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  Speaker 1: It's Thursday, March eleventh. This is Jaguars Happy Hour. Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: Happy Hour is presented by dou balm Oder Company. Hey now,
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  Speaker 1: a guy who shot at Bertie Tooe Goes and a
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  Speaker 1: duck this afternoon. J P. Shad Who did that though?
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  Speaker 1: Who had that lot? George? Of course? Welcome in jack
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  Speaker 1: Uars Happy Hour. My name's j P. Shadrick and we
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  Speaker 1: have a programmed for you today. Here's what's coming up
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  Speaker 1: on said program. Urban Meyer and Trent Vaulky reaction. The
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  Speaker 1: head coach and the gm both spoke with the media
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  Speaker 1: this week, and out of those availabilities, we found out
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  Speaker 1: that the offensive line could remain intact this year. The
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  Speaker 1: defense is a bit of a rebuild though, starting up
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  Speaker 1: front the back end as well. They're looking for playmakers
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  Speaker 1: on offense, aren't we all? And we'll go around the
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  Speaker 1: National Football League with us in person today is Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: analyst Jeff Logerman and logs it is good to see again.
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  Speaker 1: What's that's good to be seen? That's like the best line.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you're you're above ground. It's good. It's all good,
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  Speaker 1: no doubt. A lot going on. I mean we're a
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  Speaker 1: week away inside a week away from the start of
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  Speaker 1: the league year and free agency. They finally figured out
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  Speaker 1: what the salary cap is gonna be, and there's a
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  Speaker 1: lot of moving parts. So we called it the the
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  Speaker 1: hot stove of the off season. That's a baseball term,
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  Speaker 1: but it's the same idea in the NFL. This is
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  Speaker 1: the time of year or everybody's either getting cut or
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  Speaker 1: resigned or free agency is about to begin, and finally
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  Speaker 1: big offseason news is here. Finally, locks. I mean, look,
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  Speaker 1: it's uh, it's about time we get there, you know,
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  Speaker 1: because sometimes it seems like you're never gonna get the
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  Speaker 1: free agency. I'm glad that the league came out and
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  Speaker 1: find only stopped messing around and trying to figure out
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  Speaker 1: exactly what the salary cap is gonna be, and now
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  Speaker 1: teams can start making decisions. And now you're starting to
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  Speaker 1: see movement. And the reason I say that is because
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  Speaker 1: this team doesn't need to do the movement, but the
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  Speaker 1: movement affects them and what their ability as far as
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  Speaker 1: bringing the movement in. So uh so, I mean, that's
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  Speaker 1: that's good. And I think that there's been a lot
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  Speaker 1: of evaluation on some players that maybe they were hoping
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  Speaker 1: to get and then with the tags that have been
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  Speaker 1: announced so far, there's probably a little bit of disappointment
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  Speaker 1: on some guys that are not going to be available,
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  Speaker 1: and that's part of it. Leonard Williams sure would I've
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  Speaker 1: liked they have had him. It would have been nice.
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  Speaker 1: So that's good. I mean, it's a good time of year.
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  Speaker 1: It's the fun time of year because you know what
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  Speaker 1: here here, here's I was just talking to James coming in,
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  Speaker 1: you know James, and James, James works the front desk,
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  Speaker 1: and and uh, it's always good to talk to James,
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  Speaker 1: and and he was asking me, you know, what do
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  Speaker 1: you think about this team and what what's the first
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  Speaker 1: thing that they're going to be doing. And my opinion
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  Speaker 1: is is that this is such a young roster that
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  Speaker 1: you're gonna get better in the next couple of weeks
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  Speaker 1: in free agency, and you need to you need to
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  Speaker 1: address your roster to get some some proven playmaking ability
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  Speaker 1: because the draft is great, no doubt, but this is
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  Speaker 1: gonna be a buyer's market for people that do have
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  Speaker 1: money to spend, which this team is going to be
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  Speaker 1: one of them, and this team needs proven playmakers to
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  Speaker 1: go along with this young roster. To help this young
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  Speaker 1: roster grow. So busy week here in Jacksonville. Of course,
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  Speaker 1: Urban Meyer spoke with the media on Tuesday and then
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  Speaker 1: actually on Wednesday sat down with the Jack's business staff
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  Speaker 1: in the stadium for a discussion about his history his
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  Speaker 1: family coaching tenants. Is really a cool thing for the
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  Speaker 1: business side to be able to interact a lot with
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  Speaker 1: with Urban Meyern yesterday and then the Trent Balky spoken
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  Speaker 1: a video conference yesterday as well. Let's start though from
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  Speaker 1: Rban Meyers press conference on Tuesday. It is a different
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  Speaker 1: feeling set up this year between personnel and the coaching staff.
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  Speaker 1: So you have great respect for the ones that dive deep.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's it's not recruiting, and I understand the difference,
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  Speaker 1: but um free agency to me is the labor intensive proposition.
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  Speaker 1: That means that the hardest working, the deepest digging stabs
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  Speaker 1: a lot like recruiting, they get the best players. Ultimately,
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  Speaker 1: the tight end coach is response for who walks in
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  Speaker 1: that room, and he's going to utilize every resource. And
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  Speaker 1: that's called scouts, that's called scouting directors, that's called a
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  Speaker 1: general managers, called a head coach and coordinator, and they're
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  Speaker 1: gonna do a deep dive. It's also called zoom calls
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  Speaker 1: and finding out as much as he can about that
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  Speaker 1: person walking in his his unit room. So that's the
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  Speaker 1: way we go about a business. Ultimately, it's a position.
