56
  We
• 48:56
  do
• 48:56
  some
• 48:56
  fun
• 48:57
  hands
• 48:57
  on
• 48:58
  interactive
• 48:58
  activities
• 48:59
  with
• 48:59
  that.
• 48:59
  And
• 49:00
  then
• 49:00
  I
• 49:00
  talk
• 49:00
  a
• 49:01
  little
• 49:01
  bit
• 49:01
  about
• 49:01
  the
• 49:01
  publishing
• 49:02
  process,
• 49:02
  the
• 49:03
  hybrid
• 49:03
  publishing
• 49:04
  process.
• 49:04
  Okay,
• 49:05
  terrific.
• 49:06
  Like
• 49:07
  we
• 49:07
  were
• 49:07
  talking
• 49:07
  about
• 49:08
  before,
• 49:08
  on
• 49:09
  your
• 49:09
  website,
• 49:09
  you
• 49:09
  have
• 49:10
  a
• 49:10
  teaser.
• 49:10
  Just
• 49:11
  like
• 49:11
  I
• 49:11
  tease
• 49:11
  people
• 49:12
  at
• 49:12
  the
• 49:12
  beginning
• 49:12
  of
• 49:12
  the
• 49:12
  show,
• 49:13
  you
• 49:13
  have
• 49:13
  a
• 49:13
  teaser
• 49:14
  of
• 49:14
  a
• 49:14
  typewriter
• 49:16
  saying,
• 49:17
  your
• 49:17
  next
• 49:18
  book
• 49:18
  is
• 49:18
  coming.
• 49:18
  So
• 49:19
  talk
• 49:19
  to
• 49:19
  us
• 49:20
  about
• 49:20
  your
• 49:20
  writing
• 49:20
  process.
• 49:21
  So
• 49:21
  share
• 49:22
  some
• 49:22
  insights
• 49:23
  into
• 49:23
  your
• 49:24
  development
• 49:25
  and
• 49:25
  the
• 49:25
  writing
• 49:26
  process
• 49:26
  of
• 49:26
  your
• 49:27
  children's
• 49:27
  books.
• 49:28
  Okay.
• 49:29
  With
• 49:30
  this
• 49:30
  next
• 49:30
  book
• 49:31
  that
• 49:31
  I'm
• 49:31
  writing,
• 49:32
  I
• 49:33
  started
• 49:34
  at
• 49:34
  the
• 49:34
  beginning
• 49:35
  and
• 49:36
  then
• 49:37
  I
• 49:37
  skipped
• 49:38
  to
• 49:38
  the
• 49:38
  end
• 49:39
  because
• 49:40
  my
• 49:40
  emphasis,
• 49:41
  the
• 49:41
  ending
• 49:41
  is
• 49:42
  always
• 49:42
  the
• 49:42
  best
• 49:42
  part.
• 49:42
  Right.
• 49:43
  It's
• 49:43
  where
• 49:44
  ties
• 49:45
  in
• 49:45
  and
• 49:46
  the
• 49:47
  moral
• 49:47
  of
• 49:47
  the
• 49:48
  story
• 49:48
  is
• 49:48
  made
• 49:48
  clear.
• 49:49
  And
• 49:49
  it's
• 49:49
  just
• 49:49
  the
• 49:50
  gem.
• 49:50
  So
• 49:51
  can
• 49:51
  I
• 49:51
  just
• 49:51
  pick
• 49:52
  up
• 49:52
  on
• 49:52
  that
• 49:52
  for
• 49:52
  one
• 49:52
  second?
• 49:53
  Because
• 49:53
  when
• 49:53
  I
• 49:54
  was
• 49:54
  telling
• 49:54
  you
• 49:54
  I
• 49:54
  did
• 49:54
  the
• 49:55
  school
• 49:55
  reading
• 49:56
  and
• 49:57
  then
• 49:57
  I
• 49:57
  got
• 49:57
  to
• 49:57
  actually
• 49:58
  take
• 49:59
  the
• 49:59
  students
• 50:00
  through
• 50:01
  lessons
• 50:01
  about
• 50:01
  how
• 50:02
  to
• 50:02
  write
• 50:02
  a
• 50:02
  children's
• 50:03
  book,
• 50:04
  the
• 50:04
  first
• 50:04
  thing
• 50:04
  I
• 50:04
  said
• 50:05
  to
• 50:05
  them
• 50:05
  was,
• 50:06
  begin
• 50:07
  with
• 50:07
  the
• 50:07
  end
• 50:07
  in
• 50:08
  mind.
• 50:09
  Yes.
• 50:09
  Yes.
• 50:10
  So
• 50:10
  I
• 50:10
  just
• 50:10
  wanted
• 50:11
  to
• 50:11
  say
• 50:11
  that
• 50:12
  it
• 50:12
  seems
• 50:13
  to
• 50:13
  me,
• 50:14
  following
• 50:14
  up
• 50:14
  on
• 50:14
  what
• 50:15
  you're
• 50:15
  talking
• 50:15
  about,
• 50:16
  and
• 50:16
  you
• 50:16
  and
• 50:16
  I
• 50:17
  have
• 50:17
  exactly
• 50:17
  the
• 50:18
  same
• 50:18
  thought,
• 50:18
  is
• 50:19
  begin
• 50:19
  with
• 50:20
  the
• 50:20
  end
• 50:20
  in
• 50:20
  mind.
• 50:20
  It
• 50:21
  really
• 50:21
  helps.
• 50:22
  The
• 50:22
  end
• 50:22
  is
• 50:22
  everything,
• 50:23
  in
• 50:23
  my
• 50:23
  opinion.
• 50:23
  And
• 50:24
  yeah,
• 50:24
  so
• 50:24
  then
• 50:24
  I'll.
• 50:25
  I
• 50:26
  started
• 50:26
  with
• 50:26
  the
• 50:26
  beginning,
• 50:26
  jumped
• 50:27
  to
• 50:27
  the
• 50:27
  end,
• 50:28
  wrote
• 50:28
  that
• 50:28
  because
• 50:29
  I
• 50:29
  didn't
• 50:29
  want
• 50:30
  that
• 50:30
  to
• 50:30
  just
• 50:31
  be
• 50:31
  tied
• 50:32
  up
• 50:32
  really
• 50:32
  quickly.
• 50:32
  And
• 50:33
  I
• 50:33
  wanted
• 50:33
  to
• 50:33
  give
• 50:34
  it
• 50:34
  the
• 50:34
  emphasis
• 50:34
  and
• 50:35
  the
• 50:35
  amount
• 50:35
  of
• 50:36
  pages
• 50:36
  and
• 50:37
  wording
• 50:37
  that
• 50:37
  it
• 50:37
  deserved.
• 50:38
  Then
• 50:38
  I
• 50:38
  worked
• 50:39
  in
• 50:39
  the
• 50:40
  middle,
• 50:40
  and
• 50:40
  now
• 50:40
  I'm
• 50:41
  still
• 50:41
  working
• 50:41
  on
• 50:41
  the
• 50:41
  middle
• 50:42
  of
• 50:42
  it
• 50:43
  and
• 50:43
  I'm
• 50:43
  trying
• 50:44
  to
• 50:44
  tie
• 50:45
  it
• 50:45
  up.
• 50:45
  And
• 50:45
  it's
• 50:46
  funny
• 50:46
  because
• 50:46
  I've
• 50:47
  heard
• 50:47
  from
• 50:47
  several
• 50:48
  sources
• 50:48
  that
• 50:49
  you
• 50:50
  should
• 50:50
  write
• 50:50
  it
• 50:50
  all
• 50:51
  in
• 50:51
  a
• 50:52
  rough
• 50:52
  draft.
