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- 0:01While there was no question the NFL has certainly come a long
- 0:06way from where it was previously, you know, over the
- 0:09decades. But I'm going to highlight one
- 0:16specific thing that I'm not going to say it's gotten lost
- 0:20over the years, but it's certainly something to really
- 0:26make note of. So I'm not even going to say
- 0:31throughout the end of our history.
- 0:33But regardless, while there has been questions throughout the
- 0:40years about the plight of, you know, the black quarterbacks,
- 0:47you know, in some cases being unable to be given an
- 0:51opportunity to prove and validate themselves.
- 0:58You know, there have been plenty that when given the opportunity
- 1:06actually did well for them. So, you know, I mean, we have
- 1:11seen the number of them grow exponentially even today.
- 1:19But what about in the case of a trailblazer, someone who,
- 1:27despite showing traits of that, I actually had to take the long
- 1:32way? Here is my thoughts about the
- 1:40first black quarterback to be in the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
- 1:46But there's also a caveat. He's not just in the Pro
- 1:51Football Hall of Fame. He's also in a Canadian football
- 1:57hall. Here is my thoughts on one moon
- 2:02making history to be in the Hall of Fame in two really countries,
- 2:09but how he essentially had to travel the longest Rd. just to
- 2:14get there. Despised having success at the
- 2:23University of Washington and leading the Huskies to a Rose
- 2:30Bowl win. 1 Moon was passed over in the 1977 and you can say 78
- 2:39draft the problem that. And unfortunately, this was just
- 2:45the way it was back then. One of the problems for him was
- 2:52that while talented, he was considered, you know, a
- 2:57scramble. But it's not, as you know what
- 3:01we see today. He in a lot of ways at Great
- 3:08Orange, he had great mobility. He could make every draw.
- 3:16The problem that we came was he didn't play in the offense that
- 3:26necessarily was post. And of course and not
- 3:31surprisingly, the other side issue was it's complexion.
- 3:41And like I said, you know what, that's just the way things work
- 3:44back. I mean, you can try to slice it
- 3:49and dice it either way you look at it, but that's just where the
- 3:54tenure of the times. And before him, as I mentioned,
- 4:00there were other, you know, black quarterbacks that have
- 4:04been kind of given that same stigma, if you will.
- 4:08Really the only real successful one from that ever is James
- 4:13Harris. And the other noble was Doug
- 4:21Williams. Now, in the case of film, he was
- 4:28drafted in 1978 by Tampa Bay with the 17 back.
- 4:35But he was just the exception. Meaning despite any college
- 4:41success, one who had, you know, some encouraged them to, you
- 4:47know, switch positions, wide receiver or so I'm saying, hey,
- 4:51move to the cornerback. It will take you no worse than
- 4:54probably in the second round, maybe late 1st.
- 4:59And for more, that kind of felt like a personal private attack.
- 5:06He knew in his heart he wanted to be a signal call.
- 5:11And so this is where the crux of all this really begins.
- 5:19So after his college career ended and he didn't go into go
- 5:25into info draft being selected, he decided to go up north.
- 5:33And by going up north, he went up to Canada to begin a football
- 5:40odyssey that would span 22 seasons in both countries.
- 5:56In 1979, One Moon joined the Edmonton Eskimos.
- 6:02It was going to be his first and a long stop of football success.
- 6:08Now mind you, and I apologize, he had joined them a year
- 6:11earlier. OK, I want to be clear, but it
- 6:15took him a little while to kind of establish himself, just like
- 6:20with anybody trying to prove if they belong.
- 6:25And supposedly what happened the next couple seasons with
- 6:32Edmonton proved to be part of his legacy.