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  Speaker 1: Position coach is going to have a heavy hand and
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  Speaker 1: who comes in there. Yet Trent and his staff obviously
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  Speaker 1: are the number one resource we use. So it's a
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  Speaker 1: different feeling set up than what a lot of times
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  Speaker 1: happens in the NFL that logs feels like a college
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  Speaker 1: recruiting set up where the position coach really leads the way.
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't say it's like a so much like a
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  Speaker 1: college set up, but it's different and it's certainly different
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  Speaker 1: than what has been around the stadium for many years.
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  Speaker 1: And what I mean by that is that urban's talking
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  Speaker 1: about the tight ends coach will determine who is in
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  Speaker 1: that room, and that the scouts are gonna be resources,
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  Speaker 1: and that they're gonna be doing a deep dive into
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  Speaker 1: obviously the decision making process and in the personnel to
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  Speaker 1: be able to come to that conclusion. In years past,
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  Speaker 1: for the most part, around here, it's been personnel going
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  Speaker 1: here's your guys, coaches and go ahead and coach them up.
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  Speaker 1: And uh, you know, even though if you're making chicken
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  Speaker 1: salad what we just gave you pork, make it work.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, so, I think this is kind of it's
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  Speaker 1: it's interesting and it's a little bit different to hear
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  Speaker 1: that the coaches tell saying basically that the position coaches
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  Speaker 1: are gonna have a lot of say so as far
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  Speaker 1: as the decision making and who comes in. And I
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  Speaker 1: kind of interpreted it from free agency and also from
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  Speaker 1: the draft and that the resources the quote number one
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  Speaker 1: resources Trent balky and his staff. So uh, this clearly
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people were kind of speculating is urban
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  Speaker 1: Meyer holding the power? And obviously this tells you that
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  Speaker 1: the coaching staff and Trent Balky is is a resource
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  Speaker 1: and and that's there's nothing wrong with that. Trent Balky
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  Speaker 1: is gonna be a valuable person to this organization because
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  Speaker 1: he's the one that's got the knowledge and and the
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  Speaker 1: time and the commitment, uh more so than coaches, because
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  Speaker 1: coaches are gonna be coaching when it comes to the fall.
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  Speaker 1: But Trent Balky is gonna give that information to the coaches.
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  Speaker 1: Then they're all gonna work together. But the coach is
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  Speaker 1: going to be the one that's going to be making
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  Speaker 1: that final determination on who's in that room. And I
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  Speaker 1: just find that it's different. You know, it's different. And
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  Speaker 1: Trent Balky is a is a proven commodity and uh
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  Speaker 1: and and here's the thing. Uh, if you're a resource,
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  Speaker 1: you've got to be spot on. And so even though
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  Speaker 1: you sit there and you say, okay, well the coach
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  Speaker 1: is the one that's making the decision, but if you're
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  Speaker 1: getting the information from Trent Balking his staff, you know, well,
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  Speaker 1: who's really making the decision. It's kind of it's kind
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  Speaker 1: of both. But ultimately the position coach is the guy
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  Speaker 1: who has the ultimate say. So that's different than it's
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  Speaker 1: been here in the past. And you know, actually Urban
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  Speaker 1: said the other day that a new higher, a fairly
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  Speaker 1: new higher, Ryan Stamford will have a voice on draft
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  Speaker 1: night in the draft room as well. I thought that
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  Speaker 1: was a really interesting some of the quotes he had
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  Speaker 1: on that. Yeah, and you know Stamford is from here
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  Speaker 1: in Jacksonville. What's the first coach? High school um and
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  Speaker 1: then went to the University of Florida, played linebacker on
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  Speaker 1: two national championship teams and was at Ohio State with
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  Speaker 1: Urban as player development, it was assistant athletic director or
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  Speaker 1: associate athletic actor towards the end of his time in Columbus.
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  Speaker 1: So he's here director of player Assessment to make sure
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  Speaker 1: that title, you know the way, have you ever heard
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  Speaker 1: that title? I have not, not in the NFL. No, No,
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  Speaker 1: I mean and and essentially, what Ryan Stamper is from
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  Speaker 1: what Urban said is that Ryan Stamper is gonna make
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  Speaker 1: sure that the players that we acquire are a fit
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  Speaker 1: and uh a culture fit. Well, I mean, I think
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  Speaker 1: there's a lot of different ways to describe it. I
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  Speaker 1: mean there's culturally, there's physically, I mean, all all of
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  Speaker 1: the above. JP I think is is what that falls underneath.
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  Speaker 1: So Ryan Stamper is gonna have a tremendous amount of
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  Speaker 1: sway as far as how this roster is shaped and
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  Speaker 1: the opinions that will get shaped, as far as the
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  Speaker 1: information that gets brought to the coaches. So Ryan's gonna
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  Speaker 1: make sure that these are the guys that we need
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  Speaker 1: to have that are good for our program. They're gonna
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  Speaker 1: have a positive impact, They're gonna make those around him better.