• 50:52
  They're
• 50:52
  like,
• 50:53
  don't
• 50:53
  edit
• 50:53
  as
• 50:53
  you
• 50:53
  go.
• 50:54
  That's
• 50:54
  advice
• 50:54
  that
• 50:54
  people
• 50:55
  give.
• 50:55
  But
• 50:55
  I've
• 50:56
  always
• 50:56
  been
• 50:56
  the
• 50:56
  writer
• 50:57
  who
• 50:57
  edits
• 50:58
  as
• 50:58
  I
• 50:58
  go
• 50:59
  when
• 50:59
  my
• 50:59
  brain
• 51:00
  works.
• 51:00
  And
• 51:00
  I
• 51:00
  have
• 51:00
  to
• 51:01
  do
• 51:01
  that.
• 51:01
  I
• 51:01
  don't
• 51:01
  know
• 51:02
  why
• 51:02
  I
• 51:02
  cannot
• 51:02
  pull
• 51:03
  my.
• 51:03
  And
• 51:03
  maybe
• 51:04
  my
• 51:04
  stories
• 51:04
  would
• 51:05
  benefit
• 51:05
  from
• 51:06
  me
• 51:06
  not
• 51:06
  editing
• 51:07
  as
• 51:07
  I
• 51:07
  go.
• 51:07
  I
• 51:07
  haven't
• 51:08
  tried
• 51:08
  it,
• 51:08
  so
• 51:08
  maybe
• 51:08
  I
• 51:08
  need
• 51:09
  to
• 51:09
  try
• 51:09
  it.
• 51:09
  But
• 51:10
  for
• 51:10
  me
• 51:10
  and
• 51:10
  the
• 51:10
  way
• 51:11
  my
• 51:11
  brain
• 51:11
  works,
• 51:12
  I
• 51:12
  have
• 51:12
  to
• 51:13
  just
• 51:13
  edit
• 51:13
  as
• 51:13
  I
• 51:13
  go.
• 51:14
  And
• 51:14
  I
• 51:14
  feel
• 51:14
  like
• 51:14
  that
• 51:15
  for
• 51:15
  me,
• 51:15
  that
• 51:16
  produces
• 51:16
  my
• 51:16
  best
• 51:17
  work
• 51:17
  is
• 51:17
  when
• 51:17
  I
• 51:17
  edit
• 51:18
  as
• 51:18
  I
• 51:18
  go.
• 51:18
  Good
• 51:19
  for
• 51:19
  you.
• 51:20
  So
• 51:20
  I
• 51:20
  know
• 51:21
  you
• 51:21
  talked
• 51:21
  about
• 51:21
  drawing
• 51:22
  from
• 51:22
  your
• 51:22
  own
• 51:23
  personal
• 51:23
  experience
• 51:24
  in
• 51:24
  your
• 51:24
  writing
• 51:25
  process.
• 51:26
  Did
• 51:26
  you
• 51:26
  conduct
• 51:27
  any
• 51:27
  additional
• 51:29
  research
• 51:29
  when
• 51:30
  you
• 51:30
  were
• 51:31
  writing
• 51:31
  your
• 51:32
  book?
• 51:33
  So
• 51:33
  this
• 51:33
  book,
• 51:33
  the
• 51:34
  Chickadee
• 51:34
  who
• 51:34
  knew,
• 51:34
  didn't
• 51:35
  have
• 51:35
  a
• 51:35
  lot
• 51:35
  of
• 51:36
  research
• 51:36
  to
• 51:37
  be
• 51:37
  done.
• 51:37
  My
• 51:38
  sister.
• 51:39
  Some
• 51:39
  of
• 51:39
  the
• 51:39
  inspiration
• 51:40
  came
• 51:40
  from
• 51:40
  my
• 51:40
  sister,
• 51:41
  who
• 51:41
  lives
• 51:41
  in
• 51:42
  a
• 51:42
  very
• 51:42
  mountainous
• 51:42
  area.
• 51:43
  She
• 51:44
  shows
• 51:44
  us
• 51:44
  videos
• 51:45
  and
• 51:45
  pictures
• 51:45
  of
• 51:45
  all
• 51:45
  these
• 51:45
  cool
• 51:46
  birds
• 51:46
  that
• 51:46
  come
• 51:46
  into
• 51:47
  her
• 51:47
  yard.
• 51:47
  And
• 51:48
  one
• 51:48
  of
• 51:48
  them
• 51:48
  is
• 51:48
  the
• 51:49
  chickadee.
• 51:49
  And
• 51:50
  we
• 51:50
  all
• 51:50
  just
• 51:50
  kind
• 51:51
  of.
• 51:51
  She
• 51:51
  fell
• 51:52
  in
• 51:52
  love
• 51:52
  with
• 51:52
  the
• 51:52
  chickadee
• 51:53
  was
• 51:53
  telling
• 51:53
  us
• 51:53
  about
• 51:54
  it
• 51:54
  and
• 51:54
  showing
• 51:54
  us.
• 51:54
  And
• 51:55
  I
• 51:55
  thought,
• 51:55
  oh,
• 51:55
  that
• 51:55
  is
• 51:55
  such
• 51:56
  a
• 51:56
  cute
• 51:56
  bird.
• 51:56
  And
• 51:56
  it's
• 51:57
  call
• 51:57
  I
• 51:57
  love.
• 51:58
  It's
• 51:58
  called
• 51:58
  the
• 51:58
  Chickadee
• 51:59
  is
• 51:59
  actually
• 51:59
  an
• 51:59
  onomatopoeia
• 52:00
  because
• 52:00
  it's
• 52:01
  call
• 52:01
  sounds
• 52:03
  what
• 52:03
  it
• 52:03
  like
• 52:04
  its
• 52:04
  name,
• 52:05
  right?
• 52:05
  It
• 52:05
  sounds.
• 52:05
  The
• 52:05
  Chickadee's
• 52:06
  call
• 52:06
  sounds
• 52:07
  like
• 52:07
  Chickadee.
• 52:07
  Dee
• 52:07
  Dee
• 52:08
  Dee.
• 52:08
  It's
• 52:08
  really
• 52:09
  fun.
• 52:09
  So
• 52:09
  I
• 52:09
  just
• 52:09
  love
• 52:09
  that.
• 52:10
  I
• 52:10
  thought
• 52:10
  that
• 52:10
  is
• 52:10
  just
• 52:10
  so
• 52:11
  whimsical.
• 52:11
  And
• 52:13
  so
• 52:13
  the
• 52:13
  only
• 52:13
  research
• 52:13
  I
• 52:14
  did
• 52:14
  with
• 52:14
  that
• 52:14
  was
• 52:14
  based
• 52:14
  off
• 52:15
  of
• 52:15
  her
• 52:15
  word.
• 52:15
  And
• 52:15
  then
• 52:15
  I
• 52:16
  googled
• 52:16
  a
• 52:16
  little
• 52:17
  bit
• 52:17
  more
• 52:17
  to
• 52:18
  find
• 52:18
  a
• 52:18
  little
• 52:19
  bit
• 52:19
  more
• 52:19
  out
• 52:19
  about
• 52:19
  that
• 52:20
  and
• 52:20
  did
• 52:20
  realize
• 52:21
  indeed,
• 52:21
  the
• 52:21
  chickadee
• 52:22
  is
• 52:22
  named
• 52:23
  the
• 52:23
  chickadee
• 52:23
  because
• 52:24
  of
• 52:24
  its
• 52:24
  call.