- 6:36He immediately had success with the Eskimos, winning 5 Grey Cup
- 6:42champions every year he was getting better and maybe given
- 6:50the NFL and the teams, that's when we didn't take a fly on
- 6:54him. Kind of something to think
- 6:57about. But despite all his success he
- 7:02had in Canada, he always wondered, you know, about being
- 7:07in the States playing in the NFL and wondering if that was going
- 7:13to come to fruition. And sure enough, in 1984,
- 7:22everything changed. See the Houston Oilers at that
- 7:26point was a franchise and rebuilt.
- 7:30They had ironically hired Moons coach up in Canada, Hugh
- 7:36Campbell to be the head coach. They were transitioning away
- 7:40from the old Campbell days and Houston essentially needed a
- 7:46signal call. Now mind you, after he
- 7:53established himself in Canada, he had it seemed like the doors
- 7:59opened for him almost immediately.
- 8:02The CFL, the NFL in the old USFL if you remember that, all bid
- 8:10for his play in the end. In 1984, Moon finally joined the
- 8:18NFL signing refuse, which would actually begin the first of his
- 8:2716 year NFL career at the 6th. Great years in Canada, winning 5
- 8:34great cup tiles. Now you probably would think.
- 8:41Well, sure, One Moon had to essentially pay his dues to an
- 8:46extent they had to go a unorthodox way to get to the
- 8:52NFL, right? And even though he had this, you
- 8:56know, success in Canada and was highly covered in 1984, he was
- 9:04soon realized that here in the States, even though he did it in
- 9:10college, that the NFL was all cry from Canada.
- 9:25To put a Long story short, as far as Moon's first three
- 9:29seasons in here, it wasn't pretty.
- 9:35Now, granted, by the time he even joined the Oilers in 1984,
- 9:40as I mentioned, there was a franchise in rebuilding and the
- 9:46team's first three seasons on him.
- 9:49It's just it just wasn't good. I'll say that kind.
- 9:54And I shouldn't say he was a young quarterback.
- 9:58But you know what, for the sake of argument, he had to kind of
- 10:04learn the works immediately that this is not going to be
- 10:07something he would have success immediately like he had in
- 10:10Canada. And you're what, like how he did
- 10:18in Canada? I've mentioned he will learn to
- 10:22adapt, adjust and eventually have success.
- 10:29That didn't stop, you know, a lot of people from really both
- 10:34sides questioning if he was even still cut out for the pro game
- 10:39here. You see, it wasn't enough that
- 10:43Houston was not going to adapt. It was the fact that they pay
- 10:49essentially a premium for a guy that was a great Canadian
- 10:54Football League quarterback but wasn't going to cut it in the
- 10:59out. It worked.
- 11:03When you take unconventional paths to get you where you want
- 11:07to be, there's always going to be challenges.
- 11:09I mean, can we at least acknowledge that?
- 11:13But I think what helped Warren understood was that he had to
- 11:20take the hardest way possible. That after essentially having
- 11:26great success when he was at the University of Washington, being
- 11:30passed over in the ethical draft, and having the fight to
- 11:35prove himself in Canada. If anything, he looked his first
- 11:40two to three years as nothing more than just another challenge
- 11:45he would have to overcome. And sure enough, by the time
- 11:491987 walked around everything changed.
- 11:59After taking his long his first three years, 1987 it seemed like
- 12:05everything was finally coming together for him.
- 12:08He went from a QB with a lot of questions and a lot to prove to
- 12:13be one of the leagues best. When Houston finally got things
- 12:17together as a franchise and surrounded him with talent,
- 12:21that's when everything flaws. Led by Hall, famous on the
- 12:25offensive line, Bruce Matthews and Mike Munchak.
- 12:30With stay with he was Hayward Jeffries, Curtis Duncan, Ernest
- 12:33Givens, Tony Jones and Lando Hill and they saw it running
- 12:39back group of Gary Brown rest in peace and Mike Rozier Moon
- 12:47instantly became one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL.
- 12:54He eventually became really a guy that went from is he going
- 13:00to be going up to stay to pray down almost immediately today
- 13:06and his ten FL seasons with Houston, 5 Pro Bowl selections,
- 13:13man of the year award and was the countless for the run shoe
- 13:19offense at the time was sort of kind of how, like I mentioned
- 13:24yesterday with, you know, Buffaloes K gun offense.