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  Speaker 1: Uh so, uh, but it's unique. I've just I've never
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  Speaker 1: heard that title, and I'm not I'm not saying that
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  Speaker 1: in a in a derogatory way. I'm saying and that
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  Speaker 1: I'm it's it's difference. It's yeah, it's just different and
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  Speaker 1: and it could be really positive if, uh if, Ryan
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  Speaker 1: Stamper has a great feel for for those character traits
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  Speaker 1: that you always look for, because I'm just telling you, look,
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  Speaker 1: if you can find the Klaiss Campbell type guys, the
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  Speaker 1: Josh Allen type of guys that are committed, that are professional,
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  Speaker 1: that are good people, that do things the right way,
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  Speaker 1: that are coachable, I mean, that's what you want for
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  Speaker 1: your program. And also the great leaders to go along
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  Speaker 1: with him, no doubt about that. And we've heard nothing
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  Speaker 1: but great things about Ryan Stamper. I haven't had a
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  Speaker 1: chance to meet him in person yet, but he's from here,
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  Speaker 1: know people that know him, and and it's um, it
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  Speaker 1: should be a really good higher for the Jaguars organization.
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  Speaker 1: Now let's hear from General Man as your Trent Balky
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  Speaker 1: he spoke on Wednesday, two and a half million dollars
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  Speaker 1: is the cap this year down eight percent from a
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  Speaker 1: year ago, and longs as you said a second ago,
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  Speaker 1: that can help the Jaguars cause with players that might
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  Speaker 1: not be on the market normally now starting to flood
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  Speaker 1: the market. But the question for Balky the other day
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  Speaker 1: yesterday was do you gonna do you have to spend
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  Speaker 1: all the money this year or are you gonna plan
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  Speaker 1: to spread it out for the future. But we figured
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  Speaker 1: it would be somewhere between one eight five, and that's
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  Speaker 1: what we planned on as far as spending. Uh, you know,
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  Speaker 1: we're we're always gonna look to push the envelope and
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  Speaker 1: spend spend to the cap on a three year rolling cycle,
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  Speaker 1: whether you're above or below, but on over a three
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  Speaker 1: year period, hoping to spend to the camp. And we
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  Speaker 1: have an ownership that's willing to do that, and and
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  Speaker 1: and we want to do that. So uh, we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna use the dollars. I spoke earlier about value.
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  Speaker 1: I think value is critical. You know, you have to
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  Speaker 1: get the value of the players right. And uh, you
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  Speaker 1: just like building a stock portfolio. If you if you
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  Speaker 1: get a bunch of overpay you know overprais stocks, you
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  Speaker 1: buy high and sell lot. Eventually that catches up with you.
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  Speaker 1: So get the checkbook ready. Lugs. It feels like they're
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  Speaker 1: gonna spend some money next year. I wouldn't say that,
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  Speaker 1: but I would say that. I think the impression is first.
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  Speaker 1: The most important inform a piece of information there is
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  Speaker 1: that ownership has quote just kind of I guess you
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  Speaker 1: could say this is uh, summarizing from what Trent Bulky said,
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  Speaker 1: that ownership has given them the ability to spend the cap,
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  Speaker 1: and so they're totally okay with doing whatever it takes
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  Speaker 1: to build a winner. But you don't spend of the
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  Speaker 1: cap just to spend of the cap. Look, I mean, JP,
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  Speaker 1: I'd love to pay you to start left tackle and
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  Speaker 1: give you twenty millions. You're not uh you know you
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  Speaker 1: you're not even worth minimum. So we're not gonna give
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  Speaker 1: you a franchise twenty million because you're you stink, you're
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  Speaker 1: not very good left tackle. So my point is is
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  Speaker 1: that you you want to spend to the cap, but
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  Speaker 1: you have to have justification to spend of the cap,
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  Speaker 1: which is where Trent Balky is talking about value, which
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  Speaker 1: means you need to find the players that that tell
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  Speaker 1: you you're getting what the value is. So in other words,
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  Speaker 1: if you're paying somebody fifteen million a year, you're getting
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  Speaker 1: fifteen million a year and performed return on that investment.
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  Speaker 1: And and and if you're spending five million on another guy
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  Speaker 1: and if you can get ten million in performance, there's
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  Speaker 1: your value. So you've got to be able to make
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  Speaker 1: sure that you're getting a return on investment or r
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  Speaker 1: o I. It's a term jp that you might understand.
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  Speaker 1: If you get r o I as a general manager,
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  Speaker 1: you're doing your job and you're doing it very well,
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  Speaker 1: and so you may not be spending the cap in
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  Speaker 1: year one, and essentially it may take a number of
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  Speaker 1: years for you to spend to the cap because you're
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  Speaker 1: rolling dollars over and you also have a young quarterback
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  Speaker 1: expected to be in so that obviously impacts the team.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, if you if you have the permission from
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  Speaker 1: ownership to spend the cap, I mean, you're talking about
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  Speaker 1: a franchise that can compete. You just need to make
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  Speaker 1: sure you find the guys that are valued at that
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  Speaker 1: dollar amount to make you compete. We have plenty ahead
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  Speaker 1: and it includes the offensive line. We'll get into the
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  Speaker 1: building an interest, and interest is by providing good product,
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: which is a good team on the field, and not
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: also great access in Irban Meyer having I'll spend some
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: time in the media business, is not shy about participating
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: with some of these things. And obviously he's not going
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: to be uh letting you look at their their draft
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: ranking board and saying, oh, yeah, they got Trevor Lawrence
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: right there at number one. Look at that. You know
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: you're not gonna see that, but look, uh, it's it's
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  Speaker 1: pretty cool stuff. And uh and uh, I really don't
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  Speaker 1: know if you're gonna be able to get that from
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  Speaker 1: any other team in the National Football League like this.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's pretty impressive. There are a few
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: doings similar, but this is, uh, this is next level
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: stuff and and it'll be every out And I will
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: say that, look at it takes a lot of trust
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: to to uh to do something like this and UH
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: and the Jaguars have uh not to give him a
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: big head or anything, but the Jaguars have some great
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  Speaker 1: people and some great people that can be trusted and
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: uh and given the access and be trusted with the
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: content and the information that's being put out and and
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: I think it's it's gonna be amazing for this organization
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: and for the fan base to be able to have
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: that kind of access. I think it's gonna be tremendous.