• 52:24
  And
• 52:25
  that's.
• 52:25
  This
• 52:25
  is
• 52:25
  what
• 52:25
  it
• 52:26
  sounds
• 52:26
  like.
• 52:26
  And
• 52:26
  so
• 52:27
  that
• 52:27
  I
• 52:27
  did
• 52:27
  that
• 52:27
  research,
• 52:28
  I
• 52:28
  also
• 52:28
  researched
• 52:29
  a
• 52:29
  little
• 52:29
  bit
• 52:29
  about.
• 52:30
  I
• 52:30
  wanted
• 52:31
  the
• 52:31
  antagonist
• 52:32
  of
• 52:32
  my
• 52:32
  book
• 52:33
  to
• 52:33
  be
• 52:34
  an
• 52:34
  undesirable
• 52:35
  bird.
• 52:35
  And
• 52:35
  so
• 52:36
  I
• 52:36
  looked
• 52:36
  up
• 52:36
  what
• 52:37
  birds
• 52:37
  are,
• 52:37
  I
• 52:37
  guess
• 52:38
  trash
• 52:38
  birds,
• 52:39
  so
• 52:39
  to
• 52:39
  speak.
• 52:40
  And
• 52:40
  a
• 52:40
  pigeon
• 52:41
  happened
• 52:41
  to
• 52:41
  be
• 52:42
  one
• 52:42
  of
• 52:42
  them.
• 52:42
  That
• 52:42
  was
• 52:42
  just
• 52:42
  a
• 52:42
  nuisance.
• 52:43
  And
• 52:43
  I
• 52:43
  thought
• 52:43
  that's
• 52:44
  perfect.
• 52:44
  That'll
• 52:44
  be
• 52:45
  the
• 52:45
  villain
• 52:46
  of
• 52:46
  the
• 52:46
  story
• 52:46
  is
• 52:46
  the
• 52:47
  pigeon.
• 52:47
  Thank
• 52:47
  you
• 52:48
  for
• 52:48
  sharing
• 52:48
  that.
• 52:49
  I
• 52:49
  want
• 52:49
  to
• 52:49
  talk
• 52:50
  to
• 52:50
  you
• 52:50
  a
• 52:50
  little
• 52:50
  bit
• 52:50
  about
• 52:51
  success.
• 52:52
  So
• 52:53
  obviously
• 52:54
  you're
• 52:54
  not
• 52:55
  coming
• 52:55
  to
• 52:55
  this
• 52:55
  for
• 52:56
  fame
• 52:56
  and
• 52:56
  fortune.
• 52:57
  We
• 52:57
  talked
• 52:58
  about
• 52:59
  your
• 52:59
  book
• 52:59
  business
• 52:59
  plan
• 53:00
  earlier.
• 53:00
  But
• 53:01
  let's
• 53:01
  delve
• 53:02
  into
• 53:02
  what
• 53:03
  was
• 53:03
  your
• 53:03
  original
• 53:04
  goal
• 53:05
  and
• 53:05
  how
• 53:06
  are
• 53:06
  you
• 53:06
  measuring
• 53:07
  what
• 53:08
  success
• 53:08
  looked
• 53:09
  like
• 53:09
  to
• 53:09
  you
• 53:09
  for
• 53:10
  the
• 53:10
  book?
• 53:11
  I
• 53:11
  feel
• 53:11
  like
• 53:11
  that
• 53:11
  one
• 53:12
  can
• 53:12
  be
• 53:12
  a
• 53:12
  little
• 53:13
  bit
• 53:13
  tricky
• 53:14
  because
• 53:16
  really
• 53:16
  measuring
• 53:16
  success
• 53:17
  is
• 53:17
  hard.
• 53:17
  We
• 53:17
  have
• 53:18
  to
• 53:18
  jump
• 53:18
  in
• 53:18
  and
• 53:18
  get
• 53:18
  our
• 53:19
  feet
• 53:19
  wet
• 53:19
  before
• 53:19
  we
• 53:19
  can
• 53:20
  determine
• 53:20
  what
• 53:20
  it's
• 53:21
  going
• 53:21
  to
• 53:21
  look
• 53:21
  like
• 53:21
  for
• 53:22
  us.
• 53:22
  But
• 53:23
  for
• 53:23
  me,
• 53:23
  there's
• 53:24
  two
• 53:24
  different
• 53:24
  sides
• 53:25
  to
• 53:25
  it.
• 53:25
  There's
• 53:26
  obviously
• 53:26
  the
• 53:27
  business
• 53:27
  side
• 53:27
  of
• 53:28
  it.
• 53:28
  And
• 53:29
  I
• 53:29
  feel
• 53:30
  like
• 53:30
  for
• 53:30
  me,
• 53:31
  in
• 53:31
  order
• 53:31
  to
• 53:32
  continue
• 53:32
  writing,
• 53:33
  I
• 53:33
  have
• 53:33
  to
• 53:33
  be
• 53:34
  earning,
• 53:35
  not
• 53:35
  just
• 53:36
  breaking
• 53:36
  even,
• 53:36
  but
• 53:37
  earning
• 53:37
  enough
• 53:37
  money
• 53:38
  to
• 53:38
  then
• 53:38
  be
• 53:38
  able
• 53:38
  to
• 53:38
  do
• 53:38
  another
• 53:39
  book.
• 53:39
  And
• 53:39
  so
• 53:40
  there
• 53:40
  is
• 53:40
  that,
• 53:41
  that
• 53:42
  success
• 53:42
  of
• 53:43
  aspect
• 53:43
  of
• 53:44
  okay,
• 53:45
  this
• 53:45
  does
• 53:45
  have
• 53:45
  to
• 53:45
  have
• 53:46
  some
• 53:46
  monetary
• 53:47
  gain.
• 53:47
  Not
• 53:48
  for
• 53:48
  like
• 53:48
  you
• 53:48
  say,
• 53:49
  not
• 53:49
  for
• 53:49
  reasons
• 53:49
  of
• 53:49
  fame
• 53:50
  or
• 53:50
  fortune,
• 53:50
  but
• 53:50
  just
• 53:51
  to
• 53:51
  be
• 53:51
  able
• 53:51
  to
• 53:51
  continue
• 53:52
  doing
• 53:52
  it.
• 53:52
  So
• 53:53
  your
• 53:54
  habit.
• 53:54
  Yes,
• 53:55
  to
• 53:55
  feed
• 53:55
  my
• 53:55
  habit.
• 53:57
  Exactly.
• 53:58
  And
• 53:58
  then
• 53:59
  the
• 53:59
  other
• 54:00
  side
• 54:00
  of
• 54:00
  it
• 54:00
  is
• 54:00
  the
• 54:00
  inspirational
• 54:01
  side.
• 54:02
  And
• 54:03
  so
• 54:03
  I
• 54:04
  felt
• 54:04
  my
• 54:05
  throat
• 54:06
  me
• 54:06
  success
• 54:06
  in
• 54:06
  that
• 54:06
  aspect
• 54:07
  is
• 54:07
  if
• 54:07
  I
• 54:08
  can
• 54:08
  just
• 54:08
  inspire
• 54:09
  or
• 54:09
  delight
• 54:09
  even
• 54:10
  one
• 54:10
  child,
• 54:11
  then
• 54:11
  it's
• 54:11
  successful
• 54:12
  to
• 54:12
  me.