- 13:29I mean, if you go back and watch those footages back then, that
- 13:34one shoe offense was electrifying and as was all it
- 13:40turned Houston from one of the worst teams in the NFL with no
- 13:44future to some say a playoff in borderline Super Bowl contender.
- 13:53Now think about that for a moment.
- 13:56Despite the fact he had to really overcome a new set of
- 14:02challenges in his first half fourth years in the NFL, he had
- 14:07to overcome it. Not only did he do that, but he
- 14:11was finally having success individual and it seemed like
- 14:16everything was on the upswing. Unfortunately, now good stories
- 14:25have smooth sail. Even though he was the key in
- 14:29turning around the Oils franchise, one question still
- 14:33remained. Not just him, but hovering over
- 14:38the franchise. Were they going to be good
- 14:40enough to win a Super Bowl? Now mind you, the Oil franchise
- 14:48as a whole in the NFL, not counting the American Football
- 14:52League days at the time, they only went to two conference
- 14:57championship games. Those games just happened to be
- 15:02with Oral Campbell who they may have spent the ball when they
- 15:06bought in one move and you figure with the offense they had
- 15:10the time and they stay defense. You thought it was realistically
- 15:16possible that recent conference out game or Super Bowl pills was
- 15:21in the works, right? I wish I could say it was, but
- 15:29not quite the Oilers back then. Despite the talent on both sides
- 15:36of the ball, something would always seem to go wrong at the
- 15:42worst time, especially in the playoffs.
- 15:45They suffered some really difficult ones in the UA 80s,
- 15:49but it was in the 90s where people still remember at least
- 15:54from the hell, particularly 1991 to 1993. 91 was against Denver
- 16:06in the Division One where despite having the chance to
- 16:11upset John Elway and the Broncos, the Oilers defense came
- 16:16completely apart and Elway once again was able to make one of
- 16:21his great comebacks and be in the Oilers at home. 1992 might
- 16:30have been The detonator of what would lead to 1992.
- 16:38Houston was on the road against Buffalo in the Wild card round
- 16:43and kind of how I got talked about yesterday with Buffalo and
- 16:47their Mason comeback. I have to acknowledge Houston,
- 16:52how everything fell apart. So the Oilers draw up 35 three.
- 16:59It looked like they were going to send the two time defending
- 17:03AFC champion. It was home.
- 17:06I mean, all you had to do was essentially at least get one
- 17:10more touchdown or get some stops defensively.
- 17:15And then it was all to the next stage.
- 17:20And even today, I still don't know how the defense completely
- 17:26fell apart when Buffalo kept chipping.
- 17:29Where do we And the defense was going to be stagnant as far as
- 17:34you know, giving a play after playing touchdown to touchdown.
- 17:39You figured that the offense would help, right?
- 17:43But here's the problem. It seemed like everything
- 17:47Houston did right in the first half offensively turned
- 17:51completely backwards because once they couldn't get anything
- 17:57going offensively for one reason or another, it put the defense
- 18:02in a tough spot. And when that happened, that was
- 18:07almost essentially impossible to stop the slide.
- 18:12But Long story short, Buffalo ended up coming back and won it
- 18:16over time in one of the great playoff comebacks in NFL playoff
- 18:25history and subsequently one of the greatest disasters, last
- 18:31collapse you can probably say in playoff history.
- 18:37And you heard me bring up how that playoff laws set in tone
- 18:44what would be essentially Moon's final season with the team.
- 18:49But the first part of the season kind of signaled the end.