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: Let's get to the offensive line. I'm gonna watch it.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: It sounds like you are, and you know what, I
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: will too, and all of you should as well. It's
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: tonight at seven o'clock on the Jags YouTube channel. Offensive
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: line big part of the media conferences the other day,
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: Can Robinson this franchise tagged and after the salary cap
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: number was finalized, it's just under fourteen million dollars the
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: tag number. Let's hear from Urban Meyer and he likes
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: what Cam Robinson has to offer. He has a great future.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: His ceiling is very high. I've studied him very much.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: I spent some time with him. Uh. We feel that
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: the way this free agency, these free agency is moving
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: is that left tackle position as always, but even more
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: now this year from hearing from the guys have been
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: in an NFL, this is a tough year for that
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: left tackle position. And we feel just what's out there
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: and with coaching, culture and development. Cam Cam has a
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: lot of talent. So that's Herban Meyer on the Jags
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: left tackle. It is a lot of money, just under
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: fourteen million for a year, and it sounds like Urban
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: said otherwise in that press conference that they want him
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: around here for a while too, not just the one year. Well,
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: I think you also you you also can and for
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: some other things there and he says, look, you know
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: the way that the market is now, our way the
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: position is now because look, your decision making is always
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: based upon can you do better elsewhere? Right? Sure? Because
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: if you can do better elsewhere, and I don't care
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: if you're TB twelve, if you can do better than
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: Tom Brady, you're gonna go get better than Tom Brady.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: And I'm there's not much better than Tom Brady. I
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: know what you mean, but my point being is that
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: if you do better, you're gonna do better. And with
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: the market, when he said they look at it, you
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: know they evaluated it. And Trent Williams is probably gonna
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: get tagged in San Francisco. There's not a lot out there.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: The draft may not have a lot of the high
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: level left tackle prospects that that they think or that
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: they believe that they can get. And here's the other thing,
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: Cam Robinson. I love a lot of things about Cam Robinson. Tough,
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: he's physical, he finishes. He's got some things that he
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: needs to fix that have been well talked about, some
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: of the footwork issues. But but he's got the things
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: that are the most important, which is the commitment to
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: drive and the toughness to be able to continue to
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: get better. And those are the things that I think
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: that that coach probably likes about Cam Robinson, and obviously
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: George Warhop likes about Cam Robinson. So and here's the
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: other thing. The when you franchise tag him, it's not
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: like you're paying him twenty million dollars, is okay, We're
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: not paying JP twenty million dollars to replace Cam Robinson. Okay,
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: we're paying him what is it thirteen just under fourteen? Okay,
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: thirteen and change or blowing fourteen. And that's not a
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: lot of money for a left tackle. Because if you
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: had to go and pay in free agency for a guy,
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: you're gonna pay a lot more than that. And and
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: so it gives you the opportunity if you do not
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: extend him for the long term to at least to
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: see where he ends up after another year of developing
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: to then make a determination. And at that point, the
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: determination that you make at that point will be where
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: is he at? And then assess where is he at
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: compared to what's gonna be available in free agency and
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: what's gonna be available in the draft next year. And
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: it gives an opportunity for him to play in a
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: most likely new offense with a new quarterback and maybe
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: a new situation in games they're not trailing, maybe as much, hopefully,
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: and he's getting pass Russians all game long a lot
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: of times when you're behind the circumstance of the game
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: might help the tackle position too. Well, you hope, I mean,
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: you hope. I mean the reality is to so you
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: gotta You're gonna have a very different team this year
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: with the first year NFL coach, with a more than
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: likely rookie quarterback who hasn't played it down in the
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: National Football League. And that's a that's a lot to
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: sit there and to to expect them to all of
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: a sudden change the way that the games go. Let
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: me look at this past year was horrendous as far
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: as how the games went. You should be better, you
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: should be more competitive, And I think that's the point
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: you're talking about. You want them to be in a
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: better situation where the team is more competitive in every game,
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: which takes a little bit of that pressure off of
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: your tackles having a past protect because that's where they
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: did not perform very well, was in they were when
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: they were in obvious past protecting situations. That's where your
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: tackles did not perform where you needed them to perform.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: Urban also on Tuesday, said that he loves Andrew Norwell,
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: and if you ask a lot to the fan base,
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: they may not agree with that. But Norwell was at
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: Ohio State. Urban Meyer inherited him when he showed up
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: in Columbus and said that Norwell was the really a
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: big piece of turning that offensive line at Ohio State
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: into what was one of the worst in the Big
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: Ten to the best in the Big Ten in his
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: final few years in Columbus. He's gone on now we know. Uh.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: He said some of the reasons why he thought he
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: got that the big free agent contract here to come
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: from Carolina when he did, and uh, he wants him
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: a piece of the Jaguars organization. There was a report
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: earlier in the week that the Jaguars had asked him
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: to take a pay cut and then maybe they could