• 54:13
  I
• 54:13
  want
• 54:13
  to
• 54:13
  pick
• 54:13
  up
• 54:14
  on
• 54:14
  that
• 54:14
  a
• 54:14
  little
• 54:14
  bit
• 54:14
  because
• 54:15
  you
• 54:15
  talked
• 54:15
  about
• 54:15
  you'd
• 54:16
  like
• 54:16
  to
• 54:16
  continue
• 54:17
  to
• 54:17
  write
• 54:17
  and
• 54:18
  bring
• 54:18
  more
• 54:19
  children's
• 54:19
  books
• 54:20
  into
• 54:20
  the
• 54:20
  world.
• 54:21
  How
• 54:21
  do
• 54:21
  you
• 54:22
  see
• 54:22
  being
• 54:22
  a
• 54:22
  children's
• 54:23
  book
• 54:23
  author
• 54:23
  in
• 54:24
  the
• 54:24
  grand
• 54:24
  scheme
• 54:25
  of
• 54:25
  your
• 54:25
  life?
• 54:27
  I
• 54:27
  don't
• 54:28
  know.
• 54:28
  That's
• 54:28
  a
• 54:28
  tough
• 54:28
  one.
• 54:29
  I
• 54:29
  feel
• 54:29
  like
• 54:29
  I.
• 54:30
  And
• 54:30
  it's
• 54:30
  hard
• 54:31
  for
• 54:31
  me.
• 54:31
  The
• 54:31
  hard
• 54:31
  thing
• 54:31
  for
• 54:32
  me
• 54:32
  is
• 54:32
  balancing
• 54:32
  right.
• 54:33
  Because
• 54:33
  I
• 54:33
  am
• 54:34
  a
• 54:34
  mom,
• 54:34
  I'm
• 54:34
  primarily
• 54:35
  a
• 54:35
  stay
• 54:35
  at
• 54:35
  home
• 54:36
  parent.
• 54:36
  I
• 54:37
  stay
• 54:37
  at
• 54:37
  home
• 54:37
  with
• 54:37
  my,
• 54:37
  my
• 54:37
  kids
• 54:38
  and
• 54:38
  that's
• 54:39
  my
• 54:39
  main
• 54:39
  focus
• 54:39
  in
• 54:40
  the
• 54:40
  grand
• 54:40
  scheme
• 54:41
  of
• 54:41
  my
• 54:41
  life.
• 54:41
  If
• 54:41
  I
• 54:41
  look
• 54:42
  30
• 54:43
  years
• 54:43
  down
• 54:43
  the
• 54:43
  road,
• 54:44
  I
• 54:44
  would
• 54:44
  love
• 54:44
  to
• 54:45
  have
• 54:45
  written
• 54:47
  a
• 54:47
  good
• 54:47
  handful
• 54:48
  more
• 54:49
  of
• 54:49
  books.
• 54:50
  I
• 54:50
  would
• 54:50
  love
• 54:50
  to,
• 54:51
  again,
• 54:51
  be
• 54:51
  able
• 54:52
  to
• 54:52
  somehow
• 54:52
  be
• 54:53
  signed
• 54:53
  on
• 54:53
  with
• 54:54
  a
• 54:54
  traditional
• 54:54
  publisher
• 54:55
  so
• 54:55
  I
• 54:55
  can
• 54:55
  just
• 54:56
  focus
• 54:56
  on
• 54:56
  the
• 54:56
  writing
• 54:56
  and
• 54:57
  not
• 54:57
  the
• 54:57
  marketing.
• 54:58
  So
• 54:58
  that's
• 54:58
  where
• 54:59
  I'm
• 54:59
  viewing
• 54:59
  it
• 54:59
  in
• 54:59
  the
• 55:00
  grand
• 55:00
  scheme.
• 55:00
  I
• 55:00
  want
• 55:00
  to
• 55:01
  make
• 55:01
  this
• 55:01
  a
• 55:01
  career,
• 55:01
  but
• 55:02
  at
• 55:02
  the
• 55:02
  same
• 55:02
  time,
• 55:03
  balancing
• 55:04
  that
• 55:04
  with
• 55:04
  home
• 55:04
  life
• 55:05
  and
• 55:05
  making
• 55:05
  sure
• 55:05
  that
• 55:05
  my
• 55:06
  kids
• 55:06
  get
• 55:06
  the
• 55:07
  time
• 55:07
  and
• 55:07
  attention
• 55:07
  from
• 55:08
  me
• 55:08
  that
• 55:08
  they
• 55:08
  deserve.
• 55:09
  How
• 55:09
  do
• 55:09
  you
• 55:10
  set
• 55:10
  some
• 55:10
  time
• 55:11
  aside
• 55:11
  for
• 55:12
  writing?
• 55:12
  Tell
• 55:12
  us
• 55:13
  that
• 55:13
  process,
• 55:14
  especially
• 55:14
  with
• 55:14
  four
• 55:15
  young
• 55:15
  boys.
• 55:15
  Wow.
• 55:16
  Yeah,
• 55:17
  I.
• 55:18
  And
• 55:18
  I
• 55:18
  had
• 55:18
  to
• 55:18
  get
• 55:19
  to
• 55:19
  the
• 55:19
  point
• 55:19
  where
• 55:20
  I
• 55:20
  let
• 55:20
  some
• 55:20
  other
• 55:21
  things
• 55:21
  go
• 55:21
  a
• 55:21
  little
• 55:22
  bit.
• 55:22
  I
• 55:23
  feel
• 55:23
  like
• 55:23
  I'm
• 55:23
  always.
• 55:24
  I've
• 55:24
  always
• 55:25
  wanted
• 55:25
  a
• 55:25
  very
• 55:26
  neat,
• 55:26
  clean
• 55:27
  house.
• 55:27
  And
• 55:28
  I
• 55:28
  got
• 55:28
  to
• 55:28
  the
• 55:28
  point
• 55:28
  with
• 55:29
  kids
• 55:29
  where
• 55:29
  I
• 55:29
  realized,
• 55:29
  you
• 55:30
  know
• 55:30
  what?
• 55:31
  I'm
• 55:31
  going
• 55:31
  in
• 55:31
  literally
• 55:32
  insane
• 55:32
  here
• 55:32
  because
• 55:33
  I'm
• 55:33
  trying
• 55:33
  to
• 55:33
  clean
• 55:34
  something,
• 55:35
  and
• 55:35
  then
• 55:35
  five
• 55:36
  minutes
• 55:36
  later,
• 55:36
  it
• 55:36
  gets
• 55:36
  messed
• 55:37
  up.
• 55:37
  And
• 55:37
  so
• 55:38
  it's
• 55:38
  like
• 55:39
  the
• 55:39
  literal
• 55:39
  definition
• 55:40
  of
• 55:40
  insanity.
• 55:41
  Right.
• 55:42
  And
• 55:42
  so
• 55:43
  I
• 55:43
  had
• 55:43
  to
• 55:43
  realize,
• 55:44
  okay,
• 55:44
  I
• 55:44
  can
• 55:44
  let
• 55:44
  go
• 55:45
  of
• 55:45
  some
• 55:45
  of
• 55:46
  those
• 55:46
  things,
• 55:46
  the
• 55:47
  housework,
• 55:47
  and
• 55:47
  make
• 55:48
  a
• 55:48
  little
• 55:48
  more
• 55:48
  time
• 55:49
  for
• 55:49
  something
• 55:50
  that
• 55:50
  I
• 55:50
  enjoy
• 55:50
  in
• 55:51
  my
• 55:51
  heart,
• 55:51
  like
• 55:51
  writing.