- 18:57Moon got off to a rough start. He would be erratic, you know,
- 19:04pressing a lot of times trying to get this franchise over the
- 19:07hump. And for one game, he actually
- 19:12got benched against the way And it was after their start out one
- 19:17for and you know, it looked like he was not even going to play
- 19:24with us this season. I mean, that's how bad things
- 19:28had gotten. But as faithful habit, maybe the
- 19:36door was about to open. While in Foxboro, Moore had
- 19:43century watch from the sidelines most of the game.
- 19:47But then when his backup teammate at quarterback, Cody
- 19:50Carlson, tore his hamstring after scoring A touchdown run of
- 19:55his own, that opened the door for one to come back.
- 19:59And in the century not only lead the Oilers to a comeback win
- 20:05against the Patriots, but that spearheaded an 11th game-winning
- 20:12streak where what it looked like the season was going to be a
- 20:20disaster. It was reborn once again and
- 20:25maybe gave Houston one more glimmer of hope that the season
- 20:30could potentially end with a deep playoff.
- 20:35Now the 1993 season could be a countaway in one round, A1 one
- 20:46way. A complete whirlwind of
- 20:50something always going on because if and for those that
- 20:55won't remember it better than me, if you remember by the
- 20:59Adams, the Oilers slash tight and so on there.
- 21:04He essentially said to the team prior to that season that if we
- 21:08don't go far in the playoffs or win the Super Bowl, he was going
- 21:13to basically dismount on this team.
- 21:19Because if you remember, it was at that point, free agency was
- 21:23starting to really take shape officially.
- 21:27And with the impending salary cap, the after that season, it
- 21:33was either get it done or not. And then, of course, you know,
- 21:38by running being higher as the best coordinator and the, you
- 21:45know, unfortunate passing of one of the better defensive players,
- 21:49Jeff on, he was in peace during the season.
- 21:54It just seemed like that whole season was another winning cycle
- 22:00of what else could go wrong? And of course, it Finley was
- 22:09summed up when doing a home game against the chest buddy.
- 22:15Ryan took a swing at Kevin Gill by the offensive coordinator
- 22:22after the two exchange words. And I'll just say that part.
- 22:29But you know what? Despite the crazy season, the
- 22:34Oil was at home field advantage. Despite starting at 1:00 and
- 22:394:00. They had won eleven well and it
- 22:43was their time. It was their opportunity, last
- 22:49of it I should say, to finally make headway to a deep playoff.
- 22:57All they had to do was beat Kansas City in the playoffs and
- 23:01they would host Buffalo in the AFC town game at home.
- 23:09Now mind you, Houston had beaten the Chiefs 30 to nothing earlier
- 23:17in the year, but if you recall Joe Montana had not played
- 23:23because of an injury. Well, in this scenario in the
- 23:29divisional round, he would be there to start against Houston.
- 23:35Everything looked promising for the Organs.
- 23:37They were 10 to nothing at the half, and then, like the
- 23:45previous two playoff games prior, everything fell apart.
- 23:52The Chiefs found Second Life and after they had fought their way
- 23:59back in The Cave, a century shut them in and the Chiefs ended up
- 24:08scoring 21 fourth quarter points.
- 24:12They had scored seven in the third quarter, but then by that
- 24:19point Houston unfortunately became known until the Rockets,
- 24:28played by Akima Raju, won back-to-back tiles.
- 24:31They became known as Choke City and the Oilers ended up losing
- 24:40at home in the division. And that was it, a last ditch
- 24:49effort to try to win the Super Bowl or the playoff line
- 24:54effectively in. It also met the end of women's
- 25:01time in Houston, unfortunately. But I'm just made it perfectly
- 25:07clear what he was going to do with nothing suffice of a
- 25:11championship when he said that he met in In the 1994 offseason,
- 25:23the Oilers said goodbye to the longtime franchise signal
- 25:28caller, shifting him off to Minnesota.
- 25:36So as much as I in a way, kind of feel bad for Warren that, you
- 25:46know, his Tom Houston ended the way I did, he cannot ignore
- 25:52this. He did have opportunities with a
- 25:56talented ball club to get to the next stage as far as the playoff
- 26:01run, and it just never worked. And so you figure that's the end
- 26:10of the story, right, That, you know, he was about to be on the
- 26:16decline. Not necessarily.