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: deal him. But here in Herbert Meyer talk about it logs,
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: it feels like much more Well is gonna be around here,
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: and especially the core of the interior, that offensive line,
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: the middle three guys that he was really speaking highly
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: of the interior guys that really formed the core. When
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: I saw the report that they were gonna maybe ask
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: him to take a pay cut or that he could
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: be released, I was going, wait a minute. He he is,
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: He's tough, he's physical, he's dependable. The majority of the
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: of the cap pit has passed in his contract. He's
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: not an expensive guy at this point. Uh, would you
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: like him to be able to take a pay You
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: liked everybody to take a pay cut to minimize their
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: their effect on the cap. But the reality is is
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: that Andrew Norwell's is a good football player, is a
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: really good football player. And he's much like Cam Robinson
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: and that he's been available, he's been tough, and Uh
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: in the last two years he played exceptionally well. Now,
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: a few years ago, in the first year of his
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: free agent contract. Did he perform at the level that
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: you expected him to perform at. No, he did not.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: But the last two years there's absolutely nothing to complain
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: about when it comes to the production or to use
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: Trent Ballky's termed the value of his play. So all
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: five could be back on the offensive line. I said
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: this before. I'm a big fan of not taking a
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: jar off the shelf until you find a jar that's better.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: So you bring all of the ones that you got
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: back and then you don't take them out of your
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: roster until you find somebody better. That's the only way
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: you get better. You don't get better by just cutting
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: a guy and saying, well we'll get somebody better, or
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: thinking you may get somebody better. It's always better to
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: have it proven that somebody's better, and then you make
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: the subtraction. And on Wednesday on the Huddle Up podcast,
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks joins us each week each week their logs,
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: and he made the point, you know, especially the interior
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: of the line at center, Lenda and those guys, especially
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: Lender with a rookie quarterback, let the line take care
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: of the calls and the checks. Let Linda do that
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: and let the quarterback just be the quarterback at least
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: early until he's more comfortable to do that. So having
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: the continuity up front in that checks that was that
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: was the point he was making, and he's right, and
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: he's right. But here's the other thing is you'd like
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: to have happen. It's for Lenda to stay healthy. Well,
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: that would be a positive for all the games as
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: your rookie quarterback play. It's been tough for him to
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: do that because it's, uh, it hasn't happened very often,
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: and so uh, you know, there's there's gonna be also
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: a very important decision for Lender's back, which you expect
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: Brandon Lendard to be back. In the last couple of years,
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: you've had a really really strong backup that you felt
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: really good about. And Tyler Shatley, who, by the way,
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: he's going to be a free agent. What do you
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: do at that position? Do you know can you can
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: can you bring him back to do you bring him back?
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: Do you look to the future, do you find somebody
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: in the draft? Do you continue to to work with
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: a j Can as a backup center and to continue
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: to develop his ability to move in and play center.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: So I mean there's a lot of things to think
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: about it. And look, you never like to make decisions
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: based on well, you know, we've got a guy and
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: we really like him, but you know he's got a
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: history of not being available, so we really got to
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: get a good backup. That's not where you want to be,
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: but I mean that's kind of the reality of where
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: you are with Lender and that you have to be
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: ready for his lack of availability when he's out there.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: Though he's he's a good, really good player, he's not.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: He hasn't. He's been a borderline Pro Bowl caliber caliber center, okay,
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: and uh to be though at that level, the consistency
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: has to be there. The availability has to be there,
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: and that's not what has been for for Brandon Linder.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: And love him though, I mean, when he's been playing,
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: he's been really good, but you've got to be out
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: there consistently. Let's come back in a moment. We'll hear
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: from the Jaguars head coach Irvian Meyer. He and a
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: lot of other people want pure blazing speed on offense.
• 30:04
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  Speaker 1: I think we have some really good receivers. We're not
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  Speaker 1: covered our teams over the years, I just the need
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  Speaker 1: for speed, the big play opportunity was not with the
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  Speaker 1: big play get at the receiver position. It's that coach
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  Speaker 1: Urban Meyer on Tuesday as media video conference and welcome back.
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  Speaker 1: It's Jaguar's happy hour. J P. Shadrick. Jeff Lockerman, Well,
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  Speaker 1: he was going through He was asked on Tuesday, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you've had time to evaluate the team. What do you have,
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  Speaker 1: what do you need? And he started with, of course
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  Speaker 1: you want to get the quarterback room, right, that's number one.
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  Speaker 1: Then it's defensive line. Start there on defense, then go
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  Speaker 1: to secondary. There's a lot of work to do. It
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  Speaker 1: sounds like in the secondary here at least from his perspective.
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  Speaker 1: And then playmakers at wide receivers, speed and a big
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  Speaker 1: playability down the field. That goes hand in hand though
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: the quarterback position to it all kind of works together.
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  Speaker 1: But those are at least the first four things. Let's
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  Speaker 1: start at quarterback and Obviously everybody's talking about the kid
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  Speaker 1: from Clemson, UM. But you know, the other question is
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  Speaker 1: what will that room look like. That's the thing he said,
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  Speaker 1: we want to get the quarterback room how we want it.