• 55:52
  And
• 55:52
  so
• 55:53
  I
• 55:53
  actually.
• 55:54
  I
• 55:55
  listen
• 55:55
  to
• 55:55
  some
• 55:56
  music.
• 55:56
  I
• 55:57
  do
• 55:57
  music
• 55:57
  therapy
• 55:58
  to
• 55:58
  help
• 55:58
  with
• 55:59
  anxiety
• 55:59
  and
• 55:59
  depression.
• 56:00
  And
• 56:00
  so
• 56:00
  while
• 56:01
  I
• 56:01
  do
• 56:01
  that,
• 56:02
  I
• 56:02
  write.
• 56:03
  It's
• 56:03
  just
• 56:03
  classical
• 56:04
  music
• 56:05
  and
• 56:05
  classical
• 56:06
  and
• 56:06
  rhythmic
• 56:07
  music.
• 56:07
  And
• 56:07
  so
• 56:08
  I
• 56:08
  will
• 56:08
  listen
• 56:09
  to
• 56:09
  that.
• 56:09
  And
• 56:09
  that's
• 56:09
  my
• 56:09
  time.
• 56:09
  I
• 56:10
  set
• 56:10
  aside.
• 56:10
  It's
• 56:10
  about
• 56:11
  30
• 56:11
  minutes
• 56:11
  a
• 56:11
  day,
• 56:12
  five
• 56:12
  days
• 56:13
  a
• 56:13
  week.
• 56:13
  That's
• 56:13
  pretty
• 56:13
  good.
• 56:14
  So
• 56:14
  I
• 56:14
  just.
• 56:15
  And
• 56:16
  I
• 56:16
  would
• 56:17
  like
• 56:17
  to
• 56:17
  share
• 56:17
  this
• 56:17
  tip,
• 56:18
  if
• 56:18
  that's
• 56:18
  okay,
• 56:18
  that
• 56:19
  I
• 56:19
  found.
• 56:19
  Oh,
• 56:20
  absolutely.
• 56:21
  I
• 56:21
  took
• 56:21
  a
• 56:21
  time
• 56:22
  management
• 56:22
  course.
• 56:23
  There's
• 56:24
  a.
• 56:24
  It's
• 56:24
  called
• 56:24
  BBC
• 56:25
  Maestro,
• 56:26
  and
• 56:27
  I
• 56:27
  wish
• 56:27
  I
• 56:27
  could
• 56:28
  remember
• 56:28
  the
• 56:28
  name
• 56:28
  of
• 56:28
  the
• 56:29
  man
• 56:29
  who
• 56:29
  taught
• 56:30
  this
• 56:30
  course,
• 56:30
  but
• 56:30
  he
• 56:31
  did
• 56:31
  a
• 56:31
  phenomenal
• 56:31
  job.
• 56:32
  And
• 56:32
  he
• 56:32
  talked
• 56:32
  about
• 56:32
  how
• 56:33
  writers,
• 56:33
  some
• 56:34
  of
• 56:34
  the
• 56:34
  most
• 56:34
  successful
• 56:35
  writers
• 56:35
  he's
• 56:35
  found,
• 56:36
  only
• 56:37
  dedicate
• 56:37
  a
• 56:38
  small
• 56:38
  chunk
• 56:38
  of
• 56:38
  time
• 56:39
  to
• 56:39
  writing
• 56:39
  each
• 56:39
  day.
• 56:40
  He
• 56:40
  said,
• 56:41
  not
• 56:41
  more
• 56:41
  than.
• 56:42
  I
• 56:42
  can't
• 56:43
  remember
• 56:43
  the
• 56:43
  exact
• 56:43
  numbers,
• 56:44
  but
• 56:44
  they
• 56:45
  don't
• 56:45
  write
• 56:45
  for
• 56:46
  hours
• 56:46
  and
• 56:46
  hours
• 56:46
  every
• 56:47
  day.
• 56:47
  He
• 56:47
  said
• 56:47
  they
• 56:47
  write
• 56:48
  maybe
• 56:48
  40
• 56:48
  minutes
• 56:49
  a
• 56:49
  day.
• 56:50
  And
• 56:50
  he
• 56:50
  said
• 56:50
  that
• 56:50
  keeps
• 56:51
  it
• 56:51
  fresh
• 56:51
  in
• 56:51
  their
• 56:51
  mind,
• 56:52
  but
• 56:52
  it
• 56:52
  also
• 56:54
  allows
• 56:54
  them
• 56:55
  to
• 56:55
  not
• 56:55
  become
• 56:56
  bogged
• 56:56
  down
• 56:57
  and
• 56:58
  lose
• 56:58
  their
• 56:58
  spark.
• 56:59
  And
• 56:59
  so
• 57:00
  I
• 57:00
  took
• 57:01
  that
• 57:01
  to
• 57:01
  heart
• 57:01
  and
• 57:01
  I
• 57:01
  thought,
• 57:01
  okay,
• 57:02
  five
• 57:02
  days
• 57:02
  a
• 57:03
  week
• 57:03
  while
• 57:03
  I
• 57:03
  do
• 57:03
  my
• 57:03
  music,
• 57:04
  I
• 57:04
  can
• 57:04
  write.
• 57:05
  Good
• 57:05
  for
• 57:05
  you.
• 57:06
  That's
• 57:06
  fantastic.
• 57:07
  Thank
• 57:07
  you
• 57:07
  for
• 57:07
  sharing
• 57:08
  that.
• 57:08
  And
• 57:09
  I
• 57:09
  have
• 57:09
  to
• 57:09
  agree
• 57:10
  with
• 57:10
  you,
• 57:10
  too.
• 57:10
  Like,
• 57:11
  it's
• 57:11
  doing
• 57:12
  a
• 57:12
  little
• 57:12
  bit
• 57:13
  every
• 57:13
  day.
• 57:14
  That
• 57:14
  adds
• 57:15
  up
• 57:15
  to
• 57:15
  a
• 57:15
  lot
• 57:15
  over
• 57:16
  a
• 57:16
  year.
• 57:16
  Because
• 57:16
  if
• 57:17
  you
• 57:17
  think
• 57:17
  if
• 57:17
  you
• 57:17
  wrote
• 57:18
  200,
• 57:19
  the
• 57:19
  length
• 57:19
  of
• 57:19
  a
• 57:20
  children's
• 57:20
  book
• 57:21
  is
• 57:21
  between
• 57:22
  500
• 57:24
  and
• 57:24
  a
• 57:24
  thousand
• 57:25
  words.
• 57:26
  And
• 57:26
  if
• 57:26
  you
• 57:26
  wrote
• 57:27
  200
• 57:28
  words
• 57:29
  a
• 57:29
  day
• 57:30
  over
• 57:30
  your
• 57:31
  five
• 57:31
  days,
• 57:32
  you'd
• 57:32
  have
• 57:32
  your
• 57:33
  next
• 57:33
  children's
• 57:34
  book.
• 57:34
  I
• 57:34
  know
• 57:35
  it's
• 57:35
  not
• 57:35
  that
• 57:36
  simple,
• 57:37
  but
• 57:37
  really,
• 57:37
  if
• 57:37
  you
• 57:38
  just
• 57:38
  do
• 57:38
  the
• 57:38
  math,
• 57:38
  five
• 57:39
  times
• 57:39
  200
• 57:39
  is
• 57:40
  a
• 57:40
  thousand.