- 26:22See, when he joined Minnesota in 1994, in a way, yes, It was a
- 26:30new beginning and he was able to help him go along.
- 26:35Chris Carter, who it's starting to emerge as a great receiver in
- 26:39his own way. And as a matter of fact, in the
- 26:44first season it got they, Carter ended up succeeding the same
- 26:49gold season reception way. So you figure while Moon's
- 26:56having some success in Minnesota and everything's going fine,
- 27:02right? But then kind of came, you know,
- 27:09and I don't get into personal people's business, but he was
- 27:13dealing with some internal family issues and, you know,
- 27:20just let's say he left time for him.
- 27:26But like his whole football life, he eventually overcame it.
- 27:34But it was really after the 96 season when Minnesota chose to
- 27:39go in a different direction, that many thought his school was
- 27:43over, that, you know, the end was there foreborn that, you
- 27:51know, maybe it's time for him to retire.
- 27:57Apparently he didn't get the memo.
- 28:01In the 1997, the Moon joined a franchise that his century.
- 28:07When he joined the NFL 84, he spun 14 years old.
- 28:15He ended up joining the Seattle Seahawks and it seemed like he
- 28:19was experiencing a career with five.
- 28:23In his first year there, he drew 25 touchdown passes.
- 28:28And even though in this two seasons there the franchise came
- 28:31up just a bit short of making the playoffs, both years, it
- 28:38looked like he was going to a century silence many people that
- 28:44ran them off so many times. And in 1999, he spent his final
- 28:49two seasons in Kansas City as really the backup.
- 28:56But you know what? Him being Ginsmith boys at that
- 29:00point it was almost perfectly clear he knew that by the end of
- 29:062000 it was ton of St. hangout. So that he did.
- 29:16And in 2000, his 22 year professional career was old.
- 29:29I mean, if you really think about it, the way he was able to
- 29:34have a career that in some ways never was going to happen if he
- 29:39didn't bound himself. It's a sound now, mind you, all
- 29:47things considered, it was during a time when, you know, the
- 29:53thought of having a quarterback with a darker complexion that
- 29:59people don't think, you know, it's gonna be good enough to
- 30:01your play, you know, be smart enough to be a team to
- 30:05essentially have so many questions surrounding them.
- 30:12I mean, I think it speaks to a lot of discount of how he was
- 30:16not only able to take the, like I said, not only the longest
- 30:22path just to even have success, but it was in the most
- 30:25unconventional way. Again, we're talking about a guy
- 30:29who First off never got drafted. Many question if his skill set
- 30:36would be even be good enough in the NFL level and the fact he
- 30:41had to go to Canada just to even have an opportunity to start
- 30:46somewhere speaks a lot about him and who he is.
- 30:51And like I said, it wouldn't be long before you know, the
- 30:58Canadian Football League Hall of Fame and literally the Pro
- 31:02Football Hall of Fame came calling.
- 31:05And then of course, the Oilers last Titans franchise retire
- 31:10this number, although Ken waters well in right now, which he died
- 31:15from Mormons blessing. But you remember moon that's
- 31:20annoying. So but in the end, if you really
- 31:25play all together, being the first black quarterback to be in
- 31:31the Pro Football Hall of Fame is no small feat in and of the
- 31:34South. And like I said, he became
- 31:39really a special player, not just for the fact he's in the
- 31:47Hall of Fame in both countries behind you, but it was in the
- 31:53way he was able to do it, being on himself, just trying to see
- 31:59if he was good enough in one country before another country
- 32:06and league was finally willing to take him on.
- 32:09And not only did he prove himself in both instances, in
- 32:15both countries, you may have a point that if you have to take
- 32:21the long road to get there, then you know what, it is all worth
- 32:26it.