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  Speaker 1: Not just one guy, this is this is a multiple
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  Speaker 1: different players that will be in that room together. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be interesting to see, you know
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  Speaker 1: what that room does look like. You know, do you
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  Speaker 1: retain the guys that you currently have? Do you look
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: at bringing in a veteran who can quote unquote mentor
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  Speaker 1: a young Trevor Lawrence in that room. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what the answer is. If if you
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  Speaker 1: feel like that you have a great quarterback coach, which
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: you do, you've got somebody who's very well respected in
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: league circles, then you can get away with having that
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: that veteran presence in the room. But you know, I
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: will say this, sometimes it's even it's it's even better
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  Speaker 1: that even if you have a great coach, to add
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  Speaker 1: that veteran mentor, because sometimes it means more coming from
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: a teammate than it does from a coach. It's just
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: it's no different than growing up as a kid and
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  Speaker 1: your mom and ad used to tell you, don't touch that, son,
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  Speaker 1: don't tell just don't touch that, and you sit there
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  Speaker 1: and you go, yeah, mom and dad, you know, just
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  Speaker 1: don't touch that, you know, and you'd be like, he's
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  Speaker 1: probably right, what do you what were you trying to touch? Blogs?
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: Just okay, you don't if there's a lot of things
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: that right, okay, you don't touch you don't you don't
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: do that. What in the world we're talking about here, dude,
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: don't touch it though, whatever it is, your hands off,
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: don't go there please anyway, same idea, I know what
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: you're talking about. That makes sense. It makes a lot
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: of sense. You need to that's one idea, or you know,
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: the status quo, right, I mean, Luton was here, Gardner
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: was here. He has some starting time. Do they fit
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: into the mold of what they want? I think I
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: think it's I think it's gonna be wildly interesting to
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: see if they feel like Gardener Minio is a fit
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: for that room. And I mean, let's talk about the
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: elephant in the room. You know, he's a guy that
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: felt like he should have been the starter. Last year
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: made it known that that he was disappointed then when
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: he wasn't and uh uh at times last year didn't
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: want to throw the football in pregame warm ups if
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: he wasn't gonna be the guy. Uh for me. Uh,
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: that doesn't make for somebody that's gonna make a room
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: very strong for me. So so I don't know. I
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be interesting to see where that
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: ends up. But uh, because you want to mean not
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: just a quarterback room. You want to make every room
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: that you have as strong as possible because the stronger
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: the room is, the better the performance of the room is.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: And I don't care if there's only one guy playing
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: out of that room, like the quarterback position. If it's
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: a stronger room, you're gonna get a better performance out
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: of the individual that's playing if it's a strong room.
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: So I think it's gonna be interesting to see where
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: they end up with a lot of rooms. I mean,
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: the other one that that I look at JP is
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: running back room and and reading Trent Baalky's press conference
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: and and reading what he said, I think he's dead
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: on the money. Look, look he said, I we appreciate
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: what James Robinson did and he's a great workhorse back.
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: He was consistent. He was great, especially where he came
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: from being an undrafted guy. But then he added, we
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: need to add some explosiveness to that room. Damn race
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: you do, you know? And so when Urbans talking about
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: the need for speed, I don't think he's just talking
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: about just a wide receiver position. You know. Get What
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: you want is whoever touches the ball that you hold
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: your breath and that they could legitimately score any time
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: that they touched the ball. That's not just limited to
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: being somebody who wears an eighties number or a teen's number.
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: That person can wear a forties number. That person can
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: wear a twenties number, a thirties number. Could be a
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: running back, it could be a tight end. It could
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: be uh a hybrid type guy that plays special teams
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: defense and then every gay down again he plays on offense.
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: I mean, there's so many different ways that you can
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: be explosive or to gain that that quote need for speed.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: So I mean, you gotta you gotta get playmakers anywhere
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: you can get them. It's not just the wide receiver
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: position for the quarterback. It can be any position. You know,
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: just touching on the receiver position a little bit though,
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: a little bit deeper here. You know it's gonna be
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: chart right, he's going into a contract year, chant and
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: charts got to improve. We did not have a good
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: year last year. He was beat up. Um body language
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: wasn't great. The quarterback play wasn't great, and obviously that
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: impacted it a lot. And uh, you hope culture change
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: strong culture urban Meyer. Given the players the best of
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: the best, expecting the best of the best makes it
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: better for DJ because he needs a be better. And
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: then you got Colin Johnson, young guy was his rookie
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: year last season, and we'll see what he can do.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: Ways to go, but I mean JP looks did some
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: impressive things last year and he's got the range he's got.
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: I think he does a really good job of gaining
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: separation for a quarterback. I think, you know, he got
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: a big wide receiver can be of quarterback's best friend.
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: And with the amount of separation that Colin Johnson gets,
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: it's been impressive. So uh, I mean, so there there,
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: there's some guys that are gonna, i think, going to
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: get better and give a young quarterback some some opportunities.
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: The other guys that contributed a lot at wide receiver
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: last year. Keiling Cole and Chris Conley are both pending
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: free agents, and then he got well, they're pending free agents.
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: Keelan Cole, you'd like to be able to bring back,
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: and he's made it known that he would like to
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: be back. And then you have Laviska Chenault, who is
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: tough as nails, bit was beat up a little bit
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: last year, played through it. Give him credit for that,
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: but he's got to find a way to get healthy
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: because if he can get healthy, then he can get better.
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: If you if you can't get healthy, it's hard to
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: get better. I look, I've proven that when when you're
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: beat up, you're just trying. You're trying to tread water
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: to keep your head afloat. When you're beat up, you
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: don't get better when you're beat up, and when you're hurt.
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, just it's it's physically impossible. And so for
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: guys like Leavisca Chenal DJ Shark, they gotta get healthy
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: so that they can get better and so that they
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: can get better for this offense and for this football team.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: For a young quarterback curious to see what type of
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: additions they have at wide receiver, whether they go with
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: a veteran guy and free agency that will cost him
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: a little bit of money. Though a guy like Samuel,
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: who Urban knows well from the Ohio State days, he'll
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: be twenty five and the season starts, by the way,
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: coming out in free agency. I don't think Wattle will
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: be there in the draft at he'll go earlier than that.