• 57:40
  It
• 57:40
  adds
• 57:41
  up.
• 57:41
  Yeah.
• 57:41
  Yeah.
• 57:42
  It
• 57:42
  makes
• 57:42
  it
• 57:43
  more.
• 57:43
  More
• 57:43
  doable.
• 57:44
  I
• 57:44
  want
• 57:45
  to
• 57:45
  have
• 57:45
  you
• 57:46
  talk
• 57:46
  to
• 57:46
  aspiring
• 57:47
  authors.
• 57:48
  What
• 57:48
  advice
• 57:49
  would
• 57:49
  you
• 57:49
  give
• 57:49
  to
• 57:50
  aspiring
• 57:51
  children's
• 57:51
  book
• 57:51
  authors
• 57:52
  who
• 57:52
  are
• 57:52
  just
• 57:53
  starting
• 57:53
  out?
• 57:53
  They
• 57:54
  don't
• 57:54
  even
• 57:54
  have
• 57:54
  any
• 57:55
  words
• 57:55
  down.
• 57:56
  They
• 57:56
  just
• 57:56
  have
• 57:57
  this
• 57:57
  great
• 57:58
  children's
• 57:58
  book
• 57:59
  floating
• 57:59
  around
• 57:59
  in
• 57:59
  their
• 58:00
  brain.
• 58:00
  What
• 58:01
  would
• 58:01
  you
• 58:01
  say
• 58:01
  to
• 58:01
  them?
• 58:02
  So
• 58:02
  one
• 58:02
  of
• 58:03
  the
• 58:03
  pieces.
• 58:04
  Pieces
• 58:04
  of
• 58:04
  advice
• 58:05
  that
• 58:05
  the
• 58:06
  publishing
• 58:07
  company
• 58:07
  gave
• 58:07
  me
• 58:08
  was.
• 58:08
  Gave
• 58:09
  all
• 58:09
  of
• 58:09
  us,
• 58:09
  was
• 58:10
  to
• 58:10
  come
• 58:11
  up
• 58:11
  with
• 58:11
  a
• 58:11
  why
• 58:12
  for
• 58:12
  our
• 58:13
  writing
• 58:14
  and
• 58:15
  so
• 58:15
  purpose
• 58:15
  to
• 58:16
  have
• 58:16
  a
• 58:16
  purpose
• 58:16
  behind
• 58:16
  it.
• 58:17
  Mine
• 58:18
  was
• 58:18
  again,
• 58:18
  to
• 58:19
  be
• 58:19
  able
• 58:19
  to
• 58:19
  inspire
• 58:19
  children
• 58:20
  in
• 58:21
  ways
• 58:21
  that
• 58:21
  maybe
• 58:22
  the
• 58:22
  world
• 58:23
  is
• 58:23
  lacking,
• 58:24
  to
• 58:24
  inspire
• 58:25
  them
• 58:25
  in
• 58:25
  positivity.
• 58:26
  And
• 58:26
  so
• 58:27
  I
• 58:28
  come
• 58:28
  up
• 58:28
  with
• 58:28
  that
• 58:28
  why
• 58:29
  and
• 58:29
  then
• 58:29
  let
• 58:29
  that
• 58:29
  fuel
• 58:30
  you
• 58:30
  and
• 58:30
  motivate
• 58:31
  you
• 58:31
  to
• 58:32
  take
• 58:32
  just
• 58:33
  one
• 58:33
  step
• 58:33
  forward
• 58:33
  at
• 58:34
  a
• 58:34
  time.
• 58:35
  And
• 58:35
  I
• 58:36
  think
• 58:37
  passion,
• 58:37
  having
• 58:37
  a
• 58:38
  passion
• 58:38
  for
• 58:38
  that
• 58:39
  can
• 58:40
  really
• 58:41
  help,
• 58:41
  again,
• 58:41
  fuel
• 58:42
  that
• 58:42
  motivation
• 58:43
  and
• 58:43
  give
• 58:43
  us
• 58:43
  kind
• 58:44
  of
• 58:44
  that
• 58:44
  impetus
• 58:44
  to
• 58:45
  just
• 58:45
  move
• 58:45
  forward.
• 58:45
  And
• 58:46
  I
• 58:46
  would
• 58:46
  also
• 58:47
  say
• 58:47
  be
• 58:47
  flexible
• 58:48
  and
• 58:48
  open
• 58:48
  to
• 58:49
  changes
• 58:49
  from
• 58:49
  both
• 58:50
  yourself
• 58:50
  and
• 58:50
  your
• 58:50
  editor,
• 58:51
  because
• 58:51
  it
• 58:51
  can
• 58:52
  be
• 58:52
  really
• 58:52
  easy
• 58:53
  to
• 58:54
  want
• 58:54
  to
• 58:54
  just
• 58:54
  throw
• 58:54
  in
• 58:55
  the
• 58:55
  towel
• 58:55
  when
• 58:55
  you
• 58:56
  realize
• 58:56
  this
• 58:57
  isn't
• 58:57
  working
• 58:57
  and
• 58:57
  I'm
• 58:58
  going
• 58:58
  to
• 58:58
  have
• 58:58
  to
• 58:58
  start
• 58:58
  over
• 58:59
  or
• 58:59
  I'm
• 58:59
  going
• 59:00
  to
• 59:00
  wiggle
• 59:00
  my
• 59:01
  manuscript
• 59:02
  around
• 59:02
  a
• 59:02
  little
• 59:02
  bit
• 59:03
  because
• 59:03
  this
• 59:03
  isn't
• 59:04
  making
• 59:04
  sense
• 59:04
  or.
• 59:04
  And
• 59:05
  you're
• 59:05
  going
• 59:05
  to
• 59:05
  get
• 59:05
  a
• 59:05
  lot
• 59:05
  of
• 59:05
  feedback
• 59:06
  from
• 59:06
  your
• 59:06
  editor,
• 59:07
  too,
• 59:07
  on
• 59:08
  what's
• 59:08
  not
• 59:08
  working.
• 59:09
  And
• 59:09
  that
• 59:09
  can
• 59:09
  be
• 59:09
  really
• 59:10
  a
• 59:10
  really
• 59:10
  tough
• 59:10
  pill
• 59:10
  to
• 59:11
  swallow
• 59:12
  and
• 59:13
  obviously
• 59:13
  grateful
• 59:14
  for
• 59:14
  it.
• 59:14
  It's.
• 59:15
  It
• 59:15
  needs
• 59:15
  to.
• 59:15
  We
• 59:16
  need
• 59:16
  to
• 59:16
  have
• 59:16
  that
• 59:17
  advice
• 59:18
  from
• 59:18
  a
• 59:18
  third
• 59:18
  party.
• 59:19
  And
• 59:19
  so
• 59:19
  it's
• 59:20
  essential,
• 59:20
  but
• 59:20
  it's
• 59:21
  also
• 59:21
  one
• 59:22
  of
• 59:22
  those
• 59:22
  things
• 59:22
  we
• 59:22
  have
• 59:22
  to
• 59:23
  be
• 59:23
  flexible
• 59:23
  to.
• 59:23
  You
• 59:23
  have
• 59:24
  to
• 59:24
  be
• 59:24
  flexible
• 59:25
  to
• 59:25
  know
• 59:26
  that
• 59:27
  here's
• 59:27
  my
• 59:27
  story,
• 59:28
  and
• 59:28
  I
• 59:28
  feel
• 59:28
  like
• 59:28
  it's
• 59:29
  finished,
• 59:30
  but
• 59:30
  I
• 59:30
  need
• 59:31
  to
• 59:31
  know
• 59:31
  it's
• 59:31
  not
• 59:31
  finished
• 59:32
  and
• 59:32
  I'm
• 59:32
  going
• 59:32
  to
• 59:32
  have
• 59:32
  to
• 59:33
  change
• 59:33
  it.
• 59:33
  Thank
• 59:34
  you
• 59:34
  for
• 59:34
  that.
• 59:35
  And
• 59:35
  I
• 59:35
  always
• 59:35
  leave
• 59:36
  this
• 59:36
  towards
• 59:36
  the
• 59:37
  end,
• 59:37
  but
• 59:37
  I'd
• 59:38
  like
• 59:38
  to
• 59:38
  talk
• 59:38
  about
• 59:38
  encouragement
• 59:39
  for
• 59:39
  readers.
• 59:40
  So
• 59:40
  why
• 59:41
  should
• 59:41
  readers
• 59:41
  purchase
• 59:42
  your
• 59:42
  book?
• 59:43
  I
• 59:43
  feel.
• 59:43
  Because
• 59:44
  I
• 59:44
  feel
• 59:44
  like
• 59:45
  it's
• 59:45
  a
• 59:46
  relatable
• 59:47
  theme
• 59:47
  to
• 59:48
  both
• 59:48
  parents
• 59:49
  and
• 59:49
  children.
• 59:50
  We
• 59:51
  may
• 59:51
  think
• 59:51
  that
• 59:51
  we've
• 59:51
  found
• 59:52
  gratitude
• 59:53
  and
• 59:53
  we're
• 59:53
  set,
• 59:54
  but
• 59:54
  there
• 59:54
  will
• 59:54
  always
• 59:54
  be
• 59:55
  bumps
• 59:55
  in
• 59:56
  the
• 59:56
  road
• 59:56
  that
• 59:56
  arise
• 59:57
  and
• 59:57
  continue
• 59:58
  to
• 59:58
  arise,
• 59:59
  and
• 59:59
  we're
• 1:00:00
  almost
• 1:00:00
  constantly
• 1:00:01
  tempted
• 1:00:02
  to
• 1:00:02
  see
• 1:00:03
  negative
• 1:00:03
  and
• 1:00:04
  dwell
• 1:00:04
  on
• 1:00:04
  negative
• 1:00:05
  rather
• 1:00:05
  than
• 1:00:05
  see
• 1:00:06
  the
• 1:00:06
  good.
• 1:00:06
  I
• 1:00:06
  think
• 1:00:07
  it's
• 1:00:07
  an
• 1:00:07
  important
• 1:00:08
  lesson
• 1:00:08
  that
• 1:00:08
  we
• 1:00:08
  have
• 1:00:09
  to
• 1:00:09
  consistently
• 1:00:10
  learn
• 1:00:11
  and
• 1:00:11
  relearn
• 1:00:11
  throughout
• 1:00:12
  life
• 1:00:12
  to
• 1:00:13
  open
• 1:00:13
  our
• 1:00:13
  eyes
• 1:00:14
  to
• 1:00:14
  gratitude.
• 1:00:14
  And
• 1:00:14
  I
• 1:00:15
  think
• 1:00:15
  instilling
• 1:00:16
  that
• 1:00:16
  in
• 1:00:16
  children
• 1:00:17
  from
• 1:00:17
  a
• 1:00:17
  young
• 1:00:17
  age
• 1:00:17
  is
• 1:00:18
  very
• 1:00:18
  important.
• 1:00:19
  And
• 1:00:19
  it's
• 1:00:20
  also
• 1:00:20
  a
• 1:00:20
  good
• 1:00:20
  reminder
• 1:00:20
  for
• 1:00:21
  the
• 1:00:21
  parents
• 1:00:22
  and
• 1:00:22
  those
• 1:00:22
  reading
• 1:00:23
  the
• 1:00:23
  story
• 1:00:23
  to
• 1:00:24
  the
• 1:00:24
  children.
• 1:00:25
  Absolutely.
• 1:00:25
  Thank
• 1:00:26
  you
• 1:00:26
  for
• 1:00:26
  sharing
• 1:00:26
  that.
• 1:00:27
  So
• 1:00:28
  where
• 1:00:28
  can
• 1:00:28
  people
• 1:00:29
  purchase
• 1:00:29
  your
• 1:00:29
  book?
• 1:00:30
  On
• 1:00:30
  Amazon.
• 1:00:31
  But
• 1:00:33
  that
• 1:00:33
  is
• 1:00:33
  where
• 1:00:33
  I
• 1:00:34
  would
• 1:00:34
  recommend
• 1:00:34
  purchasing
• 1:00:35
  it
• 1:00:35
  is
• 1:00:35
  on
• 1:00:36
  Amazon.
• 1:00:37
  And
• 1:00:37
  just
• 1:00:37
  so
• 1:00:37
  everyone
• 1:00:38
  knows,
• 1:00:38
  I
• 1:00:39
  live
• 1:00:39
  in
• 1:00:39
  Canada
• 1:00:40
  and
• 1:00:41
  this
• 1:00:42
  book
• 1:00:42
  came
• 1:00:43
  to
• 1:00:43
  me
• 1:00:43
  within
• 1:00:44
  less
• 1:00:45
  than
• 1:00:45
  two
• 1:00:45
  days
• 1:00:46
  and
• 1:00:47
  it
• 1:00:47
  was
• 1:00:47
  printed
• 1:00:48
  right
• 1:00:48
  here
• 1:00:48
  in
• 1:00:48
  Alberta
• 1:00:49
  about
• 1:00:49
  15
• 1:00:49
  minutes
• 1:00:50
  from
• 1:00:50
  my
• 1:00:50
  house.
• 1:00:51
  Oh,
• 1:00:51
  okay,
• 1:00:51
  cool.
• 1:00:52
  So
• 1:00:52
  that's
• 1:00:52
  what
• 1:00:52
  I
• 1:00:53
  try
• 1:00:53
  to
• 1:00:53
  get
• 1:00:53
  state
• 1:00:54
  to
• 1:00:54
  everybody,
• 1:00:55
  is
• 1:00:55
  that
• 1:00:55
  it's
• 1:00:56
  amazing.
• 1:00:57
  Amazon
• 1:00:58
  has
• 1:00:58
  printing
• 1:00:58
  facilities
• 1:00:59
  all
• 1:00:59
  over
• 1:01:00
  the
• 1:01:00
  world,
• 1:01:01
  especially
• 1:01:01
  North
• 1:01:02
  America.
• 1:01:03
  So
• 1:01:03
  it's
• 1:01:04
  nice
• 1:01:04
  when
• 1:01:04
  you
• 1:01:04
  can
• 1:01:05
  order
• 1:01:05
  it
• 1:01:06
  and
• 1:01:06
  it's
• 1:01:06
  almost
• 1:01:06
  instantaneously
• 1:01:08
  coming
• 1:01:08
  to
• 1:01:08
  your
• 1:01:09
  house.
• 1:01:09
  Amazon
• 1:01:10
  makes
• 1:01:10
  it
• 1:01:10
  very
• 1:01:10
  accessible.
• 1:01:11
  So
• 1:01:11
  that's
• 1:01:12
  nice.
• 1:01:12
  Absolutely.