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: Today's Tony has been mocked there a few different places.
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: So what type of guy do you want? What type
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: of receiver do you really want? Somebody that has that
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: ability to that would for me at least, you know,
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: go in motion, line up in the backfield, that type
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: of thing, dolls all that stuff. But the one thing
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: that Lavisca doesn't do is just flat out run by people. Right,
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: He runs over people. He runs over people. He ran
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: by on the one deep ball that he had to think.
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: It's something that he does. Consist he can open it
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: up straight line, I think, and and run. But but
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: it's not something that he does. Look, he's it doesn't
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: look like he's Jimmy Smith. Which when Jimmy Smith went
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: his in his heyday, and I think when Urban was
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: talking about the need for speed, he said, look, we're
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: not just looking for guys that are four three guys.
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: The first person that came to my mind was Jimmy Smith.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: I mean Jimmy Smith. When he was on the clock
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: stop Watch, Jimmy wasn't running a four three, But when
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: you turned on the film, Jimmy ran by all the
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: defensive backs. How does he do that? He just he
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: had this this extra gear that and I don't know
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: if it was just because he put on this football
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: gear all of a sudden it gave him the energy,
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: or it gave him the extra speed, or with the
• 43:15
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• 43:18
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• 43:21
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• 43:23
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• 43:26
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• 43:28
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• 43:31
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• 43:34
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• 43:36
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• 43:39
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• 43:41
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  Speaker 1: give a rating on there? I do? You do? I do?
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  Speaker 1: I even like? Uh? I even know how to give
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  Speaker 1: a comment one of the thumbs up things on Facebook? Now, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I like and then and then the heart on Instagram,
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: which you like? It is that a like doubles half
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  Speaker 1: the thing? Right? Yeah, way to go, man, learn and man,
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  Speaker 1: this is I haven't seen you in a while, so
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  Speaker 1: that you've really grown since. You know, when when you
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  Speaker 1: when you can't do anything else, you know, you start
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  Speaker 1: and uh and the ways of the twenty one century JP.
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  Speaker 1: Let's go around the National Football League. A lot going
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: on around the league, a lot going on in Kansas City.
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: On their offensive line. They've released their starting tackles Eric Fisher,
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: Mitchell Swarts, and their center Austin Writers. Gonna go to
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: free agency, so three fifths of the starting offensive line
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: for the Chiefs will be different next year. I think
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: they could bring back some of these guys that may
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: be a reduced amount of pay. I think that may
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: be part of it. Fisher, I thought, I thought Eric Fisher,
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: they gave him much, much, much, too big of a contract,
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: and I thought the value wasn't there for the contract
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: they gave him. Uh. Schwartz, the right tackle has been
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: her lot when he is healthy. Good football player, I
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: mean really good football player. So somebody if if he
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: gets back to being healthy, because that's a guy that
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: has played Nick before, and he's tough, and he had
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: a consecutive game streaks played that was a long amount
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: of time before he ended up getting hurt. This year,
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: he will provide great value for somebody at the right
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: tackle spot. The look changes, UH is always happening in
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: Ken said Chiefs. I'm sure we'll find some solutions to
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: some of their change. The Saints have plenty of change
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: as well. They were so far over the cap they're
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: having to clear out guys to make the cap numbers.
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: And ours Jenkins a cornerback at whack today, Kwan Alexander linebacker,
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: wide receiver Emmanuel Sanders a little bit of a little
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: bit ago a couple of days ago. Uh. And then
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: they've moved salary money into bonus money for a bunch
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: of different guys, and they're really kind of up against
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: it here. So there's some names coming out of New
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: Orleans that will be out and available in the market. Well,
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: they got a reboot, I mean that essentially they don't
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: have a choice with their salary cap situation. But you know,
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: the crazy thing is the question is still out there,
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: who's gonna play quarterbacks, and Breeze has not announced anything.
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: You know, there was a report that there was an
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: announcement pending, but that was a while ago. And hap
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: I just get the feeling that that Drew Brees is
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: not done. And I look, uh it sure looked like
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: he was done the way he walked off to the
• 52:23
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• 52:26
  Speaker 1: field and you and you lost, I mean when who
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: looks good with that? I mean he and he didn't
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: play particularly well down the stretch at times. But will
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  Speaker 1: it be then for for Drew Brees or does Drew
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: Bee Breeze watch what Tom Brady did and go, man,
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: I I can still do that. You know, I'm I'm
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: not as old as him. Why should I stop now? Right?
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: And and hopefully Drew Brees has saved his money, got
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  Speaker 1: some of that money back from all those diamonds that
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: he bought like four years ago. That was one of
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: the one of them most Czarre stories. Maybe aver that
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: a that an NFL quarterback is going to invest in
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: diamonds and trust somebody on their word, and yeah, I'm
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: gonna buy all these diamonds. I'm gonna make a lot
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: of money. And then you find out that the diamonds
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: that you paid for you were paying full freight. What
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: are you doing? I don't know. We've all made mistakes.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, Yeah, JP, but I mean that was Yeah,
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: it was a weird one. I'll say that. How many
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: millions of mistake was that? Anyway? So a strange thing.