• 1:01:13
  So,
• 1:01:14
  final
• 1:01:14
  thoughts?
• 1:01:14
  Is
• 1:01:15
  there
• 1:01:15
  something
• 1:01:15
  you
• 1:01:16
  are
• 1:01:16
  thinking,
• 1:01:17
  Oh,
• 1:01:17
  I
• 1:01:17
  wish
• 1:01:17
  Rick
• 1:01:17
  would
• 1:01:18
  ask
• 1:01:18
  me
• 1:01:18
  that
• 1:01:18
  question.
• 1:01:19
  Or
• 1:01:19
  I've
• 1:01:20
  got
• 1:01:20
  something
• 1:01:20
  burning
• 1:01:21
  inside
• 1:01:21
  me
• 1:01:21
  that
• 1:01:22
  I'd
• 1:01:22
  like
• 1:01:22
  to
• 1:01:22
  share
• 1:01:22
  with
• 1:01:23
  the
• 1:01:23
  audience.
• 1:01:24
  No,
• 1:01:24
  the
• 1:01:24
  only
• 1:01:24
  thing
• 1:01:25
  I
• 1:01:25
  would
• 1:01:25
  say
• 1:01:25
  is
• 1:01:25
  just
• 1:01:26
  the
• 1:01:26
  power
• 1:01:27
  of
• 1:01:27
  writing
• 1:01:27
  is
• 1:01:28
  phenomenal.
• 1:01:28
  I
• 1:01:29
  love
• 1:01:29
  what
• 1:01:29
  it
• 1:01:30
  can
• 1:01:30
  do
• 1:01:30
  for
• 1:01:30
  those
• 1:01:31
  writing
• 1:01:31
  and
• 1:01:31
  for
• 1:01:31
  those
• 1:01:32
  that
• 1:01:32
  are
• 1:01:32
  being
• 1:01:32
  gifted
• 1:01:33
  the
• 1:01:34
  final
• 1:01:34
  work.
• 1:01:34
  And
• 1:01:35
  I
• 1:01:35
  don't
• 1:01:36
  think
• 1:01:36
  sometimes
• 1:01:36
  we
• 1:01:36
  give
• 1:01:37
  pen
• 1:01:37
  and
• 1:01:38
  paper
• 1:01:38
  enough
• 1:01:39
  credit.
• 1:01:39
  I
• 1:01:40
  think
• 1:01:40
  there's
• 1:01:41
  so
• 1:01:41
  much
• 1:01:41
  power.
• 1:01:42
  And
• 1:01:42
  when
• 1:01:43
  we
• 1:01:43
  talk
• 1:01:43
  with
• 1:01:44
  people
• 1:01:44
  verbally,
• 1:01:44
  in
• 1:01:45
  person,
• 1:01:45
  that's
• 1:01:46
  great.
• 1:01:46
  That
• 1:01:46
  communication
• 1:01:47
  is
• 1:01:47
  great.
• 1:01:47
  But
• 1:01:47
  the
• 1:01:47
  thing
• 1:01:48
  with
• 1:01:48
  writing
• 1:01:48
  that's
• 1:01:48
  beautiful
• 1:01:49
  is
• 1:01:49
  there's
• 1:01:50
  so
• 1:01:50
  much
• 1:01:50
  more
• 1:01:51
  premeditation
• 1:01:52
  that
• 1:01:52
  goes
• 1:01:52
  into
• 1:01:52
  it
• 1:01:53
  and
• 1:01:53
  so
• 1:01:54
  much
• 1:01:54
  more
• 1:01:54
  thought.
• 1:01:55
  And
• 1:01:56
  it's
• 1:01:56
  a
• 1:01:56
  wonderful
• 1:01:57
  industry
• 1:01:57
  to
• 1:01:58
  be
• 1:01:58
  a
• 1:01:58
  part
• 1:01:58
  of.
• 1:01:58
  Absolutely.
• 1:01:59
  Amber,
• 1:01:59
  thank
• 1:02:00
  you
• 1:02:00
  so
• 1:02:00
  much
• 1:02:00
  for
• 1:02:00
  being
• 1:02:01
  a
• 1:02:01
  guest
• 1:02:01
  on
• 1:02:01
  the
• 1:02:01
  Adventures
• 1:02:02
  in
• 1:02:02
  the
• 1:02:02
  Heart
• 1:02:02
  of
• 1:02:02
  Children's
• 1:02:03
  Book
• 1:02:03
  Authors
• 1:02:04
  podcast.
• 1:02:04
  I
• 1:02:04
  really
• 1:02:05
  appreciate
• 1:02:05
  that
• 1:02:06
  your
• 1:02:06
  generosity
• 1:02:07
  of
• 1:02:07
  time
• 1:02:08
  and
• 1:02:08
  your
• 1:02:09
  insights,
• 1:02:10
  they'll
• 1:02:10
  benefit
• 1:02:11
  aspiring
• 1:02:11
  authors
• 1:02:12
  and
• 1:02:12
  readers.
• 1:02:13
  You
• 1:02:13
  have
• 1:02:13
  something
• 1:02:13
  very
• 1:02:14
  magical
• 1:02:15
  and
• 1:02:15
  so
• 1:02:16
  cool
• 1:02:16
  with
• 1:02:17
  using
• 1:02:17
  a
• 1:02:17
  puppet
• 1:02:18
  as
• 1:02:18
  your
• 1:02:19
  main
• 1:02:19
  character.
• 1:02:20
  I
• 1:02:20
  promise
• 1:02:20
  the
• 1:02:21
  audience
• 1:02:21
  to
• 1:02:21
  make
• 1:02:22
  sure
• 1:02:22
  that
• 1:02:23
  Amber
• 1:02:23
  mentioned
• 1:02:24
  a
• 1:02:24
  lot
• 1:02:24
  of
• 1:02:24
  different
• 1:02:25
  websites
• 1:02:26
  and
• 1:02:26
  we'll
• 1:02:26
  make
• 1:02:27
  sure
• 1:02:27
  the
• 1:02:27
  links
• 1:02:27
  are
• 1:02:27
  in
• 1:02:28
  the
• 1:02:28
  show
• 1:02:28
  notes.
• 1:02:29
  If
• 1:02:29
  you
• 1:02:29
  really
• 1:02:30
  enjoyed
• 1:02:30
  this
• 1:02:30
  episode,
• 1:02:31
  please
• 1:02:31
  hit
• 1:02:32
  the
• 1:02:32
  subscribe
• 1:02:32
  button
• 1:02:33
  to
• 1:02:34
  listen
• 1:02:34
  to
• 1:02:34
  future
• 1:02:34
  episodes
• 1:02:36
  and
• 1:02:36
  feel
• 1:02:36
  free
• 1:02:37
  to
• 1:02:37
  share
• 1:02:38
  this
• 1:02:39
  whole
• 1:02:39
  episode
• 1:02:40
  and
• 1:02:40
  talk
• 1:02:41
  about
• 1:02:42
  Amber's
• 1:02:42
  book,
• 1:02:43
  the
• 1:02:43
  Chickadee
• 1:02:44
  who
• 1:02:44
  Knew
• 1:02:45
  thank
• 1:02:45
  you,
• 1:02:45
  Amber.
• 1:02:46
  Thank
• 1:02:46
  you,
• 1:02:46
  Rick.
• 1:02:47
  I
• 1:02:47
  appreciate
• 1:02:47
  it
• 1:02:47
  so
• 1:02:48
  much.