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: But it'll be interesting to see what happens with Drew
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: Brees in New Orleans and and what happens with the
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: Saints if Drew Brees does not play. What are they
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: gonna do at quarterbacks? A great question? Um, let's go
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: speaking a quarterback. North Dakota State quarterback Trey Lance will
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: not run the forty get his pro daylogs. He said,
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: look at the GPS the National title game a couple
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: of years ago. He ran for a forty four yard
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: touchdown in that game and GPS that he had on
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: clocked him at twenty one and a half miles an hour.
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: That would have ranked twelve in the NFL last season
• 54:09
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• 54:14
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• 54:17
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• 54:20
  Speaker 1: think it's amazing I mean, you've got a quarterbacks you
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: can run twenty one miles an hour. I maybe that's
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: a that's insane. I would love to know what some
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: of the other quarterbacks in the National Football League, namely
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: the one in Baltimore, how fast he has run before
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: because he is electric right, according to this, it would
• 54:39
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• 54:41
  Speaker 1: this fast. But I still want a quarterback that can
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: throw the ball instead of run fast. Okay, okay, because
• 54:49
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• 54:51
  Speaker 1: ball into the hands of multiple guys that run fast,
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: and that those guys can also take the pain and
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  Speaker 1: an abuse a lot better than one person that plays quarterback.
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  Speaker 1: Speaking of that, guys who can get the ball in
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  Speaker 1: hands of other playmakers and guys that are making a
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  Speaker 1: lot of money doing that. Dak Prescott four years, hundred
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  Speaker 1: sixty million dollar deal Jerry Jones paid less for the
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  Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys franchise. In he paid a hundred and forty
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  Speaker 1: million dollars to buy the Cowboys, and the franchise is
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  Speaker 1: now worth five and a half billion with a B
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  Speaker 1: dollars by the way, and he said in the Prescott
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  Speaker 1: Fence Jerry Jones said, if anyone has ever taken advantage
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  Speaker 1: of me financially, I'm proud it's the one next to me.
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  Speaker 1: And he pointed to Prescott right there. He's gonna get
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  Speaker 1: seventy five million paid out in the first year. Literally,
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  Speaker 1: the contract dwarfs any other core any other contract in
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  Speaker 1: the history of the NFL. Patrick Mahomes is vastly underpaid.
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  Speaker 1: Tom Brady is grossly underpaid. Everybody else. Now when you
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  Speaker 1: look at the Dak Prescott contract is under paid or
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  Speaker 1: do you say that Dak Prescott is overpaid because Dak
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  Speaker 1: Prescott held all the cards in the negotiations with the
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  Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys, and the Dallas Cowboys have nobody to blame
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  Speaker 1: but themselves because they continued to use the franchise tag
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  Speaker 1: instead of striking the deal early on, which they could
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  Speaker 1: have done at a much cheaper rate. And so that's
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  Speaker 1: that's the part. You know that as a as a franchise,
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  Speaker 1: you you want players to prove their worth, but at
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  Speaker 1: the same token, you'd like to kind of be ahead
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  Speaker 1: of the game a little bit and pay them before
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  Speaker 1: they prove their worth, because then you get value when
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  Speaker 1: they prove their worth and you have to pay them
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  Speaker 1: and then multiple times franchise them. Guess what, the player
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  Speaker 1: is getting paid more than their value, as in the
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  Speaker 1: case with Dak Prescott. What is the way to live
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  Speaker 1: up to that contractper Bowls? Yeah, I mean for that
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  Speaker 1: kind of money, you've got to win super Bowls and
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  Speaker 1: if you don't win Super Bowls, he will be judged
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  Speaker 1: off of that. It's no different than when Andrew Norwell
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  Speaker 1: came in here and did not play well his first
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  Speaker 1: year monster contract, highest paid guard in the league, didn't
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  Speaker 1: play like the best guard in the league. Okay, then
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  Speaker 1: he got judged and many people viewed him as a disappointment.
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  Speaker 1: People still do. Some people still do because they never
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: got over that year. The reality is that he's played
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: to the level of the recent contract Dak Prescott. Though,
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: at that level you gotta win super Bowls and it's
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: been tough for the Cowboys to find the postseason and
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: much less win in the postseason. If you compare Dak
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: Prescott's contract in every way, shape or formed, from the
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: payout in the first year to the payout in the
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: first two years, the guaranteed money, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.
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  Speaker 1: It is by far the richest contract that there is
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  Speaker 1: in the National Football League. And you're talking about a
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  Speaker 1: quarterback who hasn't won a Super Bowl yet. Who oh,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, last year had a major injury, right right,
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  Speaker 1: So is that value? We'll find out. I guess what
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: that value is. And it's one of those things, what
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: what should you have done? Should you have just let
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: him walk? Well they didn't. They didn't. Did it? Now?
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: Now if he walks, now he's carrying a bag over
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: his shoulder, and he's got to have a will barrel
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: health and carry. There's a brinkstruck. Pull it up to
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: his house. A lot of money cornerback here. All right.
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: That's done it. For another program of Jaguar's Happy Hour,
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: check out tomorrow in the official podcast network, The Jags
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: Broadcast weekend review highlights from the shows and press conferences
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: all week long. That will be up in the early
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  Speaker 1: afternoon tomorrow. Logs, great to see you actually in person,
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  Speaker 1: first time. It along great, Yes it is, and we'll
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  Speaker 1: talk to you again soon next week Thursday to Happy Hour.
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  Speaker 1: That's Jeff Logerman. I'm JP Shadrick our thanks to Joe Fortunado,
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: Blake in the back room getting it done today on
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: the video side, and for our entire crew, I'm JP Shadrick.
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  Speaker 1: It's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network.